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Speaker 2: This is the Best of the Herd with Colin Cowver

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Speaker 1: Here we go. It is a Wednesday, it is Super

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Speaker 1: Bowl week. We're live, We're in Los Angeles. It's the

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Speaker 1: Hurt wherever you may be, however you may be watching us.

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Speaker 1: Christian McCaffrey stopping by today, Fred Warner, Chris Long And

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Speaker 1: as always, I do it for the big games. I

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Speaker 1: did it for the AFC Championship. I did it for

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Speaker 1: the NFC Championship. I get a notepad and I write

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Speaker 1: down the ten best players in the game, and I'll

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Speaker 1: have that either later this hour or top of next down.

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Speaker 1: So I've worked at seven different corporations in my life.

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Speaker 1: Been very fortunate, and there's been a lot of different

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Speaker 1: leadership styles. I would say this though, when a culture

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Speaker 1: or a business is broken, one style is highly effective.

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Speaker 1: Conflict the Bears were broken, the Patriots were broken, the

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Speaker 1: Broncos were broken, the Chargers were broken, and they brought

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Speaker 1: in coaches that had only really one thing in common.

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Speaker 1: They'll get in your face. They don't avoid conflict. Mike

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Speaker 1: Frable came into a broken franchise. I know Girodmeo was

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Speaker 1: only there for a year. It was a mess. And

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Speaker 1: the media loves fluff pieces on nice guys. I know

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Speaker 1: Mike he got mad at me once on text, because

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Speaker 1: that's who Mike is and he never holds grudges. But

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Speaker 1: I remember when Mike mcdan and you'll got that Dolphin job.

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Speaker 1: He's a nice guy, he's fun and he's quirky, And

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Speaker 1: I kept asking the question, is he going to stand

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Speaker 1: in a room of fifty five alphas and kind of

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Speaker 1: intimidate them and they're worried about keeping their job or

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Speaker 1: a DNP. And two years after he took the job,

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Speaker 1: he saw a bunch of stories leaking. Doesn't command the

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Speaker 1: respect of the room players are working him. So just

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Speaker 1: a reminder, Bill Walts, Jimmy Johnson, and Bill Belichick, they

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Speaker 1: demanded excellence. They didn't request it, it was demanded. And

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Speaker 1: there were two organizations this year to me that totally

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Speaker 1: felt broken. The Bears Ben Johnson got hired, and the

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Speaker 1: Patriots Mike Crable got hired offensive guy, defensive guy. And

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Speaker 1: Bears fans are funny in Chicago. They come up to

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Speaker 1: me all the time. You're so hard on Caleb Williams,

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Speaker 1: and I always say Ben Johnson's harder. Stop seeking comfort.

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Speaker 1: You finally got a quarterback. Don't lecture people on how

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Speaker 1: to handle them. Bill Belichick was on Tom Brady's butt

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Speaker 1: twenty years in demanding excellence. Ooh, Caleb Williams improved, So

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Speaker 1: what is he playing in this game? Drake may is

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Speaker 1: Sam Darnold is? There is no who I arrived at quarterback?

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Speaker 1: Go ask Tom Brady and Drew Brees every seasons and

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Speaker 1: new season. Football is hard. It is violent, and it

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Speaker 1: is precise, and there is a requisite level of intensity

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Speaker 1: and conflict that is absolutely necessary. Mike McDaniel's a good guy.

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Speaker 1: Mike Brabel jumped into the middle of fights during training camp.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you watch those old Jimmy Johnson clips and

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Speaker 1: last week, Miracle The Boys of eighty. It's on Lake

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Speaker 1: placid on Herb Brooks Rest in peace. Herb Brooks scared players.

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Speaker 1: Nobody said nice guy. Even his kids acknowledged he was tough,

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Speaker 1: he was demanding, he didn't sleep well. And Herb Brooks

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Speaker 1: and great bosses take you to a place and accompany

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Speaker 1: to a place you couldn't get in your own and

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Speaker 1: was hearing these stories early where Rabel's jumping into fights,

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Speaker 1: Belichick would seethe, roll his eyes at you once a year, snap,

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Speaker 1: but he held grudges. I've been told this by multiple people.

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Speaker 1: Vrabel will snap at you as a reporter three days

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Speaker 1: I think grudge holding is bad management. But when I

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Speaker 1: plays into his favor. The Patriots are underdogs. Everybody's talking

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Speaker 1: them again, no pandering, no soft speech, nobody thinks you

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Speaker 1: can win. Here was Brady yesterday on Mike No. One.

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Speaker 3: Brabel, he's probably got every bit of underdog material up everywhere.

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Speaker 3: We were fourteen point underdogs in two thousand and one

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Speaker 3: Braves as part of that team. Believe me, Colin, if

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Speaker 3: you kick the Seahawks, I'm sure he's gonna be telling

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Speaker 3: the entire team that Colin Collor picked the Seahawks. We're underdogs.

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Speaker 3: someone's got to be that. They've been clutched. They've played

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Speaker 3: good defense, they've played good offense. They've been explosive plays,

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Speaker 3: They've really found a lot of different ways to win.

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Speaker 3: And that's why that's why they're playing in this game.

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Speaker 1: And as of Wednesday, I still like New England close.

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Speaker 1: So I read a story this morning. The headline was

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Speaker 1: who has the most to gain or lose legacy wise

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Speaker 1: I love Mike McDonald. You have to have a legacy

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Speaker 1: before you can improve or deteriorate it. Like the guys

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Speaker 1: like thirty eight years old, it didn't have a legacy yet.

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Speaker 1: Now you can change Mike McDonald's trajectory, but you're not

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Speaker 1: changing his legacy on this list. And really it's the

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Speaker 1: only player on this list who you can change their legacy.

