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Speaker 1: Prime Cuts Best of the Colin Coward Podcast. Great week.

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Speaker 1: Dan Shaughnessy Boston Globe on the passing of Bill Russell,

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Speaker 1: What the hell do we make a Belichick leaning on

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Speaker 1: Matt Patricia a defensive guys as new OC insider Tyler

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Speaker 1: Dunn vibes at Bills and Steeler's camp, how Aaron Rodgers

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Speaker 1: is going to adjust with lousy weapons and Chad Millman

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Speaker 1: tasty NFL bets hitting into Week one. First though, my

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Speaker 1: top takes of the week. So let's discuss the six

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Speaker 1: game suspension handed down by Judge Sue Robinson for Deshaun Watson.

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Speaker 1: It's complicated. So a couple of years ago the NFL

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Speaker 1: and the NFLPA agreed to this current process. And the

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Speaker 1: reason they agreed to it because the NFL, clumsily for

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Speaker 1: years had really botched many suspensions and they wanted to

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Speaker 1: put it in somebody else's hand, an arbiter independent, no

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Speaker 1: jury involved. It's often a retired judge, so Sue Robinson knows.

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Speaker 1: The CBA was presented with four cases, all nonviolent from

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Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson, and hands down the verdict of six games.

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Speaker 1: Now the NFL has three days, the NFLPA, they have

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Speaker 1: three days to appeal it. My guess is the NFLPA

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Speaker 1: is satisfied with six games. It could have been far worse.

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Speaker 1: This is where it becomes complicated. It's more art than

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Speaker 1: science because Roger Goodell's job and this is not Sue

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Speaker 1: perception is part of that protection. So the largest growing

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Speaker 1: fan base among all demographics in the NFL is women.

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Speaker 1: Six games for thirty accusations Zeke for the Cowboys got

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Speaker 1: six games for one accusation. Big Ben got six games

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Speaker 1: for one accusations were non criminal accusations. This was non

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Speaker 1: criminal right two grand juries did not indict Deshaun Watson.

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Speaker 1: So what do we do here? What does Roger Goodell

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Speaker 1: do well? Executives commissioners are rarely scrutinized for being overly punitive,

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Speaker 1: handing down a very harsh sentence. It's when they go light,

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Speaker 1: which Goodell and the NFL have done several times. It's

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Speaker 1: why they agree to this process two years ago. So

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Speaker 1: Roger Goodell knows better for the league, perception, better for

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Speaker 1: the brand. If they come in and double or triple

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Speaker 1: the suspension, now, the NFLPA would sue. It would drag

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Speaker 1: out for six months in the news cycle. NFLPA doesn't

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Speaker 1: want that. Deshaun Watson doesn't want that. Roger Goodell doesn't

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Speaker 1: want that. So again, more art and science. What do

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Speaker 1: you do to a six game suspension, which to me

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Speaker 1: and many feels light. If you make it eight games?

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Speaker 1: How harsh will the criticism of Goodell be and how

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Speaker 1: long will it last? He will, in my opinion add

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Speaker 1: a full year suspension. Maybe that's unrealistic. My hunch was, however,

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Speaker 1: I think Goodell has been an excellent, excellent commissioner. The

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Speaker 1: multiple previous suspensions he came into light. Executives are always

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Speaker 1: This is never as easy as people on Twitter and

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Speaker 1: My guess is he'll extend it three games, maybe six,

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Speaker 1: I've never felt this. How are they affording it? They

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Speaker 1: you have such a runway on him. If the deal

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Speaker 1: everybody would ask that. It's like, we're are these guys,

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Speaker 1: why aren't you listening to them as coordinators? So he's

426
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Speaker 1: holding onto it in a very stubborn fashion, and you know,

427
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Speaker 1: you point out the gauntlet at the end. The first

428
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Speaker 1: four games can't very easy for them either. So it's this,

429
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Speaker 1: this has potential, and he's a little bit bulletproof because

430
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Speaker 1: he's seventy years old and he's trying to catch Schula.

431
00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:37,200
Speaker 1: He's got the resume. They did make the playoffs last year,

432
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Speaker 1: but we know buffaloes out of reach for them. It

433
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Speaker 1: looks like Miami might have vaulted passed him a little faster. Now,

434
00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:45,679
Speaker 1: Miami beat him twice last year, So what's going on?

435
00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:47,480
Speaker 1: How's this going to go? If they don't get out fast?

436
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Speaker 1: Will Bob Craft ever actually put heat on this Hall

437
00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:52,720
Speaker 1: of Fame coach He's got right in his yard here,

438
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Speaker 1: So it's it's very intriguing. But what they don't have

439
00:25:55,960 --> 00:25:58,520
Speaker 1: is a lot of really talented great players and we're

440
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Speaker 1: not seeing it. And you look at the depths around

441
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Speaker 1: the league where they rank with any position on the field,

442
00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:09,240
Speaker 1: it's not good. Well, I read the Jeff benedict Ian, O'Connor,

443
00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:14,800
Speaker 1: Seth Wickersham books on the Patriots in Belichick. All three

444
00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:20,879
Speaker 1: correctly acknowledge that Brady and Craft were very tight. But

445
00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:24,679
Speaker 1: I did feel in all three books that Craft often

446
00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:30,480
Speaker 1: tolerates Bill's snarkiness, kind of obtuse, cranky nature. And it

447
00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:36,359
Speaker 1: sounds counterintuitive to what you would think, but I've seen

448
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Speaker 1: coaches Andy Reid fall out of favor after a three

449
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Speaker 1: game losing stream and I look at Bill and I

450
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Speaker 1: think this team goes in this division. Miami is better offensively,

451
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Speaker 1: Buffalo is the class of the league. Jets are better offensively,

452
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Speaker 1: and we have a very clear pivot in this league

453
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Speaker 1: to offense. The very good defensive coaches Pete Carroll, struggling,

454
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Speaker 1: Mike Zimmer fired, Ian Flores couldn't get along with the

455
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Speaker 1: quarterback Fangio. These are capable men, and I think to myself,

456
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Speaker 1: what if they don't make the playoffs? Dan, I know

457
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Speaker 1: they're on the bubble of that when it is going in.

458
00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:16,640
Speaker 1: That's a Legitio. Yes, that's a legitimate question going in.

459
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Speaker 1: And I'm kind of a fallback. Bill is so superior

460
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Speaker 1: to all the other coaches, and I still believe that.

461
00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:26,560
Speaker 1: And maybe maybe he's your guy buying newspapers, you know,

462
00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:29,080
Speaker 1: maybe he's still reading newspapers. Maybe that's why I like him,

463
00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:32,199
Speaker 1: because he's old school. But the notion that you know

464
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Speaker 1: you're going to go out of with linebackers who aren't

465
00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:36,560
Speaker 1: that fast anymore, you're gonna still still play the ball

466
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Speaker 1: like it was played in the seventies and eighties, You know,

467
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Speaker 1: maybe that's not working anymore. And in certain positions wide

468
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Speaker 1: receiver that you've never valued, you're going to have to

469
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Speaker 1: value because the league has changed. While you're there turning

470
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Speaker 1: seventy years old, winning all these games, chasing Schuler so

471
00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:52,359
Speaker 1: it makes it an intriguing plotline as we go in,

472
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Speaker 1: How is this going to play out? The notion of

473
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Speaker 1: he's not going to finish behind the Jets. That will

474
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Speaker 1: never happen, right, I mean that would be even he

475
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Speaker 1: would sink his own boat if that happens. So I'm

476
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Speaker 1: not saying you've got to worry about that. But the

477
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Speaker 1: rest of it's very real. And I think that he's

478
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Speaker 1: put all this, He's put a big target on his

479
00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:12,440
Speaker 1: back going in, and I think he just feels that

480
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Speaker 1: he's got the resume and the gravitas to carry this

481
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Speaker 1: time to bring in our buddy, Tyler Dunn, NFL writer

482
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Speaker 1: at golongtd dot com. Now you know him primarily as

483
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Speaker 1: a Packers reporter, but he covers the league. Sat down

484
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Speaker 1: with the Steelers tj WAT a couple of days ago.

485
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Speaker 1: He's now in Indianapolis covering the Colts. He's covered the Steelers.

486
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Speaker 1: We'll get into that in a second. So let's start

487
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Speaker 1: with this. Like, the Packers are a pretty easy read,

488
00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:48,920
Speaker 1: great at running back, tremendous defense, maybe the best corners

489
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Speaker 1: in the league. But and I heard this today, I

490
00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:54,640
Speaker 1: thought it was really interesting that what the Packers are

491
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Speaker 1: doing is sort of building a team that Brady had

492
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Speaker 1: in New England. They can run it, they can defend

493
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Speaker 1: it or win with their quarterback, but not reliant on it.

494
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Speaker 1: But Tyler, something has happened over the last four or

495
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Speaker 1: five years in this league. It's becoming a weapons league.

