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Speaker 1: The worst team your draft money could buy. Let's talk

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Speaker 1: to the pros. Welcome in everybody to Fantasy Pros. This

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Speaker 1: is the Fantasy Baseball Podcast. It's be Joey p Joe Pisapia,

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Speaker 1: That of course is the Welsh and it's you and

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Speaker 1: today it's the All Bus team. That's right. The guys

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Speaker 1: who are not going to have the best seasons, make

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Speaker 1: no mistake about it. Some of these guys were saying

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Speaker 1: that you might want to steer clear from and we're

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Speaker 1: gonna give our reasons, as we always do. We don't

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Speaker 1: blindly just throw out takes here at Fantasy Pros MLB. No, no, no,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna back them all up here and Welsh, I know,

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Speaker 1: we have a very exciting event coming up. We have

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Speaker 1: a star studded, huge event coming up on Tuesday, six

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Speaker 1: pm Eastern to ten pm Eastern, four straight hours of

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Speaker 1: our Fantasyfest over at YouTube dot com slash Fantasy Pros MLB.

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Speaker 1: So if you haven't already, make sure you subscribe to

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Speaker 1: that YouTube channel everybody, so you get the notification of

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Speaker 1: when the fest begins. Again. This is our MLB channel,

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Speaker 1: not our regular Fantasy Pros channel. We're special here Welsh.

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Speaker 1: We've got four hours. We're gonna do sleepers, cross breakouts,

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Speaker 1: We're gonna do a mock draft. We're gonna talk prospects.

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Speaker 1: We got Eric Cross, Frank Stanfeld, Nick Pollock, Derek Van Riper,

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Speaker 1: Dalton dell Don, we got the Welsh, we got Bogman,

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Speaker 1: we got everybody. Are you excited because I'm excited?

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Speaker 2: Is it like a festivus? Is this a festivus or

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Speaker 2: a festival Festivus.

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Speaker 1: For the rest of us, You're gonna make airing of

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Speaker 1: the grievances, perhaps the feet of strength. Okay, I cannot

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Speaker 1: tell you if it's gonna happen or not, but I

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Speaker 1: think there's a good chance.

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Speaker 2: I think we should rebrand it as the Fantasy Pros Festivus,

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Speaker 2: and then we could You could literally have one hour that's,

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Speaker 2: you know, airing of the grievances. Me and Paul can

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Speaker 2: get back into that whole player versus owner's thing again.

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Speaker 2: And uh, I like the whole I like the festivus

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Speaker 2: I did. No, I'm excited. I won't be there the

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Speaker 2: whole time, but Bogmin and I are gonna be joining

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Speaker 2: to do some mock drafting. Joey's gonna be holding it

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Speaker 2: down in a very very good way to get everybody

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Speaker 2: prepped for the fantasy baseball season, because it is weird.

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Speaker 2: I got to tell you, like, we're in like week

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Speaker 2: one of spring training, which I spent a lot of

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Speaker 2: last week, but we're already in what theoretically this past

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Speaker 2: weekend would have probably been the number one draft weekend

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Speaker 2: in a normal year for fantasy baseball. That's most likely

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Speaker 2: probably this coming weekend or the next weekend. So I

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Speaker 2: feel like you still feel like a little bit thrown

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Speaker 2: just did taut you know, you're just starting to get

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Speaker 2: gonna be lots of very very cool stuff, And I'm

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Speaker 2: excited to see everybody's happy faces and getting excited about baseball.

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Speaker 1: Yes, and that's the thing. It's gonna be a high fest,

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Speaker 1: is going to be an information fest. It's going to

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Speaker 1: be a fun fest. Maybe I should start the entire

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Speaker 1: festival off with I got a lot of problems with

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Speaker 1: you people, just like mister Costanza did with Georgiat dinner,

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Speaker 1: but you know we should invent a holiday. Well, she

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Speaker 1: and I are very prolific as like to ex fact

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Speaker 1: that one was just on this weekend too, so fresh

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Speaker 1: in my mind that you called it at Festivus. It

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Speaker 1: literally was watching it on Saturday morning and having breakfast

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Speaker 1: to that episode of Seinfeld. It's a classic. I love it. Also,

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Speaker 1: It's a loader with consensus rankings, projections, got the salary

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Speaker 1: You can print out the sheet sheets in there. They

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Speaker 1: got the sleepers, the bus, the draft strategy and more

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Speaker 1: fantasypros dot com slash Kit. So get that. And also

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Speaker 1: to piggyback what we're doing today because we're picking our

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Speaker 1: all bust team. We're gonna have a catcher, first base,

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Speaker 1: pros out there, so we like to we'd like to

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Speaker 1: cast a wide net, don't we Welsh to the rest

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Speaker 1: of the fantasy baseball public get their thoughts as well,

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Speaker 1: so you can keep an eye out for that at

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Speaker 1: fantasypros dot com too. That's the consensus bust article goal

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Speaker 1: not one for negativity, So does this hurt your soul?

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Speaker 2: But I did pick out and I do have a

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Speaker 1: I agree wholeheartedly with what you're saying in the sentiment

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Speaker 2: And I think, like that's like a majority of what

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Speaker 2: Robbie Ray, you know, Robbie Ray absolute breakout last year, huge,

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Speaker 1: all bust team. And you know, I know last year

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Speaker 2: Do you remember what you had last year? Was there, like,

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Speaker 1: And I was very steadfast about it. I thought, this guy,

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Speaker 1: And they made additions, you know, Wander Franco and Nelson

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Speaker 1: So you could also point to those things that were

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Speaker 1: I was not happy about him. Had he had more

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Speaker 1: I would have felt differently about it too. But again,

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Speaker 1: this is all the circumstances, and Welsh said, we're here

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Speaker 1: So let's start at the catcher position here in the backstop.

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Speaker 1: Who is your guy that you think is going to

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Speaker 2: Okay, so I avoided doing the thing that I wanted

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Speaker 2: to do. That just says that sounds like you at home. Yeah, Hey, yeah,

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Speaker 1: Doing the thing I wanted to do because I wasn't.

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Speaker 2: Allowed to do so I didn't want to get yelled at. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: exactly right. The thing I want to say is I'm

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Speaker 2: just not going to invest in catchers early. So any

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Speaker 1: Yeah, for me, it's Kybert Ruiz, and not because I

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Speaker 2: The only difference with Kybert that's interesting is this has

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Speaker 1: Seven he's seven catchers, Yeah, I don't know, seven overall.

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Speaker 1: In the expert consensus rankings on Fantasy Pros, he's won

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Speaker 1: Drop off between our show and Contreras is about fifty

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Speaker 1: The downside is is he calling the right game, is he,

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Speaker 1: And you're right, he was always a good contact guy.

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Speaker 1: team Welsh?

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Speaker 2: You know you look, you talk about relative value, and

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Speaker 2: guys like are waiting on guys like Joey Vado or CJ.

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Speaker 2: Kron It doesn't make sense to me. So based on

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Speaker 1: You could basically copy and paste your argument for my

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Speaker 1: Because right now Mountcastle's at one to eleven overall, the

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Speaker 2: You know, It's funny. If you want position flexibility with

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Speaker 2: the bat x as Derek Carty's projection system. Projections are

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Speaker 2: dj lem Mayhew projected at ten homers. Well, with all

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Speaker 2: That's not in that range.

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Speaker 1: I mean, love the other guys who can get thirty

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Speaker 2: You literally could close your eyes and pick any other

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Speaker 2: I understand why you could buy on the bounce back,

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Speaker 1: In the bus category, all right, who's your starting second

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Speaker 2: All right? So I have loved this guy. And that's

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Speaker 2: instantly do it. Outside of like Nick Sinzel and tyler Naquins.

428
00:19:19,560 --> 00:19:22,640
Speaker 2: There's two of them, and Senzel I could name, Yeah,

429
00:19:22,640 --> 00:19:25,720
Speaker 2: I know, I'm maybe Aristidi is Akino. I can't even

430
00:19:25,720 --> 00:19:27,960
Speaker 2: think of it. Right now. But the point is, let's

431
00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:30,479
Speaker 2: go is this is kind of this is one of

432
00:19:30,480 --> 00:19:34,480
Speaker 2: the poor, poor supporting casts for a high dollar guy

433
00:19:34,840 --> 00:19:38,000
Speaker 2: Jonathan India does not come cheap. He comes inside of

434
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Speaker 2: the top seventy five. I think he's s eighty one

435
00:19:40,680 --> 00:19:44,359
Speaker 2: overall on the Fantasy pros consensus rankers right now. A

436
00:19:44,440 --> 00:19:46,439
Speaker 2: top one hundred costs for a guy that has no

437
00:19:46,600 --> 00:19:49,439
Speaker 2: supporting cast, I think is a little bit tough. And

438
00:19:49,480 --> 00:19:51,520
Speaker 2: again you come back to the guys that are coming later.

439
00:19:52,119 --> 00:19:54,880
Speaker 2: Ty France, I think is a cheaper option. Crona Worth

440
00:19:54,960 --> 00:19:58,680
Speaker 2: also qualifies there. Max Munsey is someone who I'm really

441
00:19:58,720 --> 00:20:00,480
Speaker 2: really trying to invest in because peop are still a

442
00:20:00,480 --> 00:20:03,000
Speaker 2: little bit scared off. This really just has to do

443
00:20:03,119 --> 00:20:06,000
Speaker 2: with the supporting cast of what you're gonna get from

444
00:20:06,240 --> 00:20:08,800
Speaker 2: a return basis. Could you still get twenty from India? Sure?

445
00:20:09,280 --> 00:20:12,000
Speaker 2: Who's around him? Is that truly going to dictate maybe

446
00:20:12,040 --> 00:20:14,760
Speaker 2: his power or his batting average? No, not necessarily, but

447
00:20:14,800 --> 00:20:17,240
Speaker 2: it can dictate his run support, and it can dictate

448
00:20:17,280 --> 00:20:19,800
Speaker 2: the guys that are on base for RBI, and maybe

449
00:20:19,800 --> 00:20:23,159
Speaker 2: he starts getting attacked a little bit more offensively by pitchers.

450
00:20:23,160 --> 00:20:25,040
Speaker 2: So I'm a little bit worried about the high cost.

451
00:20:25,080 --> 00:20:26,920
Speaker 2: I've seen him go as high as like the sixties

452
00:20:26,920 --> 00:20:29,760
Speaker 2: and stuff, so I think based on cost, I'm gonna

453
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Speaker 2: pick Jonathan India. But that one it hurts a little bit.

454
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Speaker 1: I hate hate it as well, just the way you did,

455
00:20:36,640 --> 00:20:38,320
Speaker 1: because I like India Alat as a player. But you

456
00:20:38,359 --> 00:20:40,600
Speaker 1: make a really good point. Some of the other names

457
00:20:40,640 --> 00:20:44,360
Speaker 1: out there, just so you know, Showgawakayama still around, Jake Braley,

458
00:20:44,640 --> 00:20:49,560
Speaker 1: Tyler Naquin, Nixon, Zell, Jake Bowers, Albert elmra arist Deazakino,

459
00:20:49,720 --> 00:20:54,240
Speaker 1: your boy, Al Farmer, Kyle Farmer shortstop right now, Donovan Solano,

460
00:20:54,480 --> 00:20:57,359
Speaker 1: Estrubo Cabreer. Yeah, I mean, you're right, it's not a

461
00:20:57,359 --> 00:20:59,920
Speaker 1: good lineup. You gotta hope that Mike Mustakas I guess

462
00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:02,560
Speaker 1: at some point him and Joey Vado is like about it.

