WEBVTT - #374 Wrongful Conviction: False Confessions - Henry McCollum and Leon Brown

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<v Speaker 1>Hi there, it's Laurini writer, and this time I'm here

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<v Speaker 1>with some really encouraging news for anyone committed to true

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<v Speaker 1>justice in this country. This is a case that was

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<v Speaker 1>used by US Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia to justify

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<v Speaker 1>why the death penalty exists. But as we'll hear in

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<v Speaker 1>this episode, the murder he was using as proof that

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<v Speaker 1>the death penalty should remain in place was in fact

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<v Speaker 1>an egregious, wrongful conviction, exactly the reason why we should

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<v Speaker 1>question death sentences in every case. Eventually, justice was served

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<v Speaker 1>for Henry McCollum and Leon Brown. After thirty one years

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<v Speaker 1>on death row. They were exonerated on the basis of

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<v Speaker 1>actual innocence, and we're thrilled to tell you that since

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<v Speaker 1>our episode first aired, they've also received compensation for what

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<v Speaker 1>they went through. In May twenty twenty one, the brothers

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<v Speaker 1>were awarded seventy five million dollars, the largest wrongful conviction

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<v Speaker 1>verdict in US history. Over the years, their cases were

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<v Speaker 1>reviewed by dozens of judges, lawyers, and jurors who couldn't

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<v Speaker 1>see the truth of their innocence. With this settlement, finally,

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<v Speaker 1>Henry and Leon were believed welcome to wrongful conviction, false confessions.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Laura and I writer, and I'm Steve Drewson. In

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<v Speaker 1>today's episode, the crime is bad about as bad as

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<v Speaker 1>it gets. But the way police and prosecutors mishandled this

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<v Speaker 1>case and condemned two innocent men to death, that's a

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<v Speaker 1>crime unto itself. Henry McCollum and his younger brother, Leon

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<v Speaker 1>Brown survived a decades long fight for the truth from

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<v Speaker 1>behind bars. Henry and Leon are living proof that false

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<v Speaker 1>confessions can send innocent people to death row.

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<v Speaker 2>Twenty years ago, the Center on Wrongful Convictions, which Laura

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<v Speaker 2>and I codirect, was deeply involved in exonerating men off

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<v Speaker 2>of death row in Illinois. The numbers kept ticking up.

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<v Speaker 2>It went up to twenty people who had been wrongfully

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<v Speaker 2>sentenced to death.

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<v Speaker 1>Twenty innocent people. Eventually, Illinois lost confidence that the people

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<v Speaker 1>on death row were actually guilty, and so we got

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<v Speaker 1>rid of the death penalty.

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<v Speaker 2>When the death penalty was abolished in Illinois ten years ago,

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<v Speaker 2>there were some prosecutors who claimed that the sky would fall,

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<v Speaker 2>that crime rates would rise, that the system would miss

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<v Speaker 2>the ability and the power to use the death penalty

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<v Speaker 2>to right wrongs, and that hasn't happened. We've moved on,

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<v Speaker 2>we've evolved, and it's time for the rest of the

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<v Speaker 2>country to follow suit.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's the thing. The death penalty is supposed to be

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<v Speaker 1>reserved for the worst of the worst, but way too

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<v Speaker 1>often those are the cases where wrongful convictions happen.

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<v Speaker 2>These are the crimes where there is so much pressure

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<v Speaker 2>on law enforcement to come up with quick answers that

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<v Speaker 2>there are rushes to judgment. Right.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the problem with the death penalty. People can get

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<v Speaker 1>so blinded with the horrificness of a crime that moral

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<v Speaker 1>outrage can distort the search for the truth. And that's

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<v Speaker 1>what happened in this case. Henry McCollum and his brother

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<v Speaker 1>Leon Brown paid a terrible price for the police's rush

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<v Speaker 1>to judgment.

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<v Speaker 2>The facts of the crime often don't tell the whole story,

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<v Speaker 2>and sometimes tell a false story. So while on paper

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<v Speaker 2>this case looks like one that is deserving of the

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<v Speaker 2>ultimate punishment, in practice it sent two innocent men to

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<v Speaker 2>prison for more than thirty years.

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<v Speaker 3>To day.

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<v Speaker 1>Story starts in Robison County, North Carolina. It's a rural

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<v Speaker 1>area on the state's southern border, eighty miles inland from

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<v Speaker 1>the Atlantic Coast. Since the eighteenth century, Robison County has

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<v Speaker 1>been known for social strata and racial strife. It's a

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<v Speaker 1>place where a small group of elite white men descended

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<v Speaker 1>from colonial landowners, dominate everything from the lumber business to

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<v Speaker 1>the illegal drug trade to the courtrooms. Meanwhile Native Americans,

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<v Speaker 1>poor whites, and black people get the scraps. On September

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<v Speaker 1>twenty fifth, nineteen eighty three, Ronnie Lee Buie came home

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<v Speaker 1>to his tiny house in one of Robison County's predominantly

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<v Speaker 1>black communities. It was a little after twelve am. He'd

