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Speaker 1: To witness Brits football fans. Welcome to the biggest tailgate

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Speaker 1: party in the nation. Fox Sports Radios Countdown to Kickoff, presented.

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Speaker 3: We're setting you up with the information you need to

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Speaker 3: watch your team win.

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Speaker 2: Let's go.

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Speaker 1: We're here to break it all down. God, this is

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Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radios Countdown the Kickoff, presented by Bett emg App.

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Speaker 3: We're lying from your tailgate.

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Speaker 1: Here's Brian Nook, former Penn State All American, Rich Hornberger

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Speaker 1: and FSR betting analyst Jared Smith.

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Speaker 4: To we have Lions kickoff.

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Speaker 2: Oh, there we go, There we go. Do we have Brian?

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Speaker 4: Now, what's going on?

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Speaker 1: You got me?

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Speaker 5: Or what?

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Speaker 2: Here we go? Here we go?

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Speaker 6: All right, lead us off, Fearless Leader. We were having

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Speaker 6: technical difficulties. I was jumping in for you.

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Speaker 4: Know, oh man, yeah, wow, Sorry, I don't know what's

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Speaker 4: going on over there. I'm speaking. I don't know what

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Speaker 4: you're hearing.

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Speaker 5: But I was just saying, you know, I don't know

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Speaker 5: if there's a new name for this week's show, right,

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Speaker 5: Like normally this is countdown to kickoff? Right, yeah, this

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Speaker 5: might be countdown to Nitney Lyons kickoff. This morning with

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Speaker 5: you two Hanks, just both graduates of Penn State, and

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Speaker 5: I know you guys are just giddy today, just itching

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Speaker 5: with enthusiasm.

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Speaker 6: I don't want to speak for Jared, but this has

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Speaker 6: been probably one of the most fun mornings to wake

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Speaker 6: up for in recent memory. It feels a little bit

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Speaker 6: like Christmas morning. I can't tell you how many people

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Speaker 6: have reached out to me this week. It's like this

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Speaker 6: is a big one. We need this one, you know

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Speaker 6: what I mean. It's just like it's fun. I mean,

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Speaker 6: as a Nitney Lion, a former player for that university

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Speaker 6: and a fan of James Franklin's I've thought over the

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Speaker 6: years he's done a really nice job recruiting, and there

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Speaker 6: have been plenty of coaching changes in his regime. The

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Speaker 6: that's the unfortunate benefit of being or should say detraction

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Speaker 6: of being a good coach, is you'll lose help. You'll

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Speaker 6: lose talented coordinators under you, and he's done nice things

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Speaker 6: replacing those coaches. There have been several iterations in the

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Speaker 6: Franklin regime, and I think this might be the best one.

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Speaker 6: I'm a big fan of obviously the offensive side of

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Speaker 6: made at the quarterback position. They have a strong running

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Speaker 6: game as always, but it's this defense. It's it's undeniably great.

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Speaker 6: They give them a shot every single week. The giddiness

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Speaker 6: is just pouring through every single poor.

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Speaker 2: Right now, what do you got first, Jared? I mean,

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Speaker 2: this is I'm sorry. You know.

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Speaker 3: The funny thing is I have people in my so

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Speaker 3: my Penn State group chat popping off this week obviously,

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Speaker 3: but I'll give you a take from one of my

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Speaker 3: friends and Rich. I'm fascinated to hear your opinion on this.

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Speaker 4: What about me?

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Speaker 3: I don't care.

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Speaker 4: Notre Dame doesn't matter. Just do the show with Rich,

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Speaker 4: Go ahead ahead.

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Speaker 2: We didn't even turn no, no, no, it's weak, but.

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Speaker 6: You we didn't even turn your microphone on, Brian.

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Speaker 3: We tried.

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Speaker 5: I actually paid off, almost worked it, almost freaking work.

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Speaker 3: So one of my friends said, this game doesn't matter.

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Speaker 3: We're making the playoff anyways, keep Drew healthy for that. Wow, this,

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Speaker 3: I'll read you the direct quote. Yeah, let me shout

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Speaker 3: out my friend Ben Rotman. He's from Long Island, Penn

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Speaker 3: State along. We went to school together. This weekend's game

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Speaker 3: doesn't matter for Penn State. They're gonna make the playoffs regardless.

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Speaker 3: They only care about getting guys healthy rich. Your thoughts

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Speaker 3: on that, sir.

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Speaker 6: Oh no, no, no, no, listen to me now. Now that

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Speaker 6: this man sounds like a smart man. He's a pencil.

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Speaker 2: He's not.

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Speaker 3: He's not.

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Speaker 2: He's a cloud.

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Speaker 3: I love him, but he's a cloud.

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Speaker 2: He's a smart man. He's a penn Stater.

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Speaker 6: He's the longest a Long Island guy too. Yeah, I

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Speaker 6: But but when it comes to football, I mean, we

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Speaker 2: You don't.

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Speaker 6: You never want to have a situation where a team

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Speaker 6: It's like it's I don't even know how to describe it.

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Speaker 2: This game.

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Speaker 6: If I were a player still on this team, I

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Speaker 6: I would want to destroy them. I would want to

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Speaker 2: Never?

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Speaker 6: But you're always willing to make that sacrifice for one

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Speaker 6: much fun to watch. That's the reason why people are

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Speaker 2: There's a little blood in it, people really enjoy it.

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Speaker 6: And I'm telling you from the side of being the

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Speaker 6: So trust me when I tell you, even though this

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Speaker 6: man is a long islander, even though this man Jared

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Speaker 6: in your group text is a Penn Stater.

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Speaker 2: And we are, he is one hundred percent wrong.

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Speaker 3: I said, I love you, but this is the worst

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Speaker 3: take you've ever had. And a lot of it's about

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Speaker 3: Drew Aller, right, like, yeah, you know, sprain knee, And

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Speaker 3: we'll see how healthy he is. The problem I see,

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Speaker 3: if you start Perbula this week and you go into

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Speaker 3: wish you had Aller right, So it it doesn't make

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Speaker 3: I hope he's healthy enough to at least compete in

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Speaker 3: a lot of other Penn staters that are more conservative

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Speaker 3: is for the most important game. I do think they're

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Speaker 3: in the playoff. They can lose my one hundred today.

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Speaker 3: They're probably still going to make the playoff if they're

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Speaker 3: a one lost Big ten team, But obviously you want

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Speaker 3: to win this game.

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Speaker 2: To win this game.

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Speaker 5: It's an interesting thought. Listen, I get it. I understand

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Speaker 5: where your friend is coming from.

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Speaker 2: Jared.

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Speaker 5: To me, it's a more digestible take if it's a

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Speaker 5: percentage thing, right, if you're like true allers, is he

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Speaker 5: the like lose the battle but win the war type thing.

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Speaker 5: Right when you're thinking about, hey, let's we lose to

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Speaker 5: That's that's harder to digest for me. But hey, you

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Speaker 5: and still make the playoffs.

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Speaker 4: Yep, I just wish that.

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Speaker 5: I'm hoping I should say that he has a hardcore

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Speaker 5: same text with I think it's way better. It's like

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Speaker 5: I know what.

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Speaker 7: You can't, idiot, he's gotta ship out. And plus this

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Speaker 7: Prabula kid, he's all right?

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Speaker 2: Is that I made pins. Everybody wear go with Bo,

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Speaker 2: that's what we do.

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Speaker 3: There was so much intrigue, it really is.

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Speaker 5: By the way, top shelf backup quarterback name in Bo Probula,

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Speaker 5: Are you kidding me?

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Speaker 3: That is sales on Saturday. Man saved the season on

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Speaker 3: It certainly helped. See, here's the problem. Like Wisconsin had

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Speaker 6: And by the way, I don't hate the fact that

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Speaker 6: offers that change up pitch like that, that feeling of oop.

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Speaker 6: You know, this was what we prepared for, But did

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Speaker 6: I think Colal Nikki, the offensive coordinator, has done a

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Speaker 6: really nice job scripting things this season. This is much

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Speaker 6: and I really do like what he did with it

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Speaker 6: it's many times, you know, Look, you both have watched

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Speaker 2: I've played a lot. I've watched a lot when when.

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Speaker 6: You have a backup who is not made for the

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Speaker 6: herky jerky. When you try to force a square peg

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Speaker 2: And that was not the case.

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Speaker 6: Now here's the concern, And this is something that I've

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Speaker 6: the offense is much better, they have been somewhat slow starters,

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Speaker 6: especially in the first quarter. Ohio State very good starting

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Speaker 6: defense in terms of first half grades, they're tops in

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Speaker 3: the bigger injury for Penn State, not bigger quarterback matters.

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Speaker 5: Well, that to me is and we'll have plenty more

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Speaker 5: how much is Drew Aller gonna play? How effective is he?

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Speaker 2: And then Bo.

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Speaker 5: Prabula Listen, I'm not saying it can't play. I'm just

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Speaker 4: What what is happening?

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Speaker 5: Because Drew Aller, he's the guy. He's just he's a

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Speaker 5: don't know how many points are going to be scored

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Speaker 5: A and M Yes, yeah, and it was a similar total.

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Speaker 5: it was a scoring game too. It was like, yeah,

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Speaker 6: I agree with you, And you know what, honestly, I

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Speaker 2: Oh gosh, I mean like projecting something really close. Shoo.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if ibe Ohio State mission extra earlier.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna blockfield goal return for a touchdown?

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Speaker 2: Remember that? Yoh? I know, so, oh gosh. It's just

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Speaker 2: this coulda be a hard show to deal with. Brian.

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Speaker 3: We apologize, I'm sorry, but we're gonna be insufferable.

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Speaker 2: All right.

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Speaker 4: Sorry.

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Speaker 5: I was prepared. I was absolutely prepared for this. Hey,

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Speaker 5: All right, So we've got IU the Hoosiers taken on

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Speaker 5: how did you make the college football playoff? I was thinking,

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Speaker 5: should we sort of remake the famous Jim Mora rant

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Speaker 4: There's no s.

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Speaker 5: I don't know if there's sticklers for that, but that's

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Speaker 3: It sounds really similar to the old one, it does

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Speaker 4: Now the longer version is even more entertaining.

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Speaker 2: Here we go.

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Speaker 4: This is the college version of the Jim Mora rant.

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Speaker 2: Playoffs.

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Speaker 4: Don't talk about playoff?

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Speaker 2: You kidding me? Playoff? I just hope we can win

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Speaker 2: a game.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, there you go.

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Speaker 2: So maybe that's for I.

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Speaker 5: You know, now, what do you think they get Michigan

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Speaker 6: Hmmm, I mean, right now it feels very much like

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Speaker 6: coming back Michigan State. Look, here's the thing about this game.

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Speaker 6: This is like a classic sandwich game or the trap game.

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Speaker 6: You know, you got better competition coming somewhere in the

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Speaker 2: Holding on to the football.

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Speaker 6: This quarterback has been a turnover machine for them this season,

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Speaker 6: I believe the number is thirteen. Yeah, thirteen of Michigan

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Speaker 2: Google him.

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Speaker 3: Oh I love this guy. I really do love Kurt Signetti.

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Speaker 3: I think I think my answer is binary. Sorry to

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Speaker 3: The number has been sucked out of all value, like

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Speaker 3: Indiana basically coin flip BYU coin flip, Bama coin flip,

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Speaker 3: And I think now we've reached the point where a

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Speaker 3: So they need some things to break their way. I

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Speaker 5: I like the idea of playing the binary card in

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Speaker 3: Binary, I want it, but I don't need it.

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Speaker 4: Yep, that's what it is for the playoff, and when.

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Speaker 2: You a you?

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Speaker 4: We're throwing the pomp poms up.

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Speaker 5: Let's say they get freaking waxed by Ohio State. It's possible,

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Speaker 5: And then you're thinking, ah, right, like I wonder how

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Speaker 5: one ugly loss. I don't know, I don't I know

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Speaker 6: Or even too many close wins, right, you know, So

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Speaker 6: you know, you start doing the tail of the tea. Well,

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Speaker 6: you know you saw what happen when Rourke was coming

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Speaker 6: use that as an excuse, but that was a close

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Speaker 2: Like these things.

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Speaker 6: You know that in Michigan State it didn't turn out

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Speaker 6: I got in uh back to my house sometime at

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Speaker 2: Quick turnaround here.

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Speaker 6: For Wow, for Tricky Dicky Ornberger. Yeah, but I got

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Speaker 6: decided that at the last second the punter barely got

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Speaker 6: the punt off but kicked the ball away, and then

438
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Speaker 6: they successfully went for a second punt, a second fake

439
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Speaker 6: punt in the second half. I mean, this is where

440
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Speaker 6: we're at in college football. It's not just winning football games.

441
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Speaker 6: It's margin of victories. It's it's all like everything's gonna

442
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Speaker 6: be quant and their head coach Danielson, he knows, you know,

443
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Speaker 6: Boise State's a group of five team. They're gonna they're

444
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Speaker 6: gonna try to make as much attention for themselves as possible.

445
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Speaker 6: It's not just about winning anymore. In college football. You

446
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Speaker 6: gotta win pretty, you gotta win big. If you've got

447
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Speaker 6: a stud running back, I don't care if he's got

448
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Speaker 6: an arm injury, like Aschindente has, you got to keep

449
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Speaker 6: him in the game almost till the end of the

450
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Speaker 6: football game.

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Speaker 2: And so I'm using.

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Speaker 6: That as a microcosm to talk about IU at Michigan

453
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Speaker 6: State today, to talk about basically any any team against

454
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Speaker 6: any team this season, you're gonna see some lopsided scoring,

455
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Speaker 6: especially as we get down the home stretch for the

456
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Speaker 6: this football season, because it's not just it's not just winning,

457
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Speaker 6: it's how did you win and what have you done

458
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Speaker 6: for me lately? And all these head coaches are aware

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Speaker 6: of it.

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Speaker 3: That's where the human element of the of the committee matters, right, Like,

461
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Speaker 3: we're not just trying to out smart a computer here

462
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Speaker 3: like a BCS canter back in the day. These are

463
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Speaker 3: human beings that are watching the games. At least I

464
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Speaker 3: think they're human. Who knows these days, they're human beings

465
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Speaker 3: watching the games, trying to grade them, trying to great teams.

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Speaker 2: You have to impress them.

467
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Speaker 3: You have to impress these teams, or you have to

468
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Speaker 3: impress these committee members, and I will be fascinated, fascinated.

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Speaker 3: The only poll I care about next Tuesday is the

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Speaker 3: first college football playoff rankings for field.

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Speaker 2: That's it.

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Speaker 3: I don't want to talk about any other polls on

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Speaker 3: next Tuesday. But here's an interesting part about this year's

474
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Speaker 3: landscape in college football. You want to talk about parody.

475
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Speaker 3: I went back and kind of graded some of the

476
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Speaker 3: teams this year against the great teams of recent history,

477
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Speaker 3: the twenty twenty two Georgia.

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Speaker 4: Bulldogs, the eighty eight Notre Dame Fighters Irish.

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Speaker 3: Right, it's a different game back then, Bryan, I can't

480
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Speaker 3: hate the ratings and make them although they were a

481
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Speaker 3: fantastic ya they were. But that Georgia Bulldogs team from

482
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Speaker 3: twenty two the historic team.

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Speaker 2: Right.

484
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Speaker 3: They blew out TCU in the championship game, Like that

485
00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:02,040
Speaker 3: was one of the biggest blowouts, one of the most

486
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Speaker 3: lopsided college football championship games in history. That team, that

487
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Speaker 3: Georgia team in twenty two, would be a double digit

488
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Speaker 3: favorite against any team in the country today. You name it,

489
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Speaker 3: this year's Georgia Oregon. I'll bet anybody double digit favorite,

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Speaker 3: even the Tennessee Volunteers with Hendon Hooker. They would be

491
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Speaker 3: the number one team in the Power ratings this week.

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Speaker 3: Like that wasn't a historically good Tennessee team. They were

493
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Speaker 3: a great Tennessee team. They had holes great offense. That

494
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Speaker 3: team would be the number one power rated team in

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Speaker 3: the country today. That just shows you how much parody

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Speaker 3: there is in college football. You get really three teams

497
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Speaker 3: that are kind of on a top tier right now,

498
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Speaker 3: Ohio State Georgia, Texas. Oregon's kind of working its way

499
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Speaker 3: into that tier now.

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Speaker 2: But outside of that, I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I just don't know if there's a really great team

502
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Speaker 3: out there that's gonna make a run. So this got

503
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Speaker 3: through a playoff field with twelve teams, who it's gonna

504
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Speaker 3: be fun.

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Speaker 5: Well, I'll just say real fast to Rich's point here

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Speaker 5: about style points. It's funny because there's been a lot

507
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Speaker 5: of talk of, hey, just survive in advance, style points

508
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Speaker 5: really don't matter.

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Speaker 4: There's a twelve team playoff. I think that's true as

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Speaker 4: long as there's a zero in the lost column.

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Speaker 5: Right, if you start to have a one or a

512
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Speaker 5: two in the lost column, best belief, style points could

513
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Speaker 5: absolutely play a huge factor and who gets in the

514
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Speaker 5: playoff who doesn't. So I don't think we've bypassed the

515
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Speaker 5: era of hey, style points don't matter anymore. Like you

516
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Speaker 5: could be in a knockdown dragout and your resume and

517
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Speaker 5: no style points could be the difference whether you get

518
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Speaker 5: in or not.

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Speaker 4: Now you guys also talk.

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Speaker 5: About parody, there is no parody when it comes to

521
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Speaker 5: our guy, Isaac Lohan.

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Speaker 4: Ron Wow, towering above the competition. He's got the latest

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Speaker 4: for us right here? I low, what is going on? Buddy?

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Speaker 8: You know, I'm afraid today I got to pass the

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Speaker 8: baton on this. I got to hand it to my

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Speaker 8: man Rich Hornberger. Plane touches down from Boise twelve fourteen

527
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Speaker 8: am and what five hours and forty six minutes later,

528
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Speaker 8: bright eyed and bushy tailed?

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Speaker 1: How do you do it?

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Speaker 2: I don't coffee. The answer that question is coffee.

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Speaker 6: Copious amounts of the roasted bean juice are at iloh,

532
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Speaker 6: the best well.

533
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Speaker 8: Caffeinated, best performance enhancing substance that is legal. Now, can

534
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Speaker 8: you sleep on planes?

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Speaker 2: You know what?

536
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Speaker 6: I used to not be able to when I was playing,

537
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Speaker 6: And maybe it was the adrenaline. I never could fly.

538
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Speaker 6: I could never sleep on a plane post game. Now

539
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Speaker 6: I sleep like a baby now that I don't have

540
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Speaker 6: anything to worry about, like my body doesn't hurt. I mean,

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Speaker 6: I'm just drooling on myself. So yeah, I got I

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Speaker 6: went ten toes up on that plane.

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Speaker 2: For sure.

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Speaker 8: That's fantastic, because no joke. For me, it's the opposite

545
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Speaker 8: and the reason and why I'm not joking about this

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Speaker 8: is our colleague, Steve Hartman. I used to be able

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Speaker 8: to sleep on planes. I went on one red eye

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Speaker 8: with him to Miami. He talked the whole time. I'm

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Speaker 8: not making this up. Since then, I've never been able

550
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Speaker 8: to sleep on planes.

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Speaker 4: Absolute true.

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Speaker 2: That's a hysterical and very believable.

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Speaker 8: As the rest of you laugh knowingly. Anyway back to

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Speaker 8: you now, I'm just kidding. We'll start with the NBA

555
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Speaker 8: on Friday night as Okloba City improved to five at

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Speaker 8: OH with a one thirty seven one fourteen victory at

557
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Speaker 8: Portland behind thirty by Shay Gildris Alexander just twenty eight minutes.

558
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Speaker 8: Timberwolves over Denver one nineteen to one sixteen. Anthony Edwards

559
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Speaker 8: scored twenty nine, including the game bot shot with twenty

560
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Speaker 8: five point one to play Anthony Davis. This season I

561
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Speaker 8: thirty eight and the Lakers one thirty one one twenty

562
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Speaker 8: five victory at Toronto. There now four and two. Cleveland

563
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Speaker 8: improved to six and OH with a one twenty to

564
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Speaker 8: one oh nine victory over Orlando. Nick's way to get

565
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Speaker 8: Detroit by thirty one twenty eight to ninety eight. Jalen

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Speaker 8: Brunton scored thirty six in thirty one minutes and the

567
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Speaker 8: countdown to the color more cups of coffee, so rich

568
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Speaker 8: will be bright eyed and bushy tailed for this one.

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Speaker 8: Coming up at noon Eastern, Number three Pence State playing

570
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Speaker 8: host to fourth ranked Ohio State. Fellas, All yours, thank.

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Speaker 5: You, I lo it is Fox Sports Radios Countdown to Kickoff,

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Speaker 5: presented by BETMGM.

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Speaker 4: We've got Florida and.

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Speaker 5: Georgia the world's largest outdoor a cocktail party.

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Speaker 4: Are we still calling it that?

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Speaker 3: I have no, We've ruined the names of those.

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Speaker 5: It's really just fantastic matchup though great rivalry. You got

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Speaker 5: the dogs favored by fourteen and a half. Total is

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Speaker 5: fifty two and a half at BEDMGM. What's interesting to me,

580
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Speaker 5: especially with Georgia. I've heard different arguments. There's so much

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Speaker 5: talk during the week and some people will say, hey, man,

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Speaker 5: I think Georgia is just gonna barry Florida, and it's

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Speaker 5: like I could see a path to that, and then

584
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Speaker 5: you'll hear other people say no, no, no, no, no, Now

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Speaker 5: george has been so inconsistent. Carson Beck seems good for

586
00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:03,080
Speaker 5: an interception each game or a couple of turnovers, right.

587
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Speaker 5: I think Florida keeps it close, and especially with Georgia,

588
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Speaker 5: we've seen different versions of Georgia this season. We saw

589
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Speaker 5: two different teams in the same game against Alabama, and

590
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Speaker 5: the last time we saw him, they looked like Georgia

591
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Speaker 5: again against Texas. But you just have to wonder which

592
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Speaker 5: team is going to show up as far as the

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Speaker 5: Dogs are concerned over here.

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Speaker 6: Yeah yeah, And then looking at it from the other side,

595
00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:34,200
Speaker 6: Florida really needs a win against whether it's Georgia here

596
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Speaker 6: the largest outdoor cocktail party, or Texas they head up

597
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Speaker 6: their next or LSU or Ole miss at home. I mean,

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Speaker 6: you win any one of those four games and you

599
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Speaker 6: kind of have to give Napier another shot next season.

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Speaker 6: You know, they'll make themselves bull eligible and if he

601
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Speaker 6: wins multiple I mean then obviously the odds go up

602
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Speaker 6: astronomically and you're you're making some hay in the sec

603
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Speaker 6: which you absolutely have to. And so this is a

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Speaker 6: big matchup. There's a lot on the line for both

605
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Speaker 6: of these teams for obvious reasons.

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Speaker 2: I love it.

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Speaker 6: I love when you have a four and three football

608
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Speaker 6: team facing a Georgia team like this and there's still

609
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Speaker 6: a lot for them to lose too.

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Speaker 2: It's a big one.

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Speaker 3: This is a big one, Yeah, definitely some buzz for

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Speaker 3: the Gators offense.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 3: There were both teams off the buy here, which is

615
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Speaker 3: always intrigued. I love it when both teams get the

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Speaker 3: buy for a rivalry game. It always adds a little

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Speaker 3: bit of intrigue to it. But Florida's coming off a

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Speaker 3: game where they dropped almost a fifty burger on Kentucky,

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Speaker 3: and we've seen Kentucky's defense hold down this Georgia offense before,

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Speaker 3: so I think that was at least interesting that Billy

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Speaker 3: Napier is starting to push the right buttons. He usually

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Speaker 3: has a good game plan. We'll see if they get

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Speaker 3: punched in the mouth and if that game plan changes.

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Speaker 3: DJ Lagway is a freshman quarterback right him and Graham Mertz.

