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Speaker 1: man for the NBA on ABC ESPN. You can listen
Speaker 1: to him this afternoon this evening sixers Wizard seven pm
Speaker 1: Eastern on ESPN, and Mike, this is your twenty six
Speaker 1: season calling the NBA. Is that right? Yeah, it's hard
Speaker 1: to believe Shane. But yeah, twenty six years already. So
Speaker 1: the hair keeps getting grayer and whiter, but I'm still
Speaker 1: having it so much fun. Is when I started. Well,
Speaker 1: I can only assume that the dirt residue on your
Speaker 1: golf clubs will now be on those golf clubs for
Speaker 1: some two three four months. Because you're one of those guys.
Speaker 1: You've told me this in the past. You put the
Speaker 1: clubs away when when the NBA season ramps up and
Speaker 1: kicks off. And unfortunately, they moved the season up this
Speaker 1: year a couple of weeks, which was great for the
Speaker 1: league and for the players to you know, expand the
Speaker 1: schedule a little bit, so they weren't playing as many
Speaker 1: of those four games and five nights. But it's it's
Speaker 1: one of the Saturdays of my year when I come
Speaker 1: in from the final round of the fall, bring the
Speaker 1: clubs down to the basement, put them down there. It's
Speaker 1: it's it's an emotional it's an emotional day. Yeah, you
Speaker 1: separate from the clubs. How often are you getting to play?
Speaker 1: I mean the NBA off season, as you mentioned, I
Speaker 1: mean it's not super long now, I mean it's no
Speaker 1: you know, it's no golf off season, which doesn't really
Speaker 1: happen anymore. But I mean, are you getting out a
Speaker 1: couple of times a week when the NBA wraps up
Speaker 1: when the finals are done? Oh? Absolutely. From from the
Speaker 1: day of the time, I usually try and play the
Speaker 1: very very next day to get going. I'll play three
Speaker 1: times a week for sure, from mid June till till October.
Speaker 1: So I get my share around in for sure. And
Speaker 1: you know you mentioned you don't play a ton on
Speaker 1: the road. I know that you said. You know when
Speaker 1: I played with you a few years back, and you
Speaker 1: told me that you'll you'll have cities that you will
Speaker 1: go play golf, You'll bring your clubs. What are the
Speaker 1: cities where you've You're thinking to yourself, I've got to
Speaker 1: make sure I packed the sticks because I'm probably gonna
Speaker 1: get in around a golf on this trip. Well, A
Speaker 1: lot of it has to do with, you know, if
Speaker 1: you have friends in the city, or obviously the weather,
Speaker 1: so Orlando in Miami, Um, Miami is more difficult. In Orlando.
Speaker 1: I've got a good buddy named Randy Coppleman who who
Speaker 1: I played golf with down in Orlando, so I try
Speaker 1: and bring him down there obviously l A. UM, there's
Speaker 1: a couple of different places. I've got to know some
Speaker 1: friends in San Francisco. UM, there's some great courses out
Speaker 1: there every once in a while. In Dallas, I got
Speaker 1: another buddy name and Joe Palladino and Dallas who all
Speaker 1: play with so UM. A lot depends on how easy
Speaker 1: it is. The thing. The thing, Jane, is that you
Speaker 1: know with the NBA it's different from from baseball, and
Speaker 1: that it's you're in and out, so really not a
Speaker 1: lot of time. The best time for me, believe it
Speaker 1: or not, is sometimes during the playoffs because if you're
Speaker 1: in a city for saying, games three and four, you're
Speaker 1: in the city for four days and you have a
Speaker 1: day off in between games. So sometimes I get to
Speaker 1: do it at time. But as I've gotten older and
Speaker 1: my love of golf has increased, I'm trying. I'm trying
Speaker 1: to find ways say, Okay, I can probably get in
Speaker 1: around there. I can get in around there, but it
Speaker 1: is still hard because there really is still a lot
Speaker 1: of preparation to go in uh into each telecast. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, are you a guy that, now that you
Speaker 1: mentioned your your love of golf kind of extending as
Speaker 1: you get a little bit older. Are you one of
Speaker 1: those guys that says, well, you know, I'm in I'm
Speaker 1: doing a game in l A. I need to go
Speaker 1: play bell Air. I've never played bell Air before. I mean,
Speaker 1: are you a guy that kind of takes those courses
Speaker 1: off your list knowing that there's so many out there
Speaker 1: that are considered great or historic or a top one course? Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's you know what change And you know this as well.
