1 00:00:06,480 --> 00:00:08,159 Speaker 1: It's the Son of a Butcher podcast. We come to 2 00:00:08,200 --> 00:00:11,560 Speaker 1: you every Wednesday. This week's guest Ryan Chrysler. We've had 3 00:00:11,600 --> 00:00:13,720 Speaker 1: him on the pod before. Works with me here at 4 00:00:13,760 --> 00:00:16,560 Speaker 1: the Floridian. One of the best instructors in the country. 5 00:00:16,560 --> 00:00:19,120 Speaker 1: But Ryan, it's always a fun week for us here 6 00:00:19,160 --> 00:00:22,920 Speaker 1: at Floridian. We had the Valsbar Collegiate Invitational this week. 7 00:00:23,960 --> 00:00:25,880 Speaker 1: Some of the best college teams in the country. Some 8 00:00:25,920 --> 00:00:27,600 Speaker 1: of the best college players in the country. Would we 9 00:00:27,640 --> 00:00:30,280 Speaker 1: have eleven of the top twenty at PGA Tour you 10 00:00:31,640 --> 00:00:39,720 Speaker 1: some of the packed stacked powerhouses Texas, Oklahoma, Alabama. I mean, 11 00:00:40,440 --> 00:00:42,920 Speaker 1: there are some really good North Carolina. They're one of 12 00:00:42,960 --> 00:00:46,240 Speaker 1: the best teams in the country. Florida State one Luke 13 00:00:46,280 --> 00:00:51,000 Speaker 1: Clanton who plays at Florida State. He won. But it's 14 00:00:51,040 --> 00:00:54,040 Speaker 1: really cool for us because we've watched this now. I mean, 15 00:00:54,040 --> 00:00:55,760 Speaker 1: how many years has this been going rc I. 16 00:00:55,760 --> 00:00:58,240 Speaker 2: Think at least ten years, ten years. 17 00:00:58,520 --> 00:01:01,200 Speaker 1: And one of the cool things that that we started here. 18 00:01:01,520 --> 00:01:05,720 Speaker 1: The winner of this collegiate tournament gets an invite into 19 00:01:06,200 --> 00:01:09,880 Speaker 1: the twenty twenty five vals Bar on the PGA Tour. 20 00:01:10,240 --> 00:01:13,240 Speaker 1: So everyone that's won this tournament is going on to 21 00:01:13,319 --> 00:01:16,200 Speaker 1: play in a PGA Tour event. I think Ryan, that's 22 00:01:16,240 --> 00:01:18,600 Speaker 1: one of the things that didn't you know, when I 23 00:01:18,600 --> 00:01:19,920 Speaker 1: talk to my dad, when I talk to some of 24 00:01:19,959 --> 00:01:23,720 Speaker 1: the old guard, that didn't happen as much. Amateurs, college 25 00:01:23,760 --> 00:01:27,760 Speaker 1: players were not getting the access to professional tournaments the 26 00:01:27,760 --> 00:01:28,520 Speaker 1: way they are now. 27 00:01:28,920 --> 00:01:32,800 Speaker 2: Correct. Yeah, Back in my day, you get your car 28 00:01:32,880 --> 00:01:36,200 Speaker 2: through Q school and it's kind of gotten contracted a 29 00:01:36,240 --> 00:01:38,640 Speaker 2: little bit over the years. But now with PGA two 30 00:01:38,720 --> 00:01:40,760 Speaker 2: or you, all the players that are here this week, 31 00:01:40,800 --> 00:01:43,319 Speaker 2: they have a chance to get a car, you know, 32 00:01:44,000 --> 00:01:46,880 Speaker 2: and to get an event, an extra ticket, to punch 33 00:01:46,880 --> 00:01:49,240 Speaker 2: an event to a tour player, for a turn for turn, 34 00:01:49,400 --> 00:01:51,720 Speaker 2: a tour tournament that can change your life in one week. 35 00:01:51,880 --> 00:01:53,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, it is an amazing opportunity. You're a 36 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:57,080 Speaker 1: college golfer and you win a tournament in March of 37 00:01:57,120 --> 00:02:00,120 Speaker 1: twenty twenty four, you know that you're going to play 38 00:02:00,160 --> 00:02:03,520 Speaker 1: on the PGA Tour, in APGA Tour event in twenty 39 00:02:03,560 --> 00:02:08,160 Speaker 1: twenty five. We've had some pretty cool winners here. I 40 00:02:08,200 --> 00:02:11,560 Speaker 1: remember coming here and that Oklahoma State that had Victor 41 00:02:11,600 --> 00:02:14,639 Speaker 1: Hovlin on it VIX one here. He's now a member here. 42 00:02:14,800 --> 00:02:19,000 Speaker 1: But Matt Wolf, Chris Vin Tura, they were packed. I 43 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:22,480 Speaker 1: remember watching Cameron Champ play here for the first time. 44 00:02:23,320 --> 00:02:25,800 Speaker 1: We had Gordon Sargent play here this week, who's one 45 00:02:25,880 --> 00:02:27,440 Speaker 1: of the longest players. 46 00:02:27,680 --> 00:02:28,680 Speaker 2: Ab won last year. 47 00:02:28,800 --> 00:02:31,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, lud big Ever won this tournament last year. So 48 00:02:32,120 --> 00:02:34,040 Speaker 1: we have got to see kind of a we've had 49 00:02:34,040 --> 00:02:37,920 Speaker 1: a ringside seat to some of the next generation of 50 00:02:37,960 --> 00:02:41,519 Speaker 1: college golfers. But it's always and that next generation of 51 00:02:41,560 --> 00:02:44,079 Speaker 1: college golfers is going to be the next generation of 52 00:02:44,480 --> 00:02:49,680 Speaker 1: professional golfers on the PGA Tour Europe Live wherever, Asia, wherever. 53 00:02:49,800 --> 00:02:52,520 Speaker 1: But it has been really cool to watch something. I 54 00:02:52,560 --> 00:02:55,640 Speaker 1: remember one year Oklahoma State was playing in our tournament. 55 00:02:55,880 --> 00:02:59,360 Speaker 1: Wyndham Clark, I mean Oklahoma State is their cruising to 56 00:02:59,440 --> 00:03:02,600 Speaker 1: winning the team competition. Would win to make on the 57 00:03:02,639 --> 00:03:07,359 Speaker 1: last hole a man or something. He made double digits 58 00:03:07,400 --> 00:03:09,960 Speaker 1: on the last hole. Ninko was double digits the eighteenth 59 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:13,560 Speaker 1: hole here at our club, the Floridian, very difficult finishing hole, 60 00:03:13,680 --> 00:03:16,320 Speaker 1: water all the way from the te box, all the 61 00:03:16,360 --> 00:03:20,560 Speaker 1: way down the left hand side. It's just a very 62 00:03:20,639 --> 00:03:25,080 Speaker 1: very difficult driving hole. So we've seen over the last 63 00:03:25,120 --> 00:03:28,079 Speaker 1: ten years or see some of the best amateurs, some 64 00:03:28,120 --> 00:03:29,800 Speaker 1: of the best college players in the world who have 65 00:03:29,880 --> 00:03:32,640 Speaker 1: gone on to do great things. You know, Victor Hovlin, 66 00:03:32,720 --> 00:03:36,120 Speaker 1: Camera Champ, Matt Wolf, you know Ludwig. I mean, these 67 00:03:36,160 --> 00:03:39,560 Speaker 1: guys are all studs playing on the big stage now, 68 00:03:39,640 --> 00:03:43,080 Speaker 1: but when we're watching them play on this stage, they're 69 00:03:43,120 --> 00:03:47,040 Speaker 1: still making a lot of the mistakes that we talked about. 70 00:03:47,080 --> 00:03:49,800 Speaker 1: So I wanted to go through kind of you know, 71 00:03:50,120 --> 00:03:53,120 Speaker 1: the guy that won Luke Clanton, So eighteen birdies for 72 00:03:53,240 --> 00:03:58,200 Speaker 1: three rounds, one eagle, yep, six bogies and he wins 73 00:03:58,240 --> 00:04:02,680 Speaker 1: by five shots, win's by five shots. So we kind 74 00:04:02,680 --> 00:04:04,880 Speaker 1: of went through and did a deep dive on his stats. 75 00:04:05,880 --> 00:04:09,480 Speaker 1: So for three rounds, one under or on the par threes, right, 76 00:04:10,160 --> 00:04:14,480 Speaker 1: four under for the week on the par fours, nine 77 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:18,440 Speaker 1: under for the week on the par fives, textbook championship 78 00:04:18,480 --> 00:04:22,400 Speaker 1: numbers I think right, So didn't really make six bogies 79 00:04:22,480 --> 00:04:27,880 Speaker 1: for the week, nothing special, didn't make any big numbers 80 00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:31,520 Speaker 1: to make no triples, right. So Gordon Sergeant, who I 81 00:04:31,520 --> 00:04:34,400 Speaker 1: think most people listening to this will know who he is. 82 00:04:34,600 --> 00:04:36,479 Speaker 1: He played in the Masters last year. I mean, the 83 00:04:36,520 --> 00:04:37,080 Speaker 1: guy is a. 84 00:04:37,320 --> 00:04:39,520 Speaker 2: NCAA champion in twenty twenty two. 85 00:04:39,600 --> 00:04:41,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, he is a stud, right, He's kind of like 86 00:04:41,480 --> 00:04:46,239 Speaker 1: the prototype of what everyone thinks a college golfer will 87 00:04:46,279 --> 00:04:48,120 Speaker 1: look like. You know, there were a lot of people 88 00:04:48,160 --> 00:04:50,520 Speaker 1: when he played at Augusta last year or see that 89 00:04:50,600 --> 00:04:52,960 Speaker 1: early on in the week were saying, due to his length, 90 00:04:53,640 --> 00:04:56,000 Speaker 1: could he be someone that contended. He missed the cup 91 00:04:56,040 --> 00:04:58,760 Speaker 1: by miles, not a diss against him, But my point 92 00:04:58,800 --> 00:05:00,880 Speaker 1: behind this is, so when we go and look at 93 00:05:00,880 --> 00:05:04,480 Speaker 1: Gordon Sergeant, who is everyone thinks he can't mess right. 94 00:05:04,520 --> 00:05:07,479 Speaker 1: Everyone thinks that he will be playing and winning on 95 00:05:07,600 --> 00:05:11,360 Speaker 1: the PGA Tour sometime in the next two years. Right. 96 00:05:11,720 --> 00:05:17,360 Speaker 1: So for the three rounds, twelve birdies, nine bogies, three 97 00:05:17,480 --> 00:05:20,400 Speaker 1: doubles and then on the eighteenth hole here par four 98 00:05:20,600 --> 00:05:25,000 Speaker 1: makes an eight, so a quad right, so easily one 99 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:28,919 Speaker 1: of the longest hitters currently playing competitive professional golf. 100 00:05:29,560 --> 00:05:32,279 Speaker 2: Right, I mean one ninety plus boss easy. 101 00:05:32,400 --> 00:05:35,359 Speaker 1: I mean he cruises. You can go on, you can 102 00:05:35,400 --> 00:05:37,280 Speaker 1: go on Instagram, you can go on YouTube, you can 103 00:05:37,320 --> 00:05:40,680 Speaker 1: go on, and there are a million golf swing nerds 104 00:05:40,720 --> 00:05:44,960 Speaker 1: talking about his golf. The kid is a stud. But 105 00:05:45,040 --> 00:05:49,000 Speaker 1: he still makes three doubles and an eight on a 106 00:05:49,040 --> 00:05:53,280 Speaker 1: par four, nine bogies for the week, so the leader, Yeah, 107 00:05:53,320 --> 00:05:56,640 Speaker 1: he only makes six more birdies. You would think that 108 00:05:56,640 --> 00:05:58,520 Speaker 1: that would be the thing that would be the calling card. 109 00:05:58,560 --> 00:06:02,880 Speaker 1: It's not. It's the it's the quads, it's the doubles. 