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Speaker 1: But you're right. Listen, We've got a trend here. The

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Speaker 1: past two sales, Temper with the Panthers and now Walton

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Speaker 1: with the Broncos are the too richest owners in the league.

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Speaker 1: So as these prices keep going up, you're dwindling the

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Speaker 1: number of billionaires that are going to play the game.

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Speaker 1: And not that you're not that they didn't have a

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Speaker 1: ton of bidders, but the NFL likes people that can

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Speaker 1: write the check. And back in the day, you're writing

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Speaker 1: a check for four hundred and five hundred million dollars.

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Speaker 1: Now you're writing a check for ten times that. And

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Speaker 1: you're talking about a very limited number of people. And

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Speaker 1: Walton is obviously one of them, and his brother in

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Speaker 1: law owns the Rams, but walmart family owns two of

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Speaker 1: the richest, two of the three richest owners in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: Andrew last one for me. I was listening to a

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Speaker 1: podcast the other day, two guys listening to their top

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Speaker 1: gms in the NFL. One guy had Brandon being number one,

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Speaker 1: the other one had Brandon being one A. And I

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Speaker 1: don't think it's hard for anyone who follows football going

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Speaker 1: a little bit to understand that Brandon Being's done a

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Speaker 1: very good job running the Bills. But as someone who's

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Speaker 1: done the job, who understands it from the inside, what

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Speaker 1: has been the one or two things that Bean has

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Speaker 1: done that's impressed you the most. Well, you start at

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Speaker 1: the quarterback position, and while it looked like a big

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Speaker 1: deal at the time, you get Allen under contract at

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Speaker 1: a number that's reasonable now and even a year or later,

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Speaker 1: it looks like a reasonable deal. And it's not even

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Speaker 1: the number of the deal, but I just thought the

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Speaker 1: length of the deal was a real win for the Bills.

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Speaker 1: It was seven years plus an existing year. I believe

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Speaker 1: it was, so an eight year contract control over Josh

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Speaker 1: Allen is just a massive win to have a team

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Speaker 1: be able to have that position solidified, you know, And

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Speaker 1: I think they're they've made selective hits outside the homegrown

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Speaker 1: players that are important not only on the field but

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Speaker 1: off the field. So yeah, we'll see. I mean, right

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Speaker 1: now they're kind of a darling of people picking for

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Speaker 1: the top teams next year. But obviously we've got to

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Speaker 1: see how it turns out. Andrew is always thanks for

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Speaker 1: the time. We appreciate you're given some of it to us.

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Speaker 1: We'll catch up with you down the line. Enjoy your summer.

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Speaker 1: Thanks guys. All right, that's business of sports analysts for

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Speaker 1: SI dot Com. Andrew Brandt joining us also hosts a

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Speaker 1: business sports podcast, kind of giving us the business lay

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Speaker 1: of the land, with the offseason landscape here in the

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Speaker 1: NFL dealing with dollars and cents like we have never

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Speaker 1: seen before, billions of them. As a matter of fact,

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Speaker 1: I gotta tell you, if you told me in twenty

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Speaker 1: fourteen that the cost of an NFL franchise when the

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Speaker 1: Pugoula has bought the bills was going to double twice

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Speaker 1: in eight years, I would have told you you were nuts.

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Speaker 1: But here we are, man. I mean, we're talking four

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Speaker 1: point six five billion dollars for an NFL team, And

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Speaker 1: I was reading that there are actually more billionaires in

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Speaker 1: the world today than there were ten years ago. But

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Speaker 1: you're gonna run out of buyers if the price keeps

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Speaker 1: going up like that fad, I guess. I mean, it

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Speaker 1: doesn't seem like anyone's had any problem coming up with

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Speaker 1: the money when it's needed or desired, So you know

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Speaker 1: that everything always rises in price. Sports franchises are just

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Speaker 1: you know, mushrooming for a thousand reasons in terms of

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Speaker 1: their profitability. And I mean, don't underestimate the idea that

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Speaker 1: you know in my world in television, that you know,

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Speaker 1: sports is quickly becoming the only viable live television product.

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Speaker 1: I mean, the only thing that you can say, you know,

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Speaker 1: sit down at time AX and come watch us and

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Speaker 1: be successful at it. Everything else has to be on demand,

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Speaker 1: and there is value in that when you can guarantee

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Speaker 1: that I'm gonna have eyeballs on something for this two

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Speaker 1: or three hour period. I mean, it's just one part

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Speaker 1: of the reason. But I don't see any reason why,

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Speaker 1: especially the NFL. But but sports in general is just

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Speaker 1: going to keep getting more expensive, more profitable, and you know,

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Speaker 1: just generating more revenue. Yeah, and I believe you follow

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Speaker 1: the English Premier League to a certain degree like I do.

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Speaker 1: And we saw we just saw Chelsea get purchased for

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Speaker 1: five point four billion dollars and people I had one

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Speaker 1: of my neighbors asked me, why the heck are people

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Speaker 1: shelling out this kind of money for sports teams? And

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Speaker 1: the bottom line is part of what you said, But

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Speaker 1: I think the other part is for big money people

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Speaker 1: like these billionaires, you own a sports team, it is

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Speaker 1: protected from market fluctuations. It's unaffected by recession. I mean,

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Speaker 1: we just came out of a pandemic and NFL teams

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Speaker 1: rose in value like seventeen percent over the last two

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Speaker 1: years during a worldwide pandemic. I mean, that's that's insane. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's what the old adage about the best investment is

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Speaker 1: real estate. I mean the best investment now is sports teams.

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Speaker 1: You're right, I mean there's really, you know, nothing safer,

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Speaker 1: especially for the sports that are king in America. It's

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Speaker 1: it's football and probably basketball, even though the baseball revenues

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Speaker 1: are just climbing like crazy as well. But when you're

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Speaker 1: in England, where you know, soccer is basically the sport

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Speaker 1: and the Premier League is the league, I mean, it's

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Speaker 1: it's a lock. You know, you almost wonder why anybody

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Speaker 1: would sell, you know, but it's something that's not changing

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Speaker 1: anytime soon, that's for sure. Yeah, we have to take

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Speaker 1: a break here, but when we come back, Thad and

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Speaker 1: I are going to discuss with you the most improved

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Speaker 1: team in the NFL this offseason. Thad and I put

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Speaker 1: together top fives. We just need you to come up

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Speaker 1: with your most improved NFL club this offseason and tell

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Speaker 1: us why. You can call us at eight three five

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Speaker 1: fifty one eight eight five fifty two five fifty or

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Speaker 1: hit us up on the tweet sheet a one Bills Live.

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Speaker 1: We're back in a second. We'll see in a couple. Okay,

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Speaker 1: back here on one Bills Live on a Thursday. Chris

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Speaker 1: Brown and Thad Brown with you, and we're talking most

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Speaker 1: improved teams in the NFL this offseason. What we are

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Speaker 1: asking from you is to give us your most improved

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Speaker 1: NFL club in the entire league this offseason, based on

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Speaker 1: what they did to improve their roster or their coaching

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Speaker 1: ranks for that matter, and tell us why not don't

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Speaker 1: just throw a team out of just give us a

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Speaker 1: reason why you feel that's the most improved club in

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Speaker 1: the NFL. You can call us at eight o three

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Speaker 1: oh five fifty, or you can hit us up on

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Speaker 1: the tweet sheet at one Bills Live. Faed and I

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Speaker 1: went a little deeper into this as we both put

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Speaker 1: together our top five most improved teams in the NFL

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Speaker 1: this offseason, and we're going to kind of go every

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Speaker 1: other here and we'll start at five and work our

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Speaker 1: way down to the number one. Most improved team that

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Speaker 1: we had on our respective lists, But who did you

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Speaker 1: have at five? Fed For me, the fifth most improved

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Speaker 1: team I had was Miami, and I had the Dolphins

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Speaker 1: just beating out the Jags and the Raiders. And I

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Speaker 1: bring up the Jags to your point about improving the

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Speaker 1: coaching ranks, I mean Jacksonville just getting rid of Urbert

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Speaker 1: Meyer's Gotti Worth with two or three wins potentially, So

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Speaker 1: I almost had jackson at five. Boy. Look, I love

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Speaker 1: what Miami did offensively, obviously adding Tyreek Hill, you know,

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Speaker 1: a major game changing type weapon. And look, he'll's been

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Speaker 1: the league for a long time. I had to double

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Speaker 1: check he's only twenty eight. I mean, this is a

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Speaker 1: guy that's still got two or three really high level

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Speaker 1: seasons probably left in him. But on top of that,

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Speaker 1: getting tear In Armstead from the Saints to lock up

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Speaker 1: the tackle position, Connor Williams at guard. You know, offensive

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Speaker 1: line has always been an issue for them. They brought

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Speaker 1: in three or four running backs, and I'm not a

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Speaker 1: huge fan of any one particular, but I think between

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Speaker 1: Chase Edmonds and or He Mostert and Sony Michelle and

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Speaker 1: Miles Gasking, somebody will be fine, so I think the

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Speaker 1: offense is much much better and a huge improvement for

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Speaker 1: the Dolphins. Yeah, you mentioned the team that I put

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Speaker 1: in the five spot. I put the Raiders there. Davante

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Speaker 1: Adams and Chandler Jones alone as the headline acquisitions. To me,

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Speaker 1: that put him in the conversation immediately. And we all

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Speaker 1: know that Josh McDaniels is familiar with Chandler Jones, having

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Speaker 1: been with the Patriots organization together and now they're reunited

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Speaker 1: out in Las Vegas. But those two guys alone dynamically

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Speaker 1: change the Raiders as a contender. Now. Granted they're in

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Speaker 1: the AFC West, it may not mean much more than

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Speaker 1: two more wins for them in the division that they're

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Speaker 1: playing in. But I thought the other interesting part about

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Speaker 1: the Raiders was it looked like GM Dave's Eagler and

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Speaker 1: head coach Josh McDaniels took a page out of Brandon

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Speaker 1: Bean's book signed a lot of Tier two free agents

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Speaker 1: to one year contract, guys like wide receiver Mac Collins,

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Speaker 1: cornerback Darius Phillips, outside linebacker Kyler Fackrell, wide receiver to

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Speaker 1: Marcus Robinson, linebacker Jayon Brown from Tennessee I mean, these

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Speaker 1: are in household name players, but on one year contracts,

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Speaker 1: They're going to be motivated to earn their next contract

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Speaker 1: and play hard for this team. So it's interesting the

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Speaker 1: approach that they're taking not all that dissimilar to what

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Speaker 1: the Bills did early on in their build into what

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Speaker 1: they are now. The one thing about the Raiders that

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Speaker 1: that kept it out for me was Adams is going

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Speaker 1: to turn thirty in December and Chandler Jones is thirty three.

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Speaker 1: You know, those two guys had super years last year

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Speaker 1: and should probably you know, be as close, if not

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Speaker 1: just as good as this year. But they are both

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Speaker 1: at that age I mean for a receiver, now, thirty

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Speaker 1: years old is about the time a receiver start to

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Speaker 1: drop off production wise. So to me, your top two

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Speaker 1: on guys who I love as much as you do,

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Speaker 1: their age to me as a little more of a

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Speaker 1: risk that you don't get what you're paying for out

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Speaker 1: of those players compared to Miami. But I agree with

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Speaker 1: you other Raiders had a great offseason. I also agree

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Speaker 1: by the way, that great offseason might not be worth

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Speaker 1: anything when it comes to wins and losses just because

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Speaker 1: of who else is in the division. And to that point,

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Speaker 1: my number four team was the Chargers, and similar to

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Speaker 1: what the Raiders did, they added impact players at impact positions.

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Speaker 1: Cleil Mack j C. Jackson probably the two best available

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Speaker 1: players in terms of corner and pass rusher in this

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Speaker 1: pass off season. You could argue a couple other guys,

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Speaker 1: but now you're gonna have a Bos on one side

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Speaker 1: and Cleil Mack on the other when you face the Chargers.

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Speaker 1: That's going to be a nightmare for a offenses. J C.

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Speaker 1: Jackson helps solidify a secondary that's been very I mean

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Speaker 1: that defense has been not good, you know, for a

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Speaker 1: long time, obviously, justin Herbert, and then offense has already

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Speaker 1: been pretty good. And you know, they added another alignment

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Speaker 1: in Zion Johnson, a guy in the draft who I loved.

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Speaker 1: So I think that the Chargers did a great job

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Speaker 1: filling major holes with major pieces. But again, you know,

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Speaker 1: and when I was going through this list, I'm thinking, well,

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Speaker 1: improved has got to mean more wins, right, But it's

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Speaker 1: hard to you know, to think that all these teams

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Speaker 1: that are better are gonna win a whole lot more games. Also,

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Speaker 1: you know, if I'm thinking improved only means more wins.

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Speaker 1: Then the whole list would be the Texans, Jags, Jets

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Speaker 1: and all these terrible teams last year. So I think

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Speaker 1: for teams who got better that were middle to upper

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Speaker 1: level already, I think the Chargers did one of the

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Speaker 1: better jobs in the off season. Okay, so number four

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Speaker 1: for me, I had the Dolphins. I don't need to

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Speaker 1: reiterate a lot of what you said. I know you

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Speaker 1: mentioned Chase Edmonds and Raheem Mostart. They also added Sony

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Speaker 1: Michelle here recently, so they got another guy, and you know,

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Speaker 1: if he's bringing that Shanahan offense with him, Mike McDaniel's

645
00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:03,479
Speaker 1: going to use all of those guys in some way,

646
00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:06,200
Speaker 1: shape or form, and it's going to be very interesting

647
00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:08,279
Speaker 1: for me to see how much more of a play

648
00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:13,560
Speaker 1: action quarterback McDaniel makes Tah with all the run concepts

649
00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:15,280
Speaker 1: that you know are going to be part of that offense.

650
00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:19,560
Speaker 1: And then the other thing about the Dolphins was Melvin

651
00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:21,239
Speaker 1: Ingram was a nice shot in the arm for the

652
00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:26,000
Speaker 1: Chiefs last year. Can he be that and be an

653
00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:30,200
Speaker 1: effective guy playing off of Jalen Phillips, who I think

654
00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:33,719
Speaker 1: was just starting to realize how dominant he could be

655
00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:36,040
Speaker 1: in a football game late in the season last year.

656
00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:40,160
Speaker 1: That could be a combo that actually has more production

657
00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:42,879
Speaker 1: than I think people are anticipating. All right, Number three

658
00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:46,480
Speaker 1: for you set Number three for me was the Jets,

659
00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:48,960
Speaker 1: And this is kind of an easy one. Now, Look,

660
00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:52,040
Speaker 1: the Jets frankly could have added anybody and it would

661
00:36:52,040 --> 00:36:53,800
Speaker 1: have improved them. I mean, they were, you know, pretty

662
00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:56,200
Speaker 1: much that bad last year. But I really like what

663
00:36:56,239 --> 00:36:58,799
Speaker 1: they did in terms of improving the secondary, which was

664
00:36:58,840 --> 00:37:01,520
Speaker 1: the biggest train wreck, that giant train wreck. You get

665
00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:05,439
Speaker 1: DJ Reid and Jordan White had two solid, not high,

666
00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:09,080
Speaker 1: not number one type guys, but very dependable, you know,

667
00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:12,640
Speaker 1: high level players. Want a safety, want a corner, you

668
00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:16,120
Speaker 1: grab Lake and Thomlinson. The guard also really really good

669
00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:18,200
Speaker 1: from the Niners paid him a ton, you know, for

670
00:37:18,239 --> 00:37:20,719
Speaker 1: our guard, but shows up the offensive line. And then

671
00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:22,120
Speaker 1: of course in the draft, the Jets had a ton

672
00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:24,839
Speaker 1: of assets, but they come out of the draft with

673
00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:27,680
Speaker 1: what some people say is the best corner. I agree

674
00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:30,160
Speaker 1: in Sauce Gardner what some people say is the best

675
00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:32,880
Speaker 1: running back. I agree in Breece Hill, Breece Hall. What

676
00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:35,520
Speaker 1: some people say is the best wide receiver. I vehemently

677
00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:38,480
Speaker 1: disagree and Garrett Wilson. They might even got the best

678
00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:41,479
Speaker 1: tight end of the draft too. That's good offseason work.