Speaker 1: It's anybody. That's the beauty of it in that you know,
Speaker 1: there are so many great courses everywhere, and some of
Speaker 1: them are the other known ones, and every once in
Speaker 1: a while, some he tells you about, of course you've
Speaker 1: never heard of, and you go play it and it's
Speaker 1: it's off the charts and you fall in love with it.
Speaker 1: So um as. The other thing for me too is
Speaker 1: I'm a father of three and now my kids are older.
Speaker 1: So instead of you know, rushing back um to be
Speaker 1: with the kids a short road trip, sometimes I'll stay
Speaker 1: over in the city and play that morning before I
Speaker 1: fly home, or you fly in the day before. And
Speaker 1: now because the kids are out of the house, my
Speaker 1: wife comes on trips with me as well. So. Um,
Speaker 1: so as I've gotten a little, the chance to play
Speaker 1: is a little a little easier. So what you're telling
Speaker 1: me is, once I have kids in the next couple
Speaker 1: of years, I'm not going to play golf ever again.
Speaker 1: Is that kind of the deal? Is like, I won't
Speaker 1: say ever again, but the amount around I have. I
Speaker 1: have a couple of good friends who recently or the
Speaker 1: right smack in the middle of raising children, you know,
Speaker 1: whether it's like eight, nine and ten, and I said
Speaker 1: to him, believe and they complain about they can't play,
Speaker 1: and not complain but realize they can't. Say we've all
Speaker 1: been there. It's you know, you go through stretches where
Speaker 1: it's it's really hard to get in around. But um,
Speaker 1: that's one of the one of the good things about
Speaker 1: getting all the recipiant more chance to play. Well. You know, ABC,
Speaker 1: ESPN had the Open Championship for a lengthy amount of time.
Speaker 1: Did you ever consider getting into the gulf side of broadcasting?
Speaker 1: Was that ever something you I mean, you you love
Speaker 1: the game. Was that ever something that you've talked about
Speaker 1: or thought about doing? You know, I came, I came close.
Speaker 1: I can't remember the year, but um, when NBC I
Speaker 1: worked at NBC for for a number of years. I
Speaker 1: did the NBA and some NFL and I did a
Speaker 1: bunch of Olympics for them as well, and they were
Speaker 1: just the best to work for and Dick ever, so
Speaker 1: all was was so good to me. And when when
Speaker 1: Dick Enburgh left NBC and they moved Dan Hicks up,
Speaker 1: they needed another golf announcer, and you know, I don't
Speaker 1: think they officially offered it to me, but they approached
Speaker 1: me about my interest, and obviously I was interested. It
Speaker 1: would have been wonderful, but at that point my kids
Speaker 1: were we're still pretty young, and to take on golf
Speaker 1: in addition to uh to the NBA would have meant
Speaker 1: I would have never been home. And as much as
Speaker 1: I would have loved to have even inquired and maybe
Speaker 1: thought about doing it, it wouldn't wouldn't have been the
Speaker 1: right thing to do. And I just would have been
Speaker 1: away from my wife and kids too much. So so
Speaker 1: I said no, and and uh, you know, it's it's
Speaker 1: one of those bucket list things I'd love to do,
Speaker 1: but because the NBA schedule is so intense during the year,
Speaker 1: I need my time off in the summer, and plus
Speaker 1: there are many more better golf commentators than I, so
Speaker 1: I enjoy watching from home. Well, yeah, I was gonna ask,
Speaker 1: how much viewing are you getting in? I mean, are
Speaker 1: you a guy that the NBA season ends in your
Speaker 1: act out? I mean, I'm sure you keep up with
Speaker 1: what's happening every year? You are you? Are you watching
Speaker 1: a lot of golf events on the weekend? Are you
Speaker 1: watching some baseball? What's your kind of sports viewing schedule
Speaker 1: once your broadcasting duties in. Oh, it's there's you know
Speaker 1: when when you're when you're doing games all year long,
Speaker 1: and you're constantly preparing, and you're and you're on the
Speaker 1: air when the season ends, it's so much fun to
Speaker 1: sit back and watch other people work hard. I'm a
Speaker 1: I'm a crazy met fan, so I love to watch
Speaker 1: the Mets, but I watch every weekend I'm watching the