110 00:06:03,080 --> 00:06:05,720 Speaker 1: And so when we looked at Gordon Sergeant for the week, 111 00:06:06,040 --> 00:06:07,919 Speaker 1: one over for the far three. So he plays the 112 00:06:07,920 --> 00:06:11,800 Speaker 1: par threes in one over, which is pretty much about average. 113 00:06:11,920 --> 00:06:14,239 Speaker 1: And we've talked about this on the pod before, Ryan, 114 00:06:14,600 --> 00:06:17,560 Speaker 1: but I've told this story Jim Herman, who was a 115 00:06:17,600 --> 00:06:21,080 Speaker 1: member here at Floridian. Jim Herman, by his own admission, 116 00:06:21,120 --> 00:06:24,240 Speaker 1: would be in that journeyman kind of mule. He's just 117 00:06:24,520 --> 00:06:26,960 Speaker 1: he is a rank and filed PJ Tour player won 118 00:06:27,160 --> 00:06:30,719 Speaker 1: three or four times one in Houston on a very long, 119 00:06:31,040 --> 00:06:34,080 Speaker 1: big golf course, something that you wouldn't think someone like 120 00:06:34,160 --> 00:06:37,800 Speaker 1: Jim Herman would went on. But there was a kid 121 00:06:37,800 --> 00:06:39,400 Speaker 1: that I was teaching who was getting ready to go 122 00:06:39,480 --> 00:06:43,360 Speaker 1: play college golf Division I college golf at the University 123 00:06:43,400 --> 00:06:47,360 Speaker 1: of Michigan, and I said, hey, give his kid some advice, 124 00:06:48,000 --> 00:06:50,600 Speaker 1: and I'll never forget that. Jim Herman said, hey, play 125 00:06:50,640 --> 00:06:53,120 Speaker 1: the par threes and one over for the week. You'll 126 00:06:53,120 --> 00:06:55,120 Speaker 1: probably have a chance to win. So the guy that 127 00:06:55,160 --> 00:07:01,160 Speaker 1: finished second this week plays the par threes in one over. Right, 128 00:07:01,400 --> 00:07:03,960 Speaker 1: the guy who wins the tournament two shots the leader 129 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:07,800 Speaker 1: two shots back of the leader on par three par threes. Right, 130 00:07:07,880 --> 00:07:11,720 Speaker 1: So you finish under par on the par threes elite 131 00:07:11,960 --> 00:07:14,320 Speaker 1: for the week, you are probably going to have a 132 00:07:14,400 --> 00:07:17,240 Speaker 1: chance to win the golf tournament just because the par 133 00:07:17,360 --> 00:07:18,960 Speaker 1: threes are so difficult. 134 00:07:18,560 --> 00:07:20,440 Speaker 2: So especially here because we have five part three. 135 00:07:20,640 --> 00:07:22,680 Speaker 1: Yes, so we have five par threes. So if you 136 00:07:22,720 --> 00:07:25,880 Speaker 1: can take advantage of that. But if you're over, if 137 00:07:25,920 --> 00:07:29,200 Speaker 1: you're even, if you play the par threes, and I'll 138 00:07:29,280 --> 00:07:32,040 Speaker 1: keep saying this, and I'm sure there's people listening or 139 00:07:32,120 --> 00:07:34,800 Speaker 1: say that. I'll say, heard this before, play the par 140 00:07:34,880 --> 00:07:37,040 Speaker 1: threes and even for the week, the guy wins this 141 00:07:37,160 --> 00:07:42,200 Speaker 1: golf tournament cleans up on the par fives, under par 142 00:07:42,280 --> 00:07:45,240 Speaker 1: on the par threes, four under on the par fives, 143 00:07:45,240 --> 00:07:46,760 Speaker 1: are on the par fours for the week. 144 00:07:47,480 --> 00:07:49,440 Speaker 2: Let the feel by two shots on that stet. 145 00:07:49,520 --> 00:07:53,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, so he's minus four for three rounds on the 146 00:07:53,400 --> 00:07:59,840 Speaker 1: par fours and he wins that stat by almost by 147 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:03,360 Speaker 1: three shots. So it just goes to show you, and 148 00:08:04,680 --> 00:08:06,520 Speaker 1: I think a lot of players are going to be 149 00:08:07,840 --> 00:08:10,280 Speaker 1: under par this week on the par five. 150 00:08:11,440 --> 00:08:14,760 Speaker 2: Almost every I mean, the list is super long here. 151 00:08:15,000 --> 00:08:17,560 Speaker 1: How many players playing there's. 152 00:08:17,360 --> 00:08:20,240 Speaker 2: Probably I'm doing a quick math here. Let's say there's 153 00:08:21,600 --> 00:08:27,480 Speaker 2: eighty players here, maybe a little bit more. Yeah, on 154 00:08:27,560 --> 00:08:31,280 Speaker 2: par five scoring even pars basically bottom half of the 155 00:08:31,320 --> 00:08:32,520 Speaker 2: field plus. 156 00:08:32,360 --> 00:08:38,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, So everybody is going to expect and is taking 157 00:08:39,000 --> 00:08:41,280 Speaker 1: advantage of the part fast. If you're not taking advantage 158 00:08:41,280 --> 00:08:45,360 Speaker 1: of the par fives, regardless of what your handicap is, right, 159 00:08:45,600 --> 00:08:49,000 Speaker 1: So if you aren't making so if you're in that, 160 00:08:49,960 --> 00:08:50,360 Speaker 1: I think the. 161 00:08:50,320 --> 00:08:52,520 Speaker 2: Way you take advantage of the parth right par fives 162 00:08:52,559 --> 00:08:54,800 Speaker 2: is you've still make any mistakes in the par fo yes, 163 00:08:54,840 --> 00:08:57,160 Speaker 2: just don't make bogies on par five if it's too long. 164 00:08:57,559 --> 00:09:00,000 Speaker 2: Do we really need to hit driver if we're automatically 165 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:02,360 Speaker 2: going to lay up and if driver's networking, whatever, if 166 00:09:02,360 --> 00:09:05,120 Speaker 2: the fairways wider at whatever, your three wood distances to 167 00:09:05,280 --> 00:09:08,400 Speaker 2: thirty two forty I about three with off the tea 168 00:09:08,760 --> 00:09:11,960 Speaker 2: five iron, nine irons, something along those instead of maybe 169 00:09:11,960 --> 00:09:17,880 Speaker 2: a driver mistake, three wood mistake dropping from sixty short 170 00:09:17,880 --> 00:09:19,000 Speaker 2: of the water whatever. 171 00:09:19,280 --> 00:09:21,120 Speaker 1: And we've got a stretch here at the Floridian. If 172 00:09:21,480 --> 00:09:23,680 Speaker 1: for those of you that haven't played here, the stretch 173 00:09:23,720 --> 00:09:25,520 Speaker 1: where you really want to take advantage of. Here is 174 00:09:25,559 --> 00:09:28,160 Speaker 1: on our front nine. We have a from from all 175 00:09:28,200 --> 00:09:30,200 Speaker 1: the way back, like a six hundred yard. 176 00:09:30,120 --> 00:09:31,200 Speaker 2: Starting number five years. 177 00:09:31,360 --> 00:09:33,800 Speaker 1: The fifth hole is around a six hundred yard but 178 00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:36,640 Speaker 1: they normally play it a little bit of Yeah, but 179 00:09:36,720 --> 00:09:41,880 Speaker 1: they're playing it over five. Yeah, they're over five fifty. 180 00:09:41,920 --> 00:09:44,840 Speaker 1: It's a par five. Six is a driveable par four, 181 00:09:45,480 --> 00:09:49,600 Speaker 1: and then seven is a gettable depending on the wind, 182 00:09:49,600 --> 00:09:51,280 Speaker 1: but it would be the easiest, should be the easiest. 183 00:09:51,280 --> 00:09:53,920 Speaker 1: It's a par five. So you've got par five drivable, 184 00:09:53,960 --> 00:09:56,920 Speaker 1: par four, par five. That's where you need to make 185 00:09:56,960 --> 00:10:01,160 Speaker 1: your score. That's where you need to kind of pick up. 186 00:10:01,320 --> 00:10:05,520 Speaker 1: So it's always interesting to watch when we have the 187 00:10:05,520 --> 00:10:08,720 Speaker 1: best college players in the country, watch them how they 188 00:10:08,760 --> 00:10:12,120 Speaker 1: play that that three hole stretch, how aggressive they are 189 00:10:12,600 --> 00:10:16,120 Speaker 1: and do they pick up shots? How many shots do 190 00:10:16,160 --> 00:10:19,080 Speaker 1: they pick up? So if you've got an easy stretch 191 00:10:19,120 --> 00:10:22,840 Speaker 1: of your golf course, every golf course has an easy stretch, 192 00:10:22,880 --> 00:10:25,640 Speaker 1: and here at the Floridian, that is the easy stretch. 193 00:10:25,800 --> 00:10:31,280 Speaker 1: Par five, drivable, par four, gettible reachable par five, right, 194 00:10:31,360 --> 00:10:36,120 Speaker 1: so you could conceivably play that in four or five 195 00:10:36,200 --> 00:10:38,880 Speaker 1: under conably. Yet yeah, I mean, you could you could 196 00:10:39,000 --> 00:10:43,680 Speaker 1: go egle eagle eagle, but you're looking to not give 197 00:10:43,720 --> 00:10:46,240 Speaker 1: shots way. So again, we're watching some of the best 198 00:10:46,360 --> 00:10:49,559 Speaker 1: college players in the country, some of the best amateurs 199 00:10:49,559 --> 00:10:53,480 Speaker 1: in the world still make mistakes on gettible holes. 200 00:10:53,600 --> 00:10:55,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's It's really great for because I had 201 00:10:55,920 --> 00:10:57,680 Speaker 2: one of our juniors on a team out there today. 202 00:10:57,720 --> 00:11:00,120 Speaker 2: It's really great for him to see that the these 203 00:11:00,160 --> 00:11:03,600 Speaker 2: guys are human and there we were on seventeen and eighteen. 204 00:11:03,600 --> 00:11:05,800 Speaker 2: That's where I saw our sergeant make make the quad 205 00:11:05,840 --> 00:11:12,840 Speaker 2: on eighteen and seventeen. The seventeenth hole actually played basically 206 00:11:13,120 --> 00:11:15,200 Speaker 2: right in the middle of the pack for the holes 207 00:11:15,480 --> 00:11:19,200 Speaker 2: they played at four point three shots over par and 208 00:11:19,240 --> 00:11:23,280 Speaker 2: it's basically a two twenty shot off the tee, maybe 209 00:11:23,320 --> 00:11:25,320 Speaker 2: into the wind today, so maybe it's playing two fifty 210 00:11:26,160 --> 00:11:28,360 Speaker 2: and then it's a wedge on the grind and where 211 00:11:28,360 --> 00:11:32,400 Speaker 2: the pin was today. I saw at least a three 212 00:11:32,400 --> 00:11:35,520 Speaker 2: plot from every player or what from one player for 213 00:11:35,600 --> 00:11:38,559 Speaker 2: every group that I saw, especially the ones that were the. 214 00:11:38,520 --> 00:11:43,359 Speaker 1: Hole just getting out of position with a pott that's downhill, 215 00:11:43,880 --> 00:11:46,400 Speaker 1: got a lot of speed, it's probably windy. 