463
00:21:02,920 --> 00:21:05,280
Speaker 2: But you know, another great point, another one I would

464
00:21:05,280 --> 00:21:07,119
Speaker 2: have thrown in here and almost did, was like Katell.

465
00:21:07,240 --> 00:21:11,000
Speaker 2: You know, Katl Marte is in that range with Diamondbacks

466
00:21:11,080 --> 00:21:14,040
Speaker 2: or worse at this point. The only difference with Katel

467
00:21:14,720 --> 00:21:17,160
Speaker 2: is that no doubt he's going to get traded during

468
00:21:17,160 --> 00:21:19,159
Speaker 2: the season. Diamondbacks got to move off of him, and

469
00:21:19,160 --> 00:21:22,160
Speaker 2: if he gets traded to you know, any really good team,

470
00:21:22,200 --> 00:21:24,400
Speaker 2: a team like the Yankees or something like that, then

471
00:21:24,400 --> 00:21:27,520
Speaker 2: you're going to be exponentially better. But kaateel is I mean,

472
00:21:27,560 --> 00:21:29,240
Speaker 2: the hard hit is through the roof, if he can

473
00:21:29,280 --> 00:21:31,800
Speaker 2: really start going. He's a high, high contact guy. He

474
00:21:31,800 --> 00:21:34,600
Speaker 2: doesn't steal though, which kind of sucks. But both of

475
00:21:34,600 --> 00:21:37,359
Speaker 2: those guys costs a high dollar. But there is zero

476
00:21:38,119 --> 00:21:41,880
Speaker 2: point zero chance that Jonathan India gets moved to another team.

477
00:21:42,400 --> 00:21:45,680
Speaker 2: Katell definitely will during season. So I'm just the cost

478
00:21:45,720 --> 00:21:47,280
Speaker 2: that you got to pay at second base when there's

479
00:21:47,280 --> 00:21:50,480
Speaker 2: a decent amount of good options. Josel Twove just drops

480
00:21:50,480 --> 00:21:54,160
Speaker 2: like crazy. I think based on that, I can dictate

481
00:21:54,280 --> 00:21:56,600
Speaker 2: him from a draft perspective as a bus and I

482
00:21:56,640 --> 00:21:59,760
Speaker 2: gotta say, as a preamble here I probably would have

483
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Speaker 2: picked had you not.

484
00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:04,919
Speaker 1: Well, I'll pick I'll I'll pick it for you. How's that?

485
00:22:05,040 --> 00:22:09,520
Speaker 1: Jazz Chisholm, who going one pick ahead. Basically in terms

486
00:22:09,520 --> 00:22:12,240
Speaker 1: of what number he is, he's a second basement number eleven.

487
00:22:12,720 --> 00:22:16,280
Speaker 1: India is twelve. He's going at pick number eighty nine.

488
00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:18,440
Speaker 1: India is going at ninety eight, So a few picks

489
00:22:18,440 --> 00:22:20,800
Speaker 1: in between them, but you know, Jazzchism for me, once again,

490
00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:23,520
Speaker 1: he's being drafted because you know, he's a guy that

491
00:22:23,800 --> 00:22:26,119
Speaker 1: steals bases. I understand he was hitting at the top

492
00:22:26,160 --> 00:22:27,679
Speaker 1: of the order this weekend. I get that. I know

493
00:22:27,680 --> 00:22:30,040
Speaker 1: if people get really jazzed about that, and no pun intended,

494
00:22:30,080 --> 00:22:32,960
Speaker 1: but they do, and they should. But there's also a

495
00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:36,440
Speaker 1: huge downside. And I'm looking at second base and I'm

496
00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:38,680
Speaker 1: looking at after that. There's guys like Tommy Edmond. There's

497
00:22:38,720 --> 00:22:40,480
Speaker 1: cronin Worth, who's gonna play a whole lot more with

498
00:22:40,560 --> 00:22:43,359
Speaker 1: Tattise Hurt. As you said, there's Ty Francis, Chris Taylor.

499
00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:46,080
Speaker 1: I love Brandon Rodgers late. I mean he's going at

500
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Speaker 1: pick one point eighty, so almost one hundred picks after

501
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Speaker 1: Jazz Chishlm. There's a player that I like equally to

502
00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:53,600
Speaker 1: Jazz Chism in terms of what can he do for

503
00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:55,879
Speaker 1: my fantasy team overall. And I know Chishom helps you

504
00:22:55,960 --> 00:22:57,920
Speaker 1: so much with someone basses, but if he struggles to

505
00:22:57,920 --> 00:23:00,359
Speaker 1: get on basse and struggles to make contact gets dropped

506
00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:02,400
Speaker 1: in the order right away. He's a guy that could

507
00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:04,959
Speaker 1: get sent down again. So there's a lot of issues there.

508
00:23:05,040 --> 00:23:06,439
Speaker 1: It's a lot more risk, and it's just too much

509
00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:09,800
Speaker 1: risk for me personally. In rotal league. I get it,

510
00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:13,199
Speaker 1: I understand those risks, but for me, I'd rather just

511
00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:15,120
Speaker 1: wait a little bit more for a guy like Rogers.

512
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529
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Speaker 1: talk about third base here. Well, shed give me a

530
00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:09,560
Speaker 1: player for you at third base that makes that all

531
00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:10,160
Speaker 1: bust team.

532
00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:14,040
Speaker 2: Ah man, Okay, I actually think this one might be

533
00:24:14,119 --> 00:24:16,719
Speaker 2: the toughest, and I think it's weird because this is

534
00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:19,359
Speaker 2: the most garbage position of all of these. Like, you

535
00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:22,320
Speaker 2: can really fall off the table pretty quick from the

536
00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:25,760
Speaker 2: elite guys, and the middle doesn't feel quite as good.

537
00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:28,040
Speaker 2: And you know, there's some guys on the back end

538
00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:30,560
Speaker 2: that you can maybe maybe set your sights on. And

539
00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:32,840
Speaker 2: so here here's ironic. This is gonna be funny. So

540
00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:35,679
Speaker 2: in teut this weekend completely different thing. It's an auction

541
00:24:35,840 --> 00:24:39,800
Speaker 2: points league, so it's a different form formatical type of thing.

542
00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:42,199
Speaker 2: In roster construction of what you're doing. I went very

543
00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:45,080
Speaker 2: heavy pitching, and I went studs and scrubs. I went

544
00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:47,520
Speaker 2: very very heavy hitting with lots of pitching. So I

545
00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:50,160
Speaker 2: had to piece together a whole bunch of these kind

546
00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:52,680
Speaker 2: of black you know, shortstops and third basements. And I

547
00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:55,240
Speaker 2: ended up getting Almoncotta for two dollars. And you all,

548
00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:59,399
Speaker 2: Mancatta is my pick here, and I'm not happy with it.

549
00:24:59,800 --> 00:25:02,600
Speaker 2: But the psychology is one of the reasons why I

550
00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:04,760
Speaker 2: think he's kind of in this bus territory. I wanted

551
00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:08,600
Speaker 2: literally everybody else, But when you look at third base,

552
00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:11,040
Speaker 2: you go through and you go, okay, I want Dever's

553
00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:13,000
Speaker 2: or Machado or Riley. Then you don't get it, and

554
00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:15,400
Speaker 2: then of course you want Chris Bryant now or Aeronato,

555
00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:17,680
Speaker 2: and then it really starts to kind of fall off.

556
00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:20,359
Speaker 2: And then if you're that back end guy, you go, okay,

557
00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:22,760
Speaker 2: I'm gonna I'm gonna sit back and I'm gonna get

558
00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:25,600
Speaker 2: this guy or I'm gonna get that guy, and everybody

559
00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:29,240
Speaker 2: is still paying for the return of Yoan Mancata. The

560
00:25:29,359 --> 00:25:33,280
Speaker 2: problem is he's almost becoming the DJ Lemayhew of this position.

561
00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:36,920
Speaker 2: There's not any upside I know. In Fantasy Pros right now,

562
00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:40,679
Speaker 2: it lists Justin Turner right above. They're right next to

563
00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:42,639
Speaker 2: each other, But in a lot of other platforms and

564
00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:46,159
Speaker 2: drafting platforms, Justin Turner is way lower than Mankada, and

565
00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:48,840
Speaker 2: Justin Turner is a better batting average option, a better

566
00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:52,280
Speaker 2: RBI option, a better home run option, and Moncatta doesn't

567
00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:56,320
Speaker 2: steal anymore. He's projected under twenty homers for the year,

568
00:25:57,040 --> 00:25:59,960
Speaker 2: nothing else significant. He's not even a one category play

569
00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:02,520
Speaker 2: at this point, and in many instances he has to

570
00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:05,240
Speaker 2: be a starter. My situation was a little bit different

571
00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:06,960
Speaker 2: because it was auction and I had to get it

572
00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:11,280
Speaker 2: under four dollars third baseman. But in drafting, don't put

573
00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:13,440
Speaker 2: yourself in the hopes of, oh, I can still get

574
00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:16,320
Speaker 2: Moncatta because of the name value. I would rather have

575
00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:19,800
Speaker 2: Josh Donaldson, who is more than twenty picks lower on

576
00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:21,880
Speaker 2: the overall than him. I would rather have the Key,

577
00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:25,639
Speaker 2: Brian Hayes, Ryan McMahon in Colorado, Luis Orris, I literally

578
00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:28,840
Speaker 2: would have picked any of these players over Moncatta. I

579
00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:32,720
Speaker 2: just think we're about done with Moncatta as a top

580
00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:36,080
Speaker 2: two hundred player, and if you're considering, which a lot

581
00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:38,200
Speaker 2: of rankers are still think he's a bust.

582
00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:41,359
Speaker 1: I completely agree with Moncatta. And I feel like, also,

583
00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:46,280
Speaker 1: there's this there's this prospect luster that always kind of

584
00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:50,639
Speaker 1: sticks with certain guys longer than it should do. You

585
00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:52,280
Speaker 1: get that with Moncatta. I feel like he's one of

586
00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:54,440
Speaker 1: those guys where, yeah, he's he had so much hype

587
00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:57,080
Speaker 1: younger on that he keep waiting and he's getting second

588
00:26:57,160 --> 00:26:59,280
Speaker 1: chances and third chances and four chances, and then he

589
00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:00,920
Speaker 1: you know, he comes out the spring, I want to

590
00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:03,360
Speaker 1: steal more bases, and the next thing, you know, everybody's

591
00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:05,439
Speaker 1: buying back in because of those words. And I think

592
00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:06,439
Speaker 1: that's always frustrating. One.

593
00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:09,520
Speaker 2: I mean, and listen, the guy has over five hundred

594
00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:12,439
Speaker 2: total career games, and he has twenty eight career stolen bases.

595
00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:16,200
Speaker 2: Twenty eight career stolen bases. He stole ten in twenty nineteen,

596
00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:20,280
Speaker 2: but between the pandemic year and last year he stole three.

