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Speaker 1: consensus top prospect if you took positions in this That's

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Speaker 1: why when we talked about like DJ and all these

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Speaker 1: other people that are doing their mocks and like, how

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Speaker 1: am I gonna do? I know, the bears a trade

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Speaker 1: in this pic. I gotta take somebody in the spot

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Speaker 1: Jalen Carter because he's a top prospect defensive lineman, well,

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Speaker 1: he's got some issues because he was at the at

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Speaker 1: the combine in India and then he left UH suddenly

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Speaker 1: because a rest warrant was issued on Jalen Carter UH

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Speaker 1: for racing and reckless drive. And it's a very serious,

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Speaker 1: tragic situation that he was allegedly involved with. There was

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Speaker 1: a drag racing incident in January. According to the Athens

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Speaker 1: Clark County Police Department, Carter was racing with Georgia recruiting

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Speaker 1: staff or Chandler Lacroix, and Lacroix and a offensive lineman

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Speaker 1: on the team, Devin Willock, were killed in a single

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Speaker 1: car accident that night. Carter was at the scene of

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Speaker 1: the incident. He left before the police came came back,

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Speaker 1: misled investigators saying that he wasn't according to the police,

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Speaker 1: said that he was not there when had happened. Well,

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Speaker 1: the police think something else happened here, that he was

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Speaker 1: directly involved with the accident, and now he's gonna have

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Speaker 1: to turn himself into authorities. This is obviously not ideal

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Speaker 1: and on any level, especially in terms of football terms.

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Speaker 1: During combine week. Yeah, the news broke shortly before he

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Speaker 1: was going to have his press comments He released the

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Speaker 1: statement saying this morning he received a telephone call informing

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Speaker 1: that two misdemeanor warrants, and be pointed out, these are misdemeanors.

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Speaker 1: Um that's being accused for reckless driving and racing. He

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Speaker 1: said that numerous media reports circulated inaccurate information concerning the

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Speaker 1: tragic events. It's my intention to return to Athens and

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Speaker 1: answer these misdemeanor charges, and he is no question, when

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Speaker 1: all the facts are known, he'll be fully exonerated of

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Speaker 1: any criminal wrongdoing. When this story popped up, I mean,

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Speaker 1: it was so sad. I'm sure you guys saw a

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Speaker 1: lot of it. Bubbly, even us, not as college football fans,

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Speaker 1: like as it happened, like what a tragic story. A

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Speaker 1: woman who's closed, you know, who worked and was involved

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Speaker 1: with the students, and then another athlete and Carter was

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Speaker 1: broken up. And even just from a human angle, you

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Speaker 1: can just think about like that this all happened, and

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Speaker 1: this is happening like right before he's gonna have this

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Speaker 1: scouting combine, and you you hurt for the families involved,

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Speaker 1: and you hurt for him. You can be empathetic with

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Speaker 1: him no matter what he did that night. It's like

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Speaker 1: an incredibly traumatic and like life changing you almost like

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Speaker 1: it almost seems like like a bad movie and kind

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Speaker 1: of a nightmare for everyone. I mean, I guess the

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Speaker 1: thing that we've learned doing the show, so long as

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Speaker 1: like it's got to play out, he will have a

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Speaker 1: chance to tell his side of the story. He's gonna

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Speaker 1: have a lot of NFL teams they're gonna want to

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Speaker 1: like hear what he has to say about it. I mean,

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Speaker 1: there's stuff around him that goes a little bit before

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Speaker 1: this incident as well. So it's it's all happening very publicly,

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Speaker 1: and I think when you know he's like twenty one

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Speaker 1: years old, suddenly this thing that could again if he

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Speaker 1: were a different type of person, take place in private,

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Speaker 1: is happening in front of the entire world. And it's

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Speaker 1: probably a lot to bear on your shoulders. And the

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Speaker 1: whole incident to start with, yeah, not good at all.

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Speaker 1: Let's take a break and hit the rest of the news.

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Speaker 1: All right, we're back. Let's get more into again. Everyone

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Speaker 1: at the risers at the combine. We're not at the combine,

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Speaker 1: other people at the combin So here is Bengals GM

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Speaker 1: Duke Tobin T. Higgins a subject of interest. They have

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Speaker 1: a lot of money to hand out to Jamar Chase,

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Speaker 1: to Joe Burrow, and does that leave enough to take

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Speaker 1: care of t Higgins as star wide receiver in his

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Speaker 1: own right? So thoughts could he be traded? Well, here's

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Speaker 1: what Tobin I'd just says, go get your own stud

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Speaker 1: I'm not in the business of making other teams better.

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Speaker 1: I'm in the business of making the Cincinnati Bengals better,

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Speaker 1: and so trading T Higgins is not on my mind.

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Speaker 1: That's their problem. They want to receiver, go find your

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Speaker 1: own you know, in my opinion, you know, T Higgins

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Speaker 1: is a good piece for the Cincinnati Bengals. So the

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Speaker 1: trade stuff is a little ridiculous right now. See I

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Speaker 1: like to hear these because you could really parse, like

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Speaker 1: what's real and what's not. Te Higgins is on the

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Speaker 1: Bengals next September. Anybody disagree? No, I completely agree. I

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Speaker 1: love this new energy from the Bengals because we talked

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Speaker 1: to Duke Tobin a year ago when we were president

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Speaker 1: at the Combine Human Form and he basically told us, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna go out and get a bunch of linemen

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Speaker 1: and find a way to protect over He just went

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Speaker 1: straight forward and said, yeah, this is a needer, we're

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Speaker 1: gonna go address it right and they went and did it.

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Speaker 1: And I kind of think this is how the Bengals

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Speaker 1: want to operate from here on out. They don't need

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Speaker 1: to toy with us verbally. I don't think there's any

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Speaker 1: reason that you moved t Higgins. Look at if they're

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Speaker 1: If you're the Bengals right now, I would just say

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Speaker 1: this real quick. You look at the Chiefs over the

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Speaker 1: last couple of months. You went from a team that

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Speaker 1: lost last year in the playoffs, came off a Super

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Speaker 1: Bowl loss the year before, and now you're back on

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Speaker 1: the mountaintop. The Bengals keep getting close. Their window is

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Speaker 1: open forever with Joe Burrow, as they said, why would

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Speaker 1: you remove a guy in te Higgins who, honestly, ultimately

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Speaker 1: we might look back and say he could match Jamar

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Speaker 1: Chase's career, He could even have a better career. You

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Speaker 1: never know all these things. I just say he played.

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Speaker 1: He played the number one role all year long when

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Speaker 1: Chase wasn't in the lineup and totally thrived. I thought

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Speaker 1: one of the only reasons they got to where they

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Speaker 1: were is because of guys like t Higgins. I'd have

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Speaker 1: to make a list, but I feel pretty safe Te

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Speaker 1: Higgins would be in my top fifteen receivers in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: And this story bubbled up, I think, And someone point

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Speaker 1: out if I'm wrong, but I think it all came

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Speaker 1: from like some aggregating gone wrong. This used to be

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Speaker 1: on my radar, as you know, we tried to have

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Speaker 1: rules about aggregating roadal world and it was just like

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Speaker 1: presented in an athletic article of like all the possible

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Speaker 1: things that could be on the table, just to you,

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Speaker 1: not even not even suggested even in the article. They

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Speaker 1: kind of said, this is unlikely, this isn't going to happen,

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Speaker 1: but they're gonna have to, you know, they're gonna have

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Speaker 1: to start thinking about the future these are And then

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Speaker 1: someone kind of went a little too hard from it,

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Speaker 1: and then it just took fire and it makes no sense.

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Speaker 1: In fact, I think they're gonna keep Tyler Boyd too,

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Speaker 1: which people have speculated that would make more sense, but

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Speaker 1: he's not really paid that much. I think they know

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Speaker 1: this is a beautiful window. Joe Burrow's gonna get his

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Speaker 1: money this year. They've talked about that this is a

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Speaker 1: beautiful window where they're all together. Probably not all gonna

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Speaker 1: be together forever. I don't think t Higgins is getting

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Speaker 1: that long term contract from the Bengals. You might get

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Speaker 1: franchise tech next year, but that's next year. Keep all together.

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Speaker 1: One about you send that aggregator into a four day darkness,

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Speaker 1: retreat him. Better send him all there, or send him

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Speaker 1: on a walk with his dog on that you just

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Speaker 1: walk around with the dog, go take that. And you

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Speaker 1: know who else wins there, but the just you the dog. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: ge Wize gets forty five minutes right around in a

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Speaker 1: basement all day long. It's hot out hell yeah um,

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Speaker 1: And I agree. And I love Joe Burrow, and you

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Speaker 1: know he's got that swag and that confidence and that ability.

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Speaker 1: Uh So when he says our super Bowl window is

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Speaker 1: my whole career, I'm with you. But right it's it's

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Speaker 1: it's it's open as long as you don't lose your

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Speaker 1: offensive lineman in almost voodoo like cruel fashion one a

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Speaker 1: week for five straight weeks. So it's truly preposterous to

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Speaker 1: what happened to that injury. Luck is is not great.

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Speaker 1: But the point I was trying to make was that,

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Speaker 1: uh with your Super Bowl window, it's never gonna be

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Speaker 1: as open as it is when you, ironically the quarterback

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Speaker 1: are being paid below your market value for what you

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Speaker 1: bring to your team. So the window, sure, it's open

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Speaker 1: for as long as he is a quarterback. But during

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Speaker 1: this rookie contract, however, long much longer less, it's too

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Speaker 1: much longer. It's like that kind of that was it,

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Speaker 1: and that's why I think part of the frustration if

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Speaker 1: I'm a Bengals fan, it's those last two years to

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Speaker 1: get that close when you had that huge advantage. We

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Speaker 1: shall see. I hope they stick around. I like watching

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Speaker 1: the Bengals UM play big games. In other news, the

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Speaker 1: Eagles have um repopulated their coordinator seats Sean Desai is

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Speaker 1: their new defensive coordinator. Brian Johnson the new OC after

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Speaker 1: Shane Steichen got a head coaching job, and so did

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Speaker 1: Jonathan Gannon. Uh So the Eagles UH populate and get

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Speaker 1: set there. I think I think this is um a

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Speaker 1: case where I trust the Eagles uh innately with what

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Speaker 1: they've done over the last couple of years with their

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Speaker 1: reboot post Doug Peterson and just listen to Jalen Hurts

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Speaker 1: talk about Brian Johnson. He's basically said, this guy is

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Speaker 1: he works with him one on one every day. This

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Speaker 1: is the next big head coach. He has been coaching

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Speaker 1: and working around Jalen Hurts, and Jalen Hurts was four

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Speaker 1: years old. Johnson's dad called coach Jalen World. So that

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Speaker 1: so it's like, that is that transition. I trust with

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Speaker 1: the said, I mean, he's been he is a he's

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Speaker 1: a good coll he's been a coordinator before. He's everyone

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Speaker 1: who's been around him. Pete Carroll gushed about him. But

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Speaker 1: think about this defense like free your free agents include

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Speaker 1: Fletcher Cox, Javon Hargrave, Brandon Graham, James Bradberry, Chauncey Gardner, Johnson, Lynvall,

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Speaker 1: Joseph Robert, Quinn, Donickin, Sue and Kaiser White, bar T J.

