WEBVTT - Who Can Win a Major in 2023?

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<v Speaker 1>I miss a green, for example, I'm already upset. When

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<v Speaker 1>I find my ball in the bunker, I'm really upset.

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<v Speaker 1>And when I find my ball in a brid egg

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<v Speaker 1>Frida Egg, the dreaded Frida Egg, Frida Egg Egg brid

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<v Speaker 1>Egg brid Egg, Lie, I'm about ready to run off

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<v Speaker 1>of the up course. Welcome back to another edition of

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<v Speaker 1>the Frida Egg Podcast. Today's episode is with Joseph Lamania.

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<v Speaker 1>Joseph is a golf statistician. He consults with PGA Tour

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<v Speaker 1>players as well as writes sometimes on The Friday Egg

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<v Speaker 1>as well as his newsletter Finding the Edge, which you

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<v Speaker 1>can search on substack for it is a great bread

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<v Speaker 1>that's free, highly recommend So we chat every once in

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<v Speaker 1>a while pretty regularly, and one thing that is always

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<v Speaker 1>on my mind every year as we get kicked off.

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<v Speaker 1>In twenty twenty three is who can win a major championship?

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<v Speaker 1>So that was the exercise. Joseph and I each wrote

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<v Speaker 1>out who we think can win major championships, the players

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<v Speaker 1>that have this requisite skills to win major championships, and

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<v Speaker 1>we kind of talked about, you know, the tiers that

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<v Speaker 1>they're in and the skill sets of players, and you

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<v Speaker 1>know what puts them in certain places. So this was

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<v Speaker 1>a fun chat. Didn't touch on everyone in great detail,

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<v Speaker 1>but talked about a lot of different players. So without

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<v Speaker 1>further ado, here is just a philamonia. Joseph, welcome back.

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<v Speaker 1>How are you doing.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm great, Thanks for having me Andy, I'm looking forward

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<v Speaker 2>to this.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I have to apologize. I'll probably apologize multiple times,

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<v Speaker 1>but my mic just like crapped out on me. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know what happened, and so I'm using the air pods.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll see the audio will be will be fine, it

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<v Speaker 1>will be listenable, but not our usual standards. What have

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<v Speaker 1>you made of Week one of the PGA to our calendar.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's given people a lot of reasons to

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<v Speaker 2>be optimistic about the future. Still have my reservations about

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<v Speaker 2>if they're going to fall through with what I think

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<v Speaker 2>needs to be done, but I think the first week

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<v Speaker 2>of an elevated event gave people a feel for what

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<v Speaker 2>what it looks like when every golf when all the

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<v Speaker 2>top golfers are teeing it up at the same time.

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<v Speaker 2>So a lot of reasons to be optimistic about the

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<v Speaker 2>PGA Tour.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think it seems like we're going to get

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<v Speaker 1>a better feel of who the best players are because

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<v Speaker 1>when you kind of look at I mean, it's like,

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<v Speaker 1>how do we classify Tony finals two wins last year

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<v Speaker 1>when he went back to back at three M and

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<v Speaker 1>Rock and Mortgage and there was you know, three or

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<v Speaker 1>four top fifty players in the world at the event.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, how do we how do we grade that

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<v Speaker 1>out in comparison to a second place finish at a

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<v Speaker 1>you know, WGC, Right, you know which one's better? Yep.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm sure you can maybe guess what I'm about

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<v Speaker 2>to say. But the last step of this is being

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<v Speaker 2>able to see who's doing well for the season. So

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<v Speaker 2>having a a season long standings that actually makes sense.

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<v Speaker 2>So let's uh, let's restrict FedEx cut points to just

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<v Speaker 2>those events. Please.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, that's another topic for another day and one I

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<v Speaker 1>think we've touched on before on this podcast. What I

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to talk to you today about and this is

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<v Speaker 1>something that I kind of think about all the time,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's it's kind of a derivative off of Brooks

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<v Speaker 1>and what he said about like I'm competing against I

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<v Speaker 1>can't remember the exact quote, eight players or whatever it is.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's kind of also derivative off of, like if

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<v Speaker 1>you're a competitive golfer and playing qualifiers, it's you know,

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<v Speaker 1>half the people shouldn't be there, half the people of

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<v Speaker 1>the people that should be there are going to play bad,

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<v Speaker 1>and then that leaves a lot smaller pool of people

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<v Speaker 1>you're actually playing a tournament against. So with that in mind,

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<v Speaker 1>but the topic that I think a ton about is

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<v Speaker 1>who can actually win a major championship. And you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we go into a new year of majors, I think

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<v Speaker 1>there are some players that, like, for example, that now

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<v Speaker 1>are on my list that weren't last year, Cameron Young,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, players that moved way up on my you know,

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<v Speaker 1>Fitzpatrick would be a player that wasn't on my list

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<v Speaker 1>last year that's on my list and pretty high up

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<v Speaker 1>this year. And you know, so that's the topic. I

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<v Speaker 1>kind of put them into tiers. I think you put

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<v Speaker 1>them into tears too, And we each created a list

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<v Speaker 1>to go off of, and you know, I think we

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<v Speaker 1>should start at the bottom. I kind of like created

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<v Speaker 1>some like catch lightning in a bottle, some players that

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<v Speaker 1>I want to see some stuff from, but from it,

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<v Speaker 1>from my I've got four tiers. How many tiers do

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<v Speaker 1>you have.

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<v Speaker 2>That's funny say that I have five tiers and I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not kidding My fifth tiers called Lightning in a Bottle.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean you got to cover your basis, Like

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<v Speaker 1>I mean the reality. I don't want to call Phil's

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<v Speaker 1>when at a fluke, but it was.

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<v Speaker 2>A fluke, I guess.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think you know there's there's a bunch of

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<v Speaker 1>things in Tier five, like you know if mine, mine

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<v Speaker 1>didn't officially make the list, but like a name in

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<v Speaker 1>there is Patrick Reed. I don't really think he's a

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<v Speaker 1>major championship player that you would like consider being like

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<v Speaker 1>a winner, you wouldn't be I think you'd be surprised

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<v Speaker 1>if Patrick Reed wins a major championship. And the point

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<v Speaker 1>of this list is like the names on this list

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<v Speaker 1>and my tiers are names, I wouldn't be surprised if

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<v Speaker 1>they want a major.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, So on that Patrick Reed is one of my

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<v Speaker 2>four names and Lightning in a Bottle important note on him.

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<v Speaker 2>He's not qualified for all the majors this year, right,

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<v Speaker 2>So you're mainly talking about Augusta, which is irrelevant topic.

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<v Speaker 2>As we go through a lot of these very relevant

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<v Speaker 2>which players are actually qualified for the majors? I think

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<v Speaker 2>before we get into the tiers. One difference between our

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<v Speaker 2>lists will be that I think mine may be a

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<v Speaker 2>little longer, and that's that's probably representative of how I

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<v Speaker 2>view golf and thinking about a lot of this in

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<v Speaker 2>ranges of outcomes, Like there's I think there are so

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<v Speaker 2>many players could they win? Of course, I think it'd

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<v Speaker 2>be I wouldn't want to leave out some of those

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<v Speaker 2>names that are like fifty to one, eighty to one

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<v Speaker 2>to win a tournament they could win. We're really deep

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<v Speaker 2>right now.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And to be clear, my Tier five isn't in

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<v Speaker 1>my list. It's like my it's like catch Lightning and

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<v Speaker 1>a bottle. So we're in the same boat here. Who

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<v Speaker 1>else do you have in this tier?

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<v Speaker 2>Sure? Yeah, I have four names in the Lightning and

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<v Speaker 2>a Bottle. Again, part of this is the golf courses

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<v Speaker 2>that we're going to see, So I think throughout the

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<v Speaker 2>pod I may reference some of the skills that'll be

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<v Speaker 2>required at some of these courses.

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<v Speaker 1>This year, you went way deeper than me. Yeah, more

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<v Speaker 1>of an eye test guy.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, that's fair. It'll be interesting to see how the

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<v Speaker 2>stack up.

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<v Speaker 1>Then.

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<v Speaker 2>So my four names and the lightning in a Bottle

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<v Speaker 2>are Bryson, Patrick Reid, Tommy Fleetwood, and Tyroll Hatton.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, I don't have I have Bryson in my tears,

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<v Speaker 1>and my kind of like writing is about him. Like

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<v Speaker 1>my one line about him is are you still a golfer.

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<v Speaker 2>Again? I'm with you, And I think a relevant, irrelevant

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<v Speaker 2>piece of Bryson is that the way his game is

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<v Speaker 2>currently built and how much he sprays the ball, he

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<v Speaker 2>has almost no chance of winning at Augusta or at LACC.

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<v Speaker 2>And I feel pretty confidently saying that.

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<v Speaker 1>It's interesting with him because for a lot of my research,

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<v Speaker 1>the way I kind of base this and move guys

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<v Speaker 1>around was really off of you know, what have you

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<v Speaker 1>done in the last five years at majors And that

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<v Speaker 1>kind of became the thing that I built this off of.

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<v Speaker 1>And Bryson, based off of what he's done in majors

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<v Speaker 1>in the last five years, should be in like Tier

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<v Speaker 1>two or Tier three, but he's in tier He's in

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<v Speaker 1>Tier four for me because like exactly what you point,

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<v Speaker 1>like the way his game is constituted, Now what is

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<v Speaker 1>he You know, he went to live and it's not

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<v Speaker 1>a deep or really that strong of a competition and

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<v Speaker 1>was completely irrelevant like, you know, that's been the interesting thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Like there's some players on here that we'll talk about

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<v Speaker 1>that are to live players, but like, I'm just so

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<v Speaker 1>shocked at how irrelevant some really big names were in

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<v Speaker 1>a small, watered down field of golfers with no cut,

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<v Speaker 1>Like I'm shocked at how bad they were last year.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, if we're gonna talk about the majors, the live

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<v Speaker 2>impact is a relevant part of the discussion. Not only

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<v Speaker 2>I think in terms of what it does to you

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<v Speaker 2>when you receive a huge check to go play on

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<v Speaker 2>that tour and maybe how that affects your motivation, not

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<v Speaker 2>for all players but for some of them. But I

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<v Speaker 2>think it also is an indication what those players are

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<v Speaker 2>signaling by going. I genuinely do think that. So we'll

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<v Speaker 2>see when we get to the majors how it impacts them.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it will impact those players differently. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I think a lot of those players was a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit of a sailing into the sunset to take that money.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and I think, you know, if I was going

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<v Speaker 1>to agree, I agree with you your players being in

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<v Speaker 1>there with like Fleetwood, and I think Fleetwood and Hatton

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<v Speaker 1>those are you know, players that won big events I

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<v Speaker 1>mean Terrel Hatton cantankerous and I think he'll be happy

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<v Speaker 1>with some of the golf courses this year. I think

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<v Speaker 1>Terrel Hatton will have no complaints at oh Kill, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and from vast standpoint, it's probably good. And Tommy Fleetwood

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<v Speaker 1>he'd be an interesting one. It'll kill too if I

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<v Speaker 1>had to zero in on on guys that might play

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<v Speaker 1>well there because of this narrow it's you know, it's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna require some really good second shots. I had in

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<v Speaker 1>my catch Lightning in a Bottle that you didn't have.

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<v Speaker 1>I had. Davis Riley and Cam Davis. I'm like, Irra,

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<v Speaker 1>I've been the last three weeks really since he won that.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it was the Australian Open that he won,

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<v Speaker 1>the Australian PGA.

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<v Speaker 2>Sam Belt Invitational, is that what you're talking about.

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<v Speaker 1>Sam Bellumvitational. I've just been talking myself more and more

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<v Speaker 1>into especially with the way you played in the Presidence

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<v Speaker 1>Cup Cam Davis breakout year, and I just am like

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<v Speaker 1>irrationally confident in Cam Davis. I don't know why.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I've been like shouting from the rooftops about Cam

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<v Speaker 2>Davis going back to last fall. To be honest, Andy,

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<v Speaker 2>I think I think there are a lot of people

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<v Speaker 2>with you. It's almost to me becoming like when you

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<v Speaker 2>like a musical artist and then you start to hear

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<v Speaker 2>them played on the radio and you get disappointed. I

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<v Speaker 2>feel like that's kind of where I am with Cam Davis,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's not that much of a sleeper pick. So

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<v Speaker 2>I don't have him in my lightning in the bottle

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<v Speaker 2>because I have him higher than.

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<v Speaker 1>That you have him higher? What about Davis Riley?

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<v Speaker 2>He didn't make my list, but I have a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of respect for his game.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, all right, I don't want to take too much

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<v Speaker 1>time on Tier five. You know, Tier four? Who's in

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<v Speaker 1>your Tier four?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay? Do you want me to give you at all,

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<v Speaker 2>like how many I have in each tier before going

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<v Speaker 2>into this or do you just want me to go

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<v Speaker 2>right into the Tier four?

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<v Speaker 1>Just go right into it. I've got I've got six guys.

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<v Speaker 1>How many guys do you have?

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<v Speaker 2>So I have twelve twelve names and Tier four.

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<v Speaker 1>So I in this I just kind of like the

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<v Speaker 1>way I would put these guys in here is like

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<v Speaker 1>they're either guys that would have been like have fallen

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<v Speaker 1>down but have like major pedigrees or guys that I

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<v Speaker 1>think are really good that haven't done anything.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, So for me, I'm labeled it can win. And

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<v Speaker 2>what I meant by that was wouldn't surprise me if

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<v Speaker 2>any of these players wins a Major. But they're not

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<v Speaker 2>to me, like a top fifteen threat that I'd expect

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<v Speaker 2>to be in contention at multiple of them. So kind

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<v Speaker 2>of a step up from the lightning in a bottle

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<v Speaker 2>for sure, but not somebody that I'm expecting to be

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<v Speaker 2>in the top ten and two or three of the majors.

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<v Speaker 2>So I can go and rattle mof if you're ready, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>rattle off. So I have Sam Burns in here.

