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Speaker 1: Welcome into the Lounge presented by DraftKings. I'm Ryan Mink

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Speaker 1: here with Garrett Downing, and we are going to break

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Speaker 1: down the Ravens game against the Denver Broncos Sunday at

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Speaker 1: M and T Banks Stadium, a matchup of two teams

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Speaker 1: both sitting at five and three in the thick of

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Speaker 1: the AFC playoff hunt.

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Speaker 2: Yes, the hunt starts at mid mid season.

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Speaker 3: I think the hunt begins week one almost it is underway,

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Speaker 3: and the Broncos are a team that's in the mix now,

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Speaker 3: like they're fighting for one of those playoff positions. And

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Speaker 3: I don't think at the start of the season, when

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Speaker 3: you look at this game, you're like, oh man, this

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Speaker 3: is going to be a really important game from a

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Speaker 3: AFC seeding, a wildcard standpoint, just based on how the

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Speaker 3: Broncos played last year. But now it is same record

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Speaker 3: and both these teams, So I think when you're looking

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Speaker 3: at it at the end of the season, you're going

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Speaker 3: to be looking at this game as an important one

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Speaker 3: in deciding the fate of both of these teams from

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Speaker 3: a playoff standpoint.

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Speaker 1: Yep, the Broncos have won five of their last six games.

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Speaker 1: The raven obviously coming off the loss to the Cleveland Browns.

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Speaker 3: They still have one five at their last six, though

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Speaker 3: both teams have won five in their last six.

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Speaker 1: That's that's been a good point. That's an excellent point. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean they both started ohing two. Yeah, and so

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Speaker 1: two teams playing good football and so, Garrett, I mean

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Speaker 1: I said it last week. I said that Browns game

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Speaker 1: was going to be tougher than people realized. It was

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Speaker 1: going to be closer. It was a little too close

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Speaker 1: and than the opposite direction, opposite result than I thought.

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Speaker 1: But I'll say it again. I think this is going

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Speaker 1: to be a tightly contested game here in Baltimore. I

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Speaker 1: do think that the Ravens are they They're they're hungry

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Speaker 1: coming off a loss, They're stinging a little bit, and

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Speaker 1: generally speaking, just the vibes right when we talk about

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Speaker 1: the vibes, I generally feel like a Ravens team that's

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Speaker 1: gotten punched in the gut, usually, especially when you're coming

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Speaker 1: back home, they respond pretty darn well in front of

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Speaker 1: their home fans.

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Speaker 3: I agree with that, and I think that whenever you

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Speaker 3: lose a game. Look when the Ravens have three laws

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Speaker 3: this year, two of them have come against two teams

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Speaker 3: that are in the bottom of the league from a

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Speaker 3: standings standpoint, and so when you lose those games, the

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Speaker 3: sky is falling and you feel that, and everybody, especially externally,

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Speaker 3: takes on that mindset. And social media is rough, and

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Speaker 3: the talk radio is rough, and the podcast are rough,

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Speaker 3: and it's and that's the dialogue on the conversation around

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Speaker 3: the team this week.

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Speaker 4: I don't I don't, honestly feel.

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Speaker 3: Like the belief that this team has in itself has

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Speaker 3: been shaken by the result of that game against the Browns.

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Speaker 3: And it feels very similar to what we were feeling

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Speaker 3: back in week going into week three after the loss

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Speaker 3: to the Raiders and some of the same topics and

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Speaker 3: conversations like it just rinse and repeat, and then the

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Speaker 3: Ravens rattled off five straight games.

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Speaker 4: So could they do that again?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: I think they could do that again.

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Speaker 2: Like that.

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Speaker 1: That's a point that I wanted to make, is are

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Speaker 1: the Ravens still one of the best teams in the league?

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Speaker 1: Abs so freaking lutely, absolutely, they are right. And the

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Speaker 1: happen with all the dropped interceptions, and all that, and

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Speaker 1: do the Ravens still have issues that they need to

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Speaker 1: clean up. Absolutely right, This past defense has to get better.

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Speaker 1: They have to figure that out. Like I said after

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Speaker 1: that game, like you're not gonna go to You're not

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Speaker 1: gonna win the Super Bowl if your back pass defense

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Speaker 1: is playing like this, it has to get better. And

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Speaker 1: so but I still believe. You know, a week ago,

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Speaker 1: we were all sitting here calling the Ravens offense unstoppable,

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Speaker 1: one of the best, you know, maybe the best in

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Speaker 1: remains unchanged for me. In fact, it got better Deontay Johnson,

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Speaker 1: I think, And so you know, it's on the defensive

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Speaker 1: Ravens are going to figure this out defensively.

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Speaker 2: I just I still have that belief.

