WEBVTT - Patti Carr Meets World 0:00:19.560 --> 0:00:24.480 I think one of the most like the coolest parts 0:00:24.480 --> 0:00:27.960 about being middle aged can't. 0:00:29.760 --> 0:00:31.520 I can't hear you is this like. 0:00:33.280 --> 0:00:38.839 Turn it's gonna worl sorry my back hurts, you're in 0:00:38.920 --> 0:00:39.440 a new debt. 0:00:40.800 --> 0:00:45.479 I love these moments where you like just kind of 0:00:45.560 --> 0:00:48.600 general competency, like you can try new things and like 0:00:49.040 --> 0:00:52.120 be good at them or like and the best moments 0:00:52.120 --> 0:00:54.160 are when there's something that you never thought you would 0:00:54.200 --> 0:00:57.280 have interest in or be good at. I have really 0:00:57.400 --> 0:01:02.200 enjoyed cutting my son's hair. I have taught myself Like 0:01:02.320 --> 0:01:04.240 it was just one of those out of necessity things 0:01:04.280 --> 0:01:05.640 like I don't want to have to go pay for 0:01:05.640 --> 0:01:08.000 a haircut, and Alex didn't like to do it anymore, 0:01:08.000 --> 0:01:09.480 and he just never wanted to get a haircut. So 0:01:09.480 --> 0:01:11.600 I was like, Okay, we're gonna watch a show and 0:01:11.640 --> 0:01:13.080 you just sit there and I'm going to figure out 0:01:13.080 --> 0:01:14.039 how to cut it, and now. 0:01:13.959 --> 0:01:16.800 Like I enjoy it. I'm like I can do this. 0:01:17.160 --> 0:01:17.520 Wow. 0:01:18.640 --> 0:01:21.240 So you guys have anything that you figured like like 0:01:21.360 --> 0:01:23.200 if you told yourself that, like you're kind of good 0:01:23.200 --> 0:01:25.440 at and you kind of enjoy that, you would tell 0:01:25.480 --> 0:01:27.600 your you know, eighteen year old self that like if 0:01:27.600 --> 0:01:28.319 you could go back and. 0:01:28.280 --> 0:01:30.960 Say you're one day going to really enjoy cutting hair. 0:01:31.000 --> 0:01:32.720 You had been like, what are you talking? 0:01:32.800 --> 0:01:33.679 Yeah, what are you? 0:01:33.800 --> 0:01:34.200 What is that? 0:01:34.640 --> 0:01:35.880 You must have something like that, right? 0:01:36.040 --> 0:01:38.760 I do gardening. Yeah, that's right. 0:01:39.160 --> 0:01:41.680 I really I love getting out there, getting my hands 0:01:41.680 --> 0:01:42.120 in the dirt. 0:01:42.200 --> 0:01:44.560 Like I'll look at a patch of land in front 0:01:44.600 --> 0:01:46.400 of my house and be like, no, I want to 0:01:46.400 --> 0:01:47.640 move flowers over here. I want to do it. 0:01:47.680 --> 0:01:49.880 And then I put on some headphones and I am 0:01:49.920 --> 0:01:50.800 in seventh Heaven. 0:01:50.880 --> 0:01:52.320 Yeah, no, gardening it is mine. 0:01:52.360 --> 0:01:55.320 Yeah, gosh, you know I did during the pandemic, I 0:01:55.360 --> 0:01:59.240 cut both Jensen and and Adler's hair. I cut, so 0:01:59.320 --> 0:02:01.680 I did, and it was kind of fun, but the 0:02:01.720 --> 0:02:04.960 pressure felt like a lot, especially on Jensen. I was like, 0:02:04.960 --> 0:02:08.600 you're a grown man, Like if I really screw this up, 0:02:08.680 --> 0:02:12.119 this feels this feels big. But I did. I did 0:02:12.240 --> 0:02:15.919 like it, And honestly, writer, you should go to Laurie's 0:02:16.080 --> 0:02:20.320 and pay her for like a haircutting tutorial, like yeah, yeah, 0:02:20.360 --> 0:02:22.359 to teach you, you know, Like. 0:02:22.440 --> 0:02:24.040 I mean, I think part of the thing for me 0:02:24.160 --> 0:02:27.120 is that, like you know, Indy has very similar hair 0:02:27.160 --> 0:02:30.040 to me, like, yeah, my hair. So it's also kind 0:02:30.040 --> 0:02:32.079 of satisfying because like I used to get