WEBVTT - Rachael Leigh Cook

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<v Speaker 1>That's all.

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<v Speaker 2>That's okay because.

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<v Speaker 1>No one here is.

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<v Speaker 3>Hello beat NIX slowly getting there. I can feel it.

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<v Speaker 3>We are inching closer to a name. It's time for

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<v Speaker 3>another installment of teen Beat with me. Danielle Fischel, the

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<v Speaker 3>host of the nineteen ninety eight ABC TGIF premiere party

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<v Speaker 3>featuring the musical stylings of in Sync and an appearance

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<v Speaker 3>from the Olsen Twins. But now decades later, I sit

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<v Speaker 3>down with interesting people to chat about their awkward and

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<v Speaker 3>embarrassing memories from childhood, all in an attempt to learn

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<v Speaker 3>more about their present selves. And I am the perfect

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<v Speaker 3>host because, like I say, I gave you my childhood.

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<v Speaker 2>It's time we hear yours.

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<v Speaker 3>And this week I'm joined by someone else who experienced

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<v Speaker 3>the joy of puberty under the watchful eye of an

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<v Speaker 3>international viewing audience.

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<v Speaker 2>She began her.

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<v Speaker 3>Time in the spotlight at just seven years old in

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<v Speaker 3>a PSA for foster care, though not this one. A

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<v Speaker 3>public service announcement would later become quite a big deal

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<v Speaker 3>in her origin story. But first she'd transition into print

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<v Speaker 3>modeling at age ten, all from the comfy confines of

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<v Speaker 3>her hometown Minneapolis, Minnesota, and when she left behind those

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<v Speaker 3>cold winters and juicy Lucy's for Hollywood. That was the

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<v Speaker 3>moment she became a nineties it girl. She made her

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<v Speaker 3>screen debut in nineteen ninety five's Babysitters Club, a who's

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<v Speaker 3>who of cool girls from the era who bout me

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<v Speaker 3>for the part, But it was nineteen ninety nine's She's

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<v Speaker 3>All That that forever cemented her as a first crush

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<v Speaker 3>for an entire Jar generation, and her starring role in

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<v Speaker 3>two thousand and ones Josie and the Pussycats has outlived

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<v Speaker 3>Us All, a film that has grown from box office

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<v Speaker 3>failure to cult classic, now correctly repositioned as a feminist manifesto.

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<v Speaker 3>But now she's employed her ten thousand hours of experience

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<v Speaker 3>in the industry and lovable personality to move from just

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<v Speaker 3>starring in a dizzying amount of Hallmark movies like Autumn

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<v Speaker 3>and the Vineyard, Sisterhood, Inc. And the recently released Caught

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<v Speaker 3>by Love to also producing her own like minded content

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<v Speaker 3>like Love Guaranteed on Netflix and an upcoming cinematic reunion

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<v Speaker 3>with Freddie Prince Junior that I am currently sat for.

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<v Speaker 3>I can tell you, as someone who has now been

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<v Speaker 3>in rooms with her for four different decades in counting,

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<v Speaker 3>she is always the coolest girl in the room. But

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<v Speaker 3>is it possible that underneath that cool is somehow some

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<v Speaker 3>embarrassment from her formative years. Well it's time to find out.

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<v Speaker 3>Welcome to teen Beat, the one, the only Rachel Lee.

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<v Speaker 1>Cook Danielle Fischel. That was the nicest intro I've ever

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<v Speaker 1>gotten in my life. I don't even care that it's

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<v Speaker 1>not true most of it. I'm not cool, You're You're

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<v Speaker 1>so oh my.

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<v Speaker 2>God, You've always been cool, truly.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, I'm trying to be like Hallmark cool. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I am like I never felt cool. I was such

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<v Speaker 1>a little try hard too, Like am embarrassing really.

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<v Speaker 2>In one way, and you never came across that way.

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<v Speaker 3>Just so you know, we apparently cannot understand how we

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<v Speaker 3>are perceived by others because you did not seem like

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<v Speaker 3>a try hard at all.

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<v Speaker 2>To me.

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<v Speaker 3>You actually were the definition of effortlessly cool. So, I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>I can't even imagine you had one awkward moment as

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<v Speaker 3>a teenager. But we are going to search, and I

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<v Speaker 3>hope to find something. Let's start in Minnesota. Okay, you

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<v Speaker 3>were in no way a Nepo baby. You was a

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<v Speaker 3>cooking instructor and your dad was a stand up comedian

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<v Speaker 3>turned social worker. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Much heavier on the social worker for sure.

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<v Speaker 2>But did you ever get to see your dad on stage?

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<v Speaker 1>I did, luckily, really shined in very clean material, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>even before like you know, Seinfeld was a household name

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<v Speaker 1>and things like that, there was my dad just bringing

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<v Speaker 1>it basically with the dad jokes on stage. It was

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<v Speaker 1>pretty adorable if I love that. Yeah, And I know

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<v Speaker 1>that my dad is one of the most beloved humans

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<v Speaker 1>to this day. He's doing great thing. I get messages

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes saying like, hey, mister cook, you don't really helped

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<v Speaker 1>me a lot when I was in junior high. And

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<v Speaker 1>I hope your dad's doing good.

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<v Speaker 3>As a social worker. Yes, the impact he made on people,

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<v Speaker 3>that's so special.

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<v Speaker 1>He was it Olson Junior High for a very long

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<v Speaker 1>time and Mannesota. Wow. So yeah, amazing guy. What was

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<v Speaker 1>the question? I'm just happy to see you again.

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<v Speaker 2>It's so nice to be in the same room with you.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, sometimes when parents are trying to make it

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<v Speaker 3>in the industry and then don't, they're not necessarily super encouraging.

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<v Speaker 2>What were your parents supportive of your dream?

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<v Speaker 1>I think literally My dad is just someone who liked

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<v Speaker 1>to laugh and make people laugh. And there was a

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<v Speaker 1>comedy club I think three blocks from my house. So

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<v Speaker 1>I think it was a passion of convenience. Okay, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't. I don't know. I don't think he was

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<v Speaker 1>ever going to try and take it on the road.

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<v Speaker 2>He wasn't going to try to be famous.

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<v Speaker 1>No, no, no, no, no no. But he also just

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<v Speaker 1>loved comics and you know who isn't intrigued by that world. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>So I think he liked hanging with the people a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit, and I think they found my dad adorable

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<v Speaker 1>and non threatening, which he definitely is, even though very smart.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think that, you know, they sort of liked

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<v Speaker 1>having him as a friend, and he maintained some of

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<v Speaker 1>those friendships with you know, a couple of them.

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<v Speaker 2>That's so cute. And you have a younger brother, Ben,

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<v Speaker 2>who's a producer.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, did you ever meet Ben back in the day.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think I did.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, I don't think I met your brother.

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<v Speaker 2>I know, I don't. I don't think.

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<v Speaker 1>So. All right, we'll get around to that. Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>Were you guys always close growing up?

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<v Speaker 1>Not always? Okay, it was a weird thing for my brother,

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<v Speaker 1>who's two and a half years younger than me, to

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<v Speaker 1>sort of all of a sudden have his sister disappear

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<v Speaker 1>for what he's told is going to be a couple

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<v Speaker 1>month adventure, you know, doing this thing. It's an amazing opportunity.

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<v Speaker 1>She's going to go make this movie. And I think

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<v Speaker 1>he was like, well, mom's going to like just leave me.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm twelve and this doesn't feel great, but like, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I understand that this is a special thing. Cool. And

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<v Speaker 1>then I think before Ben kind of knew it, like

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<v Speaker 1>I had kind of hijacked my mom away from him,

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<v Speaker 1>which is the coolest thing in the World's great mom

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<v Speaker 1>and my dad's a great dad. But Ben tells me

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<v Speaker 1>about you know, the odd day and just like a

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<v Speaker 1>you know, sort of hot Minnesota summer afternoon where my

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<v Speaker 1>dad just not knowing what to do or how to

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<v Speaker 1>full time dad. We're just knock kind of store and

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<v Speaker 1>be like do you want soup? Right? Or like what

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<v Speaker 1>do I do?

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<v Speaker 2>He soup? It seems like a thing I could feed you,

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<v Speaker 2>I could hit right.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, So when you say like were we always friends?

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<v Speaker 1>We were doing a normal amount of sibling fighting before

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<v Speaker 1>I sort of fell into, you know, what became my career, right,

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<v Speaker 1>But I think in a weird way was great for

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<v Speaker 1>our friendship because when we were able to truly reunite

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<v Speaker 1>and spend time together, we were almost legal adults. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, now we're incredibly close. So that's that's a blessing.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, my brother and I have a little similar situation

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<v Speaker 3>because you know, I started on.

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<v Speaker 2>Boy Meets World at twelve. He's four years younger than me.

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<v Speaker 3>So around the time of eight, you know, my dad

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<v Speaker 3>had a full time job, so my dad was always gone, wow,

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<v Speaker 3>and my mom had to be on set with me,

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<v Speaker 3>which meant we hired a live in housekeeper so that

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<v Speaker 3>someone could be home to let my brother in after school,

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<v Speaker 3>and then you know, he'd only be home alone for

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<v Speaker 3>a couple hours before my mom would come back and

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<v Speaker 3>then I'd maybe drive back with Ryder or Ben. But still, similarly,

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<v Speaker 3>my brother'd be like, wait, what, so mom's just on

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<v Speaker 3>set now with you? And he was really young and

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<v Speaker 3>he's eight, and so yeah, that was that was hard.

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<v Speaker 3>Or then you know, going out to dinner for his

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<v Speaker 3>birthday to Ruby's Diner and then having a long line

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<v Speaker 3>of people coming up and asking from my autograph, and.

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<v Speaker 2>He'd be like, why do people like you so much?

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<v Speaker 1>You know? So just I know, but but I know

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<v Speaker 1>that that's it's hard because you're also just like you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you're you're special, you know. And I'm sure that like

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<v Speaker 1>did he do that thing where he was like, well

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<v Speaker 1>maybe I should cry? Acting?

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely?

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<v Speaker 3>How that he did not like it? He did not

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<v Speaker 3>like the audition process. And you know what's funny is

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<v Speaker 3>that I feel like my brother, My brother booked a

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<v Speaker 3>role in a movie once where he played. I think

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<v Speaker 3>he didn't have any lines, but he was like a

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<v Speaker 3>kid who is like running or playing in the street

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<v Speaker 3>and then got hit by a car.

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<v Speaker 2>Did you do a movie? I feel like he was

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<v Speaker 2>a movie you were in?

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<v Speaker 1>Eleven fourteen?

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<v Speaker 3>No, I think it had the word angel in it.

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<v Speaker 3>My brother was an eighteenth angel. Was there a kid

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<v Speaker 3>who gets hit by a car at the end?

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<v Speaker 1>Probably?

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<v Speaker 2>I think that was my brother.

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<v Speaker 1>Get out. That's wild. But he didn't love acting. No,

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<v Speaker 1>when did you guys? You know? Hopefully like reconnect build

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<v Speaker 1>a Bridge.

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<v Speaker 3>We It didn't really cause too many problems between my

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<v Speaker 3>brother and I. It was just something that, like I

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<v Speaker 3>realized later, he dealt with that, you know, impacted his

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<v Speaker 3>self worth. And so those are things that now, as

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<v Speaker 3>full grown adults who are very capable of naval gazing,

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<v Speaker 3>we have been able to look back and be like,

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<v Speaker 3>that must have been so painful for you and for

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<v Speaker 3>him to talk through some of that.

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<v Speaker 1>Ye.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's nice because I also can take responsibility for

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<v Speaker 3>things that were in the past, like, but it's not

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<v Speaker 3>my fault, you know, that feeling of like I didn't

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<v Speaker 3>do it on purpose, but it doesn't matter, Like, yeah, no.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's that's so well said. And you have two kids.

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<v Speaker 2>I have two kids, And.

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<v Speaker 1>How conscious are we as parents of two, of being

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<v Speaker 1>like fair all the time? Yes, because it's so hard

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<v Speaker 1>when one of them really strongly feels like you're favoring

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<v Speaker 1>or love the other one more. It's like one of

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<v Speaker 1>the worst feelings.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes it is.

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<v Speaker 3>And I boy, I don't even give one of them

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<v Speaker 3>a compliment about something without saying a compliment at the

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<v Speaker 3>exact same time for something different can totally be different.

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<v Speaker 3>I want to highlight their differences. I don't want them

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<v Speaker 3>to feel like they have to be the same. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, when one of them does really great at

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<v Speaker 3>baseball and the other one's good at watching baseball without

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<v Speaker 3>getting in trouble.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, Adler, what a game man. Your focus was

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<v Speaker 2>on fire.

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<v Speaker 3>And Keaton you were the best listener of any other

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<v Speaker 3>kid I saw there. But like I so, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>whatever you have to come up with, just make them

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<v Speaker 3>feel like not one of them's more popular than the other.

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<v Speaker 1>I know. I'm always like, they're gonna bust me on

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<v Speaker 1>just balancing it out now that they're older. You know

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<v Speaker 1>what I mean. If Charlie's like, I got a hundred

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<v Speaker 1>on my test and I'm like, that's amazing, honey, and THEO,

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<v Speaker 1>I know you said something funny today, but he's amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's just you know, in any given moment, you

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<v Speaker 1>know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, it's just hard.

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<v Speaker 3>It's very hard for sure. Now in Minnesota, you did

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<v Speaker 3>a ton of print work. You were on the box

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<v Speaker 3>of milk bones. I think that's so doesn't get any

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<v Speaker 3>bigger than milk bones.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, it does get you made fun of. I bet

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<v Speaker 1>it did any kid comments like which one's the dog?

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<v Speaker 1>And you know there's that. It was a classic okay,

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<v Speaker 1>but I think people just didn't kind of know what

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<v Speaker 1>to make of it, like it's not like that kind

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<v Speaker 1>of stuff. You know, it makes you think you are

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<v Speaker 1>gonna transition it into something like acting. You know. It

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<v Speaker 1>just sort of feels like like there's always a point

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<v Speaker 1>of reference, like for me and I'm sure with you too.

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<v Speaker 1>There was like a girl in my school shout out

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<v Speaker 1>Stephanie Watson, ooh, may help to me knowing that bigger

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<v Speaker 1>things were possible for me in that world. Yeah, she

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<v Speaker 1>had done print work, and I was like, well, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>if she could, I could, And then you know, just

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<v Speaker 1>sort of found other revenues to keep going.