Speaker 1: golf tournament and frequently. Um, the Golf Channel is one
Speaker 1: of my favorites. I love the instructional stuff, I love
Speaker 1: the debate stuff. I love the tournaments. I love watching
Speaker 1: tournaments from all over the world. Um, I'll even watch
Speaker 1: the the web tournaments and it's it's it's an addiction
Speaker 1: that just to watch people, other people play, other people
Speaker 1: talk to you about golf. It's I want. I don't
Speaker 1: know if it's the first channel I turned on, but
Speaker 1: it's on every night at least checking see what's on it. Well,
Speaker 1: you're not the only guy that's got the golf bug
Speaker 1: in the NBA world. I mean, it seems as though
Speaker 1: the last five ten years it's really become an obsession
Speaker 1: with some of the guys on the court. I mean,
Speaker 1: Steph Curry famously plays, loves playing, is playing in those
Speaker 1: web events. You've got Kent Baysmore, who I think I've
Speaker 1: seen Ken Baysmore out of golf events more than I
Speaker 1: see some of my camera guys. I mean, he is
Speaker 1: out there almost every single week. He's become obsaysed Andre
Speaker 1: Wadala is a guy that loves the game. Do you
Speaker 1: feel like golf is becoming the player's name, get your
Speaker 1: more fantastic golfer? Has this always been a thing now
Speaker 1: for some reason, I think there's been an increase in
Speaker 1: the amount of guys are playned Um, those guys that
Speaker 1: you mentioned, uh Igodala and obviously Steph Curry j R.
Speaker 1: Smith's another one. When I see them when I'm doing
Speaker 1: a game for them. The first thing I always ask
Speaker 1: them is how's the game, how's the short game, what's
Speaker 1: the handicap where he's played recently? Um, that's the first.
Speaker 1: That's the first conversation we have before basketball, because everybody's
Speaker 1: all addicted to it. And and one time I even
Speaker 1: ask I was doing a sit down interview with Steph
Speaker 1: Curry and I asked him, I sit on you know,
Speaker 1: on on off nights. Are you watching other players? Are
Speaker 1: you watching another what do you like? And he says, Now,
Speaker 1: he says, I watched the Golf channel, So I knew.
Speaker 1: I knew he had that addiction. And it seems that
Speaker 1: more and more guys are playing every year. Yeah, I had.
Speaker 1: I had Andrea Goodala on the podcast a few months back,
Speaker 1: and it was before obviously they won the championship, and
Speaker 1: you know they you know, Andre and Steve Kerr and
Speaker 1: and Curry went to Augustin National was kind of their
Speaker 1: their celebration to themselves after they won the first championship.
Speaker 1: And I asked him, I said, what's the what's the
Speaker 1: stop if you guys do it this year? And he
Speaker 1: kind of had about a three second pause and he went, well,
Speaker 1: we're gonna go back to August. Of course, it was
Speaker 1: like a silly question of mine to ask, you know why.
Speaker 1: He was like, why else would we do this? All?
Speaker 1: We change a good thing. Let's just go back to
Speaker 1: where the masters is. Well, I um, the first time
Speaker 1: I played golf with an NBA player was Dan Marley.
Speaker 1: Do you remember Dan Marley? Sure? Yeah, I live in
Speaker 1: Phoenix under Dan was a great player for Phoenix and
Speaker 1: with the Miami Heat, and now he's doing a great
Speaker 1: job and he's coaching Grand Canyon, and he was just
Speaker 1: a tremendous athlete and as in Phoenix on time, he
Speaker 1: he took me out to play and and Dan was just, uh,
Speaker 1: he's so much fun to play with. But he was
Speaker 1: so good, and he taunted and and just was in
Speaker 1: your face and wanted to win. So we went out
Speaker 1: and played, and so he birdie's the first three holes,
Speaker 1: he was that good. And then on the fourth hole,
Speaker 1: I think it was a part four where he hits
Speaker 1: his approach shot over the green and my only solaces
Speaker 1: I'm getting whacked. I'm already down three. Oh is that
Speaker 1: his birdie street comes to an end? So, of course,
Speaker 1: not giving it back to I'm like well, I guess
Speaker 1: you're not going to birdie every hole day and just
Speaker 1: anything to say to him to get him off my back.
