1 00:00:00,560 --> 00:00:08,039 Speaker 1: Oh no, the down the passing of time comes for everyone, 2 00:00:08,360 --> 00:00:12,640 Speaker 1: two thousands basketball fans included, as we celebrated just. 3 00:00:12,760 --> 00:00:15,360 Speaker 2: A ton of wonderful human beings being inducted into the 4 00:00:15,400 --> 00:00:18,920 Speaker 2: Naismith Basketball Hall of Fame. We're gonna discuss that uh 5 00:00:19,120 --> 00:00:21,800 Speaker 2: incredible headlining class of twenty twenty three, as well as 6 00:00:21,840 --> 00:00:25,400 Speaker 2: continuing our division by division predictions with the Pacific Division 7 00:00:25,520 --> 00:00:29,240 Speaker 2: on this episode with writer and recording artists Claire to Lude. 8 00:00:29,360 --> 00:00:33,120 Speaker 2: On today's episode, I'm Miles Great. 9 00:00:32,920 --> 00:00:44,440 Speaker 3: And I'm Jack O'Brien and this is miss. 10 00:00:42,120 --> 00:00:47,479 Speaker 2: Davis here. You damby driving spinning. 11 00:00:49,360 --> 00:00:50,440 Speaker 4: Curry a three pointer? 12 00:00:52,120 --> 00:00:54,240 Speaker 3: Stop Curry from child again. 13 00:00:54,880 --> 00:00:58,800 Speaker 5: Honest, look out shit time what you get gass? 14 00:01:00,680 --> 00:01:04,319 Speaker 2: Oh clear to Loom, welcome writer for The Guardian. Your 15 00:01:04,360 --> 00:01:06,480 Speaker 2: band Tiny Death has a new single coming out at 16 00:01:06,480 --> 00:01:08,720 Speaker 2: the end of the month, and you have chosen to 17 00:01:08,760 --> 00:01:12,039 Speaker 2: bless us on our podcast. Mother Jack on mat Boostie's. 18 00:01:11,720 --> 00:01:14,440 Speaker 5: Thank you for coming man, thanks for having me. I'm exit. 19 00:01:14,520 --> 00:01:17,399 Speaker 6: I haven't actually been on a podcast to talk basketball 20 00:01:17,440 --> 00:01:21,120 Speaker 6: in several weeks now, because we're in that Douldoms of 21 00:01:21,160 --> 00:01:23,559 Speaker 6: the off season where everyone who works in the NBA 22 00:01:23,680 --> 00:01:27,319 Speaker 6: universe is in like some tropical location with their phones on, 23 00:01:27,400 --> 00:01:28,120 Speaker 6: do not disturb. 24 00:01:28,280 --> 00:01:30,440 Speaker 5: So yeah, getting back in the swing of things. 25 00:01:30,600 --> 00:01:33,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, I haven't been paying any attention. I haven't like 26 00:01:33,560 --> 00:01:37,160 Speaker 3: looked at any news. I'm coming in fresh so I'm 27 00:01:37,280 --> 00:01:41,200 Speaker 3: just opening up my uh days. What is happening? 28 00:01:41,520 --> 00:01:43,600 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it's. 29 00:01:43,400 --> 00:01:46,959 Speaker 5: Time to take a vacation of disturb if you're a sixer. 30 00:01:46,680 --> 00:01:50,000 Speaker 2: Span yeah, oh boy, I just want to hop right in. Jack, 31 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:51,760 Speaker 2: you want to rip the band aid off? We're just 32 00:01:51,800 --> 00:01:53,360 Speaker 2: a little ban for up top. What do you say? 33 00:01:53,400 --> 00:01:53,960 Speaker 2: What should we do? 34 00:01:56,040 --> 00:02:01,000 Speaker 3: Yeah? I mean that's it. I thought that, Oh, they're 35 00:02:01,040 --> 00:02:03,360 Speaker 3: just gonna bring him back and it's gonna work out. 36 00:02:04,120 --> 00:02:07,840 Speaker 3: As I was managing on last week's episode, and our 37 00:02:07,880 --> 00:02:11,600 Speaker 3: guest was like, I don't think so that doesn't usually 38 00:02:11,680 --> 00:02:17,720 Speaker 3: work out with James Harden And yeah, it turns out 39 00:02:18,200 --> 00:02:22,400 Speaker 3: doesn't doesn't look doesn't look good. He does not appear 40 00:02:22,440 --> 00:02:25,959 Speaker 3: to want to play for the Philadelphia seventy six ers 41 00:02:26,000 --> 00:02:30,200 Speaker 3: this season, and I don't know who's going to trade 42 00:02:30,480 --> 00:02:36,000 Speaker 3: for him, so I don't know what we're gonna do. Yeah, 43 00:02:36,360 --> 00:02:40,080 Speaker 3: I feel like I feel like Embide's most comfortable when 44 00:02:40,400 --> 00:02:43,000 Speaker 3: like one of his top teammates is sitting out due 45 00:02:43,040 --> 00:02:45,120 Speaker 3: to a contract dispute like that seems to be how 46 00:02:45,200 --> 00:02:48,120 Speaker 3: he likes to play. So I think maybe this is 47 00:02:48,160 --> 00:02:51,160 Speaker 3: all just you know, getting him in his company. 48 00:02:51,280 --> 00:02:55,240 Speaker 6: But did you guys see see the latest goss on 49 00:02:55,440 --> 00:02:58,239 Speaker 6: on Twitter involving Joel embiide. 50 00:02:57,800 --> 00:03:02,320 Speaker 2: That hed yeah gone Philly from the bio gone and. 51 00:03:02,280 --> 00:03:06,040 Speaker 6: The process from his Twitter bio. So yeah, maybe not 52 00:03:07,160 --> 00:03:08,800 Speaker 6: he doesn't like the vibes in Philly. 53 00:03:09,360 --> 00:03:11,880 Speaker 3: Huh why wouldn't be? How could he not. 54 00:03:13,480 --> 00:03:17,000 Speaker 2: Very consistent such a consistent team obviously obviously. 55 00:03:16,639 --> 00:03:21,000 Speaker 6: Yeah, the process has been it's been processing for It's 56 00:03:21,040 --> 00:03:23,240 Speaker 6: like a Dell, It's like a two thousand and one. 57 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:27,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it is hard to understand what Joel and 58 00:03:27,840 --> 00:03:31,079 Speaker 3: b would be frustrated about for those of us who 59 00:03:31,080 --> 00:03:35,680 Speaker 3: don't understand that somebody there is a viral list going 60 00:03:35,720 --> 00:03:38,080 Speaker 3: around of like just you know, a rundown of what 61 00:03:38,200 --> 00:03:41,520 Speaker 3: the seventy six ers have done each year twenty thirteen 62 00:03:41,640 --> 00:03:45,640 Speaker 3: through the present, and they left out a lot of 63 00:03:45,680 --> 00:03:52,600 Speaker 3: bad stuff on the list. They yeah, they like, so 64 00:03:52,680 --> 00:03:54,640 Speaker 3: they covered you know, traded twenty one year olds. A 65 00:03:54,640 --> 00:03:57,000 Speaker 3: lot of this stuff predates my time as a Sixers fan. 66 00:03:57,840 --> 00:04:01,600 Speaker 3: But once you get right, yeah, once you get into 67 00:04:01,600 --> 00:04:03,000 Speaker 3: the sixteen era. 68 00:04:03,240 --> 00:04:06,120 Speaker 2: Yeah right, yeah, that's what I remember. That was the 69 00:04:06,160 --> 00:04:08,840 Speaker 2: beginnings of me watching you slowly begin to fade. 70 00:04:09,360 --> 00:04:12,880 Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean there were high highs and low low's right, 71 00:04:13,000 --> 00:04:17,320 Speaker 6: like you guys were one game seven collapse away from 72 00:04:18,080 --> 00:04:20,680 Speaker 6: the conference finals. 73 00:04:20,760 --> 00:04:22,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, they didn't. They don't seem to want to. 74 00:04:22,680 --> 00:04:26,760 Speaker 5: Get improbable bounce away as well. 75 00:04:27,920 --> 00:04:31,520 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I've forgotten about that. That's right. That Yeah, 76 00:04:31,720 --> 00:04:34,440 Speaker 3: I remember remember when I. 77 00:04:34,360 --> 00:04:34,960 Speaker 5: Was watching that. 78 00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:37,279 Speaker 6: I'm surprised that you, as a Sixers fan, that it's 79 00:04:37,360 --> 00:04:39,919 Speaker 6: not like emblazoned in your memory in that way, because 80 00:04:39,960 --> 00:04:43,800 Speaker 6: I remember I was on my friend's couch. It was 81 00:04:44,120 --> 00:04:45,920 Speaker 6: I was on a trip and I was on my 82 00:04:46,000 --> 00:04:48,839 Speaker 6: friend's couch visiting, and I was like kind of reclined 83 00:04:48,839 --> 00:04:51,440 Speaker 6: on the couch, like lying down, and when that shot 84 00:04:51,480 --> 00:04:54,520 Speaker 6: started bouncing off the rim, I like left off the 85 00:04:54,560 --> 00:04:57,760 Speaker 6: couch and I was just standing there watching it bounce, 86 00:04:57,920 --> 00:05:00,800 Speaker 6: like breath suspended, and it was one of the craziest 87 00:05:01,200 --> 00:05:03,080 Speaker 6: endings to a game that I think I've ever seen 88 00:05:03,120 --> 00:05:03,640 Speaker 6: in my life. 89 00:05:04,480 --> 00:05:09,680 Speaker 3: No, it's not ringing a bells. So twenty sixteen. I'm 90 00:05:09,680 --> 00:05:11,600 Speaker 3: not going to go down the list, but here's what 91 00:05:11,640 --> 00:05:14,960 Speaker 3: the here's what the list leaves out. 92 00:05:16,120 --> 00:05:19,240 Speaker 2: Which they have every year. It's saying one decision on 93 00:05:19,360 --> 00:05:22,600 Speaker 2: what terrible decision that are a terrible occurrence. 94 00:05:22,560 --> 00:05:27,160 Speaker 3: Of twenty sixteen hired their advisor's son to run the team, 95 00:05:27,440 --> 00:05:30,200 Speaker 3: which which gave us the line it's a it's a 96 00:05:30,240 --> 00:05:33,240 Speaker 3: normal caller, find a new angle, which we use a 97 00:05:33,240 --> 00:05:38,600 Speaker 3: lot just in our reflex. Twenty seventeen number one pick 98 00:05:38,640 --> 00:05:44,080 Speaker 3: loses the ability to shoot a basketball. Twenty eighteen GM 99 00:05:44,240 --> 00:05:47,480 Speaker 3: trashed star player on Twitter under burner accounts, hired a 100 00:05:47,480 --> 00:05:52,159 Speaker 3: new GM with no experience that that was the it's 101 00:05:52,160 --> 00:05:55,440 Speaker 3: a normal caller, find a new angle drama. Twenty nineteen 102 00:05:55,520 --> 00:05:58,640 Speaker 3: traded Jimmy Butler, twenty twenty fired coach, hired new coach, 103 00:05:59,120 --> 00:06:03,000 Speaker 3: then hired new Twenty twenty one star point guard demands trade. 