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Speaker 2: for another episode of Nightcap. As you watch the OKC

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Speaker 2: just got beat by the thunder as he wrote that backwards,

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Speaker 2: but anyway, one eighteen to one oh three. Shae was

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Speaker 2: sensational again tonight, thirty eight points on twelve to twenty one,

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Speaker 2: shooting one of two from the three point line. He's aggressive,

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Speaker 2: it's always thirteen to fifteen from the free throw line.

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Speaker 2: But he got great help from Jalen Williams twelve to

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty six big points, chet Holgen twenty two big points.

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Speaker 2: Jayalen Williams also chipped in. He was their leading rebounding

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Speaker 2: He had ten rebounds, count him up ten rebounders rebounds.

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Speaker 2: Minnesota at was a very inefficient He did have thirty

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Speaker 2: two points, Oh Joe and then Roy, but took him

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Speaker 2: twenty six shots to get it. One of nine from

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Speaker 2: the three point line. Remember the other night, I think

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Speaker 2: he was one for seven from the three point line,

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Speaker 2: and Julius just didn't have it tonight. This is by

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Speaker 2: far his worst game in the postseason thus far. Two

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Speaker 2: of eleven from the four or three from the three

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Speaker 2: point line, only six points, and that's when that's not

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Speaker 2: good enough to get it done.

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Speaker 4: I thought the bitch played extremely well.

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Speaker 2: Gave him thirty five big points to night O Joe,

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Speaker 2: but yeah, starters that let him down. Mike Collin three points, Roy,

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Speaker 2: Rudy Gobert. Now, all of a sudden, he don't look

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Speaker 2: like Will Chamberlain, he doesn't look like he doesn't look

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Speaker 2: like Shaquille O'Neill. When he got competent centers, little bit

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Speaker 2: out there against it and Julius again said he only

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna start with you. I watched this game, Ojo.

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Speaker 2: I watched this game extremely, extremely close because I wanted

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Speaker 2: to see something.

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Speaker 4: I'm not sure.

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Speaker 2: Minnesota can get more than a game if they can

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Speaker 2: get that, because the game will be close, Ojo, and

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Speaker 2: then they say, you know, they'll dart off and it'll

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Speaker 2: be up by fifteen. They will let back down to six,

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Speaker 2: and then they take off again and it'll be up

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Speaker 2: by fourteen. Watching this game, I'm just I'm convinced they

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Speaker 2: can't win this series, but I'm not sure they can

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Speaker 2: get more than a game if that Roy. Watching this game,

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Speaker 2: what is that's been so impressive? And they've been impressive

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Speaker 2: all year, so I guess we shouldn't really be surprised

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Speaker 2: by the thunder sixty eight wins in the regular season,

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Speaker 2: excuse me, a defense all defensive player and lou Dort.

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Speaker 2: What is it that OKC is doing to make it

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Speaker 3: Well, to me, to be honest with you, is like

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Speaker 3: as Anthony Edwards crosses the three point line, there's bodies

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Speaker 3: obviously just the guys like Caruso. I mean, you guys

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Speaker 3: played played sports, and much of the superstars played well.

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Speaker 3: They need like the inculary players, the role players to

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Speaker 3: play well. Wallace Dort, Jalen Williams, he's an All Star,

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Speaker 3: but on the defensive end, they were hunting out and

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Speaker 3: know they it only says they have nine steals here,

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Speaker 3: but I feel like they should have at least a

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Speaker 3: the top to get to Julius Randall, Dort would sniff

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Speaker 3: or Jalen Williams, he'd be up in the defense getting deflections,

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Speaker 3: getting tips. I think he has should have way more

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Speaker 3: than I think two steals that he has on the night,

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Speaker 3: but he was getting out leading the offense through their defense.

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Speaker 2: He was, And I think the thing is is that

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Speaker 2: that you're right they're loading up. They're not that Anthony

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Speaker 2: Edwards lived through those creases get to the basket, oahoe

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Speaker 2: of loading up on him. And they've got very active hands.

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Speaker 2: You see every time Rudy Gobert get off his rebound,

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Speaker 2: they slap it out, they get it going the other way.

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Speaker 2: And when you turn the ball over against a team

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Speaker 2: that's that have great wing players, that means they in

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Speaker 2: transition before you know it, because they're taking the ball

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Speaker 2: so they don't got very far to go. It's not

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Speaker 2: a one outlet laying up at the other end. Oh Joe,

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Speaker 2: you picked Minnesota. What's been the most disappointing thing? Because

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Speaker 2: they've been very disappointed. These games really haven't been close.

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Speaker 2: What's been the most disappointing thing when you're watching Minnesota

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Speaker 2: that you're like, Damn, this ain't the team that beat

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Speaker 2: the Lakers, for one, this is not the team that

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Speaker 2: What is it that's been most disappointing watching the Tea

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Speaker 2: Woods play.

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Speaker 5: Hey, honestly, just to tell you the truth. Inconsistency. Inconsistency.

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Speaker 5: One game, you know, Julius Randall, he goes off, he

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Speaker 5: goes crazy. Then we have another game where Anthony Edwards

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Speaker 5: he's been efficient, and he has he's been inefficient in

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Speaker 5: both game. He's putting up he's putting up points, but

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Speaker 5: he's taking a lot of shots to hit get the points.

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Speaker 5: He's not very he's not very efficient from the field,

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Speaker 5: and he's passing games his help. He's not getting much

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Speaker 5: help collectively from the starters as well. The benches is

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Speaker 5: doing okay, but the starters need to need to contribute

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Speaker 5: a little bit more often as opposed to counter to

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Speaker 5: offset what with home with with Check and Jayden with

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Speaker 5: Jayden Williams and and Shade are doing out there. Outside

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Speaker 5: of that, I mean, Anthony everas is being aggressive as

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Speaker 5: he can, but defensively they're smothering him.

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Speaker 6: They're they're contesting every shot.

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Speaker 5: And they making him very difficult and difficult for Anthony

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Speaker 5: Evers gets it the hole and get to and get

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Speaker 5: the points that he is getting.

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Speaker 2: After these past two.

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Speaker 5: Games, and looking at it, I'm kind of nervous for

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Speaker 5: making my pick, for picking the Wolves.

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Speaker 6: I thought they would have played much better.

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Speaker 5: Sga showing why he is the MVP, being very efficient

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Speaker 5: from the field and getting everyone else involved as well

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Speaker 5: and collectively as a team defensively, I mean, they're they're

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Speaker 5: doing what they've done all season long. They've won sixty

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Speaker 5: eight games for a reason in the season, and to

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Speaker 5: see the Wolves down to zero, I'm kind of shocked.

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Speaker 6: I shouldn't be shocked, but I kind of am thinking that.

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Speaker 5: The Wolves will play a little better, especially after winning

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Speaker 5: the previous series, for one, and I'm I'm kind of

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think the thing is for me is that

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Speaker 2: they're doing a great job of turning Minnesota over and

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Speaker 2: they're doing a good, great, great job of taking care

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Speaker 2: of the basketball. They forced fourteen turnovers, turn those into points.

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Speaker 2: They only had six turnovers. And the difference is that

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Speaker 2: this is a team and like we talk about this

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Speaker 2: all the time, you look at them, they're wing guys.

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Speaker 4: They're loaded with wing defenders. They got six.

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Speaker 2: Quality guys on a gift forget forget the starters when

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Speaker 2: they come in with their role players. They come in

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Speaker 2: with Isaiah Joe, they come in with Wiggins Road. Those

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Speaker 2: are elite. They're elite defenders on the wing. And you see,

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Speaker 2: I mean their their deflections and tips. Even if they

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Speaker 2: don't steal the ball, O Joe, now they've because they've

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Speaker 2: got a deflection, they've taken three, four, five seconds off

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Speaker 2: They make you pay for every turnover, every bad shot

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Speaker 2: it's ahead, and the next thing you know, they're laying

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Speaker 4: Go ahead, Roy.

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Speaker 3: I won't say in terms of the Timberwolves. You know,

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Speaker 3: Anthony Edwards didn't do it too much this game, but

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Speaker 3: from the last like thing, like three or four games.

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Speaker 3: I feel like at the beginning of the game, when

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Speaker 3: he gets to the basket, before he even feels the contact,

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Speaker 3: he's like screaming looking for the refs to bail him out,

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Speaker 3: and he misses those chippies around the rim. I've seen

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Speaker 3: him go body to body and it's like dunk on people.

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Speaker 3: I know that's not always like how it goes, but

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Speaker 3: he has that finesse euro step and everything like that.

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Speaker 3: And the next thing I will say is like, I'm

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Speaker 3: a little bit harder on big guys. And I think

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Speaker 3: something that you said earlier on about go Bear playing

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Speaker 3: against competent biggs. You know, when I look at Isaiah

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Speaker 3: Hartenstein and his good connection with check Man, that left

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Speaker 3: handed push floater is elite around that around the middle

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Speaker 3: then also have the high low lobs to check is great.

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Speaker 3: But those bigs you know are are doing well. I

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Speaker 3: need to see go Beart make better decisions when he's

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Speaker 3: like rolling to the basket, when he catches the ball,

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Speaker 3: when he does dribble, because you know, obviously he's not

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Speaker 3: a great offensive threat, but he needs to give you

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Speaker 3: a little bit something more than just dump off passes

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Speaker 3: or just tip backs. He needs to have good you know,

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Speaker 3: ball possession and make good decisions or good Chris passes.

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Speaker 4: Hit people on the numbers.

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Speaker 5: Hey, even though you know Roy is a liability is

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Speaker 5: the word nobody? Yeah, even though Rudy's a liability offensively,

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Speaker 5: you know, he seems so unorthodox on the offensive end.

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Speaker 5: Man and Julius has to beat has to be on point.

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Speaker 2: Man. The problem is is that when Rudy had that

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Speaker 4: What is his use?

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Speaker 4: No, he hasn't.

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Speaker 2: He's playing against the team that didn't have bigs or

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Speaker 2: He gave you five points, nine rebounds, one assist in

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Speaker 2: And see. The thing is is that he's never been

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Speaker 2: Because if you look at big that he gonna get,

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Speaker 2: can't let him get thirty five in nineteen. Every big

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Speaker 2: just eating I like that. I'm thinking Will Chamberlain. Now

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Speaker 2: look at this right here again bigger, and he's their

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Speaker 2: He's not a low post. He prefers to be like

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Speaker 2: to play. Occasionally, if you get a mismatch, you'll go.

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Speaker 2: He did a lot more driving on the basketball, a

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Speaker 2: he had a mismatch. But if they don't get anything

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Speaker 2: can't give you six. He needs to give you if

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Speaker 2: but it's hard at watching this game, really really like

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Speaker 5: Hey, royan un man that god damn sga man. I knew,

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Speaker 5: I knew he was nice. You know, I knew he

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Speaker 4: Man?

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Speaker 6: No answer for him. May he get to a spotsey

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Speaker 5: He created that space for that shoulder like Carmello A

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Speaker 2: And because he works on it, everybody else want to

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Speaker 2: mean everything O Joe said was exactly right. But to

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Speaker 3: You know, and that to me is like another thing,

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Speaker 3: like you're just wearing them down, wearing them down. I

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Speaker 3: with Gobert not being able to play to the to

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Speaker 4: That he has in the past.

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Speaker 3: Uh, defensively, I would think they would go small with

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Speaker 3: All the respect them and everything. He actually, you know,

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Speaker 3: I felt like he was selfless. He didn't like have

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Speaker 3: and you know what, the Celtics, but the other the

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Speaker 4: So I feel like the the.

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Speaker 3: The Timberwolves don't have a reliable uh four or five

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Speaker 3: give you some good minutes like my Pacers did last night.

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Speaker 4: And they play and they play TV.

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Speaker 2: it's hard because he's looks all he's doing is looking

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Speaker 2: Then where where where you go at you're gonna play.

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Speaker 2: You're gonna play Jadon McDaniels at the at the five spot.

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Speaker 2: He's the next tallest guy.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, unless you go, unless you play Jue, unless you

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Speaker 2: Hartenstein and check that's you know, baby heart, probably the Hardenstein.

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Speaker 2: But they just got to get more production. Rudy Gobert

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Speaker 2: got to give him more than five and nine. Mike

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Speaker 4: He's too good. He's been too good that he's been

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Speaker 2: But like you said, o Jo Shade, tonight, five straight

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Speaker 2: and six, thirty one, six and seven. First player in

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Speaker 2: five franchise history with five consecutive thirty point playoff games. Tonight,

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Speaker 2: he made more free throws thirteen than the Wolves starters twelves.