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Speaker 1: And you know who it is. It's Sam Donald. Because legacies,

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Speaker 1: I mean Sam's was already engraved in stone. They wrote

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Speaker 1: you can feel his legacy. We judge Sam donald interceptions

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Speaker 1: different than Drake May. If Drake May throws two picks,

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Speaker 1: it's not a headline. If Sam Donald throws one and

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Speaker 1: they lose, that's the headline. Last week against the Rams,

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Speaker 1: he was virtually perfect. In fact, people talked about Matt

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Speaker 1: Stafford's game. Actually Donald was better because Stafford wasn't good

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Speaker 1: change his legacy. It will change the way he is introduced.

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Speaker 1: In fact, I was reading stories this week and there's

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Speaker 1: the jet fuel for it is Donald. Where people are

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Speaker 1: now saying, we judge quarterbacks too early, we quit on

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Speaker 1: quarterbacks too early. That's because of Sam Darnald. Nobody wrote

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Speaker 1: a new chapter, it's a new book. But I will

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Speaker 1: tell you this that when I watched Donald, and I

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Speaker 1: don't think I'm unique or singular in this. When I

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Speaker 1: watched him nervously, and I wondered it Sam doesn't play nervously.

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Speaker 1: But I thought, we are just going to judge Sam

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Speaker 1: Nobody cares. Nobody cares. Drake May has played poorly in

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Speaker 1: the playoffs. If Drake May plays good enough to win,

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Speaker 1: not even well, Oh my god, Drake May was a

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl. If Sam Donald plays okay but has an

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Speaker 1: big game? What about last week? Who played last I

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Speaker 1: don't remember that game two weeks ago. So here's Mike

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Speaker 1: Vrabel on what he sees on film with Sam Donald.

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Speaker 4: He's handled it well.

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Speaker 5: I think that, you know, again, there's a willingness to

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Speaker 5: There's a lot of talent. I think his courage to

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Speaker 5: So he and shy Way didn't Duck, didn't fade back.

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Speaker 5: He stood there and face the fire, which what you

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Speaker 5: have to do in this league if you're going to

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Speaker 1: I still think I'm gonna take the points. I think

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Speaker 1: it's low scoring. I think there are several field goals.

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Speaker 1: I do think Seattle has more good players, but not

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Speaker 1: I think you and I see the same kind of game,

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Speaker 1: A lot of it between the thirties. Both defenses excellent,

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Speaker 6: I would totally agree the unders coming down.

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Speaker 7: I thought at forty five yesterday it just people are

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Speaker 7: concerned with this Patriots offense. Can they do anything against

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Speaker 1: So I went, I have a relationship at the school

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Speaker 1: who is friends with a current coach in the AFC.

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Speaker 1: He is a current position coach in the AFC, and

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Speaker 1: they are close. I know my friend, but I don't

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Speaker 1: the Patriot says he thinks New England is going to

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Speaker 1: I also think New England's front and their secondary are outstanding,

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Speaker 1: so but that's I think it's a very I mean,

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Speaker 1: I told you that I think it's got a twenty

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Speaker 7: To Meaniel doesn't have a Will Anderson coming off the edge.

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Speaker 7: But what they do have is just waves of defenders

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Speaker 7: coming on the blitz and you don't know where it's

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Speaker 7: coming from up the middle, left right. I do wonder though,

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Speaker 7: on Seattle's side, Colin, I don't know how to say

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Speaker 7: this politely, but is there any concern at all that

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Speaker 7: Sam Darnold maybe reverts to being Carolina Sets.

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Speaker 1: I think here's the bigger deal. If you bracket JSM,

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Speaker 1: who's their number two receiver, Raha.

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Speaker 1: His well, yeah, Rashidzahat is a special teams foenof and

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Speaker 1: it is a singular sideline over the top throw, which

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Speaker 1: they did last week. Yeah, if you take out Stefan Diggs,

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Speaker 1: I still think they have some interesting pieces New England does.

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Speaker 1: Very explosive, So it's to me, I think it will

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Speaker 1: be a defense even when Brady played for the Patriots,

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Speaker 1: and I think veryble has Belichick's sort of sensibility. Tom

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Speaker 1: New England's gonna come in. It's gonna be much, very

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Speaker 1: much feel it out. You're not gonna put Drake May

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Speaker 1: You could see a very conservative It's like a boxing

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Speaker 1: It is six to four Seattle advantage. At number eleven.

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Speaker 1: Whenever you play a team or a defense like the

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Speaker 9: How quickly can you find your normal routine as a player.

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Speaker 9: I think its preparation was the throughway between those two

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Speaker 9: super Bowls for me.

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Speaker 1: You know, it's interesting you forget because Drake May has

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Speaker 1: played in bad weather for three straight games and great defenses.

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Speaker 1: Everybody now thinks, you know, New England's offense a bit

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Speaker 1: of a mess. I'm like, guys, they had the most

435
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Speaker 1: the most big plays in the league. Their offensive line

436
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Speaker 1: because they have a rookie left tackle, was a bit

437
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Speaker 1: of a work in progress. But I think what's happened

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Speaker 1: in this game because the rams C game was so dynamic,

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Speaker 1: We're like, that's what Seattle is well most of the time.

440
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Speaker 1: It should be noted stafford ate this defense of Seattle

441
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Speaker 1: up twice with no mobility, and then you look at

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Speaker 1: New England You're like, oh god, this offense is hard

443
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Speaker 1: to watch. Yes, in blizzards against the Texans, it is

444
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Speaker 1: hard to watch. My belief is New England, because of

445
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Speaker 1: the snow games and the recent activity, we have recency bias.

446
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Speaker 1: We're undervaluing this team. Beat Buffalo could have beaten them

447
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Speaker 1: a second time. When I say to you, Patriot Seahawks,

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Speaker 1: do you indisputably believe well, Seattle's got just far more

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Speaker 1: good players.

