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Speaker 1: What's up? Everybody? Welcome into another episode of the Colts

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Speaker 1: Official Podcast presented by When That. I'm JJ Stankovitz, joined

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Speaker 1: here by Matt Taylor and Lara Overton. Guys, this is

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Speaker 1: plenty of things to talk about here on the Colts

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Speaker 1: Official Podcast presented by Windbet coming up, But today we

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Speaker 1: open up our Mailbag, our first mail bag episode here

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Speaker 1: on the podcast. Thank you to everyone who tweeted questions

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Speaker 1: Micah McFadden from the Colts local pro day that took

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Speaker 1: drafting them for the next four years. You know, as

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Speaker 1: it relates to this, if you're drafting them in the

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Speaker 1: first round, it's the next five But your needs today

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Speaker 1: are not always your needs tomorrow. So I think when

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Speaker 1: you when you approach the draft that way, then you

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Speaker 1: don't look at it as well, we've got to fill

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Speaker 1: this need. Because the Colts last year, like you said, Matt,

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Speaker 1: it looked like they had this red line need at

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Speaker 1: left tackle. They didn't draft one and then they went

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Speaker 1: and signed Eric Fisher. So when you approach the draft

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Speaker 1: that way, it may be. You know, we got another

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Speaker 1: question down here from veejo ds, what player are we

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Speaker 1: drafting at forty two and tell me why it's gonna

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Speaker 1: it's going to be a wide receiver. It might be,

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Speaker 1: but if that guy isn't the best card on the board,

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Speaker 1: it doesn't have to be a wide receiver. And Larah,

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Speaker 1: I know you've you've done a lot of these interviews

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Speaker 1: for with the next pick, and you've got a really

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Speaker 1: good sense of how the Colts draft. And every team

448
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Speaker 1: says they take the best player available, but a lot

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Speaker 1: of teams do draft for need in that sense. The

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Speaker 1: Colts really do seem to stick to that. They do.

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Speaker 1: They do, and they're very disciplined not only in those

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Speaker 1: draft data decisions, but in how they stack the board

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Speaker 1: so that that decision is very easy. When you get

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Speaker 1: to that point and that's why I don't think anyone

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Speaker 1: saw it coming last year that you were going to

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Speaker 1: go back to back d ends in rounds one and two.

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Speaker 1: I mean, when you did have needs in other areas

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Speaker 1: or perceived needs based on what everyone else was saying.

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Speaker 1: I don't think you thought you were going to go

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Speaker 1: in consecutive picks with the same position group, right, But

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Speaker 1: that's how they stacked the board. And they have done

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Speaker 1: their due diligence so deeply so on all of the

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Speaker 1: different prospects that those decisions were very easy. The debates

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Speaker 1: were not long for either of those guys, Diro Dangbo

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Speaker 1: or Quitty pay. In twenty twenty one, they'll do the

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Speaker 1: exact same thing in this. They'll take into account. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: certainly where you are molding this team to be, but

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Speaker 1: that is not the only factor that is going to

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Speaker 1: contribute to where they go currently in that second round.

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Speaker 1: And don't rule out the fact that you know, Chris

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Speaker 1: could work some more magic and you know, either add

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Speaker 1: picks or move up or do some different things in

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Speaker 1: preparation for that last weekend. Al So, a couple of

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Speaker 1: questions here that I want to combine. The first one

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Speaker 1: is from at stuff, Derek say, I've noticed one of

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Speaker 1: Ballard's biggest roster points is building depth of both D

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Speaker 1: line and OH line. Given that, can you give some

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Speaker 1: context as to why he let Chris Reid leave. The

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Speaker 1: second one comes from say when on Twitter, and this

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Speaker 1: is you know, why isn't Ballard doing a thing except

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Speaker 1: dollar store shopping? This is crazy. I believe the Colts

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Speaker 1: have to fill twenty two spots on their rosters. So

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Speaker 1: combining these two questions about the Colts off season, I

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Speaker 1: want to start with a Chris Reid one, and that

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Speaker 1: I think there's probably something to Chris Reid's a Minnesota guy. Hey,

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Speaker 1: this is an opportunity to go compete for a spot

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Speaker 1: to start in your home state. Chris Read and Adam

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Speaker 1: Thieland played together in college, which for guys coming from

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Speaker 1: yeah right, those guys don't get to play together a

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Speaker 1: whole lot in the NFL. There's probably something to that here.

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Speaker 1: It's not that the Colts didn't want Chris reidback. He

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Speaker 1: went he went home. I mean I also I don't

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Speaker 1: want anytime I hear Minnesota state. Does anyone else think

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Speaker 1: about Hayden Fox and coach Craig t Nelson, Like does

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Speaker 1: anyone else? Rightdoer? My favorite show as a child, and

496
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Speaker 1: probably like on Strong Indication Tuesday night at eight o'clock

497
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Speaker 1: it was the best, Right, I have it on VHS.

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Speaker 1: They have the whole series on VHS because it was

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Speaker 1: Minnesota State was the school. Right, Yeah, you're getting a

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Speaker 1: blank expression. Before I never watched you never watch I

501
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Speaker 1: never watched Coach, So hell, how old are you? Thirty three? Oh?

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Speaker 1: Come on now? Yeah you were impressionable when Coach aired. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I guess I need to watch it now. We started

504
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Speaker 1: watching the Soprano, so I'm kind of dialed into that.

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Speaker 1: It's a completely different. I mean, this is like a

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Speaker 1: thirty minute sitcom. I mean it's so good. Fascinated by Coach.

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Speaker 1: I loved Hayden Fox absolutely here you are producing with

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Speaker 1: the next pie Yeah here, yeah, exactly. So let I

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Speaker 1: just want to talk about depth, like I wanted to

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Speaker 1: use this as a vehicle to talk about a lot

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Speaker 1: to unpack here. Yeah yeah, so I'd totally got at

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Speaker 1: now I'm just now I'm just thinking about now I

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Speaker 1: just want to go watch Coach. I'm like swiveling around.