679
00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:44,040
Speaker 1: And I think, you know, obviously the Jet's gonna go

680
00:37:44,120 --> 00:37:46,439
Speaker 1: as far as Zach Wilson's gonna take them, but they've

681
00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:49,920
Speaker 1: done a really good job of improving around them. And

682
00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:52,320
Speaker 1: I didn't even throw in the fact that they're essentially

683
00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:56,360
Speaker 1: gonna add two edge rushers this year. Jermaine Johnson they drafted,

684
00:37:56,560 --> 00:37:58,959
Speaker 1: but Carl Lawson they signed an offseason last year. Didn't

685
00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:01,600
Speaker 1: play it down because he blew as achilles in training camp.

686
00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:04,399
Speaker 1: Do you get him back? So this roster is gonna

687
00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:07,080
Speaker 1: be a whole lot better next year. Yeah, the Jets

688
00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:08,759
Speaker 1: just missed the cut. For me, I had him at

689
00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:12,399
Speaker 1: like number six for most improved teams, And the only

690
00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:15,160
Speaker 1: reason why was because while all this draft picked talent

691
00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:18,680
Speaker 1: is good, it's still unproven. And I realized that some

692
00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:20,600
Speaker 1: of these guys are probably going to have some success

693
00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:23,239
Speaker 1: right away running backs typically due so that spells good

694
00:38:23,239 --> 00:38:26,120
Speaker 1: things for Breece Hall. But I was looking more at

695
00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:29,799
Speaker 1: teams that added proven talents at this level and kind

696
00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:31,719
Speaker 1: of ranked them a little bit higher. So for three,

697
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Speaker 1: number three for me and I realized they were a

698
00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:37,600
Speaker 1: fringe playoff team last year, but I went with the

699
00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:40,960
Speaker 1: Eagles here and again, the headline acquisition is the draft

700
00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:43,120
Speaker 1: day trade for a j Brown, giving them a true

701
00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:46,520
Speaker 1: number one wide receiver for Jalen Hurtz. Also added pass

702
00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:49,360
Speaker 1: rusher Hassan Reddick. Are we sensing a pattern here? Wide

703
00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:53,439
Speaker 1: receivers and pass rushers. James Bradberry added on the back

704
00:38:53,560 --> 00:38:56,400
Speaker 1: end recently after he was cast off by the Giants,

705
00:38:56,400 --> 00:38:58,400
Speaker 1: gives him a top two corner. And then in the

706
00:38:58,480 --> 00:39:01,000
Speaker 1: draft that got Jordan Davis into Obe Dean from Georgie's

707
00:39:01,080 --> 00:39:05,560
Speaker 1: national title winning defense. So I think the Eagles could

708
00:39:05,600 --> 00:39:08,359
Speaker 1: be right there with the Cowboys pushing them in the

709
00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:12,600
Speaker 1: NFC East, all right, Number two two, Yeah, Number two

710
00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:15,480
Speaker 1: for me was the Eagles. So I'm right with you.

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00:39:15,560 --> 00:39:18,200
Speaker 1: I really love their offseason. And you know, you were

712
00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:20,800
Speaker 1: kind of alluding to it a minute ago. The teams

713
00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:23,479
Speaker 1: that we I think both largely have towards the top.

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Speaker 1: They're not just adding good players, they're adding them at

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Speaker 1: impact positions. You know, I like the Jets draft because, yeah,

716
00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:32,280
Speaker 1: they got great players. They did get great linebackers and safeties.

717
00:39:32,320 --> 00:39:35,279
Speaker 1: They got great receivers and corners and pass rushers. Same

718
00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:37,240
Speaker 1: thing here with the Eagles. You know, they added at receiver,

719
00:39:37,560 --> 00:39:40,800
Speaker 1: they added at pass rusher. I know, Jordan Davis's defensive tackle.

720
00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:43,279
Speaker 1: He's a guy that is seen as someone that can

721
00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:47,960
Speaker 1: really be a quarterback problem in the past defense game.

722
00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:50,360
Speaker 1: And then the Kobe Dean, you know, picking him up

723
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Speaker 1: where they grabbed him. I mean, he was a guy

724
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Speaker 1: that a lot of people thought would go in the

725
00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:56,640
Speaker 1: first round. They'd rather think round three. So the Eagles

726
00:39:56,680 --> 00:39:59,319
Speaker 1: had a really nice offseason, and you know, they're a

727
00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:01,920
Speaker 1: little further long in their quarterback progression that I think

728
00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:04,360
Speaker 1: most rebuilding teams are. Jalen Hurts has already. You know,

729
00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:06,560
Speaker 1: he's been to the playoffs already once and I don't

730
00:40:06,560 --> 00:40:08,600
Speaker 1: know if he'll ever be a great quarterback, but I

731
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Speaker 1: feel a lot better about him than I do about

732
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Speaker 1: the three guys in the AFC East, Trevor Lawrence, all

733
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Speaker 1: those guys. So I think the Eagles did a really

734
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Speaker 1: good job around him. Yeah. Number two for me, I

735
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Speaker 1: went Broncos I felt the only thing that team was

736
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Speaker 1: missing to compete in the AFC West was a quarterback,

737
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Speaker 1: and for my money, they probably landed the best quarterback

738
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Speaker 1: this offseason are the ones that were available in Russell Wilson,

739
00:40:30,280 --> 00:40:32,720
Speaker 1: and he's got a reliable run game with Javonte Williams,

740
00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:35,520
Speaker 1: plenty of weapons, Cortland Sutton, Jerry Judy, Tim Patrick. They

741
00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:38,120
Speaker 1: also drafted Greg Dulcich out of UCLA, who I think

742
00:40:38,160 --> 00:40:42,040
Speaker 1: is an underrated pass catching tight end, and their secondary solid.

743
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Speaker 1: My only concern is their linebacking unit, which is solid

744
00:40:45,280 --> 00:40:49,120
Speaker 1: but not great. Before we get to our number ones, though,

745
00:40:49,160 --> 00:40:50,880
Speaker 1: fed let's go to the phones at eight oh three

746
00:40:50,920 --> 00:40:53,839
Speaker 1: oh five fifty and leading us off today is Mark

747
00:40:53,880 --> 00:40:56,799
Speaker 1: and West Seneca, who has his most improved team. Who

748
00:40:56,840 --> 00:40:58,960
Speaker 1: do you have, Mark? You're on one Bill's Live. Oh,

749
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Speaker 1: I think you guys touched on already. I was very

750
00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:05,000
Speaker 1: impressive what the Chargers did. Okay, I mean, obviously they

751
00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:09,400
Speaker 1: got a great quarterback and their offense is pretty pretty imposing.

752
00:41:09,520 --> 00:41:13,160
Speaker 1: But what they did on defense, bringing in the cornerback

753
00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:15,920
Speaker 1: and a couple of defensive alignment, I think they really

754
00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:19,359
Speaker 1: really improved their defense big time. And if those guys

755
00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:22,839
Speaker 1: play up to par, they could be pretty imposing down

756
00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:25,440
Speaker 1: the road, especially getting into the playoffs. And that yeah,

757
00:41:25,520 --> 00:41:27,680
Speaker 1: I mean so, And then I wanted to make a

758
00:41:27,719 --> 00:41:29,200
Speaker 1: comment if you guys give me a little bit of

759
00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:36,080
Speaker 1: leadway about the Shawn Wattson situation. The Browns are being

760
00:41:36,200 --> 00:41:40,160
Speaker 1: roundly criticized for what they did their ownership, which they

761
00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:44,959
Speaker 1: one hundred percent deserved, But what really has surprised me

762
00:41:45,280 --> 00:41:50,000
Speaker 1: is the lack of criticism the league is getting for

763
00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:52,960
Speaker 1: hanging back in the leeds. And I know they hide

764
00:41:52,960 --> 00:42:00,640
Speaker 1: behind things like ongoing investigations, the stat and yet oh jeez,

765
00:42:00,640 --> 00:42:02,959
Speaker 1: looks like you're let Sell dropped out there. Sorry, Mark,

766
00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:05,960
Speaker 1: I don't know. I think I think he made his

767
00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:08,080
Speaker 1: point though. Yeah, I mean, but the one thing about

768
00:42:08,080 --> 00:42:09,759
Speaker 1: the NFL thing that I want to say is that

769
00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:13,960
Speaker 1: the NFL doesn't really have to act yet. You know,

770
00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:16,640
Speaker 1: they have the opportunity to kind of sit back and

771
00:42:17,600 --> 00:42:19,040
Speaker 1: wait until. I mean, they really don't have to do

772
00:42:19,120 --> 00:42:22,920
Speaker 1: anything until preseason at earliest, and probably if Desharn Watson's

773
00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:25,319
Speaker 1: on the field Week one, then there's a problem. But

774
00:42:25,520 --> 00:42:28,360
Speaker 1: until then, you know, I think it might even behoove

775
00:42:28,440 --> 00:42:31,640
Speaker 1: the NFL to take its time and try and get

776
00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:34,719
Speaker 1: this right, because you know, I think the majority of

777
00:42:34,760 --> 00:42:37,880
Speaker 1: times when the NFL is punished a player for conduct

778
00:42:37,960 --> 00:42:41,840
Speaker 1: unbecoming or other reasons the league has been roundly criticized,

779
00:42:41,920 --> 00:42:44,520
Speaker 1: and look, there's a thousand reasons to begin into four

780
00:42:44,719 --> 00:42:47,759
Speaker 1: why that is. But in terms of a timeline, you know,

781
00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:49,920
Speaker 1: I think the NFL probably is better off setting in

782
00:42:49,960 --> 00:42:53,200
Speaker 1: the weeds. It's June. You know, we don't three months

783
00:42:53,640 --> 00:42:57,000
Speaker 1: get it right and not don't be hasty about it

784
00:42:57,120 --> 00:42:59,800
Speaker 1: just because someone wants you to do it right this second,

785
00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:02,520
Speaker 1: you know, hammer Mark. But the point I'm making is

786
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Speaker 1: that I think the NFL's in a decent spot to

787
00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:07,440
Speaker 1: take its time in this situation right and in the

788
00:43:07,520 --> 00:43:10,640
Speaker 1: times where they have rushed to judgment, they've had to

789
00:43:10,680 --> 00:43:13,479
Speaker 1: retrace their steps. And the Ray Rice insient comes to mind,

790
00:43:13,480 --> 00:43:17,080
Speaker 1: maybe bigger than any of the others. You know, they

791
00:43:17,120 --> 00:43:20,719
Speaker 1: made an initial ruling and then the video comes out

792
00:43:20,760 --> 00:43:22,520
Speaker 1: and it's just like, oh geez, we got to do

793
00:43:22,560 --> 00:43:25,120
Speaker 1: more than what we just did here, And so they're,

794
00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:27,440
Speaker 1: you know, now they've got to go back tail between

795
00:43:27,480 --> 00:43:29,800
Speaker 1: their legs and say we made a rush to judgment.

796
00:43:30,239 --> 00:43:33,919
Speaker 1: More severe punishments necessary, And so I think that's why

797
00:43:33,960 --> 00:43:37,000
Speaker 1: they would prefer to wait, because who knows. Details like

798
00:43:37,080 --> 00:43:39,680
Speaker 1: the New York Times article by j Jenny Wrentis comes

799
00:43:39,680 --> 00:43:42,320
Speaker 1: out and there's a whole new layer the thing which

800
00:43:42,560 --> 00:43:46,360
Speaker 1: demonstrates with sixty six women over seventeen months that guilty

801
00:43:46,560 --> 00:43:49,880
Speaker 1: or not guilty, there was a definite agenda on to

802
00:43:49,960 --> 00:43:53,800
Speaker 1: Shaun Watson's part that ran completely in the opposite direction

803
00:43:54,200 --> 00:43:56,880
Speaker 1: from taking care of his body, so to speak, with

804
00:43:56,920 --> 00:43:59,600
Speaker 1: massage therapy. We have to take a break here, but

805
00:43:59,640 --> 00:44:01,799
Speaker 1: when we come back, Thad and I will give you

806
00:44:01,840 --> 00:44:06,200
Speaker 1: our number one most improved teams this off season. We're

807
00:44:06,239 --> 00:44:08,080
Speaker 1: happy to take yours as well. At eight oh three

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Speaker 1: oh five fifty. We're back in a second year on

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Speaker 1: one Bills Live presented by Kalida Health. It's Buffalo Bills Radio.

810
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Speaker 1: All right, which NFL club is your number one most

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00:44:27,239 --> 00:44:30,840
Speaker 1: improved team this off season? We all know that the

812
00:44:30,840 --> 00:44:32,160
Speaker 1: proof is going to be in the pudding when they

813
00:44:32,160 --> 00:44:34,840
Speaker 1: all step on the field. But who looks the best

814
00:44:34,880 --> 00:44:38,120
Speaker 1: on paper right now in terms of making their team

815
00:44:38,239 --> 00:44:41,440
Speaker 1: significantly better than it was last year? Thad and I

816
00:44:41,480 --> 00:44:44,680
Speaker 1: are counting down our top five, and we are at

817
00:44:45,200 --> 00:44:49,920
Speaker 1: number one for each of our respective lists, So quickly

818
00:44:49,960 --> 00:44:53,080
Speaker 1: to recap, Thad, give us your five, four, three and two,

819
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Speaker 1: and then give us your one offens at five charges

820
00:44:56,840 --> 00:44:59,440
Speaker 1: at four Jets at three, Eagles at two, and my

821
00:44:59,560 --> 00:45:02,520
Speaker 1: number one the Broncos your number two for largely the

822
00:45:02,600 --> 00:45:06,320
Speaker 1: same reason. Look, we talk about adding players and impact positions.

823
00:45:06,320 --> 00:45:08,160
Speaker 1: A lot of these other teams have done that. There's

824
00:45:08,200 --> 00:45:10,640
Speaker 1: no more impact position than quarterback. And I don't know

825
00:45:10,680 --> 00:45:13,920
Speaker 1: if Russell Wilson is anymore or is still among the

826
00:45:13,960 --> 00:45:16,560
Speaker 1: top maybe three or four or five quarterbacks, but he's

827
00:45:16,560 --> 00:45:18,520
Speaker 1: still daring good. He's still weighed better than Drew Locke.

828
00:45:18,680 --> 00:45:20,719
Speaker 1: And for a team that you know, seemed like they

829
00:45:20,800 --> 00:45:24,000
Speaker 1: might be just that guy away, adding that guy is huge.

830
00:45:24,160 --> 00:45:27,360
Speaker 1: Don't overlook the fact they also nab Randy Gregory from Dallas.

831
00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:29,759
Speaker 1: I like him a lot as an edge rusher. You know,

832
00:45:29,840 --> 00:45:32,160
Speaker 1: the Broncos already have a pretty good pass rush there,

833
00:45:32,200 --> 00:45:34,600
Speaker 1: so you add him to it. I think those two

834
00:45:34,640 --> 00:45:38,920
Speaker 1: guys by themselves are pretty big steps for Denver moving forward. Yeah,

835
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Speaker 1: Number one for me was a team you already had.