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<v Speaker 2>Jessica Wesson is mine exactly. Yeah, so thank you, Thank

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<v Speaker 2>you to them and Stephanie.

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<v Speaker 1>Right. So yeah, I think it's not like I felt

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<v Speaker 1>like I was, you know, this runaway success at print work.

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<v Speaker 1>But it was the height of success that I could

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<v Speaker 1>imagine was being in the target ads. I was just like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>those glossy pages when they would come in in the Sunday.

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<v Speaker 3>Pay beautiful and didn't you like look forward to them anyway?

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<v Speaker 3>And now you're like, I'm in them.

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<v Speaker 1>I think about three times. No more, don't want to

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<v Speaker 1>like see like I have a big head about it,

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<v Speaker 1>but but yeah, felt huge to me and I still

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<v Speaker 1>have such a soft spot for Target because well, honestly,

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<v Speaker 1>who doesn't.

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<v Speaker 3>What mom's our age or not regularly thinking about the

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<v Speaker 3>things they need to get from Target at all times.

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<v Speaker 3>And then you start looking toward Los Angeles. How did

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<v Speaker 3>traveling to LA come together? And how long did you

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<v Speaker 3>live at the oak Woods?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, I can't we're we were fully at the oak

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<v Speaker 1>Woods at the same time. We swam in that pool.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember. I don't remember who was living there, but

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<v Speaker 1>I know we were both there me too.

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<v Speaker 2>So I must have been visiting someone.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I know you were there at least one time.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean I've been there a few times. Writer lived there, obviously, of.

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<v Speaker 1>Course, I'm sure that was it.

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<v Speaker 3>Will lived there, Shane there you biquitous? Okay, So Shane

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<v Speaker 3>was there, Yeah, Jessica Biell was there, really, Yeah, she's amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>I did not live there, I was, Okay. So I still,

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<v Speaker 1>after all of these years, Daniel, have not gotten good

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<v Speaker 1>at telling my origin story of like how I got to,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, like survive in the industry. But basically I

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<v Speaker 1>was still with this print agency after it was sort

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<v Speaker 1>of becoming a parent that I was gonna keep, not

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<v Speaker 1>make it past five to two or going to any

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<v Speaker 1>mild model exactly. And I was looking for opportunities in

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<v Speaker 1>the acting world that were not like musicals, because I

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<v Speaker 1>was really aware that singing and dancing were not going

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<v Speaker 1>to be like my.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, you were not a triple threat.

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<v Speaker 1>I barely a single stop. It was that we're not

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<v Speaker 1>in home run territory, and so I just sort of

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<v Speaker 1>was on the lookout for that. And I think there

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<v Speaker 1>was both an ad in the classified section of the paper,

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<v Speaker 1>which again we all sat around read as family for like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, young actors needed. My mom was like, these

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<v Speaker 1>are a scam. Some of them were like John Casablanca's nonsense,

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<v Speaker 1>and some of them were like legit auditions for local,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, cool little movies that were being made. And

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<v Speaker 1>I think it came through my agency, but it also

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<v Speaker 1>might have been that. And I got a part in

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<v Speaker 1>a short film that was shooting locally with an awesome

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<v Speaker 1>team shout out Peter Siebertson, and gave me my first

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<v Speaker 1>role despite me having no idea how to act. Really,

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<v Speaker 1>I just remember I came into the room. He was

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<v Speaker 1>sitting on, you know, sort of a stool, and he

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<v Speaker 1>read his lines in a very even tone, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and just seemed very calm, and I was like, I

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<v Speaker 1>should probably just do that.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just going to match that.

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<v Speaker 1>And then so now I just got cast in this movie.

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<v Speaker 1>And then before I knew it, I had tape. And

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<v Speaker 1>back in the day, the hardest thing is you couldn't

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<v Speaker 1>get tape if you didn't have an agent, and you

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<v Speaker 1>couldn't get an agent if you didn't have tape. So

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<v Speaker 1>before I knew it, I had broken through one of

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<v Speaker 1>the hardest parts of like how to. So there was

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<v Speaker 1>a woman who was a manager who was scouting. She

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<v Speaker 1>was new to being manager. She had just come over

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<v Speaker 1>from the record industry, so was establishing herself with a

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<v Speaker 1>crop of new younger actors she already represented at that point.

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<v Speaker 1>Some a boy, a kid who had been in Iron

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<v Speaker 1>Will was shot in Minnesota, and funny enough, Brian Crusing

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<v Speaker 1>was in that movie. His mom worked with my dad

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<v Speaker 1>in the school system. Wow, I know. And so she

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<v Speaker 1>could like marry pouch I know for this woman Beverly Strong. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you Beverly who saw some kind of potential in me,

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<v Speaker 1>as did her other young client, Vinnie karthiser of mad Men, Famine,

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<v Speaker 1>many other things, incredible talent, love you crazy, Vinnie. And

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<v Speaker 1>he and she were like, I think this girl might

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<v Speaker 1>have something, you know, like we you know, see if

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<v Speaker 1>we have some tape. He was sort of like her

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<v Speaker 1>little confident. I almost feel like at that time, and

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<v Speaker 1>I went out to LA and stayed with this manager

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<v Speaker 1>with my parents blessing on my spring break from school.

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<v Speaker 2>And how old were you?

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<v Speaker 1>I was fifteen? Fifteen me on audition for The Babysitters Club,

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<v Speaker 1>despite having very little experience, and many many months later

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<v Speaker 1>I found out I got the part after auditioning for

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<v Speaker 1>several different people in the movie.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, what a leap of faith that paid off.

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<v Speaker 1>Exactly, And that just it just goes to show it's

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<v Speaker 1>not life like a just like a long hallway of

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<v Speaker 1>doors that you're just like, if I don't try to

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<v Speaker 1>open this maybe right, like I don't know if it's

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<v Speaker 1>going to open. It's like I tried a doorknob and open,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>We're still here to I know, we're still here.

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<v Speaker 1>I know, Oh my god.

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<v Speaker 3>And it's and so much of it is not just

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<v Speaker 3>the opening of the doorways, but the risk versus reward

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<v Speaker 3>of opening each doorway. You know, It's like for your

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<v Speaker 3>parents and for you. It was like, Okay, I do

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<v Speaker 3>need people to vouch for these people because I am

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<v Speaker 3>sending my fifteen year old across the country and and

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<v Speaker 3>so you go, well, all right, other people have vouched

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<v Speaker 3>for these people. So the risk feels less now and

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<v Speaker 3>the reward seems great. But the amount of risk management

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<v Speaker 3>you're doing with very little education in the industry.

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<v Speaker 1>Imagine doing that now with your kids. Like, I know

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<v Speaker 1>we have cell phones now, I cannot imagine. No, did

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<v Speaker 1>you instigate your like, you know, entry to acting.

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<v Speaker 2>I did.

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<v Speaker 3>Jessica Wesson was you know in the industry. I had

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<v Speaker 3>an agent, was going to be a model.

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<v Speaker 2>I was.

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<v Speaker 3>My mom was like, you can't be a model. You're

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<v Speaker 3>very short, and was like, right, well, I mean so

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<v Speaker 3>are you. She was not common. My mom was not

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<v Speaker 3>trying to say I wasn't cute enough. She was just

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<v Speaker 3>like Danielle my mom's five feet even, and she was

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<v Speaker 3>like the hopes for you of like I don't think

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<v Speaker 3>she even knew print was a thing. It was just like,

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<v Speaker 3>come on, now, you're not going to walk a runway.

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<v Speaker 3>We're not even going down. And so I went back

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<v Speaker 3>and told Jessica I can't do that because I'm too short,

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<v Speaker 3>and she goes, oh, yeah, that's true.

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<v Speaker 1>Damn it, Jessica.

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<v Speaker 3>But she was like, you know what, you don't have

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<v Speaker 3>to be told to be on TV. And my agent's

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<v Speaker 3>also going to put me on TV. And that's all

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<v Speaker 3>I needed to know. And so for a year I

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<v Speaker 3>just kept begging and eventually my parents let me do

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<v Speaker 3>it as.

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<v Speaker 1>Girls girl right there. I love that.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, she was like, yeah, don't let that stop

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<v Speaker 3>you try something else. So Babysitters Club, it's your first

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<v Speaker 3>like real movie job. And if you didn't have friends

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<v Speaker 3>in LA because you had only been there for the audition.

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<v Speaker 1>I really did not.

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<v Speaker 3>They basically cast you a dozen Bree Blair, Skylar Fist,

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<v Speaker 3>Beazelda Harris, Marla Sokoloff, Larissa Olenik, Vanessa Zeema, Natanya Ross.

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<v Speaker 3>Some of these girls had been acting in Hollywood at

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<v Speaker 3>this point for a decade.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, I remember Larissa seemed very fancy. Yeah, she was

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<v Speaker 1>like she had headlined her whole own show for many years.

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<v Speaker 1>Like that was wild to me. And Zelda, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>being like the girl from Crooklyn. Everyone knew that movie,

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<v Speaker 1>like everyone knew it was like this respected movie. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it was kind of intimidating for sure.

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<v Speaker 2>What was it like for you as your first job.

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<v Speaker 1>I think I told myself diminished things about my role

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<v Speaker 1>in things now. I was familiar with the books. I

0:20:06.240 --> 0:20:08.760
<v Speaker 1>think a lot of us were of our generation, but

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, well, Skyler's the lead, and nobody really

0:20:13.119 --> 0:20:15.760
<v Speaker 1>wants to be Maryanne. I'm just sort of like here

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<v Speaker 1>because probably it was just sort of like low key

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<v Speaker 1>the easier part to get get. I was probably telling myself,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, things to sort of like undercut the win,

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<v Speaker 1>to not be intimidated by the moment. But it was

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<v Speaker 1>also just so surreal that, you know, when you sort

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<v Speaker 1>of get those first opportunities or even the ones that

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<v Speaker 1>sort of surprise you, you sort of have to compartmentalize

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<v Speaker 1>it over here, like I'm not really sure that this

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<v Speaker 1>is real, so I'm not gonna take it all in

0:20:46.080 --> 0:20:48.479
<v Speaker 1>at the moment. Yes, So it was kind of like

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<v Speaker 1>if that makes any sense. But yeah, I didn't have

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<v Speaker 1>friends while I was there, and yeah, I got delivered

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<v Speaker 1>some and I was probably at the time, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>closest with while we were filming filming Tricia, Joe and

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<v Speaker 1>Larissa and Brie. I feel like Skyler had to do

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<v Speaker 1>more schools, we didn't see as much of her, so

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<v Speaker 1>she and I became friends almost in the after. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I wish that we had been able to sort of

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<v Speaker 1>like keep in touch and keep that going, because even

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<v Speaker 1>though I got to be a part of that movie

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<v Speaker 1>which was so much about female friendship and the power

0:21:25.520 --> 0:21:27.800
<v Speaker 1>of it, and then years later to make Josie and

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<v Speaker 1>make incredible friends out of that, it's, as you know,

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<v Speaker 1>hard as hell, so like to keep in touch, in touch,

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<v Speaker 1>keep people in your life. And what followed those movies

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<v Speaker 1>about amazing friendships were really lonely times. I'm sure you

0:21:42.600 --> 0:21:45.199
<v Speaker 1>know experienced that as well. You have this life that

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<v Speaker 1>people think that they want and you're like, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think you really know what's going on.

0:21:50.640 --> 0:21:52.040
<v Speaker 2>Yes, yes, for sure.

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<v Speaker 3>And friends in the industry versus friends outside the industry.

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<v Speaker 3>For me, I had the benefit of living I was

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<v Speaker 3>from here, Well, I didn't.

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<v Speaker 2>Friendships within the.

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<v Speaker 3>Industry where you meet on a set and you love

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<v Speaker 3>each other and you have a great time working together,

0:22:07.280 --> 0:22:10.199
<v Speaker 3>those are harder to maintain, yes, because everyone goes on

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<v Speaker 3>to the next set. Now there's new relationships they have

0:22:12.400 --> 0:22:15.040
<v Speaker 3>to make, and they're preoccupied with everything else that goes on.

0:22:15.400 --> 0:22:17.879
<v Speaker 3>But I always went back to my high school. I

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<v Speaker 3>always so I had the same group of friends from

0:22:20.359 --> 0:22:21.600
<v Speaker 3>junior high and high school.

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<v Speaker 2>Well they are still and they were supportive, and they're.

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<v Speaker 3>Still my best friends today, and so I at least

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<v Speaker 3>had that. When your friends are all in Minnesota and

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<v Speaker 3>now you're in LA which is not notorious for being

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<v Speaker 3>a great place to meet people, it can be really difficult,

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<v Speaker 3>especially as a teenager.

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<v Speaker 1>Difficult. Yeah, I mean, like I when I started, it

0:22:45.080 --> 0:22:48.679
<v Speaker 1>was at this transition from you know, eighth grade into

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<v Speaker 1>the probably the biggest high school in Minneapolis. My graduating

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<v Speaker 1>class was close to twelve hundred.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow.

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<v Speaker 1>So it was like I was I had just sort

0:22:58.960 --> 0:23:01.399
<v Speaker 1>of been plunged into this. See I was there barely

0:23:01.440 --> 0:23:05.040
<v Speaker 1>a full year before everything started, okay, and so it

0:23:05.080 --> 0:23:06.960
<v Speaker 1>was a time of great transition wherever it was going.

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<v Speaker 1>But who are we going to be friends with in

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<v Speaker 1>high school? You know what I mean? That which is normal,

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<v Speaker 1>And I didn't feel like abandoned or anything like that,

0:23:14.520 --> 0:23:19.360
<v Speaker 1>but it was hard to talk about, you know, the

0:23:19.359 --> 0:23:22.280
<v Speaker 1>the luck that had come my way and the fascinating

0:23:22.280 --> 0:23:25.720
<v Speaker 1>opportunities that had come my way while being myself the

0:23:25.720 --> 0:23:28.600
<v Speaker 1>way I was raised, which is Minnesotan to the core,

0:23:28.880 --> 0:23:32.359
<v Speaker 1>like just keep keep it down. Yeah, you know what

0:23:32.359 --> 0:23:34.960
<v Speaker 1>I mean, like be chill, be great. They don't talk

0:23:35.000 --> 0:23:38.000
<v Speaker 1>about it. Yeah, and people were curious, you know what

0:23:38.080 --> 0:23:42.000
<v Speaker 1>I mean. So it's it just became confusing what was

0:23:42.000 --> 0:23:44.360
<v Speaker 1>my nature to not want to talk about it and

0:23:44.520 --> 0:23:47.560
<v Speaker 1>what was also just what was sort of understood.