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Speaker 1: I've got two chairs. I got two chairs. I got

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Speaker 1: two drinks. So I think one of the things is

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Speaker 1: not only Chris Reed, you look at Mark Glewinsky too.

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Speaker 1: I think that this pointed to Chris, but those are

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Speaker 1: both guys who you you know, who played valuable positions

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Speaker 1: for you last year, and Glow had been here for

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Speaker 1: what three years. I do think that you feel like

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Speaker 1: that you have some young talent at that position. You know,

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Speaker 1: you have a guy like Danny Pinter in there that

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Speaker 1: you want to see what he can give you. Potentially

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Speaker 1: you have Will Fries who stepped in in that Arizona games, either,

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Speaker 1: guys who were draft picks by you, so part of

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Speaker 1: you probably wants to give them an opportunity to prove

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Speaker 1: what they can contribute. Yeah, depth is a huge piece,

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Speaker 1: but you also I know that people want to refer

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Speaker 1: to you know, I think it was quoted as dollar

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Speaker 1: store shopping because everyone points to cap space and those things.

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Speaker 1: But it's cash driven, so you have to have these

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Speaker 1: It's yes, you can see you have all this cap

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Speaker 1: space in the world. But we'll kind of get into

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Speaker 1: this and with the next pick, episode two, our resident

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Speaker 1: cathologist will break down the philosophy on a bit of

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Speaker 1: the off season spending and how Yes, you see trends

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Speaker 1: and where things are going across the league, but you

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Speaker 1: don't want to overspend and strap yourself when you have

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Speaker 1: a lot of other areas that you have to Yeah,

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Speaker 1: well and address the other thing real quick. Is trading

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Speaker 1: Rocky Scene on a rookie contract for Unique and Goaqway

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Speaker 1: on not a rookie contract. Isn't dollar store spending. No,

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Speaker 1: that's not. That is spending. So they're just that that

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Speaker 1: that other part of it. I just wanted to get

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Speaker 1: out there. But mate, when you look at the depth

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Speaker 1: of this team and what the Colts can still do,

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Speaker 1: you know, Chris Ballard always talks about you you build

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Speaker 1: your team through the middle of October, like that's when

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Speaker 1: the team building part of a year kind of slows down.

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Speaker 1: And that's the middle of October. I mean, you think

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Speaker 1: about some of the moves the Colts made late last

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Speaker 1: year during the season or right before the training from

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Speaker 1: Matt prior signing Andrew Sende who played a lot of minutes.

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Speaker 1: It's safety. I mean, there's still ways the Colts can

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Speaker 1: address their depth in the coming weeks. Well, they're gonna

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Speaker 1: have to because they only have about at last check

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Speaker 1: about fifty nine sixty guys on the roster, right, which

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Speaker 1: is what the point of this question, you know, is

559
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Speaker 1: that there are a lot more rosters. So yeah, this

560
00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:35,280
Speaker 1: is another great question, you know. To Lara's point, this

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Speaker 1: tells me that the Colts are are really okay, I

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Speaker 1: think more than okay with with Danny Pender's ability to

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Speaker 1: play guard at a high level, and I think if

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Speaker 1: the season started today, he's your right guard, and you know,

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Speaker 1: they also like what they have and Will Fries as

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Speaker 1: a depth piece, and then you know, with with Glewinsky

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Speaker 1: and read leaving, it also makes sense to kind of

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Speaker 1: trust in your draft process and your evaluation from years

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Speaker 1: past and continue to develop. It's I'm not going to

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Speaker 1: get into the capologist stuff because quite frankly, it's it's

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Speaker 1: like high algebra coming at me. That goodwill hunting. I'm

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Speaker 1: trying to do it on the on the wall in

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Speaker 1: the bathroom. But right, so, if if Danny Pinter can

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Speaker 1: play guard for the next two years, that's great for

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Speaker 1: the Colts because they would get a really good starter

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Speaker 1: on the offensive line on a guy who's on his

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Speaker 1: rookie contract and you already have one of the highest

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Speaker 1: paid offensive lines in the NFL. And you're going to

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Speaker 1: extend Quittin Nelson soon, um don't know when, and he's

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Speaker 1: probably going to become the highest paid offensive lineman in

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Speaker 1: the NFL regardless of position. You know, that makes a

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Speaker 1: lot of sense rather than paying a free agent. But

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Speaker 1: you need depth, and that's what makes this such a

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Speaker 1: good question. You know, the Colts started ten different offensive

585
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Speaker 1: line combinations last year, and Chris Ballard in the past

586
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Speaker 1: has really, you know, publicly kicked himself when you know,

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Speaker 1: he thought that he didn't do enough for the offensive line.

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Speaker 1: So we're gonna see how this works. Obviously, as you said,

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Speaker 1: j J, it's an ongoing thing. They're going to be

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Speaker 1: addressing this all off season, after the draft, well into

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Speaker 1: the season. You know, they only have nine offensive linemen

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Speaker 1: on the roster right now, so that number is going

593
00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:14,280
Speaker 1: to have to go way up soon and we'll have

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Speaker 1: a better idea how this shakes out, probably after the draft,

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Speaker 1: adding more pieces to that offensive line to compete and

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Speaker 1: add depth. I also think at some point you have

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Speaker 1: to have trust in the development the development capability of

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Speaker 1: your coaching staff, you know, with Chris Strasser and with

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Speaker 1: Kevin Muhi and the fact that you have these young

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Speaker 1: guys who you drafted to you know, to make an impact,

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Speaker 1: and then you are able to put guys who are

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Speaker 1: second year guys or third year guys next to a

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Speaker 1: Ryan Kelly and to Quentin Nelson and to be able

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Speaker 1: to elevate them. So at some point, to me, it

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Speaker 1: is showing faith in one the veteran guys that you

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Speaker 1: have and then the coaching staff that you have to

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Speaker 1: be able to develop those guys into starters at their positions.