104 00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:05,920 Speaker 3: Twenty twenty two investigated for tampering. I didn't even remember that. 105 00:06:05,920 --> 00:06:09,600 Speaker 3: Twenty twenty three star point guard demands trade. They did 106 00:06:09,720 --> 00:06:13,640 Speaker 3: leave out that their twenty sixteen number one pick also 107 00:06:13,720 --> 00:06:16,640 Speaker 3: lost the ability to shoot. Yeah, or like kind of 108 00:06:16,680 --> 00:06:17,200 Speaker 3: never had. 109 00:06:17,080 --> 00:06:19,440 Speaker 5: It, or like play basketball in general. 110 00:06:19,120 --> 00:06:23,359 Speaker 3: Yeah, which that's whild Twenty sixteen and twenty seventeen number 111 00:06:23,360 --> 00:06:25,680 Speaker 3: one picks both lost the ability to shoot is like 112 00:06:26,360 --> 00:06:30,200 Speaker 3: more more of a curse than anything that would make sense. 113 00:06:30,600 --> 00:06:35,919 Speaker 3: You know, the twenty sixteen number one pick is a 114 00:06:35,960 --> 00:06:39,119 Speaker 3: better shooter with his right hand, but refuses to shoot 115 00:06:39,120 --> 00:06:43,920 Speaker 3: with his right hand. But and then the twenty seventeen 116 00:06:44,560 --> 00:06:47,480 Speaker 3: pick the lost the ability to shoot a basketball. They 117 00:06:47,560 --> 00:06:53,240 Speaker 3: traded up away from trade from drafting Jason Tatum to 118 00:06:53,279 --> 00:06:56,880 Speaker 3: get him. So I just it's it's important to keep 119 00:06:56,920 --> 00:07:01,279 Speaker 3: in mind that they are currently, you know, two very 120 00:07:01,320 --> 00:07:07,640 Speaker 3: bad moves away from having Jason Tatum, Jimmy Butler, Joel 121 00:07:07,680 --> 00:07:11,720 Speaker 3: Embiid and whatever you could have gotten for Benson, like 122 00:07:11,760 --> 00:07:14,040 Speaker 3: if they had just traded Ben Simmons instead of Jimmy 123 00:07:14,040 --> 00:07:17,080 Speaker 3: Butler at that point when it was like either Butler 124 00:07:17,200 --> 00:07:21,520 Speaker 3: or Simmons, that was like the peak of Ben Simmons's 125 00:07:21,560 --> 00:07:22,679 Speaker 3: like trade value. 126 00:07:22,960 --> 00:07:24,280 Speaker 5: So yeah, do you. 127 00:07:24,240 --> 00:07:27,280 Speaker 6: Think it was like the stubbornness about like that the 128 00:07:27,360 --> 00:07:29,760 Speaker 6: process was worth it that kept because that was kind 129 00:07:29,760 --> 00:07:33,200 Speaker 6: of my interpretation was that Simmons and Embiid were sort 130 00:07:33,240 --> 00:07:36,720 Speaker 6: of like the homegrown stars and sort of the products 131 00:07:36,720 --> 00:07:39,000 Speaker 6: of the process, and that the Philly fans had been 132 00:07:39,040 --> 00:07:42,880 Speaker 6: so long suffering throughout this process that they wanted to say, like, see, 133 00:07:42,880 --> 00:07:45,840 Speaker 6: it was worth it. We got our two Hallmark stars 134 00:07:45,840 --> 00:07:49,680 Speaker 6: out of this versus catering to Jimmy Butler, who, ultimately, 135 00:07:49,720 --> 00:07:52,040 Speaker 6: I think in retrospect it's obviously the better choice. But 136 00:07:52,280 --> 00:07:54,640 Speaker 6: was like they traded for him and he wasn't from there, 137 00:07:54,640 --> 00:07:59,000 Speaker 6: and he hadn't really expressed interest in staying there because 138 00:07:59,320 --> 00:08:01,840 Speaker 6: when he was leaving Minnesota, the heat was actually his 139 00:08:01,920 --> 00:08:04,679 Speaker 6: preferred destination at that time as well. 140 00:08:04,920 --> 00:08:06,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, it might be a little pet to be like 141 00:08:06,880 --> 00:08:09,040 Speaker 3: they could have had Jimmy Butler because Jimmy Butler didn't 142 00:08:09,040 --> 00:08:13,840 Speaker 3: seem that excited to stay. Yeah, there is some reporting 143 00:08:13,880 --> 00:08:16,200 Speaker 3: that like he was like the thing that I don't 144 00:08:16,240 --> 00:08:18,800 Speaker 3: want is to be on Ben Simmons's team, and they 145 00:08:18,800 --> 00:08:22,440 Speaker 3: were like, well, Buster, you're at Well. 146 00:08:22,320 --> 00:08:24,360 Speaker 6: The thing about Jimmy Butler that so Jimmy is my 147 00:08:24,920 --> 00:08:26,760 Speaker 6: I don't know if you guys have ever like even 148 00:08:26,800 --> 00:08:29,239 Speaker 6: scrolled my Twitter, you know, Lebron James is my favorite 149 00:08:29,240 --> 00:08:32,160 Speaker 6: player of all time and currently, but my second favorite 150 00:08:32,160 --> 00:08:36,040 Speaker 6: player is Jimmy Butler. And something I love about Jimmy 151 00:08:36,360 --> 00:08:38,720 Speaker 6: is like when he doesn't get along with people and 152 00:08:38,760 --> 00:08:41,040 Speaker 6: when he doesn't like people, it's because they don't. It's 153 00:08:41,040 --> 00:08:43,800 Speaker 6: because of one thing. It's because they don't grind hard enough. 154 00:08:43,840 --> 00:08:45,800 Speaker 6: They don't have like his work ethic, and they don't 155 00:08:45,800 --> 00:08:49,080 Speaker 6: approach the game in that way. And I feel like 156 00:08:49,120 --> 00:08:50,599 Speaker 6: so that was like the issue that he had with 157 00:08:50,679 --> 00:08:53,240 Speaker 6: Karl Anthony Towns, that was the issue that he had 158 00:08:53,240 --> 00:08:55,800 Speaker 6: with Ben Simmons, and I kind of respect that because 159 00:08:55,840 --> 00:08:57,960 Speaker 6: I feel like he the people he ends up having 160 00:08:58,000 --> 00:09:00,839 Speaker 6: issues with are these guys who were like super high 161 00:09:00,920 --> 00:09:05,440 Speaker 6: draft picks, like physically gifted, who maybe don't have to 162 00:09:05,480 --> 00:09:07,560 Speaker 6: like put forth quite as much effort into their game 163 00:09:07,600 --> 00:09:08,880 Speaker 6: in order to be successful. 164 00:09:08,960 --> 00:09:10,240 Speaker 5: Obviously everybody has to. 165 00:09:10,160 --> 00:09:12,120 Speaker 6: Put forth effort to be successful in the NBA, Like 166 00:09:12,360 --> 00:09:14,439 Speaker 6: it's a very small sample size of human beings who 167 00:09:14,440 --> 00:09:16,319 Speaker 6: get to play at that level. Yeah, but I think 168 00:09:16,360 --> 00:09:19,520 Speaker 6: that's something that people that Jimmy but it heads with 169 00:09:19,640 --> 00:09:23,360 Speaker 6: having comments that they just weren't they weren't like dogs 170 00:09:23,400 --> 00:09:25,760 Speaker 6: in that way, like they weren't willing to like get 171 00:09:25,760 --> 00:09:28,199 Speaker 6: their hands dirty. And I think that's why the Heat 172 00:09:28,240 --> 00:09:29,959 Speaker 6: was always going to be such a great fit for him, 173 00:09:30,000 --> 00:09:32,920 Speaker 6: is because pat Riley has like a zero tolerance policy 174 00:09:32,960 --> 00:09:35,160 Speaker 6: for players like that, So no one's going to survive 175 00:09:35,200 --> 00:09:38,160 Speaker 6: in Miami with or without Jimmy Butler without that mentality. 176 00:09:38,760 --> 00:09:41,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, no, that makes sense. It's it is hard to 177 00:09:41,360 --> 00:09:45,200 Speaker 3: be this physical, physically gifted and you know, maintain a 178 00:09:45,240 --> 00:09:47,840 Speaker 3: strong work ethic I've found. 179 00:09:48,400 --> 00:09:50,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, you took it for granted, man, you took it 180 00:09:50,480 --> 00:09:50,880 Speaker 2: for granted. 181 00:09:52,080 --> 00:09:54,280 Speaker 3: But anyways, it does. It just does feel like they've 182 00:09:54,280 --> 00:09:57,920 Speaker 3: had to work to get themselves, like to dodge really 183 00:09:57,960 --> 00:10:00,520 Speaker 3: great players in a couple. Yeah, it is. 184 00:10:00,640 --> 00:10:01,559 Speaker 5: Kind of fascinating. 185 00:10:01,640 --> 00:10:03,800 Speaker 6: It is kind of fascinating, and like they're always at 186 00:10:03,840 --> 00:10:08,960 Speaker 6: the center of the NBA news cycle drama somehow, Yeah, 187 00:10:10,200 --> 00:10:12,400 Speaker 6: which is kind of amazing, especially when you think of 188 00:10:12,480 --> 00:10:15,400 Speaker 6: like they kind of dodged able in a way with 189 00:10:15,480 --> 00:10:17,560 Speaker 6: like they the way they went out I thought at 190 00:10:17,559 --> 00:10:19,839 Speaker 6: the end of this past season was like quite embarrassing 191 00:10:19,880 --> 00:10:22,120 Speaker 6: because they really had it like in that game six 192 00:10:23,840 --> 00:10:27,280 Speaker 6: and then so but the Celtics found a way to 193 00:10:27,360 --> 00:10:29,840 Speaker 6: like go out in like a more embarrassing fashion, so 194 00:10:29,920 --> 00:10:31,960 Speaker 6: that it kind of buried that in the news cycle, 195 00:10:32,080 --> 00:10:35,600 Speaker 6: like how did you, like, how did the Celtics bumble 196 00:10:35,720 --> 00:10:39,320 Speaker 6: that Eastern Conference Finals? But then the Sixers were like, 197 00:10:39,520 --> 00:10:42,120 Speaker 6: hold my beer, We're running back at it. In the 198 00:10:42,160 --> 00:10:43,959 Speaker 6: news cycle and we're going to be at the center 199 00:10:44,000 --> 00:10:45,959 Speaker 6: of the drama again before you know it, and the 200 00:10:45,960 --> 00:10:48,680 Speaker 6: Celtics are just kind of like quietly figuring out what 201 00:10:48,720 --> 00:10:52,079 Speaker 6: to do about Christa's persuingis and or fascia or whatever. 202 00:10:52,200 --> 00:10:56,000 Speaker 3: So yeah, I don't know a lot. Like the process 203 00:10:56,040 --> 00:11:00,000 Speaker 3: stuff gets a lot of attention, but their other philosophy 204 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:03,360 Speaker 3: as an organization all press is good Press doesn't get 205 00:11:03,400 --> 00:11:07,040 Speaker 3: as much, but it's definitely important to how they run things, 206 00:11:07,080 --> 00:11:10,320 Speaker 3: and they just like to be messy and get as 207 00:11:10,360 --> 00:11:11,280 Speaker 3: much ink as possible. 