216 00:11:46,920 --> 00:11:48,080 Speaker 2: It's one of our signature holes. 217 00:11:48,160 --> 00:11:49,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, green's exposed. 218 00:11:50,000 --> 00:11:52,520 Speaker 2: It's exposed to the water. The wind's coming in off 219 00:11:52,520 --> 00:11:55,280 Speaker 2: the water. It's like three separate greens in wand today 220 00:11:55,320 --> 00:11:58,120 Speaker 2: the pinless kind of front right inside the bowl. If 221 00:11:58,200 --> 00:12:00,839 Speaker 2: you if you were out out side of the ball, 222 00:12:01,120 --> 00:12:06,400 Speaker 2: you are pressing five plus eight nine feet to make 223 00:12:06,480 --> 00:12:08,480 Speaker 2: your two button, and a lot of them didn't. 224 00:12:08,559 --> 00:12:13,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, and that is an example of positioning your golf ball. 225 00:12:14,320 --> 00:12:18,160 Speaker 1: So you want to say, as a player, regardless of 226 00:12:18,240 --> 00:12:21,800 Speaker 1: your handicap range, figure out where the pin is. We're 227 00:12:21,800 --> 00:12:25,040 Speaker 1: watching some of the best college golfers. Who who there 228 00:12:25,080 --> 00:12:28,000 Speaker 1: are people playing in this tournament this week, the Vallsbar 229 00:12:28,080 --> 00:12:31,760 Speaker 1: Collegiate Invitational, who will be playing on the FGA Tour 230 00:12:31,920 --> 00:12:33,880 Speaker 1: in the next two to five years. 231 00:12:33,920 --> 00:12:36,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, we have players who've played in the US Open. 232 00:12:36,360 --> 00:12:41,119 Speaker 1: Yeah, we've got players major. Regardless of what your handicap 233 00:12:41,200 --> 00:12:43,960 Speaker 1: range is, take a look at where the pin is 234 00:12:44,000 --> 00:12:47,920 Speaker 1: and say, okay, let me give myself the easiest leave here. 235 00:12:48,400 --> 00:12:51,360 Speaker 1: So let me lead this. If the pin's on a slope, 236 00:12:51,559 --> 00:12:54,559 Speaker 1: say to yourself, okay, let me get this below the hole. 237 00:12:55,120 --> 00:12:58,040 Speaker 1: It's going to be easier twenty five feet below the 238 00:12:58,080 --> 00:13:01,080 Speaker 1: hole than it is going to be to ten feet 239 00:13:01,120 --> 00:13:04,160 Speaker 1: above the hole. Let me look at where the easiest 240 00:13:04,160 --> 00:13:06,240 Speaker 1: putt is. Do I want to be right of the flag? 241 00:13:06,280 --> 00:13:08,200 Speaker 1: Do I want to be left of the flag. But 242 00:13:08,280 --> 00:13:10,840 Speaker 1: I do think it's interesting that when we are watching 243 00:13:10,920 --> 00:13:15,640 Speaker 1: a lot of these really raw college players, is how 244 00:13:15,679 --> 00:13:19,280 Speaker 1: aggressive they all are. How many I mean, I'm watching, 245 00:13:19,559 --> 00:13:21,839 Speaker 1: you know, over the course of today, I went out 246 00:13:21,840 --> 00:13:25,240 Speaker 1: and I drove around and I'm watching college coaches shake 247 00:13:25,280 --> 00:13:29,240 Speaker 1: their heads watching the mistakes that I can't believe. 248 00:13:29,280 --> 00:13:33,000 Speaker 2: The quad that Gordon Sergeant made today, I just can't 249 00:13:33,040 --> 00:13:37,000 Speaker 2: believe it. Water on the left side, number eighteen. It's 250 00:13:37,040 --> 00:13:38,319 Speaker 2: kind of like pebble beach on the eighteen. 251 00:13:39,120 --> 00:13:40,959 Speaker 1: But how far is it? What the planet today? 252 00:13:41,040 --> 00:13:43,160 Speaker 2: We were pretty far back, so maybe four eighty. 253 00:13:43,240 --> 00:13:45,280 Speaker 1: Okay, so it's four eighty. But you've got to figure 254 00:13:45,320 --> 00:13:48,839 Speaker 1: a kid like Gordon Sergeant hits his four iron how 255 00:13:48,880 --> 00:13:52,880 Speaker 1: far to fifty? Yeah, so he doesn't even need to 256 00:13:52,960 --> 00:13:55,559 Speaker 1: hit driver. There, he hits driver, right, he hits driver 257 00:13:55,640 --> 00:13:57,480 Speaker 1: and he starts it over the water. 258 00:13:57,600 --> 00:13:59,200 Speaker 2: He starts it over the water and. 259 00:13:59,120 --> 00:14:02,080 Speaker 1: It basically double crossed. It didn't cut, didn't do anything. 260 00:14:02,080 --> 00:14:04,360 Speaker 2: We're just basically hit it right on a rope, lined 261 00:14:04,440 --> 00:14:06,920 Speaker 2: up right at the edge of the green, right side of. 262 00:14:06,840 --> 00:14:09,360 Speaker 1: The green, thinking probably he was gonna cut a little bit. 263 00:14:09,720 --> 00:14:12,040 Speaker 2: You know, that's probably brown fifteen twenty five out there, 264 00:14:12,160 --> 00:14:13,640 Speaker 2: hit a dead straight right through it. 265 00:14:13,760 --> 00:14:15,480 Speaker 1: And the wind's flowing from left to. 266 00:14:15,480 --> 00:14:17,559 Speaker 2: Right to right, left to right for the player. 267 00:14:17,360 --> 00:14:20,080 Speaker 1: Left to right. So picture this, so standing on the 268 00:14:20,080 --> 00:14:23,200 Speaker 1: eighteenth hole, water all the way down the left hand side, 269 00:14:24,120 --> 00:14:29,200 Speaker 1: wind left to right. So this player, Gordon thinks, Okay, 270 00:14:29,240 --> 00:14:32,880 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna hammer driver down there right the wind's 271 00:14:32,880 --> 00:14:36,480 Speaker 1: gonna push it. I'm gonna have nothing left because he 272 00:14:36,520 --> 00:14:42,320 Speaker 1: can take advantage of his unbelievable length, and again. 273 00:14:42,320 --> 00:14:44,160 Speaker 2: He ends up having to drop maybe one hundred and 274 00:14:44,200 --> 00:14:46,440 Speaker 2: fifty yards off the team. Maybe I didn't see exactly 275 00:14:46,600 --> 00:14:49,960 Speaker 2: where he dropped from. It was close that he could 276 00:14:50,000 --> 00:14:53,280 Speaker 2: barely advance out past the tee. It was. It was 277 00:14:53,280 --> 00:14:56,000 Speaker 2: pretty close. So the players decided, you know, probably one 278 00:14:56,080 --> 00:14:58,520 Speaker 2: hundred and fifty other So he had like three probably 279 00:14:58,640 --> 00:14:59,960 Speaker 2: plus three hundred plus coming in. 280 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:01,040 Speaker 1: So what do you do that next? 281 00:15:01,080 --> 00:15:04,040 Speaker 2: Hits An Iron didn't see the rest of the hole unfold. 282 00:15:04,160 --> 00:15:07,440 Speaker 2: I was back on seventeen waiting for Clinton to come through. 283 00:15:07,520 --> 00:15:11,480 Speaker 2: But whatever the matter is, you just so. 284 00:15:11,480 --> 00:15:13,840 Speaker 1: When you make an eight on a par four that's 285 00:15:14,360 --> 00:15:17,840 Speaker 1: almost five hundred yards, you've got to ask yourself. Okay, 286 00:15:17,840 --> 00:15:21,000 Speaker 1: for a kid like Gordon Sergeant, he could hit five iron. 287 00:15:21,480 --> 00:15:25,000 Speaker 2: We play this game all the time. I mean, look 288 00:15:25,040 --> 00:15:27,440 Speaker 2: at we talked about this in round offence all the time. 289 00:15:27,600 --> 00:15:31,960 Speaker 2: You could literally go five iron, five iron, five iron 290 00:15:32,000 --> 00:15:34,920 Speaker 2: and not even have a putter and maybe two for 291 00:15:35,480 --> 00:15:39,400 Speaker 2: two putt for Bogie in that situation. Whatever. I don't 292 00:15:39,400 --> 00:15:41,920 Speaker 2: know where Vanderbilt I think Vannerbelt finished second. Let me 293 00:15:41,960 --> 00:15:42,600 Speaker 2: bring it up here. 294 00:15:42,720 --> 00:15:43,360 Speaker 1: They finished second. 295 00:15:43,360 --> 00:15:50,520 Speaker 2: As a team, they finished four shots behind Florida. Potentially 296 00:15:50,600 --> 00:15:52,320 Speaker 2: a par there ties the tournament. 297 00:15:52,440 --> 00:15:52,640 Speaker 1: Yeah. 298 00:15:52,840 --> 00:15:54,680 Speaker 2: I don't know how all the other scores unfolded. 299 00:15:54,880 --> 00:15:56,840 Speaker 1: But when you're doing the math like that, he's going 300 00:15:56,880 --> 00:15:59,400 Speaker 1: to look back at this and say, yeah, okay, I 301 00:15:59,480 --> 00:16:02,440 Speaker 1: make there. Maybe we have a chance as a team 302 00:16:02,480 --> 00:16:05,280 Speaker 1: to make to win. There's a lot of other variables, 303 00:16:05,320 --> 00:16:08,720 Speaker 1: but in just doing some simple math, his coaches will 304 00:16:08,760 --> 00:16:11,240 Speaker 1: be saying to him, hey, you make a par there, 305 00:16:11,680 --> 00:16:14,320 Speaker 1: we have a chance to win this tournament potentially. 306 00:16:14,440 --> 00:16:17,560 Speaker 2: Yeah. So Cole Sherwood sixty six. 307 00:16:17,400 --> 00:16:19,880 Speaker 1: Today, Well here's the thing. R See if he does 308 00:16:20,000 --> 00:16:22,080 Speaker 1: make par instead of making an eight on a par four. 309 00:16:22,240 --> 00:16:24,240 Speaker 1: They've got a hell of a lot better chance, yes, 310 00:16:24,480 --> 00:16:26,520 Speaker 1: to have an opportunity to win the golf tournament. Yes, 311 00:16:26,720 --> 00:16:28,360 Speaker 1: than finishing four back and not winning. 312 00:16:28,440 --> 00:16:32,240 Speaker 2: They had the count of sixty six, sixty four, seventy 313 00:16:32,880 --> 00:16:36,400 Speaker 2: and then the fourth score was seventy two. 314 00:16:39,320 --> 00:16:42,520 Speaker 1: Seventeenth hole, Bryan, it's a drivable par four for us 315 00:16:42,520 --> 00:16:43,240 Speaker 1: here at Floridian. 316 00:16:43,280 --> 00:16:44,200 Speaker 2: Great great design. 317 00:16:44,400 --> 00:16:47,680 Speaker 1: How many players were you seeing try and go for 318 00:16:47,760 --> 00:16:48,160 Speaker 1: the green. 319 00:16:48,320 --> 00:16:50,680 Speaker 2: I'd not see anyone go for the green, not even 320 00:16:50,960 --> 00:16:53,280 Speaker 2: Gordon straight into the win today. 