597
00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:23,480
Speaker 2: He also has twenty combined homers in twenty twenty and

598
00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:26,919
Speaker 2: twenty twenty one, and he's had one twenty home run season. Listen,

599
00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:29,200
Speaker 2: it's it's all relative. We come back to it. Has

600
00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:32,200
Speaker 2: he done positive things, Yes, he's lowered his strikeout rate,

601
00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:35,399
Speaker 2: he's upped his walk rate. He's had a two sixty

602
00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:37,679
Speaker 2: three batting average, which was second best of his career.

603
00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:41,359
Speaker 2: He's just transforming as a player. The problem is is

604
00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:45,399
Speaker 2: it's just not like a target that you want for

605
00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:48,240
Speaker 2: fantasy and there are just better options.

606
00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:51,439
Speaker 1: Like in a salary cap draft, that's fine, Like if

607
00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:52,800
Speaker 1: you have to end up with him for four bucks

608
00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:54,480
Speaker 1: at the sour cap. You can absolutely live with that.

609
00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:56,120
Speaker 2: I got him for two. I got them for two,

610
00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:59,040
Speaker 2: so like that's a great deal. I'm for two bucks.

611
00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:03,000
Speaker 2: But the problem is when Justin Turner or Josh Donaldson

612
00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:05,520
Speaker 2: or Ty Franz or Ryan mcmahoners still on the board,

613
00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:08,280
Speaker 2: he shouldn't be a priority. Regardless of how great that

614
00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:10,840
Speaker 2: lineup is, Moncott is probably gonna, what's my kind of

615
00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:12,160
Speaker 2: get a hit? I don't even know rost the resource

616
00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:14,679
Speaker 2: has him out right now seven. I mean, there's no

617
00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:17,560
Speaker 2: way that Moncott is going to hit above Robert and

618
00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:20,240
Speaker 2: there's and you've got Aloy, You've got a list of

619
00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:22,720
Speaker 2: guys I can't imagine even if he was hitting two.

620
00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:25,000
Speaker 2: He's just not a big power guy. And he hasn't

621
00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:28,280
Speaker 2: shown us the reason why we would take him over

622
00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:30,560
Speaker 2: a lot of these other guys. Justin Turner all day,

623
00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:31,400
Speaker 2: every day.

624
00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:34,399
Speaker 1: For me, all right, my guy at third base at

625
00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:36,359
Speaker 1: the hot corner is gonna be Anthony Rendon. And I

626
00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:38,920
Speaker 1: know this is kind of like shooting fish in a barrel.

627
00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:41,560
Speaker 1: But while she's still a top one hundred player, basically

628
00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:45,120
Speaker 1: like right now in ECR, he's number ninety six. He

629
00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:47,520
Speaker 1: is the tenth third baseman off the board. He's one

630
00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:51,000
Speaker 1: O two overall in the consensus ADP. And when I

631
00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:53,280
Speaker 1: look at Anthony undone, this is the point in time

632
00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:56,120
Speaker 1: of his career where injuries should start, where he should

633
00:28:56,240 --> 00:28:58,480
Speaker 1: physically start breaking down. And I know he had that

634
00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:00,680
Speaker 1: really good window there for a couple years in Washington

635
00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:02,960
Speaker 1: where he started to really turn around and he was

636
00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:05,000
Speaker 1: playing one hundred, you know, one hundred and forty games

637
00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:08,320
Speaker 1: under fifty games, that's what you want. And then last

638
00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:10,440
Speaker 1: year it all came crashing down again, and it just

639
00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:12,920
Speaker 1: scares the heck out of me, and I'm willing to

640
00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:15,840
Speaker 1: add a bigger discount take a shot on Rendon, Like

641
00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:17,600
Speaker 1: if he slips below this one hundred into the one

642
00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:19,960
Speaker 1: twenties or one thirties, That's why I start to go, Okay,

643
00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:22,040
Speaker 1: you know what other people in this draft are afraid.

644
00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:25,000
Speaker 1: I think I'd rather take a shot on Rendon than Mancata.

645
00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:27,360
Speaker 1: But again, there's a forty pick difference between the two

646
00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:30,440
Speaker 1: of them, and I just feel like there's this this

647
00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:33,600
Speaker 1: big name brand value that's attached to him. We just

648
00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:36,160
Speaker 1: talked about Wellcatta having the prospect thing attached to him,

649
00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:38,200
Speaker 1: where Rendon has that all star label attached to him,

650
00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:40,640
Speaker 1: and I just wonder, look where we are right now.

651
00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:43,480
Speaker 1: You know, after Chris Brian goes, Anthony Rendon's the next guy.

652
00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:46,160
Speaker 1: And I think that drop off between Brian and Rendon

653
00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:48,680
Speaker 1: is considerable. And it's only twenty five picks, but it

654
00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:51,400
Speaker 1: feels like way more to me because if Anthony Rendon

655
00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:53,680
Speaker 1: doesn't play significant period of time, if you would plays

656
00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:56,480
Speaker 1: fifty games again, just crushes you. And I just I

657
00:29:56,560 --> 00:29:58,560
Speaker 1: want more of a discount on him. How do you

658
00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:00,720
Speaker 1: feel about Frendon? I'm just a curiosity, like do you

659
00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:02,200
Speaker 1: look at him as a value or another guy you

660
00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:03,240
Speaker 1: just don't want to touch? No.

661
00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:05,040
Speaker 2: See, that's kind of interesting because I kind of like

662
00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:08,480
Speaker 2: Rendon because I think that the injury recently is holding

663
00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:10,240
Speaker 2: him back and this is probably one of the best

664
00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:14,400
Speaker 2: costs you can get at him. But at the same time,

665
00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:17,520
Speaker 2: here's the problem with him is he is the last

666
00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:20,719
Speaker 2: great hope of your third base build.

667
00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:22,640
Speaker 1: So if you miss, that's why he's right there at

668
00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:23,120
Speaker 1: one hundred.

669
00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:26,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, And that's so like I'm a little indifferent about him.

670
00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:29,280
Speaker 2: I definitely could see myself targeting him. I'll tell you

671
00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:32,000
Speaker 2: this though, I'm more than likely going to look at

672
00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:33,920
Speaker 2: that point, if I didn't like, I want Bryant, like

673
00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:35,680
Speaker 2: Chris Bryant's the guy that I want. If I didn't

674
00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:38,600
Speaker 2: get like a Machado, Bryant's probably that last, like really

675
00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:40,440
Speaker 2: big target. And if I didn't get him, I could

676
00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:42,880
Speaker 2: see myself coming down to Rendon and talking myself out

677
00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:45,680
Speaker 2: and saying, well, I will take this closer or this

678
00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:48,440
Speaker 2: starting pitcher that's here, and I'll go get Josh Donaldson

679
00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:51,120
Speaker 2: later and I'll go for that big power, and I

680
00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:53,280
Speaker 2: could talk myself out of him. But I do think

681
00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:58,160
Speaker 2: Rendon like, Okay, here's this Rendon at ninety six or

682
00:30:58,280 --> 00:31:02,320
Speaker 2: Mancata at one thirty six. Overall, that's where they are

683
00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:06,200
Speaker 2: in Fantasy pros right now. Probably still yeah, I would

684
00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:07,240
Speaker 2: go Renton as well.

685
00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:09,640
Speaker 1: And I don't feel great about either of them. But

686
00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:11,440
Speaker 1: third base is that one spot where you're going to

687
00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:13,800
Speaker 1: have to in some drafts just take a shot.

688
00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:15,920
Speaker 2: And that's why he's getting pushed up. By the way.

689
00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:18,480
Speaker 2: I don't think he's getting pushed up because everyone's like, oh, hey,

690
00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:21,440
Speaker 2: Rendon's gonna hit three hundred with thirty plus homers. It's like, no,

691
00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:24,240
Speaker 2: we're moving him up because oh my God, third base

692
00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:26,520
Speaker 2: falls off of a cliff, and you've got to get

693
00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:29,120
Speaker 2: one otherwise you will be stuck with you on Manka.

694
00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:31,120
Speaker 1: And you know what, id's to take one of these

695
00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:33,840
Speaker 1: two guys, Like if I take Rendon or Mancata, I'm

696
00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:38,480
Speaker 1: looking later at getting an Escobar, Spencer, Torklsen, somebody else

697
00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:40,959
Speaker 1: that qualifies there that I think you know is going

698
00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:42,600
Speaker 1: to play a fair amount that I think I feel

699
00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:44,560
Speaker 1: pretty comfortable with because they might have to be in

700
00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:45,480
Speaker 1: my lineup a lot.

701
00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:47,880
Speaker 2: I'll do you one better. Like if I were going

702
00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:49,720
Speaker 2: really really late, I might go like Judo Orchell or

703
00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:51,360
Speaker 2: something now with Minnesota, but I think.

704
00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:52,440
Speaker 1: You're better guy.

705
00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:54,280
Speaker 2: Not enough Bat, I'm not really either, but like that

706
00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:56,400
Speaker 2: would just be one of those guys I if I home,

707
00:31:56,880 --> 00:31:59,360
Speaker 2: if well, see, okay, you're you're in an area that

708
00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:01,880
Speaker 2: I understand. I actually took Bowman Towder as well. But

709
00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:04,480
Speaker 2: if I am going to take one of those guys,

710
00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:09,120
Speaker 2: I actually would rather try to get a Donaldson or

711
00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:11,480
Speaker 2: a Turner. Those those guys I'm telling that you should

712
00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:13,800
Speaker 2: wait to fall back on. Why don't you tag one

713
00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:16,160
Speaker 2: of those guys with it and just cover yourself and

714
00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:19,600
Speaker 2: you can corner infield Donaldson or Turner or Ryan McMahon

715
00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:21,480
Speaker 2: or something like that. But to your point, if you

716
00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:23,960
Speaker 2: had to go a little bit later, I would probably

717
00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:26,560
Speaker 2: prefer less of a risk. If you were to take

718
00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:29,800
Speaker 2: a rindome like Bom is much more of a risk.

719
00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:32,680
Speaker 2: Like I'm looking down at you. You know who's a dude, Avalongoria.

720
00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:36,080
Speaker 2: I've Longoria was like a top fifty player for a

721
00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:38,040
Speaker 2: month and a half before he got hurt. I would

722
00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:40,160
Speaker 2: rather tag a Longoria or something like that.

723
00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:42,840
Speaker 1: All Right, this one's gonna set a lot of people.

724
00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:46,560
Speaker 1: Let's do shortstop here because there's some big names of shortstop.

725
00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:48,720
Speaker 1: It's one of the deeper positions this year. So while

726
00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:50,960
Speaker 1: she was the shortstop the major All Bust team.

727
00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:52,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, I didn't. I don't like doing it because I've

728
00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:54,640
Speaker 2: actually defended this guy. But I'm going to go with

729
00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:59,040
Speaker 2: new destination Corey Seeger. First off, you do have I

730
00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:01,360
Speaker 2: think I feel like we talked about this on an episode.