really bad 0:02:32.080 --> 0:02:35.079 haircuts before professionals like Laurie and said, like when I 0:02:35.120 --> 0:02:36.800 was a kid, it was just a disaster and like 0:02:37.040 --> 0:02:39.000 and it's you know, it's just thick, it's weird, it's 0:02:39.160 --> 0:02:41.040 there's a lot of it. So like I feel like 0:02:41.400 --> 0:02:43.800 I got you, I got you kids, Like being a 0:02:43.800 --> 0:02:46.519 good dad is like hair, and I could take care 0:02:46.560 --> 0:02:46.840 of this. 0:02:47.360 --> 0:02:48.600 So but it's just so satisfying. 0:02:48.639 --> 0:02:51.360 So so I don't know if I would be get 0:02:51.440 --> 0:02:53.480 the same thing from doing anybody else's hair for instance. 0:02:53.520 --> 0:02:56.360 You know, I think it's a very specific skill that 0:02:56.440 --> 0:02:58.800 maybe I've mastered, but yeah, sure I could expand it 0:02:58.880 --> 0:03:01.440 because it is like it's a it just like you're saying, 0:03:01.440 --> 0:03:03.919 will it's like this fun challenge of like, right, I 0:03:04.160 --> 0:03:05.720 think I know how I want this to look and 0:03:05.720 --> 0:03:07.640 should look, and I'm going to figure this out how 0:03:07.680 --> 0:03:10.360 to do that and getting through that and like, you know, 0:03:10.440 --> 0:03:12.560 being very scared the first time I did it, because 0:03:12.600 --> 0:03:14.200 of course you're like if I messed this up. 0:03:15.639 --> 0:03:18.120 Yeah it'll go, but still you have a couple of 0:03:18.160 --> 0:03:20.400 months of not looking great. Yeah that's a big one. 0:03:20.560 --> 0:03:22.120 But I just love I don't know to me. 0:03:22.160 --> 0:03:24.240 It's it's a function of age where you're like, you 0:03:24.240 --> 0:03:26.080 know what, I'm going to try this thing that I 0:03:26.160 --> 0:03:27.720 might not be very good at, but I'm going to 0:03:27.760 --> 0:03:29.520 try it, and then you realize like, actually I can 0:03:29.600 --> 0:03:31.560 kind of do it, and I enjoy it. 0:03:32.280 --> 0:03:32.520 Yeah. 0:03:33.400 --> 0:03:34.920 I think one of the things for me that is 0:03:34.960 --> 0:03:37.000 that was true for me back then that I couldn't 0:03:37.000 --> 0:03:39.119 have necessarily ever seen how it was going to play 0:03:39.160 --> 0:03:40.960 out in my life is that I was a very 0:03:41.080 --> 0:03:44.080 athletic teenager, even though I didn't get to play sports 0:03:44.280 --> 0:03:46.920 or do any of that stuff as a kid because 0:03:46.920 --> 0:03:48.840 I was on Boy Meets World. But I was like, 0:03:48.880 --> 0:03:52.600 I've always been kind of naturally athletic and good at 0:03:52.640 --> 0:03:55.280 sports and kind I had good balance, and I can 0:03:55.320 --> 0:03:56.520 pick up things pretty quickly. 0:03:56.560 --> 0:03:57.320 You're coordinated. 0:03:57.480 --> 0:04:01.600 I'm coordinated, and I'm strong. And now having two boys 0:04:01.760 --> 0:04:07.480 that are in my case, very stereotypical athlete boys. They 0:04:07.640 --> 0:04:10.960 love to be physical. The fact that like al Adler 0:04:10.960 --> 0:04:12.680 and I can look at each other and go all right, 0:04:12.920 --> 0:04:17.280 squat contest, and like, you know that I can participate 0:04:17.400 --> 0:04:21.240 in his karate, in his baseball, in his like let's 0:04:21.240 --> 0:04:23.120 go outside and throw a ball. And I bought a 0:04:23.120 --> 0:04:27.479 pitching machine this weekend. He's you know, and like, because 0:04:27.520 --> 0:04:29.720 I've always been comfortable with it. It's not a thing 0:04:29.760 --> 0:04:31.479 I have to be like, Well, your father's gonna have 0:04:31.560 --> 0:04:33.679 to do that. Jensen