496
00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:13,520
Speaker 1: Cincinnati had a battle line, not a great defense, but

497
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Speaker 1: they had weapons in a star quarterback and an offensive

498
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Speaker 1: coach and got to the Super Bowl. Same of the Rams.

499
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Speaker 1: If you look at the NFC, every playoff team had

500
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Speaker 1: an offensive coach. If you looked at the AFC, the

501
00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:27,880
Speaker 1: best quarterbacks one. It wasn't necessarily the best teams like

502
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Speaker 1: Tennessee who got bounced at home off a bye. So

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Speaker 1: I look at Green Band, I think, I think they're

504
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Speaker 1: really talented, and I think they could win various ways,

505
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Speaker 1: but they can't win in an arms race. And that's

506
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Speaker 1: what the sport's becoming. And I just look at that

507
00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:46,520
Speaker 1: wide receiving corn I'm like, there is no one. I'd argue,

508
00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:49,600
Speaker 1: there's really no two the top teams in the league.

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Speaker 1: None of those guys are at two. How big of

510
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Speaker 1: a concern is it in the house, they're saying it's

511
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Speaker 1: kumbayah it's all great, but these are smart people. They

512
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Speaker 1: don't have a one or a two wide receiver. In

513
00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:07,760
Speaker 1: an increasingly weapons driven league. It's hard to argue with

514
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Speaker 1: that column when you see teams just loading up, especially

515
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Speaker 1: over in the AFC, right with what we saw this offseason,

516
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Speaker 1: but I think the way that Brian Goodikins and Matt

517
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Speaker 1: Laflor looked at it this offseasons. Yes, I wanted Davante

518
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Speaker 1: Adams back obviously, why wouldn't you, But when they when

519
00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:25,880
Speaker 1: they lost him, they didn't want to be that hamster

520
00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:28,040
Speaker 1: on the wheel, just trying to replace what they had,

521
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Speaker 1: win like they won before and get to that playoff

522
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Speaker 1: game at home and lose it again. I think they're

523
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Speaker 1: trying to win a different game, win a different way,

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Speaker 1: and maybe drag a team into that back alley. They

525
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Speaker 1: haven't done that the last decade, right, I mean they've

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Speaker 1: They've been an offensive minded team that throws a lot,

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Speaker 1: that doesn't win with defense, that doesn't win with the

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Speaker 1: ground game. So what do they do? Like much the

529
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Speaker 1: fans cigarette they went into the draft, they get two

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Speaker 1: Georgia guys for the middle of their defense. Winners, tough players,

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Speaker 1: hard nose. Add that to a top ten defense. You

532
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Speaker 1: hope it's the top five defense. Kenny Clark's elite, Ivandre

533
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Speaker 1: Campbell's one of the best linebackers, Gaile Alexander maybe the

534
00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:11,880
Speaker 1: best coverman. So you can talk yourself into this team.

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Speaker 1: I think winning a different kind of way. And Okay,

536
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Speaker 1: if they would have went out drafted another receiver, given

537
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Speaker 1: the fans what they wanted, fine, maybe that would have worked.

538
00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:23,200
Speaker 1: But I think the Green Bay has kind of seen

539
00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:26,040
Speaker 1: how these last few years went where that's just not working.

540
00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:28,880
Speaker 1: In January, it's not. For whatever reason, they get to

541
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Speaker 1: that playoff game, especially last year at home against San Francisco,

542
00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:36,960
Speaker 1: and Aaron Rodgers just resembles a different quarterback and try

543
00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:40,080
Speaker 1: to win a new way. Yeah, there's no reason to

544
00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:41,960
Speaker 1: beat up on Aaron Rodgers. I think at this point

545
00:31:42,040 --> 00:31:45,800
Speaker 1: he is what he is over the last fifteen playoff games.

546
00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:50,080
Speaker 1: He plays well with a lead, not necessarily behind. Home

547
00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:52,320
Speaker 1: field is an advantage, not as much as we always

548
00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:55,160
Speaker 1: thought it was with Farv. It's not really a criticism.

549
00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:57,360
Speaker 1: I've come to terms with Aaron. He just is what

550
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Speaker 1: he is. He's different, and I do think I do

551
00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:05,200
Speaker 1: think this twofold one year right that the way we're

552
00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:07,640
Speaker 1: doing it's not working. We need to be more physical.

553
00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:12,520
Speaker 1: And two is you know Mark Murphy said we have

554
00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:15,440
Speaker 1: three one year deals with Aaron that if Jordan Love

555
00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:18,160
Speaker 1: had to play, you're not going to win a shootout.

556
00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:21,760
Speaker 1: You're gonna have to win with running in defense. I

557
00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:24,440
Speaker 1: think twofold they look at it and they just sat

558
00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:27,680
Speaker 1: down in a room and said it ain't working because

559
00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:31,080
Speaker 1: our standard is Super Bowls and if Jordan's the quarterback,

560
00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:35,120
Speaker 1: he's gonna need a lot more help defensively. And I

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Speaker 1: just think that's and I don't think when when Mark

562
00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:40,120
Speaker 1: Murphy came out and said that we got three one

563
00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:44,479
Speaker 1: year deals, listen, Aaron's talk retirement four times in two years.

564
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Speaker 1: I think they see the end. I don't think they

565
00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:50,600
Speaker 1: think he's going to finish the three year contract. I

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Speaker 1: really do you. I'm totally with you. I mean, you

567
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Speaker 1: look at his contract, Colin, this could be it. I mean,

568
00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:02,800
Speaker 1: this could be one and done and he leaves and

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00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:05,360
Speaker 1: you're starting over if you're a Green Bay. I mean

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Speaker 1: the way that they've kind of operated with not just

571
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Speaker 1: Darren Rodgers but all of their star players with these deals,

572
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Speaker 1: I mean they're going for it. They really are. I mean,

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Speaker 1: once he walks away, this could be a team that

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Speaker 1: has to just completely blow it up and we could

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Speaker 1: have that argument. Like That's why from day one, I

576
00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:25,680
Speaker 1: was thinking, what an opportunity to bridge, right, I mean,

577
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Speaker 1: you trade Aaron Rodgers, you can get anything you want

578
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Speaker 1: and you're not a cap hell and you can win

579
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Speaker 1: from one generation to the next. Now they're going for it,

580
00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:37,800
Speaker 1: and then every team seems to be doing this right.

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Speaker 1: It's an arms race. Like you said, you're selling your

582
00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:43,480
Speaker 1: soul in some cases if you're the Cleveland Browns. But hey,

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Speaker 1: you've got Aaron Rodgers. You know, he's an MVP quarterback,

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Speaker 1: you know, the super Bowl caliber quarterback. Who cares what

585
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Speaker 1: happens when he walks away. We're going for super Bowl.

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00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:54,720
Speaker 1: You know. I'm not sure if that's the right way

587
00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:56,760
Speaker 1: to operate, but you look at his deal, this could

588
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Speaker 1: be it. And the pressure did not just you know,

589
00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:03,239
Speaker 1: win a division, get to the bow, depression to win

590
00:34:03,320 --> 00:34:05,640
Speaker 1: the Super Bowls about aside. It's ever been a Green Bay.

591
00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:10,400
Speaker 1: So you visited the Steelers. The Steelers and the Packers

592
00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:15,320
Speaker 1: to me are very similar and that they occasionally dabble

593
00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:20,400
Speaker 1: in free agency, but it's mostly continuity, draft and develop,

594
00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:23,400
Speaker 1: and they both had a Hall of Fame level quarterback

595
00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:27,120
Speaker 1: for the last fifteen years. Big Ben's gone Aaron Rodgers now.

596
00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:32,920
Speaker 1: And when you look at the Steelers and the Packers,

597
00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:36,560
Speaker 1: let's be honest, over the last seven eight years, massively

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00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:41,120
Speaker 1: disappointing in the postseason for gold standard organizations, they're very

599
00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:45,880
Speaker 1: very similar. One AFC, one NFC. The quarterback situation's interesting.

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Speaker 1: So their star leaves and this is what green Bay

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Speaker 1: could be facing in a year or two. The market

602
00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:56,640
Speaker 1: is what the market is. Miss Trubisky's a bridge, Kenny

603
00:34:56,680 --> 00:34:59,879
Speaker 1: Pickets the young guy. So the Packers in a year

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00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:02,080
Speaker 1: two could be looking at a bridge because you just

605
00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:04,760
Speaker 1: don't always get First of all, you have to hope

606
00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:07,359
Speaker 1: the market delivers you a star. It did this year

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00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:09,920
Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson. Green Bay's not going to go out and

608
00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:13,000
Speaker 1: get to Shaun Watson. Pittsburgh wouldn't be comfortable with his

609
00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:15,759
Speaker 1: character issues, right. Cleveland will do what Cleveland will do

610
00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:18,839
Speaker 1: because they're so desperate. What is your sense on what

611
00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:21,080
Speaker 1: the Steelers are I look at this division now, Tyler

612
00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:25,840
Speaker 1: Burrows legit, Watson's a star, Lamar's a star. I'm like

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Speaker 1: they have easily the fourth best quarterback in a division

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Speaker 1: that generally means third or fourth place, does it not?

