WEBVTT - The 2022 All-Bust Team (Ep. 476) 0:00:00.440 --> 0:00:03.720 The worst team your draft money could buy. Let's talk 0:00:03.760 --> 0:00:17.960 to the pros. Welcome in everybody to Fantasy Pros. This 0:00:18.160 --> 0:00:21.560 is the Fantasy Baseball Podcast. It's be Joey p Joe Pisapia, 0:00:21.640 --> 0:00:24.159 That of course is the Welsh and it's you and 0:00:24.239 --> 0:00:27.960 today it's the All Bus team. That's right. The guys 0:00:28.000 --> 0:00:31.640 who are not going to have the best seasons, make 0:00:31.720 --> 0:00:35.000 no mistake about it. Some of these guys were saying 0:00:35.080 --> 0:00:37.400 that you might want to steer clear from and we're 0:00:37.440 --> 0:00:39.400 gonna give our reasons, as we always do. We don't 0:00:39.440 --> 0:00:43.120 blindly just throw out takes here at Fantasy Pros MLB. No, no, no, 0:00:43.520 --> 0:00:46.800 we're gonna back them all up here and Welsh, I know, 0:00:46.840 --> 0:00:48.839 we have a very exciting event coming up. We have 0:00:48.880 --> 0:00:52.760 a star studded, huge event coming up on Tuesday, six 0:00:52.800 --> 0:00:56.640 pm Eastern to ten pm Eastern, four straight hours of 0:00:56.680 --> 0:01:00.880 our Fantasyfest over at YouTube dot com slash Fantasy Pros MLB. 0:01:01.080 --> 0:01:03.680 So if you haven't already, make sure you subscribe to 0:01:03.720 --> 0:01:06.160 that YouTube channel everybody, so you get the notification of 0:01:06.160 --> 0:01:08.600 when the fest begins. Again. This is our MLB channel, 0:01:08.880 --> 0:01:11.600 not our regular Fantasy Pros channel. We're special here Welsh. 0:01:11.800 --> 0:01:15.320 We've got four hours. We're gonna do sleepers, cross breakouts, 0:01:15.319 --> 0:01:17.399 We're gonna do a mock draft. We're gonna talk prospects. 0:01:17.480 --> 0:01:21.039 We got Eric Cross, Frank Stanfeld, Nick Pollock, Derek Van Riper, 0:01:21.160 --> 0:01:23.960 Dalton dell Don, we got the Welsh, we got Bogman, 0:01:24.040 --> 0:01:26.160 we got everybody. Are you excited because I'm excited? 0:01:26.480 --> 0:01:28.880 Is it like a festivus? Is this a festivus or 0:01:28.920 --> 0:01:30.960 a festival Festivus. 0:01:30.400 --> 0:01:32.560 For the rest of us, You're gonna make airing of 0:01:32.600 --> 0:01:36.920 the grievances, perhaps the feet of strength. Okay, I cannot 0:01:36.959 --> 0:01:38.679 tell you if it's gonna happen or not, but I 0:01:38.680 --> 0:01:39.559 think there's a good chance. 0:01:39.760 --> 0:01:42.600 I think we should rebrand it as the Fantasy Pros Festivus, 0:01:42.600 --> 0:01:44.640 and then we could You could literally have one hour that's, 0:01:44.840 --> 0:01:47.000 you know, airing of the grievances. Me and Paul can 0:01:47.040 --> 0:01:49.600 get back into that whole player versus owner's thing again. 0:01:49.680 --> 0:01:51.920 And uh, I like the whole I like the festivus 0:01:51.920 --> 0:01:53.240 I did. No, I'm excited. I won't be there the 0:01:53.240 --> 0:01:55.440 whole time, but Bogmin and I are gonna be joining 0:01:55.480 --> 0:01:57.960 to do some mock drafting. Joey's gonna be holding it 0:01:58.000 --> 0:02:00.560 down in a very very good way to get everybody 0:02:00.600 --> 0:02:03.520 prepped for the fantasy baseball season, because it is weird. 0:02:03.520 --> 0:02:05.480 I got to tell you, like, we're in like week 0:02:05.760 --> 0:02:08.360 one of spring training, which I spent a lot of 0:02:08.680 --> 0:02:12.400 last week, but we're already in what theoretically this past 0:02:12.400 --> 0:02:15.520 weekend would have probably been the number one draft weekend 0:02:15.560 --> 0:02:19.480 in a normal year for fantasy baseball. That's most likely 0:02:19.520 --> 0:02:22.160 probably this coming weekend or the next weekend. So I 0:02:22.200 --> 0:02:24.320 feel like you still feel like a little bit thrown 0:02:24.360 --> 0:02:26.840 off on some of the stuff that you're doing. I 0:02:27.000 --> 0:02:28.720 just did taut you know, you're just starting to get 0:02:28.760 --> 0:02:31.160 into the drafts. But I will say that everybody should 0:02:31.160 --> 0:02:33.320 be pretty stoked, and hopefully everybody tunes in on Tuesday, 0:02:33.440 --> 0:02:35.720 gonna be lots of very very cool stuff, And I'm 0:02:35.760 --> 0:02:39.440 excited to see everybody's happy faces and getting excited about baseball. 