can do it too, because Jensen's 0:04:33.680 --> 0:04:36.000 also athletic. But I get to participate in it. So 0:04:36.160 --> 0:04:39.000 if anything, I'm just like, man, I'm glad I'm a 0:04:39.000 --> 0:04:44.560 boy mom. It worked out in my favor that never 0:04:44.720 --> 0:04:46.640 I never would have thought like, oh, that's gonna end 0:04:46.680 --> 0:04:48.960 up having any sort of benefit to me, But I do. 0:04:49.160 --> 0:04:52.920 I do, actually really enjoy it. So welcome to Pod 0:04:52.960 --> 0:04:55.520 meets World. I'm Daniel Fishal, I'm right or Strong, and 0:04:55.560 --> 0:05:09.800 I'm Will Fordell. On our mission to find everyone who 0:05:09.960 --> 0:05:12.280 even just saw a sip a red drink on the 0:05:12.279 --> 0:05:14.839 set of Boy Meets World, we have been very lucky 0:05:14.839 --> 0:05:17.240 to reunite with some of our favorite people, and a 0:05:17.279 --> 0:05:19.680 lot of those familiar faces have come straight from the 0:05:19.680 --> 0:05:22.640 writer's room, and let's be honest, they were tasked with 0:05:22.880 --> 0:05:27.880 arguably the hardest job of all creating storylines, crafting dialogue, 0:05:27.880 --> 0:05:32.600 and satisfying network notes, all while eating massive amounts of cuckaroo. 0:05:33.279 --> 0:05:36.200 We now analyze their scripts thirty years later as the 0:05:36.200 --> 0:05:38.600 premise of our podcast. And one thing we do not 0:05:38.800 --> 0:05:41.120 mention enough they did it all with an amount of 0:05:41.160 --> 0:05:44.520 pressure and a hurried timeline that would make it difficult 0:05:44.560 --> 0:05:47.680 to print the pages fast enough. We've already heard from 0:05:47.680 --> 0:05:49.800 a ton of great writers who spent time on Boy 0:05:49.800 --> 0:05:52.480 Meets World, and they've made no secret of the job's 0:05:52.520 --> 0:05:55.719 difficult nature. But most have also called it the best 0:05:55.720 --> 0:05:58.880 time of their professional careers. And today we get to 0:05:58.880 --> 0:06:02.719 speak to another one these fascinating and prolific humans, a 0:06:02.760 --> 0:06:05.479 writer who, along with her creative partner at the time, 0:06:05.680 --> 0:06:09.240 Laura Olson, wrote some of the most memorable and strange 0:06:09.400 --> 0:06:12.440 scripts of the series. Was she forced to send us 0:06:12.480 --> 0:06:14.880 to the forties to deal with the drama and horror 0:06:14.880 --> 0:06:15.720 of World War Two? 0:06:16.040 --> 0:06:16.280 Yes? 0:06:17.000 --> 0:06:18.799 Was she one of the two names on the front 0:06:18.800 --> 0:06:21.680 of a script where we all met Lauren the Temptress, 0:06:21.720 --> 0:06:24.680 snow Bunny ready to ruin the happy teenage home of 0:06:24.720 --> 0:06:28.440 Corey and Topanga. Also Yes, And now for season six, 0:06:28.640 --> 0:06:30.800 we're going to ask her all about the day a 0:06:30.880 --> 0:06:34.680 young art prodigy walked on set and Corey was metaphorically 0:06:34.720 --> 0:06:38.200 compared to Celery. Her first big gig may have been 0:06:38.240 --> 0:06:41.240 Boy Meets World. But since our final episode, she hasn't 0:06:41.279 --> 0:06:44.040 stopped working. Here's just a quick hit list of what 0:06:44.120 --> 0:06:47.560 she's done. Riba Till Death, Private Practice, nine O two 0:06:47.600 --> 0:06:51.560 one zero, Mixology, Rain, and The Good Doctor. But today 0:06:51.760 --> 0:06:54.640 we're making her talk about her three seasons on the ABC. 0:06:54.880 --> 0:06:58.360 Thank goodness, it's funny family sitcom where she's fifty percent 0:06:58.440 --> 0:07:02.000 to blame for Corey cheating on to Penga. Welcome to 0:07:02.120 --> 0:07:08.760 