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Speaker 3: So it was Mertz the experienced guy, more of the

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Speaker 3: pocket passer, and he gets banged up and they bring

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Speaker 3: in Lagway. Lagway was already kind of the change up,

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Speaker 3: the freshman, the up and coming kid. It's asking a

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Speaker 3: lot of him in this game to be the guy

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Speaker 3: because I think Florida's O line, which gave up a

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Speaker 3: lot of pressure in that game against Kentucky, They're gonna

632
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Speaker 3: give up a ton of pressure in this game too.

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Speaker 3: We've seen Georgia's defense. Kirby smart has kind of taken

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Speaker 3: the accelerator and he has ratcheted it up. Like he said,

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Speaker 3: after that Texas game, we came to hunt and what

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Speaker 3: you saw from Georgia's defense in that game against Texas

637
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Speaker 3: was against the tendency, which was a little more coverage,

638
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Speaker 3: a little more conservative. They went after that Texas offensive line,

639
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Speaker 3: They got to quinn Ewers, they made him look uncomfortable.

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Speaker 3: I think that's possible here. But the difference is you're

641
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Speaker 3: not facing quinn Ewers today. You're facing DJ Lagway, who

642
00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:52,520
Speaker 3: is boom or bust outside the pocket, creating plays, likes

643
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Speaker 3: to use his legs and then chuck it downfield. Like

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Speaker 3: his average depth of target against Kentucky was twenty two yards,

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Speaker 3: so most of the throws were downfield. I'm curious what

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Speaker 3: Kirby's game plan is today. Do you take the same

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Speaker 3: approach you did against Texas? Do you blitz, do you

648
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Speaker 3: get after the passer, or do you play more conservative

649
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Speaker 3: and try to keep Lagway in the pocket and limit

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Speaker 3: those explosive plays. I think how that decision gets made

651
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Speaker 3: is how I feel about this game. Like if Georgia

652
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Speaker 3: hunts on defense, and their offense is locked in from

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Speaker 3: the start. Beck's been a little up and down. I

654
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Speaker 3: think that's where the blowout comes in. But if they're

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Speaker 3: a little more conservative, they kind of drop back a

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Speaker 3: little bit. I think that's where Florida will have a

657
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Speaker 3: chance to stay in this game.

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Speaker 5: This is, for my money, the best SoundBite of the

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Speaker 5: year so far. Kirby Smart after that win their last

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Speaker 5: game against Texas.

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Speaker 4: Here's what he had to say.

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Speaker 9: What was our intent when we walked on the field,

663
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Speaker 9: arn tim was not to take pictures, not to do

664
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Speaker 9: all the superstar stuff. Arn tell arent tent was to eat.

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00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:53,080
Speaker 9: Barn tent was to come eat and be hungry.

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Speaker 4: Our intent was to come eat. I love that.

667
00:33:57,040 --> 00:33:58,680
Speaker 5: I would hug that sound bite it if I could,

668
00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:01,360
Speaker 5: if that was such a thing. Uh do you talk

669
00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:05,480
Speaker 5: about coming to eat for Florida? It's their upcoming schedule.

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00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:07,400
Speaker 5: Have you seen their next four games?

671
00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:09,160
Speaker 2: Yeah? Rough it? Oh my lord?

672
00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:15,480
Speaker 5: All against opponents Georgia, Texas, LSU, will miss.

673
00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:17,680
Speaker 2: They gotta win one. They gotta win one.

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Speaker 5: I don't think they're winning any You know what it

675
00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:22,040
Speaker 5: makes me think of It makes me think of our

676
00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:25,520
Speaker 5: guy Bill Krakenberger, he might say what so he's on

677
00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:29,040
Speaker 5: countdown to kick off on Sundays Sports Handicapper, and his

678
00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:32,120
Speaker 5: famous saying is, so you want to be a gambler

679
00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:35,200
Speaker 5: that He'll always throw it out there where you had

680
00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:39,000
Speaker 5: a painful loss or there's just a crazy outcome of

681
00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:41,160
Speaker 5: a game, and so you want to be a gambler.

682
00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:43,719
Speaker 5: I think with Florida it's like, so you want to

683
00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:46,080
Speaker 5: play in the SCS.

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00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:48,480
Speaker 3: You know what I mean, their scheduled Oklahoma through they're

685
00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:49,279
Speaker 3: going through it right now.

686
00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:54,120
Speaker 5: Oklahoma's got a rough rough sketule one went away, one

687
00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:56,200
Speaker 5: loss away, I should say, Jared from catching that t.

688
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Speaker 3: Yeah, we're gonna hit that under seven and a half.

689
00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:00,520
Speaker 3: I think our producer Bo Benson's on the other side

690
00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:02,920
Speaker 3: of that one. Yeah, he doesn't like us, but that's

691
00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:08,600
Speaker 3: a Dodgers won the World Series. So sorry, simple, I.

692
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Speaker 6: Mean, can you really see an opportunity or way for

693
00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:17,480
Speaker 6: Lagway to be a Kirby smart defense who doesn't want

694
00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:20,399
Speaker 6: to take pictures, who wants to eat, who's come to eat?

695
00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:22,520
Speaker 2: I mean, I I just don't. I just don't.

696
00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:24,600
Speaker 6: And so I don't think this is where they get

697
00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:28,920
Speaker 6: a w within that next four game hellacious stretch for Florida.

698
00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:31,600
Speaker 6: I think this is gonna be one of the hungriest

699
00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:34,919
Speaker 6: dogs team that they're facing after getting a big win.

700
00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:37,719
Speaker 6: I don't think there's gonna be a halo effect where

701
00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:41,239
Speaker 6: they're over celebrating the victory. I think that I think

702
00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:44,279
Speaker 6: that he's done a nice job with the ethos of

703
00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:48,799
Speaker 6: this team, getting them ready for each competition. This is

704
00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:52,839
Speaker 6: this is an enormous opportunity for Georgia to stay one

705
00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:56,200
Speaker 6: loss on the year, and this is to me an

706
00:35:56,320 --> 00:36:02,360
Speaker 6: overwhelming obstacle for Florida here after after coming out to

707
00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:05,680
Speaker 6: a less than fortune to start so far this season.

708
00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:08,600
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, that's the tough thing, man is George's use

709
00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:09,319
Speaker 5: their mull again.

710
00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:11,279
Speaker 4: They can't lose again, thank you.

711
00:36:11,320 --> 00:36:13,719
Speaker 5: So you think maybe an emotional let down, There are

712
00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:16,640
Speaker 5: no emotional letdowns from here on now. You gotta stay

713
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Speaker 5: perfect to make sure you get into the playoff. We've

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Speaker 5: got Rich Orenberger, Ben State All American, Jared Smith FSR

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Speaker 5: betting analyst. I'm Brian no coming up next, the parlay

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Speaker 5: platter with a little.

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Speaker 4: Bit of a twist. I hear, okay, we'll unveil that next.

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Speaker 4: All right, let's do this.

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Speaker 1: Check this out far late letter.

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Speaker 4: Okay, the platter here, it's interactive.

728
00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:04,960
Speaker 3: Huh.

729
00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:10,960
Speaker 5: Each of us has an outright dog to win the game,

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Speaker 5: and we put everything together for a bigger payout.

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Speaker 4: So we start with you, Jared, what are you thinking

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Speaker 4: here today?

733
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Speaker 3: Well, life on the road is tough in the sec right,

734
00:37:21,160 --> 00:37:23,200
Speaker 3: ole Miss big game today. We're gonna talk about it

735
00:37:23,239 --> 00:37:25,359
Speaker 3: later at some point. Well, let's talk about it now, right,

736
00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:28,920
Speaker 3: ole Miss at Arkansas. I think Arkansas is very live here.

737
00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:32,640
Speaker 3: They're about a touchdown plus underdog. But the key matchup

738
00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:36,680
Speaker 3: to watch it's Arkansas's offensive line against ole miss defensive line.

739
00:37:36,719 --> 00:37:40,120
Speaker 3: That's the scary part, I think, because ole Miss can

740
00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:42,399
Speaker 3: really defend. But on the other side, I don't really

741
00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:44,680
Speaker 3: believe in this ole miss offense. I think they feasted

742
00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:46,839
Speaker 3: off bad competition the first few weeks of the year.

743
00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:50,120
Speaker 3: In SEC play, they're averaging just twenty four points per game.

744
00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:53,279
Speaker 3: And I think on the road, Arkansas's defense, which is

745
00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:56,440
Speaker 3: kind of this havoc defense with Travis Williams defensive coordinator,

746
00:37:56,440 --> 00:37:58,960
Speaker 3: he's a schemer. I think they're gonna do enough to

747
00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:01,879
Speaker 3: keep the haw in this game. And Taylor Green make

748
00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:04,520
Speaker 3: just one or two plays outside the pocket, and I

749
00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:05,919
Speaker 3: think Arkansas very live today.

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Speaker 2: Plus two forty on the money line.

751
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Speaker 5: Interesting, Okay, I'm gonna go with the other dogs.

752
00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:16,320
Speaker 4: That's that, right, Like the Washington Huskies.

753
00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:16,759
Speaker 2: Right.

754
00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:18,799
Speaker 4: I think of Georgia the dogs, but these are the

755
00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:19,440
Speaker 4: other dogs.

756
00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:19,880
Speaker 2: Huh.

757
00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:22,520
Speaker 5: But I think they're just a better team than USC.

758
00:38:23,560 --> 00:38:27,239
Speaker 5: USC has not impressed me as much as Washington has.

759
00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:29,359
Speaker 4: I think this better spot. I think it's just a

760
00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:30,160
Speaker 4: better spot.

761
00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:33,960
Speaker 5: Washington finally coming home, had a couple of tough losses

762
00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:37,800
Speaker 5: on the road. But I just think that this running attack,

763
00:38:38,520 --> 00:38:42,600
Speaker 5: I think defensively they're better. So I'll take Washington. I

764
00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:44,640
Speaker 5: think they're more than live at home against USC.

765
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Speaker 6: And it all comes down to this Ohio State at

766
00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:54,480
Speaker 6: Happy Valley taking on the home dogs Penn State Nitney

767
00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:55,440
Speaker 6: lyons Loo.

768
00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:58,280
Speaker 2: If we're building a parlay, but let's make a stew.

769
00:38:58,400 --> 00:39:02,880
Speaker 6: So Penn State hasn't beaten their heated rivals Ohio State

770
00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:06,200
Speaker 6: since twenty sixteen. That was back when Urban Meyer was

771
00:39:06,200 --> 00:39:09,880
Speaker 6: still on campus. James Franklin at this ingredient to the stew,

772
00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:13,359
Speaker 6: He's been winless against Ryan Day. This game has been

773
00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:16,640
Speaker 6: circled for a long time. At this ingredient to the stew,

774
00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:22,040
Speaker 6: we got serious Penn State aspirations for a national championship?

775
00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:26,000
Speaker 2: Are you kidding me? James Franklin. During his tenure as

776
00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:27,960
Speaker 2: a head coach at Penn.

777
00:39:27,680 --> 00:39:31,560
Speaker 6: State, he's gone four and sixteen against Michigan and Ohio State.

778
00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:35,600
Speaker 2: The tread stops here, gentlemen. We've got a.

779
00:39:35,560 --> 00:39:40,120
Speaker 6: Penn State victory at home, defending the turf at Beaver Stadium.

780
00:39:40,520 --> 00:39:42,839
Speaker 2: Let's go what are the odds on our parlay we've

781
00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:44,279
Speaker 2: just built. Jared, I'm out of breath.

782
00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:49,080
Speaker 3: Sixteen to one plus fifteen seventy seven to be exact,

783
00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:52,879
Speaker 3: but let's round up sixteen to one over at bet

784
00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:56,279
Speaker 3: MGM ten States plus one thirty five arcis plus two

785
00:39:56,400 --> 00:39:59,840
Speaker 3: forty and the dogs are Washington, which I really like.

786
00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:01,680
Speaker 3: Play a lot plus one ten?

787
00:40:02,239 --> 00:40:04,400
Speaker 5: Is that why I think it should be more like

788
00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:06,920
Speaker 5: feels like it. Washington's plus two and a half on

789
00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:08,560
Speaker 5: the money line, there's just plus one ten.

790
00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:13,080
Speaker 3: Uh yeah, there, they can kind of make it. They

791
00:40:13,160 --> 00:40:16,040
Speaker 3: kind of slant those because you know, it's hard to

792
00:40:16,040 --> 00:40:18,480
Speaker 3: win by one or two in college for bombed those

793
00:40:18,600 --> 00:40:19,719
Speaker 3: bomb All.

794
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Speaker 5: Right, come it up next, Styles make fights in this one.

795
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Speaker 5: Welcome in, Happy Saturday to you. Less than two hours

796
00:40:28,600 --> 00:40:32,239
Speaker 5: away from kickoff over here, getting you all set. How

797
00:40:32,239 --> 00:40:36,080
Speaker 5: about the number one team in the nation, Oregon take

798
00:40:36,080 --> 00:40:40,799
Speaker 5: it on Michigan. That said, let's see right now at

799
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Speaker 5: bet mgm Oregon favored by fourteen and a half totals

800
00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:48,520
Speaker 5: forty four and a half. Listen, this isn't last year's

801
00:40:48,560 --> 00:40:54,320
Speaker 5: Michigan team. But if you look at Oregon their run defense,

802
00:40:54,920 --> 00:40:58,680
Speaker 5: it's not anything special. Some of the numbers are skewed

803
00:40:58,719 --> 00:41:03,000
Speaker 5: a little bit because Astony went ballistic against the Ducks,

804
00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:06,880
Speaker 5: but they haven't been special throughout the season. It's not

805
00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:10,399
Speaker 5: just because of that Boise State loss. And if you're

806
00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:13,280
Speaker 5: looking at Michigan, that's what they do. They run the ball.

807
00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:17,359
Speaker 5: So if this is a styles make fights, styles make

808
00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:20,399
Speaker 5: fights type thing, which it always is. If you look

809
00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:22,000
Speaker 5: at Michigan and what they want to do, they want

810
00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:25,960
Speaker 5: to pound the rock and Oregon not great in the

811
00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:29,680
Speaker 5: trenches and stopping the runs. So if they can move

812
00:41:29,719 --> 00:41:33,000
Speaker 5: the ball effectively on the ground, maybe shorten the game.

813
00:41:33,520 --> 00:41:35,879
Speaker 5: The thing with Michigan they allow a lot of explosive

814
00:41:36,040 --> 00:41:40,160
Speaker 5: passing plays and that's not great either if you're facing Oregon.

815
00:41:40,320 --> 00:41:42,839
Speaker 5: So maybe both teams move the ball a little bit

816
00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:45,399
Speaker 5: more than expected. Here total is only at forty four

817
00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:47,839
Speaker 5: and a half, So I would keep all that in

818
00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:50,160
Speaker 5: mind if you're thinking about an under which could be

819
00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:53,440
Speaker 5: man white knuckle time, if you're thinking about going down

820
00:41:53,520 --> 00:41:54,719
Speaker 5: that road, boy.

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00:41:54,600 --> 00:41:57,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, you use the game that I was thinking of.

822
00:41:57,320 --> 00:41:59,799
Speaker 6: And maybe it's recency biased because I was just on

823
00:41:59,840 --> 00:42:03,200
Speaker 6: the broadcast up in Boise Hi to Go, Idaho just

824
00:42:03,320 --> 00:42:07,520
Speaker 6: hours ago, and so I was thinking about that game. Also,

825
00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:11,200
Speaker 6: you know, to think what's the best comp here in

826
00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:15,680
Speaker 6: terms of Oregon competition, And that makes sense. Now, Look,

827
00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:19,560
Speaker 6: they've beat three ranked teams. Boise State's ranked and for

828
00:42:19,600 --> 00:42:23,520
Speaker 6: a reason they're very good, not only with that rushing offense,

829
00:42:23,560 --> 00:42:25,760
Speaker 6: but They've got a pretty fierce defense as well.

830
00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:27,680
Speaker 2: You look at Ohio State.

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Speaker 6: I mean that goes without saying why that's an impressive victory.

832
00:42:30,600 --> 00:42:34,520
Speaker 2: And also Illinois. You know, this is a.

833
00:42:34,520 --> 00:42:39,400
Speaker 6: Road matchup for Oregon at Michigan, the big house Michigan,

834
00:42:39,560 --> 00:42:42,799
Speaker 6: even though they're a hollowed out husk of what they

835
00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:46,000
Speaker 6: were a year ago as national champions, they still have

836
00:42:46,040 --> 00:42:49,800
Speaker 6: an elite defense and a pretty strong and fierce rushing attack.

837
00:42:51,200 --> 00:42:53,799
Speaker 2: When you really think about that, you say, wow, they're

838
00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:56,120
Speaker 2: a hollowed out husk. Rich Well, think about it. They

839
00:42:56,160 --> 00:42:57,720
Speaker 2: have three losses this season.

840
00:42:58,120 --> 00:43:01,160
Speaker 6: Okay, Michigan has three losses this season, and they've had

841
00:43:01,239 --> 00:43:04,640
Speaker 6: three losses over the past three years. If you think

842
00:43:04,680 --> 00:43:07,160
Speaker 6: about what the Wolverines did with Jim Harbaugh, two of

843
00:43:07,200 --> 00:43:10,480
Speaker 6: those losses came in the postseason. They came in the playoff.

844
00:43:10,840 --> 00:43:13,840
Speaker 6: This has been such a dominant team in the Big

845
00:43:13,880 --> 00:43:17,440
Speaker 6: Ten that they look so vastly different than they have

846
00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:20,000
Speaker 6: over the years. But look, even though they're not what

847
00:43:20,040 --> 00:43:22,520
Speaker 6: they used to be, they're still just as good as

848
00:43:22,520 --> 00:43:24,799
Speaker 6: they I don't know that. I don't know if the lyric.

849
00:43:24,840 --> 00:43:26,439
Speaker 6: You know, I'm not a country music fan. The point

850
00:43:26,440 --> 00:43:28,920
Speaker 6: I'm trying to make though, is they aren't. They aren't

851
00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:32,120
Speaker 6: the Michigan team of last year, the national champions, but

852
00:43:32,200 --> 00:43:36,320
Speaker 6: they are still a dangerous dog here at home defending

853
00:43:36,360 --> 00:43:39,319
Speaker 6: their turf. So this is this is a tricky game

854
00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:43,719
Speaker 6: for Oregon. I I don't I don't, man, I don't

855
00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:46,319
Speaker 6: love the spot for Oregon. I gotta be honest with you.

856
00:43:47,239 --> 00:43:50,000
Speaker 3: I ain't as good as I once was, but I'm

857
00:43:50,040 --> 00:43:51,320
Speaker 3: as good once as I ever was.

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00:43:51,440 --> 00:43:53,120
Speaker 2: See that's what I was looking for. You made it

859
00:43:53,120 --> 00:43:56,120
Speaker 2: sound so cool it is, Toby ke.

860
00:43:56,360 --> 00:44:00,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a great song. This isn't intriguing game. So

861
00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:03,760
Speaker 3: this is the third time in the last forty years

862
00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:09,360
Speaker 3: that a defending national champion is a double digit home underdog.

863
00:44:09,640 --> 00:44:10,000
Speaker 2: Wow.

864
00:44:10,080 --> 00:44:15,200
Speaker 3: The previous two times that reigning national champion has lost

865
00:44:15,239 --> 00:44:18,800
Speaker 3: by four plus touchdowns twenty eight plus. They failed to

866
00:44:18,840 --> 00:44:19,640
Speaker 3: cover both games.

867
00:44:19,800 --> 00:44:20,200
Speaker 2: Wow.

868
00:44:20,239 --> 00:44:23,759
Speaker 3: So it just it speaks to the way the pendulum

869
00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:27,799
Speaker 3: swings back and forth. See the thing about Oregon with

870
00:44:27,840 --> 00:44:31,440
Speaker 3: these big spreads, we talk about style points. Oregon is

871
00:44:31,440 --> 00:44:34,640
Speaker 3: the one team that does not need style points. They're undefeated,

872
00:44:35,280 --> 00:44:38,759
Speaker 3: they have their big signature win, they have no I

873
00:44:38,760 --> 00:44:41,560
Speaker 3: don't want to say important games, but no real high

874
00:44:41,680 --> 00:44:44,319
Speaker 3: leverage games left on their regular season schedule. It's all

875
00:44:44,360 --> 00:44:46,759
Speaker 3: big ten cupcakes for the most part, a couple of

876
00:44:46,840 --> 00:44:48,480
Speaker 3: road games mixed in there. Right, you gotta go on

877
00:44:48,520 --> 00:44:50,080
Speaker 3: the road to these new environments. We'll see how they

878
00:44:50,080 --> 00:44:53,279
Speaker 3: handle that. But all they need to do is win.

879
00:44:53,400 --> 00:44:56,759
Speaker 3: All we do is win, win, win. They don't need

880
00:44:56,800 --> 00:44:59,000
Speaker 3: to win by forty, they don't even need to win

881
00:44:59,040 --> 00:45:01,120
Speaker 3: by two touchdowns lost to cover this spread.

882
00:45:01,600 --> 00:45:01,919
Speaker 2: Just win.

883
00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:05,640
Speaker 3: As long as they are undefeated, there is no chance

884
00:45:05,680 --> 00:45:08,280
Speaker 3: that they are not going to be in the culturable playoff.

885
00:45:08,320 --> 00:45:09,879
Speaker 3: And I would be willing to bet they're the number

886
00:45:09,880 --> 00:45:13,799
Speaker 3: one team in the CFP rankings come next week. Maybe not,

887
00:45:13,840 --> 00:45:16,880
Speaker 3: we'll see see how they play today. But you know,

888
00:45:17,400 --> 00:45:20,280
Speaker 3: and last week's game is the perfect example. Right against Illinois.

889
00:45:20,280 --> 00:45:23,600
Speaker 3: They're up thirty two at the half, and you think they're.

890
00:45:23,400 --> 00:45:24,360
Speaker 2: Gonna cover easily.

891
00:45:24,800 --> 00:45:27,040
Speaker 3: Well, they get out scored six to three in the

892
00:45:27,080 --> 00:45:29,160
Speaker 3: second half, and Illinois has a drive late to try

893
00:45:29,200 --> 00:45:32,560
Speaker 3: to get within the number. So I don't want to

894
00:45:32,640 --> 00:45:34,960
Speaker 3: lay these big numbers with teams that have no motivation

895
00:45:35,120 --> 00:45:38,440
Speaker 3: to win with margin. But man, this Michigan defense, if

896
00:45:38,440 --> 00:45:40,959
Speaker 3: you want to talk about a unit that is trending down,

897
00:45:41,920 --> 00:45:44,880
Speaker 3: like all of the pieces are there from last year

898
00:45:45,360 --> 00:45:48,400
Speaker 3: and you go from you know, I would say a

899
00:45:48,600 --> 00:45:53,320
Speaker 3: more established system to Wink Martindale and now they're outside

900
00:45:53,360 --> 00:45:56,120
Speaker 3: the top twenty in pretty much every metric. Like that's

901
00:45:56,160 --> 00:45:58,920
Speaker 3: a big drop off to go from number one to

902
00:45:59,000 --> 00:46:01,960
Speaker 3: now you're not even a top twenty defense and you've

903
00:46:01,960 --> 00:46:07,680
Speaker 3: got the same personnel. So how does Michigan handle these?

904
00:46:07,880 --> 00:46:11,239
Speaker 3: You know, I would say multiple offenses, Like Oregon can

905
00:46:11,320 --> 00:46:13,200
Speaker 3: run it, they can throw it, they can throw it

906
00:46:13,239 --> 00:46:14,600
Speaker 3: on the run, they can run it on the first

907
00:46:14,640 --> 00:46:16,839
Speaker 3: like they can do everything. And I don't know how

908
00:46:16,840 --> 00:46:19,560
Speaker 3: Michigan defends this today. But I also don't feel like

909
00:46:19,600 --> 00:46:22,600
Speaker 3: Oregon cares to win with margins, So really this is

910
00:46:22,600 --> 00:46:24,680
Speaker 3: probably a better live betting game, right, Like if Oregon

911
00:46:24,680 --> 00:46:27,080
Speaker 3: gets off to a fast start, I could see it snowballing,

912
00:46:27,600 --> 00:46:30,319
Speaker 3: but I don't know. I don't want to lay more

913
00:46:30,360 --> 00:46:32,920
Speaker 3: than two touchdowns before before the game starts.