0:02:40.160 --> 0:02:42.080 Yes, and that's the thing. It's gonna be a high fest, 0:02:42.160 --> 0:02:43.799 is going to be an information fest. It's going to 0:02:43.840 --> 0:02:45.919 be a fun fest. Maybe I should start the entire 0:02:45.919 --> 0:02:47.560 festival off with I got a lot of problems with 0:02:47.600 --> 0:02:52.000 you people, just like mister Costanza did with Georgiat dinner, 0:02:52.480 --> 0:02:54.239 but you know we should invent a holiday. Well, she 0:02:54.320 --> 0:02:58.040 and I are very prolific as like to ex fact 0:02:58.040 --> 0:03:00.399 that one was just on this weekend too, so fresh 0:03:00.480 --> 0:03:02.080 in my mind that you called it at Festivus. It 0:03:02.320 --> 0:03:05.360 literally was watching it on Saturday morning and having breakfast 0:03:05.560 --> 0:03:09.280 to that episode of Seinfeld. It's a classic. I love it. Also, 0:03:09.360 --> 0:03:11.919 don't forget we've got our MLB Draftkit at Fantasypros dot 0:03:11.960 --> 0:03:14.680 com slash kit, so you could dominate your draft with 0:03:14.680 --> 0:03:18.160 our free MLB Draft kick at fantasypros dot com slash Kit. 0:03:18.200 --> 0:03:21.280 It's a loader with consensus rankings, projections, got the salary 0:03:21.320 --> 0:03:23.919 cap values in there, so we've got salarycap draft going on. 0:03:24.080 --> 0:03:26.000 You can print out the sheet sheets in there. They 0:03:26.080 --> 0:03:28.680 got the sleepers, the bus, the draft strategy and more 0:03:29.000 --> 0:03:32.480 and it's all for you for free. That's right at 0:03:32.520 --> 0:03:35.160 fantasypros dot com slash Kit. So get that. And also 0:03:35.480 --> 0:03:38.200 to piggyback what we're doing today because we're picking our 0:03:38.240 --> 0:03:40.600 all bust team. We're gonna have a catcher, first base, 0:03:40.600 --> 0:03:43.440 second base, their base shorts slop, one outfielder, two pitchers, 0:03:43.760 --> 0:03:47.680 and a reliever. We also have our consensus bust featured 0:03:47.720 --> 0:03:50.080 pros out there, so we like to we'd like to 0:03:50.120 --> 0:03:52.680 cast a wide net, don't we Welsh to the rest 0:03:52.720 --> 0:03:55.440 of the fantasy baseball public get their thoughts as well, 0:03:55.680 --> 0:03:57.160 so you can keep an eye out for that at 0:03:57.160 --> 0:04:00.280 fantasypros dot com too. That's the consensus bust article goal 0:04:00.560 --> 0:04:03.080 that should be out there, probably somewhere around the same 0:04:03.120 --> 0:04:06.320 time that this podcast drops. So Welsh, I know you're 0:04:06.320 --> 0:04:08.600 not one for negativity, So does this hurt your soul? 0:04:08.720 --> 0:04:11.280 Never to mention these busts players here. 0:04:11.560 --> 0:04:13.920 You know, all joking aside to you say that that 0:04:14.000 --> 0:04:17.640 I can jump into the negativity range. Ironically, I'm not 0:04:17.839 --> 0:04:22.839 the biggest like sleeper bust like the podcast, but not 0:04:22.920 --> 0:04:25.120 the biggest sleeper bus type of guy because at the 0:04:25.200 --> 0:04:27.479 end of the day, a lot of it becomes relative 0:04:27.600 --> 0:04:30.120 to me. And I know that's a lot of people 0:04:30.680 --> 0:04:33.600 will not go in this range where it's like it 0:04:33.640 --> 0:04:36.320 is pure player takes. There's a lot and you know what, 0:04:36.360 --> 0:04:38.240 a lot of successful people like that, but it is 0:04:38.279 --> 0:04:40.600 player take the player take where I will sit in 0:04:40.960 --> 0:04:44.120 a space where I think value can be very important 0:04:44.440 --> 0:04:46.719 and you're talking about tears like everybody