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Speaker 1: You know, I was just at the Steelers training camp

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Speaker 1: in Latrow. First day. They were in pads, and it's

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Speaker 1: just different, Watson. The Steelers practice. I mean, you've gotten

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Speaker 1: Mike Tomlin over and that backs on linebacker one on

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Speaker 1: one drill where you know, the collisions are about as

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Speaker 1: violent as you're going to see in the NFL. The

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Speaker 1: actually tackle at Steelers practice, which is like forbidden in

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Speaker 1: other cities. It's different. It's always been that way. They've

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Speaker 1: always tried to create, like the self sustaining ecosystem of

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00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:06,200
Speaker 1: just toughness of you. You've got to kind of get

625
00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:08,319
Speaker 1: through this attrition if you're going to start on our

626
00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:11,680
Speaker 1: defense in Pittsburgh. And I feel like it's all of

627
00:36:11,719 --> 00:36:13,759
Speaker 1: that all over again. I mean, I don't know if

628
00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:16,520
Speaker 1: a pass was completed over twelve thirteen yards at the

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Speaker 1: practice I was at, it was a lot of run game,

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Speaker 1: a lot of checkdowns, a lot of tip balls, a

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Speaker 1: lot of pressure. A lot of fans were there might

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Speaker 1: not have been that visually pleasing for them. I was

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Speaker 1: kind of joking about this with like Cam Hayward after practice.

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Speaker 1: He's like, yeah, I don't know how much of the

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00:36:31,719 --> 00:36:34,200
Speaker 1: fans like our practices, but this is how we win.

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Speaker 1: Like we want to win that thirteen ten game for

637
00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:39,480
Speaker 1: better or worse. They have done it in the past,

638
00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:42,080
Speaker 1: and if their defense can elevate and be better than

639
00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:45,240
Speaker 1: they were last year, you gotta think they're better at quarterback,

640
00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:47,319
Speaker 1: right And it looked Trubisky has been up and down

641
00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:50,600
Speaker 1: Kenny Took, it's a rookie, but Ben was in a

642
00:36:50,680 --> 00:36:53,600
Speaker 1: rough place. Ben Roethlisberger was an absolute shell of himself

643
00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:55,880
Speaker 1: by the end. I gotta think they're better at quarterback.

644
00:36:55,920 --> 00:36:58,480
Speaker 1: And I'm not staying there as a Super Bowl contender,

645
00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:01,280
Speaker 1: but you know they're always gonna be with Mike Tomay.

646
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Speaker 1: They're always going to be knocking at the door. Yeah. See,

647
00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:06,400
Speaker 1: I see the opposite. I think Big Ben lad believe

648
00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:09,160
Speaker 1: it or not, the NFL and fourth quarter comebacks, and

649
00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:13,360
Speaker 1: so Trubisky went from an offensive coach in Matt Nagee

650
00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:16,200
Speaker 1: to a defensive coach. And I don't think the Steelers

651
00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:19,960
Speaker 1: have an elite offensive coordinator. They've struggled with that coaching position,

652
00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:23,919
Speaker 1: and so I think Matt Naggi may not be your guy.

653
00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:27,400
Speaker 1: But I think he really actually from the Andy Reid system,

654
00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:29,920
Speaker 1: got more to Mitch Trubisky than he really is. I mean,

655
00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:32,880
Speaker 1: let's be honest. The market for miss Trubisky seven million dollars.

656
00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:37,120
Speaker 1: I mean that is like a number three corner. I

657
00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:40,279
Speaker 1: think in that system, with a shaky old line, they're

658
00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:43,560
Speaker 1: going to be a pop gun offense. You pointed it out.

659
00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:46,200
Speaker 1: You never saw a ball thrown down the field. And

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00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:48,880
Speaker 1: I just think when you play Burrow twice and those weapons,

661
00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:51,960
Speaker 1: and Lamar twice and Deshaun and those weapons twice, he

662
00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:56,520
Speaker 1: has a Mari Cooper. Now do you know? I could

663
00:37:56,560 --> 00:37:59,160
Speaker 1: be wrong on this, but since they were in the

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl and lost Green Bay, the Steelers have beaten

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Speaker 1: one starting quarterback in the playoff game. That's with Ben.

666
00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:13,040
Speaker 1: I like Tomlin, I respect him. I think the practice

667
00:38:13,080 --> 00:38:18,040
Speaker 1: you saw, that's what they are. Let's pivot to Buffalo.

668
00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:22,840
Speaker 1: You were at their camp. See, I think Buffalo is

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00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:25,960
Speaker 1: the Steelers fifteen years ago and Big Ben was young,

670
00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:33,080
Speaker 1: whereas playmakers on the outside, good offensive line, not dominant,

671
00:38:33,120 --> 00:38:36,319
Speaker 1: but a quarterback that really can go off script make

672
00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:40,560
Speaker 1: big plays. A little raw like Big Ben. Sometimes you

673
00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:43,719
Speaker 1: question his judgment I thought I thought Buffalo was the

674
00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:46,239
Speaker 1: best team in the league last year. I think they're

675
00:38:46,239 --> 00:38:48,840
Speaker 1: the best team in the league. So go from the

676
00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:52,400
Speaker 1: Steelers to the Bills and the vibe and what esthetically

677
00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:57,279
Speaker 1: you saw. Compare the two. Yeah, it's totally different. I

678
00:38:57,320 --> 00:39:01,560
Speaker 1: mean Josh Hallen, I mean McKenzie and the slot. And

679
00:39:02,080 --> 00:39:04,160
Speaker 1: I'll admit I do a show with him at my website.

680
00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:06,600
Speaker 1: Go along, and you know, it was frustrating for him

681
00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:09,440
Speaker 1: last year to barely play, but man, he looks incredible

682
00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:12,840
Speaker 1: out there. Josh Allen has been going to him practice

683
00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:15,480
Speaker 1: in practice out I mean, this is the longest tenured

684
00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:17,400
Speaker 1: receiver on the team, believe it or not. He was

685
00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:20,240
Speaker 1: there for Josh Allen's rookie season. So there's another weapon

686
00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:23,680
Speaker 1: for you. Diggs's digs, Gabriel Davis obviously we saw what

687
00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:26,279
Speaker 1: he did against Kansas City. Dawson Knox could be a

688
00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:29,440
Speaker 1: top ten tight end. They've got a lot of weapons,

689
00:39:29,480 --> 00:39:31,800
Speaker 1: They've got a lot of options. It's just funny watching

690
00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:34,759
Speaker 1: their practice though, and I just keep thinking, none of

691
00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:37,400
Speaker 1: this matters. You know, nothing that happens in August manners

692
00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:42,440
Speaker 1: for Buffalo or September or October or November, you know,

693
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Speaker 1: the last three years they've been right there, they've been

694
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Speaker 1: in the playoffs, especially the last two, with an offense

695
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Speaker 1: worthy of winning it all, and they have melted down.

696
00:39:52,560 --> 00:39:55,399
Speaker 1: I think the head coach specifically. You know, two years

697
00:39:55,440 --> 00:39:57,600
Speaker 1: ago it was the chip shot field goals against the

698
00:39:57,680 --> 00:39:59,839
Speaker 1: Chiefs that are gonna get you nothing. You know, they're

699
00:39:59,840 --> 00:40:02,279
Speaker 1: not I win the game anyways in the AFC Championship game,

700
00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:05,600
Speaker 1: but he did them no favors Sean McDermott. And then

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00:40:05,719 --> 00:40:08,960
Speaker 1: last year obviously with thirteen seconds talking to players, coaches,

702
00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:11,960
Speaker 1: people in and around the team. Not a lot of

703
00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:14,680
Speaker 1: accountability publicly obviously, but I think not a lot of

704
00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:18,799
Speaker 1: accountability internally, at least in the forty eight hours after

705
00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:21,440
Speaker 1: that game. That left a lot to be desired. You're

706
00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:24,120
Speaker 1: talking about a detail oriented coach column. I mean, May June,

707
00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:26,480
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter what time of year. This guy has

708
00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:29,359
Speaker 1: cleansed the building, and it needed to be cleansed. After

709
00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:32,120
Speaker 1: Rex Ryan, it was an absolute cluster, you know what

710
00:40:32,600 --> 00:40:36,640
Speaker 1: with Rex Ryan and he accomplished that. But look four

711
00:40:36,719 --> 00:40:40,040
Speaker 1: or five years into this, you gotta think about the