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<v Speaker 1>I have him too.

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<v Speaker 2>I have Hideki, who hopefully we can talk a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit about. I think he's one of the most in

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<v Speaker 2>the world.

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<v Speaker 1>I had him in here and then I looked at

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<v Speaker 1>his numbers and I moved him up to Tier two.

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<v Speaker 2>I actually Thinkdki is one of the most underrated players

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<v Speaker 2>in the world.

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<v Speaker 1>Has him with Tier four.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, he has some injuries, so I'm not expecting him

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<v Speaker 2>to be relevant in all four of the majors. But

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want to go underweight on Hideki. I think

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<v Speaker 2>he's an absolutely elite player.

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<v Speaker 1>He has a win in four top fives in the

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<v Speaker 1>last five years, which like that's a top ten major player.

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<v Speaker 2>He's won eight tournaments since he's been on tour. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>really high on Hideki. Maybe that says more about the

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<v Speaker 2>players I have rated ahead of him.

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<v Speaker 1>But I just don't know how how many guys you

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<v Speaker 1>got ahead of him.

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<v Speaker 2>Fifty guys he got ahead of him, fifteen.

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<v Speaker 1>Fifteen, Holy cow. That's the thing is when I initially

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<v Speaker 1>did it, I did it without stats. I just like

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<v Speaker 1>kind of went down the owgr and I threw guys

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<v Speaker 1>down and I had Hideki in Tier four. And one

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<v Speaker 1>of the reasons is like I just never feel good

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<v Speaker 1>about Hideki. One of the things about Hideki is like,

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<v Speaker 1>if he's in contention, I don't ever think he's going

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<v Speaker 1>to win. And I think that's because of the potter I.

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<v Speaker 2>Can go with you to an extent, except that I

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<v Speaker 2>actually think he's a sneaky like would not want to

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<v Speaker 2>go head to head with Hideki. Not a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>emotion there. And he is absolutely one of the best

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<v Speaker 2>iron players in the world with a really underrated short game,

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<v Speaker 2>and this year in particular, I think the may your

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<v Speaker 2>championships will require iron tests, your irons to be tested

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<v Speaker 2>more heavily than in years prior. So I really like

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<v Speaker 2>Kideki's chances. Me putting him in Tier four was not

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<v Speaker 2>a slight to his game.

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<v Speaker 1>Feels like it.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, we'll get to the other names. H Do you

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<v Speaker 2>want me to go through my rests of Tier four?

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<v Speaker 2>I can. I can just rattle them off.

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<v Speaker 1>We got to see something from Sam Burns in a

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<v Speaker 1>major this year, right.

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<v Speaker 2>I agree, Yeah, that's why he's in my like could win.

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<v Speaker 2>But if he's not relevant in any of the four majors,

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<v Speaker 2>I wouldn't be shocked. Maybe that's the best way to

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<v Speaker 2>characterize this tier for me.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think that's a good that's a good thing.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a good way to classify it.

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<v Speaker 2>So with that in mind, Sam Burns, Hideki, Max Homa,

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<v Speaker 2>Shane Lowry, Tom Kim, Joaque Neeman Berger, Adam Scott, Sung,

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<v Speaker 2>JM cam Davis, Brooks, Kofka, and Aaron Wise.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, we have a lot of the same. So

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<v Speaker 1>my six worse Sung J Bryson, Adam Scott, Burned, Tom Kim,

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<v Speaker 1>and Louis Us Stayson.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Louis Stayson did not make my list.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I just like, I've never seen somebody go from

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<v Speaker 1>one year being so relevant to so like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>this falls in the same kind of bucket of Bryson right,

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<v Speaker 1>and Bryson and Louis in twenty twenty would have been

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<v Speaker 1>if you were drafting players at majors, would have been

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<v Speaker 1>top ten picks both of them, and then in the

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<v Speaker 1>last year it was just like complete irrelevant.

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<v Speaker 2>I do think a key difference between Bryson and Louis.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm looking at Louie's age right now, but I think

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<v Speaker 2>the go to live plus being forty years old and

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<v Speaker 2>being somebody who made their have their best year when

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<v Speaker 2>they put the absolute lights out, that's a really bad combination.

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<v Speaker 2>So I actually expect Louis to be irrelevant.

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<v Speaker 1>There's also there's also been a long rumored apthy about

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<v Speaker 1>Louis Sayson and professional golf, you know, and I imagine that,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, getting a bit giant check dropped into your

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<v Speaker 1>bank account might make that apathy grow a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>more too, so I could easily drop Louis. Louis was

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<v Speaker 1>like the last guy I added in here because I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, oh, you know, he had such a good

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty it would, and he's such a good major

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<v Speaker 1>player that it seems like it would be silly to

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<v Speaker 1>be to drop drop him down there. You know, somebody

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted to talk about was like, does Tom Kim

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<v Speaker 1>have enough pop for major championships?

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<v Speaker 2>Here we go, Tom Kim. So I've been I hate

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<v Speaker 2>being on the side of you know, I don't think

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<v Speaker 2>this person is going to do well because I want

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<v Speaker 2>Tom Kim to have an illustrious career. But I do

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<v Speaker 2>think every time I think we've learned a lot about

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<v Speaker 2>golf stats, how short term people's brains tend to be

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<v Speaker 2>flares up again, and I think Tom Kim is like

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<v Speaker 2>the perfect example where when this really hot streak came

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<v Speaker 2>about and he wasn't doing it in a way that's

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<v Speaker 2>necessarily sustainable. He's short off the tee, he's an unbelievable putter.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought more people would kind of go the route

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<v Speaker 2>of like this is going to come to an end

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<v Speaker 2>at some point, and that is where I stand. So

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<v Speaker 2>I think he'll settle into being a player who's ranked

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<v Speaker 2>like fifteen to twenty fifth in the world. Not that

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<v Speaker 2>optimistic about what his majors will look like this year,

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<v Speaker 2>But I really hope he does some speed training, puts

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<v Speaker 2>on some speed and then maybe he can ascend to

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<v Speaker 2>like a Colin Morikawa level. I think that's the right comparison.

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<v Speaker 1>He is a great iron player. I think that's the

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<v Speaker 1>thing that gives me a little bit of hope he is.

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<v Speaker 1>In terms of Tom Kim is that he's such a

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<v Speaker 1>good iron player. That's sad about his Part three scoring

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<v Speaker 1>average is impressive. I always like think that, like when

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<v Speaker 1>he played Part three as well, it's usually like a

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<v Speaker 1>sign that you're playing really good golf because you know

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<v Speaker 1>it's a you got to kind of like you have

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<v Speaker 1>to hit a lot of different iron shots on Part

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<v Speaker 1>Three's so I like Tom Kim, I do. The thing

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<v Speaker 1>I worry about is distance especially. I think he has

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<v Speaker 1>a better chance at I think like LACC would be

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<v Speaker 1>the place that I would most like his chances. I

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<v Speaker 1>would really not like his chances at Okill is so narrow,

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<v Speaker 1>it's just gonna be punishing, and I just don't think

0:18:21.480 --> 0:18:25.600
<v Speaker 1>you can drive it well enough to be short, Like

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<v Speaker 1>you're gonna miss some fairways and it's just gonna kill

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<v Speaker 1>you if you have six iron in hand.

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<v Speaker 2>Can I make a crazy comparison on Tom Kim. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>because some people asked me, like, who's who's his statistical profile,

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<v Speaker 2>and I don't really think there is a great one,

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<v Speaker 2>but one one name that kind of comes to mind,

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<v Speaker 2>and this might be disrespectful to Tom Kim, so I

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<v Speaker 2>do think he's better than this player. But there was

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<v Speaker 2>a stretch at the end of twenty seventeen where Brian

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<v Speaker 2>Harmon was liked. Look, I have a lot of respect

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<v Speaker 2>for Brian Harmon's game. He went top tens like plane.

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<v Speaker 1>Junior golf I was in the same era. He was

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<v Speaker 1>one of the greatest junior golfers of all time. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>the same age as I have a lot of respect.

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<v Speaker 1>That's disrespectful. My point is he's twenty years old.

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<v Speaker 2>I agree. I think Tom Kim is going to be

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<v Speaker 2>better than Brian Harmon. My point is Brian Harmon went

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<v Speaker 2>through this red hot stretch right, and then he was

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<v Speaker 2>completely irrelevant in the majors that year, in part because

0:19:25.320 --> 0:19:29.800
<v Speaker 2>major championships are generally much more events that you got

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<v Speaker 2>to hit the ball along off the tee and Tom Kim,

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<v Speaker 2>if he puts on some speed, I will completely revisit

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<v Speaker 2>this position. I think he's a better golfer than Brian Harmon,

0:19:37.600 --> 0:19:39.840
<v Speaker 2>but I think there's some regression in store, especially when

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<v Speaker 2>he gets to some courses where you really got a vomit.

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<v Speaker 1>I think, yeah, Like is he like maybe like the

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<v Speaker 1>extraordinarily wealthy Kevin Kissner.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean I think he's better than that, but yeah,

0:19:54.200 --> 0:19:55.439
<v Speaker 2>extremely well Brian Harmon.

0:19:55.800 --> 0:19:58.320
<v Speaker 1>You know, a good question is like who's better Brian

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<v Speaker 1>Harmer Harmon or Kevin kiss That'd be a good player

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<v Speaker 1>at com Yeah, because like Brian Harmon has been more

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<v Speaker 1>relevant in majors. I feel like, I mean, Kissner had

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<v Speaker 1>Quil Hollow and the U which trooon.

0:20:12.359 --> 0:20:15.120
<v Speaker 2>I think Brian Harmon finished second Aaron Hills and has

0:20:15.160 --> 0:20:17.879
<v Speaker 2>not done much besides that. But he's had a phenomenal career.

0:20:17.920 --> 0:20:20.040
<v Speaker 2>Brian Harmon's ranked like twenty fourth in the world right now,

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<v Speaker 2>he's a great player.

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<v Speaker 1>OWG Hars is kind of like not real right now,

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<v Speaker 1>it's here we go, Now we're well. Sepstraca is twenty

0:20:30.200 --> 0:20:33.359
<v Speaker 1>seventh in the world, texted Brenda last night. I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>did you know Sepstraca is twenty seven in the world.

0:20:38.080 --> 0:20:42.760
<v Speaker 1>Guy wearing squares is twenty seven in the world. Any

0:20:42.800 --> 0:20:45.960
<v Speaker 1>other notes on your guys in Tier four that you

0:20:45.960 --> 0:20:47.080
<v Speaker 1>you want to get off.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I'm incredibly high on cam Davis, so I think

0:20:50.920 --> 0:20:53.320
<v Speaker 2>we're aligned on that one. So that was one of

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<v Speaker 2>my notes. One of my main notes was that I

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<v Speaker 2>was going to be extremely complimentary of Hedeki Matsuyama. I

0:20:59.840 --> 0:21:03.880
<v Speaker 2>think you think I'm under rating him. I have fifteen

0:21:03.880 --> 0:21:06.280
<v Speaker 2>golfers ahead of him. But I did want to say

0:21:06.320 --> 0:21:09.800
<v Speaker 2>I think Kadeki Matsuyama is poised for an amazing major

0:21:09.880 --> 0:21:12.280
<v Speaker 2>run this year as long as he's healthy. He's battling

0:21:12.280 --> 0:21:14.639
<v Speaker 2>a neck injury and that's worrisome. But other than that,

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<v Speaker 2>I think I'm good On notes.

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<v Speaker 1>I said one thing I had, you know, one big

0:21:19.520 --> 0:21:25.159
<v Speaker 1>discrepancy is Brooks Kopka, Yeah, I had Brooks. This was

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<v Speaker 1>another one. I had Brooks down here, and then I

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<v Speaker 1>couldn't ignore, like, you know, just a year last year

0:21:33.400 --> 0:21:36.240
<v Speaker 1>he was bad. The year before he had three top

0:21:36.320 --> 0:21:37.560
<v Speaker 1>five You know.

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<v Speaker 2>My own opinion, and I think people we may just

0:21:41.640 --> 0:21:43.320
<v Speaker 2>not see eye to eye one hundred percent on this one.

0:21:43.400 --> 0:21:46.320
<v Speaker 2>I don't put that much stock in how somebody's done

0:21:46.320 --> 0:21:49.719
<v Speaker 2>in a major in the past. That may be relevant

0:21:49.720 --> 0:21:51.879
<v Speaker 2>when we talk about somebody like Patrick Cantley, who I'm

0:21:51.960 --> 0:21:56.760
<v Speaker 2>very high on, but Brooks having having major success in

0:21:56.800 --> 0:22:00.320
<v Speaker 2>the past. If he's spraying his driver like he is

0:22:00.400 --> 0:22:02.960
<v Speaker 2>right now, like, that's not it's not just going to

0:22:03.080 --> 0:22:06.400
<v Speaker 2>magically change. So I'm a little bit lower on Brooks.

0:22:06.440 --> 0:22:10.280
<v Speaker 2>The injuries are concerned. If he wins one, it wouldn't

0:22:10.359 --> 0:22:12.720
<v Speaker 2>shock me. But if you told me that this upcoming

0:22:12.800 --> 0:22:14.800
<v Speaker 2>year he's gonna have three top tens in a major

0:22:14.880 --> 0:22:15.680
<v Speaker 2>I would be shocked.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you know what you've illuminated with Bryson and Brooks

0:22:20.400 --> 0:22:23.600
<v Speaker 1>is the driver getting crooked. And I think, like you,

0:22:24.720 --> 0:22:26.800
<v Speaker 1>if you think about it, is like those were the

0:22:26.880 --> 0:22:30.600
<v Speaker 1>two of the skills that really set them apart. Bryson

0:22:31.520 --> 0:22:35.480
<v Speaker 1>in particular, set them out apart completely. Brooks was all

0:22:35.520 --> 0:22:38.720
<v Speaker 1>around great during his run, but the driver was such

0:22:38.720 --> 0:22:42.679
<v Speaker 1>a weapon, and it's it's kind of like, in a way,

0:22:42.880 --> 0:22:45.760
<v Speaker 1>it's rare to see. I mean, I think one of

0:22:45.800 --> 0:22:48.000
<v Speaker 1>the things you could point to is like Bubba Watson.