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Speaker 6: Hey man, that goddamn minute.

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Speaker 5: The boy tool of us when we talk about him

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Speaker 5: Then on the opposite side, I'm like, well, god damn,

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Speaker 6: He's got damn on just to get it.

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Speaker 2: God damned shut off. Well, the team with the thunder

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Speaker 4: They switch one through five. Rudy, go where where are

433
00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:28,199
Speaker 4: you gonna go?

434
00:21:29,280 --> 00:21:31,760
Speaker 2: He can't make no threes, so I'm not worried about it.

435
00:21:31,920 --> 00:21:34,400
Speaker 2: He's not an offensive web. So they say, look now,

436
00:21:34,480 --> 00:21:36,080
Speaker 2: one of two things you either gonna start have to

437
00:21:36,080 --> 00:21:37,800
Speaker 2: bless him or trap him and make him give the

438
00:21:37,840 --> 00:21:40,200
Speaker 2: ball up. Because if you let him play what they're

439
00:21:40,240 --> 00:21:41,960
Speaker 2: let him play too much one on one right now,

440
00:21:42,400 --> 00:21:44,359
Speaker 2: if you let him play one on one, he's gonna

441
00:21:44,400 --> 00:21:45,000
Speaker 2: get it at.

442
00:21:45,160 --> 00:21:47,320
Speaker 4: Thirty thirty average, thirty two points.

443
00:21:47,400 --> 00:21:51,679
Speaker 2: Hey, you shoot an efficient Now he's back into fifty percent.

444
00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:54,200
Speaker 2: You're not beating him. You let him get his numbers,

445
00:21:54,480 --> 00:21:57,360
Speaker 2: and you let him be efficient while he's getting his numbers.

446
00:21:57,359 --> 00:22:00,320
Speaker 2: Oh till you're not beating this team. J to night

447
00:22:00,359 --> 00:22:02,760
Speaker 2: twenty six, ten and five, his first every twenty five

448
00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:06,760
Speaker 2: to ten to five game, you got check, gave me

449
00:22:06,840 --> 00:22:07,560
Speaker 2: twenty two.

450
00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:10,040
Speaker 1: Rau.

451
00:22:11,320 --> 00:22:13,439
Speaker 3: It's really They were nine for thirty three from the

452
00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:15,439
Speaker 3: three point line too, So it's not like they were

453
00:22:15,520 --> 00:22:18,119
Speaker 3: knocking down threes and there was oh so much space.

454
00:22:18,160 --> 00:22:20,840
Speaker 3: You had to go tag a shooter. You have a

455
00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:23,800
Speaker 3: most dangerous shooter. That's twenty seven percent from the three

456
00:22:23,840 --> 00:22:25,720
Speaker 3: point line is not a good knight. And they were

457
00:22:25,760 --> 00:22:27,560
Speaker 3: still unable to get whatever they wanted.

458
00:22:28,040 --> 00:22:30,160
Speaker 2: I think the biggest thing is is because they're able

459
00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:32,159
Speaker 2: to play five on four because Rudy and then that

460
00:22:32,200 --> 00:22:35,440
Speaker 2: they know Rudy is not an offensive threat. So why

461
00:22:35,720 --> 00:22:37,840
Speaker 2: why my guardener? Okay, oh y'all want you to ask

462
00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:40,480
Speaker 2: me again? Why my guarding him when he's not an

463
00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:41,520
Speaker 2: offensive threat?

464
00:22:42,240 --> 00:22:42,440
Speaker 4: Right?

465
00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:47,280
Speaker 2: You Right, either he gonna catch a lob or he's

466
00:22:47,280 --> 00:22:49,320
Speaker 2: gonna try to get a put back and the thing up.

467
00:22:49,440 --> 00:22:51,760
Speaker 2: It takes him so long to unwine. So by the

468
00:22:51,760 --> 00:22:53,920
Speaker 2: time he tried to bring the ball up, they slapped down.

469
00:22:54,040 --> 00:22:56,040
Speaker 2: They got the ball like going the other way. How

470
00:22:56,080 --> 00:22:58,160
Speaker 2: many times we saw that tonight? Yeah?

471
00:22:58,440 --> 00:23:02,520
Speaker 5: Right, Hey, Anthony, everags got to be on point. He

472
00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:04,720
Speaker 5: doing what he does. Even if you're not efficient, you

473
00:23:04,800 --> 00:23:05,800
Speaker 5: got to keep putting up point.

474
00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:08,520
Speaker 2: He was aggressive, I'll give him back. He was aggressive.

475
00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:11,040
Speaker 2: You look, I think he's selling too much. He got

476
00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:14,080
Speaker 2: somebody that you know. The thing that happened was he

477
00:23:14,119 --> 00:23:16,679
Speaker 2: took more threes this year. He led the NBA and

478
00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:19,880
Speaker 2: made threes. He kind of think and sometimes I think

479
00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:21,800
Speaker 2: he falls in love with it a little too much.

480
00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:24,280
Speaker 4: Right, But.

481
00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:29,040
Speaker 2: At some point in time, we just got to come

482
00:23:29,080 --> 00:23:31,920
Speaker 2: to the realization that the thunder had been the best

483
00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:35,240
Speaker 2: team in the West and hoping and wishing and somebody

484
00:23:35,240 --> 00:23:39,040
Speaker 2: all they to do this. Shay is on damn near

485
00:23:39,119 --> 00:23:43,880
Speaker 2: every night, and I could see like he's gonna get

486
00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:46,800
Speaker 2: to the fire line. Yeah, he's getting to the fire line.

487
00:23:47,920 --> 00:23:50,160
Speaker 2: They shot twenty fourth, they shot twenty four free throws,

488
00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:55,560
Speaker 2: he had fifteen attimps. He's he's doing That's what we wanted.

489
00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:57,520
Speaker 2: That's what we want to see, O Joe, Okay, how

490
00:23:57,520 --> 00:23:59,840
Speaker 2: did you get there? At least Jay is like, you

491
00:23:59,840 --> 00:24:02,880
Speaker 2: know what this a I'm the MVP. Let me show

492
00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:05,080
Speaker 2: you why I'm the MVP. I was efficient shout on

493
00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:07,399
Speaker 2: on fifty two percent from the floor. I led the

494
00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:10,359
Speaker 2: league in scord. It seemed like every every night that

495
00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:13,560
Speaker 2: he plays, he's in the thirty. Sometimes they're not always

496
00:24:13,560 --> 00:24:17,400
Speaker 2: the most efficient, but he's putting pressure on your defense.

497
00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:19,960
Speaker 2: He can also pass them all what he had eight

498
00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:23,800
Speaker 2: assist tonight, and guys knocked down shot. Jalen william knocked

499
00:24:23,800 --> 00:24:25,800
Speaker 2: down shot, chat knocked down shots.

500
00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:27,800
Speaker 4: They shot fifty percent from the floor.

501
00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:31,040
Speaker 2: But I don't think you can beat him if you

502
00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:33,800
Speaker 2: shoot forty one percent from the floor, twenty eight percent

503
00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:36,200
Speaker 2: from the three, and you turn the ball over fourteen

504
00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:38,600
Speaker 2: times against VI team you're gonna get to what you

505
00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:43,360
Speaker 2: got A double digit loss, You get double d loss.

506
00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:44,520
Speaker 4: Ain't ain't no where riding on you.

507
00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:46,480
Speaker 2: I wish I could give you some better news for

508
00:24:46,520 --> 00:24:47,800
Speaker 2: your team, but I can't.

509
00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:51,239
Speaker 5: We get some better We get some better play from

510
00:24:51,280 --> 00:24:53,880
Speaker 5: that bench. You gotta have Conley. Conley got to show up. Man,

511
00:24:54,040 --> 00:24:56,320
Speaker 5: David Chenzo, he got to show up and do what

512
00:24:56,359 --> 00:24:58,320
Speaker 5: he do what he does. Hit some of those threes,

513
00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:01,800
Speaker 5: created some separate ration and do what it needs to do.

514
00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:05,000
Speaker 5: And just and you just continue to be aggressive. Ju

515
00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:07,600
Speaker 5: just random, continue to be aggressive and hope your supporting

516
00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:08,520
Speaker 5: cast shows up.

517
00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:11,200
Speaker 6: And it's it's an uphill It's an uphill battle from

518
00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:11,560
Speaker 6: this point.

519
00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:15,600
Speaker 5: Now. Yeah, look, you might throw everything in the kitchen

520
00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:18,080
Speaker 5: sink at him. The bitch didn't play bad. They got

521
00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:18,480
Speaker 5: three guys.

522
00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:20,439
Speaker 2: They only played three guys tonight, and they gave him

523
00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:23,360
Speaker 2: thirty five points off the bench. Uh, they only got

524
00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:26,160
Speaker 2: seventeen points off the bench, So you dumb basically doubled

525
00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:28,359
Speaker 2: them up from bench scoring. But when you have a

526
00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:30,760
Speaker 2: starter to giving you, I mean your other starters outside

527
00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:33,879
Speaker 2: of J. J. McDaniel's an ant man who gave you

528
00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:38,480
Speaker 2: fifty four, you got fourteen points from your other three starters.

529
00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:45,280
Speaker 4: Fourteen points that needs to bro in a playoff game.

530
00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:50,680
Speaker 2: Unless what unless Naves Reed go crazy and make six

531
00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:53,920
Speaker 2: to seven threes, Devinceienzo, unless you get like fifty points

532
00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:56,720
Speaker 2: from and it's hard thing about they only playoff eight guys,

533
00:25:57,640 --> 00:25:59,600
Speaker 2: So to get fifty points from three guys, that's ask

534
00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:04,480
Speaker 2: him on all for a lot, Julius. I expect to

535
00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:06,800
Speaker 2: have a bounce have a bounce back game. Like I said,

536
00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:08,399
Speaker 2: this is the worst game that we've seen from him

537
00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:11,600
Speaker 2: in the postseason this year thus far. Of the last

538
00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:14,920
Speaker 2: four players to record a twenty five point, ten rebound,

539
00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:20,159
Speaker 2: five assists, zero turnover game and a Conference finals Kobe Shaq,

540
00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:27,320
Speaker 2: Jason Tatum, Jaylen Williams. Pretty good company. Pretty good company

541
00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:33,119
Speaker 2: being points off turnovers this series. Thunder fifty three was twenty.

542
00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:39,399
Speaker 2: Ad Man stayed up till three am watching film of

543
00:26:39,440 --> 00:26:42,240
Speaker 2: game one. He'd probably be up till five watching film

544
00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:47,840
Speaker 2: of game two. He just got like you said, look

545
00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:51,960
Speaker 2: the thing yous o. Joe God once told me. He said,

546
00:26:52,119 --> 00:26:53,439
Speaker 2: he said, you know what, you and I can go

547
00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:55,720
Speaker 2: win any war if you give me the right twos

548
00:26:55,760 --> 00:26:56,640
Speaker 2: to go to battle with.

549
00:26:58,640 --> 00:26:59,680
Speaker 4: A man going to war.

550
00:26:59,720 --> 00:27:01,200
Speaker 2: I'm not. I'm so sure he got the tools of

551
00:27:01,280 --> 00:27:03,840
Speaker 2: riding right now that's ready to go to battle with him.

552
00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:06,879
Speaker 2: It's he ain't gonna out there to battle and he

553
00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:09,800
Speaker 2: alone right now. Julius is gonna have to be better.

554
00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:13,240
Speaker 2: I expect him to be better. But Mike Connon can't

555
00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:16,400
Speaker 2: give us three, He can't. Rudy, you gotta give us.

556
00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:18,160
Speaker 2: Rudy got to give us at least a double double.

557
00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:20,080
Speaker 2: Roy I don't think that's ask too much? Am I

558
00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:23,080
Speaker 2: ask you too much? Royan for a double double? I mean,

559
00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:27,080
Speaker 2: look at Mitchell Robinson. He grabs offensive rebounds and he

560
00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:27,800
Speaker 2: does he think.