321 00:16:53,320 --> 00:16:56,600 Speaker 1: Okay, so there's no real reward and there's no real 322 00:16:56,720 --> 00:17:00,440 Speaker 1: place to hit driver on our seventeenth hole. The winds 323 00:17:00,480 --> 00:17:02,520 Speaker 1: blowing like that, it's into you've got a better chance 324 00:17:02,560 --> 00:17:05,320 Speaker 1: if you take and driver of hitting it into one 325 00:17:05,320 --> 00:17:07,800 Speaker 1: of the bunkers, then you have by just. 326 00:17:08,240 --> 00:17:10,720 Speaker 2: I would say if three is a relatively easy driving 327 00:17:10,720 --> 00:17:13,680 Speaker 2: hole or a driving course except for fourteen and eighteen here, 328 00:17:14,240 --> 00:17:18,520 Speaker 2: and it's sixty yards wide with a foe iron off 329 00:17:18,520 --> 00:17:20,840 Speaker 2: that tee with some of you guys the way they 330 00:17:20,920 --> 00:17:24,840 Speaker 2: hit it sixty yards two bunkers out there, I mean 331 00:17:25,960 --> 00:17:31,359 Speaker 2: it's no layup right. The green is a diabolically creative, 332 00:17:32,200 --> 00:17:34,560 Speaker 2: three greens and one type of green, and where the 333 00:17:34,600 --> 00:17:39,240 Speaker 2: pen today was just diabolical. Today's wind back right front, 334 00:17:39,320 --> 00:17:45,119 Speaker 2: right side the bowl. Yeah, so above the hole. Seven 335 00:17:45,160 --> 00:17:46,959 Speaker 2: eighths of the green is above the hole, and if 336 00:17:47,000 --> 00:17:49,960 Speaker 2: you're above the hole, you're pretty much lucky if you 337 00:17:50,040 --> 00:17:53,760 Speaker 2: make your eight foot or comeback for apart. So a 338 00:17:53,760 --> 00:17:57,200 Speaker 2: great pen placement today. And again I get the stats. 339 00:17:57,720 --> 00:18:01,040 Speaker 2: Played probably the ninth or tenth hardest hole. 340 00:18:02,080 --> 00:18:03,320 Speaker 1: And how far is it. 341 00:18:04,160 --> 00:18:06,480 Speaker 2: I didn't see exactly where they teed it up from today, 342 00:18:06,520 --> 00:18:12,520 Speaker 2: but it's it's three seventy five maybe five. So Brooks 343 00:18:12,560 --> 00:18:15,280 Speaker 2: has done the famous commercial there, done that, so it 344 00:18:15,359 --> 00:18:17,160 Speaker 2: got the gain been on the green from every two 345 00:18:17,160 --> 00:18:20,760 Speaker 2: box there. So it's relatively driveable. It can be done. 346 00:18:20,880 --> 00:18:23,640 Speaker 2: Not today with today's wind. But the greens today were 347 00:18:23,720 --> 00:18:26,600 Speaker 2: just lightning, which is really our main defense the green 348 00:18:26,680 --> 00:18:28,520 Speaker 2: complexes in the chipping and putting. 349 00:18:28,880 --> 00:18:32,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, and so when it does get really really windy, 350 00:18:32,320 --> 00:18:34,560 Speaker 1: the greens are going to get firmer. The greens are 351 00:18:34,560 --> 00:18:39,600 Speaker 1: going to get great today faster. Tell everybody listening, Ryan, 352 00:18:39,960 --> 00:18:42,919 Speaker 1: when you are out there in windy conditions, like we 353 00:18:42,960 --> 00:18:45,920 Speaker 1: saw the college kids today, and we saw them yesterday 354 00:18:45,920 --> 00:18:48,639 Speaker 1: do it was pretty windy. How is that going to 355 00:18:48,720 --> 00:18:51,560 Speaker 1: affect putting? And how is that going to affect short game? 356 00:18:52,640 --> 00:18:56,280 Speaker 2: It definitely affects putting. It may, especially when those greens 357 00:18:56,280 --> 00:18:59,159 Speaker 2: were exposed like seventeen and eighteen, they could add another 358 00:18:59,240 --> 00:19:02,040 Speaker 2: two or three cups depending upon where the grain is 359 00:19:02,040 --> 00:19:05,120 Speaker 2: coming in your angle. So it is a factor for sure, 360 00:19:05,280 --> 00:19:08,600 Speaker 2: especially when it's gusting. It just makes putting really hard 361 00:19:08,600 --> 00:19:09,280 Speaker 2: when it's that windy. 362 00:19:09,480 --> 00:19:12,879 Speaker 1: If you're putting, if it's windy and your downwind, and 363 00:19:12,920 --> 00:19:16,680 Speaker 1: you've got a twenty thirty foot foot putt and you're 364 00:19:16,720 --> 00:19:20,200 Speaker 1: putting down wind, it is going to have an effect. 365 00:19:20,280 --> 00:19:22,520 Speaker 1: It's going to add big it's going to add speed. 366 00:19:22,560 --> 00:19:26,639 Speaker 1: If you're hitting into the breeze, it's going to add speed. 367 00:19:26,720 --> 00:19:29,360 Speaker 1: If you've got puts at or barking left to right, 368 00:19:29,359 --> 00:19:31,240 Speaker 1: if you've got putts that are breaking right to left 369 00:19:31,520 --> 00:19:34,240 Speaker 1: the wind, if you are playing in a very very 370 00:19:34,280 --> 00:19:37,760 Speaker 1: windy conditioned day, you need to take that into account. 371 00:19:37,800 --> 00:19:39,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, a lot of players never think about it. I 372 00:19:39,960 --> 00:19:42,399 Speaker 2: think whether it's uh, the ball is too low to 373 00:19:42,440 --> 00:19:47,560 Speaker 2: the ground, whatever, it makes a big difference, especially at 374 00:19:47,560 --> 00:19:49,120 Speaker 2: the speed of today's greens. 375 00:19:49,520 --> 00:19:51,480 Speaker 1: One of the other things I always love about watching 376 00:19:51,520 --> 00:19:56,040 Speaker 1: all these college kids play is just the sheer, reckless 377 00:19:56,040 --> 00:19:59,640 Speaker 1: abandon that they drive the golf ball with. I mean, 378 00:19:59,640 --> 00:20:04,240 Speaker 1: it's just you just do not see any kids today 379 00:20:05,080 --> 00:20:08,920 Speaker 1: have any driver swings that look like they are trying 380 00:20:08,960 --> 00:20:10,680 Speaker 1: to hit a fair way. 381 00:20:10,840 --> 00:20:13,520 Speaker 2: I would say give some of the kids today some 382 00:20:13,640 --> 00:20:16,280 Speaker 2: credits since it's been a couple hours and eighteen. There 383 00:20:16,280 --> 00:20:19,320 Speaker 2: were a few guys hitting iron off that tea. Yeah, 384 00:20:19,480 --> 00:20:22,240 Speaker 2: fairway woods off that tee. But everybody who did that 385 00:20:22,440 --> 00:20:24,359 Speaker 2: hit kind of the low fairway finder that we always 386 00:20:24,400 --> 00:20:26,199 Speaker 2: preach about. Yeah, just have. 387 00:20:26,359 --> 00:20:28,680 Speaker 1: That low bullet, keep it out of the wind, keep 388 00:20:28,720 --> 00:20:29,800 Speaker 1: it out of the crosswind. 389 00:20:30,119 --> 00:20:32,159 Speaker 2: If I was I should have been keeping stats. But 390 00:20:32,160 --> 00:20:36,280 Speaker 2: everybody who hit driver there just either like sergeant, ride 391 00:20:36,320 --> 00:20:39,840 Speaker 2: the water or way right into the woods into the 392 00:20:39,840 --> 00:20:43,720 Speaker 2: cottages and you're making bogie from there. Yes, at best 393 00:20:44,080 --> 00:20:49,240 Speaker 2: you're struggling. So just these maybe based on the score 394 00:20:49,280 --> 00:20:52,000 Speaker 2: where those guys were playing, I was basically watching them 395 00:20:52,400 --> 00:20:55,920 Speaker 2: the leading groups coming in the smart play there with 396 00:20:56,080 --> 00:20:58,000 Speaker 2: the kids. How far they hit it these days, you 397 00:20:58,200 --> 00:21:01,399 Speaker 2: just banging out there of the bunker, get it in play. 398 00:21:01,960 --> 00:21:05,200 Speaker 2: It's going to be two hundred maybe maxim get on the. 399 00:21:05,160 --> 00:21:07,919 Speaker 1: Front edge of these kids. But just even if you 400 00:21:07,960 --> 00:21:11,719 Speaker 1: just get it up on the front. But I guess 401 00:21:12,080 --> 00:21:18,679 Speaker 1: it's important that everyone listening hear this. There isn't a 402 00:21:18,760 --> 00:21:22,439 Speaker 1: place on the scorecard for you to write anything in 403 00:21:22,480 --> 00:21:24,760 Speaker 1: the box where the score goes other than the score. 404 00:21:24,920 --> 00:21:28,719 Speaker 1: That's why they make it tiny little box. And if 405 00:21:28,760 --> 00:21:32,439 Speaker 1: you make a par, or you make a birdie, or 406 00:21:32,480 --> 00:21:34,760 Speaker 1: you make a bow gear, you make double. There are 407 00:21:34,800 --> 00:21:37,320 Speaker 1: a million different ways you can make a par. There 408 00:21:37,359 --> 00:21:40,920 Speaker 1: are a million different ways you can make a bogie, 409 00:21:41,080 --> 00:21:46,679 Speaker 1: a birdie, a double. So the holes are designed to 410 00:21:46,760 --> 00:21:51,520 Speaker 1: be played a million different ways. You don't always you know, 411 00:21:52,440 --> 00:21:54,680 Speaker 1: it's a tough driving hole of the eighteenth hole. There's 412 00:21:54,720 --> 00:21:57,560 Speaker 1: water all the way down the left hand side, there's 413 00:21:58,359 --> 00:22:00,000 Speaker 1: wind coming from left to right. 414 00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:02,439 Speaker 2: It's a tough we're already on the defense. 415 00:22:02,720 --> 00:22:08,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's already screaming defense, defense, defense, defense, defense, defense. Now, 416 00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:12,840 Speaker 1: if you choose on that hole to play offense and 417 00:22:13,520 --> 00:22:16,719 Speaker 1: rip driver down there you and hit the fairway, you 418 00:22:16,760 --> 00:22:20,760 Speaker 1: are going to be rewarded with a shorter iron shot. 419 00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:24,560 Speaker 1: Then if you take the safe play and say, okay, 420 00:22:24,640 --> 00:22:27,800 Speaker 1: I don't necessarily need to hit driver here, I could 421 00:22:27,880 --> 00:22:30,880 Speaker 1: hit an iron, but if you hit the fairway, you're 422 00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:33,200 Speaker 1: going to be rewarded. If you took an iron off 423 00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:35,639 Speaker 1: a t you're going to be rewarded with hitting an 424 00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:39,800 Speaker 1: iron shot from the fairway. If you hit driver, try 425 00:22:39,840 --> 00:22:42,760 Speaker 1: and be aggressive and don't hit that fairway, you're either 426 00:22:42,840 --> 00:22:45,960 Speaker 1: reteeing from the t box because you've rinsed it in 427 00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:50,320 Speaker 1: the water, or the eighteenth hole at the Floridian. If 428 00:22:50,359 --> 00:22:53,840 Speaker 1: you missed the fairway to the right, it's finable. It's finable, 429 00:22:53,880 --> 00:22:58,000 Speaker 1: but it's you're behind houses, you're in trees, you've got 430 00:22:58,040 --> 00:23:02,080 Speaker 1: sandy lies. So that's the reward you're going to hit. 431 00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:05,520 Speaker 1: So or get for trying to be aggressive off the 432 00:23:05,560 --> 00:23:08,800 Speaker 1: tee and if you don't pull it off. So there's 433 00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:13,520 Speaker 1: always that risk reward. Everyone thinks risk reward is going 434 00:23:13,560 --> 00:23:16,440 Speaker 1: for a driveable par four. That is not risk reward. 