731
00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:04,280
Speaker 2: I'm just forgetting maybe it was Frank when we had

732
00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:07,360
Speaker 2: Frank Gon. You do have a tendency for guys moving

733
00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:09,280
Speaker 2: to new places to have a little bit of an

734
00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:13,400
Speaker 2: adjustment period and struggle. Corey Seeger has missed all the games.

735
00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:16,760
Speaker 2: I think he's played one hundred and forty games twice

736
00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:20,719
Speaker 2: in his In his career twenty sixteen and seventeen, he

737
00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:24,360
Speaker 2: has played one hundred games once. Since twenty eighteen. He

738
00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:28,720
Speaker 2: has not hit twenty homers. Since twenty seventeen. He has

739
00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:33,360
Speaker 2: a total of twelve career stolen bases, with three of

740
00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:37,440
Speaker 2: those coming over the last three years. And listen, he

741
00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:39,440
Speaker 2: changed the profile of who he was. He was one

742
00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:41,400
Speaker 2: of the big hard hit guys, which was awesome. You

743
00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:43,520
Speaker 2: would start seeing if you would go to a baseball savant,

744
00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:46,200
Speaker 2: you would see on Max ev Corey Seeker has been

745
00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:50,280
Speaker 2: there in the top ten, but it hasn't resulted in

746
00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:53,600
Speaker 2: massive results due to injury as well. So here's my problem.

747
00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:56,760
Speaker 2: You've got a shortstop that's going inside almost almost the

748
00:33:56,800 --> 00:33:59,160
Speaker 2: top fifty, right outside the top fifty, he does not

749
00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:02,320
Speaker 2: steal bases. Who has a track record of being injured

750
00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:05,760
Speaker 2: going to a team that's okay, they got Marcus Simi

751
00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:07,719
Speaker 2: and they don't have a bunch of other great options,

752
00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:11,560
Speaker 2: and of all of those things, it is the deepest

753
00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:14,640
Speaker 2: position of all of them. You can go and get

754
00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:20,160
Speaker 2: Willia Domis or Dansby Swanson and get probably ninety five

755
00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:23,640
Speaker 2: percent of the production. You can get Jorge Polonco, you

756
00:34:23,680 --> 00:34:26,920
Speaker 2: can get Brandon Crawford really late. There's so many guys.

757
00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:29,680
Speaker 2: Almd Rosario, who I keep talking about as kind of

758
00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:32,440
Speaker 2: like a breakout guy. He is a shortstop that you

759
00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:35,080
Speaker 2: can get. You can get more stolen bases in other spots,

760
00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:38,040
Speaker 2: you can build power in other directions. I just don't

761
00:34:38,080 --> 00:34:41,440
Speaker 2: think there's enough to justify for Corey Seeger to be

762
00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:44,239
Speaker 2: going off at like what is he at shortstop on

763
00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:45,640
Speaker 2: Fantasy pros right now?

764
00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:48,120
Speaker 1: He ors right now is the tenth shortstop. He is

765
00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:49,759
Speaker 1: number sixty five overall.

766
00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:52,560
Speaker 2: But see think about that, there are ten short stops

767
00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:55,080
Speaker 2: and he's sixty five overall, and I actually see I'm

768
00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:57,200
Speaker 2: looking I might be looking something tiny bit different. It's

769
00:34:57,200 --> 00:35:00,160
Speaker 2: got him at the ninth shortstop at fifty eight over

770
00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:03,720
Speaker 2: You've got Korea in Minnesota after him. You've got Mandesy

771
00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:06,520
Speaker 2: on the stolen bases. That's the Oh, I'm not even

772
00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:07,919
Speaker 2: looking at the overall right now.

773
00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:10,960
Speaker 1: But yeah, there's just a JDP over there. That's wrong.

774
00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:14,600
Speaker 2: Bobby Witt. You've got Bobby one oars as well. So

775
00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:19,200
Speaker 2: I just don't think justifying that high cost is going

776
00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:20,600
Speaker 2: to pay off, and I think a lot of people

777
00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:23,839
Speaker 2: are going to feel very bustish if he gets up

778
00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:26,200
Speaker 2: with you know, twenty something Homers plays one hundred and

779
00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:28,680
Speaker 2: fifteen games and you spent a top sixty pick on.

780
00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:32,879
Speaker 1: Him, Well, I'm gonna go one more shortstop deeper than well,

781
00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:35,319
Speaker 1: just one though, because that's the same range I think

782
00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:37,480
Speaker 1: is very dangerous. So he took the tenth guy in

783
00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:40,560
Speaker 1: Corey Seeger, I'm gonna take the eleventh guy in Havire Bayaz,

784
00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:43,000
Speaker 1: same kind of deal. You know, when you have these

785
00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:45,799
Speaker 1: guys with big names who signed big contracts, they get

786
00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:47,799
Speaker 1: a lot of publicity. And I'm not saying Howvier Bias

787
00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:50,600
Speaker 1: hasn't been a good player recently. He Has's no doubt

788
00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:52,800
Speaker 1: about that. You love the eighteen stolen bases, that's his

789
00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:55,960
Speaker 1: highest marks in twenty eighteen, when he stole twenty one.

790
00:35:56,040 --> 00:35:58,640
Speaker 1: Typically he's more around that eleven or twelve range, So

791
00:35:58,719 --> 00:36:00,759
Speaker 1: this was a big bump for him. He had two

792
00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:02,960
Speaker 1: sixty five last year, pretty good. I mean, he's that

793
00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:04,520
Speaker 1: guy who's got a lot of swing and missing and

794
00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:06,480
Speaker 1: we all know that there's a lot of you know,

795
00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:10,680
Speaker 1: the true outcomes in Hobby or Baiaz that we understand

796
00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:12,960
Speaker 1: and we kind of, you know, we get and if

797
00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:14,400
Speaker 1: you look last year, you know he played for the

798
00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:16,879
Speaker 1: Mets and the Cups, two offenses that certainly struggled at times.

799
00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:18,880
Speaker 1: He had a run scored in eighty seven RBI, hit

800
00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:21,440
Speaker 1: thirty one home runs. He's moving to a Tiger team

801
00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:24,200
Speaker 1: that's still in transition. They have some good young talent coming,

802
00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:26,280
Speaker 1: the Greens and the Torco Sen's of the world are coming,

803
00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:28,200
Speaker 1: but we don't know what they're gonna do when they

804
00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:30,960
Speaker 1: get there and when they're gonna get there specifically, so

805
00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:33,000
Speaker 1: bias to me, for the same reasons that Welsh is

806
00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:36,080
Speaker 1: concerned with Seeger, I'd rather have Polanco a little cheaper,

807
00:36:36,120 --> 00:36:39,320
Speaker 1: maybe take a shot on Korea, Bobby witt Dan's responsor

808
00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:41,680
Speaker 1: all those guys. To me, I'm looking at Hobby Bayaz.

809
00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:45,200
Speaker 1: Is that transition into a different place, transition to learning

810
00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:47,920
Speaker 1: some new pictures in the American League Central And to me,

811
00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:50,000
Speaker 1: it's just not a good investment. I don't like where

812
00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:52,319
Speaker 1: he's at sixty nine. Overall, I'd rather wait ten more

813
00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:55,840
Speaker 1: picks and take quar Hee Polonko. Your thoughts on Bayaz yeah.

814
00:36:55,760 --> 00:36:57,560
Speaker 2: I mean I think it kind of sits in the

815
00:36:57,600 --> 00:36:59,799
Speaker 2: same area. I think I'd probably rather have bias than

816
00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:02,160
Speaker 2: at this point, because the one thing you are getting

817
00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:04,319
Speaker 2: is at least you're getting the stolen bases. But I

818
00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:05,800
Speaker 2: think it's kind of a similar thing, like there's.

819
00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:07,560
Speaker 1: Not lot eighteen or you're getting ten.

820
00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:11,759
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, well I think bias, I think, but

821
00:37:11,800 --> 00:37:14,400
Speaker 2: Bias has got that upside of like twenty stolen bases,

822
00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:17,640
Speaker 2: where Secer has the upside of two. Like that's it. So,

823
00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:19,399
Speaker 2: but I don't really want either one of these guys.

824
00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:21,680
Speaker 2: I think they both fall in. You've got a new destination,

825
00:37:21,800 --> 00:37:26,040
Speaker 2: You've got an okay lineup that's surrounded by bias. He's

826
00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:29,439
Speaker 2: also very finicky. You know, I've talked to you mentioned

827
00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:34,000
Speaker 2: jazz earlier. Jazz is the poor man's hobby bias where

828
00:37:34,040 --> 00:37:36,520
Speaker 2: they're very, very streaky, And I think you gotta be

829
00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:38,239
Speaker 2: careful too about these streetcats. Maybe the one thing that

830
00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:41,000
Speaker 2: Corey Seeger has when he's actually playing, he's relatively consistent.

831
00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:43,120
Speaker 2: You could have a month where Hobby Baias hits a

832
00:37:43,160 --> 00:37:46,399
Speaker 2: buck eighty nine, no homers and maybe one stolen base,

833
00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:48,400
Speaker 2: and then you can have a month where he hits

834
00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:51,560
Speaker 2: three ten with six homers and seven stolen bases. I

835
00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:54,080
Speaker 2: mean he can pop off. Those are fun sometimes, but

836
00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:57,120
Speaker 2: they're also the volatility really can screw with your team,

837
00:37:57,200 --> 00:37:59,319
Speaker 2: especially if you're playing head to head, you're playing roto

838
00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:01,640
Speaker 2: you can kind ofge through it a little bit. Yeah,

839
00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:04,239
Speaker 2: I agree with you. I'm just I'm a little indifferent.

840
00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:05,919
Speaker 2: I don't know if I would target him as a bust.

841
00:38:05,960 --> 00:38:07,799
Speaker 2: But the problem is, if you were to look down

842
00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:11,680
Speaker 2: the shortstops, there's probably three or four really that you

843
00:38:11,719 --> 00:38:13,919
Speaker 2: could pinpoint, and I think both of those guys are them.

844
00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:17,400
Speaker 2: I think Avey baia Is with his volatility, Corey Seeger

845
00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:20,320
Speaker 2: with you know, injuries and lack of stolen bases. You

846
00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:22,560
Speaker 2: probably throw Jazz in there as well. There's not a

847
00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:23,760
Speaker 2: lot of guys were.

848
00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:26,120
Speaker 1: A big contract, the burden of that and living up

849
00:38:26,160 --> 00:38:28,320
Speaker 1: to that, the new city, the new town, the new adjustment.

850
00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:30,160
Speaker 1: There is a lot. It's very rare we get a

851
00:38:30,160 --> 00:38:32,080
Speaker 1: guy that just out of the gate, just just you know,

852
00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:35,200
Speaker 1: gangbusters for a new team after a huge contract. Typically

853
00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:37,160
Speaker 1: even Bryce Harper a couple of years ago, right, it

854
00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:39,080
Speaker 1: was a little slow star. People were, you know, bitching

855
00:38:39,120 --> 00:38:41,000
Speaker 1: and moaning about that next thing. You know, Bryce Harper

856
00:38:41,080 --> 00:38:42,680
Speaker 1: is winning MVPs a year later, So what are you

857
00:38:42,680 --> 00:38:45,080
Speaker 1: gonna do? All right, let's go to the outfield here,

858
00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:48,200
Speaker 1: another fun one. So who is your all bust outfielder?

