WEBVTT - Valspar Collegiate Invitational

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<v Speaker 1>It's the Son of a Butcher podcast. We come to

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<v Speaker 1>you every Wednesday. This week's guest Ryan Chrysler. We've had

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<v Speaker 1>him on the pod before. Works with me here at

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<v Speaker 1>the Floridian. One of the best instructors in the country.

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<v Speaker 1>But Ryan, it's always a fun week for us here

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<v Speaker 1>at Floridian. We had the Valsbar Collegiate Invitational this week.

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<v Speaker 1>Some of the best college teams in the country. Some

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<v Speaker 1>of the best college players in the country. Would we

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<v Speaker 1>have eleven of the top twenty at PGA Tour you

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<v Speaker 1>some of the packed stacked powerhouses Texas, Oklahoma, Alabama. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>there are some really good North Carolina. They're one of

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<v Speaker 1>the best teams in the country. Florida State one Luke

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<v Speaker 1>Clanton who plays at Florida State. He won. But it's

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<v Speaker 1>really cool for us because we've watched this now. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>how many years has this been going rc I.

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<v Speaker 2>Think at least ten years, ten years.

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<v Speaker 1>And one of the cool things that that we started here.

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<v Speaker 1>The winner of this collegiate tournament gets an invite into

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<v Speaker 1>the twenty twenty five vals Bar on the PGA Tour.

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<v Speaker 1>So everyone that's won this tournament is going on to

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<v Speaker 1>play in a PGA Tour event. I think Ryan, that's

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<v Speaker 1>one of the things that didn't you know, when I

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<v Speaker 1>talk to my dad, when I talk to some of

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<v Speaker 1>the old guard, that didn't happen as much. Amateurs, college

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<v Speaker 1>players were not getting the access to professional tournaments the

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<v Speaker 1>way they are now.

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<v Speaker 2>Correct. Yeah, Back in my day, you get your car

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<v Speaker 2>through Q school and it's kind of gotten contracted a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit over the years. But now with PGA two

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<v Speaker 2>or you, all the players that are here this week,

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<v Speaker 2>they have a chance to get a car, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>and to get an event, an extra ticket, to punch

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<v Speaker 2>an event to a tour player, for a turn for turn,

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<v Speaker 2>a tour tournament that can change your life in one week.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean, it is an amazing opportunity. You're a

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<v Speaker 1>college golfer and you win a tournament in March of

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty four, you know that you're going to play

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<v Speaker 1>on the PGA Tour, in APGA Tour event in twenty

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<v Speaker 1>twenty five. We've had some pretty cool winners here. I

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<v Speaker 1>remember coming here and that Oklahoma State that had Victor

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<v Speaker 1>Hovlin on it VIX one here. He's now a member here.

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<v Speaker 1>But Matt Wolf, Chris Vin Tura, they were packed. I

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<v Speaker 1>remember watching Cameron Champ play here for the first time.

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<v Speaker 1>We had Gordon Sargent play here this week, who's one

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<v Speaker 1>of the longest players.

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<v Speaker 2>Ab won last year.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, lud big Ever won this tournament last year. So

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<v Speaker 1>we have got to see kind of a we've had

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<v Speaker 1>a ringside seat to some of the next generation of

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<v Speaker 1>college golfers. But it's always and that next generation of

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<v Speaker 1>college golfers is going to be the next generation of

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<v Speaker 1>professional golfers on the PGA Tour Europe Live wherever, Asia, wherever.

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<v Speaker 1>But it has been really cool to watch something. I

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<v Speaker 1>remember one year Oklahoma State was playing in our tournament.

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<v Speaker 1>Wyndham Clark, I mean Oklahoma State is their cruising to

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<v Speaker 1>winning the team competition. Would win to make on the

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<v Speaker 1>last hole a man or something. He made double digits

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<v Speaker 1>on the last hole. Ninko was double digits the eighteenth

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<v Speaker 1>hole here at our club, the Floridian, very difficult finishing hole,

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<v Speaker 1>water all the way from the te box, all the

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<v Speaker 1>way down the left hand side. It's just a very

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<v Speaker 1>very difficult driving hole. So we've seen over the last

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<v Speaker 1>ten years or see some of the best amateurs, some

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<v Speaker 1>of the best college players in the world who have

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<v Speaker 1>gone on to do great things. You know, Victor Hovlin,

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<v Speaker 1>Camera Champ, Matt Wolf, you know Ludwig. I mean, these

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<v Speaker 1>guys are all studs playing on the big stage now,

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<v Speaker 1>but when we're watching them play on this stage, they're

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<v Speaker 1>still making a lot of the mistakes that we talked about.

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<v Speaker 1>So I wanted to go through kind of you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the guy that won Luke Clanton, So eighteen birdies for

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<v Speaker 1>three rounds, one eagle, yep, six bogies and he wins

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<v Speaker 1>by five shots, win's by five shots. So we kind

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<v Speaker 1>of went through and did a deep dive on his stats.

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<v Speaker 1>So for three rounds, one under or on the par threes, right,

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<v Speaker 1>four under for the week on the par fours, nine

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<v Speaker 1>under for the week on the par fives, textbook championship

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<v Speaker 1>numbers I think right, So didn't really make six bogies

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<v Speaker 1>for the week, nothing special, didn't make any big numbers

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<v Speaker 1>to make no triples, right. So Gordon Sergeant, who I

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<v Speaker 1>think most people listening to this will know who he is.

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<v Speaker 1>He played in the Masters last year. I mean, the

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<v Speaker 1>guy is a.

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<v Speaker 2>NCAA champion in twenty twenty two.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he is a stud, right, He's kind of like

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<v Speaker 1>the prototype of what everyone thinks a college golfer will

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<v Speaker 1>look like. You know, there were a lot of people

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<v Speaker 1>when he played at Augusta last year or see that

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<v Speaker 1>early on in the week were saying, due to his length,

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<v Speaker 1>could he be someone that contended. He missed the cup

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<v Speaker 1>by miles, not a diss against him, But my point

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<v Speaker 1>behind this is, so when we go and look at

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<v Speaker 1>Gordon Sergeant, who is everyone thinks he can't mess right.

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<v Speaker 1>Everyone thinks that he will be playing and winning on

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<v Speaker 1>the PGA Tour sometime in the next two years. Right.

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<v Speaker 1>So for the three rounds, twelve birdies, nine bogies, three

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<v Speaker 1>doubles and then on the eighteenth hole here par four

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<v Speaker 1>makes an eight, so a quad right, so easily one

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<v Speaker 1>of the longest hitters currently playing competitive professional golf.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, I mean one ninety plus boss easy.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean he cruises. You can go on, you can

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<v Speaker 1>go on Instagram, you can go on YouTube, you can

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<v Speaker 1>go on, and there are a million golf swing nerds

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<v Speaker 1>talking about his golf. The kid is a stud. But

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<v Speaker 1>he still makes three doubles and an eight on a

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<v Speaker 1>par four, nine bogies for the week, so the leader, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>he only makes six more birdies. You would think that

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<v Speaker 1>that would be the thing that would be the calling card.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not. It's the it's the quads, it's the doubles.

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<v Speaker 1>And so when we looked at Gordon Sergeant for the week,

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<v Speaker 1>one over for the far three. So he plays the

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<v Speaker 1>par threes in one over, which is pretty much about average.