208 00:11:11,320 --> 00:11:12,960 Speaker 6: I feel like it's relevant for me to say on 209 00:11:13,000 --> 00:11:16,679 Speaker 6: the record that I do love Daryl Moray because he's 210 00:11:16,679 --> 00:11:18,840 Speaker 6: a fan of my band and has been quite supportive 211 00:11:18,880 --> 00:11:24,400 Speaker 6: of my say so about team Darryl Moury in the 212 00:11:24,520 --> 00:11:28,080 Speaker 6: Darryl Moray versus James Harden. Actually honestly team Daryl Moray 213 00:11:28,120 --> 00:11:30,760 Speaker 6: in general in this scenario, because I feel like the 214 00:11:30,880 --> 00:11:33,520 Speaker 6: hubris of James Harden to be like, because clearly he's 215 00:11:33,559 --> 00:11:36,280 Speaker 6: just mad Darryl. It sounds like, I don't know, I 216 00:11:36,320 --> 00:11:38,600 Speaker 6: wasn't there. This isn't like I'm not reporting anything, but 217 00:11:38,640 --> 00:11:40,240 Speaker 6: it sounds like maybe there was some sort of like 218 00:11:40,320 --> 00:11:44,040 Speaker 6: gentlemen's agreement about a longer contract extension if he agreed 219 00:11:44,080 --> 00:11:46,319 Speaker 6: to take a pay cut last year and that didn't 220 00:11:46,360 --> 00:11:48,840 Speaker 6: end up happening. But it's like, hey, James, maybe that 221 00:11:48,880 --> 00:11:51,000 Speaker 6: didn't end up happening because you were of no show 222 00:11:51,280 --> 00:11:54,560 Speaker 6: in the most important moments of the playoffs again, and 223 00:11:54,600 --> 00:11:57,320 Speaker 6: they realized that they could not pitch their wagon to 224 00:11:57,360 --> 00:11:59,920 Speaker 6: you in good conscience, Like if you showed up in 225 00:12:00,080 --> 00:12:02,880 Speaker 6: big moments, you're one of the most talented NBA players 226 00:12:02,880 --> 00:12:04,760 Speaker 6: of all time, Like the bag would be getting thrown 227 00:12:04,800 --> 00:12:07,640 Speaker 6: at you still, but you fall apart when it really matters. 228 00:12:08,120 --> 00:12:11,480 Speaker 6: And so I think it's like I'm like number one 229 00:12:11,520 --> 00:12:14,360 Speaker 6: player empowerment, Like I feel like the players should have 230 00:12:14,440 --> 00:12:16,280 Speaker 6: the power. They are the talent, they are the reason 231 00:12:16,360 --> 00:12:18,640 Speaker 6: any of us have a job. But at the end 232 00:12:18,640 --> 00:12:20,960 Speaker 6: of the day, like you have to show up in 233 00:12:21,000 --> 00:12:23,320 Speaker 6: the big moments if you want the big paycheck, Like 234 00:12:23,400 --> 00:12:27,320 Speaker 6: that is the correlation, and they'll give you the benefit 235 00:12:27,320 --> 00:12:29,960 Speaker 6: of the doubt for a season, maybe two seasons. But 236 00:12:30,120 --> 00:12:33,200 Speaker 6: James Harden, like year in, year out and the absolute 237 00:12:33,240 --> 00:12:36,040 Speaker 6: biggest moments has found a way to a piano show 238 00:12:36,360 --> 00:12:39,040 Speaker 6: regardless of how much of an MVP season he's had 239 00:12:39,080 --> 00:12:41,400 Speaker 6: the regular season, regardless of how well he's played in 240 00:12:41,400 --> 00:12:45,480 Speaker 6: the first or second round even so, yeah, sorry, dude, 241 00:12:45,720 --> 00:12:46,640 Speaker 6: Like no one's gonna want. 242 00:12:46,520 --> 00:12:50,280 Speaker 2: To pay you, Like where do you go? Like given 243 00:12:50,320 --> 00:12:50,800 Speaker 2: all that too? 244 00:12:50,960 --> 00:12:52,559 Speaker 5: Really, I was trying to think of that today. 245 00:12:52,559 --> 00:12:56,240 Speaker 6: I was like, what team would be because it's this 246 00:12:56,280 --> 00:12:57,880 Speaker 6: is this is the issue with a lot of these 247 00:12:57,960 --> 00:13:02,080 Speaker 6: unhappy superstars that demand trade is like it has to 248 00:13:02,080 --> 00:13:04,920 Speaker 6: be a team that's good enough that they're willing to 249 00:13:04,960 --> 00:13:08,080 Speaker 6: mortgage their future to try and win now, but not 250 00:13:08,480 --> 00:13:13,480 Speaker 6: so good that they have assets that they're not willing 251 00:13:13,520 --> 00:13:16,400 Speaker 6: to give up, which is like I would say maybe 252 00:13:16,440 --> 00:13:19,240 Speaker 6: like two to three teams total for any superstar, like 253 00:13:19,240 --> 00:13:21,559 Speaker 6: that's in that little sweet spot of like we think 254 00:13:21,600 --> 00:13:23,920 Speaker 6: we have a chance, but we clearly need like a 255 00:13:24,000 --> 00:13:26,199 Speaker 6: James Harden level talent to get us over the hump. 256 00:13:26,240 --> 00:13:30,880 Speaker 6: That's like not very many teams, right, And if a 257 00:13:30,920 --> 00:13:33,840 Speaker 6: team is trying to tank, they don't want to bring 258 00:13:33,880 --> 00:13:35,679 Speaker 6: in big talent and they don't want to give up 259 00:13:35,720 --> 00:13:37,640 Speaker 6: draft picks to do it. And if a team is 260 00:13:37,720 --> 00:13:40,560 Speaker 6: really in the championship hunt, they don't really need to 261 00:13:40,720 --> 00:13:45,240 Speaker 6: like roll the dice a player like James Harden, who's 262 00:13:45,240 --> 00:13:48,480 Speaker 6: so mercurial and might you know, be unhappy before the 263 00:13:48,520 --> 00:13:49,200 Speaker 6: trade deadline. 264 00:13:51,360 --> 00:13:57,800 Speaker 2: Mercurial to describe him, I mean, yeah, I think that. 265 00:13:58,040 --> 00:14:01,000 Speaker 6: Yeah, he's just he's in that. I feel like we 266 00:14:01,000 --> 00:14:03,840 Speaker 6: were looking at this exact same scenario when Kyrie was 267 00:14:03,880 --> 00:14:05,920 Speaker 6: demanding out of a trade out of Brooklyn last year. 268 00:14:06,400 --> 00:14:09,880 Speaker 6: It's like, how many teams were in that sweet spot 269 00:14:09,920 --> 00:14:13,280 Speaker 6: of being like, we need Kyrie irving services. We're in 270 00:14:13,320 --> 00:14:15,520 Speaker 6: desperate need of a talent that big, and we're willing 271 00:14:15,520 --> 00:14:17,800 Speaker 6: to mortgage our future to do it, and it doesn't 272 00:14:17,800 --> 00:14:20,920 Speaker 6: really matter what the long term implications are. And I 273 00:14:20,920 --> 00:14:23,040 Speaker 6: feel like Dallas was kind of one of the only 274 00:14:23,160 --> 00:14:26,160 Speaker 6: teams in that spot where it's like, Luca's going to 275 00:14:26,240 --> 00:14:29,440 Speaker 6: demand a trade within the next one to two seasons 276 00:14:29,640 --> 00:14:32,400 Speaker 6: if we don't figure out a way to get him 277 00:14:32,520 --> 00:14:36,680 Speaker 6: some help. And also we're pretty good already and it's 278 00:14:36,720 --> 00:14:39,240 Speaker 6: worth trying, you know, I. 279 00:14:39,240 --> 00:14:43,960 Speaker 3: Don't know what that do, Like just it doesn't make 280 00:14:43,960 --> 00:14:47,560 Speaker 3: sense for anyone, but like, just because the Sixers need 281 00:14:47,560 --> 00:14:50,880 Speaker 3: to get it, like he won't play for them, does 282 00:14:51,880 --> 00:14:55,160 Speaker 3: like would he be a better fit than Kyrie in Dallas? 283 00:14:55,400 --> 00:14:58,920 Speaker 5: I mean, that's a good question. I don't. 284 00:15:00,280 --> 00:15:03,560 Speaker 6: I don't know how bad the Kyrie and Dallas situation is. 285 00:15:03,600 --> 00:15:05,840 Speaker 6: And I know I think something that a lot of 286 00:15:05,880 --> 00:15:08,640 Speaker 6: times NBA fans, when they're trying to predict this stuff 287 00:15:08,720 --> 00:15:11,320 Speaker 6: underestimate is like the egos of the people in charge 288 00:15:11,360 --> 00:15:14,440 Speaker 6: of making the trades. Yeah, and they are really really 289 00:15:14,480 --> 00:15:17,120 Speaker 6: reticent to admit defeat when they made a bad decision. 290 00:15:17,120 --> 00:15:20,000 Speaker 6: And I think signing Kyrie was obviously it didn't even 291 00:15:20,040 --> 00:15:23,040 Speaker 6: make the playoffs slash play in tournament last year, so 292 00:15:23,280 --> 00:15:25,600 Speaker 6: I think that has has not panned out to be 293 00:15:25,760 --> 00:15:28,360 Speaker 6: as what they hoped it would be. I think it 294 00:15:28,520 --> 00:15:32,120 Speaker 6: usually takes another full season before they're willing to admit 295 00:15:32,480 --> 00:15:35,840 Speaker 6: that idea, because they did give up a lot to 296 00:15:35,920 --> 00:15:39,040 Speaker 6: get him, not necessarily in like current, they gave up 297 00:15:39,080 --> 00:15:41,040 Speaker 6: you know, future stuff they gave up I think was 298 00:15:41,080 --> 00:15:42,160 Speaker 6: dinwitty in that trade. 299 00:15:43,760 --> 00:15:45,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think so. 300 00:15:45,440 --> 00:15:48,000 Speaker 6: And I mean, yeah, so they gave up quite a bit. 301 00:15:48,160 --> 00:15:51,320 Speaker 6: And I think the it's it takes more than he 302 00:15:51,360 --> 00:15:54,680 Speaker 6: would think for these very like stubborn gms to be like, 303 00:15:54,880 --> 00:15:56,000 Speaker 6: oh yeah, my bad. 304 00:15:56,080 --> 00:15:57,240 Speaker 5: Let me fix that real quick. 305 00:15:57,960 --> 00:15:59,520 Speaker 6: You know, I think it takes it takes a lot, 306 00:15:59,640 --> 00:16:03,360 Speaker 6: usually takes at least a full season, right to. 307 00:16:03,440 --> 00:16:04,800 Speaker 3: It, down to down to earth guy. 308 00:16:04,920 --> 00:16:07,920 Speaker 2: So I don't know, well yeah, yeah, from what in 309 00:16:07,920 --> 00:16:08,480 Speaker 2: a shark tank? 310 00:16:09,520 --> 00:16:13,440 Speaker 3: Yeah no, uh as superducer Barry said, we should have 311 00:16:13,560 --> 00:16:16,000 Speaker 3: just put the ether beat under what you just said 312 00:16:16,040 --> 00:16:20,920 Speaker 3: about James Harden. It was hurtful, but I think seventy 313 00:16:20,960 --> 00:16:23,200 Speaker 3: six ers fans and you need to hear it. Yeah, 314 00:16:23,280 --> 00:16:24,480 Speaker 3: come to terms with it. 315 00:16:24,680 --> 00:16:30,120 Speaker 2: Yes, it is what it is. You know tis well 316 00:16:30,360 --> 00:16:32,000 Speaker 2: where has better strip clubs? 317 00:16:32,000 --> 00:16:33,280 Speaker 5: Philly or Dallas. 