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<v Speaker 1>just finished working the midnight shift. Within minutes, he noticed

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<v Speaker 1>that his eleven year old daughter, Sabrina, was missing from

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<v Speaker 1>her room. Sabrina's family calls the police. As the sunrises

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<v Speaker 1>and words spreads, Friends and neighbors fan out to search

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<v Speaker 1>for her, but there's no sign of Sabrina until the

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<v Speaker 1>next afternoon, September twenty sixth. That's when Sabrina Buoy is found,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's one of the worst discoveries imaginable. Sabrina is

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<v Speaker 1>lying in a soybean field, dead, surrounded by empty beer

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<v Speaker 1>cans and cigarette butts. She's been beaten and raped. She

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<v Speaker 1>isn't wearing anything except for a bra that's been pushed

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<v Speaker 1>up around her neck. And her cause of death Sabrina

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<v Speaker 1>had been suffocated by her own underwear. Someone had pushed

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<v Speaker 1>them into her throat with a stick.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, when I read about this crime, it just gutted me.

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<v Speaker 2>My reaction was visceral. There's a level of depravity here

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<v Speaker 2>that shocks the conscience.

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<v Speaker 1>Police couldn't bring themselves to believe that someone from their

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<v Speaker 1>own community would have done this, so they started investigating outsiders.

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<v Speaker 1>Pretty soon, police caught wind of a rumor about a

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen year old who just arrived in Robison County to

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<v Speaker 1>visit his mom. The local high schoolers thought this new

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<v Speaker 1>kid might have killed Zabrina because, according to them, he

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<v Speaker 1>looked weird. That new kid's name was Henry McCollum. Even

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<v Speaker 1>though his mom lived in Robinson County, Henry had grown

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<v Speaker 1>up in New Jersey with his grandma. Henry had been

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<v Speaker 1>diagnosed with intellectual disability when he was really young. For years,

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<v Speaker 1>he attended a special school, but he failed a bunch

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<v Speaker 1>of grades anyway and eventually dropped out. School wasn't Henry's

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<v Speaker 1>strong suit, but obedience to authority was he'd never been

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<v Speaker 1>associated with any kind of crime. With nothing more to

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<v Speaker 1>go on than a high school rumor, police go to

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<v Speaker 1>Henry's mom's house, and on the evening of September twenty eighth,

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<v Speaker 1>they bring Henry in for interrogation. Three police officers questioned

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<v Speaker 1>him for more than four hours, all off camera. So

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<v Speaker 1>we don't know everything that happened in that room. What

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<v Speaker 1>we do know is that some of Henry's interrogators were

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<v Speaker 1>familiar with the crime scene. They knew all the information

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<v Speaker 1>that a killer would be expected to describe. Sometime around

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<v Speaker 1>two am, the interrogators emerged from the room with a

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<v Speaker 1>confession that named Henry as one of Sabrina's assailants. It

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<v Speaker 1>had been written out by the cops. Henry had signed

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<v Speaker 1>it at the end in oversized letters that looked like

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<v Speaker 1>a child's handwriting. According to Henry, as soon as he

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<v Speaker 1>wrote his name on the last page, he looked up

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<v Speaker 1>at his interrogators and said, can I go home now?

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<v Speaker 3>I think Henry is a very kind person. He's a

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<v Speaker 3>very thoughtful person.

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<v Speaker 1>That's Representative Vernetta Alston. She's a member of the North

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<v Speaker 1>Carolina State Legislature, but before that, she was a death

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<v Speaker 1>penalty lawyer who worked on Henry's case.

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<v Speaker 3>From the first time I met Henry in twenty twelve.

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<v Speaker 3>It's my impression that his deficits were very obvious. I

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<v Speaker 3>think anyone talking to him now, or five years ago

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<v Speaker 3>or thirty years ago would have noticed, and so as

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<v Speaker 3>a result of his deficits, he signed the statement. Now,

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<v Speaker 3>I think most folks in that circumstance would understand that

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<v Speaker 3>if they signed a confession to murder, that they wouldn't

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<v Speaker 3>be allowed to walk out the front door of a

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<v Speaker 3>police station. But the statement used language that Henry was

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<v Speaker 3>very unlikely to have understood, and so he didn't know

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<v Speaker 3>what was happening at all.

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<v Speaker 1>While Henry's confession was light on details, its story tracked

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<v Speaker 1>exactly what an investigator who'd been at the scene would know,

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<v Speaker 1>everything from the pattern on Sabrina's shirt to the brand

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<v Speaker 1>of cigarettes left behind.

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<v Speaker 2>Here's the thing. Henry could not lead the police to

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<v Speaker 2>any evidence that they didn't already know about. His confession

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<v Speaker 2>only contained details that the police already knew. That's a

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<v Speaker 2>red flag. You have to wonder, is this the suspect's

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<v Speaker 2>confession or a confession that was scripted by law enforcement

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<v Speaker 2>to ensure that this suspect was going to get convicted.