435 00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:21,240 Speaker 1: Risk reward is I have a very difficult hole. It's 436 00:23:21,720 --> 00:23:26,679 Speaker 1: got trouble all over the place. Let me just try 437 00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:28,280 Speaker 1: and make a par well. 438 00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:30,639 Speaker 2: Let me give you this stat for eighteen. So the 439 00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:33,680 Speaker 2: hardest hold for the tournament this year usually it's between 440 00:23:34,280 --> 00:23:38,520 Speaker 2: nine eleven eighteen. The field's going over are just four 441 00:23:38,560 --> 00:23:39,880 Speaker 2: point seven to two. 442 00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:42,800 Speaker 1: On which hole eighteen four point seven to two. 443 00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:44,800 Speaker 2: There were nine birdies made. 444 00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:48,440 Speaker 1: There for fifty four holes. 445 00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:53,280 Speaker 2: The best players in college go soies. 446 00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:54,120 Speaker 1: Nine thirties on a par four. 447 00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:57,560 Speaker 2: For the tournament. There is no reward in eighteen other 448 00:23:57,600 --> 00:23:59,840 Speaker 2: than par or even bogie in some cases. 449 00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:02,800 Speaker 1: It's the type of hole to where over the course 450 00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:05,960 Speaker 1: of the of the course of the three days, you're 451 00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:12,119 Speaker 1: saying to yourself, Okay, if I play this hole for 452 00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:17,560 Speaker 1: the three rounds one over, you're picking up, picking up 453 00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:22,400 Speaker 1: massively shots against the field. Right, So, risk reward is 454 00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:23,680 Speaker 1: not always. 455 00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:25,160 Speaker 2: A percentage play. 456 00:24:25,320 --> 00:24:27,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's okay. This is a hard hole. I'm trying 457 00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:29,680 Speaker 1: to find a way to describe it because in my head, 458 00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:33,280 Speaker 1: I'm going, okay, risk reward is okay. There are just 459 00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:36,639 Speaker 1: some holes you know, at your course, at your home course, 460 00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:37,680 Speaker 1: where you play all the time. 461 00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:40,000 Speaker 2: Listen, there's no reward on this whole. 462 00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:42,359 Speaker 1: There's no reward on this hole, and it comes at 463 00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:44,919 Speaker 1: a time to where this is kind of a difficult 464 00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:49,840 Speaker 1: stretch in the golf course as well. So for everyone listening, 465 00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:53,840 Speaker 1: look at that stretch, or look at the stretches at 466 00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:57,080 Speaker 1: your home course. It's you find difficult, right, because there 467 00:24:57,080 --> 00:25:00,600 Speaker 1: are just going to be holes and stretches to too. 468 00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:02,520 Speaker 1: I think most people have that kind of two to 469 00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:05,240 Speaker 1: four hole stretch where you're just like, man, I never 470 00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:07,720 Speaker 1: play these holes good. There are a lot of tough 471 00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:11,000 Speaker 1: driving holes in this stretch. There may be long it's 472 00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:13,920 Speaker 1: tough part four wherever it is, but you are going 473 00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:17,280 Speaker 1: to have that tough stretch, which we have here at 474 00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:21,080 Speaker 1: the Floridian. But we started off talking about the easy 475 00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:24,399 Speaker 1: stretch here, so you're trying to take advantage of the 476 00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:27,840 Speaker 1: easy stretch, but you're also looking at the hard holes 477 00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:30,200 Speaker 1: and saying, Okay, if I can just play these hard 478 00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:33,240 Speaker 1: holes in flat, you know, just play them in even 479 00:25:33,280 --> 00:25:36,920 Speaker 1: par for the week, play them even par today, play 480 00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:40,560 Speaker 1: the par threes. You know. Jonathan Dismok, who's the head 481 00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:43,919 Speaker 1: coach at the University of Houston their golf team, one 482 00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:46,840 Speaker 1: of the hosts here, Diz asked me to talk to 483 00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:49,520 Speaker 1: the entire team the other day. I think there were 484 00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:51,720 Speaker 1: seven or eight of the guys here from the University 485 00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:53,800 Speaker 1: of Houston, and I said that to him. I'm like, 486 00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:56,560 Speaker 1: you would expect someone like me, who works with the 487 00:25:56,560 --> 00:25:58,440 Speaker 1: players I work with, to give you all sorts of 488 00:25:58,480 --> 00:26:01,360 Speaker 1: swing advice about your golf swing, that about your technique, 489 00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:04,560 Speaker 1: and I just was pounding guys and just don't even 490 00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:06,240 Speaker 1: aim at the flag on the par three. Just play 491 00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:10,520 Speaker 1: them even for the week. Yeah. Just round defense is 492 00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:14,000 Speaker 1: something that we do with our juniors. Are our players 493 00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:18,159 Speaker 1: that we have in this called team flow, and we 494 00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:20,800 Speaker 1: put you up in front of your your peers. We 495 00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:23,840 Speaker 1: put you, we put your scorecard up on the board, 496 00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:26,560 Speaker 1: and then normally we've got a computer and or another 497 00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:28,800 Speaker 1: TV and if you've made a big number on a hole, 498 00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:36,560 Speaker 1: we put your screen cast on. All right, here's your number. 499 00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:39,320 Speaker 1: This is a screen cast of what the whole looks 500 00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:41,600 Speaker 1: like from you can go online and look at that 501 00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:45,360 Speaker 1: and say, all right, so Gordon, sergeant, talk us through 502 00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:49,240 Speaker 1: the eight. Talk us through why you made the decision 503 00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:51,840 Speaker 1: to choose driver. I mean that's the first question i'd 504 00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:56,119 Speaker 1: ask'd say, Okay, Gordon, obviously, with your length, you know, 505 00:26:56,440 --> 00:27:00,439 Speaker 1: and the way you drive the golf ball, it's a massive, 506 00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:03,840 Speaker 1: massive strength of yours. But did it ever enter into 507 00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:05,600 Speaker 1: your mind you just made eight on a part four. 508 00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:08,359 Speaker 1: Did it ever enter your mind to not hit driver? 509 00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:14,520 Speaker 1: Or was the hand on the head cover immediately well, here's. 510 00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:18,320 Speaker 2: An example of the thoughts we always hear. I checked 511 00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:19,960 Speaker 2: out after that whole Yeah. 512 00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:24,920 Speaker 1: I can I knew it. Here's my favorite, Stanning. We've 513 00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:26,800 Speaker 1: heard this from players. Stand on a part four May 514 00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:29,280 Speaker 1: and eight. I mean I knew Driver wasn't the play. 515 00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:31,439 Speaker 1: I mean, that's my favorite. When you, as the player 516 00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:34,480 Speaker 1: say I knew Driver wasn't the play, or I knew 517 00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:38,200 Speaker 1: it was the wrong play. When if in your head, 518 00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:42,200 Speaker 1: when you're driving home and you're analyzing your rounds and 519 00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:44,879 Speaker 1: you're looking at yourself in the mirror and you're going 520 00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:47,120 Speaker 1: through the shots that you played, but you're going through 521 00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:49,679 Speaker 1: the hiccups that you had, if in your head you 522 00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:51,879 Speaker 1: were saying to yourself, I knew it was the wrong play. 523 00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:54,520 Speaker 1: I knew what was the wrong shot, I knew it 524 00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:55,560 Speaker 1: was the wrong club. 525 00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:58,080 Speaker 2: Then why you can't need to do it? 526 00:27:58,160 --> 00:28:02,160 Speaker 1: You can change that, yes, just through your thought process. 