318 00:16:34,400 --> 00:16:35,240 Speaker 3: Oh, that's a great. 319 00:16:35,480 --> 00:16:37,440 Speaker 5: Fact that we should be including as well. 320 00:16:37,480 --> 00:16:41,680 Speaker 2: We get my spreadsheet out of real quick jack, where's 321 00:16:41,680 --> 00:16:45,240 Speaker 2: that USB thumb drive you have in your kit? Chains? 322 00:16:45,240 --> 00:16:49,320 Speaker 5: Those Southern girls, you know, they look they look good 323 00:16:49,320 --> 00:16:49,760 Speaker 5: in a song. 324 00:16:50,360 --> 00:16:53,600 Speaker 2: Also, you think like Portland per capita, that's also like 325 00:16:53,640 --> 00:16:56,800 Speaker 2: the epicenter of concentration of adults of stripe. 326 00:16:57,000 --> 00:17:02,160 Speaker 6: Like if somehow traded James Lillard for James Harden. 327 00:17:02,520 --> 00:17:06,920 Speaker 5: There would be riots. There would be riot. I can't think. 328 00:17:06,720 --> 00:17:09,760 Speaker 3: He's got a beard, just like all of you people. 329 00:17:09,880 --> 00:17:12,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, put him on. 330 00:17:12,840 --> 00:17:15,240 Speaker 5: A fix your bike, he'll run right in exactly. 331 00:17:15,920 --> 00:17:18,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, he's late for a shift at Powell's books later. 332 00:17:19,000 --> 00:17:21,479 Speaker 5: Come on, I mean would be a miracle for for Philly. 333 00:17:21,520 --> 00:17:24,520 Speaker 6: I would say because Darryl Moury, like Jamian Lillard is 334 00:17:24,600 --> 00:17:27,320 Speaker 6: Darryl Mory's white whale. He's been trying to get Damian 335 00:17:27,359 --> 00:17:32,000 Speaker 6: Lillard since at least since the Ben Simmons James Harden times, 336 00:17:32,960 --> 00:17:33,600 Speaker 6: maybe longer. 337 00:17:33,920 --> 00:17:36,240 Speaker 5: So I mean, I think Darryl would be thrilled with that. 338 00:17:36,280 --> 00:17:40,480 Speaker 6: But I can't imagine a scenario in which Portland does 339 00:17:40,480 --> 00:17:43,520 Speaker 6: that unless there's like a ton of draft capital that 340 00:17:43,560 --> 00:17:45,159 Speaker 6: Philly has that I'm not privy to. 341 00:17:45,760 --> 00:17:48,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, no, no, Yeah, that's that's for the fantasy books 342 00:17:48,920 --> 00:17:49,320 Speaker 2: for sure. 343 00:17:49,480 --> 00:17:52,200 Speaker 6: Yeah, although maybe, I mean, I don't know, Max, I 344 00:17:52,240 --> 00:17:52,520 Speaker 6: don't know. 345 00:17:52,560 --> 00:17:53,280 Speaker 5: They probably wouldn't. 346 00:17:54,040 --> 00:17:55,879 Speaker 2: No, I feel like because I feel like the fans 347 00:17:55,960 --> 00:17:58,600 Speaker 2: you see, Max is like a franchise player, right, they can't. 348 00:17:58,720 --> 00:18:00,399 Speaker 2: You can't, I know, way him. 349 00:18:00,400 --> 00:18:02,439 Speaker 5: Do you understand how much Darryl loves Samian the Alards 350 00:18:02,520 --> 00:18:03,639 Speaker 5: like that. 351 00:18:03,800 --> 00:18:04,040 Speaker 2: I mean. 352 00:18:04,280 --> 00:18:08,120 Speaker 6: Also, the other thing, the minutia of these trades, right 353 00:18:08,320 --> 00:18:10,879 Speaker 6: is like to like, as we were talking about, like, 354 00:18:10,960 --> 00:18:13,719 Speaker 6: it's about where you're at as a franchise. It's not 355 00:18:13,840 --> 00:18:16,359 Speaker 6: just about like the pieces on the board in general, 356 00:18:16,400 --> 00:18:18,639 Speaker 6: it's about the context in which they exist, which is 357 00:18:18,680 --> 00:18:20,600 Speaker 6: like how likely are you to win right now? 358 00:18:20,640 --> 00:18:21,399 Speaker 5: What's at stake? 359 00:18:21,880 --> 00:18:24,159 Speaker 6: And for Philly, I mean if Joelle is kind of 360 00:18:24,240 --> 00:18:28,840 Speaker 6: like making overtures that he's threatening to also demand a trade, 361 00:18:29,320 --> 00:18:32,000 Speaker 6: like the pressure's on if you're going to keep Joel embid. 362 00:18:32,080 --> 00:18:35,200 Speaker 6: I mean that's another conversation, like do you even want 363 00:18:35,200 --> 00:18:36,879 Speaker 6: to mortgage your future for Joel embiid? 364 00:18:36,960 --> 00:18:38,520 Speaker 5: Is it worth it? He hasn't really shown up in 365 00:18:38,520 --> 00:18:39,879 Speaker 5: big moments either, to be honest. 366 00:18:39,960 --> 00:18:43,640 Speaker 3: So, yeah, I'm having trouble breathing. 367 00:18:43,359 --> 00:18:45,560 Speaker 5: Right now, but I'm sorry, we can move on. 368 00:18:45,920 --> 00:18:49,520 Speaker 3: Uh I think he'll be No, Yeah, I think his 369 00:18:50,400 --> 00:18:53,480 Speaker 3: going off. Are you having some kind of car fall down? 370 00:18:54,040 --> 00:18:56,280 Speaker 5: You're in a very contentious environment. It's like I don't 371 00:18:56,280 --> 00:18:57,440 Speaker 5: even know what had that setting what? 372 00:18:57,680 --> 00:19:01,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you are getting yourself sir. 373 00:19:01,520 --> 00:19:04,520 Speaker 5: You're very unhappy. You're unhappiness ratings through the roof right now. 374 00:19:06,240 --> 00:19:09,560 Speaker 3: But yeah, I don't know. It does seem like they 375 00:19:09,600 --> 00:19:12,880 Speaker 3: don't really have a move at this point. It does. 376 00:19:13,280 --> 00:19:16,280 Speaker 3: It's also wild that Harden went as public as he 377 00:19:16,320 --> 00:19:19,879 Speaker 3: did with that demand, because it like makes it harder 378 00:19:19,960 --> 00:19:22,399 Speaker 3: for them to deal him. Right. 379 00:19:22,640 --> 00:19:24,760 Speaker 6: So one the most awkward videos I've ever seen too, 380 00:19:24,840 --> 00:19:27,479 Speaker 6: because like these he was in China, right, Yeah, like 381 00:19:27,560 --> 00:19:30,040 Speaker 6: that the Chinese kids are just like, we're so happy 382 00:19:30,080 --> 00:19:35,399 Speaker 6: you're here, and he's just as like unwitting ponds in 383 00:19:35,480 --> 00:19:38,359 Speaker 6: this like public meltdown, and I'm just like, that's so 384 00:19:39,320 --> 00:19:41,880 Speaker 6: can you just do that? Like, can you just call 385 00:19:42,119 --> 00:19:44,720 Speaker 6: Malika Andrews and have a sit down if you want to? 386 00:19:44,800 --> 00:19:47,320 Speaker 6: Like do you have to bring these innocent children into 387 00:19:47,359 --> 00:19:48,960 Speaker 6: the equation like they're just trying to be in a 388 00:19:49,000 --> 00:19:49,680 Speaker 6: basketball camp? 389 00:19:49,760 --> 00:19:50,040 Speaker 5: Dude? 390 00:19:50,240 --> 00:19:51,800 Speaker 2: I saw. I mean he's having fun in China. So 391 00:19:51,920 --> 00:19:54,399 Speaker 2: that CLiPPA him sell ten thousand bottles of wine in 392 00:19:54,440 --> 00:19:57,400 Speaker 2: like forty seconds, like on TikTok or whatever, And I. 393 00:19:57,320 --> 00:19:58,560 Speaker 5: Mean maybe he should go play in China. 394 00:19:58,600 --> 00:20:02,840 Speaker 3: Then to what kind of value we can get back? 395 00:20:04,080 --> 00:20:05,520 Speaker 2: Should we break or should we hit the Hall of 396 00:20:05,520 --> 00:20:07,359 Speaker 2: Fame talk? First, let's take a quick break. 397 00:20:07,480 --> 00:20:09,679 Speaker 3: Yeah, we'll come back and talk about an all timer 398 00:20:09,920 --> 00:20:12,200 Speaker 3: Hall of Fame class Hall of Fame ceremony with. 399 00:20:12,280 --> 00:20:28,000 Speaker 2: Your heartwarming moments. Fine, finally, and we're back and over 400 00:20:28,040 --> 00:20:29,760 Speaker 2: the weekend, you know, we had the Hall of Fame 401 00:20:29,840 --> 00:20:36,560 Speaker 2: class inducted the headliners Dirk pal Tony Parker, d Wade Pop, 402 00:20:36,600 --> 00:20:39,199 Speaker 2: Becky Hammon. It was just, it was just it was 403 00:20:39,240 --> 00:20:41,960 Speaker 2: a wonderful moment I think for fans of a certain age, 404 00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:44,840 Speaker 2: especially for me, I was just like wow, Like in 405 00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:47,160 Speaker 2: a way, it didn't make me feel old. I felt 406 00:20:47,160 --> 00:20:49,520 Speaker 2: like proud of them, like as if I was like 407 00:20:49,800 --> 00:20:52,760 Speaker 2: some older sibling, like there you go. I'd love to 408 00:20:52,800 --> 00:20:57,240 Speaker 2: see it. There were some fantastic moments. There was a 409 00:20:57,280 --> 00:21:00,479 Speaker 2: moment in Dirk speech where he's just you know, handed 410 00:21:00,480 --> 00:21:04,320 Speaker 2: some some roses over to Steve Nash that I think 411 00:21:04,720 --> 00:21:07,320 Speaker 2: it was also fantastic because he did take that moment 412 00:21:07,359 --> 00:21:10,000 Speaker 2: to talk about their hairstyles. So let's let's hear from that. 413 00:21:11,280 --> 00:21:15,280 Speaker 4: Creativity is worth nothing without leadership. And the guy that 414 00:21:15,320 --> 00:21:18,760 Speaker 4: comes to my mind is my friend Steve. 415 00:21:22,400 --> 00:21:23,960 Speaker 3: I mean, it would been awkward if you said anyone 416 00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:26,280 Speaker 3: else because Steve Nash was sitting right there. 417 00:21:26,960 --> 00:21:29,200 Speaker 4: I think we came a long way from those two 418 00:21:29,200 --> 00:21:31,320 Speaker 4: brutal haircuts we saw there. You had. 419 00:21:32,800 --> 00:21:34,440 Speaker 3: The frosted tips. 420 00:21:34,080 --> 00:21:39,320 Speaker 4: You had, but you don't would have thought when we 421 00:21:39,440 --> 00:21:42,280 Speaker 4: first started play together that will be on the stage together. 422 00:21:42,400 --> 00:21:45,240 Speaker 4: That means the world to me. And you were a 423 00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:48,000 Speaker 4: great role model to me and and and the best 424 00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:51,000 Speaker 4: teammate ever had so you were always positive, you always 425 00:21:51,080 --> 00:21:53,840 Speaker 4: encouraged me. We worked our butts off at night, went 426 00:21:53,880 --> 00:21:57,000 Speaker 4: back to the gym. So and you became a friend 427 00:21:57,000 --> 00:21:58,480 Speaker 4: for life. So thank you, my friend. 