914
00:46:34,200 --> 00:46:37,680
Speaker 5: How about Louisville at Clemson And I'll blend the previous

915
00:46:37,719 --> 00:46:40,840
Speaker 5: game with this one as well, because could you see

916
00:46:40,880 --> 00:46:44,600
Speaker 5: some similarities between Michigan where they were last year where

917
00:46:44,600 --> 00:46:48,520
Speaker 5: they are now and Clemson where they were a handful

918
00:46:48,520 --> 00:46:51,360
Speaker 5: of years ago winning championships where they are right now,

919
00:46:51,600 --> 00:46:53,680
Speaker 5: right like it comes at you fast.

920
00:46:53,680 --> 00:46:56,680
Speaker 4: It's hard to maintain excellence.

921
00:46:56,600 --> 00:46:59,040
Speaker 5: As we're seeing with Michigan this year, as we've seen

922
00:46:59,080 --> 00:47:02,480
Speaker 5: from Clemson certainly last season. Now, the good news with Clemson,

923
00:47:03,200 --> 00:47:06,719
Speaker 5: they've won six straight. They got bold dozed in the

924
00:47:06,760 --> 00:47:10,040
Speaker 5: second half in the opener against Georgia, and they've rattled

925
00:47:10,120 --> 00:47:13,200
Speaker 5: off six straight wins. The fine print is they've played

926
00:47:13,520 --> 00:47:18,960
Speaker 5: nobody during those six wins, No One. And so Louisville

927
00:47:19,040 --> 00:47:22,920
Speaker 5: coming in, who's battle tested? Louisville's schedule, good lord. Some

928
00:47:22,960 --> 00:47:26,799
Speaker 5: of these teams that they've played, Miami, Notre Dame to

929
00:47:26,880 --> 00:47:30,040
Speaker 5: name a few, they've played a much tougher schedule. So

930
00:47:30,400 --> 00:47:33,160
Speaker 5: you might look and see the pretty ranking next to

931
00:47:33,239 --> 00:47:37,400
Speaker 5: Clemson like, oh, number eleven, Well, Louisville unranked two, Louisville

932
00:47:37,400 --> 00:47:39,839
Speaker 5: five and three, Clemson six and one.

933
00:47:40,280 --> 00:47:40,440
Speaker 2: Bad.

934
00:47:41,040 --> 00:47:43,719
Speaker 4: You gotta look at the resumes.

935
00:47:43,880 --> 00:47:46,719
Speaker 5: I feel like here and one thing to keep in mind,

936
00:47:46,760 --> 00:47:50,239
Speaker 5: Clemson's defensive line hasn't been very good. And when you

937
00:47:50,280 --> 00:47:53,800
Speaker 5: look at a recipe for at least keeping it close

938
00:47:54,480 --> 00:47:57,120
Speaker 5: and maybe keeping it close enough to threaten for an

939
00:47:57,120 --> 00:48:00,919
Speaker 5: outright road win. It's if the the home team isn't

940
00:48:00,920 --> 00:48:04,400
Speaker 5: great in the trenches, and that defensive line of Clemson,

941
00:48:04,520 --> 00:48:08,200
Speaker 5: it's certainly not what it once was good what you

942
00:48:08,239 --> 00:48:12,160
Speaker 5: guys referenced earlier, right, it's not it just is it

943
00:48:12,280 --> 00:48:16,200
Speaker 5: they used to dominate. It's littered with Clemson defensive linemen

944
00:48:16,640 --> 00:48:21,000
Speaker 5: in the NFL right now and that's just not where

945
00:48:21,040 --> 00:48:25,279
Speaker 5: they are at this current state. And Louisville they can

946
00:48:25,360 --> 00:48:30,160
Speaker 5: run the rock. Their offense is is an offense that

947
00:48:30,239 --> 00:48:33,040
Speaker 5: can keep them in this I feel like. And if

948
00:48:33,080 --> 00:48:36,160
Speaker 5: you look at the points spread, Clemson favored by ten

949
00:48:36,200 --> 00:48:40,160
Speaker 5: and a half, it's tricky when they're kind of begging

950
00:48:40,200 --> 00:48:43,320
Speaker 5: you to take the points. I think taking the points

951
00:48:43,560 --> 00:48:45,000
Speaker 5: is the right side in this one.

952
00:48:45,440 --> 00:48:50,719
Speaker 6: Clemson has a great opportunity here to prove some legitimacy.

953
00:48:51,040 --> 00:48:54,640
Speaker 6: After getting rolled out the gates earlier this season, they've

954
00:48:54,680 --> 00:48:57,839
Speaker 6: recovered well, but who are they? You know, you beat

955
00:48:57,880 --> 00:49:01,239
Speaker 6: Louisville and if you beat them commenced going away like

956
00:49:01,280 --> 00:49:04,399
Speaker 6: this is that would go a long way to prove

957
00:49:04,440 --> 00:49:05,319
Speaker 6: that legitimacy.

958
00:49:05,320 --> 00:49:09,960
Speaker 2: I was talking about club Nick. He's really improved.

959
00:49:10,239 --> 00:49:13,920
Speaker 6: If you think about last season to this season, his

960
00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:17,640
Speaker 6: footwork looks better, he looks sturdier in the pocket. He's

961
00:49:17,640 --> 00:49:19,640
Speaker 6: attacking the deep part of the field better than he

962
00:49:19,800 --> 00:49:23,040
Speaker 6: was a year ago. I'm impressed with him because that's

963
00:49:23,080 --> 00:49:24,719
Speaker 6: what you hope for as a head coach. As a

964
00:49:24,760 --> 00:49:28,600
Speaker 6: head football coacherre looking for, especially a player in a

965
00:49:28,600 --> 00:49:32,239
Speaker 6: position that important to your team's success, to improve, and

966
00:49:32,280 --> 00:49:36,560
Speaker 6: he has and Louville to Clemson's benefit, that's been a

967
00:49:36,560 --> 00:49:39,920
Speaker 6: struggle for them. They are a low graded team against

968
00:49:39,920 --> 00:49:42,359
Speaker 6: passes beyond ten yards of the line of scrimmage. They

969
00:49:42,400 --> 00:49:45,960
Speaker 6: struggle against the vertical pass, and that's something that Clubnicks

970
00:49:45,960 --> 00:49:47,400
Speaker 6: has gotten a lot better with.

971
00:49:48,200 --> 00:49:49,200
Speaker 2: Since last season.

972
00:49:50,000 --> 00:49:54,600
Speaker 6: So I'm interested in seeing Clemson stretch the field a

973
00:49:54,640 --> 00:49:58,160
Speaker 6: little bit here against the Cardinals. I think they can.

974
00:49:58,360 --> 00:50:01,240
Speaker 6: I think they will get to that early in this game.

975
00:50:01,760 --> 00:50:04,640
Speaker 6: And do I expect it to be a blowout victory. No,

976
00:50:04,760 --> 00:50:07,160
Speaker 6: But do I expect it to be a victory that

977
00:50:07,640 --> 00:50:11,839
Speaker 6: lends some legitimacy to a season that much of the

978
00:50:11,880 --> 00:50:14,320
Speaker 6: steam was lost early on because.

979
00:50:14,080 --> 00:50:15,960
Speaker 2: Of a blowout loss. Yeah, I do.

980
00:50:16,040 --> 00:50:19,239
Speaker 6: I think this could really help the Tigers regain some

981
00:50:19,400 --> 00:50:22,560
Speaker 6: of the national attention here as the season rolls on.

982
00:50:23,080 --> 00:50:26,200
Speaker 3: I really like that breakdown rich and I'll echo some

983
00:50:26,239 --> 00:50:29,040
Speaker 3: of that. I just pulled up Club Nicks Pro Football

984
00:50:29,080 --> 00:50:36,200
Speaker 3: Focus report. Big improvements, like massive, massive efficiency improvements. I mean,

985
00:50:36,400 --> 00:50:40,040
Speaker 3: nineteen touchdowns, nine picks last year, which is like average,

986
00:50:40,880 --> 00:50:44,080
Speaker 3: nineteen turnover worthy throws last year, which is I would

987
00:50:44,120 --> 00:50:47,400
Speaker 3: say slightly below average. This year, twenty touchdowns, three picks,

988
00:50:48,400 --> 00:50:51,719
Speaker 3: five turnover worthy plays. Like that, turnover worthy play rate

989
00:50:51,880 --> 00:50:56,200
Speaker 3: is down to two percent, which is very good. And

990
00:50:56,239 --> 00:51:00,480
Speaker 3: to your point, both of these defenses actually struggle a

991
00:51:00,520 --> 00:51:03,200
Speaker 3: little bit with giving up the explosive I was surprised

992
00:51:03,200 --> 00:51:07,399
Speaker 3: to see Clemson's name outside the top fifty in explosive

993
00:51:07,560 --> 00:51:10,799
Speaker 3: pass rate allowed. Louisville is kind of a boomer bust

994
00:51:10,880 --> 00:51:13,680
Speaker 3: offense boomer bust defense, so I expected them to be

995
00:51:14,160 --> 00:51:17,360
Speaker 3: outside the top fifty in that category. Louisville is really

996
00:51:17,800 --> 00:51:21,319
Speaker 3: really efficient at throwing it deep. That's going to be

997
00:51:21,400 --> 00:51:25,880
Speaker 3: the interesting change up in this game, Dabbo, How do

998
00:51:25,960 --> 00:51:28,759
Speaker 3: you eliminate explosive passes? Well, you have to get after

999
00:51:28,760 --> 00:51:30,759
Speaker 3: the quarterback, and they're not as a depth at doing

1000
00:51:30,800 --> 00:51:34,000
Speaker 3: that this year. This Louisville offense, I mean, it's really good,

1001
00:51:34,040 --> 00:51:36,000
Speaker 3: like they could hang with this Clempson offense. I think

1002
00:51:36,040 --> 00:51:40,239
Speaker 3: the question is can the Louisville defense kind of bow

1003
00:51:40,320 --> 00:51:43,560
Speaker 3: their necks against a very physical Clemson front. Here's the

1004
00:51:43,719 --> 00:51:46,000
Speaker 3: edge for Clemson in this game. They're off the by

1005
00:51:46,440 --> 00:51:49,439
Speaker 3: Louisville played last Friday, so they get one extra day,

1006
00:51:49,960 --> 00:51:53,279
Speaker 3: but they are not They get a lot significantly less

1007
00:51:53,320 --> 00:51:56,239
Speaker 3: rest in this game than Clemson does. So I think

1008
00:51:56,239 --> 00:51:58,560
Speaker 3: Clemson wins. But I did take eleven and a half

1009
00:51:58,640 --> 00:52:01,160
Speaker 3: earlier in the week with Louisville. It's down to ten

1010
00:52:01,239 --> 00:52:03,560
Speaker 3: and a half now. I think Louisville is the right

1011
00:52:03,600 --> 00:52:06,720
Speaker 3: bet to make, but I don't know if they're alive.

1012
00:52:07,040 --> 00:52:08,759
Speaker 3: Like I feel like Clemson's gonna do what they did

1013
00:52:08,880 --> 00:52:10,840
Speaker 3: last week against Virginia, which is get out to a

1014
00:52:10,840 --> 00:52:13,600
Speaker 3: big lead and then kind of just you know, take

1015
00:52:13,600 --> 00:52:15,960
Speaker 3: their foot off the gas, and I think Louisville will

1016
00:52:15,960 --> 00:52:17,240
Speaker 3: have a chance to get in the number.

1017
00:52:17,600 --> 00:52:22,320
Speaker 5: Yeah, I still think right when you're about to back Louisville,

1018
00:52:22,880 --> 00:52:26,120
Speaker 5: I just think about Miami's offense hot knife through butter,

1019
00:52:26,320 --> 00:52:28,120
Speaker 5: you know what I mean, and it's like, oh gosh,

1020
00:52:28,320 --> 00:52:31,600
Speaker 5: you have flashbacks to that. But I still think that

1021
00:52:31,640 --> 00:52:34,680
Speaker 5: this Louisville offense, as you laid out Jared it's talented

1022
00:52:34,840 --> 00:52:38,920
Speaker 5: enough and productive enough where when you're talking about covering

1023
00:52:39,360 --> 00:52:42,080
Speaker 5: even a ten and a half point spread, you start

1024
00:52:42,120 --> 00:52:46,040
Speaker 5: playing that game where you know Louisville even just kicking

1025
00:52:46,040 --> 00:52:49,640
Speaker 5: a field goal can make life really difficult covering a

1026
00:52:49,719 --> 00:52:53,279
Speaker 5: number that big, even in college football. And so I

1027
00:52:53,280 --> 00:52:56,440
Speaker 5: think Louisville's gonna score some points. Yeah, I think that's

1028
00:52:56,480 --> 00:52:57,280
Speaker 5: the right side.

1029
00:52:57,320 --> 00:52:57,640
Speaker 2: All right.

1030
00:52:57,640 --> 00:53:02,120
Speaker 5: We've got Jared Smith FSR betting analyst, Rich Ornberger Penn State,

1031
00:53:02,160 --> 00:53:06,200
Speaker 5: All American. I'm Brian no uh coming up next our

1032
00:53:06,280 --> 00:53:10,480
Speaker 5: main man, Seamus McGee huh from BEDMGM. He'll get you

1033
00:53:10,560 --> 00:53:13,480
Speaker 5: all the insights. We'll throw a couple of games at him.

1034
00:53:13,520 --> 00:53:16,560
Speaker 5: He'll have a shamous special as he always does.

1035
00:53:16,800 --> 00:53:18,120
Speaker 4: It's uh minus.

1036
00:53:18,480 --> 00:53:20,799
Speaker 5: I'll put it at three point fifty that it's an

1037
00:53:20,880 --> 00:53:21,759
Speaker 5: FCS game.

1038
00:53:21,960 --> 00:53:24,000
Speaker 3: A lot of FCS games today on my card.

1039
00:53:23,960 --> 00:53:28,480
Speaker 4: A lot really Okay, round robin against Oklahoma.

1040
00:53:28,480 --> 00:53:29,279
Speaker 3: Any interest there?

1041
00:53:30,400 --> 00:53:30,960
Speaker 2: Go, main.

1042
00:53:33,160 --> 00:53:35,400
Speaker 3: Main, pull off this upset for us, get this localholla

1043
00:53:35,440 --> 00:53:36,440
Speaker 3: win by we'll be today.

1044
00:53:36,440 --> 00:53:37,239
Speaker 2: Would that be great?

1045
00:53:37,280 --> 00:53:38,279
Speaker 4: That'd be fantastic.

1046
00:53:38,560 --> 00:53:38,880
Speaker 2: All right.

1047
00:53:38,920 --> 00:53:42,200
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1048
00:53:41,719 --> 00:53:42,640
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1049
00:53:43,040 --> 00:53:47,800
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1050
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1056
00:54:08,000 --> 00:54:08,319
Speaker 5: of them.

1057
00:54:08,520 --> 00:54:10,800
Speaker 4: We'd be here for the next five hours.

1058
00:54:11,880 --> 00:54:14,880
Speaker 3: We'll talk about Merrimack against Robert Morris today one prod.

1059
00:54:15,000 --> 00:54:18,840
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's the thing, man, I just think an FBS games,

1060
00:54:18,840 --> 00:54:22,640
Speaker 5: shame on me, rights games in the mix.

1061
00:54:23,000 --> 00:54:23,600
Speaker 2: We'll be here for.

1062
00:54:23,600 --> 00:54:25,480
Speaker 3: The next BUNL game today.

1063
00:54:25,560 --> 00:54:25,840
Speaker 2: Huge.

1064
00:54:26,160 --> 00:54:27,880
Speaker 4: All right, let's uh, let's dive into this.

1065
00:54:29,160 --> 00:54:31,959
Speaker 2: Follow the money, good money. All right.

1066
00:54:32,120 --> 00:54:35,040
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1068
00:54:38,640 --> 00:54:41,880
Speaker 5: So I like giving you a blank slate to start

1069
00:54:41,920 --> 00:54:45,840
Speaker 5: off with. If you just look at line movement throughout

1070
00:54:45,880 --> 00:54:48,440
Speaker 5: the week, is there a game or a couple of

1071
00:54:48,480 --> 00:54:50,879
Speaker 5: games where you look at and you say, wow, that's

1072
00:54:50,920 --> 00:54:51,960
Speaker 5: where the line is.

1073
00:54:52,000 --> 00:54:54,240
Speaker 4: Either the point spread or the total at this stage.

1074
00:54:56,040 --> 00:54:59,200
Speaker 10: Yeah, guys gonna be back. The first game that jumps

1075
00:54:59,200 --> 00:55:04,760
Speaker 10: out is Georgia Florida game. We're on a movement on Florida,

1076
00:55:05,320 --> 00:55:07,560
Speaker 10: towards them on the points spread. This opened up at

1077
00:55:07,719 --> 00:55:10,480
Speaker 10: eighteen and a half and it's moved towards Florida the

1078
00:55:10,480 --> 00:55:10,959
Speaker 10: whole week.

1079
00:55:13,000 --> 00:55:13,200
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1080
00:55:13,200 --> 00:55:16,319
Speaker 3: I wouldn't have guessed that. Ohio State Penn State. We

1081
00:55:16,520 --> 00:55:19,959
Speaker 3: just got news moments ago, literally about five minutes ago,

1082
00:55:20,200 --> 00:55:22,360
Speaker 3: Drew Aller not on the injury report. It's kind of

1083
00:55:22,400 --> 00:55:25,600
Speaker 3: what we expected. Everything I heard this week was he's

1084
00:55:25,640 --> 00:55:28,280
Speaker 3: going to start the game and then we'll go from there.

1085
00:55:29,719 --> 00:55:33,319
Speaker 3: Do we see any more movement towards Penn State? Like

1086
00:55:33,440 --> 00:55:36,600
Speaker 3: I thought, like, I haven't gotten there yet. I bet

1087
00:55:36,640 --> 00:55:38,120
Speaker 3: a little pen stated earlier the week because I knew

1088
00:55:38,120 --> 00:55:39,520
Speaker 3: the number was gonna come down. But do you think

1089
00:55:39,520 --> 00:55:41,040
Speaker 3: we get it two and a half or as three?

1090
00:55:41,200 --> 00:55:43,080
Speaker 3: Kind of the bottom here for Ohio State?

1091
00:55:44,400 --> 00:55:46,920
Speaker 10: Yeah, I think this is it. Jared I was, you know,

1092
00:55:46,920 --> 00:55:49,560
Speaker 10: we were talking about it early yes week. Yeah, I

1093
00:55:49,600 --> 00:55:52,560
Speaker 10: said it BALLI plays. I think this goes to three.

1094
00:55:52,840 --> 00:55:56,760
Speaker 10: Probably shits here. I mean, we're we're juiced on the spread.

1095
00:55:56,800 --> 00:55:59,879
Speaker 10: Tour words Ohio State right now. But I don't see

1096
00:56:00,000 --> 00:56:01,000
Speaker 10: moving past three.

1097
00:56:01,600 --> 00:56:04,160
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, this is just it's held steady the

1098
00:56:04,160 --> 00:56:07,960
Speaker 6: whole week. Now, I'm curious about the the under or

1099
00:56:08,120 --> 00:56:10,399
Speaker 6: the point total. I should say, I'm assuming the under

1100
00:56:10,440 --> 00:56:14,440
Speaker 6: has been hammered on this one because I can't really

1101
00:56:14,560 --> 00:56:18,520
Speaker 6: seeing it reaching fifty points at all. I feel like

1102
00:56:18,560 --> 00:56:20,759
Speaker 6: this is gonna be a hotly contested game at the

1103
00:56:20,800 --> 00:56:24,920
Speaker 6: line of scrimmage. What is uh, what is the level

1104
00:56:24,920 --> 00:56:29,800
Speaker 6: of nervousness if this game stays under for BETMGM, do

1105
00:56:30,320 --> 00:56:32,000
Speaker 6: you do you really need it to go over?

1106
00:56:34,080 --> 00:56:36,440
Speaker 10: Not really need in this game so far, it's a

1107
00:56:36,480 --> 00:56:39,759
Speaker 10: lot of people just taking asides right now. We moved

1108
00:56:39,800 --> 00:56:41,600
Speaker 10: it from forty six and a half to forty seven

1109
00:56:41,640 --> 00:56:43,640
Speaker 10: and a half, and we really had no reason to

1110
00:56:43,680 --> 00:56:46,880
Speaker 10: go back to forty six and a half. So not

1111
00:56:47,000 --> 00:56:48,920
Speaker 10: really need at the moment right now. But you know,

1112
00:56:49,120 --> 00:56:51,360
Speaker 10: in an hour and a half towards kickoff, anything can happen.

1113
00:56:52,760 --> 00:56:57,200
Speaker 4: What are some of your biggest needs today, Seamus.

1114
00:56:57,160 --> 00:57:03,800
Speaker 10: It looks like, well, probably gonna need Duke pretty big hand. Yeah.

1115
00:57:03,840 --> 00:57:07,200
Speaker 10: A team that's just been like flying almost under the

1116
00:57:07,320 --> 00:57:11,000
Speaker 10: radar for us, as I think across the country, is SMU.

1117
00:57:11,719 --> 00:57:14,719
Speaker 10: We're probably gonna end up meeting pitt later tonight in

1118
00:57:15,160 --> 00:57:16,440
Speaker 10: a big ACC match.

1119
00:57:17,320 --> 00:57:20,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, that feels like an interesting one At SMU. They're

1120
00:57:20,400 --> 00:57:22,160
Speaker 3: kind of on the outside of that three team race

1121
00:57:22,200 --> 00:57:25,160
Speaker 3: in the ACC with Miami Clemson. I think they will

1122
00:57:25,240 --> 00:57:27,880
Speaker 3: need either one of those teams to lose in order

1123
00:57:27,920 --> 00:57:32,440
Speaker 3: to get into the ACC Championship game. Almost Arkansas was intriguing.

1124
00:57:32,480 --> 00:57:34,360
Speaker 3: We just gave this out there in the parlays segment.

1125
00:57:34,720 --> 00:57:36,960
Speaker 3: I think Arkansas is live today, but the number just

1126
00:57:37,080 --> 00:57:39,080
Speaker 3: you know, they're dangling that seven and a hook out

1127
00:57:39,080 --> 00:57:41,840
Speaker 3: there out there for Arkansas as a home dog, and

1128
00:57:42,400 --> 00:57:44,640
Speaker 3: I'm surprised that we haven't seen it go back to

1129
00:57:44,680 --> 00:57:46,800
Speaker 3: seven yet. Have you seen any significant action on the

1130
00:57:46,800 --> 00:57:48,440
Speaker 3: Hogs in this game as a home underdog?

1131
00:57:51,800 --> 00:57:55,120
Speaker 10: Not huge, i'd say, But I mean, we're gonna end

1132
00:57:55,200 --> 00:57:58,439
Speaker 10: up meeting Arkansas, which honestly makes me feel a little

1133
00:57:58,520 --> 00:58:02,360
Speaker 10: uncomforable good dogs for a lot of the year. But

1134
00:58:03,200 --> 00:58:07,160
Speaker 10: I don't know, You'll wonder where you know, LSU's heads

1135
00:58:07,160 --> 00:58:10,720
Speaker 10: are at. So we're gon we're gonna see it's ls

1136
00:58:10,760 --> 00:58:15,000
Speaker 10: You can't lose for that. But I think we're probably

1137
00:58:15,040 --> 00:58:16,720
Speaker 10: gonna up eating Arkansas on that game.