will, you know, 0:04:46.760 --> 0:04:49.120 shoe off a player forever, but then push comes to 0:04:49.120 --> 0:04:51.960 shove and a draft you your positionless in that one spot. 0:04:52.120 --> 0:04:53.880 This guy has falling thirty picks, and all of a 0:04:53.920 --> 0:04:56.359 sudden you find yourself drafting him. That a lot of 0:04:56.360 --> 0:04:59.159 the times, the whole idea of like sleepers and bus 0:04:59.160 --> 0:05:02.279 and stuff like that are relative to value, and like 0:05:02.360 --> 0:05:04.280 I will look at guys being like, well, you know 0:05:04.360 --> 0:05:05.960 this guy, and I've got a couple of those. Today 0:05:05.960 --> 0:05:07.840 we're going to talk about where you know this guy 0:05:07.880 --> 0:05:10.440 over here. I don't necessarily think he's a bust from 0:05:10.520 --> 0:05:12.520 a it's kind of like our PV from a relative 0:05:12.560 --> 0:05:15.440 like where you're going to draft them, to what production 0:05:15.520 --> 0:05:18.440 you can get later that's kind of busti ish, to 0:05:18.800 --> 0:05:21.880 what investment you're gonna make. But I don't tend to 0:05:22.000 --> 0:05:24.920 have like I hate this guy, this guy is going 0:05:25.000 --> 0:05:27.920 to bomb out, blah blah blah. I'm a little bit 0:05:27.960 --> 0:05:29.920 more neutral when it comes to these type of things. 0:05:29.960 --> 0:05:31.839 But I did pick out and I do have a 0:05:31.839 --> 0:05:33.839 whole set of guys for my all bust team today. 0:05:35.080 --> 0:05:37.520 I agree wholeheartedly with what you're saying in the sentiment 0:05:37.560 --> 0:05:39.599 behind it, because I feel the same way, which is 0:05:40.320 --> 0:05:42.320 probably I think what you're saying is every player has 0:05:42.360 --> 0:05:43.880 their place. It's just whether or not I want to 0:05:43.920 --> 0:05:46.760 pay that cost for them, and what's the return on 0:05:46.800 --> 0:05:48.839 that investment. I mean, we've talked about a lot of 0:05:48.839 --> 0:05:51.920 players here for different reasons, of different controversies surrounding them, 0:05:51.960 --> 0:05:54.880 but it's all about, well, what's the risk reward and 0:05:54.960 --> 0:05:56.520 what kind of investment do I have to make in 0:05:56.520 --> 0:05:58.520 that player? And I think for me, that's how I 0:05:58.560 --> 0:06:00.400 approach this list. It was trying to look at where 0:06:00.440 --> 0:06:04.119 I just felt uncomfortable for a myriad of reasons about 0:06:04.120 --> 0:06:07.240 certain players at certain ADPs that I felt like I 0:06:07.320 --> 0:06:09.520 just can't wrap my mind around this particular guy. 0:06:10.320 --> 0:06:12.360 And I think, like that's like a majority of what 0:06:12.480 --> 0:06:15.839 mine is here. But there are instances, like the true 0:06:15.880 --> 0:06:18.200 bus would be the situations where you look at a 0:06:18.200 --> 0:06:20.360 guy and you're like, let's just for I don't have 0:06:20.440 --> 0:06:22.320 him on this list, but let's just arguments. They say, 0:06:22.400 --> 0:06:26.839 Robbie Ray, you know, Robbie Ray absolute breakout last year, huge, 0:06:26.920 --> 0:06:29.839 huge breakout, became a top ten you know, overall starting 0:06:29.880 --> 0:06:33.840 pitcher from obscurity to probably barely even being drafted. There 0:06:33.880 --> 0:06:35.760 could be an instance if you were the person that 0:06:35.800 --> 0:06:38.080 didn't like Robbie Ray this year and you thought what 0:06:38.200 --> 0:06:40.479 last year was was a fluke and it was just 0:06:40.520 --> 0:06:42.520 a one year wonder. He's also going to a completely 0:06:42.680 --> 0:06:45.960 new team, a new destination that that could be a 0:06:45.960 --> 0:06:49.280 situation where you move beyond just bus where you're just like, well, listen, 0:06:49.400 --> 0:06:52.320 this guy not only is like a top forty overall player, 0:06:52.560 --> 0:06:54.160 I think he's going to go back to where he 0:06:54.320 --> 0:06:57.240 is and he's you know, there