836
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Speaker 1: It's the Chargers Again, as we said, premium positions addressed

837
00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:47,799
Speaker 1: in a big way. The trade for Khalil Mack, who's

838
00:45:47,800 --> 00:45:49,759
Speaker 1: going to be teamed up with Bosa, Now that's a

839
00:45:49,840 --> 00:45:53,000
Speaker 1: hell of a duo. J C. Jackson, the corner as

840
00:45:53,000 --> 00:45:56,680
Speaker 1: you mentioned, now you line him up and they have

841
00:45:56,960 --> 00:46:00,320
Speaker 1: Mike Davis on the other side. They've got Asante Samuel

842
00:46:00,320 --> 00:46:02,239
Speaker 1: as a true nickel. Now he can play there full

843
00:46:02,239 --> 00:46:04,759
Speaker 1: time with J. C. Jackson in the fold. And I

844
00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:08,560
Speaker 1: think what they did on the defensive interior is very underrated. Sebastian,

845
00:46:08,640 --> 00:46:12,719
Speaker 1: Joseph Day, Austin Johnson two solid interior defenders, and then

846
00:46:12,760 --> 00:46:14,520
Speaker 1: they strengthened their old line with their top pick in

847
00:46:14,520 --> 00:46:16,880
Speaker 1: the draft and Zion Johnson, who's probably a plug and

848
00:46:16,960 --> 00:46:19,960
Speaker 1: play guard as a rookie. They even got a backup

849
00:46:19,960 --> 00:46:22,359
Speaker 1: for Austin Eckler and Isaiah Spiller in the fourth round,

850
00:46:22,360 --> 00:46:24,680
Speaker 1: the running back out of A and M. So their

851
00:46:24,719 --> 00:46:27,520
Speaker 1: defense is going to be dramatically improved, which was their

852
00:46:27,560 --> 00:46:30,279
Speaker 1: main sticking point last year and ultimately kept them out

853
00:46:30,280 --> 00:46:34,040
Speaker 1: of the playoffs. And let's not forget there are only

854
00:46:34,080 --> 00:46:37,080
Speaker 1: two guys that passed for five thousand yards last year,

855
00:46:37,120 --> 00:46:38,920
Speaker 1: and one of them was Justin Herbert. The other was

856
00:46:39,000 --> 00:46:43,680
Speaker 1: Tom Brady. Brownie. Look, I get hooked to the Chargers

857
00:46:43,719 --> 00:46:45,560
Speaker 1: train every year. It's gonna happen to me again this

858
00:46:45,640 --> 00:46:49,520
Speaker 1: year too. I'm trying not to get overly excited about them.

859
00:46:49,719 --> 00:46:50,920
Speaker 1: This will be at least the third year in a

860
00:46:51,000 --> 00:46:52,840
Speaker 1: row where I'm like, oh, look out for the Chargers.

861
00:46:52,960 --> 00:46:54,680
Speaker 1: Charge is gonna be great this year, and then they

862
00:46:54,719 --> 00:46:56,800
Speaker 1: go in Charger during the season and don't find a

863
00:46:56,840 --> 00:46:59,520
Speaker 1: way into the playoffs or to reach that potential. So

864
00:46:59,600 --> 00:47:01,840
Speaker 1: I'm trying to back off, but I'm totally with you

865
00:47:01,880 --> 00:47:04,000
Speaker 1: on the Chargers. You know, if they won that division,

866
00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:05,840
Speaker 1: as great as that division is, it wouldn't stumb me

867
00:47:05,880 --> 00:47:08,680
Speaker 1: at all. Yeah, their problem has been injuries. They can't

868
00:47:08,719 --> 00:47:11,919
Speaker 1: stay healthy. They I mean they've got six, seven, eight

869
00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:15,520
Speaker 1: key players injured by like week four and then the

870
00:47:15,560 --> 00:47:18,319
Speaker 1: wheels fall off and they can't win games. And if

871
00:47:18,360 --> 00:47:20,960
Speaker 1: that happens in I mean, think about it, what do

872
00:47:21,080 --> 00:47:24,080
Speaker 1: we each had what three AFC West teams in our

873
00:47:24,120 --> 00:47:26,560
Speaker 1: top five? I mean if one of these team I

874
00:47:26,560 --> 00:47:28,279
Speaker 1: had the Raiders at like six. Oh that you had

875
00:47:28,280 --> 00:47:30,759
Speaker 1: the Raiders at six, right, But I mean if one

876
00:47:30,760 --> 00:47:33,080
Speaker 1: of these teams has injuries like the Chargers have had

877
00:47:33,120 --> 00:47:34,880
Speaker 1: the last few years, forget it. They're gonna be like

878
00:47:34,960 --> 00:47:38,720
Speaker 1: six and eleven. And I'll tell you what. I even

879
00:47:39,120 --> 00:47:41,920
Speaker 1: I really wasn't gonna put them in, but I toyed

880
00:47:41,920 --> 00:47:44,799
Speaker 1: with talking about the Chiefs in this segment only because look,

881
00:47:44,840 --> 00:47:46,759
Speaker 1: you lose Tyreek Hill and they've lost other guys too.

882
00:47:46,800 --> 00:47:49,960
Speaker 1: But at that wide receiver group, Tyreek Hill is such

883
00:47:49,960 --> 00:47:52,560
Speaker 1: a great individual player, but they've gone from him to

884
00:47:52,840 --> 00:47:56,239
Speaker 1: MBS to Skymore who I love the rookie and Judy

885
00:47:56,280 --> 00:47:59,320
Speaker 1: Smith Schuster. They might be a whole lot deeper receiver

886
00:47:59,400 --> 00:48:02,280
Speaker 1: than they've ever ben when it was Tyree Hill and whoever.

887
00:48:02,840 --> 00:48:05,480
Speaker 1: Um So, look, I think that whole division has done

888
00:48:05,520 --> 00:48:07,760
Speaker 1: good things in the offseason in a lot of ways.

889
00:48:07,800 --> 00:48:09,920
Speaker 1: The Chiefs aren't going to make this list, but you know,

890
00:48:10,000 --> 00:48:12,399
Speaker 1: don't underestimate them as a team that might have might

891
00:48:12,440 --> 00:48:16,319
Speaker 1: be in a better position than we'd think losing Tyreek killing. Yeah. Yeah,

892
00:48:16,360 --> 00:48:18,480
Speaker 1: so that's our list. You guys, let us know what

893
00:48:18,600 --> 00:48:22,080
Speaker 1: you think. We've got our number two coming up with

894
00:48:22,160 --> 00:48:24,840
Speaker 1: your phone calls and your tweets as we check in

895
00:48:24,880 --> 00:48:26,880
Speaker 1: on the tweet sheet to see who you guys feel

896
00:48:27,480 --> 00:48:30,680
Speaker 1: is the most improved NFL club this offseason, and please

897
00:48:30,719 --> 00:48:32,719
Speaker 1: tell us why as well. Don't just list a team

898
00:48:32,760 --> 00:48:37,120
Speaker 1: and say out give us a reason why you think that.

899
00:48:37,600 --> 00:48:42,040
Speaker 1: Um quick little note here said that I saw regarding

900
00:48:42,040 --> 00:48:44,279
Speaker 1: the XFL. I don't know if you saw this, but

901
00:48:44,320 --> 00:48:47,879
Speaker 1: they named some coaching additions to their respective teams. They

902
00:48:47,920 --> 00:48:53,160
Speaker 1: include two former Bill's head coaches. Did you see the list? No? Okay,

903
00:48:53,160 --> 00:48:56,160
Speaker 1: so yeah, that's why. That's why I'm glad you didn't

904
00:48:56,160 --> 00:48:57,759
Speaker 1: see it. So if you had to guess, who are

905
00:48:57,800 --> 00:49:00,359
Speaker 1: the two coaches that you think are gonna be either

906
00:49:00,520 --> 00:49:03,440
Speaker 1: a a head coach or be an assistant coach, because

907
00:49:03,440 --> 00:49:09,960
Speaker 1: it's one and one Doug marrone. No, okay, So is

908
00:49:10,000 --> 00:49:12,399
Speaker 1: it one former Bills assistant one former head No, it's

909
00:49:12,400 --> 00:49:15,040
Speaker 1: two former Bills head coaches. But one is going to

910
00:49:15,080 --> 00:49:16,839
Speaker 1: be a head coach in the antics fl the other

911
00:49:16,920 --> 00:49:19,360
Speaker 1: is going to be a coordinator. Well, Greg Williams, we

912
00:49:19,440 --> 00:49:21,839
Speaker 1: perfectly the X gotta be him, right, He is going

913
00:49:21,880 --> 00:49:25,560
Speaker 1: to be a defensive coordinator. Correct? Nice? Okay, So the

914
00:49:25,600 --> 00:49:30,120
Speaker 1: other one, we're not counting Perry Fuel. Will that be

915
00:49:30,160 --> 00:49:32,960
Speaker 1: a guess? We are not counting Perry Fuel. No, okay,

916
00:49:33,480 --> 00:49:35,799
Speaker 1: it's not Dick Dron Is it a God? No, it

917
00:49:35,880 --> 00:49:39,239
Speaker 1: is not Dick Or I was gonna say, who am

918
00:49:39,239 --> 00:49:40,920
Speaker 1: I missing? Let me think I will give you a

919
00:49:41,000 --> 00:49:44,120
Speaker 1: hind Rex Ryan. It is not Rex Ryan. It is

920
00:49:44,120 --> 00:49:47,440
Speaker 1: a guy who recently took a picture with a dude

921
00:49:47,440 --> 00:49:49,600
Speaker 1: that is fronting a lot of the money for the

922
00:49:49,719 --> 00:49:52,680
Speaker 1: XFL and is the face of the XFL. He actually

923
00:49:52,680 --> 00:49:55,680
Speaker 1: took a picture with him. I think it was on Twitter.

924
00:49:56,800 --> 00:50:02,200
Speaker 1: He took a picture with the rock. Um, I should

925
00:50:02,239 --> 00:50:04,400
Speaker 1: know the name. You didn't see the post because if

926
00:50:04,400 --> 00:50:06,799
Speaker 1: you saw the post, you'd know right away. Yeah. I

927
00:50:06,840 --> 00:50:09,600
Speaker 1: thought I was helping you, and I probably didn't. Yeah, No,

928
00:50:09,920 --> 00:50:12,720
Speaker 1: that's okay. Um, I know I can see the face.

929
00:50:13,080 --> 00:50:17,960
Speaker 1: I'm missing the name. It's the post. Greg Williams, predict

930
00:50:17,960 --> 00:50:21,799
Speaker 1: Giron coach. He was offensive guy in Buffalo two years given.

931
00:50:21,840 --> 00:50:25,880
Speaker 1: I should know. It's not it's not Michael. It's all okay, okay,

932
00:50:25,920 --> 00:50:30,040
Speaker 1: but I'm out. It's actually Wade Phillips. All right, it's

933
00:50:30,080 --> 00:50:32,839
Speaker 1: Wade Phillips on the wrong side of seventies. He's gonna

934
00:50:32,840 --> 00:50:35,760
Speaker 1: be the head coach of one of these XFL teams.

935
00:50:35,880 --> 00:50:38,760
Speaker 1: So there is the league is assembling these coaching staffs

936
00:50:39,000 --> 00:50:41,560
Speaker 1: and they're gonna as sign them to teams later. I've

937
00:50:41,640 --> 00:50:44,640
Speaker 1: never this is insane. I've never seen that. But that's

938
00:50:44,640 --> 00:50:47,200
Speaker 1: what they're doing. That's how they're building. And I think

939
00:50:47,200 --> 00:50:49,600
Speaker 1: that the new USFL kind of built that way too. Yeah.

940
00:50:49,640 --> 00:50:52,680
Speaker 1: The USFL plays their entire league down in Birmingham, you know.

941
00:50:52,880 --> 00:50:56,399
Speaker 1: So it's not about France forming franchises and coming together.

942
00:50:56,520 --> 00:50:58,200
Speaker 1: It's about we're gonna build a league and then we're

943
00:50:58,200 --> 00:51:00,839
Speaker 1: gonna kind of farm everything out everywhere. Want them to go. Yeah,

944
00:51:00,880 --> 00:51:02,799
Speaker 1: I guess it's I guess it saves money that way.

945
00:51:02,840 --> 00:51:05,120
Speaker 1: That's the only thing I can think of, But there

946
00:51:05,160 --> 00:51:07,680
Speaker 1: it is. Greg Williams will be a defensive coordinator for

947
00:51:07,719 --> 00:51:10,800
Speaker 1: a team in the XFL next year, and Wade Phillips

948
00:51:11,040 --> 00:51:13,200
Speaker 1: will be a head coach next year in the XFL.

949
00:51:13,600 --> 00:51:17,000
Speaker 1: I think he's gonna be seventy one next year. So

950
00:51:17,800 --> 00:51:19,719
Speaker 1: they can't give it up, man, they can't give it up.

951
00:51:19,719 --> 00:51:22,880
Speaker 1: You gotta keep on trucking. Hey, God bless Wade Phillips

952
00:51:22,880 --> 00:51:24,520
Speaker 1: still want to be a head coach. I'm telling you, man,

953
00:51:25,160 --> 00:51:29,239
Speaker 1: that's gonna be frustrating. I don't know, just running a

954
00:51:29,320 --> 00:51:31,759
Speaker 1: startup team at age seventy one, that's a lot. That's

955
00:51:31,760 --> 00:51:33,320
Speaker 1: a heavy lift. I don't know if I'd be signing

956
00:51:33,400 --> 00:51:36,040
Speaker 1: up for that, I'd I'd be counting my dollars and

957
00:51:36,120 --> 00:51:39,240
Speaker 1: drinking my diet doctor peppers on a lounge chair somewhere

958
00:51:39,239 --> 00:51:42,080
Speaker 1: in West Texas. We have to take a break here.

959
00:51:42,239 --> 00:51:45,320
Speaker 1: When we come back, your thoughts on who you feel

960
00:51:45,400 --> 00:51:49,200
Speaker 1: is the most improved NFL club this offseason with your

961
00:51:49,239 --> 00:51:51,920
Speaker 1: phone calls and your tweets. Next here on One Bill's Live,

962
00:51:51,960 --> 00:52:12,279
Speaker 1: presented by Kalid to Health, It's Buffalo Bill's Radio. At

963
00:52:12,320 --> 00:52:15,800
Speaker 1: a Steve Tasker who has been all over the fields.

964
00:52:15,920 --> 00:52:17,480
Speaker 1: Kind of unique. He was kind of a dual role

965
00:52:17,560 --> 00:52:23,919
Speaker 1: player for you, state Steve a blimp. We're not even

966
00:52:23,960 --> 00:52:30,000
Speaker 1: in the stratgere of normalcy, all right. Our number two

967
00:52:30,080 --> 00:52:32,920
Speaker 1: Chris Brown, Dad Brown, with you sports directors w r

968
00:52:32,960 --> 00:52:37,120
Speaker 1: OCTV in Rochester, helping me out here while Steve is

969
00:52:37,840 --> 00:52:42,480
Speaker 1: out for the week, and we're talking about most improved

970
00:52:42,480 --> 00:52:45,080
Speaker 1: teams in the NFL, Dad, and I gave you our

971
00:52:45,160 --> 00:52:47,760
Speaker 1: top five. All we need from you is which single

972
00:52:47,840 --> 00:52:50,400
Speaker 1: team in the NFL do you believe is improved the

973
00:52:50,440 --> 00:52:53,239
Speaker 1: most this offseason? And let us know why? Eight oh

974
00:52:53,320 --> 00:52:56,080
Speaker 1: three oh five fifty the number two call to let

975
00:52:56,160 --> 00:52:58,480
Speaker 1: us know or one eight eight eight five fifty two

976
00:52:58,520 --> 00:53:03,560
Speaker 1: five fifty toll free and we'll get to your calls

977
00:53:04,080 --> 00:53:06,960
Speaker 1: as we have open lines for you here shortly. But

978
00:53:07,320 --> 00:53:11,040
Speaker 1: let's go to the tweet sheet here first, and I

979
00:53:11,120 --> 00:53:16,319
Speaker 1: had Chargers number one that had Bronchos number one. Be

980
00:53:16,400 --> 00:53:18,960
Speaker 1: interesting to see what you have. So tweet sheet has

981
00:53:18,960 --> 00:53:21,400
Speaker 1: always brought to you by Corrigan Moving Systems, the official

982
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Speaker 1: equipment moving company of the Buffalo Bills. Randall leads us

983
00:53:24,760 --> 00:53:28,840
Speaker 1: off and he says the Jets not for immediate success,

984
00:53:28,880 --> 00:53:31,480
Speaker 1: but for the future. All those high draft picks will

985
00:53:31,520 --> 00:53:33,680
Speaker 1: help the team in years to come. Otherwise, it's Denver.

986
00:53:34,200 --> 00:53:37,760
Speaker 1: Adding Wilson to that offense is huge. Judy coming back,

987
00:53:38,120 --> 00:53:41,640
Speaker 1: Sutton will have a better year along with a good defense.