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<v Speaker 1>And we've talked about this on the pod before, Ryan,

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<v Speaker 1>but I've told this story Jim Herman, who was a

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<v Speaker 1>member here at Floridian. Jim Herman, by his own admission,

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<v Speaker 1>would be in that journeyman kind of mule. He's just

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<v Speaker 1>he is a rank and filed PJ Tour player won

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<v Speaker 1>three or four times one in Houston on a very long,

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<v Speaker 1>big golf course, something that you wouldn't think someone like

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<v Speaker 1>Jim Herman would went on. But there was a kid

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<v Speaker 1>that I was teaching who was getting ready to go

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<v Speaker 1>play college golf Division I college golf at the University

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<v Speaker 1>of Michigan, and I said, hey, give his kid some advice,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'll never forget that. Jim Herman said, hey, play

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<v Speaker 1>the par threes and one over for the week. You'll

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<v Speaker 1>probably have a chance to win. So the guy that

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<v Speaker 1>finished second this week plays the par threes in one over. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>the guy who wins the tournament two shots the leader

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<v Speaker 1>two shots back of the leader on par three par threes. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>So you finish under par on the par threes elite

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<v Speaker 1>for the week, you are probably going to have a

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<v Speaker 1>chance to win the golf tournament just because the par

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<v Speaker 1>threes are so difficult.

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<v Speaker 2>So especially here because we have five part three.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, so we have five par threes. So if you

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<v Speaker 1>can take advantage of that. But if you're over, if

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<v Speaker 1>you're even, if you play the par threes, and I'll

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<v Speaker 1>keep saying this, and I'm sure there's people listening or

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<v Speaker 1>say that. I'll say, heard this before, play the par

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<v Speaker 1>threes and even for the week, the guy wins this

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<v Speaker 1>golf tournament cleans up on the par fives, under par

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<v Speaker 1>on the par threes, four under on the par fives,

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<v Speaker 1>are on the par fours for the week.

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<v Speaker 2>Let the feel by two shots on that stet.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so he's minus four for three rounds on the

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<v Speaker 1>par fours and he wins that stat by almost by

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<v Speaker 1>three shots. So it just goes to show you, and

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<v Speaker 1>I think a lot of players are going to be

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<v Speaker 1>under par this week on the par five.

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<v Speaker 2>Almost every I mean, the list is super long here.

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<v Speaker 1>How many players playing there's.

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<v Speaker 2>Probably I'm doing a quick math here. Let's say there's

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<v Speaker 2>eighty players here, maybe a little bit more. Yeah, on

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<v Speaker 2>par five scoring even pars basically bottom half of the

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<v Speaker 2>field plus.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So everybody is going to expect and is taking

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<v Speaker 1>advantage of the part fast. If you're not taking advantage

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<v Speaker 1>of the par fives, regardless of what your handicap is, right,

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<v Speaker 1>So if you aren't making so if you're in that,

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<v Speaker 1>I think the.

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<v Speaker 2>Way you take advantage of the parth right par fives

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<v Speaker 2>is you've still make any mistakes in the par fo yes,

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<v Speaker 2>just don't make bogies on par five if it's too long.

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<v Speaker 2>Do we really need to hit driver if we're automatically

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<v Speaker 2>going to lay up and if driver's networking, whatever, if

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<v Speaker 2>the fairways wider at whatever, your three wood distances to

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<v Speaker 2>thirty two forty I about three with off the tea

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<v Speaker 2>five iron, nine irons, something along those instead of maybe

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<v Speaker 2>a driver mistake, three wood mistake dropping from sixty short

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<v Speaker 2>of the water whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>And we've got a stretch here at the Floridian. If

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<v Speaker 1>for those of you that haven't played here, the stretch

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<v Speaker 1>where you really want to take advantage of. Here is

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<v Speaker 1>on our front nine. We have a from from all

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<v Speaker 1>the way back, like a six hundred yard.

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<v Speaker 2>Starting number five years.

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<v Speaker 1>The fifth hole is around a six hundred yard but

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<v Speaker 1>they normally play it a little bit of Yeah, but

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<v Speaker 1>they're playing it over five. Yeah, they're over five fifty.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a par five. Six is a driveable par four,

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<v Speaker 1>and then seven is a gettable depending on the wind,

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<v Speaker 1>but it would be the easiest, should be the easiest.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a par five. So you've got par five drivable,

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<v Speaker 1>par four, par five. That's where you need to make

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<v Speaker 1>your score. That's where you need to kind of pick up.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's always interesting to watch when we have the

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<v Speaker 1>best college players in the country, watch them how they

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<v Speaker 1>play that that three hole stretch, how aggressive they are

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<v Speaker 1>and do they pick up shots? How many shots do

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<v Speaker 1>they pick up? So if you've got an easy stretch

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<v Speaker 1>of your golf course, every golf course has an easy stretch,

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<v Speaker 1>and here at the Floridian, that is the easy stretch.

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<v Speaker 1>Par five, drivable, par four, gettible reachable par five, right,

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<v Speaker 1>so you could conceivably play that in four or five

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<v Speaker 1>under conably. Yet yeah, I mean, you could you could

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<v Speaker 1>go egle eagle eagle, but you're looking to not give

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<v Speaker 1>shots way. So again, we're watching some of the best

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<v Speaker 1>college players in the country, some of the best amateurs

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<v Speaker 1>in the world still make mistakes on gettible holes.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's it's It's really great for because I had

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<v Speaker 2>one of our juniors on a team out there today.

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<v Speaker 2>It's really great for him to see that the these

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<v Speaker 2>guys are human and there we were on seventeen and eighteen.

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<v Speaker 2>That's where I saw our sergeant make make the quad

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<v Speaker 2>on eighteen and seventeen. The seventeenth hole actually played basically

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<v Speaker 2>right in the middle of the pack for the holes

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<v Speaker 2>they played at four point three shots over par and

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<v Speaker 2>it's basically a two twenty shot off the tee, maybe

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<v Speaker 2>into the wind today, so maybe it's playing two fifty

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<v Speaker 2>and then it's a wedge on the grind and where

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<v Speaker 2>the pin was today. I saw at least a three

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<v Speaker 2>plot from every player or what from one player for

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<v Speaker 2>every group that I saw, especially the ones that were the.

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<v Speaker 1>Hole just getting out of position with a pott that's downhill,

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<v Speaker 1>got a lot of speed, it's probably windy.

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<v Speaker 2>It's one of our signature holes.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, green's exposed.

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<v Speaker 2>It's exposed to the water. The wind's coming in off

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<v Speaker 2>the water. It's like three separate greens in wand today

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<v Speaker 2>the pinless kind of front right inside the bowl. If

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<v Speaker 2>you if you were out out side of the ball,

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<v Speaker 2>you are pressing five plus eight nine feet to make

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<v Speaker 2>your two button, and a lot of them didn't.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and that is an example of positioning your golf ball.

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<v Speaker 1>So you want to say, as a player, regardless of

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<v Speaker 1>your handicap range, figure out where the pin is. We're

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<v Speaker 1>watching some of the best college golfers. Who who there

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<v Speaker 1>are people playing in this tournament this week, the Vallsbar

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<v Speaker 1>Collegiate Invitational, who will be playing on the FGA Tour

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<v Speaker 1>in the next two to five years.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we have players who've played in the US Open.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we've got players major. Regardless of what your handicap

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<v Speaker 1>range is, take a look at where the pin is

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<v Speaker 1>and say, okay, let me give myself the easiest leave here.