is no value to 0:06:57.400 --> 0:06:59.480 drafting him. And I know some people get like that, 0:06:59.760 --> 0:07:01.120 but I think you and I are kind of in 0:07:01.160 --> 0:07:02.719 that same place. And I like how you said it, 0:07:02.760 --> 0:07:06.120 like there's a place for everybody in their draft and 0:07:06.160 --> 0:07:07.760 that kind of can dictate the sleeper and. 0:07:07.720 --> 0:07:11.160 Bust idea agreed. All right, so let's talk about the 0:07:11.160 --> 0:07:13.680 all bust team. And you know, I know last year 0:07:13.720 --> 0:07:15.120 there were a couple of players that I picked his 0:07:15.160 --> 0:07:17.280 bus that turned out pretty good, but there were a 0:07:17.320 --> 0:07:19.280 few bus that I was spot on. So I'm going 0:07:19.320 --> 0:07:20.960 to try to go perfect here. 0:07:21.040 --> 0:07:22.760 Do you remember what you had last year? Was there, like, 0:07:22.840 --> 0:07:24.200 did you have a really good fun of them? 0:07:24.240 --> 0:07:26.280 I was wrong about And I will take my l 0:07:26.440 --> 0:07:28.920 and I will take my medicine I was uncomfortable with 0:07:29.000 --> 0:07:31.800 Randy rose Arena. I didn't have enough of a sample size. 0:07:31.520 --> 0:07:33.600 You know what. I remember that he was going and 0:07:33.720 --> 0:07:34.000 I was. 0:07:33.960 --> 0:07:36.160 And I was very steadfast about it. I thought, this guy, 0:07:37.000 --> 0:07:38.920 you got to take him. He'd better be that dude. 0:07:39.040 --> 0:07:40.600 And you know what, he was that dude. So I 0:07:40.880 --> 0:07:42.800 give everybody who drafted him there a lot of credit. 0:07:43.200 --> 0:07:46.120 I was just uncomfortable there because it was that glorious 0:07:46.160 --> 0:07:49.480 postseason in a weird twenty twenty season. I just I 0:07:49.520 --> 0:07:51.480 did not feel comfortable in twenty twenty one just making 0:07:51.520 --> 0:07:54.120 a big investment in him. And that's fine, Like he 0:07:54.280 --> 0:07:56.280 was not a bust and you know what, I didn't 0:07:56.280 --> 0:07:59.000 have any shares? Should I have? Yeah, And it's okay. 0:07:59.320 --> 0:08:01.160 You know. There's one thing to in this industry that 0:08:01.200 --> 0:08:04.160 I hate is like no analyst ever refuses to admit 0:08:04.240 --> 0:08:06.640 I feel like when they're wrong because their egos sometimes 0:08:06.640 --> 0:08:08.800 maybe too fragile. I don't know what it is, But 0:08:09.120 --> 0:08:11.400 if we don't admit we're wrong, how can we learn 0:08:11.440 --> 0:08:14.160 from those mistakes? And even going back into the track record, 0:08:14.360 --> 0:08:16.880 I dug deep into his cardinal days in the minor 0:08:16.960 --> 0:08:19.040 league system there and I was looking like he's a 0:08:19.120 --> 0:08:22.320 nice player. It seems like it's sustainable. But it's the 0:08:22.440 --> 0:08:24.200 Ray's offense. What are they going to do? You know? 0:08:24.200 --> 0:08:26.760 And they made additions, you know, Wander Franco and Nelson 0:08:26.760 --> 0:08:28.920 Cruz in that offense I think helped a Rose raina 0:08:29.000 --> 0:08:31.280 quite a bit in the second half of last year. 0:08:31.320 --> 0:08:33.480 So you could also point to those things that were 0:08:33.520 --> 0:08:35.640 not there in the beginning of twenty twenty one when 0:08:35.679 --> 0:08:37.640 I was not happy about him. Had he had more 0:08:37.640 --> 0:08:39.480 line of protection at the beginning of the year, maybe 0:08:39.520 --> 0:08:41.640 I would have felt differently about it too. But again, 0:08:41.679 --> 0:08:43.840 this is all the circumstances, and Welsh said, we're here 0:08:44.040 --> 0:08:45.880 at the end of March trying to make this work. 0:08:45.960 --> 0:08:48.960 So let's start at the catcher position here in the backstop. 0:08:49.320 --> 0:08:51.520 Who is your guy that you think is going to 0:08:51.559 --> 0:08:54.080 be a bus based on your ADP investment. 