561
00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:30,199
Speaker 3: I want to see the battle between free throw shooting

562
00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:33,720
Speaker 3: between Gobert and Mitchell Robinson. And the New York fans

563
00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:36,159
Speaker 3: just like love Mitchell every time he goes to the

564
00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:38,560
Speaker 3: free throw line because they see the effort. And I

565
00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:41,800
Speaker 3: know I'm drawing distension between these two teams and these

566
00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:44,919
Speaker 3: two players, But like, look at Mitchell when he actually

567
00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:48,400
Speaker 3: gets into a switch like he feels Timodal feels comfortable

568
00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:51,280
Speaker 3: with him out there guarding the perimeter players. He gets

569
00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:53,360
Speaker 3: down in his stands, he gets low, he can move

570
00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:55,879
Speaker 3: his feet. Yes, sometimes he puts two hands on the

571
00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:57,959
Speaker 3: body at the end of the play, and he might

572
00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:00,359
Speaker 3: get pick up the foul. But he's competent out there

573
00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:03,360
Speaker 3: and he's able to move. So, I mean, there's syllable

574
00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:06,280
Speaker 3: similar type of players, but there's one player, you know.

575
00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:07,840
Speaker 4: Uh, I mean, but yeah, I'm.

576
00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:08,399
Speaker 2: Just gonna leave it with that.

577
00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:09,560
Speaker 4: Yeah.

578
00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:15,520
Speaker 2: In other words, Rudy steeleing, Uh, this is the ninth

579
00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:19,720
Speaker 2: straight season O jo that the MVP doesn't have a tattoo.

580
00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:26,920
Speaker 4: Shay Yo kic Embiid, Johannis Harden and Russ.

581
00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:30,560
Speaker 2: Russ won the MVP in twenty seventeen, he got tattoos

582
00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:34,399
Speaker 2: in twenty twenty. Is there correlation anything going on? Should

583
00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:35,760
Speaker 2: we deduce anything from that? O joke?

584
00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:38,480
Speaker 6: No, had nothing to do with it. You know, some people,

585
00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:39,840
Speaker 6: some people love the artwork.

586
00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:42,640
Speaker 5: Uh, some of it as has meaning to it, not

587
00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:46,120
Speaker 5: just tattoos just to be having them really has no

588
00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:49,440
Speaker 5: correlation at all Outside of that.

589
00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:52,640
Speaker 2: I agree. I mean, some people love that. They say

590
00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:55,600
Speaker 2: tattoos are addictive. They say, once you get one, you're

591
00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:58,440
Speaker 2: gonna want two, three, four, five, six seven. Yeah, that's

592
00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:00,600
Speaker 2: what I hear everybody everybody that I don't really, I

593
00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:02,880
Speaker 2: don't know if I've seen someone, O Joe with just

594
00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:05,480
Speaker 2: one tattoo, normally you have multiples.

595
00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:08,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I mean I got I have forty four myself.

596
00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:12,560
Speaker 5: Outside of that, I mean all of them had meaning

597
00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:17,160
Speaker 5: obviously kids, family, Uh, scriptures from the Bible.

598
00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:19,960
Speaker 1: Uh.

599
00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:22,680
Speaker 4: Imagine that those things wrote in whiting so I could

600
00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:23,080
Speaker 4: read them.

601
00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:25,680
Speaker 5: You can see him, you can see him. I mean,

602
00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:29,800
Speaker 5: this is you trying to call it. I'm not that dark.

603
00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:31,880
Speaker 5: I'm not that dark. Especially right now in the light

604
00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:32,800
Speaker 5: you can probably.

605
00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:35,160
Speaker 2: I mean, it's like it's like taking a sharpie writing

606
00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:37,760
Speaker 2: on a piece of charcoal. Now you can see if

607
00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:38,560
Speaker 2: you can see them clear.

608
00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:39,520
Speaker 6: It's just it's just.

609
00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:43,120
Speaker 5: I mean, I mean, I just I don't steal. You

610
00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:47,120
Speaker 5: don't have no tattoos. I don't you scared of needles? No,

611
00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:51,040
Speaker 5: so why don't getting on mat I fifty seven?

612
00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:52,480
Speaker 2: Now, I think it's a been laid down, O Joe.

613
00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:53,960
Speaker 2: You should have got me when I was seventeen.

614
00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:55,640
Speaker 6: But they don't matter how old you are.

615
00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:57,760
Speaker 5: If you get them, hey, you know you can get

616
00:29:57,760 --> 00:29:59,840
Speaker 5: your back piece. You get you a big back piece.

617
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:01,400
Speaker 5: They can put you to me so you don't got

618
00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:01,760
Speaker 5: to feel the.

619
00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:04,440
Speaker 2: Pain when I go to sleep, I'm trying to I'm

620
00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:06,120
Speaker 2: trying to go to sleep, and when I wake up,

621
00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:08,080
Speaker 2: I want to be in the morning. I ain't going

622
00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:10,240
Speaker 2: to sleep for the damn tattoo. It waked up at

623
00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:12,040
Speaker 2: three o'clock in the afternoon. That ain't happening.

624
00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:14,120
Speaker 5: Well, they can put listen, you can time it to

625
00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:16,920
Speaker 5: where you you you get put to sleep at seven, seven,

626
00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:17,440
Speaker 5: nine o'clock.

627
00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:19,520
Speaker 2: I know you go to bed early. Old, so you

628
00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:23,280
Speaker 2: get this bad. So my first tattoo, you wanted to

629
00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:26,120
Speaker 2: be a batleast. That's about the whole thing.

630
00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:28,959
Speaker 5: Like everything, like everything you can you can put all

631
00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:31,000
Speaker 5: your dog, you can put teddy, you can put tightest

632
00:30:31,080 --> 00:30:33,480
Speaker 5: they can you know, get the family.

633
00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:39,760
Speaker 2: Ain't talk task Tarzan.

634
00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:44,960
Speaker 4: No, yeah, no, I wanted the tattoo. I wanted a tattoo.

635
00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:47,360
Speaker 2: Tattoo when I was in high school and my mom

636
00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:49,800
Speaker 2: told me no, she said, when you graduate you can

637
00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:52,520
Speaker 2: get one. I graduated. I ain't want it. I wanted

638
00:30:52,520 --> 00:30:55,640
Speaker 2: it when I was a junior. All my homeboy everybody

639
00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:57,280
Speaker 2: was getting them. I was like, yeah, I'm gonna get

640
00:30:57,280 --> 00:30:58,960
Speaker 2: me a tat No, I ain't want a tattoo. I

641
00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:01,480
Speaker 2: wanted my ears pierced. That's what I wanted on your ears, bears.

642
00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:05,320
Speaker 2: I ain't really never never wanted no, no tattoo, right right.

643
00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:07,280
Speaker 2: I only thought about it once. I thought about getting

644
00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:10,480
Speaker 2: grandmother's name across my chairs. But I know how adamant

645
00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:13,120
Speaker 2: she was. She was about doing mark Say so, boy,

646
00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:14,200
Speaker 2: don't mark up your body.

647
00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:16,280
Speaker 4: Yes, ma'am.

648
00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:17,880
Speaker 2: Were you got any tattoos?

649
00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:19,320
Speaker 4: No tattoos?

650
00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:23,440
Speaker 3: Man? I'm like my mom ran a strict household man

651
00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:26,440
Speaker 3: from the Caribbe. She's from Trindad. She would slap me

652
00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:28,960
Speaker 3: upside my head if she said I got a tattoo.

653
00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:31,600
Speaker 3: I got my ears pierced my freshman year of college.

654
00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:34,320
Speaker 3: Once I left the house and she was so mad.

655
00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:36,520
Speaker 3: But you know, I said Noah, I said.

656
00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:42,160
Speaker 2: No, no facial hair, no ear rains, no tattoos. Oh Joe,

657
00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:44,719
Speaker 2: you know I gotta keep it right. I gotta keep

658
00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:46,400
Speaker 2: this past though. You dog got to.

659
00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:46,880
Speaker 4: Keep that back.

660
00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:50,600
Speaker 2: So keep so bad. Yeah, I think you should turn

661
00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:53,720
Speaker 2: over a new leaf. You might as well. Fifty seven

662
00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:57,120
Speaker 2: try something different fifty seventh of the month.

663
00:31:57,600 --> 00:32:00,160
Speaker 6: Hey, y'all, try something Oh joy.

664
00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:02,120
Speaker 2: You know that you start to get older, your skin

665
00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:04,480
Speaker 2: gets thinner, you lose some of the last tensity it

666
00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:06,480
Speaker 2: doesn't hold as much water as it.

667
00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:08,680
Speaker 4: Once dead and it tears easy.

668
00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:10,719
Speaker 2: That's why if you notice when when older people as

669
00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:12,680
Speaker 2: they start to get older, they like they tear easy,

670
00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:13,040
Speaker 2: they bleed.

671
00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:15,120
Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying, Listening, I want you to

672
00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:17,160
Speaker 6: understand something that we talk about black folk. We talk

673
00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:20,360
Speaker 6: about all skin. Yeah black black, don't crap.

674
00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:23,280
Speaker 5: Now, I understand what you're saying about the elacticity and

675
00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:24,480
Speaker 5: in the water not holding.

676
00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:26,160
Speaker 6: But you're gonna be just fine.

677
00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:26,960
Speaker 2: You're gonna be just.

678
00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:28,959
Speaker 1: Well.

679
00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:31,320
Speaker 6: You keep saying fifty seven like you just.

680
00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:32,160
Speaker 2: Oh my goodness.

681
00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:34,160
Speaker 4: Oh I'm say I'm about to be fifty seven in

682
00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:37,640
Speaker 4: the month. You know that's not that bad.

683
00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:40,440
Speaker 2: Well, I don't think anything changing the next in the

684
00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:45,040
Speaker 2: next five weeks. Ash. Oh you on that.

685
00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:48,160
Speaker 3: Gary brack up like life performing like you know what

686
00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:49,320
Speaker 3: that that that you know?

687
00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:49,600
Speaker 2: Uh?

688
00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:52,040
Speaker 4: Spin your blood, put it back in your body. You

689
00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:53,320
Speaker 4: throw yourself frost.

690
00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:56,120
Speaker 2: Yoh no, no, no, no, no, I haven't done that.

691
00:32:56,400 --> 00:33:00,560
Speaker 2: Uh I heard about that. That's you know where there

692
00:33:00,600 --> 00:33:03,080
Speaker 2: regularly a lot of a lot of endurance athletes do that.

693
00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:04,920
Speaker 2: That's called blood doping, where they take a pine of

694
00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:07,200
Speaker 2: blood out and they spent it and they you know,

695
00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:11,240
Speaker 2: equip it, you know, put that little thing up in

696
00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:13,480
Speaker 2: put that up in there and put it back in there.

697
00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:16,200
Speaker 2: You know. Now you added more oxygen to the blood.

698
00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:19,960
Speaker 2: But no, I've never done that. Okay, Ojoe, let's revisit

699
00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:25,920
Speaker 2: the Pacers King's trade. The Pacers received Tyreese Halliburton, Buddy Hill,

700
00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:31,920
Speaker 2: Tristan Thompson. The Kings received the Montes Sabonis, Jeremy Lamb,

701
00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:36,200
Speaker 2: Justin Holliday, a twenty twenty three second round pick, and

702
00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:39,280
Speaker 2: a king size a family pack, a family sized bag

703
00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:41,120
Speaker 2: of potato chips.

704
00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:44,320
Speaker 4: Holiday.

705
00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:46,520
Speaker 2: I think if I'm not mistaken any with the Rockets. Now,

706
00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:48,880
Speaker 2: I don't know who that twenty three, twenty three second

707
00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:51,120
Speaker 2: round pick was. The bag of chips have.

708
00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:51,920
Speaker 4: Been long eating.

709
00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:57,280
Speaker 2: Jeremy Lamb is dating the owner's daughter, so the traces

710
00:33:57,320 --> 00:34:02,040
Speaker 2: wasn't that trade?

711
00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:03,280
Speaker 4: Absolutely?

712
00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:06,760
Speaker 2: Look, I mean look, Sabonis is a very good player.

713
00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:09,719
Speaker 2: You what your teammate here is Roy I was not

714
00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:12,200
Speaker 2: a teammate. I was like there there before him, two

715
00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:16,200
Speaker 2: years before. Okay, he's look, o, Joe. People don't realize

716
00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:19,240
Speaker 2: how tall he is. Sabanis is seven to one. Yeah,

717
00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:22,680
Speaker 2: people don't realize Tally is out here. People think he

718
00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:25,160
Speaker 2: likes No, he's seven foot one. His dad was seven three,

719
00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:28,720
Speaker 2: But he'll that we know he he you know, uh,

720
00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:31,960
Speaker 2: he's all of a sudden he's with the Golden State Warriors.