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<v Speaker 1>So let me lead this. If the pin's on a slope,

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<v Speaker 1>say to yourself, okay, let me get this below the hole.

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<v Speaker 1>It's going to be easier twenty five feet below the

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<v Speaker 1>hole than it is going to be to ten feet

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<v Speaker 1>above the hole. Let me look at where the easiest

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<v Speaker 1>putt is. Do I want to be right of the flag?

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<v Speaker 1>Do I want to be left of the flag. But

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<v Speaker 1>I do think it's interesting that when we are watching

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of these really raw college players, is how

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<v Speaker 1>aggressive they all are. How many I mean, I'm watching,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, over the course of today, I went out

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<v Speaker 1>and I drove around and I'm watching college coaches shake

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<v Speaker 1>their heads watching the mistakes that I can't believe.

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<v Speaker 2>The quad that Gordon Sergeant made today, I just can't

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<v Speaker 2>believe it. Water on the left side, number eighteen. It's

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<v Speaker 2>kind of like pebble beach on the eighteen.

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<v Speaker 1>But how far is it? What the planet today?

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<v Speaker 2>We were pretty far back, so maybe four eighty.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so it's four eighty. But you've got to figure

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<v Speaker 1>a kid like Gordon Sergeant hits his four iron how

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<v Speaker 1>far to fifty? Yeah, so he doesn't even need to

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<v Speaker 1>hit driver. There, he hits driver, right, he hits driver

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<v Speaker 1>and he starts it over the water.

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<v Speaker 2>He starts it over the water and.

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<v Speaker 1>It basically double crossed. It didn't cut, didn't do anything.

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<v Speaker 2>We're just basically hit it right on a rope, lined

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<v Speaker 2>up right at the edge of the green, right side of.

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<v Speaker 1>The green, thinking probably he was gonna cut a little bit.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, that's probably brown fifteen twenty five out there,

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<v Speaker 2>hit a dead straight right through it.

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<v Speaker 1>And the wind's flowing from left to.

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<v Speaker 2>Right to right, left to right for the player.

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<v Speaker 1>Left to right. So picture this, so standing on the

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<v Speaker 1>eighteenth hole, water all the way down the left hand side,

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<v Speaker 1>wind left to right. So this player, Gordon thinks, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just gonna hammer driver down there right the wind's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna push it. I'm gonna have nothing left because he

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<v Speaker 1>can take advantage of his unbelievable length, and again.

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<v Speaker 2>He ends up having to drop maybe one hundred and

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<v Speaker 2>fifty yards off the team. Maybe I didn't see exactly

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<v Speaker 2>where he dropped from. It was close that he could

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<v Speaker 2>barely advance out past the tee. It was. It was

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<v Speaker 2>pretty close. So the players decided, you know, probably one

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<v Speaker 2>hundred and fifty other So he had like three probably

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<v Speaker 2>plus three hundred plus coming in.

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<v Speaker 1>So what do you do that next?

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<v Speaker 2>Hits An Iron didn't see the rest of the hole unfold.

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<v Speaker 2>I was back on seventeen waiting for Clinton to come through.

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<v Speaker 2>But whatever the matter is, you just so.

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<v Speaker 1>When you make an eight on a par four that's

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<v Speaker 1>almost five hundred yards, you've got to ask yourself. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>for a kid like Gordon Sergeant, he could hit five iron.

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<v Speaker 2>We play this game all the time. I mean, look

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<v Speaker 2>at we talked about this in round offence all the time.

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<v Speaker 2>You could literally go five iron, five iron, five iron

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<v Speaker 2>and not even have a putter and maybe two for

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<v Speaker 2>two putt for Bogie in that situation. Whatever. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know where Vanderbilt I think Vannerbelt finished second. Let me

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<v Speaker 2>bring it up here.

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<v Speaker 1>They finished second.

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<v Speaker 2>As a team, they finished four shots behind Florida. Potentially

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<v Speaker 2>a par there ties the tournament.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know how all the other scores unfolded.

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<v Speaker 1>But when you're doing the math like that, he's going

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<v Speaker 1>to look back at this and say, yeah, okay, I

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<v Speaker 1>make there. Maybe we have a chance as a team

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<v Speaker 1>to make to win. There's a lot of other variables,

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<v Speaker 1>but in just doing some simple math, his coaches will

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<v Speaker 1>be saying to him, hey, you make a par there,

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<v Speaker 1>we have a chance to win this tournament potentially.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. So Cole Sherwood sixty six.

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<v Speaker 1>Today, Well here's the thing. R See if he does

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<v Speaker 1>make par instead of making an eight on a par four.

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<v Speaker 1>They've got a hell of a lot better chance, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>to have an opportunity to win the golf tournament. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>than finishing four back and not winning.

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<v Speaker 2>They had the count of sixty six, sixty four, seventy

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<v Speaker 2>and then the fourth score was seventy two.

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<v Speaker 1>Seventeenth hole, Bryan, it's a drivable par four for us

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<v Speaker 1>here at Floridian.

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<v Speaker 2>Great great design.

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<v Speaker 1>How many players were you seeing try and go for

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<v Speaker 1>the green.

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<v Speaker 2>I'd not see anyone go for the green, not even

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<v Speaker 2>Gordon straight into the win today.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so there's no real reward and there's no real

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<v Speaker 1>place to hit driver on our seventeenth hole. The winds

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<v Speaker 1>blowing like that, it's into you've got a better chance

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<v Speaker 1>if you take and driver of hitting it into one

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<v Speaker 1>of the bunkers, then you have by just.

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<v Speaker 2>I would say if three is a relatively easy driving

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<v Speaker 2>hole or a driving course except for fourteen and eighteen here,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's sixty yards wide with a foe iron off

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<v Speaker 2>that tee with some of you guys the way they

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<v Speaker 2>hit it sixty yards two bunkers out there, I mean

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<v Speaker 2>it's no layup right. The green is a diabolically creative,

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<v Speaker 2>three greens and one type of green, and where the

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<v Speaker 2>pen today was just diabolical. Today's wind back right front,

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<v Speaker 2>right side the bowl. Yeah, so above the hole. Seven

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<v Speaker 2>eighths of the green is above the hole, and if

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<v Speaker 2>you're above the hole, you're pretty much lucky if you

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<v Speaker 2>make your eight foot or comeback for apart. So a

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<v Speaker 2>great pen placement today. And again I get the stats.

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<v Speaker 2>Played probably the ninth or tenth hardest hole.

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<v Speaker 1>And how far is it.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't see exactly where they teed it up from today,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's it's three seventy five maybe five. So Brooks

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<v Speaker 2>has done the famous commercial there, done that, so it

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<v Speaker 2>got the gain been on the green from every two

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<v Speaker 2>box there. So it's relatively driveable. It can be done.