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<v Speaker 1>Henry's confession didn't just implicate him. The story was that

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<v Speaker 1>he'd attacked Sabrina along with four other teenagers. Now, three

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<v Speaker 1>of those teens turned out to have strong alibis. One

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<v Speaker 1>of them had even been out of state at the

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<v Speaker 1>time of Sabrina's death. Prosecutors filed charges against those three,

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<v Speaker 1>but the fourth person named it was Leon Brown, Henry

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<v Speaker 1>McCollum's fifteen year old brother. And while Henry was disabled,

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<v Speaker 1>Leon's limitations were far more profound. His IQ was in

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<v Speaker 1>the forties, on the borderline between moderately and severely disabled,

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<v Speaker 1>and he was completely illiterate.

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<v Speaker 3>Both of these men, who were at that time boys,

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<v Speaker 3>their intellectual disabilities were exploited. Folks who have cognitive deficits

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<v Speaker 3>that make it difficult or complicated for them to make

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<v Speaker 3>everyday decisions to get dressed, to loan as schedule, to

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<v Speaker 3>make food for themselves, to drive cars, to learn in

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<v Speaker 3>school at a level that's consistent with their age. Folks

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<v Speaker 3>who are unable to do those things, we shouldn't be

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<v Speaker 3>holding them to the same standard in our criminal justice system,

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<v Speaker 3>and certainly not in our death penalty system.

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<v Speaker 1>When Henry implicated Leon in his confession, it turned out

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<v Speaker 1>the timing was pretty bad. While Henry was being questioned,

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<v Speaker 1>the boy's mom arrived at the police station begging to

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<v Speaker 1>see Henry. Police told her she'd have to wait until

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<v Speaker 1>he confessed. But here's the thing. Henry's mom brought Leon

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<v Speaker 1>with her to the station. He was almost surely too

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<v Speaker 1>disabled to be left home alone. So after Henry confessed

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<v Speaker 1>and the police came looking for Leon, they didn't have

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<v Speaker 1>to go any farther than their own lobby. Police put

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<v Speaker 1>Leon into an interrogation room, then marched his big brother

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<v Speaker 1>in to show him what to do. Within minutes, Leon

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<v Speaker 1>was signing a written out confession of his own, scratching

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<v Speaker 1>his name as best he could on the bottom of

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<v Speaker 1>a statement he couldn't even read. Based on their confessions,

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<v Speaker 1>the two brothers were arrested and charged with rape and

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<v Speaker 1>capital murder.

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<v Speaker 1>The question of who killed Sabrina Buie gripped Robinson County.

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<v Speaker 1>The crime was terrible and the community wanted justice, so

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<v Speaker 1>the county's top prosecutor took over the case. The district

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<v Speaker 1>attorney himself, Joe Freeman Britt, was six foot six, a

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<v Speaker 1>season trial lawyer known for dramatic courtroom flourishes like pounding

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<v Speaker 1>bibles in front of the jury. But he was more

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<v Speaker 1>than just a flashy atturn me. By the time Henry

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<v Speaker 1>and Leon's cases crossed his desk, Joe Freeman Britt had

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<v Speaker 1>become infamous nationwide for his success at obtaining the death penalty.

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<v Speaker 1>Over his career, Britt sent more than forty seven people

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<v Speaker 1>to death row. At one point, he obtained two dozen

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<v Speaker 1>death sentences in only twenty eight months. Britt was so

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<v Speaker 1>prolific that he even ended up in the Guinness Book

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<v Speaker 1>of World Records, which called him the deadliest prosecutor.

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<v Speaker 2>Some prosecutors believe deeply in the eye for an eye mentality.

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<v Speaker 2>For some, it's almost a biblical calling, like religious fervor

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<v Speaker 2>that animates them.

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<v Speaker 1>Forty seven people, I mean, if he weren't a prosecutor,

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<v Speaker 1>he'd be one of the most prolific serial killers in

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<v Speaker 1>the United States.

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<v Speaker 2>Forty seven people, that's unthinkable.

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<v Speaker 1>It seems like Britt leaned into his hard ass reputation.

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<v Speaker 1>He'd run training conferences for other prosecutors where he taught

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<v Speaker 1>them to quote ripped that jugular out. When he felt

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<v Speaker 1>like waxing poetic, Britt would say, within each of us

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<v Speaker 1>burns a flame that constantly whispers, preserve life at any cost.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the prosecutor's job, he would add to extinguish that flame.

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<v Speaker 3>I think that that sums up who he was as

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<v Speaker 3>a person and as a district attorney. Joe Freeman. Britt

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<v Speaker 3>was frankly a terror. He was a large, commanding presence,

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<v Speaker 3>and I think really leaned into that persona. I know

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<v Speaker 3>that he was very from what I've read, he was

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<v Speaker 3>very much into the theater of a courtroom and really

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<v Speaker 3>played into that to secure convictions.