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Speaker 1: Edwards in there. Yes, I mean there's a lot of transition.

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Speaker 1: I think that coordinator has got a bigger challenge than

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Speaker 1: Brian Johnson does. Right now, Brian Johnson's gonna be a

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Speaker 1: head coaching candidate if the Eagles often stays effect just

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Speaker 1: the way they they talk about him and good on

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Speaker 1: Sirianni kind of talking, yeah, talking that talk, walking that

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Speaker 1: walk he had three coordinators of color, like we don't

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Speaker 1: see many black offensive coordinators and said Johnson is one

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Speaker 1: that's risen and people love what he did in college

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Speaker 1: and love it at the pros. Decide was with the

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Speaker 1: Bears in Naggi's last year. Um came from the Fangio Tree.

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Speaker 1: Everyone Fangio is really influential. Yeah, half the league is

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Speaker 1: the Fangio Tree, and they h infamously, at least for

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Speaker 1: Eagles fans had Fngio be a consultant for the Super

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Speaker 1: Bowl and well they run a lot of Fio stuff.

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Speaker 1: Had had a rough game but brought into Seahawks lost

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Speaker 1: some big coaches. That was like my darkness to Tree,

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Speaker 1: don't anything more than that was beautiful. I have reset.

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Speaker 1: Speaking of Jonathan Ghannon, he is the head coach of

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Speaker 1: the Arizona Cardinals and it is going to be a

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Speaker 1: transition year for the Arizona Cardinals because Kyler Murray had

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Speaker 1: ACL reconstruction surgery. He is going to miss a chunk

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Speaker 1: of the regular season. Gannon said on the podium in Indianapolis,

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Speaker 1: They're not going to rush him back because quote part

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Speaker 1: of what makes Kyler so elite, you know, are his legs.

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Speaker 1: So when he's ready to play, he'll play. I don't

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Speaker 1: know exactly the timetable right now. That all makes sense

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Speaker 1: to me. What doesn't make is much sense to me.

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Speaker 1: And perhaps, gentlemen, you could shine a light in this regard.

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Speaker 1: Is why there's so much talk about DeAndre Hopkins leaving

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Speaker 1: the Cardinals. I know there's some contract things. In terms

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Speaker 1: of guaranteed money left on his deal, there isn't any,

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Speaker 1: so this would be a time you could move him

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Speaker 1: in a painless manner. But then what does that leave

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00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:38,760
Speaker 1: for Kyler Murray when he gets back, or Cult McCoy,

640
00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:41,720
Speaker 1: for instance, while he's there. Anyway, these are questions I have.

641
00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:44,720
Speaker 1: Here is what Gannon said about the uncertain future of

642
00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:47,880
Speaker 1: his number one wide receiver. We are evaluating everyone. I

643
00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:50,240
Speaker 1: know this. He's a premier receiver. You have to have

644
00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:53,440
Speaker 1: a plan for He limits you with how you have

645
00:32:53,480 --> 00:33:00,400
Speaker 1: to play defense. He's a valuable asslet for us going

646
00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:06,760
Speaker 1: Why though, Well, I mean so because they're not going

647
00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:10,800
Speaker 1: to be competitive this year and now is the time

648
00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:13,120
Speaker 1: where his value is still high enough. And I think

649
00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:15,200
Speaker 1: that's just a restart, and he's slowed down. He's not

650
00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:16,920
Speaker 1: as good a player and so what's he gonna be

651
00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:21,040
Speaker 1: when he's thirty one or thirty two, twenty twenty thirty,

652
00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:23,360
Speaker 1: when he is competitive. He's thirty one now and he

653
00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:25,080
Speaker 1: has a thirty million dollar cap hit. You have a

654
00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:27,240
Speaker 1: new general manager in a new coach. I just think

655
00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:30,240
Speaker 1: it's probably trending towards Anne. It's another year were last

656
00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:32,440
Speaker 1: year you didn't have Hopkins for the big chunk of

657
00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:33,920
Speaker 1: the season to start. Now you don't know what you're

658
00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:36,320
Speaker 1: gonna get out of Murray and it's another mismatch. And

659
00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:38,200
Speaker 1: then he's only on under contract for one more year.

660
00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:40,600
Speaker 1: So I think it's like trade high, move on. It's

661
00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:44,120
Speaker 1: not ideal, but they probably run out of options with

662
00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:46,520
Speaker 1: the guy right when he's When they say he's not sure,

663
00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:49,360
Speaker 1: I mean that usually just means it's over. I get it.

664
00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:52,200
Speaker 1: I get your point. Dan. Whoever the quarterback is going

665
00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:55,320
Speaker 1: to be there. He's heard some teddy whispers. He's worked

666
00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:58,280
Speaker 1: with their offensive coordinator, like for while Kyler Murray's hurt,

667
00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:00,320
Speaker 1: like it's not it's not helping him. But he also

668
00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:02,479
Speaker 1: isn't quite the same player. I think he could get

669
00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:06,360
Speaker 1: a little rejuvenation machine. Though he's not like a separator

670
00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:08,040
Speaker 1: he'd be a nice number two. I feel like, give

671
00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:10,200
Speaker 1: me a perfect number two. They were coordinators. Drew Petsing

672
00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:13,080
Speaker 1: like he spent all last season with Jacobe percent is

673
00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:16,040
Speaker 1: a free rights. That's a nice little guy. I would

674
00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:19,080
Speaker 1: love him as a Corey Davis replacement. And for the

675
00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:22,440
Speaker 1: Jets playing across from a certain because I didn't get

676
00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:24,200
Speaker 1: a good pick, don't you. I think you might get

677
00:34:24,200 --> 00:34:27,279
Speaker 1: a friend. And maybe he's not the same guy, and

678
00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:29,760
Speaker 1: he is coming off a PD, but he's not ancient.

679
00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:32,600
Speaker 1: And in just nine games last year he had sixty

680
00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:35,040
Speaker 1: four catches over seven hundred yards. I mean, he's still

681
00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:38,480
Speaker 1: highly productive. I would want him. I'm a team in

682
00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:41,640
Speaker 1: a second. I just get why the Cardinals, with every

683
00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:43,960
Speaker 1: all these new faces, might just be just gonna be

684
00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:46,759
Speaker 1: a really if they trade Hopkins was like a top

685
00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:48,520
Speaker 1: five receiver at one time, and maybe now he's a

686
00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:53,720
Speaker 1: top twenty receiver. He still needs somebody to catch balls

687
00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:56,080
Speaker 1: and be your number one guy. I get it, though,

688
00:34:56,280 --> 00:34:59,360
Speaker 1: you're spinning forward, but you're I mean, are you tanking?

689
00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:00,759
Speaker 1: If you have a Cardinal? This year? Is that where

690
00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:03,160
Speaker 1: this is heading? They'll never say it, but it seems

691
00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:04,440
Speaker 1: like the kind of year where you got to give

692
00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:06,799
Speaker 1: everyone just a free pass depending on when you get

693
00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:09,160
Speaker 1: Kyler back and what the RUSSA a great job. Jonathan

694
00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:11,560
Speaker 1: Anna took over a very tough gig here, and we've

695
00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:14,560
Speaker 1: talked about that. But if they start trading the assets

696
00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:16,719
Speaker 1: they have in addition to all the uncertainty a quarterback,

697
00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:20,680
Speaker 1: it's what's called an unintentional tank. Their offensive line. They

698
00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:24,560
Speaker 1: have eight offensive line free agents off a defensive line

699
00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:28,280
Speaker 1: that wasn't very good, and about six or seven defensive

700
00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:31,520
Speaker 1: contributors off a defense that wasn't good. It's like, thank you, Steve.

701
00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:36,920
Speaker 1: CON's a true rebuilding. Yes, yes, yes, let's see John Lynch,

702
00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:41,920
Speaker 1: John Lynch Mark, who's John Lynch? He is the general

703
00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:43,960
Speaker 1: manager thing I'm just going to start doing. I don't

704
00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:46,080
Speaker 1: like the open questions in general. I don't mind this one.

705
00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:48,640
Speaker 1: The general manager of the Niners, who a couple of

706
00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:51,200
Speaker 1: years ago when we were at the Combine, when I

707
00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:54,359
Speaker 1: took a dare from west to where my bathrobe over

708
00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:56,759
Speaker 1: to the convention center, looked over and wondering if it

709
00:35:56,800 --> 00:35:58,880
Speaker 1: was an NFL prospect. I don't know what, maybe a puncher,

710
00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:01,440
Speaker 1: a kicker, but he was like, why is someone allowed

711
00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:04,440
Speaker 1: over here in the bathroom and that's with you then yo,

712
00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:10,480
Speaker 1: we already yeah, um, I mean an established um premier

713
00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:14,799
Speaker 1: general manager and too yeah, when I do that, I'm

714
00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:18,640
Speaker 1: never gonna put you in a tough spot like where

715
00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:22,000
Speaker 1: I'll be like you have before. No, I would never

716
00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:25,920
Speaker 1: do that, And I want I'm like Mark who's before today?

717
00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:29,120
Speaker 1: For instance, Mark, who's Aubrey Marcus? Like, I'm not gonna

718
00:36:29,160 --> 00:36:31,160
Speaker 1: do that to you. Okay, I'll measure whether or not

719
00:36:31,239 --> 00:36:33,440
Speaker 1: you're doing this. That will be my end putting, not yours.

720
00:36:34,120 --> 00:36:36,600
Speaker 1: H John Lynch GM of the Niners. I don't know

721
00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:38,400
Speaker 1: if you have that right, but that is who he is.

722
00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:41,560
Speaker 1: He had this to say about the quarterback situation for

723
00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:44,640
Speaker 1: San Francisco, which is, you know a little bit dodgy,

724
00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:48,560
Speaker 1: still with Brock Purty, still hasn't even had surgery yet

725
00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:52,320
Speaker 1: on the elbow Trey Lance coming off a season ending injury.

726
00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:56,040
Speaker 1: Jimmy g out the door. Here's where Lynch came down

727
00:36:56,120 --> 00:36:59,839
Speaker 1: at the combine. I felt like, felt really good going

728
00:36:59,840 --> 00:37:02,000
Speaker 1: to training camp that we were kind of insulated in

729
00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:06,680
Speaker 1: the event that anything happened, and you know, unfortunately it wasn't.

730
00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:08,960
Speaker 1: It wasn't quite enough. It got us right at the end.

731
00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:12,720
Speaker 1: And so I think we're all product of our experiences. Um,

732
00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:15,520
Speaker 1: we've learned. Um. You know, it was in some meetings

733
00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:19,480
Speaker 1: today where the league's discussing potential solutions for you know,

734
00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:21,880
Speaker 1: third quarterbacks such that we never have that kind of

735
00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:24,799
Speaker 1: but the reality is it's it's very few and far

736
00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:29,799
Speaker 1: between where those instances happen. Um, So you know, we'll

737
00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:32,120
Speaker 1: see and yeah, we we may have to look into

738
00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:34,880
Speaker 1: the quarterback market in addition to Brock and Tray to

739
00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:38,239
Speaker 1: insulate ourselves from from whatever may happen. You could hear

740
00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:40,840
Speaker 1: it Lynch's voice. He's just kind of annoyed. He's like,

741
00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:43,520
Speaker 1: I thought I had this covered and the possibly I

742
00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:46,440
Speaker 1: do not. Right. It's like his house was broken into

743
00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:49,160
Speaker 1: and so you get like a great security system and

744
00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:51,719
Speaker 1: then it was like broken into again, and you're then

745
00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:53,799
Speaker 1: you like build a form tree drop, right, you like

746
00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:56,000
Speaker 1: build a fortress around it. It It was broken in again,

747
00:37:56,040 --> 00:37:57,840
Speaker 1: and he just like, what what could I possibly do?

