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Speaker 2: am deeply, deeply well. I I am deeply well. I

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Speaker 2: am deeply well. I'm Debbie Brown and this is the

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Speaker 2: Deeply Well Podcast. Welcome to Deeply Well, a soft place

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Speaker 2: Those that are curious, creative, and ready to expand in

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Speaker 2: where we heal, this is where we become. Welcome to

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Speaker 2: the show. As always, I'm excited. I feel like on

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Speaker 2: this show we get into the fibers of so many

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Speaker 2: Today we have a very special guest joining us on

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Speaker 2: this show, nineteen Keys. Nineteen Keys is a thought leader, futurist, technologist,

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Speaker 2: a unique blend of metaphysics, mindfulness, business acumen, and cutting

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Speaker 2: Renowned for his dynamic speaking style and profound wisdom, nineteen

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Speaker 2: Keys has emerged as a pivotal figure in personal growth, technology,

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the shows.

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Speaker 2: It's always something right when you take it in. How

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Speaker 3: Well, it's interesting because I was going over this yesterday,

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Speaker 3: when I take myself back to early days, right, there's

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Speaker 2: It really gives such a profound ability. And this is

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Speaker 2: There's no integrity, and I think for a lot of

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Speaker 3: Well, I mean just thinking about that difference between like,

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Speaker 1: And are you interacting with the fields one hundred percent now.

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Speaker 1: M Yeah, divinely said.

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Speaker 3: There are certain developers of gifts that you can get

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Speaker 1: What do I desire? What do I really want? And

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Speaker 2: And I think that piece about how can I serve

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Speaker 2: And how are we advancing ultimately humanity because we're here

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Speaker 1: I'm so interested to talk to you about AI.

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Speaker 2: So I'm somebody that is trying to reconnect deeply and

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Speaker 2: So I'm just I'm so curious with your vision, and

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Speaker 3: I think yes to all of those things. What I

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Speaker 3: I look at it to enhance what I'm already doing

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Speaker 3: where you can connect with people all across the planet

437
00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:56,040
Speaker 3: Earth that are in various different global positions. And why

438
00:25:56,119 --> 00:25:58,880
Speaker 3: do you need that? Because you need that for business, right,

439
00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:02,040
Speaker 3: you need that just for your on life resources because

440
00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:05,520
Speaker 3: at first and still to this day, like you have

441
00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:08,639
Speaker 3: a child that grows up without any networks, right, or

442
00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:10,520
Speaker 3: any wealthy network, it's going to be harder for them

443
00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:13,600
Speaker 3: later on in life. They don't have those connections. And

444
00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:15,440
Speaker 3: that was the point of going to college, That was

445
00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:18,639
Speaker 3: the point of going right to these different You place

446
00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:20,879
Speaker 3: your child in this school, right, they grow up with

447
00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:23,280
Speaker 3: this kid, the letter becomes a judge, or letter becomes

448
00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:27,080
Speaker 3: a CEO somewhere, Right, those are connections. So when you

449
00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:30,880
Speaker 3: look at who technology can't benefit the most, it's people

450
00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:34,440
Speaker 3: who normally didn't have that access, right, It's people who normally,

451
00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:37,399
Speaker 3: you know, those things were kept away from them. So

452
00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:41,760
Speaker 3: now they can utilize technology to give themselves those resources.

453
00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:44,920
Speaker 3: The plot of the poor man is a lack of resources. Right.

454
00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:48,360
Speaker 3: So when I look at big corporations, I look at

455
00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:51,840
Speaker 3: big institutions. What is that gap between that allows them

456
00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:55,639
Speaker 3: to maintain power as the manageria or the ruling class.

457
00:26:55,880 --> 00:26:59,480
Speaker 3: It's their resources, it's their access, it's their brain trust,

458
00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:01,720
Speaker 3: intelligence and see that they have in the world. Right,

459
00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:04,520
Speaker 3: they have the budget so they can hire the smartest people,

460
00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:07,960
Speaker 3: and that creates a barrier for competition. So if I'm

461
00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:11,840
Speaker 3: giving a smart machine, and now I can't hire this

462
00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:14,600
Speaker 3: person that can do copyright. I can't hire this person

463
00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:17,160
Speaker 3: that knows about science. I can't hire this somebody else

464
00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:20,080
Speaker 3: to go do researching and editing and all these things

465
00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:22,560
Speaker 3: for me because it's too expensive and you don't have

466
00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:25,480
Speaker 3: the budget. But I can use AI to substitute that.

467
00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:28,639
Speaker 3: So now I have the same almost the same amount

468
00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:32,040
Speaker 3: of resources as a multi million dollar company. Right, the

469
00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:34,520
Speaker 3: question is is not about what AI is, what you're

470
00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:37,320
Speaker 3: going to use it for? Right, same thing with any

471
00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:39,840
Speaker 3: piece of technology. You have a mind, but most people

472
00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:44,320
Speaker 3: don't use it. Right, So I always approach things from

473
00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:48,479
Speaker 3: you know, a level of curiosity, Right what? And I

474
00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:51,600
Speaker 3: ask myself today, like when do we even demand anymore?

475
00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:54,800
Speaker 3: You go back to the early sixties, we had demands, Right,

476
00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:56,639
Speaker 3: we want it to be in certain spaces, right, we

477
00:27:56,680 --> 00:27:59,720
Speaker 3: want a certain equality, we want in certain rights that

478
00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:02,960
Speaker 3: will us our collective demands as a public. We had

479
00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:06,200
Speaker 3: that easy outcry to understand what we wanted, and when

480
00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:08,920
Speaker 3: we had that outcry, we had the lack of resources

481
00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:10,879
Speaker 3: to give it to ourselves, even though we could have

482
00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:13,720
Speaker 3: looked at each other collectively and decided to just be

483
00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:17,640
Speaker 3: each other resources. But we decided to look outside of

484
00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:20,480
Speaker 3: ourselves and say, hey, this is a thing holding us back.

485
00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:25,760
Speaker 3: We go up to you know, two thousands, right, what

486
00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:28,440
Speaker 3: was our demands then? I can't even tell you. I

487
00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:31,160
Speaker 3: don't know. In the early nineties we had millionaire marches

488
00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:34,600
Speaker 3: and we were talking about you know, liberation and atonement

489
00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:36,480
Speaker 3: and things of that nature, and trying to heal the

490
00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:39,080
Speaker 3: hood from the things that happened. He had the crack

491
00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:42,440
Speaker 3: air in the eighties, the two thousands, we were just

492
00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:45,120
Speaker 3: trying to figure out how to utilize this technology. We

493
00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:49,800
Speaker 3: stopped having demands. We started being a product of the system. Right. So,

494
00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:53,200
Speaker 3: now that human beings have all of this power, and

495
00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:57,360
Speaker 3: by power I mean access, resources, democratization of these things

496
00:28:57,400 --> 00:29:00,560
Speaker 3: that were normally kept out of the hands of the masses,

497
00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:04,800
Speaker 3: they don't have a demand for it. Right. So if

498
00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:08,320
Speaker 3: you are a dangerous individual, right, you know, they have

499
00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:11,080
Speaker 3: hackers that are savant, said, and they're so good they

500
00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:13,600
Speaker 3: can hack almost any system. They get caught, they keep

501
00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:16,360
Speaker 3: you away from a computer. Right, sometimes you get banned

502
00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:19,479
Speaker 3: for life because they know if you get access to

503
00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:22,320
Speaker 3: this machine, you can do anything you want. If you

504
00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:27,200
Speaker 3: give a mass population of people access to advanced machinery, right,

505
00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:29,880
Speaker 3: and that means that you know that they are so

506
00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:32,520
Speaker 3: demoralized at this point that they're not going to do

507
00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:35,680
Speaker 3: anything with it, and you're not afraid of them. So

508
00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:38,840
Speaker 3: it's funny because these ars are not even becoming smarter,

509
00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:42,200
Speaker 3: they're becoming weaker the more people are using them. And

510
00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:46,520
Speaker 3: people don't even understand that what you're watching is the

511
00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:51,320
Speaker 3: advancement of these corporations with even more you know, advanced technology,

512
00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:54,160
Speaker 3: not people having access to it. So we know for

513
00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:56,400
Speaker 3: a fact that they're not going to give up access

514
00:29:56,400 --> 00:29:58,360
Speaker 3: to the technology because they know that they're going to

515
00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:01,920
Speaker 3: use it for more control and more power, right, and

516
00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:06,480
Speaker 3: greater capitalization and efficiency or resources. So the question becomes

517
00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:09,200
Speaker 3: is why don't we have any demands for how we

518
00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:11,680
Speaker 3: want to use it? Because we lack vision. So it's

519
00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:14,120
Speaker 3: easy for me to see how we can use technology.

