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You can listen 0:03:41.520 --> 0:03:44.520 to him this afternoon this evening sixers Wizard seven pm 0:03:44.560 --> 0:03:48.080 Eastern on ESPN, and Mike, this is your twenty six 0:03:48.280 --> 0:03:52.200 season calling the NBA. Is that right? Yeah, it's hard 0:03:52.240 --> 0:03:55.520 to believe Shane. But yeah, twenty six years already. So 0:03:56.080 --> 0:03:59.280 the hair keeps getting grayer and whiter, but I'm still 0:03:59.360 --> 0:04:01.640 having it so much fun. Is when I started. Well, 0:04:01.720 --> 0:04:05.600 I can only assume that the dirt residue on your 0:04:05.640 --> 0:04:08.480 golf clubs will now be on those golf clubs for 0:04:08.560 --> 0:04:11.800 some two three four months. Because you're one of those guys. 0:04:11.840 --> 0:04:13.800 You've told me this in the past. You put the 0:04:13.800 --> 0:04:17.400 clubs away when when the NBA season ramps up and 0:04:17.440 --> 0:04:21.400 kicks off. And unfortunately, they moved the season up this 0:04:21.520 --> 0:04:23.520 year a couple of weeks, which was great for the 0:04:23.600 --> 0:04:26.280 league and for the players to you know, expand the 0:04:26.320 --> 0:04:28.240 schedule a little bit, so they weren't playing as many 0:04:28.240 --> 0:04:31.560 of those four games and five nights. But it's it's 0:04:31.560 --> 0:04:34.400 one of the Saturdays of my year when I come 0:04:34.440 --> 0:04:36.839 in from the final round of the fall, bring the 0:04:36.839 --> 0:04:39.120 clubs down to the basement, put them down there. It's 0:04:39.240 --> 0:04:43.200 it's it's an emotional it's an emotional day. Yeah, you 0:04:43.279 --> 0:04:45.320 separate from the clubs. How often are you getting to play? 0:04:45.360 --> 0:04:47.640 I mean the NBA off season, as you mentioned, I 0:04:47.640 --> 0:04:50.000 mean it's not super long now, I mean it's no 0:04:50.560 --> 0:04:52.840 you know, it's no golf off season, which doesn't really 0:04:52.880 --> 0:04:55.000 happen anymore. But I mean, are you getting out a 0:04:55.040 --> 0:04:57.240 couple of times a week when the NBA wraps up 0:04:57.240 --> 0:05:00.800 when the finals are done? Oh? Absolutely. From from the 0:05:00.880 --> 0:05:02.480 day of the time, I usually try and play the 0:05:02.600 --> 0:05:06.039 very very next day to get going. I'll play three 0:05:06.080 --> 0:05:10.080 times a week for sure, from mid June till till October. 0:05:10.200 --> 0:05:13.000 So I get my share around in for sure. And 0:05:13.240 --> 0:05:14.840 you know you mentioned you don't play a ton on 0:05:14.880 --> 0:05:17.080 the road. I know that you said. You know when 0:05:17.120 --> 0:05:19.200 I played with you a few years back, and you 0:05:19.279 --> 0:05:21.440 told me that you'll you'll have cities that you will 0:05:21.480 --> 0:05:23.719 go play golf, You'll bring your clubs. What are the 0:05:23.760 --> 0:05:26.480 cities where you've You're thinking to yourself, I've got to 0:05:26.520 --> 0:05:28.320 make sure I packed the sticks because I'm probably gonna 0:05:28.320 --> 0:05:30.720 get in around a golf on this trip. Well, A 0:05:30.760 --> 0:05:32.640 lot of it has to do with, you know, if 0:05:32.640 --> 0:05:34.960 you have friends in the city, or obviously the weather, 0:05:35.440 --> 0:05:40.400 so Orlando in Miami, Um, Miami is more difficult. In Orlando. 