748
00:37:57,920 --> 00:38:00,319
Speaker 1: It is a good offseason, though, to just like bring

749
00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:03,000
Speaker 1: in a guy, I assume that's all it's gonna be.

750
00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:07,120
Speaker 1: Although they feel so desperate and hungry for to capitalize

751
00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:09,040
Speaker 1: on the Super Bowl window, that you never know. I

752
00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:11,480
Speaker 1: feel like they'd be a wild card in some bigger names,

753
00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:13,800
Speaker 1: but if not, they can get in like the Heineke

754
00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:18,680
Speaker 1: Keenum sort of market. Mariota. I don't know, maybe just

755
00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:22,560
Speaker 1: as like an extra third Mike White. How about Mike White.

756
00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:24,520
Speaker 1: You know, it's interesting with the Cardinal going back to

757
00:38:24,560 --> 00:38:27,520
Speaker 1: the Cardinals for a second, like if they are tanking,

758
00:38:27,640 --> 00:38:29,959
Speaker 1: or if they are not tanking, we will I guess see,

759
00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:33,319
Speaker 1: or or perhaps it will be hinted strongly to us

760
00:38:33,800 --> 00:38:37,520
Speaker 1: like Cult, McCoy a respect mark. If they just roll

761
00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:41,120
Speaker 1: with Cult for six to eight to ten to twelve

762
00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:44,919
Speaker 1: to seventeen games, that's pretty good indication that they are

763
00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:47,880
Speaker 1: perfectly fine with this thing rolling out a certain way.

764
00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:50,720
Speaker 1: Because there are plenty of options to go find somebody

765
00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:53,640
Speaker 1: to cover you this season. If you wanted to go

766
00:38:53,719 --> 00:38:55,799
Speaker 1: that route, that would be probably an upgrade over where

767
00:38:55,880 --> 00:38:58,239
Speaker 1: McCoy is in two thousand. I would really push for

768
00:38:58,280 --> 00:39:00,600
Speaker 1: someone like percent because I think you can you can

769
00:39:00,640 --> 00:39:02,440
Speaker 1: say we're not aiming for the super Bowl, but he

770
00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:05,080
Speaker 1: can get you adequate start. I think Cole McCoy with

771
00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:08,719
Speaker 1: Cliff Kingsbury gone and Cole McCoy's concussion issues and the

772
00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:11,360
Speaker 1: way that season ended. I'm not sure where Cole McCoy's

773
00:39:11,480 --> 00:39:13,719
Speaker 1: next season at all. He had a minor procedure U

774
00:39:14,080 --> 00:39:15,640
Speaker 1: it was revealed, but we did see him at the

775
00:39:15,640 --> 00:39:19,760
Speaker 1: Super Bowl Hotel thirty seven. He looked, He looked fantastic.

776
00:39:19,840 --> 00:39:22,680
Speaker 1: He's kind of in great shape. Think he'll probably be

777
00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:25,759
Speaker 1: released unfortunately, but we do not wish that upon him. Well,

778
00:39:26,120 --> 00:39:27,799
Speaker 1: or they just roll with them and they're like, let's

779
00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:30,080
Speaker 1: do this. They're not rolling. They're not gonna go Cole McCoy.

780
00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:32,720
Speaker 1: That's just don't there's no connected tissue to the current

781
00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:35,520
Speaker 1: coaching staff. I see what Dan's saying. Now, we might

782
00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:38,839
Speaker 1: want to win. It would be a way to like

783
00:39:39,040 --> 00:39:40,799
Speaker 1: they already had that draft pick right now that I

784
00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:43,080
Speaker 1: mean to put. You have a good soldier there. Cult

785
00:39:43,120 --> 00:39:45,680
Speaker 1: McCoy is a good soldier, but he's not gonna lift

786
00:39:45,719 --> 00:39:47,760
Speaker 1: the team. I don't need to see Cole McCoy playing

787
00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:51,080
Speaker 1: anymore football. I'm surprised the people around him that love him,

788
00:39:51,120 --> 00:39:53,400
Speaker 1: I'm sure have some mixed feelings. I'm sure he has

789
00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:56,120
Speaker 1: some mixed feelings, and based on watching hard knocks and

790
00:39:56,160 --> 00:39:58,959
Speaker 1: stuff like, I know he loves football, but man, it's

791
00:39:59,280 --> 00:40:03,439
Speaker 1: they do what Either put him in the dark room

792
00:40:03,520 --> 00:40:07,000
Speaker 1: or send him on a walk with the captain my dog,

793
00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:09,879
Speaker 1: I mean with your dog, well or his dog whatever.

794
00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:16,240
Speaker 1: But uh, that's what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna undercut

795
00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:22,200
Speaker 1: the market for Aubrey be Now you're gonna be charging people.

796
00:40:25,680 --> 00:40:28,560
Speaker 1: He's not. He doesn't own the retreats. It's not his business.

797
00:40:29,160 --> 00:40:31,560
Speaker 1: He just goes there. Uh. Oh, he was in the

798
00:40:31,560 --> 00:40:37,000
Speaker 1: fleshlight business at one point, according to all Right. Anyway,

799
00:40:37,239 --> 00:40:40,160
Speaker 1: in other news, let's let's let's get Mike g in

800
00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:43,600
Speaker 1: in a few minutes. Uh, da da da da. Let's see.

801
00:40:44,040 --> 00:40:46,240
Speaker 1: Let's see. Oh you want to hear from uh our buddy,

802
00:40:46,280 --> 00:40:49,120
Speaker 1: Mike McDaniel, Dolphin's head coach. Yeah, I love that guy.

803
00:40:49,239 --> 00:40:54,640
Speaker 1: Here's a fun little exchange, reporter asking McDaniel about what

804
00:40:54,680 --> 00:40:57,319
Speaker 1: he looks for in a running back. What qualities are

805
00:40:57,360 --> 00:41:01,280
Speaker 1: you looking for as you build this running back room? Back? Um?

806
00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:09,000
Speaker 1: The best qualities? Funny? Uh. And then he talked about

807
00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:11,520
Speaker 1: the quarterback position. You know, I think, well it's a

808
00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:14,839
Speaker 1: little bit uh. And I'm sure did he go on

809
00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:17,479
Speaker 1: on a long answer? Yeah, I'm sure it was great

810
00:41:17,560 --> 00:41:22,320
Speaker 1: and and interesting. Um, but I just love that about it. Yeah, UM,

811
00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:24,560
Speaker 1: but the quarterback position is I feel like not being

812
00:41:24,560 --> 00:41:28,319
Speaker 1: talked about a lot around Miami, and it's very wide open,

813
00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:34,280
Speaker 1: you would think, right, given uh the concussion issues for Tuah. UM,

814
00:41:34,320 --> 00:41:37,520
Speaker 1: here's what McDaniel said about tah in the future of

815
00:41:37,600 --> 00:41:41,239
Speaker 1: that position. Well, I think, UM, you know, like any

816
00:41:41,239 --> 00:41:45,680
Speaker 1: other player, you factor in every variable. UM. You know,

817
00:41:45,760 --> 00:41:49,520
Speaker 1: I think you know one thing that uh you know

818
00:41:49,560 --> 00:41:53,480
Speaker 1: when you're when you're talking about those types of decisions. UM,

819
00:41:53,520 --> 00:41:57,359
Speaker 1: I think it's important to recognize that, UM, we have

820
00:41:57,960 --> 00:42:02,120
Speaker 1: a congruence of interest by the Dolphins and the player

821
00:42:02,680 --> 00:42:07,320
Speaker 1: UM toa that that we both want UM. Both parties

822
00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:11,080
Speaker 1: really want him to UM play at a very high

823
00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:14,640
Speaker 1: level for a long time for the Miami Dolphins. So UM,

824
00:42:14,719 --> 00:42:20,040
Speaker 1: what's the best way to to really UM engineer that

825
00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:25,000
Speaker 1: or to UM help manifest that. Well, UM, those are

826
00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:28,160
Speaker 1: the things that were kind of UM Wayne in terms

827
00:42:28,200 --> 00:42:33,680
Speaker 1: of the various options UM with you know, the same

828
00:42:34,200 --> 00:42:39,759
Speaker 1: UM desired end is as UM too would like. So

829
00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:44,200
Speaker 1: you factor in everything UM as best you can. UM.

830
00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:47,239
Speaker 1: But you know that that's part of this game that

831
00:42:47,440 --> 00:42:54,120
Speaker 1: we're all with. So UM, you see you press forward

832
00:42:56,200 --> 00:43:00,320
Speaker 1: for the organization. But like um, what a great landing.

833
00:43:00,360 --> 00:43:03,279
Speaker 1: Stop lying in the weeds a little bit here to

834
00:43:03,360 --> 00:43:05,720
Speaker 1: make some type of big move accord, what about Lamar Jackson?

835
00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:08,200
Speaker 1: Although I mean, I know there's there's money issues and

836
00:43:08,239 --> 00:43:11,799
Speaker 1: salary cap issues for all these big time quarterbacks, but

837
00:43:11,840 --> 00:43:14,920
Speaker 1: I just wonder an owner was a little like right now,

838
00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:17,400
Speaker 1: I would say, Mike McDaniel do not exist in the

839
00:43:17,400 --> 00:43:20,760
Speaker 1: realm of power most powerful coaches in terms of having autonomy,

840
00:43:20,840 --> 00:43:23,959
Speaker 1: Like it's an owner that chased Tom Brady, um yanked

841
00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:27,000
Speaker 1: him onto a yacht. It's an owner that chased Deshaun Watson.

842
00:43:27,239 --> 00:43:29,000
Speaker 1: You just never know. I mean, you could certainly have

843
00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:32,280
Speaker 1: wandering eyes. Tua has. It was noted that twas taking

844
00:43:32,360 --> 00:43:35,840
Speaker 1: um jiu jitsu uh this offseason to learn how to

845
00:43:35,880 --> 00:43:38,400
Speaker 1: fall better, to fall more gracefully, to not create some

846
00:43:38,440 --> 00:43:40,839
Speaker 1: of these issues potentially, right, They said that should work.