527 00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:05,240 Speaker 2: And I know we're picking on Gordon, sergeant, but no. 528 00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:07,360 Speaker 1: We're picking on Gordon start. We're not picking on. 529 00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:10,439 Speaker 2: A perfect example. This is this is the perfect example. 530 00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:15,440 Speaker 1: This is not attacking him personally as a player. This 531 00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:19,520 Speaker 1: is us looking at his choice on a par four 532 00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:24,720 Speaker 1: as professionally and saying, Okay, he's one of the best 533 00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:27,560 Speaker 1: players in the world right now, and so I want 534 00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:29,440 Speaker 1: to know why one of the best players in the world, 535 00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:31,719 Speaker 1: who's one of the longest drivers in the world is 536 00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:33,920 Speaker 1: making an eight on a par four. I just want 537 00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:34,400 Speaker 1: to hear what. 538 00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:36,680 Speaker 2: The thought process is exactly. I see that from a. 539 00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:39,520 Speaker 1: Professional standpoint, talk me through what you're thinking here. 540 00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:41,560 Speaker 2: Now that I got his card up, he started on 541 00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:48,240 Speaker 2: two today, he was plus one after after nine he 542 00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:51,080 Speaker 2: actually bogeats number five a par five. 543 00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:52,880 Speaker 1: So Boge's par five, yeap. 544 00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:57,400 Speaker 2: But so he basically started on two, so his finishing 545 00:28:57,440 --> 00:29:01,280 Speaker 2: calls were eighteen and one. 546 00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:02,400 Speaker 1: One's a tough hole. 547 00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:07,320 Speaker 2: It's a tough hole. He goes quad double, he goes 548 00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:08,920 Speaker 2: six over his last two. 549 00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:11,040 Speaker 1: So his last two holes he six over in his 550 00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:15,000 Speaker 1: last two holes. And again from a professional standpoint, everyone, 551 00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:18,200 Speaker 1: this kid will be playing on the PGA Tour in 552 00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:22,560 Speaker 1: the next two years. He will, in my opinion, have 553 00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:27,040 Speaker 1: legit opportunities in the first six months of his professional 554 00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:30,760 Speaker 1: career to win on the PGA Tour. The kid is 555 00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:35,240 Speaker 1: an absolute stud. But my point behind picking. 556 00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:37,640 Speaker 2: On literally just throwing shots. 557 00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:42,440 Speaker 1: Throwing shots away, and this is not a college player 558 00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:46,640 Speaker 1: that everyone listening will never have an opportunity to see play. 559 00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:48,800 Speaker 2: This is an NBA champions. 560 00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:51,640 Speaker 1: You will see him playing in majors. You will see 561 00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:56,640 Speaker 1: him playing in the NC Double A Championships. I mean, 562 00:29:56,920 --> 00:30:01,040 Speaker 1: the kid is a stud. But good pl players with 563 00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:03,480 Speaker 1: all the talent in the world, with all the clubhead 564 00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:08,880 Speaker 1: speed and ball speed in the world, to go quad double, 565 00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:15,440 Speaker 1: they still do it. That is still decision making. That Yeah, 566 00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:19,160 Speaker 1: and again, I've talked about this a zillion times. Gordon 567 00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:21,240 Speaker 1: Sergeant's golf swing, He's trying to make it better. I 568 00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:24,880 Speaker 1: think Gordon's working with Mark Blackburn, who's easily right now, 569 00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:28,520 Speaker 1: the hottest golf instructor on the planet Earth, working with 570 00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:32,200 Speaker 1: the best players on the planet Earth. Right, So he's 571 00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:36,160 Speaker 1: trying to do the right things and make the improvements 572 00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:40,120 Speaker 1: with one of the best coaches instructors in the world. Right. 573 00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:44,800 Speaker 1: He couldn't have any more things going for him than 574 00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:48,200 Speaker 1: he does. And he's a Ferrari on top of that. Right, 575 00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:52,320 Speaker 1: If this is Formula one, he is driving a Ferrari. 576 00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:55,560 Speaker 1: He is driving a red bull. I say he is 577 00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:58,360 Speaker 1: not one of the back of the packs. His car 578 00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:01,840 Speaker 1: is so fast. He's one of the fastest cars in 579 00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:07,200 Speaker 1: the world. But there is still an element of the 580 00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:10,000 Speaker 1: decision making proct and it's not picking on him. He 581 00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:10,920 Speaker 1: could be any. 582 00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:12,480 Speaker 2: Golfers representing a lot of the golf. 583 00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:15,640 Speaker 1: He's representing a large group of golfers. But the reason 584 00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:18,880 Speaker 1: why I wanted us to talk about him today is 585 00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:22,560 Speaker 1: he is a college amateur golfer that you will see 586 00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:26,520 Speaker 1: play on TV. They will be talking about how far 587 00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:28,880 Speaker 1: he drives the golf ball. They will be talking about 588 00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:33,680 Speaker 1: his clubhead speed and ball speed. That being more than Rory, 589 00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:37,640 Speaker 1: more than DJ more than John Rahm. Right, but he's 590 00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:40,240 Speaker 1: still learning. He's still learning how to play. He has 591 00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:43,080 Speaker 1: all the talent in the world. He has all the firepower, 592 00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:47,840 Speaker 1: but he's still like everybody makes big numbers and if 593 00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:51,080 Speaker 1: you can clean that shit up, it makes a huge difference. 