859
00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:52,240
Speaker 2: Well, I mean this might have been even harder than shortstops,

860
00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:53,280
Speaker 2: and I just want.

861
00:38:53,160 --> 00:38:56,120
Speaker 1: To I feel like we're gonna get mad at each other. Yeah, well,

862
00:38:56,160 --> 00:38:57,920
Speaker 1: I'm mad at yours, and I know you're gonna be

863
00:38:57,920 --> 00:38:58,680
Speaker 1: mad at mine.

864
00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:02,759
Speaker 2: Joe. Joe is trying to gaslight me with his He's

865
00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:08,000
Speaker 2: an absolute gas light mine. Mine is it's kind of

866
00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:10,960
Speaker 2: about the paying for last year thing. That's It's exactly

867
00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:15,719
Speaker 2: what it is. It's about paying last year's stats for

868
00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:18,600
Speaker 2: this year. Have a burger today tomorrow. What was that?

869
00:39:18,719 --> 00:39:20,120
Speaker 2: Remember the i'll pay.

870
00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:22,440
Speaker 1: You for I'll gladly pay you tuesday, but I have.

871
00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:27,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's how I kind of feel about reference on

872
00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:29,719
Speaker 2: the show. I mean, no, no, that it was. It

873
00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:31,800
Speaker 2: wasn't Popeye, it was Oh.

874
00:39:31,640 --> 00:39:34,640
Speaker 1: Gosh, that's I doesn't say it's the the other guy

875
00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:37,799
Speaker 1: to not Blueto. It's the other guy with the hat,

876
00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:38,920
Speaker 1: the chibby guy. I don't know.

877
00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:42,000
Speaker 2: Wait, hold on, I just found it. It was wimpy.

878
00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:44,239
Speaker 2: It was wimpy. We glad they pay you Tuesday for

879
00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:47,200
Speaker 2: a hamburger today. It was wimpy with the show.

880
00:39:47,239 --> 00:39:48,120
Speaker 1: I know what I'm talking about.

881
00:39:48,320 --> 00:39:49,080
Speaker 2: Oh was it really?

882
00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:50,000
Speaker 1: Yeah?

883
00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:51,960
Speaker 2: I mean you're older than me. You're older than me.

884
00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:55,440
Speaker 2: I'm very young. I have very young references.

885
00:39:55,680 --> 00:39:57,759
Speaker 1: That's right. We used to play with Kalidis Gopes and

886
00:39:57,840 --> 00:40:02,080
Speaker 1: kick cans down the street. It was fun to go

887
00:40:02,080 --> 00:40:02,839
Speaker 1: to the baseball game.

888
00:40:03,320 --> 00:40:06,480
Speaker 2: Mitch Haniger, maybe a little twilight of his career, thirty

889
00:40:06,560 --> 00:40:10,879
Speaker 2: years old, hit thirty nine homers for the Mariners. Before that,

890
00:40:11,520 --> 00:40:14,439
Speaker 2: he had only one. Actually, I guess he in two

891
00:40:14,480 --> 00:40:16,879
Speaker 2: seasons he had combined, I had forty one homers between

892
00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:20,120
Speaker 2: twenty nineteen and twenty eighteen. Didn't play in twenty twenty.

893
00:40:20,440 --> 00:40:24,239
Speaker 2: He lowered a strikeout rate a little bit Lord's walk rate.

894
00:40:24,320 --> 00:40:26,600
Speaker 2: His ISO was about on target. He just made better

895
00:40:26,640 --> 00:40:30,160
Speaker 2: contact than the ball did fly. But of the five

896
00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:34,560
Speaker 2: career seasons he's played, this is absolutely the outlier. And

897
00:40:35,840 --> 00:40:38,480
Speaker 2: to be fair, it's not like CJ. M. Cedric Mullins,

898
00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:40,799
Speaker 2: where you're paying like top thirty five overall for a

899
00:40:40,840 --> 00:40:44,200
Speaker 2: guy that had just an absolute breakout. You are paying

900
00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:47,680
Speaker 2: right inside the top one hundred, but you're still paying

901
00:40:47,719 --> 00:40:51,759
Speaker 2: a top one hundred cost on an outfielder whom I

902
00:40:51,760 --> 00:40:54,360
Speaker 2: think is around a lot of other guys that I

903
00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:57,080
Speaker 2: would rather put my target in one position above on

904
00:40:57,120 --> 00:41:00,080
Speaker 2: the Fantasy pros ADP Jean Carlos stanton Is and I

905
00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:03,800
Speaker 2: would rather have Jean Carlos stand his new teammate Jesse Winker,

906
00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:07,320
Speaker 2: much rather bet on Jesse Winker with a high contact

907
00:41:07,719 --> 00:41:10,880
Speaker 2: in Seattle. Even in Seattle, I think we're I know

908
00:41:11,040 --> 00:41:13,560
Speaker 2: you're looking at power suppression. Everyone's looking at power suppression.

909
00:41:13,560 --> 00:41:15,719
Speaker 2: I think Jesse Winker is going to be the crime spot.

910
00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:18,160
Speaker 1: In the lineup power hitter in his career ever. But

911
00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:20,800
Speaker 1: he's been a high high last year for him.

912
00:41:20,719 --> 00:41:23,239
Speaker 2: But he's been a massive contact type of guy. I

913
00:41:23,360 --> 00:41:26,360
Speaker 2: have a problem believing Mitch Handiger is a going to

914
00:41:26,560 --> 00:41:28,759
Speaker 2: stay completely healthy though if he eaches, that's going to

915
00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:31,840
Speaker 2: help and be able to maintain the stats. Bat X

916
00:41:32,080 --> 00:41:35,000
Speaker 2: has his power projection down to thirty one homers off

917
00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:37,160
Speaker 2: of the thirty nine. Bat X also has in the

918
00:41:37,239 --> 00:41:40,320
Speaker 2: eighties to run an RBI and a sub two fifty

919
00:41:40,360 --> 00:41:43,840
Speaker 2: batting average, And again you look at the outfielders that

920
00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:46,120
Speaker 2: are around him. I would rather have Winker, I'd rather

921
00:41:46,120 --> 00:41:49,360
Speaker 2: have Stand, I'd rather have Schwarber. God, if he qualified,

922
00:41:49,360 --> 00:41:53,440
Speaker 2: I'd rather have franmil Reyis. I don't think it's an exorbitant,

923
00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:55,520
Speaker 2: crazy cost, but I think based on paying a top

924
00:41:55,520 --> 00:41:58,200
Speaker 2: one hundred, you know, overall pick, I think we're going

925
00:41:58,280 --> 00:41:59,840
Speaker 2: to be disappointed at the end of the day with

926
00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:02,799
Speaker 2: who we passed up for. Mitch Haniger, so I'm to say,

927
00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:03,800
Speaker 2: min Channager.

928
00:42:04,160 --> 00:42:06,439
Speaker 1: It's fair. I think there's a drop off right around

929
00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:10,120
Speaker 1: one hundred, though, too, where it's fran Bille's Koleshwarber, it's Winker,

930
00:42:10,160 --> 00:42:12,799
Speaker 1: it's Hanneger, And I like all those guys right about there,

931
00:42:13,520 --> 00:42:15,200
Speaker 1: kind of like the last one I can get if

932
00:42:15,200 --> 00:42:18,560
Speaker 1: that makes sense. Sure, it's like like, I like them all,

933
00:42:18,640 --> 00:42:21,319
Speaker 1: but give me the who was going last? Okay, that guy,

934
00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:22,120
Speaker 1: I think that's.

935
00:42:22,040 --> 00:42:24,520
Speaker 2: Say something awful now, Joe, you're gonna be Jo's gonna

936
00:42:24,520 --> 00:42:26,600
Speaker 2: be awful. It is a horrible pick. This is his

937
00:42:26,680 --> 00:42:29,319
Speaker 2: worst decision of the season, worst bus. I hate it.

938
00:42:29,360 --> 00:42:29,759
Speaker 2: I hate it.

939
00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:33,600
Speaker 1: Take ever, I don't want it to be you do,

940
00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:36,160
Speaker 1: I don't I take I take no joy in this though.

941
00:42:36,719 --> 00:42:40,520
Speaker 1: There's zero joy in Mudville for me taking Byron Buxton

942
00:42:40,640 --> 00:42:43,800
Speaker 1: as my boss. He's up to number fifty six overall.

943
00:42:43,880 --> 00:42:47,640
Speaker 1: Right now, he's the seventeenth outfielder steal and I've stuck

944
00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:50,320
Speaker 1: up for Bucks. I was mister Buckston last year. Okay,

945
00:42:50,440 --> 00:42:53,600
Speaker 1: oh you were mister Buxton. I was mister Buckston on

946
00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:55,719
Speaker 1: the Breakout Show last year. Go back and listen to it.

947
00:42:55,800 --> 00:42:58,680
Speaker 1: I was all in. He did get nineteen home runs,

948
00:42:58,680 --> 00:43:01,919
Speaker 1: he stole nine bases, but he only laid sixty one

949
00:43:02,080 --> 00:43:05,799
Speaker 1: games and before that obviously shortened season twenty twenty. Can't

950
00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:08,560
Speaker 1: make too much of that twenty nineteen eighty seven games,

951
00:43:08,560 --> 00:43:10,480
Speaker 1: twenty eighteen, twenty eight games he played one hundred and

952
00:43:10,520 --> 00:43:13,480
Speaker 1: forty and twenty seventeen and before that ninety two. Look,

953
00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:16,440
Speaker 1: enough is enough. I mean, I'm not saying he doesn't

954
00:43:16,480 --> 00:43:19,040
Speaker 1: have that kind of incredible roto talent that can win

955
00:43:19,080 --> 00:43:21,560
Speaker 1: you a league. It's just do I want to take

956
00:43:21,600 --> 00:43:24,959
Speaker 1: him over George Springer or Randy rose Arena or Chris

957
00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:28,680
Speaker 1: Bryant or can Tell Marte and I don't. I don't

958
00:43:28,719 --> 00:43:30,960
Speaker 1: feel confident enough that I'm gonna get enough volume. I

959
00:43:30,960 --> 00:43:33,000
Speaker 1: think the quality's gonna be there. I think the power

960
00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:35,040
Speaker 1: speed combination is going to be there, But the problem

961
00:43:35,080 --> 00:43:37,960
Speaker 1: is Byron Buckson's never there. And it's okay to take

962
00:43:38,040 --> 00:43:40,279
Speaker 1: this risk. I'm not saying you can't do it, you

963
00:43:40,280 --> 00:43:43,560
Speaker 1: should never do it. What I'm saying is, when a

964
00:43:43,600 --> 00:43:45,239
Speaker 1: bust is staring us in the face as a guy

965
00:43:45,239 --> 00:43:48,400
Speaker 1: who continuously lets us down every single year, why do

966
00:43:48,440 --> 00:43:50,959
Speaker 1: we keep coming back to it year after year after year.

