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It's 39 00:02:00,960 --> 00:02:06,480 Speaker 1: on to Belgium that squeezed past Senegal did not look impressive. 40 00:02:07,240 --> 00:02:10,760 Speaker 1: So Seattle, and in my opinion, the best soccer city 41 00:02:10,800 --> 00:02:17,320 Speaker 1: in North America. The crowd will be absolutely insane. And 42 00:02:18,040 --> 00:02:20,240 Speaker 1: let's just talk about the red card. Let's just get 43 00:02:20,320 --> 00:02:24,080 Speaker 1: right to it. I think it's an egregiously bad call. 44 00:02:25,240 --> 00:02:29,000 Speaker 1: It can go Baligan's red card, which is you're going 45 00:02:29,080 --> 00:02:32,040 Speaker 1: to play a man down, you're suspended for the next game. Now, 46 00:02:32,200 --> 00:02:34,639 Speaker 1: now I will say this, here's the good news. Ricardo 47 00:02:34,680 --> 00:02:40,080 Speaker 1: Pepe is a capable score. He scored sixteen goals in 48 00:02:40,120 --> 00:02:42,080 Speaker 1: the Dutch League. I think they won the Dutch League. 49 00:02:42,160 --> 00:02:46,680 Speaker 1: He is more than capable to fill in. But it 50 00:02:46,800 --> 00:02:49,280 Speaker 1: felt like to me the referees for about a five 51 00:02:49,600 --> 00:02:55,079 Speaker 1: minute space got overwhelmed. They knew they had made a mistake. 52 00:02:56,800 --> 00:03:00,360 Speaker 1: You know, replace systems var replay systems aren't perfect either, 53 00:03:01,120 --> 00:03:08,760 Speaker 1: and it was clearly incidental time and stage World Cup accident. 54 00:03:09,200 --> 00:03:11,640 Speaker 1: I don't know how you could watch that and think 55 00:03:11,680 --> 00:03:14,680 Speaker 1: it was intentional. I mean, part of the red card 56 00:03:15,240 --> 00:03:18,880 Speaker 1: is the intention of the physicality of the foul. That 57 00:03:19,520 --> 00:03:23,120 Speaker 1: really is the difference between yellow and a red card, 58 00:03:23,160 --> 00:03:26,200 Speaker 1: not just the severity of it. Is it intentional? That 59 00:03:26,320 --> 00:03:31,160 Speaker 1: was clearly unintentional. If Ballygan tried to put his hit 60 00:03:31,240 --> 00:03:34,040 Speaker 1: him in the heel, twist his ankle, if he tried 61 00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:36,560 Speaker 1: that one hundred times, he couldn't have done it. So 62 00:03:37,040 --> 00:03:40,240 Speaker 1: it's just a really bad call. Ricardo Pepe is a 63 00:03:40,280 --> 00:03:46,120 Speaker 1: substantial capable fill in. That's the good news. Poolisic was 64 00:03:46,160 --> 00:03:51,440 Speaker 1: a problem for Bosnia and Herzegovina. Clearly, there were just 65 00:03:51,760 --> 00:03:55,160 Speaker 1: there were so many opportunities. Off sides is off sides. 66 00:03:55,200 --> 00:03:57,640 Speaker 1: Like in both instances, it was the correct call. Don't 67 00:03:57,640 --> 00:04:01,600 Speaker 1: complain about it. You sound like you don't jump into 68 00:04:01,600 --> 00:04:04,480 Speaker 1: this sport and listen. I think it's a little ambiguous, 69 00:04:04,960 --> 00:04:06,960 Speaker 1: you know, stoppage time. It's a little fuzzy to me, 70 00:04:07,000 --> 00:04:10,320 Speaker 1: a little gray for my American sports kind of brain. 71 00:04:11,360 --> 00:04:14,760 Speaker 1: But offsides is off sides, you know. I just I 72 00:04:14,800 --> 00:04:17,000 Speaker 1: look at this and the fact that we can be 73 00:04:17,040 --> 00:04:22,320 Speaker 1: a man down and Malik Tillman that has to be 74 00:04:23,160 --> 00:04:25,920 Speaker 1: I sat there and I thought of all the goals 75 00:04:26,760 --> 00:04:31,200 Speaker 1: in the United States men's national team history, Think of 76 00:04:31,240 --> 00:04:34,320 Speaker 1: the corner kicks, think of the free kicks. Is that 77 00:04:34,400 --> 00:04:37,080 Speaker 1: the greatest free kick goal for US ever? I mean 78 00:04:37,120 --> 00:04:40,599 Speaker 1: that literally is something if you put on a Messy 79 00:04:40,720 --> 00:04:45,200 Speaker 1: jersey or a Ronaldo jersey. That's the kind of kick 80 00:04:45,200 --> 00:04:47,840 Speaker 1: you show in a highlight reel. That is an all 81 00:04:47,960 --> 00:04:53,640 Speaker 1: time goal, literally perfectly struck. You could not strike that 82 00:04:53,800 --> 00:04:57,760 Speaker 1: anymore perfectly. I was so negative going into that free kick. 83 00:04:57,800 --> 00:04:59,920 Speaker 1: I'm like, listen, it would be ideal, it would be death. 84 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:03,200 Speaker 1: And I'm looking for all the angles on this and 85 00:05:03,960 --> 00:05:06,240 Speaker 1: that was the one I didn't think you could you 86 00:05:06,279 --> 00:05:09,800 Speaker 1: could make to go over the wall of Bosnia and score. 87 00:05:10,360 --> 00:05:13,400 Speaker 1: It's just it's remarkable to me how deep we are, 88 00:05:13,480 --> 00:05:16,000 Speaker 1: how skilled. We are clearly the superior club here. I 89 00:05:16,000 --> 00:05:19,280 Speaker 1: don't think anybody doubts that. But to score a man 90 00:05:19,360 --> 00:05:23,479 Speaker 1: down and that man's balligan is something else. It's just 91 00:05:23,560 --> 00:05:26,440 Speaker 1: something else. How well the team adjusted it, because I 92 00:05:26,440 --> 00:05:27,479 Speaker 1: think you watched it. 93 00:05:27,520 --> 00:05:28,000 Speaker 2: I watched it. 94 00:05:28,040 --> 00:05:31,120 Speaker 1: I think there was about when that happened, you're thinking, okay, 95 00:05:31,320 --> 00:05:33,160 Speaker 1: how does Pochattino react. 96 00:05:33,600 --> 00:05:35,320 Speaker 2: I felt we we lost our legs. 97 00:05:35,320 --> 00:05:37,600 Speaker 1: For about a minute, you're kind of trying to figure out, 98 00:05:37,640 --> 00:05:39,839 Speaker 1: all right, what do we do. We're waiting for a 99 00:05:39,880 --> 00:05:43,359 Speaker 1: signal we do we remain aggressive And there was a 100 00:05:43,360 --> 00:05:46,479 Speaker 1: couple of minutes there after that really bad red card 101 00:05:46,839 --> 00:05:49,200 Speaker 1: that you're thinking, Okay, we're bailing water a little bit. 102 00:05:49,320 --> 00:05:52,440 Speaker 1: We got to get our legs here. We're not quite 103 00:05:52,880 --> 00:05:54,640 Speaker 1: We got to figure out what we're doing here. That 104 00:05:54,800 --> 00:05:58,359 Speaker 1: is real coaching, real time. That's really impressive to me. 105 00:05:58,400 --> 00:06:00,880 Speaker 1: And again, we couldn't do it with this team four 106 00:06:00,920 --> 00:06:04,000 Speaker 1: years ago. We're just too young. It's all the friendlies, 107 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:07,440 Speaker 1: it's all that experience, it's all that European play. A 108 00:06:07,480 --> 00:06:09,640 Speaker 1: real crisis on your hands, and I thought they just 109 00:06:09,680 --> 00:06:14,360 Speaker 1: handled it brilliantly. I just sometimes this team continues to 110 00:06:14,400 --> 00:06:18,000 Speaker 1: surprise me. It just and I went into this World 111 00:06:18,080 --> 00:06:22,480 Speaker 1: Cup incredibly optimistic. I was always kind of conservative. Can 112 00:06:22,520 --> 00:06:24,880 Speaker 1: we will win the group stage or get it through 113 00:06:24,880 --> 00:06:27,000 Speaker 1: it knockout stage? 114 00:06:27,279 --> 00:06:29,360 Speaker 2: Can we get a win? We looked. 