712
00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:42,439
Speaker 1: lens of Josh Allen. You think about this team through

713
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Speaker 1: Josh Allen and just empowering him in every possible way

714
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Speaker 1: and delivering in that moment because they wasted an all

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Speaker 1: time heater last year. I mean, Josh Allen's he's winning

716
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Speaker 1: at home in the AFC Championship game, He's winning that

717
00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:56,920
Speaker 1: Super Bowl and you didn't get to those games because

718
00:40:56,920 --> 00:40:58,919
Speaker 1: of your head coach. So I you know, I'm watching

719
00:40:58,960 --> 00:41:01,200
Speaker 1: their training camp. I'm thinking this is fun. You know,

720
00:41:01,239 --> 00:41:04,640
Speaker 1: they're aesthetically pleasing, like you said, But nothing's gonna man

721
00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:08,120
Speaker 1: until January. Yeah, I mean, we have something happening in

722
00:41:08,160 --> 00:41:11,200
Speaker 1: this league. And I think the Dolphins hit on it

723
00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:16,279
Speaker 1: that the rules now favor offense, and the Dolphins said,

724
00:41:16,280 --> 00:41:19,160
Speaker 1: we're pivoting from defense to offense as a franchise. We're

725
00:41:19,160 --> 00:41:22,200
Speaker 1: gonna spend all our money in offense. The Steelers, by

726
00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:25,480
Speaker 1: the way, our last and offensive spending. And I think

727
00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:27,560
Speaker 1: when you have a defensive coach in the building. Mike

728
00:41:27,680 --> 00:41:30,399
Speaker 1: Zimmer couldn't get along with Kirk Cousins, Pete, Carol Russell,

729
00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:33,720
Speaker 1: Wolfson couldn't get along Belichick, Brady and Nan couldn't get along.

730
00:41:34,360 --> 00:41:38,200
Speaker 1: Vic Fangio struggled with his quarterbacks that Brian Flores in

731
00:41:38,280 --> 00:41:44,640
Speaker 1: Tua reportedly awful, relationship awful. So we haven't the NFL

732
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Speaker 1: currently tightler. We have one ascending defensive coach, Sean McDermott,

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Speaker 1: And I think to your point, the pressures on you know,

734
00:41:55,440 --> 00:41:59,080
Speaker 1: it's one of those things where sometimes there's cultural changes

735
00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:03,319
Speaker 1: in sports, sometimes there's rule changes. Like you know, you

736
00:42:03,400 --> 00:42:05,880
Speaker 1: and I have watched the NBA become a shooters league.

737
00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:08,799
Speaker 1: There are no back to the basket centers anymore. It's

738
00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:11,440
Speaker 1: like a wasted position. So I think what's happening in

739
00:42:11,480 --> 00:42:14,040
Speaker 1: the NFL is just look at college football. You can

740
00:42:14,040 --> 00:42:18,960
Speaker 1: still win with a defensive coach. McDermott's it, Belichick's not winning,

741
00:42:19,640 --> 00:42:23,040
Speaker 1: Pete Carroll's not winning. Zimmer got fired, Flores got fired.

742
00:42:23,800 --> 00:42:27,920
Speaker 1: I do you think what you're saying about McDermott is

743
00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:33,920
Speaker 1: I think true. But Buffalo has been so starved for success.

744
00:42:34,200 --> 00:42:36,440
Speaker 1: Did they get it or does he still have that

745
00:42:36,520 --> 00:42:40,839
Speaker 1: honeymoon halo around him? That's the question. I mean, I've

746
00:42:40,840 --> 00:42:42,680
Speaker 1: tried to gauge that with fans. I think it's kind

747
00:42:42,719 --> 00:42:45,240
Speaker 1: of split down the middle between people who say, look,

748
00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:48,959
Speaker 1: this team was so bad for so long, seventeen years,

749
00:42:49,040 --> 00:42:52,520
Speaker 1: no playoffs, build the statutes right now, for Sean McDermott.

750
00:42:52,840 --> 00:42:55,480
Speaker 1: And then there are people who know dare to be different,

751
00:42:55,480 --> 00:42:58,720
Speaker 1: they're to be better. Like no, Josh Allen is special.

752
00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:00,880
Speaker 1: Josh Allen is an MVP in it. There's weapons all

753
00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:02,840
Speaker 1: over the place. Brandon bead has done a hell of

754
00:43:02,840 --> 00:43:06,439
Speaker 1: a job bringing in talent. Get over the hump, right,

755
00:43:06,520 --> 00:43:10,160
Speaker 1: and I he there's there's a lot of layers to

756
00:43:10,200 --> 00:43:11,960
Speaker 1: a head, coach, you just laid it out beautifully there.

757
00:43:11,960 --> 00:43:15,719
Speaker 1: I mean, Sean McDermott deserves so much credit for I

758
00:43:15,760 --> 00:43:18,120
Speaker 1: hate to use the word culture, but there is something

759
00:43:18,160 --> 00:43:21,520
Speaker 1: to it. The culture was bad, the cultures and how

760
00:43:21,640 --> 00:43:24,640
Speaker 1: good players are showing up to time for meetings. That

761
00:43:24,760 --> 00:43:27,960
Speaker 1: was not the casement Rex Ryant, whose truck and Bill's colors,

762
00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:29,799
Speaker 1: by the way, left a little too early from one

763
00:43:29,840 --> 00:43:33,560
Speaker 1: Bill's drive in twenty fifteen and sixteen McDermot was sleeping

764
00:43:33,560 --> 00:43:37,680
Speaker 1: at the office. All right, all that stuff, but I mean, gosh,

765
00:43:38,719 --> 00:43:42,439
Speaker 1: you you have to be able to just empower your

766
00:43:42,440 --> 00:43:47,600
Speaker 1: best players and take advantage of this opportunity. Because Josh

767
00:43:47,640 --> 00:43:50,600
Speaker 1: Allen's contract kicks in next year, right right, it's gonna

768
00:43:50,600 --> 00:43:54,239
Speaker 1: get awfully difficult to keep anybody around him when that

769
00:43:54,360 --> 00:43:57,319
Speaker 1: kicks in, and you gotta keep drafting better. You gotta

770
00:43:57,360 --> 00:43:59,319
Speaker 1: keep your foot to the medal, to the metal, and

771
00:43:59,719 --> 00:44:02,240
Speaker 1: we we haven't seen him deliver in the big moment.

772
00:44:02,360 --> 00:44:04,680
Speaker 1: So you know, I'm not saying that they need the

773
00:44:04,760 --> 00:44:07,800
Speaker 1: fire selling McDermott right now. Obviously not. But is he

774
00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:11,800
Speaker 1: Marty Schottenheimer? They fall short again in the playoffs, maybe

775
00:44:12,200 --> 00:44:15,440
Speaker 1: right at some point you have to challenge yourself to

776
00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:17,719
Speaker 1: get better if you do believe Josh Allen is this

777
00:44:17,840 --> 00:44:20,560
Speaker 1: transcendent player. So we'll see if it gets to that point.

778
00:44:25,160 --> 00:44:29,319
Speaker 1: So AFC North odds, not only are the Steelers picked

779
00:44:29,360 --> 00:44:31,839
Speaker 1: for fourth, Vegas doesn't buy any of it at they're

780
00:44:31,880 --> 00:44:35,920
Speaker 1: plus nine to fifty, whereas Browns or third at plus

781
00:44:35,960 --> 00:44:41,800
Speaker 1: three hundred. So the Steelers are considered. And I agree

782
00:44:41,840 --> 00:44:45,239
Speaker 1: with this now if Deshaun Watson plays at all. I

783
00:44:45,320 --> 00:44:49,160
Speaker 1: said this the other day that as the league is

784
00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:52,080
Speaker 1: pivoting to offense, the Steelers are last in the NFL

785
00:44:52,120 --> 00:44:58,360
Speaker 1: and offensive spending. Defensive coaches they're best friends in the business,

786
00:44:59,120 --> 00:45:04,120
Speaker 1: are often de defensive coaches. They've made several missteps hiring

787
00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:08,720
Speaker 1: offensive coordinators. They can't get it right on their offensive line,

788
00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:12,480
Speaker 1: and I worry about. There are things I like about

789
00:45:12,600 --> 00:45:16,400
Speaker 1: Mike Tomlin, but I got Lamar, I got Burrow, I

790
00:45:16,480 --> 00:45:20,279
Speaker 1: got potentially to Sean Trubisky is not only fourth, he

791
00:45:20,400 --> 00:45:24,640
Speaker 1: is a deep fourth. I think we're as much as

792
00:45:24,640 --> 00:45:27,279
Speaker 1: I criticize Ben. He led the NFL and fourth quarter

793
00:45:27,360 --> 00:45:32,319
Speaker 1: comebacks last year. This team has an offensive problem, and