520
00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:16,920
Speaker 3: Let's look at all our problems, right, our lack of

521
00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:20,840
Speaker 3: representation in media. Right, we can't compete on media scale

522
00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:24,120
Speaker 3: because it's all controlled by ad dollars. Advertisement got the

523
00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:26,680
Speaker 3: culture on the lockhole, right, But now we can use

524
00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:29,520
Speaker 3: technology to create platforms to where we can connect the

525
00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:33,480
Speaker 3: core fan basis and create subscriptions, so now we can

526
00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:36,200
Speaker 3: monetize that and then grow as skilled media from an

527
00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:40,600
Speaker 3: independent operation. Without the technology, that's not possible. So I'm

528
00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:42,720
Speaker 3: not going to complain about the fact that, yes, there's

529
00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:45,280
Speaker 3: always going to be negative use cases of everything, but

530
00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:47,960
Speaker 3: that's because the enemy uses it that way. How the

531
00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:51,080
Speaker 3: way you go use it? Right? If there's applications to

532
00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:55,000
Speaker 3: where I can utilize and create AI sounds and music,

533
00:30:55,040 --> 00:30:57,400
Speaker 3: why wouldn't I utilize that to create Hirsch music that

534
00:30:57,440 --> 00:31:00,560
Speaker 3: I want to tune to my frequency rights custom has

535
00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:04,480
Speaker 3: a customer minded personal assessment that may be connected to

536
00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:07,520
Speaker 3: a ring or hardware or something that's keeping me aligned

537
00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:10,640
Speaker 3: in a tune throughout the day so I can de stress. Right,

538
00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:14,080
Speaker 3: because mental health issues are very high right for me,

539
00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:17,080
Speaker 3: it's easy to just think of like various use cases

540
00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:19,880
Speaker 3: because we got so many problems in the world. The

541
00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:22,240
Speaker 3: question is not why we use it? Why wouldn't we

542
00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:25,440
Speaker 3: use it? Right? That to me is the question. But

543
00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:28,280
Speaker 3: here's the thing that this is why everybody is so

544
00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:32,800
Speaker 3: negative about things is because in their mind, right is

545
00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:37,240
Speaker 3: someone else's narrative. Where do you get your narratives about AI?

546
00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:40,640
Speaker 3: Your attitudes towards AI. The law of attitude, right, when

547
00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:43,560
Speaker 3: you go into that, your attitude creates your positioning, your

548
00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:47,880
Speaker 3: disposition towards things. But your position and disposition towards things

549
00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:55,000
Speaker 3: were informed right by something or someone, and that informing

550
00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:58,800
Speaker 3: was done by the media. AI is the first technology

551
00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:02,560
Speaker 3: that has fifty years of media programming before it was

552
00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:05,840
Speaker 3: released to the public. So everything that we know about it,

553
00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:08,920
Speaker 3: every attitude that we have, is not based on our

554
00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:12,480
Speaker 3: experience of using it. It's based on the attitude that

555
00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:18,120
Speaker 3: was informed to us by media, by publications by scientists. Right. Oh,

556
00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:20,600
Speaker 3: it's going to turn into terminator, Right, it's going to

557
00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:23,520
Speaker 3: be eye robot, It's going to be These are imaginations

558
00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:26,840
Speaker 3: of white men who conjure up crazy ideas about them

559
00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:30,080
Speaker 3: having this ultimate army get in future because they don't

560
00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:33,240
Speaker 3: really believe in organic intelligence they want. They don't believe

561
00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:36,600
Speaker 3: in God, so they don't think about using these machines

562
00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:40,120
Speaker 3: for godly reasons at all. So I can understand if

563
00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:43,360
Speaker 3: we allow them to inform our attitude, of course we're

564
00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:46,800
Speaker 3: going to have a negative position towards it. But if

565
00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:49,840
Speaker 3: I'm informing my own attitude towards something, I'm just thinking

566
00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:51,880
Speaker 3: how can I use it to enhance my position in

567
00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:55,040
Speaker 3: the world, enhance my power control and rulership.

568
00:32:56,840 --> 00:32:58,040
Speaker 1: God, that's fascinating.

569
00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:03,680
Speaker 2: That's really, really, really fascinating. And however we feel about it,

570
00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:06,800
Speaker 2: it's here and it will continue to be and to grow.

571
00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:12,440
Speaker 2: When I think of I guess my thoughts on AI

572
00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:18,640
Speaker 2: are probably mostly led by Black Mirror and watching all

573
00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:21,680
Speaker 2: the sass of it and then like being terrified after

574
00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:27,360
Speaker 2: each episode Calls. You brought up a point that it's

575
00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:29,360
Speaker 2: so interesting to hear all of the ways that you

576
00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:30,080
Speaker 2: broke that down.

577
00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:32,720
Speaker 1: Some of what you were saying. I really think about

578
00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:36,760
Speaker 1: a lot. It's so powerful the way you phrased it.

579
00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:41,400
Speaker 2: You were talking about at every kind of juncture we

580
00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:46,720
Speaker 2: had an ask, right and following that trail, coming into

581
00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:50,000
Speaker 2: the early aughts, that really is significantly where the ass

582
00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:53,000
Speaker 2: kind of stopped. And perhaps some of that is because

583
00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:55,800
Speaker 2: black culture became the leader of pop culture, and maybe

584
00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:59,600
Speaker 2: there was this thought that that leveled things out, or

585
00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:03,200
Speaker 2: because we were influencing all of the markets in all

586
00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:05,800
Speaker 2: of the ways that that somehow meant there was equity

587
00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:12,200
Speaker 2: and equality. But from your view, what should the ask be?

588
00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:15,160
Speaker 1: Now? What is the ask for our communities?

589
00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:19,440
Speaker 2: What is the ask culturally for our spirits, for our minds,

590
00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:25,400
Speaker 2: for existing in a not just still systemically oppressed environment

591
00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:28,400
Speaker 2: in a multitude of ways, but in many states a

592
00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:33,440
Speaker 2: progressively more oppressive systemic system is being built. When I

593
00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:36,320
Speaker 2: think of Florida, when I think of Texas. So what

594
00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:38,279
Speaker 2: do we need to ask for right now?

595
00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:41,600
Speaker 3: I think that it's less of an ask and it's

596
00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:43,960
Speaker 3: more of a demand that we should have for ourselves.

597
00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:49,279
Speaker 3: You know, we are in a political season. Everybody is

598
00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:52,320
Speaker 3: going to try to vote for the lesser evil, whatever

599
00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:57,480
Speaker 3: that means to them, And the question is what are

600
00:34:57,480 --> 00:34:59,279
Speaker 3: you going to get from their vote? What do you

601
00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:01,919
Speaker 3: expect from right? Do you expect the better quality of life?

602
00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:04,840
Speaker 3: Do you expect more opportunities, more jobs? Or do you

603
00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:07,760
Speaker 3: respect that voting for one person is going to lessen

604
00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:11,759
Speaker 3: the tyrant tyrancy of the other. Like, what do we

605
00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:14,600
Speaker 3: even want from it anymore? We're not actually going for

606
00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:17,160
Speaker 3: anything at this point, We're just saying the lesser evil.

607
00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:19,279
Speaker 3: We're still going to get evil. We don't really know

608
00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:20,839
Speaker 3: what's going to be the lesson, but we think this

609
00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:24,640
Speaker 3: is the lesson, right, And it's like, what would happen

610
00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:28,400
Speaker 3: if the same people that utilize their platform to push

611
00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:31,759
Speaker 3: campaigns for either side every year. Where they got all

612
00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:34,760
Speaker 3: of this influence, power, money and resources and they decide,

613
00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:36,399
Speaker 3: I want to pick one of these two old white

614
00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:38,560
Speaker 3: men to go vote for. What if they did that

615
00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:42,839
Speaker 3: to where you know, they propagated young black males and

616
00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:46,640
Speaker 3: females right that are already doing something and they campaign

617
00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:50,759
Speaker 3: for them. Right, Why don't we see that whatsoever? We

618
00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:52,920
Speaker 3: have all of this rage when it comes to somebody

619
00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:56,080
Speaker 3: else being our savior, right, but we have none of

620
00:35:56,080 --> 00:35:58,640
Speaker 3: that same fever when it comes to us saving ourselves.

621
00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:02,920
Speaker 3: So from me, I get frustrated because I see it.