0:08:54.360 --> 0:08:57.520 Okay, so I avoided doing the thing that I wanted 0:08:57.559 --> 0:09:03.120 to do. That just says that sounds like you at home. Yeah, Hey, yeah, 0:09:03.280 --> 0:09:04.320 I avoided. 0:09:03.960 --> 0:09:06.160 Doing the thing I wanted to do because I wasn't. 0:09:05.960 --> 0:09:07.640 Allowed to do so I didn't want to get yelled at. Yeah, 0:09:07.640 --> 0:09:10.640 exactly right. The thing I want to say is I'm 0:09:10.679 --> 0:09:13.160 just not going to invest in catchers early. So any 0:09:13.320 --> 0:09:17.200 early catcher feels very bust ish. You could argue Salvador 0:09:17.280 --> 0:09:20.280 Perez having to repeat is quite uh, you know, it's 0:09:20.360 --> 0:09:23.040 quite a jump. Now. The thing that it also both 0:09:23.080 --> 0:09:25.079 levels of playing field though, is with the DH, you're 0:09:25.080 --> 0:09:26.480 gonna get a lot of catchers that are going to 0:09:26.520 --> 0:09:28.920 be popping out at DH. Will Smith would be a 0:09:28.920 --> 0:09:31.200 prime example of a guy that I think is going 0:09:31.200 --> 0:09:34.839 to DH. More so in the past, my baseline has 0:09:34.840 --> 0:09:37.480 been any catcher inside the top one hundred I don't like. 0:09:37.559 --> 0:09:39.120 So I'm going to say that and take the last 0:09:39.120 --> 0:09:41.280 guys I do think things are different. They think Will 0:09:41.320 --> 0:09:43.920 Smith can live that range. I think JJ Romuto can 0:09:43.920 --> 0:09:46.920 live that range. Obviously Salve can live that range. Those 0:09:46.920 --> 0:09:51.000 are the only three though, So the prime person I'm 0:09:51.000 --> 0:09:52.959 going to start to look at is who is that 0:09:53.160 --> 0:09:56.400 next crew, whether they're right at one hundred or right 0:09:56.559 --> 0:09:59.320 near one hundred that you're going to have to pay for. 0:10:00.000 --> 0:10:03.680 And the bust has to do more with the value 0:10:03.760 --> 0:10:08.280 of what you're paying. So I picked Yasmani Grandal really 0:10:08.280 --> 0:10:11.280 bad batting average. One of the interesting things about Yasmani 0:10:11.320 --> 0:10:13.240 Grandal too is. If you look at the guys ahead 0:10:13.240 --> 0:10:16.160 of him, you've got all high batting average players that 0:10:16.240 --> 0:10:20.400 have got some power. Salvi, Ramuto, will Smith. These are 0:10:20.400 --> 0:10:24.080 all high batting average players good power. Middle isia of 0:10:24.080 --> 0:10:29.320 the lineup where Yasmani is not a good average type 0:10:29.360 --> 0:10:31.520 of guy. He is not a great guy. Bat X 0:10:31.600 --> 0:10:35.360 projections have him at two point thirty two this season. Now, 0:10:35.360 --> 0:10:37.680 they are very favorable in the twenty five homer mark, 0:10:38.200 --> 0:10:41.760 but you know, you could get Mike Zanino for a 0:10:41.840 --> 0:10:45.319 little bit less batting average the same projected homers two 0:10:45.400 --> 0:10:48.760 hundred picks later. There's also just better batting average bets 0:10:48.800 --> 0:10:51.640 you can have later. Dalton Varshow is one of the 0:10:51.679 --> 0:10:53.760 few catchers I worrely want to invest in, and he's 0:10:53.920 --> 0:10:57.400 cheaper than Yasmani. So it's not so much that Yasmani 0:10:57.400 --> 0:10:59.959 grandal is not going to pay off. It's just paying 0:11:00.000 --> 0:11:02.600 somewhere between one hundred and call it one p thirty, 0:11:02.800 --> 0:11:05.560 somewhere in that range for a two thirty hitter at 0:11:05.640 --> 0:11:10.800 catcher when there is serviceable replacements way way lower. Tyler Stevenson, 0:11:10.840 --> 0:11:12.920 Dalton Varshow, you want to go even later, Go get 0:11:12.920 --> 0:11:15.920 a Max Stacy go get a Sean Murphy do something 0:11:16.000 --> 0:11:18.360 like that. I don't like the cost and I don't 0:11:18.360 --> 0:11:20.160 think it makes sense. There's a lot of good pictures there. 0:11:20.240 --> 0:11:23.360 There's some closers, incredible outfielders. So I'm going to go 0:11:23.440 --> 0:11:25.880 based on cost Y'asmani Grendel. 