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Speaker 1: And I know, like every week that passes by when

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Speaker 1: they don't right, you lose to Jameis Winston, a backup

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Speaker 1: That doesn't give you confidence that they're going to figure

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Speaker 1: this game I think will play a big role in

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Speaker 1: how good we think this defense can ultimately become, because

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Speaker 1: if they don't bounce back against bow Knicks in an

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Speaker 1: it's gonna raise even more red flags around Baltimore.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I think there's some parallels and from

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Speaker 3: from this year and last year. And if just because

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Speaker 3: something happened last year doesn't mean it's going to happen

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Speaker 3: this year. But if you do go back and you

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Speaker 3: look at last year when the Ravens lost at home

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Speaker 3: in that game and he had a bad shoulder and

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Speaker 3: torching the Ravens secondary at the end.

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Speaker 4: Of that game. No one would like a similar conversation was.

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Speaker 3: Being had that week, and then the Ravens rattled off

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Speaker 3: AFC's top overall seeds. So like, even though the conmerce

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Speaker 3: they've and they've gotten better for it. So I think

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Speaker 3: that that potential still exists. But yes, the defense is

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Speaker 3: going to have to clean up. It's not a one

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Speaker 3: game issue for the defense. It's been a season long

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Speaker 3: this game against the Broncos is I honestly felt I

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Speaker 3: felt for a while now that this is a game

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Speaker 3: League why, probably a little bit overlooked. They have a

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Speaker 3: rookie quarterback who wasn't like he wasn't the top pick.

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Speaker 3: He wasn't He's not Kaylyn Williams or Jade Daniels. So

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Speaker 3: he's still a first round pick. And so he's and

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Speaker 3: he's getting better and he's coming off two really good games.

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Speaker 3: But I think a lot of this comes down to

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Speaker 3: me how the defense is going to respond.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so let's dive into that. What do the Ravens

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Speaker 1: you said, bo Nix is playing pretty darn well. I mean,

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Speaker 1: he he's thrown one interception in his last six games.

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Speaker 1: That's a typical for a rookie. And he's coming off

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Speaker 1: Carolina Panthers this past week. And so bow Knicks is

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Speaker 1: a guy who, you know, all the talk coming out

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Speaker 1: What John Harball talked about is this guy can make

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Speaker 1: He's escaping pressure making those kind of plays that that

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Speaker 1: adds another challenge. And so the key for the Ravens,

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Speaker 1: as is always the case when you face a rookie quarterback,

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Speaker 1: make him hold the ball, confuse him, and get him down.

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Speaker 1: In the case of Bnix, I thought that they did.

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Speaker 1: The Ravens did a pretty good job with jayde Daniels.

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Speaker 1: He played a good game, but you know, I thought

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Speaker 3: Nicks just honing in on the defense, like the defense

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Speaker 3: never been shy about sharing his thoughts in the media

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Speaker 4: He did that again this week.

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Speaker 3: Made the point that we keep receipts and we're gonna

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna remember what he was saying right now here in.

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Speaker 3: Week eight talking about this team, and he was given

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Speaker 3: in the all right, sail down, take a deep breath,

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Speaker 3: we'll be fine kind of Yeah.

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Speaker 4: We're not.

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Speaker 2: That was his approach.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, we're gonna be okay. We're so confident.

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Speaker 3: We like the group, and so that's his mindset, and

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Speaker 3: I think he sets the tone for this defense.

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Speaker 1: I think Kyle Hamilton made some other good points, you know,

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Speaker 1: one the dropped interceptions, three of them in Cleveland, obviously,

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Speaker 1: you feel better are in to some degree about this defense, right,

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Speaker 1: and the offense gives gets more possessions like those are

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Speaker 1: game changers when you drop drop interceptions. At the same time,

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Speaker 1: Kyle Hamilton was like, my feelings about the defense wouldn't

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Speaker 1: really change because Okay, we're still the thirty second ranked

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Speaker 1: we're still near the bottom of the league at pass defense, right,

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Speaker 1: So like that doesn't that's not a fix.

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Speaker 2: All right? Yeah, yeah, like there's other issues.

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Speaker 1: So I thought that was cuduous to him for not

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Speaker 1: just being like, yeah, if we catch a picks, we're

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Speaker 3: You know, that's not let's not have the pendulum swing

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Speaker 1: And I thought he also he also straight up just

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Speaker 1: refuted the notion that like all the defensive coaches that

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Speaker 1: the Ravens lost Mike McDonald, Anthony Weaver, Dinnard Wilson, R. Wilson,

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Speaker 1: thank you that like that that's why they're struggling on defense.