622
00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:06,920
Speaker 3: It's all fake and everybody's controlled by money, right, And

623
00:36:07,160 --> 00:36:09,480
Speaker 3: the only thing that we can demand of ourselves at

624
00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:13,400
Speaker 3: this point is a collective cooperation that we have our

625
00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:15,719
Speaker 3: own agendas because we have all the money, resources and

626
00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:18,160
Speaker 3: technology that we need at this point. The thing is

627
00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:20,920
Speaker 3: we have to build our institutions, right that solve our

628
00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:23,239
Speaker 3: own problems. And the more that we build on this side,

629
00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:25,640
Speaker 3: the less we need on that side. So let's start

630
00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:29,200
Speaker 3: with media, right, I have a high level conversations. Right,

631
00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:32,120
Speaker 3: you mentioned that in the bio right, we probably ours

632
00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:35,440
Speaker 3: is definitely top ten in the world educational platforms and

633
00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:37,840
Speaker 3: the culture. We're number one just as far as numbers,

634
00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:41,120
Speaker 3: subject matter, things of that nature. But me been doing

635
00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:44,239
Speaker 3: this for almost ten years now. I haven't had one

636
00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:47,440
Speaker 3: single person from the black community or white community, brown

637
00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:51,480
Speaker 3: whisoever offer a single hand of assistance in building and

638
00:36:51,520 --> 00:36:54,560
Speaker 3: scaling this thing out. So I have no demands of them.

639
00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:57,080
Speaker 3: I have demands of us. So what does that do?

640
00:36:57,120 --> 00:36:59,279
Speaker 3: And I'm not the only person I know that. That's

641
00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:02,440
Speaker 3: how all your people that's growing up in these generations,

642
00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:04,239
Speaker 3: and they look at it like, hey, you got your wealth,

643
00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:06,239
Speaker 3: you have your money, you got your power, you have

644
00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:10,439
Speaker 3: your individual success. But it means nothing right because your

645
00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:13,520
Speaker 3: individual success, you take that and you put yourself in

646
00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:16,440
Speaker 3: this class, then you separate yourself from everybody else. So

647
00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:20,200
Speaker 3: now we're celebrating your success while it's doing nothing for us,

648
00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:22,920
Speaker 3: and you're pointing most of your dollars into another community.

649
00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:26,879
Speaker 3: Your lawyer, your teams, right, the brands that you spend

650
00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:29,600
Speaker 3: your money on. We brack all day long about how

651
00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:34,000
Speaker 3: celebrities or rappers or entertainers have invested in these companies.

652
00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:37,080
Speaker 3: These are all white companies. I don't see them investing

653
00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:39,640
Speaker 3: into black companies and we know we get no funding,

654
00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:42,520
Speaker 3: so we don't get funding build our own vehicles. Right,

655
00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:45,280
Speaker 3: Robert Smith can give one hundred plus million dollars whatever

656
00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:48,680
Speaker 3: to an HBCU, But also we need to build our

657
00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:52,080
Speaker 3: own media companies, right, So where's that money being fundeled

658
00:37:52,120 --> 00:37:55,359
Speaker 3: into that. It's easy to do the donation route, right,

659
00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:57,520
Speaker 3: but what about the investment route to where we're taking

660
00:37:57,640 --> 00:38:00,600
Speaker 3: risks on each other to build something that we've never had.

661
00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:04,239
Speaker 3: So with all of this money, resources, and power and

662
00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:09,160
Speaker 3: influence that we have at scale, there is no collectiveness whatsoever.

663
00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:12,280
Speaker 3: We look at Hip Hop, all of this power, resource, influence,

664
00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:14,920
Speaker 3: now they're going at each other. Who cares at the

665
00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:18,080
Speaker 3: end of the day. So for me, the only demand

666
00:38:18,080 --> 00:38:20,120
Speaker 3: we can have is on ourselves. What are we going

667
00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:23,400
Speaker 3: to build with our money, influence, power and resource. If

668
00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:26,919
Speaker 3: we're not communicating, creating our own memberships to where we're

669
00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:30,440
Speaker 3: interconnected at least the leaders, the people with the influence,

670
00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:33,160
Speaker 3: the who's who's, then none of the other things matter.

671
00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:35,440
Speaker 3: We have to put the sting back in the culture.

672
00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:39,080
Speaker 3: We have to have science, technology, engineering. The art is

673
00:38:39,120 --> 00:38:41,600
Speaker 3: there already. We got the arts, we have the media,

674
00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:45,839
Speaker 3: we have the entertainment. But who's what about the mathematicians? Right,

675
00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:49,520
Speaker 3: that's nobody else's responsibility but ours. So we can go

676
00:38:49,560 --> 00:38:51,719
Speaker 3: complain about all of these things that we see on

677
00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:55,560
Speaker 3: social media while utilizing our very platform to not solve

678
00:38:55,600 --> 00:38:57,960
Speaker 3: those problems. And we're not saying you have to be

679
00:38:58,040 --> 00:39:01,160
Speaker 3: the person, but why not go look at the people

680
00:39:01,160 --> 00:39:03,960
Speaker 3: who's already doing it and help them scale because no

681
00:39:04,080 --> 00:39:06,719
Speaker 3: other community will leave their heroes out to dry.

682
00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:16,600
Speaker 1: Wow, no other communities will leave their heroes out to drive.

683
00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:21,239
Speaker 3: Our heroes ain't them. If I'm gonna just say it

684
00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:25,920
Speaker 3: like this, once you when you're safe, that means that

685
00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:29,480
Speaker 3: they don't believe you're going to create any disruption towards

686
00:39:29,520 --> 00:39:32,960
Speaker 3: the status quo and what's going on. So they can

687
00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:34,680
Speaker 3: throw you the brand deals, they can throw you the

688
00:39:34,719 --> 00:39:37,239
Speaker 3: ad deals. They will can't allow you in spaces. They

689
00:39:37,239 --> 00:39:40,359
Speaker 3: will let you become very rich because they know you're

690
00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:42,319
Speaker 3: not going to use the resources that they gave you

691
00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:46,879
Speaker 3: against them. So and maybe that's not your job. Your

692
00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:51,320
Speaker 3: job maybe is to take some of those resources network right, information,

693
00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:54,080
Speaker 3: know how and give that to those that they wouldn't

694
00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:57,200
Speaker 3: let up. Because your position can never be coveted and

695
00:39:57,280 --> 00:40:00,400
Speaker 3: can never be safe, right unless you have reinf enforcement

696
00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:03,440
Speaker 3: and power. Right. So it's like in Black America, there's

697
00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:06,799
Speaker 3: two sides of Black America. Right, it's the one that

698
00:40:07,080 --> 00:40:09,680
Speaker 3: is accepted and it's the one that's not. We have

699
00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:11,879
Speaker 3: all of these trigger words and all of this fake

700
00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:14,359
Speaker 3: stuff we talk about die, but we have lack of

701
00:40:14,360 --> 00:40:19,080
Speaker 3: diversity within our own community and representation. Wow, so you

702
00:40:19,120 --> 00:40:22,480
Speaker 3: can expect somebody outside of our culture to do what

703
00:40:22,520 --> 00:40:25,600
Speaker 3: we want to do inside our culture. So for me,

704
00:40:25,760 --> 00:40:28,319
Speaker 3: the demand has to be upon ourselves to where we

705
00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:30,680
Speaker 3: have to stop being a house that's divided, to where

706
00:40:30,680 --> 00:40:33,040
Speaker 3: it's like, Okay, when are you guys going to integrate

707
00:40:33,080 --> 00:40:35,680
Speaker 3: with each other? Right? When are you guys going to

708
00:40:35,719 --> 00:40:40,040
Speaker 3: diversify the representation that you have right within your own culture?

709
00:40:40,200 --> 00:40:42,280
Speaker 3: When are you going to invest in your own systems?

710
00:40:42,280 --> 00:40:44,160
Speaker 3: You keep complaining about us not doing it, but you

711
00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:47,360
Speaker 3: don't even do it, And I'm talking about doing it aggressively,

712
00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:50,279
Speaker 3: right and purposely. They talking about meet with these people.

713
00:40:50,320 --> 00:40:53,040
Speaker 3: They all scared to do anything that matters, and they

714
00:40:53,080 --> 00:40:57,000
Speaker 3: only support people that they can control. So I understand

715
00:40:57,000 --> 00:41:00,000
Speaker 3: the gambit in the game. Right, That's why we respect

716
00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:04,680
Speaker 3: actually independently utilize our creative mind, right, and we utilize

717
00:41:04,680 --> 00:41:07,640
Speaker 3: the resources and the machinery and the technology every day

718
00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:10,400
Speaker 3: to do for self. I don't care whether it's AR

719
00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:13,680
Speaker 3: or social media or the phone or whatever it may be.

720
00:41:13,760 --> 00:41:16,759
Speaker 3: It ain't about the technology itself. It's about what we

721
00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:19,200
Speaker 3: can use as a resource to build our own world.

