1
00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,640
Speaker 1: Happy New Year, everybody. My voice is kind of shot.

2
00:00:04,120 --> 00:00:07,240
Speaker 1: Thanks for rolling with that, and welcome to the first

3
00:00:07,680 --> 00:00:12,719
Speaker 1: twenty twenty five edition of The Bark Tank, presented by

4
00:00:12,760 --> 00:00:16,360
Speaker 1: Sugardale My Andrew Ciciliano. I am back in the home

5
00:00:16,400 --> 00:00:19,640
Speaker 1: office after the Browns wrapped up a three and fourteen season.

6
00:00:20,040 --> 00:00:24,599
Speaker 1: After the Browns lost on Saturday of Week eighteen in Baltimore,

7
00:00:25,360 --> 00:00:27,320
Speaker 1: I guess I could sit here and unpack that game.

8
00:00:28,480 --> 00:00:31,360
Speaker 1: I don't know what there really is two to unpack.

9
00:00:31,800 --> 00:00:33,839
Speaker 1: You probably saw some of it on Hard Knocks. I

10
00:00:33,840 --> 00:00:38,120
Speaker 1: know you sat through it watching and listening with friends

11
00:00:38,120 --> 00:00:40,919
Speaker 1: and family. Hopefully on Saturday, it's over. Browns with three

12
00:00:40,960 --> 00:00:44,120
Speaker 1: and fourteen. Miles Garrett made a great play first play

13
00:00:44,120 --> 00:00:46,840
Speaker 1: of the game, nailed Derek Henry in the backfield. Jerry

14
00:00:46,920 --> 00:00:51,680
Speaker 1: Judy said a new brown single season record with ninety receptions.

15
00:00:51,680 --> 00:00:54,880
Speaker 1: Good for Jerry. Good for Bailey Zachy to get back

16
00:00:54,880 --> 00:00:56,480
Speaker 1: out there. I know he'd like to pick six back,

17
00:00:56,520 --> 00:00:59,600
Speaker 1: but he made some throws. Jordan Akins got involved. I

18
00:00:59,720 --> 00:01:03,120
Speaker 1: hate see the Mi Hall injury, but he was playing great. Look,

19
00:01:03,160 --> 00:01:06,760
Speaker 1: there are plenty of positives to take from the entire season.

20
00:01:07,040 --> 00:01:09,880
Speaker 1: You now have to take those positives and build towards

21
00:01:10,000 --> 00:01:12,280
Speaker 1: next season. Happy to tell you that. Coming up in

22
00:01:12,319 --> 00:01:16,080
Speaker 1: a couple of minutes, Andrew Berry, the general manager of

23
00:01:16,120 --> 00:01:18,760
Speaker 1: the Cleveland Browns, is a first round pick for the

24
00:01:18,800 --> 00:01:21,920
Speaker 1: first time in a while. Is going to be here

25
00:01:22,440 --> 00:01:26,560
Speaker 1: in the bark tank. Get some stuff from him. Ab

26
00:01:27,160 --> 00:01:30,199
Speaker 1: coming up momentarily. The one thing I will say about

27
00:01:30,200 --> 00:01:33,399
Speaker 1: the game coldest. So I've been in a very long

28
00:01:33,480 --> 00:01:36,240
Speaker 1: time at a game and on the field. You might

29
00:01:36,280 --> 00:01:38,760
Speaker 1: have seen it on hard knocks, Miles say, hey, I

30
00:01:38,800 --> 00:01:41,759
Speaker 1: need to warm my feet up. It's that cold. It

31
00:01:41,840 --> 00:01:44,039
Speaker 1: was eleven degrees with a wind chill on the field.

32
00:01:44,240 --> 00:01:45,680
Speaker 1: I've been to a lot of cold games, a lot

33
00:01:45,680 --> 00:01:47,840
Speaker 1: of cold stadiums, stood on a lot of cold fields.

34
00:01:48,400 --> 00:01:51,880
Speaker 1: That was one of the top five I know. Eleven degrees. Oh oh,

35
00:01:51,920 --> 00:01:53,400
Speaker 1: there have been games that have been colder. The Saints

36
00:01:53,480 --> 00:01:55,080
Speaker 1: game in Cleveland a couple of years ago. Yeah, I

37
00:01:55,080 --> 00:01:59,080
Speaker 1: get it, but this one was bad. That win.

38
00:01:59,400 --> 00:02:00,360
Speaker 2: Just bid you.

39
00:02:00,400 --> 00:02:02,720
Speaker 1: It took my gloves off, Nathan and I down on

40
00:02:02,720 --> 00:02:04,400
Speaker 1: the field before the answer, my gloves off to take

41
00:02:04,400 --> 00:02:08,720
Speaker 1: a photo. Even thirty seconds you put your glove back

42
00:02:08,760 --> 00:02:10,440
Speaker 1: on your Your glove no longer.

43
00:02:10,160 --> 00:02:10,760
Speaker 2: Did its job.

44
00:02:10,840 --> 00:02:13,640
Speaker 1: Your hand was freezing under the gloves. So the players

45
00:02:13,680 --> 00:02:16,560
Speaker 1: that actually had to go through that. Tip of the

46
00:02:16,560 --> 00:02:19,960
Speaker 1: cap to you, players, coaches, everybody on the sideline. First

47
00:02:19,960 --> 00:02:22,560
Speaker 1: game I've seen, and we have the windows open in

48
00:02:22,600 --> 00:02:28,000
Speaker 1: the booth. Nathan had hand warmers, right, the handwarmers you know,

49
00:02:28,040 --> 00:02:30,440
Speaker 1: you shake and then you you make fists with. He

50
00:02:30,520 --> 00:02:36,760
Speaker 1: had those in his hands calling the game. So tip

51
00:02:36,760 --> 00:02:40,639
Speaker 1: of the cap to him anyway, just a quick thought

52
00:02:40,680 --> 00:02:44,800
Speaker 1: on the season. I've said this the last two games

53
00:02:45,520 --> 00:02:48,200
Speaker 1: Week seventeen and eighteen, the loss of the Dolphins and

54
00:02:48,240 --> 00:02:54,080
Speaker 1: then the loss to the Ravens, not only gratitude to

55
00:02:54,160 --> 00:02:58,720
Speaker 1: the organization, but most importantly gratitude to you the fan.