988
00:53:41,920 --> 00:53:46,120
Speaker 1: Question for you on the Broncos, though, fad, is the

989
00:53:46,200 --> 00:53:49,360
Speaker 1: defense going to be just as good with Vic Fangio

990
00:53:49,480 --> 00:53:52,120
Speaker 1: no longer the head coach. I mean he's known as

991
00:53:52,120 --> 00:53:55,279
Speaker 1: the defensive guru. How much does that defense slip, if

992
00:53:55,320 --> 00:53:58,880
Speaker 1: at all, with no Fangio anymore. I think it'll be

993
00:53:58,920 --> 00:54:01,520
Speaker 1: a hit. You know, I think Fangio did a good job,

994
00:54:01,640 --> 00:54:04,960
Speaker 1: I think solidifying that defense. Um, you know who is

995
00:54:05,000 --> 00:54:07,000
Speaker 1: the defensive cordiner there? Now? I don't even know. Yeah,

996
00:54:07,040 --> 00:54:08,520
Speaker 1: I don't. I'm not gonna off top of that, I'm

997
00:54:08,560 --> 00:54:11,560
Speaker 1: not going to pretend to know either. No, um, um,

998
00:54:11,960 --> 00:54:14,840
Speaker 1: you know. I mean, look they have it's still um

999
00:54:15,440 --> 00:54:17,640
Speaker 1: like I said, they grab Randy Gregory as a pass rusher.

1000
00:54:17,719 --> 00:54:23,520
Speaker 1: The other side is um the research draft job. Thank you.

1001
00:54:23,840 --> 00:54:26,920
Speaker 1: So I mean they look they have guys um you

1002
00:54:26,960 --> 00:54:29,840
Speaker 1: know still at uh you know, important positions there. I

1003
00:54:29,840 --> 00:54:32,720
Speaker 1: don't think. I don't think losing that coach is gonna

1004
00:54:32,719 --> 00:54:35,719
Speaker 1: make that big a difference. But um, look Fangio has

1005
00:54:35,719 --> 00:54:40,600
Speaker 1: been at Donotel's the defensive coordinator. No, no opinion. Um,

1006
00:54:40,719 --> 00:54:43,480
Speaker 1: so I think it'll be an impact, but but not

1007
00:54:43,560 --> 00:54:45,919
Speaker 1: that big of an impact in my opinion. Yeah, I'm

1008
00:54:46,000 --> 00:54:51,799
Speaker 1: not a huge fan of Donotel. Um I always get

1009
00:54:52,000 --> 00:54:54,440
Speaker 1: at best, I would say, yeah, I always get a

1010
00:54:54,480 --> 00:55:03,120
Speaker 1: little bit concerned when head coaches r in coordinators who

1011
00:55:03,160 --> 00:55:06,440
Speaker 1: have just been around. Because they've been around. I mean,

1012
00:55:06,520 --> 00:55:12,520
Speaker 1: Donna Tell has not really excelled as a as a coordinator,

1013
00:55:13,600 --> 00:55:16,400
Speaker 1: I want to say since the late nineties. I mean

1014
00:55:16,440 --> 00:55:19,880
Speaker 1: it's been a while and I'm not trying to be

1015
00:55:19,960 --> 00:55:23,280
Speaker 1: agist with this comment here, but he just hasn't done

1016
00:55:23,760 --> 00:55:27,600
Speaker 1: He hasn't excelled in his role in a while. That's

1017
00:55:27,640 --> 00:55:29,799
Speaker 1: not to say, you know, coaches in their sixties can't

1018
00:55:29,800 --> 00:55:31,439
Speaker 1: do it. Look at Leslie Fraser's leading in the league

1019
00:55:31,480 --> 00:55:33,600
Speaker 1: in defense. He's had a top three unit like three

1020
00:55:33,640 --> 00:55:37,480
Speaker 1: of the last five years. But Donna Hettel hasn't done

1021
00:55:37,480 --> 00:55:42,399
Speaker 1: a whole lot in a long time. And so I'm

1022
00:55:42,440 --> 00:55:45,160
Speaker 1: a little wary now that now that I've been made

1023
00:55:45,160 --> 00:55:48,560
Speaker 1: aware of these guys they're defensive coordinat now even more

1024
00:55:48,560 --> 00:55:52,080
Speaker 1: concerned the one day I'll say about coordinators, and I've

1025
00:55:52,080 --> 00:55:54,040
Speaker 1: done research on this, a little more on the offensive

1026
00:55:54,040 --> 00:55:57,440
Speaker 1: side than the defensive side. But generally, good coordinators are

1027
00:55:57,480 --> 00:55:59,359
Speaker 1: guys that have good players. Like I don't know if

1028
00:55:59,360 --> 00:56:02,839
Speaker 1: there really is that's true wordinator out there that makes

1029
00:56:02,840 --> 00:56:06,000
Speaker 1: the head coaches. Yes, but you know, Cord, there's only

1030
00:56:06,120 --> 00:56:09,080
Speaker 1: been a few, you know. I think Wade Phillips defensively

1031
00:56:09,200 --> 00:56:11,839
Speaker 1: is one of those guys. So for the even look

1032
00:56:11,840 --> 00:56:13,960
Speaker 1: at Brian Dable, he was a coordinator of three different

1033
00:56:14,000 --> 00:56:16,440
Speaker 1: styles for King to Buffalo, didn't do anything because he

1034
00:56:16,480 --> 00:56:18,959
Speaker 1: never had a quarterback anywhere near With Josh Allen, yeah,

1035
00:56:19,040 --> 00:56:21,800
Speaker 1: I think in large part when it comes to coordinators,

1036
00:56:22,040 --> 00:56:24,120
Speaker 1: if the players are good, then the coordinator probably will

1037
00:56:24,160 --> 00:56:27,640
Speaker 1: look good. Yeah that's fair. I'll buy that for a dollar.

1038
00:56:27,680 --> 00:56:30,640
Speaker 1: I don't have a problem with that number two on

1039
00:56:30,680 --> 00:56:35,080
Speaker 1: the tweet sheet, Dapperde says, just trading for Russell Wilson

1040
00:56:35,080 --> 00:56:37,640
Speaker 1: alone unquestionably makes stand for the most improved team. Their

1041
00:56:37,680 --> 00:56:40,080
Speaker 1: quarterback situation went from near the bottom of the league

1042
00:56:40,400 --> 00:56:44,040
Speaker 1: to top ten instantly. And you know, in what is

1043
00:56:44,040 --> 00:56:48,000
Speaker 1: a quarterback league, sad like I said, you get a

1044
00:56:48,000 --> 00:56:50,680
Speaker 1: guy like Wilson who's probably the best of the lot

1045
00:56:50,719 --> 00:56:53,799
Speaker 1: in terms of the guys that were available. Yeah, I

1046
00:56:53,840 --> 00:56:57,360
Speaker 1: mean it's it shoots you up the board in terms

1047
00:56:57,400 --> 00:57:00,840
Speaker 1: of relevance and being a threat to the other teams

1048
00:57:00,840 --> 00:57:05,320
Speaker 1: in the AFC. I'm just wondering, though, how many wins

1049
00:57:05,400 --> 00:57:07,680
Speaker 1: is it gonna take to win that division? Is eleven

1050
00:57:07,800 --> 00:57:09,799
Speaker 1: gonna be good enough just because you're gonna be all

1051
00:57:09,840 --> 00:57:12,440
Speaker 1: beaten up on each other. I'm wondering, like, eleven and

1052
00:57:12,480 --> 00:57:15,759
Speaker 1: six does that win the AFC West? I think it does,

1053
00:57:15,880 --> 00:57:17,920
Speaker 1: But I think you've got to kind of got to

1054
00:57:17,960 --> 00:57:20,600
Speaker 1: curve the records. So eleven and six in the AFCUS

1055
00:57:20,760 --> 00:57:22,600
Speaker 1: is probably thirteen and four everywhere else. You know that,

1056
00:57:22,600 --> 00:57:24,040
Speaker 1: That's kind of the way you gotta look at it,

1057
00:57:24,760 --> 00:57:27,040
Speaker 1: you know, So getting to that number of wins is

1058
00:57:27,040 --> 00:57:28,920
Speaker 1: not going to be any sort of easy. Task. The

1059
00:57:28,960 --> 00:57:30,160
Speaker 1: one other thing about it I want to say with

1060
00:57:30,200 --> 00:57:33,360
Speaker 1: the Broncos, going back to the last tweet, the guy

1061
00:57:33,520 --> 00:57:36,040
Speaker 1: was talking about Jerry Judy coming back in Courtland Sutton.

1062
00:57:36,560 --> 00:57:39,600
Speaker 1: This team has had that group of young receivers for

1063
00:57:39,640 --> 00:57:42,200
Speaker 1: a couple of years. Now, Wow, the Judy is good

1064
00:57:42,200 --> 00:57:44,760
Speaker 1: and got all this potential Courtland Sutton, We've seen it

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00:57:44,800 --> 00:57:46,720
Speaker 1: from time to time. I don't know if they have

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00:57:46,760 --> 00:57:49,040
Speaker 1: a legit number one receiver and that team. You know,

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00:57:49,280 --> 00:57:52,400
Speaker 1: they've got guys who we think could be that, or

1068
00:57:52,440 --> 00:57:55,160
Speaker 1: if showing signs of that, but neither one, especially Sutton,

1069
00:57:55,400 --> 00:57:58,800
Speaker 1: have not been consistently week after week. You know that

1070
00:57:58,960 --> 00:58:01,520
Speaker 1: kind of stefan digs. You know, I'm gonna take on

1071
00:58:01,520 --> 00:58:03,080
Speaker 1: your number one corner. I'm gonna be the guy you

1072
00:58:03,200 --> 00:58:05,240
Speaker 1: depend on all the time. And to me, that makes

1073
00:58:05,240 --> 00:58:08,320
Speaker 1: a difference. Russell Wilson's always had that in Seattle to

1074
00:58:08,360 --> 00:58:12,480
Speaker 1: some degree. Well right, but to your quarterback point with coordinators,

1075
00:58:12,480 --> 00:58:16,000
Speaker 1: I think the same applies to receivers. And Sutton did

1076
00:58:16,040 --> 00:58:19,560
Speaker 1: have a big year and then the next year he

1077
00:58:19,640 --> 00:58:22,600
Speaker 1: came in high expectations, blows out his knee in like

1078
00:58:22,640 --> 00:58:25,120
Speaker 1: week two or three, and he's out for the year

1079
00:58:25,160 --> 00:58:27,520
Speaker 1: he comes back. Last year, he still doesn't look right

1080
00:58:27,840 --> 00:58:31,760
Speaker 1: and he's got, you know, a lousy quarterback throwing to him.

1081
00:58:32,400 --> 00:58:34,960
Speaker 1: We'll know this year exactly what they have at the

1082
00:58:35,040 --> 00:58:39,280
Speaker 1: receiver position. I think Tim Patrick is an underrated number three.

1083
00:58:39,720 --> 00:58:43,120
Speaker 1: And then kJ Hamler, granted he's coming back from an ACL,

1084
00:58:43,240 --> 00:58:45,880
Speaker 1: but that's not a bad number four. I mean, my god,

1085
00:58:45,920 --> 00:58:47,680
Speaker 1: you could do a lot worse than kJ hamdlers your

1086
00:58:47,760 --> 00:58:51,760
Speaker 1: number four receivers. So yeah, they're incredibly they're incredibly deep.

1087
00:58:51,800 --> 00:58:53,320
Speaker 1: I just don't know if they have that elite guy

1088
00:58:53,360 --> 00:58:56,120
Speaker 1: at the top. But your your quarterback point is excellent. Yeah.

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00:58:56,280 --> 00:59:00,320
Speaker 1: Jack on the tweet sheet says, I'd say, Denver, this

1090
00:59:00,360 --> 00:59:02,160
Speaker 1: is where are we going all the way through here

1091
00:59:02,160 --> 00:59:04,320
Speaker 1: with Oh no, we're not. Okay, I'd say Denver, they

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00:59:04,320 --> 00:59:06,200
Speaker 1: added a stud of QB who knows what it takes

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00:59:06,240 --> 00:59:09,360
Speaker 1: to win. Blah blah blah blah blah. It's a QB

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00:59:09,520 --> 00:59:12,760
Speaker 1: driven league. Denver added a beast there, and thus they're

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00:59:12,800 --> 00:59:15,560
Speaker 1: the most improved. Okay, fair enough, we've I think we've

1096
00:59:15,560 --> 00:59:19,080
Speaker 1: belabored that point. Steve on the tweet sheet says, every

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00:59:19,120 --> 00:59:21,920
Speaker 1: team in the AFC West other than the Chiefs. Wow,

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00:59:22,040 --> 00:59:24,680
Speaker 1: what a juggernaut of a division. Having to play the

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00:59:24,680 --> 00:59:28,480
Speaker 1: AFC West this year is a gauntlet for any opposing team. Well,

1100
00:59:28,520 --> 00:59:31,240
Speaker 1: fortunately the Bills don't play the AFC West. Neither do

1101
00:59:31,280 --> 00:59:33,040
Speaker 1: any of the other teams in the AFC East. They

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00:59:33,040 --> 00:59:35,960
Speaker 1: just have to play the Chiefs in the Cross Intra Division.

1103
00:59:36,640 --> 00:59:41,160
Speaker 1: Finish in your division game. Do you know off the

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00:59:41,200 --> 00:59:44,200
Speaker 1: top of your head, Fad, which division in the AFC

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00:59:44,400 --> 00:59:46,800
Speaker 1: has to play the AFC West. It's not the North,

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00:59:47,720 --> 00:59:49,600
Speaker 1: it's South, South and West. Since the Bills are gonna

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00:59:49,600 --> 00:59:51,080
Speaker 1: play all the North, teams in the South and the

1108
00:59:51,080 --> 00:59:53,320
Speaker 1: West have to play each other. So the one thing,

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00:59:53,360 --> 00:59:55,640
Speaker 1: you know, we talk about how the West is gonna

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00:59:55,720 --> 00:59:58,200
Speaker 1: just beat each other up all year long. It's gonna

1111
00:59:58,200 --> 01:00:00,800
Speaker 1: be tough. Well, they all get to have breathers against

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01:00:00,840 --> 01:00:05,680
Speaker 1: the Jags and the Texts against Houston, and they probably

1113
01:00:05,720 --> 01:00:10,120
Speaker 1: play the weakest pair of division contenders in Indianapolis and

1114
01:00:10,160 --> 01:00:13,640
Speaker 1: Tennessee of anybody in that conference. Now that I think

1115
01:00:13,680 --> 01:00:16,280
Speaker 1: the second place team in the South is probably better

1116
01:00:16,320 --> 01:00:18,439
Speaker 1: than the second place team in the AFC East. But

1117
01:00:18,560 --> 01:00:20,840
Speaker 1: the Bills are better than both those teams, So you know,

1118
01:00:20,920 --> 01:00:23,920
Speaker 1: from that point of view, there are some extra wins

1119
01:00:23,960 --> 01:00:25,920
Speaker 1: that will be afford to the AFC West because you

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01:00:25,920 --> 01:00:28,680
Speaker 1: get to play the South this year. Yeah, Pat on

1121
01:00:28,720 --> 01:00:30,840
Speaker 1: the tweet sheet says, I'd have to say the Jets

1122
01:00:30,840 --> 01:00:33,080
Speaker 1: had an a plus draft this spring and the Chargers

1123
01:00:33,120 --> 01:00:36,720
Speaker 1: did well also. With three first round picks of plug

1124
01:00:36,800 --> 01:00:39,720
Speaker 1: in and play guys is huge. We'll get to see

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Speaker 1: how well they did. It will only make us better.

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Speaker 1: I think you and I, though, are still in agreement

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01:00:45,400 --> 01:00:50,200
Speaker 1: that they're unproven. I mean a lot of these. I mean, look,

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Speaker 1: they had a great draft. The Jets had a great draft.

1129
01:00:52,120 --> 01:00:55,439
Speaker 1: Joe Douglas did fantastic and even some of the free

1130
01:00:55,440 --> 01:00:59,080
Speaker 1: ancient acquisitions that you pointed out are worth noting too.