0:05:40.400 --> 0:05:42.840 I've got a good buddy named Randy Coppleman who who 0:05:42.839 --> 0:05:45.880 I played golf with down in Orlando, so I try 0:05:45.880 --> 0:05:49.479 and bring him down there obviously l A. UM, there's 0:05:49.520 --> 0:05:52.000 a couple of different places. I've got to know some 0:05:52.040 --> 0:05:55.440 friends in San Francisco. UM, there's some great courses out 0:05:55.440 --> 0:05:59.160 there every once in a while. In Dallas, I got 0:05:59.240 --> 0:06:01.680 another buddy name and Joe Palladino and Dallas who all 0:06:01.760 --> 0:06:05.080 play with so UM. A lot depends on how easy 0:06:05.120 --> 0:06:07.560 it is. The thing. The thing, Jane, is that you 0:06:07.560 --> 0:06:11.719 know with the NBA it's different from from baseball, and 0:06:11.760 --> 0:06:14.440 that it's you're in and out, so really not a 0:06:14.440 --> 0:06:16.560 lot of time. The best time for me, believe it 0:06:16.600 --> 0:06:20.159 or not, is sometimes during the playoffs because if you're 0:06:20.200 --> 0:06:22.280 in a city for saying, games three and four, you're 0:06:22.320 --> 0:06:23.800 in the city for four days and you have a 0:06:23.920 --> 0:06:26.440 day off in between games. So sometimes I get to 0:06:26.440 --> 0:06:29.760 do it at time. But as I've gotten older and 0:06:30.440 --> 0:06:34.839 my love of golf has increased, I'm trying. I'm trying 0:06:34.839 --> 0:06:37.440 to find ways say, Okay, I can probably get in 0:06:37.480 --> 0:06:40.560 around there. I can get in around there, but it 0:06:40.680 --> 0:06:43.080 is still hard because there really is still a lot 0:06:43.080 --> 0:06:46.480 of preparation to go in uh into each telecast. Yeah, 0:06:46.520 --> 0:06:48.560 I mean, are you a guy that, now that you 0:06:48.640 --> 0:06:50.880 mentioned your your love of golf kind of extending as 0:06:50.920 --> 0:06:52.120 you get a little bit older. Are you one of 0:06:52.120 --> 0:06:55.240 those guys that says, well, you know, I'm in I'm 0:06:55.279 --> 0:06:56.840 doing a game in l A. I need to go 0:06:56.920 --> 0:06:58.920 play bell Air. I've never played bell Air before. I mean, 0:06:58.960 --> 0:07:00.599 are you a guy that kind of takes those courses 0:07:00.640 --> 0:07:03.440 off your list knowing that there's so many out there 0:07:03.480 --> 0:07:07.960 that are considered great or historic or a top one course? Yeah, 0:07:07.960 --> 0:07:09.960 that's you know what change And you know this as well. 0:07:09.920 --> 0:07:12.800 It's anybody. That's the beauty of it in that you know, 0:07:12.880 --> 0:07:16.720 there are so many great courses everywhere, and some of 0:07:16.760 --> 0:07:19.040 them are the other known ones, and every once in 0:07:19.080 --> 0:07:20.800 a while, some he tells you about, of course you've 0:07:20.800 --> 0:07:23.320 never heard of, and you go play it and it's 0:07:23.800 --> 0:07:25.680 it's off the charts and you fall in love with it. 0:07:25.800 --> 0:07:28.840 So um as. The other thing for me too is 0:07:28.920 --> 0:07:32.440 I'm a father of three and now my kids are older. 0:07:32.840 --> 0:07:37.440 So instead of you know, rushing back um to be 0:07:37.560 --> 0:07:40.880 with the kids a short road trip, sometimes I'll stay 0:07:40.960 --> 0:07:42.880 over in the city and play that morning before I 0:07:42.920 --> 0:07:45.760 fly home, or you fly in the day before. And 0:07:45.800 --> 0:07:47.320 now because the kids are out of the house, my 0:07:47.360 --> 0:07:50.080 wife comes on trips with me as well. So. Um, 0:07:50.320 --> 0:07:52.160 so as I've gotten a little, the chance to play 0:07:52.240 --> 0:07:54.840 is a little a little easier. So what you're telling 0:07:54.880 --> 0:07:56.920 me is, once I have kids in the next couple 0:07:56.960 --> 0:07:58.640 of years, I'm not going to play golf ever again. 