56
00:02:59,080 --> 00:03:01,640
Speaker 1: I kind of got shown hooked up saying goodbye at

57
00:03:01,680 --> 00:03:05,720
Speaker 1: the end of the game in Baltimore, just because the

58
00:03:05,880 --> 00:03:08,600
Speaker 1: entirety of the season kind of came crashing down, the

59
00:03:08,760 --> 00:03:11,320
Speaker 1: entirety of this ride that I've been on, the entirety

60
00:03:11,080 --> 00:03:14,440
Speaker 1: of stepping into a job under horrible and unfortunate and

61
00:03:14,560 --> 00:03:19,440
Speaker 1: just just I mean circumstances I sell have a hard

62
00:03:19,480 --> 00:03:24,560
Speaker 1: time talking about. With Jim retiring and then obviously Jim's passing,

63
00:03:25,600 --> 00:03:30,600
Speaker 1: it all kind of of hit me after that game

64
00:03:30,680 --> 00:03:35,280
Speaker 1: on Sunday as we were signing off, I'm going to

65
00:03:35,360 --> 00:03:37,560
Speaker 1: look at the camera when I say this. I often

66
00:03:38,240 --> 00:03:40,320
Speaker 1: just full disclosure here. When I'm trying to find words,

67
00:03:40,360 --> 00:03:42,680
Speaker 1: I kind of look up into the corner and that

68
00:03:42,720 --> 00:03:46,120
Speaker 1: goes for personal conversations as well, but this needs eye

69
00:03:46,160 --> 00:03:51,680
Speaker 1: contact here. Thank you, everybody, like fans, thank you for

70
00:03:52,040 --> 00:03:54,200
Speaker 1: not only sticking with the team, but on a personal level,

71
00:03:54,600 --> 00:03:57,680
Speaker 1: sticking with me and with Nathan and with us and

72
00:03:57,760 --> 00:04:04,680
Speaker 1: with the entire Bronze Content team. It sucks for us too.

73
00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:06,800
Speaker 1: What I mean that meaning we're all in this together,

74
00:04:06,920 --> 00:04:09,800
Speaker 1: rooting like we live the emotional rollercoaster.

75
00:04:09,320 --> 00:04:10,720
Speaker 2: That you do. It's not just a job.

76
00:04:12,440 --> 00:04:16,800
Speaker 1: So many of the people in the building born and

77
00:04:16,880 --> 00:04:22,080
Speaker 1: raised Brons fans, and we feel it like you feel it.

78
00:04:23,279 --> 00:04:26,040
Speaker 1: Thank you for sticking with us, and on a personal level,

79
00:04:26,040 --> 00:04:28,320
Speaker 1: I said it before, I'll say it again a lot.

80
00:04:28,760 --> 00:04:33,320
Speaker 1: Thank you for sticking with me. I've had good games,

81
00:04:33,360 --> 00:04:42,040
Speaker 1: bad games, good calls, bad calls. Thank you because it

82
00:04:42,080 --> 00:04:45,599
Speaker 1: means a lot. I can't really put it into words

83
00:04:46,400 --> 00:04:51,159
Speaker 1: what it means. We've had amazing moments like I'll never

84
00:04:51,240 --> 00:04:55,279
Speaker 1: forget that, hey, well the first game, sure, I was

85
00:04:55,320 --> 00:04:58,719
Speaker 1: able to do the three games last year, won all three,

86
00:04:59,720 --> 00:05:04,560
Speaker 1: got lucky. I'll never forget. Obviously, Jake Moody missed the

87
00:05:04,640 --> 00:05:09,240
Speaker 1: kick last year. That emotion, like that plane ride. I

88
00:05:09,240 --> 00:05:10,560
Speaker 1: don't know that I've ever told this story. I got

89
00:05:10,600 --> 00:05:16,760
Speaker 1: emotional flying home, flying after that game, Browns won, huge win.

90
00:05:16,960 --> 00:05:19,440
Speaker 1: You guys remember where you were obviously for that game,

91
00:05:19,880 --> 00:05:25,479
Speaker 1: huge win. I got emotional like wow, like I did

92
00:05:25,480 --> 00:05:31,479
Speaker 1: this and they won like awesome Week one. Same thing

93
00:05:31,520 --> 00:05:35,159
Speaker 1: this year, that win in Jacksonville Week two, You're like,

94
00:05:35,160 --> 00:05:39,839
Speaker 1: all right, like we got something like Because I'm always

95
00:05:39,880 --> 00:05:41,719
Speaker 1: the game day optimist, I've told you that.

96
00:05:42,120 --> 00:05:46,320
Speaker 2: Obviously, three and fourteen not what anyone expected.