0:23:47.680 --> 0:23:50.159
<v Speaker 3>We've talked about it on Podmeats World before, that feeling

0:23:50.240 --> 0:23:56.320
<v Speaker 3>of like and the very reality of friends wanting to

0:23:56.400 --> 0:23:59.360
<v Speaker 3>know more, kids wanting to know more. But also if

0:23:59.400 --> 0:24:02.159
<v Speaker 3>you talk about it, then you're bragging. So it's a

0:24:02.200 --> 0:24:05.159
<v Speaker 3>real catch twenty two where you get it, yeah you can.

0:24:05.280 --> 0:24:06.320
<v Speaker 2>There's no real win.

0:24:06.400 --> 0:24:09.240
<v Speaker 3>It's like if I talk about it, oh she thinks

0:24:09.280 --> 0:24:11.639
<v Speaker 3>she's so full, and if you don't talk about it,

0:24:11.680 --> 0:24:12.520
<v Speaker 3>she's too cool.

0:24:13.000 --> 0:24:14.080
<v Speaker 2>There's no real win.

0:24:14.119 --> 0:24:17.400
<v Speaker 1>Complee bat. I'm glad that. I mean, I I storry

0:24:17.440 --> 0:24:19.880
<v Speaker 1>to make you like cover ground you've covered on your

0:24:20.040 --> 0:24:25.479
<v Speaker 1>numerous other projects. But I remember the when I saw you,

0:24:25.480 --> 0:24:28.320
<v Speaker 1>you know, ten years ago, randomly, I think when we

0:24:28.320 --> 0:24:32.439
<v Speaker 1>were out at Bobby Kim's stair so fun and I

0:24:32.480 --> 0:24:34.680
<v Speaker 1>was just like Danielle, I was just like so excited

0:24:34.680 --> 0:24:37.240
<v Speaker 1>to see you because again, when you're like, I didn't

0:24:37.320 --> 0:24:41.639
<v Speaker 1>have the you sort of had a haphazard high school experience,

0:24:41.800 --> 0:24:45.040
<v Speaker 1>but my sort of absence of one made me create

0:24:45.400 --> 0:24:49.240
<v Speaker 1>like this belief that people like you did go to

0:24:49.320 --> 0:24:53.280
<v Speaker 1>high school with me. You don't know this, but that's.

0:24:53.040 --> 0:24:55.080
<v Speaker 2>How I was in our school experience.

0:24:55.160 --> 0:24:56.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's like, well, I mean what I described nineties

0:24:58.280 --> 0:25:02.400
<v Speaker 3>con as being a high school reunion, it is our reunion.

0:25:02.040 --> 0:25:05.240
<v Speaker 1>Yes exactly, and very much forward to going later.

0:25:05.400 --> 0:25:08.000
<v Speaker 2>Yes, it's fantastic.

0:25:08.240 --> 0:25:12.359
<v Speaker 3>It's such a warm and fun place to run into

0:25:12.400 --> 0:25:15.360
<v Speaker 3>the people you may have only met a handful of times,

0:25:15.560 --> 0:25:17.919
<v Speaker 3>or sometimes there are people you think of as being

0:25:18.720 --> 0:25:22.560
<v Speaker 3>my that's my friend, I know that person for you know,

0:25:22.680 --> 0:25:25.360
<v Speaker 3>and then you haven't maybe talked or seen each other

0:25:25.400 --> 0:25:28.720
<v Speaker 3>in a few years. It's it's really incredible. You guys

0:25:28.760 --> 0:25:31.600
<v Speaker 3>did do a babysitters reunion in twenty eighteen, right.

0:25:31.560 --> 0:25:35.000
<v Speaker 1>Yes, we did. It was so wild. A lot of

0:25:35.119 --> 0:25:38.040
<v Speaker 1>us had very very young kids at the time, and yeah,

0:25:38.040 --> 0:25:41.919
<v Speaker 1>we met up and let's say Austin, Yeah, and watched

0:25:41.920 --> 0:25:44.639
<v Speaker 1>the movie there and they made the mistake of giving

0:25:44.680 --> 0:25:49.080
<v Speaker 1>us some really strong Margarita's before the movie and mistake.

0:25:48.840 --> 0:25:51.679
<v Speaker 2>Or genius genius.

0:25:50.920 --> 0:25:53.679
<v Speaker 1>Idea, Lareisa, I'm about to sell you out hard right now,

0:25:53.760 --> 0:25:57.359
<v Speaker 1>because I've never laughed harder. Then we start watching the

0:25:57.440 --> 0:26:01.240
<v Speaker 1>movie and Peter Horton comes on, who plays uh, Christie's father,

0:26:02.440 --> 0:26:05.480
<v Speaker 1>and we realized now as full grown woman women that like.

0:26:05.440 --> 0:26:06.280
<v Speaker 2>This guy's hot.

0:26:06.480 --> 0:26:11.040
<v Speaker 1>Like we were like, what wait a minute. Larissa goes, oh, yeah,

0:26:11.200 --> 0:26:18.760
<v Speaker 1>Christie's dad. Like just she was Lresa, You're not.

0:26:18.880 --> 0:26:26.480
<v Speaker 3>Wrong, You've been seen for sure. And then comes Tom

0:26:26.520 --> 0:26:30.680
<v Speaker 3>and Huk. I mean, you play Becky Thatcher. You are

0:26:31.040 --> 0:26:34.280
<v Speaker 3>clearly only interested in huge projects, did you? Were you

0:26:34.400 --> 0:26:36.480
<v Speaker 3>just Rachel Lee cook Off for only blockbusters?

0:26:36.680 --> 0:26:39.359
<v Speaker 1>At this point, I'm fully auditioned for that, and I

0:26:39.440 --> 0:26:41.960
<v Speaker 1>maintain that I got that movie because I had just

0:26:42.160 --> 0:26:46.080
<v Speaker 1>done other movies. I feel like, I like, if I

0:26:46.200 --> 0:26:49.159
<v Speaker 1>watched my early work, I'm like, oh, it looks like

0:26:49.200 --> 0:26:50.960
<v Speaker 1>you plucked somewhere off the street, and we're just like

0:26:51.000 --> 0:26:53.800
<v Speaker 1>can you speak English? And I was like, I can't see,

0:26:53.840 --> 0:26:56.280
<v Speaker 1>and then like they just threw me out there. I

0:26:56.359 --> 0:26:58.960
<v Speaker 1>barely know what the stakes of any given scene are.

0:26:59.280 --> 0:27:02.400
<v Speaker 1>It's just so I feel like I don't look even

0:27:02.440 --> 0:27:03.800
<v Speaker 1>look like I know what I'm doing.

0:27:03.600 --> 0:27:07.439
<v Speaker 3>Well, But to be fair, how could you You hadn't

0:27:07.880 --> 0:27:10.160
<v Speaker 3>studied the craft, not in a.

0:27:10.200 --> 0:27:12.560
<v Speaker 1>Very real way. I want to what a couple actings

0:27:12.600 --> 0:27:13.400
<v Speaker 1>exactly what I'm saying.

0:27:13.400 --> 0:27:15.439
<v Speaker 3>You're learning it, you're in the process of learning it,

0:27:15.520 --> 0:27:19.560
<v Speaker 3>and yet you were given the opportunities for a reason.

0:27:19.760 --> 0:27:22.760
<v Speaker 3>Don't don't take it away from yourself. You were given

0:27:22.800 --> 0:27:26.840
<v Speaker 3>opportunities because you showed up with the factor they were

0:27:26.880 --> 0:27:29.960
<v Speaker 3>looking for. Factors they were looking for, and they knew

0:27:29.960 --> 0:27:33.399
<v Speaker 3>that you were capable. I mean, these movies are classics

0:27:33.440 --> 0:27:35.160
<v Speaker 3>for a reason, you being one of them.

0:27:35.280 --> 0:27:39.879
<v Speaker 1>I so appreciate that. And yeah, I am so jealous

0:27:39.920 --> 0:27:42.880
<v Speaker 1>of like all the like. Granted you had to learn

0:27:42.880 --> 0:27:43.880
<v Speaker 1>on the job as well.

0:27:44.080 --> 0:27:45.760
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, nothing started off with.

0:27:45.760 --> 0:27:48.080
<v Speaker 1>A bang, and you just like put in so many

0:27:48.119 --> 0:27:52.360
<v Speaker 1>hours and you know, I feel like people who had

0:27:52.400 --> 0:27:54.040
<v Speaker 1>your job, I felt like you guys are like the

0:27:54.080 --> 0:27:54.760
<v Speaker 1>real actors.

0:27:55.440 --> 0:27:58.520
<v Speaker 3>That's so funny, And all we felt was that you

0:27:59.359 --> 0:28:02.240
<v Speaker 3>were the real act Truly, we looked at what we

0:28:02.240 --> 0:28:05.920
<v Speaker 3>were doing as being like just nobody takes us seriously.

0:28:06.800 --> 0:28:09.359
<v Speaker 3>It's so what we're doing is for kids.

0:28:09.960 --> 0:28:11.880
<v Speaker 1>You knew what your next job was and I thought

0:28:11.880 --> 0:28:12.680
<v Speaker 1>that was amazing.

0:28:12.720 --> 0:28:14.920
<v Speaker 2>Well, yes, there was some version of jobs.

0:28:15.040 --> 0:28:17.840
<v Speaker 3>At the very least we knew in twenty two episodes

0:28:18.000 --> 0:28:19.720
<v Speaker 3>this season. We never really knew what was going to

0:28:19.840 --> 0:28:21.720
<v Speaker 3>come next season, but at least we would know whether

0:28:21.760 --> 0:28:23.600
<v Speaker 3>we were picked up for thirteen or twenty two.

0:28:24.119 --> 0:28:25.200
<v Speaker 2>It wasn't you.

0:28:25.119 --> 0:28:28.480
<v Speaker 3>Know, three months at a time and then what comes next,

0:28:28.520 --> 0:28:30.480
<v Speaker 3>which is a real terrifying feeling.

0:28:30.280 --> 0:28:31.040
<v Speaker 2>Even if you're a teen.

0:28:31.560 --> 0:28:34.399
<v Speaker 3>Exactly, Yeah, it is as good as what's on the

0:28:34.440 --> 0:28:35.639
<v Speaker 3>dock at next Yes.

0:28:35.480 --> 0:28:38.920
<v Speaker 1>You guys probably were thinking like are we renewed all

0:28:38.960 --> 0:28:40.880
<v Speaker 1>of the time, but to the rest of us, it

0:28:40.920 --> 0:28:42.920
<v Speaker 1>was just like, oh, my god, show's going to be

0:28:43.000 --> 0:28:47.240
<v Speaker 1>on forever and ever. And I remember saying to Ryde

0:28:47.240 --> 0:28:50.640
<v Speaker 1>our God, such like, oh, you know, like I just

0:28:50.640 --> 0:28:55.000
<v Speaker 1>want to do movies because I couldn't believe the page

0:28:55.000 --> 0:28:58.040
<v Speaker 1>count and how fast everything was happening. I was like,

0:28:58.120 --> 0:29:01.880
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, Oh they're doing this. I'm not capable really,

0:29:01.920 --> 0:29:03.720
<v Speaker 1>And yeah, so you off.

0:29:03.560 --> 0:29:05.480
<v Speaker 3>As being like I'm going to pass this off as

0:29:05.520 --> 0:29:06.920
<v Speaker 3>like I don't want to do TV.

0:29:07.680 --> 0:29:12.400
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, I think so. I definitely was intimidated by

0:29:12.920 --> 0:29:15.040
<v Speaker 1>what I knew you guys were turning in all the

0:29:15.080 --> 0:29:15.959
<v Speaker 1>time and fast.

0:29:16.120 --> 0:29:17.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it is. It is fast.

0:29:17.600 --> 0:29:19.160
<v Speaker 3>I mean, and now I hear like about you know

0:29:19.200 --> 0:29:21.120
<v Speaker 3>what it's like to be on a soap opera? O?

0:29:21.280 --> 0:29:24.000
<v Speaker 2>What now? What you do with Hallmark movies?

0:29:24.280 --> 0:29:28.800
<v Speaker 1>That is? It is order line, irresponsibly fast. We always

0:29:28.800 --> 0:29:29.920
<v Speaker 1>make it happen. I know.

0:29:30.080 --> 0:29:33.400
<v Speaker 2>But like, have you got you've done I've never done one. No,

0:29:33.640 --> 0:29:38.480
<v Speaker 2>I've never done one. But but you guys do.

0:29:38.960 --> 0:29:39.400
<v Speaker 1>I don't even know.

0:29:39.480 --> 0:29:41.400
<v Speaker 2>If it's like fourteen.

0:29:40.840 --> 0:29:45.200
<v Speaker 3>Days it is we get fifteen, get fifteen Okay, Okay,

0:29:45.200 --> 0:29:46.360
<v Speaker 3>great that question.

0:29:46.960 --> 0:29:47.800
<v Speaker 2>It's a huge difference.

0:29:47.880 --> 0:29:50.000
<v Speaker 1>It's still crazy fast. They just know how to make

0:29:50.000 --> 0:29:52.200
<v Speaker 1>it happen. We have a lot of multipurpose locations.

0:29:52.280 --> 0:29:52.600
<v Speaker 2>Okay.

0:29:52.760 --> 0:29:55.440
<v Speaker 1>And we could do a whole separate thing about this

0:29:56.200 --> 0:29:58.040
<v Speaker 1>and maybe we'll get to make one together.

0:29:58.280 --> 0:30:01.040
<v Speaker 3>Oh would that be so fun? I know I would.

0:30:01.200 --> 0:30:02.320
<v Speaker 3>I would truly love that.

0:30:15.440 --> 0:30:15.760
<v Speaker 2>Okay.

0:30:15.760 --> 0:30:18.240
<v Speaker 3>So back to Tom and Hawk. I mean, obviously this

0:30:18.360 --> 0:30:21.480
<v Speaker 3>is based on Mark Twain. It stars the biggest young

0:30:21.520 --> 0:30:24.720
<v Speaker 3>stars of the time, Jonathan Taylor Thomas and one of

0:30:24.760 --> 0:30:29.520
<v Speaker 3>my other favorites, brad renfro. Now, a few months earlier,

0:30:29.760 --> 0:30:34.640
<v Speaker 3>you were in Minnesota basically just most likely watching on

0:30:34.840 --> 0:30:37.640
<v Speaker 3>Home Improvement and now you're co starring with him.