0:07:58.720 --> 0:08:00.360 Is that kind of the deal? Is like, I won't 0:08:00.360 --> 0:08:03.800 say ever again, but the amount around I have. I 0:08:03.840 --> 0:08:06.200 have a couple of good friends who recently or the 0:08:06.400 --> 0:08:09.280 right smack in the middle of raising children, you know, 0:08:09.320 --> 0:08:12.320 whether it's like eight, nine and ten, and I said 0:08:12.360 --> 0:08:14.880 to him, believe and they complain about they can't play, 0:08:14.960 --> 0:08:17.680 and not complain but realize they can't. Say we've all 0:08:17.720 --> 0:08:20.000 been there. It's you know, you go through stretches where 0:08:20.000 --> 0:08:23.120 it's it's really hard to get in around. But um, 0:08:23.240 --> 0:08:24.880 that's one of the one of the good things about 0:08:24.880 --> 0:08:29.560 getting all the recipiant more chance to play. Well. You know, ABC, 0:08:29.880 --> 0:08:33.000 ESPN had the Open Championship for a lengthy amount of time. 0:08:33.400 --> 0:08:37.040 Did you ever consider getting into the gulf side of broadcasting? 0:08:37.120 --> 0:08:39.079 Was that ever something you I mean, you you love 0:08:39.120 --> 0:08:41.280 the game. Was that ever something that you've talked about 0:08:41.360 --> 0:08:44.560 or thought about doing? You know, I came, I came close. 0:08:45.320 --> 0:08:49.960 I can't remember the year, but um, when NBC I 0:08:50.000 --> 0:08:52.440 worked at NBC for for a number of years. I 0:08:52.480 --> 0:08:54.720 did the NBA and some NFL and I did a 0:08:54.720 --> 0:08:58.079 bunch of Olympics for them as well, and they were 0:08:58.120 --> 0:08:59.880 just the best to work for and Dick ever, so 0:09:00.000 --> 0:09:03.680 all was was so good to me. And when when 0:09:03.720 --> 0:09:07.480 Dick Enburgh left NBC and they moved Dan Hicks up, 0:09:08.360 --> 0:09:11.920 they needed another golf announcer, and you know, I don't 0:09:11.920 --> 0:09:14.440 think they officially offered it to me, but they approached 0:09:14.440 --> 0:09:18.320 me about my interest, and obviously I was interested. It 0:09:18.320 --> 0:09:20.520 would have been wonderful, but at that point my kids 0:09:20.520 --> 0:09:24.400 were we're still pretty young, and to take on golf 0:09:24.520 --> 0:09:27.680 in addition to uh to the NBA would have meant 0:09:27.720 --> 0:09:30.160 I would have never been home. And as much as 0:09:30.200 --> 0:09:33.920 I would have loved to have even inquired and maybe 0:09:33.920 --> 0:09:36.440 thought about doing it, it wouldn't wouldn't have been the 0:09:36.480 --> 0:09:38.000 right thing to do. And I just would have been 0:09:38.000 --> 0:09:40.440 away from my wife and kids too much. So so 0:09:40.559 --> 0:09:43.280 I said no, and and uh, you know, it's it's 0:09:43.280 --> 0:09:45.160 one of those bucket list things I'd love to do, 0:09:45.559 --> 0:09:48.439 but because the NBA schedule is so intense during the year, 0:09:48.679 --> 0:09:50.839 I need my time off in the summer, and plus 0:09:50.880 --> 0:09:53.400 there are many more better golf commentators than I, so 0:09:53.600 --> 0:09:55.960 I enjoy watching from home. Well, yeah, I was gonna ask, 0:09:55.960 --> 0:09:57.640 how much viewing are you getting in? I mean, are 0:09:57.679 --> 0:09:59.800 you a guy that the NBA season ends in your 0:10:00.000 --> 0:10:01.440 act out? I mean, I'm sure you keep up with 0:10:01.480 --> 0:10:03.400 what's happening every year? You are you? Are you watching 0:10:03.400 --> 0:10:05.000 a lot of golf events on the weekend? Are you 0:10:05.040 --> 0:10:07.880 watching some baseball? What's your kind of sports viewing schedule 0:10:08.000 --> 0:10:11.440 once your broadcasting duties in. Oh, it's there's you know 0:10:11.480 --> 