722
00:41:20,760 --> 00:41:22,200
Speaker 1: Sweet Jesus.

723
00:41:24,920 --> 00:41:30,080
Speaker 2: Oh Man, Wow wow wow.

724
00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:35,760
Speaker 1: Just creating a little integration space. That was a lot,

725
00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:36,439
Speaker 1: and that.

726
00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:45,319
Speaker 2: Was so exploratory, so profound the amount of work we

727
00:41:45,480 --> 00:41:48,959
Speaker 2: have to be really willing and take honor and doing

728
00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:54,560
Speaker 2: within our own communities, right, and also making space for

729
00:41:54,640 --> 00:42:02,120
Speaker 2: the understanding that you're doing a deep prophetic work that

730
00:42:02,239 --> 00:42:04,520
Speaker 2: you may not reap all the benefits of in this

731
00:42:04,680 --> 00:42:07,760
Speaker 2: lifetime and it's still honorable and it's still a worthy

732
00:42:08,440 --> 00:42:08,640
Speaker 2: you know.

733
00:42:10,280 --> 00:42:13,640
Speaker 3: But look what that says use of self, Because it's

734
00:42:13,680 --> 00:42:17,480
Speaker 3: this thing where, you know, the law of reciprocation, you

735
00:42:17,560 --> 00:42:20,759
Speaker 3: can't expect any bounty from the land that you don't

736
00:42:20,760 --> 00:42:24,120
Speaker 3: put in, Right, if you don't plant the seeds and

737
00:42:24,840 --> 00:42:28,040
Speaker 3: you don't till the ground, and you don't do that work,

738
00:42:28,360 --> 00:42:31,359
Speaker 3: then you can't expect nothing back from it, right. But

739
00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:34,360
Speaker 3: it's this idea that when you do good in the world.

740
00:42:34,480 --> 00:42:38,080
Speaker 3: Do not expect your rewards while you're living. But when

741
00:42:38,160 --> 00:42:40,160
Speaker 3: you do nothing for the world, you can respect all

742
00:42:40,160 --> 00:42:44,879
Speaker 3: the return instantly. Right. And I think it is this

743
00:42:45,040 --> 00:42:47,239
Speaker 3: thing to where what it does is it absolves us

744
00:42:47,280 --> 00:42:51,160
Speaker 3: a responsibility in assisting thos that's doing good work. Right,

745
00:42:51,480 --> 00:42:53,600
Speaker 3: you should be doing this selfishly, I am, But that

746
00:42:53,640 --> 00:42:57,439
Speaker 3: doesn't mean I shouldn't also get more resources to scale it. Right.

747
00:42:57,960 --> 00:43:00,920
Speaker 3: It's more so said something about everybody arounds. It's not

748
00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:04,920
Speaker 3: the person, right, Who are we to have the resources

749
00:43:04,920 --> 00:43:08,359
Speaker 3: to influence the platform and see someone doing a tremendous

750
00:43:08,600 --> 00:43:12,000
Speaker 3: good and not a system, right, and then when that

751
00:43:12,080 --> 00:43:14,799
Speaker 3: person wants some reward while they're living, like, oh, I

752
00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:17,359
Speaker 3: thought you was doing this selfishly. I did it till

753
00:43:17,360 --> 00:43:20,360
Speaker 3: I found out that everybody else was selfish, you know

754
00:43:20,360 --> 00:43:22,960
Speaker 3: what I mean? So I think, like I just went

755
00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:25,880
Speaker 3: to Oakland. I flew out there. My brother missed the

756
00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:29,360
Speaker 3: fab Yes stud Therapy and it's a beautiful event, and

757
00:43:29,400 --> 00:43:31,879
Speaker 3: I want to see that scale where you know, it's

758
00:43:31,880 --> 00:43:35,120
Speaker 3: a free event for the community mostly men that show up,

759
00:43:36,560 --> 00:43:39,200
Speaker 3: and you just have these powerhow circuits of men that

760
00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:41,880
Speaker 3: talk about whatever's on their mind and talk about tools

761
00:43:41,880 --> 00:43:43,920
Speaker 3: to help them with their own mental health issues and

762
00:43:44,080 --> 00:43:46,520
Speaker 3: or problems that they deal with. So I went up

763
00:43:46,520 --> 00:43:48,799
Speaker 3: there to a keynote and speak there, and it was

764
00:43:48,840 --> 00:43:53,160
Speaker 3: such a beautiful event. And something like that is easy.

765
00:43:53,200 --> 00:43:56,319
Speaker 3: We talk about mental awareness all day long. We need

766
00:43:56,360 --> 00:44:00,120
Speaker 3: to have events like that skilled all throughout America, and

767
00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:03,080
Speaker 3: that should be such an easy funded thing. But we've

768
00:44:03,160 --> 00:44:08,719
Speaker 3: never seen ever a collective resolve for a problem like that.

769
00:44:08,920 --> 00:44:13,040
Speaker 3: Black men specifically, I want to speak on because and

770
00:44:13,120 --> 00:44:15,120
Speaker 3: the reason I like speaking on black men because I

771
00:44:15,160 --> 00:44:20,279
Speaker 3: feel like we don't have we don't have any representation

772
00:44:20,560 --> 00:44:25,439
Speaker 3: from institutional corporate interest whatsoever. Because who the hell wants

773
00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:28,759
Speaker 3: to empower black men right is to they look at

774
00:44:28,800 --> 00:44:31,960
Speaker 3: it as there's to know one's advantage if black men

775
00:44:32,040 --> 00:44:34,040
Speaker 3: are in power. And what I mean by that is

776
00:44:35,200 --> 00:44:39,200
Speaker 3: we have the highest cancer rates, diabetes rates, heart issue rates,

777
00:44:39,280 --> 00:44:46,360
Speaker 3: high blood pressure, right, violence, second is suicide, right, prison populations,

778
00:44:46,760 --> 00:44:50,200
Speaker 3: you name it. I could keep going depression right in America.

779
00:44:50,640 --> 00:44:54,040
Speaker 3: We number one in all those. Yet I've never seen

780
00:44:54,040 --> 00:44:57,080
Speaker 3: a march for it. I've never seen a corporate campaign

781
00:44:57,200 --> 00:45:00,400
Speaker 3: for it. We're not the face of not one of them, ever,

782
00:45:01,080 --> 00:45:03,920
Speaker 3: so we are always expected to help everyone, and they

783
00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:07,879
Speaker 3: fight while we still have the hardest fight right which

784
00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:09,680
Speaker 3: is dealing with these issues ourselves.

785
00:45:09,719 --> 00:45:10,359
Speaker 1: Absolutely.

786
00:45:10,520 --> 00:45:15,480
Speaker 3: So if black men themselves, we have billionaires and more

787
00:45:15,640 --> 00:45:19,560
Speaker 3: deck of millionaires and people have influenced power and knowledge,

788
00:45:19,680 --> 00:45:22,520
Speaker 3: don't put resources to this problem, how can we expect

789
00:45:22,560 --> 00:45:23,240
Speaker 3: anyone else?

790
00:45:24,120 --> 00:45:24,319
Speaker 2: Right?

791
00:45:24,680 --> 00:45:27,319
Speaker 3: The rest of the world is never going to prioritize us.

792
00:45:27,360 --> 00:45:30,680
Speaker 3: We know this for a fact. Unless this becomes something

793
00:45:30,680 --> 00:45:33,879
Speaker 3: that they can monetize and it benefits they bottom line,

794
00:45:33,920 --> 00:45:37,080
Speaker 3: they're always going to put that profit over people. So

795
00:45:37,320 --> 00:45:39,439
Speaker 3: if we're going back to that demand, if we don't

796
00:45:39,480 --> 00:45:41,600
Speaker 3: have that demand for ourselves, we can't demand that of

797
00:45:41,640 --> 00:45:45,120
Speaker 3: anyone else. And that's why, you know, I was supposed

798
00:45:45,080 --> 00:45:46,800
Speaker 3: to show up with my brothers at new ERAa Detroit

799
00:45:46,880 --> 00:45:48,000
Speaker 3: and I didn't get to make it, and I had

800
00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:49,759
Speaker 3: to double back and go to Oakland and New Area

801
00:45:49,840 --> 00:45:53,480
Speaker 3: Detroit is another my brother Zeke. They go around the

802
00:45:53,480 --> 00:45:56,200
Speaker 3: country and they're like similar to what the Black Panthers

803
00:45:56,200 --> 00:45:58,680
Speaker 3: would be. They're really in the neighborhoods. They're really creating

804
00:45:58,760 --> 00:46:02,520
Speaker 3: safety right for the neighborhood, and they show up when