847
00:43:40,840 --> 00:43:42,520
Speaker 1: They were trying to have it both ways. They said, like,

848
00:43:42,680 --> 00:43:44,839
Speaker 1: how I feel much better about the situation. They were like,

849
00:43:44,880 --> 00:43:48,120
Speaker 1: they have that they want him as their quarterback, but

850
00:43:48,239 --> 00:43:51,560
Speaker 1: also that they would take time before making the decision

851
00:43:51,560 --> 00:43:53,279
Speaker 1: on the fifth year option, but they would also like

852
00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:55,440
Speaker 1: to give him, you know, a long term contract if

853
00:43:55,440 --> 00:43:58,040
Speaker 1: it's that if it's possible. I don't know. All I

854
00:43:58,120 --> 00:44:03,040
Speaker 1: know is that the suit Mike McDaniel was wearing, I

855
00:44:03,080 --> 00:44:08,520
Speaker 1: liked it and pointed out clothes Horse himself. It was

856
00:44:08,560 --> 00:44:10,759
Speaker 1: a hoodie. It was a hoodie suit, which I was like,

857
00:44:11,120 --> 00:44:13,759
Speaker 1: you gotta be, you gotta be Mike McDaniel to pull

858
00:44:13,800 --> 00:44:18,120
Speaker 1: that off potentially UM. Jeff Darlington, also a well dressed man,

859
00:44:18,440 --> 00:44:21,480
Speaker 1: pointed out the company that made it and it retails

860
00:44:21,520 --> 00:44:25,719
Speaker 1: for anywhere between seven hundred and seventeen hundred a draw

861
00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:30,800
Speaker 1: string hoodie suit, Cashmere. I liked it well. Mike McDaniel

862
00:44:30,880 --> 00:44:33,240
Speaker 1: was dinged for like, oh now you're now you're dressing

863
00:44:33,320 --> 00:44:35,960
Speaker 1: rich because it's a it's like it gave me shades

864
00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:37,840
Speaker 1: of like a class year version of like what we

865
00:44:37,880 --> 00:44:40,400
Speaker 1: saw Mark Davis wearing UM at the Super Bowl week

866
00:44:40,400 --> 00:44:42,640
Speaker 1: a couple years ago. And you said, Mike, Mike McDaniel,

867
00:44:42,680 --> 00:44:44,600
Speaker 1: cities grew up. He's grown up port his whole life,

868
00:44:44,960 --> 00:44:49,160
Speaker 1: and he's like he's gonna be spending out money now.

869
00:44:50,400 --> 00:44:53,880
Speaker 1: But I'm rich. I love that rich cash And just

870
00:44:53,920 --> 00:44:55,759
Speaker 1: to put a bow on this, you have to be

871
00:44:55,960 --> 00:45:00,360
Speaker 1: outside your mind to give to a long term cut object.

872
00:45:00,680 --> 00:45:02,160
Speaker 1: They're not going to do that. I don't think they'll

873
00:45:02,200 --> 00:45:03,480
Speaker 1: do that, right. The only thing with two of them,

874
00:45:03,480 --> 00:45:05,319
Speaker 1: doesn't He seem like the quarterback that if you don't

875
00:45:05,320 --> 00:45:07,160
Speaker 1: give him the fifth year option, it's in his head.

876
00:45:07,480 --> 00:45:09,880
Speaker 1: They'll give him. They'll give it to him. Any thing's

877
00:45:09,920 --> 00:45:11,759
Speaker 1: his head that I'm concerned about. Well, okay, but I

878
00:45:11,800 --> 00:45:14,440
Speaker 1: mean the confidence. Yes, sure, I mean this is the

879
00:45:14,480 --> 00:45:16,319
Speaker 1: second thing inside. I'm with you. It would be a

880
00:45:16,360 --> 00:45:19,640
Speaker 1: weird move to not give it to him. Why how

881
00:45:19,640 --> 00:45:22,759
Speaker 1: would it be? It's think it would be irresponsible organizationally,

882
00:45:22,760 --> 00:45:28,520
Speaker 1: if because it's a little bit of a year ago, guys,

883
00:45:28,640 --> 00:45:31,160
Speaker 1: he was saying he was member. He said, he asked himself,

884
00:45:31,200 --> 00:45:32,799
Speaker 1: like do I suck at this? Like I think he

885
00:45:32,840 --> 00:45:36,160
Speaker 1: needs to be lifted up version versus some quarterback that's

886
00:45:36,160 --> 00:45:38,200
Speaker 1: like going to take it as motivations. Don't love that either.

887
00:45:38,320 --> 00:45:39,759
Speaker 1: But I don't love it at all. But it just

888
00:45:39,800 --> 00:45:42,600
Speaker 1: seems like it's just a we're guessing. Definitely pick up

889
00:45:42,600 --> 00:45:45,160
Speaker 1: the option. I'm with you, guys, a long term deal

890
00:45:45,719 --> 00:45:52,280
Speaker 1: outside your mind. Let's uh hit eight o'clock to light dark.

891
00:45:52,280 --> 00:45:56,040
Speaker 1: Carr meeting with the Panthers as he continues his free

892
00:45:56,080 --> 00:45:58,160
Speaker 1: agent tour. I think he has another meeting with the

893
00:45:58,239 --> 00:46:01,279
Speaker 1: Jets as well. He's all met as we know with

894
00:46:01,320 --> 00:46:06,000
Speaker 1: the Saints. The Falcons release Marcus Mariota, the quarterback who

895
00:46:06,680 --> 00:46:08,439
Speaker 1: left the team at the end of the season under

896
00:46:08,560 --> 00:46:13,040
Speaker 1: mysterious circumstances that will all be revealed on a Netflix program,

897
00:46:13,040 --> 00:46:15,480
Speaker 1: but they will not anoint Desmond Ritter is their QB

898
00:46:15,600 --> 00:46:18,280
Speaker 1: one now. I think they're going QB hunting and Mariota

899
00:46:18,320 --> 00:46:22,640
Speaker 1: is pretty low on my list of quarterback options. Yeah.

900
00:46:22,680 --> 00:46:25,040
Speaker 1: Last year, Yeah, the way it ended, we don't need

901
00:46:25,080 --> 00:46:27,600
Speaker 1: to see that. Leonard Fournette's time with the Bucks has

902
00:46:27,640 --> 00:46:30,400
Speaker 1: come to come to an end. He requested his release

903
00:46:30,480 --> 00:46:32,800
Speaker 1: from the team and they will grant him that release,

904
00:46:32,880 --> 00:46:37,439
Speaker 1: so he is out there. Johnny Johnson also on his own,

905
00:46:37,520 --> 00:46:40,920
Speaker 1: now released by the Browns. And Kenny Golladay one of

906
00:46:40,920 --> 00:46:43,279
Speaker 1: the biggest bus and free agents signing history of the

907
00:46:43,280 --> 00:46:46,400
Speaker 1: New York Giants. He is cut mark. How about this number?

908
00:46:46,680 --> 00:46:49,840
Speaker 1: He made thirty six million from the even for a

909
00:46:49,880 --> 00:46:52,880
Speaker 1: total of forty three catches and one score. It's crazy

910
00:46:52,920 --> 00:46:54,880
Speaker 1: to look at like his Lions career and then what

911
00:46:54,920 --> 00:46:57,040
Speaker 1: happened with the Giants. It's like there was a body switch.

912
00:46:58,120 --> 00:47:01,560
Speaker 1: Multiple teams are interested in Brandon Cooks. According to a report,

913
00:47:02,120 --> 00:47:04,920
Speaker 1: Leslie Fraser stepping away from A or the DC the Bills,

914
00:47:04,960 --> 00:47:08,200
Speaker 1: but he plans to return. Commanders have placed a tag

915
00:47:08,239 --> 00:47:12,320
Speaker 1: on Duran Payne, and speaking of the Commanders, Finally, ESPN

916
00:47:12,360 --> 00:47:16,440
Speaker 1: reports that federal prosecutors are investigating a fifty five million

917
00:47:16,440 --> 00:47:20,000
Speaker 1: dollar loan taken out by Commander's owner Dan Snyder in

918
00:47:20,080 --> 00:47:24,560
Speaker 1: two twenty. It's the primary focus of a criminal investigation

919
00:47:25,080 --> 00:47:29,200
Speaker 1: into Snyder after the franchise's minority owners, which control forty

920
00:47:29,200 --> 00:47:31,880
Speaker 1: percent of the team, accuse Snyder of taking out the

921
00:47:31,920 --> 00:47:38,719
Speaker 1: loan without there required approval. This is like the messiest

922
00:47:39,800 --> 00:47:43,920
Speaker 1: ownership of our lifetime, I think, or at least like

923
00:47:43,960 --> 00:47:47,360
Speaker 1: the last twenty years. And I guess it's not shocking

924
00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:51,759
Speaker 1: that it's ending in such a ugly, dirty way. The

925
00:47:51,840 --> 00:47:54,719
Speaker 1: last few years have been ugly for this franchise. This

926
00:47:54,800 --> 00:47:59,000
Speaker 1: is all happening amid various reports conflicting from the Washington

927
00:47:59,040 --> 00:48:03,359
Speaker 1: Post in different sources of Snyder selling the team but

928
00:48:03,440 --> 00:48:05,480
Speaker 1: maybe doesn't really want to sell the team and doesn't

929
00:48:05,480 --> 00:48:07,439
Speaker 1: want to sell it to Bezos who might who wants

930
00:48:07,480 --> 00:48:09,520
Speaker 1: the team, but now he will he maybe he's just

931
00:48:09,560 --> 00:48:11,719
Speaker 1: trying to drive up the price. Who knows, but I

932
00:48:11,760 --> 00:48:14,399
Speaker 1: think the NFL is just trying to end this thing

933
00:48:14,440 --> 00:48:17,200
Speaker 1: and land the plane before it gets any worse. And

934
00:48:17,239 --> 00:48:21,239
Speaker 1: this this seems like getting worse. Yeah, And relatedly, it

935
00:48:21,280 --> 00:48:24,520
Speaker 1: was reported on Monday that Snyder is demanding protection from

936
00:48:24,560 --> 00:48:28,239
Speaker 1: future legal action should he That tells you everything you need.

937
00:48:28,560 --> 00:48:32,560
Speaker 1: The Washington franchise, which could happen this offseason or maybe

938
00:48:32,600 --> 00:48:38,279
Speaker 1: could not. The old Dick Nixon For Commanders fans out there,

939
00:48:38,640 --> 00:48:42,279
Speaker 1: who is Nixon? I believe you're you're referring to the

940
00:48:42,320 --> 00:48:46,759
Speaker 1: former president, right, Yeah, resigned and was pardoned of all potential. Yeah,

941
00:48:46,880 --> 00:48:50,560
Speaker 1: well that you know, that's how that works. It's ugly

942
00:48:51,080 --> 00:48:56,600
Speaker 1: Watergate hotel, tough, tough situation. The subject of the great

943
00:48:56,600 --> 00:49:01,800
Speaker 1: film Frost Nixon or Presidents or a greater film starring

944
00:49:02,040 --> 00:49:07,880
Speaker 1: Kirsten Dunst and the Girl from Dawson's Creek Chelle Williams.

945
00:49:07,920 --> 00:49:12,319
Speaker 1: She's her career has actually transcended Dawston's Creek. I should say, yeah.

946
00:49:12,480 --> 00:49:15,839
Speaker 1: At the time, I believe she's got some hardware Oscar.