1138
00:58:17,520 --> 00:58:21,360
Speaker 6: We've got a couple of Big ten or a few

1139
00:58:21,560 --> 00:58:27,240
Speaker 6: Big ten favorites on the road, Ohio State, Indiana, Oregon.

1140
00:58:28,000 --> 00:58:31,640
Speaker 6: What's the handle look like like in terms of those

1141
00:58:31,720 --> 00:58:32,280
Speaker 6: teams are there?

1142
00:58:32,280 --> 00:58:33,800
Speaker 2: Are they getting a lot of action? Like?

1143
00:58:33,840 --> 00:58:37,040
Speaker 6: Are people really convinced that all three of them are

1144
00:58:37,080 --> 00:58:39,160
Speaker 6: going to get wins and cover the point spread on

1145
00:58:39,200 --> 00:58:39,560
Speaker 6: the road.

1146
00:58:41,960 --> 00:58:44,160
Speaker 10: We're gonna need a lot of these dogs. And in

1147
00:58:44,240 --> 00:58:47,280
Speaker 10: these big ten games like ten State, we're probably gonna

1148
00:58:47,320 --> 00:58:52,040
Speaker 10: need We're probably gonna need Michigan State. I mean, we're

1149
00:58:52,040 --> 00:58:54,160
Speaker 10: gonna need a lot of these dogs to come of.

1150
00:58:54,200 --> 00:58:56,800
Speaker 10: Michigan is going to be a big one against Oregon

1151
00:58:56,840 --> 00:59:00,600
Speaker 10: today at home. So I think we're it's it's similar

1152
00:59:00,640 --> 00:59:03,400
Speaker 10: to the NFL. We're just gonna need dogs to cover m.

1153
00:59:04,720 --> 00:59:08,480
Speaker 5: What do you need, Seamus when Seamous special here today?

1154
00:59:10,240 --> 00:59:10,600
Speaker 3: You know.

1155
00:59:12,160 --> 00:59:15,280
Speaker 10: With Eastern Michigan team, I can't quit these guys.

1156
00:59:15,320 --> 00:59:17,520
Speaker 3: Okay, I can't do it.

1157
00:59:18,200 --> 00:59:21,240
Speaker 10: Uh, there's a big MAX game, but they're at home.

1158
00:59:21,360 --> 00:59:24,920
Speaker 10: It's Toledo catch a nine and a half. This is

1159
00:59:25,000 --> 00:59:27,760
Speaker 10: door for Eastern Michigan. I'm riding plus nine and a

1160
00:59:27,760 --> 00:59:28,240
Speaker 10: half today.

1161
00:59:28,360 --> 00:59:30,760
Speaker 3: Wow, A lot of action on Toledo too, got all

1162
00:59:30,760 --> 00:59:31,760
Speaker 3: the way up from five to.

1163
00:59:31,760 --> 00:59:32,320
Speaker 4: Nine and a half.

1164
00:59:32,520 --> 00:59:38,120
Speaker 2: Wow, too big, too big, too any points? I mean

1165
00:59:38,200 --> 00:59:41,160
Speaker 2: and throw away the record books. When Michigan, oh yeah,

1166
00:59:41,280 --> 00:59:43,960
Speaker 2: I mean the Rockets. Are you kidding me?

1167
00:59:44,120 --> 00:59:48,040
Speaker 5: This can be unbelievable by the way, real fast, Seamus,

1168
00:59:48,040 --> 00:59:50,880
Speaker 5: I was just thinking, when you're mentioning you need Michigan state,

1169
00:59:50,960 --> 00:59:54,280
Speaker 5: you need Michigan. It made me think randomly of the

1170
00:59:54,320 --> 00:59:58,520
Speaker 5: Detroit Lions, right like heavily backed in the Michigan area.

1171
00:59:59,360 --> 01:00:02,760
Speaker 5: Is there a section of the country, or a team

1172
01:00:02,840 --> 01:00:06,560
Speaker 5: in particular where if they're catching points, man, they get

1173
01:00:06,600 --> 01:00:07,840
Speaker 5: hammered more times than not.

1174
01:00:10,400 --> 01:00:13,320
Speaker 10: I think to some of our uh few are better

1175
01:00:13,440 --> 01:00:19,800
Speaker 10: than the Southeastern states. Tennessee a huge one in Louisiana.

1176
01:00:19,880 --> 01:00:23,760
Speaker 10: They wanted that ls O. Uh and I think I

1177
01:00:23,840 --> 01:00:29,680
Speaker 10: come out here about every week and uh Colorado, any

1178
01:00:29,680 --> 01:00:31,760
Speaker 10: time they're catching points, we're gonna need to have a

1179
01:00:31,840 --> 01:00:32,640
Speaker 10: Colorado's flight.

1180
01:00:33,560 --> 01:00:34,280
Speaker 3: That sounds about right.

1181
01:00:34,560 --> 01:00:37,960
Speaker 5: No, Hey, good stuff, man, Seamus. We always appreciate your time. Man,

1182
01:00:38,000 --> 01:00:39,280
Speaker 5: have a good day. We'll catch you soon.

1183
01:00:40,280 --> 01:00:41,400
Speaker 10: Thank you, guys, have a good one.

1184
01:00:41,760 --> 01:00:44,120
Speaker 5: Good stuff there, he is, Seamus McGee man, I hope

1185
01:00:44,120 --> 01:00:46,920
Speaker 5: you didn't late that was that was a bad point

1186
01:00:46,920 --> 01:00:49,720
Speaker 5: spread here. Hopefully you didn't go money line minus three

1187
01:00:49,720 --> 01:00:52,800
Speaker 5: point fifty for seamous to go with an FCS game.

1188
01:00:53,120 --> 01:00:58,280
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, terrible. The Brian No sportsbook is down today

1189
01:00:58,720 --> 01:00:59,040
Speaker 3: the day.

1190
01:00:59,240 --> 01:01:01,680
Speaker 5: A bad line by the books. As I gave that out,

1191
01:01:01,760 --> 01:01:04,080
Speaker 5: I'm like, that should be like minus one or.

1192
01:01:04,320 --> 01:01:06,920
Speaker 3: Going away from the FCS games this year, he's been

1193
01:01:06,960 --> 01:01:10,880
Speaker 3: a little more big, bigger games, which I like because

1194
01:01:10,880 --> 01:01:12,840
Speaker 3: then we get you know, because we're gonna watch those games.

1195
01:01:12,840 --> 01:01:14,920
Speaker 3: As much as I love the FCS games, we're.

1196
01:01:14,760 --> 01:01:18,000
Speaker 5: Not why I know, the MAC seems like gosh, like

1197
01:01:18,040 --> 01:01:23,120
Speaker 5: the I don't know, like the NFC North compared to FCS.

1198
01:01:23,200 --> 01:01:25,320
Speaker 3: You we'll get match in next week, I think Tuesday night.

1199
01:01:25,560 --> 01:01:27,800
Speaker 6: What's crazy, though, is like you know he's talking about

1200
01:01:27,800 --> 01:01:29,200
Speaker 6: when Colorado's catching points?

1201
01:01:29,240 --> 01:01:31,160
Speaker 2: What about buck now like you mentioned you.

1202
01:01:31,280 --> 01:01:34,640
Speaker 3: I mean, it's crazy that Wagner Central Connecticut game is

1203
01:01:34,640 --> 01:01:36,520
Speaker 3: going to be front and center at noon eastern today

1204
01:01:36,560 --> 01:01:37,680
Speaker 3: for sure, agreed.

1205
01:01:37,880 --> 01:01:40,360
Speaker 5: Has anybody thrown that into rapid fire? I don't think

1206
01:01:40,400 --> 01:01:41,480
Speaker 5: anybody is thrown.

1207
01:01:41,520 --> 01:01:43,120
Speaker 3: We haven't had an FCS game in a RAPI part.

1208
01:01:43,120 --> 01:01:44,880
Speaker 3: How about this before the end of the season. I

1209
01:01:44,960 --> 01:01:47,040
Speaker 3: promise you I will put one FCS game in a

1210
01:01:47,120 --> 01:01:48,280
Speaker 3: rapid fire. You have my word.

1211
01:01:48,280 --> 01:01:49,800
Speaker 2: People love it? All right?

1212
01:01:49,960 --> 01:01:53,120
Speaker 5: All right, Okay, we go from heavy hitter to heavy hitter,

1213
01:01:53,200 --> 01:01:56,840
Speaker 5: from Seamus McGee to Isaac Low and cron.

1214
01:01:57,040 --> 01:01:58,440
Speaker 4: I'm trying to think, is that like.

1215
01:01:59,400 --> 01:02:02,760
Speaker 5: I don't know Duos, I don't know why Aerosmith comes

1216
01:02:02,760 --> 01:02:05,280
Speaker 5: to mind, Joe Perry and Stephen Tyler.

1217
01:02:05,360 --> 01:02:07,480
Speaker 4: I don't know you big music guy over there.

1218
01:02:07,520 --> 01:02:09,360
Speaker 3: I low sure.

1219
01:02:09,680 --> 01:02:09,800
Speaker 2: Uh.

1220
01:02:10,040 --> 01:02:10,320
Speaker 10: You know.

1221
01:02:10,440 --> 01:02:12,680
Speaker 8: Back in my college days, I was compared to Keith

1222
01:02:12,800 --> 01:02:16,640
Speaker 8: Richards by my colleagues on the student ready reason.

1223
01:02:16,680 --> 01:02:19,160
Speaker 3: Why Yeah, that's it. That was my next question.

1224
01:02:19,200 --> 01:02:21,040
Speaker 8: Actually, this is a true this is a true story.

1225
01:02:21,120 --> 01:02:24,960
Speaker 8: I was, but it was complete sarcasm on their part,

1226
01:02:25,120 --> 01:02:30,800
Speaker 8: Like I was the absolute anti anti Keith Richards because

1227
01:02:30,880 --> 01:02:34,520
Speaker 8: instead of partying, I was researching potential matchups between the

1228
01:02:34,560 --> 01:02:37,720
Speaker 8: buck Mell Bison and the Lofyette Leopards. By the way,

1229
01:02:38,400 --> 01:02:42,240
Speaker 8: can't wait for that one at one pm Eastern time today.

1230
01:02:42,600 --> 01:02:46,680
Speaker 8: First we'll relive NBA Friday Night, Oklahoma City improving to

1231
01:02:46,720 --> 01:02:48,440
Speaker 8: five and zero with a one thirty seven or one

1232
01:02:48,560 --> 01:02:51,720
Speaker 8: fourteen victory at Portland in Minnesota. Timberwolves if he had

1233
01:02:51,720 --> 01:02:54,480
Speaker 8: a Denver one nineteen to one sixteen Anthony Edwards the

1234
01:02:54,480 --> 01:02:56,680
Speaker 8: game winning shot with twenty five point one to play.

1235
01:02:57,080 --> 01:02:59,400
Speaker 8: Anthony Davis the season I thirty eight in the Los

1236
01:02:59,440 --> 01:03:02,640
Speaker 8: Angeles Makers one thirty one one twenty five victory at

1237
01:03:02,640 --> 01:03:05,760
Speaker 8: Toronto to improve to four and two. The Cleveland Cavaliers

1238
01:03:05,800 --> 01:03:07,840
Speaker 8: improved to six to zero with a one twenty to

1239
01:03:07,920 --> 01:03:10,960
Speaker 8: one oh nine win over Orlando Nick's a thirty point

1240
01:03:11,000 --> 01:03:13,880
Speaker 8: victory at Detroit one twenty eight to ninety eight. Find

1241
01:03:13,960 --> 01:03:18,640
Speaker 8: thirty six from Jalen Brunson. Coming up at noon Eastern today.

1242
01:03:18,800 --> 01:03:22,280
Speaker 8: Number three Penn State hosts fourth ranked Ohio State in

1243
01:03:22,320 --> 01:03:25,280
Speaker 8: college football. And finally, guys, we have a quick NFL

1244
01:03:25,320 --> 01:03:28,080
Speaker 8: note for you to wrap up on. In an online

1245
01:03:28,200 --> 01:03:30,439
Speaker 8: Q and A that was posted this morning, Green Bay

1246
01:03:30,480 --> 01:03:34,760
Speaker 8: Packers president Mark Murphy confirmed that the Packers have indeed

1247
01:03:34,880 --> 01:03:39,720
Speaker 8: officially hired former Jets head coach Robert Sala as a consultant.

1248
01:03:39,800 --> 01:03:44,240
Speaker 8: So sala is officially on the Packers' payroll, and Mark

1249
01:03:44,360 --> 01:03:47,680
Speaker 8: Murphy continues to make news on those online Q and

1250
01:03:47,720 --> 01:03:50,520
Speaker 8: as back to you, guys, I'll.

1251
01:03:50,320 --> 01:03:53,440
Speaker 5: Tell you what those those couple of weeks where the

1252
01:03:53,520 --> 01:03:56,840
Speaker 5: Jets were freaking terrible after firing Robert Sala.

1253
01:03:57,760 --> 01:03:59,920
Speaker 4: That didn't hurt the old resume of Robertson.

1254
01:04:01,000 --> 01:04:02,440
Speaker 2: It did not at all.

1255
01:04:02,480 --> 01:04:03,600
Speaker 3: The defenses looked bad.

1256
01:04:04,560 --> 01:04:09,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, they looked better in that last game, obviously against Houston.

1257
01:04:09,120 --> 01:04:11,880
Speaker 5: But no, you're right, they have looked pretty bad for

1258
01:04:11,920 --> 01:04:15,480
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Speaker 5: Sports Radios. Countdown to Kickoff presented by bed MGM. How

1266
01:04:41,280 --> 01:04:47,120
Speaker 5: about Duke at number five Miami, huge point spread, Canes

1267
01:04:47,120 --> 01:04:50,480
Speaker 5: favored by twenty and a half. Good Lord, the Duke.

1268
01:04:50,600 --> 01:04:54,200
Speaker 5: You love the havoc. You love the havoc over there, Jared, right,

1269
01:04:54,320 --> 01:04:54,920
Speaker 5: good havoc.

1270
01:04:55,000 --> 01:04:55,560
Speaker 2: Great love?

1271
01:04:56,120 --> 01:05:00,760
Speaker 5: Yeah, six and two duchies against the Canes, who are undefeated.

1272
01:05:00,800 --> 01:05:01,080
Speaker 2: Here.

1273
01:05:01,640 --> 01:05:05,600
Speaker 5: The crazy thing with Duke, and this might be where

1274
01:05:05,600 --> 01:05:06,919
Speaker 5: you're hesitant to back them.

1275
01:05:07,320 --> 01:05:10,480
Speaker 4: They were plus six in.

1276
01:05:10,400 --> 01:05:14,320
Speaker 5: The turnover battle last week against SMU and still lost

1277
01:05:14,360 --> 01:05:15,080
Speaker 5: the game.

1278
01:05:15,520 --> 01:05:16,760
Speaker 3: I don't know how you lose that game.

1279
01:05:17,040 --> 01:05:17,760
Speaker 4: Unbelievable.

1280
01:05:17,840 --> 01:05:22,360
Speaker 5: Duke had six takeaways and they didn't have a single

1281
01:05:22,400 --> 01:05:27,120
Speaker 5: turnover themselves, and they still lost. So if you think

1282
01:05:27,160 --> 01:05:30,400
Speaker 5: about that compared to Miami, you know, if you're plus

1283
01:05:30,440 --> 01:05:33,600
Speaker 5: six and losing to anybody, I don't love your chances

1284
01:05:33,640 --> 01:05:38,320
Speaker 5: immediately against Miami in a lethal offense there. I guess

1285
01:05:38,440 --> 01:05:41,040
Speaker 5: the hope is if you're backing Duke, is the havoc rate,

1286
01:05:41,440 --> 01:05:44,120
Speaker 5: maybe you can pressure cam Ward into a bad decision

1287
01:05:44,200 --> 01:05:47,160
Speaker 5: or two and you can stay within the number. But

1288
01:05:47,840 --> 01:05:50,280
Speaker 5: outside of that, I don't know why you would love this.

1289
01:05:50,360 --> 01:05:51,680
Speaker 5: It's just that's a lot of points.

1290
01:05:51,720 --> 01:05:57,120
Speaker 6: Man many Diaz is hyper aggressive. Like his style of defense.

1291
01:05:57,360 --> 01:05:59,720
Speaker 6: It's a little bit mind bending how much he will

1292
01:05:59,720 --> 01:06:03,479
Speaker 6: blame opposing quarterbacks. But then when you start to dig

1293
01:06:03,480 --> 01:06:06,000
Speaker 6: into the numbers and you start to watch the film,

1294
01:06:06,040 --> 01:06:08,880
Speaker 6: and you start to see how the Blue Devils present

1295
01:06:09,040 --> 01:06:15,680
Speaker 6: sometimes normal looking personnel informational surfaces against offenses they're opposing,

1296
01:06:16,040 --> 01:06:18,520
Speaker 6: and then all of a sudden they have blitzers coming

1297
01:06:18,520 --> 01:06:21,360
Speaker 6: from everywhere. You start to understand why the picture gets

1298
01:06:21,360 --> 01:06:25,120
Speaker 6: so muddy for these opposing quarterbacks against their blitz packages.

1299
01:06:25,480 --> 01:06:26,480
Speaker 2: They've really struggled.

1300
01:06:26,520 --> 01:06:30,560
Speaker 6: Also their ballhawks in the Power five conferences, their top

1301
01:06:30,600 --> 01:06:34,160
Speaker 6: five and takeaways, and in terms of you know, forcing

1302
01:06:34,400 --> 01:06:38,040
Speaker 6: opposing quarterbacks into situations where either they're throwing a bad

1303
01:06:38,160 --> 01:06:43,360
Speaker 6: ball like that should be picked or actually throwing interceptions.

1304
01:06:44,160 --> 01:06:46,400
Speaker 6: No team, well I shouldn't say no team, but very

1305
01:06:46,400 --> 01:06:49,560
Speaker 6: few teams have been better than Duke in those categories.

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01:06:49,600 --> 01:06:50,640
Speaker 2: So a very.

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01:06:50,440 --> 01:06:54,480
Speaker 6: Talented defense going against a very talented quarterback. However, if

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01:06:54,480 --> 01:06:58,680
Speaker 6: you look at cam Ward, his numbers start to drop

1309
01:06:58,720 --> 01:07:01,480
Speaker 6: a little bit when he's going against pressure, when the

1310
01:07:01,520 --> 01:07:05,800
Speaker 6: pockets clean against you know, four rushers against three rushers.

1311
01:07:06,120 --> 01:07:09,880
Speaker 6: His numbers look pretty solid. When he's when he's blitzed, though,

1312
01:07:10,080 --> 01:07:13,320
Speaker 6: and especially if there's any confusion on where the pressure

1313
01:07:13,400 --> 01:07:17,320
Speaker 6: is coming from. Ward looks nervous, he gets happy feet,

1314
01:07:17,720 --> 01:07:21,040
Speaker 6: he starts to throw the football, you know, off off

1315
01:07:21,080 --> 01:07:25,040
Speaker 6: that typical accuracy we're used to seeing. So very very

1316
01:07:25,120 --> 01:07:28,720
Speaker 6: curious to see how this game starts. I think it's

1317
01:07:28,720 --> 01:07:32,240
Speaker 6: gonna tell you whichever team gets out to a faster start,

1318
01:07:32,600 --> 01:07:34,440
Speaker 6: it's gonna tell you a lot. I think if Miami

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01:07:34,480 --> 01:07:36,680
Speaker 6: comes out to a fast start, we could end up

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Speaker 6: seeing this be potentially even a blowout if Duke though.

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01:07:40,680 --> 01:07:43,280
Speaker 6: If they get to ward early, this is gonna be

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01:07:43,320 --> 01:07:46,600
Speaker 6: a dogfight. The entire game in Miami has survived a

1323
01:07:46,640 --> 01:07:48,360
Speaker 6: couple of those. I mean the one that comes to

1324
01:07:48,400 --> 01:07:51,760
Speaker 6: mind specifically is where when they're on the road at

1325
01:07:51,840 --> 01:07:54,440
Speaker 6: Cal it took everything they had to get that victory.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and again, Rich, the the numbers back up what

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01:07:58,000 --> 01:08:01,240
Speaker 3: you're saying in terms of ward under pure just completion

1328
01:08:01,400 --> 01:08:04,040
Speaker 3: rate drops from seventy two percent when kept clean down

1329
01:08:04,040 --> 01:08:07,480
Speaker 3: to fifty five. So you just see happy feet. I

1330
01:08:07,560 --> 01:08:10,480
Speaker 3: like the way you put that. I think quarterbacks we

1331
01:08:10,600 --> 01:08:13,400
Speaker 3: tend to examine the upper body because that's where the

1332
01:08:13,440 --> 01:08:16,160
Speaker 3: ball is thrown from. But when I watch and try

1333
01:08:16,200 --> 01:08:18,800
Speaker 3: to analyze a quarterback, it's all footwork. That was what

1334
01:08:18,880 --> 01:08:21,160
Speaker 3: my quarterback and I know I'm only a high school coach,

1335
01:08:21,200 --> 01:08:23,720
Speaker 3: but my quarterback coach was all footwork, footwork for he

1336
01:08:23,800 --> 01:08:26,240
Speaker 3: knew I could throw. It's all footwork. I think these

1337
01:08:26,439 --> 01:08:30,599
Speaker 3: these teams, they many das is gonna bring the heath today.

1338
01:08:30,680 --> 01:08:32,799
Speaker 3: I mean, this is a revenge game for many Das,

1339
01:08:32,880 --> 01:08:35,960
Speaker 3: Like this is the ultimate revenge spot for him. Former

1340
01:08:36,000 --> 01:08:39,200
Speaker 3: Miami head coach going back to a team that I

1341
01:08:39,240 --> 01:08:41,760
Speaker 3: don't want to say dismissed him unfairly, but there were

1342
01:08:41,800 --> 01:08:44,439
Speaker 3: some ups and downs with those Manny d As Miami teams.

1343
01:08:45,680 --> 01:08:48,320
Speaker 3: For Duke, it's just where's the offense coming from? I

1344
01:08:48,320 --> 01:08:50,639
Speaker 3: think that's the question. This is a team that's outside

1345
01:08:50,640 --> 01:08:53,680
Speaker 3: the top eighty and a lot of those explosive offensive

1346
01:08:53,720 --> 01:08:57,439
Speaker 3: categories that we look to. And as you mentioned, Rich,

1347
01:08:57,479 --> 01:09:00,000
Speaker 3: if the ball gets pushed down the hill and starts rolling,

1348
01:09:00,920 --> 01:09:03,320
Speaker 3: I think that's where this is a runaway freight train

1349
01:09:03,479 --> 01:09:07,960
Speaker 3: type of game Miami. Duke might need ten turnovers in

1350
01:09:08,000 --> 01:09:10,320
Speaker 3: this game in order to beat Miami, Like like six

1351
01:09:10,520 --> 01:09:13,479
Speaker 3: six puzzn't enough to beat SMU last week. You might

1352
01:09:13,600 --> 01:09:16,200
Speaker 3: need to force like eight or nine in this game

1353
01:09:16,240 --> 01:09:18,840
Speaker 3: to have a chance against cam Ward, who, by the way,

1354
01:09:19,240 --> 01:09:21,280
Speaker 3: I know, I know we're still a few weeks away.

1355
01:09:21,280 --> 01:09:25,479
Speaker 3: I I do believe he is the obvious Heisman candidate

1356
01:09:25,560 --> 01:09:29,080
Speaker 3: right now. I think the other players that are in

1357
01:09:29,120 --> 01:09:32,280
Speaker 3: the mix, gent and and and you know Colorado with

1358
01:09:32,840 --> 01:09:35,479
Speaker 3: it just I'm not a little concerned that that they

1359
01:09:35,479 --> 01:09:38,720
Speaker 3: don't have the the starch and cam Ward's like the

1360
01:09:38,760 --> 01:09:41,160
Speaker 3: most consistent quarterback that we have the numbers from and

1361
01:09:41,760 --> 01:09:44,320
Speaker 3: he just keeps producing. So as much as I love

1362
01:09:44,880 --> 01:09:47,200
Speaker 3: the other guys on the on the podium, I I

1363
01:09:47,240 --> 01:09:49,720
Speaker 3: do think it's gonna be cam Ward that's gonna win Heisman.