Speaker 1: What do you think he does? He chips it in
Speaker 1: from off the green for his fourth birdie in a row.
Speaker 1: He laughed so hard that he could barely finish her around.
Speaker 1: I think he I know he didn't have any more
Speaker 1: birdies after that, but it was such a funny moment
Speaker 1: to him, and it showed me that, you know, he's
Speaker 1: basketball players. Some of them are just tremendous um. They're
Speaker 1: obviously they're hand eye coordination and their athleticism, but he
Speaker 1: was just he was a magnificent player. And I've been
Speaker 1: fortunate to play with a bunch of other guys as well,
Speaker 1: and some of them are just so good and they're
Speaker 1: so addicted to it like we all are. Well, so
Speaker 1: how does that conversation start? So you you approach a
Speaker 1: player and say, hey, do you want to see it
Speaker 1: up to they come up to you and and do it.
Speaker 1: I mean, are you are you weary at times to
Speaker 1: do that or to not do that? Or is it
Speaker 1: just something that's that's a nice way to kind of
Speaker 1: get to know these guys that are on the court
Speaker 1: that you're calling for the entire season. You know what it's, Um,
Speaker 1: I've been doing it long enough where you established relationships
Speaker 1: so you know guys well enough. UM. And certain guys
Speaker 1: that's like just go up, hey, what's your handicap? Or
Speaker 1: tell me the best place you played recently. Um. You know,
Speaker 1: during the season, it's it's rare you get to play
Speaker 1: with with any of them. But it's UM, it is
Speaker 1: it's an easy conversation and you're always looking in my business.
Speaker 1: You know, you want to try and establish a rapport
Speaker 1: in a relationship. And these guys, they're so sick of
Speaker 1: talking about basketball all the time. I mean, for me
Speaker 1: to go up to him ask him, hey, what's up
Speaker 1: with your defense lately? You know, they they have shoot
Speaker 1: arounds in the morning where they talk to the media.
Speaker 1: They have before and after games they talked to the media,
Speaker 1: So they get kind of sick and tired of talking basketball.
Speaker 1: So when they get a chance to talk about anything
Speaker 1: other than basketball, it's like their eyes light up. They
Speaker 1: want to talk. They'll talk to you for twenty minutes,
Speaker 1: whereas if you're asking them basketball questions all the time,
Speaker 1: they're just you know, it's it's like anything, they just
Speaker 1: get get tired of doing the same thing. Well, I'm
Speaker 1: assuming the answer might be DM Marley, But who is
Speaker 1: the best golfer that's an NBA player that you've ever
Speaker 1: played with? Um, Dan's gonna be mad me saying this,
Speaker 1: But but I did get a chance to play with
Speaker 1: with Steph Curry this summer and he is. Um it's
Speaker 1: phenomenal how good he is his length and his short
Speaker 1: game is putting a little bit of everything. Um, he's
Speaker 1: really good. I played with him and his dad and
Speaker 1: his dad del who was who was an excellent player
Speaker 1: as well. Uh in the NBA is so good as
Speaker 1: a golfer as well. And you can see, like if
Speaker 1: I think if if Steph gave up basketball and just
Speaker 1: concentrated on practicing, because he doesn't practice much and he
Speaker 1: doesn't play a heck of a lot either, if he
Speaker 1: got a chance to to really work, to me, there's
Speaker 1: no question he could be a pro. And I don't
Speaker 1: mean that to be insulting to the p G A
Speaker 1: guys who are phenomenal at what they do. And we
Speaker 1: all know there's so many good guys who don't make
Speaker 1: the p G eight Tour and they're they're just a
Speaker 1: just a step those guys. But I think Steph has
Speaker 1: that kind of that kind of talent and ability. Was
Speaker 1: this before or after he played in the Web? Then
Speaker 1: when you played with him, it was after? Okay, did
Speaker 1: did he say he was Did he say he spent
Speaker 1: more time preparing? I mean, you say he doesn't practice
Speaker 1: a lot? Did he spend a lot of time as
Speaker 1: he was getting closer and closer to that to prepare?