428 00:22:01,080 --> 00:22:04,560 Speaker 2: Oh just watching two greats growing down like that. 429 00:22:05,160 --> 00:22:06,120 Speaker 5: I love a good prodown. 430 00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:09,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, Nash is very shiny these days. I've noticed that's 431 00:22:10,080 --> 00:22:10,800 Speaker 3: my one. 432 00:22:10,840 --> 00:22:15,640 Speaker 2: He's getting some sun you know, yeah, botox more soccer probably, 433 00:22:15,680 --> 00:22:17,040 Speaker 2: you know, just out there on the pitch. 434 00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:22,520 Speaker 3: Just did raise the question to me of like where 435 00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:26,280 Speaker 3: their haircuts, because their haircuts were pretty bad. Like Nash 436 00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:28,480 Speaker 3: when he first came into the league for a long 437 00:22:28,560 --> 00:22:31,080 Speaker 3: but part of his career, he had that like stringy 438 00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:34,280 Speaker 3: like guy who smokes weed on the soccer team, look, 439 00:22:34,560 --> 00:22:35,960 Speaker 3: you know, which was probably really two. 440 00:22:35,800 --> 00:22:40,960 Speaker 6: Thousands were rough rough time for male hairstyles. 441 00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:42,400 Speaker 2: I would say in general, totally. 442 00:22:42,080 --> 00:22:45,720 Speaker 6: A lot of swoopy side, you know, like long things 443 00:22:45,760 --> 00:22:49,600 Speaker 6: going on on, a lot of like skunky highlights and 444 00:22:49,720 --> 00:22:50,280 Speaker 6: dark hair. 445 00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:54,080 Speaker 5: There was like again frosted tips. To Dirk's point, there was. 446 00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:54,720 Speaker 5: It was rough. 447 00:22:54,800 --> 00:22:56,880 Speaker 2: It was a rough time, yet. 448 00:22:56,359 --> 00:22:58,840 Speaker 3: Like a middle part right like he looked like he 449 00:22:58,960 --> 00:23:01,479 Speaker 3: had the middle part Matthews band exactly. 450 00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:03,840 Speaker 2: And then Steve Nash looked like he was like a 451 00:23:03,960 --> 00:23:04,840 Speaker 2: Lance bast. 452 00:23:06,119 --> 00:23:08,800 Speaker 6: From long distance, you guys could see the photo we're 453 00:23:08,840 --> 00:23:13,000 Speaker 6: looking at right now. They looked like members of Backtory Boys. 454 00:23:13,119 --> 00:23:14,360 Speaker 6: And then that's not hyperbole. 455 00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:17,520 Speaker 2: They like the ones that didn't make it. Though, yeah, 456 00:23:18,359 --> 00:23:21,200 Speaker 2: I don't know about them too. Actually we actually. 457 00:23:20,880 --> 00:23:23,720 Speaker 6: Looked at like photos of like boy band members at 458 00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:25,760 Speaker 6: the time, though in retrospect, because they were some of 459 00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:28,280 Speaker 6: them are really like you were hot enough to be 460 00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:30,240 Speaker 6: in a boy band, like Chris kirk. 461 00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:35,000 Speaker 2: I think Chris Kirkpatrick, early Chris Kirkpatrick and sink that 462 00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:39,800 Speaker 2: guy like the heyday when he had like the weird 463 00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:46,080 Speaker 2: Oh Adamurwitz, come on, yeah, the ghast, the locked up 464 00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:47,680 Speaker 2: like Jamaican hair, come on now. 465 00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:51,800 Speaker 6: I remember reading an article like Waiting for the Dentist 466 00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:53,960 Speaker 6: Ones and like one of those tabloids about like all 467 00:23:54,040 --> 00:23:56,720 Speaker 6: the hot celebrity women that Adam Durretz has dated. 468 00:23:57,320 --> 00:23:58,200 Speaker 5: He got to give it up. 469 00:23:58,480 --> 00:23:59,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I mean, for. 470 00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:01,359 Speaker 5: The love of the game. He's just out here. 471 00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:04,879 Speaker 3: It's it's when you theoretical physicists are still trying to 472 00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:06,280 Speaker 3: explain what happened there they are. 473 00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:09,840 Speaker 6: Yeah, But then like my dating life as well, actually 474 00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:10,760 Speaker 6: they're still on the case. 475 00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:12,600 Speaker 2: A lot of white dudes with dreads. 476 00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:14,200 Speaker 5: Huh oh my god. 477 00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:19,520 Speaker 6: No, absolutely not absolutely not, absolutely not, not with a 478 00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:20,560 Speaker 6: ten foot poll, my friend. 479 00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:23,440 Speaker 2: But I mean, I guess speaking of some interesting haircuts, 480 00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:27,600 Speaker 2: oh say, speaking of your day. We've got someone on 481 00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:30,560 Speaker 2: the phone right now, Like, look at vlad Rad when 482 00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:31,280 Speaker 2: he was. 483 00:24:32,800 --> 00:24:37,360 Speaker 3: Where does this rank? Because there was some bad things happening. 484 00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:45,600 Speaker 6: That one is giving Uh yeah. 485 00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:48,080 Speaker 3: I had like tiny little braids. 486 00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:51,560 Speaker 6: All these references are aging me so hard, by the way, 487 00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:54,639 Speaker 6: like backstreet boys, and it's like, I'm not sensy. 488 00:24:56,040 --> 00:24:57,000 Speaker 5: I've outed myself. 489 00:24:57,200 --> 00:24:58,320 Speaker 2: I'm going to stir their back. 490 00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:01,520 Speaker 3: I still remember where I was the first time I 491 00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:06,040 Speaker 3: saw Andre Carolinko when he like stopped using gel like 492 00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:08,360 Speaker 3: he because he just went he was like straight drago 493 00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:11,520 Speaker 3: with like the spike for most of his career, and 494 00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:15,240 Speaker 3: then he like came back and his hair was like 495 00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:19,600 Speaker 3: very soft and like just feathery and. 496 00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:21,760 Speaker 5: Take that's kind of a look like I feel like 497 00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:22,720 Speaker 5: he looks like he could. 498 00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:26,159 Speaker 2: Be on this picture in this version. But at the 499 00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:28,119 Speaker 2: time I was like, what was he an oasis or 500 00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:30,760 Speaker 2: something like that? I don't very. 501 00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:33,879 Speaker 5: Gallagher so far, it's the best one. So not that 502 00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:35,360 Speaker 5: there's the competition, but. 503 00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:38,080 Speaker 3: First of this picture is not doing it justice because 504 00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:38,960 Speaker 3: right now, like this. 505 00:25:39,040 --> 00:25:41,560 Speaker 5: Picture or the goodness, like how bad it was. 506 00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:44,000 Speaker 3: How bad it was because he like had a fade 507 00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:46,960 Speaker 3: with a spike and then like one game he just 508 00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:50,479 Speaker 3: like his hair was just forward and it just for 509 00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:52,919 Speaker 3: for whatever reason, it was around the time that like 510 00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:55,919 Speaker 3: his game started like tapering off a little bit. I 511 00:25:55,920 --> 00:25:56,399 Speaker 3: feel like it. 512 00:25:56,520 --> 00:25:58,440 Speaker 6: Austin Reeves hair kind of looks like that right now. 513 00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:00,760 Speaker 6: Actually kind of grew it out for Team USA. 514 00:26:01,280 --> 00:26:04,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's definitely. Yeah, it's like it's it's like wave 515 00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:07,679 Speaker 2: he's wavy, dude, he's way he's in his wavy you 516 00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:09,320 Speaker 2: know era right now, I think, and. 517 00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:11,639 Speaker 6: You mean wavey is like a figurative term, not like 518 00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:12,480 Speaker 6: his hairs waiting. 