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<v Speaker 2>Not today with today's wind. But the greens today were

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<v Speaker 2>just lightning, which is really our main defense the green

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<v Speaker 2>complexes in the chipping and putting.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and so when it does get really really windy,

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<v Speaker 1>the greens are going to get firmer. The greens are

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<v Speaker 1>going to get great today faster. Tell everybody listening, Ryan,

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<v Speaker 1>when you are out there in windy conditions, like we

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<v Speaker 1>saw the college kids today, and we saw them yesterday

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<v Speaker 1>do it was pretty windy. How is that going to

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<v Speaker 1>affect putting? And how is that going to affect short game?

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<v Speaker 2>It definitely affects putting. It may, especially when those greens

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<v Speaker 2>were exposed like seventeen and eighteen, they could add another

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<v Speaker 2>two or three cups depending upon where the grain is

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<v Speaker 2>coming in your angle. So it is a factor for sure,

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<v Speaker 2>especially when it's gusting. It just makes putting really hard

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<v Speaker 2>when it's that windy.

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<v Speaker 1>If you're putting, if it's windy and your downwind, and

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<v Speaker 1>you've got a twenty thirty foot foot putt and you're

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<v Speaker 1>putting down wind, it is going to have an effect.

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<v Speaker 1>It's going to add big it's going to add speed.

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<v Speaker 1>If you're hitting into the breeze, it's going to add speed.

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<v Speaker 1>If you've got puts at or barking left to right,

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<v Speaker 1>if you've got putts that are breaking right to left

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<v Speaker 1>the wind, if you are playing in a very very

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<v Speaker 1>windy conditioned day, you need to take that into account.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, a lot of players never think about it. I

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<v Speaker 2>think whether it's uh, the ball is too low to

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<v Speaker 2>the ground, whatever, it makes a big difference, especially at

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<v Speaker 2>the speed of today's greens.

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<v Speaker 1>One of the other things I always love about watching

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<v Speaker 1>all these college kids play is just the sheer, reckless

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<v Speaker 1>abandon that they drive the golf ball with. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>it's just you just do not see any kids today

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<v Speaker 1>have any driver swings that look like they are trying

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<v Speaker 1>to hit a fair way.

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<v Speaker 2>I would say give some of the kids today some

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<v Speaker 2>credits since it's been a couple hours and eighteen. There

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<v Speaker 2>were a few guys hitting iron off that tea. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>fairway woods off that tee. But everybody who did that

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<v Speaker 2>hit kind of the low fairway finder that we always

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<v Speaker 2>preach about. Yeah, just have.

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<v Speaker 1>That low bullet, keep it out of the wind, keep

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<v Speaker 1>it out of the crosswind.

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<v Speaker 2>If I was I should have been keeping stats. But

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<v Speaker 2>everybody who hit driver there just either like sergeant, ride

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<v Speaker 2>the water or way right into the woods into the

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<v Speaker 2>cottages and you're making bogie from there. Yes, at best

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<v Speaker 2>you're struggling. So just these maybe based on the score

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<v Speaker 2>where those guys were playing, I was basically watching them

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<v Speaker 2>the leading groups coming in the smart play there with

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<v Speaker 2>the kids. How far they hit it these days, you

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<v Speaker 2>just banging out there of the bunker, get it in play.

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<v Speaker 2>It's going to be two hundred maybe maxim get on the.

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<v Speaker 1>Front edge of these kids. But just even if you

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<v Speaker 1>just get it up on the front. But I guess

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<v Speaker 1>it's important that everyone listening hear this. There isn't a

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<v Speaker 1>place on the scorecard for you to write anything in

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<v Speaker 1>the box where the score goes other than the score.

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<v Speaker 1>That's why they make it tiny little box. And if

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<v Speaker 1>you make a par, or you make a birdie, or

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<v Speaker 1>you make a bow gear, you make double. There are

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<v Speaker 1>a million different ways you can make a par. There

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<v Speaker 1>are a million different ways you can make a bogie,

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<v Speaker 1>a birdie, a double. So the holes are designed to

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<v Speaker 1>be played a million different ways. You don't always you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a tough driving hole of the eighteenth hole. There's

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<v Speaker 1>water all the way down the left hand side, there's

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<v Speaker 1>wind coming from left to right.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a tough we're already on the defense.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's already screaming defense, defense, defense, defense, defense, defense. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>if you choose on that hole to play offense and

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<v Speaker 1>rip driver down there you and hit the fairway, you

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<v Speaker 1>are going to be rewarded with a shorter iron shot.

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<v Speaker 1>Then if you take the safe play and say, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't necessarily need to hit driver here, I could

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<v Speaker 1>hit an iron, but if you hit the fairway, you're

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<v Speaker 1>going to be rewarded. If you took an iron off

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<v Speaker 1>a t you're going to be rewarded with hitting an

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<v Speaker 1>iron shot from the fairway. If you hit driver, try

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<v Speaker 1>and be aggressive and don't hit that fairway, you're either

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<v Speaker 1>reteeing from the t box because you've rinsed it in

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<v Speaker 1>the water, or the eighteenth hole at the Floridian. If

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<v Speaker 1>you missed the fairway to the right, it's finable. It's finable,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's you're behind houses, you're in trees, you've got

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<v Speaker 1>sandy lies. So that's the reward you're going to hit.

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<v Speaker 1>So or get for trying to be aggressive off the

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<v Speaker 1>tee and if you don't pull it off. So there's

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<v Speaker 1>always that risk reward. Everyone thinks risk reward is going

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<v Speaker 1>for a driveable par four. That is not risk reward.

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<v Speaker 1>Risk reward is I have a very difficult hole. It's

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<v Speaker 1>got trouble all over the place. Let me just try

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<v Speaker 1>and make a par well.

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<v Speaker 2>Let me give you this stat for eighteen. So the

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<v Speaker 2>hardest hold for the tournament this year usually it's between

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<v Speaker 2>nine eleven eighteen. The field's going over are just four

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<v Speaker 2>point seven to two.

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<v Speaker 1>On which hole eighteen four point seven to two.

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<v Speaker 2>There were nine birdies made.

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<v Speaker 1>There for fifty four holes.

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<v Speaker 2>The best players in college go soies.

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<v Speaker 1>Nine thirties on a par four.

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<v Speaker 2>For the tournament. There is no reward in eighteen other

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<v Speaker 2>than par or even bogie in some cases.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the type of hole to where over the course

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<v Speaker 1>of the of the course of the three days, you're

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<v Speaker 1>saying to yourself, Okay, if I play this hole for

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<v Speaker 1>the three rounds one over, you're picking up, picking up

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<v Speaker 1>massively shots against the field. Right, So, risk reward is

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<v Speaker 1>not always.

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<v Speaker 2>A percentage play.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's okay. This is a hard hole. I'm trying

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<v Speaker 1>to find a way to describe it because in my head,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going, okay, risk reward is okay. There are just

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<v Speaker 1>some holes you know, at your course, at your home course,

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<v Speaker 1>where you play all the time.

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<v Speaker 2>Listen, there's no reward on this whole.

0:24:40.000 --> 0:24:42.359
<v Speaker 1>There's no reward on this hole, and it comes at

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<v Speaker 1>a time to where this is kind of a difficult

0:24:45.080 --> 0:24:49.840
<v Speaker 1>stretch in the golf course as well. So for everyone listening,

0:24:50.359 --> 0:24:53.840
<v Speaker 1>look at that stretch, or look at the stretches at

0:24:53.880 --> 0:24:57.080
<v Speaker 1>your home course. It's you find difficult, right, because there

0:24:57.080 --> 0:25:00.600
<v Speaker 1>are just going to be holes and stretches to too.