97
00:05:47,200 --> 00:05:51,159
Speaker 1: But we will always have Jamis and Cedric Tillman against

98
00:05:51,160 --> 00:05:55,400
Speaker 1: the Ravens. We will always have the snow Globe. And

99
00:05:55,440 --> 00:05:59,440
Speaker 1: if there's any positive from this year, you have those

100
00:05:59,560 --> 00:06:03,679
Speaker 1: NFL almost moments, and you have those moments where look,

101
00:06:03,880 --> 00:06:08,599
Speaker 1: you're gonna remember where you were form and I know

102
00:06:08,680 --> 00:06:15,039
Speaker 1: I will, and I am honored to be part of

103
00:06:15,040 --> 00:06:20,520
Speaker 1: those moments. And I am beyond grateful to you the

104
00:06:20,560 --> 00:06:26,640
Speaker 1: fan for including me in those moments and embracing me

105
00:06:26,800 --> 00:06:34,360
Speaker 1: the way you guys all have this year Anyway, now

106
00:06:34,400 --> 00:06:37,160
Speaker 1: that I got down off my chest, time to look

107
00:06:37,200 --> 00:06:38,120
Speaker 1: ahead of the off season.

108
00:06:38,640 --> 00:06:40,560
Speaker 2: This is kind of cool. We have two Andrews here.

109
00:06:40,600 --> 00:06:45,320
Speaker 1: His very first appearance in the Bark Tank, general manager

110
00:06:45,320 --> 00:06:50,719
Speaker 1: of the Cleveland Browns, Andrew Berry. Thanks, Jamis barked when

111
00:06:50,720 --> 00:06:54,040
Speaker 1: he joined the Bark Tank. You're not gonna bark, you.

112
00:06:54,000 --> 00:06:58,719
Speaker 3: Know what that's you know, Jamis is a very unique personality.

113
00:06:59,600 --> 00:07:01,200
Speaker 3: You know, I'm gonna I'm gonna leave all the barking

114
00:07:01,240 --> 00:07:03,280
Speaker 3: to him and our dog pound faithful.

115
00:07:03,120 --> 00:07:04,840
Speaker 2: Uh fair. He was great.

116
00:07:04,880 --> 00:07:06,680
Speaker 1: By the way with the bark kind of caught me

117
00:07:06,720 --> 00:07:07,200
Speaker 1: off guard.

118
00:07:07,080 --> 00:07:08,400
Speaker 2: And I didn't know where to go from there.

119
00:07:09,320 --> 00:07:12,720
Speaker 1: But let let's start with you, if we could. With

120
00:07:12,920 --> 00:07:16,840
Speaker 1: your end of season presser on Monday, Kevin, when Sunday

121
00:07:16,880 --> 00:07:18,760
Speaker 1: and then you went on Monday. I thought it was

122
00:07:18,800 --> 00:07:22,640
Speaker 1: interesting that you you opened kind of almost by bearing

123
00:07:22,680 --> 00:07:25,840
Speaker 1: your soul if you will a little bit, and you

124
00:07:25,960 --> 00:07:29,000
Speaker 1: use the word Andrew right out of the gate. Embarrassed.

125
00:07:29,800 --> 00:07:33,840
Speaker 3: Why, Yeah, I think it's it's the reality of you know,

126
00:07:33,920 --> 00:07:37,440
Speaker 3: coming into a season where we felt like we had

127
00:07:37,440 --> 00:07:39,680
Speaker 3: a good team. You know, we felt like we could

128
00:07:40,760 --> 00:07:42,560
Speaker 3: build off of some of the success that we had

129
00:07:42,600 --> 00:07:46,200
Speaker 3: in twenty twenty three and for us to completely just

130
00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:50,720
Speaker 3: being candid, fall flat on our face. You know, it's

131
00:07:50,760 --> 00:07:53,920
Speaker 3: just something that that that you know, when you fail

132
00:07:54,000 --> 00:07:58,680
Speaker 3: that spectacularly in a very public arena, it's just something

133
00:07:58,720 --> 00:08:01,000
Speaker 3: that it's it's hard to reckon and it's hard to

134
00:08:01,200 --> 00:08:05,040
Speaker 3: live with week to week, especially in a situation where

135
00:08:06,080 --> 00:08:08,480
Speaker 3: you know, we are really we're really stewards of a

136
00:08:08,480 --> 00:08:11,200
Speaker 3: public asset. Right There are so many people in Northeast

137
00:08:11,200 --> 00:08:15,360
Speaker 3: Ohio who you know, bleed brown and orange. The Cleveland

138
00:08:15,360 --> 00:08:18,520
Speaker 3: Browns are about how they grow up, how they you know,

139
00:08:18,640 --> 00:08:22,760
Speaker 3: how intricate role in their daily lives. And I think

140
00:08:22,760 --> 00:08:25,080
Speaker 3: there's just a sense of like, you know, disappointment and

141
00:08:25,120 --> 00:08:28,760
Speaker 3: embarrassment that we let those people down this year, and

142
00:08:28,800 --> 00:08:30,800
Speaker 3: we're resigned to correcting that as we move forward.

143
00:08:31,120 --> 00:08:34,839
Speaker 1: How do you and I know the off season is

144
00:08:35,160 --> 00:08:37,800
Speaker 1: as we sit here taping this five days old, you

145
00:08:37,920 --> 00:08:40,520
Speaker 1: use the word reconcile just now, How do you reconcile?

146
00:08:41,760 --> 00:08:44,880
Speaker 3: Like I think the reality of it is. Unfortunately, in

147
00:08:44,920 --> 00:08:49,320
Speaker 3: professional sports, you know, sometimes these years do happen. You'd

148
00:08:49,360 --> 00:08:54,200
Speaker 3: like to think that your team will perform up to expectations,

149
00:08:54,240 --> 00:08:57,360
Speaker 3: be young and in its prime, in you know, in perpetuity,

150
00:08:57,400 --> 00:09:00,640
Speaker 3: and you know that's not the reality of professional sports.