Pod Meets World, Patty Carr. Yes, Hi, Hi, can you 0:07:08.839 --> 0:07:09.200 hear us? 0:07:09.240 --> 0:07:09.640 Cus? 0:07:10.240 --> 0:07:11.680 Can I can hear and see you? 0:07:12.080 --> 0:07:13.640 Yes, it's so. 0:07:13.560 --> 0:07:17.360 Good to see you. Thank you so much for being 0:07:17.400 --> 0:07:20.600 here with us. We recently sat down with your former 0:07:20.640 --> 0:07:24.119 writing partner and your still friend Laura, and she talked 0:07:24.160 --> 0:07:28.640 about your start in Hollywood, capitalizing, paying two women for 0:07:28.680 --> 0:07:32.120 the price of one, fighting for gigs. What do you 0:07:32.120 --> 0:07:35.560 remember about those old days writing on animated shows like Extreme, 0:07:35.600 --> 0:07:37.080 Ghostbusters and Jumanji. 0:07:38.440 --> 0:07:44.960 Oh my gosh. Well, first of all, thank you for 0:07:45.000 --> 0:07:47.160 having me. I don't remember many. 0:07:46.960 --> 0:07:50.120 Things, so neither do I. Yeah, this is going to 0:07:50.200 --> 0:07:51.520 be I'm going to make stuff up. 0:07:52.320 --> 0:07:53.400 We all know the difference. Y. 0:07:53.640 --> 0:07:55.920 Yeah, I remember getting the studio and a horse and 0:07:55.960 --> 0:08:06.160 buggy and different time, you know, as far as our start, 0:08:06.200 --> 0:08:09.360 and I'm sure Lara Lara is much better at having 0:08:09.400 --> 0:08:13.440 the old timey stories at her fingerstips that I do 0:08:13.680 --> 0:08:18.000 remember that we started on Boy Meets World. 0:08:17.960 --> 0:08:21.240 Was our was our first you know, uh. 0:08:21.160 --> 0:08:24.920 Network show job, got some animation and things like that. 0:08:25.440 --> 0:08:30.480 Generally speaking, at that time, things were very segmented, very separate, 0:08:30.600 --> 0:08:36.880 and so doing animation didn't mean anything. Yeah, no, I 0:08:36.880 --> 0:08:38.920 guess they not only didn't care, they didn't want to 0:08:38.920 --> 0:08:41.240 know that you did it. 0:08:40.120 --> 0:08:44.640 Don't I pretend you didn't do that. 0:08:47.000 --> 0:08:51.360 So but the interesting one of the interesting things was 0:08:51.440 --> 0:08:55.200 that when we when we started and we worked on 0:08:55.200 --> 0:08:59.439 on Boy Meets World during the hiatus, we would still 0:08:59.720 --> 0:09:04.720 you know, do animation work, and we you know, got 0:09:05.200 --> 0:09:13.720 through other animation people, animation writers. We got connected with, uh. 0:09:14.200 --> 0:09:16.840 I think it was Kim Possible. That was also that 0:09:16.960 --> 0:09:20.720 was also a Disney thing, right. So we'd been on 0:09:20.800 --> 0:09:24.720 Boy Meets World, we'd written you know, three scripts as 0:09:25.000 --> 0:09:29.240 staff writers for Boy Meets World, we were produced writers, 0:09:29.320 --> 0:09:35.120 and when we went into pitch you know, for Kim Possible, 0:09:35.120 --> 0:09:37.000 they said, well, you have to meet with the studio 0:09:37.080 --> 0:09:42.320 of people. We're like, okay, and and they questioned us 0:09:42.320 --> 0:09:44.680 as it's like, so, what have you done? 0:09:44.760 --> 0:09:49.400 Really? I said, I just worked for you, you know, 0:09:49.640 --> 0:09:54.760 and there could we see more examples? It was. 0:09:56.559 --> 0:10:00.200 For three years, right like, and for you guys, for 0:10:00.280 --> 0:10:03.160 this company, but not for our animation. 