0:25:00.640 --> 0:25:02.520
<v Speaker 1>I think most people have that kind of two to

0:25:02.600 --> 0:25:05.240
<v Speaker 1>four hole stretch where you're just like, man, I never

0:25:05.280 --> 0:25:07.720
<v Speaker 1>play these holes good. There are a lot of tough

0:25:07.800 --> 0:25:11.000
<v Speaker 1>driving holes in this stretch. There may be long it's

0:25:11.119 --> 0:25:13.920
<v Speaker 1>tough part four wherever it is, but you are going

0:25:13.960 --> 0:25:17.280
<v Speaker 1>to have that tough stretch, which we have here at

0:25:17.320 --> 0:25:21.080
<v Speaker 1>the Floridian. But we started off talking about the easy

0:25:21.119 --> 0:25:24.399
<v Speaker 1>stretch here, so you're trying to take advantage of the

0:25:24.440 --> 0:25:27.840
<v Speaker 1>easy stretch, but you're also looking at the hard holes

0:25:27.880 --> 0:25:30.200
<v Speaker 1>and saying, Okay, if I can just play these hard

0:25:30.240 --> 0:25:33.240
<v Speaker 1>holes in flat, you know, just play them in even

0:25:33.280 --> 0:25:36.920
<v Speaker 1>par for the week, play them even par today, play

0:25:36.960 --> 0:25:40.560
<v Speaker 1>the par threes. You know. Jonathan Dismok, who's the head

0:25:40.560 --> 0:25:43.919
<v Speaker 1>coach at the University of Houston their golf team, one

0:25:43.960 --> 0:25:46.840
<v Speaker 1>of the hosts here, Diz asked me to talk to

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<v Speaker 1>the entire team the other day. I think there were

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<v Speaker 1>seven or eight of the guys here from the University

0:25:51.760 --> 0:25:53.800
<v Speaker 1>of Houston, and I said that to him. I'm like,

0:25:54.440 --> 0:25:56.560
<v Speaker 1>you would expect someone like me, who works with the

0:25:56.560 --> 0:25:58.440
<v Speaker 1>players I work with, to give you all sorts of

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<v Speaker 1>swing advice about your golf swing, that about your technique,

0:26:01.359 --> 0:26:04.560
<v Speaker 1>and I just was pounding guys and just don't even

0:26:04.560 --> 0:26:06.240
<v Speaker 1>aim at the flag on the par three. Just play

0:26:06.280 --> 0:26:10.520
<v Speaker 1>them even for the week. Yeah. Just round defense is

0:26:10.560 --> 0:26:14.000
<v Speaker 1>something that we do with our juniors. Are our players

0:26:14.000 --> 0:26:18.159
<v Speaker 1>that we have in this called team flow, and we

0:26:18.320 --> 0:26:20.800
<v Speaker 1>put you up in front of your your peers. We

0:26:20.920 --> 0:26:23.840
<v Speaker 1>put you, we put your scorecard up on the board,

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<v Speaker 1>and then normally we've got a computer and or another

0:26:26.600 --> 0:26:28.800
<v Speaker 1>TV and if you've made a big number on a hole,

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<v Speaker 1>we put your screen cast on. All right, here's your number.

0:26:36.920 --> 0:26:39.320
<v Speaker 1>This is a screen cast of what the whole looks

0:26:39.400 --> 0:26:41.600
<v Speaker 1>like from you can go online and look at that

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<v Speaker 1>and say, all right, so Gordon, sergeant, talk us through

0:26:45.359 --> 0:26:49.240
<v Speaker 1>the eight. Talk us through why you made the decision

0:26:49.359 --> 0:26:51.840
<v Speaker 1>to choose driver. I mean that's the first question i'd

0:26:51.840 --> 0:26:56.119
<v Speaker 1>ask'd say, Okay, Gordon, obviously, with your length, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and the way you drive the golf ball, it's a massive,

0:27:00.480 --> 0:27:03.840
<v Speaker 1>massive strength of yours. But did it ever enter into

0:27:03.840 --> 0:27:05.600
<v Speaker 1>your mind you just made eight on a part four.

0:27:06.119 --> 0:27:08.359
<v Speaker 1>Did it ever enter your mind to not hit driver?

0:27:08.640 --> 0:27:14.520
<v Speaker 1>Or was the hand on the head cover immediately well, here's.

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<v Speaker 2>An example of the thoughts we always hear. I checked

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<v Speaker 2>out after that whole Yeah.

0:27:20.720 --> 0:27:24.920
<v Speaker 1>I can I knew it. Here's my favorite, Stanning. We've

0:27:24.920 --> 0:27:26.800
<v Speaker 1>heard this from players. Stand on a part four May

0:27:26.880 --> 0:27:29.280
<v Speaker 1>and eight. I mean I knew Driver wasn't the play.

0:27:29.320 --> 0:27:31.439
<v Speaker 1>I mean, that's my favorite. When you, as the player

0:27:31.520 --> 0:27:34.480
<v Speaker 1>say I knew Driver wasn't the play, or I knew

0:27:34.480 --> 0:27:38.200
<v Speaker 1>it was the wrong play. When if in your head,

0:27:38.680 --> 0:27:42.200
<v Speaker 1>when you're driving home and you're analyzing your rounds and

0:27:42.320 --> 0:27:44.879
<v Speaker 1>you're looking at yourself in the mirror and you're going

0:27:44.920 --> 0:27:47.120
<v Speaker 1>through the shots that you played, but you're going through

0:27:47.160 --> 0:27:49.679
<v Speaker 1>the hiccups that you had, if in your head you

0:27:49.720 --> 0:27:51.879
<v Speaker 1>were saying to yourself, I knew it was the wrong play.

0:27:52.440 --> 0:27:54.520
<v Speaker 1>I knew what was the wrong shot, I knew it

0:27:54.560 --> 0:27:55.560
<v Speaker 1>was the wrong club.

0:27:55.960 --> 0:27:58.080
<v Speaker 2>Then why you can't need to do it?

0:27:58.160 --> 0:28:02.160
<v Speaker 1>You can change that, yes, just through your thought process.

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<v Speaker 2>And I know we're picking on Gordon, sergeant, but no.

0:28:05.320 --> 0:28:07.360
<v Speaker 1>We're picking on Gordon start. We're not picking on.

0:28:07.359 --> 0:28:10.439
<v Speaker 2>A perfect example. This is this is the perfect example.

0:28:10.440 --> 0:28:15.440
<v Speaker 1>This is not attacking him personally as a player. This

0:28:15.520 --> 0:28:19.520
<v Speaker 1>is us looking at his choice on a par four

0:28:20.000 --> 0:28:24.720
<v Speaker 1>as professionally and saying, Okay, he's one of the best

0:28:24.760 --> 0:28:27.560
<v Speaker 1>players in the world right now, and so I want

0:28:27.600 --> 0:28:29.440
<v Speaker 1>to know why one of the best players in the world,

0:28:29.440 --> 0:28:31.719
<v Speaker 1>who's one of the longest drivers in the world is

0:28:31.760 --> 0:28:33.920
<v Speaker 1>making an eight on a par four. I just want

0:28:33.920 --> 0:28:34.400
<v Speaker 1>to hear what.