721
00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:36,160
Speaker 2: Now Tristan is back in Cleveland. Look Sabonis wasn't an

722
00:34:36,160 --> 00:34:39,239
Speaker 2: All Star player, but Hallie Burton and what he's been

723
00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:39,879
Speaker 2: able to do.

724
00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:44,600
Speaker 5: Yeah, mans heasy Murger to be one of the best

725
00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:45,120
Speaker 5: in the game.

726
00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:49,120
Speaker 2: Does a great job of describing the basketball oho and

727
00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:51,799
Speaker 2: he's not a high turnover guy. He's a proj I

728
00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:55,040
Speaker 2: love him when he's aggressive royal when when tied with

729
00:34:55,200 --> 00:34:59,359
Speaker 2: Reese is is aggressive because sometimes I think he said him.

730
00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:01,280
Speaker 2: Sometimes I think he just tried to get people involved.

731
00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:04,080
Speaker 2: You know, he's the old He's a prototypical old school

732
00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:07,280
Speaker 2: magic Johnson stopped and Jason Kidd top of a point guard.

733
00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:10,040
Speaker 2: He's really not looking to score, but when he's looking

734
00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:12,200
Speaker 2: to score and put pressure on the defense.

735
00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:15,960
Speaker 4: Many can I.

736
00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:18,400
Speaker 5: Can I can I say something about last night? I

737
00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:22,799
Speaker 5: just always want you to think about this. Yes, he

738
00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:27,279
Speaker 5: had an opportunity to tie the game towards the end

739
00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:31,480
Speaker 5: with the clock running down, he said, I'm finna dribble

740
00:35:31,719 --> 00:35:35,799
Speaker 5: behind the arc, like hear that at AAU basketball game

741
00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:37,560
Speaker 5: and I'm a he was shot up.

742
00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:41,080
Speaker 6: In the bounce.

743
00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:45,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, if everybody should have played a lotto last night,

744
00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:48,959
Speaker 5: if you're a patience fan, because luck was running through

745
00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:51,560
Speaker 5: everybody's veins, including brother Halliburton.

746
00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:53,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's insane.

747
00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:57,040
Speaker 2: But nor Roy, the rule of thumb, you go for

748
00:35:57,120 --> 00:35:59,399
Speaker 2: the win on the road, you go for the tie

749
00:35:59,400 --> 00:35:59,759
Speaker 2: at home.

750
00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:02,080
Speaker 4: I say that go for the wind.

751
00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:03,080
Speaker 2: You have nothing to lose.

752
00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:05,560
Speaker 3: You're gonna go back home to Indiana at some point,

753
00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:07,680
Speaker 3: and you know, play two games at home, so you

754
00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:10,200
Speaker 3: would want to like go for the win and split

755
00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:13,719
Speaker 3: the first two games. But I say the pace at

756
00:36:13,719 --> 00:36:17,360
Speaker 3: which the Pacers play allows them to have the freedom

757
00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:19,160
Speaker 3: and the effect that they, like you said, don't turn the

758
00:36:19,160 --> 00:36:21,960
Speaker 3: ball over as well, that's icing on the cake. And

759
00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:24,360
Speaker 3: then they spread the floor out so well. I feel

760
00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:28,200
Speaker 3: like the only real post presence really is Pascal siaka

761
00:36:28,239 --> 00:36:30,799
Speaker 3: Miles Turner can pick and pop. That allows him to

762
00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:33,440
Speaker 3: allows Halliburton to get to the paint. But it's like

763
00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:36,080
Speaker 3: a real good cohesive group. Yes, it was a perfect storm.

764
00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:39,200
Speaker 3: No too, Like I think Brunson getting those fouls in

765
00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:44,239
Speaker 3: the middle of the third quarter when Memhard and TJ McConnell,

766
00:36:44,239 --> 00:36:47,279
Speaker 3: like again, those role players that are attacking him at

767
00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:50,040
Speaker 3: all points, they don't allow him to take possessions off.

768
00:36:50,239 --> 00:36:51,799
Speaker 3: They try to get him in the pick and roll

769
00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:53,680
Speaker 3: to switch, or they try to push it in one

770
00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:55,759
Speaker 3: on one in transition and get right to the hole

771
00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:57,719
Speaker 3: and see if he's gonna either try to contest and

772
00:36:57,760 --> 00:37:00,719
Speaker 3: potential foul or give up the layup a perfect store

773
00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:01,600
Speaker 3: for the pacers.

774
00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:03,040
Speaker 2: Lest Yeah, And the thing is they play with such

775
00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:07,440
Speaker 2: pace as you mentioned. And so now knowing that that

776
00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:11,200
Speaker 2: Tims only want to play like seven eight guys, seven guys. Yeah,

777
00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:13,440
Speaker 2: and you know he wants to play on forty four minutes,

778
00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:16,239
Speaker 2: playing forty four minutes at the pace in which the

779
00:37:16,239 --> 00:37:19,480
Speaker 2: Pacers play, you're asking an awful lot. Yeah, and you

780
00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:21,960
Speaker 2: got You're right, Roy. When they keep attacking, they're like, look,

781
00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:23,120
Speaker 2: we're not gonna let him rest.

782
00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:23,840
Speaker 4: TJ.

783
00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:26,520
Speaker 2: Don't you let him rest, Hallie, we know you're not

784
00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:28,680
Speaker 2: gonna let him rest. Nim Hard, don't let him rest,

785
00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:30,719
Speaker 2: Nissa Smith, don't let him rest, Math, But don't let

786
00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:31,160
Speaker 2: him rest.

787
00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:33,160
Speaker 4: If he's on you attack him.

788
00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:36,360
Speaker 2: We know what he is offensively, so we want to

789
00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:38,640
Speaker 2: attack him when he's on the defensive end, to try

790
00:37:38,640 --> 00:37:40,360
Speaker 2: to take some of that bite out of those legs.

791
00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:43,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, he also had those seven turnovers too, you know,

792
00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:46,320
Speaker 3: so it's wearing on him and I feel like, you know, Tim's,

793
00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:48,560
Speaker 3: like you said, is known for playing a very short lineup.

794
00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:51,080
Speaker 3: If this thing is to a game seven, I don't

795
00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:54,040
Speaker 3: know if those Villanova all four of those Villanova knicks

796
00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:56,800
Speaker 3: are going to be able to be available to play

797
00:37:57,160 --> 00:37:59,680
Speaker 3: something if there is a game seven. So where would

798
00:37:59,680 --> 00:38:02,359
Speaker 3: you rank? It's not what injuries on anybody. I hope

799
00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:05,080
Speaker 3: everybody stays healthy, yes, but it's just history that's shown

800
00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:08,480
Speaker 3: that Tims team's kind of like, you know, the players

801
00:38:08,560 --> 00:38:10,719
Speaker 3: kind of like, you know, fall off a little bit

802
00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:12,720
Speaker 3: because I feel like there was worn out.

803
00:38:14,719 --> 00:38:20,200
Speaker 2: Look Demonte Sabonis because basically it's the bonus and haller Burton,

804
00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:22,759
Speaker 2: Uh ty Reese has been an All Star for a

805
00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:24,600
Speaker 2: couple of years. Sabonis has been an All Star for

806
00:38:24,600 --> 00:38:28,080
Speaker 2: a couple of years. Uh, Halliburton won a gold medal.

807
00:38:31,960 --> 00:38:35,040
Speaker 2: I think Sabonis was on the Lithuanian team. They didn't

808
00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:39,200
Speaker 2: win any medals. But this trade is not worse than

809
00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:42,160
Speaker 2: than the Clippers getting Paul George and giving up Shaye

810
00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:44,960
Speaker 2: Gallinari in five first round picks and two pick swaps.

811
00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:47,000
Speaker 4: That's the worse trade than this one.

812
00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:51,400
Speaker 2: Uh. Everybody thinking it's probably thinking the Luca trade because

813
00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:53,520
Speaker 2: it's so fresh in your mind and it just happened.

814
00:38:54,640 --> 00:39:00,479
Speaker 2: But uh, I mean, I look, the Kings can't feel

815
00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:05,040
Speaker 2: bad because the Kings did have Darren Fox. Darren Fox

816
00:39:05,600 --> 00:39:08,920
Speaker 2: was an All Star, so they've had an medical replacement.

817
00:39:08,920 --> 00:39:11,680
Speaker 2: It's just that Halley's had his team twice in the

818
00:39:11,719 --> 00:39:15,960
Speaker 2: Eastern Conference Finals back to back years. So I like

819
00:39:16,120 --> 00:39:20,960
Speaker 2: I like reason. Charles Barkley wants John Halliburton to be unbanned.

820
00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:24,040
Speaker 2: He paid his dues. It shouldn't be indefinite. He's been

821
00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:27,479
Speaker 2: punished enough. He would never do anything that's stupid. Again, Roy,

822
00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:32,160
Speaker 2: should John Halliburton be permanently banned?

823
00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:33,200
Speaker 4: No?

824
00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:35,120
Speaker 3: No, I think it's just like you know, I think

825
00:39:35,120 --> 00:39:36,960
Speaker 3: it should have been like a one game and then

826
00:39:37,080 --> 00:39:39,480
Speaker 3: just move on to the next news cycle. I don't

827
00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:41,719
Speaker 3: think people need to, like, you know, make this a

828
00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:43,280
Speaker 3: big thing. I hope he's not banned.

829
00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:44,440
Speaker 4: I don't know.

830
00:39:44,719 --> 00:39:47,160
Speaker 3: The Pacers are flying me out. I'm getting flown out

831
00:39:47,160 --> 00:39:47,960
Speaker 3: by the Pacers.

832
00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:48,879
Speaker 4: For Game three.

833
00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:51,160
Speaker 3: I'm gonna be there with my son, so hopefully I

834
00:39:51,160 --> 00:39:53,000
Speaker 3: get to shake his hand. We'll take a picture and

835
00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:54,960
Speaker 3: everything like that. I'll report back to you, all right.

836
00:39:55,120 --> 00:39:55,799
Speaker 3: I appreciate that.

837
00:39:56,239 --> 00:39:59,440
Speaker 2: I agree, I agree, Oh Jo, I'm anxious to hear

838
00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:00,839
Speaker 2: what you say on at But.

839
00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:01,960
Speaker 4: I think, look, he made a mistake.

840
00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:03,799
Speaker 2: He got caught up in the motion, and sometimes when

841
00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:06,160
Speaker 2: the motion is how logic is low. And you know

842
00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:08,640
Speaker 2: he ran on the court. Obviously that's a no. No

843
00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:11,799
Speaker 2: he ran on the court. Then, you know, I think

844
00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:14,759
Speaker 2: what the NBA was concerned about, it wasn't so much

845
00:40:14,840 --> 00:40:16,880
Speaker 2: him on the court. Is what he did when he

846
00:40:16,920 --> 00:40:19,520
Speaker 2: got on the court. He went up into a player's face.

847
00:40:19,840 --> 00:40:22,080
Speaker 2: Now you know how players are roy When we lose,

848
00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:25,880
Speaker 2: we're not either losses And that's kind of how we

849
00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:29,840
Speaker 2: became what we became, because losing was not okay with us.

850
00:40:30,200 --> 00:40:32,960
Speaker 2: That's what kind of shape molded us to become the

851
00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:37,719
Speaker 2: players we became. A lot of times, you run up

852
00:40:37,719 --> 00:40:40,680
Speaker 2: on the right the wrong player. No, let me take

853
00:40:40,719 --> 00:40:43,239
Speaker 2: that back. You run up on the right player at

854
00:40:43,239 --> 00:40:49,040
Speaker 2: the wrong time, and my mind will help you. Jannis

855
00:40:49,160 --> 00:40:52,480
Speaker 2: showed a lot of restraint because a lot sometimes don't

856
00:40:52,520 --> 00:40:55,080
Speaker 2: your people defend. Man, this is my opportunity. Get me

857
00:40:55,160 --> 00:40:57,680
Speaker 2: a hey, let me hear that one. Le Gary Blunt.

858
00:40:57,719 --> 00:41:00,360
Speaker 2: Remember lou Gary Blunt, Boys and State. They lost, the

859
00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:05,680
Speaker 2: Organ got red on the field. No Organ lost to Boys,

860
00:41:05,800 --> 00:41:08,600
Speaker 2: Estate and the guy random the field relevant and the

861
00:41:08,680 --> 00:41:14,280
Speaker 2: Garrett Bluff face Cock. So you just have to be careful.