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Speaker 1: And also Coach ran for nine seasons. I don't know

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Speaker 1: how you never watch like it ran into like when

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Speaker 1: was when did it? When did it run? Early early

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Speaker 1: nineties until ninety seven until ninety seven, So I would

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Speaker 1: have to start watching it when I was one, but

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Speaker 1: you could have caught it later. I wasn't super into

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Speaker 1: sitcoms when I was eight. Come on, j J, come on,

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Speaker 1: I think I just missed it. Yes, thank you. You

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Speaker 1: never heard this? Come on now you never heard this?

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Speaker 1: For coach? This is kind of a lame fight song.

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Speaker 1: It's the it's the Minnesota state fight song. This is

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Speaker 1: the Minnesota State fight song. I'm sorry to all of

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00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:48,240
Speaker 1: our listeners who are Minnesota State alums just threw everybody

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Speaker 1: under the bus man. Man, all right, all right, I

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Speaker 1: will watch I watched Mash as a kid, and I

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Speaker 1: love Lucy and Taxi. Why did you not watch Coach

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Speaker 1: watching the Simpsons? Man? Like? Well, so was I don't

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Speaker 1: watch anything and I watched Coach? All right, the last

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Speaker 1: one because this this, this, we've we've already gone off

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Speaker 1: the rail, so let's careem this train even further off

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Speaker 1: the rails. With the last question from at j d Q, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Jeff Q, you don't can't grab everybody. Lara knows everybody.

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Speaker 1: You can grab a drink with one current member of

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Speaker 1: the Colts right now. Who is it? Where is it

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Speaker 1: happening and what is their drink? Or Lara is it?

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Speaker 1: I've really spent a lot of time. I spent the

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Speaker 1: most time thinking about so much. I spent so much time.

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Speaker 1: Does it I'm assuming it doesn't have to be a player, right,

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Speaker 1: it can be anybody one of the Colts. So does

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Speaker 1: that mean a player. It's just it could be a player,

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Speaker 1: it could be a coach. I think we're gonna go

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Speaker 1: with any one because because I'm thinking I want to go,

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Speaker 1: I want to go over to Blend Cigar Bar with

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Speaker 1: Reggie Wayne. Yeah, I'm taking Reggie going to Blend Cigar Bar.

642
00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:58,160
Speaker 1: I want to hear all of like the great stories

643
00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:03,480
Speaker 1: of like Miami days with edg Erin and then his days,

644
00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:06,320
Speaker 1: you know, playing with all of I mean, you know,

645
00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:08,760
Speaker 1: going to two Super Bowls as part of this organization

646
00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:12,960
Speaker 1: coming you know, it's coming back to coach. I want

647
00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:15,560
Speaker 1: to hear about his car collection. I want to hear

648
00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:19,640
Speaker 1: about wild stories with Ed Reid, Like, I mean, you

649
00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:22,080
Speaker 1: could go for hours and then you're probably feel like

650
00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:25,480
Speaker 1: you're probably sipping something very refined. I don't know, that's

651
00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:29,000
Speaker 1: a great choice. Yeah, that's where it's where I'm going. Yeah,

652
00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:30,720
Speaker 1: this is easy, man. Where where do you I want

653
00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:33,560
Speaker 1: you guys to guess where my current my current guy,

654
00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:36,720
Speaker 1: current player would be Quintin Nelson and we're going to

655
00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:39,800
Speaker 1: like a dive bar, like I'm going to like a

656
00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:43,080
Speaker 1: pawn shop pub off of your stone. You are so

657
00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:46,480
Speaker 1: reopening the goat. Yeah, you're a carmel with Quintin Nelson.

658
00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:49,800
Speaker 1: There you go. No, for me, it's easy. It's Ryan Kelly. Yes,

659
00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:52,560
Speaker 1: we're going outside. We're not going anywhere. We're just gonna

660
00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:54,640
Speaker 1: have a fire pit. We're gonna play some cornhole in

661
00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:57,720
Speaker 1: the backyard. We're gonna smoke some meat, you know, some ribs,

662
00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:00,479
Speaker 1: some brisket. We're gonna drink some Miller Lights, and then

663
00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:03,080
Speaker 1: when those are gone, we're gonna dip into the Natty Lights.

664
00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:05,400
Speaker 1: And he's a Cincinnati guy, so we're gonna listen to

665
00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:09,000
Speaker 1: the Reds on the radio on the back decks, you know,

666
00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:12,200
Speaker 1: just drill some skylight chili. Yeah, top it off with

667
00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:16,080
Speaker 1: some Greater's ice cream, and then probably you know, sit outside,

668
00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:20,040
Speaker 1: tell some ghost stories. Nice little Saturday skyline chili with Greaters.

669
00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:23,399
Speaker 1: You're making it worse. Do you remember when Ryan it's

670
00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:26,200
Speaker 1: a cheat day? Okay? Ryan signed his extension a couple

671
00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:28,560
Speaker 1: of years ago, and he talked about that. He was

672
00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:30,279
Speaker 1: like ann order of Donados and get a six pack

673
00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:34,640
Speaker 1: of beers or something. But yeah, yeah, No, it was

674
00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:36,960
Speaker 1: like I was like, are you going to celebs like

675
00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:39,399
Speaker 1: I probably ordered Denados and pick up a six pack

676
00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:44,960
Speaker 1: of my kind of guy. So I am a huge

677
00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:49,120
Speaker 1: I love wings. I love chicken wings. So I'm Emporium

678
00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:53,160
Speaker 1: Keystone Sports. I'm going to pale Emporium with Grover Stewart

679
00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:58,000
Speaker 1: so we can see how Ale Emporium's wings stack up

680
00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:01,319
Speaker 1: to Grover stewart Sa hot ones. Yes, it's what you

681
00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:03,440
Speaker 1: need to do. It's like your own hot ones. I'm

682
00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:06,759
Speaker 1: they're not really hot. Hermanois aren't hot. This is my inn.

683
00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:10,440
Speaker 1: So I can try Grover's wings because they are legends. Sinkings. Yeah,

684
00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:13,279
Speaker 1: the sink wings, they're legendary. I take him to El Emporium.