151
00:09:01,360 --> 00:09:03,640
Speaker 3: But for us not to be able to like stop

152
00:09:03,679 --> 00:09:05,920
Speaker 3: the fall or stop the bleeding so this so to speak,

153
00:09:05,960 --> 00:09:08,559
Speaker 3: over the course of the year, you know, that's a

154
00:09:08,600 --> 00:09:11,160
Speaker 3: major problem. And it and it starts by you know

155
00:09:11,320 --> 00:09:14,679
Speaker 3: hard you know self analysis with you know, the roster

156
00:09:14,760 --> 00:09:18,280
Speaker 3: and really everything that we did to prepare the team

157
00:09:18,640 --> 00:09:22,160
Speaker 3: and then ultimately make the necessary adjustments. Which it's not

158
00:09:22,280 --> 00:09:25,000
Speaker 3: just players, it's not just coaches, not just support staff.

159
00:09:25,000 --> 00:09:28,600
Speaker 3: It's you know, auditing everything we do from a process

160
00:09:28,600 --> 00:09:33,760
Speaker 3: standpoint and adjust those when you know, adjust those when

161
00:09:33,800 --> 00:09:36,679
Speaker 3: when when the results haven't been satisfactory. And that doesn't

162
00:09:36,679 --> 00:09:38,720
Speaker 3: mean that we don't have a number of good things

163
00:09:38,720 --> 00:09:42,040
Speaker 3: in place in those areas. And also, you know, make

164
00:09:42,080 --> 00:09:44,000
Speaker 3: sure that we're not letting the emotion of the season,

165
00:09:44,160 --> 00:09:46,119
Speaker 3: you know, kind of throw out the baby with the bathwater.

166
00:09:47,360 --> 00:09:49,120
Speaker 3: But you know, it would be niv for us not

167
00:09:49,200 --> 00:09:50,880
Speaker 3: to look at this year and say, hey, you know

168
00:09:50,960 --> 00:09:54,880
Speaker 3: this went you know, really really wrong, and you know

169
00:09:54,920 --> 00:09:57,040
Speaker 3: we need to we need to, uh, you know, change

170
00:09:57,080 --> 00:09:58,679
Speaker 3: our approach in some areas to correct it.

171
00:09:59,200 --> 00:10:02,240
Speaker 1: Andrew all time stamp this We're we're doing this Thursday afternoon.

172
00:10:02,240 --> 00:10:04,280
Speaker 1: Your presser was Monday. As we sit here right now,

173
00:10:04,320 --> 00:10:07,120
Speaker 1: do you do you have any other update on Deshaun

174
00:10:07,160 --> 00:10:09,080
Speaker 1: Watson and his setback as.

175
00:10:09,000 --> 00:10:10,760
Speaker 2: You put in, uh, do not.

176
00:10:11,520 --> 00:10:14,440
Speaker 3: We will, you know, we will certainly communicate with you know,

177
00:10:14,480 --> 00:10:19,560
Speaker 3: with our fans and organizational stakeholders when we do. We're

178
00:10:19,559 --> 00:10:22,120
Speaker 3: still working through that, but when we do, we will

179
00:10:22,160 --> 00:10:22,960
Speaker 3: have something to say.

180
00:10:23,200 --> 00:10:28,559
Speaker 1: All right, is is there any hope thought, possibility that

181
00:10:28,640 --> 00:10:30,280
Speaker 1: he could play in twenty twenty five.

182
00:10:30,920 --> 00:10:35,280
Speaker 3: It's really too early to say, Andrew. You know, one

183
00:10:35,280 --> 00:10:37,880
Speaker 3: thing that I have learned with these long term injuries

184
00:10:37,960 --> 00:10:41,360
Speaker 3: is even when you expect players to progress with an

185
00:10:41,400 --> 00:10:46,240
Speaker 3: appropriate timeline, you know that recovery can be highly variable.

186
00:10:47,080 --> 00:10:48,800
Speaker 3: So it would even really be too early to predict

187
00:10:48,840 --> 00:10:50,839
Speaker 3: at this point, even if we did have the full

188
00:10:51,240 --> 00:10:55,920
Speaker 3: uh the full evaluation. But you know, obviously our concern

189
00:10:56,040 --> 00:10:58,760
Speaker 3: is with a more extended recovery than than we thought

190
00:10:58,800 --> 00:10:59,640
Speaker 3: a couple months ago.

191
00:10:59,800 --> 00:11:02,360
Speaker 2: And there was this was kind of this came out

192
00:11:02,360 --> 00:11:03,199
Speaker 2: of the blue Sunday.

193
00:11:03,960 --> 00:11:06,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, this is something that we just learned about on Sunday.

194
00:11:06,280 --> 00:11:08,440
Speaker 3: It's not something it's something that we picked up on

195
00:11:08,480 --> 00:11:11,600
Speaker 3: the exit. You know the exit physical. So we're still

196
00:11:11,600 --> 00:11:12,280
Speaker 3: working through.

197
00:11:12,080 --> 00:11:15,640
Speaker 1: It, all right, you said, and obviously I think everyone

198
00:11:15,640 --> 00:11:18,199
Speaker 1: knows now considering what we just discussed here, you're gonna have.

199
00:11:18,160 --> 00:11:21,160
Speaker 2: To remake the quarterback room.

200
00:11:21,200 --> 00:11:26,400
Speaker 1: The general consensus is veteran who could potentially start if needed,

201
00:11:26,960 --> 00:11:32,480
Speaker 1: and draft one as well. Is is that a fair

202
00:11:32,920 --> 00:11:36,480
Speaker 1: working plan a thesis as we sit here three months out?

203
00:11:36,800 --> 00:11:38,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, Andrew, I think it's. I think it's too early

204
00:11:38,880 --> 00:11:44,160
Speaker 3: to say. We won't restrict ourselves in terms of, you know,

205
00:11:44,200 --> 00:11:47,000
Speaker 3: the avenues that we would explore, you know, at the position,

206
00:11:48,080 --> 00:11:51,080
Speaker 3: but we also want to make sure that that you know,

207
00:11:51,160 --> 00:11:54,200
Speaker 3: we're convicted on you know, whatever players that we bring

208
00:11:54,280 --> 00:11:57,959
Speaker 3: into that room. You know, we won't force anything in

209
00:11:58,000 --> 00:12:00,480
Speaker 3: any arena, but we'll be brought in terms of how

210
00:12:00,480 --> 00:12:01,840
Speaker 3: we think about the position.