0:22:48.640 --> 0:22:51.640
<v Speaker 1>You know, Bubba's great years correlite really strongly with when

0:22:51.680 --> 0:22:54.520
<v Speaker 1>he drove it really well, you know, like when the

0:22:54.600 --> 0:22:57.200
<v Speaker 1>driver got a little squirrely. But a lot of guys

0:22:57.320 --> 0:23:01.919
<v Speaker 1>are that are great drivers, it's hard to not be

0:23:02.000 --> 0:23:04.719
<v Speaker 1>a great driver once you're a great driver. Does that

0:23:04.760 --> 0:23:06.040
<v Speaker 1>makes sense? Well?

0:23:06.119 --> 0:23:10.119
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And I think one maybe obvious point about a

0:23:10.200 --> 0:23:12.879
<v Speaker 2>driver is it's the only time every person has the

0:23:12.920 --> 0:23:15.480
<v Speaker 2>same lie the ball is on a tee. And I

0:23:15.520 --> 0:23:19.360
<v Speaker 2>think that that does actually provide some information about how

0:23:19.359 --> 0:23:21.960
<v Speaker 2>a player is truly hitting the ball right when you

0:23:22.440 --> 0:23:25.200
<v Speaker 2>that's the only time we're actually comparing apples to apples

0:23:25.200 --> 0:23:28.080
<v Speaker 2>on any shot. Other point I would make though on

0:23:28.880 --> 0:23:31.840
<v Speaker 2>when I'm talking about Bryson, like Bryson, how much he's

0:23:31.840 --> 0:23:35.240
<v Speaker 2>sprang it, We're talking like he is literally dead last

0:23:35.680 --> 0:23:37.440
<v Speaker 2>in any kind of accuracy stat I have. So when

0:23:37.440 --> 0:23:39.960
<v Speaker 2>I say Brooks and Bryson are both spraying it, it's

0:23:40.000 --> 0:23:43.600
<v Speaker 2>still they're on different planets. Brooks can at least keep

0:23:43.600 --> 0:23:46.600
<v Speaker 2>it in bounds. Bryson right now cannot keep the golf

0:23:46.960 --> 0:23:49.560
<v Speaker 2>ball like remotely remotely online.

0:23:50.760 --> 0:23:53.679
<v Speaker 1>Who would have thought that chasing trying to be a

0:23:53.720 --> 0:23:57.560
<v Speaker 1>long drive guy would have an adverse effect on your

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<v Speaker 1>ability to be one of the best professional golfers in

0:24:00.800 --> 0:24:05.640
<v Speaker 1>the world. I think people would be disappointed to see

0:24:05.680 --> 0:24:08.040
<v Speaker 1>Sung Jay here, But I you know, what is it?

0:24:08.119 --> 0:24:11.280
<v Speaker 1>I think obviously Sung Jay I was extremely high on

0:24:11.440 --> 0:24:14.480
<v Speaker 1>like three years ago, and at this point I kind

0:24:14.520 --> 0:24:17.720
<v Speaker 1>of feel like he's developing into just another guy.

0:24:18.480 --> 0:24:19.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, I wrote a piece for the Frida

0:24:20.000 --> 0:24:21.840
<v Speaker 2>egg on Sung Jay. He doesn't have a ton of

0:24:21.840 --> 0:24:25.399
<v Speaker 2>pop with his driver, hits it really straight, but the

0:24:25.400 --> 0:24:28.320
<v Speaker 2>difference between hitting it dead straight and just a little

0:24:28.320 --> 0:24:31.200
<v Speaker 2>bit off isn't as significant at a place like Augusta

0:24:31.359 --> 0:24:34.400
<v Speaker 2>or at LACC. So I think some of these guys

0:24:34.400 --> 0:24:37.520
<v Speaker 2>who hit the ball really short, not Sody's not really short,

0:24:37.680 --> 0:24:40.600
<v Speaker 2>but who don't bomb the ball but hit it dead online,

0:24:41.040 --> 0:24:42.960
<v Speaker 2>that's not going to be as much of an advantage

0:24:43.080 --> 0:24:46.200
<v Speaker 2>at a gout Star LACC as it would be somewhere

0:24:46.240 --> 0:24:49.200
<v Speaker 2>like Sedgefield. So I'd throw Billy Horshell in that category.

0:24:49.240 --> 0:24:52.040
<v Speaker 2>He did not make my list. Tom Kim's in that category.

0:24:52.280 --> 0:24:53.720
<v Speaker 2>Song Jy's in that category as well.

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<v Speaker 1>M h. That's uh all right. I have some guys.

0:24:57.760 --> 0:25:01.200
<v Speaker 1>I didn't have Homa, I didn't have Niemen, I didn't

0:25:01.240 --> 0:25:05.600
<v Speaker 1>have Burger. I think, uh, I mean, I just I'm not.

0:25:06.400 --> 0:25:08.440
<v Speaker 1>I need to see a lot more from them. They'd

0:25:08.440 --> 0:25:11.080
<v Speaker 1>be in the like I need see. That's I guess

0:25:11.119 --> 0:25:13.520
<v Speaker 1>that's where I differ with you. Is like, I think

0:25:13.600 --> 0:25:17.560
<v Speaker 1>majors are completely different animals than tour events, and I

0:25:17.800 --> 0:25:23.080
<v Speaker 1>correlate nothing, no, nothing with like what you did at

0:25:23.119 --> 0:25:28.080
<v Speaker 1>the Safe Way or you know, the butterfield Bermuda with

0:25:28.119 --> 0:25:30.560
<v Speaker 1>what's going to happen in a major championship. I just

0:25:30.560 --> 0:25:32.879
<v Speaker 1>think it's like a completely different form of golf.

0:25:33.080 --> 0:25:36.760
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so that's where at Riviera is just another another

0:25:36.760 --> 0:25:37.520
<v Speaker 2>butterfield to you.

0:25:37.640 --> 0:25:42.199
<v Speaker 1>Huh, that's not what I said. But Neiman, I just

0:25:42.880 --> 0:25:45.040
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I maybe actould. I thought about putting

0:25:45.119 --> 0:25:48.760
<v Speaker 1>Nemen in one of these groups, but again I I

0:25:48.840 --> 0:25:51.920
<v Speaker 1>just didn't don't think he would win one of these.

0:25:52.280 --> 0:25:55.120
<v Speaker 1>I would almost say that I'd expect Mito to win

0:25:55.600 --> 0:25:57.800
<v Speaker 1>more than Niemen, but Meto is not going to be

0:25:58.119 --> 0:25:59.800
<v Speaker 1>exempt to like anything.

0:25:59.840 --> 0:26:02.560
<v Speaker 2>You getting bailed out then, because I do not agree.

0:26:03.520 --> 0:26:05.280
<v Speaker 1>I think he's just better Te de Green.

0:26:05.560 --> 0:26:07.960
<v Speaker 2>Than Joaquin Nemon. I'll take Juaquin Demon Te de Green

0:26:08.040 --> 0:26:09.040
<v Speaker 2>over over Meeto Praira.

0:26:09.640 --> 0:26:12.520
<v Speaker 1>All right, all right, my guy, my guy had a

0:26:12.640 --> 0:26:16.440
<v Speaker 1>chance to win a major. So all right, Tier three.

0:26:16.920 --> 0:26:21.760
<v Speaker 1>These are guys that you know, I in my my thing, like,

0:26:22.359 --> 0:26:25.360
<v Speaker 1>would not it all be surprised if they won? Kind

0:26:25.400 --> 0:26:29.840
<v Speaker 1>of all of them, I would like hope they would

0:26:29.840 --> 0:26:33.240
<v Speaker 1>win one, and I think they can compete at just

0:26:33.280 --> 0:26:36.880
<v Speaker 1>about any course, but some of them have greatly underachieved.

0:26:36.920 --> 0:26:40.840
<v Speaker 1>And leading that list is Patrick Cantley. For me, I've

0:26:40.840 --> 0:26:45.399
<v Speaker 1>got Victor Hovland, Cam Young, Final and Shane Lowry in

0:26:45.480 --> 0:26:47.400
<v Speaker 1>this group. Who's in your Tier three?

0:26:48.200 --> 0:26:51.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we have some overlap here, but I have I

0:26:51.040 --> 0:26:54.520
<v Speaker 2>have ten names in Tier three, that meaning I only

0:26:54.520 --> 0:26:57.760
<v Speaker 2>have five that are ahead of them total. And my

0:26:57.800 --> 0:27:00.320
<v Speaker 2>definition of the third tier was if they're not in

0:27:00.359 --> 0:27:03.080
<v Speaker 2>contention and at least one major this year, probably two,

0:27:03.800 --> 0:27:07.160
<v Speaker 2>it's a disappointing year, like they can win anywhere. Never

0:27:07.240 --> 0:27:09.800
<v Speaker 2>surprised to see them in contention. That's my definition. I

0:27:09.840 --> 0:27:12.800
<v Speaker 2>have can't Ley like you do. I've got Shoftley. I

0:27:12.920 --> 0:27:19.400
<v Speaker 2>viewed those golfers very similarly. Xalatorus Fitzpatrick see now who

0:27:19.440 --> 0:27:23.120
<v Speaker 2>I am incredibly high on. Think he could burn everything

0:27:23.160 --> 0:27:28.280
<v Speaker 2>down this year, Cam Young, Morikawa, Speeth Hoveland and Dustin Johnson.

0:27:29.040 --> 0:27:33.160
<v Speaker 1>Dj I. It's interesting my Tier two and Tier one

0:27:33.320 --> 0:27:38.080
<v Speaker 1>are significantly bigger than your years, and I think my

0:27:38.200 --> 0:27:41.120
<v Speaker 1>Tier three is really small because I ended up putting

0:27:41.200 --> 0:27:44.879
<v Speaker 1>a bunch of guys up into Tier two. After I

0:27:44.880 --> 0:27:47.480
<v Speaker 1>I looked a lot of past success. I think that's

0:27:47.520 --> 0:27:52.840
<v Speaker 1>where the different differentiation is, right. I find it interesting

0:27:52.960 --> 0:27:56.840
<v Speaker 1>that Colin Morikawa is here. That would be the number

0:27:56.880 --> 0:27:59.920
<v Speaker 1>one name that pops off the page, and that is

0:28:00.359 --> 0:28:05.760
<v Speaker 1>based off of his past success. Two wins, five top fives,

0:28:05.800 --> 0:28:08.760
<v Speaker 1>and twelve starts in major championships, and I don't know

0:28:08.800 --> 0:28:12.200
<v Speaker 1>how he doesn't get bumped up to at least Tier

0:28:12.240 --> 0:28:14.359
<v Speaker 1>one or Tier two based off of that.

0:28:14.800 --> 0:28:16.480
<v Speaker 2>Well, I mean, to an extent, I think it depends

0:28:16.480 --> 0:28:19.960
<v Speaker 2>on how many people you have in those tiers. When

0:28:20.000 --> 0:28:22.159
<v Speaker 2>I view the landscape of golf right now, I do

0:28:22.240 --> 0:28:26.280
<v Speaker 2>think there are five golfers who are above any of

0:28:26.320 --> 0:28:28.399
<v Speaker 2>the rest, and I do not think Calmar Kaba is

0:28:28.440 --> 0:28:32.520
<v Speaker 2>currently in that category, but he's really good. He and

0:28:32.560 --> 0:28:35.680
<v Speaker 2>Fi now are really close to jumping up there, as

0:28:35.680 --> 0:28:38.120
<v Speaker 2>Alexander and Patrick Cantlay. But I think there are five

0:28:38.160 --> 0:28:40.360
<v Speaker 2>golfers that I would take. I would give you more

0:28:40.440 --> 0:28:42.920
<v Speaker 2>Kawa versus any one of them head to head for

0:28:43.120 --> 0:28:44.200
<v Speaker 2>the Majors this year.

0:28:44.840 --> 0:28:48.520
<v Speaker 1>So it's interesting I move Markawa up from Tier two

0:28:48.760 --> 0:28:51.840
<v Speaker 1>to Tier one when I looked at the stats and

0:28:52.680 --> 0:28:55.680
<v Speaker 1>my five were the same five as your top two

0:28:55.760 --> 0:28:58.479
<v Speaker 1>and the Tier one, and I do agree with that

0:28:58.560 --> 0:29:02.520
<v Speaker 1>premise to a certain extent. I just think that right now,

0:29:03.080 --> 0:29:07.120
<v Speaker 1>the cold takes on Marikawa are a bit of an overreaction.

0:29:07.640 --> 0:29:10.840
<v Speaker 1>And you know, I think like at Kapellua, he showed

0:29:10.920 --> 0:29:14.800
<v Speaker 1>like through sixty three holes. How like, I think he's

0:29:15.000 --> 0:29:17.040
<v Speaker 1>about as good of a golfer as there is when

0:29:17.040 --> 0:29:20.080
<v Speaker 1>he's on, and I think that that would put him

0:29:20.080 --> 0:29:23.160
<v Speaker 1>into that same bucket as all the other guys. So

0:29:23.320 --> 0:29:25.960
<v Speaker 1>Finaw is the guy that you're you're high on and

0:29:26.120 --> 0:29:29.680
<v Speaker 1>if you you know, like, what, what's the statistical case

0:29:29.720 --> 0:29:30.480
<v Speaker 1>for Tony Finow?

0:29:31.160 --> 0:29:33.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the statistical case for Tony Finow who has been

0:29:34.320 --> 0:29:39.040
<v Speaker 2>fine in majors. He has been since last May one

0:29:39.120 --> 0:29:41.240
<v Speaker 2>of the best drivers of the golf ball in the world.