115 00:06:29,440 --> 00:06:34,280 Speaker 1: I watched Belgium today, scored two goals late, eventually scored 116 00:06:34,320 --> 00:06:36,640 Speaker 1: extra time. I looked at Belgium and I thought, I 117 00:06:36,640 --> 00:06:38,919 Speaker 1: think we win with Peppe. I really do. But it 118 00:06:38,960 --> 00:06:41,240 Speaker 1: was an egregiously bad call. I mean, it was just 119 00:06:41,279 --> 00:06:46,000 Speaker 1: an unintentional foul. And again I felt the referees for 120 00:06:46,120 --> 00:06:48,840 Speaker 1: a space there kind of lost their way. They were 121 00:06:48,839 --> 00:06:51,599 Speaker 1: a little overwhelmed by it. Even the facial expressions, the 122 00:06:51,600 --> 00:06:54,719 Speaker 1: body language, of the refs didn't feel right. They knew 123 00:06:54,720 --> 00:06:57,840 Speaker 1: they were. They were kind of losing control, and that 124 00:06:57,880 --> 00:07:02,320 Speaker 1: crowd let them have it. But I mean, overall, to 125 00:07:02,400 --> 00:07:06,279 Speaker 1: score a man down and to eat up the clock 126 00:07:06,360 --> 00:07:12,280 Speaker 1: that last ten minutes, that's not easy. That is not 127 00:07:12,480 --> 00:07:16,320 Speaker 1: easy to do. So I thought the Burrhalter has been 128 00:07:16,440 --> 00:07:21,800 Speaker 1: just a terrific, terrific sub in a couple of different 129 00:07:21,800 --> 00:07:26,320 Speaker 1: spots in the World Cup. I'm out of words after this. 130 00:07:27,520 --> 00:07:30,000 Speaker 1: I just thought that was as impressive. I mean, it 131 00:07:30,040 --> 00:07:33,720 Speaker 1: was a real crisis. It was a real crisis. I 132 00:07:33,760 --> 00:07:35,960 Speaker 1: was watching it and I'm thinking, I have to go 133 00:07:36,000 --> 00:07:38,280 Speaker 1: on the air tomorrow. Am I going to spend an 134 00:07:38,320 --> 00:07:42,920 Speaker 1: hour complaining about a red card that won't be entertaining 135 00:07:42,920 --> 00:07:49,440 Speaker 1: for anybody? And yet free kick Malik Tillman absolutely beautiful. Wow, 136 00:07:49,840 --> 00:07:51,680 Speaker 1: Ricardo Pepe, You're up? 137 00:07:52,600 --> 00:07:52,960 Speaker 2: Okay? 138 00:07:53,040 --> 00:07:55,880 Speaker 1: I want to spend a couple of minutes on Jalen Brown. 139 00:07:56,160 --> 00:07:59,600 Speaker 1: I have a theory on this. Jalen Brown traded for 140 00:07:59,720 --> 00:08:04,240 Speaker 1: Paul George and Celtics get some draft picks, a couple 141 00:08:04,280 --> 00:08:08,239 Speaker 1: of first round picks. So listen, Brad Stevens is getting crushed. 142 00:08:08,320 --> 00:08:12,400 Speaker 1: The GM they obviously wanted Jalen Brown out of the building. 143 00:08:12,920 --> 00:08:16,920 Speaker 1: Jalen Brown. I had two NBA sources tonight. Two people 144 00:08:16,920 --> 00:08:20,360 Speaker 1: in the league weren't an executive. One a scout say 145 00:08:20,360 --> 00:08:23,000 Speaker 1: that Jalen Brown has it's a disease. 146 00:08:23,440 --> 00:08:24,760 Speaker 2: He suddenly thinks he's. 147 00:08:24,640 --> 00:08:27,080 Speaker 1: The smartest guy in every room he's in. I've worked 148 00:08:27,080 --> 00:08:29,600 Speaker 1: with people in the media. It's really you get into 149 00:08:29,600 --> 00:08:31,280 Speaker 1: a really bad space. You make a lot of money, 150 00:08:31,320 --> 00:08:33,839 Speaker 1: suddenly you're absolutely sure. You don't want to listen to 151 00:08:33,880 --> 00:08:35,880 Speaker 1: your bosses, you don't want to listen to consultants, you 152 00:08:35,920 --> 00:08:39,079 Speaker 1: don't want to listen to teammates. Jalen's kind of and 153 00:08:39,520 --> 00:08:42,480 Speaker 1: by the way, this was one executive told me this 154 00:08:42,640 --> 00:08:45,320 Speaker 1: was always a little bit of Jalen Brown's personality, kind 155 00:08:45,360 --> 00:08:48,640 Speaker 1: of the smartest guy in the room and live streaming 156 00:08:48,720 --> 00:08:50,280 Speaker 1: and throwing it out there. 157 00:08:50,400 --> 00:08:51,720 Speaker 2: And that's just not a good space. 158 00:08:51,840 --> 00:08:54,280 Speaker 1: It used to be nothing good happens after three in 159 00:08:54,320 --> 00:08:56,679 Speaker 1: the morning, nothing goods When nothing good happens when pro 160 00:08:56,720 --> 00:08:58,440 Speaker 1: athletes live stream, it's just trouble. 161 00:08:58,640 --> 00:08:59,400 Speaker 2: Stay away from it. 162 00:09:00,120 --> 00:09:03,840 Speaker 1: You need pr people even you know what I do. 163 00:09:04,160 --> 00:09:07,200 Speaker 1: When you're emotional, when you're in a terrible mood, don't 164 00:09:07,200 --> 00:09:09,800 Speaker 1: go to live streaming. Don't just riff, it's just trouble, 165 00:09:11,040 --> 00:09:13,040 Speaker 1: and they wanted to get him out. But here's my 166 00:09:13,160 --> 00:09:16,440 Speaker 1: theory on it. Brad Stevens looks at the league and 167 00:09:16,480 --> 00:09:19,400 Speaker 1: he looks at Denver and Milwaukee, and they got a 168 00:09:19,440 --> 00:09:22,600 Speaker 1: title and they cling to their team and the new 169 00:09:22,640 --> 00:09:26,679 Speaker 1: CBA doesn't allow it. He wanted to get out of 170 00:09:26,679 --> 00:09:29,000 Speaker 1: that Jalen Brown contract, and you looked at it and 171 00:09:29,000 --> 00:09:32,000 Speaker 1: he thought, Okay, we got our title. Denver got their title. 172 00:09:32,360 --> 00:09:35,360 Speaker 1: O case, he got their title, Milwaukee got their title. 173 00:09:36,280 --> 00:09:40,120 Speaker 1: Don't do Milwaukee. Don't do Denver cling to your guys. 174 00:09:40,520 --> 00:09:42,200 Speaker 1: And then you look up a couple of years later 175 00:09:43,360 --> 00:09:47,040 Speaker 1: and you're trapped or you're too old, but you don't 176 00:09:47,040 --> 00:09:50,000 Speaker 1: have the assets. And he's like, I've got an asset. 177 00:09:50,240 --> 00:09:53,800 Speaker 1: Now's the time. Now's the time. Jalen Brown comes off 178 00:09:53,840 --> 00:09:57,760 Speaker 1: a great year, twenty nine points a game, plays defense. 179 00:09:58,040 --> 00:10:01,160 Speaker 1: Maybe the analytic Mavens don't like him, but we got 180 00:10:01,160 --> 00:10:03,600 Speaker 1: our title. Now it's time to pivot to the second 181 00:10:03,640 --> 00:10:09,040 Speaker 1: iteration and pursue the next one. And I mean Mitchell Robinson. 182 00:10:09,080 --> 00:10:11,280 Speaker 1: I think he hurts the Knicks more than he helps 183 00:10:11,280 --> 00:10:16,199 Speaker 1: the Celtics. But Mitchell Robinson, Peyton Pritchard, Jason Tatum, Paul George, 184 00:10:17,600 --> 00:10:18,959 Speaker 1: you know, Derek White. 185 00:10:20,120 --> 00:10:20,480 Speaker 2: You know it's a. 186 00:10:20,480 --> 00:10:23,520 Speaker 1: Playoff team in the East. Who knows stay healthy, But 187 00:10:24,600 --> 00:10:26,560 Speaker 1: you know the chemistry is probably going to be better. 188 00:10:27,520 --> 00:10:30,679 Speaker 1: Paul George, his contract runs out sooner, you'll probably be 189 00:10:30,720 --> 00:10:32,560 Speaker 1: able to get rid of him, maybe in a year. 190 00:10:34,280 --> 00:10:37,280 Speaker 1: But I feel like, obviously Brown's better than Paul George 191 00:10:37,320 --> 00:10:41,600 Speaker 1: at this point. Paul George has durability issues. But the 192 00:10:41,679 --> 00:10:45,240 Speaker 1: reality is what Brad Stevens is doing is saying, I'm 193 00:10:45,320 --> 00:10:49,040 Speaker 1: not going to be the new NBA. The minute you win, 194 00:10:49,120 --> 00:10:49,520 Speaker 1: you lose. 195 00:10:49,559 --> 00:10:49,880 Speaker 2: People. 196 00:10:50,440 --> 00:10:53,880 Speaker 1: Don't cling and hang on to two guys Tatum and Brown. 