0:30:37.680 --> 0:30:39.040
<v Speaker 2>What was that like for you?

0:30:39.440 --> 0:30:43.200
<v Speaker 1>I'm so relieved that I hadn't seen home Okay, yeah,

0:30:43.240 --> 0:30:45.840
<v Speaker 1>so my parents bless him. Love your mom and dad.

0:30:45.840 --> 0:30:46.680
<v Speaker 1>You're snobs.

0:30:46.960 --> 0:30:49.920
<v Speaker 2>They just they didn't want to watch the grunting Guy. Yeah,

0:30:50.640 --> 0:30:52.280
<v Speaker 2>it's a delightful show. Sure is.

0:30:52.440 --> 0:30:55.840
<v Speaker 1>I know, I know now, So luckily I didn't have

0:30:55.960 --> 0:31:01.000
<v Speaker 1>the mania. And when you're you know, I was fifteen,

0:31:01.080 --> 0:31:02.640
<v Speaker 1>and I think he was like twelve and a half.

0:31:02.800 --> 0:31:06.200
<v Speaker 1>Oh my gosh, which seems weird when you're fifteen.

0:31:06.440 --> 0:31:08.440
<v Speaker 3>Totally, and I was going to say, how long did

0:31:08.440 --> 0:31:09.959
<v Speaker 3>it take for you to develop a crush on him?

0:31:10.000 --> 0:31:13.040
<v Speaker 3>But now that I hear that, you're like, absolutely not.

0:31:13.200 --> 0:31:15.920
<v Speaker 3>This is a child and I am a woman.

0:31:16.120 --> 0:31:18.400
<v Speaker 2>Because I remember I was. I was in my mind.

0:31:18.440 --> 0:31:21.320
<v Speaker 3>I was a full blown woman at fifteen, completely, and

0:31:21.360 --> 0:31:23.240
<v Speaker 3>someone twelve was like, yeah.

0:31:23.400 --> 0:31:25.920
<v Speaker 1>So you might have been thirteen, and Brad was like twelve,

0:31:26.000 --> 0:31:28.240
<v Speaker 1>but Brad somehow had the soul.

0:31:28.720 --> 0:31:31.040
<v Speaker 2>I get into it about the sixty to seventy year

0:31:31.040 --> 0:31:31.360
<v Speaker 2>old man.

0:31:31.400 --> 0:31:35.440
<v Speaker 1>You're a touring jazz musicians exactly like I can't even yeah,

0:31:35.800 --> 0:31:40.480
<v Speaker 1>just wild at the age of the soul on that human. Yes,

0:31:40.520 --> 0:31:42.280
<v Speaker 1>in some ways when people are like, can you believe it?

0:31:42.360 --> 0:31:43.680
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, in some ways.

0:31:43.440 --> 0:31:46.320
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, in some ways because he did live a

0:31:46.320 --> 0:31:49.640
<v Speaker 3>lot longer in those years than the rest of us.

0:31:50.040 --> 0:31:53.719
<v Speaker 2>Know who. What was that movie like for you in

0:31:53.760 --> 0:31:54.440
<v Speaker 2>your downtime?

0:31:54.520 --> 0:31:56.120
<v Speaker 3>Did you hang out with that? I mean they were

0:31:56.160 --> 0:31:58.280
<v Speaker 3>younger than you, But did you What did you do?

0:31:58.680 --> 0:32:02.120
<v Speaker 1>I would have welcomed a friend hip with Jonathan. He

0:32:02.320 --> 0:32:06.480
<v Speaker 1>was very funny in a kind of under way and

0:32:06.840 --> 0:32:10.920
<v Speaker 1>wildly smart. And you remember the connection between him and

0:32:11.160 --> 0:32:14.040
<v Speaker 1>David and Wesley your centres from back in the day.

0:32:14.160 --> 0:32:19.360
<v Speaker 1>We're all so connected, you guys, gets weird. Weird. So yes,

0:32:19.520 --> 0:32:22.840
<v Speaker 1>that David being my set teacher on that movie is

0:32:22.880 --> 0:32:26.520
<v Speaker 1>what introduced me to writer, introduced me to you. So

0:32:26.680 --> 0:32:28.960
<v Speaker 1>I was not super tight with Jonathan, but we weren't

0:32:29.000 --> 0:32:31.240
<v Speaker 1>as close. His mom was there and they were just

0:32:31.280 --> 0:32:33.000
<v Speaker 1>sort of like doing family time when it wasn't work

0:32:33.040 --> 0:32:37.320
<v Speaker 1>and it was cool. So Brad and I Brad was unsupervised,

0:32:37.320 --> 0:32:41.120
<v Speaker 1>to put it mildly, He was there with his grandmother, Joanne,

0:32:41.160 --> 0:32:45.400
<v Speaker 1>who was who was just kindstantly like broad broad Where

0:32:46.040 --> 0:32:49.680
<v Speaker 1>didn't I didn't know where you were? Brad and he'd

0:32:49.680 --> 0:32:54.440
<v Speaker 1>be like wrong, you know, you know what, Like he

0:32:54.560 --> 0:32:57.480
<v Speaker 1>just did his own thing what he wanted. He was

0:32:58.080 --> 0:33:01.520
<v Speaker 1>still get my head around to this day. And we

0:33:01.560 --> 0:33:03.520
<v Speaker 1>would go and hang out at like the waffle house

0:33:03.600 --> 0:33:09.280
<v Speaker 1>and house exactly to kick around Huntsville, Alabama, which is

0:33:09.960 --> 0:33:11.520
<v Speaker 1>it's crazy to me.

0:33:11.680 --> 0:33:14.479
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so an experience, it really was.

0:33:14.560 --> 0:33:17.400
<v Speaker 1>It was a really awesome experience. I hadn't been back

0:33:17.400 --> 0:33:20.680
<v Speaker 1>there since until about two years ago, and yeah, I

0:33:20.680 --> 0:33:22.760
<v Speaker 1>brought back a lot of memories. But yeah, I still

0:33:22.760 --> 0:33:27.120
<v Speaker 1>don't understand how I got that opportunity, like from going

0:33:27.160 --> 0:33:30.560
<v Speaker 1>from being able to be Maryann Spear who was you

0:33:30.600 --> 0:33:32.480
<v Speaker 1>know that was my favorite book series when I was

0:33:32.480 --> 0:33:36.120
<v Speaker 1>a kid, to Becky Thatcher who you know I had

0:33:36.120 --> 0:33:37.680
<v Speaker 1>to read tons were in school. A lot of us

0:33:37.680 --> 0:33:39.560
<v Speaker 1>did to be like, wait a minute, how is this?

0:33:40.240 --> 0:33:42.760
<v Speaker 2>How how have I gotten this lucky?

0:33:43.280 --> 0:33:47.240
<v Speaker 3>Especially when you have appreciated the work in your personal

0:33:47.280 --> 0:33:51.320
<v Speaker 3>life to then be like and now that's I decide

0:33:51.360 --> 0:33:52.080
<v Speaker 3>I want to be an actor.

0:33:52.160 --> 0:33:54.520
<v Speaker 2>These are the roles I get to play, like, that's it.

0:33:54.920 --> 0:33:55.880
<v Speaker 2>It was, that's a great feeling.

0:33:56.000 --> 0:33:58.800
<v Speaker 1>Well, it was totally amazing, and I want to say

0:33:58.840 --> 0:34:01.720
<v Speaker 1>that I was just utter in love with like the

0:34:01.800 --> 0:34:05.880
<v Speaker 1>craft and acting, and I was because I also just

0:34:05.960 --> 0:34:07.920
<v Speaker 1>wanted to find out if I was good at anything.

0:34:08.280 --> 0:34:10.040
<v Speaker 1>I was one of those kids who was like not

0:34:10.120 --> 0:34:12.320
<v Speaker 1>at the top of my class in school, did fine,

0:34:12.440 --> 0:34:15.200
<v Speaker 1>but like not sporty, don't have me catch a ball,

0:34:15.280 --> 0:34:18.439
<v Speaker 1>like like not. So when it was just like, oh,

0:34:18.520 --> 0:34:21.160
<v Speaker 1>you can do this, it's like how we've all wondered

0:34:21.160 --> 0:34:23.120
<v Speaker 1>if we're secretly good at something that could get us

0:34:23.160 --> 0:34:26.000
<v Speaker 1>into the Olympics, or like, am I good at singing?

0:34:26.040 --> 0:34:27.839
<v Speaker 1>Maybe I'll just sing a little bit when you're young

0:34:27.880 --> 0:34:30.320
<v Speaker 1>and someone will be like, you're amazing at this and

0:34:30.600 --> 0:34:34.160
<v Speaker 1>nobody does and you know, so when it was like

0:34:34.200 --> 0:34:37.719
<v Speaker 1>I felt like I found a superpower, it was kind

0:34:37.760 --> 0:34:41.040
<v Speaker 1>of incredible. But I was also not super popular. I

0:34:41.080 --> 0:34:44.759
<v Speaker 1>was like a little bit shy and awkward to all

0:34:44.920 --> 0:34:48.080
<v Speaker 1>we would get there, So sometimes I wonder if I

0:34:48.120 --> 0:34:51.640
<v Speaker 1>was just trying to jump being you know, I was like,

0:34:51.840 --> 0:34:53.640
<v Speaker 1>I don't think I'm gonna be school popular. What if

0:34:53.680 --> 0:34:55.720
<v Speaker 1>I can just be like life popular.

0:34:55.400 --> 0:34:55.919
<v Speaker 2>Right right?

0:34:56.000 --> 0:34:59.400
<v Speaker 3>What if I could be recognizable and that will feel

0:34:59.440 --> 0:35:03.720
<v Speaker 3>like popularity that's not I mean, honestly really smart.

0:35:03.920 --> 0:35:08.879
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. Ps it didn't work okay, but in

0:35:09.120 --> 0:35:11.880
<v Speaker 1>retrospect it does feel like I got what I was

0:35:11.920 --> 0:35:13.879
<v Speaker 1>trying for. Yeah, which just kind of weird.

0:35:13.920 --> 0:35:16.120
<v Speaker 2>When does the frying pan commercial happen?

0:35:17.640 --> 0:35:17.719
<v Speaker 3>That?

0:35:18.320 --> 0:35:25.080
<v Speaker 1>Uh my goodness, that was I think early nineteen ninety nine.

0:35:25.360 --> 0:35:27.560
<v Speaker 3>Okay, So for those of my listeners who are a

0:35:27.600 --> 0:35:31.840
<v Speaker 3>little too young, Rachel starred in an iconic PSA, taking

0:35:32.160 --> 0:35:35.359
<v Speaker 3>the classic this is Your Brain on drug commercials from

0:35:35.440 --> 0:35:37.520
<v Speaker 3>the eighties and remixing.

0:35:36.960 --> 0:35:37.640
<v Speaker 2>It a bit.

0:35:38.000 --> 0:35:41.719
<v Speaker 3>Indeed, rather than the monotone voice used in the original,

0:35:41.800 --> 0:35:46.120
<v Speaker 3>you not only showed us the egg, you violently smashed

0:35:46.320 --> 0:35:50.680
<v Speaker 3>the frying pan all over the kitchen, creating an aggressive destruction,

0:35:50.840 --> 0:35:54.640
<v Speaker 3>and talking about how Heroin in particular would taking through

0:35:54.800 --> 0:35:59.360
<v Speaker 3>in our families and our friends forever. This ad created

0:35:59.400 --> 0:36:03.359
<v Speaker 3>a frenzy around you and your hair also might be

0:36:03.640 --> 0:36:08.719
<v Speaker 3>the cutest cut ever depicted on the Did Everything in

0:36:08.760 --> 0:36:09.640
<v Speaker 3>Your Life change?

0:36:09.840 --> 0:36:10.359
<v Speaker 2>After that?

0:36:11.160 --> 0:36:13.279
<v Speaker 1>I was trying to have Netlie and Brulia's hair, so

0:36:13.480 --> 0:36:17.600
<v Speaker 1>that's probably where that came from. God, I don't think

0:36:17.640 --> 0:36:21.120
<v Speaker 1>I ever got there, but I tried, so that's where

0:36:21.200 --> 0:36:24.840
<v Speaker 1>that was. I feel like that PSA did more for

0:36:24.920 --> 0:36:27.880
<v Speaker 1>me than all the movies that I had. It just

0:36:28.320 --> 0:36:30.880
<v Speaker 1>you know, shoots someone in grainy black and white and

0:36:30.960 --> 0:36:33.440
<v Speaker 1>let them break some shit and you're off to the races.

0:36:33.719 --> 0:36:36.720
<v Speaker 1>So you know, it gave me I think a little

0:36:36.719 --> 0:36:39.040
<v Speaker 1>bit of you know, oh hey, she can do this

0:36:39.080 --> 0:36:43.400
<v Speaker 1>more dramatic ish stuff, and then I got it was

0:36:43.560 --> 0:36:46.600
<v Speaker 1>just black and white. You know, I don't know which

0:36:47.360 --> 0:36:50.200
<v Speaker 1>I was. I try have my best, but yeah, for

0:36:50.280 --> 0:36:53.440
<v Speaker 1>something that paid zero dollars. You know, that was just

0:36:53.520 --> 0:36:57.080
<v Speaker 1>an initiative by Partnership for Drug Free America and the

0:36:57.120 --> 0:36:59.640
<v Speaker 1>whole war on drugs thing did not work. It didn't

0:36:59.640 --> 0:37:03.759
<v Speaker 1>pan out, didn't not not great, but specifically heroin, like

0:37:03.800 --> 0:37:06.080
<v Speaker 1>you said, not a controversial.

0:37:05.440 --> 0:37:08.040
<v Speaker 2>Take correct Heroin's Heroin's not good?

0:37:08.040 --> 0:37:08.719
<v Speaker 1>I said what I said?

0:37:08.760 --> 0:37:11.040
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, did you want to take me to task?

0:37:11.320 --> 0:37:12.279
<v Speaker 2>I'm just not a fan.

0:37:13.320 --> 0:37:16.799
<v Speaker 3>Uh? Did you then after doing that, if you did

0:37:16.920 --> 0:37:20.440
<v Speaker 3>ever try a drug, did you have extra guilt?

0:37:21.000 --> 0:37:21.440
<v Speaker 2>Because I.