Speaker 1: Because him going out and doing what he did in
Speaker 1: those two rounds, I mean he missed the cut, sure,
Speaker 1: but not embarrassing yourself on the golf course and completely
Speaker 1: different atmosphere was extremely impressive to you know, me and
Speaker 1: really everybody in the golf community. What he did. Did
Speaker 1: he say he spent more time preparing? Did he say
Speaker 1: he spent a month or six weeks or something like
Speaker 1: that getting his game? Or you know what he didn't
Speaker 1: He didn't get into that. Um, he just you know,
Speaker 1: he said that he was obviously nervous, but it just, um,
Speaker 1: you know, he has unbelievable respect for professional golfers, and
Speaker 1: he said after doing that, it just you know, the
Speaker 1: respect increased because you see, you know, it's so different.
Speaker 1: I mean, we we all think we can play well
Speaker 1: at our own levels, even on tough, tough courses. But
Speaker 1: then when you go out there and that's setting, when
Speaker 1: the courses are really made up to make it so difficult,
Speaker 1: and and everybody is good, and you have pressure on
Speaker 1: every shot because you know, you know everybody's gonna be
Speaker 1: putting the great scores. I mean, you're you're respectful what
Speaker 1: these guys do weekend and week out. Have to perform,
Speaker 1: have to grind and have to focus. Um, anybody who's
Speaker 1: ever played the game of golf would would just be
Speaker 1: blown away by by the ability to do that every week.
Speaker 1: And uh, I think every coffee should get a chance
Speaker 1: to play in, you know, some kind of tournament like that,
Speaker 1: because it just shows you how great these these professional
Speaker 1: golfers are. Well. I wanted to switch over to NBA
Speaker 1: for a bit. Tuesday night obviously was opening night, and
Speaker 1: I mean, everybody was extremely fired up for the start
Speaker 1: of the season, and then of course the Gordon Hayward
Speaker 1: thing happens. What six minutes into the game. Can you
Speaker 1: remember a more somber start to an NBA season? Considering
Speaker 1: the hype and all the teams changing players moving around.
Speaker 1: Can you can you remember a moment like this happening
Speaker 1: to start off an NBA season. Yeah, you know there's
Speaker 1: unfortunately Shane, over the course of the views I've been
Speaker 1: doing it, there's always seems to be one or two injuries,
Speaker 1: and but this one, for some reason, it's like a
Speaker 1: punch to the gut. I was really sick to my stomach.
Speaker 1: I was so fired up. I was in I had
Speaker 1: an early dinner, so I got act to my hotel
Speaker 1: in Washington, d C. And I was prepared to sit
Speaker 1: there for the next you know, five hours and watch
Speaker 1: NBA basketball. And then when this happened, it was it
Speaker 1: just completely it it throughout your excitement and enthusiasm because
Speaker 1: you just felt for this young man who is one
Speaker 1: of the one of the all time gentlemen that I've
Speaker 1: covered in the NBA, and he was so fired up
Speaker 1: for this season, you know, because it's it's a prominent
Speaker 1: player on a prominent team that had, you know, high expectations.
Speaker 1: People talking about the rivalry now between the Celtics and
Speaker 1: they and they Cavaliers. It just everything in terms of
Speaker 1: the storyline was this was this perfect setup and to
Speaker 1: see it dashed on something like that and such a
Speaker 1: gruesome injury. Um, it really was heartbreaking. You know, it's
Speaker 1: it's it's it's part of the game. And we all
Speaker 1: know that the injuries have the possibility to happen, but
Speaker 1: it doesn't make it any easier when they do. And
Speaker 1: you know, I'm just I'm ran for for good news
Speaker 1: today that that you know, although it's obviously a very
Speaker 1: serious injury, that maybe it was a clean break and
Speaker 1: they're gonna be able to get him back as good
Speaker 1: as new, as as as he was and might take
Speaker 1: some time. Obviously he's going to take some time, but
Speaker 1: it was it was such a punch to the cut.