794
00:45:32,360 --> 00:45:35,360
Speaker 1: I think a lot of it stems from a defensive

795
00:45:35,440 --> 00:45:40,200
Speaker 1: leaning head coach. Am I nuts, well, you're very anti

796
00:45:41,320 --> 00:45:49,120
Speaker 1: defensive head coaches. Clearly that's the that's what you're going

797
00:45:49,160 --> 00:45:53,440
Speaker 1: to pick on today. Totally get it. But then what

798
00:45:53,560 --> 00:45:58,200
Speaker 1: do you say about John Harbaugh? Right, because he is

799
00:45:58,560 --> 00:46:01,879
Speaker 1: a defensive coach. That team is the favorite to win

800
00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:05,920
Speaker 1: the division, and it's hard to argue against it because

801
00:46:06,160 --> 00:46:08,879
Speaker 1: you got Lamar Jackson, who a lot of people say

802
00:46:09,640 --> 00:46:12,520
Speaker 1: did regress a little bit last year and there are

803
00:46:12,560 --> 00:46:15,319
Speaker 1: starting to be some flaws in his game. I'm not

804
00:46:15,360 --> 00:46:17,880
Speaker 1: criticizing the guy. I'm not saying I don't want him

805
00:46:17,920 --> 00:46:20,520
Speaker 1: on my team. I would definitely want him. I'm just

806
00:46:20,560 --> 00:46:24,160
Speaker 1: saying the performance wasn't where it had been in the past, right,

807
00:46:24,400 --> 00:46:28,239
Speaker 1: and last year their defense was in shambles as far

808
00:46:28,280 --> 00:46:31,480
Speaker 1: as injuries, and this was still a team that midway

809
00:46:31,520 --> 00:46:33,520
Speaker 1: through the year was one of the top seeds in

810
00:46:33,560 --> 00:46:37,640
Speaker 1: the AFC, so it's hard to go against John Harbaugh

811
00:46:37,680 --> 00:46:40,920
Speaker 1: and the Ravens in that division. I do think that

812
00:46:41,400 --> 00:46:45,200
Speaker 1: what's interesting is Joe Burrow. Clearly something happened to him

813
00:46:45,200 --> 00:46:47,440
Speaker 1: in the Super Bowl when someone rolled up on his

814
00:46:47,520 --> 00:46:49,520
Speaker 1: knee and he was injured in the second half, and

815
00:46:49,560 --> 00:46:52,120
Speaker 1: he wasn't the same player, and now he's been limited

816
00:46:52,239 --> 00:46:55,239
Speaker 1: in training camp this year because of different illnesses. So

817
00:46:55,640 --> 00:46:57,759
Speaker 1: I'm not going to discount Joe Burrow, who's obviously to

818
00:46:57,800 --> 00:47:00,359
Speaker 1: me one of the top five six quarterbacks in the league.

819
00:47:01,400 --> 00:47:04,480
Speaker 1: I don't think Zach Taylor is that great of a coach,

820
00:47:04,800 --> 00:47:07,960
Speaker 1: and I think Joe Burrow made him look much much

821
00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:10,560
Speaker 1: better than he has a little bit like Aaron Rodgers

822
00:47:10,560 --> 00:47:13,960
Speaker 1: for years made Mike McCarthy look like a genius until

823
00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:18,960
Speaker 1: it became untenable. The Steelers to me are interesting now.

824
00:47:19,280 --> 00:47:22,719
Speaker 1: Their defense is amazing. Mike Tomlin has proven he can

825
00:47:22,719 --> 00:47:26,040
Speaker 1: get just about anybody to the playoffs. Don't forget the

826
00:47:26,120 --> 00:47:31,040
Speaker 1: Duck Hodges era. And to me, it's not about probably

827
00:47:31,080 --> 00:47:34,120
Speaker 1: taking the Steelers to win the division, but I would

828
00:47:34,160 --> 00:47:37,960
Speaker 1: take the Steelers over seven and a half wins. The

829
00:47:38,040 --> 00:47:41,000
Speaker 1: Steelers have been have had seven and a half wins

830
00:47:41,040 --> 00:47:45,600
Speaker 1: in a season as their benchmark according to bookmakers four

831
00:47:45,640 --> 00:47:49,959
Speaker 1: times since nineteen ninety two. They've crushed it every single time,

832
00:47:50,320 --> 00:47:52,759
Speaker 1: and the last time with two thousand and four, they

833
00:47:52,840 --> 00:47:56,040
Speaker 1: went fifteen o one with Big Ben. Obviously, Mitch Trubisky

834
00:47:56,160 --> 00:47:59,280
Speaker 1: and Kenny Pickett are not Big Ben at two thousand

835
00:47:59,280 --> 00:48:02,160
Speaker 1: and four as a rook but I do think with

836
00:48:02,200 --> 00:48:05,319
Speaker 1: Mike Tomlin and a defense like this, they're being undervalued

837
00:48:05,320 --> 00:48:07,360
Speaker 1: at seven and a half, especially in a division that

838
00:48:07,520 --> 00:48:10,200
Speaker 1: has a defending AFC champion and a team in the

839
00:48:10,280 --> 00:48:15,719
Speaker 1: Ravens that people think is ascended. Yeah, so I like

840
00:48:15,800 --> 00:48:18,240
Speaker 1: Trubisky as a bridge quarterback. I think he's gonna stink,

841
00:48:18,400 --> 00:48:22,880
Speaker 1: but well, look right literally this second, this second, Colin

842
00:48:23,560 --> 00:48:27,160
Speaker 1: Mitch Trubisky is trending on Twitter for how badly he's

843
00:48:27,200 --> 00:48:32,560
Speaker 1: playing in training camp, right, I mean, he's listen, he

844
00:48:32,640 --> 00:48:36,040
Speaker 1: had Andy Reid's offense with Matt Naggie in a division

845
00:48:36,160 --> 00:48:38,520
Speaker 1: that there's a lot of wins there outside of going

846
00:48:38,560 --> 00:48:43,279
Speaker 1: to Lambeau and listen, they just I have people that

847
00:48:43,360 --> 00:48:45,680
Speaker 1: I know that cover the Bears and people I respect

848
00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:49,120
Speaker 1: he was driving Naggie crazy. He can't throw the ball

849
00:48:49,160 --> 00:48:52,080
Speaker 1: down the field. I remember being on a vacation in Hawaii.

850
00:48:52,640 --> 00:48:55,160
Speaker 1: I've told this story. When Trubisky's name came up, Greg

851
00:48:55,200 --> 00:48:57,080
Speaker 1: co Sell said he's going to get drafted first round.

852
00:48:57,600 --> 00:49:00,279
Speaker 1: So I took like three hours in the afternoon to

853
00:49:00,280 --> 00:49:04,040
Speaker 1: watch Mitch Rubisky play like Florida State, and I called

854
00:49:04,239 --> 00:49:06,880
Speaker 1: Greg Cosell and I'm like, I don't get it. I

855
00:49:06,960 --> 00:49:09,240
Speaker 1: don't I don't even understand how that's a first round quarterback.

856
00:49:09,280 --> 00:49:12,640
Speaker 1: His ball dies at twenty yards. He's a front legs rollers.

857
00:49:13,200 --> 00:49:17,040
Speaker 1: That's not a franchise quarterback. I think he's a great

858
00:49:17,120 --> 00:49:20,120
Speaker 1: bridge and maybe the league's best backup. I think he's

859
00:49:20,120 --> 00:49:22,040
Speaker 1: gonna stink. I think you're going to see it early.

860
00:49:22,719 --> 00:49:26,200
Speaker 1: You know, the Lamar critics crack me up. First year,

861
00:49:26,520 --> 00:49:29,160
Speaker 1: he starts late, goes six and one. Next year, wins

862
00:49:29,160 --> 00:49:32,359
Speaker 1: the MVP. Next year wins a playoff game. Last year

863
00:49:32,400 --> 00:49:35,080
Speaker 1: has the number one seed and gets hurt. Jesus people.

864
00:49:35,120 --> 00:49:37,160
Speaker 1: He wins seventy six percent of the games he starts.

865
00:49:37,360 --> 00:49:40,000
Speaker 1: I don't care esthetically what it looks like. You win

866
00:49:40,040 --> 00:49:42,200
Speaker 1: seventy six percent of the games. I'm a coach driver

867
00:49:42,239 --> 00:49:44,279
Speaker 1: to the arena. I can win the game, that's all.

868
00:49:44,360 --> 00:49:47,040
Speaker 1: I don't care about Kyler Murray's wark habits. All I

869
00:49:47,120 --> 00:49:49,600
Speaker 1: know is when he's my quarterback, I could beat the

870
00:49:49,680 --> 00:49:53,640
Speaker 1: Rams in La. I absolutely could. I think we'd spend

871
00:49:54,120 --> 00:50:00,760
Speaker 1: so much time getting past winning Lamar wins. I like winning.

