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Speaker 1: Hey there, folks. It is Friday, October third. This is

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Speaker 1: the day we find out just how long Sean Diddy

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Speaker 1: Combs will spend in prison. Welcome to this episode of

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Speaker 1: Amy and TJ. As of this recording rogues, we are

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Speaker 1: just hours away hearing this morning October third. We've been

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Speaker 1: talking about that day two months.

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Speaker 2: We have because it is the day, of course that

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Speaker 2: Diddy learns his fate, and so much of the world

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Speaker 2: and certainly we have. But I know many of you

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Speaker 2: listening have been following this story, this trial like never before,

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Speaker 2: and so this is the culmination, this is the ending,

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Speaker 2: This is the finale. We find out how long he

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Speaker 2: spends behind bars, and.

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Speaker 1: For the first time, the day before now he's going

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Speaker 1: to be sentenced, we hear from him for the first time.

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Speaker 1: You well, he wrote a long I certainly would argue

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Speaker 1: it's impassioned in some parts of it, even convince to

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Speaker 1: a certain degree, a letter to the judge pleading for

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Speaker 1: mercy on this day, pleading for mercy. We are going

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Speaker 1: to share. I was trying to just pull excerpts, but

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Speaker 1: so much of it was compelling, and it's compelling Robes

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Speaker 1: because we have not heard from this man in a

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Speaker 1: year other than a few things. He uttered into court.

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Speaker 2: Room, and we have never heard an apology at all

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Speaker 2: until this letter. And so we're going to read some

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Speaker 2: of it for you, and we're going to discuss our

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Speaker 2: with how he began. I hope this letter finds you

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Speaker 2: well and in good health and spirit.

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Speaker 1: I don't know why that jumped out. Just immediately I said, oh,

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Speaker 1: it's a pleasant no. And then you realize just how

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Speaker 1: the ugliness of everything. But that was just a pleasant

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Speaker 1: exchange and the judge it's.

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Speaker 3: Okay, maybe it's oddly polite.

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Speaker 2: It was like that moment when he stood up in

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Speaker 2: it almost felt like he was massaging the judge or something.

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Speaker 2: He was trying to charm him into being on his side.

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Speaker 2: So anyway, that seemed simple. Then he went on to say,

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Speaker 2: first and foremost, I want to apologize and say how

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Speaker 2: that I have caused others by my conduct. I take

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Speaker 2: full responsibility and accountability for my past wrongs. This has

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Speaker 2: been the hardest two years of my life, and I

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Speaker 2: have no one to blame for my current reality and

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Speaker 2: situation but myself. In my life, I have made many mistakes,

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Speaker 2: but I am no longer running from them.

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Speaker 3: I am so.

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Speaker 2: Sorry for the hurt that I caused, but I understand

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Speaker 2: that the mere words I'm sorry will never be good enough,

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Speaker 2: as these words alone cannot erase the pain from the past.

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Speaker 2: It's interesting, he says, the past two years have been

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Speaker 2: the hardest of his life because he got caught, he

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Speaker 2: got arrested, he got punished, he's been in jail, But

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Speaker 2: my goodness, those decades leading up to it seemed pretty rough.

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Speaker 1: In my opinion, again, I think that is what a

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Speaker 1: he's taking this time on the eve, like you could

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Speaker 3: That's my issue.

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Speaker 2: It seems good, it seems convenient, but it seems highly

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Speaker 2: motivated for personal reasons. It's highly motivated for personal gain.

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Speaker 1: Where do we ever leave room for this being sincere.

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Speaker 2: Because it shouldn't happen on the eve of the day

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Speaker 2: how hard it's been for him the past few years.

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Speaker 2: I know he's not trying to create a pity party,

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Speaker 2: but it does kind of read that way where you're thinking,

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Speaker 2: you gave these other women, according to even your own admissions,

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Speaker 1: You can easily say why somebody would dismiss that as

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Speaker 2: Yes, he goes on to say, over the past thirteen months,

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Speaker 2: My pain became my teacher, My sadness was my motivator.

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Speaker 2: I have to admit my downfall was rooted in my selfishness.

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Speaker 2: and over in my head daily. I literally lost my mind.