Speaker 1: If you're calling that game and this happened so early
Speaker 1: in how tough is it for you to transition the
Speaker 1: team back into the actual game on the court, knowing
Speaker 1: that every headline, every storyline following this game, and literally
Speaker 1: all the talk on social media is going to be
Speaker 1: about the Hayward moment and that's it. How tough is
Speaker 1: it to get it back to actually play on the court,
Speaker 1: Because I think you see it in the players faces
Speaker 1: as well, that it's tough to get back into the game. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, Shane, that's a great question, and uh, and
Speaker 1: you have to fight find the right right tone. You know, personally,
Speaker 1: you feel you feel horrible because many instances, you know
Speaker 1: the player and you know people in the organization and
Speaker 1: what this means to them, into the organization and most
Speaker 1: importantly to the player. Um, but you have to put
Speaker 1: that aside. You know, you you can't come right out,
Speaker 1: you know, as soon as he's off the court and
Speaker 1: they wheel him off, you can't come right out and
Speaker 1: and start hooting and hollering about the next play. I mean,
Speaker 1: because you just you feel this, this Paul that has
Speaker 1: come over the entire arena. And I thought I could
Speaker 1: I could feel that last night watching the game, and
Speaker 1: I thought Kevin Harlan, Reggie Miller, the guys who called
Speaker 1: the game last night for T and T, they they
Speaker 1: did such a good job of that. But at the
Speaker 1: same time, you know, there are the other players on
Speaker 1: the court and the game still means a lot. And
Speaker 1: obviously the Celtics new, Okay, yeah, we just lost somebody
Speaker 1: and and this really hurts. But the way they fought
Speaker 1: back and took the lead, so you know, you have
Speaker 1: to get back and be professional and called the game.
Speaker 1: But at the same time it is as you said,
Speaker 1: it's it's still the number one story that came out,
Speaker 1: So you know, you have to go back to it
Speaker 1: and refer to it on occasion because there are people
Speaker 1: who are tuning in who perhaps we're unaware or didn't
Speaker 1: see it or heard about it and now tuning in.
Speaker 1: So you have to balance that, and you know, you
Speaker 1: just try and hope you find the right balance. I thought,
Speaker 1: the guys that did the game last night, uh, we'll
Speaker 1: have the perfect balance, and and and on on to
Speaker 1: kind of piggyback on that. One of the things that
Speaker 1: I've noticed the last few years with these types of
Speaker 1: injuries and in golf, we don't really deal with this.
Speaker 1: You know, normally you're not going to see a guy
Speaker 1: have some awful injury in golf. Maybe they tweaked the risk,
Speaker 1: but something like what happened last night. How much input
Speaker 1: does the booth have? Do do you three guys have
Speaker 1: in replays and showing that, because as you said, you
Speaker 1: want to references and you want to go back to
Speaker 1: the big story that's going to come out of the game.
Speaker 1: But one of the things I've seen with social media
Speaker 1: lately is there's as many people saying, you know, don't
Speaker 1: show the replay. Don't show the replay as there is
Speaker 1: people talking about what just happened. So do you guys
Speaker 1: have input in that, like, hey, let's not show it.
Speaker 1: It's gruesome. Maybe we can do it in the highlight
Speaker 1: show later. Yeah. Again, another good question, Shane. The the
Speaker 1: you know, the produce who are talking to you in
Speaker 1: your ear the whole time. So pretty much every decision
Speaker 1: you make is a team decision, and you talk it over,
Speaker 1: whether it's um playing a sound by putting up a
Speaker 1: graphic or playing a replay like something like that, And
Speaker 1: a lot depends on just the severity of the how
Speaker 1: graphic the injury is. But I I believe that it's
Speaker 1: something you know, it's a story in the game. It's
Speaker 1: a visual medium, and I believe that you do have
Speaker 1: a responsibility to show it. Now. If it's so graphic
Speaker 1: that you have to turn away, then then you make
Speaker 1: the decision not to, or at the very least you
Speaker 1: preface it and say, hey, listen, we don't want to
Speaker 1: overdo this, but we feel it's it's important. It's the
Speaker 1: number one story to the game that we're broadcasting, so
Speaker 1: you people know we're going to show you a video
Speaker 1: right now that can be a little graphic and for
Speaker 1: those who were squeamish might might not want to watch.
Speaker 1: So as long as you presented that way and give
Speaker 1: people the option to turn in a way prior to
Speaker 1: do it. Um, I do think there's a responsibility to
Speaker 1: show it again, you don't overdo it. Um. You know
Speaker 1: you'll play it obviously after the play happens, maybe later
Speaker 1: on at the end when you're doing a summary, or
Speaker 1: for example, they did it at halftime last night and
Speaker 1: Ernie Johnson prefaced it by saying, you know, this is
Speaker 1: pretty gruesome, so you might not for those who don't
Speaker 1: like to look at these things turn away. Um, But
Speaker 1: I think it's it's it's a responsibility to at least
Speaker 1: play it and let people know what happened. Well. I've
Speaker 1: mentioned it a couple of times. I've mentioned social media
Speaker 1: a couple of games. You're not a social media guy.