862
00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:18,600
Speaker 2: I understand the NBA is airing on the side of caution,

863
00:41:19,480 --> 00:41:21,759
Speaker 2: but yeah, let him come on back. I think he

864
00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:23,680
Speaker 2: paid his due. I think he learned his lesson. I

865
00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:25,439
Speaker 2: think and Haley said it best.

866
00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:25,839
Speaker 4: Had to say.

867
00:41:25,840 --> 00:41:27,239
Speaker 2: You know what, man, I talked to my pops. He

868
00:41:28,120 --> 00:41:30,840
Speaker 2: knows he can't do that, but it should not be

869
00:41:32,080 --> 00:41:33,000
Speaker 2: for perpetuity.

870
00:41:34,239 --> 00:41:35,280
Speaker 4: He missed.

871
00:41:35,320 --> 00:41:37,720
Speaker 2: He missed the two games, he missed the two home

872
00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:39,960
Speaker 2: games that he had. Let him come on back for

873
00:41:40,040 --> 00:41:43,719
Speaker 2: game three and hey, if that made the finals. I'm

874
00:41:43,719 --> 00:41:47,640
Speaker 2: coming in there with the disguise. You know, a couple

875
00:41:47,680 --> 00:41:49,280
Speaker 2: to be able to beard. I might have you a beard.

876
00:41:49,880 --> 00:41:51,319
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I'm coming there with the new guys. I'm

877
00:41:51,320 --> 00:41:54,080
Speaker 2: gonna see myself up play in the NBA finals.

878
00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:54,719
Speaker 4: Yeah.

879
00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:57,279
Speaker 5: Absolutely, you have no choice. You got no choice. I

880
00:41:57,280 --> 00:41:59,600
Speaker 5: think the band is a little it's a little too excessive.

881
00:42:00,760 --> 00:42:03,160
Speaker 5: You know, Pop's gotta understand. You can celebration, you to

882
00:42:03,239 --> 00:42:06,640
Speaker 5: have fun. You definitely can't go on the court. You

883
00:42:06,680 --> 00:42:08,000
Speaker 5: can't go on the court, and you can't go in

884
00:42:08,040 --> 00:42:10,680
Speaker 5: the players face. I thought maybe there was a relationship

885
00:42:11,120 --> 00:42:12,839
Speaker 5: or they might have known each other, which is why

886
00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:14,040
Speaker 5: he was able to do it, because most of the

887
00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:17,720
Speaker 5: time parents don't feel comfortable, especially after win celebrating another

888
00:42:17,719 --> 00:42:18,359
Speaker 5: player's face.

889
00:42:18,719 --> 00:42:20,840
Speaker 6: So I thought there was some type of relationship.

890
00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:25,320
Speaker 5: Between Gobert and and and not Gobeer, between Joannis, pops and.

891
00:42:25,120 --> 00:42:27,560
Speaker 4: And Pops and Yannis.

892
00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:30,640
Speaker 5: Honest, so I'm obviously it must not have been so

893
00:42:31,040 --> 00:42:34,120
Speaker 5: most of the time it was comfortable, comfortable going to

894
00:42:34,360 --> 00:42:35,480
Speaker 5: players faces like that.

895
00:42:35,520 --> 00:42:38,520
Speaker 6: But hey, we get they got to lift that band.

896
00:42:38,680 --> 00:42:39,680
Speaker 6: They can't do it like that.

897
00:42:40,080 --> 00:42:42,680
Speaker 4: And he had a towel with his son face on it.

898
00:42:43,480 --> 00:42:49,400
Speaker 2: You like this like this, like uh yeah, but I agree.

899
00:42:49,480 --> 00:42:51,640
Speaker 2: I think we're I think we're in a unison here

900
00:42:52,640 --> 00:42:52,960
Speaker 2: is that.

901
00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:53,239
Speaker 4: Look.

902
00:42:53,280 --> 00:42:55,440
Speaker 2: I think he's paid his dues, he's missed two games.

903
00:42:56,160 --> 00:42:58,520
Speaker 2: I think now let him come on back. Give him

904
00:42:58,560 --> 00:43:04,040
Speaker 2: a stirring warning, mister Halliburt. That can't happen again. You know,

905
00:43:04,160 --> 00:43:05,680
Speaker 2: I look, everybody.

906
00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:05,840
Speaker 4: Knows who he is.

907
00:43:05,880 --> 00:43:08,239
Speaker 2: Oh, Joe, your son just wanted to start players, and

908
00:43:08,239 --> 00:43:09,879
Speaker 2: so they're gonna give you a little bit, a little

909
00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:12,439
Speaker 2: bit more leniency. As far as going on the court,

910
00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:14,400
Speaker 2: they're not going, Hey, get up that court. They're like,

911
00:43:14,560 --> 00:43:17,239
Speaker 2: you know, they probably miss Talliburton. He should step back

912
00:43:17,239 --> 00:43:18,839
Speaker 2: a little bit. So they gonna give you a little

913
00:43:18,840 --> 00:43:20,880
Speaker 2: bit more grace. We know, we know how that worked.

914
00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:24,799
Speaker 2: But uh, I think he's learned his lesson and I

915
00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:27,240
Speaker 2: don't think we'll have that problem again. So I definitely

916
00:43:27,280 --> 00:43:30,720
Speaker 2: think the issue should be on. The band should be lifted,

917
00:43:30,960 --> 00:43:32,799
Speaker 2: and he should be allowed to see his son play

918
00:43:33,239 --> 00:43:39,319
Speaker 2: in the Eastern Conference Finals. Jared McClain was reacting to

919
00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:42,239
Speaker 2: the play where bruntson file baited TJ McConnell last night,

920
00:43:42,280 --> 00:43:45,520
Speaker 2: and McCain said, file bating is just smart. Even when

921
00:43:45,520 --> 00:43:47,600
Speaker 2: I talked to Joel Andbiet about it, he thinks he's

922
00:43:47,680 --> 00:43:48,920
Speaker 2: just playing the game smart.

923
00:43:49,280 --> 00:43:50,520
Speaker 4: Roy, do you agree?

924
00:43:52,360 --> 00:43:53,279
Speaker 2: So I feel like.

925
00:43:54,040 --> 00:43:57,920
Speaker 3: This is always comes up, like even before harder than

926
00:43:57,960 --> 00:44:00,759
Speaker 3: there was a guy Kevin Martin that played for the

927
00:44:00,840 --> 00:44:04,120
Speaker 3: Houston Rockets and he also played for Go to Sacramento Kids.

928
00:44:04,160 --> 00:44:06,960
Speaker 3: Yees fact, But he was the fraid. He was a thin,

929
00:44:07,080 --> 00:44:09,319
Speaker 3: frail guy. Kind of looked like Aliburton a little bit

930
00:44:09,320 --> 00:44:15,880
Speaker 3: in terms of like the body type. A little push shot. Yeah,

931
00:44:15,880 --> 00:44:17,839
Speaker 3: but this is gonna be in the game no matter what.

932
00:44:18,320 --> 00:44:20,000
Speaker 3: I don't want to be too long winded here, but

933
00:44:20,280 --> 00:44:23,759
Speaker 3: you know, when I was playing Lebron against the Heat

934
00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:26,279
Speaker 3: the Pacers Heat Series, Lebron used to do this thing

935
00:44:26,280 --> 00:44:29,760
Speaker 3: where like he's always even before Lebron the Pacer Heat Series,

936
00:44:29,960 --> 00:44:32,239
Speaker 3: he would cuff the ball get to the basket. I

937
00:44:32,239 --> 00:44:34,200
Speaker 3: would try to block the shot, you know, and I

938
00:44:34,200 --> 00:44:36,120
Speaker 3: get called for the foul because you know, when you

939
00:44:36,160 --> 00:44:37,879
Speaker 3: cuff it, that's one thing when you try to lay

940
00:44:37,880 --> 00:44:39,560
Speaker 3: it up, you can go try to block it. So

941
00:44:39,640 --> 00:44:43,640
Speaker 3: I had to learn verticality jump straight up. Yes, the

942
00:44:43,680 --> 00:44:47,200
Speaker 3: concert adapt to the game. I had to adapt to

943
00:44:47,239 --> 00:44:49,360
Speaker 3: the game. I'm not going to complain about it. Unless

944
00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:52,080
Speaker 3: the referees in the summer said, you know what, you know,

945
00:44:52,440 --> 00:44:54,759
Speaker 3: we need to address this, then I could be like,

946
00:44:55,040 --> 00:44:56,880
Speaker 3: you know what, maybe I could relax, maybe I can

947
00:44:56,920 --> 00:44:59,279
Speaker 3: complain more. But for me, if the rules are there

948
00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:02,279
Speaker 3: and and the offensive players doing it, all, this is

949
00:45:02,320 --> 00:45:05,400
Speaker 3: on me to figure out how to work either in

950
00:45:05,520 --> 00:45:07,840
Speaker 3: real time to figure it out, or during the summer

951
00:45:07,880 --> 00:45:09,840
Speaker 3: when you're in the lab, you know, because I always

952
00:45:09,880 --> 00:45:12,279
Speaker 3: used to work on you know, three things offense, at

953
00:45:12,360 --> 00:45:15,319
Speaker 3: least two things on defense in my workout, and then

954
00:45:15,440 --> 00:45:18,520
Speaker 3: keep rotating those things. So that's just how my mindset is.

955
00:45:19,360 --> 00:45:22,239
Speaker 6: What do you think, Joe, Yeah, honestly, I like it.

956
00:45:22,400 --> 00:45:22,520
Speaker 2: Uh.

957
00:45:22,840 --> 00:45:24,680
Speaker 5: Most of the people call it flopping. I call it

958
00:45:24,719 --> 00:45:27,719
Speaker 5: manipulate the game. As a dB, you you think about it,

959
00:45:27,760 --> 00:45:29,760
Speaker 5: I'm not. I'm not saying I'm a dB, but there

960
00:45:29,800 --> 00:45:32,920
Speaker 5: are many tricks to the trade, you know, trying trying

961
00:45:32,920 --> 00:45:36,000
Speaker 5: to help yourself, give me yourself and an advantage when

962
00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:40,359
Speaker 5: you playing the game. Listen, putting your shoulder down, being

963
00:45:40,360 --> 00:45:43,040
Speaker 5: a little theatrical with your head movements like Jennen Bruston

964
00:45:43,239 --> 00:45:46,160
Speaker 5: is at times, and and drawing those files. It's a

965
00:45:46,200 --> 00:45:48,279
Speaker 5: part of the game. It's manipulating the game to get

966
00:45:48,280 --> 00:45:51,120
Speaker 5: yourself to the line and give you advantages that the

967
00:45:51,200 --> 00:45:54,240
Speaker 5: ref sometimes can't see in real time.

968
00:45:54,600 --> 00:45:57,480
Speaker 6: I mean, why not until they find a way to

969
00:45:57,560 --> 00:45:58,000
Speaker 6: stop it.

970
00:45:58,360 --> 00:46:00,279
Speaker 5: What you can't you know in real time because the

971
00:46:00,320 --> 00:46:03,239
Speaker 5: naked eye really can't see that you take advantage of it.

972
00:46:03,280 --> 00:46:03,640
Speaker 4: Whatnot?

973
00:46:04,120 --> 00:46:07,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, Harden was really great at it. A left handed player.

974
00:46:07,239 --> 00:46:10,399
Speaker 2: Jalen brunsts and has adopted it. And Shae is another one. Now,

975
00:46:10,440 --> 00:46:12,719
Speaker 2: Shade does a great job of getting that separation. And

976
00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:15,920
Speaker 2: what they're trying to do is create separation. I want

977
00:46:15,920 --> 00:46:17,520
Speaker 2: to get my shot. I want to get this shot off,

978
00:46:17,520 --> 00:46:19,799
Speaker 2: and and and and Shade does it to get to

979
00:46:19,880 --> 00:46:22,759
Speaker 2: that mini as good as anybody. Harden was doing it

980
00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:24,440
Speaker 2: to get always Hardeners trying to get all the way

981
00:46:24,440 --> 00:46:26,919
Speaker 2: to the paint. You're gonna even get to that floor.