519 00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:14,400 Speaker 2: No, yes, obviously I use that in like the young 520 00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:16,520 Speaker 2: kids version. Yea, oh he's wavy again. 521 00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:18,040 Speaker 5: I told you I'm a millennial. 522 00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:20,960 Speaker 2: I don't know, I don't know, I'm a geriatric millennial. 523 00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:23,240 Speaker 2: But I know how to fit in with them kids, 524 00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:26,280 Speaker 2: you know what I mean, fellow kids? Hello, Yeah, with 525 00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:29,359 Speaker 2: my music band T shirt. And then obviously you know, 526 00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:31,160 Speaker 2: like I mean, I hate to do this to our boy, 527 00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:36,600 Speaker 2: but late stage Caruso came him. Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. 528 00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:40,719 Speaker 2: It was even late stage. Chris Cayman was also a 529 00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:44,120 Speaker 2: very interesting hairstyle. But anyway, that was Let's get back 530 00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:46,639 Speaker 2: to another heartwarming moment. Dwayne Wade. 531 00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:50,399 Speaker 5: Oh my god, I literally cried. I cried my eyes. 532 00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:55,080 Speaker 2: Out too, but that's only because his dad's hairline is 533 00:26:55,119 --> 00:26:57,600 Speaker 2: so strong. I couldn't believe it. That's why I was 534 00:26:57,600 --> 00:27:00,000 Speaker 2: in tears. But also the father son dynamic was also touched. 535 00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:04,480 Speaker 7: We had the same exact dream and hairline, and we 536 00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:08,640 Speaker 7: carry the same exact name, Duane to our own way 537 00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:13,440 Speaker 7: to know, we hustle all the way to the Basketball 538 00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:18,359 Speaker 7: Hall of Fame. It's God's will. So Pops, I know 539 00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:21,840 Speaker 7: your knees a little sore, but will you join me 540 00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:26,800 Speaker 7: on stage as we take our rifle step into basketball heaven. 541 00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:33,720 Speaker 2: I mean, it's this next part. It's the next part for. 542 00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:45,000 Speaker 3: This one right here. This one is for my father. 543 00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:51,600 Speaker 7: I love you and I'm thankful for you. We're in 544 00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:52,840 Speaker 7: a Hall of Fame dollar. 545 00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:55,639 Speaker 5: Iconic. 546 00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:58,320 Speaker 6: Okay, this was so touching and moving that my mom, 547 00:27:58,359 --> 00:28:01,480 Speaker 6: who knows nothing about basketball and is on a completely 548 00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:05,240 Speaker 6: different part of Twitter like protected me and was like 549 00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:09,800 Speaker 6: who this was so beautiful, like and I'm like, yeah, mom, 550 00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:13,360 Speaker 6: that's Dwayne Wade. Literally Hall of Famer Dwayne Wade, as 551 00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:16,800 Speaker 6: evidenced by the video, one of the most famous shooting 552 00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:17,520 Speaker 6: guards of all time. 553 00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:20,119 Speaker 5: Oh my god, he doesn't give she doesn't give a 554 00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:21,240 Speaker 5: peep about what I do. 555 00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:24,560 Speaker 2: Oh well, like, yeah, I know it's what I do. 556 00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:27,720 Speaker 2: Oh sure, sure, but this father son relationship was really 557 00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:30,960 Speaker 2: something else. And then finally Becky Hammon, Dude, this was 558 00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:34,480 Speaker 2: another one where it was like in its minimalism made 559 00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:37,040 Speaker 2: it so touching when Becky Hammond is like, you know 560 00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:41,520 Speaker 2: the look on Pop's face was when when she's like, 561 00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:43,240 Speaker 2: I can't look at you, and even he was like 562 00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:47,040 Speaker 2: I can't even look at you right now either. It 563 00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:49,800 Speaker 2: was so beautiful. But here, let I let's let them 564 00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:50,760 Speaker 2: talk for themselves. 565 00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:53,400 Speaker 5: Pop, I'm not gonna look at you. 566 00:28:55,720 --> 00:29:00,240 Speaker 2: Oh that's that part. 567 00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:03,680 Speaker 3: Oh my god. 568 00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:07,040 Speaker 6: Being Pop get emotional is like the world is off 569 00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:08,800 Speaker 6: as access like it's just so intense. 570 00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:12,240 Speaker 2: If I was an actor, I'd use that to motivate 571 00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:15,680 Speaker 2: myself to cry and realize of principle and excellence. 572 00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:19,880 Speaker 6: I know you weren't trying to be courageous when you 573 00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:22,880 Speaker 6: hired me, but you did do something nobody else in 574 00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:27,920 Speaker 6: professional sports has ever done. 575 00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:29,000 Speaker 5: On her voice breaking touis she's trying to. 576 00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:33,920 Speaker 2: Get and yeah, she is such a like legend. 577 00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:37,280 Speaker 6: So tough to see them both get so emotional is 578 00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:39,840 Speaker 6: like I think part of it, Like I wonder if 579 00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:42,160 Speaker 6: someone who doesn't follow the NBA as closely as we do, 580 00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:44,200 Speaker 6: like watching that video, would be as moved by it, 581 00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:46,200 Speaker 6: because I think part of it is the context of like, 582 00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:50,880 Speaker 6: these are two of the toughest, most like unshakable, unmovable characters, 583 00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:53,360 Speaker 6: you know, Yeah, yeah, totally. 584 00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:56,040 Speaker 2: Pop especially because I mean, like I'm I'm like, can 585 00:29:56,080 --> 00:29:59,120 Speaker 2: he be my like parental figure? I like every time 586 00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:01,320 Speaker 2: he talks, like I can't, I hang on to every word, 587 00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:03,720 Speaker 2: and like, yeah, when you see something, when you see 588 00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:06,720 Speaker 2: him being moved, you can't help but understand how like 589 00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:09,480 Speaker 2: monumental that is, just like you're saying, in the context 590 00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:12,560 Speaker 2: of who they are and how typically like unflappable they are, 591 00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:15,479 Speaker 2: you know, mm hmm, Jack was which one which one 592 00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:17,160 Speaker 2: of those three got you the heart? 593 00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:21,760 Speaker 3: The Pop one was a lot, It was a lot. Yeah, 594 00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:25,120 Speaker 3: just like him looking down watching people like try not 595 00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:28,640 Speaker 3: to cry. Wow, Yeah, you know there's there's something about 596 00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:29,800 Speaker 3: that Lane. 597 00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:32,640 Speaker 6: Wade's dad who was trying not to cry. You could tell, yeh, 598 00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:41,600 Speaker 6: his bottle is on, just like ugly crying, gasping for breath. 