0:37:23.280 --> 0:37:28.120
<v Speaker 1>Did? But okay weed? Who hasn't it's California? Yeah, and

0:37:28.600 --> 0:37:31.000
<v Speaker 1>found out that it is not for me? No? No,

0:37:31.280 --> 0:37:31.640
<v Speaker 1>why no?

0:37:32.000 --> 0:37:34.200
<v Speaker 2>I was like, but I want to know why for you?

0:37:34.960 --> 0:37:38.520
<v Speaker 1>Bad news. My feet are not attached to my legs anymore,

0:37:39.040 --> 0:37:41.520
<v Speaker 1>so I don't know how I'm to get home because

0:37:41.560 --> 0:37:46.920
<v Speaker 1>I think things. Yeah, yeah, so I don't know what

0:37:46.920 --> 0:37:50.720
<v Speaker 1>we're gonna do about it, but anywhere, Yeah, it's.

0:37:50.600 --> 0:37:55.000
<v Speaker 3>Just apparently so okay, I mean they're still, they're there,

0:37:55.040 --> 0:37:56.160
<v Speaker 3>They're there, they are there.

0:37:56.280 --> 0:37:58.319
<v Speaker 1>I mean like, okay, knock on what. No. I was

0:37:58.440 --> 0:38:00.560
<v Speaker 1>just like, this is a I don't know if this

0:38:00.680 --> 0:38:01.000
<v Speaker 1>is for me.

0:38:01.880 --> 0:38:07.560
<v Speaker 3>Yeahnoxious, I'm a chatty kathy, like you know, obviously there's

0:38:07.680 --> 0:38:10.680
<v Speaker 3>different types. You can have this chill type. I was

0:38:10.719 --> 0:38:12.520
<v Speaker 3>not having to once.

0:38:12.520 --> 0:38:16.960
<v Speaker 1>At yeah, uh Seth green Grand's house and I was

0:38:17.000 --> 0:38:19.640
<v Speaker 1>watching people do a puzzle and I fell asleep and

0:38:19.680 --> 0:38:22.040
<v Speaker 1>there was no judgment because they're awesome.

0:38:22.320 --> 0:38:24.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we gave it to you. We can't judge.

0:38:24.880 --> 0:38:26.800
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it was not for me. But did I feel

0:38:26.800 --> 0:38:29.120
<v Speaker 1>bad because I was that this is your brand on drugs? Girl?

0:38:29.480 --> 0:38:31.360
<v Speaker 1>Sorry but no, no, no, I didn't know.

0:38:31.400 --> 0:38:32.120
<v Speaker 2>You did not you did not.

0:38:32.160 --> 0:38:35.439
<v Speaker 3>Okay, I'm just just curious that ever popped your head

0:38:36.000 --> 0:38:36.440
<v Speaker 3>in takes?

0:38:36.440 --> 0:38:37.399
<v Speaker 2>Did you shoot of that?

0:38:37.640 --> 0:38:38.319
<v Speaker 1>Was it? Like?

0:38:38.480 --> 0:38:40.000
<v Speaker 3>I feel like you must have just gone wild for

0:38:40.040 --> 0:38:42.040
<v Speaker 3>like three hours. But I don't know, not a.

0:38:41.920 --> 0:38:44.799
<v Speaker 1>Ton you have to be like wearing safety glasses at all.

0:38:45.000 --> 0:38:47.640
<v Speaker 1>They're kinds of like not that cool stuff for you're

0:38:47.680 --> 0:38:51.040
<v Speaker 1>trying to act all bad ass, so it's hard to control.

0:38:51.160 --> 0:38:51.920
<v Speaker 2>Was it cast iron?

0:38:52.000 --> 0:38:52.640
<v Speaker 1>It really was?

0:38:52.680 --> 0:38:54.040
<v Speaker 2>I mean, why did that need to be cast iron?

0:38:54.840 --> 0:38:57.080
<v Speaker 3>They could have given you a non sticks is why

0:38:57.120 --> 0:38:59.920
<v Speaker 3>your director? You've the girl a colflon?

0:39:00.080 --> 0:39:02.120
<v Speaker 2>Please? Okay?

0:39:02.640 --> 0:39:05.319
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, not a ton. That was another like room

0:39:05.360 --> 0:39:07.880
<v Speaker 1>full of models situation. Walked in there and I's just like,

0:39:08.120 --> 0:39:11.040
<v Speaker 1>pardon because it was ck one era, right, I's just

0:39:11.040 --> 0:39:12.200
<v Speaker 1>like I meant, I think I'm in.

0:39:12.120 --> 0:39:14.399
<v Speaker 2>The should I do you want me to go?

0:39:14.600 --> 0:39:16.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah? But I remember that audition. I remember I like

0:39:17.040 --> 0:39:19.120
<v Speaker 1>booted over the card table at the end. You're just

0:39:19.120 --> 0:39:21.400
<v Speaker 1>supposed to like hit the plastic plates and the picture

0:39:21.520 --> 0:39:24.520
<v Speaker 1>and things like that, and I like got into it.

0:39:24.840 --> 0:39:27.839
<v Speaker 3>You took it an extra. That's that's what made you

0:39:27.920 --> 0:39:28.359
<v Speaker 3>stand out.

0:39:28.400 --> 0:39:30.359
<v Speaker 2>Those are the things. Those are the things.

0:39:30.120 --> 0:39:32.160
<v Speaker 3>That people we try, right, Yeah, that's those are the

0:39:32.200 --> 0:39:34.200
<v Speaker 3>things that people go, oh and then she did something

0:39:34.239 --> 0:39:35.319
<v Speaker 3>no one else thought to do.

0:39:35.800 --> 0:39:36.720
<v Speaker 2>And now guess what.

0:39:36.760 --> 0:39:38.640
<v Speaker 3>You could be. You don't have to be first or last.

0:39:38.640 --> 0:39:40.400
<v Speaker 3>You're still going to be silient right in the middle.

0:39:40.600 --> 0:39:41.960
<v Speaker 3>Kicked over the cart, thank you?

0:39:42.120 --> 0:39:42.319
<v Speaker 2>Yep?

0:39:42.360 --> 0:39:44.239
<v Speaker 1>What do you remember about your Boyma's world?

0:39:44.360 --> 0:39:47.680
<v Speaker 2>Edition, the first one where I didn't even get a callback.

0:39:48.480 --> 0:39:48.960
<v Speaker 1>Didn't know.

0:39:49.200 --> 0:39:50.640
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I didn't even get I didn't get.

0:39:50.480 --> 0:39:52.520
<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry to everyone who's heard this before. I needed

0:39:52.520 --> 0:39:52.920
<v Speaker 1>to hear it.

0:39:53.040 --> 0:39:55.239
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, they I didn't have Boyme's world. They booked, they

0:39:55.239 --> 0:39:59.080
<v Speaker 3>booked someone else what. But then I had another audition

0:39:59.239 --> 0:40:01.920
<v Speaker 3>to play a part we have jokingly referred to as

0:40:01.920 --> 0:40:05.040
<v Speaker 3>fish Girl because she pulled a fish skeleton out of

0:40:05.080 --> 0:40:08.279
<v Speaker 3>a jar of something in a class. And I got

0:40:08.280 --> 0:40:10.200
<v Speaker 3>that role. It only had two lines. And then I

0:40:10.239 --> 0:40:13.440
<v Speaker 3>saw the girl they cast as to Panga, and we

0:40:13.440 --> 0:40:15.799
<v Speaker 3>were in the same episode she did the first day,

0:40:15.880 --> 0:40:17.960
<v Speaker 3>and at the end of the day they fired her.

0:40:19.400 --> 0:40:20.960
<v Speaker 3>And then they were like, well, we could do a

0:40:21.000 --> 0:40:24.480
<v Speaker 3>full recasting, or we could bring in these two girls

0:40:24.520 --> 0:40:27.360
<v Speaker 3>that are playing the fish girls, me and Marla Sockoloff,

0:40:29.160 --> 0:40:32.640
<v Speaker 3>and we both auditioned and then they called us later

0:40:32.680 --> 0:40:34.719
<v Speaker 3>that night and said Danielle got the roll show up

0:40:34.719 --> 0:40:35.759
<v Speaker 3>on Monday as Topanga.

0:40:36.040 --> 0:40:36.320
<v Speaker 1>Damn.

0:40:36.320 --> 0:40:38.800
<v Speaker 2>The rest is history.

0:40:39.080 --> 0:40:41.319
<v Speaker 1>That girl's mom had to be like, they replaced you

0:40:41.400 --> 0:40:44.719
<v Speaker 1>with fish Girl. Yeah, damn it.

0:40:45.360 --> 0:40:48.080
<v Speaker 2>Wow, crazy, crazy, crazy story.

0:40:48.160 --> 0:40:52.600
<v Speaker 1>I hope that she's like out carrying major diseases right now.

0:40:52.600 --> 0:40:56.080
<v Speaker 1>Are not wasting time in our nonsense industry. She is

0:40:56.160 --> 0:40:58.240
<v Speaker 1>wonderful and feeds my family.

0:40:58.000 --> 0:41:01.239
<v Speaker 3>Correct and we love it. She is actually still in

0:41:01.239 --> 0:41:04.960
<v Speaker 3>the industry. She is a contortionist and she is part

0:41:05.000 --> 0:41:09.160
<v Speaker 3>of a very famous, a very famous family. They do

0:41:09.560 --> 0:41:12.880
<v Speaker 3>like you know, she's on billboards for when the circus

0:41:12.880 --> 0:41:16.680
<v Speaker 3>comes to town and yeah she she her name's Bonnie Morgan.

0:41:16.719 --> 0:41:19.640
<v Speaker 3>We interviewed her on Pod Meets World and it was

0:41:19.800 --> 0:41:22.640
<v Speaker 3>very healing for both of us because you know those

0:41:22.760 --> 0:41:25.560
<v Speaker 3>you never usually talk to the people know you replace,

0:41:26.239 --> 0:41:28.880
<v Speaker 3>and so I got to hear from her perspective what

0:41:28.920 --> 0:41:30.720
<v Speaker 3>that must have been like and got to just flat

0:41:30.719 --> 0:41:33.359
<v Speaker 3>out ask her if every single year for the next

0:41:33.400 --> 0:41:35.760
<v Speaker 3>seven years, when Boy Meets World was popular and Corey

0:41:35.800 --> 0:41:38.040
<v Speaker 3>and Topanga were a thing, if it.

0:41:38.040 --> 0:41:39.920
<v Speaker 2>Was hard for her, And of course it was.

0:41:40.680 --> 0:41:42.640
<v Speaker 3>But you know, those are the kinds of like healing

0:41:42.680 --> 0:41:45.200
<v Speaker 3>conversations we get to have now as it's all.

0:41:45.320 --> 0:41:47.920
<v Speaker 1>So true, that's so beautiful. Yeah it was.

0:41:48.040 --> 0:41:48.879
<v Speaker 2>It was really nice.

0:41:49.000 --> 0:41:51.239
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and the things that wouldn't be the way that

0:41:51.280 --> 0:41:53.600
<v Speaker 1>they are. You know, who knows who her partner is now,

0:41:53.640 --> 0:41:56.040
<v Speaker 1>you know, if she has kids now, the number of yeah,

0:41:56.080 --> 0:41:57.200
<v Speaker 1>the butterfly effect as it.

0:41:57.200 --> 0:42:10.840
<v Speaker 2>Were absolutely okay.

0:42:11.000 --> 0:42:14.160
<v Speaker 3>So now a little over a year later, She's all

0:42:14.200 --> 0:42:18.000
<v Speaker 3>that comes out, you play Lady Bogs and you end

0:42:18.080 --> 0:42:20.880
<v Speaker 3>up in a classic still considered a tent pole for

0:42:21.000 --> 0:42:24.840
<v Speaker 3>teen rom coms. Did this movie feel special.

0:42:24.520 --> 0:42:25.480
<v Speaker 2>When you were making it?

0:42:27.080 --> 0:42:29.640
<v Speaker 1>I felt really special to have gotten that part. I

0:42:29.680 --> 0:42:31.839
<v Speaker 1>could tell that it was good material. I could just tell.

0:42:32.920 --> 0:42:34.920
<v Speaker 1>Did I think any was going to see it? Now? Really?

0:42:35.000 --> 0:42:39.160
<v Speaker 1>Because I had done smaller movies than I wasn't aware

0:42:39.160 --> 0:42:40.880
<v Speaker 1>of the scale of it until it sort of started

0:42:40.880 --> 0:42:43.759
<v Speaker 1>and it felt bigger. So there's more trucks here. That

0:42:43.840 --> 0:42:44.880
<v Speaker 1>seems like it's different.

0:42:45.600 --> 0:42:47.440
<v Speaker 2>But the budget on this has gone up.

0:42:47.560 --> 0:42:49.759
<v Speaker 1>But you don't tak these things into account. Really when

0:42:49.760 --> 0:42:52.399
<v Speaker 1>you're a kid, You're like, the immediate crew on set

0:42:52.480 --> 0:42:54.720
<v Speaker 1>was about the same number as any given tiny movie

0:42:54.760 --> 0:42:57.200
<v Speaker 1>I had done. Yea, I did a movie in Montana

0:42:57.280 --> 0:42:59.560
<v Speaker 1>that was probably a quarter of a million dollar budget,

0:43:00.120 --> 0:43:03.719
<v Speaker 1>and you know, in some ways it didn't feel that

0:43:03.880 --> 0:43:08.360
<v Speaker 1>different to me. So was the craft service different in retrospect?

0:43:08.480 --> 0:43:08.800
<v Speaker 2>Probably?

0:43:08.840 --> 0:43:11.560
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Okay, you just didn't necessarily pay attention to that exactly.

0:43:11.680 --> 0:43:14.239
<v Speaker 3>That's always how you can tell if there are too

0:43:14.280 --> 0:43:17.000
<v Speaker 3>many bags of cheese it's at craft service and not

0:43:17.080 --> 0:43:20.400
<v Speaker 3>a whole lot of I can usually tell this budget's

0:43:20.440 --> 0:43:24.560
<v Speaker 3>not great, but if there's fresh food, we were talking

0:43:24.600 --> 0:43:26.160
<v Speaker 3>real money here, you know your stuff.

0:43:26.239 --> 0:43:28.720
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you know, been around, you've seen things.

0:43:29.200 --> 0:43:31.799
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, I knew that was good. But did I

0:43:31.880 --> 0:43:34.720
<v Speaker 1>know that people were going to see it? Not necessarily.