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Speaker 1: He said, No, they got to win more than one

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Speaker 1: on once and when you flip on the tape, like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: they're just not getting they're not not you know, breaking

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Speaker 1: up enough passes. There's been too much easy I think

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Speaker 1: many easy throws, especially on third down. They have not

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Speaker 1: Jameis Winston was just, you know, too many pitch and

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Speaker 1: catch throws for him. Now, early in this season, we

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Speaker 1: quarterbacks were just completing a lot of tight coverage throws.

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Speaker 1: Jameis Winston completed some of those two. You know, eventually,

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Speaker 1: I have to feel like this, these cornerbacks like are

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Speaker 1: Howlton said. It's like, we got to win more of

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Speaker 1: those ones one on ones. We're just not We're not

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Speaker 1: win more of those.

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Speaker 3: Kyle is he's great when he talks to the media,

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Speaker 3: and I think he's really insightful.

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Speaker 4: A lot of time.

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Speaker 3: He has made it clear that he does not feel

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Speaker 3: like he is not an all point in the finger

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Speaker 2: That that's going to be a challenge.

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Speaker 1: They're going to look to run the all the Broncos,

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Speaker 1: And then you know they have Courtland Sutton, a veteran,

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Speaker 3: So we'll take a quick break and then we'll give

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Speaker 1: Now.

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Speaker 3: Another big story this week, of course, is quarterback Lamar Jackson.

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Speaker 1: I think Lamar Jackson is going to play in this game,

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Speaker 1: against the blitz and mar Jackson has been the best

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Speaker 1: in the NFL.

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Speaker 2: But you gotta do that again?

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Speaker 1: Can you do it again? And you know, are those

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Speaker 1: offensive tackle is gonna be able to hold up and

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Speaker 1: all that? So I think that's the challenge this week.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they're gonna be a physical team, Like I think

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Speaker 3: that that's kind of a calling card of a Sean

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Speaker 3: Payton team and an aggressive defense is going to be

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Speaker 3: part of that. I don't think it's gonna be it's

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Speaker 3: gonna be interesting just to see how it compares to

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Speaker 3: the Browns game, because in that Browns game, like they

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Speaker 3: just flooded the backfield both against the run and the pass,

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Speaker 3: crowded the box. And is that the approach that Denver

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Speaker 3: takes in this game. Maybe, Like I think that they're

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Speaker 3: gonna say that they're gonna blitz a lot. They blitzed

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Speaker 3: at high rate. I think they're gonna blitz a lot.

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Speaker 3: I think that much is clear based on how they

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Speaker 3: tend to operate. So I think we're going to see

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Speaker 3: a lot of the blitz. But as we spent a

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Speaker 3: lot of time talking about last week, Lamar has been

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Speaker 3: really good against the blitz this year. I think that

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Speaker 3: what the Ravens need to avoid is basically what happened

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Speaker 3: against the Browns, which is the cold run game wasn't

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Speaker 3: working nearly as well as they would have hoped, especially

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Speaker 3: on early downs, and that put them in situations where

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Speaker 3: they were against they were in longer down in distances

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Speaker 3: when they would want on third down. Then they were

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Speaker 3: not good at all on third down the entire game,

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Speaker 3: in part because they were in longer third down situations

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Speaker 3: than you prefer. But if they're not able to run

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Speaker 3: the ball successfully on first and second down because they're

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Speaker 3: just crashing downhill. Then it's going to be a long day.

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Speaker 3: And I think the Ravens need to have more success.

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Speaker 3: Maybe that's play action on early downs. Maybe that's quick throws,

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Speaker 3: maybe that's just blocking.

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Speaker 4: It up better.

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Speaker 3: Whatever it is, I think the Ravens need to be

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Speaker 3: more successful in early downs in this game.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I mean, we've talked about so many times about how

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Speaker 1: the Ravens have different ways to win. If they're going

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Speaker 1: to try to crash down on that run game to

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Speaker 1: vote extra resources, you have to beat them on some

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Speaker 1: of those quick hitters. And you know, they brought in

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Speaker 1: another wide receiver to help them do that, Deontay Johnson,

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Speaker 1: you know, and I flip on the tape and watch

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Speaker 1: his season with the Carolina Panthers. Thus far, I thought

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Speaker 1: that he can gash you, especially slants, those those things,

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Speaker 1: those quick hitters, and with his speed and the looseness,

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Speaker 1: you know, maybe that's the way that the Ravens approached this.

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Speaker 1: Maybe it's a heavier passing attack. They want to blitz,

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Speaker 1: and you have to beat them, right, You have to

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Speaker 1: make them pay for blitzing. And so winning those one

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Speaker 1: on ones, getting separation, getting the ball out and beating

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Speaker 1: that blitz is going to be key if that's the

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Speaker 1: way that the devil Vermroncos go. And I don't expect

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Speaker 1: Deontay Johnson to have a huge snap count on offense,

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Speaker 1: you know, several days after being traded for. But I

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Speaker 1: do think the Zay Flowers and RuSHA Bateman are going

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Speaker 1: to get theirs.

