1 00:00:00,520 --> 00:00:03,800 Speaker 1: Our Way with yours truly Paul Anka and my buddy 2 00:00:03,840 --> 00:00:14,000 Speaker 1: Skip Bronson, is a production of iHeartRadio. Hi, folks, this 3 00:00:14,040 --> 00:00:15,000 Speaker 1: is Paul Anka. 4 00:00:14,840 --> 00:00:16,280 Speaker 2: And my name is Skip Bronson. 5 00:00:16,600 --> 00:00:19,280 Speaker 3: We've been friends for decades and we've decided to let 6 00:00:19,280 --> 00:00:21,800 Speaker 3: you in on our late night phone calls by starting 7 00:00:21,800 --> 00:00:23,240 Speaker 3: a new podcast. 8 00:00:22,920 --> 00:00:26,160 Speaker 1: And welcome to Our Way. We'd like you to meet 9 00:00:26,200 --> 00:00:27,600 Speaker 1: some real good friends of ours. 10 00:00:27,720 --> 00:00:29,640 Speaker 2: Your leaders in entertainment and. 11 00:00:29,560 --> 00:00:33,920 Speaker 1: Sports, innovators in business and technology, and even a sitting 12 00:00:34,000 --> 00:00:34,800 Speaker 1: president or two. 13 00:00:35,280 --> 00:00:37,800 Speaker 3: Join us as we ask the questions they've not been 14 00:00:37,840 --> 00:00:40,960 Speaker 3: asked before, tell it like it is, and even sing 15 00:00:41,000 --> 00:00:41,720 Speaker 3: a song or two. 16 00:00:42,040 --> 00:01:19,880 Speaker 1: This is our podcast and we'll be doing it our way. 17 00:01:26,200 --> 00:01:28,800 Speaker 4: Hey, what do you have to did you hear? Beyonce's 18 00:01:28,840 --> 00:01:31,479 Speaker 4: new album, Cowboy Tarter System came out this week. 19 00:01:31,959 --> 00:01:34,720 Speaker 5: Yeah, everybody should be in the country music because I 20 00:01:34,720 --> 00:01:38,679 Speaker 5: think it's the tourist form of American music is country music. 21 00:01:38,760 --> 00:01:41,120 Speaker 5: I mean, I grew up on it back in Canada. 22 00:01:41,240 --> 00:01:43,640 Speaker 5: You know. It was just it's the greatest form that 23 00:01:43,680 --> 00:01:46,080 Speaker 5: we have that in jazz. But it's a great album. 24 00:01:46,319 --> 00:01:49,280 Speaker 5: The single's very very cool, and the Joelene they changed 25 00:01:49,320 --> 00:01:51,520 Speaker 5: the lyrics. I think she sings it with Dolly Partons. 26 00:01:51,640 --> 00:01:54,000 Speaker 4: You know, it's just amazing. Isn't country music the number 27 00:01:54,040 --> 00:01:54,920 Speaker 4: one format now? 28 00:01:55,960 --> 00:01:56,400 Speaker 3: I think so. 29 00:01:57,800 --> 00:01:59,840 Speaker 5: I don't know the answer to that. I know that 30 00:02:00,320 --> 00:02:03,200 Speaker 5: it's a very important part of the whole mosaic of 31 00:02:03,280 --> 00:02:06,640 Speaker 5: music because it's not just country anymore. It's country pop. 32 00:02:07,200 --> 00:02:09,160 Speaker 5: It's got a little country R and B to it. 33 00:02:09,720 --> 00:02:12,639 Speaker 5: You've got, you know, a lot of the performers, the stars, 34 00:02:12,840 --> 00:02:15,359 Speaker 5: they've got the it. They're all glammed up. You never 35 00:02:15,480 --> 00:02:19,520 Speaker 5: saw that years ago. Beyond that story, the force today 36 00:02:20,320 --> 00:02:23,440 Speaker 5: in music for me, and she tops it off now 37 00:02:23,520 --> 00:02:26,520 Speaker 5: are women. There's a song out now by a girl 38 00:02:26,600 --> 00:02:32,639 Speaker 5: called Dasha and it's called Austin, and it's so real 39 00:02:32,800 --> 00:02:35,920 Speaker 5: and authentic. The way this girl sings it and the 40 00:02:35,960 --> 00:02:41,639 Speaker 5: way they've produced it. It's an amazing, amazing record. Dasha Austin. 41 00:02:42,320 --> 00:02:44,600 Speaker 5: You've got all these women who've come out now and 42 00:02:44,840 --> 00:02:46,520 Speaker 5: they've got stronger presents than the men. 43 00:02:46,919 --> 00:02:51,080 Speaker 4: And talking about country. When you first started, wasn't rockabilly 44 00:02:51,280 --> 00:02:53,359 Speaker 4: that was sort of the precursor to rock and roll. 45 00:02:53,440 --> 00:02:56,840 Speaker 5: Well, rockabilly started. There was a guy in England called 46 00:02:56,960 --> 00:03:01,000 Speaker 5: Lonnie Ganigan and I used to sing it as a kid. 47 00:03:01,240 --> 00:03:04,720 Speaker 5: It was that kind of music, the first of its kind, 48 00:03:04,840 --> 00:03:07,720 Speaker 5: and who tried to make it, Pops little rear. It 49 00:03:07,840 --> 00:03:12,840 Speaker 5: was Bobby Darren. Bobby Darren's first record on Decca was 50 00:03:13,240 --> 00:03:16,080 Speaker 5: Rock Island Line David Diggen When You Getting In and 51 00:03:16,120 --> 00:03:19,040 Speaker 5: it was exactly that. That was Darren's first record on Decca. 52 00:03:19,800 --> 00:03:21,679 Speaker 5: Of course after that he went rock and roll, But 53 00:03:21,720 --> 00:03:24,359 Speaker 5: you're right, that was probably one of the first. Ronnie 54 00:03:24,440 --> 00:03:26,519 Speaker 5: Donogan I think his name was a British artist. 55 00:03:27,160 --> 00:03:30,399 Speaker 4: Huh, yeah, can you remember what you had for breakfast? 56 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:37,040 Speaker 5: Me? What's that? God? I don't know where I get 57 00:03:37,040 --> 00:03:40,280 Speaker 5: this from. Yeah, you know what? You know what I'm 58 00:03:40,320 --> 00:03:43,680 Speaker 5: excited about. Man. The response to our brother Steve, Steve 59 00:03:43,720 --> 00:03:46,200 Speaker 5: Winn for the rest of them. I can't believe the 60 00:03:46,280 --> 00:03:47,800 Speaker 5: response I got. How was it for you? 61 00:03:48,480 --> 00:03:49,160 Speaker 2: Unbelievable? 62 00:03:49,360 --> 00:03:52,360 Speaker 4: Got so many calls, texts? Yeah, people were you know. 63 00:03:52,680 --> 00:03:53,480 Speaker 2: The stories. 64 00:03:53,880 --> 00:03:56,720 Speaker 4: Look the guy, he's got great stories and is a 65 00:03:56,720 --> 00:03:57,760 Speaker 4: great storyteller. 66 00:03:58,520 --> 00:04:01,360 Speaker 5: He's a wordsmith, you know the way he puts it 67 00:04:01,400 --> 00:04:04,400 Speaker 5: all together. And but you and I know that for years, 68 00:04:04,440 --> 00:04:07,640 Speaker 5: I think what would be cool? Do you want to 69 00:04:07,680 --> 00:04:09,040 Speaker 5: call him or do you want me to call him? 70 00:04:09,040 --> 00:04:11,920 Speaker 5: I think we should get him for one more episode. 71 00:04:12,160 --> 00:04:14,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, no, it should because I want to get into 72 00:04:14,440 --> 00:04:18,000 Speaker 4: the design process. You've probably heard this. He does a 73 00:04:18,040 --> 00:04:21,960 Speaker 4: whole thing about how conflict and tension are so critical. 74 00:04:22,480 --> 00:04:24,880 Speaker 4: You know, when he first did the Mirage, a tropical 75 00:04:24,960 --> 00:04:27,120 Speaker 4: themed resort in the middle of a desert, like the 76 00:04:27,200 --> 00:04:29,599 Speaker 4: last thing you'd ever expect, And that's always been sort 77 00:04:29,640 --> 00:04:32,760 Speaker 4: of his thing. And I also know he always told 78 00:04:32,760 --> 00:04:35,960 Speaker 4: me that the movie South Pacific, you know, that really 79 00:04:35,960 --> 00:04:37,919 Speaker 4: inspired him. So it'd be fun to ask. 80 00:04:37,760 --> 00:04:38,279 Speaker 2: Him about that. 81 00:04:38,400 --> 00:04:39,279 Speaker 4: I think it'd be cool. 82 00:04:39,480 --> 00:04:41,600 Speaker 5: Yeah, I think we should take a shot at him 83 00:04:41,600 --> 00:04:43,080 Speaker 5: and get him on again. 84 00:04:43,920 --> 00:04:44,640 Speaker 2: Yeah. 85 00:04:44,720 --> 00:04:48,279 Speaker 4: And then also, we didn't have time to talk about 86 00:04:48,320 --> 00:04:50,560 Speaker 4: what you did to he and I and Monte Carlo, 87 00:04:50,640 --> 00:04:53,560 Speaker 4: which was cruel but funny. 88 00:04:54,600 --> 00:04:56,520 Speaker 5: He didn't think it was so you didn't think it 89 00:04:56,600 --> 00:04:57,359 Speaker 5: was so funny. 90 00:04:57,640 --> 00:04:59,040 Speaker 4: No, I didn't like it, all of it. 91 00:04:59,560 --> 00:05:02,000 Speaker 5: Everybody, You'll never you you know what you want to 92 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:04,600 Speaker 5: tell everybody? How do you guys? You've ever had an argument? 93 00:05:04,680 --> 00:05:07,640 Speaker 5: You and Skip? I said, you know what, We've never 94 00:05:07,960 --> 00:05:13,400 Speaker 5: ever had an argument because Skip is very, very very 95 00:05:13,440 --> 00:05:15,839 Speaker 5: smart and I'm always right. 96 00:05:20,400 --> 00:05:21,520 Speaker 2: The perfect combination. 97 00:05:22,360 --> 00:05:26,680 Speaker 5: There you go. Okay, let's let's take a shot at 98 00:05:26,800 --> 00:05:27,480 Speaker 5: let's get them. 99 00:05:27,600 --> 00:05:30,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, let's do it. Okay, you remember what you had 100 00:05:30,800 --> 00:05:34,119 Speaker 4: for breakfast as well as you remember the rockabilities think thinking, 101 00:05:34,160 --> 00:05:37,520 Speaker 4: I'm thinking. So you always can remember everything, but you 102 00:05:37,560 --> 00:05:40,240 Speaker 4: can no longer guarantee same day delivery, right. 103 00:05:40,200 --> 00:05:43,719 Speaker 5: No, I can't. It's very very eclectic day delivery are out. 104 00:05:43,600 --> 00:05:47,560 Speaker 2: Here is not very well. I'll you. 105 00:05:57,440 --> 00:05:59,680 Speaker 3: And look at the way you've changed everything. I mean 106 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:04,320 Speaker 3: with the Mirage that was the first absolute game changer. 107 00:06:04,480 --> 00:06:08,880 Speaker 3: Was what seven hundred million dollars and changed everything with 108 00:06:08,920 --> 00:06:11,400 Speaker 3: the Mirage became a place where everybody had to see it. 109 00:06:11,400 --> 00:06:14,200 Speaker 3: It was a musty attraction. Didn't matter where they were staying, 110 00:06:14,560 --> 00:06:16,719 Speaker 3: if they were in Las Vegas, they had to come. 111 00:06:17,000 --> 00:06:19,160 Speaker 2: It was the first three thousand room hotel on earth 112 00:06:19,760 --> 00:06:20,320 Speaker 2: in the. 113 00:06:20,279 --> 00:06:23,000 Speaker 3: World, and a level of quality that had never been 114 00:06:23,040 --> 00:06:26,920 Speaker 3: seen in the town. And then with the Belagio getting 115 00:06:26,960 --> 00:06:30,159 Speaker 3: to the next level after that, in a town that 116 00:06:30,360 --> 00:06:33,080 Speaker 3: was known for no good places to eat and no 117 00:06:33,720 --> 00:06:37,080 Speaker 3: really no good shopping, turned it around to a place 118 00:06:37,200 --> 00:06:41,599 Speaker 3: that where Las Vegas became a culinary capital and where 119 00:06:41,640 --> 00:06:45,960 Speaker 3: every major retailer in America had to have an outpost 120 00:06:46,640 --> 00:06:50,320 Speaker 3: in Las Vegas. The changes you know, not to be 121 00:06:50,360 --> 00:06:54,520 Speaker 3: a sick event, but the changes that all stemmed from 122 00:06:54,560 --> 00:06:55,440 Speaker 3: your creative jo. 123 00:06:58,520 --> 00:07:00,240 Speaker 2: It was like being a football team. 124 00:07:00,279 --> 00:07:02,159 Speaker 1: He was the big dreamer that came in and change. 125 00:07:02,200 --> 00:07:05,159 Speaker 2: I was I called a play I was like a quarterback. Yeah, 126 00:07:05,360 --> 00:07:08,200 Speaker 2: but we had we had all pro wide receivers and 127 00:07:08,320 --> 00:07:11,880 Speaker 2: running backs and the defensive and offensive line. The team 128 00:07:11,920 --> 00:07:15,440 Speaker 2: that got together. You know, once we started having good 129 00:07:15,440 --> 00:07:19,640 Speaker 2: taste and imagination, A lot of people with good tastes 130 00:07:19,640 --> 00:07:22,600 Speaker 2: and imagination want to join up, and you end up 131 00:07:22,600 --> 00:07:25,800 Speaker 2: with a gang, a really wonderful group. And it only 132 00:07:25,920 --> 00:07:30,120 Speaker 2: takes eight or nine people like that, maybe six or 133 00:07:30,120 --> 00:07:34,200 Speaker 2: eight people, and you got You got Gangbusters. It's great. 