805
00:46:02,560 --> 00:46:05,320
Speaker 3: they need to. Man that should be funded with tens

806
00:46:05,320 --> 00:46:08,680
Speaker 3: of millions of dollars, not even just from anywhere outside

807
00:46:08,680 --> 00:46:13,200
Speaker 3: by us. Right, we got financial literacy programs, earn your leisure,

808
00:46:13,320 --> 00:46:17,040
Speaker 3: myself and other different people that's doing it. Everybody watches it,

809
00:46:17,080 --> 00:46:20,600
Speaker 3: but who's actually supporting it. Nobody has roting some huge

810
00:46:20,680 --> 00:46:23,600
Speaker 3: check towards it. So when I say the heroes are

811
00:46:23,680 --> 00:46:26,400
Speaker 3: left out to drive, I mean that, right. When you

812
00:46:26,480 --> 00:46:29,279
Speaker 3: do things that is saving our people, When you do

813
00:46:29,360 --> 00:46:33,080
Speaker 3: things that is directly addressing the problems, right, that will

814
00:46:33,120 --> 00:46:35,839
Speaker 3: have a beneficial trickle effect because if you can get

815
00:46:35,880 --> 00:46:39,160
Speaker 3: the minds of these men together, then the families get better, right,

816
00:46:39,239 --> 00:46:41,719
Speaker 3: and now we get to decrease the problems. Now we're

817
00:46:41,719 --> 00:46:44,480
Speaker 3: trying to decrease the recidivism rate. Now we're trying to

818
00:46:44,520 --> 00:46:48,720
Speaker 3: create opportunities and jobs and skill building. Because financial literacy

819
00:46:48,800 --> 00:46:51,640
Speaker 3: is only such a small aspect of the problem. There's

820
00:46:51,640 --> 00:46:54,560
Speaker 3: no jobs, there's no opportunities. Everybody's not going to be

821
00:46:54,600 --> 00:46:57,480
Speaker 3: a creator on social media, right. Everybody doesn't want to

822
00:46:57,480 --> 00:47:00,440
Speaker 3: build a personal brand. Everybody when you take a personal

823
00:47:00,440 --> 00:47:03,000
Speaker 3: assessment of people, they don't have the characteristics and or

824
00:47:03,080 --> 00:47:06,200
Speaker 3: traits to do such a thing. So we don't get

825
00:47:06,239 --> 00:47:10,520
Speaker 3: any funding. So now we should have this high revolutionary

826
00:47:10,520 --> 00:47:14,000
Speaker 3: push towards that revolt is not booming anymore. But that

827
00:47:14,120 --> 00:47:17,400
Speaker 3: media space is empty. What platform that we can go

828
00:47:17,520 --> 00:47:20,800
Speaker 3: to that is essential that we can say, Man, this

829
00:47:20,840 --> 00:47:23,759
Speaker 3: is where I can go and get some meaningful, educational,

830
00:47:23,880 --> 00:47:27,440
Speaker 3: valuable content that is directly owned by black media. There

831
00:47:27,520 --> 00:47:31,800
Speaker 3: is none besides what we're doing right at a larger scale.

832
00:47:31,840 --> 00:47:36,480
Speaker 3: I mean, so once we acknowledge all of these problems exist, right,

833
00:47:36,520 --> 00:47:40,120
Speaker 3: and we ain't even got into spiritual conversations, right, But

834
00:47:40,160 --> 00:47:43,000
Speaker 3: once we acknowledge all these problems exist, and we're not

835
00:47:43,200 --> 00:47:46,319
Speaker 3: actively not saying, hey, you need to have your own thing,

836
00:47:46,360 --> 00:47:48,280
Speaker 3: you need to have No, we have to have collective

837
00:47:48,320 --> 00:47:50,279
Speaker 3: things because that's the problem. They see you shine in

838
00:47:50,320 --> 00:47:53,359
Speaker 3: the one area saying oh he talk of financial literacy, Well,

839
00:47:53,480 --> 00:47:55,360
Speaker 3: let me get my team to start me a program

840
00:47:55,360 --> 00:47:57,480
Speaker 3: over here. You could have took your resources and helped

841
00:47:57,480 --> 00:48:00,400
Speaker 3: them build theirs. We don't need a thousand small things.

842
00:48:00,840 --> 00:48:04,520
Speaker 3: We need huge institutions to curate change. That's real power

843
00:48:04,520 --> 00:48:05,040
Speaker 3: over time.

844
00:48:08,480 --> 00:48:15,719
Speaker 2: Deeply, well, I'm curious you have shared, especially some of

845
00:48:15,760 --> 00:48:19,040
Speaker 2: the depth of the practice that is necessary supportive structures

846
00:48:19,160 --> 00:48:22,960
Speaker 2: to support purpose and to support mission work on Earth

847
00:48:23,120 --> 00:48:24,839
Speaker 2: is something I really believe in, and I.

848
00:48:24,760 --> 00:48:29,879
Speaker 1: Think self care. You know, it's been gentrified and it's

849
00:48:29,960 --> 00:48:33,480
Speaker 1: been kind of taken.

850
00:48:33,239 --> 00:48:36,480
Speaker 2: Into being on trend in mainstream, this idea of self care.

851
00:48:36,520 --> 00:48:39,759
Speaker 2: But I look at it as what is actually necessary

852
00:48:39,800 --> 00:48:43,000
Speaker 2: for the physical human body, for our physiology, for our

853
00:48:43,040 --> 00:48:46,000
Speaker 2: brain health, for our spiritual health. We are having a

854
00:48:46,080 --> 00:48:51,280
Speaker 2: human experience in three specific ways individually at all times,

855
00:48:51,320 --> 00:48:54,840
Speaker 2: which is our mental experience of being human, our emotional

856
00:48:54,880 --> 00:48:59,560
Speaker 2: experience of being human and spiritual, and then our physical

857
00:48:59,600 --> 00:49:04,200
Speaker 2: experience of being here and being human. So what do

858
00:49:04,239 --> 00:49:07,400
Speaker 2: you do for pleasure and delight in your life?

859
00:49:08,880 --> 00:49:18,719
Speaker 3: Pleasure and delight? It sounds like a snack company. I live,

860
00:49:19,600 --> 00:49:24,680
Speaker 3: you know, I do art, my design, I do music.

861
00:49:24,719 --> 00:49:29,239
Speaker 3: On my spare time, I travel, I work out, you know,

862
00:49:29,280 --> 00:49:36,239
Speaker 3: I spend time with friends, socialize. I think that, you know.

863
00:49:36,320 --> 00:49:39,200
Speaker 3: I like to eat. I'm a tourist, so you know,

864
00:49:39,680 --> 00:49:41,280
Speaker 3: you gotta go through the stomach to get.

865
00:49:41,120 --> 00:49:43,600
Speaker 1: To the heart your tour son.

866
00:49:45,320 --> 00:49:46,400
Speaker 3: I gotta check the charts.

867
00:49:46,960 --> 00:49:50,480
Speaker 1: My peoples know, Yeah, what's the moon and the rising?

868
00:49:51,440 --> 00:49:53,800
Speaker 3: I know Burgos in there. I think Leo and Burgos

869
00:49:53,840 --> 00:49:57,480
Speaker 3: in there. Okay, I gotta I got a whole foul

870
00:49:57,520 --> 00:49:59,160
Speaker 3: on myself. I gotta go back and read it.

871
00:50:00,400 --> 00:50:01,040
Speaker 1: I'm curious.

872
00:50:01,160 --> 00:50:03,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, but yeah, I mean that's what I do. I

873
00:50:03,320 --> 00:50:06,280
Speaker 3: think that those are the things that bring me joy.