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<v Speaker 1>Joe Freeman Britt was in full form, gearing up to

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<v Speaker 1>try Henry and Leon for Sabrina's murder and seeking the

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<v Speaker 1>death penalty for them both. But before trial, two major

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<v Speaker 1>problems emerged with Britt's case against the brothers. First of all,

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<v Speaker 1>Henry and Leon's confessions didn't match each other on several

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<v Speaker 1>important details, who was involved, how they met up with Sabrina,

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<v Speaker 1>and the details of the rape and murder. And of

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<v Speaker 1>course there was the matter of the three other boys

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<v Speaker 1>named in Henry's confession, all of whom were definitely innocent.

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<v Speaker 2>Leon or Henry. There was nothing other than their words

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<v Speaker 2>that linked them to this crime, you know. And Henry

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<v Speaker 2>and Leon were not the kinds of people that would

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<v Speaker 2>have committed a perfect crime.

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<v Speaker 1>Even the way in which the confessions were written didn't

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<v Speaker 1>ring true.

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<v Speaker 3>In a statement used language that Henry was very unlikely

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<v Speaker 3>to have understood, and I think that's a product of

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<v Speaker 3>his age and most certainly a product of his intellectual disabilities.

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<v Speaker 3>And Leon's is similar. If you look at Leon's statement

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<v Speaker 3>is written in penmanship that Leon was incapable of because

0:14:44.360 --> 0:14:48.000
<v Speaker 3>of his deficits, and again used language and detail and

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<v Speaker 3>just cent in structure that Leon would have been incapable

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<v Speaker 3>of creating.

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<v Speaker 1>The second problem. There was a pretty obvious alternative suspect,

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<v Speaker 1>a man named Roscoe Artists. Artists lived near the field

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<v Speaker 1>where Sabrina's body was found, and he had a disturbing history.

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<v Speaker 1>Only a few weeks after Henry and Leon were arrested,

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<v Speaker 1>Roscoe Artists had murdered an eighteen year old girl in

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<v Speaker 1>an attack eerily similar to the attack on Sabrina. Both

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<v Speaker 1>victims were raped and asphyxiated. Both of them were also

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<v Speaker 1>found in fields wearing nothing but bras pushed up around

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<v Speaker 1>their necks. It gets worse. Roscoe Artists was also a

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<v Speaker 1>suspect in another rape murder case from nineteen eighty. In

0:15:26.880 --> 0:15:29.720
<v Speaker 1>that case, the victim was found with an object shoved

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<v Speaker 1>in her throat, another similarity that should have been impossible

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<v Speaker 1>to miss.

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<v Speaker 2>Henry McCollum and Leon Brown did not have the kind

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<v Speaker 2>of background that suggested they were capable of the horrific

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<v Speaker 2>nature of this crime. This was the work of a

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<v Speaker 2>sexual predator, probably a single sexual predator. Because of the

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<v Speaker 2>way the crime scene presented itself. This is not some

0:15:59.480 --> 0:16:05.360
<v Speaker 2>huge community that is beset by violent crime, and the

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<v Speaker 2>first thing that police officers should have done is focus

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<v Speaker 2>on men in their own community who had a proclivity

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<v Speaker 2>for committing these kinds of crimes. Rosco Artists showed a

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<v Speaker 2>history of doing this over and over again, and his

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<v Speaker 2>home was very close to where the body was found.

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<v Speaker 1>Now here's the really crazy thing about Roscoe Artists. One

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<v Speaker 1>month before Henry and Leon went to trial, Artists was

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<v Speaker 1>tried and convicted for the attack on the eighteen year

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<v Speaker 1>old girl. He was sentenced to death. And that fact

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<v Speaker 1>almost gives away the punchline, because sure enough, Roscoe Artists

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<v Speaker 1>was prosecuted by Joe Freeman Britt himself for a crime

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<v Speaker 1>nearly identical to the one Britt was prosecuting Henry and Leon.

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<v Speaker 2>For.

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<v Speaker 1>The similarities between Artists's other murders and Sabrina's death should

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<v Speaker 1>have been unmistakable.

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<v Speaker 2>Those are a warning signs, stop lights to say, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>wait a minute, let's see what really happened here, Let's

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<v Speaker 2>look at people who more fit the profile.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, Roscoe Artists was no stranger to law enforcement. That's

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<v Speaker 1>what's so mind boggling about this case. It was all

0:17:12.160 --> 0:17:16.680
<v Speaker 1>there ready to be done, right, and it was done

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<v Speaker 1>so wrong, so wrong.

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<v Speaker 2>This horrible, tragic nightmare could have been averted from the

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<v Speaker 2>very get go, and the woman who Rascal Artists killed

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<v Speaker 2>less than a month after Sabrina Buie was killed, her

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<v Speaker 2>life might have been saved.