197 00:10:53,920 --> 00:10:58,480 Speaker 1: That eats seventy percent of your cap Pigs fed hogslaughter, 198 00:10:58,600 --> 00:11:01,880 Speaker 1: don't get greedy. Denver got a little greedy. All of 199 00:11:01,920 --> 00:11:05,520 Speaker 1: a sudden, looked up and thought, Murray's getting old, Gordon's 200 00:11:05,520 --> 00:11:09,840 Speaker 1: getting hurt, Yokic getting beat up. Oh, we're in This 201 00:11:09,920 --> 00:11:12,480 Speaker 1: is what Milwaukee did three years for you. Middleton gets 202 00:11:12,520 --> 00:11:14,920 Speaker 1: injured again. Let's take a big swing on Dame. We 203 00:11:15,040 --> 00:11:18,080 Speaker 1: let go at Drew Holliday. Everybody's getting old. You look 204 00:11:18,160 --> 00:11:20,800 Speaker 1: up and you're like, we don't have any assets, and 205 00:11:20,800 --> 00:11:23,640 Speaker 1: Brad Stevens says, I got two assets. I'm going to 206 00:11:23,720 --> 00:11:29,679 Speaker 1: keep lower maintenance, more skilled, more team guy, easier. 207 00:11:29,320 --> 00:11:30,400 Speaker 2: To deal with. 208 00:11:30,600 --> 00:11:34,520 Speaker 1: Jason Tatum over Brown, both massive contracts. I've got an 209 00:11:34,559 --> 00:11:36,080 Speaker 1: asset still in his prime. 210 00:11:36,400 --> 00:11:38,480 Speaker 2: Now we're going to move it. Now, you'd hope you 211 00:11:38,559 --> 00:11:39,000 Speaker 2: get more. 212 00:11:40,120 --> 00:11:42,959 Speaker 1: Yeah. I said this today on FS one and iHeartRadio. 213 00:11:43,000 --> 00:11:47,120 Speaker 1: I said, Brown's become kind of the grumbler. And I'm 214 00:11:47,120 --> 00:11:48,840 Speaker 1: not one of these shut up and dribble people. If 215 00:11:48,880 --> 00:11:51,600 Speaker 1: my athletes have opinions, it doesn't bother me. But you know, 216 00:11:51,760 --> 00:11:54,760 Speaker 1: Nike collusion at the Olympics. This is the best year 217 00:11:54,760 --> 00:11:58,840 Speaker 1: I've ever had live streaming. It's just if you can't 218 00:11:58,840 --> 00:12:01,520 Speaker 1: be happy in Boston getting sixt Eastern Conference Finals and 219 00:12:01,559 --> 00:12:04,600 Speaker 1: playing Steph Curry and Jason Tatum may be the easiest 220 00:12:04,600 --> 00:12:06,960 Speaker 1: stars in the league to play with. They share the ball, 221 00:12:07,000 --> 00:12:09,600 Speaker 1: they're nice guys. I mean, I'd argue Tatum is not 222 00:12:09,640 --> 00:12:14,280 Speaker 1: aggressive enough. So if you're not happy in Boston, great GM, 223 00:12:14,400 --> 00:12:19,400 Speaker 1: good coach. Tatum's a guy, nice guy, like legitimately great 224 00:12:19,440 --> 00:12:21,839 Speaker 1: star player who's an easy guy to get along with. 225 00:12:22,160 --> 00:12:24,680 Speaker 1: He's not calculated, he's not difficult, he's. 226 00:12:24,559 --> 00:12:28,680 Speaker 2: Not a ballhog. I mean, and you're not happy. It's 227 00:12:28,720 --> 00:12:29,840 Speaker 2: just constant grumbling. 228 00:12:30,280 --> 00:12:32,440 Speaker 1: And I'm not anti opinion, but it feels like it's 229 00:12:32,440 --> 00:12:35,360 Speaker 1: become him smartest guy in the room. As two people 230 00:12:35,400 --> 00:12:37,480 Speaker 1: in the NBA one told me tonight, two people I 231 00:12:37,520 --> 00:12:40,319 Speaker 1: talked to that they didn't like the deal. But when 232 00:12:40,320 --> 00:12:43,120 Speaker 1: I told them my theory on it, which is we 233 00:12:43,240 --> 00:12:46,080 Speaker 1: got one next iteration, let's move on Brown still a 234 00:12:46,080 --> 00:12:48,959 Speaker 1: premium asset. Go. Now, what you're saying is, well, that's 235 00:12:48,960 --> 00:12:50,960 Speaker 1: all you got for him. They got a lot of picks. 236 00:12:53,120 --> 00:12:55,839 Speaker 1: You know, they got a lot of picks. Do they 237 00:12:55,840 --> 00:12:58,920 Speaker 1: move Paul George in a year or two easier contract 238 00:12:59,000 --> 00:12:59,360 Speaker 1: to move? 239 00:13:00,000 --> 00:13:00,600 Speaker 2: What's a nice guy? 240 00:13:00,640 --> 00:13:03,199 Speaker 1: Paul's town? I mean, don't don't kid yourself. If you 241 00:13:03,280 --> 00:13:06,240 Speaker 1: go to the playoffs, Paul George's pretty good. Paul George 242 00:13:06,320 --> 00:13:08,640 Speaker 1: was pretty good. You didn't get a bump here Paul 243 00:13:08,679 --> 00:13:12,880 Speaker 1: George in those playoffs. It was pretty good. Go look 244 00:13:12,880 --> 00:13:15,360 Speaker 1: at the numbers, go to YouTube, look at the games. 245 00:13:15,360 --> 00:13:18,280 Speaker 1: Paul was exceptional. You're not getting a stiff. Can he 246 00:13:18,320 --> 00:13:23,559 Speaker 1: stay healthy? That's the question. So I can't believe we 247 00:13:23,600 --> 00:13:26,800 Speaker 1: scored in a free kick? Just what a What a 248 00:13:26,880 --> 00:13:29,920 Speaker 1: gritty win for the United States. And now we got 249 00:13:29,960 --> 00:13:34,040 Speaker 1: to go to Seattle appeal the red card. If not 250 00:13:34,160 --> 00:13:36,199 Speaker 1: Ricardo Pepe, you feel good about that? 251 00:13:36,920 --> 00:13:40,760 Speaker 2: Boy. Polisic is magical, is he not? Weston McKinney. 252 00:13:41,440 --> 00:13:46,400 Speaker 1: The depth in the midfield, the creativity with our attackers. Burrholter, 253 00:13:46,720 --> 00:13:56,160 Speaker 1: what a gem he's been. So there was a massive 254 00:13:56,200 --> 00:13:58,120 Speaker 1: move this week in the NBA just happened to be 255 00:13:58,120 --> 00:14:02,640 Speaker 1: in Miami, which is I'm a believer in it. Although 256 00:14:02,640 --> 00:14:04,640 Speaker 1: I think they're old. They need a play creator, a 257 00:14:04,640 --> 00:14:07,360 Speaker 1: shot creator. Wig is Now I get it. This is 258 00:14:07,400 --> 00:14:09,800 Speaker 1: why you're so hot. You you knew we had this 259 00:14:09,880 --> 00:14:10,559 Speaker 1: event coming. 260 00:14:10,960 --> 00:14:13,000 Speaker 2: I didn't. You're like, oh, I'm gonna get Nick on 261 00:14:13,040 --> 00:14:15,280 Speaker 2: the record that he thinks this is You're making me. 262 00:14:15,280 --> 00:14:18,440 Speaker 1: Sound as calculated as Lebron that Nick thinks this is 263 00:14:18,440 --> 00:14:19,040 Speaker 1: a bad trade. 264 00:14:19,040 --> 00:14:20,680 Speaker 2: Welly, Colin Goward, I think it's a good trade. And 265 00:14:20,720 --> 00:14:23,760 Speaker 2: then we're gonna do a live show in Miami where 266 00:14:23,800 --> 00:14:25,160 Speaker 2: he has to defend it. Go ahead. 267 00:14:25,200 --> 00:14:27,880 Speaker 1: Sorry, Well, first of all, I think Bam and Janna 268 00:14:27,920 --> 00:14:29,800 Speaker 1: start the second and third best defensive bigs in the 269 00:14:29,840 --> 00:14:31,720 Speaker 1: league after Wimby. So I think and I do think 270 00:14:31,760 --> 00:14:34,440 Speaker 1: in the Eastern Conference, you can be completely flawed. Detroit 271 00:14:34,480 --> 00:14:37,960 Speaker 1: had no number two score Tobias Harris Durham. It's like 272 00:14:38,440 --> 00:14:40,160 Speaker 1: in the regular season in the East, you go in 273 00:14:40,200 --> 00:14:41,960 Speaker 1: a lot of games, there's a lot of bad in 274 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:44,600 Speaker 1: the middle of bottom. There isn't in the West. But 275 00:14:44,680 --> 00:14:47,400 Speaker 1: what's interesting is the story this week where Mario Chalmers, 276 00:14:47,440 --> 00:14:51,240 Speaker 1: who was always really drove Lebron crazy when they were here. Sure, 277 00:14:51,320 --> 00:14:54,040 Speaker 1: I came and watched a couple of Heatles games and 278 00:14:54,120 --> 00:14:58,760 Speaker 1: Lebron and Mario Chalmers would argue incessantly during time out 279 00:14:58,760 --> 00:14:59,960 Speaker 1: to it was such a story. 