0:29:41.480 --> 0:29:46.400
<v Speaker 2>He became an extremely accurate driver going back to right

0:29:46.480 --> 0:29:52.000
<v Speaker 2>about last mid May, really long hits, good irons, has

0:29:52.040 --> 0:29:53.959
<v Speaker 2>a great short game. He's been putting well. He has

0:29:54.000 --> 0:29:56.720
<v Speaker 2>been one of the best golfers in the world over

0:29:56.760 --> 0:30:00.240
<v Speaker 2>the past six to eight months. He's won a couple

0:30:00.320 --> 0:30:04.640
<v Speaker 2>of times. I don't I don't really see any holes

0:30:04.640 --> 0:30:07.360
<v Speaker 2>in his game. He's basically become like a rom off

0:30:07.400 --> 0:30:09.760
<v Speaker 2>the tee, a little shorter, but pretty much a rom

0:30:09.800 --> 0:30:11.400
<v Speaker 2>off the tee, and if he I think the only

0:30:11.400 --> 0:30:14.320
<v Speaker 2>reason he's shorter is because he restrains himself a little bit.

0:30:14.840 --> 0:30:16.920
<v Speaker 2>I think Tony fen Now, there are a million reasons

0:30:16.920 --> 0:30:19.760
<v Speaker 2>to be bullish. Wouldn't be surprised if you want a

0:30:19.800 --> 0:30:22.600
<v Speaker 2>major this year at all. I'm so high on him.

0:30:23.240 --> 0:30:25.640
<v Speaker 1>The thing that always goes overlooked, And I think this

0:30:25.880 --> 0:30:29.200
<v Speaker 1>happens with a lot of like great players, you know,

0:30:29.280 --> 0:30:31.800
<v Speaker 1>if you think down the line of like he's not

0:30:32.160 --> 0:30:36.200
<v Speaker 1>a great player anymore, but Sergio Garcia, Hideki Mastayama would

0:30:36.240 --> 0:30:39.360
<v Speaker 1>fall into this bucket, Brooks Kopka would fall in this bucket,

0:30:39.360 --> 0:30:43.280
<v Speaker 1>and Tony Finow is like terrific short games, like those

0:30:43.280 --> 0:30:46.880
<v Speaker 1>guys around the Greens are are like world class, but

0:30:46.960 --> 0:30:50.520
<v Speaker 1>they it never gets talked about because of other ancillary skills.

0:30:50.520 --> 0:30:53.200
<v Speaker 1>And with Fenw it's always the thing that people are

0:30:53.240 --> 0:30:55.840
<v Speaker 1>always going to talk about is the driver. But he

0:30:55.920 --> 0:30:59.160
<v Speaker 1>drives it well. He's a really good iron player and

0:30:59.200 --> 0:31:01.719
<v Speaker 1>he's got great short game, and I think, you know,

0:31:01.840 --> 0:31:05.080
<v Speaker 1>like when you put that together, he kind of falls

0:31:05.120 --> 0:31:08.560
<v Speaker 1>into that bucket of like if the putter's okay, he's

0:31:08.600 --> 0:31:11.680
<v Speaker 1>going to be in in the top five, like that's

0:31:11.720 --> 0:31:15.880
<v Speaker 1>Almos It's almost like his week is determined by the

0:31:15.920 --> 0:31:18.560
<v Speaker 1>relative nature of his putter, and it just has to

0:31:18.600 --> 0:31:21.160
<v Speaker 1>be a little bit better than average for him to

0:31:21.200 --> 0:31:22.200
<v Speaker 1>pile up wins.

0:31:22.480 --> 0:31:24.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I don't think they're too many golfers, even if

0:31:24.880 --> 0:31:27.560
<v Speaker 2>it's not the strongest field. Who can blow a field

0:31:27.640 --> 0:31:29.920
<v Speaker 2>out right now, Tony Fenales on that list.

0:31:30.800 --> 0:31:32.080
<v Speaker 1>Who else would be on that list?

0:31:33.000 --> 0:31:36.320
<v Speaker 2>Rory Rahm, justin Thomas, Scottie Scheffler.

0:31:37.680 --> 0:31:39.680
<v Speaker 1>I think Mori Kawa has to be. He was blowing

0:31:39.680 --> 0:31:40.840
<v Speaker 1>out of the field of the century.

0:31:40.920 --> 0:31:42.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he's He's right there. He's in the back of

0:31:42.920 --> 0:31:44.720
<v Speaker 2>my mind. To be clear, I came away with a

0:31:44.800 --> 0:31:48.840
<v Speaker 2>much more positive with a positive impression from Marikawa after

0:31:48.920 --> 0:31:51.240
<v Speaker 2>Kapa Loua. I am not going down though, like he

0:31:51.320 --> 0:31:53.120
<v Speaker 2>choked it away. I'm worried about him. I have a

0:31:53.200 --> 0:31:55.040
<v Speaker 2>very high opinion of Mari Kaala. I think part of

0:31:55.040 --> 0:31:56.680
<v Speaker 2>where this comes from is he's giving up a lot

0:31:56.720 --> 0:31:58.960
<v Speaker 2>of distance off the tea to these guys. I understand

0:31:59.200 --> 0:32:01.360
<v Speaker 2>that he's an e lee iron player, but when you

0:32:01.400 --> 0:32:06.400
<v Speaker 2>are playing from behind names like Rory John Rahm and

0:32:06.440 --> 0:32:10.320
<v Speaker 2>the putter, it can be pretty inconsistent. Man, iron game's

0:32:10.320 --> 0:32:11.240
<v Speaker 2>got to be really on.

0:32:12.600 --> 0:32:15.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and it can be like That's the thing about

0:32:15.480 --> 0:32:17.360
<v Speaker 1>it is like it can be so good that it,

0:32:18.040 --> 0:32:22.160
<v Speaker 1>you know, it renders everything kind of irrelevant because of

0:32:22.200 --> 0:32:36.760
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<v Speaker 1>it's you know, the tears are it makes an interesting thing.

0:34:26.840 --> 0:34:30.480
<v Speaker 1>And I guess like I had separated can't Lay and

0:34:30.680 --> 0:34:34.960
<v Speaker 1>Xander based off of just purely what they've done in majors.

0:34:35.120 --> 0:34:37.400
<v Speaker 1>You know, one of the things I think was Xander

0:34:37.480 --> 0:34:41.319
<v Speaker 1>I wonder about was like, was his first you know,

0:34:41.480 --> 0:34:45.959
<v Speaker 1>four years of majors more of an aberration and last year,

0:34:46.560 --> 0:34:48.920
<v Speaker 1>you know, it was the worst major year he's ever had,

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<v Speaker 1>Like where's the balance? Was that just a you know

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<v Speaker 1>that that was just bound to happen was he going

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<v Speaker 1>to have a mediocre major year or and then the

0:34:58.920 --> 0:35:01.759
<v Speaker 1>other thing with can't le It's like, you know, is

0:35:01.800 --> 0:35:05.239
<v Speaker 1>this just a statistical anomaly that he's been completely irrelevant

0:35:05.360 --> 0:35:08.239
<v Speaker 1>given that, Like he's been a top ten player in

0:35:08.239 --> 0:35:11.080
<v Speaker 1>the world now for four years in a row running, but.

0:35:11.000 --> 0:35:13.719
<v Speaker 2>We're not talking about that many events. I will die

0:35:13.760 --> 0:35:17.040
<v Speaker 2>on the hill that Patrick Cantlay is fine in majors

0:35:17.080 --> 0:35:18.839
<v Speaker 2>going forward, And if somebody wants to take the other

0:35:18.880 --> 0:35:21.799
<v Speaker 2>side of that, have at it. What is the thesis

0:35:22.160 --> 0:35:24.759
<v Speaker 2>for why Patrick Cantlay doesn't play well in majors? Is

0:35:24.800 --> 0:35:27.200
<v Speaker 2>it that he shows up and he gets so nervous

0:35:27.239 --> 0:35:29.080
<v Speaker 2>he can't play. Like, if somebody can't give me a

0:35:29.120 --> 0:35:31.360
<v Speaker 2>reason for why he's not going to play well in majors,

0:35:31.400 --> 0:35:34.360
<v Speaker 2>I'll take give me the can't lay side. He's fine.

0:35:34.920 --> 0:35:38.480
<v Speaker 1>Well. I was with a major champion once and I

0:35:39.000 --> 0:35:42.160
<v Speaker 1>asked him about, you know, this was a player that

0:35:42.400 --> 0:35:46.839
<v Speaker 1>no longer is on these lists, and he said, some

0:35:46.920 --> 0:35:49.879
<v Speaker 1>guys just don't have it, some guys just can't get

0:35:49.920 --> 0:35:52.000
<v Speaker 1>it done when it really matters. And I think if

0:35:52.000 --> 0:35:55.520
<v Speaker 1>you look at like Davis Love obviously got it done,

0:35:55.680 --> 0:35:58.200
<v Speaker 1>but I think everybody would say that Davis Love's career

0:35:58.440 --> 0:36:01.600
<v Speaker 1>in majors was like a disappoint which is crazy because

0:36:01.600 --> 0:36:04.680
<v Speaker 1>he won twice, right, but like one of the things,

0:36:04.680 --> 0:36:08.120
<v Speaker 1>he won a ton the week after, and for some

0:36:08.239 --> 0:36:11.520
<v Speaker 1>people it's like that moment is too big and something

0:36:11.560 --> 0:36:14.920
<v Speaker 1>about it psychs them out. And I get it, like that,

0:36:15.920 --> 0:36:18.359
<v Speaker 1>there is like a certain gravity of it, right, It's

0:36:18.400 --> 0:36:21.600
<v Speaker 1>really hard, and I think that's where like you've seen

0:36:21.680 --> 0:36:25.080
<v Speaker 1>Rory go through these mental gymnastics, right, the juggling, the

0:36:25.160 --> 0:36:28.200
<v Speaker 1>reading a lot of books, the different things, like all

0:36:28.239 --> 0:36:30.960
<v Speaker 1>the different ways that he's tried to prep for AUGUSTA.

0:36:31.200 --> 0:36:36.560
<v Speaker 1>It's really hard when you have to prep for something

0:36:36.640 --> 0:36:39.280
<v Speaker 1>and you and some people prep differently and it works

0:36:39.280 --> 0:36:41.879
<v Speaker 1>for him, but others, like when you put so much

0:36:41.960 --> 0:36:44.960
<v Speaker 1>weight on it, they need to treat it just like

0:36:45.000 --> 0:36:48.200
<v Speaker 1>another week. And I sometimes wonder if that is something

0:36:48.239 --> 0:36:51.640
<v Speaker 1>that like with can't lay like it doesn't make any sense.

0:36:51.719 --> 0:36:56.319
<v Speaker 1>I'm totally with you, and like it's frustrating because he

0:36:56.400 --> 0:36:59.120
<v Speaker 1>came out of the gates. He had that t three

0:36:59.160 --> 0:37:02.600
<v Speaker 1>early in his career in majors, and you're like, Okay,

0:37:02.640 --> 0:37:05.320
<v Speaker 1>this guy is going to be like a major champion,

0:37:05.560 --> 0:37:08.239
<v Speaker 1>like specialist like you look at his game and you

0:37:08.280 --> 0:37:11.400
<v Speaker 1>don't know why it would ever not work at a major,

0:37:11.440 --> 0:37:14.600
<v Speaker 1>Like I tend to believe, and I think this is

0:37:14.800 --> 0:37:18.520
<v Speaker 1>a pretty common thread through all of the players that

0:37:18.840 --> 0:37:22.200
<v Speaker 1>you know, the top five players really that we've highlighted

0:37:22.239 --> 0:37:25.720
<v Speaker 1>which we haven't gotten to, but are Rory John Rahm,

0:37:26.239 --> 0:37:30.120
<v Speaker 1>Justin Thomas Scheffler, camp Smith. Like those guys, if you

0:37:30.160 --> 0:37:33.719
<v Speaker 1>look at their games, it's very hard to find like

0:37:33.760 --> 0:37:38.279
<v Speaker 1>a discernible weakness. Obviously Putter can be a little bit

0:37:38.320 --> 0:37:42.080
<v Speaker 1>of an issue for JT and Ram, but outside of that,

0:37:42.320 --> 0:37:44.840
<v Speaker 1>like camp Smith can be a little squirrely with the driver.

0:37:44.960 --> 0:37:48.560
<v Speaker 1>For the most part, those guys don't have weaknesses. And

0:37:48.640 --> 0:37:51.799
<v Speaker 1>you think about Cantlay, it's like that's who Patrick Cantlay is.

0:37:52.280 --> 0:37:55.280
<v Speaker 1>He is like just a very very well rounded player.

0:37:56.120 --> 0:37:59.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I will not push back on there being something

0:38:00.040 --> 0:38:03.000
<v Speaker 2>different about major championships. I'm not trying to equate BMW

0:38:03.120 --> 0:38:06.560
<v Speaker 2>championships with majors. Believe me, I do not feel that way.

0:38:07.280 --> 0:38:10.000
<v Speaker 2>But I think the assumption then is that Patrick Canlay

0:38:10.040 --> 0:38:12.040
<v Speaker 2>is psyching himself out, and so that that's where I

0:38:12.080 --> 0:38:15.800
<v Speaker 2>would say, are you willing to say Patrick Cantlay is

0:38:15.800 --> 0:38:18.440
<v Speaker 2>psyching himself out he doesn't have it, he doesn't have

0:38:18.520 --> 0:38:21.319
<v Speaker 2>what it mentally takes. Because to me, he does have it,

0:38:21.600 --> 0:38:24.000
<v Speaker 2>and he talks like a person that has it, and

0:38:24.040 --> 0:38:26.160
<v Speaker 2>I have a lot of confidence when he tees it up.

0:38:26.200 --> 0:38:29.960
<v Speaker 2>So I think sometimes somebody's only played fifteen majors, like

0:38:30.000 --> 0:38:33.640
<v Speaker 2>why that's not that's not one hundred, that's not two hundred,

0:38:33.760 --> 0:38:35.200
<v Speaker 2>Like give him a chance.