594 00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:57,360 Speaker 2: I mean, talk about Luke Clanton. He Bog's eighteen. I 595 00:31:57,560 --> 00:32:01,720 Speaker 2: saw his T shirt there, Bogie, you didn't need to 596 00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:05,120 Speaker 2: make horror birdie to win. He won by five. 597 00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:09,480 Speaker 1: And listen on a difficult hole when you are going 598 00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:14,680 Speaker 1: to that hole with probably a three to five shot lead. 599 00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:19,600 Speaker 1: That's a great example to where in his head he's saying, okay, 600 00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:24,880 Speaker 1: par now is I make is five? Five is making 601 00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:31,200 Speaker 1: par on this hole under these conditions, On a difficult 602 00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:35,760 Speaker 1: hole like this, the field is thinking, okay, bogie is. 603 00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:41,880 Speaker 2: Par yep, exactly right, exactly even for these guys. 604 00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:48,960 Speaker 1: For all of you on your home course, look at 605 00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:54,720 Speaker 1: the course strategy, look at the hard stretches, look at 606 00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:58,560 Speaker 1: the easy stretches, Look at where that those kind of 607 00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:02,440 Speaker 1: easy bird these easy pars are going to be. And 608 00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:05,600 Speaker 1: then through those tough holes, maybe you go to the 609 00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:08,920 Speaker 1: mindset of saying, okay, this is always one of, if 610 00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:11,720 Speaker 1: not the hardest hole on this golf course. Maybe my 611 00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:16,680 Speaker 1: POW is not what it says on the scorecard. Maybe 612 00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:19,479 Speaker 1: my par on a tough par four is okay. If 613 00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:22,320 Speaker 1: I can make bogie, here's a that's a win for 614 00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:25,560 Speaker 1: me on a difficult par four. Listen, I get out 615 00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:26,280 Speaker 1: of here with five. 616 00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:31,640 Speaker 2: I'm laughing, you're laughing, You're and we talk about it 617 00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:34,400 Speaker 2: in around the fence. A lot of football analogies. You know, 618 00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:37,360 Speaker 2: the Patriots are great with Tom Brady back in the day. 619 00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:40,960 Speaker 2: They took what the defense gave him in the four 620 00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:43,440 Speaker 2: minute drill of the two minute drill, and a lot 621 00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:47,120 Speaker 2: of golfers don't take take what the course is giving 622 00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:49,200 Speaker 2: has given you. You were trying to hit the home run, 623 00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:51,360 Speaker 2: you're trying to throw the eighty yard out. 624 00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:57,360 Speaker 1: You're trying to do something spectacular where kind of boring, boring, 625 00:33:57,840 --> 00:34:01,840 Speaker 1: boring golf gets it done a lot of times and 626 00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:07,000 Speaker 1: just a lot of pars. Make the odd more, make 627 00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:10,759 Speaker 1: one more bogie around Brooks. And again I've said this 628 00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:13,040 Speaker 1: a million times. Brooks has always said that he is 629 00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:20,560 Speaker 1: willing to sacrifice a birdie by giving up making a bogie. 630 00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:25,240 Speaker 1: So the choice between birdie versus bogie, He's like, listen, 631 00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:30,200 Speaker 1: I'll give up a birdie if I cannot make a bogie. 632 00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:34,400 Speaker 2: Yep, he'll name that way. You'll name that way, especially 633 00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:36,440 Speaker 2: at the majors. Then this is so penal. 634 00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:41,000 Speaker 1: So every time, I'd say, for the majority of the people, 635 00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:44,880 Speaker 1: for ninety nine percent of the people listening to this podcast, 636 00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:50,400 Speaker 1: their weekly round of golf is their major relative to 637 00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:53,640 Speaker 1: their skill level, the golf course is tough for them. 638 00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:57,320 Speaker 1: Their home golf. I can't imagine the majority of the 639 00:34:57,360 --> 00:34:59,560 Speaker 1: people listen to this podcast are gonna tell me their 640 00:34:59,560 --> 00:35:02,799 Speaker 1: their home the course is easy, right, Oh yeah, my 641 00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:05,399 Speaker 1: home course is a really easy golf course. I would 642 00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:10,280 Speaker 1: say for the majority of people playing golf, whatever course 643 00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:13,840 Speaker 1: they're playing is basically like a major. The rough is 644 00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:16,239 Speaker 1: tough for them. Driving it is tough for them. The 645 00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:19,279 Speaker 1: green complexes are tough for them. The misses short game 646 00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:21,320 Speaker 1: are tough for them. There are a lot of penalty 647 00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:24,879 Speaker 1: shots relative to their talent level. So my point being 648 00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:30,960 Speaker 1: getting the ball in play, thinking about it logically, and 649 00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:36,520 Speaker 1: not always take your version of what the course is 650 00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:40,839 Speaker 1: giving you. Don't let the architect dictate to you what 651 00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:42,920 Speaker 1: you have to do on the golf course. Correct You 652 00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:45,520 Speaker 1: dictate to the golf course what you're going to do 653 00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:47,160 Speaker 1: based off your skill. 654 00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:49,120 Speaker 2: Level, except what you have for the day. If I'm 655 00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:50,920 Speaker 2: not in my driver, I'm going to go to my 656 00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:55,600 Speaker 2: through wood, all right, bring or accept and bring that 657 00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:58,799 Speaker 2: to the course and see what happens. Some of your 658 00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:03,359 Speaker 2: best rounds are almost forgettable because you had no drama, right, 659 00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:06,080 Speaker 2: Some of the rounds with your friends that seem like 660 00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:08,160 Speaker 2: they did nothing out there and they came home at 661 00:36:08,239 --> 00:36:10,920 Speaker 2: three under because there is no drama. Its boring. 662 00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:18,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, And the opposite happens on tour. You will you 663 00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:20,399 Speaker 1: will talk to tour players that will play with young 664 00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:23,200 Speaker 1: players and they were like, Oh, I didn't even add 665 00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:25,680 Speaker 1: up when he shot today because he was all over 666 00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:29,160 Speaker 1: the place, right, And I looked and I couldn't believe 667 00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:34,640 Speaker 1: that he shot under par. Or someone will shoot sixty 668 00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:37,640 Speaker 1: six and the guy keeping his card will go. Man, 669 00:36:37,640 --> 00:36:41,239 Speaker 1: I thought the guy was going to shoot sixty today, right. 670 00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:46,720 Speaker 1: But the golf course is there for you to play 671 00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:50,799 Speaker 1: it the way you see fit, in the way it 672 00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:52,400 Speaker 1: works around your game. 673 00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:58,200 Speaker 2: Yes, yes, don't let the course dictate your reactions, your 674 00:36:58,200 --> 00:37:04,200 Speaker 2: emotions except what you have. Make the outlet pass, lay 675 00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:04,760 Speaker 2: it up. 676 00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:08,440 Speaker 1: The easy play you've been easy? Yeah, crazy. I mean 677 00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:10,239 Speaker 1: it's always like I said at the beginning, it's always 678 00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:11,719 Speaker 1: a fun time of the year. And I think the 679 00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:14,120 Speaker 1: great thing for us over the last decade is we 680 00:37:14,200 --> 00:37:16,040 Speaker 1: have seen a lot of these young players or he 681 00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:18,960 Speaker 1: come in in their infancy. I mean Victor Hovlin. I 682 00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:20,360 Speaker 1: mean we've talked to him about that. I mean the 683 00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:22,480 Speaker 1: fact that he is a member at this club now 684 00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:26,080 Speaker 1: and we watched him plays as a college. 