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Speaker 2: I was dead wrong for putting my hands on the

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Speaker 2: woman that I loved. I'm sorry for that and always

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Speaker 1: The idea I'm suggesting is just that walking around as

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Speaker 2: As he should, I think most people would say so,

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Speaker 2: yes anyway. But he does go in to say the remorse,

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Speaker 2: the sorrow, the regret, the disappointment, the shame. I honestly

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Speaker 2: Here's where he got me, he writes, if they put

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Speaker 2: it is so hard for me to forgive myself. It

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Speaker 2: I have always wondered, as I have heard and we

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Speaker 2: his physical brutality, his emotional brutality. And I kept thinking,

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Speaker 1: This sounds like perspect to me.

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Speaker 2: This does for the first time him acknowledging that if

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Speaker 1: I don't know, maybe there is some perspective there, but

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Speaker 1: I think to your point that might be, oh yeah,

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Speaker 1: most powerful line that he has a lot of it here.

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Speaker 1: You expect, oh yeah, of course he has to say

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't forgive me either kind of a thing.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that one spoke to me. That part of his letter.

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Speaker 1: This next line, here's the one that's a lot of

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Speaker 2: Yes, he said, I lost my way. I got lost

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Speaker 2: in my journey, lost in the drugs, and the excess

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Speaker 2: downfall was rooted in my selfishness. I have been humbled

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Speaker 2: and broken to my core. Jail is designed to break

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Speaker 2: There have been some days I thought I would be

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Speaker 3: Prison will change you or kill you. I choose to live.

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Speaker 1: Sounds like something from a self help book, A little

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Speaker 1: more so there, But what do you do? Do you?

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Speaker 1: It's possible you could take him at his word with

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Speaker 2: Yes, I mean that is what it sounds like. And

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Speaker 2: I do think that. Look, this can all be taken

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Speaker 2: just because he's writing this, it just feels like that

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Speaker 2: can't be the reason why he gets a significantly less sentenced.

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Speaker 1: That's key. Is it punishment enough? You know what? You

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Speaker 1: of people will He's been punished, But has he been

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Speaker 1: I think so, because case he describes incredible punishment that

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Speaker 1: things we'll get into here in his own word, how

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Speaker 2: The prosecution doesn't think so, and neither do his victims.

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Speaker 1: A year in prison? Possibly? All right, he continues here, Yes,

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Speaker 1: he was talking about prison there, so, he continues. Every

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Speaker 1: day since my incarceration, as difficult as my circumstances currently are,

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Speaker 1: I have made the best of my time by reading, writing,

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Speaker 1: working out or in therapy, obtaining the tools and knowledge

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Speaker 1: I have been putting in the work and working diligently

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Speaker 1: I never make the same mistakes again. Now would the

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Speaker 2: And I think possibly, Actually, I didn't know that inmates

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Speaker 2: that's I think that's applauded. Yes, that's a great thing

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Speaker 3: But like I said, it's just a step in the

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Speaker 1: And you're the timing is a problem for everybody, a

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Speaker 1: big problem. He goes on to say, I realized that

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Speaker 1: I am in a situation where no amount of money, power,

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Speaker 1: or fame can save me. Only God can save me.

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Speaker 1: My grandmother used to teach me that God makes no

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Speaker 1: mistakes and that everything he does is for your good.

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Speaker 1: I believe that a bad situation can be used for good.

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Speaker 1: Although this situation has been the hardest and darkest time

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Speaker 1: in my life, good things have come out of my

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Speaker 1: time in twenty five years. Holy hell, roes, that's no

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Speaker 1: small feat. Given what we heard and described about his

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Speaker 2: And oh yeah, I mean yes, when we heard all

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Speaker 2: to commit. Like that's what I'm kind of amazed by

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Speaker 2: the last two years. I get the withdrawal part of it,

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Speaker 2: and being incarcerated and losing all of your fame, wealth,

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Speaker 2: all of that, but it just seems like those years

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Speaker 2: claim he did. That sounds like a version worse than

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Speaker 2: It's almost like he's patting himself on the back that, see,

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Speaker 1: I love how you are receiving it.

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Speaker 3: How do you take it?

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Speaker 1: Well, I know it's interesting listening to you take it

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Speaker 1: And yes, there's a lot of people who think that immediately.

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Speaker 2: I think that he can be sincere and still require

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Speaker 2: So again he got like a little hit because he

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Speaker 3: So again it was that ego speaking. So I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so you're not going like this then. It has

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Speaker 3: Shock he gave them. Just wanted to put that in there.

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Speaker 3: He's a leader, He's a peacemaker, he's a hope giver. Yeah, okay,

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Speaker 1: I wonder how the judge is going to view that line.