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<v Speaker 1>Not everyone overlooked the similarities between these murders. We know

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<v Speaker 1>this because of what happened with a piece of forensic

0:17:39.000 --> 0:17:42.840
<v Speaker 1>evidence in the case, a single unidentified fingerprint found on

0:17:42.840 --> 0:17:46.280
<v Speaker 1>one of the beer cans near Sabrina's body. Three days

0:17:46.359 --> 0:17:49.639
<v Speaker 1>before Henry and Leon's trial started, the police sent a

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<v Speaker 1>request to the state crime Lab to compare that beer

0:17:52.560 --> 0:17:59.840
<v Speaker 1>can fingerprint to the fingerprints of Roscoe Artists. But Joe Freeman,

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<v Speaker 1>even before the crime lab had time to do the testing,

0:18:03.480 --> 0:18:07.040
<v Speaker 1>Britt charged ahead with Henry and Leon's trial. And that

0:18:07.119 --> 0:18:10.400
<v Speaker 1>trial was hardly a fair fight. You've got the deadliest

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<v Speaker 1>da facing off against two disabled teenagers.

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<v Speaker 2>Never stood a chance. It's going to be their word

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<v Speaker 2>against the word of the police when this case goes

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<v Speaker 2>to trial. How's somebody with a fifty six IQ or

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<v Speaker 2>a forty nine IQ supposed to try to match their

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<v Speaker 2>wits with a prosecutor like Joe Freeman Britt.

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<v Speaker 1>The heartbreaker was when Henry McCollum took the stand in

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<v Speaker 1>his own defense with his typical flare. Joe Freeman Britt

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<v Speaker 1>handled that cross examination himself. Didn't that touch your soul

0:18:43.920 --> 0:18:46.360
<v Speaker 1>at all? Britt asked, when that little girl was down

0:18:46.359 --> 0:18:50.320
<v Speaker 1>on the ground hollering, it didn't touch my soul. Henry answered,

0:18:50.640 --> 0:18:54.520
<v Speaker 1>because I didn't kill nobody. He added, I want to

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<v Speaker 1>tell you something, Joe Freeman, God got your judgment right

0:18:58.000 --> 0:19:04.480
<v Speaker 1>in hell waiting for you. It wasn't enough. The jury

0:19:04.480 --> 0:19:08.359
<v Speaker 1>convicted both Henry and Leon based on the confessions. After

0:19:08.440 --> 0:19:11.840
<v Speaker 1>the verdict came back that fingerprint testing appears to have

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<v Speaker 1>been canceled.

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<v Speaker 3>Jeff Freeman Brett was much more concerned and laser focus

0:19:17.320 --> 0:19:20.879
<v Speaker 3>on pursuing the death penalty against Tenry McCollum and Leon

0:19:20.920 --> 0:19:25.040
<v Speaker 3>Brown than he was in finding the real killer. They

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<v Speaker 3>failed to pursue a fingerprint examination that I tend to

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<v Speaker 3>think would have been very much determinative in this case,

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<v Speaker 3>and I have to imagine that Joe Freeman Britt was

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<v Speaker 3>part of that decision making process.

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<v Speaker 1>The defense was never even told that police had requested

0:19:39.400 --> 0:19:44.320
<v Speaker 1>fingerprint testing. Instead, that information remained hidden, and Henry and

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<v Speaker 1>Leon were sent to North Carolina's death Row, right alongside

0:19:48.240 --> 0:19:52.000
<v Speaker 1>Roscoe artists. A few years later, in nineteen eighty eight,

0:19:52.040 --> 0:19:56.159
<v Speaker 1>a court overturned Henry and Leon's convictions, but Britt retried

0:19:56.200 --> 0:19:59.919
<v Speaker 1>them both separately. In nineteen ninety one, at Leon's si

0:20:00.000 --> 0:20:03.120
<v Speaker 1>second trial, the judge dismissed the murder charges against him,

0:20:03.359 --> 0:20:06.480
<v Speaker 1>so Leon was convicted only of rape and sentenced to

0:20:06.520 --> 0:20:10.359
<v Speaker 1>life in prison, not death. But Henry still faced murder

0:20:10.440 --> 0:20:14.200
<v Speaker 1>charges and he was soon convicted again. His attorneys hoped

0:20:14.240 --> 0:20:15.960
<v Speaker 1>that at least they might be able to save his

0:20:16.080 --> 0:20:19.760
<v Speaker 1>life this time, but they were wrong. When Henry's sentence

0:20:19.800 --> 0:20:23.040
<v Speaker 1>was read, he sat silently with his head down on

0:20:23.080 --> 0:20:25.879
<v Speaker 1>the table, like a scared child. He had to go

0:20:26.000 --> 0:20:41.399
<v Speaker 1>back to death Row. The case of Sabrina Buie's murder

0:20:41.480 --> 0:20:45.240
<v Speaker 1>was closed, but not forgotten. That disabled kid who became

0:20:45.280 --> 0:20:47.800
<v Speaker 1>a murder suspect because some high schoolers thought he looked

0:20:47.800 --> 0:20:50.840
<v Speaker 1>weird was soon being singled out by a justice on

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<v Speaker 1>the United States Supreme Court. But Henry McCollum's case was

0:20:54.560 --> 0:20:59.000
<v Speaker 1>getting attention for all the wrong reasons. It was nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>ninety four, and this the Preme Court was debating whether

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<v Speaker 1>the United States should still have the death penalty in

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<v Speaker 1>a case from Texas one, Justice Harry Blackman wrote that

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<v Speaker 1>the death penalty should be ruled unconstitutional. Justice Blackman described

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<v Speaker 1>how lethal injection works, how one human being injects drugs

0:21:17.880 --> 0:21:21.080
<v Speaker 1>into another human's body in front of an audience, until

0:21:21.080 --> 0:21:24.440
<v Speaker 1>the condemned person dies in front of them. The justice

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<v Speaker 1>wrote about his experience of trying for twenty years to

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<v Speaker 1>develop rules that would ensure a perfect death penalty process.