967
00:43:51,160 --> 00:43:53,280
Speaker 1: It's like we're, you know, just banging our heads against

968
00:43:53,280 --> 00:43:55,400
Speaker 1: the ball here, and this could be the year, but

969
00:43:55,440 --> 00:43:56,800
Speaker 1: it is the same thing we said last year and

970
00:43:56,880 --> 00:43:58,600
Speaker 1: the same thing we said the year before, and I'm

971
00:43:58,640 --> 00:43:59,360
Speaker 1: just tired of saying it.

972
00:43:59,480 --> 00:44:02,280
Speaker 2: Are you defined insanity right now? Are you defining insanity

973
00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:03,480
Speaker 2: as Byron buxs sanity?

974
00:44:03,520 --> 00:44:06,719
Speaker 1: Here's insanity. Would you rather have a player, okay, going

975
00:44:06,719 --> 00:44:09,279
Speaker 1: at pick number ninety overall, who came off the season

976
00:44:09,360 --> 00:44:11,800
Speaker 1: last year of twenty four home runs, ninety rbi, ninety

977
00:44:11,800 --> 00:44:14,080
Speaker 1: three runs, scored, five steals, and a three zero two

978
00:44:14,080 --> 00:44:18,120
Speaker 1: batting average. Would rather have that player or Byron bucks Buckston? Okay,

979
00:44:18,239 --> 00:44:20,960
Speaker 1: you're wrong because the other players Brian Reynolds and that's

980
00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:21,920
Speaker 1: my dude, Boxton.

981
00:44:22,680 --> 00:44:24,719
Speaker 2: What does my shirt say right now? Joe what's my

982
00:44:24,760 --> 00:44:25,279
Speaker 2: shirt say?

983
00:44:25,760 --> 00:44:29,040
Speaker 1: It says mistake, because yeah, that's you, your nipples, that's it.

984
00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:32,080
Speaker 2: I am almost covering up by nipples, but it says mistake.

985
00:44:32,120 --> 00:44:35,239
Speaker 2: It is a Bob Rosch. I'm wearing a Bob ross Shure, right,

986
00:44:35,239 --> 00:44:36,239
Speaker 2: but I but you are.

987
00:44:36,280 --> 00:44:38,840
Speaker 1: I think of happy accidents. I feel like that's pretty

988
00:44:38,880 --> 00:44:41,960
Speaker 1: much the theme of Byron Bucks's career, happys that land

989
00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:42,680
Speaker 1: him on the IL.

990
00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:45,479
Speaker 2: I just want to point out bad X has only

991
00:44:45,520 --> 00:44:48,760
Speaker 2: projected one hundred and twenty two games for him, which

992
00:44:48,880 --> 00:44:51,480
Speaker 2: you know that kind of leads to you. But in

993
00:44:51,520 --> 00:44:52,920
Speaker 2: those one hundred and twenty two.

994
00:44:52,719 --> 00:44:55,160
Speaker 1: Games, generous Welsh, that's generous.

995
00:44:55,280 --> 00:44:57,560
Speaker 2: Ah, I get out of here with your non generous

996
00:44:57,800 --> 00:45:00,960
Speaker 2: thirty homers and sixteen stolen base is in only those

997
00:45:00,960 --> 00:45:04,919
Speaker 2: one hundred and twenty two games? I ask you, what if?

998
00:45:05,560 --> 00:45:08,239
Speaker 2: And that's why I take Buxton. What if he were

999
00:45:08,280 --> 00:45:10,920
Speaker 2: to play those one forty that's a first it's a

1000
00:45:10,960 --> 00:45:11,840
Speaker 2: first round talent.

1001
00:45:12,719 --> 00:45:16,440
Speaker 1: You're not wrong. But I've I've heard this commercial before

1002
00:45:16,480 --> 00:45:19,040
Speaker 1: for Byron Buxton, and I keep having to send it

1003
00:45:19,080 --> 00:45:22,480
Speaker 1: back because it's some sort of you know, factory defect,

1004
00:45:22,480 --> 00:45:24,400
Speaker 1: and I keep having to return it on Amazon and

1005
00:45:24,440 --> 00:45:26,960
Speaker 1: go to Cole's because I can't return it thraight through Amazon.

1006
00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:28,200
Speaker 1: Now I got to go to Cole's and do it,

1007
00:45:28,200 --> 00:45:30,320
Speaker 1: and then they give you Cole's cash back, and that's great.

1008
00:45:30,480 --> 00:45:32,200
Speaker 1: I love the Coles cash, but what am I gonna

1009
00:45:32,239 --> 00:45:34,200
Speaker 1: do with it? I gotta go spend it on Brian Reynolds.

1010
00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:36,600
Speaker 2: I look, shouldn't it be a crime that Cole's cash

1011
00:45:36,640 --> 00:45:39,239
Speaker 2: has an expiration date? By the way, and absolutely it

1012
00:45:39,280 --> 00:45:39,719
Speaker 2: is a crime.

1013
00:45:39,920 --> 00:45:40,120
Speaker 1: Ryme.

1014
00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:42,560
Speaker 2: You know what next president? They need to run on

1015
00:45:42,560 --> 00:45:46,080
Speaker 2: that platform. No expiration date on Cole's cash, and I

1016
00:45:46,120 --> 00:45:47,200
Speaker 2: think they got the country.

1017
00:45:47,840 --> 00:45:50,040
Speaker 1: I just learned this a few months ago. You can

1018
00:45:50,040 --> 00:45:52,719
Speaker 1: spend Cole's cash up to ten days after the expiration date.

1019
00:45:52,760 --> 00:45:53,239
Speaker 1: Did you know that?

1020
00:45:53,520 --> 00:45:56,799
Speaker 2: What's the point of an expiration date? Then that's what

1021
00:45:56,840 --> 00:45:58,800
Speaker 2: I said, what are we talking about here?

1022
00:45:59,239 --> 00:46:01,600
Speaker 1: And they said I asked him? I said, I said, oh,

1023
00:46:01,600 --> 00:46:03,400
Speaker 1: it expired to go Oh no, no, it's okay. It's

1024
00:46:03,440 --> 00:46:04,880
Speaker 1: still good for ten days after the day. I was

1025
00:46:04,880 --> 00:46:05,279
Speaker 1: like ten days.

1026
00:46:05,320 --> 00:46:07,160
Speaker 2: They trained like, give me a bigger windows. They're like

1027
00:46:07,360 --> 00:46:09,839
Speaker 2: they smell it, they smell the closes, are like, yeah,

1028
00:46:09,840 --> 00:46:11,480
Speaker 2: it still smells good. You can have ten more days

1029
00:46:11,480 --> 00:46:13,400
Speaker 2: after the expiration. What are you talking trying to do?

1030
00:46:13,640 --> 00:46:15,080
Speaker 1: They're trying to get you back in the store in

1031
00:46:15,120 --> 00:46:17,080
Speaker 1: seven days that day. Just want to keep coming back,

1032
00:46:17,239 --> 00:46:17,560
Speaker 1: and then you.

1033
00:46:17,600 --> 00:46:18,760
Speaker 2: Earn more calls a scam.

1034
00:46:18,840 --> 00:46:21,120
Speaker 1: You go spend it on Byron Buckston and it's a.

1035
00:46:21,040 --> 00:46:23,760
Speaker 2: Scam, like taking Brian Reynolds over Buckston. It's a scam.

1036
00:46:24,280 --> 00:46:26,919
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, dude, like, you're not wrong. He could

1037
00:46:26,920 --> 00:46:28,480
Speaker 1: be that dude. I'm so sick of that he could.

1038
00:46:28,840 --> 00:46:30,040
Speaker 2: The injury price will happen there.

1039
00:46:30,239 --> 00:46:33,439
Speaker 1: I will have a ton of DFS lineups. Man. Oh,

1040
00:46:33,480 --> 00:46:35,640
Speaker 1: when that guy's on and playing in lineup, I'm in.

1041
00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:37,880
Speaker 1: He's going to start a ton of DFS lineups for me.

1042
00:46:38,120 --> 00:46:40,000
Speaker 1: I just don't want him in season long formats anymore.

1043
00:46:40,040 --> 00:46:42,040
Speaker 1: I've had it, not at that cost anyway. All right,

1044
00:46:42,200 --> 00:46:44,319
Speaker 1: let's get to the pictures that made our list. Who

1045
00:46:44,320 --> 00:46:48,239
Speaker 1: are your two arms that you are officially anointing as

1046
00:46:48,320 --> 00:46:49,719
Speaker 1: busts for twenty twenty two.

1047
00:46:50,320 --> 00:46:52,080
Speaker 2: Well, one of them I just kind of followed your

1048
00:46:52,200 --> 00:46:55,239
Speaker 2: path here, But the top one, you're kind of going

1049
00:46:55,280 --> 00:46:56,839
Speaker 2: to see a trend if I'm going to really pick

1050
00:46:56,840 --> 00:46:59,719
Speaker 2: out bus here, And I went with Luis Castillo. Luis

1051
00:47:01,400 --> 00:47:04,520
Speaker 2: first off, has absolutely no support. If he were to

1052
00:47:04,560 --> 00:47:06,279
Speaker 2: be traded, that would be a positive, but the team

1053
00:47:06,320 --> 00:47:07,839
Speaker 2: said they don't want to trade him. They don't, they

1054
00:47:07,880 --> 00:47:09,680
Speaker 2: will not they don't want to trade him, they will

1055
00:47:09,719 --> 00:47:12,000
Speaker 2: not trade him. So he's stuck in this no man's

1056
00:47:12,080 --> 00:47:15,760
Speaker 2: land of no real run support, not a great ballpark

1057
00:47:15,800 --> 00:47:18,359
Speaker 2: to pitch. Also, typically last he.

1058
00:47:18,280 --> 00:47:20,719
Speaker 1: Gets traded mid season, like July to the Yankees or

1059
00:47:20,760 --> 00:47:21,319
Speaker 1: something like that.

1060
00:47:21,400 --> 00:47:24,759
Speaker 2: I think it's possibility, but the cost is pretty high.

1061
00:47:24,800 --> 00:47:28,120
Speaker 2: In the last two years, he's consistently been really poor

1062
00:47:28,160 --> 00:47:30,600
Speaker 2: first half. He's at a four ERA in the first half

1063
00:47:30,600 --> 00:47:33,759
Speaker 2: of both of the last two years. He's found himself

1064
00:47:33,880 --> 00:47:36,959
Speaker 2: a tiny bit, a tiny bit when he can get going,

1065
00:47:37,200 --> 00:47:40,360
Speaker 2: But I just don't think again it's it's rinse and repeat.

1066
00:47:40,400 --> 00:47:42,560
Speaker 2: And I apologize for being kind of rinse and repeat

1067
00:47:42,600 --> 00:47:44,680
Speaker 2: he here in some of my takes, But you know

1068
00:47:44,760 --> 00:47:46,480
Speaker 2: this is going to be the formula of how I'm

1069
00:47:46,520 --> 00:47:48,600
Speaker 2: going to pinpoint some of these guys. This is a

1070
00:47:48,640 --> 00:47:51,720
Speaker 2: guy that is just about top seventy five. He's one

1071
00:47:52,360 --> 00:47:56,319
Speaker 2: pick next to Joe Musgrove. Now Musgrove is ahead of him.