0:38:36.120 --> 0:38:39.160
<v Speaker 1>I think this is like something that has really changed

0:38:39.200 --> 0:38:46.880
<v Speaker 1>about professional golf. Also is the instant gratification, the instant success,

0:38:46.960 --> 0:38:51.640
<v Speaker 1>and you know, like the idea that these guys now,

0:38:52.000 --> 0:38:55.520
<v Speaker 1>you know, it used to be that like you're fully

0:38:55.560 --> 0:38:59.719
<v Speaker 1>formed golfer when you're thirty five, and now like at

0:38:59.760 --> 0:39:03.440
<v Speaker 1>this point now in golf, if you're thirty five year old,

0:39:03.719 --> 0:39:07.280
<v Speaker 1>you know. And I think that's something to keep in mind,

0:39:07.400 --> 0:39:10.880
<v Speaker 1>is that I think we're going to see late bloomers still,

0:39:11.000 --> 0:39:14.360
<v Speaker 1>Like there is going to be major champions that pop

0:39:14.480 --> 0:39:18.440
<v Speaker 1>up that weren't great at age twenty five or great

0:39:18.480 --> 0:39:21.120
<v Speaker 1>major players at twenty five and figure it out later.

0:39:21.920 --> 0:39:25.640
<v Speaker 1>Like somebody that jumps to mind for me is he's

0:39:25.680 --> 0:39:29.880
<v Speaker 1>thirty three, Tom Hogy. I think it's a really good golfer.

0:39:30.239 --> 0:39:33.160
<v Speaker 1>And I didn't want to, you know, Like, I just think,

0:39:33.239 --> 0:39:36.000
<v Speaker 1>like you know, if Tom Hogy's in the hunt at

0:39:36.000 --> 0:39:39.239
<v Speaker 1>a major, I'm not surprised at all because he's he's

0:39:39.280 --> 0:39:42.399
<v Speaker 1>a very good iron player and stuff. But he's thirty three,

0:39:42.520 --> 0:39:46.680
<v Speaker 1>and nobody is like excited and hyped on him the

0:39:46.719 --> 0:39:50.839
<v Speaker 1>way they are with Tom Kim right because he's thirty three.

0:39:51.800 --> 0:39:54.759
<v Speaker 2>Oh, I'm gonna I'm not letting you off the hook here,

0:39:55.400 --> 0:39:58.319
<v Speaker 2>all right. If what's if what's so big to you

0:39:58.440 --> 0:40:00.960
<v Speaker 2>is is success in major champion and you're this high

0:40:00.960 --> 0:40:03.680
<v Speaker 2>on Tom Hogy, help me get there to where you

0:40:03.719 --> 0:40:05.399
<v Speaker 2>will not be surprised to see him on the first

0:40:05.400 --> 0:40:07.200
<v Speaker 2>page of a leader board come Sunday this year.

0:40:07.520 --> 0:40:10.800
<v Speaker 1>He's a late bloomer. He doesn't fight in any majors,

0:40:11.480 --> 0:40:13.799
<v Speaker 1>all right, so he's just getting his feet wet. It's

0:40:13.840 --> 0:40:16.480
<v Speaker 1>like the tour, his tour career. I think, like some

0:40:16.560 --> 0:40:18.600
<v Speaker 1>guys like and I think this is what's gonna be

0:40:19.280 --> 0:40:21.480
<v Speaker 1>this guy. I don't think like you know, I think

0:40:21.480 --> 0:40:23.640
<v Speaker 1>there are gonna be guys that have Like if you

0:40:23.680 --> 0:40:26.600
<v Speaker 1>look at the careers of guys, right, there's like a

0:40:26.640 --> 0:40:29.680
<v Speaker 1>lot of buckets of there's you have, like your all

0:40:29.719 --> 0:40:33.680
<v Speaker 1>time greats, and that's like Rory is in there where

0:40:33.840 --> 0:40:37.680
<v Speaker 1>they span decades, and I think John Rahm is probably

0:40:37.680 --> 0:40:41.360
<v Speaker 1>a guy that's heading there. JT is heading there. I

0:40:41.400 --> 0:40:44.200
<v Speaker 1>don't know about Scheffler, Like I don't think we've seen

0:40:44.320 --> 0:40:47.200
<v Speaker 1>enough of the body of work from Scheffler. But you

0:40:47.280 --> 0:40:51.640
<v Speaker 1>have these guys that span decades. Then you have guys

0:40:52.080 --> 0:40:54.880
<v Speaker 1>that are like they had a nice ten year run.

0:40:56.200 --> 0:40:58.759
<v Speaker 1>Then you have guys that have like really nice five

0:40:58.840 --> 0:41:02.440
<v Speaker 1>year runs, and then you have guys like Nick Watney

0:41:02.920 --> 0:41:05.720
<v Speaker 1>where for three years they were a top ten player

0:41:05.760 --> 0:41:12.000
<v Speaker 1>in the world, right, And I think like from that standpoint,

0:41:12.200 --> 0:41:15.600
<v Speaker 1>you're going to have late bloomers that pop in in

0:41:15.640 --> 0:41:20.640
<v Speaker 1>their their thirties, like early thirties, that have really good

0:41:20.640 --> 0:41:23.919
<v Speaker 1>three year runs. And that's my case for a guy

0:41:23.960 --> 0:41:26.399
<v Speaker 1>like Tom Hoky. So I would believe that I'm making

0:41:26.440 --> 0:41:27.000
<v Speaker 1>this case.

0:41:27.200 --> 0:41:29.960
<v Speaker 2>I'm going to take the other side of this, and

0:41:30.000 --> 0:41:32.960
<v Speaker 2>I'm going to say high conviction. I think something that's

0:41:32.960 --> 0:41:35.520
<v Speaker 2>happening across sports, and I would love to see a

0:41:35.600 --> 0:41:38.360
<v Speaker 2>robust study on this unpack this further. I think you

0:41:38.400 --> 0:41:43.760
<v Speaker 2>are seeing people in their late thirties in particular across

0:41:43.800 --> 0:41:48.360
<v Speaker 2>sports with the speed revolution in every sport, their careers ending,

0:41:48.600 --> 0:41:52.560
<v Speaker 2>and you've got Tom Brady. I don't Aaron Rodgers right,

0:41:52.880 --> 0:41:53.680
<v Speaker 2>not great years.

0:41:54.360 --> 0:41:57.400
<v Speaker 1>Lebron is obviously the outliar.

0:41:57.600 --> 0:42:00.200
<v Speaker 2>And I think in golf something that's happened is that

0:42:00.320 --> 0:42:01.080
<v Speaker 2>it's becoming.

0:42:01.280 --> 0:42:06.200
<v Speaker 1>Hold on Tom Brady. Tom Brady's forty six. Yeah, I

0:42:06.280 --> 0:42:10.120
<v Speaker 1>understand it's forty six playing football. All I'm saying.

0:42:10.160 --> 0:42:13.160
<v Speaker 2>My only point is in golf there has been a

0:42:13.200 --> 0:42:16.280
<v Speaker 2>speed revolution. I think it's gotten a little bit easier

0:42:16.360 --> 0:42:18.479
<v Speaker 2>to optimize some of the other parts of your game

0:42:18.560 --> 0:42:21.480
<v Speaker 2>with things like track man, and you have to have

0:42:21.719 --> 0:42:23.920
<v Speaker 2>everything to win a major. Now you have to have

0:42:23.960 --> 0:42:25.879
<v Speaker 2>the speed, you've got to be an elite iron player,

0:42:25.880 --> 0:42:27.880
<v Speaker 2>and you've got a putt well that week. I don't

0:42:27.920 --> 0:42:30.840
<v Speaker 2>think you're going to see too many players who find

0:42:30.880 --> 0:42:34.399
<v Speaker 2>it between the age of thirty two and thirty eight

0:42:34.440 --> 0:42:37.719
<v Speaker 2>and then have success in majors. It's not impossible, but

0:42:38.080 --> 0:42:40.839
<v Speaker 2>I would give another example like Jason Day. I don't

0:42:40.840 --> 0:42:44.759
<v Speaker 2>think Jason Day is going to rEFInd things and then

0:42:45.440 --> 0:42:47.600
<v Speaker 2>win a major again in the next couple of years.

0:42:47.640 --> 0:42:49.560
<v Speaker 2>I really think it's it's much harder to be somebody

0:42:49.600 --> 0:42:51.520
<v Speaker 2>who's on in your mid thirties.

0:42:51.960 --> 0:42:54.239
<v Speaker 1>I would you know, I guess one of the things

0:42:54.239 --> 0:42:57.000
<v Speaker 1>I would think I would think about with that is

0:42:58.200 --> 0:43:03.239
<v Speaker 1>Pebble Beach where it's shorter. And you know, you like,

0:43:03.400 --> 0:43:08.839
<v Speaker 1>different different major setups might yield different things, right, So

0:43:09.080 --> 0:43:12.759
<v Speaker 1>like this year at Okhill, I don't and and I

0:43:12.800 --> 0:43:16.120
<v Speaker 1>mean l A is gonna play super short. That's the

0:43:16.120 --> 0:43:19.080
<v Speaker 1>one thing I will say is that golf course is

0:43:19.120 --> 0:43:20.319
<v Speaker 1>not going to play long.

0:43:21.719 --> 0:43:24.960
<v Speaker 2>There's some yeah, there's there's some long holes out there,

0:43:24.960 --> 0:43:26.799
<v Speaker 2>but I'm with you. Conditions are going to be a

0:43:26.840 --> 0:43:29.200
<v Speaker 2>really big part of how l a CC plays.

0:43:29.120 --> 0:43:33.040
<v Speaker 1>Whether or not rain. I think, yeah, it's gonna be firm.

0:43:33.200 --> 0:43:36.120
<v Speaker 1>There's it's not going to rain. It doesn't rain in June, right,

0:43:36.560 --> 0:43:38.600
<v Speaker 1>I think the big one of the big things with

0:43:38.800 --> 0:43:41.520
<v Speaker 1>l A is going is there going to be are

0:43:41.560 --> 0:43:43.759
<v Speaker 1>you gonna get that marine layer? You know, are you

0:43:43.800 --> 0:43:47.000
<v Speaker 1>gonna get that June gloom that keeps moisture in the

0:43:47.000 --> 0:43:50.560
<v Speaker 1>golf course in the mornings in particular, And that'll be

0:43:50.760 --> 0:43:53.399
<v Speaker 1>a big, big factor. But I think that golf course

0:43:53.400 --> 0:43:55.880
<v Speaker 1>plays pretty short, to be completely honest. I mean it,

0:43:56.400 --> 0:43:58.640
<v Speaker 1>the ball moves out there, right, and there's some big

0:43:58.680 --> 0:44:03.120
<v Speaker 1>slopes and uh, and I don't like that one. I

0:44:03.160 --> 0:44:06.080
<v Speaker 1>think that's going to be such a different US Open.

0:44:07.200 --> 0:44:10.680
<v Speaker 1>I think it might play a little bit more Augustina

0:44:10.840 --> 0:44:13.560
<v Speaker 1>nationally for sure than US Opening.

0:44:14.239 --> 0:44:18.000
<v Speaker 2>Where for me this is I'm viewing the US Open

0:44:18.040 --> 0:44:20.680
<v Speaker 2>and the Masters very similarly this year. To me, that's

0:44:20.680 --> 0:44:23.240
<v Speaker 2>a Cam Smith golf course. Yeah.

0:44:23.440 --> 0:44:28.719
<v Speaker 1>Cam Smith is such a man. He he's such a

0:44:28.719 --> 0:44:33.560
<v Speaker 1>fun player. I'm curious this is they'll be seeing him

0:44:33.600 --> 0:44:36.640
<v Speaker 1>play the majors after a seasonal Live and like I

0:44:36.840 --> 0:44:39.799
<v Speaker 1>you know, it's going to be one of the big

0:44:39.800 --> 0:44:43.520
<v Speaker 1>storylines I think going into every major because you know, like,

0:44:43.560 --> 0:44:46.680
<v Speaker 1>how do you I mean, if he doesn't dominate on LIV,

0:44:46.760 --> 0:44:49.799
<v Speaker 1>how do you feel about him going into these these events? Right?

0:44:50.480 --> 0:44:52.160
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think it's going to be very difficult to

0:44:52.200 --> 0:44:54.520
<v Speaker 2>know with all of these guys. And if there are

0:44:54.560 --> 0:44:57.080
<v Speaker 2>three players, I think there are three live players that

0:44:57.120 --> 0:45:00.920
<v Speaker 2>I don't really worry about this affecting their mentality. Stustin Johnson,

0:45:00.960 --> 0:45:03.200
<v Speaker 2>Cam Smith, and Patrick Reid. I don't think they play

0:45:03.239 --> 0:45:06.120
<v Speaker 2>any differently whether they're on Live or on the PGA Tour.

0:45:06.280 --> 0:45:09.719
<v Speaker 2>If they're keeping their games sharp everyone else like a

0:45:09.800 --> 0:45:12.920
<v Speaker 2>Taylor Dutch, I'd be shocked if he keeps his game

0:45:13.000 --> 0:45:13.560
<v Speaker 2>up to snuff.

0:45:14.080 --> 0:45:18.040
<v Speaker 1>So DJ's in your third bucket and he's in my second.

0:45:18.200 --> 0:45:22.080
<v Speaker 1>But my kind of notes on him are are we

0:45:22.120 --> 0:45:25.120
<v Speaker 1>in the decline of his career at this point? We're

0:45:25.200 --> 0:45:27.799
<v Speaker 1>definitely on the backside of DJ. I thought I thought

0:45:27.800 --> 0:45:31.440
<v Speaker 1>we were there three years ago that he won the Masters,

0:45:31.480 --> 0:45:33.120
<v Speaker 1>and I kind of felt like an idiot and had

0:45:33.120 --> 0:45:36.759
<v Speaker 1>a great year. But you started to see is it

0:45:36.960 --> 0:45:40.400
<v Speaker 1>just that he's losing his like kind of unicorn status

0:45:40.400 --> 0:45:41.600
<v Speaker 1>of a driver of golf ball.