982
00:46:26,960 --> 00:46:28,600
Speaker 2: You're gonna get to that dominant hand and lay the

983
00:46:28,640 --> 00:46:31,040
Speaker 2: ball up. So, uh yeah, I don't have a problem

984
00:46:31,040 --> 00:46:36,319
Speaker 2: with it. These guys have perfected it. They understand how

985
00:46:36,320 --> 00:46:37,600
Speaker 2: to get to the how to how to get to

986
00:46:37,600 --> 00:46:40,120
Speaker 2: the free throw line, how to manipulate you said, oho

987
00:46:40,280 --> 00:46:42,799
Speaker 2: the defense and and make you draw fiut and and

988
00:46:42,840 --> 00:46:44,479
Speaker 2: they a lot of them, a lot of them guys

989
00:46:44,480 --> 00:46:47,600
Speaker 2: got that herky jerky motion. You think they go going

990
00:46:47,680 --> 00:46:49,279
Speaker 2: for a shot, and actually they give you the head

991
00:46:49,280 --> 00:46:51,200
Speaker 2: faking you don't jump into them. And now they jump

992
00:46:51,520 --> 00:46:53,000
Speaker 2: and throw the ball up. And now he's going to

993
00:46:53,040 --> 00:46:55,560
Speaker 2: get two or three free throw attempt. So that's part

994
00:46:55,560 --> 00:46:57,080
Speaker 2: of the game. And guys are gonna have to learn

995
00:46:57,080 --> 00:47:08,319
Speaker 2: how to to uh defend without filing. The NBA Now

996
00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:13,120
Speaker 2: they're all defensive teams. Dyson Daniels are the Hawks, Lou

997
00:47:13,239 --> 00:47:18,120
Speaker 2: Dort Thunder, Draymond Warriors, Evan Mobley who is Defensive Player

998
00:47:18,120 --> 00:47:22,240
Speaker 2: of the Year CALVS, and Armin Thompson of the Houston Rockets.

999
00:47:23,200 --> 00:47:25,879
Speaker 2: Any any problem with that? That uh that first team

1000
00:47:25,880 --> 00:47:27,840
Speaker 2: All Defense or Roy No?

1001
00:47:27,960 --> 00:47:28,360
Speaker 4: I love it.

1002
00:47:28,360 --> 00:47:30,759
Speaker 3: I think Evan Mobile, you know, exemplified, you know, being

1003
00:47:30,800 --> 00:47:33,680
Speaker 3: able to be the new type of big guy who

1004
00:47:33,719 --> 00:47:36,160
Speaker 3: can you know, not only score, but can actually like

1005
00:47:36,320 --> 00:47:40,120
Speaker 3: move his feet defend and then guard multiple positions. You know,

1006
00:47:40,200 --> 00:47:43,480
Speaker 3: I cover college basketball for CBS, and like one of

1007
00:47:43,520 --> 00:47:45,680
Speaker 3: the things I always talk about is, you know, bigs

1008
00:47:45,719 --> 00:47:49,160
Speaker 3: have to be able to be mobile, can defend multiple positions.

1009
00:47:49,200 --> 00:47:51,640
Speaker 3: And he's the prototype of it right there, right then,

1010
00:47:51,640 --> 00:47:54,040
Speaker 3: And they're not that many seven footers that are moving

1011
00:47:54,080 --> 00:47:56,640
Speaker 3: around could do it now because of how the speed

1012
00:47:56,640 --> 00:47:58,640
Speaker 3: of the game. So I feel like I have no

1013
00:47:58,680 --> 00:48:01,040
Speaker 3: problem with that. And more and more guards and win

1014
00:48:01,200 --> 00:48:03,880
Speaker 3: players on the defensive team. To me, it's the trend

1015
00:48:03,920 --> 00:48:07,040
Speaker 3: of how the NBA is going has been going.

1016
00:48:07,320 --> 00:48:09,840
Speaker 2: But you know what, there are some guys that normally

1017
00:48:09,880 --> 00:48:13,520
Speaker 2: makes defense the All Defensive team that wasn't og Ananobi

1018
00:48:13,960 --> 00:48:18,759
Speaker 2: was not there, Jannis wasn't there. Bam wasn't there, Dereck

1019
00:48:18,880 --> 00:48:23,840
Speaker 2: White wasn't there, Holiday wasn't there. Do you think anybody

1020
00:48:23,920 --> 00:48:26,880
Speaker 2: was snubbed that should have been on. I'm surprised Jiannis

1021
00:48:27,360 --> 00:48:32,520
Speaker 2: wasn't on because Gianni's is normally been on. Yeah, Bam,

1022
00:48:32,680 --> 00:48:34,720
Speaker 2: if thought if it's one of the better defending centers.

1023
00:48:34,760 --> 00:48:37,880
Speaker 2: You know he switched inn yard one through five. Derrick White,

1024
00:48:37,880 --> 00:48:39,799
Speaker 2: we know we think of him defensively. That's one of

1025
00:48:39,800 --> 00:48:42,040
Speaker 2: the reasons that he was on the Olympic, the US

1026
00:48:42,080 --> 00:48:47,960
Speaker 2: Select team, the Olympic team. So o g he's one

1027
00:48:47,960 --> 00:48:50,160
Speaker 2: of one of the defenders. But I agree with you, Roy,

1028
00:48:50,200 --> 00:48:53,440
Speaker 2: I don't really have a problem. I'm surprised that none

1029
00:48:53,480 --> 00:48:56,320
Speaker 2: of these guys because Zubas or the Clippers made second

1030
00:48:56,360 --> 00:49:01,840
Speaker 2: team Jaron Jackson, Junior, Jaylen Williams, uh Camara.

1031
00:49:01,560 --> 00:49:03,120
Speaker 4: Of Portland and Rudy Gobert.

1032
00:49:03,360 --> 00:49:08,520
Speaker 2: They could Bam or og Oriannis could easily taken Gobert's

1033
00:49:08,520 --> 00:49:14,560
Speaker 2: place have it this year and it's okay. You don't

1034
00:49:14,640 --> 00:49:17,120
Speaker 2: keep having to put players on there. Oh, yeah, well

1035
00:49:17,160 --> 00:49:19,279
Speaker 2: he's been. He's four time Defensive Player of the Year.

1036
00:49:19,440 --> 00:49:22,319
Speaker 2: If the guy doesn't have a season that warn't him

1037
00:49:22,360 --> 00:49:25,239
Speaker 2: being on there, don't put him on there. It's okay.

1038
00:49:25,960 --> 00:49:27,880
Speaker 2: It's okay if you don't put Rudy Gobert on the

1039
00:49:27,920 --> 00:49:29,880
Speaker 2: All Defensive team because I don't think he had an

1040
00:49:29,880 --> 00:49:30,840
Speaker 2: All defensive.

1041
00:49:30,440 --> 00:49:35,760
Speaker 4: Team type of a season this year. Right Maybe Drew Holliday.

1042
00:49:35,800 --> 00:49:39,160
Speaker 3: I feel like he's just the Olways common presence on defense.

1043
00:49:39,400 --> 00:49:42,960
Speaker 3: He's up and up on the guards, using his hands,

1044
00:49:42,960 --> 00:49:46,080
Speaker 3: he gets under screens. You know, maybe maybe that could

1045
00:49:46,680 --> 00:49:48,960
Speaker 3: be a player. But you know, then again, you never

1046
00:49:49,000 --> 00:49:51,040
Speaker 3: know where their ranking was on the defensive end.

1047
00:49:53,239 --> 00:49:55,799
Speaker 2: The NBA world is a waiting Lebron's decision on his

1048
00:49:55,840 --> 00:49:58,480
Speaker 2: player option with the Lakers for next season. Rich Paul

1049
00:49:58,560 --> 00:50:01,239
Speaker 2: said on The Rich Eisend Show today, I think everybody's

1050
00:50:01,280 --> 00:50:03,399
Speaker 2: been on pins and needles for a while. I wish

1051
00:50:03,440 --> 00:50:06,160
Speaker 2: I had an answer. I don't know. It's early. I

1052
00:50:06,160 --> 00:50:08,480
Speaker 2: don't have a conversation like that. I go into each

1053
00:50:08,560 --> 00:50:11,239
Speaker 2: year like he's continued to play. I've never even talked

1054
00:50:11,280 --> 00:50:14,680
Speaker 2: about that physically, he can play several more years. I

1055
00:50:14,719 --> 00:50:17,000
Speaker 2: don't think it's the physical aspect of it. I think

1056
00:50:17,040 --> 00:50:21,560
Speaker 2: it's where you are mentally with these guys. I think

1057
00:50:22,040 --> 00:50:24,359
Speaker 2: we put so much on the individual. There's a lot

1058
00:50:24,360 --> 00:50:27,200
Speaker 2: of players, there's a lot of layers to success as

1059
00:50:27,239 --> 00:50:29,960
Speaker 2: an individual, and I think when you think about him

1060
00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:32,520
Speaker 2: per se, there's a lot of decision that has to

1061
00:50:32,520 --> 00:50:34,799
Speaker 2: be made, you know, going into the locker room, what's

1062
00:50:34,800 --> 00:50:37,040
Speaker 2: the roster look like, what's the approach to each player?

1063
00:50:37,120 --> 00:50:40,520
Speaker 2: Is He's always going to get everybody's best shot, and

1064
00:50:39,840 --> 00:50:44,320
Speaker 2: so this is a team he's on with the history

1065
00:50:44,360 --> 00:50:44,600
Speaker 2: of the.

1066
00:50:44,560 --> 00:50:47,960
Speaker 4: Team, Roy, if I had to ask you.

1067
00:50:48,200 --> 00:50:50,600
Speaker 2: What do you think Lebron's gonna do? Is he gonna

1068
00:50:50,640 --> 00:50:55,400
Speaker 2: opt out opt in? What are some of the factors

1069
00:50:55,560 --> 00:50:57,919
Speaker 2: that will go into the decision that Lebron is gonna

1070
00:50:57,920 --> 00:51:00,000
Speaker 2: make to either opt in or opt out of that contract?

1071
00:51:01,000 --> 00:51:03,000
Speaker 3: I mean, I feel like he's gonna be in a

1072
00:51:03,080 --> 00:51:06,080
Speaker 3: Lakers jersey next year. He'll probably opt out and then

1073
00:51:06,120 --> 00:51:08,319
Speaker 3: probably made me sign like a two year deal, very

1074
00:51:08,360 --> 00:51:12,080
Speaker 3: hefty two year deal, probably finish out his career for

1075
00:51:12,120 --> 00:51:15,120
Speaker 3: the Lakers. You know, you know, it's hard for me

1076
00:51:15,160 --> 00:51:17,760
Speaker 3: with with with with Lebron because I want to believe

1077
00:51:17,800 --> 00:51:19,640
Speaker 3: him when he says that he's not a part of

1078
00:51:19,680 --> 00:51:22,880
Speaker 3: the front office, you know, conversations, even though you know

1079
00:51:23,040 --> 00:51:26,640
Speaker 3: he would think the best player in the NBA right

1080
00:51:26,680 --> 00:51:29,400
Speaker 3: now would have his hands in the cookie jar and

1081
00:51:29,520 --> 00:51:33,120
Speaker 3: and everything. But they gotta you know, he's gonna be back.

1082
00:51:33,320 --> 00:51:35,640
Speaker 3: But they definitely need to upgrade, like the big position.

1083
00:51:37,840 --> 00:51:40,719
Speaker 3: But they definitely need to center bad and and and

1084
00:51:40,760 --> 00:51:45,120
Speaker 3: then obviously you know, you know Don Luca and then

1085
00:51:45,200 --> 00:51:45,960
Speaker 3: you know how.

1086
00:51:47,080 --> 00:51:48,240
Speaker 4: He got thrown under the bus.

1087
00:51:48,280 --> 00:51:50,279
Speaker 3: I feel like a little bit after in terms of

1088
00:51:50,880 --> 00:51:54,000
Speaker 3: calling out his condition is I feel like that needs

1089
00:51:54,080 --> 00:51:56,440
Speaker 3: to be like, I mean, that's not what you're asking me.

1090
00:51:57,080 --> 00:51:59,000
Speaker 3: Lebron's gonna be back, but I hope that they can,

1091
00:51:59,239 --> 00:52:00,960
Speaker 3: you know, he could rub off on Luca a little

1092
00:52:00,960 --> 00:52:03,160
Speaker 3: bit to like, you know, tighten up at the beginning

1093
00:52:03,200 --> 00:52:03,760
Speaker 3: of the season.