0:10:13.760 when when you're when you're doing games all year long, 0:10:14.200 --> 0:10:17.600 and you're constantly preparing, and you're and you're on the 0:10:17.640 --> 0:10:20.160 air when the season ends, it's so much fun to 0:10:20.200 --> 0:10:23.960 sit back and watch other people work hard. I'm a 0:10:24.000 --> 0:10:26.640 I'm a crazy met fan, so I love to watch 0:10:26.679 --> 0:10:29.760 the Mets, but I watch every weekend I'm watching the 0:10:29.800 --> 0:10:33.840 golf tournament and frequently. Um, the Golf Channel is one 0:10:33.880 --> 0:10:36.959 of my favorites. I love the instructional stuff, I love 0:10:37.000 --> 0:10:40.480 the debate stuff. I love the tournaments. I love watching 0:10:40.520 --> 0:10:43.720 tournaments from all over the world. Um, I'll even watch 0:10:43.800 --> 0:10:49.040 the the web tournaments and it's it's it's an addiction 0:10:49.120 --> 0:10:52.880 that just to watch people, other people play, other people 0:10:52.920 --> 0:10:55.960 talk to you about golf. It's I want. I don't 0:10:55.960 --> 0:10:58.080 know if it's the first channel I turned on, but 0:10:58.280 --> 0:11:01.000 it's on every night at least checking see what's on it. Well, 0:11:01.080 --> 0:11:03.200 you're not the only guy that's got the golf bug 0:11:03.240 --> 0:11:05.480 in the NBA world. I mean, it seems as though 0:11:05.520 --> 0:11:08.400 the last five ten years it's really become an obsession 0:11:08.400 --> 0:11:09.679 with some of the guys on the court. I mean, 0:11:09.720 --> 0:11:13.000 Steph Curry famously plays, loves playing, is playing in those 0:11:13.000 --> 0:11:16.079 web events. You've got Kent Baysmore, who I think I've 0:11:16.080 --> 0:11:18.120 seen Ken Baysmore out of golf events more than I 0:11:18.160 --> 0:11:19.719 see some of my camera guys. I mean, he is 0:11:19.760 --> 0:11:22.520 out there almost every single week. He's become obsaysed Andre 0:11:22.600 --> 0:11:24.679 Wadala is a guy that loves the game. Do you 0:11:24.720 --> 0:11:27.440 feel like golf is becoming the player's name, get your 0:11:27.720 --> 0:11:30.840 more fantastic golfer? Has this always been a thing now 0:11:31.240 --> 0:11:33.560 for some reason, I think there's been an increase in 0:11:33.720 --> 0:11:37.120 the amount of guys are playned Um, those guys that 0:11:37.200 --> 0:11:41.599 you mentioned, uh Igodala and obviously Steph Curry j R. 0:11:41.640 --> 0:11:44.000 Smith's another one. When I see them when I'm doing 0:11:44.000 --> 0:11:46.719 a game for them. The first thing I always ask 0:11:46.840 --> 0:11:49.320 them is how's the game, how's the short game, what's 0:11:49.320 --> 0:11:52.680 the handicap where he's played recently? Um, that's the first. 0:11:52.960 --> 0:11:57.280 That's the first conversation we have before basketball, because everybody's 0:11:57.280 --> 0:11:59.680 all addicted to it. And and one time I even 0:11:59.720 --> 0:12:02.160 ask I was doing a sit down interview with Steph 0:12:02.240 --> 0:12:05.000 Curry and I asked him, I sit on you know, 0:12:05.040 --> 0:12:07.679 on on off nights. Are you watching other players? Are 0:12:07.720 --> 0:12:10.679 you watching another what do you like? And he says, Now, 0:12:10.840 --> 0:12:13.200 he says, I watched the Golf channel, So I knew. 0:12:13.320 --> 0:12:15.720 I knew he had that addiction. And it seems that 0:12:15.760 --> 0:12:18.439 more and more guys are playing every year. Yeah, I had. 0:12:18.600 --> 0:12:21.240 I had Andrea Goodala on the podcast a few months back, 0:12:21.320 --> 0:12:23.720 and it was before obviously they won the championship, and 0:12:23.760 --> 0:12:26.640 you know they you know, Andre and Steve Kerr and 0:12:26.640 --> 0:12:29.560 and Curry went to Augustin National was kind of their 0:12:29.880 --> 0:12:32.480 their celebration to themselves after they won the first championship. 