134 00:07:34,280 --> 00:07:35,559 Speaker 2: You can really go to town. 135 00:07:35,920 --> 00:07:38,040 Speaker 3: But I would see you sitting in that design center 136 00:07:38,480 --> 00:07:43,239 Speaker 3: hour after hour, agonizing over the font for the men's 137 00:07:43,280 --> 00:07:46,800 Speaker 3: room sign, sitting originally with Joel Bergman and then later 138 00:07:46,920 --> 00:07:47,800 Speaker 3: the writer Butler. 139 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:48,400 Speaker 2: That's right. 140 00:07:48,560 --> 00:07:50,360 Speaker 3: I never really thought of you. This is going to 141 00:07:50,400 --> 00:07:52,840 Speaker 3: sound funny. I never really thought of you as a 142 00:07:52,960 --> 00:07:55,200 Speaker 3: developer in the true sense of the word, because a 143 00:07:55,280 --> 00:07:57,080 Speaker 3: developer is a guy that has to go out and 144 00:07:57,080 --> 00:07:59,800 Speaker 3: get the entitlements, the right to build all that. You 145 00:07:59,840 --> 00:08:02,960 Speaker 3: were a designer. You had this vision where you had 146 00:08:03,720 --> 00:08:07,720 Speaker 3: your imagination that big. Yeah, no one could compare, and 147 00:08:07,760 --> 00:08:11,760 Speaker 3: you changed the town. You totally changed the town. And 148 00:08:11,760 --> 00:08:14,760 Speaker 3: then everybody else when you up to your game, you 149 00:08:14,920 --> 00:08:17,920 Speaker 3: forced the other operators in town to up their game. 150 00:08:18,400 --> 00:08:20,640 Speaker 3: That's the reason they did it because they had to 151 00:08:20,720 --> 00:08:23,920 Speaker 3: otherwise they would just get taken under by this tsunami 152 00:08:24,000 --> 00:08:26,720 Speaker 3: that you had created. So everybody then had to do 153 00:08:26,840 --> 00:08:27,720 Speaker 3: something great, and. 154 00:08:27,680 --> 00:08:30,320 Speaker 1: They sat by thinking he was never going to make it. 155 00:08:30,400 --> 00:08:33,040 Speaker 2: No, it wasn't that easy, no question. If you guys 156 00:08:33,120 --> 00:08:37,480 Speaker 2: look and people listening to this conversation, you think of 157 00:08:37,600 --> 00:08:41,960 Speaker 2: modern Las Vegas with all of the massive developments up 158 00:08:41,960 --> 00:08:44,600 Speaker 2: and down the strip. Some of them are part of 159 00:08:44,800 --> 00:08:48,319 Speaker 2: Blage and Mirage and win resorts. I think we did 160 00:08:48,360 --> 00:08:51,640 Speaker 2: five of them. But I can tell you the moment 161 00:08:52,360 --> 00:08:57,120 Speaker 2: there actually was a moment where modern Las Vegas was born, 162 00:08:57,640 --> 00:09:00,000 Speaker 2: like a like a big bang theory of the universe. 163 00:09:00,920 --> 00:09:04,040 Speaker 2: I can track it to the to a two day period. 164 00:09:05,320 --> 00:09:08,840 Speaker 2: You know, it was what it was up until you know, 165 00:09:08,920 --> 00:09:11,880 Speaker 2: we did a great job downtown and we made money 166 00:09:11,920 --> 00:09:14,520 Speaker 2: in the Atlantic cities, sold it and came home and 167 00:09:14,559 --> 00:09:17,559 Speaker 2: we got our hands on the property that is now 168 00:09:17,640 --> 00:09:23,880 Speaker 2: Treasure Outland and Blajio and Mirage, and we had money 169 00:09:23,960 --> 00:09:27,000 Speaker 2: from that we had made by selling the Atlantic City Place, 170 00:09:27,720 --> 00:09:32,000 Speaker 2: and I bought the property from Howard Hughes's nephew that 171 00:09:32,160 --> 00:09:35,400 Speaker 2: was Hughes's and now we were on our way. With 172 00:09:35,480 --> 00:09:38,120 Speaker 2: the help of Mike Milkin and Trexel Burnham, we could 173 00:09:38,160 --> 00:09:42,080 Speaker 2: design a new hotel. And there were hotels that had 174 00:09:42,080 --> 00:09:46,800 Speaker 2: fifteen hundred rooms, the Hilton and MGM. It was big hotels, 175 00:09:46,800 --> 00:09:51,800 Speaker 2: fifteen hundred rooms and they had and Caesar's Palace had 176 00:09:51,840 --> 00:09:57,079 Speaker 2: twelve hundred rooms. And the Hilton was convention business. MGM 177 00:09:57,200 --> 00:10:03,000 Speaker 2: was touring travel and slot machines. Caesar's Palace was big fights, 178 00:10:03,400 --> 00:10:07,680 Speaker 2: glamorous entertainment, you know, the next generation after the Sands. 179 00:10:08,400 --> 00:10:10,520 Speaker 2: And although they had twelve hundred rooms, they made more 180 00:10:10,559 --> 00:10:13,080 Speaker 2: money than the other two. But each of these three 181 00:10:13,120 --> 00:10:16,400 Speaker 2: programs was different. I came up with the idea with 182 00:10:16,440 --> 00:10:18,200 Speaker 2: my colleagues that we were going to build a three 183 00:10:18,240 --> 00:10:21,240 Speaker 2: thousand room hotel. We were going to have the glamour 184 00:10:21,400 --> 00:10:25,760 Speaker 2: and the fanciness and the imagination of Caesar's Roman theme. 185 00:10:25,840 --> 00:10:29,559 Speaker 2: We're going to do tropical, but we were going to 186 00:10:29,640 --> 00:10:32,640 Speaker 2: have convention space like Hilton. We're gonna have the amount 187 00:10:32,640 --> 00:10:35,280 Speaker 2: of rooms in the shops of an MGM. We're going 188 00:10:35,360 --> 00:10:38,760 Speaker 2: to combine all three ideas in a modern hotel. And 189 00:10:38,800 --> 00:10:40,520 Speaker 2: that was a town where no one had ever spent 190 00:10:40,559 --> 00:10:43,440 Speaker 2: more than one hundred million or sixty million to build anything, 191 00:10:44,240 --> 00:10:46,840 Speaker 2: and we were going to spend north of a half 192 00:10:46,920 --> 00:10:50,800 Speaker 2: a billion, six hundred and fifty million dollars. And we 193 00:10:50,880 --> 00:10:53,720 Speaker 2: had some money from New Jersey. We had a couple 194 00:10:53,760 --> 00:10:56,280 Speaker 2: hundred million that we had made, and we're going to 195 00:10:56,320 --> 00:10:59,760 Speaker 2: borrow money from Drexel Burnham. And we just sat down 196 00:10:59,840 --> 00:11:04,600 Speaker 2: and decided how to I remember, I remember I had 197 00:11:04,600 --> 00:11:09,280 Speaker 2: a two seater Mercedes two EIGHTYSL that was powder blue, 198 00:11:10,600 --> 00:11:12,400 Speaker 2: and we had just finished by in the land and 199 00:11:12,480 --> 00:11:15,880 Speaker 2: it was time to start dreaming up the Golden Nugget 200 00:11:15,880 --> 00:11:19,320 Speaker 2: Strip Hotel. We didn't ever mirage name yet and I 201 00:11:19,360 --> 00:11:21,880 Speaker 2: took it was a beautiful day, and I drove out 202 00:11:21,880 --> 00:11:24,840 Speaker 2: to the Sands, which was across the street, the original Sands, 203 00:11:25,360 --> 00:11:29,559 Speaker 2: and I knew the Valet Parkers for several years. This 204 00:11:29,760 --> 00:11:32,120 Speaker 2: I stave as I can, I park my car right 205 00:11:32,160 --> 00:11:35,280 Speaker 2: here by the sidewalk. The Porkershire came out and the 206 00:11:35,280 --> 00:11:38,520 Speaker 2: column that held up the end of the porkersheare was 207 00:11:38,600 --> 00:11:41,720 Speaker 2: right next to the sidewalk, and I pulled in and 208 00:11:41,760 --> 00:11:45,480 Speaker 2: I parked next to the column that was next close 209 00:11:45,520 --> 00:11:48,280 Speaker 2: to the sidewalk, and I got out of the car 210 00:11:48,600 --> 00:11:52,319 Speaker 2: and I sat The top was down, and I sat 211 00:11:52,400 --> 00:11:57,559 Speaker 2: on the left front hood above the headlight, my feet 212 00:11:57,559 --> 00:12:00,520 Speaker 2: on the ground, my butt against the car, looking across 213 00:12:00,559 --> 00:12:03,800 Speaker 2: the street at the property that I had just closed on, 214 00:12:04,200 --> 00:12:07,440 Speaker 2: which included a Castaways motel that was closed there wasn't 215 00:12:07,480 --> 00:12:10,920 Speaker 2: have to be torn down, some empty property, and then 216 00:12:11,679 --> 00:12:15,640 Speaker 2: two service stations, a souvenir joint, a budget renner car, 217 00:12:17,160 --> 00:12:20,240 Speaker 2: and a home owned by a woman named Bracy Hayes 218 00:12:20,280 --> 00:12:22,719 Speaker 2: that was in an old folks home. But she had 219 00:12:22,760 --> 00:12:26,760 Speaker 2: owned that house and for some reason preserved it and 220 00:12:26,800 --> 00:12:28,880 Speaker 2: the Hughes people could never get their hands on it. 221 00:12:29,160 --> 00:12:31,600 Speaker 2: But they did own the empty land and they owned 222 00:12:31,600 --> 00:12:36,000 Speaker 2: the Castaways, and I had bought that from Howard Hughes's nephew. 223 00:12:36,679 --> 00:12:39,920 Speaker 2: And I'm sitting on the car, my arms crossed on 224 00:12:39,960 --> 00:12:42,960 Speaker 2: my chest on the hood, saying what are we going 225 00:12:43,040 --> 00:12:46,720 Speaker 2: to do? Okay, here you are. You got a big 226 00:12:46,760 --> 00:12:50,320 Speaker 2: fat strip location. Turns out to be big enough for 227 00:12:50,360 --> 00:12:54,560 Speaker 2: two hotels. But what are you going to do? Perfect 228 00:12:54,640 --> 00:12:59,440 Speaker 2: pristine moment? Now, what you're gonna do? The night before 229 00:12:59,600 --> 00:13:02,320 Speaker 2: I had been watching Johnny Carson before I went to bed, 230 00:13:03,240 --> 00:13:05,560 Speaker 2: lay in bed and watch Johnny Carson, and he had 231 00:13:05,600 --> 00:13:09,040 Speaker 2: Neil Simon on as a guest that wrote all those 232 00:13:09,080 --> 00:13:13,520 Speaker 2: great comedies. And he said to Neil Simon, how do 233 00:13:13,559 --> 00:13:15,120 Speaker 2: you how do you make how do you why do 234 00:13:15,160 --> 00:13:19,120 Speaker 2: you write that humor? How do you write that comedy? Neil? 235 00:13:20,040 --> 00:13:22,400 Speaker 2: And Neil Simon was like mister Rogers, he was very 236 00:13:22,400 --> 00:13:27,640 Speaker 2: prefatorial kind of izers. Well, Johnny, I look for conflict 237 00:13:27,920 --> 00:13:31,839 Speaker 2: because the tension created by conflict gives you a rise 238 00:13:31,960 --> 00:13:37,200 Speaker 2: for humor and of course tragedy as well. And going 239 00:13:37,240 --> 00:13:43,400 Speaker 2: to bed saying yeah, tension, conflict creates tension. What you're seeing, 240 00:13:43,520 --> 00:13:47,960 Speaker 2: what you what's your mind tells you're looking at? I 241 00:13:48,000 --> 00:13:51,520 Speaker 2: went to sleep. And I's always been a nut about 242 00:13:51,559 --> 00:13:55,200 Speaker 2: Broadway musicals, and I love South Pacific, and I had 243 00:13:55,240 --> 00:13:59,199 Speaker 2: seen the movie South Pacific. And in the movie South Pacific, 244 00:14:01,320 --> 00:14:05,760 Speaker 2: Lieutenant Cable lands on the island on his mission and 245 00:14:05,800 --> 00:14:08,880 Speaker 2: he's walking up the beach. He bumps into Bloody Mary 246 00:14:09,600 --> 00:14:14,400 Speaker 2: played by Juanita Hall, and she sees this handsome lieutenant. 