1094
00:52:04,400 --> 00:52:07,759
Speaker 2: Well, they did hire a strength and conditioning coach, and

1095
00:52:08,000 --> 00:52:09,960
Speaker 2: as we talked about a couple of nights ago, Roy,

1096
00:52:10,120 --> 00:52:11,799
Speaker 2: I don't know if you heard us, is that a

1097
00:52:11,800 --> 00:52:13,840
Speaker 2: lot of these elite guys, they have their own guys

1098
00:52:14,560 --> 00:52:17,080
Speaker 2: they work with that as far as weight lifting, as

1099
00:52:17,120 --> 00:52:19,880
Speaker 2: far as physio and all that other stuff. I know, Lebron,

1100
00:52:19,960 --> 00:52:22,319
Speaker 2: Mike mussie Us is with Lebron all the time, and

1101
00:52:22,360 --> 00:52:24,320
Speaker 2: so a lot of these guys used to be Tim Brower.

1102
00:52:24,640 --> 00:52:26,600
Speaker 2: But a lot of these guys have their own personal

1103
00:52:26,600 --> 00:52:28,400
Speaker 2: guys that they trained with and do things with.

1104
00:52:28,719 --> 00:52:29,680
Speaker 4: But it's nice to see.

1105
00:52:29,800 --> 00:52:32,719
Speaker 2: But I'm gonna and Luca's taking it, and because you know,

1106
00:52:32,840 --> 00:52:35,120
Speaker 2: I just feel like in the playoffs he starts to

1107
00:52:35,120 --> 00:52:38,239
Speaker 2: wear down and you know, it seems like it's back

1108
00:52:38,320 --> 00:52:40,879
Speaker 2: and he starts to move like he's seventy two years

1109
00:52:40,880 --> 00:52:43,040
Speaker 2: old and he's barely twenty six.

1110
00:52:43,760 --> 00:52:48,560
Speaker 4: Uh oh, Joe, what you my fault? What do you think?

1111
00:52:48,600 --> 00:52:49,480
Speaker 4: What Lebron gonna do?

1112
00:52:50,040 --> 00:52:50,360
Speaker 6: Listen?

1113
00:52:50,719 --> 00:52:52,799
Speaker 5: Can he can opt out? I mean he could opt

1114
00:52:52,840 --> 00:52:54,640
Speaker 5: in either way. He's gonna be a Laker. He's gonna

1115
00:52:54,640 --> 00:52:57,360
Speaker 5: play another two maybe three years. I think he's gonna

1116
00:52:57,400 --> 00:52:59,640
Speaker 5: do everything he can to stretch it long enough where

1117
00:52:59,640 --> 00:53:02,799
Speaker 5: you can play with his youngest son. Outside of that,

1118
00:53:02,920 --> 00:53:05,000
Speaker 5: with him and Luca had it was special last year.

1119
00:53:05,040 --> 00:53:07,160
Speaker 5: I think he wants to continue that. I think he's

1120
00:53:07,200 --> 00:53:11,759
Speaker 5: gonna have discussions with Jenny and Polinka about getting it

1121
00:53:11,800 --> 00:53:14,439
Speaker 5: big in there and getting some help so they can

1122
00:53:14,560 --> 00:53:16,560
Speaker 5: they can keep He doesn't want to just keep playing

1123
00:53:16,680 --> 00:53:19,480
Speaker 5: and keep opting in or opting or opting out, but

1124
00:53:20,200 --> 00:53:21,920
Speaker 5: building a team and Ryland where they can be in

1125
00:53:21,960 --> 00:53:25,360
Speaker 5: contention year in and year out, and whatever whatever necessary

1126
00:53:25,400 --> 00:53:28,120
Speaker 5: moves needs to be made, they probably be made this season.

1127
00:53:28,480 --> 00:53:31,160
Speaker 6: So they're just not going home in the first round

1128
00:53:31,760 --> 00:53:33,400
Speaker 6: and actually contending for another title.

1129
00:53:35,480 --> 00:53:36,880
Speaker 4: What were you? What was your point you wanted to

1130
00:53:36,920 --> 00:53:39,480
Speaker 4: make Roy lit? I moved on. I forgot that.

1131
00:53:39,480 --> 00:53:42,760
Speaker 2: I'll keep it moving all right, moving de Marcus Cousins,

1132
00:53:42,800 --> 00:53:45,480
Speaker 2: who spent twenty eighteen nineteen season with the Warriors, says

1133
00:53:45,480 --> 00:53:49,040
Speaker 2: Steve Kurr doesn't do well when it comes developing young players,

1134
00:53:49,239 --> 00:53:51,360
Speaker 2: but he said the lack of development could lead to

1135
00:53:51,440 --> 00:53:54,720
Speaker 2: Kamingo wanting out this offseason. I think they lost Kaminga.

1136
00:53:54,760 --> 00:53:57,360
Speaker 2: I think Steve Kerr ruined that relationship this year with

1137
00:53:57,480 --> 00:54:00,279
Speaker 2: the DMPs. We've seen this happen time and time again

1138
00:54:00,280 --> 00:54:02,760
Speaker 2: when it comes to him and dealing with young talent.

1139
00:54:03,040 --> 00:54:05,880
Speaker 2: He just doesn't handle young talent well. He doesn't develop.

1140
00:54:06,280 --> 00:54:08,640
Speaker 2: Out of out of the years he's been there, we've

1141
00:54:08,640 --> 00:54:11,400
Speaker 2: only seen one guy developed under Steve Kerr and they

1142
00:54:11,480 --> 00:54:12,120
Speaker 2: ran him off.

1143
00:54:12,160 --> 00:54:13,120
Speaker 4: That was Jordan Poole.

1144
00:54:13,280 --> 00:54:15,719
Speaker 2: When it comes to young talent, I just don't think

1145
00:54:15,840 --> 00:54:20,399
Speaker 2: he handles it. Well, oh, y'all gonna start with you,

1146
00:54:20,640 --> 00:54:22,520
Speaker 2: do you agree with what Boogie is saying?

1147
00:54:23,000 --> 00:54:23,400
Speaker 4: Little bit?

1148
00:54:23,800 --> 00:54:25,800
Speaker 5: Obviously he was coming from a player of his caliber,

1149
00:54:25,960 --> 00:54:27,960
Speaker 5: you know, as good as big, as good as book.

1150
00:54:28,000 --> 00:54:30,880
Speaker 5: He is knowing the game and knowing the coaches and

1151
00:54:30,960 --> 00:54:34,600
Speaker 5: understanding the players that that he's had his hands and

1152
00:54:34,760 --> 00:54:37,719
Speaker 5: imprint on absolutely right.

1153
00:54:38,120 --> 00:54:40,160
Speaker 6: And there's a there's an example of one that we've.

1154
00:54:39,960 --> 00:54:40,799
Speaker 4: Talked about this year.

1155
00:54:40,920 --> 00:54:43,600
Speaker 6: Uh, over and over and over.

1156
00:54:46,040 --> 00:54:46,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, kaminga.

1157
00:54:47,480 --> 00:54:50,879
Speaker 6: Yeah, it makes no sense, but he did. It makes

1158
00:54:50,920 --> 00:54:51,319
Speaker 6: no sense.

1159
00:54:51,360 --> 00:54:53,439
Speaker 5: And then when Comingian does get the opportunity to play,

1160
00:54:54,000 --> 00:54:56,160
Speaker 5: look at the type of goddamn games he's having.

1161
00:54:56,440 --> 00:54:59,280
Speaker 4: He balls out, He does, this is who you had.

1162
00:54:59,160 --> 00:55:02,439
Speaker 6: On the bench for whatever reason it may have been.

1163
00:55:03,440 --> 00:55:11,719
Speaker 5: Come on man, unexplainable, unexplainable, Roy.

1164
00:55:12,360 --> 00:55:13,760
Speaker 4: You know, it makes me think.

1165
00:55:13,640 --> 00:55:17,520
Speaker 3: About the the There has to be you guys know,

1166
00:55:17,640 --> 00:55:20,560
Speaker 3: there has to be synergy within an organization, you know,

1167
00:55:20,800 --> 00:55:24,160
Speaker 3: and I know Mike Dunley he took over. Uh, we

1168
00:55:24,239 --> 00:55:27,960
Speaker 3: played together. I was working when he was in the

1169
00:55:28,080 --> 00:55:31,520
Speaker 3: Indiana and you know, there there does seemed to be

1170
00:55:31,640 --> 00:55:34,239
Speaker 3: a synergy between like who he's paying and who he's

1171
00:55:34,239 --> 00:55:37,160
Speaker 3: bringing in and you know who the coach is playing.

1172
00:55:37,200 --> 00:55:41,000
Speaker 3: I think about Mike Malone in the situation with the

1173
00:55:41,040 --> 00:55:44,400
Speaker 3: Denver Nuggets. You know, Calvin Booth, I believe, was the

1174
00:55:44,480 --> 00:55:47,440
Speaker 3: gm or president and he was drafting certain players and

1175
00:55:47,480 --> 00:55:49,879
Speaker 3: bringing them in and he wants them to develop them.

1176
00:55:50,080 --> 00:55:53,560
Speaker 3: But he, uh the coach, Malone was playing the older

1177
00:55:53,600 --> 00:55:56,239
Speaker 3: guys and the guys that he can rely on. So

1178
00:55:56,280 --> 00:55:58,920
Speaker 3: for me, and then in the organization ended up getting

1179
00:55:59,040 --> 00:56:01,200
Speaker 3: rid of both of them. So for me, there has

1180
00:56:01,239 --> 00:56:03,840
Speaker 3: to be a synergy there. And at some point, you know,

1181
00:56:04,120 --> 00:56:07,480
Speaker 3: once you know, I'm not sure if he at some

1182
00:56:07,560 --> 00:56:10,120
Speaker 3: point is he going to be the Golden State Warris

1183
00:56:10,120 --> 00:56:13,080
Speaker 3: coach for forever. Maybe there might be a timeline where

1184
00:56:13,120 --> 00:56:14,680
Speaker 3: he may want us to be like, hey, you know what,

1185
00:56:15,000 --> 00:56:18,200
Speaker 3: maybe when Steph is done, I walk away and he's

1186
00:56:18,200 --> 00:56:20,720
Speaker 3: just gonna go with the players that he knows as well.

1187
00:56:20,880 --> 00:56:22,920
Speaker 3: But if there's not a synergy between the front office

1188
00:56:22,920 --> 00:56:24,640
Speaker 3: and the players, if they're bringing if the front office

1189
00:56:24,640 --> 00:56:26,160
Speaker 3: is bringing in players that they need to develop and

1190
00:56:26,200 --> 00:56:28,759
Speaker 3: he's not playing, there's gonna be an issue there. And

1191
00:56:28,800 --> 00:56:32,080
Speaker 3: if you're not winning, it's going to exacerbate the issue.

1192
00:56:32,239 --> 00:56:35,279
Speaker 3: You know, the next year and the next summer that

1193
00:56:35,320 --> 00:56:37,080
Speaker 3: people are gonna be unhappy and you need to build

1194
00:56:37,160 --> 00:56:39,719
Speaker 3: for the future. Steph and those guys are getting older

1195
00:56:39,719 --> 00:56:41,840
Speaker 3: and older and older, and father Time is undefeated.

1196
00:56:42,640 --> 00:56:44,799
Speaker 2: But you know, the problem that they're having is roy

1197
00:56:44,840 --> 00:56:49,560
Speaker 2: and Ojo is that most teams, when you're trying to

1198
00:56:49,560 --> 00:56:52,040
Speaker 2: compete for a title, you're not relying on young players.

1199
00:56:52,600 --> 00:56:53,880
Speaker 4: You going with your core guys.

1200
00:56:54,160 --> 00:56:56,480
Speaker 2: Now see you look at ok see you see okay,

1201
00:56:56,520 --> 00:56:59,040
Speaker 2: See they got rid of all the old guys that say,

1202
00:56:59,080 --> 00:57:02,000
Speaker 2: you know what, we're gonna take lumps right now, but

1203
00:57:02,000 --> 00:57:04,920
Speaker 2: we're gonna build this thing together. We're not Hey, we're

1204
00:57:05,080 --> 00:57:08,080
Speaker 2: under no illusion that we're gonna compete for a title.