1131
01:01:00,560 --> 01:01:04,000
Speaker 1: Carl Lawson, I think is a question mark because some guys,

1132
01:01:04,320 --> 01:01:09,840
Speaker 1: especially at those high impact, burst type positions like pass rusher, corner,

1133
01:01:10,520 --> 01:01:13,360
Speaker 1: sometimes they just don't look the same after an Achilles injury.

1134
01:01:13,720 --> 01:01:16,440
Speaker 1: I know the technology has gotten better in repairing those,

1135
01:01:17,000 --> 01:01:19,440
Speaker 1: but Carl Lawson's a question mark. So the fact that

1136
01:01:19,440 --> 01:01:23,919
Speaker 1: they drafted Jermaine Johnson was big when they traded back

1137
01:01:23,960 --> 01:01:30,120
Speaker 1: up into the bottom around one. Basically, this draft isn't

1138
01:01:30,160 --> 01:01:33,600
Speaker 1: a success unless this Jets coaching staff can prove that

1139
01:01:33,680 --> 01:01:35,960
Speaker 1: they excel in an area where the Bills coaching staff

1140
01:01:36,000 --> 01:01:40,880
Speaker 1: excels in, and that's player development. Yeah, it goes with

1141
01:01:41,000 --> 01:01:43,160
Speaker 1: every team every draft. I mean that's you know, that's

1142
01:01:43,160 --> 01:01:46,440
Speaker 1: a common theme. I think what the reason you look

1143
01:01:46,440 --> 01:01:49,680
Speaker 1: at the Jets and are encouraged optimistic about their draft is.

1144
01:01:49,960 --> 01:01:52,080
Speaker 1: You know, like I said a couple of segments ago,

1145
01:01:52,480 --> 01:01:55,439
Speaker 1: the guys they landed were arguably the best in their

1146
01:01:55,440 --> 01:01:58,000
Speaker 1: position at the draft. I mean, they might have gotten

1147
01:01:58,360 --> 01:02:01,400
Speaker 1: every single offensive skills the best player in the draft,

1148
01:02:01,480 --> 01:02:04,200
Speaker 1: so you know the building blocks are there, but you're right.

1149
01:02:04,240 --> 01:02:06,480
Speaker 1: I mean, look, I'm no Garrett Wilson fan, you know,

1150
01:02:06,520 --> 01:02:09,000
Speaker 1: I know some people thought he was the best receiver

1151
01:02:09,080 --> 01:02:10,640
Speaker 1: in the draft. People I think look at him as

1152
01:02:10,680 --> 01:02:13,480
Speaker 1: it's Devon Digg's type, you know, just a really quick,

1153
01:02:13,560 --> 01:02:16,960
Speaker 1: sudden route runner, good after the catch. But I don't

1154
01:02:17,000 --> 01:02:19,920
Speaker 1: see anything in this guy's college film that makes me

1155
01:02:19,960 --> 01:02:22,640
Speaker 1: think he's elite or dominating anyone area. I think he's

1156
01:02:22,640 --> 01:02:25,680
Speaker 1: gonna be a solid NFL player, but not a star,

1157
01:02:26,280 --> 01:02:28,440
Speaker 1: you know. And then after, I mean, like on this

1158
01:02:28,480 --> 01:02:30,560
Speaker 1: Ohio State team, I thought Chris olav was a better

1159
01:02:30,600 --> 01:02:32,640
Speaker 1: receiver this year, and the guy that had come out

1160
01:02:32,720 --> 01:02:35,280
Speaker 1: next year's pretty much universally looked at as the best

1161
01:02:35,280 --> 01:02:38,560
Speaker 1: of the three. And then beyond that, Jermaine Johnson. There's

1162
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Speaker 1: a reason he fell all the way down to twenty six.

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Speaker 1: First of all, he's an older guy just in terms

1164
01:02:42,360 --> 01:02:46,480
Speaker 1: of little age. And number two, he's not fast. You know,

1165
01:02:46,840 --> 01:02:50,440
Speaker 1: people love kvon Thibodeau because he was von Miller quick

1166
01:02:50,800 --> 01:02:54,080
Speaker 1: getting to the quarterback. Jermaine Johnson is a hand technician.

1167
01:02:54,120 --> 01:02:56,840
Speaker 1: He's really good at it. But the other part of

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01:02:56,880 --> 01:02:58,480
Speaker 1: it is there's not a whole lot. It looks like

1169
01:02:58,480 --> 01:03:00,720
Speaker 1: you can teach him in the NFL. Most guys who

1170
01:03:00,720 --> 01:03:03,600
Speaker 1: come in as pass rushers, they're elite athletes. You see

1171
01:03:03,680 --> 01:03:06,000
Speaker 1: the speed in the quickness, and then you teach them

1172
01:03:06,000 --> 01:03:08,720
Speaker 1: all the hand technique. Well, Johnson's calling Carter is already

1173
01:03:08,720 --> 01:03:11,040
Speaker 1: hand technique. He doesn't have any of the athletics stuff,

1174
01:03:11,120 --> 01:03:13,040
Speaker 1: so how much better can he get? So those are

1175
01:03:13,120 --> 01:03:15,840
Speaker 1: two big questions that I think are very reasonable for

1176
01:03:15,960 --> 01:03:18,240
Speaker 1: two of the three first round picks the Jets have.

1177
01:03:18,560 --> 01:03:21,440
Speaker 1: And then you just go into the regular variants of yeah,

1178
01:03:21,480 --> 01:03:23,200
Speaker 1: we all love Sauce Garner, but maybe he's just not

1179
01:03:23,200 --> 01:03:25,280
Speaker 1: gonna work out and all of a sudden, you wonder

1180
01:03:25,280 --> 01:03:28,080
Speaker 1: if this three person first round we'll even work out

1181
01:03:28,120 --> 01:03:30,400
Speaker 1: for the Jets. Remember, the Dolphins had one of these

1182
01:03:30,440 --> 01:03:34,760
Speaker 1: two years ago with Tuah and Noel beIN A the

1183
01:03:34,800 --> 01:03:37,760
Speaker 1: defensive back whose name might always get wrong, and tackle

1184
01:03:37,800 --> 01:03:40,280
Speaker 1: Austin Jackson. And none of those guys have been very

1185
01:03:40,280 --> 01:03:42,280
Speaker 1: good so far. Right, So, just because the Jets have

1186
01:03:42,320 --> 01:03:44,600
Speaker 1: three guys in the first round does not mean any

1187
01:03:44,640 --> 01:03:46,360
Speaker 1: of them are gonna work out. Yeah, And I know

1188
01:03:46,600 --> 01:03:48,439
Speaker 1: you and I have been around long enough to see

1189
01:03:48,480 --> 01:03:51,640
Speaker 1: a countless number of Bill's coaching staffs that have been

1190
01:03:51,800 --> 01:03:56,320
Speaker 1: unable to make high draft choices after they get here

1191
01:03:56,400 --> 01:03:59,400
Speaker 1: appreciably better. I mean, you can make the argument Marcel

1192
01:03:59,480 --> 01:04:01,960
Speaker 1: Darius walked in here, a very talented player, is the

1193
01:04:01,960 --> 01:04:05,200
Speaker 1: third overall pick, and he had a couple of productive seasons.

1194
01:04:05,200 --> 01:04:08,120
Speaker 1: But did his career arc kind of go up and

1195
01:04:08,200 --> 01:04:09,840
Speaker 1: up and up or did was he just kind of

1196
01:04:09,840 --> 01:04:12,480
Speaker 1: a leveling off guy? And there have been other guys

1197
01:04:12,520 --> 01:04:15,520
Speaker 1: like that that have come through here on various coaching staffs,

1198
01:04:15,520 --> 01:04:19,600
Speaker 1: Which is why I think the biggest separator with McDermott's

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Speaker 1: coaching staff from the ones that came before him is

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01:04:22,160 --> 01:04:25,440
Speaker 1: they players get better after they get here, even if

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01:04:25,480 --> 01:04:29,040
Speaker 1: they're already good. And I think the other part of

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01:04:29,040 --> 01:04:30,920
Speaker 1: that with the mcdermot's staff is that they've had the

1203
01:04:31,000 --> 01:04:33,440
Speaker 1: time to develop. How many of these guys have gotten

1204
01:04:33,480 --> 01:04:38,200
Speaker 1: better in year three? Devin Singleton, Dawson Knox, Dion Dawkins.

1205
01:04:38,240 --> 01:04:41,360
Speaker 1: You know these other coaching staffs. The Jets are already

1206
01:04:41,400 --> 01:04:43,480
Speaker 1: in a year two of Robert Sala, which means if

1207
01:04:43,520 --> 01:04:46,680
Speaker 1: things don't immediately get better, you might have two years

1208
01:04:46,720 --> 01:04:49,720
Speaker 1: at most with Gardner and Wilson and Jermaine Johnson, and

1209
01:04:49,760 --> 01:04:51,920
Speaker 1: then all of a sudden you're recycling a coaching staff again.

1210
01:04:52,240 --> 01:04:54,600
Speaker 1: This is a good way to make sure guys don't

1211
01:04:54,600 --> 01:04:57,080
Speaker 1: develop when they're learning something over and over every other

1212
01:04:57,120 --> 01:05:00,240
Speaker 1: season in Buffalo, that doesn't happen. Becase's been the same

1213
01:05:00,240 --> 01:05:03,320
Speaker 1: message for five consecutive years, and it very likely be

1214
01:05:03,360 --> 01:05:06,680
Speaker 1: the same message five years going forward. Yeah. David on

1215
01:05:06,720 --> 01:05:08,840
Speaker 1: the tweet sheet says the good news for the Bills

1216
01:05:09,480 --> 01:05:11,880
Speaker 1: is that, yes, the Jets and the Fish are improved,

1217
01:05:11,920 --> 01:05:13,840
Speaker 1: but both teams are a year away from being a

1218
01:05:13,920 --> 01:05:17,320
Speaker 1: year away. The Jets rookies are great, but they're still rookies.

1219
01:05:17,360 --> 01:05:19,280
Speaker 1: The Fish will need a year for the new head

1220
01:05:19,320 --> 01:05:22,240
Speaker 1: coach to build a culture even with new great players.

1221
01:05:22,360 --> 01:05:24,280
Speaker 1: I think that's the one thing that people are forgetting about.

1222
01:05:24,320 --> 01:05:27,840
Speaker 1: As excited as people are about Tyreek Hill and all

1223
01:05:27,840 --> 01:05:31,120
Speaker 1: the other editions that the Dolphins made in free agency

1224
01:05:31,800 --> 01:05:36,640
Speaker 1: and to a much lesser extent, the draft, it's also

1225
01:05:36,680 --> 01:05:39,440
Speaker 1: a new coach, which means a new scheme on offense

1226
01:05:39,440 --> 01:05:43,280
Speaker 1: for Tua, and I just think that that's going to

1227
01:05:43,360 --> 01:05:46,040
Speaker 1: take some time. That's why I was kind of happy

1228
01:05:46,080 --> 01:05:48,440
Speaker 1: to see the Bills get the Dolphins in the first

1229
01:05:48,440 --> 01:05:50,959
Speaker 1: month of the season before they really have their feet

1230
01:05:51,000 --> 01:05:53,800
Speaker 1: under them. You know, in the new system, the Bills

1231
01:05:53,800 --> 01:05:55,920
Speaker 1: are gonna have an opportunity to feast on those guys

1232
01:05:56,320 --> 01:05:58,720
Speaker 1: before they've got all their ducks in a row. And

1233
01:05:58,760 --> 01:06:02,200
Speaker 1: so I think that's vantage Bills in Week three on

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01:06:02,240 --> 01:06:05,880
Speaker 1: September twenty fifth. The one thing I think David is

1235
01:06:05,920 --> 01:06:09,000
Speaker 1: overlooking here is, and I know, especially with a new

1236
01:06:09,040 --> 01:06:11,720
Speaker 1: head coach, generally it takes time to develop. It doesn't

1237
01:06:11,720 --> 01:06:13,760
Speaker 1: always take time, you know. I mean, Sean McVay walked

1238
01:06:13,760 --> 01:06:16,160
Speaker 1: into the Rams and made Jared Goff a super Bowl

1239
01:06:16,160 --> 01:06:19,200
Speaker 1: caliber quarterback like that, you know, so it's not necessarily

1240
01:06:19,240 --> 01:06:21,520
Speaker 1: something that's going to take a long time. And you know,

1241
01:06:21,520 --> 01:06:23,840
Speaker 1: if from the Jets point of view, no one was

1242
01:06:23,880 --> 01:06:25,720
Speaker 1: talking about the Bengals as a super Bowl team this

1243
01:06:25,760 --> 01:06:27,560
Speaker 1: time last year. Right now, the Jets are not going

1244
01:06:27,600 --> 01:06:30,120
Speaker 1: to the super Bowl. But you know, you can take

1245
01:06:30,240 --> 01:06:33,840
Speaker 1: big jumps in this league relatively easily, and it happens

1246
01:06:33,840 --> 01:06:36,200
Speaker 1: every year. And you know, I'm not gonna sit here

1247
01:06:36,240 --> 01:06:38,320
Speaker 1: and predict the Jets or the Dolphins will do that,

1248
01:06:38,600 --> 01:06:40,960
Speaker 1: but both teams certainly have a lot of the ingredients

1249
01:06:40,960 --> 01:06:45,200
Speaker 1: that go into a team that does make that jump. Yeah,

1250
01:06:45,280 --> 01:06:46,920
Speaker 1: let's go to the phones at eight oh three, oh

1251
01:06:47,000 --> 01:06:49,480
Speaker 1: five fifty one eight eight eight five fifty two five

1252
01:06:49,600 --> 01:06:52,640
Speaker 1: fifty and we go to Tom in West Seneca. What

1253
01:06:52,680 --> 01:06:54,520
Speaker 1: do you have for us? Tom? You're on one bills live.

1254
01:06:54,800 --> 01:06:56,640
Speaker 1: Hold on, let me put you pull you up again. Here,

1255
01:06:57,640 --> 01:06:59,200
Speaker 1: here we go, Tom, Now we got you. You're on

1256
01:06:59,200 --> 01:07:02,240
Speaker 1: one Bill's live time. No, I'm from the West side,

1257
01:07:02,320 --> 01:07:05,920
Speaker 1: not on the West side. Okay, Hey, Chris and Thad

1258
01:07:06,640 --> 01:07:09,880
Speaker 1: Tad's here question. I would say every team in the

1259
01:07:09,880 --> 01:07:17,600
Speaker 1: AFC improved, except for New England and Cleveland. Even with

1260
01:07:17,880 --> 01:07:21,400
Speaker 1: even Cleveland because they're in the position we used to

1261
01:07:21,440 --> 01:07:24,760
Speaker 1: be in more we had. We never had a good team,

1262
01:07:24,800 --> 01:07:27,760
Speaker 1: and now they're in all this turmoil. So I feel

1263
01:07:27,800 --> 01:07:31,000
Speaker 1: bad for Cleveland. Well the fans do we feel bad

1264
01:07:31,000 --> 01:07:34,040
Speaker 1: for Yeah? Yeah. Do we think Pittsburgh got better? I'm

1265
01:07:34,040 --> 01:07:35,600
Speaker 1: not sure they did. I like a lot of the

1266
01:07:35,600 --> 01:07:39,240
Speaker 1: guys they drafted late receiver wise, but you lose Ben Roethlisberg.

1267
01:07:39,320 --> 01:07:41,680
Speaker 1: I know he was nothing last year basically, but I

1268
01:07:41,680 --> 01:07:43,160
Speaker 1: don't know how much better that team is this year

1269
01:07:43,200 --> 01:07:46,000
Speaker 1: than they were last year. Yeah, but they did get Trubisky,

1270
01:07:46,040 --> 01:07:49,200
Speaker 1: and I think Trubisky is a better quarterback than he's

1271
01:07:49,240 --> 01:07:51,320
Speaker 1: been given the opportunity. And he got in to sit

1272
01:07:51,400 --> 01:07:55,200
Speaker 1: behind Josh Allen last year. Yeah, so he could be

1273
01:07:55,240 --> 01:07:58,880
Speaker 1: a well improved quarterback this year. He had a winning

1274
01:07:58,920 --> 01:08:05,160
Speaker 1: record when he was for Chicago. Yeah, you're right, he was.