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Speaker 9: I think they have more good players. But if you're

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Speaker 9: picking New England, you're making a coach and a quarterback pick.

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Speaker 9: You know, for the reasons that we discussed the experience

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Speaker 9: for the coaches. And I think Drake may you know,

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Speaker 9: whether it's him or Stafford, he's one of the two

455
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Speaker 9: most valuable players in the league this year.

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Speaker 4: It's a regular season award. You know, the.

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Speaker 9: Explosives you talked about, They hunt those explosives. They hunted

458
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Speaker 9: them right there boute in the snow, putting Houston away.

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Speaker 9: They're gonna hunt them on Sunday, I think, especially with

460
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Speaker 9: the Rams having so many explosives in that third matchup. Now,

461
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Speaker 9: the difference is the Rams have Devonte Adams and they

462
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Speaker 9: have pukin Nakua. They got a bunch of tight ends

463
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Speaker 9: they throw the ball to. I think the interesting thing

464
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Speaker 9: is going to be how Seattle secondary matches up with

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Speaker 9: New England's pass catching weapons, which I think if you

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Speaker 9: went back and you looked at like where they were

467
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Speaker 9: ranked to start the season, Colin probably thirty first outside

468
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Speaker 9: they were ranking that wide receiver group, yep. So I

469
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Speaker 9: mean that's a reality they they've probably played above themselves

470
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Speaker 9: and a lot of it has to do with the quarterback.

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Speaker 9: But I think the explosives are gonna be a big

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Speaker 9: part of this game. And the other thing is you

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Speaker 9: can't you can't sell New England short because they're gonna

474
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Speaker 9: play before this is all said and done for the

475
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Speaker 9: top five defenses in the NFL in route to this

476
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Speaker 9: super Bowl. That's a tough path for these guys. You

477
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Speaker 9: mentioned the the whole thing.

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Speaker 1: I always thought. I lived in New England region for

479
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Speaker 1: ten years and I always people say, like, what was

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Speaker 1: it like? And you live there, and I always said,

481
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Speaker 1: there's all this money, but you'll never see a maserati.

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Speaker 1: I said, it has the lowest percentage of convertibles, maseratis, porsches.

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Speaker 1: Why it's not a showy region. It's mit it's Harvard.

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Speaker 1: They're first in on analytics. When you look at the

485
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Speaker 1: history of the sports there, it's always viewed itself the region.

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Speaker 1: They like being overlooked. They've got a chip on their shoulder.

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Speaker 1: And when I lived there, I always said, there's all

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Speaker 1: this wealth here, but you wouldn't know it. It's down

489
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Speaker 1: a long driveway, nobody's driving sports car. There is something

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Speaker 1: about New England being an underdog in this game that

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Speaker 1: I think really fits their profile. They like that they

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Speaker 1: Belichick every year is like he would you could ask

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Speaker 1: him about the Browns, he'd go, unbelievable, team I don't

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Speaker 1: know if we can match up with them. When you

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Speaker 1: were there, did you if you sense that sort of

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Speaker 1: an academic feel that they don't want the press, they

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Speaker 1: want the trophy.

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Speaker 4: I think they won an enemy.

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Speaker 9: You know, that's kind of like the Boston thing, the

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Speaker 9: Massachusetts thing. It was explained to me when I got

501
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Speaker 9: there that they call these people massholes. I found them

502
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Speaker 9: to be really nice people, but they love a common enemy.

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Speaker 9: And you know, for a long time when they were

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Speaker 9: the dynasty, and I as a player, always appreciated that

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Speaker 9: dynasty and found myself admiring it. I think a lot

506
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Speaker 9: of people, as fans, they get tired of it, and

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Speaker 9: you know, so you get this callous kind of mentality

508
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Speaker 9: of it's us against the world. And even in some

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Speaker 9: of these runs that they weren't underdogs, you know, they

510
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Speaker 9: were trying to play into that whole thing. Now here

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Speaker 9: they are catching four and a half points on the

512
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Speaker 9: world's biggest stage.

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Speaker 4: I don't think I think this year is.

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Speaker 9: So unique, Colin, and that you could have probably picked

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Speaker 9: twelve teams and said any of these teams could have

516
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Speaker 9: won the Super Bowl. So I don't think there's a juggernaut.

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Speaker 9: And I think verybele selling that to his team, like,

518
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Speaker 9: these guys aren't Juggernauts. Neither of these teams were supposed

519
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Speaker 9: to be here at the beginning of the season. I

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00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:10,280
Speaker 9: think it's gonna be a great game. I I lean

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Speaker 9: more low scoring, yes, and and I do think it

522
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Speaker 9: is powerful to play that. Obviously, with my time in Philly,

523
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Speaker 9: we we put that thing on overdrive the whole you know,

524
00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:23,880
Speaker 9: nobody believes anything. We put on dog masks. So I

525
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Speaker 9: believe in that tactic and it works.

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Speaker 1: The you know, it's it's go to your first super Bowl.

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Speaker 1: And I always like asking players go to your first

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Speaker 1: series or your first time on the field, in your

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Speaker 1: first Super Bowl, what do you remember about it? Were

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Speaker 1: you nervous? A lot of pro athletes say they it's

531
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Speaker 1: a blur. They don't remember a lot about it.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it is a blur.

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Speaker 9: It's you can almost remember more the the sounds and

534
00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:55,200
Speaker 9: the smells, like your senses. But you know, you don't

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Speaker 9: have concrete memories of what transpired on the first drive.