280 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:02,640 Speaker 2: When they won the title, President Obama made fun of 281 00:15:02,720 --> 00:15:05,760 Speaker 2: them about it. They're like, you blame Mario for everything, Like, yeah, 282 00:15:05,800 --> 00:15:07,520 Speaker 2: that was definitely a thing, but what did he said? 283 00:15:07,680 --> 00:15:11,840 Speaker 1: So basically, Mario said, if you went to Lebron and said, 284 00:15:12,280 --> 00:15:16,200 Speaker 1: well we need bench in athleticism, we'll take Bronni and 285 00:15:16,320 --> 00:15:19,680 Speaker 1: Lebron would be the play initiator, not share the ball 286 00:15:19,720 --> 00:15:22,600 Speaker 1: and have to pretend he's not Austin Reeves, which is 287 00:15:22,680 --> 00:15:25,120 Speaker 1: kind of an insult but understandable at his age. But 288 00:15:25,160 --> 00:15:28,080 Speaker 1: in Los Angeles, Lebron has to pretend. 289 00:15:28,280 --> 00:15:29,080 Speaker 2: He's not better than this. 290 00:15:29,240 --> 00:15:32,400 Speaker 1: It's the third option, Miami goes, yeah, we have size, 291 00:15:32,440 --> 00:15:33,640 Speaker 1: we have no play initiators. 292 00:15:33,680 --> 00:15:35,760 Speaker 2: You've never liked to be around the basket defensively. 293 00:15:35,800 --> 00:15:38,120 Speaker 1: You want to beat the fast breakout at the free 294 00:15:38,160 --> 00:15:39,000 Speaker 1: throw on extended. 295 00:15:39,600 --> 00:15:42,080 Speaker 2: We'll take Bronny, which by the way, he will. 296 00:15:41,880 --> 00:15:45,480 Speaker 1: Play in Miami, and I'm lebron and I'm like, thirteen 297 00:15:45,480 --> 00:15:50,000 Speaker 1: percent state tax to zero my son plays could start 298 00:15:50,680 --> 00:15:53,440 Speaker 1: with if Mitchell has any injury. I mean, they really 299 00:15:53,480 --> 00:15:57,240 Speaker 1: don't have a point guard of note. I mean, sure no. 300 00:15:57,320 --> 00:16:00,480 Speaker 1: I So my take is, and i'd I don't think 301 00:16:00,520 --> 00:16:03,000 Speaker 1: I think the Lakers what they want to do. I 302 00:16:03,000 --> 00:16:05,400 Speaker 1: think they're negotiating for Walker Kessler. They're just kind of 303 00:16:05,400 --> 00:16:07,200 Speaker 1: get the number to be thirty three and not thirty 304 00:16:07,200 --> 00:16:08,920 Speaker 1: eight because it traps them going forward. 305 00:16:08,960 --> 00:16:10,160 Speaker 2: Although I like Walker Kesler. 306 00:16:10,480 --> 00:16:12,840 Speaker 1: But my take is then they go to Lebron and go, listen, 307 00:16:12,880 --> 00:16:15,400 Speaker 1: we want you back, and there's no room. You got 308 00:16:15,400 --> 00:16:18,240 Speaker 1: to take fifteen. What they don't what they don't want 309 00:16:18,240 --> 00:16:20,800 Speaker 1: to do is have Rich Paul dictate terms because they 310 00:16:20,800 --> 00:16:22,360 Speaker 1: do need a big there. I mean, if you look 311 00:16:22,400 --> 00:16:28,880 Speaker 1: at now Oklahoma City is going to do Hartenstein Chet. 312 00:16:27,120 --> 00:16:30,400 Speaker 2: And and Ma Mara. Yeah, they drafted three. 313 00:16:30,800 --> 00:16:34,200 Speaker 1: Yes, so it's like, sorry, guys, you have to have 314 00:16:34,280 --> 00:16:36,760 Speaker 1: a big and Luca wants It's just the way the 315 00:16:36,800 --> 00:16:40,000 Speaker 1: Western Conference works. So and now you have Bam and 316 00:16:40,040 --> 00:16:43,280 Speaker 1: Giannis over in the East. So my take is Lebron 317 00:16:43,320 --> 00:16:47,480 Speaker 1: in Miami. You say, well left on bad terms, Dan 318 00:16:47,560 --> 00:16:51,200 Speaker 1: Gilbert and Lebron let it was torched, correct, it was 319 00:16:51,320 --> 00:16:53,560 Speaker 1: inconceivable that they could come back. 320 00:16:53,840 --> 00:16:57,960 Speaker 2: So if you are asking me, would my feelings about 321 00:16:58,000 --> 00:17:01,040 Speaker 2: the Heat's ability to contend this year if they added 322 00:17:01,120 --> 00:17:05,199 Speaker 2: Lebron James, Yes, they would. What do I want that 323 00:17:05,359 --> 00:17:10,800 Speaker 2: to happen? Absolutely? So here's I'm not sure how much 324 00:17:11,560 --> 00:17:15,359 Speaker 2: Lebron's family loved Miami. I don't know if that is 325 00:17:15,880 --> 00:17:19,200 Speaker 2: you know, it's not like returning to Cleveland, where you're from. 326 00:17:19,680 --> 00:17:22,520 Speaker 2: It also is if his daughter doesn't, you know, if 327 00:17:22,920 --> 00:17:25,280 Speaker 2: it seems like it's just a one year thing and 328 00:17:25,320 --> 00:17:27,560 Speaker 2: his family's going to stay in LA That is obviously 329 00:17:27,880 --> 00:17:30,439 Speaker 2: way further than Golden State. So there are some what 330 00:17:30,480 --> 00:17:33,719 Speaker 2: I would call logistical complications to it. But from a 331 00:17:33,760 --> 00:17:37,639 Speaker 2: basketball standpoint, everything you said I agree with one hundred percent. 332 00:17:37,720 --> 00:17:44,720 Speaker 2: Because my concern about Miami as presently constituted is Yannis 333 00:17:44,880 --> 00:17:48,840 Speaker 2: is such a great player, assuming that the health issues 334 00:17:48,880 --> 00:17:50,400 Speaker 2: he's had the last few years he can get over. 335 00:17:51,080 --> 00:17:54,160 Speaker 2: He is. He gives you a floor to your offense, 336 00:17:54,560 --> 00:17:56,720 Speaker 2: but the ceiling does not exist if you do not 337 00:17:56,800 --> 00:17:59,480 Speaker 2: have shooting and shot creation outside of him. That's right, 338 00:17:59,480 --> 00:18:01,359 Speaker 2: and right now they don't have it. They don't have it, 339 00:18:01,400 --> 00:18:03,600 Speaker 2: and they are, you know, they're staring at having to 340 00:18:03,640 --> 00:18:06,840 Speaker 2: lose Norman Powell, their best three point shooter. Wiggins, to 341 00:18:06,880 --> 00:18:09,720 Speaker 2: me is declining. Davion Mitchell is a great defender, but 342 00:18:09,840 --> 00:18:13,040 Speaker 2: is not a good offensive player. You know, Bam, I know, 343 00:18:13,240 --> 00:18:17,800 Speaker 2: eighty three points not with stands into thirty two percent. Correct, No, no, no, 344 00:18:18,160 --> 00:18:23,159 Speaker 2: And so Miami has presently constituted will be one of 345 00:18:23,200 --> 00:18:26,840 Speaker 2: the best defenses in basketball. But I think flaty not 346 00:18:27,040 --> 00:18:30,480 Speaker 2: have enough offense to win three, let alone four rounds 347 00:18:30,480 --> 00:18:34,600 Speaker 2: in the playoffs. If they, yes, would Lebron solve all 348 00:18:34,640 --> 00:18:37,200 Speaker 2: of that a hell of a lot of it, because 349 00:18:37,480 --> 00:18:40,600 Speaker 2: it's not only his offense, but what we saw from 350 00:18:40,680 --> 00:18:44,000 Speaker 2: him in the first round of the playoffs this year. 351 00:18:44,760 --> 00:18:48,080 Speaker 2: What as as soon as he goes back to hand 352 00:18:48,160 --> 00:18:53,200 Speaker 2: on the control's offense initiator mode, everyone's three point percentage 353 00:18:53,240 --> 00:18:55,119 Speaker 2: goes up a percent or two because he's such a 354 00:18:55,119 --> 00:18:58,480 Speaker 2: good passer, he understands getting other guys involved. So I 355 00:18:58,640 --> 00:19:02,040 Speaker 2: like as a best ketball fit. I like all of that, 356 00:19:02,480 --> 00:19:06,480 Speaker 2: and there are not a lot of basketball fits I that. 357 00:19:07,200 --> 00:19:09,040 Speaker 2: Let me rephrase it as far as let's just say 358 00:19:09,320 --> 00:19:11,560 Speaker 2: Lebron is leaving the Lakers, which again I don't think 359 00:19:11,640 --> 00:19:13,600 Speaker 2: is the most likely outcome, even though the