0:11:27.000 --> 0:11:29.800 Yeah, for me, it's Kybert Ruiz, and not because I 0:11:29.800 --> 0:11:31.559 don't like the player or the potential, because I do. 0:11:32.200 --> 0:11:32.280 Uh. 0:11:32.400 --> 0:11:34.600 The kid crushed a triple a in two different spots 0:11:34.679 --> 0:11:36.719 last year when he got traded from the Dodgers over 0:11:36.760 --> 0:11:39.680 to the Nationals. Certainly a guy can hit for high average. 0:11:39.679 --> 0:11:41.200 He's got some pop in the bat, There's no doubt 0:11:41.240 --> 0:11:44.200 about that. I always struggle Welsh, and I learned this 0:11:44.320 --> 0:11:47.480 lesson in my youth with Matt UIs, which is you 0:11:47.520 --> 0:11:51.120 can like a young, offensive minded catcher all you want, 0:11:51.280 --> 0:11:54.160 but their job is not to care about your fantasy team. 0:11:54.200 --> 0:11:56.000 Their job is to learn the pictures on your staff 0:11:56.000 --> 0:11:58.400 and manage all that stuff, and oftentimes they get so 0:11:58.440 --> 0:12:01.560 wrapped up in that the offense ends up kind of 0:12:01.760 --> 0:12:03.079 falling behind a little bit. You know. 0:12:03.120 --> 0:12:05.640 It's interesting, Sorry about that's concerned. For me, that was 0:12:05.679 --> 0:12:08.880 Carson Kelly's path. If people remember Carson Kelly was with 0:12:08.960 --> 0:12:12.319 the Cardinals er he was an offensive catcher, and he 0:12:12.360 --> 0:12:14.280 really was kind of behind the eight ball as far 0:12:14.360 --> 0:12:16.400 as who he was defensively, and he ended up spending 0:12:16.400 --> 0:12:20.040 two years hyper focused defensively and lost that bat and 0:12:20.080 --> 0:12:21.960 then was able to kind of turn it back around, 0:12:21.960 --> 0:12:23.920 not to a big degree, but it did set him back. 0:12:23.960 --> 0:12:26.520 The only difference with Kybert that's interesting is this has 0:12:26.520 --> 0:12:28.760 been like a high three hundred hitter in the minor 0:12:28.880 --> 0:12:31.600 league who then the last couple of years adjusted to 0:12:31.640 --> 0:12:34.720 start hitting for power. I'm a little torn on him. 0:12:35.160 --> 0:12:37.160 I don't know either way. Like what I like is 0:12:37.160 --> 0:12:39.440 it's not a crazy cost but it's still like a 0:12:39.480 --> 0:12:41.680 top ten cost a catcher, and I think it's top 0:12:41.679 --> 0:12:42.680 two hundred overall. 0:12:42.720 --> 0:12:46.520 Seven he's seven catchers, Yeah, I don't know, seven overall. 0:12:46.520 --> 0:12:49.160 In the expert consensus rankings on Fantasy Pros, he's won 0:12:49.240 --> 0:12:51.720 seventy five overall and he's going the same place as 0:12:51.760 --> 0:12:55.880 Tyler Stevenson, Mitch Garver, Gary Sanchez, Travis Darnault. Like, I 0:12:55.880 --> 0:12:57.520 just don't see a whole lot of separation there. 0:12:57.640 --> 0:12:59.080 Yeah, totally, there's a big. 0:12:59.040 --> 0:13:01.800 Drop off between our show and Contreras is about fifty 0:13:01.800 --> 0:13:03.920 picks until you get to Ruiz. But I just feel 0:13:03.920 --> 0:13:05.920 like people will look at that and say, oh, I'll 0:13:05.920 --> 0:13:08.240 just take Ruiz later because he's got this upside. But really, 0:13:08.520 --> 0:13:11.240 you know, once you get over there, they're all kind 0:13:11.240 --> 0:13:13.440 of the same, and there's a downside to the young catcher. 