947
00:49:16,360 --> 00:49:18,359
Speaker 1: She's one of the great actresses of our time at

948
00:49:18,360 --> 00:49:21,359
Speaker 1: the time. Unbelievable, what have you have guessed. What are

949
00:49:21,400 --> 00:49:25,479
Speaker 1: you talking about about Michelle Williams. Yeah, no, it could

950
00:49:25,480 --> 00:49:27,200
Speaker 1: have been a little out there to say she would

951
00:49:27,200 --> 00:49:30,120
Speaker 1: have achieved excellent. She was great on that show and

952
00:49:30,239 --> 00:49:33,080
Speaker 1: recognized for it, but I still think she wasn't the

953
00:49:33,120 --> 00:49:37,080
Speaker 1: big ste trophies a little over celebrated for the Fableman's

954
00:49:37,080 --> 00:49:38,880
Speaker 1: which to me was about as hot as cold as

955
00:49:38,880 --> 00:49:41,400
Speaker 1: it gets minus lie whoa, he didn't like the Fable

956
00:49:42,560 --> 00:49:45,520
Speaker 1: feel like it got shotgun here from nineteen ninety three. Okay,

957
00:49:45,560 --> 00:49:49,600
Speaker 1: I haven't seen it. So Manchester by the Sea, Oh,

958
00:49:49,680 --> 00:49:52,880
Speaker 1: that was That was a tough one. That's scene walking

959
00:49:52,880 --> 00:49:55,840
Speaker 1: back to the house after walking the dog. No, he

960
00:49:55,880 --> 00:49:58,160
Speaker 1: went to the liquor store. Actually, that would have been

961
00:49:58,160 --> 00:50:01,200
Speaker 1: a bad beat for me if it was walking the dog. Yeah,

962
00:50:02,440 --> 00:50:05,120
Speaker 1: it would have been like huge win for Aaron Rodgers.

963
00:50:05,680 --> 00:50:10,960
Speaker 1: Big beat. Uh for the Zazzer. Uh, let's see including

964
00:50:11,719 --> 00:50:17,040
Speaker 1: when is this? Let's see Michelle Ingrid Williams uh, nineteen

965
00:50:17,080 --> 00:50:21,160
Speaker 1: eighty baby nice. She was received various accolades, including two

966
00:50:21,239 --> 00:50:25,799
Speaker 1: Golden Globe Awards, a Primetime Emmy, in addition to nominations

967
00:50:26,120 --> 00:50:30,839
Speaker 1: for five Oscars and doesn't have the hardware yet very

968
00:50:30,880 --> 00:50:36,720
Speaker 1: well that's like hoisted the Lombardi Dang five best perform

969
00:50:36,800 --> 00:50:39,320
Speaker 1: and that's lead actress. Yeah, you gotta give her, you

970
00:50:39,400 --> 00:50:42,640
Speaker 1: gotta give her the hardware, you know. At some point here,

971
00:50:42,719 --> 00:50:45,520
Speaker 1: all right, let's take a break and uh, let's bring

972
00:50:45,640 --> 00:50:47,600
Speaker 1: a Mike g on the show to get caught up

973
00:50:47,600 --> 00:51:08,120
Speaker 1: on everything else going on in Indie. Welcome back, unbelievable

974
00:51:08,600 --> 00:51:11,800
Speaker 1: development here. We need an insider. We need someone boots

975
00:51:11,840 --> 00:51:16,319
Speaker 1: on the ground who gets it, who's trusted in the

976
00:51:16,360 --> 00:51:19,879
Speaker 1: realm of news gathering. And we have that man. Mike

977
00:51:19,920 --> 00:51:25,040
Speaker 1: Garafolo joins us. That's my jam right there. I love

978
00:51:25,120 --> 00:51:28,480
Speaker 1: that intro music. We give you the Silk Stockings jam,

979
00:51:28,520 --> 00:51:31,120
Speaker 1: just to get you in the mood. In the mood.

980
00:51:31,160 --> 00:51:33,359
Speaker 1: I don't know where you're talking about. I've never heard

981
00:51:33,360 --> 00:51:36,960
Speaker 1: of it. Mike, how are you, buddy? What's going on

982
00:51:37,040 --> 00:51:39,320
Speaker 1: in Indie? We're not there this year, so we need

983
00:51:39,560 --> 00:51:42,160
Speaker 1: we need a real perspective on the vibe. Let me

984
00:51:42,200 --> 00:51:46,239
Speaker 1: guess exactly the same as every other year. Oh yeah,

985
00:51:46,280 --> 00:51:50,160
Speaker 1: you're surprised to hear that Prime forty seven. The steakhouse

986
00:51:50,239 --> 00:51:54,520
Speaker 1: here in Indianapolis is quite crowded, you know, and it's

987
00:51:55,120 --> 00:51:57,719
Speaker 1: here's the frustrating part is that you try to be

988
00:51:57,760 --> 00:52:00,799
Speaker 1: smart and you say, I'm gonna get out of here,

989
00:52:01,000 --> 00:52:05,400
Speaker 1: twelve thirty, right, plenty of time. Uh put in, clocked in,

990
00:52:05,600 --> 00:52:08,400
Speaker 1: clocked out, And then you realize it's two thirty all

991
00:52:08,400 --> 00:52:10,759
Speaker 1: of a sudden, and it's like, wait a minute, I

992
00:52:10,800 --> 00:52:14,040
Speaker 1: was on my way to the door. Why why haven't

993
00:52:14,040 --> 00:52:17,319
Speaker 1: I gotten there yet? And we were just ratting, you know,

994
00:52:17,320 --> 00:52:22,080
Speaker 1: a bunch of coaches walking through the hallways to kind

995
00:52:22,080 --> 00:52:25,160
Speaker 1: of start the show NFL Now today, and you're going, Okay,

996
00:52:25,160 --> 00:52:26,880
Speaker 1: I saw that guy out. Yeah, he was out. He

997
00:52:26,960 --> 00:52:28,480
Speaker 1: was out. So I know he's feeling the way that

998
00:52:28,520 --> 00:52:31,759
Speaker 1: I'm feeling today because I know what time I came home,

999
00:52:32,320 --> 00:52:34,520
Speaker 1: and it was before he went home, because he was

1000
00:52:34,520 --> 00:52:36,439
Speaker 1: still there when I left. You should know that Prime

1001
00:52:36,520 --> 00:52:40,399
Speaker 1: forty seven is famously the place where former Panthers coach

1002
00:52:40,400 --> 00:52:43,680
Speaker 1: Matt Rule was nice to mark, which changed and shaded

1003
00:52:43,680 --> 00:52:45,839
Speaker 1: a lot of the analysis from mister Seiler. Well, I'm

1004
00:52:45,840 --> 00:52:50,319
Speaker 1: easily crafted and molded, So yeah, that's how that's how

1005
00:52:50,320 --> 00:52:53,040
Speaker 1: it works for instances too. Not all of them, uh,

1006
00:52:53,480 --> 00:52:55,759
Speaker 1: just some of them that are a little shorter than

1007
00:52:55,800 --> 00:52:59,840
Speaker 1: me and uh, bleary eyed this morning, I said some

1008
00:53:00,000 --> 00:53:01,719
Speaker 1: thing on the air. We just did NFL. I said

1009
00:53:01,760 --> 00:53:04,440
Speaker 1: something on the air and Ian kind of looked at me.

1010
00:53:04,480 --> 00:53:06,200
Speaker 1: It was something about Lamar Jackson. I was trying to

1011
00:53:06,200 --> 00:53:08,359
Speaker 1: make the point that if the Ravens use the non

1012
00:53:08,440 --> 00:53:11,600
Speaker 1: exclusive tag, it could be good for them because then

1013
00:53:11,600 --> 00:53:14,360
Speaker 1: he can go out and have conversations with other teams

1014
00:53:14,520 --> 00:53:17,479
Speaker 1: and they could be like, look, you know, we told

1015
00:53:17,480 --> 00:53:19,200
Speaker 1: you we're trying to offer you a fair deal, and

1016
00:53:19,239 --> 00:53:21,719
Speaker 1: if the other teams offer similar saying okay, see we

1017
00:53:21,800 --> 00:53:23,760
Speaker 1: tried to tell you, this is kind of how it works.

1018
00:53:23,880 --> 00:53:26,360
Speaker 1: And if he gets the fully guaranteed deal, it's like, okay, great,

1019
00:53:26,400 --> 00:53:28,759
Speaker 1: now we can either match it or we can work

1020
00:53:28,760 --> 00:53:30,200
Speaker 1: out a trade or whatever. So I made this whole

1021
00:53:30,239 --> 00:53:32,160
Speaker 1: point that the non exclusive tag is the way that

1022
00:53:32,239 --> 00:53:35,239
Speaker 1: I would go because it allows him to have conversations

1023
00:53:35,280 --> 00:53:37,600
Speaker 1: and see what's out there. And he kind of stared

1024
00:53:37,600 --> 00:53:39,120
Speaker 1: at me, and then we came back and I said

1025
00:53:39,120 --> 00:53:43,920
Speaker 1: it again and he goes, oh, on the air, oh

1026
00:53:43,960 --> 00:53:46,360
Speaker 1: now I get what you're saying. And I'm like, welcome.

1027
00:53:48,120 --> 00:53:55,080
Speaker 1: Rhet Lewis is here. He's enjoying my camera stand, which

1028
00:53:55,160 --> 00:53:58,960
Speaker 1: is a trash can. The phone is on a trash

1029
00:53:58,960 --> 00:54:03,120
Speaker 1: can that's been for our We have no issue with that. Yeah,

1030
00:54:03,480 --> 00:54:05,400
Speaker 1: And you know Rappaport, he's trying to hang with a

1031
00:54:05,480 --> 00:54:07,920
Speaker 1: McAfee crew to show that he's one of them, and

1032
00:54:08,000 --> 00:54:09,680
Speaker 1: that just going to lead to issues for him as well.

1033
00:54:09,680 --> 00:54:12,719
Speaker 1: That's you know, that's not his style. Well, what about

1034
00:54:12,760 --> 00:54:16,400
Speaker 1: the Lamar thing? Let's talk about something that obviously in

1035
00:54:16,520 --> 00:54:20,239
Speaker 1: terms of the big quarterbacks, it's Rogers and Lamar. So

1036
00:54:20,280 --> 00:54:23,000
Speaker 1: we'll start with Lamar. Is there anything that you've kind

1037
00:54:23,000 --> 00:54:26,040
Speaker 1: of heard recently or through the grape vine or where

1038
00:54:26,120 --> 00:54:28,239
Speaker 1: is this with you? Do you think this happens? Do

1039
00:54:28,239 --> 00:54:31,400
Speaker 1: you think he ends up on a new team. I

1040
00:54:31,440 --> 00:54:34,319
Speaker 1: think there's a definite shot. And I feel like it's

1041
00:54:34,360 --> 00:54:36,160
Speaker 1: more than just financials right now. I feel like it's

1042
00:54:36,200 --> 00:54:38,799
Speaker 1: it's feelings, right and he's made it clear. There was

1043
00:54:38,840 --> 00:54:41,480
Speaker 1: that one Instagram post or was it a tweet and

1044
00:54:41,560 --> 00:54:44,080
Speaker 1: said something about if you don't appreciate what you have,

1045
00:54:44,520 --> 00:54:48,520
Speaker 1: I'm paraphrasing, but he was making it clear that it

1046
00:54:48,520 --> 00:54:51,239
Speaker 1: doesn't feel appreciate it and he wants the kind of

1047
00:54:51,239 --> 00:54:54,200
Speaker 1: a deal that you know, listen for better or for worse,

1048
00:54:55,000 --> 00:54:56,880
Speaker 1: and right now it looks like for worse. Unless he

1049
00:54:56,920 --> 00:55:00,880
Speaker 1: turns it around Deshaun Watson. Last year he had teams

1050
00:55:00,880 --> 00:55:03,560
Speaker 1: at the table. Now we can have a long discussion

1051
00:55:03,880 --> 00:55:06,719
Speaker 1: about whether he should have, and not just from a

1052
00:55:07,440 --> 00:55:10,360
Speaker 1: on field standpoint, but from an off field standpoint as well.