685 00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:27,440 Speaker 2: We probably played three times, yes. 686 00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:31,480 Speaker 1: So we probably saw him sophomore, junior, senior year. And 687 00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:35,719 Speaker 1: to see where his game is gone. And we have 688 00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:38,600 Speaker 1: seen a lot of players that are playing here in 689 00:37:38,640 --> 00:37:41,480 Speaker 1: this over the last ten years go on and play 690 00:37:41,719 --> 00:37:42,600 Speaker 1: all over the world. 691 00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:46,920 Speaker 2: Clann has punched his ticket to the Ballast Bar next year. 692 00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:49,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, so you'll be able to watch him, you know, 693 00:37:49,719 --> 00:37:52,839 Speaker 1: play a PGA Tour event. But I know you love 694 00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:55,839 Speaker 1: this week and it really is kind of a microcosm 695 00:37:55,880 --> 00:38:00,440 Speaker 1: of what kind of golf, but competitive golf is. All 696 00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:03,319 Speaker 1: of these players have tremendous firepower. R see, they all 697 00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:06,360 Speaker 1: have tremendous skill. That's why they're playing Division one college 698 00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:09,960 Speaker 1: golf for some very very big, big programs, for some 699 00:38:10,040 --> 00:38:13,279 Speaker 1: big teams with some big coaches. A lot of the 700 00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:16,000 Speaker 1: players playing here this week are playing for coaches that 701 00:38:16,040 --> 00:38:19,040 Speaker 1: have coach players that have won national championships, that have 702 00:38:19,080 --> 00:38:25,000 Speaker 1: won NCUBLEA, individuals that have won US ams, that have 703 00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:28,239 Speaker 1: won British Ams. But they still make mistakes and they 704 00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:30,280 Speaker 1: still are learning their craft. 705 00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:35,760 Speaker 2: Yep. So mistakes that they make maybe maybe magnify today 706 00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:40,000 Speaker 2: just because we have these expectations that they're so good, 707 00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:43,759 Speaker 2: but they're simply making the same mistakes that everybody else makes. Yeah, 708 00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:46,759 Speaker 2: So they are actually human and it was good for 709 00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:48,160 Speaker 2: our juniors to kind of see that. 710 00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:50,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, And one of the things that I think it 711 00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:54,680 Speaker 1: is important. I was listening to the High Performance podcast. 712 00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:57,480 Speaker 1: Gordon Ramsey was on it, the famous Scottish chef, and 713 00:38:58,680 --> 00:39:02,960 Speaker 1: he said something, and I've talked about this, but this 714 00:39:03,160 --> 00:39:05,279 Speaker 1: deep dive that we kind of took in about you know, 715 00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:08,040 Speaker 1: Gordon sergent, it's not a personal attack on them. It's 716 00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:12,960 Speaker 1: a professional question, right, It's a professional question to look 717 00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:16,120 Speaker 1: at a player like that. So when your coaches or 718 00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:19,080 Speaker 1: when someone says something to them, you know, you don't 719 00:39:19,080 --> 00:39:22,520 Speaker 1: always have to take it personally. You can take it professionally. 720 00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:26,640 Speaker 1: You can take it situational to where someone's saying, hey, listen, 721 00:39:27,080 --> 00:39:29,120 Speaker 1: I just want to know the thought process behind the 722 00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:31,200 Speaker 1: eight that you made on a par four that you 723 00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:35,080 Speaker 1: could easily make bogie on. And I think it is 724 00:39:35,160 --> 00:39:39,400 Speaker 1: interesting for us as coaches watching all of these, you know, 725 00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:44,200 Speaker 1: enormously talented young players come through here every year. It's 726 00:39:44,239 --> 00:39:46,160 Speaker 1: so much fun for us to watch the way they 727 00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:49,000 Speaker 1: play our home course and to see the scores that 728 00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:51,399 Speaker 1: they shoot around the course that we play all the time. 729 00:39:51,680 --> 00:39:56,719 Speaker 2: Yep, I wish you played it all the time. We 730 00:39:56,800 --> 00:39:59,799 Speaker 2: haven't played it more than once in the past three years. 731 00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:04,360 Speaker 1: Out the Glamorous life of the Golf Business RC, thanks 732 00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:05,920 Speaker 1: for doing that. I thought it was I thought it 733 00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:08,520 Speaker 1: was an important one to talk to. You know, it's 734 00:40:08,560 --> 00:40:10,680 Speaker 1: easy to look at all the things that players are 735 00:40:10,719 --> 00:40:14,040 Speaker 1: doing well, but I do think sometimes you can take 736 00:40:14,040 --> 00:40:15,799 Speaker 1: a look at some of the things that players do 737 00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:20,960 Speaker 1: poorly and say, okay, yeah, that's where I can reflect 738 00:40:21,120 --> 00:40:23,440 Speaker 1: my game. You're not going to go out if you're 739 00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:25,319 Speaker 1: a fifteen to twenty five handicap, You're not going to 740 00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:28,960 Speaker 1: shoot sixty six. So watching the PGA Tour is very, 741 00:40:29,080 --> 00:40:32,040 Speaker 1: very skewed because it's not really going to help you 742 00:40:32,560 --> 00:40:35,320 Speaker 1: learn anything. I think if everybody that was a fifteen 743 00:40:35,360 --> 00:40:38,520 Speaker 1: to twenty five handicapper could have come and watched this 744 00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:42,400 Speaker 1: college tournament today, you would see players that are infinitely 745 00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:45,360 Speaker 1: more talented than you making kind of some of the 746 00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:51,319 Speaker 1: same mistakes you're making mentally or course management wise as 747 00:40:51,840 --> 00:40:54,480 Speaker 1: you're making. If you're a fifteen to twenty five handicap. 748 00:40:54,120 --> 00:40:56,920 Speaker 2: Yep, you know, we say, you know player with gratitude. 749 00:40:57,719 --> 00:41:00,399 Speaker 2: You get eighteen holes of gratitude out there right, talk 750 00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:04,120 Speaker 2: about protecting your ball, talk about playing responsibly just to 751 00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:08,520 Speaker 2: minimize all the drama of the mistakes, and. 752 00:41:08,680 --> 00:41:11,359 Speaker 1: A great game that we play last one. That'll throw 753 00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:14,520 Speaker 1: out everybody. A great game that we play with everyone here. 754 00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:17,759 Speaker 1: We get all our juniors and our members that are 755 00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:19,360 Speaker 1: on team flow, we get them together in one of 756 00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:22,800 Speaker 1: the days is who can play the most amount of 757 00:41:22,840 --> 00:41:27,160 Speaker 1: holes with one ball. If you hit one out of bounds, 758 00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:29,400 Speaker 1: or you hit one in the water, or you lose 759 00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:33,080 Speaker 1: one walking home, you're done. You get to watch. So 760 00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:35,520 Speaker 1: next time you go out and play, go play nine 761 00:41:35,560 --> 00:41:39,240 Speaker 1: holes late and just say, Okay, I'm going to defend 762 00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:42,080 Speaker 1: my ball today, whatever I have to do. I am 763 00:41:42,120 --> 00:41:46,360 Speaker 1: going to try and play nine holes with the ball 764 00:41:46,400 --> 00:41:49,120 Speaker 1: that I started with on the first tack. So if 765 00:41:49,120 --> 00:41:52,360 Speaker 1: you hit it into trouble, you've got to protect your ball. 766 00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:55,920 Speaker 1: Protecting your ball is the most important thing. So if 767 00:41:55,920 --> 00:41:58,840 Speaker 1: there's water, there's out of bounds, if there's places you 768 00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:01,719 Speaker 1: could lose your ball, you have to make the decision 769 00:42:02,600 --> 00:42:06,360 Speaker 1: to protect your ball so that you don't lose it. 770 00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:09,399 Speaker 1: Don't lose your ball. Protect your ball. 771 00:42:09,800 --> 00:42:13,200 Speaker 2: That's it, man, that's it. Play responsibly, Play responsibly. 772 00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:16,560 Speaker 1: All right, Arci, thanks for talking to us Sonova, Butch 773 00:42:16,600 --> 00:42:18,799 Speaker 1: comes to you every Wednesday. We will see you all 774 00:42:18,840 --> 00:42:22,400 Speaker 1: next week. Rate review, subscribe wherever you get your podcast. 775 00:42:22,880 --> 00:42:24,000 Speaker 1: Thanks everyone for listening.