247 00:14:14,760 --> 00:14:20,920 Speaker 2: She calls him lieutenant and thinks he's handsome, and he says, hello, Lieutenant, 248 00:14:21,320 --> 00:14:25,080 Speaker 2: you're very handsome. And he says hello, and she says, 249 00:14:25,120 --> 00:14:29,840 Speaker 2: I'm a bloody Mary. And she's a Tunkanese, heavy set, 250 00:14:30,320 --> 00:14:34,520 Speaker 2: you know, pear shaped woman, not very attractive. And she's 251 00:14:34,600 --> 00:14:38,160 Speaker 2: decided that she wants to fix up Lieutenant Lieutenant Cable 252 00:14:38,960 --> 00:14:42,040 Speaker 2: with her daughter, who's over on a neighboring island called 253 00:14:42,080 --> 00:14:46,640 Speaker 2: bally High. And she said, Lieutenant, you'll see this bally High, 254 00:14:47,360 --> 00:14:51,920 Speaker 2: very beautiful. You could go there, I take you. He's 255 00:14:52,000 --> 00:14:56,600 Speaker 2: there in a mission to fight the Japanese. This a 256 00:14:56,640 --> 00:15:01,120 Speaker 2: World War two movie. And then in order to wh 257 00:15:01,480 --> 00:15:04,280 Speaker 2: she says to him, look look at bally High, a 258 00:15:04,280 --> 00:15:11,560 Speaker 2: little talent look island of dreams. And she sings, come 259 00:15:11,600 --> 00:15:16,840 Speaker 2: to me, bally High, bally High, your island dreams or whatever. 260 00:15:17,160 --> 00:15:20,600 Speaker 2: He just starts singing the beautiful song from South Pacific 261 00:15:21,360 --> 00:15:26,360 Speaker 2: called your own special island, bally High. And as as 262 00:15:26,400 --> 00:15:29,760 Speaker 2: she's singing this beautiful song with full orchestration, you see 263 00:15:29,800 --> 00:15:34,320 Speaker 2: this gorgeous island a mile or two away, And the 264 00:15:34,360 --> 00:15:37,480 Speaker 2: director Josh logan used too many orange filters, so it 265 00:15:37,600 --> 00:15:43,240 Speaker 2: almost this sultry red heat of the afternoon makes it 266 00:15:43,280 --> 00:15:46,280 Speaker 2: look like it's almost on fire. It's beautiful with this 267 00:15:46,320 --> 00:15:52,800 Speaker 2: beautiful song. Come to me, Bally Eye. And for some reason, 268 00:15:53,600 --> 00:15:57,080 Speaker 2: I'm sitting on that damn Mercedes hood and I'm looking 269 00:15:57,120 --> 00:16:03,040 Speaker 2: at the castaways and and the thing from from Doc 270 00:16:03,880 --> 00:16:08,480 Speaker 2: you know, from the Night Before from Johnny Carson Show. 271 00:16:10,360 --> 00:16:19,359 Speaker 2: I say, Bali Eye a dream, Isle of dreams. Suppose 272 00:16:20,680 --> 00:16:24,840 Speaker 2: what you see with your eyes is in complete contradiction 273 00:16:25,000 --> 00:16:28,560 Speaker 2: of what your brain. This is the harsh Southern about 274 00:16:28,600 --> 00:16:31,600 Speaker 2: a desert. Hardly anything grows here. It's cold in the winter, 275 00:16:31,720 --> 00:16:35,520 Speaker 2: it's one hundred and seventeen in the heat in the summer. 276 00:16:36,760 --> 00:16:42,200 Speaker 2: Suppose you saw BALIHI suppose you saw a tropical paradise 277 00:16:42,280 --> 00:16:45,280 Speaker 2: South Pacific. And I swear I heard one ay to 278 00:16:45,360 --> 00:16:50,160 Speaker 2: Hall's voice in my ear. It'said a tropical hotel with 279 00:16:50,240 --> 00:16:55,200 Speaker 2: an adream. You could see through the glass the conflict. 280 00:16:55,560 --> 00:16:59,320 Speaker 2: If you stood on a strip and you saw waterfalls 281 00:16:59,520 --> 00:17:02,160 Speaker 2: like in the and like in the South Pacific movie, 282 00:17:03,080 --> 00:17:09,640 Speaker 2: with coconut palms and elephant ears and banana trees, you'd say, 283 00:17:09,640 --> 00:17:12,800 Speaker 2: wait a minute, this is not supposed to be here. 284 00:17:13,640 --> 00:17:18,440 Speaker 2: This is wrong. The conflict between which your brain saw 285 00:17:18,520 --> 00:17:22,120 Speaker 2: and which you thought should be there would create the tension. 286 00:17:23,240 --> 00:17:25,600 Speaker 2: And I said to myself, people would say, we got 287 00:17:25,600 --> 00:17:27,720 Speaker 2: to go inside and see what this place is all about. 288 00:17:28,720 --> 00:17:31,159 Speaker 2: And at that moment is when I dreamt up the 289 00:17:31,200 --> 00:17:33,960 Speaker 2: Mirage and went and told my colleagues, and everybody got 290 00:17:33,960 --> 00:17:36,000 Speaker 2: into it, and all but everybody started coming up with 291 00:17:36,000 --> 00:17:42,320 Speaker 2: great ideas, and the Mirage got designed, and we're spending 292 00:17:42,400 --> 00:17:45,960 Speaker 2: six hundred and fifty million, and the Wall Street Journal 293 00:17:46,000 --> 00:17:49,440 Speaker 2: and the Forbes magazine and our competitors up and down 294 00:17:49,480 --> 00:17:52,879 Speaker 2: the strip said, ah, the six hundred and fifty million. 295 00:17:52,960 --> 00:17:55,200 Speaker 2: His overhead's going to be a million dollars a day. 296 00:17:55,280 --> 00:17:58,000 Speaker 2: He'll never make it because nobody had an overhead like that. 297 00:17:58,480 --> 00:18:02,119 Speaker 2: There used to be two three hundred thous in expenses 298 00:18:02,200 --> 00:18:05,320 Speaker 2: a day. We actually were going to be a million 299 00:18:05,400 --> 00:18:09,840 Speaker 2: one a day. And they wrote articles that the Mirage 300 00:18:09,960 --> 00:18:14,840 Speaker 2: was going to be the great bankruptcy. But it also 301 00:18:15,040 --> 00:18:18,840 Speaker 2: is a question, is the demand for Las Vegas so 302 00:18:18,880 --> 00:18:24,399 Speaker 2: elastic that that could happen? Are we all living in 303 00:18:24,440 --> 00:18:28,600 Speaker 2: an era where small was good, But the world has 304 00:18:28,680 --> 00:18:32,160 Speaker 2: moved past us is Las Vegas the kind of place 305 00:18:32,200 --> 00:18:34,880 Speaker 2: you can invest a half a billion or a billion dollars. 306 00:18:36,680 --> 00:18:40,160 Speaker 2: When we first showed the model of Mirage at the 307 00:18:40,160 --> 00:18:43,320 Speaker 2: Golden Nugget downtown, it was called the Golden Nugget Strip property. 308 00:18:44,800 --> 00:18:47,440 Speaker 2: I said, when this place gets built. We had a 309 00:18:47,440 --> 00:18:51,359 Speaker 2: press conference and it's on tape. When this place is 310 00:18:51,400 --> 00:18:56,560 Speaker 2: built in three years, its most famous contribution will not 311 00:18:56,640 --> 00:18:59,840 Speaker 2: be that it's a great place it makes money. It will, 312 00:19:00,000 --> 00:19:02,200 Speaker 2: but it's going to show the world that Las Vegas 313 00:19:02,200 --> 00:19:05,399 Speaker 2: can take that kind of money and the demand for 314 00:19:05,520 --> 00:19:09,040 Speaker 2: Las Vegas is elastic that it won't scavenge the other 315 00:19:09,080 --> 00:19:12,600 Speaker 2: hotels that'll bring more people to Las Vegas. And I 316 00:19:12,680 --> 00:19:15,879 Speaker 2: did go on record at the opening reveal of the 317 00:19:15,920 --> 00:19:19,000 Speaker 2: model downtown at the Golden Nugget that that's what I 318 00:19:19,040 --> 00:19:23,040 Speaker 2: thought would happen. Well, as I say, they watched it 319 00:19:23,080 --> 00:19:28,479 Speaker 2: go up, massive place on sixty acres eighty acres, and 320 00:19:29,200 --> 00:19:32,720 Speaker 2: the whole world was it'll never make it. The overhead, 321 00:19:32,880 --> 00:19:34,240 Speaker 2: the word got out that it was going to be 322 00:19:34,280 --> 00:19:36,840 Speaker 2: a million over a million dollars a day to break even, 323 00:19:37,960 --> 00:19:40,280 Speaker 2: seven days a week, three hundred and sixty five days 324 00:19:40,320 --> 00:19:46,280 Speaker 2: a year. Well, the time came The opening was November 325 00:19:46,320 --> 00:19:51,639 Speaker 2: twenty second Wednesday, the anniversary of Kennedy's assassination. Actually nineteen 326 00:19:51,680 --> 00:19:54,480 Speaker 2: eighty nine. November twenty second noon on a Wednesday was 327 00:19:54,520 --> 00:19:56,760 Speaker 2: going to be the opening. We were going to reveal 328 00:19:57,560 --> 00:19:59,879 Speaker 2: nobody was allowed in accept workmen in this and the 329 00:20:00,040 --> 00:20:04,960 Speaker 2: people hired, but there was an idea that something extraordinary 330 00:20:05,040 --> 00:20:07,240 Speaker 2: was in this building that was done at a scale 331 00:20:07,240 --> 00:20:10,320 Speaker 2: it was different. A whole bunch of us had done 332 00:20:10,359 --> 00:20:14,480 Speaker 2: our best work there. Really talented people contributed to making 333 00:20:14,520 --> 00:20:16,920 Speaker 2: that place what it was. Plus we had Sigfried and 334 00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:23,639 Speaker 2: Roy and white tigers and elephants. Well, we had the 335 00:20:24,400 --> 00:20:27,480 Speaker 2: street roped off, and the press was that we're going 336 00:20:27,520 --> 00:20:29,800 Speaker 2: to have a secret We're going to open the hotel 337 00:20:30,520 --> 00:20:34,240 Speaker 2: by checking in our first secret guest to the hotel. 338 00:20:34,920 --> 00:20:37,080 Speaker 2: And they had ropes down on the sidewalk so you 339 00:20:37,080 --> 00:20:40,119 Speaker 2: couldn't come up the driveway, and we had the cameras 340 00:20:40,160 --> 00:20:44,480 Speaker 2: there and the governor and other VIPs. Mike Milkan was there. 341 00:20:46,600 --> 00:20:50,520 Speaker 2: We were going to welcome the first check in mystery guest, 342 00:20:51,840 --> 00:20:53,960 Speaker 2: and then we were going to open up the drop 343 00:20:54,040 --> 00:20:58,760 Speaker 2: the barricades and let them come. And here's what happened. 344 00:21:00,440 --> 00:21:06,400 Speaker 2: A rolls Royce pulled up convertible with Siegfried and roy 345 00:21:06,480 --> 00:21:09,440 Speaker 2: in the front seat and two white tigers in the 346 00:21:09,520 --> 00:21:12,560 Speaker 2: back seat, and they got out of the car with 347 00:21:12,840 --> 00:21:21,679 Speaker 2: Acbarkabul and Neva, two giant white tigers with leashes, and 348 00:21:21,760 --> 00:21:25,080 Speaker 2: walked into the hotel, shook hands with us and took 349 00:21:25,119 --> 00:21:28,359 Speaker 2: the animals into there that no one knew if we 350 00:21:28,400 --> 00:21:32,000 Speaker 2: had them on display, and we welcomed our new guests. 351 00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:36,720 Speaker 2: We're two white tigers. And then I had a handheld 352 00:21:36,800 --> 00:21:43,840 Speaker 2: mic and I said, security opened the gates, dropped the ropes. Well, 353 00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:47,560 Speaker 2: the governor, Mike Milkan, and I and David Hersey, who 354 00:21:47,560 --> 00:21:49,919 Speaker 2: had been the landscape architect that did all the trees 355 00:21:49,960 --> 00:21:54,920 Speaker 2: in front and all the waterfall. They ran from both driveways, 356 00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:57,640 Speaker 2: you know, it was a circular driveway. In the lead 357 00:21:57,880 --> 00:22:02,040 Speaker 2: were young kids that could run, asked, but there were 358 00:22:02,560 --> 00:22:05,840 Speaker 2: tens of thousands of people all the way up the strip, 359 00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:08,639 Speaker 2: and they came running and we were right in the middle, 360 00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:11,000 Speaker 2: and I said, oh my god, they're not going to stop. 361 00:22:11,640 --> 00:22:14,280 Speaker 2: But they had also roped off. We were standing, and 362 00:22:14,320 --> 00:22:16,400 Speaker 2: they got to the rope and they all just stopped 363 00:22:16,560 --> 00:22:19,879 Speaker 2: so we could make remarks. But for a second we 364 00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:23,159 Speaker 2: thought we were going to get trampled. Well, seventy thousand 365 00:22:23,240 --> 00:22:25,920 Speaker 2: people went through the hotel the first day. It was awful. 