Speaker 1: Did you ever give it a go? Or you ever like,
Speaker 1: I gotta get into this Twitter thing in in Instagram?
Speaker 1: Or is that just a world that you're not familiar with? Now?
Speaker 1: You know, I'm very much into Twitter, Shane. In fact, um,
Speaker 1: a huge portion of my NBA preparation is on Twitter
Speaker 1: because I follow probably about either writers or broadcasters who
Speaker 1: tweet regular who you know, post their articles online. So
Speaker 1: I'm reading Twitter all the time from my NBA coverage
Speaker 1: and obviously have a Twitter account, but I just don't
Speaker 1: tweet myself. But it's a your ghost resource. Yeah, you're
Speaker 1: you're your sneaky ghost guy. You just kind of you
Speaker 1: kind of look at it from afar, right, Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: the way I mean. I'm I'm an old dinosaur, so
Speaker 1: tweeting is not my thing. But I'm also I'm not
Speaker 1: an idiot, and I realized the value of Twitter in
Speaker 1: terms of coverage and up to dates and and the
Speaker 1: things that you can get off that and quite frankly
Speaker 1: a lot of humor as well. So um, to me,
Speaker 1: it's a real valuable resource. All right, last thing and
Speaker 1: then I'll let you go. I know you've gotta get
Speaker 1: prepped for the game tonight. I'm gonna give you some
Speaker 1: golfers names and I want you to give me the
Speaker 1: current NBA equivalent to them and a short explanation why
Speaker 1: there's only four. So I think I think you'll be
Speaker 1: able to nail it. But off the top, of your head.
Speaker 1: You can go with it. I'm gonna start with Jordan's speed. Um,
Speaker 1: let's go with Let's go with Steph Curry. I think, um,
Speaker 1: you know both just um so good at what they do,
Speaker 1: champions at what they do. And I don't know Jordan's speef,
Speaker 1: but from people I know on the golf tour who
Speaker 1: know him and cover him, seems to be just the
Speaker 1: utmost gentleman and I can tell he was raised the
Speaker 1: right way, treats everybody with kindness and respect. So I'll
Speaker 1: go I'll go with Curry for Jordan's being yea and
Speaker 1: underrated abilities. I feel like they both don't get enough
Speaker 1: credit for their athleticism or their actual ability to, you know,
Speaker 1: be a professional of what they do. I feel like
Speaker 1: Steph is known as the shooter despite being one of
Speaker 1: the best finishers in the NBA, and Jordan is known
Speaker 1: as this great putter despite being one of the best
Speaker 1: ball strikers. So we're one for one in agreement here.
Speaker 1: That was who I and you know. The other thing
Speaker 1: Shane with those two is that neither one of these
Speaker 1: physically imposing people, yet they they excel at what they do.
Speaker 1: And I think that's why people and fans relate to
Speaker 1: both of them because they're not these you know, just
Speaker 1: Olympic type athletes who just overwhelm you with their physical presence.
Speaker 1: And I think that's again, it's part of the charm
Speaker 1: with the fans with those two. That was an easy one.
Speaker 1: So can we leave it at that. Yeah, you, I
Speaker 1: feel like you nailed it up. I will cut out one.