1364
01:09:49,600 --> 01:09:50,519
Speaker 4: And you might be right.

1365
01:09:50,640 --> 01:09:54,000
Speaker 5: The interesting thing with the Heisman race is we all

1366
01:09:54,040 --> 01:09:56,559
Speaker 5: know how it goes. Most of the time, it's the

1367
01:09:56,600 --> 01:09:59,639
Speaker 5: best player on the best team. I wish that would

1368
01:09:59,720 --> 01:10:03,040
Speaker 5: change Gabriel.

1369
01:10:04,080 --> 01:10:05,839
Speaker 3: He doesn't have the numbers that cam Word has.

1370
01:10:05,680 --> 01:10:08,360
Speaker 5: That's but that's the thing though, too with with cam

1371
01:10:08,479 --> 01:10:12,200
Speaker 5: Ward and Miami. It's like you just look at their

1372
01:10:12,280 --> 01:10:16,040
Speaker 5: schedule and those ooh and ah moments right like a

1373
01:10:16,040 --> 01:10:18,439
Speaker 5: big game like this is this is a big game

1374
01:10:18,520 --> 01:10:22,479
Speaker 5: between Ohio State and Penn State obviously today, Like what's

1375
01:10:22,560 --> 01:10:24,600
Speaker 5: the big game for Miami?

1376
01:10:25,000 --> 01:10:27,480
Speaker 3: Like the Loville game was big on the road.

1377
01:10:27,800 --> 01:10:29,559
Speaker 2: That's it. That's it.

1378
01:10:29,880 --> 01:10:33,280
Speaker 4: That's what I mean. Is like bright lights, like big stage.

1379
01:10:33,360 --> 01:10:35,280
Speaker 5: This is a wow moment were I was talking about

1380
01:10:35,280 --> 01:10:38,559
Speaker 5: Heisman moments, I like, that's he caught.

1381
01:10:38,360 --> 01:10:40,479
Speaker 3: A touchdown pass last week exact.

1382
01:10:40,760 --> 01:10:42,000
Speaker 2: I'm not I'm just.

1383
01:10:41,960 --> 01:10:44,599
Speaker 4: Saying stage, Okay, I'm not talking about production.

1384
01:10:44,800 --> 01:10:47,160
Speaker 5: The production speaks for itself. I'm talking about this stage.

1385
01:10:47,160 --> 01:10:50,080
Speaker 5: They don't face one ranked team. Yeah, they don't have

1386
01:10:50,160 --> 01:10:52,840
Speaker 5: the same stage as some of these other Heisman hopefuls.

1387
01:10:53,880 --> 01:10:57,000
Speaker 6: I think that when you're talking about the Heisman, what

1388
01:10:57,080 --> 01:11:00,200
Speaker 6: you said first is the truth, and then yeah, to

1389
01:11:00,960 --> 01:11:02,040
Speaker 6: backtrack from.

1390
01:11:01,920 --> 01:11:06,600
Speaker 2: There and and find find find the really.

1391
01:11:06,280 --> 01:11:09,479
Speaker 6: Special players who have been able to win a Heisman

1392
01:11:10,080 --> 01:11:13,920
Speaker 6: regardless of team record or regardless of having that moment.

1393
01:11:14,000 --> 01:11:18,000
Speaker 6: You have to be undeniably great, almost record setting great,

1394
01:11:18,080 --> 01:11:21,920
Speaker 6: like Lamar Jackson at Louisville, like a Jayden Daniels at

1395
01:11:22,000 --> 01:11:26,440
Speaker 6: LSU Ye, you know, not not incredible team wide resumes,

1396
01:11:27,000 --> 01:11:29,799
Speaker 6: but just sensational numbers.

1397
01:11:30,080 --> 01:11:32,320
Speaker 2: And I think you're right, Jared.

1398
01:11:32,360 --> 01:11:35,280
Speaker 6: I think he's got I think he's got the starch

1399
01:11:35,400 --> 01:11:38,439
Speaker 6: to be a Heisman candidate and potentially a winner depending

1400
01:11:38,479 --> 01:11:41,080
Speaker 6: on how things go for the Ducks this season. But

1401
01:11:41,400 --> 01:11:45,360
Speaker 6: does the team, does the resume, does the record have

1402
01:11:45,479 --> 01:11:48,479
Speaker 6: the starch. That's where it starts to get a little

1403
01:11:48,520 --> 01:11:52,960
Speaker 6: bit a little bit iffy, because it's unfair that it's

1404
01:11:53,000 --> 01:11:54,840
Speaker 6: a beauty contest, because it shouldn't be.

1405
01:11:54,880 --> 01:11:55,800
Speaker 2: It should go to the.

1406
01:11:55,760 --> 01:11:59,800
Speaker 6: Most valuable player in college football, the best player in

1407
01:11:59,840 --> 01:12:02,760
Speaker 6: college football. And there's a fair argument to be made

1408
01:12:02,800 --> 01:12:06,000
Speaker 6: for an Ashton Genty from that standpoint, but is he

1409
01:12:06,080 --> 01:12:06,519
Speaker 6: gonna win it?

1410
01:12:06,600 --> 01:12:09,960
Speaker 2: D answer is absolutely not, absolutely not. That's just how

1411
01:12:10,000 --> 01:12:10,400
Speaker 2: it goes.

1412
01:12:11,160 --> 01:12:13,560
Speaker 3: I think we have four very worthy final Like I

1413
01:12:13,600 --> 01:12:16,679
Speaker 3: think the Heisman podium, in my mind is completely set.

1414
01:12:17,040 --> 01:12:20,360
Speaker 3: It's Hunter, it's Gabriel, it's Ward, it's Genty. I think

1415
01:12:20,520 --> 01:12:24,519
Speaker 3: based off of the historical precedent of this award, cam

1416
01:12:24,600 --> 01:12:27,599
Speaker 3: Ward is like the square peg in the square hole

1417
01:12:27,960 --> 01:12:35,000
Speaker 3: right quarterback, unbelievable numbers off the charts like statistics undefeated team,

1418
01:12:35,520 --> 01:12:38,439
Speaker 3: whereas Gabriel you have to knock him for the numbers

1419
01:12:38,479 --> 01:12:41,479
Speaker 3: a little bit, but the team success is there. Travis Hunter,

1420
01:12:42,200 --> 01:12:44,120
Speaker 3: they might not even make the playoff, Like the team

1421
01:12:44,200 --> 01:12:46,559
Speaker 3: success isn't there. Ashton Genty is a group of five

1422
01:12:46,640 --> 01:12:49,000
Speaker 3: running back that's played a bunch of cupcakes for most

1423
01:12:49,000 --> 01:12:52,320
Speaker 3: of the year. So it's I think everyone all four

1424
01:12:52,360 --> 01:12:55,599
Speaker 3: of these candidates have some warts. I think the fewest

1425
01:12:55,640 --> 01:12:58,639
Speaker 3: warts is the quarterback that is putting up the record

1426
01:12:58,720 --> 01:13:01,479
Speaker 3: setting numbers on an undefeated team. And then as Dylan

1427
01:13:01,520 --> 01:13:04,599
Speaker 3: Gabriel I think played and also Gabriel's defense significantly better

1428
01:13:04,920 --> 01:13:07,439
Speaker 3: where Miami might be in some games down the stretch

1429
01:13:07,479 --> 01:13:10,000
Speaker 3: where they need cam Ward to go crazy, whereas Dylan

1430
01:13:10,000 --> 01:13:11,920
Speaker 3: Gabriel might just be able to hand it off five

1431
01:13:12,040 --> 01:13:14,479
Speaker 3: ten times in these double digit favorite games and it's

1432
01:13:14,520 --> 01:13:15,720
Speaker 3: not gonna really matter too much.

1433
01:13:16,200 --> 01:13:18,640
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think to put a bow on it, at

1434
01:13:18,720 --> 01:13:22,240
Speaker 5: least for me. I hate that this is probably the reality.

1435
01:13:22,320 --> 01:13:25,960
Speaker 5: But as special as Ashton Gent is, he's probably gonna

1436
01:13:26,000 --> 01:13:28,040
Speaker 5: have to set some sort of record and he's not

1437
01:13:28,160 --> 01:13:30,640
Speaker 5: going to He's gonna chase down Barry Sanders, you know

1438
01:13:30,680 --> 01:13:33,439
Speaker 5: what I mean, Like a group of five running back.

1439
01:13:33,920 --> 01:13:37,400
Speaker 5: He's probably gonna have to do something like that. Otherwise

1440
01:13:37,920 --> 01:13:40,280
Speaker 5: many people and many voters are gonna look at it

1441
01:13:40,320 --> 01:13:42,519
Speaker 5: and say, yeah, but group of five, you know what

1442
01:13:42,600 --> 01:13:44,599
Speaker 5: I mean, Like you're gonna have to have something on

1443
01:13:44,640 --> 01:13:48,120
Speaker 5: that bullet point resume of like he surpassed Barry Sanders

1444
01:13:48,120 --> 01:13:50,760
Speaker 5: for XYZ and you're like, Wow, what short of that?

1445
01:13:51,439 --> 01:13:53,200
Speaker 4: I don't I don't think it's gonna happen.

1446
01:13:53,520 --> 01:13:54,720
Speaker 2: I completely agree with you.

1447
01:13:54,800 --> 01:13:58,200
Speaker 6: I watched this front row seats to the final season

1448
01:13:58,200 --> 01:14:00,720
Speaker 6: at San Diego State for Rashad Penn and it was

1449
01:14:00,760 --> 01:14:03,280
Speaker 6: the same story you're discussing. I mean, he ended up

1450
01:14:03,320 --> 01:14:05,559
Speaker 6: being a first rounder of the Seahawks, and you know,

1451
01:14:05,720 --> 01:14:09,080
Speaker 6: kind of an up and down NFL career with injuries

1452
01:14:09,080 --> 01:14:11,839
Speaker 6: and things like that, and he's finished that career up already.

1453
01:14:11,880 --> 01:14:13,360
Speaker 2: But yeah, like it takes.

1454
01:14:13,960 --> 01:14:18,920
Speaker 6: It's almost insurmountable, almost inconceivable at this point to see

1455
01:14:18,920 --> 01:14:21,320
Speaker 6: a group of five player, not just running back but

1456
01:14:21,400 --> 01:14:25,439
Speaker 6: any player really vault themselves to the top of that list.

1457
01:14:25,920 --> 01:14:30,320
Speaker 6: And that's the reason why team success or I should

1458
01:14:30,360 --> 01:14:32,760
Speaker 6: say team success is the reason why, because if you're

1459
01:14:32,840 --> 01:14:35,479
Speaker 6: the best player on the best team, typically you get

1460
01:14:35,560 --> 01:14:39,320
Speaker 6: those votes. And I could see gent or any group

1461
01:14:39,320 --> 01:14:41,800
Speaker 6: of five players special as him getting an invite to

1462
01:14:41,920 --> 01:14:42,559
Speaker 6: New York.

1463
01:14:42,600 --> 01:14:44,240
Speaker 2: But that's as far as that party's gone.

1464
01:14:44,320 --> 01:14:46,240
Speaker 3: He'll get the invite. That'll be like winning the award.

1465
01:14:46,280 --> 01:14:48,960
Speaker 3: And also for people betting it out there, don't try

1466
01:14:48,960 --> 01:14:51,559
Speaker 3: to be cute. Now there's only a few games left.

1467
01:14:51,600 --> 01:14:53,800
Speaker 3: Don't try to bet Carson Beckett thirty five to one

1468
01:14:53,840 --> 01:14:56,280
Speaker 3: because you think George is gonna be like a top team.

1469
01:14:57,000 --> 01:14:59,760
Speaker 3: This podium is set. It's the top four guys. I

1470
01:14:59,760 --> 01:15:03,360
Speaker 3: think Gabriel and Ward makes sense. Travis Hunter is gonna

1471
01:15:03,360 --> 01:15:05,439
Speaker 3: get a lot of attention because he's a two way player,

1472
01:15:05,439 --> 01:15:08,680
Speaker 3: and that is like unheard of, but I would be

1473
01:15:08,720 --> 01:15:11,120
Speaker 3: surprised if it's not one of these quarterbacks. I really would.

1474
01:15:11,520 --> 01:15:12,479
Speaker 4: Yeah, we'll see, man.

1475
01:15:12,640 --> 01:15:15,640
Speaker 5: I just hate that Jent went crazy against Oregon, who's, oh,

1476
01:15:15,720 --> 01:15:17,439
Speaker 5: by the way, the number one team in the country,

1477
01:15:17,479 --> 01:15:18,280
Speaker 5: and yet it's like a.

1478
01:15:18,479 --> 01:15:19,120
Speaker 3: Group of five.

1479
01:15:20,080 --> 01:15:22,040
Speaker 4: It's crazy. Are we got rich?

1480
01:15:22,080 --> 01:15:26,160
Speaker 5: Oiinberger? Penn State All American? Jared Smith FSR betting analyst,

1481
01:15:26,200 --> 01:15:29,760
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Speaker 4: Alright, let's do this.

1492
01:16:05,000 --> 01:16:08,200
Speaker 2: Prop it up player plays.

1493
01:16:07,960 --> 01:16:11,439
Speaker 4: All right, the prop bet market. Jared, we start with you.

1494
01:16:11,520 --> 01:16:15,000
Speaker 3: What do you like? Let's go Avery Johnson quarterback of

1495
01:16:15,080 --> 01:16:18,439
Speaker 3: Kansas State. We're gonna go under his passing yards prop today.

1496
01:16:18,439 --> 01:16:21,840
Speaker 3: He's actually gone over this number in four straight games,

1497
01:16:21,840 --> 01:16:24,320
Speaker 3: but in those four games, Kansas State has played some

1498
01:16:24,400 --> 01:16:27,240
Speaker 3: of the dregs of the Kegs in terms of pass defenses,

1499
01:16:27,280 --> 01:16:31,120
Speaker 3: West Virginia, Oklahoma State, and he also needed some late

1500
01:16:31,160 --> 01:16:35,040
Speaker 3: comebacks against Kansas and Colorado, which again, game script matters

1501
01:16:35,080 --> 01:16:37,200
Speaker 3: a lot for these quarterback props. If you go back

1502
01:16:37,200 --> 01:16:40,960
Speaker 3: to earlier in the season, Avery Johnson didn't reach over

1503
01:16:41,120 --> 01:16:44,759
Speaker 3: one point eighty one in any of Kansas State's first

1504
01:16:44,800 --> 01:16:47,639
Speaker 3: four games. And I do think kind of the matchup

1505
01:16:47,680 --> 01:16:51,559
Speaker 3: today favors and under why he's facing Houston good defense,

1506
01:16:51,920 --> 01:16:54,400
Speaker 3: much better against the pass than against the run. And

1507
01:16:54,400 --> 01:16:56,680
Speaker 3: also Kansas State's a big favorite in the game, so

1508
01:16:56,720 --> 01:16:59,040
Speaker 3: we expect Kansas State to take a big lead by

1509
01:16:59,120 --> 01:17:01,280
Speaker 3: running the football and then in the second half they

1510
01:17:01,320 --> 01:17:04,920
Speaker 3: will throttle down under two hundred and two and the

1511
01:17:04,960 --> 01:17:09,639
Speaker 3: hook Avery Johnson passing yards today for Case State. All right, I'm.

1512
01:17:09,479 --> 01:17:13,639
Speaker 6: Taking a look at Jeremiah Smith, Ohio State receiver going

1513
01:17:13,720 --> 01:17:16,400
Speaker 6: over sixty nine and a half. Here's the biggest reason

1514
01:17:16,439 --> 01:17:19,759
Speaker 6: why he's done it every single game, so to imagine

1515
01:17:19,800 --> 01:17:22,120
Speaker 6: in the biggest game of the season, they're not going

1516
01:17:22,160 --> 01:17:25,840
Speaker 6: to try to highlight their best offensive threat on the outside.

1517
01:17:26,160 --> 01:17:28,719
Speaker 2: It's a little short sighted. Ohio State.

1518
01:17:28,800 --> 01:17:32,559
Speaker 6: While I think they lose miserably to Penn State Nittney Allions,

1519
01:17:32,560 --> 01:17:35,679
Speaker 6: we are, I do think that Jeremiah Smith will eat

1520
01:17:35,720 --> 01:17:38,240
Speaker 6: in the game. So I have him going over the

1521
01:17:38,400 --> 01:17:41,519
Speaker 6: sixty nine and a half receiving yards that he's marked

1522
01:17:41,520 --> 01:17:42,439
Speaker 6: down for in this prop.

1523
01:17:43,400 --> 01:17:45,680
Speaker 4: Losing miserably, how big.

1524
01:17:45,439 --> 01:17:49,840
Speaker 6: Of a they probably play like four or five touches, look,

1525
01:17:49,920 --> 01:17:51,439
Speaker 6: so they're gonna have to throw the ball a lot

1526
01:17:51,640 --> 01:17:52,360
Speaker 6: like that whole lot.

1527
01:17:52,439 --> 01:17:53,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, gotcha, I hear you.

1528
01:17:55,840 --> 01:18:00,240
Speaker 5: I'm gonna look at Louisville running back Isaac Brown me

1529
01:18:00,280 --> 01:18:04,480
Speaker 5: over sixty five and a half rushing yards against Clemson.

1530
01:18:05,040 --> 01:18:08,559
Speaker 5: I don't love Clemson's defensive line. And then also when

1531
01:18:08,600 --> 01:18:11,680
Speaker 5: you look at Tyler Shock and the passing offense, some

1532
01:18:11,760 --> 01:18:16,040
Speaker 5: good balance over there with Louisville's offense, so that helps

1533
01:18:16,120 --> 01:18:20,200
Speaker 5: open some running lanes against again, an underperforming defensive line.

1534
01:18:20,479 --> 01:18:22,639
Speaker 5: Give me Isaac Brown over sixty five and a half

1535
01:18:22,720 --> 01:18:27,360
Speaker 5: rushing yards for Louisville. Do you guys say Louisville or Louisville.

1536
01:18:27,479 --> 01:18:29,040
Speaker 3: Long get them lov You.

1537
01:18:29,080 --> 01:18:29,879
Speaker 4: Gotta go Louisville.

1538
01:18:29,880 --> 01:18:33,240
Speaker 2: You gotta roll the the l Aulisville.

1539
01:18:33,400 --> 01:18:33,880
Speaker 4: That's right.

1540
01:18:34,240 --> 01:18:38,240
Speaker 5: If you say Bison, right, you gotta say Louisville.

1541
01:18:38,680 --> 01:18:39,000
Speaker 10: Got it.

1542
01:18:39,560 --> 01:18:41,640
Speaker 2: That's exactly correct. Hey, I'll give you another one. We

1543
01:18:41,680 --> 01:18:43,679
Speaker 2: were just talking about him, cam Ward.

1544
01:18:44,120 --> 01:18:47,400
Speaker 6: He's only thrown for under three hundred and ten yards

1545
01:18:47,479 --> 01:18:50,680
Speaker 6: once this season. The prop I saw you could get

1546
01:18:50,760 --> 01:18:53,320
Speaker 6: him at three hundred and nine and a half passing

1547
01:18:53,400 --> 01:18:56,719
Speaker 6: yards against Duke. Look, when you have a Heisman hopeful,

1548
01:18:57,280 --> 01:18:59,960
Speaker 6: you pump up his numbers. You know, you make sure

1549
01:19:00,200 --> 01:19:02,880
Speaker 6: he gets his yard. So that's something to watch down

1550
01:19:02,960 --> 01:19:07,080
Speaker 6: the stretch. As we have Heisman campaigns, they always get

1551
01:19:07,160 --> 01:19:07,920
Speaker 6: their numbers.

1552
01:19:07,960 --> 01:19:10,479
Speaker 2: And so I like cam Woard today as well.

1553
01:19:11,240 --> 01:19:12,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, I like that too.

1554
01:19:12,439 --> 01:19:16,760
Speaker 5: Real fact can talk about this Michigan running back Khalil Mullins.

1555
01:19:17,720 --> 01:19:19,000
Speaker 2: Oh, I like this one right.

1556
01:19:19,000 --> 01:19:22,599
Speaker 5: Like sixteen and a half rushing yards Oregons not great

1557
01:19:22,600 --> 01:19:24,400
Speaker 5: against the rush, but that's what you have.

1558
01:19:24,400 --> 01:19:25,880
Speaker 4: To stop, you gotta right.

1559
01:19:26,439 --> 01:19:29,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, Warren, stop an interception in that game.

1560
01:19:29,760 --> 01:19:31,600
Speaker 4: We'll pick it back up. Plus the biggest game of

1561
01:19:31,600 --> 01:19:31,960
Speaker 4: the day.

1562
01:19:33,160 --> 01:19:36,720
Speaker 5: Oh yes, welcome in, Happy Saturday to you. We are

1563
01:19:36,800 --> 01:19:41,120
Speaker 5: less than an hour away from kickoff and the biggest game,

1564
01:19:41,439 --> 01:19:42,679
Speaker 5: the biggest game of the day.

1565
01:19:43,800 --> 01:19:46,200
Speaker 4: I's gonna say the biggest game of the millennium.

1566
01:19:46,280 --> 01:19:49,639
Speaker 5: That might be a little bit strong, right there, Number

1567
01:19:49,680 --> 01:19:53,759
Speaker 5: four Ohio State against number three Penn State. I guess

1568
01:19:53,760 --> 01:19:56,400
Speaker 5: this would be a bigger game if rich didn't expect

1569
01:19:56,640 --> 01:19:58,760
Speaker 5: Penn State twin by four or five touchdowns.

1570
01:20:00,160 --> 01:20:05,080
Speaker 6: Yeah yeah, I mean if you you really can't put

1571
01:20:05,080 --> 01:20:08,519
Speaker 6: a number on it because it's just such a potent

1572
01:20:08,560 --> 01:20:12,200
Speaker 6: offensive attack. Yeah, I mean I wish, I I that

1573
01:20:12,240 --> 01:20:15,120
Speaker 6: would be uh, that would be you know what.

1574
01:20:15,080 --> 01:20:16,240
Speaker 2: You want to hear something funny.

1575
01:20:16,360 --> 01:20:19,799
Speaker 6: I hated playing in close games in my collegiate career

1576
01:20:20,439 --> 01:20:24,680
Speaker 6: in my professional career. And this is gonna sound bizarre,

1577
01:20:24,800 --> 01:20:28,799
Speaker 6: but win or lose, I would rather win by a million,

1578
01:20:29,040 --> 01:20:32,920
Speaker 6: or I'd rather lose by a million. I I don't

1579
01:20:32,960 --> 01:20:35,320
Speaker 6: it was more satisfying when you want a close game.

1580
01:20:35,439 --> 01:20:38,240
Speaker 6: Sometimes sometimes when it's a close game against a competitor,

1581
01:20:38,600 --> 01:20:43,200
Speaker 6: that you should be blowing out those stunk But like, yeah,

1582
01:20:43,280 --> 01:20:47,280
Speaker 6: it's it's funny. I mean, I I think that moments

1583
01:20:47,360 --> 01:20:50,640
Speaker 6: like that are are way more fun and way more magical.

1584
01:20:51,120 --> 01:20:53,240
Speaker 2: But I I if.

1585
01:20:53,120 --> 01:20:55,479
Speaker 6: It were up to me, like every season that I

1586
01:20:55,520 --> 01:20:59,800
Speaker 6: played in would just be a juggernaut role through the opponents,

1587
01:21:00,760 --> 01:21:06,000
Speaker 6: an overwhelming victory, International championship or a super Bowl and

1588
01:21:06,200 --> 01:21:09,800
Speaker 6: you know, kind of stress free breeze through the sport schedule.