0:45:42.880 --> 0:45:45.160
<v Speaker 2>I think it's a fascinating question. This is something I

0:45:45.160 --> 0:45:46.480
<v Speaker 2>wanted to bring up, Like, I think one of the

0:45:46.480 --> 0:45:49.120
<v Speaker 2>most interesting questions this year is how motivated is Dustin

0:45:49.200 --> 0:45:52.800
<v Speaker 2>Johnson to golf? I actually think it's a really interesting question.

0:45:53.200 --> 0:45:55.280
<v Speaker 2>And if you if you were, like, win the Masters

0:45:55.320 --> 0:45:57.719
<v Speaker 2>this year and be like, hell, yeah, I care, like

0:45:57.760 --> 0:45:59.880
<v Speaker 2>I've been grinding. I think that would be such a

0:46:00.200 --> 0:46:03.239
<v Speaker 2>cool insight into who DJ is because I actually think

0:46:03.840 --> 0:46:07.360
<v Speaker 2>he does care more than he maybe lets on. I

0:46:08.320 --> 0:46:11.799
<v Speaker 2>don't think he's done, but he was spraying the ball

0:46:11.880 --> 0:46:14.680
<v Speaker 2>last year. I could see a lot of different outcomes

0:46:14.680 --> 0:46:18.000
<v Speaker 2>for DJ this year. He easily easily could be in

0:46:18.040 --> 0:46:21.759
<v Speaker 2>contention come Sunday at either LACC or a gust that

0:46:21.760 --> 0:46:23.520
<v Speaker 2>wouldn't shock me. The other two would surprise me a

0:46:23.520 --> 0:46:25.520
<v Speaker 2>little bit more. But one of those first two I

0:46:25.520 --> 0:46:26.520
<v Speaker 2>think he could be there.

0:46:27.040 --> 0:46:31.200
<v Speaker 1>The what's what's this correlation with going to live and

0:46:31.239 --> 0:46:33.840
<v Speaker 1>then also not being able to control the driver?

0:46:34.360 --> 0:46:37.399
<v Speaker 2>That's they they were having that issue before they went

0:46:37.440 --> 0:46:41.160
<v Speaker 2>to live. This is I hope we don't have some

0:46:41.239 --> 0:46:45.040
<v Speaker 2>kind of revisionist history where people forget that almost all

0:46:45.080 --> 0:46:47.440
<v Speaker 2>of the players who went to live were seeing downturns

0:46:47.440 --> 0:46:48.880
<v Speaker 2>in their career before they signed.

0:46:49.440 --> 0:46:52.920
<v Speaker 1>So with Fitzi, he's a guy. He's a perfect example

0:46:52.960 --> 0:46:55.279
<v Speaker 1>of a guy that you want Sung Dam and Tom

0:46:55.360 --> 0:47:01.160
<v Speaker 1>Kim to become game speed and you know, retain what

0:47:01.520 --> 0:47:04.640
<v Speaker 1>made you really good golfer before. And I guess, like,

0:47:06.239 --> 0:47:10.520
<v Speaker 1>how close is FITZI to moving up into the upper

0:47:10.560 --> 0:47:11.600
<v Speaker 1>ash line of golf.

0:47:12.239 --> 0:47:16.440
<v Speaker 2>He's minor improvement with his irons away from moving up

0:47:16.440 --> 0:47:18.759
<v Speaker 2>into that upper a schelane of golf. I have said

0:47:18.760 --> 0:47:20.160
<v Speaker 2>that I think at the end of this year he

0:47:20.200 --> 0:47:22.000
<v Speaker 2>will be in the top five of the official World

0:47:22.040 --> 0:47:25.080
<v Speaker 2>Golf rankings. Yet I don't have him in my top

0:47:25.120 --> 0:47:28.120
<v Speaker 2>five year. The reason for that is that major championships

0:47:28.120 --> 0:47:30.200
<v Speaker 2>are going to be more demanding on your irons than

0:47:31.160 --> 0:47:32.920
<v Speaker 2>a lot of other courses he's going to see throughout

0:47:32.920 --> 0:47:35.440
<v Speaker 2>the year. So I like Matt Fitzpatrick on a PGA

0:47:35.520 --> 0:47:37.920
<v Speaker 2>Tour schedule more than I like him at LACC.

0:47:38.160 --> 0:47:40.000
<v Speaker 1>Still has a lot of PGA Tour event.

0:47:40.800 --> 0:47:43.759
<v Speaker 2>Give he's he hasn't been an absolutely elite golfer for

0:47:43.880 --> 0:47:45.040
<v Speaker 2>very long. Give him a year.

0:47:48.280 --> 0:47:52.480
<v Speaker 1>Xalataurus obviously three runner ups in nine starts in majors

0:47:52.840 --> 0:47:56.719
<v Speaker 1>is you know, I guess like he's one that I

0:47:56.719 --> 0:47:59.600
<v Speaker 1>would look at in terms of jumping up to this.

0:47:59.600 --> 0:48:02.680
<v Speaker 1>This is I think this is the quinn essential major player. Though,

0:48:03.040 --> 0:48:05.440
<v Speaker 1>like where you say you don't put much stock in

0:48:05.520 --> 0:48:08.600
<v Speaker 1>major championships, I think like when a golf course is

0:48:08.600 --> 0:48:13.560
<v Speaker 1>more difficult, he is a player that becomes, you know,

0:48:13.600 --> 0:48:17.279
<v Speaker 1>when it becomes more of a test. Compared to like

0:48:17.640 --> 0:48:21.120
<v Speaker 1>TPC Craig ranch zal Taurus is going to fare better.

0:48:21.880 --> 0:48:25.040
<v Speaker 2>To be clear, I put stock in major championships skill sets.

0:48:25.120 --> 0:48:27.040
<v Speaker 2>It's I just don't put as much stock in the

0:48:27.120 --> 0:48:29.840
<v Speaker 2>numbers that are next to their Wikipedia page for results

0:48:29.840 --> 0:48:33.000
<v Speaker 2>in major championships. I think will zala Trus is an

0:48:33.040 --> 0:48:35.759
<v Speaker 2>excellent player, he will play well in majors. His back

0:48:35.840 --> 0:48:40.719
<v Speaker 2>injury legitimately scares me like that. I know he said

0:48:40.719 --> 0:48:43.840
<v Speaker 2>he felt okay and he's playing when he played at Cappalua,

0:48:43.920 --> 0:48:47.360
<v Speaker 2>and I think he's playing at American Express, like clearly

0:48:47.400 --> 0:48:50.319
<v Speaker 2>things are feeling better. But that is frightening to me

0:48:50.400 --> 0:48:56.799
<v Speaker 2>that any swing he could keel over and beholding his back.

0:48:56.880 --> 0:48:58.720
<v Speaker 2>That really frightens me with zal Taurus.

0:48:59.520 --> 0:49:02.800
<v Speaker 1>See, I'd put him at this point and it's really

0:49:02.880 --> 0:49:05.879
<v Speaker 1>early and your tears and we didn't even get through

0:49:05.920 --> 0:49:09.040
<v Speaker 1>this exercise, which is you know, the fall of the host.

0:49:09.080 --> 0:49:12.960
<v Speaker 1>But you had if not in contention major failure. You

0:49:13.000 --> 0:49:18.160
<v Speaker 1>had Rory and Rahm if not in contention disappointed, cam Smith,

0:49:18.360 --> 0:49:22.399
<v Speaker 1>Scottie Scheffler and JT. And I think, like I think

0:49:22.440 --> 0:49:25.440
<v Speaker 1>I put zeal Torus in that if not in contention

0:49:25.760 --> 0:49:31.200
<v Speaker 1>disappointed and I point to the Open Championship at Saint Andrews.

0:49:31.640 --> 0:49:34.560
<v Speaker 1>It was like he wasn't in contention, And I found

0:49:34.640 --> 0:49:39.480
<v Speaker 1>myself very disappointed that he wasn't in contention and like surprised,

0:49:40.480 --> 0:49:40.960
<v Speaker 1>I hear you.

0:49:41.040 --> 0:49:44.479
<v Speaker 2>I mean, look, I could put everybody in that tier

0:49:44.560 --> 0:49:47.040
<v Speaker 2>and then nobody would feel bad. But I do think

0:49:47.200 --> 0:49:50.800
<v Speaker 2>when I view the professional landscape, the I think Rory

0:49:50.800 --> 0:49:53.400
<v Speaker 2>and John Rahm have are clearly above everyone else. They

0:49:53.400 --> 0:49:57.120
<v Speaker 2>have ascended, and I think Cam Smith, Scottie Scheffler, and JT,

0:49:57.440 --> 0:50:01.080
<v Speaker 2>especially given their iron play, are on that second tier

0:50:01.120 --> 0:50:03.759
<v Speaker 2>and those five guys belong ahead of everybody else.

0:50:04.880 --> 0:50:10.319
<v Speaker 1>JT question two top fives and five years of major championships,

0:50:10.680 --> 0:50:13.319
<v Speaker 1>one of them being a win a back door win

0:50:14.560 --> 0:50:19.760
<v Speaker 1>at Southern Health. Do you is there something about majors

0:50:19.840 --> 0:50:22.799
<v Speaker 1>that gives it like, I mean, perfect example of a

0:50:22.800 --> 0:50:25.160
<v Speaker 1>guy that's always like he should play great at Augusta,

0:50:25.200 --> 0:50:28.640
<v Speaker 1>but never does. And I've always been a little bit

0:50:28.719 --> 0:50:33.120
<v Speaker 1>confounded by I was confounded until I think last year.

0:50:34.239 --> 0:50:36.520
<v Speaker 1>It was a big year for JT to get one,

0:50:36.800 --> 0:50:40.040
<v Speaker 1>but at the same time he wasn't really around the

0:50:40.160 --> 0:50:41.399
<v Speaker 1>other ones, you know.

0:50:41.960 --> 0:50:44.680
<v Speaker 2>I feel obligated that to say that. I think there's

0:50:44.719 --> 0:50:47.120
<v Speaker 2>a huge storyline that never gets talked about at Augusta

0:50:47.160 --> 0:50:49.800
<v Speaker 2>with JT, and it is how much he has struggled

0:50:49.840 --> 0:50:52.960
<v Speaker 2>with the drive on thirteen, which is a huge shot.

0:50:53.000 --> 0:50:55.440
<v Speaker 2>He's gone in the creek left, he goes way out right.

0:50:55.520 --> 0:50:56.800
<v Speaker 1>Try to hit that snapper.

0:50:57.000 --> 0:50:58.920
<v Speaker 2>He can't hit the T shot he's given. It's his

0:50:58.960 --> 0:51:01.360
<v Speaker 2>worst hole on the course by far strokes gained. I

0:51:01.360 --> 0:51:03.120
<v Speaker 2>think he's losing like a quarter of a stroke to

0:51:03.120 --> 0:51:04.479
<v Speaker 2>the field on that hole.

0:51:04.560 --> 0:51:07.279
<v Speaker 1>Well, that was the one year that he was the

0:51:07.280 --> 0:51:09.239
<v Speaker 1>one year he looked like he was going to win.

0:51:10.200 --> 0:51:12.080
<v Speaker 1>On Saturday, he made a triple there.

0:51:12.480 --> 0:51:14.520
<v Speaker 2>I'm telling you it's a it's a really it gives

0:51:14.560 --> 0:51:16.440
<v Speaker 2>him fits. And I think he finished like tied for

0:51:16.520 --> 0:51:20.759
<v Speaker 2>eighth in this past Masters. So I'm telling you you're

0:51:20.800 --> 0:51:22.839
<v Speaker 2>talking about if he can figure this hole out, like

0:51:23.400 --> 0:51:28.640
<v Speaker 2>a two to three shot gap between you know, losing

0:51:28.640 --> 0:51:30.680
<v Speaker 2>strokes to the field versus picking up a couple birdies

0:51:30.719 --> 0:51:32.600
<v Speaker 2>or an eagle. Like this is a huge story that

0:51:32.640 --> 0:51:35.319
<v Speaker 2>doesn't really get talked about because Justin Thomas is very

0:51:35.360 --> 0:51:38.080
<v Speaker 2>well equipped for Augusta and this one hole gives him fits.

0:51:38.239 --> 0:51:40.160
<v Speaker 2>He's got to figure it out, maybe hit threewood off

0:51:40.160 --> 0:51:41.759
<v Speaker 2>the tee. But now now we have a little bit

0:51:41.760 --> 0:51:43.839
<v Speaker 2>of a different hole that it's been lengthened, so that

0:51:43.920 --> 0:51:45.480
<v Speaker 2>might work to his benefit if you don't have to

0:51:45.480 --> 0:51:46.439
<v Speaker 2>hook it quite as much.

0:51:47.520 --> 0:51:51.160
<v Speaker 1>And you know, like people talk about how it's going

0:51:51.200 --> 0:51:53.560
<v Speaker 1>to make it harder for guys, but that is it

0:51:53.640 --> 0:51:56.680
<v Speaker 1>is changing the dynastic, like you are going to be

0:51:56.760 --> 0:52:00.560
<v Speaker 1>able to hit it longer now without turning it over.

0:52:01.960 --> 0:52:03.839
<v Speaker 1>I still think you're gonna have to turn it over

0:52:03.880 --> 0:52:07.520
<v Speaker 1>a little. But it's funny because like that, I mean, people,

0:52:08.040 --> 0:52:10.400
<v Speaker 1>here's the thing. People fell in love with that snap

0:52:10.400 --> 0:52:14.239
<v Speaker 1>hook that he hits. But the ball should have gone

0:52:14.280 --> 0:52:18.160
<v Speaker 1>in the water at Sawgrass, the one on eighteen. It

0:52:18.239 --> 0:52:21.120
<v Speaker 1>was a lucky bounce that he got that kept it

0:52:21.120 --> 0:52:23.560
<v Speaker 1>out of the water. Like, that's not a good shot.