1053
00:55:10,760 --> 00:55:14,760
Speaker 1: But that's the situation that was created, and Lamar Jackson

1054
00:55:14,800 --> 00:55:16,600
Speaker 1: has not had that to this point, which is why

1055
00:55:16,600 --> 00:55:19,520
Speaker 1: I say the non exclusive tag for the Ravens can

1056
00:55:19,560 --> 00:55:21,080
Speaker 1: be like, well, let's just get on with it. Let's

1057
00:55:21,120 --> 00:55:22,719
Speaker 1: just get to the point where he has the chance

1058
00:55:22,760 --> 00:55:24,160
Speaker 1: to go out and talk to other teams. No, that's

1059
00:55:24,200 --> 00:55:27,120
Speaker 1: not full blown free agency, but it's a chance for

1060
00:55:27,200 --> 00:55:30,200
Speaker 1: him to have conversations with other teams and say, hey, okay,

1061
00:55:30,280 --> 00:55:32,160
Speaker 1: let me see what's out there. Let me see if

1062
00:55:32,640 --> 00:55:36,879
Speaker 1: Apple have been alluding to on Twitter and elsewhere. If

1063
00:55:36,880 --> 00:55:38,799
Speaker 1: the Ravens won't pay me a fully guaranteed deal, well

1064
00:55:38,800 --> 00:55:40,279
Speaker 1: there must be four or five other teams that are

1065
00:55:40,280 --> 00:55:42,680
Speaker 1: willing to do so let him find out and let

1066
00:55:42,680 --> 00:55:45,280
Speaker 1: the Ravens find out and maybe just you know, instead

1067
00:55:45,280 --> 00:55:48,520
Speaker 1: of going through this next two years of playing out

1068
00:55:48,560 --> 00:55:50,279
Speaker 1: the tag, if he wants to get to the point

1069
00:55:50,280 --> 00:55:53,000
Speaker 1: where he's truly got the kind of leverage that Kirk

1070
00:55:53,000 --> 00:55:55,080
Speaker 1: Cousins had let's just get on with the show. I'd

1071
00:55:55,120 --> 00:55:57,200
Speaker 1: almost kind of that's the way that I would do

1072
00:55:57,200 --> 00:55:59,000
Speaker 1: it if I was the Ravens. Let's just figure out

1073
00:55:59,000 --> 00:56:00,920
Speaker 1: where we are and get some clarity here. So either

1074
00:56:00,920 --> 00:56:02,480
Speaker 1: we're gonna have him or we're gonna move forward. But

1075
00:56:02,560 --> 00:56:05,279
Speaker 1: we did report Super Bowl Sunday Ian rapport, Tom Pella,

1076
00:56:05,320 --> 00:56:08,520
Speaker 1: Sero and I that we know that the Ravens could

1077
00:56:08,520 --> 00:56:11,360
Speaker 1: get to a point where they are attempted to entertaining

1078
00:56:11,440 --> 00:56:14,920
Speaker 1: trade authors. I mean that would be satisfying from my perspective,

1079
00:56:15,000 --> 00:56:18,040
Speaker 1: because then he would be in a closer situation to

1080
00:56:18,080 --> 00:56:20,400
Speaker 1: the Deshaun Watson situation. The reason why Watson had so

1081
00:56:20,480 --> 00:56:23,880
Speaker 1: much interest is because he first of all allowed his

1082
00:56:23,960 --> 00:56:26,920
Speaker 1: agent to Tampa essentially when he wasn't allowed to trade,

1083
00:56:26,960 --> 00:56:28,640
Speaker 1: and then when he was allowed to make a trade,

1084
00:56:29,040 --> 00:56:31,759
Speaker 1: it was open. And we know Lamar doesn't have that infrastructure.

1085
00:56:31,840 --> 00:56:35,040
Speaker 1: We can't assume that they're going around to other teams

1086
00:56:35,160 --> 00:56:38,600
Speaker 1: and acting illegally because he's on the Ravens and he

1087
00:56:38,880 --> 00:56:41,399
Speaker 1: doesn't have a formal agent. I do think, though, Mike,

1088
00:56:41,440 --> 00:56:44,120
Speaker 1: I'm with you, that would be a compelling way for

1089
00:56:44,160 --> 00:56:46,320
Speaker 1: the Ravens to go but I think you would only

1090
00:56:46,400 --> 00:56:51,799
Speaker 1: do that as a Ravens franchise if you're ready to

1091
00:56:51,960 --> 00:56:55,640
Speaker 1: say he's probably gone, because to me, that putting that

1092
00:56:55,680 --> 00:56:58,760
Speaker 1: out there means he's probably gone. He's a free agent

1093
00:56:59,160 --> 00:57:01,920
Speaker 1: and he'll had a great contract elsewhere. There will be

1094
00:57:01,960 --> 00:57:04,480
Speaker 1: teams bidding, and there'll be more than they're willing to

1095
00:57:04,520 --> 00:57:06,920
Speaker 1: pay because there's thirty one teams out there and they're

1096
00:57:06,960 --> 00:57:09,160
Speaker 1: more desperate, and then you work out the trade terms

1097
00:57:09,160 --> 00:57:12,600
Speaker 1: and he's it might only take a few days. I

1098
00:57:12,680 --> 00:57:14,560
Speaker 1: just don't know how many, Like when you talk about

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00:57:14,600 --> 00:57:16,120
Speaker 1: the teams that are desperate, I just don't know how

1100
00:57:16,160 --> 00:57:21,320
Speaker 1: many there are. I mean this qua yeah, but they

1101
00:57:21,360 --> 00:57:23,720
Speaker 1: have options. They have other options too, right, But they're

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00:57:23,760 --> 00:57:25,920
Speaker 1: not as good as they're why But they're not as

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00:57:25,920 --> 00:57:28,360
Speaker 1: good as Lamar Jackson. None of them are even closer

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00:57:28,440 --> 00:57:30,840
Speaker 1: as good. I don't think it's gonna be. Rodgers isn't

1105
00:57:30,840 --> 00:57:33,160
Speaker 1: even as close as good as Lamar Jackson. You gotta

1106
00:57:33,160 --> 00:57:36,320
Speaker 1: comment down a little bit with the Lamar stuff, at least,

1107
00:57:36,320 --> 00:57:39,000
Speaker 1: like just because Aaron Rodgers making sixty million dollars, I'm

1108
00:57:39,040 --> 00:57:41,040
Speaker 1: not throwing Aaron Rodgers in there. That's that's fair because

1109
00:57:41,040 --> 00:57:43,120
Speaker 1: we don't know that whether he's available or not well.

1110
00:57:43,160 --> 00:57:45,960
Speaker 1: And I would also say this on the sixty million thing. Um,

1111
00:57:46,000 --> 00:57:48,800
Speaker 1: there are a number of folks with teams with quarterback

1112
00:57:48,920 --> 00:57:51,160
Speaker 1: needs that would be interested in Aaron Rodgers that I've

1113
00:57:51,200 --> 00:57:54,040
Speaker 1: spoke to spoken to here in Indianapolis, who say the

1114
00:57:54,080 --> 00:57:56,400
Speaker 1: sixty million dollars number is not gonna work. Like, he's

1115
00:57:56,400 --> 00:57:58,680
Speaker 1: gonna have to whether it's us or somebody else, he's

1116
00:57:58,720 --> 00:58:00,760
Speaker 1: gonna have to come down off that. Now. Rodgers did

1117
00:58:00,800 --> 00:58:03,600
Speaker 1: allude to the fact that if I come back in

1118
00:58:03,720 --> 00:58:05,760
Speaker 1: Green Bay, it's not going to be at that number,

1119
00:58:05,840 --> 00:58:07,640
Speaker 1: but it may have to be that way for the

1120
00:58:07,680 --> 00:58:09,880
Speaker 1: other teams as well. I know I'm zigging and zagging here,

1121
00:58:09,920 --> 00:58:11,240
Speaker 1: but this is this is kind of the way the

1122
00:58:11,320 --> 00:58:14,400
Speaker 1: quarterback market is right now. So much is dependent on

1123
00:58:14,440 --> 00:58:16,880
Speaker 1: everything else that I find myself starting to talk about

1124
00:58:16,960 --> 00:58:19,960
Speaker 1: Lamar Jack. Next thing, I know, I'm talking about Aaron Rodgers,

1125
00:58:20,200 --> 00:58:22,320
Speaker 1: and that's kind of where teams are figuring it out.

1126
00:58:22,440 --> 00:58:25,080
Speaker 1: I just the whole Derek Carr thing here I go

1127
00:58:25,120 --> 00:58:27,200
Speaker 1: bring in another quarterback. The whole Derek Carr thing is

1128
00:58:27,240 --> 00:58:30,360
Speaker 1: interesting to me, particularly from a jet standpoint, because I

1129
00:58:30,400 --> 00:58:33,880
Speaker 1: don't see the Jets diving in with Derek Carr until

1130
00:58:33,920 --> 00:58:37,240
Speaker 1: they know for sure what Aaron Rodgers is going to do,

1131
00:58:37,760 --> 00:58:40,120
Speaker 1: because you don't want to now come to terms with

1132
00:58:40,400 --> 00:58:43,280
Speaker 1: Derek Carr and then be like, oh, Aaron Rodgers wanted

1133
00:58:43,320 --> 00:58:46,080
Speaker 1: to come here, Oh, how would you ever live that down?

1134
00:58:46,360 --> 00:58:49,120
Speaker 1: Derek Carr knows that, right, and he's okay. Is he

1135
00:58:49,160 --> 00:58:51,800
Speaker 1: okay with that knowing that he's essentially the silver medalist

1136
00:58:52,000 --> 00:58:55,800
Speaker 1: for the Jets and the sweep Snakes? Yeah, But I

1137
00:58:55,840 --> 00:58:58,480
Speaker 1: think he's got other irons. I know, well, we know

1138
00:58:58,560 --> 00:59:01,440
Speaker 1: he's got other irons in the fire Right, the Saints,

1139
00:59:01,520 --> 00:59:03,640
Speaker 1: and the Panthers. But I also think that there's more

1140
00:59:03,680 --> 00:59:07,520
Speaker 1: dominoes that could potentially fall beyond that as well that

1141
00:59:07,600 --> 00:59:09,640
Speaker 1: could open up some things for him and give him

1142
00:59:09,640 --> 00:59:12,880
Speaker 1: even more options. So he's got the luxury of getting

1143
00:59:12,880 --> 00:59:15,400
Speaker 1: out there and talking to teams right now before other

1144
00:59:15,480 --> 00:59:17,800
Speaker 1: guys who are free agents are allowed to talk to teams.