Lakers have 360 00:19:13,680 --> 00:19:16,640 Speaker 2: been wanting him to leave, even though he's been their 361 00:19:16,680 --> 00:19:21,000 Speaker 2: most reliable players since he's been there. The basketball fits 362 00:19:21,000 --> 00:19:25,679 Speaker 2: are mostly places I couldn't see him going like he 363 00:19:25,720 --> 00:19:29,679 Speaker 2: would fit. He would make Houston a snap contender and 364 00:19:29,680 --> 00:19:32,199 Speaker 2: fit perfect, no question. He's not going to Houston. No, 365 00:19:32,720 --> 00:19:36,240 Speaker 2: he would make Detroit a snap contender and fit with 366 00:19:36,280 --> 00:19:41,000 Speaker 2: them instantly. He's not going to Detroit. He Denver would be. 367 00:19:41,160 --> 00:19:43,480 Speaker 2: It would be great there, and his buddy kind of 368 00:19:43,520 --> 00:19:45,200 Speaker 2: owns the team. So maybe that's the possibility, but I 369 00:19:45,240 --> 00:19:49,680 Speaker 2: don't think it's likely. Golden State would be funding. Yeah, 370 00:19:49,880 --> 00:19:52,800 Speaker 2: but they can't win unless they also somehow find a 371 00:19:52,800 --> 00:19:55,199 Speaker 2: way to get Anthony Davis. They are just not going 372 00:19:55,280 --> 00:19:59,040 Speaker 2: to be a good enough defensive team Cleveland. He's in 373 00:19:59,119 --> 00:20:02,040 Speaker 2: the exact same position. He's in with the Lakers, which 374 00:20:02,080 --> 00:20:04,879 Speaker 2: is well, I am market. So you have Donovan Mitchell's 375 00:20:04,880 --> 00:20:07,600 Speaker 2: You're number one, Fine, that's Luca. Then you have this 376 00:20:07,680 --> 00:20:09,840 Speaker 2: James Harden guy. Here's the thing about me and James Harden. 377 00:20:10,119 --> 00:20:13,080 Speaker 2: I'm way better than him, just like he is with Austin. 378 00:20:13,640 --> 00:20:16,760 Speaker 2: But those guys are only can only play with the 379 00:20:16,760 --> 00:20:18,119 Speaker 2: ball in their hands. So I have to play this 380 00:20:18,119 --> 00:20:20,760 Speaker 2: Swiss army knife role, which is kind of a bummer. 381 00:20:20,920 --> 00:20:22,440 Speaker 2: And as a Lebron fan, I don't want to see 382 00:20:22,480 --> 00:20:25,199 Speaker 2: him finishing his career as a third option, like when 383 00:20:25,240 --> 00:20:28,400 Speaker 2: he's still this good. So for all those reasons, Miami, 384 00:20:29,720 --> 00:20:31,919 Speaker 2: you know, checks a lot of boxes. He has a 385 00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:35,399 Speaker 2: history there. They could absolutely win the title. They need him. 386 00:20:35,440 --> 00:20:37,440 Speaker 2: He would have the ball in his hands. So I 387 00:20:37,520 --> 00:20:40,240 Speaker 2: love the idea of it. I just don't think he's 388 00:20:40,280 --> 00:20:42,000 Speaker 2: coming back to the East Coast. I would love it 389 00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:44,000 Speaker 2: if he did. God, I would love it. If he did, 390 00:20:44,160 --> 00:20:46,000 Speaker 2: it would be sick. You would have to maybe get 391 00:20:46,160 --> 00:20:49,280 Speaker 2: what you know you have. You have properties somewhere in Florida. 392 00:20:49,280 --> 00:20:51,000 Speaker 2: I don't want to reveal it. You would maybe have 393 00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:52,040 Speaker 2: to add some down here. 394 00:20:52,160 --> 00:20:56,639 Speaker 1: No, it's I I I love Florida like Texas. I 395 00:20:56,640 --> 00:21:01,280 Speaker 1: don't get it's flat, there's no water Florida Texas Drive. 396 00:21:01,520 --> 00:21:04,119 Speaker 1: And I've said this before. I'm a huge college football fan. 397 00:21:04,160 --> 00:21:06,600 Speaker 1: Anybody who listens to the show knows I love college football. 398 00:21:06,600 --> 00:21:08,960 Speaker 1: And my take has always been, there are three programs 399 00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:11,439 Speaker 1: in college foot but it's mostly a rural sport. It's 400 00:21:11,520 --> 00:21:15,680 Speaker 1: you know, Tuscaloosa, it's ann Arbor. There are three semi 401 00:21:15,800 --> 00:21:20,280 Speaker 1: professional college programs, USC, Miami and Texas. 402 00:21:20,640 --> 00:21:24,080 Speaker 2: When they're good, the sport's great, yeah, of course. 403 00:21:24,080 --> 00:21:26,000 Speaker 1: And so if USC and I think they'll be good 404 00:21:26,040 --> 00:21:28,800 Speaker 1: because they have pro guys on the offensive line first 405 00:21:28,840 --> 00:21:31,760 Speaker 1: time since Pete Carroll days, so they'll be able to, 406 00:21:31,960 --> 00:21:35,880 Speaker 1: you know, play Big ten football. I am so happy 407 00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:38,920 Speaker 1: when I see a guy wearing to Miami Hurricane shirt 408 00:21:39,080 --> 00:21:45,399 Speaker 1: because anybody my age knows that college football used to 409 00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:48,640 Speaker 1: be there, used to be this. It was pretend we 410 00:21:48,760 --> 00:21:52,639 Speaker 1: do not pay the players. This is above board. And 411 00:21:52,680 --> 00:21:54,760 Speaker 1: we all knew Southern teams paid them through the church. 412 00:21:54,960 --> 00:21:57,919 Speaker 1: We all understand, and Miami did on boats right like 413 00:21:57,960 --> 00:22:00,560 Speaker 1: we all understood it. And USC had bags of money too, 414 00:22:00,560 --> 00:22:03,280 Speaker 1: We all got it. College football now is like not 415 00:22:03,320 --> 00:22:05,800 Speaker 1: only do we pay, and we pay sophomores. 416 00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:05,919 Speaker 2: In high school. 417 00:22:06,440 --> 00:22:09,720 Speaker 1: It's like college football grew up. It's like we all 418 00:22:09,800 --> 00:22:13,159 Speaker 1: knew it was happening. Now you can just when you 419 00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:16,800 Speaker 1: go out on your boosters yacht. Everybody knows. It's just 420 00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:20,479 Speaker 1: not for scrambled eggs, toast and signing day. It is 421 00:22:20,560 --> 00:22:23,320 Speaker 1: for money. And I think my take has always been 422 00:22:23,320 --> 00:22:26,280 Speaker 1: with college football, can we stop this veneer that it's called. 423 00:22:26,359 --> 00:22:27,200 Speaker 2: It's like the Olympics. 424 00:22:27,440 --> 00:22:30,640 Speaker 1: It's for pros Usain Bolts that making ten million a year. 425 00:22:31,640 --> 00:22:36,719 Speaker 1: The fact that Miami and not nothing against Gainesville and Tallahassee. 426 00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:42,119 Speaker 1: It's Florida Gator fan, right, the huge Miami needs to 427 00:22:42,200 --> 00:22:44,879 Speaker 1: be good for the sport to feel big. 428 00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:48,000 Speaker 2: Well, it also listen, there is there are not there 429 00:22:48,080 --> 00:22:51,359 Speaker 2: is a you're talking about when you know, I'm I'm 430 00:22:51,720 --> 00:22:54,560 Speaker 2: a little bit younger than you. But they had so 431 00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:56,639 Speaker 2: they had the Jimmy Johnson era. 432 00:22:56,960 --> 00:23:00,159 Speaker 1: Yes, the U schnellen Berger ericson Jimmy, they all on 433 00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:01,359 Speaker 1: even Butch Davis won. 434 00:23:01,480 --> 00:23:04,840 Speaker 2: Well that's that's and then they had you know, when 435 00:23:05,040 --> 00:23:09,840 Speaker 2: I was graduating high school thereabouts like late nineties, early 436 00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:14,080 Speaker 2: two thousands, some of the most outrageous teams and depth 437 00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:16,280 Speaker 2: charts in the history of the sport. They won a title. 