1072
00:47:56,440 --> 00:48:00,799
Speaker 2: I would take Joe Musgrove twenty picks than I would

1073
00:48:00,840 --> 00:48:03,440
Speaker 2: Louis Castillo, and they're next to each other. Even after

1074
00:48:03,480 --> 00:48:08,640
Speaker 2: With Luis Castillo you get guys like no, not at all,

1075
00:48:08,680 --> 00:48:11,600
Speaker 2: but you get Cease and Darvish. I would rather not

1076
00:48:11,719 --> 00:48:15,040
Speaker 2: take Castillo and wait almost two rounds to get Darvish

1077
00:48:15,120 --> 00:48:19,320
Speaker 2: or around to get Cease or Verlander, any Cortless, Redona,

1078
00:48:19,360 --> 00:48:21,880
Speaker 2: San Francis, Rodonda, San Francisco. I'd rather go those guys.

1079
00:48:22,280 --> 00:48:24,399
Speaker 2: I just if you're in a wins league and he's

1080
00:48:24,440 --> 00:48:25,840
Speaker 2: not gonna have a lot of wins, maybe I'll have

1081
00:48:25,880 --> 00:48:29,200
Speaker 2: some quality starts. He's typically started off kind of bad.

1082
00:48:29,440 --> 00:48:32,359
Speaker 2: What's the upside of getting to June and then him

1083
00:48:32,400 --> 00:48:34,239
Speaker 2: starting to piece it together When I think you'd have

1084
00:48:34,280 --> 00:48:36,799
Speaker 2: more consistent pictures, I'm gonna pass, and I think at

1085
00:48:36,800 --> 00:48:39,120
Speaker 2: the cost, this might be this might be the final

1086
00:48:39,160 --> 00:48:42,600
Speaker 2: hurrah that Luis Castillo firmly and tied that inside the

1087
00:48:42,640 --> 00:48:45,880
Speaker 2: top seventy five. And then the other one was Chris Saale.

1088
00:48:46,360 --> 00:48:47,839
Speaker 2: I kind of had a hard time picking these. You've

1089
00:48:47,880 --> 00:48:49,719
Speaker 2: got a couple injured ones that you're picking here. If

1090
00:48:49,760 --> 00:48:53,520
Speaker 2: you are taking Chris Sale right now, that's a mistake.

1091
00:48:54,440 --> 00:48:57,080
Speaker 2: I don't even see where the ADP is. Yeah, the

1092
00:48:57,120 --> 00:48:59,560
Speaker 2: ADP I don't think has adjusted. Yeah, it hasn't adjusted.

1093
00:48:59,600 --> 00:49:02,160
Speaker 2: It's still has him inside the top seventy five to

1094
00:49:02,280 --> 00:49:05,600
Speaker 2: nineteenth overall pitcher. That rib injury that he's got, he's

1095
00:49:05,600 --> 00:49:07,759
Speaker 2: not gonna throw for a couple of weeks. It could

1096
00:49:07,800 --> 00:49:09,680
Speaker 2: be months. It could I mean, it could be up

1097
00:49:09,719 --> 00:49:12,200
Speaker 2: to six months at worst, it could be three months

1098
00:49:12,239 --> 00:49:15,360
Speaker 2: on a typical. Maybe he comes back early. They've already

1099
00:49:15,400 --> 00:49:18,239
Speaker 2: babied him. They're gonna want him for the playoffs. Maybe

1100
00:49:18,239 --> 00:49:21,480
Speaker 2: they opener him with nursing an injury. Again, it's just

1101
00:49:21,560 --> 00:49:23,239
Speaker 2: bad news. It's the worst news you could get for

1102
00:49:23,320 --> 00:49:26,240
Speaker 2: Chris Sale. He's a complete avoid for me at this point.

1103
00:49:26,480 --> 00:49:29,600
Speaker 2: Sale went for like dude, he went for like four

1104
00:49:29,640 --> 00:49:32,200
Speaker 2: bucks or three bucks in tout this past weekend, so

1105
00:49:32,320 --> 00:49:34,040
Speaker 2: nobody was interested in paying.

1106
00:49:33,800 --> 00:49:35,840
Speaker 1: No, and where they should they be. It's a bad investment,

1107
00:49:35,880 --> 00:49:38,480
Speaker 1: which stinks. I mean, it's good for you know, the

1108
00:49:38,520 --> 00:49:40,839
Speaker 1: Hows of the world and Witlocks and some of those

1109
00:49:40,840 --> 00:49:43,680
Speaker 1: guys who are gonna have rotation opportunities. But I'm just

1110
00:49:43,800 --> 00:49:46,440
Speaker 1: I'm taking our good friend Scott Bogin's approach. If you're

1111
00:49:46,520 --> 00:49:48,239
Speaker 1: hurt before the season starts. I don't want anything to

1112
00:49:48,239 --> 00:49:51,319
Speaker 1: do with you. It's already at a deficit. It's really bad. Yeah,

1113
00:49:51,520 --> 00:49:53,360
Speaker 1: and for me because of that, two guys for me

1114
00:49:53,440 --> 00:49:56,160
Speaker 1: is Jack Flaherty, who I know, you know. He said, well,

1115
00:49:56,200 --> 00:49:58,000
Speaker 1: I've dealt with this, you know, slight tear of my

1116
00:49:58,000 --> 00:50:00,440
Speaker 1: shoulder for years and it was just a ma thing

1117
00:50:00,480 --> 00:50:03,040
Speaker 1: and now he fixed the mechanical thing. Great story, bro,

1118
00:50:03,360 --> 00:50:05,120
Speaker 1: I love it. I don't want anything to do with it.

1119
00:50:05,440 --> 00:50:06,920
Speaker 1: He might come back and be totally fine in a

1120
00:50:06,960 --> 00:50:09,160
Speaker 1: couple of weeks. I don't want to take that chance.

1121
00:50:09,280 --> 00:50:11,920
Speaker 1: He's had injuries before, and this is an injury we

1122
00:50:11,920 --> 00:50:14,360
Speaker 1: already no exists, So I already know that I'm on

1123
00:50:14,400 --> 00:50:17,040
Speaker 1: a ticking time bomb anyway, and I still got to

1124
00:50:17,040 --> 00:50:19,440
Speaker 1: pay a pretty good freight to get Jack Flaherty regardless,

1125
00:50:19,440 --> 00:50:23,120
Speaker 1: because everything is, you know, Sonny in Saint Louis right

1126
00:50:23,120 --> 00:50:25,080
Speaker 1: now with all the news coming out. And then the

1127
00:50:25,120 --> 00:50:27,600
Speaker 1: other one's Lance mccolors, who's got a history of elbow problems,

1128
00:50:27,960 --> 00:50:31,800
Speaker 1: who's got a flexer tendans train right now, and I

1129
00:50:31,840 --> 00:50:34,560
Speaker 1: love the talent, like going into the year, mccollor's is

1130
00:50:34,640 --> 00:50:36,200
Speaker 1: one of my YEP. I'm gonna get all the shares

1131
00:50:36,239 --> 00:50:38,120
Speaker 1: of Lance mccoors, and you know what, right now, I'm

1132
00:50:38,120 --> 00:50:41,400
Speaker 1: probably gonna have none. And mccolors right now is going

1133
00:50:41,480 --> 00:50:44,239
Speaker 1: all the way at one forty five right next to

1134
00:50:44,280 --> 00:50:48,360
Speaker 1: Adam Wainwright, HEYDWARDO. Rodriguez. I'd rather have a Dward Rodriguez

1135
00:50:48,360 --> 00:50:51,280
Speaker 1: and Lance mccolors right now, easily. And as far as Flaherty,

1136
00:50:51,320 --> 00:50:53,680
Speaker 1: he's still going right now is the top one hundred guy.

1137
00:50:53,719 --> 00:50:57,080
Speaker 1: He's going picture number twenty five, montass cees U Darvish,

1138
00:50:57,120 --> 00:50:59,560
Speaker 1: Alec Manoa, Trevor Rodgers, who I absolutely love. I'll take

1139
00:50:59,560 --> 00:51:02,920
Speaker 1: Trevor Rogers for Jack Flaherty every single day of the

1140
00:51:02,960 --> 00:51:05,359
Speaker 1: week and twice yes Sunday. I'm just going to all right,

1141
00:51:05,719 --> 00:51:08,960
Speaker 1: last but possibly least the reliever. So who is going

1142
00:51:09,000 --> 00:51:12,120
Speaker 1: to not close things out for our bust team? And

1143
00:51:12,160 --> 00:51:14,000
Speaker 1: I know we want two different directions on this song

1144
00:51:14,040 --> 00:51:15,400
Speaker 1: we did. I want to hear yours and then I've

1145
00:51:15,440 --> 00:51:16,839
Speaker 1: got a whole different take from mine.

1146
00:51:17,200 --> 00:51:19,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, I get where you were going with yours. I

1147
00:51:19,320 --> 00:51:23,600
Speaker 2: see reliever. I'm thinking closer and I pinpointed the one

1148
00:51:23,600 --> 00:51:26,759
Speaker 2: closer is still like in the early on stages of

1149
00:51:26,840 --> 00:51:28,680
Speaker 2: US like, oh, we're gonna have baseball, and we're doing

1150
00:51:28,680 --> 00:51:32,359
Speaker 2: mock drafts. Everybody is fighting over closers, and there's this

1151
00:51:32,400 --> 00:51:34,960
Speaker 2: one closer that kept going high because it was like, well,

1152
00:51:35,000 --> 00:51:37,120
Speaker 2: we know this guy's job, and there's these others twelve

1153
00:51:37,160 --> 00:51:40,080
Speaker 2: that don't have jobs. Everything has become more clear, and

1154
00:51:40,280 --> 00:51:43,240
Speaker 2: I have to say my bust would be the cost

1155
00:51:43,560 --> 00:51:47,640
Speaker 2: of Mark Mullanson inside the top one fifty. Mark mllanson currently,

1156
00:51:47,640 --> 00:51:51,360
Speaker 2: as far as relievers go, reliever closers is the twelfth

1157
00:51:51,400 --> 00:51:53,839
Speaker 2: overall guy. Yes, he saved a bunch of games lists

1158
00:51:53,880 --> 00:51:57,600
Speaker 2: last year, but he is with the Arizona Diamondbacks. Their

1159
00:51:57,600 --> 00:52:02,120
Speaker 2: offense is going to suck. They're not going to win games.

1160
00:52:02,280 --> 00:52:04,760
Speaker 2: Here's the other problem. I mean the amount of times

1161
00:52:04,760 --> 00:52:07,240
Speaker 2: he's starting pitchers have not had the proper run support

1162
00:52:07,239 --> 00:52:10,000
Speaker 2: to even get in there. His mind boggling. Yes, they

1163
00:52:10,000 --> 00:52:12,000
Speaker 2: help themselves bring in a guy like I and Kennedy

1164
00:52:12,239 --> 00:52:14,560
Speaker 2: to kind of shore up. Maybe if they were to

1165
00:52:14,719 --> 00:52:18,399
Speaker 2: have actual runs that they could maybe carry it into

1166
00:52:18,440 --> 00:52:21,520
Speaker 2: the ninth. I don't see how Mark mlanson is going

1167
00:52:21,560 --> 00:52:24,840
Speaker 2: to get a whole boatload of saves plus prime trade candidate.