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Speaker 9: You know, I remember in New England, it couldn't have

537
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Speaker 9: started worse. I've been waiting my whole life for this,

538
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Speaker 9: you know, spending eight years in Saint Louis two and

539
00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:08,480
Speaker 9: fourteen one and fifteen seven and nine was the ceiling

540
00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:10,640
Speaker 9: for us. So like to get there, you wait your

541
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Speaker 9: whole life for it. And I remember at this point

542
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Speaker 9: in the season, I had been not relegated, but you

543
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Speaker 9: know I was a third down player. You know they

544
00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:19,520
Speaker 9: were playing me at three technique leading up to the game.

545
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Speaker 9: You know, I was a defensive end on third down.

546
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Speaker 9: And we couldn't even get to third down Colin. I

547
00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:28,479
Speaker 9: was barely on the field. It was like I was

548
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Speaker 9: I was gonna cramp from being too tight from sitting

549
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Speaker 9: on the sideline. We're down twenty one to three, twenty

550
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Speaker 9: eight three, whatever it is. I remember the first the

551
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Speaker 9: first third down, I get in, I get slide. We're

552
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Speaker 9: three man rush, so I get this wall of bodies.

553
00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:45,120
Speaker 9: I stick my foot in the ground and I chipped

554
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Speaker 9: off a piece of a bone in my knee, And

555
00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:49,280
Speaker 9: I remember thinking, did I just get hurt? The first

556
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Speaker 9: play of the Super Bowl. But your adrenaline is so

557
00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:55,640
Speaker 9: strong that just carries you through the game. It is

558
00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:58,480
Speaker 9: a blur, man. It's the sights and sounds of it

559
00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:02,680
Speaker 9: the whole week, from preparing right through the parade. It's

560
00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:05,160
Speaker 9: like you better have a polaroid or like a camera

561
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Speaker 9: because it just goes by so fast.

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Speaker 1: I look at four coaches who took over messes, Ben Johnson,

563
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Speaker 1: Jim Harbaugh. I would say, Mike Frabel, Yeah, Sean Payton

564
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Speaker 1: teams were a mess.

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Speaker 4: Yes.

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Speaker 1: And I said, I've had a lot of different bosses.

567
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Speaker 1: I've worked at seven corporations, right, I said, there's a

568
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Speaker 1: lot of different ways to manage. But when something's broken,

569
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Speaker 1: the way to fix it quickly is you have to

570
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Speaker 1: be comfortable with conflict. And I've heard stories about that,

571
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Speaker 1: like the Seahawks when Mike McDonald took them over, We're

572
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Speaker 1: not broken, okay, that they weren't to broken franchise. They

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Speaker 1: won a lot of games Denver. When Sean Payton got

574
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Speaker 1: there was broken. New England was broken. And I've heard

575
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Speaker 1: stories about Vrabel like he it's media, it's trainers, it's players,

576
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Speaker 1: it's Brady, it's Belichick. He's a conflict guy. He was Belichick.

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Speaker 1: I mean the whole New England culture. I mean your

578
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Speaker 1: take on what you hear about Vrabel as a former player.

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Speaker 1: Does it matter that he's a former player? Does that

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Speaker 1: buy him credibility?

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Speaker 9: Yes, it does And I'm not saying that guys that

582
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Speaker 9: didn't play can't cover the game or coach the game

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Speaker 9: to the level I mean, like, there's some great football

584
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Speaker 9: people that had never put on a helmet. But when

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Speaker 9: you have a guy like him who was a really

586
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Speaker 9: good player, not the most gifted player, probably garnered the

587
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Speaker 9: respect of all his teammates. Was described to me as

588
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Speaker 9: like the consummate teammate. Yeah, that's like a superpower in

589
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Speaker 9: a position of leadership. And you see him waiting on

590
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Speaker 9: guys coming in the locker room after the game, giving

591
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Speaker 9: them all hugs. That stuff's not performative. I feel like

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Speaker 9: I have a pretty good radar as a former player

593
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Speaker 9: on guys that like and a lot of this is

594
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Speaker 9: college football centric, where you see guys and you're like,

595
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Speaker 9: these guys are fake. This is all performative. Mike Vrabel

596
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Speaker 9: is who he is. What you see is what you get.

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Speaker 9: Played appreciate that, and we also appreciate being told the truth.

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Speaker 9: That's one thing I always appreciate about Belichick was, you know,

599
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Speaker 9: like I had coaches that would walk a mile around

600
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Speaker 9: confrontation and telling you the truth and telling you if

601
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Speaker 9: what you were doing wasn't cutting it or what we

602
00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:19,080
Speaker 9: were doing as a team. Something needed to change. Too

603
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Speaker 9: often personal relationships getting the way of success, and in

604
00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:26,360
Speaker 9: the NFL that's definitely the case. This is an organization

605
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Speaker 9: has found their way on the doorstep of this thing

606
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Speaker 9: again and they did it by doing the hard things.

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Speaker 9: And you know, I think hiring Mike Vrabel is going

608
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Speaker 9: to turn out to be one of the best decisions

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Speaker 9: a team has made this decade.

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Speaker 1: Chris Long Smart Guy, green Light Chris Long Podcast. Also

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Speaker 1: partnering with Super uh, which is something close to my heart.

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Speaker 1: On pet adoption. I've done that several times. Talk about

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Speaker 1: that Super loves pets. Colin, You'll love Super for that.

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Speaker 4: You know. They told me I got a partnership with Super.

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Speaker 4: What are you doing today? I get to go play

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Speaker 4: with some dogs. I'm going to a shelter Muttville. Uh.

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Speaker 9: Super wants you to look at the underdogs at the shelter.

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Speaker 9: The older dogs. Try to give those dogs a shot

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Speaker 9: to get overlooked a lot. And I think this is

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Speaker 9: somebody texts me this morning, I don't have it on

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Speaker 9: my calendar. I think is an eighth anniversary of us

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Speaker 9: winning that Super Bowl and Philly we were underdogs everybody

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Speaker 9: loves an underdog this time of year. We just talked

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Speaker 9: about one for some time in the Patriots suber is

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Speaker 9: looking out for the underdog. Super loves pets. I'll be

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Speaker 9: headed out in an outback wilderness in a little bit, Colin,

627
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Speaker 9: and that sounds pretty good to me.