685
00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:14,920
Speaker 1: We have the wings there, and I'm like, hey, are

686
00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:16,719
Speaker 1: these as good as your wings? He says no, and

687
00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:19,279
Speaker 1: I'm like, then I want to try what's Grover? What's

688
00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:22,760
Speaker 1: your beverage of choice? With Grover Stewart. Grover's beverage of choice?

689
00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:29,640
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, like a like a mid level,

690
00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:35,799
Speaker 1: like good solid beer type, or like a good solid

691
00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:39,399
Speaker 1: mixed drink. What do you think Grover's drink of choice

692
00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:41,719
Speaker 1: would be? Yeah, I don't I don't see. Yeah, I'm not.

693
00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:43,879
Speaker 1: I don't I don't want. I don't see. I don't

694
00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:46,640
Speaker 1: see Grover with anything other than a beer. I'm I'm

695
00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:48,120
Speaker 1: I want to go in between you guys with this,

696
00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:49,799
Speaker 1: because it wouldn't it be funny if he was like,

697
00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:55,920
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take that apple teeny right there, like everybody. Yeah,

698
00:35:56,160 --> 00:35:58,480
Speaker 1: I want to go because like Larry, you went for

699
00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:02,719
Speaker 1: the the you know, classed up, high falutin cigar bar.

700
00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:05,160
Speaker 1: Mate goes with a six pack of Miller Light. I

701
00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:06,840
Speaker 1: want to live, right. We didn't even go anywhere. We

702
00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:09,560
Speaker 1: just sat in the backyard. Yeah, I mean, don't get

703
00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:11,880
Speaker 1: me wrong, Like that's a thing. Like my other choice

704
00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:14,320
Speaker 1: was like like I want to do all of the things,

705
00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:16,879
Speaker 1: Like I just yeah, I was just thinking, most bang

706
00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:19,800
Speaker 1: for my buck. I'm getting like twenty years worth of stories,

707
00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:22,719
Speaker 1: some high quality cocktails, and a cigar with Reggie, you know,

708
00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:25,560
Speaker 1: like just yeah, I think that. I think I read

709
00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:27,920
Speaker 1: this as the assumption as I have to pay for

710
00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:29,719
Speaker 1: the bill. So that's why we just got a case

711
00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:32,280
Speaker 1: of beer in the backyard. I went for the cheap options.

712
00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:35,560
Speaker 1: Oh see, I thought Gorman was paying. Yeah, right, Okay,

713
00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:39,120
Speaker 1: if Gorman's paying, then we're going somewhere else. I'm going

714
00:36:39,160 --> 00:36:41,800
Speaker 1: to Prime with John Fox. That's where he told Mate

715
00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:43,920
Speaker 1: and I that that's his spot. I just want to

716
00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:47,560
Speaker 1: sit there, get a really big steak on Gorman's tab,

717
00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:50,560
Speaker 1: and have John Fox just tell stories for a while,

718
00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:52,799
Speaker 1: because he's got a lot of stories he could tell.

719
00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:57,000
Speaker 1: I would also like if we're just throwing I haven't

720
00:36:57,040 --> 00:37:02,120
Speaker 1: in good confidence that Matt Ryan is vodka guy, and

721
00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:05,840
Speaker 1: he also enjoys himself a very nice, you know, nice dinner.

722
00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:07,279
Speaker 1: So I think that it would be fun to do

723
00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:10,759
Speaker 1: like a like a Prime forty seven or an Anthony's chophouse,

724
00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:14,440
Speaker 1: share some like vodka SODA's, and maybe a good steak. Well,

725
00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:16,839
Speaker 1: me and Ryan will save some ribs if Matt wants

726
00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:19,200
Speaker 1: to come over. Listen, I'll pop I'll pop by after

727
00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:21,120
Speaker 1: if you still got a you know, some leftover meat

728
00:37:21,160 --> 00:37:23,759
Speaker 1: and some tinfoil, will we will make extra for you.

729
00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:26,560
Speaker 1: J J little care package. Appreciate that? All right, well

730
00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:29,160
Speaker 1: we are this care package was great. Hey, these questions

731
00:37:29,160 --> 00:37:31,839
Speaker 1: were really good. Thank thank you. Some more questions, Yes,

732
00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:34,600
Speaker 1: thank you to at Cash on air, at Pach Melendez,

733
00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:37,080
Speaker 1: at Terry Nance one two four, at stuff Derek say

734
00:37:37,160 --> 00:37:41,720
Speaker 1: say when at valejo DS and at JDQ does Derek

735
00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:44,399
Speaker 1: say maybe he'll tell us. Yeah, Well, it's only one

736
00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:46,880
Speaker 1: thing so far, but it's been good. It was a

737
00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:48,719
Speaker 1: good question, and these are great questions. We are going

738
00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:50,440
Speaker 1: to do another mail bag at some point. We will

739
00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:53,400
Speaker 1: let you know when that happens, but follow go watch

740
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Speaker 1: go watch Okay, yeah, right, everybody, that's my homework. Assignme

741
00:37:56,560 --> 00:37:58,480
Speaker 1: and I will watch an episode of Coach. Me what

742
00:37:58,520 --> 00:38:01,319
Speaker 1: you think about it? Watch an episode of Coach by

743
00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:03,120
Speaker 1: the time we do our next podcast, and I'll let

744
00:38:03,160 --> 00:38:05,000
Speaker 1: you know what I think. That's fair. Okay, that's all

745
00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:07,440
Speaker 1: we ask try it. Yeah, mate, I've been full of

746
00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:10,799
Speaker 1: TV recommendations lately. We were giving Casey Rex last week. Yes,

747
00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:13,120
Speaker 1: we were, yes, we were. Yeah. All right, well we're

748
00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:14,479
Speaker 1: going to get out of here. We're going to toss

749
00:38:14,480 --> 00:38:17,319
Speaker 1: to some sound from David Bell and Michael McFadden at

750
00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:20,520
Speaker 1: Colts Local Pro Day that's coming up right here on