872
00:50:00,960 --> 00:50:03,839
Speaker 1: I don't care what it looks like through that entire rant.

873
00:50:03,880 --> 00:50:06,480
Speaker 1: You know what my takeaway is not that you notice

874
00:50:06,560 --> 00:50:08,799
Speaker 1: Mitch Trubisky can throw the ball more than twenty yards

875
00:50:08,880 --> 00:50:10,880
Speaker 1: downfield that he throws off his front foot. He's a

876
00:50:10,880 --> 00:50:15,480
Speaker 1: front foot thrower. I'm on vacation and I decide to

877
00:50:15,520 --> 00:50:20,400
Speaker 1: take three hours to watch Mitch Truebisky play against Florida State.

878
00:50:20,880 --> 00:50:24,359
Speaker 1: And I believe you were a vacation a month ago.

879
00:50:25,680 --> 00:50:28,640
Speaker 1: I don't know. You went Saint Bart's Abisa, Barbados, some

880
00:50:28,960 --> 00:50:35,160
Speaker 1: fantastic tropical island. Every freaking day there was an Instagram

881
00:50:35,280 --> 00:50:40,040
Speaker 1: reel or something from Cowherd about what was going on

882
00:50:40,120 --> 00:50:44,400
Speaker 1: in the world. I just got back from vacation on Monday.

883
00:50:44,640 --> 00:50:46,400
Speaker 1: I was away for two weeks. I was in Italy.

884
00:50:47,120 --> 00:50:49,760
Speaker 1: I did not check slack, I did not check email.

885
00:50:50,040 --> 00:50:52,600
Speaker 1: I texted with four people. You were one of them,

886
00:50:52,600 --> 00:50:56,360
Speaker 1: by the way, that was it. Yeah, that is the

887
00:50:56,360 --> 00:50:59,560
Speaker 1: difference between you and me. That is why you are

888
00:51:00,360 --> 00:51:05,760
Speaker 1: a brilliant multi media mogul. Who's who's on the airward swing?

889
00:51:06,760 --> 00:51:08,919
Speaker 1: And I'm a guy I guess like a twenty minute

890
00:51:08,960 --> 00:51:14,400
Speaker 1: segment once a week. That's it, all right? Be that

891
00:51:14,560 --> 00:51:16,760
Speaker 1: as it may. I trust you on betting. So here's

892
00:51:16,760 --> 00:51:19,279
Speaker 1: another one, AFC West, because I want to talk to

893
00:51:19,280 --> 00:51:24,279
Speaker 1: AFC South. It bores me. AFC West. Listen. I know

894
00:51:25,760 --> 00:51:28,440
Speaker 1: a lot of people inside the Chargers, including the Spanos family,

895
00:51:29,239 --> 00:51:33,560
Speaker 1: and they are they are picked to be second in

896
00:51:33,600 --> 00:51:39,160
Speaker 1: this division, and you loved him last year. So sometimes

897
00:51:39,160 --> 00:51:43,160
Speaker 1: the media does this because the media wants to be

898
00:51:43,200 --> 00:51:46,080
Speaker 1: thought of as smart. You know, they did a study

899
00:51:46,280 --> 00:51:48,399
Speaker 1: a couple of years ago on the media and now

900
00:51:48,400 --> 00:51:52,640
Speaker 1: they compared to the average the public, they drink more

901
00:51:52,800 --> 00:51:55,759
Speaker 1: than the public, and they think higher of themselves than

902
00:51:55,800 --> 00:52:01,560
Speaker 1: the public. And so the Chargers because they have a

903
00:52:01,640 --> 00:52:04,479
Speaker 1: coach who I think's a smart guy. But I don't

904
00:52:04,480 --> 00:52:06,680
Speaker 1: necessarily know if he's a good football coach. I just

905
00:52:06,719 --> 00:52:10,080
Speaker 1: think he's smart. But the media likes smart, and so

906
00:52:10,239 --> 00:52:14,400
Speaker 1: everybody's in the Brandon Stalely and I watched them go

907
00:52:14,520 --> 00:52:16,319
Speaker 1: for it like on fourth and seven deep in their

908
00:52:16,320 --> 00:52:19,000
Speaker 1: own territory, and I'm like, I don't care what analytics say.

909
00:52:19,560 --> 00:52:21,880
Speaker 1: If you'd have gotten the first down, you needed five

910
00:52:21,960 --> 00:52:25,680
Speaker 1: more to get in field goal range risk reward. That

911
00:52:25,719 --> 00:52:29,640
Speaker 1: wasn't smart. I trust Jimmy Johnson. He said that wasn't smart.

912
00:52:30,280 --> 00:52:33,319
Speaker 1: So I don't know if Brandon Staley is a good

913
00:52:33,320 --> 00:52:37,280
Speaker 1: football coach. I know he's bright, and I know analytically

914
00:52:37,480 --> 00:52:39,520
Speaker 1: people love him because he's a goal for it guy.

915
00:52:40,120 --> 00:52:42,600
Speaker 1: I think we're giving them a lot more credit than

916
00:52:42,600 --> 00:52:45,720
Speaker 1: they deserve. I still don't like the middle of their defense.

917
00:52:45,760 --> 00:52:47,800
Speaker 1: I think you can run and take the ball away

918
00:52:47,800 --> 00:52:53,120
Speaker 1: from Justin Herbert. That is a great analysis of the Chargers,

919
00:52:53,560 --> 00:52:57,279
Speaker 1: and I am one of those people who has been

920
00:52:57,360 --> 00:53:01,080
Speaker 1: high on the Chargers in spite of Brandon Staley, to

921
00:53:01,160 --> 00:53:04,640
Speaker 1: be honest, because I truly believed in a lot of

922
00:53:04,680 --> 00:53:07,759
Speaker 1: what Justin Herbert has been able to do in pressure situations.

923
00:53:08,200 --> 00:53:12,040
Speaker 1: I like their receiving corps, and honestly, I thought that

924
00:53:12,320 --> 00:53:14,799
Speaker 1: Derwin James, when he's healthy or when he's not in

925
00:53:14,800 --> 00:53:18,759
Speaker 1: a contract dispute, can truly be a top two or

926
00:53:18,880 --> 00:53:24,279
Speaker 1: three defensive safety in the defensive backfield, and they've got

927
00:53:24,320 --> 00:53:27,719
Speaker 1: a tremendous pass rush and they really did a great

928
00:53:27,760 --> 00:53:29,920
Speaker 1: job building their offensive line last year. So to me,

929
00:53:29,960 --> 00:53:32,919
Speaker 1: it's about the weapons that are on the field and

930
00:53:33,120 --> 00:53:37,760
Speaker 1: overcoming sometimes decision making that Brandon Staley makes that feels

931
00:53:37,800 --> 00:53:41,200
Speaker 1: like he's trying to prove game theory more than he's

932
00:53:41,200 --> 00:53:43,520
Speaker 1: actually trying to win the game that's in front of him, right,

933
00:53:43,800 --> 00:53:47,600
Speaker 1: And there is a philosophy here that I truly believe in.

934
00:53:47,920 --> 00:53:51,319
Speaker 1: There's a difference between deciding you're going to stick to

935
00:53:51,520 --> 00:53:55,680
Speaker 1: a discipline no matter what the circumstances and playing the

936
00:53:55,719 --> 00:53:58,439
Speaker 1: situation that's in front of you. And I don't know

937
00:53:58,480 --> 00:54:00,520
Speaker 1: that he's always playing the situation that's in front of them,

938
00:54:00,560 --> 00:54:02,880
Speaker 1: as evidenced by what you just said as evidence in

939
00:54:02,920 --> 00:54:04,799
Speaker 1: games that we saw last year, especially in that game

940
00:54:04,840 --> 00:54:10,400
Speaker 1: against the Chiefs, that's said, that's said, are the Raiders

941
00:54:10,520 --> 00:54:14,160
Speaker 1: good enough now? Are we enough of a believer in

942
00:54:14,840 --> 00:54:18,239
Speaker 1: Derek Carr and Davante Adams as a duo? Are we

943
00:54:18,360 --> 00:54:21,640
Speaker 1: enough of believering with Josh mcdonne's can do with the

944
00:54:21,680 --> 00:54:24,680
Speaker 1: rest of that team? Do we think Russell Wilson, even

945
00:54:24,719 --> 00:54:27,680
Speaker 1: though he's still young as an older quarterback with a

946
00:54:27,719 --> 00:54:29,960
Speaker 1: team that we don't know what we're going to get

947
00:54:30,000 --> 00:54:32,680
Speaker 1: out of them, yet can be better than a team

948
00:54:32,680 --> 00:54:35,360
Speaker 1: that's had a couple of years to Gael, or better

949
00:54:35,400 --> 00:54:37,600
Speaker 1: than a team that has been the dominant team in

950
00:54:37,640 --> 00:54:41,120
Speaker 1: the AFC West. So you need to tell me if

951
00:54:41,120 --> 00:54:44,320
Speaker 1: you don't like the Chargers and you don't like the Chiefs,

952
00:54:44,440 --> 00:54:46,799
Speaker 1: because that's going to be Chalky. Are you telling me

953
00:54:46,840 --> 00:54:50,960
Speaker 1: you like the Broncos? Are you like the Raiders? Yep? Okay,

954
00:54:51,040 --> 00:54:53,680
Speaker 1: I like the Bronchos. I like them too. I think

955
00:54:53,719 --> 00:54:58,960
Speaker 1: they have the best I think they have a really

956
00:54:59,040 --> 00:55:03,239
Speaker 1: good combination of a smart young coach, a fantastic quarterback,

957
00:55:03,440 --> 00:55:09,440
Speaker 1: an underrated general manager, excellent corners, elite pass rushers. I

958
00:55:09,440 --> 00:55:11,359
Speaker 1: mean they went out, people, forget this. They went out.