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Speaker 4: We'll be going to Muttville to play with some dogs.

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Speaker 1: So you look good, Chris, you look good.

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Speaker 4: Thanks man. Thanks, I'm hanging in there.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, good, fam Dad looks good. Dad's hanging on. You

632
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Speaker 1: know that.

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Speaker 9: Guy's genetics are insane. How old is he? He's unbelievable.

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Speaker 1: He doesn't talk about that television age. Yeah, good to

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Speaker 1: see anybody.

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Speaker 4: It's good to see you. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Likewise, all right, Chris Long, super smart guy. Great family

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Speaker 1: green Light with Chris Long Pault. We had Fred Warner earlier.

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Speaker 1: Good job by Dave. We got some good guests today.

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Speaker 1: We got Christian McCaffrey coming up.

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Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays

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Speaker 2: and noone Easter not a em Pacific.

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Speaker 1: So it's his first interview of the day. So Christian

644
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Speaker 1: McCaffrey comes in. Ha, he's ready to go. Nine years

645
00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:25,880
Speaker 1: five all pros I've said this before. He's one of

646
00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:28,080
Speaker 1: the top three running backs I've ever seen, Walter Payton,

647
00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:32,719
Speaker 1: Barry Sanders, and Christian So you carried the ball. You

648
00:37:32,719 --> 00:37:36,200
Speaker 1: had four hundred and fifty touches this year. How many

649
00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:39,799
Speaker 1: days after the season ended did you wake up and feel, Man,

650
00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:42,600
Speaker 1: I feel grabbing to go for a walk. I'm gonna

651
00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:45,920
Speaker 1: walk the dog. I don't even know I'm a football player.

652
00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:49,480
Speaker 1: How many days after the season did you feel you

653
00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:51,160
Speaker 1: rolled out of bed and it felt great?

654
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Speaker 4: Oh, Man's a good question. I think.

655
00:37:57,200 --> 00:37:59,279
Speaker 10: I was talking to Kyle Yuscheck yesterday. We were at

656
00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:02,560
Speaker 10: the Pro Bowl. Such a great experience, but I hadn't

657
00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:05,560
Speaker 10: done really anything since that or before that, and so

658
00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:07,880
Speaker 10: being able to move around a little bit actually felt great.

659
00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:10,040
Speaker 4: So I was happy about that.

660
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Speaker 10: You never know when you when you take a couple

661
00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:14,040
Speaker 10: of weeks off that first workout back, I don't know

662
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Speaker 10: how I'm gonna feel, but it was good to move

663
00:38:15,719 --> 00:38:17,600
Speaker 10: around and my body felt pretty good. So it made

664
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Speaker 10: me excited to start training this offseason.

665
00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:23,480
Speaker 1: So you face the Seahawks three times this year, so

666
00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:25,560
Speaker 1: we know, I mean, they've got a lot of dudes.

667
00:38:25,840 --> 00:38:29,680
Speaker 1: I mean on the corners, Nick im and Wara. That's

668
00:38:29,719 --> 00:38:33,920
Speaker 1: the safety. The rookie is a tremendous rookie. So what

669
00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:36,839
Speaker 1: are the looks for you? You, I mean they they

670
00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:39,239
Speaker 1: did a as good a job as shutting down you

671
00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:42,279
Speaker 1: as anybody in this sport has done since you entered

672
00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:45,360
Speaker 1: the league. What was their secret sauce against your off.

673
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Speaker 10: Ebse Well, I think, you know, when you play against

674
00:38:49,239 --> 00:38:52,760
Speaker 10: a defense like that, you really can't make mistakes. You know,

675
00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:55,400
Speaker 10: you have to be very detailed and efficient stay on

676
00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:59,320
Speaker 10: the field. And they play such good team defense. They swarm,

677
00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:02,319
Speaker 10: you know, and I think that to me is the

678
00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:05,200
Speaker 10: biggest testament to how good they are. It's not just

679
00:39:05,600 --> 00:39:07,520
Speaker 10: you know this scheme, but they have the players to

680
00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:10,239
Speaker 10: make the scheme come to life. Obviously you mentioned all

681
00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:12,759
Speaker 10: the individual players that they have that are fantastic, But

682
00:39:13,040 --> 00:39:14,600
Speaker 10: you know, I always think the best defense is that

683
00:39:14,640 --> 00:39:17,440
Speaker 10: I've always faced, played the best team defense. They play together,

684
00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:20,680
Speaker 10: They play as a unit. The pass rush is linked

685
00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:24,960
Speaker 10: up with the secondary. The linebackers flow hard, and you know,

686
00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:27,759
Speaker 10: can be downhill that can play well in coverage, and

687
00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:29,440
Speaker 10: you know, really makes a complete defense.

688
00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:33,880
Speaker 1: You know, you were teammates with Sam Darnold for a

689
00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:38,239
Speaker 1: year and I love Donald as the guy. I loved

690
00:39:38,280 --> 00:39:40,759
Speaker 1: him at SC. I just think he's a guys guy.

691
00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:43,360
Speaker 1: He's a he's a pro athletes, pro athlete, he's a

692
00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:47,040
Speaker 1: really solid human being. He wasn't playing in San Francisco

693
00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:49,960
Speaker 1: that it's really hard you've always played to be a

694
00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:53,239
Speaker 1: good talented guy and sit and watch what was he

695
00:39:53,320 --> 00:39:54,640
Speaker 1: like as a teammate during that time?