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<v Speaker 1>After nearly two decades, he declared the task impossible. No

0:21:36.640 --> 0:21:38.560
<v Speaker 1>set of rules would be able to guarantee that we

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<v Speaker 1>only execute the guilty and only after the guilty receive

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<v Speaker 1>a fair process. From this day forward, Justice Blackman wrote,

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<v Speaker 1>I shall no longer tinker with the machinery of death.

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<v Speaker 1>Justice Antonin Scalia wrote a scathing rebuttal, and this is

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<v Speaker 1>where Henry and his brother Leon come in. Lethal injection,

0:21:59.800 --> 0:22:03.159
<v Speaker 1>Justice Scalia wrote, looks pretty desirable compared to some of

0:22:03.160 --> 0:22:06.760
<v Speaker 1>the worst murder cases. He urged readers to consider the

0:22:06.760 --> 0:22:10.000
<v Speaker 1>case of the eleven year old girl killed by stuffing

0:22:10.000 --> 0:22:13.920
<v Speaker 1>her panties down her throat. How enviable a quiet death

0:22:13.960 --> 0:22:18.440
<v Speaker 1>by lethal injection compared with that. Justice Scalia was talking

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<v Speaker 1>about the case of Sabrina Buwie.

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<v Speaker 3>Justice Scalia said that if there's ever a case that

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<v Speaker 3>warranted the death penalty, it's this one. Knowing what we

0:22:26.880 --> 0:22:31.040
<v Speaker 3>know now about Henry Leon's innocence, I think it completely

0:22:31.119 --> 0:22:35.359
<v Speaker 3>undermines any legal or moral argument behind that statement, because

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<v Speaker 3>if this case could be held up as the poster

0:22:38.440 --> 0:22:42.080
<v Speaker 3>case for the death penalty, and now we've discovered what

0:22:42.240 --> 0:22:47.680
<v Speaker 3>an absolute mess of negligence and railroading it involved, then

0:22:47.760 --> 0:22:49.640
<v Speaker 3>that means the entire system is undermined.

0:22:50.040 --> 0:22:53.000
<v Speaker 1>The years ticked by and that rail roading started coming

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<v Speaker 1>to light as the record of Joe Freeman Britz started

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<v Speaker 1>getting some scrutiny. According to a report by Harvard Law

0:22:59.320 --> 0:23:04.880
<v Speaker 1>School's Fair Punishment Project, Britt committed misconduct in fourteen cases.

0:23:05.400 --> 0:23:08.720
<v Speaker 1>In Henry McCollum's case, the report said he failed to

0:23:08.800 --> 0:23:13.160
<v Speaker 1>notify the defense not only about the Beercan fingerprint, but

0:23:13.280 --> 0:23:17.320
<v Speaker 1>also about a cigarette butt found near Sabrina's body. In

0:23:17.320 --> 0:23:20.520
<v Speaker 1>two thousand and five, more than twenty years after Sabrina died,

0:23:20.960 --> 0:23:24.639
<v Speaker 1>Henry's post conviction lawyers asked for DNA testing on the

0:23:24.680 --> 0:23:28.040
<v Speaker 1>traces of saliva left on the cigarette butt. That testing

0:23:28.080 --> 0:23:31.280
<v Speaker 1>found a single male profile and it didn't belong to

0:23:31.320 --> 0:23:34.639
<v Speaker 1>Henry or Leon. That evidence should have been enough to

0:23:34.680 --> 0:23:36.400
<v Speaker 1>exonerate them right then and there.

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<v Speaker 3>The testing wasn't sophisticated enough at that point to match

0:23:40.600 --> 0:23:43.640
<v Speaker 3>it to someone else. Basically, we knew that it wasn't Henry's.

0:23:43.640 --> 0:23:45.520
<v Speaker 3>We knew that it wasn't Leon's, but that's all that

0:23:45.560 --> 0:23:46.040
<v Speaker 3>we knew.

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<v Speaker 1>The profile couldn't be run through the national DNA database,

0:23:49.640 --> 0:23:53.640
<v Speaker 1>and so Henry and Leon were denied exoneration because their

0:23:53.680 --> 0:23:56.880
<v Speaker 1>lawyers couldn't tell the state whose DNA it really was.

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<v Speaker 1>It took nearly nine years for the case to regain momentum.

0:24:01.000 --> 0:24:02.640
<v Speaker 1>In twenty fourteen, with.