1145
00:59:17,840 --> 00:59:19,920
Speaker 1: But he's also got time and he can stretch this

1146
00:59:19,960 --> 00:59:22,200
Speaker 1: thing out to the point where he gets I mean,

1147
00:59:22,240 --> 00:59:24,360
Speaker 1: I'm being laughed at right now for my trash can,

1148
00:59:24,680 --> 00:59:33,400
Speaker 1: and you're helping your YouTube listing everyone check tweets Scott

1149
00:59:33,400 --> 00:59:36,520
Speaker 1: Fitterer thinks it's funny. Dam munths and tweeted something earlier.

1150
00:59:36,520 --> 00:59:38,560
Speaker 1: He thinks it's funny. Somebody out of the corner of

1151
00:59:38,560 --> 00:59:40,480
Speaker 1: my eye didn't see who it was, thought it was funny.

1152
00:59:40,480 --> 00:59:43,040
Speaker 1: Another person's taking a picture. You know what this is? Fine?

1153
00:59:43,120 --> 00:59:45,720
Speaker 1: Mike tell the most Mike hotly viewed episode because all

1154
00:59:45,720 --> 00:59:47,720
Speaker 1: this promotion. Mike tell them you're on the most popular

1155
00:59:47,800 --> 00:59:50,240
Speaker 1: NFL podcast in the world, and that will shut him up.

1156
00:59:51,920 --> 00:59:56,919
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, in your face. I mean, Mike g let's

1157
00:59:56,960 --> 00:59:59,360
Speaker 1: say it's a month and a half from now, Okay,

1158
01:00:00,120 --> 01:00:02,000
Speaker 1: us not saying that you have to tell us you

1159
01:00:02,000 --> 01:00:03,960
Speaker 1: know what. You know that you've got secrets. You're always

1160
01:00:03,960 --> 01:00:06,960
Speaker 1: sitting on explosive rumors and developments that must come out

1161
01:00:07,000 --> 01:00:09,919
Speaker 1: at certain time. I get that, But just play Matt

1162
01:00:10,080 --> 01:00:15,160
Speaker 1: team to quarterback match, Rogers Lamar Derek Carr. Where are

1163
01:00:15,200 --> 01:00:18,520
Speaker 1: each of these quarterbacks when all these psychotic dominoes fall,

1164
01:00:18,720 --> 01:00:21,120
Speaker 1: You're gonna make you gonna make Mike head explode. Well

1165
01:00:21,160 --> 01:00:25,120
Speaker 1: that's what we're here far. Yeah, yeah, yeah, no. Well,

1166
01:00:25,160 --> 01:00:27,960
Speaker 1: I'm still shaking from when Rosenthal asked me here at

1167
01:00:27,960 --> 01:00:29,920
Speaker 1: the Combine a couple of years ago, do you think

1168
01:00:29,960 --> 01:00:32,480
Speaker 1: Philip Rivers is gonna land in Indianapolis, and I said no,

1169
01:00:32,520 --> 01:00:34,439
Speaker 1: and he did, and I just I couldn't get over

1170
01:00:34,520 --> 01:00:37,440
Speaker 1: that one. So, um, let's let's let's match him up.

1171
01:00:37,520 --> 01:00:44,600
Speaker 1: Let's match him up. Yeah, oh yeah, big time big uh. Um,

1172
01:00:44,680 --> 01:00:47,200
Speaker 1: let's match him up. I think Lamar stays in Baltimore.

1173
01:00:47,200 --> 01:00:49,520
Speaker 1: It's just they've done everything that they possibly can to

1174
01:00:49,680 --> 01:00:52,800
Speaker 1: keep this thing positive all along the way. You got

1175
01:00:52,840 --> 01:00:55,840
Speaker 1: the tag at their disposal. Um, I'm gonna say, and

1176
01:00:56,080 --> 01:00:57,800
Speaker 1: it's it's a coin flip in my mind in a

1177
01:00:57,800 --> 01:01:00,120
Speaker 1: lot of ways, but I'm gonna say he stays in Baltimore,

1178
01:01:00,160 --> 01:01:03,000
Speaker 1: so let's keep him there. Rogers and Green Bay just

1179
01:01:03,080 --> 01:01:05,840
Speaker 1: feels like it's over in a lot of ways. So

1180
01:01:06,560 --> 01:01:08,880
Speaker 1: where do I put him? I don't know. I just

1181
01:01:08,920 --> 01:01:11,160
Speaker 1: feel like this Jets thing is just not gonna happen.

1182
01:01:11,200 --> 01:01:14,040
Speaker 1: It just feels too good for the Zeuser man. I

1183
01:01:14,080 --> 01:01:19,320
Speaker 1: just I just I just feel like he's I feel

1184
01:01:19,320 --> 01:01:23,040
Speaker 1: that it's not gonna happen for him. So, um, let's

1185
01:01:23,040 --> 01:01:25,160
Speaker 1: put Derek Carr. Let's put Derek Carr with the Saints.

1186
01:01:26,320 --> 01:01:28,160
Speaker 1: And I think that there's a lot of things that

1187
01:01:28,880 --> 01:01:30,600
Speaker 1: Derek Carr likes about the Saints. You get to play

1188
01:01:30,640 --> 01:01:33,240
Speaker 1: to in a dome versus playing in the weather. So

1189
01:01:33,240 --> 01:01:34,840
Speaker 1: I'll put a car with the Saints. Hey, what the hell?

1190
01:01:34,840 --> 01:01:37,120
Speaker 1: I put Rodgers with the Jets. There you go. Well,

1191
01:01:37,640 --> 01:01:39,880
Speaker 1: that kind of goes nicely into the next tick. There's

1192
01:01:39,880 --> 01:01:41,400
Speaker 1: one other QB I wanted to hit, because he's not

1193
01:01:41,400 --> 01:01:43,680
Speaker 1: getting talked about a lot right now in relation to

1194
01:01:43,720 --> 01:01:46,000
Speaker 1: these other guys. This feels like I might be setting

1195
01:01:46,080 --> 01:01:48,600
Speaker 1: up well for Jimmy g who's gonna hit the market.

1196
01:01:48,760 --> 01:01:52,280
Speaker 1: And you know these teams will have some of them

1197
01:01:52,320 --> 01:01:55,080
Speaker 1: swung and missed for their first choice. And does this

1198
01:01:55,120 --> 01:01:58,080
Speaker 1: set up well for Garoppolo getting another big contract despite

1199
01:01:58,480 --> 01:02:00,760
Speaker 1: you know, all the red flags about what he is

1200
01:02:00,760 --> 01:02:04,240
Speaker 1: as a quarterback and what he isn't. Yeah, another decent contract.

1201
01:02:04,240 --> 01:02:05,800
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what else is setting up nicely for

1202
01:02:05,840 --> 01:02:10,840
Speaker 1: Jimmy Garoppolo is the San Francisco tree. Um, And you've

1203
01:02:10,880 --> 01:02:17,160
Speaker 1: got Tennessee, You've got Houston, You've got the Jets. Um.

1204
01:02:17,280 --> 01:02:20,680
Speaker 1: Who am I missing? Uh? Whether it's a general manager

1205
01:02:20,800 --> 01:02:23,760
Speaker 1: or a coach, you got the Belichick tree in Las Vegas.

1206
01:02:24,800 --> 01:02:28,160
Speaker 1: You got the Belichick tree in Las Vegas. That is correct, Um,

1207
01:02:28,240 --> 01:02:32,280
Speaker 1: They're gonna need somebody as well. Um, so it's he's

1208
01:02:32,520 --> 01:02:35,440
Speaker 1: he's got option, he does, and you know if he

1209
01:02:35,520 --> 01:02:37,800
Speaker 1: winds up in let's say Houston, because I know that

1210
01:02:37,880 --> 01:02:41,600
Speaker 1: Damiko Ryan's likes him. The thing about Jimmy VG is, um,

1211
01:02:41,640 --> 01:02:43,360
Speaker 1: he's one of the guys in a lot of ways,

1212
01:02:43,480 --> 01:02:46,960
Speaker 1: and he's a competitive guy, and the coaches who have

1213
01:02:47,040 --> 01:02:50,040
Speaker 1: seen him operate, no, you know, yeah, he's not the

1214
01:02:50,080 --> 01:02:54,360
Speaker 1: most special guy from a talent standpoint, right, he doesn't

1215
01:02:54,360 --> 01:02:57,440
Speaker 1: have all those intangibles, not INTI those tangibles, but he's

1216
01:02:57,440 --> 01:03:00,160
Speaker 1: got the intent and he's he's been a winner and

1217
01:03:00,200 --> 01:03:03,720
Speaker 1: when he's healthy, he's won football game. So I feel

1218
01:03:03,720 --> 01:03:06,000
Speaker 1: like if he winds up in Houston, it's not a

1219
01:03:06,040 --> 01:03:08,800
Speaker 1: long term thing, but I feel like it's a chance

1220
01:03:08,800 --> 01:03:12,360
Speaker 1: for him to go somewhere and play right away better

1221
01:03:12,400 --> 01:03:15,200
Speaker 1: than some other situations, if that makes sense. I gotta

1222
01:03:15,240 --> 01:03:17,520
Speaker 1: I gotta tell you, Mike, Like, we just took a

1223
01:03:17,520 --> 01:03:20,440
Speaker 1: look at Sam Monson's tweet. The photo we took of

1224
01:03:20,480 --> 01:03:23,080
Speaker 1: you was from PFF and it is just a human

1225
01:03:23,360 --> 01:03:26,720
Speaker 1: adult male talking to a garbage can. That's really what

1226
01:03:26,800 --> 01:03:31,280
Speaker 1: it looks like from a profile, and it's fantastic and

1227
01:03:31,360 --> 01:03:33,360
Speaker 1: it might be the height of what you've achieved here

1228
01:03:33,360 --> 01:03:35,480
Speaker 1: at the COT. Does it looks like a crazy person

1229
01:03:36,040 --> 01:03:39,720
Speaker 1: who's had some type of psychotic break talking to a

1230
01:03:39,840 --> 01:03:44,400
Speaker 1: plastic trash can? Yes, Mark's exactly described how this looks.

1231
01:03:44,440 --> 01:03:46,760
Speaker 1: I can't tell if this is gonna be good for

1232
01:03:47,000 --> 01:03:49,520
Speaker 1: our podcast in the NFL in general, because the shot

1233
01:03:49,520 --> 01:03:52,440
Speaker 1: looks great. Again, people should check it out on YouTube.

1234
01:03:52,480 --> 01:03:54,120
Speaker 1: Maybe they look at it and they think, like, why

1235
01:03:54,120 --> 01:03:57,200
Speaker 1: are we sending all these producers and everything to places

1236
01:03:57,280 --> 01:03:59,760
Speaker 1: when a trash can can do their job and we

1237
01:04:00,000 --> 01:04:02,720
Speaker 1: don't even need to send our podcast there? Or is

1238
01:04:02,760 --> 01:04:06,280
Speaker 1: it is it a bad look um that their their

1239
01:04:06,360 --> 01:04:09,120
Speaker 1: podcast isn't here and we have to use the trash can?