1275
01:08:05,320 --> 01:08:07,240
Speaker 1: I want to say he was sixteen and nine as

1276
01:08:07,280 --> 01:08:12,000
Speaker 1: a starter there. Good call, Tom, thanks for it, um. Yeah.

1277
01:08:12,040 --> 01:08:14,840
Speaker 1: I mean, I hear what he's saying, but I would

1278
01:08:14,880 --> 01:08:17,080
Speaker 1: tend to agree with you on Pittsburgh there, Thad, I

1279
01:08:17,120 --> 01:08:19,720
Speaker 1: don't think they got any better. Their D line got

1280
01:08:19,720 --> 01:08:24,360
Speaker 1: older with Stephan Twitt retiring unexpectedly, So now you're you're

1281
01:08:24,360 --> 01:08:27,280
Speaker 1: starting defensive end there on the front. Three is Cameron

1282
01:08:27,280 --> 01:08:29,760
Speaker 1: Heyward just going to turn thirty four before the season's over.

1283
01:08:30,200 --> 01:08:33,880
Speaker 1: Tyson Alulu at thirty five is your nose tackle and

1284
01:08:34,120 --> 01:08:36,720
Speaker 1: you have a gaping hole where Stefan Twitt, who was

1285
01:08:36,760 --> 01:08:39,519
Speaker 1: only thirty years old, decided to call it a career.

1286
01:08:40,120 --> 01:08:43,360
Speaker 1: And yeah, they drafted to Marvin Leal out of Texas

1287
01:08:43,439 --> 01:08:45,800
Speaker 1: A and M in like the third round. But you

1288
01:08:45,800 --> 01:08:48,400
Speaker 1: want that guy starting and playing meaningful snaps right away.

1289
01:08:48,439 --> 01:08:50,640
Speaker 1: That's really not the way Pittsburgh does it, especially with

1290
01:08:50,640 --> 01:08:53,800
Speaker 1: a third round draft choice. So they got some they

1291
01:08:53,840 --> 01:08:55,880
Speaker 1: got some areas to fix. And oh, by the way,

1292
01:08:55,880 --> 01:08:59,439
Speaker 1: making Fitzpatrick wants a new contract. Hey, look, it's been

1293
01:08:59,439 --> 01:09:01,200
Speaker 1: twenty years they've had to deal with a new quarterback,

1294
01:09:01,280 --> 01:09:04,560
Speaker 1: you know. And I know some franchises, green by Indianapolis,

1295
01:09:04,560 --> 01:09:06,879
Speaker 1: they transition right to a new quarterback and it looks okay.

1296
01:09:07,439 --> 01:09:09,240
Speaker 1: You know, I don't know, Kenny Pickett is not Andrew

1297
01:09:09,320 --> 01:09:12,720
Speaker 1: Lucker or Aaron Rodgers for sure. I think Pittsburgh has

1298
01:09:12,760 --> 01:09:15,920
Speaker 1: confidence in the machine they've built from ownership on down.

1299
01:09:15,920 --> 01:09:17,800
Speaker 1: With Mike Tomlins the head coach, I think they do

1300
01:09:17,840 --> 01:09:20,240
Speaker 1: a really good job developing skill players over and over.

1301
01:09:20,360 --> 01:09:22,720
Speaker 1: So you know, if they draft a receiver in the

1302
01:09:22,760 --> 01:09:24,920
Speaker 1: second round, I look at that player a little better

1303
01:09:24,920 --> 01:09:27,720
Speaker 1: than every other team's second round receiver. But there are big,

1304
01:09:27,760 --> 01:09:29,960
Speaker 1: big questions. And you know, we've spent a lot of

1305
01:09:29,960 --> 01:09:32,559
Speaker 1: time talking about how great the AFC West is. You know,

1306
01:09:32,840 --> 01:09:35,840
Speaker 1: Baltimore and Cincinnati are already brutal teams, you know, and

1307
01:09:35,880 --> 01:09:38,000
Speaker 1: the Ravens had a really good draft. I thought about

1308
01:09:38,000 --> 01:09:41,439
Speaker 1: putting them in the top five most improved teams. They

1309
01:09:41,479 --> 01:09:44,320
Speaker 1: should be healthier this year simply because they can't be

1310
01:09:44,400 --> 01:09:47,560
Speaker 1: less healthy than they were last year. So the Pittsburgh's

1311
01:09:47,560 --> 01:09:49,639
Speaker 1: in a really tough division. And that's not even including

1312
01:09:49,680 --> 01:09:54,679
Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson possibly playing this year. Right, And it's interesting

1313
01:09:54,800 --> 01:09:57,760
Speaker 1: that you're talking about the AFC North here because Steve

1314
01:09:57,840 --> 01:10:01,920
Speaker 1: and I often have conversations, and he is convinced that

1315
01:10:02,080 --> 01:10:06,080
Speaker 1: Cincinnati was a one off last year. While he totally

1316
01:10:06,520 --> 01:10:09,360
Speaker 1: says their receiving corps dynamic, it's probably one of the

1317
01:10:09,360 --> 01:10:13,720
Speaker 1: best and most talented in the entire league. He's not

1318
01:10:13,720 --> 01:10:16,320
Speaker 1: even sure they're gonna make the playoffs next year because

1319
01:10:16,320 --> 01:10:19,240
Speaker 1: he is expecting Baltimore to come back with a vengeance

1320
01:10:19,240 --> 01:10:23,000
Speaker 1: this season after what you know, they were beset with

1321
01:10:23,040 --> 01:10:26,639
Speaker 1: injuries last I mean, that was unprecedented. I actually had

1322
01:10:27,680 --> 01:10:29,840
Speaker 1: one of the Baltimore reporters on last week as we're

1323
01:10:29,920 --> 01:10:31,840
Speaker 1: kind of going through all the Bills opponents as we

1324
01:10:32,200 --> 01:10:35,519
Speaker 1: get closer and closer to training camp, and I asked him,

1325
01:10:35,560 --> 01:10:41,720
Speaker 1: I said, did John Harbaugh actually conduct for lack of

1326
01:10:41,760 --> 01:10:45,920
Speaker 1: a better term, and investigation into why they had so

1327
01:10:46,000 --> 01:10:48,479
Speaker 1: many injuries? I mean, you remember they had two of

1328
01:10:48,520 --> 01:10:50,880
Speaker 1: their starting corners go down twenty minutes apart from one

1329
01:10:50,880 --> 01:10:54,240
Speaker 1: another in the same practice and both were non contact.

1330
01:10:55,280 --> 01:10:58,719
Speaker 1: Their entire running back room was gone like And he said, yeah,

1331
01:10:58,720 --> 01:11:02,479
Speaker 1: he did, like a full scale investigation, not only in

1332
01:11:02,880 --> 01:11:07,960
Speaker 1: how the injuries occurred, but like their practice schedule did

1333
01:11:08,080 --> 01:11:10,280
Speaker 1: like did all the injuries happen on like a Friday

1334
01:11:10,400 --> 01:11:13,360
Speaker 1: or a Thursday in the practice week? Like are there

1335
01:11:13,360 --> 01:11:18,320
Speaker 1: any They were looking for patterns anything. They were slicing

1336
01:11:18,360 --> 01:11:21,400
Speaker 1: and dicing it up eighteen different ways to see if

1337
01:11:21,439 --> 01:11:25,400
Speaker 1: they could find a root cause for some of the injuries,

1338
01:11:25,560 --> 01:11:29,040
Speaker 1: especially some of the catastrophic season ending injuries, of which

1339
01:11:29,560 --> 01:11:33,200
Speaker 1: I think I think the guy told me sixty five

1340
01:11:33,320 --> 01:11:37,679
Speaker 1: or seventy percent of the injuries on the Ravens roster

1341
01:11:38,439 --> 01:11:42,360
Speaker 1: were either eight week or more or season they were

1342
01:11:42,439 --> 01:11:45,679
Speaker 1: at least eight weeks or season ending injuries. Sixty five percent,

1343
01:11:47,080 --> 01:11:49,240
Speaker 1: that's bananas, and that's not sixty five percent of four

1344
01:11:49,320 --> 01:11:53,120
Speaker 1: you know at twenty Yeah, so yeah they were. No,

1345
01:11:53,520 --> 01:11:55,120
Speaker 1: I'm not I don't know if I'm with Stephen calling

1346
01:11:55,200 --> 01:11:57,920
Speaker 1: Cincinnatia one off. I will say that I think the

1347
01:11:57,960 --> 01:11:59,960
Speaker 1: historical trend is the team that loses the Super Bowl

1348
01:12:00,560 --> 01:12:03,280
Speaker 1: misses the playoffs the next year a lot. But since

1349
01:12:03,320 --> 01:12:04,960
Speaker 1: they did a really good job in the offseason two

1350
01:12:04,960 --> 01:12:06,920
Speaker 1: I mean, offensive line was their big issue and they

1351
01:12:06,920 --> 01:12:10,880
Speaker 1: addressed it, you know, multiple times. So somebody's got to

1352
01:12:10,880 --> 01:12:13,200
Speaker 1: miss the playoffs in the AFC. I mean, there's there's

1353
01:12:13,240 --> 01:12:16,040
Speaker 1: way more than seven good teams in the AFC. Someone's

1354
01:12:16,040 --> 01:12:18,479
Speaker 1: not going, you know. And I really I would put

1355
01:12:18,479 --> 01:12:20,880
Speaker 1: money on Miami making the playoffs right now, just because

1356
01:12:20,920 --> 01:12:22,880
Speaker 1: they get the playout of the AFC East and probably

1357
01:12:22,880 --> 01:12:25,320
Speaker 1: have easier games against the Patriots and Jets than what

1358
01:12:25,439 --> 01:12:27,800
Speaker 1: the West and the North teams are playing. So if

1359
01:12:27,840 --> 01:12:31,400
Speaker 1: Miami's going, you know, either two of Denver or the

1360
01:12:31,479 --> 01:12:33,920
Speaker 1: Chargers or the Bengals or the Ravens are not going.

1361
01:12:34,000 --> 01:12:37,240
Speaker 1: And you know, these teams are not non playoff teams.

1362
01:12:37,240 --> 01:12:40,479
Speaker 1: But again, someone's got to miss, right, which you know,

1363
01:12:40,520 --> 01:12:42,840
Speaker 1: and everybody says, with the AFC West as good as

1364
01:12:42,840 --> 01:12:46,320
Speaker 1: they are, does that mean they could get three teams in.

1365
01:12:47,200 --> 01:12:51,040
Speaker 1: I think that's gonna be really tough, but I wouldn't

1366
01:12:51,040 --> 01:12:55,000
Speaker 1: be bowled over if it happened. I think you could

1367
01:12:55,040 --> 01:12:57,200
Speaker 1: make an argument, like for the Chargers and the I

1368
01:12:57,240 --> 01:12:59,080
Speaker 1: mean you make an argument for any team in that division.

1369
01:12:59,120 --> 01:13:01,599
Speaker 1: I think the Raiders are probably the biggest long shot

1370
01:13:01,640 --> 01:13:06,719
Speaker 1: of the bunch, but that's not a bad team, and

1371
01:13:07,120 --> 01:13:11,160
Speaker 1: they eked out the Chargers last year, So I could

1372
01:13:11,160 --> 01:13:13,559
Speaker 1: see a way where three AFC West teams get in.

1373
01:13:13,600 --> 01:13:15,960
Speaker 1: I wouldn't bet on it, but at the same time,

1374
01:13:15,960 --> 01:13:20,280
Speaker 1: it wouldn't stun me if it happened. No, I'm thinking

1375
01:13:20,360 --> 01:13:22,120
Speaker 1: I'm thinking two out of the West, two out of

1376
01:13:22,120 --> 01:13:24,920
Speaker 1: the North, and I think either the either the Colts

1377
01:13:25,040 --> 01:13:29,599
Speaker 1: Titans loser, or whichever AFC East team's young quarterback develops

1378
01:13:29,600 --> 01:13:31,960
Speaker 1: the fastest will be the other wild card. I don't

1379
01:13:31,960 --> 01:13:33,720
Speaker 1: think it's gonna be three from the West because it's

1380
01:13:33,720 --> 01:13:37,200
Speaker 1: just there's too much damage that division's gonna do against

1381
01:13:37,200 --> 01:13:38,720
Speaker 1: each other, you know, and even though they play the

1382
01:13:38,760 --> 01:13:40,920
Speaker 1: South and get some breaks there. You know, I think

1383
01:13:40,920 --> 01:13:42,800
Speaker 1: the third place team in the in the West is

1384
01:13:42,840 --> 01:13:45,200
Speaker 1: going to be a really really good nine and eight

1385
01:13:45,240 --> 01:13:50,040
Speaker 1: team that misses the playoffs. Dang, I mean nine eight

1386
01:13:50,439 --> 01:13:52,880
Speaker 1: after all of that work you did in the offseason

1387
01:13:53,160 --> 01:13:55,320
Speaker 1: to make sure it's gonna happen to somebody. I know,

1388
01:13:55,400 --> 01:13:57,280
Speaker 1: No way, all four of those teams win ten games,

1389
01:13:57,360 --> 01:14:00,000
Speaker 1: you know, and like, I think it'd be pretty reasonab

1390
01:14:00,000 --> 01:14:02,760
Speaker 1: will think two of them thought. Yeah, It's just it's

1391
01:14:02,760 --> 01:14:05,519
Speaker 1: crazy to think, like all the investments these teams made

1392
01:14:05,520 --> 01:14:06,800
Speaker 1: and all they're gonna have to show for it as

1393
01:14:06,800 --> 01:14:10,400
Speaker 1: a nine and eighth season no playoffs again. Yeah, yesh,

1394
01:14:10,439 --> 01:14:12,640
Speaker 1: all right, we gotta take a break here. When we

1395
01:14:12,720 --> 01:14:16,559
Speaker 1: come back, I am going to run by Fad some

1396
01:14:16,680 --> 01:14:23,520
Speaker 1: of ESPN's Mike Clay's twenty twenty two bills individual Player projections,

1397
01:14:24,080 --> 01:14:26,120
Speaker 1: throw some numbers at you as to what he expects

1398
01:14:26,160 --> 01:14:28,479
Speaker 1: from these guys. You tell me what you think, Thad,

1399
01:14:28,840 --> 01:14:30,880
Speaker 1: and then we might have some time for a little

1400
01:14:30,960 --> 01:14:33,120
Speaker 1: NFL true falls all that coming up next here on

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01:14:33,120 --> 01:14:35,320
Speaker 1: One Bill's Live, presented by Collid to Health, It's Buffalo

1402
01:14:35,360 --> 01:14:50,479
Speaker 1: Bill's Radio. All right, So We've talked for a while

1403
01:14:50,520 --> 01:14:53,040
Speaker 1: about most improved teams in the league. Wanted to get

1404
01:14:53,120 --> 01:14:56,559
Speaker 1: some some Bills stuff in here as well. Mike Clay

1405
01:14:56,640 --> 01:15:01,160
Speaker 1: from ESPN, who's done this for a long time, big

1406
01:15:01,360 --> 01:15:05,479
Speaker 1: on number crunching, building projection models for each of the

1407
01:15:05,560 --> 01:15:08,519
Speaker 1: thirty two NFL teams. He has done that, and I

1408
01:15:08,560 --> 01:15:11,599
Speaker 1: am holding in my hand the Bills twenty twenty two

1409
01:15:12,240 --> 01:15:16,320
Speaker 1: projections courtesy of Mike Mike Clay from ESPN dot com.

1410
01:15:16,360 --> 01:15:18,759
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna run some of these individual player numbers

1411
01:15:19,240 --> 01:15:21,200
Speaker 1: at your thad. You tell me what you think if

1412
01:15:21,200 --> 01:15:24,040
Speaker 1: you think he's relatively on the mark with these projections,

1413
01:15:24,040 --> 01:15:26,960
Speaker 1: and a lot of these are historically number based on

1414
01:15:27,040 --> 01:15:30,799
Speaker 1: his part. So we'll start with the obvious one, Josh Allen.