874
00:50:06,520 --> 00:50:10,880
Speaker 3: You know, traveling, eating, creating, you know, socializing, you know,

875
00:50:11,000 --> 00:50:14,360
Speaker 3: unobliged Muhammad he said, having is money, good homes, friendships,

876
00:50:14,360 --> 00:50:17,040
Speaker 3: of all walks of life. You know, I think about

877
00:50:17,040 --> 00:50:20,680
Speaker 3: those particular areas, but I enjoy what I do. I

878
00:50:20,800 --> 00:50:23,680
Speaker 3: enjoy when i'm when I'm like even when it comes

879
00:50:23,719 --> 00:50:27,440
Speaker 3: to like studying or researching something new, and it excites

880
00:50:27,520 --> 00:50:29,799
Speaker 3: me to learn something and then I get excited to

881
00:50:29,840 --> 00:50:32,239
Speaker 3: teach it. You feel me that, to me is not

882
00:50:32,320 --> 00:50:34,719
Speaker 3: work that I do for profit. That's work that I

883
00:50:34,760 --> 00:50:38,200
Speaker 3: do for passion. You feel me, just because, however, my

884
00:50:38,280 --> 00:50:40,799
Speaker 3: brain is wired to enjoy those things. That's what I

885
00:50:41,080 --> 00:50:44,440
Speaker 3: love to do. Lately, I've been enjoying making music. I've

886
00:50:44,480 --> 00:50:46,799
Speaker 3: been putting together a new book. I've been enjoying the

887
00:50:46,920 --> 00:50:50,480
Speaker 3: process of putting that together. You know, the only things

888
00:50:50,520 --> 00:50:52,120
Speaker 3: that feel like work is when I have to like

889
00:50:52,239 --> 00:50:57,000
Speaker 3: sell stuff, or you know, sometimes when we're traveling for work,

890
00:50:57,040 --> 00:51:00,600
Speaker 3: and you know, these different pockets of putting together business

891
00:51:00,640 --> 00:51:03,520
Speaker 3: processes and systems and meetings and all of that stuff.

892
00:51:03,560 --> 00:51:05,560
Speaker 3: But you know, I don't live a life when I'm

893
00:51:05,560 --> 00:51:08,279
Speaker 3: forced to do anything, So I think all of it

894
00:51:08,320 --> 00:51:09,920
Speaker 3: is enjoyment and delight.

895
00:51:12,040 --> 00:51:14,120
Speaker 2: I love those answers, and I think that that is

896
00:51:14,160 --> 00:51:17,560
Speaker 2: a part that especially for black men, but absolutely men

897
00:51:17,640 --> 00:51:22,839
Speaker 2: in general. It's not necessarily this piece that a lot

898
00:51:22,880 --> 00:51:24,839
Speaker 2: of thought is spent on, and there's not as much

899
00:51:24,920 --> 00:51:28,399
Speaker 2: value seen in that. But pleasure is what God wants

900
00:51:28,440 --> 00:51:30,880
Speaker 2: us to know in this reality as well, you know,

901
00:51:30,960 --> 00:51:32,040
Speaker 2: and I think that there.

902
00:51:31,960 --> 00:51:34,760
Speaker 1: Is no fuel quite like joy if we're.

903
00:51:34,640 --> 00:51:38,160
Speaker 2: Going to feel everything else, right, that's the human experience,

904
00:51:38,239 --> 00:51:43,800
Speaker 2: the challenge, the profound challenge. So often we bypass joy

905
00:51:44,360 --> 00:51:46,040
Speaker 2: because it's like, well, it's not going to last, it's

906
00:51:46,040 --> 00:51:47,319
Speaker 2: not going to stay here. I don't want to let

907
00:51:47,400 --> 00:51:51,160
Speaker 2: myself feel that or get into that. But it's those moments,

908
00:51:51,200 --> 00:51:53,600
Speaker 2: it's those you know, the way that it can fill

909
00:51:53,640 --> 00:51:56,840
Speaker 2: your body that fuels everything else, even if it's just

910
00:51:56,880 --> 00:51:59,640
Speaker 2: for a moment and just for a second. I really

911
00:51:59,640 --> 00:52:01,400
Speaker 2: resonate with a lot of what you were saying, Like

912
00:52:01,480 --> 00:52:03,920
Speaker 2: my idea of a good time is studying one hundred

913
00:52:05,080 --> 00:52:07,560
Speaker 2: or going on a silent retreat like I'm like, oh,

914
00:52:07,680 --> 00:52:09,200
Speaker 2: I'm drooling, like swoon.

915
00:52:09,560 --> 00:52:12,160
Speaker 1: Get me quiet and alone.

916
00:52:13,520 --> 00:52:16,520
Speaker 2: And get me with something fascinating that I could research

917
00:52:16,560 --> 00:52:19,200
Speaker 2: for hours on end.

918
00:52:19,800 --> 00:52:21,360
Speaker 3: So don't get me wrong. I could turn up and

919
00:52:21,400 --> 00:52:22,680
Speaker 3: be outside too sometimes.

920
00:52:22,760 --> 00:52:24,800
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, you at that function.

921
00:52:24,920 --> 00:52:27,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, I can vibe for surely. You know what I'm saying.

922
00:52:27,360 --> 00:52:30,600
Speaker 3: It's just I like to vibe responsibly. So I want

923
00:52:30,640 --> 00:52:32,920
Speaker 3: to feel like I'm celebrating some when I'm outside.

924
00:52:33,040 --> 00:52:34,360
Speaker 1: So what do you do outside?

925
00:52:34,400 --> 00:52:37,160
Speaker 3: What's your vibes might depend on you know, you can

926
00:52:37,239 --> 00:52:40,279
Speaker 3: invite me to a socially vent or some I don't

927
00:52:40,280 --> 00:52:42,760
Speaker 3: have a detailed I like that, but you'd be surprised

928
00:52:42,760 --> 00:52:42,960
Speaker 3: what I.

929
00:52:43,000 --> 00:52:46,279
Speaker 1: Might call up to dancing, like you know you're going from.

930
00:52:46,640 --> 00:52:48,359
Speaker 3: We might gig a little different, you know, I'm talking

931
00:52:48,360 --> 00:52:52,520
Speaker 3: about who might who might do a little something. I'd

932
00:52:52,520 --> 00:52:55,000
Speaker 3: be on my own vibe though, you know. So it

933
00:52:55,040 --> 00:52:57,120
Speaker 3: really depends on my energy when I go out, because

934
00:52:57,160 --> 00:52:59,760
Speaker 3: sometimes I could be introverted. Sometimes I could be extra

935
00:53:00,239 --> 00:53:02,440
Speaker 3: So sometimes I want to observe. Sometime I want to

936
00:53:02,480 --> 00:53:06,160
Speaker 3: be in the mix, feel me. Yeah, So I always

937
00:53:06,200 --> 00:53:09,799
Speaker 3: like to be invited. You know, you invite me even

938
00:53:09,800 --> 00:53:12,200
Speaker 3: if I don't show up. You gotta invite me. I

939
00:53:12,280 --> 00:53:13,400
Speaker 3: like to having those options.

940
00:53:13,520 --> 00:53:15,320
Speaker 1: Oh okay, okay.

941
00:53:15,360 --> 00:53:21,400
Speaker 3: Might not make it, but keep everybody's coming because you're

942
00:53:21,400 --> 00:53:23,000
Speaker 3: going to invite me on that day where I got

943
00:53:23,000 --> 00:53:26,759
Speaker 3: the energy, Like, yes, I'm outside, you feel me. I

944
00:53:26,760 --> 00:53:30,200
Speaker 3: don't believe in like the boxing where you got to

945
00:53:30,200 --> 00:53:33,000
Speaker 3: be some spiritual yogi floating in the room. You know

946
00:53:33,040 --> 00:53:35,000
Speaker 3: what I'm saying, acting like you just cut off from

947
00:53:35,040 --> 00:53:37,880
Speaker 3: the world. No, I could be outside and be spiritual too.

948
00:53:38,239 --> 00:53:41,840
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, Like I totally, you know, one hundred percent

949
00:53:41,920 --> 00:53:45,239
Speaker 3: believe in it being in motion. You feel me. It

950
00:53:45,400 --> 00:53:46,720
Speaker 3: just has to make sense.

951
00:53:47,160 --> 00:53:50,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's what the I mean, what the

952
00:53:50,160 --> 00:53:53,839
Speaker 2: deepest truth of kind of the spiritual journey actually is.

953
00:53:54,080 --> 00:53:56,680
Speaker 2: You know, it's like having fun with the human and

954
00:53:57,280 --> 00:53:58,840
Speaker 2: you know, for what.

955
00:53:58,800 --> 00:54:02,680
Speaker 3: Brings me the most pleasure is taking ideas and seeing

956
00:54:02,719 --> 00:54:05,560
Speaker 3: them come to real life and reality. And I think

957
00:54:05,640 --> 00:54:10,040
Speaker 3: that's the highest level that when it comes to men specifically,

958
00:54:10,440 --> 00:54:14,960
Speaker 3: it's like when you aren't able to take a thought

959
00:54:15,000 --> 00:54:17,120
Speaker 3: out your mind and bring it into reality and you

960
00:54:17,200 --> 00:54:22,960
Speaker 3: don't have that orgasmic pleasure of manifesting something right, that's

961
00:54:23,000 --> 00:54:26,600
Speaker 3: when you distract yourself to supplement that and find full

962
00:54:26,680 --> 00:54:30,080
Speaker 3: pleasure somewhere else, whether it be drugs, whether it be

963
00:54:30,480 --> 00:54:35,319
Speaker 3: you know, sex, whether it be you know, socialization, right,

964
00:54:35,960 --> 00:54:39,840
Speaker 3: entertaining yourself, numbing yourself, whatever it is, you're trying to

965
00:54:39,840 --> 00:54:42,040
Speaker 3: get that pleasure you're not getting from having a well

966
00:54:42,080 --> 00:54:46,719
Speaker 3: working mind, right, because our bodies want that, you know,

967
00:54:46,800 --> 00:54:49,440
Speaker 3: I mean endorphin. We want that joy, We want that release.