0:28:34.280 --> 0:28:36.680
<v Speaker 2>The thought process is exactly. I see that from a.

0:28:36.640 --> 0:28:39.520
<v Speaker 1>Professional standpoint, talk me through what you're thinking here.

0:28:39.600 --> 0:28:41.560
<v Speaker 2>Now that I got his card up, he started on

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<v Speaker 2>two today, he was plus one after after nine he

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<v Speaker 2>actually bogeats number five a par five.

0:28:51.360 --> 0:28:52.880
<v Speaker 1>So Boge's par five, yeap.

0:28:53.040 --> 0:28:57.400
<v Speaker 2>But so he basically started on two, so his finishing

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<v Speaker 2>calls were eighteen and one.

0:29:01.560 --> 0:29:02.400
<v Speaker 1>One's a tough hole.

0:29:03.120 --> 0:29:07.320
<v Speaker 2>It's a tough hole. He goes quad double, he goes

0:29:07.360 --> 0:29:08.920
<v Speaker 2>six over his last two.

0:29:08.920 --> 0:29:11.040
<v Speaker 1>So his last two holes he six over in his

0:29:11.120 --> 0:29:15.000
<v Speaker 1>last two holes. And again from a professional standpoint, everyone,

0:29:15.440 --> 0:29:18.200
<v Speaker 1>this kid will be playing on the PGA Tour in

0:29:18.400 --> 0:29:22.560
<v Speaker 1>the next two years. He will, in my opinion, have

0:29:23.320 --> 0:29:27.040
<v Speaker 1>legit opportunities in the first six months of his professional

0:29:27.080 --> 0:29:30.760
<v Speaker 1>career to win on the PGA Tour. The kid is

0:29:30.800 --> 0:29:35.240
<v Speaker 1>an absolute stud. But my point behind picking.

0:29:34.880 --> 0:29:37.640
<v Speaker 2>On literally just throwing shots.

0:29:37.360 --> 0:29:42.440
<v Speaker 1>Throwing shots away, and this is not a college player

0:29:43.160 --> 0:29:46.640
<v Speaker 1>that everyone listening will never have an opportunity to see play.

0:29:46.720 --> 0:29:48.800
<v Speaker 2>This is an NBA champions.

0:29:48.440 --> 0:29:51.640
<v Speaker 1>You will see him playing in majors. You will see

0:29:51.720 --> 0:29:56.640
<v Speaker 1>him playing in the NC Double A Championships. I mean,

0:29:56.920 --> 0:30:01.040
<v Speaker 1>the kid is a stud. But good pl players with

0:30:01.160 --> 0:30:03.480
<v Speaker 1>all the talent in the world, with all the clubhead

0:30:03.480 --> 0:30:08.880
<v Speaker 1>speed and ball speed in the world, to go quad double,

0:30:09.480 --> 0:30:15.440
<v Speaker 1>they still do it. That is still decision making. That Yeah,

0:30:15.520 --> 0:30:19.160
<v Speaker 1>and again, I've talked about this a zillion times. Gordon

0:30:19.240 --> 0:30:21.240
<v Speaker 1>Sergeant's golf swing, He's trying to make it better. I

0:30:21.240 --> 0:30:24.880
<v Speaker 1>think Gordon's working with Mark Blackburn, who's easily right now,

0:30:24.960 --> 0:30:28.520
<v Speaker 1>the hottest golf instructor on the planet Earth, working with

0:30:28.720 --> 0:30:32.200
<v Speaker 1>the best players on the planet Earth. Right, So he's

0:30:32.360 --> 0:30:36.160
<v Speaker 1>trying to do the right things and make the improvements

0:30:36.240 --> 0:30:40.120
<v Speaker 1>with one of the best coaches instructors in the world. Right.

0:30:40.480 --> 0:30:44.800
<v Speaker 1>He couldn't have any more things going for him than

0:30:44.840 --> 0:30:48.200
<v Speaker 1>he does. And he's a Ferrari on top of that. Right,

0:30:48.200 --> 0:30:52.320
<v Speaker 1>If this is Formula one, he is driving a Ferrari.

0:30:52.880 --> 0:30:55.560
<v Speaker 1>He is driving a red bull. I say he is

0:30:55.600 --> 0:30:58.360
<v Speaker 1>not one of the back of the packs. His car

0:30:58.560 --> 0:31:01.840
<v Speaker 1>is so fast. He's one of the fastest cars in

0:31:01.880 --> 0:31:07.200
<v Speaker 1>the world. But there is still an element of the

0:31:07.280 --> 0:31:10.000
<v Speaker 1>decision making proct and it's not picking on him. He

0:31:10.040 --> 0:31:10.920
<v Speaker 1>could be any.

0:31:10.720 --> 0:31:12.480
<v Speaker 2>Golfers representing a lot of the golf.

0:31:12.320 --> 0:31:15.640
<v Speaker 1>He's representing a large group of golfers. But the reason

0:31:15.680 --> 0:31:18.880
<v Speaker 1>why I wanted us to talk about him today is

0:31:19.040 --> 0:31:22.560
<v Speaker 1>he is a college amateur golfer that you will see

0:31:22.600 --> 0:31:26.520
<v Speaker 1>play on TV. They will be talking about how far

0:31:26.560 --> 0:31:28.880
<v Speaker 1>he drives the golf ball. They will be talking about

0:31:29.160 --> 0:31:33.680
<v Speaker 1>his clubhead speed and ball speed. That being more than Rory,

0:31:34.160 --> 0:31:37.640
<v Speaker 1>more than DJ more than John Rahm. Right, but he's

0:31:37.640 --> 0:31:40.240
<v Speaker 1>still learning. He's still learning how to play. He has

0:31:40.440 --> 0:31:43.080
<v Speaker 1>all the talent in the world. He has all the firepower,

0:31:43.960 --> 0:31:47.840
<v Speaker 1>but he's still like everybody makes big numbers and if

0:31:47.880 --> 0:31:51.080
<v Speaker 1>you can clean that shit up, it makes a huge difference.

0:31:52.120 --> 0:31:57.360
<v Speaker 2>I mean, talk about Luke Clanton. He Bog's eighteen. I

0:31:57.560 --> 0:32:01.720
<v Speaker 2>saw his T shirt there, Bogie, you didn't need to

0:32:01.760 --> 0:32:05.120
<v Speaker 2>make horror birdie to win. He won by five.

0:32:05.240 --> 0:32:09.480
<v Speaker 1>And listen on a difficult hole when you are going

0:32:09.520 --> 0:32:14.680
<v Speaker 1>to that hole with probably a three to five shot lead.

0:32:15.280 --> 0:32:19.600
<v Speaker 1>That's a great example to where in his head he's saying, okay,

0:32:19.960 --> 0:32:24.880
<v Speaker 1>par now is I make is five? Five is making

0:32:24.920 --> 0:32:31.200
<v Speaker 1>par on this hole under these conditions, On a difficult

0:32:31.240 --> 0:32:35.760
<v Speaker 1>hole like this, the field is thinking, okay, bogie is.

0:32:35.760 --> 0:32:41.880
<v Speaker 2>Par yep, exactly right, exactly even for these guys.