696
00:39:56,120 --> 00:39:58,279
Speaker 10: Actually, Colin I was a teammate with him a Carolina too,

697
00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:01,080
Speaker 10: so I've had two I had two stints with him,

698
00:40:01,239 --> 00:40:05,080
Speaker 10: and you know, I remember when people ask me about

699
00:40:05,120 --> 00:40:07,279
Speaker 10: Sam when I had first you know, I'd always known

700
00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:09,080
Speaker 10: him a little bit, but when I first met him

701
00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:12,160
Speaker 10: in Carolina, from the jump, I was like, this guy's

702
00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:15,759
Speaker 10: a dude. And the more and more you see him

703
00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:17,480
Speaker 10: at practice that you see the throws you make, you

704
00:40:17,560 --> 00:40:19,440
Speaker 10: understand why he's a top pick in the draft.

705
00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:21,279
Speaker 4: And then you're around him more and you're like, this

706
00:40:21,360 --> 00:40:21,680
Speaker 4: is one.

707
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Speaker 10: Of the best players I've been around period.

708
00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:24,000
Speaker 1: Wow.

709
00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:28,520
Speaker 10: And it's because of how talent, talent, how talented his

710
00:40:28,680 --> 00:40:32,160
Speaker 10: arm is. He's he's way more athletic than people give

711
00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:35,120
Speaker 10: him credit for, and he's really good at taking what's

712
00:40:35,160 --> 00:40:36,759
Speaker 10: given to him and doing his job, and I think

713
00:40:36,800 --> 00:40:39,480
Speaker 10: so many times you see quarterbacks who start out in

714
00:40:39,520 --> 00:40:42,799
Speaker 10: bad situations and get the blame for it. And he's

715
00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:45,680
Speaker 10: somebody that I can't say enough good things about. He

716
00:40:45,880 --> 00:40:49,320
Speaker 10: shows up every day with an unbelievable attitude whatever position

717
00:40:49,400 --> 00:40:52,920
Speaker 10: he's in, never makes excuses, never complains about you know,

718
00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:55,239
Speaker 10: something that happened in NTV Frank Man. I mean he's

719
00:40:55,440 --> 00:40:58,440
Speaker 10: He's gone through so much in this league that a

720
00:40:58,480 --> 00:41:00,640
Speaker 10: lot of people would have folded or would have had to,

721
00:41:00,800 --> 00:41:04,080
Speaker 10: you know, blame, blame whoever it might have been that

722
00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:05,000
Speaker 10: they felt was their fault.

723
00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:07,280
Speaker 4: He never did that. He showed up every day, kept working.

724
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Speaker 10: Uh you know, even last year taking you know, taking

725
00:41:10,320 --> 00:41:12,719
Speaker 10: Minnesota to a fourteen win season and taking him to

726
00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:15,440
Speaker 10: the playoffs, and then doing it again this year.

727
00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:16,560
Speaker 4: Now playing in the super Bowl.

728
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Speaker 10: I think it's a testament to his resiliency, the kind

729
00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:21,880
Speaker 10: of guy he is and the player he is. You know,

730
00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:24,080
Speaker 10: if you're not a quarterback in this league, that's good,

731
00:41:24,080 --> 00:41:25,600
Speaker 10: and don't take a team to a super Bowl. So

732
00:41:25,640 --> 00:41:27,719
Speaker 10: I I mean, he's one of my best friends and

733
00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:28,920
Speaker 10: also an incredible player.

734
00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:32,040
Speaker 1: Well you mentioned best friends. In fact, it was your

735
00:41:32,080 --> 00:41:35,360
Speaker 1: wedding in Rhode Island. I walked into the hotel and

736
00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:38,160
Speaker 1: there was all these Carolina Panthers and there was Greg

737
00:41:38,200 --> 00:41:42,759
Speaker 1: Olson and Jonathan Stewart and uh, uh was that Matt

738
00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:44,920
Speaker 1: Khalil was it was? I think he was that Luke

739
00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:48,319
Speaker 1: Keithlee was saying khal rank Khalil. And then and then

740
00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:51,960
Speaker 1: I saw Darnold later and I saw a long snapper.

741
00:41:52,360 --> 00:41:54,960
Speaker 1: So that's I remember that moment that he was one

742
00:41:55,000 --> 00:41:56,920
Speaker 1: of your guys. He was one of the guys you

743
00:41:57,000 --> 00:42:01,480
Speaker 1: roll with. You know, it's interesting. I think New England

744
00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:04,480
Speaker 1: and Seattle are a little alike. Here's what I worry

745
00:42:04,520 --> 00:42:09,160
Speaker 1: about Seattle. Josh McDaniel's the OC has been in. This

746
00:42:09,200 --> 00:42:12,720
Speaker 1: will be his tenth Super Bowl. Seattle is a young

747
00:42:12,880 --> 00:42:16,440
Speaker 1: team as good as they are, this is a new experience,

748
00:42:16,680 --> 00:42:20,560
Speaker 1: overwhelmingly for this roster. So I mean, you know, go

749
00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:24,520
Speaker 1: back you play it in the twenty twenty three Super Bowl,

750
00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:27,080
Speaker 1: go back to your first Super Bowl? Is it is

751
00:42:27,120 --> 00:42:29,000
Speaker 1: it jarring? Is it overwhelming? Early?

752
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Speaker 10: You know, I think youth can be a crutch for

753
00:42:36,320 --> 00:42:38,480
Speaker 10: a team, but it can also be a superpower. Now,

754
00:42:38,480 --> 00:42:40,680
Speaker 10: if you've got a bunch of young, hungry, young guys

755
00:42:41,080 --> 00:42:43,759
Speaker 10: who play the right way and play extremely hard. That

756
00:42:43,800 --> 00:42:46,680
Speaker 10: can be a massive advantage on a big stage. And

757
00:42:46,719 --> 00:42:48,439
Speaker 10: so I think, you know, each game has a life

758
00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:51,640
Speaker 10: of its own, all that distractions are what they are.