1205
00:57:08,280 --> 00:57:10,480
Speaker 2: But when we compete for a title, we're gonna be

1206
00:57:10,480 --> 00:57:12,880
Speaker 2: able to compete for years and years to come because

1207
00:57:12,880 --> 00:57:16,560
Speaker 2: all these guys would have grown grown up together. You see,

1208
00:57:16,600 --> 00:57:19,680
Speaker 2: the problem is you got Steph, you have Clay, you

1209
00:57:19,760 --> 00:57:24,120
Speaker 2: had Dramond, you had Loom, you had veteran guys. Are

1210
00:57:24,200 --> 00:57:27,760
Speaker 2: Iggy before he retired, you had veteran guys. Man, I

1211
00:57:27,800 --> 00:57:29,160
Speaker 2: ain't got time for it for the young guys to

1212
00:57:29,200 --> 00:57:31,520
Speaker 2: be making a mistake ry because you know, a the

1213
00:57:31,600 --> 00:57:33,760
Speaker 2: one thing a coach, oh show you. You know this

1214
00:57:33,800 --> 00:57:38,120
Speaker 2: in football, coaches hate mistakes and rookies. Rookie is gonna

1215
00:57:38,120 --> 00:57:41,200
Speaker 2: make mistakes. That's just the way it works. And it

1216
00:57:41,240 --> 00:57:43,360
Speaker 2: seems like and you seem like Steve, Steve ain't got

1217
00:57:43,400 --> 00:57:44,960
Speaker 2: no problem putting no guy on the bench. He let

1218
00:57:44,960 --> 00:57:46,680
Speaker 2: me put Jason Tatum on the bench. So you know,

1219
00:57:46,760 --> 00:57:48,720
Speaker 2: he ain't got no damn probably putting coming on the bench.

1220
00:57:51,200 --> 00:57:53,600
Speaker 5: You gonna say what Listen now, I'm gonna say you

1221
00:57:53,600 --> 00:57:56,280
Speaker 5: talk about young teams, you know, and and allowing young

1222
00:57:56,320 --> 00:57:58,760
Speaker 5: team to do what they need to do. But those

1223
00:57:58,800 --> 00:58:00,840
Speaker 5: young teams, when you have a young team like okay,

1224
00:58:00,840 --> 00:58:04,040
Speaker 5: see you know as you used for example, yeah you

1225
00:58:04,080 --> 00:58:05,520
Speaker 5: can do that when you got a SGA lead.

1226
00:58:06,520 --> 00:58:06,720
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1227
00:58:06,800 --> 00:58:10,120
Speaker 4: But I'm saying, but you see what they did, think

1228
00:58:10,160 --> 00:58:10,560
Speaker 4: about it.

1229
00:58:11,520 --> 00:58:15,920
Speaker 2: Oh, they trade for SGA, They draft Jalen Williams, They

1230
00:58:16,000 --> 00:58:20,000
Speaker 2: drafted a lot of these guys. Chant Holmer, they say, hey,

1231
00:58:20,040 --> 00:58:21,520
Speaker 2: they go out and get a couple of pieces to

1232
00:58:21,560 --> 00:58:27,080
Speaker 2: add veteran Isaiah Hartenstein. So now they go get lou

1233
00:58:27,120 --> 00:58:29,840
Speaker 2: Dor They said, oh, they go get a Caruso. Guys

1234
00:58:29,880 --> 00:58:32,960
Speaker 2: that have played, that know how to play, that plays

1235
00:58:33,000 --> 00:58:34,960
Speaker 2: their role. To see the thing is the problem that

1236
00:58:35,000 --> 00:58:37,360
Speaker 2: Kaminga has. Kaminga is one of them young guys like, bro,

1237
00:58:37,400 --> 00:58:40,520
Speaker 2: I will try to go get thirty. Well, it's not offense.

1238
00:58:40,560 --> 00:58:42,880
Speaker 2: Steph is supposed to get thirty. You're supposed to get

1239
00:58:42,920 --> 00:58:43,760
Speaker 2: like ten fifteen.

1240
00:58:44,240 --> 00:58:45,880
Speaker 5: Hold on, So you think that might be one of

1241
00:58:45,880 --> 00:58:48,560
Speaker 5: the reasons why you got's.

1242
00:58:48,920 --> 00:58:51,080
Speaker 2: He said that it's hard to get a flow with

1243
00:58:51,200 --> 00:58:53,480
Speaker 2: you out there with Steph because the office is run

1244
00:58:53,520 --> 00:58:54,040
Speaker 2: for Steph.

1245
00:58:54,200 --> 00:58:58,480
Speaker 4: Yes, he's looking off stuff, he said, he's looking off Steph.

1246
00:58:59,080 --> 00:59:02,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, step He's like, nah, Bro, he ain't no, no, no, no,

1247
00:59:02,640 --> 00:59:03,240
Speaker 2: I got this right here.

1248
00:59:03,280 --> 00:59:04,400
Speaker 4: You go on in the coner.

1249
00:59:08,680 --> 00:59:10,720
Speaker 6: So Comedia is one of those that needsess on the team.

1250
00:59:11,360 --> 00:59:15,920
Speaker 2: Yes, it's like pool and that said, oh yeah, and

1251
00:59:16,040 --> 00:59:21,080
Speaker 2: that's and that's okay, that's okay. Just understand that you're

1252
00:59:21,200 --> 00:59:25,160
Speaker 2: probably not gonna win as much. Jordan Poole like, Jordan like, yeah,

1253
00:59:25,200 --> 00:59:29,640
Speaker 2: it's nice to average twenty plus, but we're gonna be

1254
00:59:29,640 --> 00:59:30,560
Speaker 2: in a lottery every year.

1255
00:59:31,200 --> 00:59:33,640
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1256
00:59:33,720 --> 00:59:36,440
Speaker 2: So that's the sacrifice that you have to make. And

1257
00:59:36,480 --> 00:59:38,760
Speaker 2: a lot of times guys have to sacrifice their game.

1258
00:59:38,800 --> 00:59:41,880
Speaker 2: When you're playing with other historically great players, you kind

1259
00:59:41,880 --> 00:59:44,320
Speaker 2: of have to sacrifice they get. You know, ay, it's

1260
00:59:44,400 --> 00:59:46,880
Speaker 2: like pop, he get the big piece of chicken. So okay,

1261
00:59:47,080 --> 00:59:49,840
Speaker 2: you ain't get the breast, so show you get a drumstick,

1262
00:59:49,880 --> 00:59:55,440
Speaker 2: you get a wing. Okay, you get a short thigh.

1263
00:59:55,680 --> 00:59:58,360
Speaker 2: But uh and so that's that's the thing with Kaminga.

1264
00:59:58,360 --> 01:00:00,880
Speaker 2: I think and do I do. I think he's good enough,

1265
01:00:01,640 --> 01:00:04,480
Speaker 2: but if he wants to play there, he's gonna have

1266
01:00:04,520 --> 01:00:06,760
Speaker 2: to understand how to play within that system.

1267
01:00:07,000 --> 01:00:08,680
Speaker 6: That's crazy because.

1268
01:00:08,440 --> 01:00:11,200
Speaker 2: He needs the ball. See, it's not like KD. KD

1269
01:00:11,320 --> 01:00:14,360
Speaker 2: is a fisher. KD didn't need the ball. You're KD

1270
01:00:14,480 --> 01:00:17,840
Speaker 2: fifteen shoans. KD gonna get you twenty seven thirty because

1271
01:00:17,880 --> 01:00:21,480
Speaker 2: he's that efficient. Yeah, Clay is a catch and shoot shooter.

1272
01:00:23,000 --> 01:00:25,080
Speaker 2: Kamina needs the ball because he wants to drive. He

1273
01:00:25,120 --> 01:00:26,520
Speaker 2: wants to put the ball on the floor. He ain't

1274
01:00:26,560 --> 01:00:28,120
Speaker 2: trying to catch and shoot. That's not what he is.

1275
01:00:28,200 --> 01:00:31,920
Speaker 2: That's not his skill set. So it's gonna be interesting

1276
01:00:31,920 --> 01:00:35,080
Speaker 2: to see how this thing plays out. Roy, we're gonna

1277
01:00:35,120 --> 01:00:35,760
Speaker 2: get you out of here.

1278
01:00:35,680 --> 01:00:36,200
Speaker 4: On this one.

1279
01:00:36,200 --> 01:00:40,320
Speaker 2: You played with a young Nikola jokicen Denver. Did you

1280
01:00:40,520 --> 01:00:44,360
Speaker 2: know was there any indication when you saw him in practice?

1281
01:00:44,400 --> 01:00:46,440
Speaker 4: And you watched him when he was.

1282
01:00:46,400 --> 01:00:48,640
Speaker 2: On the court in the games, did you have any

1283
01:00:48,680 --> 01:00:50,440
Speaker 2: indication he was gonna be this?

1284
01:00:51,520 --> 01:00:54,400
Speaker 3: So I'm gonna say this real quick. My last year

1285
01:00:54,440 --> 01:00:56,560
Speaker 3: the NBA, I was on three teams in one year.

1286
01:00:56,600 --> 01:00:58,520
Speaker 3: That's why I know my ass was done. And that

1287
01:00:58,720 --> 01:01:01,479
Speaker 3: was only dever for like a month and a half,

1288
01:01:01,520 --> 01:01:03,600
Speaker 3: so I was like a sabbatical. But I can honestly

1289
01:01:03,640 --> 01:01:06,080
Speaker 3: tell you this that man, I did not see him

1290
01:01:06,080 --> 01:01:08,240
Speaker 3: lift a weight. I would see him in the locker

1291
01:01:08,320 --> 01:01:11,120
Speaker 3: room and like, his build is not what you expect.

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Speaker 3: And I did not think that he would like go

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Speaker 3: on to be like a three time MVP and everything

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Speaker 3: like that. To me, what he's done is incredible. Sometimes

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Speaker 3: I do feel that, you know, towards the end of

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Speaker 3: the series, you know, even as great as he is,

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Speaker 3: he having the ball in his hands a little bit

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Speaker 3: kind of like flows down the offense and not allows

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Speaker 3: other people to get going. I think Jamal Murray could

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Speaker 3: have gotten like ten plus more shots. But they've won

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Speaker 3: a championship. They know what they're doing. But I did

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Speaker 3: not expect him to be as good as he is.

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Speaker 3: I saw Jamal Murray when he was I think a

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Speaker 3: second year player at that time, and he was still

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Speaker 3: he had all the right tools. So that team, I

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Speaker 3: didn't think they were going to be as good as

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Speaker 3: they were. So Kevin, where they tell the chat? Where

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Speaker 3: they can find yet? Roy social media? You got a

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Speaker 3: YouTube page. I have a YouTube page, but I started

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Speaker 3: a speaking business. You can check me out at Roy

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Speaker 3: Hibbert dot com if you're looking for a speaker, I'm

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Speaker 3: your guy. A lot of things I talk about is

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Speaker 3: my whole model is stand tall, start small. I know

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Speaker 3: you guys and athletes can figure out like, hey, you

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Speaker 3: may look the part, but if you don't like put

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Speaker 3: the time in, have the good mindset and obviously you

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Speaker 3: work on your mental as big as you are, you're

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Speaker 3: not going to be able to succeed on the court,

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Speaker 3: in the field, in the C. Smede executive type of

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Speaker 3: space and lets you put that in. So that's what

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Speaker 3: I'm working on. Roy Hibbert dot com, H I, B,

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Speaker 3: D E R T dot com And you can check

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Speaker 3: me out if you like to.

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Speaker 4: You got ig. You got a Twitter page.

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Speaker 3: Twitter is Roy Underscore meets Underscore World and then on Instagram.

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Speaker 3: Roy Hibbert fifty five.

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Speaker 2: All right, Roy, thanks for stopping by man we appreciate

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Speaker 2: your insight on the game, OKC, Minnesota and all things NBA.

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Speaker 4: Hey, well you get some free time, stop back by

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Speaker 4: and chat with us. Bro.

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Speaker 3: Hey oh oh, now I want throw this out there

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Speaker 3: for you real quick, for for for your share your

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Speaker 3: other channel, verything like that.

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Speaker 4: I gotta set you up.

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Speaker 3: You gotta do an interview with my agent, David Falk,

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Speaker 3: MJ's agent. I gotta I gotta be the link in

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Speaker 3: between or something like that. Though I know that, uh,

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Speaker 3: you're a Lebron guy, and then David Falk is obviously

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Speaker 3: a big Michael Jordan guy. If that's ever a thing,

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Speaker 3: I would love to be the in between, nothing, no

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Speaker 3: strings attached, just trying to you know.

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Speaker 2: I appreciate that, Bro, Got you all right? Thank you,

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Speaker 2: Man Jordan. The rest of your evening and we'll talk soon.

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Speaker 2: Got you all right?

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Speaker 1: The volume