1240
01:04:09,200 --> 01:04:11,760
Speaker 1: Is that somehow embarrassing? I'm not sure how I stand

1241
01:04:12,000 --> 01:04:14,400
Speaker 1: all right, Greggy, Like, it's a it's a double edged

1242
01:04:14,600 --> 01:04:16,240
Speaker 1: it's a double edged short. It is going to a

1243
01:04:16,280 --> 01:04:19,080
Speaker 1: result in more eyeballs, which is going to be a

1244
01:04:19,080 --> 01:04:21,000
Speaker 1: good thing, But it just doesn't feel like something you

1245
01:04:21,000 --> 01:04:24,960
Speaker 1: want to go to the wealth too often. Right, this

1246
01:04:25,000 --> 01:04:29,040
Speaker 1: is what is type thing. The defenses now are ready

1247
01:04:29,080 --> 01:04:31,560
Speaker 1: for the Philly Special. Right, It's just at some point

1248
01:04:31,920 --> 01:04:33,720
Speaker 1: you just use it and you get out you move

1249
01:04:33,760 --> 01:04:36,360
Speaker 1: on to something else. All right, One last thing I

1250
01:04:36,360 --> 01:04:37,920
Speaker 1: I do want to just say, like, at this time

1251
01:04:37,960 --> 01:04:40,919
Speaker 1: a year ago, the whole conventional wisdom because people whold

1252
01:04:40,920 --> 01:04:42,680
Speaker 1: things close to the vest and the combine, is that

1253
01:04:42,720 --> 01:04:44,160
Speaker 1: there wasn't going to be a lot of big time

1254
01:04:44,240 --> 01:04:47,200
Speaker 1: quarterback movement. And then right after the combine ended, there

1255
01:04:47,280 --> 01:04:49,640
Speaker 1: was a ton of big time quarterback movement. So the

1256
01:04:49,680 --> 01:04:51,400
Speaker 1: one thing I would push back on this might be

1257
01:04:51,400 --> 01:04:54,960
Speaker 1: your Philip rivers this year, uh, Mike, And maybe not?

1258
01:04:55,120 --> 01:04:57,200
Speaker 1: Maybe not? Is that I think if Lamar, if they

1259
01:04:57,240 --> 01:05:00,640
Speaker 1: didn't put the non exclusive tag, I think like seven

1260
01:05:00,680 --> 01:05:02,480
Speaker 1: teams will be in on it. I would start with

1261
01:05:02,520 --> 01:05:04,720
Speaker 1: the Deshaun Watson teams from a year ago. They were

1262
01:05:04,720 --> 01:05:07,240
Speaker 1: all desperate for quarterbacks. If they were in on Deshaun Watson,

1263
01:05:07,320 --> 01:05:09,360
Speaker 1: I would expect them to be in on Lamar Jackson.

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Speaker 1: Then you can throw the Commanders, Titans, Raiders, who knows sprite.

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Speaker 1: I just think there'd be enough teams to really bit

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Speaker 1: them up and he would be gone. But I am

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Speaker 1: curious at prime forty seven, you're staying there late, Like

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Speaker 1: what are what are the decision makers all talking about

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Speaker 1: this week? Like what what is uh? What is the

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Speaker 1: hot topic because because there are those league topics that

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Speaker 1: that eventually, if you're having these conversations with gems and coaches,

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Speaker 1: that comes back around. Please don't say the tush push,

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Speaker 1: No push has not been a big It's been a

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Speaker 1: topic of conversation. Uh, it has not been a big

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Speaker 1: topic of conversation. But the Eagles are very upset that

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Speaker 1: they have something that's been very effective for them that

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Speaker 1: they I thought it was it was just a simple play. Curiously,

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Speaker 1: they talked about it like there's but but Cheriani the

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Speaker 1: way he talked about it was that there's they run

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Speaker 1: it better than anybody else. Of course, so you're taking

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01:06:01,680 --> 01:06:04,760
Speaker 1: away something that but it's it seems like you just

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Speaker 1: get two guys behind the guy and you push, and

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01:06:06,520 --> 01:06:08,320
Speaker 1: that's what makes it so hard. But he talked about

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Speaker 1: the technique involved in that play, and they feel like

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Speaker 1: they have so much, so much of an advantage there

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Speaker 1: because of how they run it and the personnel that

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Speaker 1: they deploy. Uh So, anyway, the toush push, what was

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Speaker 1: the question again, Oh, what's the topic of conversation? I

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Speaker 1: think this rookie quarterback class has been fascinating topic of

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Speaker 1: conversation because I think that there is no consensus. I

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Speaker 1: think the third guy on somebody's board and the quarterback

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Speaker 1: is the first guy on somebody else's board. I believe

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Speaker 1: that a lot of people think that Anthony Richardson is

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Speaker 1: going to h have a terrific performance here because listen,

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Speaker 1: these things set up well for guys who have the

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Speaker 1: top and ability, right, because you get to put that

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Speaker 1: ability on display. This is why Zach Wilson pre draft

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Speaker 1: all of his workouts, right. It lent itself to the

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Speaker 1: guy puts the skill set on display. It's not football though,

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Speaker 1: it's not playing the position, it's not running things the

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Speaker 1: way you're supposed to run in an offense. But this

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Speaker 1: is a guy who's gonna come out. Richardson's gonna perform

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Speaker 1: extremely well and put that talent on display, and it's

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Speaker 1: going to create some conversation among some teams as far

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Speaker 1: as where he are inside the teams, as far as

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Speaker 1: where he ranks on the board. So there's been a

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Speaker 1: wide variety of teams, and I've had a lot of

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Speaker 1: teams say that there is no short thing here. Much

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Speaker 1: as we love Bryce Young, there are questions about him

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Speaker 1: and his size and whether that's going to translate to

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Speaker 1: the NFL. So it's gonna be a fascinating draft from

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Speaker 1: a quarterback standpoint. I know that, and that's why Mike,

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Speaker 1: the Bears are trading the number one pick right because

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Speaker 1: there isn't a slam dunk QB that would be an

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Speaker 1: upgrade in their mind over Justin Fields that would compel

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Speaker 1: them to trade the in house guy. As I mentioned

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Speaker 1: the other day before the Bears even talked here, and frankly,

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Speaker 1: I'm surprised that Poles left as much wiggle room as

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Speaker 1: he did, to be honest with you, because my understanding was,

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Speaker 1: and I was having conversation with Bear sources around the

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Speaker 1: Senior Bowl, Hey, we can't wait to indianapp with because

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Speaker 1: we want to field those offers for the first pick.

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Speaker 1: Like that that was going to be the order of

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Speaker 1: business here. I think, you know, as far as evaluating

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Speaker 1: those quarterbacks, I think polls one set out there to

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Speaker 1: kind of get teams to think like they're not just

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Speaker 1: selling that pick, and you've got to convince us. But

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Speaker 1: there's no doubt in my mind that Justin Fields is

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Speaker 1: going to be the quarterback for the Bears. Was a

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Speaker 1: lot more weapons around them because they've got a lot

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Speaker 1: of cap room and a lot of capital. They are

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Speaker 1: going to be a very busy team in the coming weeks,

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Speaker 1: and that's gonna be fun. It's good when the Bears

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Speaker 1: are fun and enjoyable. I think they're going to be.

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Speaker 1: Bears have nearly a one hundred million in cap space,

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Speaker 1: more than any team in the league. Mike, worry that

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Speaker 1: maybe we damaged your reputation and perhaps your long term

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Speaker 1: career prospects with garbage can interview hashtag. But hopefully that's

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Speaker 1: not the case, and if it is, we owe you

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Speaker 1: a beer. That'll do it. Well. Listen, I'll take the beer.

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Speaker 1: I'll take the whiskey if you're offering that as well, sir.

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Speaker 1: But I gotta say that in this business, if you're

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Speaker 1: not willing to talk to a trash can in front

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Speaker 1: of all of your friends in the Indianapolis Convention Center,

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01:09:04,120 --> 01:09:07,920
Speaker 1: you know your head's too big. You haven't lived. Humble,

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Speaker 1: Be humble, be hungry speaking, I'm hungry. I just got

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Speaker 1: a text that my lunch is ready from Carly Lindsay,

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Speaker 1: thank you beautiful right over there, all right, thank you, Mike, gee, thanks,

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Speaker 1: thank you, thank you. Boys. There he goes, and what

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01:09:22,680 --> 01:09:26,080
Speaker 1: a warrior to do that for us. Before we before

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Speaker 1: we started the interview of Mike went through a period

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Speaker 1: where he was thinking, should I just hold it? How

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Speaker 1: long is this going to take? I said about fifteen

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Speaker 1: to eighteen minutes. Ended up taking about eighteen minutes, and

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Speaker 1: in retrospect, he probably should have held the camera. I

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Speaker 1: don't know, he's gonna eat a lot. There's a lot

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Speaker 1: of poop there. You know how those guys are. Our

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Speaker 1: arms get really tired though. Minutes sneaky, you know how

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Speaker 1: sports writers are. They're like, I mean, Mike, geez, so

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Speaker 1: if you if you've seen the Forearmies, he doesn't want

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Speaker 1: to working out. But he was the one that raised

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Speaker 1: that concern. So I thought the framing aspect ratio looked

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Speaker 1: great on the garbage. Can good move? Yes? And it does,

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Speaker 1: even though we're not there this year. It puts us

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Speaker 1: in the conversation perhaps a little bit. Yeah, you know,

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Speaker 1: puts puts us back on people's lips and in their

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Speaker 1: mind right, they're like, oh, yeah, those are the trash guys. Trash.

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Speaker 1: That's what we've been aiming for, especially considering where we

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Speaker 1: were a year ago. If we knew that was our

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Speaker 1: destiny you know, arrow up. Um all right, that is

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Speaker 1: the Wednesday edition of the Around the NFL podcast. We

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Speaker 1: will be back um tomorrow. In fact, that's how we grind,

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Speaker 1: especially on Combine week, whether we're there or not. And

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Speaker 1: we're gonna have land zero line. As I mentioned at

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Speaker 1: the top of the show, who's gonna dig in on

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Speaker 1: the draft situation and Combine and the prospects, and as

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Speaker 1: Mike alluded to, there you know what's going on with

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Speaker 1: these quarterbacks and how these things how quickly they shift

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Speaker 1: right from oh, yeah, you know last year's quarterback class

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Speaker 1: that sucks, and everybody's like, oh, but wait till next

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Speaker 1: year's quarterback class, and now here we are, and all

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01:10:55,200 --> 01:10:57,719
Speaker 1: of a sudden it's like no slam books, but it's yeah,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna have two months of talk about it and

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Speaker 1: maybe Lancel give us some Probably is a Slam Thursday.

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Speaker 1: Here's the thing, though, The consensus is that Picket or

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Speaker 1: anyone in last year's class would have been a distant

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Speaker 1: fifth behind these four. I think like these four a

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Speaker 1: gotta end up going in the top ten or fifteen.

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Speaker 1: So it's juice. At least there's juice. Even if there's

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Speaker 1: no slam dunk. The juice is loose. Thank you everybody

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Speaker 1: for listening, and yes we'll be back again tomorrow. Thank

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Speaker 1: you to Mike Gee, thank you to Justin Graver and

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Speaker 1: everybody behind the glass. Until Thursday. You know what you

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Speaker 1: gotta do. He the call.