0:10:03.480 --> 0:10:07.120 And you know it really it was I think that. 0:10:07.160 --> 0:10:11.920 Was particular to Disney where the mouse, the mouse is everything, 0:10:12.559 --> 0:10:12.760 you know. 0:10:14.360 --> 0:10:17.360 So, yeah, do you remember about getting the Boy Meets 0:10:17.400 --> 0:10:17.960 World job? 0:10:19.600 --> 0:10:24.360 What what I remember was that we were such novices 0:10:24.400 --> 0:10:27.640 to the industry that we were coming in. 0:10:27.679 --> 0:10:31.800 And we knew that, you know that Michael Jacobs had 0:10:31.840 --> 0:10:32.559 two shows. 0:10:32.559 --> 0:10:35.480 He had Boy Meets World, which was going into season four, 0:10:36.040 --> 0:10:40.920 and a new show called You Wish, And in our 0:10:41.000 --> 0:10:45.440 minds were like, well the new show has that's the 0:10:45.480 --> 0:10:47.280 one you want, so you can get in on the 0:10:47.280 --> 0:10:50.439 ground floor and just ride that gravy train to the end. 0:10:51.200 --> 0:10:51.480 You know. 0:10:51.720 --> 0:10:54.880 The Boy Meets World is it's going into season four, 0:10:54.960 --> 0:10:57.960 and I think that was the it might have been 0:10:58.000 --> 0:11:00.880 the last year that they were in well in high school, 0:11:01.040 --> 0:11:02.679 like it had the air. 0:11:02.760 --> 0:11:07.720 Of well wouldn't that you know, right? Right? 0:11:08.320 --> 0:11:12.600 So, you know, so we were really working up our 0:11:13.240 --> 0:11:14.600 Genie pitches, right. 0:11:14.480 --> 0:11:16.880 You were really excited for getting staffed on you. 0:11:17.440 --> 0:11:19.679 They go to you Wish and then then we got 0:11:19.679 --> 0:11:21.600 the offer in Boy Meets World, which was you know, 0:11:21.720 --> 0:11:25.040 obviously we were thrilled to do anything where they. 0:11:25.040 --> 0:11:27.200 Had you guys written a spec script for another show. 0:11:28.480 --> 0:11:31.359 Oh, we had a couple of specs scripts. I think. 0:11:34.920 --> 0:11:39.439 You Wish fans and you're just like, oh God, I 0:11:39.440 --> 0:11:40.160 can't believe we're doing that. 0:11:40.400 --> 0:11:46.200 Can't believe everything that we did was was magic relating Now, 0:11:46.280 --> 0:11:48.760 I mean I think we as I recall it was 0:11:48.800 --> 0:11:53.760 probably it was probably mad about you. That was what 0:11:53.800 --> 0:11:56.280 they what they looked at that was there were a 0:11:56.280 --> 0:12:00.480 lot more. It was a lot easier to specush show 0:12:00.600 --> 0:12:05.720 as a sample back then than it is today. It's 0:12:05.760 --> 0:12:09.200 in particular today, I know, you know, with writers coming 0:12:09.240 --> 0:12:13.240 into the business, when they try to spec an existing show, 0:12:13.320 --> 0:12:17.880 there's so many existing shows that everybody isn't familiar with 0:12:18.559 --> 0:12:21.200 that it's hard to find one where you're not going like, 0:12:21.320 --> 0:12:23.440 I don't know if this is a good episode of 0:12:23.679 --> 0:12:27.320 you know, you know whatever, I've never seen this thing, 0:12:27.440 --> 0:12:28.079 and you know. 0:12:28.480 --> 0:12:31.719 Are specs as do people care about specs now? 0:12:32.400 --> 0:12:37.400 No, I mean I think it's pretty rare, but mostly 0:12:37.480 --> 0:12:42.360 for that reason, they really are valuable. You do have 0:12:42.480 --> 0:12:45.040 to know the show that the people are specking. So 0:12:45.120 --> 0:12:50.560 I would imagine for some for some types of shows 0:12:50.600 --> 0:12:53.280 that there's you know, if you have a Simpson Spec 0:12:53.400 --> 0:12:56.280 or something, everybody knows. You know, there's stuff that's current 0:12:56.320 --> 0:13:01.080 that everybody's familiar with, but that has become such a 0:13:01.200 --> 0:13:04.840 different that we're not all watching the same things. 