211
00:12:02,120 --> 00:12:03,760
Speaker 2: Philosophically, Andrew.

212
00:12:03,800 --> 00:12:07,000
Speaker 1: When it comes to the draft, there are some There

213
00:12:07,000 --> 00:12:09,560
Speaker 1: are some that just say with a quarterback, for example, hey,

214
00:12:09,640 --> 00:12:13,560
Speaker 1: I don't care where we're picking, whomever we is, whatever

215
00:12:13,679 --> 00:12:16,960
Speaker 1: organization this is if I believe in the guy hand

216
00:12:17,000 --> 00:12:19,440
Speaker 1: in the card, Like I remember the Daniel Jones conversation

217
00:12:19,520 --> 00:12:22,160
Speaker 1: years ago, Daniel Jones extra Lawrence, Ah, you took the

218
00:12:22,240 --> 00:12:25,000
Speaker 1: quarterback to I who cares if you think he's the

219
00:12:25,080 --> 00:12:27,360
Speaker 1: guy hand in the card?

220
00:12:28,480 --> 00:12:29,520
Speaker 2: Are you one of those guys?

221
00:12:30,600 --> 00:12:33,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know that it's either or Andrew. You know,

222
00:12:33,160 --> 00:12:36,840
Speaker 3: I think they're like, generally speaking, if you think you

223
00:12:36,920 --> 00:12:39,360
Speaker 3: have a you know, you have a player where.

224
00:12:41,440 --> 00:12:42,120
Speaker 2: You can.

225
00:12:43,679 --> 00:12:48,000
Speaker 3: Consistently develop you know, above average offense around that individual's

226
00:12:48,040 --> 00:12:51,720
Speaker 3: skill sets, you know, regardless of you know, whether they're

227
00:12:52,640 --> 00:12:56,840
Speaker 3: you know, a pocket passer, an out of structure playmaker,

228
00:12:57,280 --> 00:12:59,520
Speaker 3: a runner or whatever, you know, whatever that ends up being.

229
00:12:59,520 --> 00:13:02,480
Speaker 3: If you feel like you can you know, build a

230
00:13:02,520 --> 00:13:06,719
Speaker 3: build an offense and put together a scheme that maximizes

231
00:13:06,760 --> 00:13:09,079
Speaker 3: that player's ability which will allow you to have above

232
00:13:09,080 --> 00:13:12,480
Speaker 3: average offense. You know, I think it makes sense to

233
00:13:12,920 --> 00:13:15,840
Speaker 3: you know, to take the player. Now there are there

234
00:13:15,920 --> 00:13:21,280
Speaker 3: are you know, value considerations that come into it. You know,

235
00:13:21,480 --> 00:13:24,800
Speaker 3: for me, whether it's you know, a couple spots versus

236
00:13:25,679 --> 00:13:28,880
Speaker 3: you know, what's, say, several rounds, you know, that's a

237
00:13:28,920 --> 00:13:32,240
Speaker 3: big difference. But you know what, I personally get caught

238
00:13:32,320 --> 00:13:35,200
Speaker 3: up on a player if it's like, okay, hey, you

239
00:13:35,240 --> 00:13:38,320
Speaker 3: know he may be the I don't know, tenth best

240
00:13:38,320 --> 00:13:40,200
Speaker 3: player in the draft, and it's like Okay, does that

241
00:13:40,240 --> 00:13:41,600
Speaker 3: mean you have to take him at ten. No, I

242
00:13:41,600 --> 00:13:44,840
Speaker 3: don't think. I don't believe that's the case, just because

243
00:13:44,840 --> 00:13:46,800
Speaker 3: the impact of the position is so great.

244
00:13:47,080 --> 00:13:48,480
Speaker 2: The first round is so interesting.

245
00:13:48,760 --> 00:13:51,240
Speaker 1: It's I mean, the Thursday night of the first round

246
00:13:51,240 --> 00:13:55,120
Speaker 1: for those of us sitting on the couch watching, it's

247
00:13:55,200 --> 00:13:57,800
Speaker 1: it's it's hard to describe what's that like as a

248
00:13:57,840 --> 00:14:00,880
Speaker 1: fan because we all think, or those in the media,

249
00:14:00,960 --> 00:14:03,280
Speaker 1: we all think that we know how the board should fall.

250
00:14:04,240 --> 00:14:05,880
Speaker 2: The last three years.

251
00:14:06,280 --> 00:14:08,960
Speaker 1: Obviously you're in the draft room, you're you're on the phone,

252
00:14:09,520 --> 00:14:11,880
Speaker 1: You're you're thinking, maybe can we get up potentially, maybe

253
00:14:11,920 --> 00:14:16,040
Speaker 1: someone's gonna call us whatever. But have you, this might

254
00:14:16,040 --> 00:14:20,160
Speaker 1: sound on, learned anything about the first round, Like, are

255
00:14:20,200 --> 00:14:25,680
Speaker 1: there are lessons that maybe you've taken by watching the

256
00:14:25,760 --> 00:14:27,520
Speaker 1: last three years without a pick.