0:43:34.880 --> 0:43:39.560
<v Speaker 1>I knew that I liked team, you know, like Led movies,

0:43:39.560 --> 0:43:42.680
<v Speaker 1>like John Hughes movies were like My and I'll be

0:43:42.800 --> 0:43:46.640
<v Speaker 1>All when I was young, like Molly Ringwald, and so

0:43:47.640 --> 0:43:49.680
<v Speaker 1>I knew that it was something that I kind of

0:43:49.760 --> 0:43:53.080
<v Speaker 1>would have liked. And I was very similar to character

0:43:53.560 --> 0:43:55.920
<v Speaker 1>at that time in my life, which I know just

0:43:55.960 --> 0:43:58.640
<v Speaker 1>sort of like helped. I think I was really busy

0:43:58.680 --> 0:44:01.520
<v Speaker 1>thinking I was, you know, smarter than I was, and

0:44:01.800 --> 0:44:04.719
<v Speaker 1>acting like it, and pretending to have read and liked

0:44:04.760 --> 0:44:07.479
<v Speaker 1>books that I didn't. Just teenage nuns.

0:44:07.520 --> 0:44:11.000
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, it's the description of the teenager for sure, exactly.

0:44:11.200 --> 0:44:14.120
<v Speaker 1>And so I think that where that movie played it

0:44:14.200 --> 0:44:18.520
<v Speaker 1>incredibly smart. Is that the wave of teen movies like

0:44:18.600 --> 0:44:21.640
<v Speaker 1>Varsity Blues and this, and that they were coming, but

0:44:22.000 --> 0:44:25.800
<v Speaker 1>we were just first. Yeah, so that was just smart.

0:44:25.800 --> 0:44:28.240
<v Speaker 1>I remember the hearing that they were really rushing post

0:44:28.360 --> 0:44:30.200
<v Speaker 1>to just like get it get it out, because yeah

0:44:30.280 --> 0:44:31.680
<v Speaker 1>near Max New and like.

0:44:31.920 --> 0:44:34.319
<v Speaker 3>Babysitters Club or even Tom and Hawk, you are once

0:44:34.360 --> 0:44:37.560
<v Speaker 3>again you were surrounded by superstars in your age bracket.

0:44:37.600 --> 0:44:41.960
<v Speaker 3>Listen to this Murderer's Row Freddie Prince Junior, Matthew Lillard,

0:44:42.080 --> 0:44:46.640
<v Speaker 3>Paul Walker, Anna Paquin, Kieran Colkin, Gabrielle Union, Duel Hill,

0:44:46.800 --> 0:44:51.720
<v Speaker 3>tam Ramello, Clea Duval, Alexis Arkhad and then also Usher

0:44:51.840 --> 0:44:52.720
<v Speaker 3>and Lil Kim.

0:44:53.560 --> 0:44:55.360
<v Speaker 1>It makes no sense.

0:44:55.400 --> 0:44:59.240
<v Speaker 2>This had to be fun though, so much fun. Yeah, okay,

0:44:59.400 --> 0:45:02.440
<v Speaker 2>I I've really why.

0:45:02.239 --> 0:45:04.120
<v Speaker 1>Is this now going to seem like a SOB story

0:45:04.160 --> 0:45:07.320
<v Speaker 1>about me being like, but I didn't have any friends,

0:45:08.760 --> 0:45:11.319
<v Speaker 1>but you didn't, so it was like a playful no.

0:45:11.600 --> 0:45:13.719
<v Speaker 1>Well okay, Well while I was making She's all that,

0:45:13.800 --> 0:45:17.120
<v Speaker 1>I was busy dating someone who was in retrospect too

0:45:17.160 --> 0:45:17.640
<v Speaker 1>old for me.

0:45:18.800 --> 0:45:22.439
<v Speaker 2>That's a rite of passage, absolutely sure.

0:45:24.000 --> 0:45:27.000
<v Speaker 1>So that's sort of what I was up to, And

0:45:27.040 --> 0:45:30.080
<v Speaker 1>I didn't feel like I felt like all of the

0:45:30.080 --> 0:45:32.239
<v Speaker 1>rest of the cast somehow knew each other a little

0:45:32.280 --> 0:45:35.080
<v Speaker 1>bit already, Like Freddy and Doulay knew each other, I'm

0:45:35.080 --> 0:45:38.640
<v Speaker 1>pretty sure already. And Tamra just was this like taclout

0:45:38.719 --> 0:45:41.680
<v Speaker 1>ultimate cool girl. And I've since like I literally checked

0:45:41.680 --> 0:45:43.040
<v Speaker 1>her down where I found out we had a mutual

0:45:43.040 --> 0:45:44.960
<v Speaker 1>friend and I was like, I would like to be friends?

0:45:45.000 --> 0:45:46.640
<v Speaker 1>Would you like to be friends? And now we are,

0:45:46.880 --> 0:45:51.520
<v Speaker 1>oh cool. Yeah. But at the time, I remember, you know,

0:45:51.760 --> 0:45:56.279
<v Speaker 1>like having a good rapport with everybody. But because of

0:45:56.320 --> 0:46:00.000
<v Speaker 1>the fact, especially we're not on location, everybody went home.

0:46:00.719 --> 0:46:03.080
<v Speaker 1>They went It was not like, what are you guys

0:46:03.120 --> 0:46:06.120
<v Speaker 1>doing this weekend. So even though I walked away from

0:46:06.160 --> 0:46:09.920
<v Speaker 1>that with a million fund memories and had a great experience,

0:46:10.680 --> 0:46:13.400
<v Speaker 1>I didn't see a lot of everybody. I saw Gabrielle

0:46:13.400 --> 0:46:16.640
<v Speaker 1>somewhat because we had the same management company. Okay, always

0:46:16.640 --> 0:46:18.640
<v Speaker 1>been amazing. Yeah, And I was lucky enough to work

0:46:18.680 --> 0:46:21.520
<v Speaker 1>with Delay again on psych for a while and I

0:46:21.560 --> 0:46:25.120
<v Speaker 1>love him. He's so special. And Freddie and I are

0:46:25.200 --> 0:46:28.800
<v Speaker 1>looking to reunite and got in touch again after Paul passed.

0:46:30.160 --> 0:46:33.160
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, god, we've been alive for a minute.

0:46:33.440 --> 0:46:36.359
<v Speaker 3>I know, when we talk about it all spaced out,

0:46:36.400 --> 0:46:39.720
<v Speaker 3>you're like, yep, there was that era of my life.

0:46:39.760 --> 0:46:41.439
<v Speaker 2>There's this yeah, yeah.

0:46:41.120 --> 0:46:44.319
<v Speaker 1>And thank you for being a documentarian of all of this.

0:46:44.400 --> 0:46:45.800
<v Speaker 1>You're kind of like our class president.

0:46:45.880 --> 0:46:49.280
<v Speaker 3>Thank you, gosh, you know what. I accept that role proudly.

0:46:49.360 --> 0:46:51.200
<v Speaker 2>Thank you. I do appreciate it.

0:46:52.040 --> 0:46:56.719
<v Speaker 3>Looking back at that whirlwind, what memories stick out the

0:46:56.760 --> 0:46:59.920
<v Speaker 3>most from that whole period, that whole she's all that

0:47:00.080 --> 0:47:02.560
<v Speaker 3>period of your life, Like is it when.

0:47:02.400 --> 0:47:05.400
<v Speaker 2>It comes out? Is it a premiere? Is it filming it?

0:47:05.480 --> 0:47:05.600
<v Speaker 1>Like?

0:47:05.719 --> 0:47:08.600
<v Speaker 3>Is there a moment that you're like, that's the most

0:47:08.640 --> 0:47:09.919
<v Speaker 3>salient for me from that time.

0:47:11.080 --> 0:47:13.480
<v Speaker 1>Whenever you look back that far, it's like a couple

0:47:13.800 --> 0:47:17.720
<v Speaker 1>little you know, uh, bashall peaks out of the ocean.

0:47:17.719 --> 0:47:19.640
<v Speaker 1>If I just had to remember a couple I remember

0:47:19.680 --> 0:47:22.600
<v Speaker 1>were shooting the prom scene. I did not know it

0:47:22.680 --> 0:47:25.560
<v Speaker 1>was going to be a very full, choreographed number. No

0:47:25.600 --> 0:47:28.160
<v Speaker 1>one tells you about the production plans when you're eighteen,

0:47:28.200 --> 0:47:32.720
<v Speaker 1>so I was like, what are you We're sure? Yep, okay,

0:47:32.800 --> 0:47:36.560
<v Speaker 1>this is wonderful. I went from like what to this

0:47:36.600 --> 0:47:40.040
<v Speaker 1>is amazing, like very quickly, and then I realized all

0:47:40.040 --> 0:47:42.000
<v Speaker 1>it once that they were going to try to teach

0:47:42.040 --> 0:47:43.719
<v Speaker 1>me a couple of moves and that didn't go good.

0:47:43.800 --> 0:47:46.560
<v Speaker 1>So I made up some nonsense about my character wouldn't

0:47:46.600 --> 0:47:50.200
<v Speaker 1>know the dance and I'm not really in that sequence.

0:47:49.840 --> 0:47:51.560
<v Speaker 2>Oh my gosh, that's great. You were like, you know what,

0:47:51.600 --> 0:47:56.000
<v Speaker 2>this is a character choice for me. Yeah. I love

0:47:56.040 --> 0:47:58.279
<v Speaker 2>that how I cried for you that you were.

0:47:58.239 --> 0:48:01.160
<v Speaker 3>Like, I'm just going to take this an artistic choice.

0:48:01.480 --> 0:48:04.040
<v Speaker 3>They will respect it more than me saying I can't yes,

0:48:04.200 --> 0:48:05.640
<v Speaker 3>and so we're gonna go with that.

0:48:05.680 --> 0:48:07.960
<v Speaker 1>There's three seconds of me like sort of like flailing

0:48:08.120 --> 0:48:11.240
<v Speaker 1>doing what looks like the monkey, and that is it.

0:48:11.239 --> 0:48:14.839
<v Speaker 1>It's pretty embarrassing and is also I've probably never done

0:48:14.880 --> 0:48:16.600
<v Speaker 1>dancing stars because I'm also not as brave as you,

0:48:16.680 --> 0:48:17.280
<v Speaker 1>but you should.

0:48:18.040 --> 0:48:18.880
<v Speaker 2>It's incredible.

0:48:19.040 --> 0:48:21.399
<v Speaker 1>Here's my plan for dancing with the stars. Okay, we'll

0:48:21.400 --> 0:48:23.600
<v Speaker 1>ever be so kind as to invite me to guess.

0:48:23.640 --> 0:48:27.640
<v Speaker 1>I gotta wait till I'm a cool sixty three sixty

0:48:27.640 --> 0:48:31.680
<v Speaker 1>five and people say the phrase she's still got it.

0:48:31.960 --> 0:48:35.239
<v Speaker 1>I like that because right now I feel like that

0:48:35.280 --> 0:48:38.399
<v Speaker 1>would be rude to say, of my right right, that's

0:48:38.440 --> 0:48:39.000
<v Speaker 1>my plan.

0:48:39.840 --> 0:48:41.000
<v Speaker 2>She still got it.

0:48:41.120 --> 0:48:43.960
<v Speaker 3>I will tell you though, that if you if you

0:48:44.040 --> 0:48:48.239
<v Speaker 3>do it at sixty three, having doing it to become

0:48:48.360 --> 0:48:54.360
<v Speaker 3>significantly harder. I already at forty four doing it, was like, wow,

0:48:54.480 --> 0:48:58.840
<v Speaker 3>I can see the difference. Betweet, Yes, now that I

0:48:59.000 --> 0:49:02.600
<v Speaker 3>really now under stand to be fully related to the

0:49:02.600 --> 0:49:05.399
<v Speaker 3>medication that I'm on for cancer. Was not. I don't

0:49:05.400 --> 0:49:08.240
<v Speaker 3>think that would happen to if I were not taking

0:49:08.239 --> 0:49:10.520
<v Speaker 3>that medication. I think there I was that problem was

0:49:10.560 --> 0:49:16.640
<v Speaker 3>exacerbated by that medication. But the difference between the beautiful

0:49:16.960 --> 0:49:20.520
<v Speaker 3>twenty five year old alex Earl and the ease with

0:49:20.560 --> 0:49:24.960
<v Speaker 3>which her body moves compared to the forty four year

0:49:25.000 --> 0:49:28.960
<v Speaker 3>old it only gets harder, you know, it just becomes harder.

0:49:29.360 --> 0:49:31.680
<v Speaker 3>And if you don't have dance experience I do not,

0:49:32.040 --> 0:49:34.879
<v Speaker 3>which I did not either, well then good luck. So

0:49:35.560 --> 0:49:38.960
<v Speaker 3>what I would say is do it in your sixties

0:49:39.000 --> 0:49:42.960
<v Speaker 3>when you've still got it, but start dance. Now, spend

0:49:42.960 --> 0:49:48.400
<v Speaker 3>the next twenty years having dance, having dance experience, and

0:49:48.480 --> 0:49:50.680
<v Speaker 3>then when you come out it's sixty, they're going to

0:49:50.719 --> 0:49:53.200
<v Speaker 3>be like, oh, you will blow everyone away, but you

0:49:53.280 --> 0:49:55.960
<v Speaker 3>have to start now. So I start that rehearsal process.

0:49:55.960 --> 0:49:58.840
<v Speaker 3>Now get twenty years each Ye. I'm not the person,

0:49:58.880 --> 0:50:00.200
<v Speaker 3>but I think we know some people who.

0:50:00.000 --> 0:50:00.360
<v Speaker 2>Can help you.

0:50:00.440 --> 0:50:03.200
<v Speaker 1>Okay, that's very good advice.

0:50:03.560 --> 0:50:07.000
<v Speaker 3>I have been reading some of my real teenage diary

0:50:07.200 --> 0:50:11.080
<v Speaker 3>entries on podmeats World, and some of them are from

0:50:11.120 --> 0:50:15.000
<v Speaker 3>when you were dating Writer MG, and I very clearly

0:50:15.320 --> 0:50:19.239
<v Speaker 3>had a crush on him, but I also liked you

0:50:19.440 --> 0:50:22.960
<v Speaker 3>so much that I couldn't be mean about you. And

0:50:23.080 --> 0:50:26.200
<v Speaker 3>my diary, so I have a lot of entry things

0:50:26.200 --> 0:50:29.880
<v Speaker 3>that are like hung out with Writer and Rachel today

0:50:31.040 --> 0:50:31.680
<v Speaker 3>so cool.