438 00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:19,639 Speaker 2: They also had another title stolen from them on the call. 439 00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:22,199 Speaker 2: But you like the two I don't know, I was 440 00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:24,840 Speaker 2: one or o two Miami Hurricanes where it's like they 441 00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:28,280 Speaker 2: have five pros at running back, they have three pros 442 00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:28,919 Speaker 2: at tight end. 443 00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:33,000 Speaker 1: They're they're the Those teams were probably second most talented 444 00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:34,520 Speaker 1: to that Joe Burrow teams. 445 00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:38,439 Speaker 2: See it literally had nineteen. Those Miami teams were I 446 00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:41,000 Speaker 2: think they were. They so that and so there is 447 00:23:41,040 --> 00:23:44,919 Speaker 2: an element of, like when we talked about the biggest 448 00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:51,000 Speaker 2: brands in college football, I'm forty years old, Notre Dame 449 00:23:51,119 --> 00:23:57,160 Speaker 2: has never had a team that like the Reggie Bush 450 00:23:57,280 --> 00:24:00,439 Speaker 2: USC teams, right, those Miami teams I just mentioned. You 451 00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:04,399 Speaker 2: just mentioned an LSU team, the Vince Young Texas team, Like, 452 00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:08,879 Speaker 2: there are a lot of programs that, in my again 453 00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:15,200 Speaker 2: my whole life, have had higher, more holy ceilings than 454 00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:18,440 Speaker 2: Notre Dame and Notre Dame like kind of I think 455 00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:24,200 Speaker 2: still kind of reputationally thinks it's in that class. But again, 456 00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:27,280 Speaker 2: for almost a half century, it hasn't been. It hasn't 457 00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:31,840 Speaker 2: even had those highest high moments. And I am curious 458 00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:36,720 Speaker 2: if the what the new age of college football, Like 459 00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:39,560 Speaker 2: you're saying, where the it's not corruption anymore, it's just 460 00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:43,480 Speaker 2: legalized paying the players. If that does that even the 461 00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:46,240 Speaker 2: playing field, or does it temporarily in the playing field, 462 00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:50,560 Speaker 2: And then the big the biggest historical powers are just 463 00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:53,280 Speaker 2: if everyone's gonna pay be able to pay guys, then 464 00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:55,160 Speaker 2: I think will the kids be like, well, I'd rather 465 00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:57,359 Speaker 2: play for a school that has a history like my. 466 00:24:57,480 --> 00:25:01,199 Speaker 1: Well, here's what's happening, here's what's really happened within a 467 00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:03,320 Speaker 1: lot of the teams that were good are still good. 468 00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:06,480 Speaker 2: But it is called college football. 469 00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:11,600 Speaker 1: So when Alabama was dominating, or Georgia's and a lot 470 00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:14,080 Speaker 1: of the schools that were dominating nothing against Ohio State, 471 00:25:14,119 --> 00:25:16,960 Speaker 1: but you didn't think of academics. You thought of football, 472 00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:20,280 Speaker 1: not the college part the nil What you want is 473 00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:24,439 Speaker 1: rich boosters. Well, Vanderbilt, the average, the median income of 474 00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:28,960 Speaker 1: a Vanderbilt grad is double of Georgia. So now suddenly 475 00:25:29,119 --> 00:25:30,960 Speaker 1: all these guys at Vanderbilt make it. I mean, I 476 00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:34,400 Speaker 1: live in a neighborhood up in Chicago where Matt Ishbia 477 00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:37,520 Speaker 1: Vanderbilt grad, has a house that's bigger. 478 00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:39,880 Speaker 2: Than the last Ski lodge. I was at He's. 479 00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:43,440 Speaker 1: Bought the White Sox. He's bought so he's a Vanderbilt guy. 480 00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:47,719 Speaker 2: There's Matt. There's two of them. 481 00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:49,879 Speaker 1: Oh okay, okay, so I know I went to a 482 00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:52,080 Speaker 1: Cubs gad of there day. He was sitting right behind us. 483 00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:54,440 Speaker 1: So nice, I mean, like down to earth, great guy. 484 00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:57,480 Speaker 1: But the point being is Indiana is an academic the 485 00:25:57,920 --> 00:26:03,040 Speaker 1: School of Business, Vanderbilt academic. Miami's got a great academic reputation. 486 00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:06,679 Speaker 1: So the college in college football now suddenly matters within IL. 487 00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:09,160 Speaker 1: It's a lot of the schools that have good football 488 00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:11,960 Speaker 1: programs but are known. Miami's known for its law school 489 00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:15,640 Speaker 1: and its academics. But it is that the idea, it's 490 00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:18,560 Speaker 1: just a money grab it. It's like, no, it's the schools. 491 00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:20,840 Speaker 1: And by the way, college kids are now staying in 492 00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:21,760 Speaker 1: college longer. 493 00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:25,480 Speaker 2: That's not bad. Well, that to me is the most 494 00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:29,360 Speaker 2: the most interest. That last part is the most interesting. 