1415
01:15:31,600 --> 01:15:34,920
Speaker 1: He's got him completing sixty four point one percent of

1416
01:15:34,920 --> 01:15:39,360
Speaker 1: his passes, throwing for forty one hundred nineteen yards, thirty

1417
01:15:39,360 --> 01:15:44,960
Speaker 1: three passing touchdowns, thirteen picks, seven rushing touchdowns, six hundred

1418
01:15:45,080 --> 01:15:48,880
Speaker 1: eighty one yards on the ground for Josh Allen. What

1419
01:15:49,240 --> 01:15:52,479
Speaker 1: do we think of those? I'll take him, Oh that

1420
01:15:52,600 --> 01:15:54,760
Speaker 1: the numbers are great. I mean, there's no team in

1421
01:15:54,800 --> 01:15:56,759
Speaker 1: the league that wouldn't sign up for that from their quarterback.

1422
01:15:57,200 --> 01:15:59,599
Speaker 1: I think Allen. I think he's got the completion percentage right,

1423
01:15:59,640 --> 01:16:01,680
Speaker 1: ticking up a little bit from sixty three point three

1424
01:16:01,720 --> 01:16:03,599
Speaker 1: percent last year. I think that there's going to be

1425
01:16:04,560 --> 01:16:07,360
Speaker 1: more of the I want to say dump offs, but

1426
01:16:07,439 --> 01:16:10,240
Speaker 1: the shorter, you know, let guys run. There's a little

1427
01:16:10,280 --> 01:16:13,640
Speaker 1: better group this year of yards of the catch guy receivers,

1428
01:16:13,880 --> 01:16:17,840
Speaker 1: James Cook particularly, So I like that. Down from forty

1429
01:16:17,840 --> 01:16:19,680
Speaker 1: four hundred yards, I think that's a little curious. I

1430
01:16:19,680 --> 01:16:21,840
Speaker 1: think Josh is gonna be upyard wise. I'd go probably

1431
01:16:21,840 --> 01:16:25,360
Speaker 1: about forty six hundred touchdowns. Interceptions I like again, I

1432
01:16:25,360 --> 01:16:30,160
Speaker 1: think safer, higher percentage, completion percentage more likely than last year.

1433
01:16:30,479 --> 01:16:34,320
Speaker 1: Thirty six and fifteen was the TDed interception ratio last year.

1434
01:16:34,560 --> 01:16:37,120
Speaker 1: Rush wise, I think the Bills wat Josh Allen to

1435
01:16:37,200 --> 01:16:40,040
Speaker 1: run less. I know he's an incredible weapon there, but

1436
01:16:40,120 --> 01:16:42,920
Speaker 1: I think the idea of exposing him to all this

1437
01:16:43,040 --> 01:16:45,920
Speaker 1: punishment over and over is something this team does not

1438
01:16:46,040 --> 01:16:48,080
Speaker 1: want to do as much as it has to. Last

1439
01:16:48,160 --> 01:16:50,280
Speaker 1: year ran for about seven hundred and sixty yards. I

1440
01:16:50,320 --> 01:16:52,439
Speaker 1: think that number goes down below six hundred next year.

1441
01:16:52,520 --> 01:16:54,760
Speaker 1: And I think they try and you know, take some

1442
01:16:54,840 --> 01:16:57,599
Speaker 1: of the wear and tear off Josh Allen's body. Yeah,

1443
01:16:57,720 --> 01:16:59,960
Speaker 1: six eighty one seemed like a fat number to me

1444
01:17:00,120 --> 01:17:03,080
Speaker 1: for a rushing total for this coming year. I think

1445
01:17:03,120 --> 01:17:06,960
Speaker 1: he's still gonna be a rushing threat in the red zone.

1446
01:17:07,479 --> 01:17:09,840
Speaker 1: But between the twenties, yeah, I agree with you. I

1447
01:17:09,840 --> 01:17:13,920
Speaker 1: think he's gonna do a whole lot less than that. So, yeah,

1448
01:17:13,680 --> 01:17:16,320
Speaker 1: I would like I would prefer to see the number

1449
01:17:16,680 --> 01:17:20,680
Speaker 1: somewhere between somewhere around five hundred. Quite frankly, Yeah, I

1450
01:17:20,680 --> 01:17:23,439
Speaker 1: would like it down there. Thirty yards a game, that'd

1451
01:17:23,479 --> 01:17:28,759
Speaker 1: be perfect. Yeah. Receivers Stefan Diggs he has with ninety

1452
01:17:28,840 --> 01:17:34,719
Speaker 1: seven receptions eleven hundred ninety eight yards, nine touchdowns, and

1453
01:17:34,760 --> 01:17:37,280
Speaker 1: as you'll see with some of these other projection projections,

1454
01:17:37,280 --> 01:17:39,439
Speaker 1: I give you in a second, thad, I think he's

1455
01:17:39,439 --> 01:17:41,960
Speaker 1: got Diggs just under twelve hundred because he has the

1456
01:17:42,000 --> 01:17:44,439
Speaker 1: wealth being spread out a little bit more. What do

1457
01:17:44,439 --> 01:17:47,640
Speaker 1: you think about that? I'm I'm surprised that that you know,

1458
01:17:47,720 --> 01:17:51,639
Speaker 1: there's one hundred and twenty four catches between Emmanuel Sanders

1459
01:17:51,760 --> 01:17:54,880
Speaker 1: and Colbizy that you think would have to be divvied up. Now,

1460
01:17:54,920 --> 01:17:57,960
Speaker 1: you know from the Josh Allen projections. Mike Clay thinks

1461
01:17:57,960 --> 01:17:59,479
Speaker 1: the pass gonna be a little less. That's fine, so

1462
01:17:59,479 --> 01:18:02,880
Speaker 1: one hundred fifteen whatever. I think Stefen Diggs is going

1463
01:18:02,920 --> 01:18:05,200
Speaker 1: to be the recipient of some of them because he

1464
01:18:05,360 --> 01:18:09,360
Speaker 1: is the most trusted, the most veteran receiver on this team.

1465
01:18:09,400 --> 01:18:11,080
Speaker 1: I know Jameson Crowder has been around the league for

1466
01:18:11,120 --> 01:18:13,599
Speaker 1: a long time, but his first year in Buffalo, so

1467
01:18:13,680 --> 01:18:16,400
Speaker 1: to me, you know, especially first half of next year,

1468
01:18:16,720 --> 01:18:19,360
Speaker 1: when Josh Allen needs to make a throw, I think

1469
01:18:19,360 --> 01:18:21,280
Speaker 1: Stefan Diggs is the most likely got to get it.

1470
01:18:21,360 --> 01:18:23,639
Speaker 1: So for I think diggs number is gonna go up.

1471
01:18:23,800 --> 01:18:26,439
Speaker 1: I'd project him one hundred and ten catches fourteen. I

1472
01:18:26,439 --> 01:18:29,599
Speaker 1: think he's gonna have a monster year because the rest

1473
01:18:29,600 --> 01:18:33,080
Speaker 1: of the receiving corps is generally young and or inexperienced

1474
01:18:33,120 --> 01:18:36,320
Speaker 1: in Buffalo, guys, I think I agree with Mike Clay,

1475
01:18:36,320 --> 01:18:37,720
Speaker 1: and I'm sure you're getting this. With the rest of

1476
01:18:37,760 --> 01:18:41,000
Speaker 1: the numbers, I think that the wealth beyond Diggs will

1477
01:18:41,040 --> 01:18:43,559
Speaker 1: be more spread than it's been Because Colbez has had big,

1478
01:18:43,600 --> 01:18:45,880
Speaker 1: big numbers as the number two receiver the last couple

1479
01:18:45,880 --> 01:18:48,080
Speaker 1: of years. I don't think we'll see quite that kind

1480
01:18:48,120 --> 01:18:50,639
Speaker 1: of production out of Gabriel Davis, whoever the number two

1481
01:18:50,680 --> 01:18:54,519
Speaker 1: is this year. Yeah, I mean he's got Davis sixty

1482
01:18:54,640 --> 01:18:58,880
Speaker 1: three for nine eighteen and nine touchdowns. I think he's

1483
01:18:59,040 --> 01:19:01,160
Speaker 1: I think he's on the money with the nine touchdowns

1484
01:19:01,200 --> 01:19:05,200
Speaker 1: because Gabriel Davis had six last years, seven the year before,

1485
01:19:05,320 --> 01:19:07,439
Speaker 1: and he only had thirty five receptions in each of

1486
01:19:07,439 --> 01:19:10,280
Speaker 1: those years. You double his receptions. I think he gets

1487
01:19:10,320 --> 01:19:14,240
Speaker 1: pretty close to ten touchdowns. I would disagree there. I

1488
01:19:14,280 --> 01:19:17,479
Speaker 1: think the reason Gabriel Davis's touchdown number is up, he,

1489
01:19:17,680 --> 01:19:20,320
Speaker 1: for whatever reason, is the guy that's always on the

1490
01:19:20,360 --> 01:19:22,600
Speaker 1: back end of the trick play. There's at least a

1491
01:19:22,600 --> 01:19:25,360
Speaker 1: half dozen over the last two years, you know, either

1492
01:19:25,880 --> 01:19:28,880
Speaker 1: highly deceptive plays or flat out you know Cole Beasley

1493
01:19:28,960 --> 01:19:31,759
Speaker 1: making the throw plays where Gabriel Davis is just catching

1494
01:19:31,800 --> 01:19:33,720
Speaker 1: a wide open ball. And I think the reason for

1495
01:19:33,760 --> 01:19:37,439
Speaker 1: that is he is the best blocking receiver. Is the

1496
01:19:37,439 --> 01:19:39,320
Speaker 1: guy that Bill suspect to be the most likely person

1497
01:19:39,360 --> 01:19:42,760
Speaker 1: to be ignored you in a passing situation. That won't

1498
01:19:42,800 --> 01:19:44,719
Speaker 1: be the case next year. He's the number two receiver.

1499
01:19:45,000 --> 01:19:46,439
Speaker 1: This is a guy that's not going to be ignored.

1500
01:19:46,680 --> 01:19:49,759
Speaker 1: So if I had to beat I think he's under

1501
01:19:49,960 --> 01:19:52,360
Speaker 1: six touchdowns that he had last year. Why he even

1502
01:19:52,360 --> 01:19:54,880
Speaker 1: gets back to that number because of the fact he's

1503
01:19:54,880 --> 01:19:57,280
Speaker 1: not going to be that guy anymore now. Doesn't say

1504
01:19:57,280 --> 01:19:59,719
Speaker 1: anything bad about I don't think touchdown is an indication

1505
01:19:59,760 --> 01:20:01,920
Speaker 1: of how good or batter receiver you are. I just

1506
01:20:01,960 --> 01:20:05,280
Speaker 1: think Davis not being the trick play catch guy, you know,

1507
01:20:05,360 --> 01:20:07,599
Speaker 1: making him have to earn the touchdowns a normal way,

1508
01:20:07,880 --> 01:20:11,880
Speaker 1: drops that number next year. Okay, so we will respectively

1509
01:20:12,200 --> 01:20:14,720
Speaker 1: will respectfully disagree on that. I think Davis is the

1510
01:20:15,320 --> 01:20:17,320
Speaker 1: I know, I'm on an island there, Chris, That's fine. Yeah,

1511
01:20:17,360 --> 01:20:20,000
Speaker 1: I think Davis is the real deal. I think he'll

1512
01:20:20,000 --> 01:20:23,960
Speaker 1: still win on routes even with more attention. I think

1513
01:20:23,960 --> 01:20:26,240
Speaker 1: he can get to nine touchdowns, especially with the extra

1514
01:20:26,280 --> 01:20:29,160
Speaker 1: time on the field. Jamison Crowder, here's the one that

1515
01:20:29,200 --> 01:20:32,640
Speaker 1: I was most interested in seeing, and he's got him

1516
01:20:32,680 --> 01:20:35,600
Speaker 1: at fifty nine receptions for six hundred eleven yards and

1517
01:20:35,720 --> 01:20:41,719
Speaker 1: five tds. Sounds about right. I'm very curious to see

1518
01:20:42,080 --> 01:20:45,080
Speaker 1: what this Bill's offense is going to look like. The

1519
01:20:45,120 --> 01:20:47,880
Speaker 1: last two years, it's been the more traditional. We're gonna

1520
01:20:47,880 --> 01:20:50,479
Speaker 1: have two outside receivers in a slock eye, and we're

1521
01:20:50,479 --> 01:20:54,400
Speaker 1: just gonna, you know, pass you indo oblivion. It feels

1522
01:20:54,439 --> 01:20:57,320
Speaker 1: like this year with the Bills drafting or running back

1523
01:20:57,320 --> 01:21:00,000
Speaker 1: who can catch in James Cook drafting a receiver who

1524
01:21:00,080 --> 01:21:03,599
Speaker 1: can run and Klio secure, going with a tight end

1525
01:21:03,920 --> 01:21:06,200
Speaker 1: that can you know and Oj Howard as your number

1526
01:21:06,200 --> 01:21:08,639
Speaker 1: two tight end, a guy who can you know, present

1527
01:21:08,680 --> 01:21:10,920
Speaker 1: a run look but still be a threat. In the past,

1528
01:21:11,320 --> 01:21:14,000
Speaker 1: it doesn't feel like the Bills gonna go to a

1529
01:21:14,080 --> 01:21:17,439
Speaker 1: traditional yes, we're gonna pass and you can't beat it here.

1530
01:21:17,439 --> 01:21:19,400
Speaker 1: It comes kind of look they're gonna try and be

1531
01:21:19,640 --> 01:21:23,200
Speaker 1: multiple present different looks. Jameson Crowder is not a guy

1532
01:21:23,240 --> 01:21:26,600
Speaker 1: that fits in that part of the offense. He's your absolutely,

1533
01:21:26,560 --> 01:21:30,240
Speaker 1: one hundred percent typical slot receiver, really good at it.

1534
01:21:30,439 --> 01:21:31,880
Speaker 1: But I don't know how much of the Bills come

1535
01:21:31,880 --> 01:21:34,120
Speaker 1: out on that offensive look this year where they want

1536
01:21:34,160 --> 01:21:37,280
Speaker 1: to use a receiver who's yeah when he's on the field,

1537
01:21:37,280 --> 01:21:40,160
Speaker 1: they're gonna throw a type guy. So I really think

1538
01:21:40,160 --> 01:21:42,800
Speaker 1: that Jameson Crowder's numbers are gonna be lower than expected.

1539
01:21:43,160 --> 01:21:46,439
Speaker 1: I like Cook's receiving numbers to be higher. I like

1540
01:21:46,520 --> 01:21:48,799
Speaker 1: Oj Howard maybe to be a little higher than expected.

1541
01:21:48,960 --> 01:21:50,800
Speaker 1: And like I said, I think the wealth is going

1542
01:21:50,880 --> 01:21:53,799
Speaker 1: to be a lot more spread out among your non

1543
01:21:53,880 --> 01:21:57,479
Speaker 1: typical receiving options than it has been in Buffalo last

1544
01:21:57,520 --> 01:22:00,400
Speaker 1: couple of years. So are you including mc enzy in

1545
01:22:00,439 --> 01:22:02,920
Speaker 1: that equation because he's got him for just twenty five

1546
01:22:03,000 --> 01:22:04,840
Speaker 1: catches for two hundred and forty two yards and a

1547
01:22:04,840 --> 01:22:08,080
Speaker 1: pair of touchdowns. I think McKenzie's a factor. I think

1548
01:22:08,080 --> 01:22:10,799
Speaker 1: those numbers are probably pretty accurate. I don't think McKenzie's

1549
01:22:10,800 --> 01:22:13,120
Speaker 1: a guy had taken away touches from Crowder. I think

1550
01:22:13,439 --> 01:22:15,880
Speaker 1: having Howard on the field, having Cook on the field,

1551
01:22:16,120 --> 01:22:19,040
Speaker 1: having Shakier on the field, I think those guys take

1552
01:22:19,080 --> 01:22:22,320
Speaker 1: snaps away from Crowder, and that to me would depress

1553
01:22:22,360 --> 01:22:23,920
Speaker 1: his outlook. From my point of you, I've been telling

1554
01:22:23,960 --> 01:22:26,120
Speaker 1: people who've been asking me fantasy wise what to do

1555
01:22:26,120 --> 01:22:28,720
Speaker 1: with jameson Crowder. I would avoid him because people are

1556
01:22:28,760 --> 01:22:30,840
Speaker 1: gonna look at him as the slot receiver in this

1557
01:22:30,920 --> 01:22:34,120
Speaker 1: great offense, as a dependable third fantasy guy, and I

1558
01:22:34,160 --> 01:22:36,280
Speaker 1: don't think he's gonna be that. I could easily be wrong,

1559
01:22:36,520 --> 01:22:39,080
Speaker 1: but that's my take on it so far. Yeah, And

1560
01:22:39,160 --> 01:22:42,080
Speaker 1: because of that, you're gonna be disappointed in OJ Howard's projections.