0:13:05.080 --> 0:13:05.280 I know. 0:13:05.280 --> 0:13:07.520 It's also gone through like trends, Like it used to 0:13:07.520 --> 0:13:09.480 be never write an original pilot. Then it was like 0:13:09.600 --> 0:13:11.520 only write original pilot, and then there was like a 0:13:11.559 --> 0:13:14.400 little period where everyone was doing like bizarro mashups. 0:13:15.000 --> 0:13:15.800 I'm going to do an. 0:13:15.720 --> 0:13:19.520 Episode of you know, community meets mash and like just 0:13:19.559 --> 0:13:21.480 to be show your creativity and show that you can 0:13:21.520 --> 0:13:24.280 master two different forms. It's like, you know, whatever, whatever 0:13:24.360 --> 0:13:26.520 gets your gets gets you noticed, you. 0:13:26.440 --> 0:13:29.000 Know, right, yeah, something some you know. 0:13:29.080 --> 0:13:33.160 There there have been times where there have been showrunners who, 0:13:33.240 --> 0:13:37.600 particularly people who didn't come up through television, who were like, well, 0:13:37.640 --> 0:13:41.000 I want my show to be different than which is 0:13:41.040 --> 0:13:46.040 always kind of hilarious to me because it's it's like, well, 0:13:46.080 --> 0:13:47.640 people like television. 0:13:47.920 --> 0:13:49.600 Right, why do you want to make a TV show 0:13:49.679 --> 0:13:50.360 you hate so much? 0:13:50.920 --> 0:13:51.160 Yeah? 0:13:51.600 --> 0:13:52.120 I don't want it. 0:13:52.200 --> 0:13:54.240 I don't want it to be like one of those pesky, 0:13:54.360 --> 0:13:57.320 successful shows people love. 0:14:00.160 --> 0:14:02.640 Had you ever seen Boy Meets World before you got 0:14:02.640 --> 0:14:03.040 the job? 0:14:04.480 --> 0:14:07.640 That's a good question because I wasn't exactly in the 0:14:08.640 --> 0:14:12.720 prime demographic for uh, you know, because you know, being 0:14:13.440 --> 0:14:21.680 sort of mid twenty, you know, the like home watching 0:14:21.680 --> 0:14:26.000 TV on Friday evening. It wasn't like my mainstay. So 0:14:26.520 --> 0:14:29.520 i'd seen it before I was aware of it, definitely, Right. 0:14:29.800 --> 0:14:31.920 Were you a big television fan growing up? 0:14:31.960 --> 0:14:33.520 I mean, was this something that you knew you wanted 0:14:33.520 --> 0:14:35.800 to do and it just I mean again, I was 0:14:35.800 --> 0:14:37.600 addicted to TV my whole life, So were you Were 0:14:37.600 --> 0:14:38.000 you one of. 0:14:37.920 --> 0:14:38.640 Those people as well? 0:14:39.600 --> 0:14:39.920 Yeah? 0:14:40.000 --> 0:14:42.360 Well, I mean, first of all, TV was all we 0:14:42.440 --> 0:14:51.480 had back then, so and I think that's what's funny 0:14:51.720 --> 0:14:55.960 is if you remember way back when when they would 0:14:56.000 --> 0:15:01.240 occasionally show outtakes and I remember there being some kind 0:15:01.280 --> 0:15:06.080 of special about MASH and they showed outtakes from MASH 0:15:06.120 --> 0:15:09.000 and everybody looked like they were having such a good time, 0:15:09.680 --> 0:15:11.800 and I was like, that's awesome. You know, I would 0:15:11.800 --> 0:15:14.480 love to do that, you know, I love these shows. 0:15:14.560 --> 0:15:17.080 And then see the people were actually making them and 0:15:17.560 --> 0:15:23.200 working together, and at some point in my career I 0:15:23.320 --> 0:15:26.760 realized that those outtakes were actually blowing the take and 0:15:26.840 --> 0:15:27.200 that you. 0:15:27.200 --> 0:15:28.080 Were working longer. 0:15:28.640 --> 0:15:31.000 And then I stand to realize, like I've just been 0:15:31.040 --> 0:15:37.880 watching people having the best time, and everyone's going like, 0:15:38.040 --> 0:15:39.760 come on, just say the words. 