968
00:54:49,560 --> 00:54:50,920
Speaker 3: Or it's like we got to get it somewhere.

969
00:54:51,040 --> 00:54:51,160
Speaker 1: Eight.

970
00:54:51,239 --> 00:54:53,520
Speaker 3: Bro, you've got this idea and you can't do shit.

971
00:54:53,600 --> 00:54:56,080
Speaker 3: You better at least satisfy me some kind of way.

972
00:54:56,440 --> 00:55:00,120
Speaker 3: But when it's physical, physical things are always fleeting. When

973
00:55:00,120 --> 00:55:02,440
Speaker 3: it's mental, you can accomplish something and that thought can

974
00:55:02,440 --> 00:55:06,480
Speaker 3: bring you joy million times, right. But sex only go

975
00:55:06,640 --> 00:55:08,719
Speaker 3: bring you joy in that moment, you know what I mean,

976
00:55:08,760 --> 00:55:10,959
Speaker 3: and then you have to have sex again in order

977
00:55:11,000 --> 00:55:14,320
Speaker 3: to satisfy the flesh again. But things of the mind

978
00:55:14,400 --> 00:55:16,719
Speaker 3: and the spirit, they can leave you satisfied for a

979
00:55:16,800 --> 00:55:20,360
Speaker 3: very long time. Right. So that's why accomplishment to me

980
00:55:20,560 --> 00:55:22,840
Speaker 3: is the highest secret pleasure, being able to take a

981
00:55:22,880 --> 00:55:26,160
Speaker 3: thought out your mind and bringing in reality. And that

982
00:55:26,200 --> 00:55:29,200
Speaker 3: to me goes down to the details of you know,

983
00:55:29,640 --> 00:55:31,560
Speaker 3: I got to book them right on now about like

984
00:55:32,239 --> 00:55:34,759
Speaker 3: the laws, different laws of the universe I utilize and

985
00:55:34,840 --> 00:55:39,279
Speaker 3: live by. And you know, I was always taught the

986
00:55:39,440 --> 00:55:43,000
Speaker 3: first law of the universe's motion, second loss order, right,

987
00:55:43,080 --> 00:55:46,120
Speaker 3: So when people think about the law of attraction, they

988
00:55:46,200 --> 00:55:48,200
Speaker 3: never really have a deep seed and in a former

989
00:55:48,280 --> 00:55:51,920
Speaker 3: leg way, and so always think about you know, motion

990
00:55:52,160 --> 00:55:55,520
Speaker 3: is putting yourself into action, going to work. But having

991
00:55:55,680 --> 00:55:59,160
Speaker 3: order is you know, gaining traction. Right, So you go

992
00:55:59,200 --> 00:56:02,560
Speaker 3: from action attraction and then from there it can go

993
00:56:02,680 --> 00:56:05,360
Speaker 3: to when you gain so much traction and you're gaining

994
00:56:05,440 --> 00:56:09,359
Speaker 3: order upon your steps, you produce value and then that

995
00:56:09,440 --> 00:56:13,560
Speaker 3: thing that you're chasing starts to come to you. Right.

996
00:56:14,040 --> 00:56:17,600
Speaker 3: But what happens is on that road there becomes responsibility,

997
00:56:17,680 --> 00:56:21,239
Speaker 3: There becomes accountability, right, it becomes real. And then some

998
00:56:21,280 --> 00:56:23,920
Speaker 3: people instead of moving forward and gaining more attraction to

999
00:56:23,960 --> 00:56:27,040
Speaker 3: attraction and go to distraction. Right, So now I need

1000
00:56:27,080 --> 00:56:29,960
Speaker 3: to distract myself. So now you go to subtraction and

1001
00:56:30,040 --> 00:56:33,200
Speaker 3: taking away from attraction that you gained. So I think

1002
00:56:33,239 --> 00:56:36,040
Speaker 3: about the motion that we have, because everybody want to

1003
00:56:36,040 --> 00:56:39,040
Speaker 3: have motion, but it's more important to have order. Right.

1004
00:56:39,400 --> 00:56:41,880
Speaker 3: So once you order things in a particular way, you

1005
00:56:41,920 --> 00:56:46,000
Speaker 3: can constantly produce value, and you magnetize the things that

1006
00:56:46,040 --> 00:56:48,799
Speaker 3: you want to come to you versus you constantly chasing them.

1007
00:56:49,160 --> 00:56:52,200
Speaker 3: And when you learn to operate in that manner, then

1008
00:56:52,360 --> 00:56:55,359
Speaker 3: you start to have success on a daily basis, right,

1009
00:56:55,400 --> 00:56:58,200
Speaker 3: not just sometimes, but all the time. And so we

1010
00:56:58,320 --> 00:57:01,480
Speaker 3: have to be careful because the world is trying to

1011
00:57:01,520 --> 00:57:04,760
Speaker 3: attract us, and then that attraction can become our distraction.

1012
00:57:05,560 --> 00:57:07,719
Speaker 3: Netflix doesn't want you to be successful and want you

1013
00:57:07,760 --> 00:57:10,319
Speaker 3: to sit on the county watch TV all day. Right.

1014
00:57:11,000 --> 00:57:13,560
Speaker 3: The poor people don't want you to have successful relationships.

1015
00:57:13,600 --> 00:57:16,160
Speaker 3: They want you to beat off to whatever they push it. Right.

1016
00:57:16,560 --> 00:57:19,680
Speaker 3: They don't want you to be focused in gaining traction

1017
00:57:19,800 --> 00:57:23,320
Speaker 3: in life because your success in life represents their failure.

1018
00:57:23,800 --> 00:57:26,560
Speaker 3: You physically eating right and things of that nature. You're

1019
00:57:26,600 --> 00:57:28,600
Speaker 3: not going to the fast food restaurants, You're not buying

1020
00:57:28,600 --> 00:57:31,960
Speaker 3: the unnecessary snacks with fats and things of that nature

1021
00:57:31,960 --> 00:57:34,320
Speaker 3: in it. Now, you're going to be sitting there getting

1022
00:57:34,320 --> 00:57:37,960
Speaker 3: yourself right because your focused about getting your mind, body

1023
00:57:38,000 --> 00:57:42,080
Speaker 3: and spirit aligned with your goal and your vision. So

1024
00:57:42,200 --> 00:57:47,080
Speaker 3: a focused society, right, is dangerous to these institutions, dangerous

1025
00:57:47,120 --> 00:57:50,480
Speaker 3: too big farm, right, it's dangerous to these media companies,

1026
00:57:50,480 --> 00:57:55,560
Speaker 3: it's dangerous to these advertisement companies, so they're directly incentivized

1027
00:57:55,560 --> 00:57:59,680
Speaker 3: to keep you distracted. So we don't even believe in

1028
00:58:00,080 --> 00:58:02,560
Speaker 3: Like when we talk about joy and pleasure, we don't

1029
00:58:02,600 --> 00:58:04,840
Speaker 3: talk about it from a sense of accomplishment. We always

1030
00:58:04,840 --> 00:58:07,920
Speaker 3: talk about it from a sense of distraction. So for me,

1031
00:58:08,120 --> 00:58:10,800
Speaker 3: that's why I think about like, nah, my pure Like

1032
00:58:10,800 --> 00:58:13,440
Speaker 3: if you've seen me doing something successful, that has to

1033
00:58:13,440 --> 00:58:14,160
Speaker 3: be my pleasure.

1034
00:58:14,440 --> 00:58:20,160
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely, that's so good.

1035
00:58:20,720 --> 00:58:23,720
Speaker 2: And to a piece that you were speaking of in

1036
00:58:23,840 --> 00:58:27,200
Speaker 2: terms of like I think, especially when it comes to

1037
00:58:27,280 --> 00:58:30,360
Speaker 2: sexual energy, which our culture and our society is just

1038
00:58:30,560 --> 00:58:33,520
Speaker 2: so led by, but in such an empty and hollow way.

1039
00:58:33,760 --> 00:58:38,240
Speaker 2: So often it's like any energy can be transmuted for

1040
00:58:38,280 --> 00:58:41,280
Speaker 2: your good and for your highest goods. So any energy

1041
00:58:41,320 --> 00:58:46,200
Speaker 2: that's present can be utilized and harnessed for creation's sake.