0:52:23.600 --> 0:52:26.640
<v Speaker 2>To hit a snaphook with a driver is not something

0:52:26.640 --> 0:52:29.960
<v Speaker 2>you want to be doing in controlled snapler.

0:52:29.960 --> 0:52:33.640
<v Speaker 1>I think it's controlled snaphook control Like this what shot?

0:52:33.760 --> 0:52:35.719
<v Speaker 1>It's like, that's a controlled snaphook.

0:52:36.360 --> 0:52:38.120
<v Speaker 2>I'm not sure how controlled it is. I think it's

0:52:38.160 --> 0:52:39.839
<v Speaker 2>really hard to control a snaphook with a driver.

0:52:40.600 --> 0:52:42.160
<v Speaker 1>Are we overrating Scheffler.

0:52:43.160 --> 0:52:45.879
<v Speaker 2>I don't think we're overrating Scotti Scheffler. His iron play

0:52:47.080 --> 0:52:51.120
<v Speaker 2>is unbelievable. I was too slow to see Scheffler coming,

0:52:51.640 --> 0:52:54.919
<v Speaker 2>but I do believe he belongs in that top five.

0:52:54.960 --> 0:52:57.040
<v Speaker 2>And if you wanted to take more Kawa Verus Scheffler

0:52:57.400 --> 0:52:59.000
<v Speaker 2>for this year's Majors, I would take it.

0:53:01.040 --> 0:53:04.400
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think he had such a good year. But

0:53:04.520 --> 0:53:06.920
<v Speaker 1>then I go back and like, the one thing that

0:53:06.960 --> 0:53:09.000
<v Speaker 1>worries me about putting him so high, and I have

0:53:09.120 --> 0:53:13.280
<v Speaker 1>him in my tier one, So the thing that I

0:53:13.440 --> 0:53:15.480
<v Speaker 1>was like, he hasn't done it for very long. But

0:53:15.520 --> 0:53:18.000
<v Speaker 1>then you go back and it's like, well, like he

0:53:18.080 --> 0:53:20.920
<v Speaker 1>almost won the first major he played in. It's a

0:53:21.000 --> 0:53:25.799
<v Speaker 1>pro you know, and he played well. He if you

0:53:25.840 --> 0:53:29.839
<v Speaker 1>go back to his college career, he was such a

0:53:29.880 --> 0:53:33.680
<v Speaker 1>great player and big events, like he didn't show up

0:53:33.719 --> 0:53:36.120
<v Speaker 1>all the time, but then when it was a big

0:53:36.160 --> 0:53:40.759
<v Speaker 1>time event, he was always there. And it's it's he's

0:53:40.760 --> 0:53:43.160
<v Speaker 1>another guy that like when you look at his game,

0:53:43.239 --> 0:53:45.600
<v Speaker 1>like what's his weakness? What would you say, is like

0:53:45.640 --> 0:53:47.960
<v Speaker 1>the one thing that he doesn't do well? It's like,

0:53:48.560 --> 0:53:51.360
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I think he does everything really really well.

0:53:51.560 --> 0:53:53.879
<v Speaker 2>His driver can get away from him a little bit

0:53:54.040 --> 0:53:56.960
<v Speaker 2>at times. But the one note I have in here

0:53:57.080 --> 0:54:00.040
<v Speaker 2>about Scotti Scheffler is I genuinely believe he has the

0:54:00.040 --> 0:54:02.239
<v Speaker 2>best mental game in golf. I think he has the

0:54:02.239 --> 0:54:05.719
<v Speaker 2>best attitude, the best mental game in golf. I genuinely

0:54:05.760 --> 0:54:08.640
<v Speaker 2>believe that. And I also think having Ted Scott on

0:54:08.680 --> 0:54:12.840
<v Speaker 2>his bag has been a significant benefit to him. So

0:54:13.040 --> 0:54:15.719
<v Speaker 2>I'm very optimistic about what Scotti Scheffer's majors will look

0:54:15.760 --> 0:54:16.200
<v Speaker 2>like this year.

0:54:17.120 --> 0:54:21.280
<v Speaker 1>Would you who would you say is closest to ascending you?

0:54:21.280 --> 0:54:24.480
<v Speaker 1>You have a top bucket of Rory and Rahm, and

0:54:24.520 --> 0:54:28.040
<v Speaker 1>then your your next the next buckets obviously camp Smith,

0:54:28.080 --> 0:54:30.839
<v Speaker 1>Scheffler and j T. Who's the closest to going up

0:54:30.880 --> 0:54:32.440
<v Speaker 1>to tier one?

0:54:32.760 --> 0:54:33.000
<v Speaker 2>JT?

0:54:34.600 --> 0:54:38.160
<v Speaker 1>Interesting, I think I might go, I might lean Scheffler.

0:54:39.200 --> 0:54:41.319
<v Speaker 2>I think Justin Thomas what he can do with his

0:54:41.400 --> 0:54:44.920
<v Speaker 2>irons nobody else can really do. Mar Cow is the

0:54:44.920 --> 0:54:47.040
<v Speaker 2>only name. Tom mor cow is the only other player

0:54:47.080 --> 0:54:49.040
<v Speaker 2>that can hit irons like Justin Thomas. And I think

0:54:49.040 --> 0:54:52.719
<v Speaker 2>at LACC and at Augusta in particular, that's that is

0:54:52.760 --> 0:54:56.960
<v Speaker 2>an iron test hardcore. JT's also amazing at chipping, so

0:54:57.080 --> 0:55:00.480
<v Speaker 2>is Scheffler. They're close, But when JT's on, I don't

0:55:00.920 --> 0:55:03.600
<v Speaker 2>think there's anybody that can really get quite that hot.

0:55:04.719 --> 0:55:07.759
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, I mean, And this is the thing with

0:55:07.800 --> 0:55:10.560
<v Speaker 1>the with the year. What makes me so excited, and

0:55:10.760 --> 0:55:12.759
<v Speaker 1>you know, kind of the why I wanted to put

0:55:12.760 --> 0:55:16.760
<v Speaker 1>this together is like we've never seen these guys play

0:55:17.040 --> 0:55:21.080
<v Speaker 1>twenty times in the same place or sixteen or whatever

0:55:21.120 --> 0:55:23.200
<v Speaker 1>it ends up shaking out to be. And this is

0:55:23.200 --> 0:55:25.560
<v Speaker 1>gonna be the first time where we see that, and

0:55:25.680 --> 0:55:28.640
<v Speaker 1>I think it's gonna paint like it's gonna start to

0:55:28.640 --> 0:55:33.360
<v Speaker 1>paint a much clearer picture, you know. I guess like

0:55:33.400 --> 0:55:35.560
<v Speaker 1>we have the one person we haven't talked about that

0:55:35.719 --> 0:55:41.560
<v Speaker 1>probably we obligated are obligated to talk about, is Jordan Spieth.

0:55:41.960 --> 0:55:43.080
<v Speaker 1>He's in your third tier.

0:55:43.360 --> 0:55:45.120
<v Speaker 2>I thought you were gonna say Tiger Woods.

0:55:46.040 --> 0:55:51.719
<v Speaker 1>No, No, I mean, come on, I don't. I love

0:55:51.800 --> 0:55:54.879
<v Speaker 1>I've one of the biggest fans of Tiger Woods. But

0:55:55.120 --> 0:55:59.359
<v Speaker 1>like we could, he cannot be seriously talked about at

0:55:59.400 --> 0:56:02.120
<v Speaker 1>this point, like he might win. I've said, this is

0:56:02.320 --> 0:56:06.360
<v Speaker 1>my Stanta Tigers. Nothing he does will ever surprise me

0:56:06.440 --> 0:56:10.759
<v Speaker 1>again ever. But that's all that needs to be said.

0:56:10.920 --> 0:56:13.960
<v Speaker 1>I like, I think he struggles to walk two days

0:56:14.000 --> 0:56:18.000
<v Speaker 1>in a row, and I think, you know, until we

0:56:18.040 --> 0:56:20.640
<v Speaker 1>get to the point where he's physically able to really

0:56:20.800 --> 0:56:24.680
<v Speaker 1>like walk seventy two holes, it's kind of a moot

0:56:24.680 --> 0:56:29.800
<v Speaker 1>point to talk to him. But Jordan Speed, obviously everybody's darling.

0:56:30.239 --> 0:56:33.240
<v Speaker 1>I see him. I hope he pulls off this sony

0:56:33.320 --> 0:56:38.880
<v Speaker 1>win and sets everybody into a speedmaster's hysteria, but like,

0:56:38.960 --> 0:56:42.200
<v Speaker 1>it's been a really interesting career because he's you know,

0:56:42.920 --> 0:56:44.880
<v Speaker 1>I think he's getting back to the guy he was,

0:56:45.400 --> 0:56:50.160
<v Speaker 1>you know, when he was in twenty fourteen or twenty fifteen,

0:56:50.200 --> 0:56:54.920
<v Speaker 1>twenty sixteen, but he had has like a dip. Like

0:56:55.000 --> 0:56:57.719
<v Speaker 1>it's it's been a very interesting career, and I think

0:56:57.719 --> 0:57:01.000
<v Speaker 1>the last five years aren't really the same as the

0:57:01.040 --> 0:57:03.960
<v Speaker 1>first three or four years.

0:57:04.040 --> 0:57:08.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I agree he's always been odd and that he's

0:57:08.040 --> 0:57:10.600
<v Speaker 2>like one of the best fifteen to twenty five foot

0:57:10.760 --> 0:57:14.160
<v Speaker 2>putters like ever, and then when he's hitting a three footer,

0:57:14.239 --> 0:57:16.080
<v Speaker 2>I never think it's gonna go in, so that there

0:57:16.160 --> 0:57:19.520
<v Speaker 2>is a weird obviously everyone knows like watching Jordan Speath

0:57:19.560 --> 0:57:22.280
<v Speaker 2>is quite the experience. But I am really high on

0:57:22.360 --> 0:57:25.360
<v Speaker 2>Jordan Speith. Hits it longer off the tea. Now, he's

0:57:25.400 --> 0:57:29.680
<v Speaker 2>got a little firepower. Played unbelievably through the early summer

0:57:30.000 --> 0:57:32.920
<v Speaker 2>last year. He's playing well again at Sony. Like I'm

0:57:33.400 --> 0:57:38.040
<v Speaker 2>I'm buying Jordan Speith. But again, there's so many golfers.

0:57:38.080 --> 0:57:40.160
<v Speaker 2>I think we have this youth explosion over the past

0:57:40.240 --> 0:57:43.360
<v Speaker 2>couple of years. This year, I don't think there's kind

0:57:43.400 --> 0:57:45.800
<v Speaker 2>of there's not really a newcomer this year. It's just

0:57:45.840 --> 0:57:48.000
<v Speaker 2>a bunch of guys who are twenty five to thirty

0:57:48.040 --> 0:57:50.840
<v Speaker 2>three years old in the primes of their careers battling

0:57:50.840 --> 0:57:51.160
<v Speaker 2>it out.

0:57:51.280 --> 0:57:53.320
<v Speaker 1>So that's what I'm I think there will be a

0:57:53.440 --> 0:57:55.840
<v Speaker 1>newcomer who we just don't know who it is.

0:57:57.200 --> 0:57:59.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, maybe somebody's gonna pop up, somebody's.

0:57:59.440 --> 0:58:02.240
<v Speaker 1>Gonna get high, But I think, yeah, I you know,

0:58:02.280 --> 0:58:07.080
<v Speaker 1>the speed thing, the short putting. I honestly, I think

0:58:07.080 --> 0:58:11.000
<v Speaker 1>there's a scar tissue, you know, like you go. That's

0:58:11.000 --> 0:58:14.160
<v Speaker 1>the thing with golf is like it could go a

0:58:14.200 --> 0:58:17.000
<v Speaker 1>lot of ways, but like when you go as low

0:58:17.040 --> 0:58:21.560
<v Speaker 1>as he went, there's something like he's come back from

0:58:21.560 --> 0:58:23.880
<v Speaker 1>it obviously really well. And I think there was a

0:58:23.880 --> 0:58:26.120
<v Speaker 1>period of time when you were kind of like whoa,

0:58:26.160 --> 0:58:28.640
<v Speaker 1>and it was a testament like he completely lost it,

0:58:29.400 --> 0:58:31.520
<v Speaker 1>but he still was like a top one hundred player

0:58:31.760 --> 0:58:34.560
<v Speaker 1>like that. That's crazy. You know, when you don't know

0:58:34.600 --> 0:58:37.200
<v Speaker 1>which way the ball's going off the tee and you're

0:58:37.280 --> 0:58:39.680
<v Speaker 1>still a top one hundred, it shows how good you

0:58:39.720 --> 0:58:44.240
<v Speaker 1>are at everything else. But the short putting, it's just weird, man.

0:58:44.440 --> 0:58:47.480
<v Speaker 1>And then like if he gets in the hunt sometimes

0:58:47.240 --> 0:58:51.520
<v Speaker 1>I like some of his like failed to close out

0:58:51.560 --> 0:58:56.200
<v Speaker 1>tournaments have been alarming to me, you know, like I'll

0:58:56.200 --> 0:58:58.640
<v Speaker 1>never forget the Sunday where he just got smoked by

0:58:58.760 --> 0:59:04.360
<v Speaker 1>Jason Kokrack and it's like whoa, Like, this's not you know,

0:59:04.480 --> 0:59:08.480
<v Speaker 1>it's just I think he's further away from that top

0:59:08.560 --> 0:59:12.640
<v Speaker 1>five then, And I think this is partly part of

0:59:12.680 --> 0:59:16.160
<v Speaker 1>the what you hit on the youth youth explosion, Like

0:59:16.600 --> 0:59:20.000
<v Speaker 1>he was almost like the first part. Obviously Rory, I

0:59:20.000 --> 0:59:23.479
<v Speaker 1>think would be like the start of the second youth

0:59:23.520 --> 0:59:26.880
<v Speaker 1>way like Tiger had the youth was the youth invasion,

0:59:27.840 --> 0:59:32.880
<v Speaker 1>but Rory kind of started it. But Speef was parts

0:59:32.960 --> 0:59:35.880
<v Speaker 1>like the cog like he was like, oh wow, golf's

0:59:36.000 --> 0:59:39.960
<v Speaker 1>changing because here comes this and now a lot of

0:59:39.960 --> 0:59:43.640
<v Speaker 1>guys are are better than him. I think he's really good,

0:59:44.200 --> 0:59:47.440
<v Speaker 1>but I think that he's at like a very he's

0:59:47.480 --> 0:59:50.640
<v Speaker 1>he doesn't have the full suite of skills that some

0:59:50.680 --> 0:59:51.520
<v Speaker 1>of these other guys have.