495 00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:34,080 Speaker 2: We haven't yet seen it how it plays out impact 496 00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:38,280 Speaker 2: of INIL, which is are we going to all of 497 00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:42,280 Speaker 2: a sudden, Let's like, let's take running backs. Yeah, as 498 00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:47,320 Speaker 2: a for instance, where most years this year maybe a 499 00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:51,960 Speaker 2: bit of an outlier that you're the number one running 500 00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:54,480 Speaker 2: back in the draft might be projected to go mid 501 00:26:54,560 --> 00:27:00,440 Speaker 2: second round. That's right. And where a college again, who's 502 00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:03,080 Speaker 2: like the number three running back in the class and 503 00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:05,720 Speaker 2: because of that is projected to be a third round pick, 504 00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:10,040 Speaker 2: stays in school not to improve his draft position, but 505 00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:13,800 Speaker 2: because he can make more money, no question, being a 506 00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:18,000 Speaker 2: star college running back yep, than a rookie pays scaled 507 00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:19,680 Speaker 2: third round pick NFL running back. 508 00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:21,680 Speaker 1: That's a great point because running back is the last 509 00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:24,960 Speaker 1: position in pro football offensively, you can hit him anywhere 510 00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:28,720 Speaker 1: anytime when they come through the line, knees, shoulder, helmet. 511 00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:31,639 Speaker 1: Can't hit receivers, tight ends like that. So it is 512 00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:33,920 Speaker 1: the one it's the most punitive position to play. 513 00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:36,880 Speaker 2: So it kind of stinks to be a running back yep. 514 00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:40,639 Speaker 1: And to your point, guys are gonna stay in college 515 00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:43,440 Speaker 1: and say I'm gonna make four to be the number 516 00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:46,760 Speaker 1: one running back at Ohio State or six hundred thousand 517 00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:49,159 Speaker 1: to go to the Jaguars, correct, And so I do. 518 00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:51,520 Speaker 1: So it's a way of paying the running back. 519 00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:54,360 Speaker 2: Yes, but it's gonna be not on the NFL's time. 520 00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:58,320 Speaker 2: I think there's a lot of things that people are 521 00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:01,920 Speaker 2: So that's one thing about how that impacts Oh well, 522 00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:04,440 Speaker 2: that actually mean because one of the reasons running backs 523 00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:07,160 Speaker 2: don't get paid is because it's like, oh wow, they're 524 00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:09,320 Speaker 2: just so easy to come by, like you just draft 525 00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:11,880 Speaker 2: from the fifth round. Well, if some of that supply 526 00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:15,600 Speaker 2: is now staying in college to the NFL guys, But 527 00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:18,120 Speaker 2: then all of a sudden, do the NFL running backs 528 00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:21,200 Speaker 2: get a boost and pay And then does are we 529 00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:25,320 Speaker 2: seeing or are we starting to get down a road 530 00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:30,640 Speaker 2: where when if every draft seven of the twenty five 531 00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:33,000 Speaker 2: best players or wide receivers, because it seems like three 532 00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:35,560 Speaker 2: the last four drafts, like I got eight wide receivers 533 00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:38,480 Speaker 2: in round one, I got seven, then are we coming 534 00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:42,160 Speaker 2: to a place where what happened to running backs salary 535 00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:46,320 Speaker 2: wise happens to receivers, which is teams are like, yeah, 536 00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:51,880 Speaker 2: unless you are Jamar Chase, Justin Jefferson JSN. If you are, 537 00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:59,160 Speaker 2: it's a bubble wide. If you're Michael Pittman caliber guy, yeah, 538 00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:02,320 Speaker 2: I'm not paying you eighteen million dollars. You can just 539 00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:05,000 Speaker 2: draft away. I mean there's ten new ones coming in 540 00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:05,640 Speaker 2: the league every year. 541 00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:08,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's football is the coaching sport, and therefore it's 542 00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:11,480 Speaker 1: very cyclical on who matters. Safeties now are hugely important. 543 00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:13,959 Speaker 1: Tight Ends didn't use to matter. Tight Ends now are 544 00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:18,040 Speaker 1: gigantica Sean McVay, I mean tight ends because of Kittle 545 00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:21,120 Speaker 1: and Gronk emerged as a more important position. I can 546 00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:23,920 Speaker 1: remember Travis Kelcey and there Travis Kelcey. Yes, when Andy 547 00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:27,840 Speaker 1: Reid in Philadelphia started throwing on third and two, it 548 00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:30,840 Speaker 1: was like the league's changed. Yeah, And he and I 549 00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:32,640 Speaker 1: talked about that years ago. He started listening to the 550 00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:34,520 Speaker 1: show and I'm like, there's a guy in Philadelphia, which 551 00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:36,440 Speaker 1: is kind of a blue collar, tough town, they throw. 552 00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:38,120 Speaker 2: On third and two. The league's changing. 