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna give you two more. I'll give you
Speaker 1: Rory McElroy. Oh man, um here here, I'll give you
Speaker 1: my my thoughts of Rory McElroy again. Um A, just
Speaker 1: a great talent. I'm trying to think an NBA game
Speaker 1: like like this whom who has a really good sense
Speaker 1: of humor and let's do you see it once in
Speaker 1: a while with his dealings with the media and TV,
Speaker 1: but still can be a little guarded. Doesn't that doesn't
Speaker 1: that kind of scream Durant. I mean, I feel like
Speaker 1: they're very I feel like they're both crazy, athletically engineered
Speaker 1: for their sport. And and you know that the Durant
Speaker 1: Bill Simmons thing over the last eight months has kind
Speaker 1: of showed a different side of him, at least in
Speaker 1: my opinion, where he's funny, and you know, he messes
Speaker 1: with people on social media and all that stuff. I
Speaker 1: just feel like, I feel like that seems like that
Speaker 1: kind of matches up, you know what. I like that
Speaker 1: a lot because he is I've got to know Durant
Speaker 1: open from covering all these years. Um, and he is, uh,
Speaker 1: he does have a fun personality that he is finally
Speaker 1: letting a show a little bit because he was kind
Speaker 1: of reserved. But still, you know, still because of the
Speaker 1: media coverage is so intense, there's a there's there tends
Speaker 1: to be a there's still a caution there sometimes. So
Speaker 1: all right, I'm gonna I'm gonna let you. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go along with you on that one. All right,
Speaker 1: last one, here's my favorite one. I'm gonna ask you
Speaker 1: Phil Mickelson, who is the NBA equivalent right now? To
Speaker 1: Phil Mickelson, I would have researched this. I needed time
Speaker 1: to go and to go through this. Tim Duncan retired. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, that's that's a good one. Um. Everybody loves them,
Speaker 1: you know, like um, in terms of the fans, he's
Speaker 1: so good with the fans. So let me think the
Speaker 1: problem is that there's not really you know, there's not
Speaker 1: really that eighteen year old veteran. I mean, Paul Pierce.
Speaker 1: You know, you're you're trying to think of this guy
Speaker 1: that's been around for so long, and it's pretty lovable,
Speaker 1: and you know, the NBA just doesn't give you those
Speaker 1: guys out there for twenty years or so. Um, well,
Speaker 1: Dwayne Wade has been around a long time. He's always
Speaker 1: great with fans. The media loves him, as teammates love him. Um,
Speaker 1: I mean he could be one. I know that that
Speaker 1: might not be the perfect fit, plays all out. I
Speaker 1: liked that. I actually I'm kind of been on it.
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, I mean, you know, never let
Speaker 1: a ball go to bounce market days through and probably
Speaker 1: he's waves a champion, not afraid to take chances. And
Speaker 1: I'm getting you know what, prior to the next time
Speaker 1: we talk, I'm gonna come up with perfect ones because
Speaker 1: I actually kind of like this. I'm just not any
Speaker 1: good at it. You're gonna get in on it, Wolf, Mike.
Speaker 1: I appreciate the time Sixers Wizards tonight seven pm Eastern.
Speaker 1: And then do you have a game over the weekend
Speaker 1: as well? Uh, you haven't got a game Friday of
Speaker 1: the Cavaliers and the Bucks in Milwaukee, and then I
Speaker 1: have Nixon the Pistons Saturday. So full slate this week. See,
Speaker 1: you don't get any rest. It's it's gonna get it's
Speaker 1: full slate coming on after this. You get you do
Speaker 1: you do? You get one game a week? Do you
Speaker 1: normally get two games a week? Oh? No, because I
Speaker 1: still besides ESPN, I do, I do the Nick telecast
Speaker 1: on MSG, so I'm doing at least four games. You
Speaker 1: do four games? Goodn't? It's gracious. See you're just you
Speaker 1: don't have time. You don't have time to tweet. You've
Speaker 1: got just time to brother. That's why the clubs are
Speaker 1: in the basement. Shame say that's why you're not playing golf. Well,
Speaker 1: I appreciate the time. We'll catch up maybe around the
Speaker 1: finals as well, if you've got some time, and hopefully
Speaker 1: if you do any Sons game, we can see it up.
Speaker 1: I'd love to. And yeah, we definitely have to go
Speaker 1: out and play again. After trying to challenge Beth Page
Speaker 1: Black that time. Thanks Mike, see you, Shane, it looks
Speaker 1: like I'm a wreck. Many thanks to Mike. I know
Speaker 1: he's got a very very busy. As you heard at
Speaker 1: the end, he has got a very busy schedule upcoming,
Speaker 1: and of course a busy now five six seven months
Speaker 1: with the NBA getting going. So I appreciate him taking
Speaker 1: some time to chat. Hopefully we can get him back
Speaker 1: sometime around NBA Finals, just chat a little bit about that,
Speaker 1: plus to see what golf course he has checked off
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Speaker 1: when he gets there. So thanks to Mike, Thanks to
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