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<v Speaker 3>The help of another inmate, Leon wrote to the North

0:24:05.800 --> 0:24:08.480
<v Speaker 3>Carolina Innocence Inquiry Commission and asked them to look into

0:24:08.480 --> 0:24:08.920
<v Speaker 3>his case.

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<v Speaker 2>The North Carolina Innocence Inquiry Commission is an independent state

0:24:16.600 --> 0:24:24.280
<v Speaker 2>agency charged with investigating claims of actual innocence. But the

0:24:24.320 --> 0:24:27.879
<v Speaker 2>Commission doesn't have an agenda. It's not here to prove

0:24:28.359 --> 0:24:32.880
<v Speaker 2>that the defendants did not commit this crime. It's here

0:24:32.920 --> 0:24:36.760
<v Speaker 2>to find the truth, and it's the only statewide agency

0:24:36.960 --> 0:24:37.640
<v Speaker 2>like it in the.

0:24:37.600 --> 0:24:40.800
<v Speaker 3>Countrys Inquiry Commission could say, we want to test this

0:24:40.840 --> 0:24:43.679
<v Speaker 3>evidence we want access to these records. We want access

0:24:43.720 --> 0:24:45.640
<v Speaker 3>to these boxes of evidence that it has been sitting

0:24:45.680 --> 0:24:47.679
<v Speaker 3>on your shelf for thirty years. Hand them over to

0:24:47.760 --> 0:24:50.040
<v Speaker 3>us right now. So that's an extraordinary power to have.

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<v Speaker 2>There was no stone left unturned. They tested every hair,

0:24:55.680 --> 0:24:59.360
<v Speaker 2>they tested rappers found at the crime scene. They tested

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<v Speaker 2>beer ca They tested all of her clothing, her blouse,

0:25:03.800 --> 0:25:10.159
<v Speaker 2>her shoes, her socks, her underpants. They tested cigarette butts.

0:25:10.760 --> 0:25:14.680
<v Speaker 1>This time with more sophisticated testing, the cigarette butt DNA

0:25:14.960 --> 0:25:16.399
<v Speaker 1>was able to be identified.

0:25:16.760 --> 0:25:18.520
<v Speaker 3>It wasn't Henry's, it wasn't Leon's.

0:25:18.600 --> 0:25:22.040
<v Speaker 2>When they ran it through the North Carolina database, they

0:25:22.119 --> 0:25:26.080
<v Speaker 2>got a hit. They got a hit to Roscoe artists.

0:25:26.320 --> 0:25:29.560
<v Speaker 3>We knew of Roscoe artists, we knew how early similar

0:25:29.600 --> 0:25:30.520
<v Speaker 3>their crimes were.

0:25:30.880 --> 0:25:34.879
<v Speaker 2>Roscoe artists who was living in the very same community,

0:25:35.200 --> 0:25:39.359
<v Speaker 2>and a month later committed a very similar crime.

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<v Speaker 1>That was enough. Henry and Leon's lawyers, including Representative Alston,

0:25:45.000 --> 0:25:47.800
<v Speaker 1>asked the court to throw out their convictions based on

0:25:47.960 --> 0:25:51.720
<v Speaker 1>DNA evidence of the real killer, and on September second,

0:25:51.960 --> 0:25:56.679
<v Speaker 1>twenty fourteen, Henry McCollum and Leon Brown were exonerated in

0:25:56.720 --> 0:26:01.919
<v Speaker 1>a Robinson County courtroom as the burden of wrongful conviction

0:26:02.080 --> 0:26:05.800
<v Speaker 1>was lifted from him. Leon Brown smiled big, but all

0:26:05.840 --> 0:26:08.520
<v Speaker 1>Henry mccoum could do was sit back in his chair,

0:26:09.080 --> 0:26:12.800
<v Speaker 1>take a deep breath, and close his eyes. Both men

0:26:12.840 --> 0:26:17.760
<v Speaker 1>had served nearly thirty one years in prison. Now finally

0:26:18.240 --> 0:26:19.119
<v Speaker 1>they were going home.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh I wait, yallow, no, what's my name? That's right,

0:26:28.600 --> 0:26:35.600
<v Speaker 5>that's right.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the gut us.

0:26:35.160 --> 0:26:38.440
<v Speaker 4>Y'all, y'ave y'all, y'all.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you think to make a doubly official? Both Henry

0:26:42.440 --> 0:26:45.560
<v Speaker 1>and Leon received pardons from the North Carolina governor in

0:26:45.680 --> 0:26:49.639
<v Speaker 1>June twenty fifteen. Joe Freeman Britt remained a firm believer

0:26:49.800 --> 0:26:52.600
<v Speaker 1>in their guilt. When he heard about the pardons, Britt

0:26:52.600 --> 0:26:57.000
<v Speaker 1>called the governor a damn fool. Today, Roscoe Artist remains

0:26:57.000 --> 0:27:00.479
<v Speaker 1>behind bars in North Carolina. On appeal, his death sentence

0:27:00.600 --> 0:27:04.120
<v Speaker 1>was converted to life in prison. For his part, Joe

0:27:04.119 --> 0:27:11.280
<v Speaker 1>Freeman Britt died in twenty sixteen. So here's the thing.