0:13:13.480 --> 0:13:16.920 The downside is is he calling the right game, is he, 0:13:17.360 --> 0:13:19.960 you know, getting the feel for the pitching staff and 0:13:20.000 --> 0:13:21.800 all the other relief pitchers. He's got to manage you 0:13:21.920 --> 0:13:24.560 and understand, there's just a lot for a young catcher, 0:13:24.960 --> 0:13:27.240 especially you know, early in his career, to take on 0:13:27.400 --> 0:13:30.280 and sometimes you just don't see that bat come right away. 0:13:30.720 --> 0:13:32.480 And you're right, he was always a good contact guy. 0:13:32.520 --> 0:13:34.440 The power's come a little later. But he's only twenty 0:13:34.480 --> 0:13:37.760 three years old this year, so you know, we could say, well, 0:13:37.840 --> 0:13:40.439 he's just growing into the power. That's fair. But it's 0:13:40.440 --> 0:13:42.720 just not a player that I'm probably gonna take because 0:13:42.720 --> 0:13:44.760 I think there's just more risks than people realize. So 0:13:44.840 --> 0:13:47.079 let's go to first base here. Who is a player 0:13:47.080 --> 0:13:48.959 at first base that's going to make your all bust 0:13:49.000 --> 0:13:49.680 team Welsh? 0:13:49.920 --> 0:13:52.520 All right? So this one is in the same vein again, 0:13:52.520 --> 0:13:53.520 a lot of these are going to be in the 0:13:53.559 --> 0:13:55.800 same vein as I was kind of looking through these again. 0:13:55.880 --> 0:13:58.000 You know you look, you talk about relative value, and 0:13:58.040 --> 0:14:00.120 you're just like, I don't know, you know, I I 0:14:00.200 --> 0:14:02.280 like these top guys obviously if I can get vlad 0:14:02.360 --> 0:14:05.040 or Freeman or Olson, and then if I miss out, 0:14:05.080 --> 0:14:07.080 and I'm usually going to kind of wait towards the 0:14:07.120 --> 0:14:09.000 back end. I have a heavy target on a guy 0:14:09.080 --> 0:14:11.480 like let's say Joey Vado or CJ. Crohn. But there's 0:14:11.480 --> 0:14:13.480 a guy that's going ahead of them that just kind 0:14:13.480 --> 0:14:15.360 of jumps out to me, and he's right at the 0:14:15.360 --> 0:14:18.800 cusp of top one hundred, and it's Ryan Mountcastle. Who 0:14:19.040 --> 0:14:21.360 I'm gonna put is my bust here. There's a couple 0:14:21.400 --> 0:14:24.080 of reasons. You also have the fences being moved back 0:14:24.120 --> 0:14:25.920 a little bit, which helps a guy like John Means 0:14:25.960 --> 0:14:28.360 does not necessarily help any of these guys. If you 0:14:28.480 --> 0:14:31.240 chop off and lop off a little bit of that power, 0:14:31.520 --> 0:14:34.520 you know, there's some of that upside. But here's the 0:14:34.560 --> 0:14:37.600 next big thing with him, you know, contact to power 0:14:38.360 --> 0:14:40.320 with the Orioles. I mean, it's a decent it was 0:14:40.360 --> 0:14:43.200 a decent park to hit in. It's a tough division, 0:14:43.440 --> 0:14:45.680 I think overall, especially pitching wise, and this is a 0:14:45.720 --> 0:14:47.760 young bat, but look at the guys that are going 0:14:47.800 --> 0:14:50.920 below him on the consensus ranks as far as Fantasy 0:14:50.960 --> 0:14:54.760 pros go. You have Rehee Hoskins, Joey Vado, even Jake 0:14:54.800 --> 0:14:59.160 crona Worth, Josh Bell down there. And I'm sorting it 0:14:59.200 --> 0:15:00.920 by first base, but a lot of times you are 0:15:00.960 --> 0:15:03.200 going to see c. J. Kron going pretty and Jared 0:15:03.240 --> 0:15:07.920 Walsh going below Ryan Mountcastle. So for to reach for 0:15:08.040 --> 0:15:11.400 a guy where they also just moved the ballpark parameters 0:15:11.400 --> 0:15:13.600 a little bit back that could suppress a little bit power, 0:15:14.320 --> 0:15:16.880 not a whole lot of help, tough division, all of 0:15:16.920 --> 0:15:20.040 those things to pay up for him, and passing on 0:15:20.280 --> 0:15:22.840 guys like are waiting on guys like Joey Vado or CJ. 0:15:22.960 --> 0:15:25.800 Kron It doesn't make sense to me. So based on 0:15:25.840 --> 0:15:27.760 that value, I think we're gonna look back and go, man, 0:15:27.760 --> 0:15:30.520 can you believe we took Mountcastle and we passed on 0:15:30.800 --> 0:15:33.560 Max Munsey because of the injury, or we passed on CJ. 0:15:33.720 --> 0:15:36.720 Crohn in Colorado? So I'll take Ryan Mountcastle. 0:15:37.280 --> 0:15:39.440 You could basically copy and paste your argument for my 0:15:39.520 --> 0:15:41.600 guy and Maltcastle was one that I had circled to 0:15:41.840 --> 0:15:45.800 potentially to name, and I'm glad you name him because 0:15:45.840 --> 0:15:50.080 I feel exactly the same way as DJ Lemayhew, who is, yeah, 0:15:50.160 --> 0:15:52.680 I know, very tantalizing because he qualifies the different positions. 