257
00:14:28,960 --> 00:14:31,440
Speaker 3: I wouldn't say so, Andrew, that there's anything that we've

258
00:14:31,520 --> 00:14:34,400
Speaker 3: learned because we haven't had a pick, because you know,

259
00:14:34,520 --> 00:14:38,760
Speaker 3: part of it is like part of it is like

260
00:14:39,320 --> 00:14:42,160
Speaker 3: for every team that's on the clock in the first round,

261
00:14:42,640 --> 00:14:44,720
Speaker 3: there's a lot of action that doesn't actually hit the

262
00:14:44,760 --> 00:14:48,400
Speaker 3: surface because there are a number of calls or discussions

263
00:14:48,400 --> 00:14:51,480
Speaker 3: that happened when you're within a couple you know, picks

264
00:14:51,480 --> 00:14:55,640
Speaker 3: of your slot that you you know, you you may

265
00:14:55,680 --> 00:14:58,000
Speaker 3: not you may not take, you may not act on something,

266
00:14:58,160 --> 00:15:01,920
Speaker 3: and that never neces necessarily hit. It's like the public arena.

267
00:15:03,080 --> 00:15:07,160
Speaker 3: So there are all those experiences that happen when you

268
00:15:07,200 --> 00:15:10,280
Speaker 3: have a pick in the first round that you can

269
00:15:10,360 --> 00:15:13,760
Speaker 3: learn from, that you can you can take from, you know,

270
00:15:13,800 --> 00:15:16,200
Speaker 3: regardless of if you ended up trading up, trading down,

271
00:15:16,280 --> 00:15:20,160
Speaker 3: or sitting and picking. You know, I think that you

272
00:15:20,280 --> 00:15:22,840
Speaker 3: have seen a bit of a shift in terms of

273
00:15:23,000 --> 00:15:28,160
Speaker 3: some of the positional value across the league, you know,

274
00:15:28,160 --> 00:15:31,160
Speaker 3: particularly like at the receiver position. You know, there was

275
00:15:31,200 --> 00:15:33,760
Speaker 3: a year, you know, probably in twenty nineteen and twenty

276
00:15:33,760 --> 00:15:36,080
Speaker 3: twenty where you know, you had a number of guys

277
00:15:36,080 --> 00:15:38,600
Speaker 3: that could be you'd have access to in late one

278
00:15:38,720 --> 00:15:41,720
Speaker 3: or even late you know, even late two, that were

279
00:15:41,760 --> 00:15:44,400
Speaker 3: excellent players, like I think about you know, in twenty nineteen,

280
00:15:46,000 --> 00:15:49,560
Speaker 3: you know, you had guys like DK Metcalf, Terry I think,

281
00:15:49,680 --> 00:15:55,200
Speaker 3: Terry McLaurin that year, AJ Brown, who you know went

282
00:15:55,240 --> 00:15:57,680
Speaker 3: in the middle of the second round or later. And

283
00:15:57,800 --> 00:16:00,840
Speaker 3: now like with the impact that that position has had

284
00:16:00,880 --> 00:16:04,920
Speaker 3: in our game, you've seen it despite the demand of

285
00:16:04,960 --> 00:16:07,360
Speaker 3: the receiver position. You see those guys go a lot,

286
00:16:07,480 --> 00:16:09,640
Speaker 3: you know, a guy a lot earlier now, So you

287
00:16:09,680 --> 00:16:11,680
Speaker 3: do see trends like that, you know, as you as

288
00:16:11,680 --> 00:16:13,640
Speaker 3: you sit back and observe. But I would say it's

289
00:16:13,720 --> 00:16:17,320
Speaker 3: less about not being in the action and probably just

290
00:16:17,360 --> 00:16:20,480
Speaker 3: more about you know, seeing how the league shifts and evolves,

291
00:16:20,600 --> 00:16:21,520
Speaker 3: you know, over the last three.

292
00:16:21,360 --> 00:16:23,800
Speaker 1: To five Not to get too far down this rabbit earlier,

293
00:16:23,800 --> 00:16:26,880
Speaker 1: but isn't some of that with the wide receiver contract

294
00:16:26,880 --> 00:16:28,720
Speaker 1: based Really the top of the market now is thirty

295
00:16:28,760 --> 00:16:31,680
Speaker 1: five and likely above whomever hits the jackpot on the

296
00:16:31,720 --> 00:16:35,280
Speaker 1: next one. And if you can lock in five years

297
00:16:36,320 --> 00:16:39,680
Speaker 1: in the first round or four in the second, and

298
00:16:39,880 --> 00:16:44,240
Speaker 1: that market is exploding on second contracts, why not lock

299
00:16:44,320 --> 00:16:45,440
Speaker 1: in that contract?

300
00:16:45,520 --> 00:16:47,640
Speaker 3: No, that's absolutely right. I mean, if you think about it,

301
00:16:49,040 --> 00:16:52,760
Speaker 3: you know, even when we traded for you know, a

302
00:16:52,840 --> 00:16:56,120
Speaker 3: mari uh. You know in twenty twenty two, the top

303
00:16:56,160 --> 00:16:58,440
Speaker 3: of the market was barely above you know, was barely

304
00:16:58,480 --> 00:17:01,760
Speaker 3: above twenty. Now that's a thirty five million dollar position

305
00:17:01,880 --> 00:17:05,800
Speaker 3: and climbing. You know, we'll we'll see that when whenever

306
00:17:05,880 --> 00:17:08,240
Speaker 3: Jamar Chase gets his extension done in the next in

307
00:17:08,240 --> 00:17:11,399
Speaker 3: the next year, and you know, those economic realities have

308
00:17:11,440 --> 00:17:14,920
Speaker 3: certainly influenced the trends that you see in the draft.