959
00:55:11,560 --> 00:55:15,799
Speaker 1: They had Bradley Chubb, They added Chris Is it not

960
00:55:15,880 --> 00:55:20,359
Speaker 1: Chris Jones? Is it DJ Jones from Randy Gregory from

961
00:55:20,360 --> 00:55:24,840
Speaker 1: the Cowboys, and then a Niner interior defensive lineman who

962
00:55:25,000 --> 00:55:27,839
Speaker 1: is really well thought of. I think they're suddenly going

963
00:55:27,880 --> 00:55:31,000
Speaker 1: to have a really elite defensive line. I think they

964
00:55:31,040 --> 00:55:36,120
Speaker 1: have a decent offensive line. I think it's a really

965
00:55:36,440 --> 00:55:39,480
Speaker 1: good team and I was seeing Brady and Stafford back

966
00:55:39,520 --> 00:55:43,440
Speaker 1: to back join rosters that simply needed a catalyst, and

967
00:55:43,480 --> 00:55:47,440
Speaker 1: I think that's what Denver needs. They needed an offensive

968
00:55:47,440 --> 00:55:49,360
Speaker 1: minded coach and catalyst. And I think they're going to

969
00:55:49,400 --> 00:55:51,479
Speaker 1: be really good. And people say, well the division's tough,

970
00:55:51,840 --> 00:55:54,760
Speaker 1: Well so is Stafford's division, and they won the Super Bowl,

971
00:55:55,400 --> 00:55:58,120
Speaker 1: so is the SEC. And it doesn't hurt Bama in Georgia.

972
00:55:58,400 --> 00:56:00,479
Speaker 1: I think when you go through a gauntlet of playing

973
00:56:00,520 --> 00:56:03,600
Speaker 1: really good games every other week, it's metal. It tests you.

974
00:56:03,800 --> 00:56:05,680
Speaker 1: And I think Denver is going to come out of

975
00:56:05,680 --> 00:56:09,760
Speaker 1: that division wildcard or winning it, having played in massive

976
00:56:09,880 --> 00:56:12,680
Speaker 1: national TV games and ready to roll in the playoffs,

977
00:56:12,719 --> 00:56:15,040
Speaker 1: are going to feel like a breather. We had Jordan

978
00:56:15,080 --> 00:56:18,680
Speaker 1: Palmer on the Favorites podcast, which is on the Volume

979
00:56:18,840 --> 00:56:24,440
Speaker 1: podcast network, tremendously successful podcast network. Congratulations on that, and

980
00:56:25,120 --> 00:56:31,080
Speaker 1: he was tremendous because he talked about Russell Wilson and

981
00:56:31,760 --> 00:56:35,479
Speaker 1: he said he's kind of corny, He's not the guy

982
00:56:35,520 --> 00:56:38,360
Speaker 1: that he'd want to hang out with, but players know

983
00:56:38,440 --> 00:56:41,720
Speaker 1: what they're getting from him, and more than anything else,

984
00:56:41,880 --> 00:56:45,600
Speaker 1: I asked, I asked Palmer specifically, does rah Ray work?

985
00:56:45,719 --> 00:56:47,920
Speaker 1: I asked Tiki Barber this too in a different podcast.

986
00:56:48,040 --> 00:56:51,680
Speaker 1: Does ra ra work And they're like, no, rad Rod

987
00:56:51,680 --> 00:56:54,120
Speaker 1: doesn't work. You want to know that people are going

988
00:56:54,160 --> 00:56:56,920
Speaker 1: to execute the play that's called. You want to know

989
00:56:56,960 --> 00:56:59,960
Speaker 1: that they're going to be consistent. And the reason Ross

990
00:57:00,040 --> 00:57:03,439
Speaker 1: So Wilson has players believe in him over the course

991
00:57:03,480 --> 00:57:05,960
Speaker 1: of a game. And the reason why he can pull

992
00:57:06,040 --> 00:57:08,520
Speaker 1: rabbits out of the hat as the game gets closer

993
00:57:08,560 --> 00:57:11,440
Speaker 1: to the end and they are ten points down and

994
00:57:11,520 --> 00:57:14,640
Speaker 1: you need Russell Wilson to secure the backdoor cover or

995
00:57:15,120 --> 00:57:17,280
Speaker 1: they are four points down and you need to touchdown

996
00:57:17,320 --> 00:57:19,760
Speaker 1: and win the game, is because they know he's going

997
00:57:19,800 --> 00:57:21,800
Speaker 1: to be consistent and make the same play every time.

998
00:57:22,480 --> 00:57:25,160
Speaker 1: That's why people believe in him. So I subscribe to

999
00:57:25,200 --> 00:57:26,760
Speaker 1: You can say about the Broncos and if it was

1000
00:57:26,800 --> 00:57:28,800
Speaker 1: a choice between the Raiders and the Broncos, that would

1001
00:57:28,800 --> 00:57:32,160
Speaker 1: one hundred percent use the Broncos. Let's slide over to

1002
00:57:32,200 --> 00:57:35,600
Speaker 1: the NFC. The two divisions that really interest me are

1003
00:57:35,640 --> 00:57:37,959
Speaker 1: the NFC North and the NFC West. So let's start

1004
00:57:38,040 --> 00:57:42,680
Speaker 1: NFC North. The vikings are plus three hundred and Chat

1005
00:57:42,720 --> 00:57:46,360
Speaker 1: explained to our audience what that means basically means that

1006
00:57:46,880 --> 00:57:50,880
Speaker 1: it's three to one, So plus three hundred is you

1007
00:57:51,000 --> 00:57:54,600
Speaker 1: bet one hundred dollars on the Vikings to win the

1008
00:57:54,720 --> 00:57:58,960
Speaker 1: NFC North, you get back three hundred dollars. I think

1009
00:57:58,960 --> 00:58:02,240
Speaker 1: it's the best division a bet in the league. So

1010
00:58:02,360 --> 00:58:05,600
Speaker 1: the Packers are one seventy. They have no number one

1011
00:58:05,640 --> 00:58:09,360
Speaker 1: receiver or number two, highly reliant on Aaron Rodgers, who

1012
00:58:09,360 --> 00:58:12,400
Speaker 1: has a history of trust issues, not only with receivers

1013
00:58:12,400 --> 00:58:20,800
Speaker 1: but family with a medical community. That's Aaron's personality. Minnesota

1014
00:58:21,040 --> 00:58:24,400
Speaker 1: gets every go either tough, every go either way game

1015
00:58:24,440 --> 00:58:29,320
Speaker 1: that's tough at home except Buffalo. They have an offensive coach,

1016
00:58:29,440 --> 00:58:33,640
Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins got an extension. He'll feel supported. I think

1017
00:58:33,640 --> 00:58:35,840
Speaker 1: they elevated their defense too. And they had a weird

1018
00:58:36,000 --> 00:58:40,160
Speaker 1: number of close losses last year, and including two overtime losses.