0:15:39.880 --> 0:15:46.360 Just so you come on in season five and are 0:15:46.480 --> 0:15:48.680 Bluckman and bus Gang running the room at the time 0:15:48.680 --> 0:15:49.760 that you start or is. 0:15:49.720 --> 0:15:53.960 Michael Yes, Now that was because of the You Wish, 0:15:54.120 --> 0:15:57.560 because You Wish launched and Michael went over to You 0:15:57.680 --> 0:16:02.120 Wish and we came into the show and Howard and 0:16:02.160 --> 0:16:05.560 Mark were running it, and you know, and we sort of. 0:16:06.280 --> 0:16:08.440 Met the writers who were there. 0:16:08.560 --> 0:16:12.800 I think there were, I mean there was there were 0:16:12.840 --> 0:16:15.400 a couple other writers who were new to the show, 0:16:16.000 --> 0:16:18.960 a couple you know, a couple levels, and then there 0:16:18.960 --> 0:16:21.760 were people who'd been there the whole time. And yeah, 0:16:21.960 --> 0:16:24.520 you know, so we kind of came in and really 0:16:26.440 --> 0:16:29.000 learned the ropes of our writer's room, which was not 0:16:29.800 --> 0:16:32.520 something that you know, in animation, that's not how it 0:16:32.520 --> 0:16:35.240 gets done in the in the room. And so that was, 0:16:35.680 --> 0:16:40.080 you know, that was an exciting yeah process and see 0:16:40.080 --> 0:16:40.840 how that worked. 0:16:41.080 --> 0:16:43.640 And so what was your feeling. Were you guys nervous 0:16:43.680 --> 0:16:46.880 at first to contribute? Did you feel like you fit 0:16:47.000 --> 0:16:48.880 right in? What are your This is like kind of 0:16:48.920 --> 0:16:50.840 a whole, whole new thing for you. How are you 0:16:50.880 --> 0:16:51.800 feeling when you started? 0:16:53.920 --> 0:16:57.320 I think, you know, one of the benefits in my 0:16:57.440 --> 0:17:00.160 mind that that Laura and I had was so much 0:17:00.240 --> 0:17:03.120 total ignorance that we didn't know. 0:17:03.920 --> 0:17:05.240 We didn't know what to be. 0:17:05.240 --> 0:17:08.639 Worried about or what to be afraid of. That I 0:17:08.720 --> 0:17:11.280 remember in particular, we're coming on as staff writers. It's 0:17:11.320 --> 0:17:16.360 the lowest level of writers, and there was another writing 0:17:16.520 --> 0:17:20.680 team who were I think like executive story editors, sort 0:17:20.680 --> 0:17:24.360 of to you know, two levels above us. And often 0:17:24.560 --> 0:17:28.240 when you come on to a show, they've assigned people 0:17:28.320 --> 0:17:34.840 their offices and their their space for whatever reason. Howard 0:17:34.880 --> 0:17:37.280 and Mark were like, you guys, just look around and 0:17:37.359 --> 0:17:43.760 pickwood office you want. So and this upper level team, 0:17:43.960 --> 0:17:47.200 who was also new to this show. One of them 0:17:47.240 --> 0:17:49.320 wasn't there that day, so it was sort of a 0:17:49.400 --> 0:17:50.440 two against one thing. 0:17:50.560 --> 0:17:51.440 But we didn't know. 0:17:51.520 --> 0:17:56.000 We weren't thinking about hierarchy or anything. We just found 0:17:56.359 --> 0:17:59.399 a really nice corner office and like, this is great, 0:18:00.160 --> 0:18:02.760 and this guy said, oh yeah, it is great. They 0:18:02.800 --> 0:18:05.320 were like, you don't mind if we take this one, right, 0:18:05.640 --> 0:18:08.640 you know, and he and his partner were she kind 0:18:08.640 --> 0:18:12.399 of got shunted into like the closet or whatever, and 0:18:12.440 --> 0:18:16.040 then she came Yeah, she came back to work and 0:18:16.080 --> 0:18:18.080 I guess looked at him and was like, are you 0:18:18.200 --> 0:18:22.760 kidding me? And came in and said, you're the staff writers, 0:18:22.840 --> 0:18:24.920 so you should have that office. 