366 00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:30,280 Speaker 2: You couldn't move. Women came with strollers. It was I stopped. 367 00:22:30,280 --> 00:22:33,400 Speaker 2: I stopped the strollers after the first day. But seventy 368 00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:38,800 Speaker 2: thousand people the first twenty four hours. Now Wall Street 369 00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:42,080 Speaker 2: and the financial community wouldn't know if if we're the 370 00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:45,440 Speaker 2: last week in November, we're going to have a short 371 00:22:45,520 --> 00:22:48,320 Speaker 2: report for the end of the year, and then we'll 372 00:22:48,359 --> 00:22:51,280 Speaker 2: publish those earnings at the end of January, no one's 373 00:22:51,280 --> 00:22:54,159 Speaker 2: going to know anything about numbers or financial success or not. 374 00:22:55,400 --> 00:23:00,800 Speaker 2: But in Las Vegas the night that the opened on 375 00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:06,960 Speaker 2: Wednesday night, by midday on Thursday, every executive at every 376 00:23:07,040 --> 00:23:10,919 Speaker 2: one of the other properties on the strip knew everything 377 00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:15,600 Speaker 2: about the Mirage. Number one food and beverage guys talked 378 00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:20,639 Speaker 2: to other food and beverage guys. Casino executives talk to 379 00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:23,639 Speaker 2: other casino executives. You know, the hotel guy talks to 380 00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:26,960 Speaker 2: the other hotel guy. So they're all talking to each other, 381 00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:29,359 Speaker 2: these pals that work at these different hotels. They're saying 382 00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:32,840 Speaker 2: every room is booked, that we every room has been 383 00:23:32,840 --> 00:23:35,520 Speaker 2: booked for almost thirty days already the prices are one 384 00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:37,600 Speaker 2: hundred and fifty dollars a day more than we thought. 385 00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:41,280 Speaker 2: You can't get a space of a slot machine. The 386 00:23:41,320 --> 00:23:48,239 Speaker 2: crap tables are overrun. And everybody in the business in 387 00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:53,800 Speaker 2: Las Vegas knew within twenty four hours that Las Vegas 388 00:23:53,840 --> 00:23:56,760 Speaker 2: had turned the corner and that if you build it, 389 00:23:56,840 --> 00:24:01,560 Speaker 2: they would come. The Mirage did that, and within a 390 00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:07,119 Speaker 2: week the price of real estate, the adjacent lands on 391 00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:10,840 Speaker 2: every hotel had doubled because every one of those CEOs 392 00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:13,639 Speaker 2: up and down the street knew that they had to 393 00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:17,040 Speaker 2: expand that the Mirage was going to take it away 394 00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:20,159 Speaker 2: from him, or the Mirage was going to show that 395 00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:23,040 Speaker 2: there was so much money left on the table. If 396 00:24:23,080 --> 00:24:26,240 Speaker 2: you built it in Las Vegas, the world would show up. 397 00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:30,520 Speaker 2: And the Mirage actually had the market grow by twenty percent. 398 00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:34,480 Speaker 2: One hotel did that. We were supposed to make a 399 00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:36,600 Speaker 2: hundred you know, we lose money or go broke, but 400 00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:39,479 Speaker 2: our own numbers showed that we'd make one hundred and 401 00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:42,679 Speaker 2: forty to one hundred and sixty million dollars on the 402 00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:46,600 Speaker 2: six hundred and fifty million dollar investment. Pretty fancy. We 403 00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:49,960 Speaker 2: went right to two hundred and twenty five million. The 404 00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:52,800 Speaker 2: world loved it, and it was the late eighties early 405 00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:56,960 Speaker 2: nineties when the Japanese were in the country. So Mirage 406 00:24:57,040 --> 00:25:00,400 Speaker 2: opened up just at the right time, just the right 407 00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:04,440 Speaker 2: moment in the history of Las Vegas, for Las Vegas 408 00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:06,919 Speaker 2: to take its next step. If it hadn't been me 409 00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:10,480 Speaker 2: and my crowd, my game, it would have been someone else. 410 00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:14,240 Speaker 2: But we were at the right place at the right time, 411 00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:17,480 Speaker 2: and that was the moment. The modern Las Vegas was 412 00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:21,320 Speaker 2: born in the last week in November of nineteen eighty nine, 413 00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:26,119 Speaker 2: and during the nineteen nineties, four billion was spent and 414 00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:29,080 Speaker 2: the town lent from eighteen thousand rooms to one hundred 415 00:25:29,119 --> 00:25:33,119 Speaker 2: and fifty forty thousand rooms in ten years. And between 416 00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:36,159 Speaker 2: nineteen seventy two and nineteen eighty nine, nothing but the 417 00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:41,280 Speaker 2: Mirage had been built. And then in the next eight 418 00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:47,040 Speaker 2: years it culminated with we did Treasure Island three thousand rooms, 419 00:25:47,520 --> 00:25:51,240 Speaker 2: we did Blagio three thousand rooms, but so did the 420 00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:55,600 Speaker 2: other guys, and that's how what you see in Las 421 00:25:55,720 --> 00:26:00,080 Speaker 2: Vegas today came about. But there were seventeen years where nothing. 422 00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:14,840 Speaker 3: In the past year, probably the most dynamic thing to 423 00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:19,080 Speaker 3: happen in Las Vegas was the F one race this 424 00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:23,040 Speaker 3: past fall, and of super and in the nineteen nineties, 425 00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:27,240 Speaker 3: the mid nineteen nineties, you, Paul Ank and I went 426 00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:29,800 Speaker 3: to Monte Carlo because you had an idea. 427 00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:31,600 Speaker 2: Terrible thing you did, Paul. 428 00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:34,040 Speaker 3: You had you had an idea to bring the F 429 00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:37,680 Speaker 3: one to Las Vegas and you wanted to have if 430 00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:40,639 Speaker 3: you recall, the finish line was going to be the 431 00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:41,320 Speaker 3: port Coashier. 432 00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:43,520 Speaker 2: You're going to come up and make of the Bolagio 433 00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:45,200 Speaker 2: like when you go through the town in money. 434 00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:48,399 Speaker 3: And we got we got on on the plane and 435 00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:51,960 Speaker 3: we went there and you at that time were very 436 00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:56,280 Speaker 3: interested in having an audience with Prince Renier to talk 437 00:26:56,320 --> 00:26:58,600 Speaker 3: to him about their casinis, their gaming. 438 00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:02,120 Speaker 2: And Paul he asked to see us because yeah, yeah, 439 00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:04,480 Speaker 2: he had come and stayed at them. 440 00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:07,760 Speaker 3: At Paul will let you pick up Bobby. 441 00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:09,639 Speaker 2: There was three of us that when. 442 00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:15,000 Speaker 1: I think Bobby went, we stayed at the Hotel de Peri. 443 00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:17,399 Speaker 2: For the audience to say Bobby Baldwin was one of 444 00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:20,640 Speaker 2: the key executives that ran our business. 445 00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:27,679 Speaker 1: You know, and we go over and we're being treated royally. Obviously, 446 00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:31,840 Speaker 1: everybody's happy. Steve is there we're looking forward to meeting 447 00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:33,080 Speaker 1: with Bernie Ecklestone. 448 00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:37,679 Speaker 2: I think the guy who owned them had given us 449 00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:38,879 Speaker 2: his suite at the hotel. 450 00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:41,560 Speaker 1: The hotel and I was sitting around one day and 451 00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:44,439 Speaker 1: I'm saying, okay, this is a little too quiet for me. 452 00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:48,680 Speaker 1: We're waiting to go to the events. We'd already gone 453 00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:50,919 Speaker 1: around the track with schu Macher. Remember he put us 454 00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:54,080 Speaker 1: in the car. So we did our thing. So I 455 00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:57,760 Speaker 1: picked up the phone and I called up. 456 00:27:59,160 --> 00:27:59,960 Speaker 2: Treacherous sent them. 457 00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:05,199 Speaker 1: I called up Skip, this is mister Bronson, This is 458 00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:09,720 Speaker 1: Henry L. Lewis over at the palace. We are honored 459 00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:12,200 Speaker 1: that you are here with us, you and mister Vinn, 460 00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:16,359 Speaker 1: and we wanted to just let you know that the 461 00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:21,560 Speaker 1: Prince is very interested in meeting mister Vinn over here 462 00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:26,959 Speaker 1: at a private, private, little meeting before the cocktail, before 463 00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:30,240 Speaker 1: the cocktail party. And I said, it's very important that 464 00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:32,440 Speaker 1: he'd be here at five point thirty, but in a tuxedo. 