759
00:42:52,200 --> 00:42:52,360
Speaker 4: You know.

760
00:42:52,440 --> 00:42:53,960
Speaker 10: I was lucky enough to be on a team that

761
00:42:54,040 --> 00:42:55,560
Speaker 10: had a bunch of guys who had already played in

762
00:42:55,560 --> 00:42:56,080
Speaker 10: a Super Bowl.

763
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Speaker 4: Obviously Kyle's been to Super.

764
00:42:57,440 --> 00:43:02,000
Speaker 10: Bowls, and so the vice throughout the week was how

765
00:43:02,040 --> 00:43:04,359
Speaker 10: to control some of those distractions and keep the mind

766
00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:05,879
Speaker 10: on football. And I thought our guys did a good

767
00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:08,360
Speaker 10: job of that. You know, it's once the game starts,

768
00:43:08,360 --> 00:43:10,520
Speaker 10: it's football, you know, and it's all about execution. So

769
00:43:11,200 --> 00:43:12,960
Speaker 10: you know, for me personally, I felt like, you know,

770
00:43:13,080 --> 00:43:15,279
Speaker 10: we manage those as best as we could.

771
00:43:15,600 --> 00:43:17,640
Speaker 1: Listen, I know when you're on the sidelines, you're not

772
00:43:17,719 --> 00:43:23,920
Speaker 1: watching necessarily other offensive players. But JSN for Seattle is insane.

773
00:43:24,440 --> 00:43:27,479
Speaker 1: I said this. He reminds me has a little Jerry

774
00:43:27,560 --> 00:43:31,360
Speaker 1: Rice to him and I in that he never slows

775
00:43:31,400 --> 00:43:34,080
Speaker 1: down into the break. Out of the break. It's just

776
00:43:34,280 --> 00:43:37,640
Speaker 1: one gear. You have this ability like you cut and

777
00:43:37,680 --> 00:43:41,279
Speaker 1: it's the same speed. When you're on the sidelines and

778
00:43:41,320 --> 00:43:45,640
Speaker 1: you're and you're watching JSN, what do you seem what

779
00:43:45,640 --> 00:43:48,440
Speaker 1: what do you look at and go, wow, that is

780
00:43:48,480 --> 00:43:49,800
Speaker 1: different than other guys.

781
00:43:52,040 --> 00:43:52,600
Speaker 4: Well, you're right.

782
00:43:52,680 --> 00:43:55,279
Speaker 10: Yeah, I don't always watch other guys, but I think

783
00:43:55,280 --> 00:43:57,600
Speaker 10: when you're playing against somebody like that, you can't help

784
00:43:57,640 --> 00:43:59,720
Speaker 10: but watch him because he you know, he's always making plays.

785
00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:02,600
Speaker 4: I think he has everything you would want.

786
00:44:02,640 --> 00:44:05,879
Speaker 10: You know, he's fasty strong, he's quick, He's really good

787
00:44:05,920 --> 00:44:09,239
Speaker 10: after the catch. He has great hands, so even if

788
00:44:09,239 --> 00:44:12,360
Speaker 10: he is covered he's not makes great contested catches.

789
00:44:13,040 --> 00:44:15,000
Speaker 4: But you're right, you know, to maintain the same.

790
00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:17,880
Speaker 10: Pad level in and out of routes is very deceiving

791
00:44:17,920 --> 00:44:20,360
Speaker 10: for corners. And you know he does as good a

792
00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:21,279
Speaker 10: job of anybody at that.

793
00:44:21,880 --> 00:44:24,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what Brady said. He keeps the same pad level,

794
00:44:24,840 --> 00:44:27,120
Speaker 1: so he keeps you off balance. You don't really know

795
00:44:27,160 --> 00:44:33,200
Speaker 1: where he's going. Okay, by the way, you're this prebiotic soda.

796
00:44:33,280 --> 00:44:35,520
Speaker 1: I live on this stuff. This all the pop stuff

797
00:44:35,560 --> 00:44:39,440
Speaker 1: you're doing. So tell my wife all the time, and

798
00:44:39,840 --> 00:44:42,239
Speaker 1: I got my family on this. How long have you

799
00:44:42,280 --> 00:44:44,880
Speaker 1: been working with them?

800
00:44:45,239 --> 00:44:47,280
Speaker 10: I just started working with him, but I've been drinking

801
00:44:47,320 --> 00:44:49,040
Speaker 10: it for a while now. I mean, I love the stuff.

802
00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:50,960
Speaker 10: It's it's a soda. You don't have to feel bad

803
00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:55,000
Speaker 10: about drinking. You know, I love it. I absolutely love it.

804
00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:58,040
Speaker 10: And now I've been with Alipop now for about seventeen

805
00:44:58,080 --> 00:45:00,840
Speaker 10: minutes or whenever this started. But it was one of

806
00:45:00,880 --> 00:45:03,440
Speaker 10: those partnerships that I got really excited about because I

807
00:45:03,520 --> 00:45:06,560
Speaker 10: genuinely love the product. You know, it's good for you.

808
00:45:06,640 --> 00:45:09,760
Speaker 10: It's very low in sugar, high in fiber, and something

809
00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:12,520
Speaker 10: that I don't feel bad about putting my name my

810
00:45:12,640 --> 00:45:13,239
Speaker 10: name to it all.

811
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Speaker 1: Hey, a lot of people think I don't like brock Purty.

812
00:45:17,360 --> 00:45:21,000
Speaker 1: It is not true. It's just that my partner here, Jason,

813
00:45:21,120 --> 00:45:24,960
Speaker 1: is so obnoxious and I'm a darnald guy because I

814
00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:27,799
Speaker 1: love Sam, so I don't want that spreading that I'm not.