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Speaker 3: What's your if you look at your crystal ball on

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Speaker 3: the Deontay Johnson front both this game, you just kind

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Speaker 3: of said this game, maybe a limited workload as he

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Speaker 3: gets up to speed and this offense, But play this

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Speaker 3: thing out over the course of the year, like, what

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Speaker 3: does your crystal ball tell you that his impact and

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Speaker 3: his role on this offense is going to be.

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Speaker 1: I think that he's going to primarily give them more

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Speaker 1: three wide receiver looks and when they want to go

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Speaker 1: three wide, which they've done a lot less so far

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Speaker 1: this season than they did a year ago. And you know,

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Speaker 1: it's another speed threat. Primarily it's been Nelly Nelson. Aguilar

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Speaker 1: has been like the number three wide receiver, playing a

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Speaker 1: heavy snap a heavy share of this slot snaps at

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Speaker 1: wide receiver and then otherwise it's been Isaiah likely Mark Andrews.

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Speaker 1: Kind of splitting that from a tight end perspective, Deontay

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Speaker 1: gives you another really botified speed option at slot when

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Speaker 1: you want to go three wide, and so you know,

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Speaker 1: I don't I think that he's going to make some plays.

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Speaker 1: I don't think that he's going to be a high

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Speaker 1: target share kind of guy. That's still going to go

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Speaker 1: to Zay Flowers, I think. And then it's and then

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Speaker 1: from there it's kind of an even spread among the

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Speaker 1: rest of the targets, being Bateman, Mark, Isaiah, and Deontay Johnson.

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Speaker 2: That's what I expect.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that as in the pecking order, I

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Speaker 3: still I would put probably Bateman in Mark ahead of

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Speaker 3: Deontay Johnson. But I think it could be game specific

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Speaker 3: and there could be a game like you could have

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Speaker 3: a game where all sudden, Mark has no catches and

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Speaker 3: Deontay Johnson has five, and then you could in the

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Speaker 3: next week Mark could have five catches and pair of

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Speaker 3: touchdowns and Deonce could have nine. I think it goes

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Speaker 3: back to the whole picture poison thing. But yeah, I'm

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Speaker 3: with you. I don't think it's a massive target share

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Speaker 3: but I think that there's potential for him to come

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Speaker 3: up with really important plays for this team down stretch.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but that possibility exists.

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Speaker 1: Oh, I think he will. Yeah, I don't think it's

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Speaker 1: a possibility.

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Speaker 2: I might not expect.

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Speaker 4: My crystal ball says he's gonna have some big plays.

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Speaker 3: Yes, not just not just in terms of long plays

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Speaker 3: exactly like that.

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Speaker 1: Let move the chains like good hands, like he's gonna

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Speaker 1: make those kind of plays like, you know, that's what

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Speaker 1: OBJ was kind of brought here to be last year. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and Deontay Johns and has more juice than Obj.

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Speaker 4: And they never obviously they never replaced Odell.

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Speaker 3: Basically the replacement there was the target share is really

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Speaker 3: Bateman stepping into that role and then also more going

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Speaker 3: to Isaiah Likely and Mark Andrews with both of them

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Speaker 3: being healthy, like they was kind of dispersed amongst Bateman

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Speaker 3: and Isaiah Likely.

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Speaker 4: That's where it's been how it's worked.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and now this is another person in that mix

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Speaker 3: to kind of replace the role that they had last

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Speaker 3: year with Odell.

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Speaker 2: Yep, I agree.

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Speaker 1: The wide receivers have now whoever they're going against Patserteine.

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Speaker 1: You know he's gonna be Ona's gonna be on bait.

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Speaker 1: That's that's a tough assignment.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, he's one of the best corners.

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Speaker 2: He's one of the best corners of football.

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Speaker 1: So I expect that the Ravens probably will try to

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Speaker 1: attack the other guy, yeah, opposite patser Ta.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, I think this is gonna be a tough

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Speaker 1: matchup for the Ravens offense, but they're up for it. This.

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Speaker 2: Like I said, this is one of the best offenses

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Speaker 2: in the league.

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Speaker 3: And you have the top ranked number one offense yeap,

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Speaker 3: number three defense.

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Speaker 1: Exactly who wins that battle? Yeah, I'm gonna bet on

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Speaker 1: the Ravens.

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Speaker 4: It uh like you're just you're gonna bet the Raves.

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Speaker 4: I thought we're gonna go into something else.

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Speaker 2: Well, I think obviously we all know this is

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Speaker 4: A big one.