0:12:32.480 --> 0:12:34.400 And I asked him, I said, what's the what's the 0:12:34.400 --> 0:12:35.760 stop if you guys do it this year? And he 0:12:35.840 --> 0:12:38.120 kind of had about a three second pause and he went, well, 0:12:38.120 --> 0:12:39.800 we're gonna go back to August. Of course, it was 0:12:39.840 --> 0:12:42.200 like a silly question of mine to ask, you know why. 0:12:42.240 --> 0:12:43.800 He was like, why else would we do this? All? 0:12:43.920 --> 0:12:45.480 We change a good thing. Let's just go back to 0:12:45.480 --> 0:12:49.760 where the masters is. Well, I um, the first time 0:12:49.800 --> 0:12:53.320 I played golf with an NBA player was Dan Marley. 0:12:53.360 --> 0:12:55.520 Do you remember Dan Marley? Sure? Yeah, I live in 0:12:55.559 --> 0:12:58.920 Phoenix under Dan was a great player for Phoenix and 0:12:59.240 --> 0:13:01.440 with the Miami Heat, and now he's doing a great 0:13:01.480 --> 0:13:04.240 job and he's coaching Grand Canyon, and he was just 0:13:04.320 --> 0:13:07.640 a tremendous athlete and as in Phoenix on time, he 0:13:07.640 --> 0:13:10.800 he took me out to play and and Dan was just, uh, 0:13:10.920 --> 0:13:13.440 he's so much fun to play with. But he was 0:13:13.480 --> 0:13:17.240 so good, and he taunted and and just was in 0:13:17.240 --> 0:13:20.240 your face and wanted to win. So we went out 0:13:20.280 --> 0:13:23.040 and played, and so he birdie's the first three holes, 0:13:23.080 --> 0:13:25.800 he was that good. And then on the fourth hole, 0:13:25.840 --> 0:13:28.200 I think it was a part four where he hits 0:13:28.200 --> 0:13:31.400 his approach shot over the green and my only solaces 0:13:31.400 --> 0:13:34.920 I'm getting whacked. I'm already down three. Oh is that 0:13:35.160 --> 0:13:37.240 his birdie street comes to an end? So, of course, 0:13:37.320 --> 0:13:39.160 not giving it back to I'm like well, I guess 0:13:39.160 --> 0:13:40.800 you're not going to birdie every hole day and just 0:13:40.920 --> 0:13:43.000 anything to say to him to get him off my back. 0:13:43.600 --> 0:13:45.240 What do you think he does? He chips it in 0:13:45.320 --> 0:13:47.360 from off the green for his fourth birdie in a row. 0:13:47.840 --> 0:13:51.720 He laughed so hard that he could barely finish her around. 0:13:52.000 --> 0:13:53.920 I think he I know he didn't have any more 0:13:53.920 --> 0:13:56.640 birdies after that, but it was such a funny moment 0:13:56.720 --> 0:13:59.120 to him, and it showed me that, you know, he's 0:13:59.160 --> 0:14:03.120 basketball players. Some of them are just tremendous um. They're 0:14:03.160 --> 0:14:07.320 obviously they're hand eye coordination and their athleticism, but he 0:14:07.480 --> 0:14:09.760 was just he was a magnificent player. And I've been 0:14:09.800 --> 0:14:11.760 fortunate to play with a bunch of other guys as well, 0:14:12.480 --> 0:14:14.440 and some of them are just so good and they're 0:14:14.440 --> 0:14:17.000 so addicted to it like we all are. Well, so 0:14:17.040 --> 0:14:19.920 how does that conversation start? So you you approach a 0:14:19.960 --> 0:14:21.320 player and say, hey, do you want to see it 0:14:21.360 --> 0:14:23.240 up to they come up to you and and do it. 0:14:23.280 --> 0:14:25.600 I mean, are you are you weary at times to 0:14:25.720 --> 0:14:27.040 do that or to not do that? Or is it 0:14:27.120 --> 0:14:29.080 just something that's that's a nice way to kind