751
00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:24,560
Speaker 1: the Colts Official Podcast presented by Win Batton Joy. Michael

752
00:38:24,600 --> 00:38:27,120
Speaker 1: McFadden joins us after the Colts Pro Day, of course,

753
00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:30,319
Speaker 1: linebacker star player at Indiana University Mica. First of all,

754
00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:32,360
Speaker 1: what was the Pro day like for you? What was

755
00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:35,000
Speaker 1: most beneficial for you being here today? Yeah? No, um,

756
00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:37,480
Speaker 1: you know, unfortunately I didn't work out here today, but

757
00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:39,520
Speaker 1: he got everything done on my pro day back at IU,

758
00:38:39,680 --> 00:38:41,239
Speaker 1: So you know, I think it was just more about

759
00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:44,360
Speaker 1: being participated and seeing the coaches and just you know,

760
00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:46,759
Speaker 1: kind of talk with people and showing face. I think

761
00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:48,279
Speaker 1: that was really important and I think, you know, it's

762
00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:49,959
Speaker 1: a great dayt here, a lot of guys perform well,

763
00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:53,120
Speaker 1: seeing the coaches, being around the coaches, hearing from the

764
00:38:53,160 --> 00:38:56,040
Speaker 1: coaches during this process again today, is it is it

765
00:38:56,080 --> 00:38:58,920
Speaker 1: different from what you are taught, what you're told at

766
00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:01,320
Speaker 1: the college level coming up here. Uh, you know, I

767
00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:03,920
Speaker 1: think it's it's a lot of it's the same. Um

768
00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:06,400
Speaker 1: guys kind of just encouraging you. And you know, you

769
00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:08,319
Speaker 1: never know where you end up in this process, and

770
00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:11,880
Speaker 1: you know, it's it's kind of going in blind at

771
00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:13,520
Speaker 1: this point. But I think, you know, all they can

772
00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:16,040
Speaker 1: give you his words of encouragement and words of advice

773
00:39:16,080 --> 00:39:18,000
Speaker 1: and kind of how to handle this process, which is

774
00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:20,800
Speaker 1: exactly what they did today. So for you in the NFL,

775
00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:23,879
Speaker 1: has it always been a dream of yours? And when

776
00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:26,520
Speaker 1: did you feel like you you could obtain that dream? Yeah, no,

777
00:39:26,600 --> 00:39:28,399
Speaker 1: it's it's definitely been a dream of mind since a kid.

778
00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:30,480
Speaker 1: And you know, as a kid, I probably wasn't as

779
00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:32,200
Speaker 1: good of a player as I am now, but I've

780
00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:33,880
Speaker 1: always had a dream of playing in the league. And

781
00:39:34,080 --> 00:39:35,880
Speaker 1: I think it kind of came about and you know,

782
00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:37,960
Speaker 1: I noticed it could be a serious dream once I

783
00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:40,560
Speaker 1: started playing in college and uh, you know, getting meaning time,

784
00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:42,879
Speaker 1: you know, meaningful reps and and starting for the team.

785
00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:45,040
Speaker 1: So yeah, it's been a dream since I was a kid. Though.

786
00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:47,320
Speaker 1: At you the last couple of years, I mean you

787
00:39:47,320 --> 00:39:49,759
Speaker 1: you were the leader not only on defense but for

788
00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:52,480
Speaker 1: the team. Where did that come from for you? How

789
00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:55,160
Speaker 1: much do you relish that ability to lead? Yeah? No,

790
00:39:55,239 --> 00:39:57,880
Speaker 1: I think you know, early days in high school, I had,

791
00:39:58,040 --> 00:40:00,520
Speaker 1: you know, had a great head coach there, and um,

792
00:40:00,560 --> 00:40:03,600
Speaker 1: you know, he always had a good word or quote

793
00:40:03,600 --> 00:40:05,360
Speaker 1: to say and give to us. And I think, you know,

794
00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:07,880
Speaker 1: me coming from a place like that and and playing

795
00:40:07,880 --> 00:40:10,960
Speaker 1: for teams that have good captains on them before me, Um,

796
00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:12,319
Speaker 1: I think all that kind of led up to me

797
00:40:12,360 --> 00:40:14,719
Speaker 1: being able to to lead the Hoosiers. And you know,

798
00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:17,040
Speaker 1: unfortunately this past year wasn't as what we wanted, but

799
00:40:17,160 --> 00:40:18,239
Speaker 1: I think you got to go through a little bit

800
00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:21,399
Speaker 1: of adversity sometimes to learn some things about yourself as well.

801
00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:23,400
Speaker 1: So I think it was an awesome opportunity for me

802
00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:25,279
Speaker 1: to be a captain of that team down there. What

803
00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:27,399
Speaker 1: about your game at linebacker? How do you think you

804
00:40:27,400 --> 00:40:30,480
Speaker 1: you fit? How do you think you translate to the NFL. Yeah, no,

805
00:40:30,560 --> 00:40:33,399
Speaker 1: I mean I think I'm a fast player, explosive who

806
00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:36,040
Speaker 1: can you know, do well blitzing and off the off

807
00:40:36,040 --> 00:40:39,040
Speaker 1: the line, off the off the linebacker. But um, you know,

808
00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:41,080
Speaker 1: I think at the same time, I'm I can, I

809
00:40:41,120 --> 00:40:43,600
Speaker 1: can cover well, and I'm good and vision coverage and

810
00:40:43,600 --> 00:40:45,759
Speaker 1: and man coverage and making plays on the ball in

811
00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:47,799
Speaker 1: that way too. So you know, I'm excited to see

812
00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:50,239
Speaker 1: whatever team picks me, or you know, whichever team I pick.

813
00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:53,320
Speaker 1: But um, I'm you know, I'm looking forward to the

814
00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:55,600
Speaker 1: opportunity to play if it doesn't work out. I mean,

815
00:40:55,640 --> 00:40:57,680
Speaker 1: like you said, if if you do go undrafted, that's

816
00:40:58,000 --> 00:41:01,040
Speaker 1: that's almost better. You can almost set yourself up situational wise.