1019
00:58:40,680 --> 00:58:44,240
Speaker 1: So I'm a believer when teams win too many close

1020
00:58:44,280 --> 00:58:48,760
Speaker 1: games and you never get that break the following year,

1021
00:58:49,280 --> 00:58:53,040
Speaker 1: when you lose seemingly every close game, you win him

1022
00:58:53,040 --> 00:58:56,360
Speaker 1: the following year. They won eight games last year. I

1023
00:58:56,400 --> 00:58:58,960
Speaker 1: have them him thirteen this year. And they also get

1024
00:58:58,960 --> 00:59:02,200
Speaker 1: a break because they get Green Bay Week one. So

1025
00:59:02,320 --> 00:59:05,920
Speaker 1: Aaron's going to be working in all these new receivers

1026
00:59:06,000 --> 00:59:11,880
Speaker 1: won't play much in the preseason. Minnesota, meanwhile, has a

1027
00:59:11,960 --> 00:59:14,000
Speaker 1: new head coach, and Green Bay is going to kind

1028
00:59:14,000 --> 00:59:17,680
Speaker 1: of guess on what offense they're going to see. I

1029
00:59:17,720 --> 00:59:21,440
Speaker 1: think they have the element of surprise advantage. Also, Cousins

1030
00:59:21,880 --> 00:59:26,320
Speaker 1: feeling Dalvin the tight ends, they've worked together, they have

1031
00:59:26,360 --> 00:59:28,880
Speaker 1: a new system, they've worked together. Aaron's got a he

1032
00:59:28,920 --> 00:59:31,840
Speaker 1: doesn't know if he has backtr or is tight end

1033
00:59:32,120 --> 00:59:35,880
Speaker 1: both torn acls. He's working in rookie wide receivers. My

1034
00:59:35,920 --> 00:59:38,640
Speaker 1: favorite bet of the year in Week one is Minnesota.

1035
00:59:38,720 --> 00:59:42,400
Speaker 1: I think plus three hundred. I think it's really worth

1036
00:59:42,800 --> 00:59:47,000
Speaker 1: your time. This is an interesting one. The NFC North,

1037
00:59:47,040 --> 00:59:51,320
Speaker 1: to me is fascinating because I think the Vikings are

1038
00:59:51,320 --> 00:59:54,000
Speaker 1: an interesting beat at plus three hundred for all the

1039
00:59:54,040 --> 00:59:56,720
Speaker 1: things that you just said, the flip side, and the

1040
00:59:56,760 --> 00:59:59,560
Speaker 1: reason why I'm not rushing to bet it is because

1041
00:59:59,560 --> 01:00:01,760
Speaker 1: we can say these things about the Vikings every year.

1042
01:00:02,240 --> 01:00:06,400
Speaker 1: The difference being Kevin O'Connell the new head coach, offensive minded.

1043
01:00:06,560 --> 01:00:11,520
Speaker 1: Like you said, Kirk Cousins, what is he Is he

1044
01:00:11,640 --> 01:00:15,040
Speaker 1: the guy who can get you closer in games that

1045
01:00:15,120 --> 01:00:18,960
Speaker 1: don't mean anything, or is he the guy that somehow

1046
01:00:19,040 --> 01:00:22,440
Speaker 1: manages to lose games by a very close margin. That

1047
01:00:22,600 --> 01:00:26,320
Speaker 1: mean a lot. That's consistently what he's been. He is

1048
01:00:26,360 --> 01:00:29,640
Speaker 1: not a quarterback who overperforms. He is not a quarterback

1049
01:00:29,760 --> 01:00:33,720
Speaker 1: who has thirteen win seasons. He's essentially a five hundred

1050
01:00:33,800 --> 01:00:38,680
Speaker 1: quarterback in a variety of circumstances in many, many NFL seasons.

1051
01:00:38,720 --> 01:00:41,800
Speaker 1: He is what he's going to be. So you kind

1052
01:00:41,800 --> 01:00:44,360
Speaker 1: of are banking on the fact that you think Kevin

1053
01:00:44,360 --> 01:00:46,320
Speaker 1: O'Connell is going to be able to do things with

1054
01:00:46,440 --> 01:00:50,160
Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins that nobody in Kirk cousins career has been

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Speaker 1: able to do when they were his head coach. I

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Speaker 1: will say this, I love the Detroit Lions over six

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Speaker 1: and a half. I think they are a fascinating team.

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Speaker 1: I like the playmakers they have. Jared Goff gets a

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Speaker 1: bad rap. Jared Goff did take the Rams to the

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl. Jared Goff did have a transcendent, amazing performance

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Speaker 1: in one of the best games in NFL history, going

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Speaker 1: toe to toe with Patrick Mahomes when he was on

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Speaker 1: the Rams. He's got a great running back, he's got

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Speaker 1: weapons on the edges, he's got a really good offensive line,

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Speaker 1: and I'm a huge Dan Campbell fan. He's the antithesis

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Speaker 1: of what you would expect someone like me would be

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Speaker 1: a fan of. I love the emotion, I love the passion.

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Speaker 1: I love that he is completely unself aware of what

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Speaker 1: the Lions are and he just decided to go for it.

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Speaker 1: And he's going to own everything that is bad about

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Speaker 1: the Lions and say we're going to be better Lions

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Speaker 1: over six and a half. The other thing, yeah, the

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Speaker 1: other thing. Don't give me that look. Don't give me

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Speaker 1: that look. Because the other thing is their schedules. Tough, Okay,

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Speaker 1: time out. You have their schedule. Look, there's schedule up

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Speaker 1: right now, Milman. But right now, while I'm doing that,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna say the other thing is that the Bears

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Speaker 1: under six and a half. I would be all in

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Speaker 1: on that. I don't even care about them. I'm so

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Speaker 1: hold on. Okay, So let's go to the Lions schedule

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Speaker 1: right now. Let's look at this Lion schedule. You just

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Speaker 1: say win or loss. Okay, Eagles at the Lions, Eagles

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Speaker 1: at the Lions, Week one, Yeah, that's a win. I'll

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Speaker 1: tell you why. And you want to I would just

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Speaker 1: want to step them up. Hold on, you want to

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Speaker 1: talk about best bets. That's going to be your best

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Speaker 1: bet that Lions Week one against the Eagles in Detroit.

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Speaker 1: Give me the Lions of underdogs. I take the Lions

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Speaker 1: on the money line. Go that. That's the best bet

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Speaker 1: in Pontiac that's best bet. What what do you mean?

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Speaker 1: Best bet of? What meaning? What like? If you're telling

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Speaker 1: me right now in week one, I'm getting hold on,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you right now what I'm getting Week one.

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Speaker 1: I've got the Lions plus four and a half at

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Speaker 1: home against the Eagles. I'm taking the Lions plus four

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Speaker 1: and a half, and I will probably sprinkle a little

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Speaker 1: bit a little bit on the Lions to win outright,

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Speaker 1: because if you're going to a better team like that

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Speaker 1: in any point in the season, it's Week one, okay,

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Speaker 1: Commanders at the Lions, you'd give that a w I imagine, yes,

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Speaker 1: Lions at the Vikings loss, Yes, Seahawks at the Lions.

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Speaker 1: That's a wye. That's three Lions at the Lions at

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Speaker 1: the Patriots, give it a loss. Lions to the Cowboys,

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Speaker 1: probably a loss. Dolphins at the Lions. I'm gonna say

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Speaker 1: at that point in the season, I'll give it a

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Speaker 1: w oh boy. Okay, Packers at the Lions. That's always

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Speaker 1: a tricky spot for the Packers. I'll say, I'll say

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Speaker 1: an L right now. But if I'm only a six

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Speaker 1: wins at the end of the year, I'm moving that

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Speaker 1: to a W. Lions at the Bears. Do you think

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Speaker 1: the Lions will beat Chicago and Chicago the Bears if

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Speaker 1: the Bears were if there was an alt line and

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Speaker 1: the Bears under four and a half, I would take it. Okay,

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Speaker 1: Lions at the Giants, you're going to give that a W. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I would give that a W. Bills at the Lions, Okay,

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Speaker 1: So then the Jaguars at the Lions December fourth, there's

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Speaker 1: your seventh win. So there's your there there, and they

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Speaker 1: also have to go to the Jets and the Panthers. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean, I you're just giving them every break. I boy,

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Speaker 1: why can't I like even if, by the way, even

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Speaker 1: if they didn't get every break. So let's say that.

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Speaker 1: Let's say that I thought against every team on the

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Speaker 1: schedule that you just mentioned that was five hundred or worse,

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Speaker 1: and I believe this team can be on a level

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Speaker 1: like that. I would give them the win against the

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Speaker 1: Jets I would give them the win against the Panthers.

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Speaker 1: So now all of a sudden at nine, let's say

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Speaker 1: they don't get the Let's say they don't get the

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Speaker 1: brakes on the road against the Bears. Let's say they

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Speaker 1: don't get the breaks on the road against the Giants.

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Speaker 1: I'm still at seven wins, and I think they'll probably

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Speaker 1: beat the Packers at home. Jeez, you know a lot

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Speaker 1: of favorable you know. I think the longer you have

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Speaker 1: a mediocre coach, the more you realize he's a mediocre coach.

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Speaker 1: I think by like week eight to ten, we're all

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Speaker 1: going to be gone, Like Dan Campbell's likable but bad. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but this team wins in week one. That carries over

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Speaker 1: for three weeks of goodwill and they will believe. And

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Speaker 1: look this team last year three thirteen and one, eleven

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Speaker 1: and six against the spread, the only team in the

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Speaker 1: modern era since nineteen ninety two have three or fewer

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Speaker 1: losses and that many wins against the spread. They battle,

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