553 00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:42,920 Speaker 1: And then now with McVeigh going to personnel, where I mean, 554 00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:46,800 Speaker 1: they have like five tight ends and you notice this 555 00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:48,880 Speaker 1: year how many tight ends went and it was a 556 00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:52,200 Speaker 1: mediocre tight end class. So football tends to be like 557 00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:54,560 Speaker 1: anything else, like housing in the market. It's very, very 558 00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:57,760 Speaker 1: cyclical because coaching matters so much. My favorite part about 559 00:29:57,760 --> 00:30:00,800 Speaker 1: sports is not the tradition. It's not rear view mirror, 560 00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:05,000 Speaker 1: it's the windshield. These leagues constantly change, like Minnesota fascinating. 561 00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:08,080 Speaker 1: Minnesota's like we're gonna get rid of nas Read and 562 00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:10,800 Speaker 1: Julius Randall because I think they look at Oklahoma City 563 00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:14,840 Speaker 1: and Wemby and they're like, the only way we can beat. 564 00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:16,320 Speaker 2: Him now is shooters and athletes. 565 00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:18,760 Speaker 1: So they get the kid from Chicago at the trade deadline, 566 00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:22,920 Speaker 1: they draft the kid Isaiah from Duke the top of 567 00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:26,240 Speaker 1: the second round. They go get LaMelo ball. So you 568 00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:28,680 Speaker 1: can tell what Minnesota's doing. They figured it out the 569 00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:33,040 Speaker 1: trade deadline. We can't Wemby's eating playing go bear off 570 00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:36,400 Speaker 1: the court. We're gonna go speed. That's the only way 571 00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:39,520 Speaker 1: to take bigs out. So that it's constant, the constant 572 00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:43,520 Speaker 1: change culturally in football and basketball baseball. Now, it's just 573 00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:46,480 Speaker 1: that's what I love about sports. Constant, Like we're seeing 574 00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:48,160 Speaker 1: it in soccer, We're seeing it in everything. 575 00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:50,400 Speaker 2: So I can we stay with the LaMelo trade? Fir 576 00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:50,760 Speaker 2: a second? 577 00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:50,960 Speaker 1: Yeah? 578 00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:54,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, So because Tim Connolly, right, Tim Connolly built the Nuggets. 579 00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:57,800 Speaker 2: Smart guy. He then got hired to build the Timberwolves. Yeah, 580 00:30:57,840 --> 00:31:01,360 Speaker 2: and he built a team specifically to beat the Nuggets, right, 581 00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:03,400 Speaker 2: and he did it. They beat him. They when the 582 00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:05,920 Speaker 2: Nuggets were the defending champs, the Timberls beat him in seven. 583 00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:08,440 Speaker 2: The Timberwls this year played him again in the first round, 584 00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:10,680 Speaker 2: they were all banged up. They beat him anyway, but 585 00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:16,080 Speaker 2: unfortunately for him it I think he realized, Shit, the 586 00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:18,680 Speaker 2: team I built my team to beat is no longer 587 00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:22,800 Speaker 2: the team to beat like and so now san Antonio 588 00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:25,760 Speaker 2: is he thinks potentially the team to beat. So we 589 00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:29,400 Speaker 2: got to build a team that can counteract Wimby. Speed 590 00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:33,400 Speaker 2: it up. With that said, unless that then the next 591 00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:36,239 Speaker 2: phase of his plan is And so now when the 592 00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:39,640 Speaker 2: Spurs come to Minnesota on these icy roads, maybe Lamello 593 00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:44,200 Speaker 2: can get in a bender bender with Wimby. And I don't, 594 00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:48,400 Speaker 2: I do not. I am I understand pivoting. I understand 595 00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:52,560 Speaker 2: them saying we've got to remake this, that Julius Randall's 596 00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:56,120 Speaker 2: not a playoff performer that you know, as beloved as 597 00:31:56,240 --> 00:31:58,920 Speaker 2: Nasried is, we feel like we can replace him. I 598 00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:02,239 Speaker 2: get all of that. I do not understand for the 599 00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:06,240 Speaker 2: life of me, why if you're trying to play championship 600 00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:10,120 Speaker 2: level basketball, you would say, LaMelo ball, we want you 601 00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:12,040 Speaker 2: to be a part of that. I don't. I don't, 602 00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:15,440 Speaker 2: I do not they. I do not think there is 603 00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:21,280 Speaker 2: a level of maturity and being an adult that is 604 00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:25,200 Speaker 2: requisite if you are going to be a best or 605 00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:27,880 Speaker 2: second best player, which he needs to be the second 606 00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:30,640 Speaker 2: best guy on a championship team. And I have no 607 00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:33,520 Speaker 2: reason to believe that he can do that. And here's 608 00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:37,040 Speaker 2: the other thing I will say. It would be very 609 00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:41,960 Speaker 2: concerning for me if a team drafts a guy number two, 610 00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:47,400 Speaker 2: sees him every day. He is coming off his healthiest year, 611 00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:50,880 Speaker 2: your team's best year, his best year. Yeah, and that's 612 00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:53,560 Speaker 2: when they're like, we better get out of this now. Well, 613 00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:55,880 Speaker 2: it feels a little like it like front running a 614 00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:57,120 Speaker 2: stock you know is gonna crack.