1561
01:22:42,120 --> 01:22:44,840
Speaker 1: Here by Mike Lain's got him, give you what he got.

1562
01:22:44,880 --> 01:22:47,240
Speaker 1: He's got him for twelve receptions for one hundred and

1563
01:22:47,320 --> 01:22:50,400
Speaker 1: forty yards and a touchdown. He's got Knoxes. He's got

1564
01:22:50,439 --> 01:22:53,519
Speaker 1: Knoxes numbers down too from what they were last year.

1565
01:22:53,560 --> 01:22:56,080
Speaker 1: He's got him at forty six for five fifty seven

1566
01:22:56,120 --> 01:22:59,080
Speaker 1: and six touchdowns. Last year in Knox was forty nine,

1567
01:22:59,120 --> 01:23:02,800
Speaker 1: five eighty seven and nine touchdowns. How about this, I say,

1568
01:23:02,800 --> 01:23:07,800
Speaker 1: OJ Howard has twelve catches before October. Okay, Okay, I

1569
01:23:07,840 --> 01:23:10,320
Speaker 1: think now I might be a little I'll say, let

1570
01:23:10,320 --> 01:23:12,599
Speaker 1: me let me, let me amend that he'll have twelve

1571
01:23:12,600 --> 01:23:15,439
Speaker 1: catches by Halloween. I think Howard's going to be a

1572
01:23:15,560 --> 01:23:18,280
Speaker 1: very viable part of this offense. A guy that will

1573
01:23:18,320 --> 01:23:21,000
Speaker 1: be used will be They're gonna try and use them

1574
01:23:21,000 --> 01:23:22,560
Speaker 1: because there's no reason not to have him on the

1575
01:23:22,560 --> 01:23:23,880
Speaker 1: field if you're not gonna use them as part of

1576
01:23:23,880 --> 01:23:26,600
Speaker 1: the passing game. I think Knoxes numbers go up a

1577
01:23:26,720 --> 01:23:29,720
Speaker 1: tick from forty nine and about six hundred yards last year.

1578
01:23:29,760 --> 01:23:32,479
Speaker 1: I got him about fifty five and maybe seven hundred.

1579
01:23:32,520 --> 01:23:34,200
Speaker 1: I think next year. I think tight ends in the

1580
01:23:34,200 --> 01:23:36,640
Speaker 1: passing game is something this build team really wants to

1581
01:23:36,640 --> 01:23:40,600
Speaker 1: do right, and I don't know if it's going to

1582
01:23:40,800 --> 01:23:43,479
Speaker 1: feature both of those guys every single week. I think

1583
01:23:43,520 --> 01:23:47,720
Speaker 1: it's going to be largely opponent based, But in the

1584
01:23:47,760 --> 01:23:51,240
Speaker 1: red zone, I think you'd almost be foolish to not

1585
01:23:51,320 --> 01:23:53,160
Speaker 1: have both of those guys on the field. They're your

1586
01:23:53,160 --> 01:23:56,000
Speaker 1: two biggest targets in the whole arsenal at six to

1587
01:23:56,080 --> 01:23:58,519
Speaker 1: five plus. I mean, they put their arms over their

1588
01:23:58,520 --> 01:24:00,639
Speaker 1: head and you know they're nine and a half feet tall.

1589
01:24:00,680 --> 01:24:02,920
Speaker 1: Just throw it up to them and they're gonna outjump

1590
01:24:02,960 --> 01:24:05,960
Speaker 1: whoever they have at dB even a six three corner

1591
01:24:06,000 --> 01:24:08,960
Speaker 1: like Sauce Gardner. They're taller than that guy. So have

1592
01:24:09,160 --> 01:24:11,599
Speaker 1: at it, Um, I'd be I could see their touchdown

1593
01:24:11,600 --> 01:24:15,280
Speaker 1: production being very high. I'm still not sold on the

1594
01:24:15,320 --> 01:24:17,599
Speaker 1: catches in the yardage though. That's that's the only place

1595
01:24:17,600 --> 01:24:20,240
Speaker 1: where I'm having trouble with that um flipping it down

1596
01:24:20,240 --> 01:24:22,320
Speaker 1: on knock I'm down on Knox touchdowns. By the way,

1597
01:24:22,360 --> 01:24:24,479
Speaker 1: I think the term touchdown and regression is something you're

1598
01:24:24,479 --> 01:24:27,959
Speaker 1: gonna hear you. Yeah, it's hard to duplicate nine touchdowns

1599
01:24:27,960 --> 01:24:31,160
Speaker 1: in the tight end position unless you're Travis kelcey Um. Okay,

1600
01:24:31,240 --> 01:24:34,200
Speaker 1: so flipping it over to defense. Let's just quickly run

1601
01:24:34,200 --> 01:24:36,879
Speaker 1: through maybe some of the guys people are most interested

1602
01:24:36,880 --> 01:24:40,240
Speaker 1: in Von Miller. They have at ten and a half sacks,

1603
01:24:40,680 --> 01:24:43,559
Speaker 1: Ed Oliver a little over four and a half sacks,

1604
01:24:44,000 --> 01:24:49,160
Speaker 1: Greg Russo four point eight sacks. Those numbers sound good.

1605
01:24:49,200 --> 01:24:51,519
Speaker 1: I think von Miller would be a little above. I

1606
01:24:51,560 --> 01:24:53,839
Speaker 1: think he's gonna get a lot of opportunity to obviously,

1607
01:24:53,920 --> 01:24:56,360
Speaker 1: you know, play and have an impact. Um, you know,

1608
01:24:56,520 --> 01:24:59,120
Speaker 1: I think Greg Russo to be a real factor this

1609
01:24:59,200 --> 01:25:01,040
Speaker 1: year is gonna have to, you know, show something early,

1610
01:25:01,120 --> 01:25:02,680
Speaker 1: and I don't know how much. I don't want to

1611
01:25:02,720 --> 01:25:05,280
Speaker 1: say he's gonna have a short leash, but you know,

1612
01:25:05,400 --> 01:25:07,320
Speaker 1: I think von Miller's gonna be the guy they rely on,

1613
01:25:07,360 --> 01:25:09,960
Speaker 1: and I know he's gonna get all the attention, but um,

1614
01:25:10,040 --> 01:25:12,320
Speaker 1: he's just that good. So I would say over ten

1615
01:25:12,320 --> 01:25:15,200
Speaker 1: and a half sacks for von Miller. I think over

1616
01:25:15,240 --> 01:25:17,160
Speaker 1: fed Oliver too, I think he's going to continue to

1617
01:25:17,160 --> 01:25:18,960
Speaker 1: get better, not a lot over, but a little over.

1618
01:25:19,240 --> 01:25:21,240
Speaker 1: And I'd probably go under for Greg Rousseau. I'm not

1619
01:25:21,240 --> 01:25:24,599
Speaker 1: I'm not a huge Rousseau fan right now. I'm hoping,

1620
01:25:24,720 --> 01:25:26,320
Speaker 1: you know, from the bills point of view that Miller

1621
01:25:26,439 --> 01:25:29,519
Speaker 1: can you know, impart some of the knowledge that he's

1622
01:25:29,560 --> 01:25:31,599
Speaker 1: gained over the years, not only just on himself, but

1623
01:25:31,760 --> 01:25:33,479
Speaker 1: you know it's part of that pass Rush summit that

1624
01:25:33,479 --> 01:25:36,160
Speaker 1: he's been doing the last few years, which is fantastic. Yep.

1625
01:25:37,000 --> 01:25:39,600
Speaker 1: But I would go under Rousseau four point eight. And

1626
01:25:39,640 --> 01:25:43,719
Speaker 1: then last projected wins, He's got the Bills at eleven

1627
01:25:43,800 --> 01:25:47,800
Speaker 1: point nine, which is the highest win total of any

1628
01:25:47,840 --> 01:25:51,880
Speaker 1: team that he has in the NFL eleven point nine,

1629
01:25:51,960 --> 01:25:55,720
Speaker 1: So obviously that means he feels twelve wins is good

1630
01:25:55,800 --> 01:25:57,800
Speaker 1: enough for the number one seed in the AFC. What

1631
01:25:57,920 --> 01:26:00,599
Speaker 1: do you think I think he'll take more than that.

1632
01:26:01,200 --> 01:26:03,679
Speaker 1: I would be I know we've talked about teams beating

1633
01:26:03,720 --> 01:26:06,120
Speaker 1: each other up, how hard these other divisions are. I

1634
01:26:06,120 --> 01:26:09,000
Speaker 1: would be surprised if no one in the AFC gets

1635
01:26:09,000 --> 01:26:11,280
Speaker 1: the thirteen wins. So I would think that's the number

1636
01:26:11,560 --> 01:26:14,559
Speaker 1: you're shooting for for the number one seed. That's said,

1637
01:26:14,800 --> 01:26:18,280
Speaker 1: and last year at this time, the Bills over under

1638
01:26:18,560 --> 01:26:21,599
Speaker 1: in Vegas was eleven, and the Bills last year at

1639
01:26:21,600 --> 01:26:24,439
Speaker 1: this time had the most money on the over of

1640
01:26:24,560 --> 01:26:27,799
Speaker 1: any team in the NFL. And last year over eleven

1641
01:26:27,880 --> 01:26:31,240
Speaker 1: looked like a lock and then it pushed. So you know,

1642
01:26:31,439 --> 01:26:33,760
Speaker 1: I think the idea that the Bills are a guaranteed

1643
01:26:33,840 --> 01:26:37,479
Speaker 1: twelve to thirteen win team probably not accurate. A lot

1644
01:26:37,479 --> 01:26:39,439
Speaker 1: of things can happen in the NFL, but I would

1645
01:26:39,439 --> 01:26:41,760
Speaker 1: bet the over, and I would say thirteen and four

1646
01:26:41,920 --> 01:26:43,519
Speaker 1: is your number one seed record out of the AC

1647
01:26:43,640 --> 01:26:47,920
Speaker 1: this year. Quickly, the games with the least odds of

1648
01:26:47,960 --> 01:26:51,759
Speaker 1: the Bills winning win probability the lowest. Week one against

1649
01:26:51,800 --> 01:26:55,160
Speaker 1: the Rams fifty one percent chance to win, Week six

1650
01:26:55,280 --> 01:26:58,599
Speaker 1: against the Chiefs, fifty one percent chance to win. Week

1651
01:26:58,760 --> 01:27:04,120
Speaker 1: seventeen at Cincinnati forty eight percent chance to win the

1652
01:27:04,160 --> 01:27:09,519
Speaker 1: football game. Everything after that is fifty nine percent or better.

1653
01:27:09,560 --> 01:27:11,519
Speaker 1: We have to take a break here. When we come back,

1654
01:27:11,600 --> 01:27:13,519
Speaker 1: we'll get a couple more stories from Thad on the

1655
01:27:13,520 --> 01:27:16,200
Speaker 1: golf outing yesterday. That's next here on one Bill's Live.

1656
01:27:16,240 --> 01:27:29,640
Speaker 1: Stay tuned all right, That time is short, so hit

1657
01:27:29,720 --> 01:27:33,439
Speaker 1: us with your best golf stories from the Bill's media

1658
01:27:33,520 --> 01:27:36,680
Speaker 1: golf event yesterday. I'll give you the one big one.

1659
01:27:36,720 --> 01:27:39,040
Speaker 1: So A J. Feldman who works with me got to

1660
01:27:39,040 --> 01:27:40,920
Speaker 1: play in the tournament for the first time and he

1661
01:27:41,000 --> 01:27:42,680
Speaker 1: was hired during COVID, so who had not played in

1662
01:27:42,680 --> 01:27:45,559
Speaker 1: a previous tournament, so I purposely did not tell Bill's

1663
01:27:45,600 --> 01:27:49,200
Speaker 1: pr that he's a great golfer. Six handicap bombs it

1664
01:27:49,240 --> 01:27:51,479
Speaker 1: off the team, hoping that he ended up in my group.

1665
01:27:51,800 --> 01:27:53,960
Speaker 1: No such luck. He played with Nate Gary from wr

1666
01:27:54,080 --> 01:27:57,320
Speaker 1: is very good and Matt Barkley, and I figured backup quarterback,

1667
01:27:57,360 --> 01:27:59,519
Speaker 1: probably good player. Right. Sure enough, I walk over to

1668
01:27:59,520 --> 01:28:02,400
Speaker 1: the range. Matt Barkley's warming up first drive is like

1669
01:28:02,479 --> 01:28:04,880
Speaker 1: into the stratosphere, and I'm thinking, okay, yeah, no one

1670
01:28:04,920 --> 01:28:07,080
Speaker 1: else is winning today. And sure enough, on like the

1671
01:28:07,080 --> 01:28:08,680
Speaker 1: fifth hole, we were in the group in front of

1672
01:28:08,880 --> 01:28:11,880
Speaker 1: the AJ Felt in Matt Barkley Group three forty part four,

1673
01:28:11,880 --> 01:28:14,080
Speaker 1: we're getting off the green kind of you know, getting

1674
01:28:14,080 --> 01:28:15,719
Speaker 1: to the cart. All of a sudden we hear something.

1675
01:28:16,160 --> 01:28:18,880
Speaker 1: AJ had dumped his drive and the greenside bunker, and

1676
01:28:18,920 --> 01:28:21,240
Speaker 1: then Barkley had his about ten yards pass that like

1677
01:28:21,320 --> 01:28:24,240
Speaker 1: pin high the tea shot at a part four. So

1678
01:28:24,320 --> 01:28:26,559
Speaker 1: they won the tournament. And I just want to point

1679
01:28:26,560 --> 01:28:28,680
Speaker 1: out everybody, we had a lot of players there. They

1680
01:28:28,680 --> 01:28:32,160
Speaker 1: were intensely competitive. So after the round Bill's pr a

1681
01:28:32,200 --> 01:28:33,760
Speaker 1: lot of people are coming to me like, why didn't

1682
01:28:33,760 --> 01:28:35,760
Speaker 1: you tell us how good, AJ was what the heck man?

1683
01:28:36,400 --> 01:28:39,280
Speaker 1: AJ said. He goes to the bathroom and passes Jordan Phillips,

1684
01:28:39,280 --> 01:28:41,760
Speaker 1: who's a really good golfer, finished second eight under to

1685
01:28:41,800 --> 01:28:44,800
Speaker 1: AJ's eleven under. Jordan Phillips goes to AJ. He's like, hey,

1686
01:28:45,080 --> 01:28:48,800
Speaker 1: are you Aj. AJ says yeah, and Phillips goes bleep

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Speaker 1: you and then just walks to the best. So I

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Speaker 1: mean they took it absolutely serious that it was a

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Speaker 1: good I can't imagine Jordan Phillips off the tea. It's

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Speaker 1: a lot of motion putting into a golf ball. He's

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Speaker 1: really good from what understand. I didn't see him swing much,

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Speaker 1: but a really good player. All right, thanks for help

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Speaker 1: with the show today, Fad. We'll catch up with you soon.

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Speaker 1: Enjoy your summer. We'll see you tomorrow. Here one