815
00:45:28,440 --> 00:45:31,719
Speaker 1: I'm not a Rock Purtty guy. He's a quality quarterback.

816
00:45:32,120 --> 00:45:34,399
Speaker 1: If I didn't have this guy across from me telling

817
00:45:34,480 --> 00:45:37,080
Speaker 1: me he's better than Elway, I always feel like, you know,

818
00:45:37,120 --> 00:45:39,919
Speaker 1: I have to like slow him down. But I will

819
00:45:39,920 --> 00:45:44,160
Speaker 1: say this about Rock Purdy. I think he genuinely loves

820
00:45:44,440 --> 00:45:48,960
Speaker 1: seeing his teammates succeed. You can see it in the

821
00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:51,879
Speaker 1: way he greets his teammates. Not all, not all pro

822
00:45:51,920 --> 00:45:55,600
Speaker 1: athletes are happy for other guys. To succeed. Did you

823
00:45:55,680 --> 00:45:58,080
Speaker 1: initially did you know he was going to be this good?

824
00:45:58,200 --> 00:46:01,440
Speaker 1: This quick? When you mean seventh round guy Iowa State?

825
00:46:01,560 --> 00:46:02,319
Speaker 1: Did you see it?

826
00:46:04,400 --> 00:46:06,200
Speaker 10: I didn't. I'll be honest with you. I knew he

827
00:46:06,280 --> 00:46:08,880
Speaker 10: was going to be good. I didn't know he was

828
00:46:08,920 --> 00:46:12,359
Speaker 10: going to be this good. He's surpassed every expectation of mine.

829
00:46:12,400 --> 00:46:14,239
Speaker 10: I've I've played with a lot of quarterbacks and he's

830
00:46:14,280 --> 00:46:16,200
Speaker 10: one of those guys where every day he does stuff

831
00:46:16,239 --> 00:46:18,520
Speaker 10: that now it's not a shocking because it's who he

832
00:46:18,600 --> 00:46:21,520
Speaker 10: is and he does it every day. But he's unbelievable, man,

833
00:46:21,520 --> 00:46:23,839
Speaker 10: he really is. I think I go back to when

834
00:46:23,880 --> 00:46:26,399
Speaker 10: I first got traded to the Niners. I was trying

835
00:46:26,440 --> 00:46:28,839
Speaker 10: to learn the plays as quick as possible, and he was.

836
00:46:29,120 --> 00:46:31,719
Speaker 10: He was the third string quarterback at the time, and

837
00:46:31,840 --> 00:46:33,960
Speaker 10: it was him who I was going over the plays with.

838
00:46:34,000 --> 00:46:36,640
Speaker 10: We were doing walkthroughs and after hours, you know, trying

839
00:46:36,640 --> 00:46:38,279
Speaker 10: to get this stuff done, and you could see the

840
00:46:38,320 --> 00:46:41,239
Speaker 10: intensity and the urgency. And he wasn't just doing this

841
00:46:41,320 --> 00:46:43,319
Speaker 10: for me. He was doing this for him too, trying

842
00:46:43,320 --> 00:46:45,759
Speaker 10: to go through his reads, his progressions, and so man,

843
00:46:45,800 --> 00:46:46,880
Speaker 10: he's had a chip on his shoulder.

844
00:46:46,920 --> 00:46:49,200
Speaker 4: I'm sure since he was a kid. He plays with it.

845
00:46:49,239 --> 00:46:53,000
Speaker 10: He plays with with with so much confidence and swagger,

846
00:46:53,040 --> 00:46:55,160
Speaker 10: but puts the work in. You know, he's calm and collected,

847
00:46:55,200 --> 00:46:59,520
Speaker 10: but he's a killer and super can't say enough good

848
00:46:59,560 --> 00:47:01,760
Speaker 10: things about him and pumped up that he's our quarterback.

849
00:47:02,080 --> 00:47:04,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, he is. I mean there's he is one

850
00:47:04,760 --> 00:47:07,480
Speaker 1: of those guys that he is one of my favorite quality.

851
00:47:07,680 --> 00:47:10,200
Speaker 1: If he throws a pick, it does not bother him.

852
00:47:10,239 --> 00:47:13,160
Speaker 1: He just he has a short memory. He's a gamer.

853
00:47:13,280 --> 00:47:16,279
Speaker 1: Like and some guys, it bothers. It never bothers him.

854
00:47:16,640 --> 00:47:18,480
Speaker 1: I mean, listen, it's hard in this league. You get

855
00:47:18,800 --> 00:47:22,120
Speaker 1: fourteen possessions. You're playing as Seattle. You're gonna you're gonna

856
00:47:22,160 --> 00:47:24,239
Speaker 1: make mistakes, You're gonna fumble, You're gonna do this. And

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Speaker 1: I I will say this, this guy has been well coached.

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Speaker 1: I don't know his parents, but they did a good

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Speaker 1: job because he is just a gamer. I'm glad you

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Speaker 1: like him. That helps I love him.

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Speaker 4: I love him.

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Speaker 1: Christian as you like him too. I swear to God,

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Speaker 1: I do I swear Christian.

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Speaker 10: Good good good. Seeing you co appreciate it, man, all right.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's sometimes I get marginalized because I got you

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Speaker 1: over here saying best quarterback in the league, Josh Allen

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Speaker 1: brock Purty, and I have to pump the brake.

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Speaker 7: I like how He laughs and goes yeah, and sir,

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Speaker 7: I'm glad you like him too.

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Speaker 6: Everybody knows baby in San France, that's your guy.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it was. You know, maybe I'm turning the corner.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, there we go.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I went to Rhode Island to a wedding and

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Speaker 1: there was like nine Carolina Panthers in the hotel and

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Speaker 1: they're like Christians getting married, and Darnold was just down

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Speaker 1: the street street them all