817
00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:03,560
Speaker 1: I know you're not thinking about that, But talk to

818
00:41:03,560 --> 00:41:05,520
Speaker 1: me about going to Indiana. What what led you to

819
00:41:05,520 --> 00:41:08,360
Speaker 1: Bloomington Initially? Yeah, no, Um, so I had. You know,

820
00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:11,120
Speaker 1: I played with coach Allen's son Thomas down at Planted

821
00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:14,160
Speaker 1: High School, and uh, you know, obviously Wapp Failure and

822
00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:16,719
Speaker 1: Juwan Burgess were other teammates that played with me there,

823
00:41:16,719 --> 00:41:18,080
Speaker 1: and they were the year ahead of me, and I

824
00:41:18,120 --> 00:41:20,560
Speaker 1: saw them come up to Indiana and then that offseason

825
00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:23,440
Speaker 1: before my senior year, I got the offer, and um,

826
00:41:23,480 --> 00:41:25,760
Speaker 1: you know kind of weighed about my options during the summer,

827
00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:28,759
Speaker 1: but figured Indiana was the best spot for me. Uh,

828
00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:31,920
Speaker 1: not only um, you know, the level of play, but

829
00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:34,680
Speaker 1: also just the coaching staff and the and the team

830
00:41:34,680 --> 00:41:36,960
Speaker 1: and where I thought I'd fit in best. And um,

831
00:41:37,040 --> 00:41:39,799
Speaker 1: you know, enjoyed my visit up there, and and uh, yeah,

832
00:41:39,800 --> 00:41:41,600
Speaker 1: I made the decision before my senior year and I

833
00:41:41,600 --> 00:41:43,480
Speaker 1: couldn't be more happy of it. Well, what was it

834
00:41:43,640 --> 00:41:46,560
Speaker 1: like playing for Indiana under Tom Allen? I mean, is

835
00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:49,759
Speaker 1: he in real life how we experienced him through the

836
00:41:49,800 --> 00:41:52,279
Speaker 1: media without a doubt. I mean he's you know, he

837
00:41:52,360 --> 00:41:54,480
Speaker 1: won't say a false word on TV, and he's you know,

838
00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:55,759
Speaker 1: he's just the way he is and the way he

839
00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:59,160
Speaker 1: portrays himself, um, to our team, and he's you know,

840
00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:01,360
Speaker 1: he's a motivator. He's a leader just you know, like

841
00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:03,279
Speaker 1: he wants his players to be. But you know, he's

842
00:42:03,320 --> 00:42:05,600
Speaker 1: also a great coach and he brings people in around

843
00:42:05,719 --> 00:42:07,960
Speaker 1: him who are gonna, you know, make make the program

844
00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:10,239
Speaker 1: better and make their players better. Um, it was an

845
00:42:10,280 --> 00:42:12,160
Speaker 1: honor to play for him, and and a coach like

846
00:42:12,200 --> 00:42:14,440
Speaker 1: that and a leader like that, and um, you know,

847
00:42:14,440 --> 00:42:16,200
Speaker 1: I'm glad I got to learn from him. What do

848
00:42:16,239 --> 00:42:19,040
Speaker 1: you make of Indiana football now? In terms of of foundation?

849
00:42:19,080 --> 00:42:21,440
Speaker 1: Obviously you left it in a much better spot than

850
00:42:21,520 --> 00:42:23,480
Speaker 1: than when you found it, But what do you make

851
00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:27,120
Speaker 1: of of Indiana long term now going forward? Within the program? Yeah, No,

852
00:42:27,200 --> 00:42:29,279
Speaker 1: I mean I think obviously there's a little bit of

853
00:42:29,320 --> 00:42:31,960
Speaker 1: rebuilding going on there now, um, just with some of

854
00:42:31,960 --> 00:42:33,879
Speaker 1: the guys that you know I've left, But there's there's

855
00:42:33,880 --> 00:42:35,719
Speaker 1: a lot of great talent that that keeps pouring in

856
00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:38,120
Speaker 1: every year, and the coaching staff does a great job

857
00:42:38,120 --> 00:42:41,640
Speaker 1: recruiting and and going out and finding their type of guys. Um.

858
00:42:41,680 --> 00:42:43,440
Speaker 1: But yeah, I'm excited to go back and see how

859
00:42:43,480 --> 00:42:45,279
Speaker 1: the how the guys are doing and how the you know,

860
00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:47,600
Speaker 1: how the season's going on, and um, you know, I'm

861
00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:50,239
Speaker 1: encouraged by the by what I've been to a few

862
00:42:50,239 --> 00:42:52,640
Speaker 1: practices recently over the spring, just training down there, and

863
00:42:52,640 --> 00:42:55,319
Speaker 1: I've just been encouraged by what I've seen and the uh,

864
00:42:55,480 --> 00:42:58,239
Speaker 1: you know, the cambaraderie and the competition out there. All right.

865
00:42:58,280 --> 00:42:59,920
Speaker 1: What does what does draft weekend look like for you?

866
00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:01,680
Speaker 1: Do you have any plans to be with family and

867
00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:04,160
Speaker 1: kind of watch and wait. Yeah. Yeah, So I'll fly

868
00:43:04,280 --> 00:43:06,560
Speaker 1: down back to back to Tampa, back home about a

869
00:43:06,600 --> 00:43:10,239
Speaker 1: week before the draft, and um, you know, I I'll

870
00:43:10,280 --> 00:43:12,200
Speaker 1: try not to focus too much on it, but yeah,

871
00:43:12,320 --> 00:43:14,239
Speaker 1: I'm sure I'll be watching and kind of just hanging

872
00:43:14,239 --> 00:43:17,000
Speaker 1: out with family and um, yeah, I mean I'm excited

873
00:43:17,040 --> 00:43:19,319
Speaker 1: for it. So how nerve wracking has the process been

874
00:43:19,320 --> 00:43:20,799
Speaker 1: for you? I mean it's there's a lot going through

875
00:43:20,800 --> 00:43:23,440
Speaker 1: your mind, but then also training and getting you know,

876
00:43:23,520 --> 00:43:26,400
Speaker 1: physically in tiptop shape. I mean, how how grueling is

877
00:43:26,400 --> 00:43:28,960
Speaker 1: this for guys like you? Yeah, no, it's it's definitely different.