of 0:14:29.080 --> 0:14:30.600 get to know these guys that are on the court 0:14:30.600 --> 0:14:34.080 that you're calling for the entire season. You know what it's, Um, 0:14:34.400 --> 0:14:37.200 I've been doing it long enough where you established relationships 0:14:37.200 --> 0:14:40.000 so you know guys well enough. UM. And certain guys 0:14:40.080 --> 0:14:42.800 that's like just go up, hey, what's your handicap? Or 0:14:42.840 --> 0:14:46.120 tell me the best place you played recently. Um. You know, 0:14:46.200 --> 0:14:48.440 during the season, it's it's rare you get to play 0:14:48.480 --> 0:14:51.480 with with any of them. But it's UM, it is 0:14:51.680 --> 0:14:55.400 it's an easy conversation and you're always looking in my business. 0:14:55.840 --> 0:14:57.880 You know, you want to try and establish a rapport 0:14:57.880 --> 0:15:00.640 in a relationship. And these guys, they're so sick of 0:15:00.680 --> 0:15:02.720 talking about basketball all the time. I mean, for me 0:15:02.760 --> 0:15:04.200 to go up to him ask him, hey, what's up 0:15:04.200 --> 0:15:06.720 with your defense lately? You know, they they have shoot 0:15:06.760 --> 0:15:08.520 arounds in the morning where they talk to the media. 0:15:08.640 --> 0:15:11.000 They have before and after games they talked to the media, 0:15:11.080 --> 0:15:13.359 So they get kind of sick and tired of talking basketball. 0:15:13.920 --> 0:15:16.000 So when they get a chance to talk about anything 0:15:16.080 --> 0:15:19.120 other than basketball, it's like their eyes light up. They 0:15:19.160 --> 0:15:20.920 want to talk. They'll talk to you for twenty minutes, 0:15:20.960 --> 0:15:23.240 whereas if you're asking them basketball questions all the time, 0:15:23.280 --> 0:15:25.840 they're just you know, it's it's like anything, they just 0:15:25.880 --> 0:15:28.760 get get tired of doing the same thing. Well, I'm 0:15:28.800 --> 0:15:31.320 assuming the answer might be DM Marley, But who is 0:15:31.400 --> 0:15:34.080 the best golfer that's an NBA player that you've ever 0:15:34.120 --> 0:15:39.920 played with? Um, Dan's gonna be mad me saying this, 0:15:40.000 --> 0:15:42.000 But but I did get a chance to play with 0:15:42.000 --> 0:15:45.040 with Steph Curry this summer and he is. Um it's 0:15:45.040 --> 0:15:49.440 phenomenal how good he is his length and his short 0:15:49.520 --> 0:15:53.800 game is putting a little bit of everything. Um, he's 0:15:53.840 --> 0:15:55.440 really good. I played with him and his dad and 0:15:55.480 --> 0:15:57.720 his dad del who was who was an excellent player 0:15:58.240 --> 0:16:03.160 as well. Uh in the NBA is so good as 0:16:03.200 --> 0:16:05.880 a golfer as well. And you can see, like if 0:16:06.280 --> 0:16:08.640 I think if if Steph gave up basketball and just 0:16:08.760 --> 0:16:12.200 concentrated on practicing, because he doesn't practice much and he 0:16:12.280 --> 0:16:14.920 doesn't play a heck of a lot either, if he 0:16:15.120 --> 0:16:20.480 got a chance to to really work, to me, there's 0:16:20.520 --> 0:16:22.680 no question he could be a pro. And I don't 0:16:22.720 --> 0:16:24.320 mean that to be insulting to the p G A 0:16:24.960 --> 0:16:28.400 guys who are phenomenal at what they do. And we 0:16:28.440 --> 0:16:30.400 all know there's so many good guys who don't make 0:16:30.400 --> 0:16:32.760 the p G eight Tour and they're they're just a 0:16:33.120 --> 0:16:36.400 just a step those guys. But I think Steph has 0:16:36.480 --> 0:16:39.240 that kind of that kind of talent and ability. Was 0:16:39.280 --> 0:16:41.480 this before or after he played in the Web? Then 0:16:41.480 --> 0:16:44.280 when you played with him, it was after? Okay, did 0:16:44.400 --> 0:16:46.440 did he say he was Did he say he spent 0:16:46.520 --> 0:16:49.640 more time preparing? I mean, you say he doesn't practice 0:16:49.640 --> 0:16:51.080 a lot? Did he spend a lot of time as 0:16:51.080 --> 0:16:52.960 he was getting closer and closer to that to prepare? 