0:18:25.400 --> 0:18:27.160 We should have this office. 0:18:27.240 --> 0:18:28.840 Which as soon as she said it was like, that 0:18:28.920 --> 0:18:33.000 makes sense, That's how it should have been done. 0:18:36.200 --> 0:18:39.720 It was not, uh, you know, we we weren't. 0:18:39.440 --> 0:18:43.639 Looking at it again with any kind of malice or 0:18:44.359 --> 0:18:49.160 idea like. It was just just two goofballs going like, oh, it. 0:18:49.160 --> 0:18:53.560 Was pretty well. 0:18:53.880 --> 0:18:57.119 Your first script is then the Acid Trip that is 0:18:57.280 --> 0:19:01.760 No Guts, No Corey, which sent us toineteen forties wartime 0:19:02.720 --> 0:19:04.919 thanks to the Cat from Sabrina. Did you feel like 0:19:05.000 --> 0:19:06.320 this was a form of hazing? 0:19:08.200 --> 0:19:11.480 It turned into a form of hazing it. So that 0:19:11.600 --> 0:19:14.560 was a that was a theme night as the Cat 0:19:14.640 --> 0:19:18.280 from Sabrina was going to send all the TGIF shows 0:19:18.359 --> 0:19:22.639 back in time, and we were all supposed to pitch 0:19:22.800 --> 0:19:25.919 the time period that we got sent back to. And 0:19:25.960 --> 0:19:27.520 I think by the time we got it. 0:19:28.480 --> 0:19:29.360 I think. 0:19:31.080 --> 0:19:34.200 I think Sabrina the Teenage, which might have been going 0:19:34.240 --> 0:19:39.240 back to the sixties already. And then another show and 0:19:39.320 --> 0:19:41.399 I'm trying to remember. I can't remember the name of 0:19:41.440 --> 0:19:41.800 the show. 0:19:41.840 --> 0:19:43.800 I knew all the good ones were taken. 0:19:44.440 --> 0:19:45.000 They took. 0:19:45.600 --> 0:19:47.920 Yeah, so it might have been you wish, But wasn't 0:19:47.920 --> 0:19:51.080 it you wish. Weren't they TGIF two at the time? 0:19:52.320 --> 0:19:53.639 Maybe yeah, I mean. 0:19:54.440 --> 0:19:55.240 But so they went. 0:19:55.320 --> 0:19:58.000 So it was basically it was like, Okay, we went 0:19:58.080 --> 0:20:03.880 back to somebody went back to the fifties. Somebody went 0:20:03.920 --> 0:20:04.280 back to. 0:20:05.760 --> 0:20:10.480 The sixties. You know, we were in the nineties. 0:20:11.560 --> 0:20:12.879 Yeah, we had the last thing. It was like, you 0:20:12.920 --> 0:20:16.240 guys have to do nineteen twelve, Like wait, well, And I. 0:20:16.200 --> 0:20:18.600 Think initially we were like, oh, we'll do the. 0:20:18.520 --> 0:20:21.720 Forties and we'll do this World War two you know 0:20:22.280 --> 0:20:25.080 kind of thing, because it had a look and it had, 0:20:26.080 --> 0:20:28.159 you know, sort of some drama to it, and the 0:20:28.240 --> 0:20:29.720 idea of like we've got. 0:20:29.640 --> 0:20:33.160 Corey and Pangan you know, yeah lover. 0:20:33.440 --> 0:20:35.679 It seemed like that was you know, that was kind 0:20:35.720 --> 0:20:38.959 of cute, and so we started there and it seemed 0:20:39.000 --> 0:20:43.840 like it was fine. And then the process of sort 0:20:43.840 --> 0:20:47.760 of breaking the story at some point just fell apart. 0:20:47.800 --> 0:20:52.600 There was crazy. I mean, I think here's what. 0:20:52.520 --> 0:20:57.960 We just again, innocently not anticipating Nazis. 0:20:59.040 --> 0:21:00.359 Nazis ruined rething. 0:21:00.560 --> 0:21:04.640 You know, Yeah, where's the comedic Nazi beat? 0:21:04.720 --> 0:21:04.880 Yeah? 0:21:04.960 --> 0:21:08.080 Yeah. There came a point where there were things pitched 0:21:08.680 --> 0:21:09.720 that the network. 0:21:09.840 --> 0:21:12.200 Oh, we're not going to do that. 0:21:12.200 --> 0:21:15.399 That was that war. That's what we came to, which 0:21:15.480 --> 0:21:17.600