0:32:45.440 --> 0:32:48.960
<v Speaker 1>For all of you on your home course, look at

0:32:49.600 --> 0:32:54.720
<v Speaker 1>the course strategy, look at the hard stretches, look at

0:32:54.800 --> 0:32:58.560
<v Speaker 1>the easy stretches, Look at where that those kind of

0:32:59.200 --> 0:33:02.440
<v Speaker 1>easy bird these easy pars are going to be. And

0:33:02.480 --> 0:33:05.600
<v Speaker 1>then through those tough holes, maybe you go to the

0:33:05.640 --> 0:33:08.920
<v Speaker 1>mindset of saying, okay, this is always one of, if

0:33:08.960 --> 0:33:11.720
<v Speaker 1>not the hardest hole on this golf course. Maybe my

0:33:11.960 --> 0:33:16.680
<v Speaker 1>POW is not what it says on the scorecard. Maybe

0:33:16.720 --> 0:33:19.479
<v Speaker 1>my par on a tough par four is okay. If

0:33:19.480 --> 0:33:22.320
<v Speaker 1>I can make bogie, here's a that's a win for

0:33:22.440 --> 0:33:25.560
<v Speaker 1>me on a difficult par four. Listen, I get out

0:33:25.560 --> 0:33:26.280
<v Speaker 1>of here with five.

0:33:27.360 --> 0:33:31.640
<v Speaker 2>I'm laughing, you're laughing, You're and we talk about it

0:33:31.680 --> 0:33:34.400
<v Speaker 2>in around the fence. A lot of football analogies. You know,

0:33:34.480 --> 0:33:37.360
<v Speaker 2>the Patriots are great with Tom Brady back in the day.

0:33:37.920 --> 0:33:40.960
<v Speaker 2>They took what the defense gave him in the four

0:33:40.960 --> 0:33:43.440
<v Speaker 2>minute drill of the two minute drill, and a lot

0:33:43.440 --> 0:33:47.120
<v Speaker 2>of golfers don't take take what the course is giving

0:33:47.240 --> 0:33:49.200
<v Speaker 2>has given you. You were trying to hit the home run,

0:33:49.240 --> 0:33:51.360
<v Speaker 2>you're trying to throw the eighty yard out.

0:33:51.640 --> 0:33:57.360
<v Speaker 1>You're trying to do something spectacular where kind of boring, boring,

0:33:57.840 --> 0:34:01.840
<v Speaker 1>boring golf gets it done a lot of times and

0:34:02.000 --> 0:34:07.000
<v Speaker 1>just a lot of pars. Make the odd more, make

0:34:07.440 --> 0:34:10.759
<v Speaker 1>one more bogie around Brooks. And again I've said this

0:34:10.760 --> 0:34:13.040
<v Speaker 1>a million times. Brooks has always said that he is

0:34:13.160 --> 0:34:20.560
<v Speaker 1>willing to sacrifice a birdie by giving up making a bogie.

0:34:21.280 --> 0:34:25.240
<v Speaker 1>So the choice between birdie versus bogie, He's like, listen,

0:34:25.560 --> 0:34:30.200
<v Speaker 1>I'll give up a birdie if I cannot make a bogie.

0:34:30.320 --> 0:34:34.400
<v Speaker 2>Yep, he'll name that way. You'll name that way, especially

0:34:34.400 --> 0:34:36.440
<v Speaker 2>at the majors. Then this is so penal.

0:34:36.560 --> 0:34:41.000
<v Speaker 1>So every time, I'd say, for the majority of the people,

0:34:41.160 --> 0:34:44.880
<v Speaker 1>for ninety nine percent of the people listening to this podcast,

0:34:45.120 --> 0:34:50.400
<v Speaker 1>their weekly round of golf is their major relative to

0:34:50.480 --> 0:34:53.640
<v Speaker 1>their skill level, the golf course is tough for them.

0:34:54.200 --> 0:34:57.320
<v Speaker 1>Their home golf. I can't imagine the majority of the

0:34:57.360 --> 0:34:59.560
<v Speaker 1>people listen to this podcast are gonna tell me their

0:34:59.560 --> 0:35:02.799
<v Speaker 1>their home the course is easy, right, Oh yeah, my

0:35:02.800 --> 0:35:05.399
<v Speaker 1>home course is a really easy golf course. I would

0:35:05.400 --> 0:35:10.280
<v Speaker 1>say for the majority of people playing golf, whatever course

0:35:10.320 --> 0:35:13.840
<v Speaker 1>they're playing is basically like a major. The rough is

0:35:13.880 --> 0:35:16.239
<v Speaker 1>tough for them. Driving it is tough for them. The

0:35:16.280 --> 0:35:19.279
<v Speaker 1>green complexes are tough for them. The misses short game

0:35:19.280 --> 0:35:21.320
<v Speaker 1>are tough for them. There are a lot of penalty

0:35:21.320 --> 0:35:24.879
<v Speaker 1>shots relative to their talent level. So my point being

0:35:26.120 --> 0:35:30.960
<v Speaker 1>getting the ball in play, thinking about it logically, and

0:35:31.640 --> 0:35:36.520
<v Speaker 1>not always take your version of what the course is

0:35:36.520 --> 0:35:40.839
<v Speaker 1>giving you. Don't let the architect dictate to you what

0:35:40.920 --> 0:35:42.920
<v Speaker 1>you have to do on the golf course. Correct You

0:35:43.160 --> 0:35:45.520
<v Speaker 1>dictate to the golf course what you're going to do

0:35:46.040 --> 0:35:47.160
<v Speaker 1>based off your skill.

0:35:47.000 --> 0:35:49.120
<v Speaker 2>Level, except what you have for the day. If I'm

0:35:49.120 --> 0:35:50.920
<v Speaker 2>not in my driver, I'm going to go to my

0:35:51.000 --> 0:35:55.600
<v Speaker 2>through wood, all right, bring or accept and bring that

0:35:55.920 --> 0:35:58.799
<v Speaker 2>to the course and see what happens. Some of your

0:35:58.800 --> 0:36:03.359
<v Speaker 2>best rounds are almost forgettable because you had no drama, right,

0:36:03.960 --> 0:36:06.080
<v Speaker 2>Some of the rounds with your friends that seem like

0:36:06.160 --> 0:36:08.160
<v Speaker 2>they did nothing out there and they came home at

0:36:08.239 --> 0:36:10.920
<v Speaker 2>three under because there is no drama. Its boring.

0:36:11.160 --> 0:36:18.120
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And the opposite happens on tour. You will you

0:36:18.160 --> 0:36:20.399
<v Speaker 1>will talk to tour players that will play with young

0:36:20.440 --> 0:36:23.200
<v Speaker 1>players and they were like, Oh, I didn't even add

0:36:23.280 --> 0:36:25.680
<v Speaker 1>up when he shot today because he was all over

0:36:25.719 --> 0:36:29.160
<v Speaker 1>the place, right, And I looked and I couldn't believe

0:36:29.200 --> 0:36:34.640
<v Speaker 1>that he shot under par. Or someone will shoot sixty

0:36:34.719 --> 0:36:37.640
<v Speaker 1>six and the guy keeping his card will go. Man,

0:36:37.640 --> 0:36:41.239
<v Speaker 1>I thought the guy was going to shoot sixty today, right.