599 00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:43,640 Speaker 2: Yeah. 600 00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:47,160 Speaker 3: Like usually what goes viral with Pop is him being 601 00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:50,120 Speaker 3: like is that really your question? That's really where you're 602 00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:50,480 Speaker 3: gonna go with? 603 00:30:50,720 --> 00:30:52,440 Speaker 5: Have you guys been an oppressor with him? 604 00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:53,120 Speaker 4: No? 605 00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:58,640 Speaker 3: Constantly? Yeah, yeah, never, We're not taken very seriously, We're pat. 606 00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:02,040 Speaker 6: I was in a press conference that he did last season, 607 00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:05,920 Speaker 6: and it was like super super super small because like 608 00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:08,560 Speaker 6: the I don't know, the visitors team press conference room 609 00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:11,680 Speaker 6: at Staples is actually quite small, like I'm sure it's 610 00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:13,480 Speaker 6: like the size of whatever rooms you guys are in 611 00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:17,280 Speaker 6: right now, respectively, like the little office. And everyone was 612 00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:20,800 Speaker 6: late to the press conference, so just me and one 613 00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:23,720 Speaker 6: other person were in there waiting for it to start, 614 00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:26,440 Speaker 6: and Pop was just like, so you guys got like 615 00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:28,840 Speaker 6: five questions each or whatever because like apparently no one 616 00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:30,640 Speaker 6: else is coming, and it's just like riffing, and I 617 00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:33,000 Speaker 6: was just like I am having a lucid experience, like 618 00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:35,479 Speaker 6: this is crazy, like top of it just like roasting 619 00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:38,360 Speaker 6: me right now, right, this is the best thing that's 620 00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:38,840 Speaker 6: ever happened. 621 00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:41,160 Speaker 2: Ah, yeah, I can I can only imagine I would. 622 00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:44,080 Speaker 2: I think I would, just like pop. There's a there's 623 00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:46,320 Speaker 2: a meme that we share, like on one of our 624 00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:48,120 Speaker 2: threads for another show we work on of a little 625 00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:52,320 Speaker 2: otter holding a guitar looking so happy. And I don't 626 00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:54,239 Speaker 2: know if that's really for nobody except Jack and some 627 00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:56,640 Speaker 2: of our friends, but I would have been the holding guitar. 628 00:31:57,000 --> 00:31:59,120 Speaker 2: Little do you know the otter holding the guitar? 629 00:31:59,200 --> 00:31:59,400 Speaker 3: Clear? 630 00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:01,239 Speaker 5: I don't think I do. 631 00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:05,560 Speaker 2: Oh it's this one. Must have, simply must this one. 632 00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:08,760 Speaker 6: Oh my, well, you guys have seen otters holding cans 633 00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:09,520 Speaker 6: right the video? 634 00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:12,240 Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, my favorite video of all time. 635 00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:16,560 Speaker 2: So that's my comfort video. Okay, so cute. 636 00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:19,160 Speaker 6: He's like, hey, I just I don't know if you're busy, 637 00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:20,880 Speaker 6: but I just dropped the guitar. 638 00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:23,360 Speaker 3: Right right, okay, just showed up at your house and 639 00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:25,280 Speaker 3: you were like, sorry, I don't have time to hang out. 640 00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:28,840 Speaker 3: She's like, oh, no, it's okay, we're good. 641 00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:32,440 Speaker 2: Shall we feast our eyes upon What the Bedding Crew 642 00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:34,880 Speaker 2: says about the performances of next season for the Pacific. 643 00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:36,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, the Pacific Division. 644 00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:40,160 Speaker 6: You know what I was thinking too when Jabari sent 645 00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:41,880 Speaker 6: me the kind of run down that we were going 646 00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:43,720 Speaker 6: to be talking about the Pacific Division. Do you guys 647 00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:46,920 Speaker 6: remember a band called, like a rap group called pak Div. 648 00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:49,000 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, of course, of course. 649 00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:52,200 Speaker 5: I was like, whatever happened to pac Div? Like they 650 00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:53,040 Speaker 5: were great? 651 00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:55,719 Speaker 6: I remember seeing them play at like a block party 652 00:32:56,040 --> 00:32:59,160 Speaker 6: in like probably twenty twelve or something. 653 00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:02,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know what happened. I mean it was 654 00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:05,840 Speaker 2: they had their yeah PACTV. Let us know. I mean 655 00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:08,600 Speaker 2: obviously being an LA kid, we were. We we loved 656 00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:09,640 Speaker 2: our pactiv out here. 657 00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:12,600 Speaker 3: The ones in this episode with the episode description for 658 00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:16,120 Speaker 3: this will probably light up there Google Google Alerts because 659 00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:19,120 Speaker 3: it'll stay on the pac dive. So come through, come through, Hi. 660 00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:21,800 Speaker 2: Who do you want to start with the Suns? 661 00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:27,240 Speaker 3: I mean this is a pretty stack division, but it 662 00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:29,400 Speaker 3: so so the Sons are where they have like the 663 00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:33,959 Speaker 3: most improvements happening. The last year they were forty five 664 00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:36,680 Speaker 3: and thirty seven. This year they have them they're over 665 00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:40,520 Speaker 3: under a fifty two and a half. That seems like 666 00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:40,920 Speaker 3: a lot. 667 00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:42,000 Speaker 2: That's a big jump. 668 00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:43,080 Speaker 3: That's a big jump. 669 00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:45,400 Speaker 2: I mean I guess they're looking at the. 670 00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:46,520 Speaker 3: Whole season with KD. 671 00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:50,640 Speaker 2: But right Beal coming in, you got you know, my 672 00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:54,240 Speaker 2: boy Utah coming in. We got big Frank in the building. 673 00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:56,920 Speaker 5: Well, you guys still got the thing. 674 00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:03,560 Speaker 3: I'm I think it like, I don't know. I feel 675 00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:07,520 Speaker 3: like it could go well, but it doesn't feel like 676 00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:08,920 Speaker 3: the safest move to me. 677 00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:12,640 Speaker 6: I'm confused by the faith that people keep because this 678 00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:15,920 Speaker 6: happened when I remember when it's like how quickly people forget. 