1589
01:21:09,920 --> 01:21:11,960
Speaker 6: But that's not how football's played, and that's not how

1590
01:21:11,960 --> 01:21:13,720
Speaker 6: this Penn State Ohio State game is going to be

1591
01:21:13,760 --> 01:21:14,280
Speaker 6: played either.

1592
01:21:14,880 --> 01:21:17,679
Speaker 5: Just real fast, because we'll dive in headfirst to Ohio

1593
01:21:17,720 --> 01:21:19,519
Speaker 5: State and Penn State. But what was it? Like you

1594
01:21:19,560 --> 01:21:21,680
Speaker 5: mentioned right there, just the stress of it. It was

1595
01:21:21,720 --> 01:21:23,559
Speaker 5: too much for you, and it was that cloth.

1596
01:21:24,040 --> 01:21:26,360
Speaker 6: It wasn't too much for me. I played better in

1597
01:21:26,439 --> 01:21:32,720
Speaker 6: bigger games, but it was. It was undeniably.

1598
01:21:33,320 --> 01:21:33,799
Speaker 2: Taxing.

1599
01:21:34,479 --> 01:21:39,080
Speaker 6: So the feeling you had after losing a close game

1600
01:21:39,840 --> 01:21:43,160
Speaker 6: was so heartbreaking because football.

1601
01:21:42,840 --> 01:21:46,120
Speaker 2: Is so important to you if you're a player and.

1602
01:21:46,040 --> 01:21:49,880
Speaker 6: You care that it really did take take I mean

1603
01:21:49,920 --> 01:21:52,240
Speaker 6: I cared about it a lot, and so it did.

1604
01:21:52,560 --> 01:21:55,920
Speaker 6: I mean it affected everything about your personality when you

1605
01:21:56,000 --> 01:21:57,800
Speaker 6: lost the close game and a game you should win.

1606
01:21:57,800 --> 01:22:00,080
Speaker 5: How about for the next game, though, rich, How how

1607
01:22:00,120 --> 01:22:01,360
Speaker 5: much did it affect the next game?

1608
01:22:01,439 --> 01:22:01,519
Speaker 3: Oh?

1609
01:22:01,600 --> 01:22:03,599
Speaker 2: And it can it can well, because look, there's a

1610
01:22:03,600 --> 01:22:04,360
Speaker 2: halo effect.

1611
01:22:04,400 --> 01:22:09,120
Speaker 6: So you win a close game and it's very emotional victory,

1612
01:22:09,360 --> 01:22:10,680
Speaker 6: or you lose a close.

1613
01:22:10,479 --> 01:22:12,400
Speaker 2: Game and it's a very emotional loss.

1614
01:22:13,120 --> 01:22:17,160
Speaker 6: Well, that does have an effect on practice preparation leading

1615
01:22:17,200 --> 01:22:21,080
Speaker 6: into the next game week, and practice preparation is game reality.

1616
01:22:21,600 --> 01:22:25,400
Speaker 6: That's that's the situation you're in. And so every week,

1617
01:22:25,760 --> 01:22:30,280
Speaker 6: if you have missed reps or if you have a

1618
01:22:30,400 --> 01:22:35,160
Speaker 6: lack of concentration at practice, maybe maybe by the end

1619
01:22:35,200 --> 01:22:37,000
Speaker 6: of the week you shore things up.

1620
01:22:37,400 --> 01:22:38,280
Speaker 2: But here's the deal.

1621
01:22:38,360 --> 01:22:40,880
Speaker 6: You only get so many bites at the apple during

1622
01:22:40,880 --> 01:22:42,680
Speaker 6: the practice week. How many times are you going to

1623
01:22:42,760 --> 01:22:45,040
Speaker 6: work on that play that's gonna be up for this

1624
01:22:45,200 --> 01:22:47,360
Speaker 6: game plan and this game plan only and then.

1625
01:22:47,200 --> 01:22:47,840
Speaker 2: It goes away.

1626
01:22:47,960 --> 01:22:50,840
Speaker 6: Maybe you have a special on offense that you're trying

1627
01:22:50,840 --> 01:22:53,559
Speaker 6: to get to. Maybe there's a blitz that you're only

1628
01:22:53,640 --> 01:22:57,200
Speaker 6: packaging up for your game against Ohio State called Buckeye

1629
01:22:57,320 --> 01:23:00,040
Speaker 6: where you're sending two linebackers and a safety up the

1630
01:23:00,040 --> 01:23:02,160
Speaker 6: middle in the A gaps and you're gonna try to

1631
01:23:02,400 --> 01:23:06,480
Speaker 6: harass the quarterback. Maybe only practice that three times when

1632
01:23:06,520 --> 01:23:09,240
Speaker 6: you're on the practice field leading up to this game,

1633
01:23:09,400 --> 01:23:12,559
Speaker 6: and if you're a step too late, that quarterback throws

1634
01:23:12,600 --> 01:23:14,200
Speaker 6: over the blitz and it's a big play for the

1635
01:23:14,240 --> 01:23:15,559
Speaker 6: buck guys going down the field.

1636
01:23:15,760 --> 01:23:17,439
Speaker 2: You gotta get it right the timing.

1637
01:23:18,000 --> 01:23:21,000
Speaker 6: It's got to be perfection at practice and that creates

1638
01:23:21,040 --> 01:23:23,519
Speaker 6: a better situation in a game. And so the halo

1639
01:23:23,600 --> 01:23:28,200
Speaker 6: effect of losing or winning a tight game is what

1640
01:23:28,439 --> 01:23:32,800
Speaker 6: bothered me because it did interfere with your preparation and

1641
01:23:32,840 --> 01:23:35,479
Speaker 6: you could feel it. There was either the win taken

1642
01:23:35,520 --> 01:23:38,000
Speaker 6: out of the balloon when you lost a game like that,

1643
01:23:38,280 --> 01:23:41,320
Speaker 6: or sometimes a little too much confidence and ego and

1644
01:23:41,400 --> 01:23:45,120
Speaker 6: cockiness and arrogance when you got to the football football

1645
01:23:45,120 --> 01:23:47,360
Speaker 6: field after a close win that you needed to have.

1646
01:23:47,800 --> 01:23:50,240
Speaker 6: And so yeah, if it were up to me, I

1647
01:23:50,240 --> 01:23:53,720
Speaker 6: would have loved to blow out every single opponent that

1648
01:23:53,760 --> 01:23:55,639
Speaker 6: we faced during my entire career.

1649
01:23:55,640 --> 01:23:57,320
Speaker 2: And obviously that was not the case.

1650
01:23:58,200 --> 01:24:01,000
Speaker 3: No, that's not the kind of offense pens. And it's

1651
01:24:01,000 --> 01:24:03,880
Speaker 3: a great it's a fantastic transition to this game today

1652
01:24:04,439 --> 01:24:08,200
Speaker 3: and the place, so the first place I started when

1653
01:24:08,240 --> 01:24:10,920
Speaker 3: I was looking at Penn State, Ohio State. I went

1654
01:24:10,960 --> 01:24:13,000
Speaker 3: back and I studied some of the Ohio State big

1655
01:24:13,040 --> 01:24:16,280
Speaker 3: games this year and in prior years, and I was

1656
01:24:16,320 --> 01:24:18,680
Speaker 3: stopped dead in my tracks in the Oregon game. And

1657
01:24:18,720 --> 01:24:22,160
Speaker 3: here's why Ohio State was minus three and a half

1658
01:24:22,200 --> 01:24:26,639
Speaker 3: at Oregon. They're minus three today Penn State. I listen,

1659
01:24:26,760 --> 01:24:28,519
Speaker 3: You're never gonna find a bigger fan of Penn State

1660
01:24:28,520 --> 01:24:31,160
Speaker 3: than me. Oregon's better than Penn State, period, end of story.

1661
01:24:31,600 --> 01:24:34,880
Speaker 3: Like they are a better football team. They have significantly

1662
01:24:34,880 --> 01:24:38,519
Speaker 3: better weapons on the outside to stretch you, and I

1663
01:24:38,520 --> 01:24:41,519
Speaker 3: think they're better in the trenches, especially on defense. I

1664
01:24:41,560 --> 01:24:43,720
Speaker 3: think Penn State's defense is going through a bit of

1665
01:24:43,720 --> 01:24:47,720
Speaker 3: a transition this year with some players in new positions

1666
01:24:47,760 --> 01:24:50,639
Speaker 3: and just the scheme change going from Diaz now to Allen.

1667
01:24:51,200 --> 01:24:55,640
Speaker 3: So you're getting a half a point discount on the

1668
01:24:55,640 --> 01:24:58,800
Speaker 3: most key number of all things to bet on on

1669
01:24:58,880 --> 01:25:02,600
Speaker 3: Ohio State this week, and that again, it it pains me.

1670
01:25:02,920 --> 01:25:07,720
Speaker 3: It pains me to my core. But Ohio State at three,

1671
01:25:08,000 --> 01:25:11,479
Speaker 3: It just that line makes no sense to me. And

1672
01:25:11,520 --> 01:25:13,120
Speaker 3: I know what you're thinking, Oh, well, we didn't know

1673
01:25:13,160 --> 01:25:14,920
Speaker 3: Oregon was gonna beat Ohio State in that game, so

1674
01:25:14,960 --> 01:25:19,240
Speaker 3: Oregon got a significant boost. Sure, but just based off

1675
01:25:19,280 --> 01:25:22,800
Speaker 3: the surface level handicap, Oregon is better than Penn State

1676
01:25:22,880 --> 01:25:24,840
Speaker 3: right now on a neutral Oregon will be about a

1677
01:25:24,880 --> 01:25:27,400
Speaker 3: three and a half point favorite over Penn State. And

1678
01:25:27,439 --> 01:25:29,760
Speaker 3: it's the same line. If anything, you're getting a little

1679
01:25:29,800 --> 01:25:32,639
Speaker 3: bit of a discount on Ohio State in this game.

1680
01:25:33,240 --> 01:25:35,200
Speaker 3: And I think a lot of it is perception what

1681
01:25:35,240 --> 01:25:37,160
Speaker 3: Ohio State did last week. As you mentioned, Rich, they

1682
01:25:37,160 --> 01:25:39,679
Speaker 3: played a very close game last week against Nebraska. Penn

1683
01:25:39,680 --> 01:25:42,480
Speaker 3: State had a little bit of distance between themselves in Wisconsin,

1684
01:25:42,560 --> 01:25:46,040
Speaker 3: but that was iffy at best with the quarterback injury

1685
01:25:46,040 --> 01:25:48,960
Speaker 3: to Alers. So I think before we get into any matchup,

1686
01:25:49,000 --> 01:25:51,160
Speaker 3: trainning on this game, like just the number says, yeah,

1687
01:25:51,200 --> 01:25:53,000
Speaker 3: you might get a little bit of a little bit

1688
01:25:53,040 --> 01:25:55,479
Speaker 3: of a discount on the buck guys in this spot.

1689
01:25:56,960 --> 01:25:59,599
Speaker 5: Well, the thing that I'm looking at in this game

1690
01:26:00,080 --> 01:26:03,960
Speaker 5: above everything else is the running game for both teams,

1691
01:26:04,040 --> 01:26:08,800
Speaker 5: Because play this out. If Penn State doesn't run the

1692
01:26:08,840 --> 01:26:13,439
Speaker 5: ball effectively, right, like have really good success, they have

1693
01:26:13,520 --> 01:26:17,160
Speaker 5: just moderate success. Like you just mentioned Jared, who are

1694
01:26:17,160 --> 01:26:21,519
Speaker 5: the wide receivers in this matchup right with Drew Aller

1695
01:26:22,400 --> 01:26:25,000
Speaker 5: not one hundred percent, maybe mixed in with a little

1696
01:26:25,280 --> 01:26:30,200
Speaker 5: bo pribula, you know, like if Penn State isn't running

1697
01:26:30,240 --> 01:26:34,000
Speaker 5: the ball effectively, that has a ripple effect. Same thing

1698
01:26:34,000 --> 01:26:37,560
Speaker 5: could be said for Ohio State. Where they've got the weapons.

1699
01:26:37,840 --> 01:26:42,760
Speaker 5: Jeremiah Smith ameccha Abuka. You've got first round talent right there.

1700
01:26:43,080 --> 01:26:46,080
Speaker 5: But the offensive line is shaky with pass blocking right

1701
01:26:46,120 --> 01:26:49,160
Speaker 5: So the running game is really important, I think for

1702
01:26:49,280 --> 01:26:52,960
Speaker 5: both teams for different reasons. It's the wide receivers of

1703
01:26:53,000 --> 01:26:56,240
Speaker 5: Penn State, it's the offensive line of Ohio State, and

1704
01:26:56,840 --> 01:26:59,760
Speaker 5: so if either team isn't running it effectively, that's gonna

1705
01:26:59,760 --> 01:27:01,280
Speaker 5: put a lot of stress on their offense.

1706
01:27:01,360 --> 01:27:04,960
Speaker 6: Overall, I agree with you and Penn State offensive line

1707
01:27:05,120 --> 01:27:09,800
Speaker 6: or offensive coordinator Colele nick Gi. I always forget his

1708
01:27:09,880 --> 01:27:12,720
Speaker 6: first name, but he's got such a unique last name.

1709
01:27:13,120 --> 01:27:15,960
Speaker 6: He is he's a little bit of a slow roller,

1710
01:27:16,000 --> 01:27:18,559
Speaker 6: and what I mean by that is.

1711
01:27:18,600 --> 01:27:23,880
Speaker 2: He he's he's pretty conservative early in games. You'll see

1712
01:27:23,880 --> 01:27:24,559
Speaker 2: this a lot.

1713
01:27:24,840 --> 01:27:28,280
Speaker 6: They won't really test the depth of a defense until

1714
01:27:28,960 --> 01:27:30,960
Speaker 6: until the game gets rolling on, and this might be

1715
01:27:31,200 --> 01:27:36,160
Speaker 6: an evaluation of personnel. Maybe Drew Aller from his evaluations

1716
01:27:36,680 --> 01:27:40,200
Speaker 6: during his time with him, appears to be a slow

1717
01:27:40,240 --> 01:27:42,320
Speaker 6: to warm quarterback. And I've played with some of these

1718
01:27:42,360 --> 01:27:44,479
Speaker 6: guys where it takes them a little while to get

1719
01:27:44,479 --> 01:27:49,240
Speaker 6: their accuracy going, where there's a little nerves and every

1720
01:27:49,240 --> 01:27:50,639
Speaker 6: single game in the first quarter.

1721
01:27:51,120 --> 01:27:53,719
Speaker 2: You know, some of those throws, those.

1722
01:27:53,640 --> 01:27:57,360
Speaker 6: Timing routes, they need to get a couple of them

1723
01:27:57,439 --> 01:28:00,880
Speaker 6: under their belt before they can really unleash a touch pass,

1724
01:28:00,960 --> 01:28:04,800
Speaker 6: you know, a corner route down the field, or you know,

1725
01:28:04,880 --> 01:28:07,080
Speaker 6: connect with a post route that you think might get

1726
01:28:07,120 --> 01:28:10,040
Speaker 6: behind the defense, because hey, when we show this look,

1727
01:28:10,280 --> 01:28:13,400
Speaker 6: that safety's gonna cheat and if this receiver out of

1728
01:28:13,439 --> 01:28:16,080
Speaker 6: the slot runs this route, we can connect with him.

1729
01:28:16,080 --> 01:28:17,240
Speaker 2: Well, if you have.

1730
01:28:17,160 --> 01:28:20,639
Speaker 6: A quarterback who's a little slow to get warm out

1731
01:28:20,680 --> 01:28:22,720
Speaker 6: of the gate, you don't want to you don't want

1732
01:28:22,760 --> 01:28:25,200
Speaker 6: to throw out that that play that you can't wait

1733
01:28:25,240 --> 01:28:27,720
Speaker 6: to exploit early in the game. You want to make

1734
01:28:27,760 --> 01:28:30,160
Speaker 6: sure that he's warmed up, he's got a ladder going,

1735
01:28:30,200 --> 01:28:33,559
Speaker 6: that he's confident in himself before dialing that up. So

1736
01:28:33,840 --> 01:28:38,559
Speaker 6: may not be necessarily codle Nicky's conservative play calling style.

1737
01:28:38,680 --> 01:28:41,839
Speaker 6: It could be his quarterback that he's a little nervous

1738
01:28:41,880 --> 01:28:44,840
Speaker 6: to unleash in the first quarter. Whereas you know there's

1739
01:28:44,880 --> 01:28:47,760
Speaker 6: certain players like you know I would call Patrick Mahomes

1740
01:28:48,000 --> 01:28:51,360
Speaker 6: back in his day, or you know a Baker Mayfield

1741
01:28:51,400 --> 01:28:54,920
Speaker 6: at Oklahoma who they just they're gun slingers. You know,

1742
01:28:54,960 --> 01:28:58,640
Speaker 6: you if they fall out of bed throwing four touchdowns,

1743
01:28:58,680 --> 01:29:01,639
Speaker 6: that's just who they are. You got to know your personnel,

1744
01:29:01,680 --> 01:29:04,320
Speaker 6: and I think cold Nicky knows his personnel, and I

1745
01:29:04,360 --> 01:29:07,080
Speaker 6: think so. To your point, Brian, the run game is

1746
01:29:07,120 --> 01:29:10,680
Speaker 6: gonna be really important, especially upfront for Penn State for

1747
01:29:10,720 --> 01:29:13,800
Speaker 6: those reasons, and then for obvious reasons for Ohio State

1748
01:29:13,840 --> 01:29:15,799
Speaker 6: with their injuries on the offensive line.

1749
01:29:15,880 --> 01:29:17,680
Speaker 2: If you could establish.

1750
01:29:17,200 --> 01:29:20,000
Speaker 6: The ground game, it means that you're not gonna be

1751
01:29:20,040 --> 01:29:23,200
Speaker 6: in must pass situations all game long, and Penn State

1752
01:29:23,280 --> 01:29:29,600
Speaker 6: will start feasting on your edge, on your your edge blockers.

1753
01:29:28,240 --> 01:29:28,880
Speaker 2: Slow to warm.

1754
01:29:29,360 --> 01:29:31,599
Speaker 3: It's an interesting analysis because I don't think they can

1755
01:29:31,640 --> 01:29:35,120
Speaker 3: afford to be that today. Yeah, I think if that's

1756
01:29:35,160 --> 01:29:39,240
Speaker 3: the tendency, today's the day to break tendency. Ohio State

1757
01:29:39,320 --> 01:29:42,000
Speaker 3: last week had a season low in points, rush yards,

1758
01:29:42,240 --> 01:29:44,280
Speaker 3: pass yards, total yards. They were one for ten on

1759
01:29:44,360 --> 01:29:47,120
Speaker 3: third downs. Maybe they were looking ahead to this game,

1760
01:29:47,360 --> 01:29:49,240
Speaker 3: but I don't know. I don't really buy in the

1761
01:29:49,240 --> 01:29:51,400
Speaker 3: look ahead spots in college football. These kids just go

1762
01:29:51,439 --> 01:29:54,679
Speaker 3: out there and play. Would it surprise you if I said,

1763
01:29:54,920 --> 01:29:59,479
Speaker 3: in terms of the efficiency rating, will Howard number one

1764
01:29:59,760 --> 01:30:04,080
Speaker 3: in weighted EPA per dropback this year like that doesn't

1765
01:30:04,120 --> 01:30:07,880
Speaker 3: pass the eye test at all. And I think a

1766
01:30:07,920 --> 01:30:11,000
Speaker 3: lot of it is circumstance, and you know, he has

1767
01:30:11,240 --> 01:30:15,480
Speaker 3: just an embarrassment of riches of weaponry on the outside.

1768
01:30:15,760 --> 01:30:18,080
Speaker 3: But it's the trenches and enrich I know you'll love

1769
01:30:18,120 --> 01:30:22,880
Speaker 3: this right trench warfare. The big concern is Ohio State's

1770
01:30:22,880 --> 01:30:24,760
Speaker 3: offensive line. Like I think if you were going to

1771
01:30:24,880 --> 01:30:28,120
Speaker 3: point to one thing in this game that will tip

1772
01:30:28,200 --> 01:30:32,000
Speaker 3: the scales in the home team's direction, it is getting

1773
01:30:32,000 --> 01:30:35,080
Speaker 3: off the ball quick for the defensive line. Ohio State's

1774
01:30:35,120 --> 01:30:37,240
Speaker 3: offensive line being a step slow because of the crowd.

1775
01:30:37,240 --> 01:30:38,760
Speaker 3: I wish this game was at night, but don't get

1776
01:30:38,760 --> 01:30:43,240
Speaker 3: me started on that. And can Ohio State protect Will Howard?

1777
01:30:43,600 --> 01:30:47,600
Speaker 3: You talk about the Josh Simmons injury against Oregon, he

1778
01:30:47,680 --> 01:30:49,840
Speaker 3: was the starting left tackle out for the season. They

1779
01:30:49,840 --> 01:30:53,280
Speaker 3: brought in this kid, Zen Mkowski, who filled in struggled mightily,

1780
01:30:53,320 --> 01:30:56,320
Speaker 3: allowed two sacks and four pressures against Nebraska. Later in

1781
01:30:56,360 --> 01:30:58,200
Speaker 3: the game, they moved their left guard kicked them out

1782
01:30:58,240 --> 01:31:01,759
Speaker 3: the tackle. That didn't work. They brought in another left guard,

1783
01:31:01,800 --> 01:31:04,559
Speaker 3: so which affects the running game. So you've got these

1784
01:31:04,640 --> 01:31:07,880
Speaker 3: pieces on Ohio State's offensive line like deck chairs getting

1785
01:31:07,960 --> 01:31:09,280
Speaker 3: pushed around and moved around.

1786
01:31:09,600 --> 01:31:12,920
Speaker 2: Makowski was carted off in the Nebraska game. Yeah, it's

1787
01:31:13,040 --> 01:31:13,479
Speaker 2: it's been.

1788
01:31:13,560 --> 01:31:15,960
Speaker 3: It's been bad. Like and I don't know what, I

1789
01:31:16,000 --> 01:31:19,920
Speaker 3: don't know what you do here, But with Dennis Sutton

1790
01:31:20,640 --> 01:31:23,280
Speaker 3: being hurt, and that's the see the the Aller injury

1791
01:31:23,320 --> 01:31:26,200
Speaker 3: is important. Obviously he's the quarterback. But I think that

1792
01:31:26,280 --> 01:31:28,760
Speaker 3: Dennis Sutton injury is huge. Like if or even if

1793
01:31:28,760 --> 01:31:32,920
Speaker 3: it's not Sutton, Penn State has to get pressure on

1794
01:31:33,000 --> 01:31:35,760
Speaker 3: the opposite edge. Obviously they're gonna double team Carter. I

1795
01:31:35,800 --> 01:31:39,040
Speaker 3: would double team Carter if I was Ohio State's offensive scheme.

1796
01:31:39,520 --> 01:31:42,960
Speaker 3: But can they get opposite pressure? Can they get interior pressure?

1797
01:31:43,200 --> 01:31:45,479
Speaker 3: Like can you get Will Howard off the spot? I

1798
01:31:45,479 --> 01:31:48,000
Speaker 3: think that is the only path to success for Penn

1799
01:31:48,000 --> 01:31:49,800
Speaker 3: State to win this game. I honestly do, or else

1800
01:31:49,840 --> 01:31:54,680
Speaker 3: those offensive skilled players are going to eat for the Buckeyes.

1801
01:31:55,160 --> 01:31:58,320
Speaker 5: I do love the angle of Will Howard wanting to

1802
01:31:58,320 --> 01:32:01,120
Speaker 5: go to Penn State. Yeah, and he's like you said,

1803
01:32:01,120 --> 01:32:03,840
Speaker 5: I wasn't good enough. You know, that's great motivation. But

1804
01:32:03,920 --> 01:32:07,160
Speaker 5: here's the thing, if your offensive line is shaky, that

1805
01:32:07,280 --> 01:32:08,519
Speaker 5: motivation doesn't really matter.