465 00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:34,320 Speaker 1: He must be in a tux. 466 00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:37,720 Speaker 2: Sedo explained that when they had the Grand Prix, Prince 467 00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:40,320 Speaker 2: Reinier would have a big cocktail party up at the 468 00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:44,160 Speaker 2: palace on the night before the race, and it was 469 00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:46,600 Speaker 2: a big thing to get invited, right, But that was 470 00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:49,960 Speaker 2: that from six thirty to eight or nine. 471 00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:52,240 Speaker 1: And the meeting was to be before and this for 472 00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:53,200 Speaker 1: the cocktail party. 473 00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:58,720 Speaker 2: The manager, the chief of staff of Prince Reinier calls up, 474 00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:03,080 Speaker 2: going to be but skip catch the call, says the Prince. 475 00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:07,120 Speaker 2: He called skip on purpose. The Prince wants to have 476 00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:10,200 Speaker 2: a private meeting very important with mister Wynn at five 477 00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:13,440 Speaker 2: point thirty before the big cocktail party, and he'd like 478 00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:16,200 Speaker 2: him to come in a tuxedo. Correct, please be at 479 00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:18,400 Speaker 2: the palace at five thirty, Prince Rainier, I would like 480 00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:20,520 Speaker 2: to talk to him, mister Winn and skip. 481 00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:22,640 Speaker 1: You turned him down. He turned me down. 482 00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:27,080 Speaker 2: That's not possible, And I said, he puts on this accent. 483 00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:28,480 Speaker 1: I put my French action. 484 00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:31,160 Speaker 2: Jacques Jacques said, do I'll even tell you the name 485 00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:34,720 Speaker 2: you use. This is Jacques said, with the French accent, 486 00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:37,719 Speaker 2: the chief of staff of the palace for Prince Rainier. 487 00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:41,560 Speaker 3: And I said, you know, mister Wynn has some vision issues, 488 00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:43,440 Speaker 3: so I'm going to have to be with him. And 489 00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:46,560 Speaker 3: they said no, no, no, no, that's not possible. He's going 490 00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:47,880 Speaker 3: to have to be here. It's it's going to be 491 00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:50,800 Speaker 3: one on one. It's going to be Regner and mister 492 00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:53,800 Speaker 3: Wynn and no one else, No one else can be 493 00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:57,000 Speaker 3: with him. I'm thinking, well, why is that. Well, we 494 00:29:57,120 --> 00:30:03,640 Speaker 3: have very special protocol and already, so I called Paul 495 00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:05,640 Speaker 3: and I said, Paul, you're ready for this. There's going 496 00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:07,680 Speaker 3: to be a meeting. Steve's going to have a meeting 497 00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:10,240 Speaker 3: of one on one with Prince Renier. And Paul says, 498 00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:14,400 Speaker 3: you're kidding. It's fantastic. And I walked down the room 499 00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:18,040 Speaker 3: the hall to Steve's sweet and Steve's in there. He's 500 00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:20,880 Speaker 3: putting his tuxedo on. He's getting all ready, the whole thing. 501 00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:25,400 Speaker 3: No tuxedo, I said, I better check and make sure 502 00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:27,719 Speaker 3: you know. I was on the bed in my underwear. No, 503 00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:30,200 Speaker 3: but you were getting ready to get dressed up. So 504 00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:32,200 Speaker 3: I called over to the palace just to make sure 505 00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:36,400 Speaker 3: everything was going to be coordinated properly. And they said, 506 00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:39,040 Speaker 3: there's no one here by that name. And I said, well, 507 00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:40,120 Speaker 3: that's not possible. 508 00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:41,200 Speaker 2: He called. 509 00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:44,360 Speaker 3: I spoke to him myself, Well no, that's not possible, 510 00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:46,520 Speaker 3: and we don't know anything about any meeting. There isn't 511 00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:49,440 Speaker 3: I said, what, No, No, you're not listening you're obviously 512 00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:54,760 Speaker 3: not in the loop. This has been arranged, it's all 513 00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:58,240 Speaker 3: been coordinated. Everything he's been taken care of. You don't 514 00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:00,320 Speaker 3: know who the chief of staff is. Connect it is 515 00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:02,160 Speaker 3: someone who does exactly. 516 00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:06,560 Speaker 1: Meanwhile, I run the Steve's room because I figured this 517 00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:09,040 Speaker 1: has gone too far and you walk in. 518 00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:11,560 Speaker 2: Before they gets off. He gets in an argument with 519 00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:13,920 Speaker 2: the oppers. If you don't know who it is, I 520 00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:16,200 Speaker 2: want to speak to the cheapest staff, Jacques the do 521 00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:19,560 Speaker 2: I've spoken to him. Now put someone on who does 522 00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:22,440 Speaker 2: know what's going on there. The operator is obviously intimidated. 523 00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:29,120 Speaker 2: It works at the palace. Click click, ring ring, hello, Hello, my, 524 00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:31,480 Speaker 2: I'm just get Brian word from mister with mister Wynn 525 00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:33,840 Speaker 2: and we're supposed to have this meeting. We're meeting the 526 00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:36,840 Speaker 2: chief of staff for the Prince Rainier speak a five 527 00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:39,680 Speaker 2: point thirty and I need to get some I need 528 00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:43,320 Speaker 2: to communicate on behalf of mister Wynn. H to the 529 00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:49,480 Speaker 2: chiefest staff, Jacques sad silence of one counter. I am 530 00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:54,320 Speaker 2: the chief of staff of Prince Regnier and there is 531 00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:58,960 Speaker 2: no such person as Jacques said, do in the palace. 532 00:31:59,480 --> 00:31:59,560 Speaker 4: Now. 533 00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:04,120 Speaker 2: This guy is a British naval officer with a straight back, 534 00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:08,000 Speaker 2: no sense of humor, and he must deal with screwballs 535 00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:11,680 Speaker 2: all the time protecting his boss. And he doesn't like 536 00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:17,280 Speaker 2: this phone call. And he tells Skip hisses at him. 537 00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:19,760 Speaker 3: Did he hang up on your did you? He's furious that, 538 00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:22,320 Speaker 3: so I called Paul to tell him what had happened. 539 00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:25,800 Speaker 1: Well, you could know. First I went over to Steve's room. 540 00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:26,680 Speaker 2: He's with me. 541 00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:31,320 Speaker 1: I had decide to mend this again. Right you walked in, 542 00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:34,040 Speaker 1: I'm there with him about to tell me you were 543 00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:37,400 Speaker 1: on the phone with Elaine. As you walk in, Steve, 544 00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:39,920 Speaker 1: I just want to let you know I spoke to 545 00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:42,880 Speaker 1: the palace. I got this guy blah blah blah blah. 546 00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:45,560 Speaker 1: He didn't get it, and I told him you're not 547 00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:48,800 Speaker 1: in the loop, so don't worry. I straightened it out. 548 00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:53,520 Speaker 1: Right now, I'm saying, Skiff, there ain't no meeting. I'm 549 00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:56,280 Speaker 1: sudou forget about it. 550 00:32:56,320 --> 00:33:00,360 Speaker 2: His host, Skip runs and takes a look at Anka. 551 00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:05,040 Speaker 2: I think maybe Paul's life is in danger because he 552 00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:09,240 Speaker 2: had just made such a horse's ass of himself. Well, 553 00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:12,880 Speaker 2: and you're telling me, yeah, I'm on the phone with 554 00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:16,680 Speaker 2: my wife, Paul. Paul says, it's got a guilty look 555 00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:19,560 Speaker 2: in his face that maybe this one spun out of control. 