309
00:17:15,080 --> 00:17:21,080
Speaker 1: All right, offensive realities here. Mike Bloomgren, new offensive line coach,

310
00:17:21,119 --> 00:17:24,600
Speaker 1: former head coach at Rice. But if you go back

311
00:17:24,640 --> 00:17:28,399
Speaker 1: to his days in Palo Alto, they they ran the

312
00:17:28,400 --> 00:17:30,520
Speaker 1: football a lot. I mean, we're going to see power

313
00:17:30,600 --> 00:17:33,399
Speaker 1: fifteen eighteen times in a row. And if so, is

314
00:17:33,440 --> 00:17:38,000
Speaker 1: that maybe a hint as to where Kevin's O C

315
00:17:38,440 --> 00:17:40,440
Speaker 1: higher might land.

316
00:17:40,680 --> 00:17:43,680
Speaker 3: It's a great question, Andrew. I don't think you'll see

317
00:17:43,680 --> 00:17:46,320
Speaker 3: the days where we're running power fifteen eighteen times in

318
00:17:46,359 --> 00:17:49,760
Speaker 3: a row. But we think Mike is a fantastic O

319
00:17:49,920 --> 00:17:53,080
Speaker 3: line coach. You know, run game, in pass game, you know,

320
00:17:53,200 --> 00:17:56,440
Speaker 3: Mike Uh, he actually started his career under Bill Callahan

321
00:17:56,560 --> 00:17:59,680
Speaker 3: with the with the Jets as a QC went to

322
00:17:59,760 --> 00:18:02,760
Speaker 3: stand for was David shaw Is one of his very

323
00:18:02,760 --> 00:18:06,040
Speaker 3: first hires. Implemented a lot of new things both from

324
00:18:06,040 --> 00:18:08,920
Speaker 3: a protection standpoint and a run game standpoint in Palo

325
00:18:09,000 --> 00:18:12,600
Speaker 3: Alto with with those great teams. One of the few

326
00:18:12,720 --> 00:18:14,960
Speaker 3: like O line coaches who's like parlayed that into a

327
00:18:14,960 --> 00:18:17,280
Speaker 3: head coaching position, which he did at Rice. You know,

328
00:18:17,359 --> 00:18:20,040
Speaker 3: made them Bowl, you know, made them eligible for like

329
00:18:20,080 --> 00:18:22,880
Speaker 3: the first time in forever. He's a really smart, great

330
00:18:22,920 --> 00:18:27,480
Speaker 3: relationship builder, high IQ in terms of technique and fundamentals,

331
00:18:27,520 --> 00:18:29,400
Speaker 3: and we think he'll be able to make a huge

332
00:18:29,440 --> 00:18:31,240
Speaker 3: impact both run and pass game.

333
00:18:31,720 --> 00:18:34,760
Speaker 1: And uh that that that came pretty quickly. I think

334
00:18:34,800 --> 00:18:37,600
Speaker 1: it surprised a lot of people how quickly, you know,

335
00:18:37,720 --> 00:18:39,919
Speaker 1: Kevin made that higher. Can can we expect an O

336
00:18:40,080 --> 00:18:42,760
Speaker 1: C higher in anytime soon?

337
00:18:43,680 --> 00:18:46,720
Speaker 3: You know for hopefully, you know, but you know, we'll

338
00:18:46,760 --> 00:18:48,800
Speaker 3: we'll work through the you know, we'll work through the

339
00:18:49,119 --> 00:18:51,280
Speaker 3: process that we have in the processes that we have

340
00:18:51,359 --> 00:18:55,199
Speaker 3: in place. You know, once we feel good about a

341
00:18:55,240 --> 00:18:58,760
Speaker 3: candidate and feel good about a direction, you know, we'll

342
00:18:58,760 --> 00:19:01,679
Speaker 3: make that decision as quick as possible. But if it

343
00:19:01,720 --> 00:19:05,760
Speaker 3: does have to take time, you know, that's okay because

344
00:19:05,760 --> 00:19:07,359
Speaker 3: we want to make sure that we get you know,

345
00:19:07,400 --> 00:19:10,760
Speaker 3: the higher right first and foremost. And with all these

346
00:19:10,800 --> 00:19:16,520
Speaker 3: different positions, uh, sometimes they happen at different during different timeframes.

347
00:19:16,800 --> 00:19:21,239
Speaker 1: Speaking of process, what are your next three months going

348
00:19:21,320 --> 00:19:21,480
Speaker 1: to be?

349
00:19:21,640 --> 00:19:25,359
Speaker 3: Like? Yeah, so the next three months are are you know,

350
00:19:25,400 --> 00:19:29,359
Speaker 3: we're we're we're pretty similar because we we really do

351
00:19:29,440 --> 00:19:31,239
Speaker 3: go into the off season as if we have an

352
00:19:31,280 --> 00:19:35,360
Speaker 3: expansion team. So the next several weeks are really auditing,

353
00:19:36,720 --> 00:19:39,919
Speaker 3: you know what we do internally, really almost doing an

354
00:19:39,920 --> 00:19:43,800
Speaker 3: optopsy of the season. Obviously heavily involved in in in

355
00:19:44,000 --> 00:19:47,280
Speaker 3: hiring different positions with you know, the coaching staff and

356
00:19:47,320 --> 00:19:51,760
Speaker 3: football operations. We'll you know, we'll be in you know,

357
00:19:51,800 --> 00:19:53,919
Speaker 3: full attendance to the major All star games. We'll go

358
00:19:53,960 --> 00:19:59,440
Speaker 3: in the draft meetings, combine free agency planning. Uh, it'll

359
00:19:59,480 --> 00:20:01,159
Speaker 3: be a busy it will be a busy string. And

360
00:20:01,560 --> 00:20:04,359
Speaker 3: you know, once to start the league year opens, you know,

361
00:20:04,400 --> 00:20:07,119
Speaker 3: we'll have a plan in place with with vets and

362
00:20:07,359 --> 00:20:11,439
Speaker 3: eventually transition into into full time draft planning. But you

363
00:20:11,440 --> 00:20:14,120
Speaker 3: know we'll be we'll be ready to go once we're

364
00:20:14,119 --> 00:20:16,000
Speaker 3: being able to add players to the roster.