0:16:53.040 --> 0:16:55.280 Because him going out and doing what he did in 0:16:55.320 --> 0:16:57.160 those two rounds, I mean he missed the cut, sure, 0:16:57.280 --> 0:17:00.520 but not embarrassing yourself on the golf course and completely 0:17:00.520 --> 0:17:04.520 different atmosphere was extremely impressive to you know, me and 0:17:04.560 --> 0:17:06.760 really everybody in the golf community. What he did. Did 0:17:06.800 --> 0:17:08.800 he say he spent more time preparing? Did he say 0:17:08.840 --> 0:17:11.159 he spent a month or six weeks or something like 0:17:11.200 --> 0:17:13.000 that getting his game? Or you know what he didn't 0:17:13.000 --> 0:17:15.720 He didn't get into that. Um, he just you know, 0:17:16.760 --> 0:17:21.760 he said that he was obviously nervous, but it just, um, 0:17:21.840 --> 0:17:25.119 you know, he has unbelievable respect for professional golfers, and 0:17:25.160 --> 0:17:28.000 he said after doing that, it just you know, the 0:17:28.480 --> 0:17:33.240 respect increased because you see, you know, it's so different. 0:17:33.280 --> 0:17:36.040 I mean, we we all think we can play well 0:17:36.080 --> 0:17:41.240 at our own levels, even on tough, tough courses. But 0:17:41.280 --> 0:17:43.400 then when you go out there and that's setting, when 0:17:43.400 --> 0:17:46.200 the courses are really made up to make it so difficult, 0:17:46.280 --> 0:17:49.159 and and everybody is good, and you have pressure on 0:17:49.240 --> 0:17:52.879 every shot because you know, you know everybody's gonna be 0:17:52.920 --> 0:17:56.800 putting the great scores. I mean, you're you're respectful what 0:17:56.840 --> 0:17:59.880 these guys do weekend and week out. Have to perform, 0:18:00.080 --> 0:18:03.640 have to grind and have to focus. Um, anybody who's 0:18:03.640 --> 0:18:05.639 ever played the game of golf would would just be 0:18:05.680 --> 0:18:09.000 blown away by by the ability to do that every week. 0:18:09.600 --> 0:18:12.240 And uh, I think every coffee should get a chance 0:18:12.280 --> 0:18:14.280 to play in, you know, some kind of tournament like that, 0:18:14.320 --> 0:18:16.639 because it just shows you how great these these professional 0:18:16.640 --> 0:18:19.240 golfers are. Well. I wanted to switch over to NBA 0:18:19.320 --> 0:18:22.000 for a bit. Tuesday night obviously was opening night, and 0:18:22.040 --> 0:18:24.520 I mean, everybody was extremely fired up for the start 0:18:24.520 --> 0:18:26.639 of the season, and then of course the Gordon Hayward 0:18:26.640 --> 0:18:28.800 thing happens. What six minutes into the game. Can you 0:18:28.880 --> 0:18:32.400 remember a more somber start to an NBA season? Considering 0:18:32.440 --> 0:18:35.679 the hype and all the teams changing players moving around. 0:18:36.200 --> 0:18:38.399 Can you can you remember a moment like this happening 0:18:38.440 --> 0:18:42.240 to start off an NBA season. Yeah, you know there's 0:18:42.640 --> 0:18:45.959 unfortunately Shane, over the course of the views I've been 0:18:45.960 --> 0:18:48.680 doing it, there's always seems to be one or two injuries, 0:18:48.680 --> 0:18:53.199 and but this one, for some reason, it's like a 0:18:53.280 --> 0:18:55.800 punch to the gut. I was really sick to my stomach. 0:18:56.240 --> 0:18:58.840