556 00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:23,920 Speaker 2: This ain't like the Chipriani, this was well, there was 557 00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:27,000 Speaker 2: indeed a cocktail party at the palace and we were 558 00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:32,080 Speaker 2: indeed invited, and Renier was looking for us. And we 559 00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:38,320 Speaker 2: end up by the buffet, myself and Paul with Prince 560 00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:42,239 Speaker 2: Renner on this beautiful Saturday night or whatever night it 561 00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:49,080 Speaker 2: was Friday night and having drinks in the open courtyard 562 00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:56,200 Speaker 2: that was beautiful, and Skip walks up and in a 563 00:33:56,240 --> 00:34:01,280 Speaker 2: few minutes I start to tell the story, and a 564 00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:05,880 Speaker 2: guy walks up about six to one, sort of sway back, 565 00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:10,200 Speaker 2: you know, real straight, you know, his back, very British 566 00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:13,560 Speaker 2: looking with the dark suit and the full windsor tie. 567 00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:20,600 Speaker 2: Humorless looking guy like a security garden. Mister Win his 568 00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:27,000 Speaker 2: chief of staff. Ah, And I say, you know, we're 569 00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:29,960 Speaker 2: we're having a giggle for a but a very embarrassing thing. 570 00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:36,160 Speaker 2: We are an apology. But the superstar or whatever it 571 00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:41,000 Speaker 2: decided to have some fun poor mister and played that 572 00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:44,400 Speaker 2: practical joke that caused him to make the call. And 573 00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:47,919 Speaker 2: Reinier and I we lay out what exactly what Paul 574 00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:50,560 Speaker 2: had done, and Rainier is lapping it up and starts laughing. 575 00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:58,440 Speaker 2: This guy has a face like ice, like rock ice season, 576 00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:03,160 Speaker 2: not even not even a curl of a lip. Dead quiet. 577 00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:07,560 Speaker 2: He glares that the three of us like what kind 578 00:35:07,640 --> 00:35:11,839 Speaker 2: of jerks are you guys? And walks away. He did 579 00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:18,960 Speaker 2: not get the joke, did Yeah? 580 00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:21,879 Speaker 1: Till the end of that story, though, Steve, you meet 581 00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:25,399 Speaker 1: with Bernie. You're bringing it to Vegas. This guy's all 582 00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:28,280 Speaker 1: teed up and he flies in to meet you in Vegas, 583 00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:29,040 Speaker 1: and everybody's in. 584 00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:31,239 Speaker 2: The US into the office with six people. 585 00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:33,520 Speaker 1: And meanwhile you got the new shepherd. I ax, I 586 00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:33,960 Speaker 1: think it was. 587 00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:37,200 Speaker 2: Rumbus, and I know it was. It was Ramas. 588 00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:40,680 Speaker 1: Okay, So now here's the scene. Everyone's in the office. 589 00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:44,200 Speaker 1: You're getting ready to start this meeting with Bernie, who's 590 00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:46,880 Speaker 1: flown all the way in. He leans over. 591 00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:48,759 Speaker 2: On his way to the Melbourne Grand. 592 00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:51,080 Speaker 1: Prix, and he leans over to pet your duck. 593 00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:54,879 Speaker 2: Grab somebody ears right, and what happened the dog? There's 594 00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:56,920 Speaker 2: all these people come in and he reaches down and 595 00:35:56,960 --> 00:36:00,440 Speaker 2: grabs Rambus by his two ears. Ramas doesn't get it 596 00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:04,440 Speaker 2: and snaps and takes off the nose of his nose, 597 00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:07,319 Speaker 2: the top from his bridge of his nose down to 598 00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:12,080 Speaker 2: the tip about a half inch wide. A strip, but 599 00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:14,920 Speaker 2: I mean a strip. He stripped it off. 600 00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:17,080 Speaker 3: The blood shot all over and there was something I 601 00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:18,960 Speaker 3: could look like there was a mass murder in there. 602 00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:21,640 Speaker 2: They had a rush into a plastic surgeon. Guy had 603 00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:24,040 Speaker 2: never been in a hospital out of his life. Bernie Ecklestone. 604 00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:26,600 Speaker 2: He had a big nose. But we should have done 605 00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:31,000 Speaker 2: a whole nose job. But they took him behind his 606 00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:35,239 Speaker 2: right ear and made a skin graft. But in order 607 00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:38,160 Speaker 2: for it to work, the skin hasked. The part that 608 00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:39,920 Speaker 2: you patch that you put on top has to be 609 00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:42,600 Speaker 2: held down so to be a blood supply. So what 610 00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:44,880 Speaker 2: they do is they take a gauze and double it 611 00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:48,200 Speaker 2: up and make a pressure bandage, and then they stitch 612 00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:51,440 Speaker 2: threw the skin of his nose over the top of 613 00:36:51,520 --> 00:36:55,759 Speaker 2: the gauze two loops and tie it down. Now, this 614 00:36:55,880 --> 00:36:58,439 Speaker 2: piece of gauze one inch long and about a half 615 00:36:58,520 --> 00:37:01,080 Speaker 2: inch or tree cores an inch wide is sewn to 616 00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:03,799 Speaker 2: the top of his nose, and of course it's bloodstoked, 617 00:37:04,080 --> 00:37:06,960 Speaker 2: so pretty soon it turns brown. But it's stitched to 618 00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:09,960 Speaker 2: his face and has to stay there for ten days, 619 00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:13,840 Speaker 2: so that the skin graft will take instantly. It worked perfectly, 620 00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:16,800 Speaker 2: but he had to go to the Melbourne Ground Prix 621 00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:19,360 Speaker 2: with a great big piece of gauze sewn on the 622 00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:21,759 Speaker 2: top of his nose. Poor guy. 623 00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:23,880 Speaker 1: A year later we go and visit him in London. 624 00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:27,200 Speaker 1: I said, God, you look good. That nose is the 625 00:37:27,239 --> 00:37:29,879 Speaker 1: best looking nose for a dollar. And then we're over 626 00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:33,799 Speaker 1: there seeing fay Ed because now you are into Belago 627 00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:38,400 Speaker 1: and we were touring Europe. Right, we're meeting everybody. We're 628 00:37:38,640 --> 00:37:40,520 Speaker 1: going around everywhere trying to. 629 00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:45,240 Speaker 2: Spend three radio programs about your dirty tricks, practical joke. 630 00:37:45,120 --> 00:37:50,080 Speaker 1: What was cool? The bolage was called Bauabash, right yep. 631 00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:55,240 Speaker 1: And we're floating around you all to Italy. We're staying 632 00:37:55,680 --> 00:37:59,239 Speaker 1: in Italy at the Villadesta, at the Villadest and in 633 00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:02,520 Speaker 1: the middle of like Como, which is shaped like the 634 00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:03,200 Speaker 1: letter Y. 635 00:38:04,040 --> 00:38:08,279 Speaker 2: So when it splits, and it's like why upside down, 636 00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:11,719 Speaker 2: So this part that goes north then it splits like 637 00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:15,280 Speaker 2: a letter y almost ninety degrees and there's two sides, 638 00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:19,759 Speaker 2: but in the middle it to split is land and 639 00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:25,080 Speaker 2: that's the town of Blagio and it's a beautiful old town. 640 00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:30,440 Speaker 2: And a friend had a boat gil Nichols. Gil Nichols 641 00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:34,279 Speaker 2: had rented a house and brought his antique chriscraft to 642 00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:36,759 Speaker 2: Lake Como for the summer. And he came to the 643 00:38:36,840 --> 00:38:42,200 Speaker 2: villa to st and picked up an Anka and Elaine 644 00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:47,200 Speaker 2: and I and we went for lunch at Plagio. And 645 00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:49,640 Speaker 2: we're coming back at about five miles an hour in 646 00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:55,239 Speaker 2: the criscraft on this gorgeous July day. And I said, 647 00:38:55,360 --> 00:38:58,880 Speaker 2: what a pretty word Belagio is. There's also a street 648 00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:02,840 Speaker 2: in Beverly Hill called Bolagio, where the bel Air Country 649 00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:06,480 Speaker 2: Club is. I said, what a mellifluous word, Belagio. I 650 00:39:06,520 --> 00:39:12,520 Speaker 2: wonder what it means in Italian. Well, Paul's wife Annie 651 00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:16,799 Speaker 2: had in her purse one of those Italian English dictionaries 652 00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:19,280 Speaker 2: that you can put in your purse when you're traveling 653 00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:24,000 Speaker 2: and the boat's going along, put put putt, and ann 654 00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:28,440 Speaker 2: Ankus says, listen to this Belagio. Whether it was the 655 00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:31,400 Speaker 2: town or the words, she says, she got the book 656 00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:36,759 Speaker 2: a place of elegant relaxation. And Paul and everybody in 657 00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:39,960 Speaker 2: the boat goes, ooh, what a good name for hotel. 