878
00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:30,719
Speaker 1: It's a different type of training than you've done before

879
00:43:30,760 --> 00:43:32,800
Speaker 1: when you're training to run full speed at the combine,

880
00:43:32,840 --> 00:43:35,920
Speaker 1: and different type of movement drills and shuttles. So, um,

881
00:43:35,960 --> 00:43:38,319
Speaker 1: that's definitely different from what I'm used to. And and

882
00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:40,400
Speaker 1: then also on top of that, going to the combine

883
00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:42,840
Speaker 1: and meeting with all the teams and meeting people that

884
00:43:42,840 --> 00:43:44,480
Speaker 1: you see on TV every day and you're not really

885
00:43:44,560 --> 00:43:46,360
Speaker 1: used to just sitting in the room having a conversation

886
00:43:46,400 --> 00:43:48,719
Speaker 1: with them. But that's all exciting at the same time.

887
00:43:48,719 --> 00:43:50,440
Speaker 1: And I think, you know, um, I think it's just

888
00:43:50,480 --> 00:43:53,200
Speaker 1: a great experience in the preparation for the NFL. Thanks

889
00:43:53,239 --> 00:43:57,200
Speaker 1: for the time, good luck, Thank you. It's just I mean,

890
00:43:57,239 --> 00:44:00,080
Speaker 1: what's home to you? I think Indiana is home. No,

891
00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:03,080
Speaker 1: it's not really. Yeah, it's not really a city. So Lafayer,

892
00:44:03,160 --> 00:44:04,719
Speaker 1: you know, I feel love when I go down there

893
00:44:05,080 --> 00:44:06,520
Speaker 1: or if I'm down here, I feel the love wherever

894
00:44:06,600 --> 00:44:09,440
Speaker 1: I go. Produe, you got to a point where like

895
00:44:09,520 --> 00:44:12,120
Speaker 1: every team you're facing, you who's getting the ball all

896
00:44:12,160 --> 00:44:14,400
Speaker 1: the time, and you still found ways to make plays.

897
00:44:14,440 --> 00:44:15,840
Speaker 1: I mean, did you get to a point where you

898
00:44:15,840 --> 00:44:18,879
Speaker 1: just relish that challenge of knowing like defenses are trying

899
00:44:18,880 --> 00:44:20,359
Speaker 1: to gear for you, and how do you find ways

900
00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:23,920
Speaker 1: to still produce? Yeah, most definitely. You definitely gotta, you know,

901
00:44:24,160 --> 00:44:26,360
Speaker 1: put that foot forward and understand that you know you

902
00:44:26,440 --> 00:44:28,600
Speaker 1: were the guy and that defense is gonna take those

903
00:44:28,600 --> 00:44:30,160
Speaker 1: best shots at you. But you just gotta make sure

904
00:44:30,160 --> 00:44:31,880
Speaker 1: you come prepared. And the things that I did would

905
00:44:32,200 --> 00:44:34,279
Speaker 1: meet with my receiver coach just to find ways to

906
00:44:34,520 --> 00:44:36,920
Speaker 1: you know, understand the offense more, and also meeting with

907
00:44:36,960 --> 00:44:40,200
Speaker 1: Aidan O'Connor. We met every Monday just to discuss defensive

908
00:44:40,200 --> 00:44:43,440
Speaker 1: back tendensees and also defensive tendencies at the whole. Yeah,

909
00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:44,920
Speaker 1: a couple of minutes on the sideline. I look back

910
00:44:44,960 --> 00:44:47,279
Speaker 1: with Chris Ballard, But was that like he was just

911
00:44:47,320 --> 00:44:48,920
Speaker 1: picking my brands to see one type of person I

912
00:44:48,960 --> 00:44:50,960
Speaker 1: was about, and just told me what it what I

913
00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:53,359
Speaker 1: have to do to be successful in the lead team

914
00:44:53,400 --> 00:44:55,520
Speaker 1: told you, are there any concerns in particularly are you

915
00:44:55,560 --> 00:44:59,440
Speaker 1: hearing anything consistently through this process? No? Not really. Everybody

916
00:44:59,440 --> 00:45:01,759
Speaker 1: that I've talked to, you know, they just been saying

917
00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:04,000
Speaker 1: I'm a great kid and I'm a phenomenal football player

918
00:45:04,080 --> 00:45:06,080
Speaker 1: there that if I do get drive to him, they'll

919
00:45:06,080 --> 00:45:08,360
Speaker 1: be happy to have me for the production comes up

920
00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:10,799
Speaker 1: a lot of me that was you were obviously very

921
00:45:10,800 --> 00:45:13,440
Speaker 1: productive to produ How much did that offense of that scheme?

922
00:45:13,480 --> 00:45:15,560
Speaker 1: How much did that play into that? Did a lot?

923
00:45:15,600 --> 00:45:18,399
Speaker 1: You know, everyone knows Coach Brahm is a phenomenal offensive mind.

924
00:45:18,440 --> 00:45:21,160
Speaker 1: So being able to play in that system with the

925
00:45:21,160 --> 00:45:22,920
Speaker 1: great weapons that we have, whether there was a running

926
00:45:22,920 --> 00:45:25,400
Speaker 1: bad quarterback and also the other receivers beside myself, you know,

927
00:45:25,440 --> 00:45:27,799
Speaker 1: it made it a lot easier for me. There's been

928
00:45:27,960 --> 00:45:31,160
Speaker 1: receivers we've been productive without, you know, pleasing forty times.