0:50:33.640 --> 0:50:35.960
<v Speaker 2>I'm not sure she really understand him though.

0:50:36.280 --> 0:50:39.160
<v Speaker 3>Or things like seems like Writer and maybe didn't talk

0:50:39.200 --> 0:50:40.239
<v Speaker 3>to Rachel on the phone today.

0:50:40.239 --> 0:50:41.520
<v Speaker 2>I wonder if they're on the rocks.

0:50:41.920 --> 0:50:43.359
<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, do you.

0:50:43.280 --> 0:50:46.880
<v Speaker 3>Remember ever feeling like I was there trying to be

0:50:46.960 --> 0:50:50.280
<v Speaker 3>happy for you, but also possibly seething inside.

0:50:50.600 --> 0:50:52.440
<v Speaker 1>I just felt like you were so busy with your

0:50:52.520 --> 0:50:57.080
<v Speaker 1>grown up job and you're just so like beautiful and effervescent,

0:50:57.120 --> 0:51:01.080
<v Speaker 1>and everybody loved you and like the hair, come on,

0:51:02.080 --> 0:51:07.960
<v Speaker 1>come on, thank you? No, I remember here what like

0:51:08.800 --> 0:51:11.080
<v Speaker 1>you've opened up your diary to me, I will open

0:51:11.160 --> 0:51:12.600
<v Speaker 1>up my memory diary to you.

0:51:12.640 --> 0:51:13.080
<v Speaker 2>Thank you.

0:51:13.440 --> 0:51:15.279
<v Speaker 1>Here's what I can Here's what I can give young

0:51:15.360 --> 0:51:20.800
<v Speaker 1>Danielle Rider and I were First of all, I probably

0:51:20.840 --> 0:51:24.319
<v Speaker 1>did not understand him all of the ways that you did.

0:51:24.400 --> 0:51:28.200
<v Speaker 1>He's the most romantic, like beautiful, like very do you

0:51:28.400 --> 0:51:33.400
<v Speaker 1>yourself so deep like just like I'm struck. I'm like

0:51:33.520 --> 0:51:36.000
<v Speaker 1>the image of like the front of the Titanic, just

0:51:36.040 --> 0:51:39.239
<v Speaker 1>like he's just he's such a beautiful I'm not doing

0:51:39.320 --> 0:51:40.759
<v Speaker 1>good words for this, but you know.

0:51:40.719 --> 0:51:42.160
<v Speaker 2>Exactly what I know what you mean.

0:51:42.280 --> 0:51:45.399
<v Speaker 1>Yes, writer's most poetic soul we've ever met. Yes, And

0:51:45.960 --> 0:51:49.800
<v Speaker 1>I remember this moment he had like come to visit

0:51:49.880 --> 0:51:52.440
<v Speaker 1>me in Italy and there was this like field of

0:51:52.480 --> 0:51:54.799
<v Speaker 1>sunflowers on the way to where we're going, and he

0:51:54.840 --> 0:51:58.480
<v Speaker 1>tells the driver's staff the car and he looks at

0:51:58.480 --> 0:52:02.480
<v Speaker 1>me what's out hand, and I'm like, oh no, oh no,

0:52:02.560 --> 0:52:04.279
<v Speaker 1>what are we doing? We have to run into these

0:52:05.560 --> 0:52:09.840
<v Speaker 1>through these flyers, like really looking for just like a movie.

0:52:10.160 --> 0:52:11.960
<v Speaker 1>And I knew in that moment that I was just like,

0:52:12.120 --> 0:52:16.360
<v Speaker 1>I'm not I'm not the person what he's like ultimately

0:52:16.400 --> 0:52:18.160
<v Speaker 1>gonna need. And I tried and we got a little

0:52:18.160 --> 0:52:20.839
<v Speaker 1>way into that field, but I was just like, I

0:52:20.840 --> 0:52:23.879
<v Speaker 1>don't I don't know about this. But the thing that

0:52:24.040 --> 0:52:27.759
<v Speaker 1>I can definitely give to young Danielle is that even

0:52:27.760 --> 0:52:31.719
<v Speaker 1>though we were each other's first lot of things, I

0:52:31.760 --> 0:52:34.759
<v Speaker 1>remember he he one time made the I feel that

0:52:34.880 --> 0:52:36.759
<v Speaker 1>sharing is lightly personal business, but I feel like he

0:52:36.760 --> 0:52:41.320
<v Speaker 1>would be okay He's very open and warm and accepting

0:52:41.360 --> 0:52:44.719
<v Speaker 1>and loving to his younger self. Uh. I remember one

0:52:44.800 --> 0:52:50.520
<v Speaker 1>time he said to me like, if you weren't with me,

0:52:51.120 --> 0:52:53.560
<v Speaker 1>you know, who would you want to be with? And

0:52:53.640 --> 0:52:57.879
<v Speaker 1>I realized in retrospect that he was probably thinking I'd

0:52:57.920 --> 0:52:59.960
<v Speaker 1>be like, oh, I don't know, James c if you

0:53:00.120 --> 0:53:02.600
<v Speaker 1>was still alive, or something like that. But instead I

0:53:02.719 --> 0:53:08.200
<v Speaker 1>say the name of my ex boyfriend and he takes

0:53:08.239 --> 0:53:10.880
<v Speaker 1>it on the chin, and then I was like, I

0:53:10.960 --> 0:53:14.239
<v Speaker 1>realized that I've probably answered wrong, and then I said, well,

0:53:14.239 --> 0:53:16.800
<v Speaker 1>what about you, and he goes, Danielle.

0:53:18.000 --> 0:53:21.160
<v Speaker 2>What I don't know the presses.

0:53:20.920 --> 0:53:21.960
<v Speaker 1>I think I didn't remember.

0:53:23.680 --> 0:53:27.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So then did you not like me after that?

0:53:28.600 --> 0:53:28.759
<v Speaker 1>No?

0:53:30.719 --> 0:53:33.759
<v Speaker 3>Well not now now, I'm sure, I'm sure it's fine.

0:53:34.520 --> 0:53:35.600
<v Speaker 3>But at the time, were you like.

0:53:35.640 --> 0:53:37.759
<v Speaker 1>I remember directly trying to figure out if I was

0:53:37.760 --> 0:53:41.359
<v Speaker 1>in trouble first, because I was just like real, real,

0:53:42.800 --> 0:53:43.320
<v Speaker 1>which I was not.

0:53:43.560 --> 0:53:47.200
<v Speaker 3>Respect no, no, but yeah, oh that's so funny. I

0:53:47.239 --> 0:53:48.879
<v Speaker 3>don't know that he remembers that, because when I told

0:53:48.920 --> 0:53:49.960
<v Speaker 3>him on Pod Meets the World that I had a

0:53:50.000 --> 0:53:51.879
<v Speaker 3>crush on him, he was like what And he did

0:53:51.960 --> 0:53:54.160
<v Speaker 3>not in any way, shape or to say that he

0:53:54.200 --> 0:53:57.200
<v Speaker 3>had no Maybe I was just the last person whose

0:53:57.280 --> 0:53:57.960
<v Speaker 3>name he had seen.

0:53:58.120 --> 0:54:03.160
<v Speaker 1>And if you think writers ever not thought about something,

0:54:03.680 --> 0:54:04.399
<v Speaker 1>I know that's true.

0:54:04.840 --> 0:54:06.960
<v Speaker 2>Oh I can't wait to talk to him about it.

0:54:06.960 --> 0:54:07.440
<v Speaker 1>It's true.

0:54:07.440 --> 0:54:10.840
<v Speaker 3>This is this is game changing for me as Yeah

0:54:11.200 --> 0:54:14.640
<v Speaker 3>it happened. Did you mostly then date other actors back

0:54:14.640 --> 0:54:16.800
<v Speaker 3>then because it were who else were you meeting?

0:54:17.040 --> 0:54:18.040
<v Speaker 2>Yeah? Yeah, I know.

0:54:18.080 --> 0:54:19.799
<v Speaker 1>We're in the same boat on this. We talked about

0:54:19.800 --> 0:54:21.640
<v Speaker 1>this at dinner Kansas City, what five years ago?

0:54:21.640 --> 0:54:22.520
<v Speaker 2>Now, Yes, we sure did.

0:54:23.600 --> 0:54:27.279
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's hard. You know, you want to think that

0:54:27.280 --> 0:54:29.560
<v Speaker 1>you're gonna out with other people, but especially when you're

0:54:29.600 --> 0:54:32.400
<v Speaker 1>young and you're doing something that feels kind of I

0:54:32.440 --> 0:54:36.759
<v Speaker 1>don't know, like just odd. You don't you don't want

0:54:36.800 --> 0:54:38.000
<v Speaker 1>someone who's going to like other.

0:54:37.920 --> 0:54:39.160
<v Speaker 2>You Yep, a little bit.

0:54:39.280 --> 0:54:43.880
<v Speaker 1>Yep. Not that it's like not that again now that

0:54:43.920 --> 0:54:45.600
<v Speaker 1>you're convinced that you're special, because you're just like, I

0:54:45.600 --> 0:54:47.360
<v Speaker 1>don't have a job next week, Like I'm this is

0:54:47.400 --> 0:54:49.800
<v Speaker 1>all going to fall apart. But at the same time,

0:54:51.160 --> 0:54:53.160
<v Speaker 1>you don't want to feel like you're with someone who

0:54:53.239 --> 0:54:55.120
<v Speaker 1>might be with you for the wrong reasons, and if

0:54:55.120 --> 0:54:58.120
<v Speaker 1>someone's even too just like real life awesome You're like,

0:54:58.160 --> 0:55:00.160
<v Speaker 1>but I'm not real life awesome, so you just up

0:55:00.200 --> 0:55:03.319
<v Speaker 1>with other actors yep, you know. I yeah, I did

0:55:03.360 --> 0:55:05.160
<v Speaker 1>a lot of fishing off the company peer.

0:55:08.680 --> 0:55:11.400
<v Speaker 3>I also remember that you got to live out the

0:55:11.440 --> 0:55:13.759
<v Speaker 3>dream of everyone who was on Boy Meets World and

0:55:13.800 --> 0:55:15.080
<v Speaker 3>you were on Dawson's Creek.

0:55:15.280 --> 0:55:15.440
<v Speaker 1>Yep.

0:55:16.960 --> 0:55:20.520
<v Speaker 3>And with the recent loss of James Vanderbeek and everyone

0:55:20.520 --> 0:55:23.520
<v Speaker 3>has been talking about what an amazing coworker and friend

0:55:23.560 --> 0:55:23.920
<v Speaker 3>he was.

0:55:24.080 --> 0:55:25.759
<v Speaker 2>Do you have good memories from that set?

0:55:26.080 --> 0:55:31.640
<v Speaker 1>I so do, Yeah, I so do. I I get

0:55:31.960 --> 0:55:34.360
<v Speaker 1>so in my own head when I that was my

0:55:34.400 --> 0:55:38.200
<v Speaker 1>first time guest starring and I wanted to guess on

0:55:38.480 --> 0:55:40.840
<v Speaker 1>this world. But if they did not ask me, she

0:55:41.000 --> 0:55:41.600
<v Speaker 1>was crazy.

0:55:41.840 --> 0:55:44.239
<v Speaker 2>I feel like they must have thought that you would

0:55:44.320 --> 0:55:45.200
<v Speaker 2>not have done it.

0:55:45.440 --> 0:55:47.719
<v Speaker 1>Probably if I had said that stuff to writer, right,

0:55:47.760 --> 0:55:49.560
<v Speaker 1>the writer was like he was probably like, no.

0:55:50.120 --> 0:55:57.439
<v Speaker 3>She would never or maybe yes, right, okay, But anyway, Yeah,

0:55:57.560 --> 0:56:00.600
<v Speaker 3>Dawson's they were such a tight knit g and it's

0:56:00.760 --> 0:56:01.479
<v Speaker 3>a little bit scary.

0:56:01.520 --> 0:56:03.359
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if you've done much guesting, but when

0:56:03.400 --> 0:56:05.359
<v Speaker 1>you go in and everybody knows you to get really

0:56:05.360 --> 0:56:09.120
<v Speaker 1>well and it's just established, like how you you know,

0:56:09.239 --> 0:56:11.080
<v Speaker 1>do the dance and sing the song, and they're also

0:56:11.200 --> 0:56:13.759
<v Speaker 1>loose in their bodies, so they all seem amazing at

0:56:13.800 --> 0:56:15.839
<v Speaker 1>acting and you just feel like you're bad at acting

0:56:15.880 --> 0:56:19.120
<v Speaker 1>all of a sudden. Yeah, that was, you know, the

0:56:19.160 --> 0:56:22.880
<v Speaker 1>sort of initial experience. But I wasn't like out of practice.

0:56:23.000 --> 0:56:25.719
<v Speaker 1>I feel like I fell into a groove with with

0:56:25.800 --> 0:56:27.600
<v Speaker 1>the work, and they were all great to work with,

0:56:27.880 --> 0:56:32.480
<v Speaker 1>James especially. What was weird about that experience is that

0:56:33.000 --> 0:56:35.719
<v Speaker 1>first of all, I was I of course would have

0:56:35.760 --> 0:56:37.920
<v Speaker 1>said yes, but I was told I was doing that

0:56:38.000 --> 0:56:40.879
<v Speaker 1>by Miramax. They said, it's we've gotten you an arc

0:56:41.120 --> 0:56:43.360
<v Speaker 1>on the show. Oh you're kind to come out the

0:56:43.400 --> 0:56:47.439
<v Speaker 1>same weekend basically, or the weekend the weeks before. She's

0:56:47.480 --> 0:56:50.120
<v Speaker 1>all that. It was all very strategic because I didn't

0:56:50.160 --> 0:56:50.840
<v Speaker 1>audition for it.

0:56:50.960 --> 0:56:53.440
<v Speaker 2>I don't know how muchage oy.