658 00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:42,120 Speaker 5: Ooh. 659 00:39:42,760 --> 00:39:45,160 Speaker 2: And we were halfway back to the Villa de Esk 660 00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:48,600 Speaker 2: and we were going to call the hotel in Las 661 00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:54,520 Speaker 2: Vegas beau Ravage, which is pretty riverside or watershore beau Ravage, 662 00:39:55,520 --> 00:39:58,760 Speaker 2: and we said, whoa, And we agreed on the boat 663 00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:01,680 Speaker 2: that the noon name for the Strip hotel was not 664 00:40:01,719 --> 00:40:04,880 Speaker 2: going to be beau Ravage. It was it was halfway finished, 665 00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:09,080 Speaker 2: was going to be Blagio, and we'd use beau Ravage 666 00:40:09,600 --> 00:40:11,680 Speaker 2: as the name of the other hotel. We're a building 667 00:40:11,719 --> 00:40:16,120 Speaker 2: at the same time with two thousand rooms in Biloxi, Mississippi, 668 00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:20,720 Speaker 2: and on the spot, because of his wife, we changed 669 00:40:20,760 --> 00:40:27,000 Speaker 2: from beau Ravage to Belagio and used beau Ravage in Mississippi. Well, 670 00:40:27,239 --> 00:40:30,320 Speaker 2: it got famous with the fountains and all that stuff. 671 00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:32,799 Speaker 2: And we got a letter from the mayor and the 672 00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:37,440 Speaker 2: city council of Belagio, Italy. Dear mister Wynn, we are 673 00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:40,560 Speaker 2: so proud that you named your hotel after our town. 674 00:40:41,600 --> 00:40:46,200 Speaker 2: And so this is a proclamation designating Blagio, Las Vegas 675 00:40:46,239 --> 00:40:49,000 Speaker 2: as a sister city of Blagio, Italy. 676 00:40:49,080 --> 00:40:52,320 Speaker 3: Always going to talk about what happened when you first created, 677 00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:56,759 Speaker 3: Sir the sole at the tent behind the mirage, and 678 00:40:56,840 --> 00:40:59,600 Speaker 3: people couldn't relate to the fact that this was a 679 00:40:59,640 --> 00:41:02,760 Speaker 3: circuit us without animals, and you know, people weren't really coming. 680 00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:06,480 Speaker 3: And we were sitting at a board meeting, our small 681 00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:11,000 Speaker 3: Mirage Resorts board and you clapped your hands and said 682 00:41:11,680 --> 00:41:14,640 Speaker 3: taxi cabs. And we all looked at you, like, what 683 00:41:14,640 --> 00:41:17,439 Speaker 3: what are you talking about? Taxi cabs? We're talking about why, 684 00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:20,560 Speaker 3: you know, we don't have enough enough people excited about 685 00:41:20,560 --> 00:41:23,520 Speaker 3: coming to see this circus. And you said, what's the 686 00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:25,920 Speaker 3: first thing that happens when people flying to Las Vegas, 687 00:41:25,960 --> 00:41:28,080 Speaker 3: they get in a taxi cab and they say to 688 00:41:28,120 --> 00:41:30,680 Speaker 3: the cab driver, Hey, what's a you know, what's good 689 00:41:30,719 --> 00:41:33,760 Speaker 3: to see here in town? And I want to invite 690 00:41:33,880 --> 00:41:36,799 Speaker 3: all the taxi drivers in Las Vegas to bring their 691 00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:42,440 Speaker 3: families to come, no charge for anything and see the show. 692 00:41:42,640 --> 00:41:45,440 Speaker 2: And get a dinner, get dinner, and get a dinner. 693 00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:49,520 Speaker 3: Right, And they came, and they got so excited, and 694 00:41:49,560 --> 00:41:53,000 Speaker 3: when people started coming to town, they started talking up. 695 00:41:53,080 --> 00:41:56,400 Speaker 1: People went all the way back to the sixties cab drivers. 696 00:41:56,800 --> 00:41:59,200 Speaker 2: You know, we we went to an extreme with that 697 00:42:01,080 --> 00:42:08,680 Speaker 2: when we built Wind deliberately decided to take it to 698 00:42:08,719 --> 00:42:11,520 Speaker 2: another level. When you came off the strip. You know, 699 00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:15,360 Speaker 2: cabs line up in order to be called by the 700 00:42:15,400 --> 00:42:21,160 Speaker 2: doorman to pick up the next fair Well, guys are 701 00:42:21,239 --> 00:42:23,960 Speaker 2: driving all the time. They need to take a leak, 702 00:42:24,560 --> 00:42:27,560 Speaker 2: they needed, they want to get a drink, don't carry 703 00:42:27,560 --> 00:42:30,080 Speaker 2: some in the front water or something. They have a cooler. 704 00:42:32,120 --> 00:42:38,799 Speaker 2: So when we designed the wind and Encore, we put 705 00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:43,520 Speaker 2: special ramps that went underground before you came up on 706 00:42:43,560 --> 00:42:48,279 Speaker 2: the portkachhere and when you went underground there were two 707 00:42:48,360 --> 00:42:52,799 Speaker 2: lanes and on the left there was a little alcove 708 00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:57,200 Speaker 2: and there were vending machines and a men's and ladies room, 709 00:42:58,480 --> 00:43:02,200 Speaker 2: and all of the cart tunes and the decorations were 710 00:43:02,239 --> 00:43:06,520 Speaker 2: about hacks and cab drivers. And then at Encore we 711 00:43:06,560 --> 00:43:11,480 Speaker 2: went even further. We had the Ferrari thing going and 712 00:43:11,520 --> 00:43:15,680 Speaker 2: we were doing business with Roger Penske, and Roger invited 713 00:43:15,760 --> 00:43:20,920 Speaker 2: Mark and I to the you know the race on 714 00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:24,480 Speaker 2: Memorial Day and we got to walk out while they 715 00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:26,680 Speaker 2: were on the ready to start, you know, out on 716 00:43:26,760 --> 00:43:29,640 Speaker 2: the lined up. I thought it was so exciting when 717 00:43:29,640 --> 00:43:32,040 Speaker 2: you're in the pits to hear all the engines rivving 718 00:43:32,080 --> 00:43:35,600 Speaker 2: as they're on the lines, you know and rows. And 719 00:43:36,400 --> 00:43:39,600 Speaker 2: I said to Roger, can we get someone to photograph 720 00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:42,839 Speaker 2: as if you're sitting in the driver's seat of your 721 00:43:42,880 --> 00:43:45,480 Speaker 2: car and you take a picture of the people on 722 00:43:45,520 --> 00:43:50,000 Speaker 2: your right and the people on your left. He said, sure, 723 00:43:51,840 --> 00:43:55,440 Speaker 2: or just the people on your right. And someone went 724 00:43:55,520 --> 00:43:58,880 Speaker 2: and did that at one of the races of the 725 00:43:58,880 --> 00:44:03,000 Speaker 2: Indye cars, and we had them blown up and we 726 00:44:03,080 --> 00:44:06,319 Speaker 2: made these things that would stick to the wall. We 727 00:44:06,400 --> 00:44:10,200 Speaker 2: made tile walls in the tunnel and when you went 728 00:44:10,200 --> 00:44:12,640 Speaker 2: in your car and you pulled in, because then you 729 00:44:12,680 --> 00:44:16,319 Speaker 2: went up or ramped right into the porkishere and there 730 00:44:16,360 --> 00:44:18,920 Speaker 2: was room for like five six cars in this tunnel. 731 00:44:20,280 --> 00:44:24,160 Speaker 2: The walls had the drivers as if you were looking 732 00:44:24,719 --> 00:44:28,359 Speaker 2: to the right at other cars on the line, and 733 00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:32,040 Speaker 2: we recorded the music the sound of the cars, and 734 00:44:32,080 --> 00:44:35,160 Speaker 2: we played it on an overhead speaker, so the guys 735 00:44:35,160 --> 00:44:37,400 Speaker 2: would come down. They'd be sitting the car and they 736 00:44:37,520 --> 00:44:39,520 Speaker 2: looked to the right and hear the sounding to see 737 00:44:39,520 --> 00:44:42,840 Speaker 2: the cars all in color at life size on this 738 00:44:43,640 --> 00:44:47,080 Speaker 2: mile our tape that we made these things that go 739 00:44:47,160 --> 00:44:50,080 Speaker 2: on the wall, and you know, we decorated the wall 740 00:44:50,120 --> 00:44:52,479 Speaker 2: at life size like you were looking at a rows 741 00:44:52,480 --> 00:44:55,760 Speaker 2: of cars on your right, and we had nice vending 742 00:44:55,840 --> 00:45:00,080 Speaker 2: machines and really clean bathrooms. We kissed up to the 743 00:45:00,600 --> 00:45:03,439 Speaker 2: and then we invite all the cab drivers in Las 744 00:45:03,520 --> 00:45:08,440 Speaker 2: Vegas when the wind opened to have a free room, 745 00:45:09,560 --> 00:45:13,360 Speaker 2: one night, free room. The hotel was just for the 746 00:45:13,400 --> 00:45:18,200 Speaker 2: cab drivers. Just before we opened two days, all the 747 00:45:18,239 --> 00:45:22,000 Speaker 2: cab drivers and their wives a show and dinner and 748 00:45:22,080 --> 00:45:26,440 Speaker 2: a room and they could get massages. How could they 749 00:45:26,600 --> 00:45:29,279 Speaker 2: know to explain the hotel if they hadn't experienced it. 750 00:45:30,200 --> 00:45:32,520 Speaker 2: And you know, they got all dressed up, and the 751 00:45:32,640 --> 00:45:36,840 Speaker 2: wives would come and say, almost win. And the husbands 752 00:45:37,400 --> 00:45:40,280 Speaker 2: they were so grateful, you'd think them as sort of salty. 753 00:45:40,680 --> 00:45:44,399 Speaker 2: They weren't. No one's ever done as we love it. 754 00:45:44,960 --> 00:45:47,880 Speaker 2: We own the cab drivers. And it's true even today. 755 00:45:48,520 --> 00:45:50,480 Speaker 2: Do you miss it? You miss the data. I wouldn't 756 00:45:50,520 --> 00:45:52,120 Speaker 2: take it if I could have the whole thing for 757 00:45:52,160 --> 00:45:54,960 Speaker 2: a buck. As God is my judge on my wife's life, 758 00:45:55,400 --> 00:45:59,120 Speaker 2: I wouldn't go to Las Vegas if he gave me 759 00:45:59,160 --> 00:46:05,640 Speaker 2: the whole town for a because to art work, boring crowds, 760 00:46:07,040 --> 00:46:12,080 Speaker 2: twenty four to seven, payroll problems, the design, the competition, 761 00:46:12,360 --> 00:46:17,520 Speaker 2: the credit, the government, the whole idea of keeping the 762 00:46:17,560 --> 00:46:21,440 Speaker 2: place a sharp stay on top of it. Been there, 763 00:46:21,520 --> 00:46:26,000 Speaker 2: done that, Oh yeah, fifty one years. I didn't realize 764 00:46:26,040 --> 00:46:29,799 Speaker 2: what a tunnel I was in. I got up, did 765 00:46:29,800 --> 00:46:32,440 Speaker 2: it twelve fourteen hours, went to bed, and got up 766 00:46:32,480 --> 00:46:34,120 Speaker 2: and did it again. I even lived in a hotel. 