1806
01:32:09,760 --> 01:32:10,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, No, it's true.

1807
01:32:10,960 --> 01:32:13,800
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's very true. And to your point, Brian like,

1808
01:32:13,880 --> 01:32:17,000
Speaker 6: he's okay. So I don't know the numbers. I haven't

1809
01:32:17,040 --> 01:32:19,240
Speaker 6: taken a deep dive into the numbers on Will Hoard

1810
01:32:19,320 --> 01:32:23,080
Speaker 6: against pressure, but from what I've seen when he's pressured,

1811
01:32:23,160 --> 01:32:26,720
Speaker 6: and again, they just recently lost Simmons and he is

1812
01:32:27,280 --> 01:32:31,360
Speaker 6: going to be an NFL starter one day, so he's

1813
01:32:31,400 --> 01:32:33,240
Speaker 6: been well protected, you know.

1814
01:32:33,280 --> 01:32:34,280
Speaker 2: Suffice it to say.

1815
01:32:34,280 --> 01:32:36,599
Speaker 6: But I bet you if you took a deep dive

1816
01:32:36,600 --> 01:32:39,760
Speaker 6: and looked at his numbers under pressure, they're not good. No,

1817
01:32:40,160 --> 01:32:44,120
Speaker 6: they can't be, because anytime I've watched any Ohio State games,

1818
01:32:44,160 --> 01:32:47,080
Speaker 6: and anytime he has anyone in his face, he does

1819
01:32:47,120 --> 01:32:50,559
Speaker 6: something crazy with the football, I bet you he's throwing

1820
01:32:50,600 --> 01:32:52,920
Speaker 6: more turnover worthy passes than he is.

1821
01:32:52,920 --> 01:32:53,479
Speaker 2: That is normal.

1822
01:32:53,680 --> 01:32:55,920
Speaker 6: I mean, just there's certain guys who are used to

1823
01:32:56,479 --> 01:32:58,920
Speaker 6: throwing the football the clean pocket, and there's certain guys

1824
01:32:59,160 --> 01:33:01,720
Speaker 6: who aren't. And Will Howard just doesn't look like a

1825
01:33:01,720 --> 01:33:03,240
Speaker 6: guy who's comfortable under pressure.

1826
01:33:03,600 --> 01:33:07,719
Speaker 3: You're right, zero big time throws, three turnover worthy throws

1827
01:33:07,800 --> 01:33:12,320
Speaker 3: under pressure, four point four yards per ten, forty percent completion. Right,

1828
01:33:12,520 --> 01:33:15,160
Speaker 3: he's completing eighty percent of his passes when kept clean

1829
01:33:16,200 --> 01:33:18,880
Speaker 3: sixteen touchdowns to three picks, like it's just it's it's

1830
01:33:18,920 --> 01:33:23,840
Speaker 3: it's night and day. For Ohio State's defense, the Burke

1831
01:33:23,920 --> 01:33:26,040
Speaker 3: kid got a ton of heat against Oregon for giving

1832
01:33:26,080 --> 01:33:28,800
Speaker 3: up a lot of deep plays. But Jim Knowles is

1833
01:33:28,880 --> 01:33:31,800
Speaker 3: kind of in a straight jacket this year. He lost

1834
01:33:31,800 --> 01:33:34,719
Speaker 3: two NFL linebackers, and Ohio State's not as good stopping

1835
01:33:34,720 --> 01:33:36,200
Speaker 3: the run as they were last year. Because when you

1836
01:33:36,280 --> 01:33:38,479
Speaker 3: lose your linebackers, it's just natural that you're not gonna

1837
01:33:38,479 --> 01:33:41,519
Speaker 3: be as good against the run. So what Knowles is

1838
01:33:41,560 --> 01:33:43,519
Speaker 3: doing is he's committing that extra safety end.

1839
01:33:43,479 --> 01:33:43,840
Speaker 4: Of the box.

1840
01:33:43,880 --> 01:33:45,920
Speaker 3: It's putting Burke in the other corners on an island.

1841
01:33:45,920 --> 01:33:49,800
Speaker 3: So it makes sense to me why Ohio State's secondary

1842
01:33:50,200 --> 01:33:53,160
Speaker 3: and their defense is not the lockdown unit it was

1843
01:33:53,240 --> 01:33:55,320
Speaker 3: last year, because when you can't stop the run with

1844
01:33:55,360 --> 01:33:59,000
Speaker 3: your base front, you've got to move pieces around. I'll

1845
01:33:59,000 --> 01:34:00,600
Speaker 3: tell you who this is like to me, this is

1846
01:34:00,640 --> 01:34:03,040
Speaker 3: there's two guys in this game that will decide the

1847
01:34:03,080 --> 01:34:05,400
Speaker 3: game on the defensive side of the ball. Dennis Sutton

1848
01:34:05,439 --> 01:34:07,360
Speaker 3: getting pressure up. We talked about that for Penn State.

1849
01:34:07,520 --> 01:34:10,479
Speaker 3: For Ohio State, it's Caleb Downs. Ohio State pay Caleb

1850
01:34:10,479 --> 01:34:12,639
Speaker 3: Downs a boatload of money to come over from Alabama.

1851
01:34:12,760 --> 01:34:14,880
Speaker 3: I don't even want to know how much. Well you

1852
01:34:15,000 --> 01:34:17,120
Speaker 3: got this guy Warren for Penn State who's kind of

1853
01:34:17,200 --> 01:34:20,360
Speaker 3: like he's like a Heisman, Like he does everything. He

1854
01:34:20,400 --> 01:34:23,160
Speaker 3: can throw, he can run, he can pass, So I'm

1855
01:34:23,240 --> 01:34:27,320
Speaker 3: curious Caleb Downs the safety against Warren the tight end.

1856
01:34:27,400 --> 01:34:31,679
Speaker 3: To me, that's another matchup within the matchup. If Colton

1857
01:34:31,720 --> 01:34:34,400
Speaker 3: Nicky can get Warren out in space and get him

1858
01:34:34,439 --> 01:34:37,479
Speaker 3: some big time plays to get that crowd fired up,

1859
01:34:37,520 --> 01:34:41,439
Speaker 3: Like he threw a touchdown pass against USC caught when

1860
01:34:41,479 --> 01:34:43,519
Speaker 3: he snapped the ball and then tried to catch like

1861
01:34:43,880 --> 01:34:47,519
Speaker 3: they put him everywhere like it's crazy. So Caleb Downs

1862
01:34:47,600 --> 01:34:50,679
Speaker 3: against Warren is another one of those intriguing matchups today.

1863
01:34:50,680 --> 01:34:54,599
Speaker 3: And I think the secondary for Ohio State because they're

1864
01:34:54,920 --> 01:34:57,439
Speaker 3: being tasked with a lot of one on ones, they're

1865
01:34:57,439 --> 01:34:58,800
Speaker 3: gonna have to step up and make plays. But the

1866
01:34:58,840 --> 01:35:00,680
Speaker 3: problem is Penn State doesn't have an Evan Stewart or

1867
01:35:00,760 --> 01:35:04,120
Speaker 3: Tess Johnson on the outside to really stretch the field.

1868
01:35:04,160 --> 01:35:06,479
Speaker 3: And that's where I'm worried about this game being played

1869
01:35:06,520 --> 01:35:07,920
Speaker 3: in a phone boost for the Nittney Lions.

1870
01:35:07,920 --> 01:35:11,920
Speaker 5: On offense, good breakdown, Jared, I will just add a

1871
01:35:12,040 --> 01:35:17,280
Speaker 5: random cherry on top. You mentioned trench warfare, right, trench

1872
01:35:17,320 --> 01:35:18,520
Speaker 5: wrote warfare.

1873
01:35:18,560 --> 01:35:19,559
Speaker 4: Easy for me to say.

1874
01:35:19,880 --> 01:35:23,759
Speaker 5: Uh, there is a song by the band Slayer called

1875
01:35:23,920 --> 01:35:24,919
Speaker 5: chemical Warfare.

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Speaker 4: Just in case you weren't.

1877
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Speaker 2: You weren't aware of that. Yeah, there you go.

1878
01:35:28,120 --> 01:35:29,439
Speaker 4: There's a random cherry on top.

1879
01:35:30,040 --> 01:35:32,040
Speaker 2: Much. That's very good. I appreciate that.

1880
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Speaker 5: That's Rich Dronberger, Penn State All American Jared Smith, FSR

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Speaker 4: I'm Brian know.

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Speaker 5: and M at South Carolina night game might get weird

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01:36:42,640 --> 01:36:45,639
Speaker 5: on the road in the sec you got South Carolina

1904
01:36:45,680 --> 01:36:50,280
Speaker 5: they are a three point home underdog. And how about

1905
01:36:50,320 --> 01:36:53,040
Speaker 5: Marcel Reid last week for Texas A and M. He

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01:36:53,120 --> 01:36:57,439
Speaker 5: comes into the game against LSU and boom like magic,

1907
01:36:57,960 --> 01:37:01,880
Speaker 5: three rushing touchdowns and Texas A and M put it

1908
01:37:01,920 --> 01:37:04,719
Speaker 5: on LSU when the game was more than in doubt.

1909
01:37:05,640 --> 01:37:09,400
Speaker 5: But today or tonight, I should say against South Carolina man,

1910
01:37:09,479 --> 01:37:14,200
Speaker 5: that pass rush and that pass defense is real. And

1911
01:37:14,280 --> 01:37:18,280
Speaker 5: if Texas A and M can't do damage on the ground,

1912
01:37:18,479 --> 01:37:21,840
Speaker 5: they are in trouble. So the key to a win

1913
01:37:21,880 --> 01:37:24,960
Speaker 5: tonight absolutely is Texas A and M's running game in

1914
01:37:25,120 --> 01:37:29,599
Speaker 5: defense could be a low scoring just slobbern knocker type game,

1915
01:37:29,680 --> 01:37:31,680
Speaker 5: but if Texas A and M has to put it

1916
01:37:31,680 --> 01:37:33,000
Speaker 5: in the air against South Carolina.

1917
01:37:33,080 --> 01:37:34,120
Speaker 4: I don't love their chances.

1918
01:37:34,360 --> 01:37:38,160
Speaker 6: Yeah yeah, I agree with you. And let's so Texas

1919
01:37:38,200 --> 01:37:40,760
Speaker 6: A and M. Man, let's break down what they've done

1920
01:37:40,760 --> 01:37:43,559
Speaker 6: so far this season. Sole possession of the first place

1921
01:37:43,640 --> 01:37:46,800
Speaker 6: spot in the SEC right now. If they win the

1922
01:37:46,840 --> 01:37:52,040
Speaker 6: remaining schedule, they will, you know, they'll clinch a playoff spot.

1923
01:37:52,200 --> 01:37:56,639
Speaker 6: You know, they'll they'll put themselves in a position where

1924
01:37:56,720 --> 01:38:01,160
Speaker 6: they'll represent the SEC as champions. And and here we go,

1925
01:38:01,439 --> 01:38:05,880
Speaker 6: so tons to play for tough draw here against South Carolina.

1926
01:38:06,600 --> 01:38:12,040
Speaker 6: This is what a ruiner looks like like. South Carolina

1927
01:38:12,120 --> 01:38:16,040
Speaker 6: is a team that can ruin your party, and that's

1928
01:38:16,080 --> 01:38:18,880
Speaker 6: what they plan to do today, especially since A and

1929
01:38:19,040 --> 01:38:21,479
Speaker 6: M has a choice to make now all of a sudden,

1930
01:38:21,960 --> 01:38:25,440
Speaker 6: And the old saying goes, when you have two starting quarterbacks,

1931
01:38:25,479 --> 01:38:27,200
Speaker 6: you don't have a starting quarterback.

1932
01:38:27,720 --> 01:38:30,400
Speaker 2: And that's kind of what it feels like right now.

1933
01:38:30,960 --> 01:38:33,719
Speaker 6: Where they needed a spark off the bench against LSU,

1934
01:38:33,760 --> 01:38:35,640
Speaker 6: and they got it from Reid, But then you have

1935
01:38:35,680 --> 01:38:37,520
Speaker 6: Wegman there who's struggling.

1936
01:38:37,680 --> 01:38:39,080
Speaker 2: What do you do? What do you do?

1937
01:38:39,240 --> 01:38:42,679
Speaker 6: So a lot of decisions to be made for what's

1938
01:38:42,800 --> 01:38:45,960
Speaker 6: overwhelmingly been a pretty successful season for A and M.

1939
01:38:46,479 --> 01:38:48,360
Speaker 3: Isn't that isn't that great? That spur I think it

1940
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Speaker 3: was a Spurrier quote like thirty years ago. It still

1941
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Speaker 3: holds water today.

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Speaker 2: Yep.

1943
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Speaker 3: This is the first true big road test for A

1944
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Speaker 3: and M. All of their tough games have been at home.

1945
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Speaker 3: And if you want to about isolating a specific position

1946
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Speaker 3: group and then putting that position group on a pedestal

1947
01:39:06,520 --> 01:39:13,000
Speaker 3: in terms of success, these two defensive lines, goodness gracious, yeah,

1948
01:39:13,040 --> 01:39:16,280
Speaker 3: I mean it's I think you've got five first round

1949
01:39:16,320 --> 01:39:19,200
Speaker 3: picks on the defensive lines today for both of these teams.

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Speaker 3: It's insane. Here's the difference. South Carolina's offensive line is

1951
01:39:25,479 --> 01:39:29,280
Speaker 3: significantly worse than A and M's offensive line. So while

1952
01:39:29,320 --> 01:39:32,400
Speaker 3: A and M they can throw some change ups at you,

1953
01:39:32,479 --> 01:39:35,800
Speaker 3: right like, maybe we get Wegman who's the passer, Maybe

1954
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Speaker 3: we get Reid who's the runner. Make South Carolina prepare

1955
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Speaker 3: for both. We know what Leonora Sellers is as a quarterback,

1956
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Speaker 3: and we know that South Carolina's offensive line isn't great.

1957
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Speaker 3: I think that's where Mike Elko, who is elite at

1958
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Speaker 3: creating havoc, has a bit of an edge in this game.

1959
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Speaker 3: But again, tough road game for a young like if

1960
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Speaker 3: it is Marcel Reid, young quarterback making a career start

1961
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Speaker 3: on the road or first big start on the road.

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Speaker 3: I think that's where I struggle a little bit with

1963
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Speaker 3: laying it with A and M. But man, Mike Elko, Havoc, Leonora,

1964
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Speaker 3: Seller's inexperienced quarterback that is turnover prone. This game could

1965
01:40:15,479 --> 01:40:17,439
Speaker 3: be wrecked by that A and M defense.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, this could be I mean, how low could this

1967
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Speaker 5: score be?

1968
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Speaker 3: Sixy?

1969
01:40:24,720 --> 01:40:28,439
Speaker 5: Like we're talking it's gonna be seventeen thirteen, first team

1970
01:40:28,479 --> 01:40:29,040
Speaker 5: to twenty?

1971
01:40:29,240 --> 01:40:30,920
Speaker 4: When's this thing? What do you How low are we

1972
01:40:31,040 --> 01:40:31,679
Speaker 4: talking here?

1973
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Speaker 2: It could be a race to twenty?

1974
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Speaker 6: I think that you know what, Look if it is

1975
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Speaker 6: read Okay, who saved the team's victory over LSU a

1976
01:40:40,760 --> 01:40:45,479
Speaker 6: week ago, they they have to have a run dominant

1977
01:40:45,560 --> 01:40:48,960
Speaker 6: offense today. I mean, it's just your best path to success.

1978
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Speaker 6: So you got Reid, you have Moss, you have Daniels.

1979
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Speaker 6: That's that's going to be what you're gonna see coming

1980
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Speaker 6: out of that offensive backfield for A and M. And

1981
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Speaker 6: then so the question obviously that you have to pose

1982
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Speaker 6: is well, how's that gonna look against South Carolina's defense,

1983
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Speaker 6: which is a pretty decent defense.

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Speaker 2: So it is it's.

1985
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Speaker 6: Going to be a little bit of the uh, what

1986
01:41:14,120 --> 01:41:18,400
Speaker 6: is it the unstoppable force against the insurmountable object movable

1987
01:41:18,640 --> 01:41:19,719
Speaker 6: immovable object?

1988
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Speaker 2: Thank you? Yeah, like it's it's.

1989
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Speaker 3: Got able's pretty good too.

1990
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Speaker 2: I like that. Yeah, it's gonna be a This is

1991
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Speaker 2: going to be.

1992
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Speaker 6: A clash, like of two bulls in the rings slamming

1993
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Speaker 6: horns together, and and I can't wait for it.

1994
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Speaker 2: I really think this is this game's not gonna have.

1995
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Speaker 6: This game's not very buzzworthy because of other things going

1996
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Speaker 6: on elsewhere, but this has enormous implications on the landscape

1997
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Speaker 6: of the playoff picture because of where Texas A and

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Speaker 6: M currently is seated.

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Speaker 3: Well, there's no night games tonight, which is weird. This

2000
01:41:52,960 --> 01:41:55,320
Speaker 3: is the last game, like to get pit SMU eight

2001
01:41:55,360 --> 01:41:59,519
Speaker 3: o'clock eastern TCU Baylor, eight o'clock eastern, Kentucky, Tennessee seven

2002
01:41:59,640 --> 01:42:01,240
Speaker 3: forty five in this game, Like this is like one

2003
01:42:01,280 --> 01:42:02,840
Speaker 3: of the last games on the board today, so it

2004
01:42:02,880 --> 01:42:05,840
Speaker 3: will get a little bit of attention. So like this

2005
01:42:05,880 --> 01:42:07,839
Speaker 3: is where my brain goes when I look at these numbers,

2006
01:42:07,840 --> 01:42:10,320
Speaker 3: Like you're like, oh wow, South Carolina we're only catching three.

2007
01:42:10,600 --> 01:42:14,360
Speaker 3: What's this number? Like South Carolina had Bama on the ropes,

2008
01:42:14,560 --> 01:42:17,479
Speaker 3: that game was tight. South Carolina had LSU. We were

2009
01:42:17,600 --> 01:42:20,040
Speaker 3: we were in DC for that game, Brian watching that

2010
01:42:20,200 --> 01:42:23,519
Speaker 3: South Carolina LSU game. That game was Banana's. That game

2011
01:42:23,640 --> 01:42:25,720
Speaker 3: was back and forth. Could have anyone could have won,

2012
01:42:26,040 --> 01:42:28,800
Speaker 3: Like South Carolina might have been favored in this game

2013
01:42:28,920 --> 01:42:31,920
Speaker 3: if they pulled off one of those upsets. So those

2014
01:42:32,080 --> 01:42:35,920
Speaker 3: margins for error are so thin in college football South

2015
01:42:35,960 --> 01:42:39,080
Speaker 3: Carolina season, if they get one of those games to

2016
01:42:39,160 --> 01:42:42,639
Speaker 3: go their way, Bama or LSU, this is a very

2017
01:42:42,640 --> 01:42:45,479
Speaker 3: different matchup, very different vibe we're talking about in this game.

2018
01:42:45,600 --> 01:42:47,479
Speaker 3: I think A and M is the better team. I

2019
01:42:47,520 --> 01:42:49,800
Speaker 3: really like Mike Elko as a coach. I think the

2020
01:42:49,840 --> 01:42:51,920
Speaker 3: bet to make in this game, So, if you think

2021
01:42:51,920 --> 01:42:54,240
Speaker 3: A and M is gonna win this game, the bet

2022
01:42:54,280 --> 01:42:57,160
Speaker 3: to make is for them to make the playoff, because

2023
01:42:57,200 --> 01:43:00,840
Speaker 3: that price is like minus one zh five, whereas the

2024
01:43:00,880 --> 01:43:04,120
Speaker 3: money line price today is like minus one thirty minus

2025
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Speaker 3: one forty something like that. If you think A and

2026
01:43:06,720 --> 01:43:10,280
Speaker 3: M is gonna win this game, they're a zero loss

2027
01:43:10,479 --> 01:43:14,040
Speaker 3: SEC team with very little left on the schedule except

2028
01:43:14,040 --> 01:43:16,840
Speaker 3: for Texas at home. Even if they lose that game

2029
01:43:16,960 --> 01:43:20,760
Speaker 3: and they're a one loss SEC team, they're going to

2030
01:43:20,800 --> 01:43:25,639
Speaker 3: the Playofflake you play the more quote playoff. They're going.

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Speaker 5: All right, coming up next s these teams are undefeated.

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Speaker 5: Now we're talking about him. We are talking about Isaac Lohencron,

2033
01:43:36,760 --> 01:43:39,519
Speaker 5: who's talking about everything in the sports world right now.

2034
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Speaker 4: He's got the latest. I Low what is going on, buddy.

2035
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Speaker 8: And we're talking about just twenty eight minutes to go

2036
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Speaker 8: until kickoff of today's college football action headline by number

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Speaker 8: three Penn State hosting fourth ranked Ohio State. Penn State

2038
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Speaker 8: quarterback Drew Aller is set to play after missing the

2039
01:43:55,560 --> 01:43:58,360
Speaker 8: second half of last week's win over Wisconsin because of

2040
01:43:58,400 --> 01:44:00,400
Speaker 8: a left knee injury. Also coming up at the top

2041
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Speaker 8: of the hour, number five Miami at eight and oh

2042
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Speaker 8: hosting Duke at hard Rock Stadium, Nineteenth ranked Ole Miss

2043
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Speaker 8: visiting Arkansas, Number twenty one Navy at seven and zero

2044
01:44:10,080 --> 01:44:13,920
Speaker 8: hosting Air Force, and number twenty four Illinois taken on Minnesota.

2045
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Speaker 8: Finally fellas on Friday night, Colombia hosted Yale Big Ivy

2046
01:44:21,360 --> 01:44:26,080
Speaker 8: League showdown there, and on an extra point attempt after

2047
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Speaker 8: a Yale touchdown, Colombia tried to distract Yale placekicker Nick

2048
01:44:32,520 --> 01:44:37,000
Speaker 8: Conforty by having the stadium video board directly behind the

2049
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Speaker 8: uprights show the image of the statue of Dwayne Wade

2050
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Speaker 8: that was recently unveiled in Miami. Conforty, to his credit,

2051
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Speaker 8: made the kick. Columbia, however, wound up winning the game

2052
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Speaker 8: thirteen to ten. No word yet on whether Conforti had

2053
01:44:54,760 --> 01:44:58,040
Speaker 8: nightmares about the image like we all did after the contest.

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Speaker 5: Back to you, thank You, I LO So it is

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Speaker 5: Fox Sports Radio's Countdown to kick Off, presented by bet MGM.

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Speaker 5: If you missed anything on today's show, be sure to

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2059
01:45:11,000 --> 01:45:13,760
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Speaker 5: review it again. Just search Fox Sports Radio wherever you

2061
01:45:16,520 --> 01:45:19,320
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01:45:19,360 --> 01:45:21,880
Speaker 5: after we get off the air. I don't know what

2063
01:45:21,920 --> 01:45:24,120
Speaker 5: they were thinking when they made the d Wade statue.

2064
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Speaker 4: It looks nothing like the guy.

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Speaker 3: It's terrible, you know, it's disgraceful.

2066
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Speaker 4: Imagine if that was like a Pro Football Hall of

2067
01:45:30,840 --> 01:45:31,519
Speaker 4: Fame bust.