0:36:42.160 --> 0:36:46.720
<v Speaker 1>But the golf course is there for you to play

0:36:46.760 --> 0:36:50.799
<v Speaker 1>it the way you see fit, in the way it

0:36:50.840 --> 0:36:52.400
<v Speaker 1>works around your game.

0:36:53.160 --> 0:36:58.200
<v Speaker 2>Yes, yes, don't let the course dictate your reactions, your

0:36:58.200 --> 0:37:04.200
<v Speaker 2>emotions except what you have. Make the outlet pass, lay

0:37:04.200 --> 0:37:04.760
<v Speaker 2>it up.

0:37:04.800 --> 0:37:08.440
<v Speaker 1>The easy play you've been easy? Yeah, crazy. I mean

0:37:08.480 --> 0:37:10.239
<v Speaker 1>it's always like I said at the beginning, it's always

0:37:10.280 --> 0:37:11.719
<v Speaker 1>a fun time of the year. And I think the

0:37:11.760 --> 0:37:14.120
<v Speaker 1>great thing for us over the last decade is we

0:37:14.200 --> 0:37:16.040
<v Speaker 1>have seen a lot of these young players or he

0:37:16.120 --> 0:37:18.960
<v Speaker 1>come in in their infancy. I mean Victor Hovlin. I

0:37:18.960 --> 0:37:20.360
<v Speaker 1>mean we've talked to him about that. I mean the

0:37:20.360 --> 0:37:22.480
<v Speaker 1>fact that he is a member at this club now

0:37:22.480 --> 0:37:26.080
<v Speaker 1>and we watched him plays as a college.

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<v Speaker 2>We probably played three times, yes.

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<v Speaker 1>So we probably saw him sophomore, junior, senior year. And

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<v Speaker 1>to see where his game is gone. And we have

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<v Speaker 1>seen a lot of players that are playing here in

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<v Speaker 1>this over the last ten years go on and play

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<v Speaker 1>all over the world.

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<v Speaker 2>Clann has punched his ticket to the Ballast Bar next year.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so you'll be able to watch him, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>play a PGA Tour event. But I know you love

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<v Speaker 1>this week and it really is kind of a microcosm

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<v Speaker 1>of what kind of golf, but competitive golf is. All

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<v Speaker 1>of these players have tremendous firepower. R see, they all

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<v Speaker 1>have tremendous skill. That's why they're playing Division one college

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<v Speaker 1>golf for some very very big, big programs, for some

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<v Speaker 1>big teams with some big coaches. A lot of the

0:38:13.320 --> 0:38:16.000
<v Speaker 1>players playing here this week are playing for coaches that

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<v Speaker 1>have coach players that have won national championships, that have

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<v Speaker 1>won NCUBLEA, individuals that have won US ams, that have

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<v Speaker 1>won British Ams. But they still make mistakes and they

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<v Speaker 1>still are learning their craft.

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<v Speaker 2>Yep. So mistakes that they make maybe maybe magnify today

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<v Speaker 2>just because we have these expectations that they're so good,

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<v Speaker 2>but they're simply making the same mistakes that everybody else makes. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>So they are actually human and it was good for

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<v Speaker 2>our juniors to kind of see that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And one of the things that I think it

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<v Speaker 1>is important. I was listening to the High Performance podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>Gordon Ramsey was on it, the famous Scottish chef, and

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<v Speaker 1>he said something, and I've talked about this, but this

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<v Speaker 1>deep dive that we kind of took in about you know,

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<v Speaker 1>Gordon sergent, it's not a personal attack on them. It's

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<v Speaker 1>a professional question, right, It's a professional question to look

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<v Speaker 1>at a player like that. So when your coaches or

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<v Speaker 1>when someone says something to them, you know, you don't

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<v Speaker 1>always have to take it personally. You can take it professionally.

0:39:22.560 --> 0:39:26.640
<v Speaker 1>You can take it situational to where someone's saying, hey, listen,

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<v Speaker 1>I just want to know the thought process behind the

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<v Speaker 1>eight that you made on a par four that you

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<v Speaker 1>could easily make bogie on. And I think it is

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<v Speaker 1>interesting for us as coaches watching all of these, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>enormously talented young players come through here every year. It's

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<v Speaker 1>so much fun for us to watch the way they

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<v Speaker 1>play our home course and to see the scores that

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<v Speaker 1>they shoot around the course that we play all the time.

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<v Speaker 2>Yep, I wish you played it all the time. We

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<v Speaker 2>haven't played it more than once in the past three years.

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<v Speaker 1>Out the Glamorous life of the Golf Business RC, thanks

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<v Speaker 1>for doing that. I thought it was I thought it

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<v Speaker 1>was an important one to talk to. You know, it's

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<v Speaker 1>easy to look at all the things that players are

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<v Speaker 1>doing well, but I do think sometimes you can take

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<v Speaker 1>a look at some of the things that players do

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<v Speaker 1>poorly and say, okay, yeah, that's where I can reflect

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<v Speaker 1>my game. You're not going to go out if you're

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<v Speaker 1>a fifteen to twenty five handicap, You're not going to

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<v Speaker 1>shoot sixty six. So watching the PGA Tour is very,

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<v Speaker 1>very skewed because it's not really going to help you

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<v Speaker 1>learn anything. I think if everybody that was a fifteen

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<v Speaker 1>to twenty five handicapper could have come and watched this

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<v Speaker 1>college tournament today, you would see players that are infinitely

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<v Speaker 1>more talented than you making kind of some of the

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<v Speaker 1>same mistakes you're making mentally or course management wise as

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<v Speaker 1>you're making. If you're a fifteen to twenty five handicap.

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<v Speaker 2>Yep, you know, we say, you know player with gratitude.

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<v Speaker 2>You get eighteen holes of gratitude out there right, talk

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<v Speaker 2>about protecting your ball, talk about playing responsibly just to

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<v Speaker 2>minimize all the drama of the mistakes, and.

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<v Speaker 1>A great game that we play last one. That'll throw

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<v Speaker 1>out everybody. A great game that we play with everyone here.

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<v Speaker 1>We get all our juniors and our members that are

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<v Speaker 1>on team flow, we get them together in one of

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<v Speaker 1>the days is who can play the most amount of

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<v Speaker 1>holes with one ball. If you hit one out of bounds,

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<v Speaker 1>or you hit one in the water, or you lose

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<v Speaker 1>one walking home, you're done. You get to watch. So

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<v Speaker 1>next time you go out and play, go play nine

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<v Speaker 1>holes late and just say, Okay, I'm going to defend

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<v Speaker 1>my ball today, whatever I have to do. I am

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<v Speaker 1>going to try and play nine holes with the ball

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<v Speaker 1>that I started with on the first tack. So if

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<v Speaker 1>you hit it into trouble, you've got to protect your ball.

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<v Speaker 1>Protecting your ball is the most important thing. So if

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<v Speaker 1>there's water, there's out of bounds, if there's places you

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<v Speaker 1>could lose your ball, you have to make the decision

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<v Speaker 1>to protect your ball so that you don't lose it.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't lose your ball. Protect your ball.

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<v Speaker 2>That's it, man, that's it. Play responsibly, Play responsibly.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, Arci, thanks for talking to us Sonova, Butch

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