767 00:46:46,239 --> 00:46:48,120 Speaker 1: When did you fall in love with the whole art thing? 768 00:46:48,160 --> 00:46:50,440 Speaker 1: Because I took the first trip with you to Japan 769 00:46:51,200 --> 00:46:53,799 Speaker 1: when we went to I think Tokyo, that was our 770 00:46:53,840 --> 00:46:55,680 Speaker 1: first trip with Bill Ackuaveella. 771 00:46:55,840 --> 00:47:01,520 Speaker 2: Well, the question was, how does Blagio trump Mirage Baldwin. 772 00:47:02,080 --> 00:47:05,200 Speaker 2: Baldwin didn't want to build another hotel. It'll scavenge the Mirage. 773 00:47:05,200 --> 00:47:07,680 Speaker 2: We already had the top hotel. Why do you want 774 00:47:07,680 --> 00:47:10,880 Speaker 2: to build another one? I said, well, someone's going to 775 00:47:10,920 --> 00:47:13,960 Speaker 2: build a better hotel than Mirage, because you know, it 776 00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:17,680 Speaker 2: had a one hundred and sixty foot bathroom, you know, 777 00:47:17,760 --> 00:47:21,600 Speaker 2: a shower tub, one shower in the tub together, an 778 00:47:21,640 --> 00:47:25,000 Speaker 2: open toilet and a single sink about one hundred and 779 00:47:25,080 --> 00:47:29,240 Speaker 2: sixty feet. But in a four or five star hotel 780 00:47:29,920 --> 00:47:32,440 Speaker 2: you have to have two sinks. You have a separate toilet, 781 00:47:32,920 --> 00:47:35,440 Speaker 2: I mean a separate shower, a separate tub, and the 782 00:47:35,480 --> 00:47:40,120 Speaker 2: toilet should be enclosed or at least be roomy enough, 783 00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:44,719 Speaker 2: and we had We had a fabulous public area and 784 00:47:44,840 --> 00:47:53,719 Speaker 2: casino and showroom and all that, and volcanoes and dolphins 785 00:47:53,760 --> 00:47:58,600 Speaker 2: and tigers, but we had really a three star bedroom. 786 00:47:59,040 --> 00:48:02,240 Speaker 2: The sweets were gorgeous, but the twenty seven hundred regular 787 00:48:02,360 --> 00:48:09,520 Speaker 2: rooms were three star. The three hundred sweets were another story. 788 00:48:10,600 --> 00:48:14,680 Speaker 2: And I said to my pals, I said, look, someone's 789 00:48:14,719 --> 00:48:19,239 Speaker 2: going to build a better hotel than us, and we'll 790 00:48:19,239 --> 00:48:23,080 Speaker 2: be second. If we build it, then we could be 791 00:48:23,160 --> 00:48:29,799 Speaker 2: first and second. Bobby wasn't real impress but he was conservative, 792 00:48:30,680 --> 00:48:32,840 Speaker 2: but I wanted to do it. And we bought the 793 00:48:32,960 --> 00:48:39,840 Speaker 2: dunes for four hundred thousand an acre seventy million dollars, 794 00:48:40,480 --> 00:48:42,399 Speaker 2: but then they had to close at which cost him 795 00:48:42,400 --> 00:48:46,759 Speaker 2: five We really only paid sixty five million for one 796 00:48:46,800 --> 00:48:52,360 Speaker 2: hundred and sixty six acres plus water rights pre nineteen 797 00:48:52,520 --> 00:48:55,400 Speaker 2: fifty y five water rights so we could build a lake. 798 00:48:56,200 --> 00:48:58,920 Speaker 2: It was against the law to do that because you 799 00:48:58,920 --> 00:49:02,319 Speaker 2: couldn't use city water for lakes, but if you had 800 00:49:02,360 --> 00:49:06,719 Speaker 2: private water rights. The predated nineteen fifty five, there were 801 00:49:06,719 --> 00:49:09,520 Speaker 2: only two places on a strip that had private water rights, 802 00:49:09,960 --> 00:49:14,000 Speaker 2: the dunes seven hundred acre feet and the desert in 803 00:49:14,120 --> 00:49:18,520 Speaker 2: one thousand acre feet. Both companies that built golf courses 804 00:49:18,560 --> 00:49:24,440 Speaker 2: in the early fifties, and they had built when the 805 00:49:24,480 --> 00:49:27,719 Speaker 2: desert didn't built the water rights. When the desert inn't 806 00:49:27,719 --> 00:49:31,080 Speaker 2: built the homes that were around the desert In, there 807 00:49:31,200 --> 00:49:35,960 Speaker 2: was no water service there in the county. So in 808 00:49:36,080 --> 00:49:38,759 Speaker 2: order to build the golf course and the homes on 809 00:49:38,800 --> 00:49:42,920 Speaker 2: the golf course, the desert In guys Mo dalits and 810 00:49:42,920 --> 00:49:46,240 Speaker 2: those guys had to find there had to dig wells 811 00:49:46,920 --> 00:49:51,120 Speaker 2: and create a utility, the desert In Water Company, and 812 00:49:51,160 --> 00:49:55,560 Speaker 2: it went under this authority of the Public Service Commission 813 00:49:56,760 --> 00:50:00,400 Speaker 2: like the regular water company. When I we bought the 814 00:50:00,480 --> 00:50:04,160 Speaker 2: dunes the desert In in nineteen two thousand, I got 815 00:50:04,160 --> 00:50:08,320 Speaker 2: the water company with it, and then we bought the houses. 816 00:50:09,400 --> 00:50:14,920 Speaker 2: We got the the state Engineer and the State of 817 00:50:14,960 --> 00:50:18,960 Speaker 2: Nevada to say that we no longer were required to 818 00:50:19,000 --> 00:50:22,400 Speaker 2: comply with the Public Service Commission the State of Nevada 819 00:50:22,719 --> 00:50:24,920 Speaker 2: because there were no more homes that we were servicing. 820 00:50:25,960 --> 00:50:29,600 Speaker 2: The dunes had water rights. So I wanted to buy 821 00:50:29,680 --> 00:50:32,200 Speaker 2: the dunes, and they wanted to sell that it was 822 00:50:32,200 --> 00:50:39,840 Speaker 2: in bankruptcy, and and my argument to my colleagues was 823 00:50:39,920 --> 00:50:45,720 Speaker 2: that if we've got money. Now we built all these hotels. 824 00:50:45,800 --> 00:50:49,319 Speaker 2: We're now a bigger company. We could we could build 825 00:50:49,320 --> 00:50:52,640 Speaker 2: the greatest hotel in the world where the dunes was 826 00:50:54,520 --> 00:50:56,719 Speaker 2: to kill you an idea. How desperate we were to 827 00:50:56,800 --> 00:51:00,400 Speaker 2: make sure that was true. We built an eight and 828 00:51:00,400 --> 00:51:05,240 Speaker 2: a half acre lake with twenty three million gallons of water, 829 00:51:06,360 --> 00:51:09,920 Speaker 2: the fountains of Belagio on the corner of the Strip 830 00:51:10,120 --> 00:51:16,760 Speaker 2: and Flamingo Road. The entire Dunes Hotel was in the lake. 831 00:51:17,560 --> 00:51:23,600 Speaker 2: Casino ballrooms, everything was in the lake. Belagio was on 832 00:51:23,640 --> 00:51:29,879 Speaker 2: the old Dunes golf course. That was a radical thing 833 00:51:29,920 --> 00:51:33,160 Speaker 2: to do, to not have that up on the street. 834 00:51:33,239 --> 00:51:38,279 Speaker 2: What about to walk in, said everybody, people promenading up 835 00:51:38,280 --> 00:51:41,959 Speaker 2: and down a strip. It's it's the old story. It's 836 00:51:42,120 --> 00:51:47,839 Speaker 2: like Treasure Island. It's like Belagio, like a mirage. Make 837 00:51:47,960 --> 00:51:51,560 Speaker 2: him die of curiosity to want to get in, make 838 00:51:51,640 --> 00:51:57,600 Speaker 2: the place aspiration. If what they see in the outside 839 00:51:57,680 --> 00:51:59,839 Speaker 2: is so terrific, they'll say, let's go see what it's 840 00:51:59,880 --> 00:52:03,040 Speaker 2: like on the inside. It's the oldest story in the world. 841 00:52:03,080 --> 00:52:06,680 Speaker 2: It's window dressing. What is every retail street in America? 842 00:52:06,840 --> 00:52:09,759 Speaker 2: How you dress your window makes people want to go 843 00:52:09,800 --> 00:52:18,440 Speaker 2: in the fountains, the pirate shows, volcanoes interrupt they're window dressing. 844 00:52:18,560 --> 00:52:21,000 Speaker 2: They are the things that provoke you and entertain you 845 00:52:21,080 --> 00:52:28,880 Speaker 2: and say, come to me your favorite island, bally Bally, 846 00:52:30,120 --> 00:52:31,080 Speaker 2: same old story. 847 00:52:31,280 --> 00:52:33,719 Speaker 1: Well leave it on a singing note, listen for me 848 00:52:33,840 --> 00:52:36,960 Speaker 1: and skip. We've so looked forward to this. I got 849 00:52:36,960 --> 00:52:40,640 Speaker 1: to tell you, we could probably go on for another 850 00:52:40,760 --> 00:52:43,040 Speaker 1: twelve hours with this, and it's. 851 00:52:42,840 --> 00:52:45,320 Speaker 2: Been three of us with our own personal stories of 852 00:52:45,520 --> 00:52:46,200 Speaker 2: our adventures. 853 00:52:46,280 --> 00:52:48,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, but we want to thank you very much for 854 00:52:48,239 --> 00:52:52,080 Speaker 1: taking the time. We hang all the time, but to 855 00:52:52,120 --> 00:52:54,000 Speaker 1: be a part of this. You know, we're getting our 856 00:52:54,040 --> 00:52:57,080 Speaker 1: feet wet. We're lal your buddy, we know that we're 857 00:52:57,080 --> 00:52:59,320 Speaker 1: all skippy. Yeah, we're all brothers. 858 00:52:59,360 --> 00:53:01,320 Speaker 2: What it's been a blast. 859 00:53:01,440 --> 00:53:02,320 Speaker 1: That's made a big difference. 860 00:53:02,320 --> 00:53:04,719 Speaker 2: We talked this way when when there is no microphone, 861 00:53:04,920 --> 00:53:07,120 Speaker 2: that's what's the difference. That's totally true. 862 00:53:07,480 --> 00:53:11,319 Speaker 1: What's the difference. You're just making me reminiscent a lot 863 00:53:11,320 --> 00:53:13,800 Speaker 1: of people. It's going to make a big difference because 864 00:53:13,800 --> 00:53:17,319 Speaker 1: a lot of people have not heard or even understood 865 00:53:17,400 --> 00:53:21,640 Speaker 1: about Steve Wynn. They've seen it, they've experienced it, but 866 00:53:21,719 --> 00:53:25,120 Speaker 1: to hear you articulated believe me, You're going to touch 867 00:53:25,160 --> 00:53:26,960 Speaker 1: a lot of people in a new. 868 00:53:26,840 --> 00:53:29,080 Speaker 3: Way in the level of details. You know, I did 869 00:53:29,200 --> 00:53:30,240 Speaker 3: they take it for granted. 870 00:53:30,280 --> 00:53:32,120 Speaker 2: They don't know. I love doing it with you guys 871 00:53:32,200 --> 00:53:35,080 Speaker 2: because we've been together all our lives. But you know, 872 00:53:35,360 --> 00:53:39,000 Speaker 2: the people, the television producers, you know, they wanted to 873 00:53:39,040 --> 00:53:41,719 Speaker 2: make a series, you know, like they're doing Netflix series, 874 00:53:43,320 --> 00:53:48,000 Speaker 2: and I just wasn't motivated. You know, I'm not crazy 875 00:53:48,040 --> 00:53:52,080 Speaker 2: about worrying about posterity. But when you're sitting shooting the 876 00:53:52,120 --> 00:53:55,160 Speaker 2: breeze with a couple of buddies, I could go on 877 00:53:55,280 --> 00:53:58,760 Speaker 2: like that forever, because you guys remind me of those stories. 878 00:53:59,560 --> 00:54:02,280 Speaker 2: I don't want ground thinking of the modesty paul I note, 879 00:54:02,800 --> 00:54:05,879 Speaker 2: but I like what we just did. I don't want 880 00:54:05,880 --> 00:54:07,799 Speaker 2: people going to hear this. Who cares? But it was 881 00:54:07,800 --> 00:54:10,360 Speaker 2: fun just talking about it. We loved it. It's a blast. 882 00:54:10,480 --> 00:54:11,280 Speaker 2: You're ready for dinner. 883 00:54:11,360 --> 00:54:12,280 Speaker 1: We're ready for dinner. 884 00:54:12,360 --> 00:54:14,120 Speaker 2: Let's go. 885 00:54:18,560 --> 00:54:21,360 Speaker 1: Our Away with Paul Anka and Skip. 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