365
00:20:16,320 --> 00:20:19,320
Speaker 1: Sunday was exit interviews, and obviously there's a lot going on.

366
00:20:20,119 --> 00:20:24,640
Speaker 1: Were you, like a lot of fans keeping an eye

367
00:20:24,680 --> 00:20:27,920
Speaker 1: on the Patriots and Titans results and if so, what

368
00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:28,520
Speaker 1: was that like?

369
00:20:29,400 --> 00:20:32,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I'm not gonna trigger go and say

370
00:20:32,640 --> 00:20:35,200
Speaker 3: yeah we were, you know, after our season was after

371
00:20:35,240 --> 00:20:38,760
Speaker 3: our season was done. You know, like I said, I

372
00:20:38,760 --> 00:20:40,920
Speaker 3: hate how we got here, but you know, one of

373
00:20:40,960 --> 00:20:45,320
Speaker 3: the silver linings is that it can put you in

374
00:20:45,359 --> 00:20:48,240
Speaker 3: a position to have a great impact on the team

375
00:20:48,680 --> 00:20:54,760
Speaker 3: with however, you use a really rare and valuable asset. Obviously,

376
00:20:54,760 --> 00:20:58,000
Speaker 3: our primary focus was on our players, you know, but

377
00:20:58,280 --> 00:20:59,879
Speaker 3: you know, once I got through my exit interviews, I

378
00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:01,960
Speaker 3: as I was working, I did have an eye toward,

379
00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:05,240
Speaker 3: you know, toward those games because it does have a

380
00:21:05,320 --> 00:21:08,280
Speaker 3: positive impact for us as we enter the off season.

381
00:21:09,160 --> 00:21:11,760
Speaker 1: Does that involve like screaming and yelling at the TV

382
00:21:12,040 --> 00:21:13,840
Speaker 1: or are you a passive.

383
00:21:14,560 --> 00:21:17,760
Speaker 3: I'm a pretty I'm a pretty quiet and laid back,

384
00:21:18,119 --> 00:21:22,680
Speaker 3: laid back watcher. It's it's it's uh, it's more observational

385
00:21:22,800 --> 00:21:23,840
Speaker 3: than than emotional.

386
00:21:24,040 --> 00:21:27,200
Speaker 1: Andrew, the next three months is gonna be fascinating. Look

387
00:21:27,240 --> 00:21:29,760
Speaker 1: forward to seeing you on the road on the path

388
00:21:29,840 --> 00:21:32,080
Speaker 1: to the draft. As we used to say, I hope

389
00:21:32,119 --> 00:21:34,520
Speaker 1: you get five minutes at one point to have a

390
00:21:34,600 --> 00:21:37,560
Speaker 1: break and catch your breath. Uh in the off season,

391
00:21:37,760 --> 00:21:40,040
Speaker 1: And again, thanks for doing this.

392
00:21:40,520 --> 00:21:42,399
Speaker 3: Appreciate you Andrew. See you at the Seenia Bow.

393
00:21:42,680 --> 00:21:45,560
Speaker 1: The Bark Tank is going on the road. The Bark

394
00:21:45,640 --> 00:21:50,040
Speaker 1: Tank is going to the Senior Bowl. So take a breath,

395
00:21:50,680 --> 00:21:54,159
Speaker 1: enjoy CBD with Nathan and Bow every day in Cleveland

396
00:21:54,160 --> 00:21:56,040
Speaker 1: Browns dot com with the Browns YouTube page, all the

397
00:21:56,040 --> 00:22:02,880
Speaker 1: social channels and we I we'll see you for not one,

398
00:22:02,920 --> 00:22:07,520
Speaker 1: but multiple shows in Mobile, Alabama the week of the

399
00:22:07,560 --> 00:22:12,760
Speaker 1: conference championship games. We will be down there as college

400
00:22:12,760 --> 00:22:19,359
Speaker 1: football's best seniors and some underclassmen. Now get one final showcase.

401
00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:22,520
Speaker 1: If you've never really paid attention to the Senior Bowl,

402
00:22:23,840 --> 00:22:26,200
Speaker 1: it is awesome. You get the best of the best

403
00:22:26,200 --> 00:22:31,080
Speaker 1: competing against each other. It's great. You get a running

404
00:22:31,119 --> 00:22:34,119
Speaker 1: back from a group of five school going up against

405
00:22:34,160 --> 00:22:36,520
Speaker 1: the defensive lineman from the big ten of the SEC.

406
00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:37,880
Speaker 2: You get o.

407
00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:40,720
Speaker 1: Lineman from this conference against d Lyman, you get one

408
00:22:40,760 --> 00:22:47,440
Speaker 1: on ones. It's awesome content. Every coach, every GM is there. Again,

409
00:22:47,520 --> 00:22:50,720
Speaker 1: I'll say it, every coach, every.

410
00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:51,920
Speaker 2: GM is there.

411
00:22:52,520 --> 00:22:56,119
Speaker 1: And over the years it's been Baker Mayfield and Josh

412
00:22:56,200 --> 00:23:00,760
Speaker 1: Allen and Dak Prescott and Justin Herbert and Dalen Hurts,

413
00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:06,040
Speaker 1: you name it, they've gone through the Senior Bowl. We're

414
00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:09,719
Speaker 1: gonna have those guys. We're gonna have that group on

415
00:23:10,440 --> 00:23:16,879
Speaker 1: the bar tank. So until then, stay safe, everybody, and

416
00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:21,280
Speaker 1: we'll see in Mobile. This has been the Bartank was

417
00:23:21,320 --> 00:23:22,040
Speaker 1: out of my Sugardawn.

418
00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:23,600
Speaker 2: My name is Andrews. Siciliana So long,