929
00:45:31,239 --> 00:45:33,279
Speaker 1: Is there anyone that you've looked out to just in

930
00:45:33,360 --> 00:45:36,000
Speaker 1: the NFL, but you think, like, you know, this guy

931
00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:38,600
Speaker 1: has won without speed and I can do it too. Yeah,

932
00:45:38,719 --> 00:45:41,280
Speaker 1: I probably have to say Keenan Allen and Alan Robinson,

933
00:45:41,320 --> 00:45:44,520
Speaker 1: those guys definitely aren't blazers, but they aren't slow either,

934
00:45:44,560 --> 00:45:46,120
Speaker 1: but there they find a way to get open, make

935
00:45:46,160 --> 00:45:48,440
Speaker 1: those tough catches, and find a way to be productive.

936
00:45:48,640 --> 00:45:50,440
Speaker 1: I know you didn't work out today, but back in

937
00:45:50,520 --> 00:45:52,399
Speaker 1: this abilding, I mean you were here probably working out

938
00:45:52,400 --> 00:45:56,720
Speaker 1: getting ready for the state championship game. Is it surreal

939
00:45:56,760 --> 00:45:58,640
Speaker 1: being here in a different context so to speak? It

940
00:45:58,719 --> 00:46:00,759
Speaker 1: definitely is. It's just like a chapter of my life.

941
00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:02,680
Speaker 1: Like so, just for me to end my senior year

942
00:46:03,200 --> 00:46:05,719
Speaker 1: playing here and then being back out here, just to

943
00:46:05,719 --> 00:46:07,560
Speaker 1: be back in the environment again, it's definitely is a

944
00:46:07,560 --> 00:46:10,320
Speaker 1: great feeling. Yeah. I remember watching you in high school.

945
00:46:10,320 --> 00:46:13,040
Speaker 1: I mean, whether it was basketball or football, when did

946
00:46:13,080 --> 00:46:15,399
Speaker 1: you have a sense that you were a good enough

947
00:46:15,440 --> 00:46:19,040
Speaker 1: athlete to play at this level. It definitely was my

948
00:46:19,080 --> 00:46:21,160
Speaker 1: freshman year. You know, it definitely was a hard time.

949
00:46:21,200 --> 00:46:24,239
Speaker 1: But that transition from college to I mean from high

950
00:46:24,239 --> 00:46:26,239
Speaker 1: school to college definitely eye open them. But I think

951
00:46:26,280 --> 00:46:28,719
Speaker 1: after maybe game five or six, I knew that I

952
00:46:28,760 --> 00:46:32,120
Speaker 1: can be a potential NFL receiver. What about the coaches?

953
00:46:32,120 --> 00:46:34,320
Speaker 1: I mean, you have great coaching at Purdue. Do you

954
00:46:34,520 --> 00:46:37,120
Speaker 1: see some of that same you know, the mindsets and

955
00:46:37,239 --> 00:46:40,200
Speaker 1: schemes translating to what you've been exposed to so far

956
00:46:40,200 --> 00:46:42,640
Speaker 1: in this process. Yeah, most definitely. As I said before,

957
00:46:42,719 --> 00:46:45,240
Speaker 1: coach Brown is a phenomenal offensive mine and Coach Shepherd

958
00:46:45,280 --> 00:46:46,920
Speaker 1: did a great job of teaching me the offense and

959
00:46:46,960 --> 00:46:49,319
Speaker 1: making sure that I understand. And you know, the crazy

960
00:46:49,320 --> 00:46:50,680
Speaker 1: thing is, when I meet with a lot of teams,

961
00:46:50,680 --> 00:46:53,719
Speaker 1: it's kind of the same terminology, just maybe a little

962
00:46:53,760 --> 00:46:55,680
Speaker 1: bit different language, but the idea is to the same.

963
00:46:55,719 --> 00:46:58,040
Speaker 1: So just being able to go to Purdue and understand

964
00:46:58,400 --> 00:47:01,480
Speaker 1: a complex offensive helps definitely helped me prepare for NFL.

965
00:47:01,880 --> 00:47:04,040
Speaker 1: What do you make of Purdue foundationally? You know, leaving

966
00:47:04,040 --> 00:47:06,880
Speaker 1: them and obviously they're in a much better position now

967
00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:08,759
Speaker 1: than when you found them, But what do you make

968
00:47:08,760 --> 00:47:10,920
Speaker 1: a long term of Purdue football? You know, I definitely

969
00:47:10,920 --> 00:47:12,839
Speaker 1: think they're turning in the right direction with the sets

970
00:47:12,880 --> 00:47:14,719
Speaker 1: we had last year, you know, finishing nine and for

971
00:47:14,880 --> 00:47:19,160
Speaker 1: it and being in Iowa, Michigan State, and the recruiting

972
00:47:19,200 --> 00:47:20,759
Speaker 1: class that they just got you know, it's really only

973
00:47:20,840 --> 00:47:22,759
Speaker 1: up here and it's a great time to be a bulletmaker.

974
00:47:23,080 --> 00:47:26,120
Speaker 1: You got any any tips from Rondale about just the

975
00:47:26,200 --> 00:47:28,879
Speaker 1: process and what it's like to break in the NFL. Yeah,

976
00:47:28,920 --> 00:47:31,520
Speaker 1: most definitely. Uh, you know, we talked frequently. You know,

977
00:47:31,560 --> 00:47:33,759
Speaker 1: it's a few things that just make sure that I

978
00:47:33,920 --> 00:47:37,120
Speaker 1: keep working and just increase the tendency because intensity, because

979
00:47:37,120 --> 00:47:39,319
Speaker 1: you know, when you get here, everyone's good. You know,

980
00:47:39,440 --> 00:47:42,839
Speaker 1: no matter if they're first round pick or undrafted free agent.

981
00:47:42,920 --> 00:47:45,200
Speaker 1: You know, they all trying to prove a point to

982
00:47:45,800 --> 00:47:48,959
Speaker 1: you know, understand why they deserve to be on this team.

983
00:47:49,000 --> 00:47:51,359
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984
00:47:51,400 --> 00:47:54,440
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985
00:47:54,920 --> 00:47:58,560
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994
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