1042
00:58:46,360 --> 00:58:48,640
Speaker 2: And it's really like what are you creating? What are

1043
00:58:48,640 --> 00:58:51,760
Speaker 2: you using that charge for? You know, even if you

1044
00:58:51,800 --> 00:58:54,560
Speaker 2: feel a charge with another person or a charge towards

1045
00:58:54,960 --> 00:58:58,360
Speaker 2: something or an experience, like the energy is real, So

1046
00:58:58,440 --> 00:59:02,200
Speaker 2: you're feeling the energy and energetic potential of the movement

1047
00:59:02,280 --> 00:59:07,360
Speaker 2: inside of you, And how can you come into a

1048
00:59:07,440 --> 00:59:10,240
Speaker 2: harnessing of that for something that's advancing.

1049
00:59:10,960 --> 00:59:14,640
Speaker 3: I think like that energy. It's like, think about it.

1050
00:59:14,840 --> 00:59:17,280
Speaker 3: How much do we only use the word lust when

1051
00:59:17,280 --> 00:59:20,960
Speaker 3: it comes to like physical sexual attraction? Right? We don't

1052
00:59:21,040 --> 00:59:24,240
Speaker 3: use it when it comes to manifestation. We don't use

1053
00:59:24,280 --> 00:59:26,240
Speaker 3: it when it comes to business. We don't use it

1054
00:59:26,280 --> 00:59:28,880
Speaker 3: when it comes to success. Right. But when we talk

1055
00:59:28,920 --> 00:59:31,760
Speaker 3: about luss, we know it's such a charging and powerful

1056
00:59:31,840 --> 00:59:35,720
Speaker 3: pulling energy. Right. But if we were to say how

1057
00:59:35,760 --> 00:59:38,920
Speaker 3: much do we lust? You know what I'm saying success?

1058
00:59:39,120 --> 00:59:43,160
Speaker 3: How much do we lust you know, manifestation and the

1059
00:59:43,240 --> 00:59:46,120
Speaker 3: creation of things that's in our mind? Right, it doesn't

1060
00:59:46,160 --> 00:59:48,880
Speaker 3: almost even sound right to say that, right, But what

1061
00:59:48,920 --> 00:59:52,160
Speaker 3: we're doing is the energy that's in that word. When

1062
00:59:52,160 --> 00:59:55,280
Speaker 3: we think about it, it's almost something that we can see, right,

1063
00:59:55,440 --> 00:59:57,680
Speaker 3: Like we know what lust looks like, or we use

1064
00:59:57,720 --> 01:00:01,120
Speaker 3: it in a negative blood lust, but we don't use

1065
01:00:01,160 --> 01:00:04,760
Speaker 3: it in a positive whatsoever. But everything has a negative

1066
01:00:04,760 --> 01:00:07,520
Speaker 3: and a positive polarity. That's a lot of polarity. So

1067
01:00:07,760 --> 01:00:11,560
Speaker 3: I think that people don't utilize that energy of us

1068
01:00:11,560 --> 01:00:15,360
Speaker 3: that want for something that you know, attraction that we

1069
01:00:15,480 --> 01:00:18,200
Speaker 3: have for something that energy that pulls us. We don't

1070
01:00:18,320 --> 01:00:22,800
Speaker 3: use it in a powerful and positive way whatsoever. We

1071
01:00:22,960 --> 01:00:26,880
Speaker 3: only use it in these things where we're particularly conjuring

1072
01:00:26,920 --> 01:00:29,600
Speaker 3: on lower desires and not our higher ones. Right. You

1073
01:00:29,640 --> 01:00:32,000
Speaker 3: can love for a better world. I want it so much.

1074
01:00:32,040 --> 01:00:34,160
Speaker 3: I need that right now, and that energy pulls me

1075
01:00:34,240 --> 01:00:36,680
Speaker 3: towards it. You can loves for a better self. But

1076
01:00:37,000 --> 01:00:40,360
Speaker 3: you know, being attracted to something and loving something is

1077
01:00:40,440 --> 01:00:42,400
Speaker 3: different because the us may start it off, but that

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Speaker 3: love keeps it going. Right. So I think that we

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Speaker 3: even need to use some of these terms when we

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Speaker 3: talk about what we want to produce in the world. Right,

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Speaker 3: I would love for a better world? Right? Are we

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Speaker 3: in love with having a better world? Are we in

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Speaker 3: love with having our better selves? Right? Most of the time,

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Speaker 3: we only have less for things, Right, but we don't

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Speaker 3: have a love for them. We want them, and then

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Speaker 3: when we get them, we don't take care of them

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Speaker 3: or we don't treat them.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 3: So, I think that a lot of ourselves have sought

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Speaker 3: the higher selves at different points in our journey. But

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Speaker 3: it was a lust, it wasn't a love. You feel me.

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Speaker 3: We got there for a moment, but then we maintain it.

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Speaker 3: You worked out that day, but then the next day

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Speaker 3: you didn't right, and then you didn't go back again.

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Speaker 3: So for me, you know, love is a frequency that

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Speaker 3: you maintained consistently, right. I love to say what you

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Speaker 3: do frequently becomes your frequency. That's my law frequency. So

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Speaker 3: I think that as you operate, when you're talking about

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Speaker 3: sexual or gasmic energy, right, there is no greater or

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Speaker 3: gasmic energy than really saying I had this in my mind.

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Speaker 3: I brought it from this dimension to that one because

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Speaker 3: it lets me know my mind works right, It lets

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Speaker 3: me know my power, lets me know my willfulness right,

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Speaker 3: and I think that when we operate in that manner,

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Speaker 3: then we correctly aligned.

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Speaker 1: Perfect, amazing powerful.

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Speaker 2: I had the chance to be on nineteen Keys podcast,

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Speaker 2: one of them, and so that will be coming forward

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Speaker 2: at some point in the near future Manifest House, which

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Speaker 2: we had a great conversation, so I'm excited to share

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Speaker 2: that with the world. At the end of every episode,

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Speaker 2: I like to ask the guests to share what I

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Speaker 2: call soul work, so it's something that can be really

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Speaker 2: savored and used and kind of a guidance for processing

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Speaker 2: and integrating this conversation until I meet everyone listening again.

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Speaker 1: Next week. So what is some soul work you'd like

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Speaker 1: to leave with our audience.

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Speaker 3: I will go back to the original point that I

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Speaker 3: made about finding at least thirty minutes to an hour

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Speaker 3: to just sit by yourself and do not block any thoughts,

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Speaker 3: do not take them out, allow whatever comes up to

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Speaker 3: be in your mind, just allow your mind to process.

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Speaker 3: I think in this fast paced world that we live

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Speaker 3: in every day, we don't have enough processing time, right.

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Speaker 3: And that to me, Whether you can go in that

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Speaker 3: room by yourself and you can turn off the lights

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Speaker 3: and you can leave them on there's no sound. You

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Speaker 3: can be sending in your backyard with your shoes off right,

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Speaker 3: grounding with the sun, and it's just listening. Right. There's

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Speaker 3: a book called Stillness Speaks. I remember read that when

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Speaker 3: I was young, and I loved that book so much

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Speaker 3: because I was able to always find stillness no matter

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Speaker 3: what place I was at, no matter how chaotic the world.

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Speaker 3: And it was something simple as looking at a stop

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Speaker 3: sign and a pole that doesn't move, and you can

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Speaker 3: be in a crowd of everyone, and then as you

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Speaker 3: connect to the stillness of this pole, it connects to

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Speaker 3: the stillness in you. You feel me and I believe

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Speaker 3: that allows us to really connect, as I said before,

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Speaker 3: to that God with them right where you have control

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Speaker 3: over yourself, not controlled by anything. And oftentimes when people

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Speaker 3: try to find control in chaotic environments, they self sabotage

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Speaker 3: to try to give themselves a sense of control. But

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Speaker 3: I think a better practice is your stillness. Do not move.

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Speaker 3: That is one thing that you can control. Be in

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Speaker 3: silenced right, find that time to yourself and a lot

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Speaker 3: of things that you learn right. Allow the person that

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Speaker 3: you really are right to sit still within you so

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Speaker 3: you can integrate between your private and your public. You

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Speaker 3: can integrate between your light and your shadow self. Then

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Speaker 3: make a move from that place of stillness.

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Speaker 1: Gorgeous. Thank you so much for joining, Thank you for

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Speaker 1: having me.

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Speaker 2: Check out nineteen keys everywhere he's at. Start on Instagram

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Speaker 2: at nineteen keys high level conversations on YouTube, and you'll

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Speaker 2: be connected to all the pathways from there. As always,

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