0:15:53.520 --> 0:15:56.000 I'm not exactly sure where the confidence level is for 0:15:56.000 --> 0:15:58.880 the Yankees too, when they brought an Ikfair two. I 0:15:58.920 --> 0:16:00.160 don't know if it's a matter of well, if G. 0:16:00.200 --> 0:16:02.200 Labor Torres starts to hit again and le Maayhew doesn't, 0:16:02.240 --> 0:16:04.200 does le Mayhew lose playing time? I don't know. I 0:16:04.200 --> 0:16:06.760 think there's a lot there, and the guys you mentioned there, 0:16:06.960 --> 0:16:10.640 Vadal Walsh, Reese Hoskins, CJ. Cron all going after them. 0:16:10.640 --> 0:16:13.360 Because right now Mountcastle's at one to eleven overall, the 0:16:13.400 --> 0:16:15.880 twelfth first basement off the board. Kyle Schwarber is the 0:16:15.880 --> 0:16:18.120 thirteenth at won twelve. That's no brain. I take Schwarber 0:16:18.160 --> 0:16:20.160 over Mont Castle a no brainer, and I take him 0:16:20.160 --> 0:16:22.720 over DJ Lemayhew every time. So for me, it's just 0:16:23.320 --> 0:16:25.640 if there's a guy in that range I like at Schwarber, 0:16:26.200 --> 0:16:28.880 and then after that range, I'd rather just wait another 0:16:29.120 --> 0:16:32.960 ten to thirty picks and get one of those other guys, 0:16:32.960 --> 0:16:34.440 because I feel like it's just not going to be 0:16:34.480 --> 0:16:36.800 that much of a difference. There's no there's no relative 0:16:37.200 --> 0:16:40.800 position value advantage by reaching for Mountcastle, by reaching for 0:16:40.880 --> 0:16:45.119 le Mayhew, despite the fact that he's got obviously position flexibility, 0:16:45.120 --> 0:16:47.240 which I was huge and everybody loves that. But last 0:16:47.280 --> 0:16:48.960 year was a really Last year was a year that 0:16:48.960 --> 0:16:51.480 looked a lot more like DJ Lemayhew that we knew 0:16:51.840 --> 0:16:54.280 before he got to New York and had that crazy 0:16:54.280 --> 0:16:56.840 season out of nowhere. We had twenty six home runs 0:16:56.880 --> 0:16:59.080 and drove in one hundred runs and scored one hundred runs. 0:16:59.360 --> 0:17:01.080 You know, I understand he was good in the short sample, 0:17:01.120 --> 0:17:04.240 but last year, after twenty twenty and twenty twenty one, 0:17:04.320 --> 0:17:06.160 he came back to Earth and looked a lot more 0:17:06.200 --> 0:17:08.160 like the dude we saw in Colorado all those years. 0:17:08.280 --> 0:17:11.159 You know, It's funny. If you want position flexibility with 0:17:11.240 --> 0:17:14.200 decent bats, you go get Jake Cronaworth and Typhrance. Those 0:17:14.200 --> 0:17:17.439 are the new DJ Lemayhew's here. This is a nice park. 0:17:17.920 --> 0:17:20.600 But earlier in the season we were taking a look 0:17:20.640 --> 0:17:23.639 over and in this league at DJ lem Mayhew on 0:17:23.960 --> 0:17:26.760 the bat x as Derek Carty's projection system. Projections are 0:17:26.800 --> 0:17:28.960 on everything, but over fangrafts you can check out lots 0:17:29.000 --> 0:17:31.680 of different ones atc Ario. Who you've had on is 0:17:31.720 --> 0:17:34.000 a good aggregate I like to follow. I think the 0:17:34.000 --> 0:17:36.720 bad X does a really good job on hitters. And 0:17:37.000 --> 0:17:40.320 we were looking at also comparing a lot of the 0:17:40.359 --> 0:17:44.280 different projections, and at that time the bad X had 0:17:44.320 --> 0:17:47.439 dj lem Mayhew projected at ten homers. Well, with all 0:17:47.480 --> 0:17:49.600 the new moves, they've now moved down in one hundred 0:17:49.600 --> 0:17:52.879 and twenty nine games just over five hundred at bats, 0:17:52.920 --> 0:17:56.640 the bad X projects dj Lemayhew at nine homers and 0:17:56.840 --> 0:18:00.119 two stolen bases with the two seventy something batting average. 0:18:00.480 --> 0:18:01.879 That's not in that range. 0:18:01.960 --> 0:18:04.000