1168
00:52:24,840 --> 00:52:27,640
Speaker 2: This is Diamondbacks one oh one, you go and draft

1169
00:52:27,680 --> 00:52:31,920
Speaker 2: a relatively cheap bullpen arm or even player, and you

1170
00:52:31,960 --> 00:52:34,040
Speaker 2: trade them at the deadline for future assets. They're not

1171
00:52:34,120 --> 00:52:37,080
Speaker 2: winning anything. All they're doing is just trying to pretend

1172
00:52:37,200 --> 00:52:39,280
Speaker 2: like they're trying to win games so they can stack

1173
00:52:39,400 --> 00:52:42,440
Speaker 2: cash into the whole. You know, new agreement, Milance is

1174
00:52:42,440 --> 00:52:44,000
Speaker 2: gonna get traded, and he's gonna get traded to a

1175
00:52:44,000 --> 00:52:45,920
Speaker 2: place where he's not safe. He's not getting saved. So

1176
00:52:45,960 --> 00:52:48,080
Speaker 2: the back half of the year I don't expect saves.

1177
00:52:48,200 --> 00:52:49,960
Speaker 2: The front half, it's all going to be one of

1178
00:52:50,000 --> 00:52:54,240
Speaker 2: the worst teams in baseball with no big, real safe chances.

1179
00:52:54,280 --> 00:52:56,239
Speaker 2: Maybe he'll have a couple of weeks, dude, I'm telling you,

1180
00:52:56,320 --> 00:52:58,640
Speaker 2: if the Diamondbacks pull out some wins early on and

1181
00:52:58,680 --> 00:53:01,280
Speaker 2: Mark Mullanson, let's say gets five saves in two weeks,

1182
00:53:01,560 --> 00:53:05,279
Speaker 2: sell him immediately. It's a bad, bad spot. He's not

1183
00:53:05,360 --> 00:53:07,680
Speaker 2: a bad, bad closer, but it's a bad spot. So

1184
00:53:07,760 --> 00:53:09,920
Speaker 2: that is a bust for me, and it's gonna look gross.

1185
00:53:09,960 --> 00:53:11,120
Speaker 2: I think at the end of the year, when you

1186
00:53:11,160 --> 00:53:12,799
Speaker 2: look at the costs that some of you guys paid

1187
00:53:12,840 --> 00:53:13,920
Speaker 2: on Milanson.

1188
00:53:14,760 --> 00:53:17,400
Speaker 1: For me, it's hazus Lozardo. Everybody loves the guys that

1189
00:53:17,680 --> 00:53:21,040
Speaker 1: have dual eligibility, Right, you have that SP potentially who

1190
00:53:21,120 --> 00:53:24,400
Speaker 1: qualifies an RP and those deeper leagues, but mandatory RP

1191
00:53:24,600 --> 00:53:26,120
Speaker 1: slots could be tough. But this was a guy with

1192
00:53:26,160 --> 00:53:28,440
Speaker 1: a six ERA last year. I know he was a

1193
00:53:28,440 --> 00:53:31,120
Speaker 1: can't miss prospect. That it happened sometimes sometimes they missed.

1194
00:53:31,280 --> 00:53:34,239
Speaker 1: Maybe he'll find himself again, but I'm not gonna I'm

1195
00:53:34,239 --> 00:53:35,960
Speaker 1: not gonna pay to find out like i'd rather him.

1196
00:53:36,200 --> 00:53:39,200
Speaker 1: I hope he does find himself somewhere else, and I

1197
00:53:39,239 --> 00:53:41,040
Speaker 1: hope he does it on someone else's team because it's

1198
00:53:41,040 --> 00:53:43,720
Speaker 1: not gonna be online. So I'm rooting for hazus Lozardo,

1199
00:53:44,320 --> 00:53:46,920
Speaker 1: but I'm not trying to write stories here about comebacks.

1200
00:53:46,920 --> 00:53:49,640
Speaker 1: I'm trying to win championships. And I know he's dirt cheap,

1201
00:53:49,960 --> 00:53:51,759
Speaker 1: you know, I get that in terms of overall we're

1202
00:53:51,760 --> 00:53:54,600
Speaker 1: talking about two eighty three. But you know what Kakuchi

1203
00:53:54,680 --> 00:53:58,279
Speaker 1: and Corey klueber around there as far as starting pitchers, right,

1204
00:53:58,400 --> 00:53:59,560
Speaker 1: So maybe I'll take a.

1205
00:53:59,520 --> 00:54:01,600
Speaker 2: Shot at one of the I like Thinkkukuchi.

1206
00:54:02,400 --> 00:54:03,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I'm saying is I'd rather have one of

1207
00:54:04,000 --> 00:54:06,080
Speaker 1: those guys on my roster than try to like be

1208
00:54:06,160 --> 00:54:07,640
Speaker 1: fancy and say, oh, you know what, I'm going to

1209
00:54:07,680 --> 00:54:09,840
Speaker 1: take this guy because he qualifies a URP two and

1210
00:54:10,200 --> 00:54:12,439
Speaker 1: you know what, maybe he gets the maybe he does,

1211
00:54:12,520 --> 00:54:14,680
Speaker 1: maybe he gets right. But you know what, there's guys

1212
00:54:14,680 --> 00:54:17,719
Speaker 1: like Danelson Lamett at the relief spot I think are

1213
00:54:17,760 --> 00:54:20,120
Speaker 1: worth more of an opportunity. There's a couple of other

1214
00:54:20,200 --> 00:54:22,799
Speaker 1: relievers to the Ashby's of the world that I think

1215
00:54:22,840 --> 00:54:24,759
Speaker 1: are interesting that maybe I want to have on my roster.

1216
00:54:24,840 --> 00:54:27,239
Speaker 2: Maybe, Oh that's the options. That's a great point, like

1217
00:54:27,560 --> 00:54:30,040
Speaker 2: the only format I really look at it well. I

1218
00:54:30,040 --> 00:54:33,200
Speaker 2: mean I shouldn't say that if you have strict RP

1219
00:54:33,920 --> 00:54:37,600
Speaker 2: uh stuff, then sure you can manipulate it. Aaron Ashby

1220
00:54:37,680 --> 00:54:39,600
Speaker 2: is a prime example and a perfect guy that they're

1221
00:54:39,640 --> 00:54:42,000
Speaker 2: stretching out to try to give a rotation spot too

1222
00:54:42,280 --> 00:54:44,759
Speaker 2: that you can then manipulate that RP spot. I would

1223
00:54:44,800 --> 00:54:47,960
Speaker 2: rather have him than Lezardo points. I think Lazarta makes

1224
00:54:47,960 --> 00:54:50,000
Speaker 2: a little bit more sense again, like you don't love

1225
00:54:50,040 --> 00:54:51,920
Speaker 2: to take closers in points, and if you can use

1226
00:54:51,960 --> 00:54:54,320
Speaker 2: those spots for like Michael Kopek might be the number

1227
00:54:54,360 --> 00:54:57,960
Speaker 2: one like relief picture if you're playing that game this year.

1228
00:54:58,040 --> 00:55:00,000
Speaker 2: The poster child for this, Yeah, you want to take

1229
00:55:00,520 --> 00:55:02,840
Speaker 2: I could see Lozardo in points. There's no other format

1230
00:55:02,880 --> 00:55:04,719
Speaker 2: I really want, even if I'm trying to manipulate, even

1231
00:55:04,760 --> 00:55:06,200
Speaker 2: if I'm trying to be like, oh, I'm gonna punt

1232
00:55:06,239 --> 00:55:07,960
Speaker 2: saves and head to head and I'm gonna use those

1233
00:55:08,080 --> 00:55:10,759
Speaker 2: rps for starters, Lizardo's not the guy. It would be.

1234
00:55:10,800 --> 00:55:13,160
Speaker 2: Kopek and Ashby would be like probably one and two

1235
00:55:13,520 --> 00:55:14,800
Speaker 2: of what I would try to piece together.

1236
00:55:14,840 --> 00:55:18,000
Speaker 1: So I agree with you, agreed, So there you have it.

1237
00:55:18,040 --> 00:55:20,960
Speaker 1: Those are the all bust guys. My team Kybert Release,

1238
00:55:21,040 --> 00:55:24,720
Speaker 1: dj le Mayhew at first, jass Echizabet second, Rendon at third,

1239
00:55:24,800 --> 00:55:27,040
Speaker 1: Hove your bias at short, Buston in the outfield, playing

1240
00:55:27,080 --> 00:55:31,120
Speaker 1: all three spots, then Flaherty, mccullors and Lozardo, Welsh, has

1241
00:55:31,160 --> 00:55:35,200
Speaker 1: Mondi Grondal, Ryan Malcastle, Jonathan India, yoa Mancata, Corey Seeger,

1242
00:55:35,880 --> 00:55:39,799
Speaker 1: Mitch Hanneger, Luis Gestillo, Chrissel and Mark Millanson.

1243
00:55:39,920 --> 00:55:42,879
Speaker 2: So mine looks a lot more baseball. Mine looks Mine

1244
00:55:42,920 --> 00:55:46,320
Speaker 2: looks a little uh like a little bit more intense.

1245
00:55:46,400 --> 00:55:48,080
Speaker 2: My list looks like like I think people are gonna

1246
00:55:48,080 --> 00:55:49,840
Speaker 2: get a little bit more mad. About mine, like I

1247
00:55:49,840 --> 00:55:50,560
Speaker 2: look at yours.

1248
00:55:50,600 --> 00:55:52,719
Speaker 1: I've got Baia's and Rendon and Buxton, so.

1249
00:55:52,719 --> 00:55:55,319
Speaker 2: I oh but no, Buxton should get people upset about that.

1250
00:55:55,360 --> 00:55:57,080
Speaker 2: I'm just saying I look at mine and it's like, oh,

1251
00:55:57,120 --> 00:55:58,719
Speaker 2: well's put himself out there a little bit more. I

1252
00:55:58,760 --> 00:55:59,560
Speaker 2: might get yelled at it.

1253
00:56:00,560 --> 00:56:02,240
Speaker 1: We have to go find the over under for Buckston

1254
00:56:02,320 --> 00:56:04,680
Speaker 1: Games and have a little side bed side back. You'll

1255
00:56:04,680 --> 00:56:06,279
Speaker 1: have to figure that out. Maybe we'll figure that on

1256
00:56:06,360 --> 00:56:09,280
Speaker 1: the fest on Tuesday night for six pm. It starts

1257
00:56:09,360 --> 00:56:13,520
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1258
00:56:13,560 --> 00:56:17,360
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1259
00:56:17,400 --> 00:56:21,600
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1260
00:56:21,719 --> 00:56:24,719
Speaker 1: Nick Pollock, Bogman, Welsh DVR is gonna be on it,

1261
00:56:24,920 --> 00:56:27,680
Speaker 1: Derek Van Riiper, Eric Cross. It's got a great group

1262
00:56:27,719 --> 00:56:29,520
Speaker 1: of people. We're gonna talk about so many things. Lauren

1263
00:56:29,520 --> 00:56:31,600
Speaker 1: Auerbach's gonna come back as well and join us for that.

1264
00:56:31,680 --> 00:56:34,000
Speaker 1: Dalton del Donna think's gonna be on so a great

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