0:56:53.960 --> 0:56:56.680
<v Speaker 1>And so that's how that went. But when I got there,

0:56:57.600 --> 0:57:01.480
<v Speaker 1>I remember they made some changes to the character that

0:57:01.600 --> 0:57:03.359
<v Speaker 1>was not what I had initially read, and that's how

0:57:03.360 --> 0:57:06.760
<v Speaker 1>TV works, you know, I understand now. But it turned

0:57:06.840 --> 0:57:10.120
<v Speaker 1>into like a kind of lightly humiliating part where my

0:57:10.239 --> 0:57:13.680
<v Speaker 1>character was like obsessed with Katie Holmes's character. So I

0:57:13.719 --> 0:57:18.160
<v Speaker 1>was just like being like weird and small and creepy

0:57:18.200 --> 0:57:20.160
<v Speaker 1>and like taking notes on who she was because I

0:57:20.200 --> 0:57:22.160
<v Speaker 1>was an actress playing the part of her in a

0:57:22.200 --> 0:57:25.160
<v Speaker 1>movie that he was making, okay, and she had all

0:57:25.200 --> 0:57:28.520
<v Speaker 1>these great sick burns, Like there's this one part where

0:57:28.520 --> 0:57:30.920
<v Speaker 1>she says to DOZ and she's too short to me.

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<v Speaker 2>I know, it's so good and I am fun just

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<v Speaker 2>is what it is.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And I was just like, I did not know

0:57:40.720 --> 0:57:42.400
<v Speaker 1>that this was going to be happening when I got

0:57:42.400 --> 0:57:43.200
<v Speaker 1>on the plane.

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<v Speaker 3>Right right, But that's you know, that's life. But that

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<v Speaker 3>is You're right, what a difference between movie. In movies,

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<v Speaker 3>you usually you like fully understand the character and it's

0:57:54.080 --> 0:57:58.160
<v Speaker 3>not usually completely rewritten because then the movie entirely changes,

0:57:58.200 --> 0:58:00.840
<v Speaker 3>whereas TV, especially for a guest star, you could be

0:58:01.040 --> 0:58:03.520
<v Speaker 3>agreed to be one thing and two days later, oh,

0:58:03.600 --> 0:58:05.320
<v Speaker 3>not only is the person playing you different, the whole

0:58:05.400 --> 0:58:07.400
<v Speaker 3>character is a different thing totally. So yeah, that is

0:58:07.440 --> 0:58:09.800
<v Speaker 3>a little shocking to have come from the movies you've

0:58:09.800 --> 0:58:11.520
<v Speaker 3>done and then be like I still have to do it.

0:58:12.440 --> 0:58:14.960
<v Speaker 2>Oh I don't do I get does anybody care? I

0:58:14.960 --> 0:58:15.680
<v Speaker 2>don't like it?

0:58:15.920 --> 0:58:19.960
<v Speaker 1>So many ziggers? Yeah, it was still fun, Like after

0:58:19.960 --> 0:58:22.000
<v Speaker 1>you sort of learned to. After I learned to embrace

0:58:22.040 --> 0:58:25.320
<v Speaker 1>it a little bit more, it got more and more fun.

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<v Speaker 3>How did you or maybe you did at some point,

0:58:40.040 --> 0:58:42.200
<v Speaker 3>but having been doing this now for the amount of

0:58:42.240 --> 0:58:46.880
<v Speaker 3>decades that we have, how did you avoid burnout? Or

0:58:46.880 --> 0:58:48.920
<v Speaker 3>did you experience it at some point and then just

0:58:48.920 --> 0:58:49.360
<v Speaker 3>get through it?

0:58:49.520 --> 0:58:50.240
<v Speaker 1>Haven't we all?

0:58:50.400 --> 0:58:52.160
<v Speaker 2>Yeah? I feel like I have for sure.

0:58:52.680 --> 0:58:55.400
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think the burnout when I sort of let

0:58:55.400 --> 0:59:00.960
<v Speaker 1>myself acknowledge it happened in my I can only say

0:59:01.000 --> 0:59:02.880
<v Speaker 1>this because, you know, having started as young as we did.

0:59:02.920 --> 0:59:05.680
<v Speaker 1>I was fifteen, you said your twelve, like I think

0:59:05.680 --> 0:59:09.120
<v Speaker 1>it was in my It was right after I had

0:59:09.240 --> 0:59:11.480
<v Speaker 1>both my kids. And it's not because I was working

0:59:12.200 --> 0:59:16.360
<v Speaker 1>so so much. It was just the the idea of, Hey,

0:59:16.480 --> 0:59:18.800
<v Speaker 1>I am the head of my household. I've made these

0:59:18.840 --> 0:59:22.240
<v Speaker 1>two people. I've survived in the industry this long, and

0:59:22.320 --> 0:59:25.760
<v Speaker 1>I'm still getting calls from my agency saying like, you

0:59:25.760 --> 0:59:28.360
<v Speaker 1>need to put yourself on this on tape for this

0:59:28.400 --> 0:59:32.080
<v Speaker 1>by tomorrow, and the copies like you kids come in

0:59:32.120 --> 0:59:35.640
<v Speaker 1>before it's dark, right, you know, and it's just like right,

0:59:35.720 --> 0:59:38.440
<v Speaker 1>it still feels like people are making you prove that

0:59:38.440 --> 0:59:40.640
<v Speaker 1>you can act at all yep, and that just feels

0:59:40.680 --> 0:59:44.080
<v Speaker 1>really hard on the ego, and look, I know it's

0:59:44.120 --> 0:59:47.880
<v Speaker 1>what we signed up, but it just felt really hard.

0:59:47.960 --> 0:59:49.920
<v Speaker 1>And so that nature of just always having to be

0:59:50.080 --> 0:59:53.480
<v Speaker 1>on call, drop everything, you know, this is what you

0:59:53.520 --> 0:59:55.840
<v Speaker 1>have to do if you want to survive, which you

0:59:56.120 --> 0:59:59.760
<v Speaker 1>just keep being told you know that. That's when I

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<v Speaker 1>felt the most burnt out. And it wasn't until I

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<v Speaker 1>started working for Hallmark and they empowered me creatively that

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<v Speaker 1>I started to feel like I had any degree of

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<v Speaker 1>autonomy in the business.

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<v Speaker 3>That is so great. How did that then come about?

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<v Speaker 3>Did they just recognize you as an actor who had

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<v Speaker 3>good suggestions for things. Did you go to them and say, listen,

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<v Speaker 3>I have more to offer I would like to produce.

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<v Speaker 3>Did you come with an idea? How did you make

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<v Speaker 3>that transition?

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<v Speaker 1>I had been offered a couple of movies by them,

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<v Speaker 1>and I was busy, sort of like having my first

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<v Speaker 1>child and you know, being told by my agents like,

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<v Speaker 1>it's probably not that time yet. And the couple scripts

1:00:43.400 --> 1:00:45.920
<v Speaker 1>that I had read by them weren't quite hitting. But

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<v Speaker 1>then I read this one that they sent and I

1:00:49.000 --> 1:00:51.680
<v Speaker 1>just really loved the material. I was like, this is

1:00:51.720 --> 1:00:55.240
<v Speaker 1>so funny and fresh and romantic, and it just it

1:00:55.280 --> 1:00:57.200
<v Speaker 1>felt like what I wanted to say, you know what

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<v Speaker 1>I mean. And it felt really aligned with my kind

1:01:01.480 --> 1:01:05.880
<v Speaker 1>of like peaceful, you know, feel good, loving self. I

1:01:05.920 --> 1:01:08.919
<v Speaker 1>still struggle. I'm trying my hardest to watch Stranger Things

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<v Speaker 1>with my kid right now. I am struggling. I am

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<v Speaker 1>very scared.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so I don't like to be scared. It's not

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<v Speaker 2>for me.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's hard. And so I was just like, oh

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<v Speaker 1>my gosh, you know, this thing that had been for

1:01:21.920 --> 1:01:24.360
<v Speaker 1>no good reasons stigmatized to me, all of a sudden

1:01:24.440 --> 1:01:26.320
<v Speaker 1>felt like a really good idea, and I went, I

1:01:26.360 --> 1:01:29.080
<v Speaker 1>made it and I had the best time. And the

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<v Speaker 1>amazing thing is, back then I think they were making Homework,

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<v Speaker 1>was making something closely two hundred movies a year, right,

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<v Speaker 1>So at that rate, when you get somewhere and you're like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>wait a minute, would it be okay if I X

1:01:40.880 --> 1:01:43.120
<v Speaker 1>Y Z, you know, between these lines or whatever, and

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<v Speaker 1>they're just like, yeah, go for it. Like they they're

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<v Speaker 1>really empowering to the people who work for them, and

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<v Speaker 1>they're so supportive of women.

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<v Speaker 2>Really, that's so great.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. And so when I was able to team up

1:01:55.480 --> 1:01:58.600
<v Speaker 1>with a producer and bring them a project. It just

1:01:58.640 --> 1:02:01.439
<v Speaker 1>sort of, you know, kept going from there. It's been

1:02:01.640 --> 1:02:02.280
<v Speaker 1>really awesome.

1:02:02.560 --> 1:02:04.720
<v Speaker 2>That is so incredible. You're so inspiring.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you. Is there doing it all? Dad?

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<v Speaker 2>Yell? No, I just mostly talk. I just mostly talk

1:02:09.640 --> 1:02:11.200
<v Speaker 2>for a living God. Thank you.

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<v Speaker 3>Is there a time that you wish you had a

1:02:14.040 --> 1:02:18.120
<v Speaker 3>more traditional childhood, especially now where you're watching your kids

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<v Speaker 3>approach the age where you made the big trip out

1:02:21.240 --> 1:02:23.720
<v Speaker 3>to LA. Do you ever wish you could go back

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<v Speaker 3>and do it differently?

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<v Speaker 1>Or you there's some moments where I'll be talking to

1:02:29.560 --> 1:02:32.760
<v Speaker 1>more specifically my daughter these days, about just something that

1:02:32.840 --> 1:02:35.400
<v Speaker 1>might be happening with her socially this then yahther and

1:02:35.440 --> 1:02:39.520
<v Speaker 1>I'll be trying to give her advice or something like that,

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<v Speaker 1>and it will just be falling on the deafest of years,

1:02:42.280 --> 1:02:45.480
<v Speaker 1>and I will realize that I am both forty six

1:02:46.320 --> 1:02:49.840
<v Speaker 1>really far from you know, her age and experience growing

1:02:49.920 --> 1:02:53.040
<v Speaker 1>up these days. And also I didn't do my younger

1:02:53.080 --> 1:02:55.520
<v Speaker 1>years the way she's doing them, and so I wish

1:02:55.600 --> 1:02:59.640
<v Speaker 1>sometimes that I felt like I was able to relate. Yeah,

1:03:00.000 --> 1:03:01.840
<v Speaker 1>don't know if that would have been brought about by

1:03:01.880 --> 1:03:06.920
<v Speaker 1>the passage of time, regardless but yeah, there's this weird

1:03:07.000 --> 1:03:10.560
<v Speaker 1>moment that's always been so burned in my brain. When

1:03:10.560 --> 1:03:12.400
<v Speaker 1>I was filming Tom and Hawk, I remember going to

1:03:12.440 --> 1:03:15.320
<v Speaker 1>a matine movie with my mom on the weekend when

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<v Speaker 1>we were filming, and a bunch of kids came out

1:03:18.440 --> 1:03:20.720
<v Speaker 1>of whatever movie they were seeing, and they were all

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<v Speaker 1>in the parking lot throwing the extra ice from their

1:03:24.640 --> 1:03:27.840
<v Speaker 1>drinks at each other, and I just remember having this

1:03:27.960 --> 1:03:31.880
<v Speaker 1>weird feeling just up the back of my spine, and

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<v Speaker 1>I just kind of knew that no one was ever

1:03:33.440 --> 1:03:37.440
<v Speaker 1>gonna like throw lies at me. Oh and like it

1:03:37.680 --> 1:03:41.720
<v Speaker 1>felt in a weird way like I had graduated in

1:03:41.800 --> 1:03:46.560
<v Speaker 1>some form, and in another way it felt kind of sad. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so it's funny. I did a movie let Me See

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<v Speaker 1>a little over a year ago now with my good

1:03:53.920 --> 1:03:56.880
<v Speaker 1>friend with a karsh Ambod car shout out I Love

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<v Speaker 1>you from Ghost He's the best. Everybody loved him. That's

1:04:00.320 --> 1:04:02.800
<v Speaker 1>a very meta story about an actress who goes back

1:04:02.840 --> 1:04:05.960
<v Speaker 1>to her hometown and reconnects with him, her high school boyfriend.

1:04:06.480 --> 1:04:10.720
<v Speaker 1>And we put in this moment where our characters go

1:04:10.800 --> 1:04:12.840
<v Speaker 1>and get big LPs and then we chuck iceed each

1:04:12.840 --> 1:04:14.840
<v Speaker 1>other and that was I'm not gonna say it was

1:04:14.880 --> 1:04:18.240
<v Speaker 1>healing for me. That would be a real shortcut to like, ye,

1:04:18.720 --> 1:04:22.080
<v Speaker 1>you know, glazing that moment. But if there's a if

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<v Speaker 1>there was a moment that.

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<v Speaker 3>Was it wow beautiful, you didn't understand it, I do.

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<v Speaker 3>I do understand, And I would like to just point

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<v Speaker 3>out that you you did not have someone to throw

1:04:32.400 --> 1:04:35.280
<v Speaker 3>ice at you, but you did have right or strong

1:04:35.520 --> 1:04:38.920
<v Speaker 3>to drag you through a spiky flower patch. And so.

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<v Speaker 1>I did right. I always will, yep, I always.

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<v Speaker 2>Will, for sure.

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<v Speaker 3>But yeah, writer also pulled me into the rain. Loved

1:04:47.840 --> 1:04:49.320
<v Speaker 3>to run in the rain, and we were in I

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<v Speaker 3>think we were in Orlando, and it was like I

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<v Speaker 3>think it was at the end of the day and

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<v Speaker 3>the hair and makeup we were, you know whatever, and

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<v Speaker 3>then it was like Danielle, let's get it's raining, and

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<v Speaker 3>I remembering like, yeah, stay inside, no, grab took my

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<v Speaker 3>by the hand and we ran in the rain and

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<v Speaker 3>it was very fun. But I also remember in the

1:05:06.760 --> 1:05:10.680
<v Speaker 3>moment being like, he thinks this is so romantic, like.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I remember, yeah, And I was like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I know, And we say this from a place of love,

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<v Speaker 1>and of course, of course, of course, and I love

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<v Speaker 1>that that's who that boy is.

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<v Speaker 3>I hope he still is he is he is, and

1:05:25.000 --> 1:05:27.720
<v Speaker 3>his family is all the better for it's It's very

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