0:27:11.920 --> 0:27:15.240
<v Speaker 1>During the thirty one years that Henry spent on death row,

0:27:15.359 --> 0:27:19.680
<v Speaker 1>he went through two capital trials. Twenty four jurors evaluated

0:27:19.680 --> 0:27:22.320
<v Speaker 1>the evidence against him, and they all voted to convict.

0:27:22.880 --> 0:27:25.720
<v Speaker 1>Over the years, more than twenty judges reviewed the case

0:27:25.760 --> 0:27:29.480
<v Speaker 1>against him and said they found nothing wrong. Twelve defense

0:27:29.520 --> 0:27:32.600
<v Speaker 1>attorneys represented him over the years. They all did their

0:27:32.720 --> 0:27:35.840
<v Speaker 1>jobs just as the system expects them to. If it

0:27:35.880 --> 0:27:39.240
<v Speaker 1>weren't for the Innocence Inquiry Commission, Henry would probably be

0:27:39.280 --> 0:27:44.119
<v Speaker 1>dead today, executed by lethal injection. But North Carolina is

0:27:44.160 --> 0:27:46.960
<v Speaker 1>the only state with a commission like that, even though

0:27:47.000 --> 0:27:50.480
<v Speaker 1>twenty seven other states have the death penalty, and the

0:27:50.480 --> 0:27:53.399
<v Speaker 1>commission can only take a tiny fraction of the cases

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<v Speaker 1>that are brought to it. So I have to agree

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<v Speaker 1>with Supreme Court Justice Blackman. We can have the best

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<v Speaker 1>process in the world, but there is no such thing

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<v Speaker 1>as a perfect death penalty.

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<v Speaker 2>They're going to be errors in the fact that in

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<v Speaker 2>some parts of a state the death penalty is sought

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<v Speaker 2>more frequently than in other parts of the state. There

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<v Speaker 2>are going to be errors in the kinds of cases,

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<v Speaker 2>whether they are high publicity cases or not, or in

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<v Speaker 2>the race of the victim. They're going to be disparities

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<v Speaker 2>in the way these decisions are made. It's a human endeavor,

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<v Speaker 2>so there are going to be errors.

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<v Speaker 1>Henry McCollums not alone to date, one hundred and seventy

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<v Speaker 1>two people have been exonerated off death rows nationwide, including

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<v Speaker 1>at least nine in North Carolina. Have we saved every

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<v Speaker 1>innocent person sentenced to death? There's no way. We haven't

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<v Speaker 1>executed an innocent person, and it'll happen again until we

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<v Speaker 1>abolish the death penalty for good.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, someone hadn't written a letter on Leon's behalf

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<v Speaker 3>to the Ince's Inquiry Commission not be here having this conversation.

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<v Speaker 3>Henry and Leon would not have been released. And our

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<v Speaker 3>criminal justice system, and our death penalty system in particular,

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<v Speaker 3>shouldn't and can't, rely on luck to protect innocent people.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks to luck, perseverance, and good lawyering, Henry and Leon

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<v Speaker 1>are survivors. Instead of living on death row, they can

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<v Speaker 1>finally just live.

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<v Speaker 5>I try to stay busy every day.

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<v Speaker 2>That's Henry, my future wife. You know, she makes my days.

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<v Speaker 3>She's sweet.

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<v Speaker 5>When I get up in the morning, like five o'clock

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<v Speaker 5>in the morning, you know, I make her coffee which

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<v Speaker 5>she drinks deep cafee. I drink mine's black with no shiver.

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<v Speaker 5>It's a lot of food that I enjoy eating. I

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<v Speaker 5>like turn up greens, collar greens, and I said, my

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<v Speaker 5>lady is the best one knew how to fix that

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<v Speaker 5>baked chicken. For me, it feels good to breathe this

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<v Speaker 5>air out here. It's good to have my freedom again.

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<v Speaker 1>And here's Leon.

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<v Speaker 6>My favorite thing to do is really, uh, listen to

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<v Speaker 6>the radio odies and R and B classics, the seventies

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<v Speaker 6>and eighties and nineties, some of the old school Stones

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<v Speaker 6>songs that they don't make no more.

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<v Speaker 2>And here the group won.

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<v Speaker 6>You know, I try to treat everybody the way I

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<v Speaker 6>would want to be treated. I guess that's why they

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<v Speaker 6>like me the way they do. They keep me going,

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<v Speaker 6>keep me laughing, and you know, night be here before

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<v Speaker 6>you know it.

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<v Speaker 2>The way the day be going. Man, it's always something

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<v Speaker 2>to do.

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<v Speaker 1>This episode is dedicated to Henry and Leon and to

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<v Speaker 1>all the brave lawyers fighting to abolish the death penalty.

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<v Speaker 1>Steve and I salute you. Wrongful Conviction, False Confessions is

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