2068
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Speaker 5: They're like, that's an artistic, loose interpretation of what Eli

2069
01:45:36,880 --> 01:45:39,000
Speaker 5: Manning looks like. You know, and you're like, but that

2070
01:45:39,000 --> 01:45:42,400
Speaker 5: looks nothing like Eli Manning. That's kind of weird. That's

2071
01:45:42,400 --> 01:45:44,439
Speaker 5: what we get with the d Wade statue. Hey, how

2072
01:45:44,479 --> 01:45:47,000
Speaker 5: about these undefeated teams not getting a whole lot of

2073
01:45:47,040 --> 01:45:50,120
Speaker 5: buzz with a good reason at least in the first

2074
01:45:50,160 --> 01:45:53,559
Speaker 5: matchup ranked versus ranked, and no one cares. Exactly, no

2075
01:45:53,600 --> 01:45:56,599
Speaker 5: one cares unless you're a fan of Pittsburgh or SMU,

2076
01:45:56,800 --> 01:46:00,400
Speaker 5: or you're a better Pittsburgh. Pitt is seven and oh,

2077
01:46:00,720 --> 01:46:04,000
Speaker 5: SMU seven and one. But you look at pitt and

2078
01:46:04,040 --> 01:46:07,400
Speaker 5: it's just like, man, goodness their defense outscored their offense

2079
01:46:07,520 --> 01:46:11,480
Speaker 5: last week, or is just a turnover fest against Syracuse

2080
01:46:11,760 --> 01:46:15,639
Speaker 5: and their last game and man, this this pit offense

2081
01:46:15,760 --> 01:46:18,320
Speaker 5: is nothing to write home about. You know, scoreless in

2082
01:46:18,320 --> 01:46:23,160
Speaker 5: the last forty minutes against cal SMU they you know,

2083
01:46:23,200 --> 01:46:27,000
Speaker 5: they won last week somehow when they turned the football

2084
01:46:27,040 --> 01:46:30,240
Speaker 5: over six times and they still won the game. Their

2085
01:46:30,240 --> 01:46:34,200
Speaker 5: only losses against BYU so a pitt trying to stay unbeaten,

2086
01:46:34,280 --> 01:46:38,639
Speaker 5: and also to Sandwich two and one, Iowa State also

2087
01:46:38,720 --> 01:46:41,200
Speaker 5: seven and oh. They're hosting Texas Tech, who is just

2088
01:46:41,240 --> 01:46:44,559
Speaker 5: all sorts of goofy their offense, they're scoring thirty eight

2089
01:46:44,560 --> 01:46:48,880
Speaker 5: points per game, but it's Jekyl and Hide with them

2090
01:46:49,040 --> 01:46:52,719
Speaker 5: as a team collectively as Iowa State, they tried to

2091
01:46:52,760 --> 01:46:55,679
Speaker 5: start eight to oh for the first time in program history.

2092
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Speaker 4: How about that for the Cyclones?

2093
01:46:57,280 --> 01:46:59,280
Speaker 2: Wow? Yeah, I didn't know that little note.

2094
01:46:59,360 --> 01:47:03,639
Speaker 6: And yeah, to your point about SMU Pit, I guess, Okay,

2095
01:47:03,680 --> 01:47:06,760
Speaker 6: here's the the best way I can sell this game.

2096
01:47:07,120 --> 01:47:10,360
Speaker 6: Like if I were a TV executive and I was like,

2097
01:47:10,520 --> 01:47:13,080
Speaker 6: here's the reason why you need to turn on whatever

2098
01:47:13,160 --> 01:47:19,400
Speaker 6: it is, Fox, ESPN, the Disney Network at large, I

2099
01:47:19,439 --> 01:47:23,439
Speaker 6: would say this pecc Yeah, peco beg you please stream

2100
01:47:23,560 --> 01:47:28,519
Speaker 6: us on Hulu. And here's why. It's because whoever wins

2101
01:47:28,560 --> 01:47:35,320
Speaker 6: this game is going to be among the three challengers

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Speaker 6: to win the ACC. So SMU Pit, whoever emerges with

2103
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Speaker 6: the victory and remains undefeated, that that either one of

2104
01:47:46,160 --> 01:47:51,120
Speaker 6: them will stand I guess the best challenge. Uh, but

2105
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Speaker 6: it would be a three horse race then between Clemson,

2106
01:47:54,400 --> 01:47:58,320
Speaker 6: Miami and either Pit or SMU at the conclusion of

2107
01:47:58,320 --> 01:48:04,360
Speaker 6: this game. So this does have ACC championship implications based.

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Speaker 2: On outcome today. That's the best way I could sell it.

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01:48:06,760 --> 01:48:09,800
Speaker 3: So here's an and I give SMU a lot of credit.

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Speaker 2: I don't know how.

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Speaker 3: First of all, how the heck do you go on

2112
01:48:12,120 --> 01:48:13,639
Speaker 3: the road in conference play and win a game where

2113
01:48:13,680 --> 01:48:15,160
Speaker 3: you turned it over six times and the other team

2114
01:48:15,160 --> 01:48:17,840
Speaker 3: turned it over zero times. I think that that game

2115
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Speaker 3: deserves its own thirty for thirty. But SMU, this is impressive.

2116
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Speaker 3: This is impressive, and I'm gonna give SMU a ton

2117
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Speaker 3: of credit for it. The first team ever to start

2118
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Speaker 3: four and zho in a Power for Conference in their

2119
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Speaker 3: first transition year from a group of five. That's impressive.

2120
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Speaker 3: When you manage up and you go from the American

2121
01:48:43,400 --> 01:48:45,800
Speaker 3: to the ACC, and I know the ACC is not

2122
01:48:46,720 --> 01:48:50,200
Speaker 3: very good, but it's still a Power for Conference. You're

2123
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Speaker 3: facing a very different level of competition, and you start

2124
01:48:52,960 --> 01:48:55,920
Speaker 3: undefeated in conference play for the first time ever. Making

2125
01:48:55,960 --> 01:49:00,000
Speaker 3: that leap is really impressive. Pitt has got some quarterback issues.

2126
01:49:00,200 --> 01:49:02,880
Speaker 3: This is why SMU's laying a big number. Eli Holstein.

2127
01:49:03,240 --> 01:49:05,559
Speaker 3: He got hurt in the second half against Syracuse last week.

2128
01:49:05,760 --> 01:49:08,160
Speaker 3: They didn't need him because they had three pick sixes

2129
01:49:08,160 --> 01:49:09,840
Speaker 3: in the game, which is you want to talk about

2130
01:49:09,880 --> 01:49:11,360
Speaker 3: regression for turnover margin.

2131
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Speaker 2: Pitt had five turnovers, three pick sixes.

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Speaker 3: Last week, SMU went zero for six in the turnover department,

2133
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Speaker 3: and now those teams play each other this week. I

2134
01:49:18,840 --> 01:49:20,920
Speaker 3: would expect some aggression to the mean there. But this

2135
01:49:21,000 --> 01:49:23,599
Speaker 3: PIT offense is kind of quirky, right. They brought over

2136
01:49:23,720 --> 01:49:27,599
Speaker 3: Kde Bell from Western Carolina the OC really running gun,

2137
01:49:27,640 --> 01:49:30,360
Speaker 3: spread it out. Their best player on offense is a

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Speaker 3: five to eight running back who's been really good this year,

2139
01:49:33,040 --> 01:49:35,960
Speaker 3: Desmond Reid. But he's five eight. He's in the ACC now,

2140
01:49:36,000 --> 01:49:38,599
Speaker 3: he's coming home from Western Carolina FRO where he played

2141
01:49:38,600 --> 01:49:40,920
Speaker 3: in the FCS, So I wouldn't be shocked if that

2142
01:49:41,000 --> 01:49:43,400
Speaker 3: usage rate and his productivity tailed off a little bit.

2143
01:49:43,479 --> 01:49:46,880
Speaker 3: SMU's got a great run defense for SMU. They got

2144
01:49:46,960 --> 01:49:49,320
Speaker 3: quarterback issues too. Jennings got hurt last week. They've got

2145
01:49:49,320 --> 01:49:51,880
Speaker 3: Preston Stone, who's a capable backup. This is a kind

2146
01:49:51,880 --> 01:49:54,880
Speaker 3: of a layoff game for me. I think seven's the

2147
01:49:54,920 --> 01:49:56,920
Speaker 3: right number. I hope SMU wins. I bet him to

2148
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Speaker 3: win the ACC. I need either Clemson or Miami to

2149
01:49:59,240 --> 01:50:01,080
Speaker 3: lose down the stretch for them to get into that game.

2150
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Speaker 3: But I think this is the right number. I think

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Speaker 3: SMU wins. I don't know how big of a blowout

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Speaker 3: it is because I just don't know what Pitt's quarterback

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01:50:07,600 --> 01:50:08,360
Speaker 3: situation will be.

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Speaker 5: By the way, a note to pass along Brett McMurphy.

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01:50:11,640 --> 01:50:16,559
Speaker 5: He posted this on Twitter slash x. Still can't get

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01:50:16,680 --> 01:50:21,000
Speaker 5: used to it. Army quarterback Bryson Daily is out today

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01:50:21,400 --> 01:50:26,720
Speaker 5: against air Force with an undisclosed injury slash illness and

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01:50:27,040 --> 01:50:29,920
Speaker 5: a lot of intrigue on this game. Air Force is

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01:50:29,960 --> 01:50:34,000
Speaker 5: freaking terrible, but Army another service academy. They were laying

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01:50:34,040 --> 01:50:37,719
Speaker 5: twenty two in the hook. But this news has changed

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01:50:37,760 --> 01:50:41,439
Speaker 5: the spread dramatically. We're seeing eighteen's now eighteen and a

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01:50:41,520 --> 01:50:45,800
Speaker 5: half for Army, and you look at Bryson Daily six

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01:50:45,880 --> 01:50:50,479
Speaker 5: touchdowns in his last game against East Carolina, five rushing,

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01:50:50,640 --> 01:50:55,080
Speaker 5: one passing, Armies off a bye and so this points

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01:50:55,120 --> 01:50:57,880
Speaker 5: bread It's changed quite a bit with this news dropping

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Speaker 5: this morning.

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Speaker 4: Just pass that along.

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Speaker 6: So interesting about the triple option. For as important as

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Speaker 6: we evaluate and value quarterbacks in today's game, spread offenses

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Speaker 6: five wide receiver sets, you know, oftentimes maybe just a

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01:51:15,520 --> 01:51:19,320
Speaker 6: single back alongside the quarterback in the backfield, So so

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01:51:19,479 --> 01:51:22,760
Speaker 6: much of the offense goes through the quarterback position in

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01:51:22,840 --> 01:51:26,760
Speaker 6: the triple option, everything goes through the quarterback. I mean,

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Speaker 6: your quarterback is typically in the triple option one of

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01:51:29,479 --> 01:51:32,960
Speaker 6: your if not your leading rusher. And then obviously, if

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01:51:33,000 --> 01:51:35,599
Speaker 6: you have a quarterback with any sort of arm talent,

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01:51:36,120 --> 01:51:39,679
Speaker 6: you can fool teams real fast because so many bodies

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01:51:39,680 --> 01:51:41,799
Speaker 6: are committed to the line of scrimmage in the triple

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01:51:41,840 --> 01:51:44,360
Speaker 6: option that you could you could throw it over at

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01:51:44,400 --> 01:51:47,519
Speaker 6: the top of anybody's head, basically, because you're gonna have

2181
01:51:47,520 --> 01:51:51,240
Speaker 6: home run balls every single game, there's gonna be opportunities there.

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01:51:51,560 --> 01:51:54,759
Speaker 6: So that doesn't shock me at all that a option

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01:51:54,960 --> 01:51:58,679
Speaker 6: quarterback when when there's an injury, the points spread gets

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01:51:58,840 --> 01:52:04,240
Speaker 6: disastrously the opposite direction. The other thing is, I'm fairly

2185
01:52:04,320 --> 01:52:07,200
Speaker 6: certain that is one of the most bet over tickets

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01:52:07,840 --> 01:52:11,240
Speaker 6: on the day, so I'm very curious to see how

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01:52:11,320 --> 01:52:13,479
Speaker 6: where the total goes on that game as well.

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01:52:13,520 --> 01:52:14,360
Speaker 4: Thirty eight and a half.

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01:52:14,560 --> 01:52:17,880
Speaker 11: It's low, oh yeah, okay, yeah, And but usually so

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01:52:18,040 --> 01:52:20,720
Speaker 11: the way I view these games, when the total is

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01:52:20,800 --> 01:52:24,559
Speaker 11: super low yeah and the favorite is super wide, I

2192
01:52:24,640 --> 01:52:26,880
Speaker 11: tend to like the favorite because basically what it's.

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01:52:26,760 --> 01:52:30,439
Speaker 3: Saying is the underdog is is really bad.

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01:52:30,520 --> 01:52:34,480
Speaker 12: If the favorite the totals thirty eight and the spreads eighteen,

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01:52:36,400 --> 01:52:39,040
Speaker 12: like in the main Oklahoma game today, for example, the

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01:52:39,080 --> 01:52:41,920
Speaker 12: totals forty eight and the spreads thirty seven. Like that's

2197
01:52:41,960 --> 01:52:43,880
Speaker 12: a game where they really don't have a whole lot

2198
01:52:43,880 --> 01:52:45,800
Speaker 12: of value on the underdog.

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Speaker 3: You might hear about this game in the next segment.

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01:52:48,200 --> 01:52:50,160
Speaker 3: We've been talking about it on our group chat this

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01:52:50,240 --> 01:52:52,639
Speaker 3: morning a little bit, and I think the army might

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01:52:52,720 --> 01:52:56,479
Speaker 3: be might still be the play army, might still be

2203
01:52:56,479 --> 01:52:59,679
Speaker 3: the play guys, even though the numbers moving against them.

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01:53:00,120 --> 01:53:03,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, well, we'll see see if you have the guts

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01:53:04,240 --> 01:53:04,960
Speaker 5: with a backup.

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01:53:05,200 --> 01:53:08,559
Speaker 3: You know, records terrible this year. What do I got

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01:53:08,560 --> 01:53:10,880
Speaker 3: to lose drinking Mayo? Anyways, at the end of the

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01:53:10,920 --> 01:53:11,799
Speaker 3: year with you bums.

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Speaker 4: Hey man, you bums.

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Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, I still have to drink the Mayo.

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01:53:16,000 --> 01:53:19,720
Speaker 5: Yeah man, yeah, no doubt.

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Speaker 6: I'm so glad you brought that up. I will not

2213
01:53:24,360 --> 01:53:26,960
Speaker 6: welch on this belt. But even though I do not

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01:53:27,200 --> 01:53:29,439
Speaker 6: want to do that, maybe we'll do it together this year.

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Speaker 3: If I end up tanking, continuously tanking through the super cheers,

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Speaker 4: Yea, bro, take it on death.

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Speaker 5: to that. We got some picks to make.

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01:54:47,760 --> 01:54:52,520
Speaker 2: Let's do it rapid fire.

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Speaker 3: All right, Jared, we start with you. What do you like, Well,

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Speaker 3: let's start with these. All games start in about ten minutes.

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01:54:59,520 --> 01:55:04,920
Speaker 3: Get these picks now. Memphis laying seven at UTSA. This

2242
01:55:05,000 --> 01:55:08,880
Speaker 3: game is all about explosive plays. UTSA has allowed thirty

2243
01:55:08,960 --> 01:55:12,000
Speaker 3: four passes of twenty plus yards this year. Only four

2244
01:55:12,080 --> 01:55:15,440
Speaker 3: teams in the country have allowed more. Woof Memphis a

2245
01:55:15,680 --> 01:55:18,560
Speaker 3: very pass happy team, one of the most pass happy

2246
01:55:18,600 --> 01:55:20,760
Speaker 3: in all of college football. They have an experienced quarterback

2247
01:55:20,800 --> 01:55:24,440
Speaker 3: set and again nineteen big time throws this year. That's

2248
01:55:24,520 --> 01:55:27,240
Speaker 3: sixth most in the country, behind just beyond guys like

2249
01:55:27,320 --> 01:55:29,760
Speaker 3: Sanders and Lord and McCord, some of the best deep

2250
01:55:29,760 --> 01:55:33,680
Speaker 3: throwers in the game. I think Memphis explosive plays past UTSA.

2251
01:55:33,720 --> 01:55:35,880
Speaker 3: They cover the seven. I'm laying it with Army today.

2252
01:55:35,880 --> 01:55:38,040
Speaker 3: This number was twenty two and a half. Bryce and

2253
01:55:38,120 --> 01:55:41,480
Speaker 3: Valley announced out the line dropped four points. I don't

2254
01:55:41,520 --> 01:55:45,000
Speaker 3: care you know why. Air Force stinks. They are er

2255
01:55:45,440 --> 01:55:48,600
Speaker 3: and seven against the spread this year. Not just oero

2256
01:55:48,600 --> 01:55:51,880
Speaker 3: for winning games, but they can't even cover numbers, being

2257
01:55:51,920 --> 01:55:54,240
Speaker 3: outscored by over twelve points per game. Against the spread.

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01:55:54,320 --> 01:55:56,960
Speaker 3: Dwayne Coleman next man up, backup quarterback for Army, big

2259
01:55:56,960 --> 01:56:00,240
Speaker 3: game at home, they cover the number, and guys, I'm

2260
01:56:00,240 --> 01:56:03,480
Speaker 3: doing it. I'm hedging my happiness. I'm laying three points

2261
01:56:03,480 --> 01:56:06,040
Speaker 3: with Ohio State at Penn State today. And here's the

2262
01:56:06,080 --> 01:56:09,880
Speaker 3: reason why. I don't think we have the offense to

2263
01:56:10,160 --> 01:56:12,680
Speaker 3: match this Ohio State team blow for blow.

2264
01:56:13,040 --> 01:56:14,280
Speaker 2: And I'm a little bit.

2265
01:56:14,200 --> 01:56:17,960
Speaker 3: Concerned that the game script tilt's negative and Drew Aller's

2266
01:56:18,040 --> 01:56:20,600
Speaker 3: knee is not one hundred percent, and I think Ohio

2267
01:56:20,640 --> 01:56:23,200
Speaker 3: State comes into the Happy Valley and covers today. I'm sorry, everybody,

2268
01:56:23,320 --> 01:56:24,840
Speaker 3: I apologize, but I've got to do it.

2269
01:56:25,240 --> 01:56:26,440
Speaker 4: No apologies here.

2270
01:56:26,520 --> 01:56:28,680
Speaker 6: You do that to me Art all of a sudden,

2271
01:56:28,760 --> 01:56:32,040
Speaker 6: you couldn't sorry, you could catch up because I'm going

2272
01:56:32,120 --> 01:56:35,040
Speaker 6: right against you on this pick right there. But Penn

2273
01:56:35,040 --> 01:56:38,320
Speaker 6: State's getting three points. As Jared just mentioned hosting Ohio State.

2274
01:56:38,560 --> 01:56:41,720
Speaker 6: I am a Nitney lion, but I honestly like Penn

2275
01:56:41,800 --> 01:56:45,600
Speaker 6: State here in this spot. I swear it's not a

2276
01:56:45,600 --> 01:56:48,240
Speaker 6: homer pick. I know it feels like you get in

2277
01:56:48,320 --> 01:56:51,160
Speaker 6: Ohio State on a discount, as you laid out, Jared,

2278
01:56:51,200 --> 01:56:54,280
Speaker 6: and I think that was actually beautifully stated how you

2279
01:56:54,320 --> 01:56:57,040
Speaker 6: can look at it that way with the Oregon game,

2280
01:56:57,120 --> 01:56:59,520
Speaker 6: with the Oregon game going the way it did.

2281
01:57:00,120 --> 01:57:03,560
Speaker 2: But I like the Lions plus three. Okay, And since I.

2282
01:57:03,600 --> 01:57:06,960
Speaker 6: Like the ninny Lions and I think this game is

2283
01:57:07,000 --> 01:57:10,000
Speaker 6: going to be close, I don't think it can be

2284
01:57:10,080 --> 01:57:15,320
Speaker 6: a shootout, So I'm taking the under the forty seven

2285
01:57:15,320 --> 01:57:19,200
Speaker 6: and a half. Also, so point total under Lions getting

2286
01:57:19,240 --> 01:57:19,720
Speaker 6: the three.

2287
01:57:20,160 --> 01:57:22,240
Speaker 2: I like those two. And then I'm.

2288
01:57:22,040 --> 01:57:25,640
Speaker 6: Looking at Florida, so again spot at fourteen and a half.

2289
01:57:26,080 --> 01:57:28,160
Speaker 2: DJ Lagway bright spot.

2290
01:57:28,320 --> 01:57:32,080
Speaker 6: Talented guy, but young going against a Kirby smart defense.

2291
01:57:32,120 --> 01:57:34,520
Speaker 6: So as much as I like him, I think that

2292
01:57:34,600 --> 01:57:35,000
Speaker 6: this is.

2293
01:57:34,960 --> 01:57:37,000
Speaker 2: Going to be overwhelming for him.

2294
01:57:37,280 --> 01:57:40,000
Speaker 6: I think that Florida the Gators are able to keep

2295
01:57:40,040 --> 01:57:43,680
Speaker 6: it close. But give me Florida plus fourteen and a

2296
01:57:43,680 --> 01:57:48,480
Speaker 6: half in a loss. They're able to win at least

2297
01:57:48,840 --> 01:57:53,040
Speaker 6: a little money if you're willing to cover up the

2298
01:57:53,080 --> 01:57:55,080
Speaker 6: fourteen and a half points there, So give me the

2299
01:57:55,120 --> 01:57:56,400
Speaker 6: Gators plus fourteen.

2300
01:57:56,120 --> 01:57:56,520
Speaker 2: And a half.

2301
01:57:56,840 --> 01:57:57,280
Speaker 4: Okay.

2302
01:57:58,120 --> 01:58:00,400
Speaker 5: So, Rich, you and I were on the same I

2303
01:58:00,400 --> 01:58:03,200
Speaker 5: got Ohio State Penn State under forty seven and a half.

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01:58:03,240 --> 01:58:04,440
Speaker 10: I like it.

2305
01:58:04,440 --> 01:58:08,000
Speaker 5: It's just I just don't see you know it's not

2306
01:58:08,040 --> 01:58:08,959
Speaker 5: gonna be a shootout.

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01:58:09,200 --> 01:58:12,840
Speaker 4: No, I'll say that much. So I'll take the under there.

2308
01:58:14,240 --> 01:58:17,320
Speaker 5: Man, I'm gonna take Washington plus two and a half.

2309
01:58:17,760 --> 01:58:19,200
Speaker 5: I think they have a great chance to win this

2310
01:58:19,240 --> 01:58:21,280
Speaker 5: game out right, it's part of the parlay pladder. I

2311
01:58:21,320 --> 01:58:24,520
Speaker 5: just think Washington's a better team than USC. So I've

2312
01:58:24,560 --> 01:58:27,760
Speaker 5: got them plus two and a half. Man, it's always

2313
01:58:27,760 --> 01:58:31,320
Speaker 5: the challenge each week. I have like six games that

2314
01:58:31,400 --> 01:58:33,640
Speaker 5: I like. It's like, gosh, I gotta whittle it down

2315
01:58:33,680 --> 01:58:37,040
Speaker 5: to one. I'm gonna take Minnesota minus two and a

2316
01:58:37,080 --> 01:58:41,440
Speaker 5: half at Illinois. This line has moved a decent amount.

2317
01:58:41,880 --> 01:58:45,960
Speaker 5: I think Minnesota just berries Illinois. Illinois's rush defense is

2318
01:58:46,000 --> 01:58:48,960
Speaker 5: not good. They can't run the ball effectively. They're leading

2319
01:58:49,040 --> 01:58:51,600
Speaker 5: rusher is out. They've got to do this through the air,

2320
01:58:52,240 --> 01:58:55,160
Speaker 5: and I just think we have more outs with Minnesota,

2321
01:58:55,200 --> 01:58:56,040
Speaker 5: even on the road.

2322
01:58:56,160 --> 01:58:58,400
Speaker 4: So I'll lay the two and a hook. I like

2323
01:58:58,400 --> 01:59:01,240
Speaker 4: that spot right there, right that time.

2324
01:59:01,440 --> 01:59:01,880
Speaker 3: That's work.

2325
01:59:01,960 --> 01:59:05,200
Speaker 4: Now, good luck if you're a Nitney Lions made.

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01:59:05,760 --> 01:59:07,480
Speaker 2: I hope I'm wrong with my Ohio State po