0:59:52.160 --> 0:59:54.040
<v Speaker 2>I'm with you, he's not nearly as good of a

0:59:54.120 --> 0:59:56.200
<v Speaker 2>driver of the golf ball as any of the other

0:59:56.280 --> 0:59:59.000
<v Speaker 2>names that we're talking about. He's gone longer. He's fine,

0:59:59.040 --> 1:00:02.240
<v Speaker 2>but he's not around. He's not a rary right, not

1:00:02.320 --> 1:00:06.040
<v Speaker 2>a Cam Young doesn't leave a lot of doesn't leave

1:00:06.080 --> 1:00:08.960
<v Speaker 2>a lot of margin for air, and if his irons

1:00:08.960 --> 1:00:11.200
<v Speaker 2>aren't quite up to snuff and there's the risk of

1:00:11.200 --> 1:00:12.920
<v Speaker 2>missing a four and a half foot or like, it

1:00:12.920 --> 1:00:15.120
<v Speaker 2>gets a little scary. But I'm very high on Jordan speed.

1:00:15.440 --> 1:00:18.080
<v Speaker 2>I think l acc and the Gusta set up very

1:00:18.120 --> 1:00:21.040
<v Speaker 2>well for him. Would not expect to see him in

1:00:21.040 --> 1:00:23.200
<v Speaker 2>contention at Okill and Liverpool.

1:00:23.240 --> 1:00:26.680
<v Speaker 1>Maybe who's the best driver of the golf ball? Young

1:00:26.800 --> 1:00:27.800
<v Speaker 1>driver of the golf ball?

1:00:28.720 --> 1:00:30.440
<v Speaker 2>Am I am? I allowed to say rom or Cam

1:00:30.480 --> 1:00:32.560
<v Speaker 2>Young because it's one of the two. Are you saying?

1:00:33.040 --> 1:00:34.760
<v Speaker 1>But I think it's Cam Young, right.

1:00:34.760 --> 1:00:36.880
<v Speaker 2>It's one of the two. I mean they are very similar.

1:00:37.320 --> 1:00:40.400
<v Speaker 2>I wouldn't trying to choose between rom And and cam

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<v Speaker 2>Young's is pretty tough. They're both. They look very similar

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<v Speaker 2>off the team.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean Cam Young to me has like a gear.

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<v Speaker 1>He's got like a I mean, it's scary how far

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<v Speaker 1>he hits it.

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<v Speaker 2>Same with Rom.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like Rom hits a lot of that squeeze

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<v Speaker 1>cut though, just to keep it in play. I think

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<v Speaker 1>Ron has that extra gear. I feel like Cam Young

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<v Speaker 1>kind of goes at it all the time a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit more.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe I don't know Rom's been training to those guys

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<v Speaker 2>are neck and neck. I wouldn't if you in a

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<v Speaker 2>driving contest. That's close to a coin flip for me.

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<v Speaker 1>Mm hmm. All right, well, predictions, you want to put

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<v Speaker 1>your predictions out there? If if you had to pick

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<v Speaker 1>the four majors.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, I mean the I think the right answer, which

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<v Speaker 2>is the lame answer, is like if I'm not saying that,

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<v Speaker 2>I think Rory is the favorite at each of these,

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<v Speaker 2>like he he is, So I would say a prediction

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<v Speaker 2>is that Rory wins a major this year. I do

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<v Speaker 2>think Rory wins a major this year. But I think

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<v Speaker 2>if I was to start just picking, like, oh, and

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<v Speaker 2>this guy at Oak Hill and this guy Augusta and

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<v Speaker 2>this guy at LACC, Like, why are you picking them

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<v Speaker 2>over Rory? Like that doesn't You're just trying to get

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<v Speaker 2>cute at that point.

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<v Speaker 1>So Rory for the sweep.

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<v Speaker 2>No, see, I don't know obviously, I don't think he's

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<v Speaker 2>gonna win all four, but I think Rory will win

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<v Speaker 2>a major. And if you said you wanted to take

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<v Speaker 2>a player right now against Rory any major, I'd take

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<v Speaker 2>the other side. Happily give me Rory and against somebody

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<v Speaker 2>else had to head it all.

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<v Speaker 1>Four interesting the only guy, Yeah, I think I think

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<v Speaker 1>there's a real argument that Rom is the best the

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<v Speaker 1>best player too. I think that's the only other guy

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<v Speaker 1>that you could defensively say and I'll take him against

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<v Speaker 1>it because if you if you zoom out a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit further, if you say two years is two and

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<v Speaker 1>a half years instead of you know, two years, Rom

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<v Speaker 1>probably has a better profile.

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<v Speaker 2>Right yeah, quickly, huge story on Rom that I wanted

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<v Speaker 2>to bring up. His wedge play really bad last year,

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't really discussed. His wedge play was awful last year.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's a huge story to watch this year

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<v Speaker 2>as Rory and Rom kind of duke out that number

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<v Speaker 2>one spot. Rom's amazing with a long iron, not good

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<v Speaker 2>with a wedge. Looked like he turned it around a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit of kapalua. But that's something to watch. So predictions,

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<v Speaker 2>I'll say, I.

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<v Speaker 1>Think that could be a part of like you're talking

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<v Speaker 1>about him speed training. Do you think that could be

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<v Speaker 1>a a back like it because he was a really

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<v Speaker 1>good wedge player.

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<v Speaker 2>I think he started speed training. I don't want to

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<v Speaker 2>say when he when he started speed trainings. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>really know. I've just been seeing the videos from this offseason,

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<v Speaker 2>but his bad wedge play goes all the way back

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<v Speaker 2>to the beginning of last year. So no, I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know that that wasn't necessarily related. Interesting all right, well

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<v Speaker 2>he is always camp Smith at LACC. How about that.

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<v Speaker 1>Camp Smith at LACC. I'm trying to think, if you

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<v Speaker 1>can miss it left there a lot, then it's a

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<v Speaker 1>good spot for him, and I think you can a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of plays.

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<v Speaker 2>Actually you can. You can miss it left there a

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<v Speaker 2>lot thirteen fourteen.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's the same thing with the old course, right,

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<v Speaker 1>you could just hit it one way all day. I

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<v Speaker 1>mean that he's that was he's about the most fun

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<v Speaker 1>to watch. I think, you know he's got he's got

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit of the Jordan Spiths relatability that in

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<v Speaker 1>his game where he hit some squirrely shots. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not just like a a auto like you know,

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<v Speaker 1>rom Like, there's no relatability with John Rohm the way

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<v Speaker 1>he plays with like a normal person, right, but cam

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<v Speaker 1>Smith has like a little bit of relatability because that

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<v Speaker 1>driver can get squirrely and you can be like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I could hit that shot, you know, and.

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<v Speaker 2>The play is James Han But that's just me. Let's

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<v Speaker 2>talk about their golf game.

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<v Speaker 1>James. Hopefully nobody takes away the takes away the Twitter

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<v Speaker 1>password from him.

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<v Speaker 2>That's any any predictions from you, I mean.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm the host, I don't have to. I think I

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<v Speaker 1>was really out on cantle a last year, and I've

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<v Speaker 1>worked my way back in on him. I think it

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<v Speaker 1>is a statistical anomaly, and so I think he's going

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<v Speaker 1>I'll say, Patrick Cantley is gonna win a major.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my gosh, are you kidding me? You're coming all

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<v Speaker 2>the way back to that. After just talking about how

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<v Speaker 2>he doesn't have it, I.

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<v Speaker 1>Just I myself back into him this offseason. I felt

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<v Speaker 1>I thought about the year and I thought, you know what,

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<v Speaker 1>I think I was too hard on Patrick Cantley, and

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<v Speaker 1>I think that this, like I believe that it's just

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<v Speaker 1>I do believe it's a statistical anomaly that he's not playing.

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<v Speaker 1>He hasn't played well at majors. I like camp Smith

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<v Speaker 1>at Augusta.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean yeah, I.

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<v Speaker 1>Feel like he kind of, like Sneaky, has the case

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<v Speaker 1>of like if anybody has the case of like I

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<v Speaker 1>should have won last year's Masters, as camp Smith like

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<v Speaker 1>he had like some disastrous holes and he still was.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean when he was on the twelfth tee, Scotty

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<v Speaker 1>got really lucky with his chip shot on three. That

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<v Speaker 1>was really lucky. If that ball doesn't hit the hit

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<v Speaker 1>the cup, he's probably making a bogie there and the

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<v Speaker 1>wheels are off, like and we've seen that the wheels

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<v Speaker 1>go off moment, and I felt like we were staring

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<v Speaker 1>that right in the face when he chipped in. Also

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<v Speaker 1>like then we're on twelve t and you're thinking camp

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<v Speaker 1>Smith might win this or like it, and then he

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<v Speaker 1>hit like a bad shot, you know, and he went

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<v Speaker 1>for it. And so to me, like I look at

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<v Speaker 1>camp Smith's major year last year and it was like

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<v Speaker 1>the Masters, you could easily create a path that he

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<v Speaker 1>wins that. And then the PGA he's one of the

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<v Speaker 1>five to ten best putters in the world and he

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<v Speaker 1>finished last and putting that week the first. Yeah, so

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<v Speaker 1>I think, like, you know, there's a world in the

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<v Speaker 1>easy world where things go a little bit differently, where

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<v Speaker 1>camp Smith wins two majors last year easy, And so

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<v Speaker 1>with that in mind, I kind of think like he's

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<v Speaker 1>been really close to Augusta a few times. This is

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<v Speaker 1>the year he gets it done.

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<v Speaker 2>I think the way I tend to think about Augusta

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<v Speaker 2>is like on each te box, what happens if he

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<v Speaker 2>hits it well, and what happens if it gets a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit offline into the trees. And cam Smith's kind

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<v Speaker 2>of fine in either situation. He's one of the best

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<v Speaker 2>from the fairway, and he's one of the best at

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<v Speaker 2>getting himself out of trouble from the trees. That's kind

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<v Speaker 2>of a big part of Augusta. And that's why I'm

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<v Speaker 2>really never worried about cam Smith on any of the

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<v Speaker 2>holes out there. But there are other guys where if

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<v Speaker 2>they're hitting it a little bit crooked, they're not the

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<v Speaker 2>scrambler that cam Smith is, So he's almost can't have

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<v Speaker 2>a terrible day out there.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, it's the same thing with Speed, right, Why does

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<v Speaker 1>Speed play so well in Augusta. It's like, oh, like

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<v Speaker 1>if he gets squirrely, it's not a big deal, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>because he's like it's so hard. If Speth or cam

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<v Speaker 1>Smith can hit the ball, can get out of the

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<v Speaker 1>trees and hit it just short of the green, you

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<v Speaker 1>know out there they're gonna get up and down almost

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<v Speaker 1>every time because it's short grass, like those guys like,

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's the beauty of short grass, right, is

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<v Speaker 1>like the very best guys from short grass. And you'll

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<v Speaker 1>probably disagree with me here, but the very best guys

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<v Speaker 1>from short grass, like they're hard shots, but those guys

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<v Speaker 1>are so good they're gonna get up and down the

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<v Speaker 1>vast majority of the time. And then you get guys

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<v Speaker 1>like Lee Westwood who are putting, and it's like then

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<v Speaker 1>it becomes like more of a fifty to fifty proposition, right,

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<v Speaker 1>I think it. That's the thing with Augusta is that

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<v Speaker 1>making par from the trees for somebody that's really good

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<v Speaker 1>at scrambling is not very hard. But for and it's

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<v Speaker 1>the underrated skill out there, right, is the ability to

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<v Speaker 1>just string together pars and avoid because you can make

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<v Speaker 1>so many birdies out there, but bogies are waiting and

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<v Speaker 1>those scramblers, like the bogies just aren't is readily available

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<v Speaker 1>if you're really good around the greens.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I agree. And when I think about cam Smith Augusta,

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<v Speaker 2>my mind goes back to shots like out of the

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<v Speaker 2>trees on the left on hold nine that he jammed

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<v Speaker 2>to like three, and it's like there's just other guys

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<v Speaker 2>can't do that, They really can't. So Cam Smith, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>if he's wearing a green jacket in a few months,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think we're going to be surprised, be quite

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<v Speaker 2>the noisy. Uh maybe that'd be.

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<v Speaker 1>A disaster, disaster for the PTA tour. If Cam Smith

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<v Speaker 1>is the is the is holding the green jacket and

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<v Speaker 1>the cleric drug at the same time. And you know

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<v Speaker 1>the players Champion that didn't get to defend you know.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, talent is talent.

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<v Speaker 1>It's it's crazy. It should be a really funny year.

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<v Speaker 1>I I I'm excited for more of these designated events too.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the one of the things I'm didn't know that

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<v Speaker 1>I was going to be this excited about.

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<v Speaker 2>Yep, A lot of reasons to be excited as a

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<v Speaker 2>golf fan. So it should be an interesting major season.

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<v Speaker 1>All Right, we'll talk again soon. We'll see you, see

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<v Speaker 1>you next week actually, but thanks for coming on, Joseph.

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