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Speaker 1: He's asking for mercy, and again he has to mention

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Speaker 2: I'll make the argument here that I think a lot

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Speaker 1: Okay, And with that said, I'll skip that that line

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Speaker 2: Well, no, I do think, I know, I do think

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Speaker 2: we should read it. No, because I think it's interesting

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Speaker 1: So stay with us. I will read the paragraph in

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Speaker 1: continue now going over the letter that Sean Diddycombs wrote

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Speaker 1: of my children, he goes on to say, lost their mother,

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Speaker 2: I'm glad he put that out there. I think that

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Speaker 2: She worked three jobs to make sure we had a

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Speaker 3: That is true.

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Speaker 2: We watch that day in and day out. So he

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Speaker 2: It breaks my heart that I put myself in this situation,

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Speaker 2: I write you this letter, I am scared to death,

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Speaker 1: It takes something like this. Maybe it takes a lot

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Speaker 1: to your point, nobody will accept it wholeheartedly because timing

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Speaker 2: Timing is everything, and saying something like this after you

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Speaker 1: See goes on. For over a year, I have been

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the inhumane conditions that I mean, I didn't realize

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Speaker 1: So it seemed like maybe he was the leader you

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So he goes on to say, I started from nothing

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Speaker 1: Like the way you put that, at least one person

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Speaker 3: He says.

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Speaker 2: I realized that this trial has received a tremendous amount

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Speaker 2: will not let you down and I will make you proud.

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Speaker 1: What do you make of that make you proud?

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Speaker 2: It sounds like a kid saying that to his father.

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Speaker 1: Hmm, I will not let you down and I will

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Speaker 1: How much of it he wrote and was altered and

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Speaker 1: for effect? I don't know, but that was a I

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's an interesting choice of words to a judge

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 2: He then goes on to say, today, or at least

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Speaker 3: I humbly ask you.

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Speaker 2: For another chance, another chance to be a better father,

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Speaker 2: another chance to be a better son, another chance to

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Speaker 2: to live a better life. Writing this not to gain

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Speaker 2: of my existence and has changed my life forever. And

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Speaker 2: I will never commit a crime again. Thank you for

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Speaker 1: Signed Sean Combs. I believe him when he says you'll

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Speaker 1: never commit a crime again. If you send him home.

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Speaker 1: I can't imagine him blowing that opportunity. You would be

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Speaker 2: And yet we hear from Cassie Ventura Fines, who wrote

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Speaker 2: a letter saying she fears for her life if he

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Speaker 2: is let out. That he is a man that cannot change,

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Speaker 2: that he is a man that is full of retribution

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Speaker 2: and hate. So who do you believe? Whose letter do

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Speaker 2: you put more weight to?

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Speaker 1: Well, I guess your best indication of someone's future behavior

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Speaker 1: who do you believe? Obviously you would not believe him,

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Speaker 1: given his history and all we have learned. Whose letter

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Speaker 1: you're going to give more weight to, not his? Is

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Speaker 1: just that's just the truth of the matter. And again

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Speaker 1: to your point here, and this is when it kind

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Speaker 1: of clicked for me and what you're saying. He said today,

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Speaker 1: I humbly ask you for another chance. He has it,

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Speaker 1: He's going to have it. He's not going to prison

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Speaker 1: for the rest of his life. Getting a second chance

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Speaker 1: could start in four years. It doesn't have to start immediately.

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Speaker 3: And a lot of people don't think it should.

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Speaker 2: So we will keep our eye on this cord hearing,

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Speaker 2: the sentencing hearing, and we will pop back on as

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Speaker 2: soon as we get word as to what happened and

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Speaker 2: what the judge's final decision is. So stay tuned. Please

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Speaker 2: check your app because actually yes, if you subscribe, it'll

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Speaker 2: pop right up. As soon as we have word. We

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Speaker 2: will get on and we will give you all the

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Speaker 2: information and insight we have to this fascinating trial. Really,

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Speaker 2: it's anyone's guess what's going to happen today.

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Speaker 1: We watched every day of this trial and followed closely.

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Speaker 1: I am fascinated about this day and what we're about

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Speaker 1: to learn.

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Speaker 2: All right, thanks, thanks for listening to us. For now,

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Speaker 2: we will talk to you real soon. I made me

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Speaker 2: Robock alongside TJ.

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Speaker 3: Holmes. Thanks for listening