679 00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:19,040 Speaker 6: But when the Katie trade first happened, even they were like, oh, 680 00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:21,080 Speaker 6: Sons are the favorites to come out of the West, 681 00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:24,359 Speaker 6: Like they could win the championship this year, even though 682 00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:27,400 Speaker 6: Katie got there and literally sprained his ankle, like before 683 00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:31,000 Speaker 6: he even played a game with them, and are a 684 00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:34,560 Speaker 6: home game, And I'm just like, have we not watched 685 00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:39,120 Speaker 6: this movie before? Like teams take time to build chemistry, 686 00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:42,799 Speaker 6: and it's about it's just as much about having some 687 00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:46,839 Speaker 6: depth as it is having like those couple of superstars, 688 00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:49,799 Speaker 6: Yes you do. You can't have one without the other, 689 00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:52,480 Speaker 6: Like you can't get to you can't get past the 690 00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:54,160 Speaker 6: first round of the playoffs without a superstar. 691 00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:55,040 Speaker 5: I really do. 692 00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:57,399 Speaker 6: Believe that, Like It doesn't have to be the best 693 00:34:57,400 --> 00:34:59,680 Speaker 6: player in the league, but you need at least one, 694 00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:03,520 Speaker 6: idea two superstars to make any kind of run in 695 00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:07,799 Speaker 6: the playoffs, because teams can they're giving you their best 696 00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:10,680 Speaker 6: their game planning against you. You have to have someone 697 00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:13,239 Speaker 6: who can just be like, when all of the plans disintegrate, 698 00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:14,920 Speaker 6: put the ball in their hands and they will just 699 00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:15,800 Speaker 6: make magic happen. 700 00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:17,200 Speaker 5: Like you need one of those players. 701 00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:21,839 Speaker 6: That being said, you also need a bench full of 702 00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:24,480 Speaker 6: role players who know their role, are willing to stick 703 00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:26,600 Speaker 6: to it and execute it and play defense and do 704 00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:28,960 Speaker 6: all the dirty work that the aforementioned superstar is not 705 00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:30,880 Speaker 6: going to have like the energy or space to do. 706 00:35:31,719 --> 00:35:34,320 Speaker 6: And I feel like teams keep just focusing on column 707 00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:37,759 Speaker 6: A and completely disregarding Colum B. But if you look 708 00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:40,680 Speaker 6: back through who the last two champions were, even in 709 00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:43,800 Speaker 6: just like the last four or five years, it's that formula, 710 00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:46,120 Speaker 6: Like I know, like I was, this was my biggest 711 00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:48,719 Speaker 6: palm with the Lakers. I was like rioting when they 712 00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:52,440 Speaker 6: traded for Russell Westbrook two years after their championship. So 713 00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:54,680 Speaker 6: I was like, even in the best case scenario of that, right, 714 00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:56,600 Speaker 6: even if Russ had like done what he said he 715 00:35:56,640 --> 00:35:58,640 Speaker 6: was going to do, which is like changed basically his 716 00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:01,200 Speaker 6: entire game to fit into the system with Lebron and 717 00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:04,120 Speaker 6: a D. You traded away all of what made you 718 00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:06,920 Speaker 6: win that championship, which is this like very deep bench 719 00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:09,560 Speaker 6: that was full of like very hard nosed defenders who 720 00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:11,359 Speaker 6: knew their role and were willing to. 721 00:36:11,320 --> 00:36:11,919 Speaker 5: Stick to it. 722 00:36:12,520 --> 00:36:15,279 Speaker 6: I worry about that with the Suns because I don't know, 723 00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:18,600 Speaker 6: like who on that team who are like the dirty 724 00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:20,520 Speaker 6: work players that are going to like show up for 725 00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:24,120 Speaker 6: you in the playoffs when you know, I know that 726 00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:27,239 Speaker 6: having feel Booker and Katie and not having to get 727 00:36:27,320 --> 00:36:30,400 Speaker 6: rid of eight and obviously is huge in that. I 728 00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:33,399 Speaker 6: just I don't personally, I'm not as threatened by them. 729 00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:35,359 Speaker 6: I wouldn't be as threatened by them. If I would say, 730 00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:37,920 Speaker 6: like the Nuggets or even like the Warriors of the 731 00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:40,600 Speaker 6: Lakers or whatever, as the rest of the league seems 732 00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:42,680 Speaker 6: to be. They're not heavy favorites to me. They're like 733 00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:44,479 Speaker 6: in the mix. They're for sure in the mix. 734 00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:47,200 Speaker 2: So you take in the under you think are going 735 00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:49,840 Speaker 2: to be two and a half and a half. 736 00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:52,440 Speaker 5: Oh no, I feel like they'll win fifty two and 737 00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:53,080 Speaker 5: a half games. 738 00:36:53,120 --> 00:36:56,399 Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess I was forgetting that they only hit 739 00:36:56,480 --> 00:37:00,920 Speaker 3: kat for half of the season. Yeah, they'll probably win. 740 00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:03,560 Speaker 6: That many I think they'll win that many games. But 741 00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:06,440 Speaker 6: my thing is, like to what end is more exactly? 742 00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:09,400 Speaker 3: I mean, this just made me realize how stacked the 743 00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:12,560 Speaker 3: Pacific Division is in terms of like how interesting it is. 744 00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:15,000 Speaker 3: Like the Warriors, they're over unders forty eight and a 745 00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:17,759 Speaker 3: half last year they won forty four. That's a lot 746 00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:22,799 Speaker 3: of improvement for just like adding Chris Paul Well. 747 00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:25,319 Speaker 6: But but Andrew Wiggins and stuff Curry both missed a 748 00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:28,640 Speaker 6: ton of time last year, right, so makes sense if 749 00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:29,640 Speaker 6: they're both healthy this. 750 00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:33,080 Speaker 5: Year, that's at least four more games I think. 751 00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:35,800 Speaker 3: Speaking of if they're both healthy this year, the Clippers 752 00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:39,600 Speaker 3: they have winning more three more games than last season. 753 00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:45,480 Speaker 3: Not what, like I'm confused by it on that, Yeah, why. 754 00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:48,280 Speaker 5: What the Clippers? Like who Who's mom? 755 00:37:48,480 --> 00:37:51,600 Speaker 6: The Clippers have like hiding in a closet somewhere like 756 00:37:51,719 --> 00:37:53,879 Speaker 6: that they can get the media to just predict they're 757 00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:56,560 Speaker 6: going to win the championship every single year, regardless of 758 00:37:56,560 --> 00:37:59,319 Speaker 6: the fact that like Kawhi Leonard and Paul George have 759 00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:02,120 Speaker 6: not both been healthy or either been healthy for like 760 00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:04,680 Speaker 6: any time, And like, what has it been now, like 761 00:38:05,239 --> 00:38:09,239 Speaker 6: five years that they've been there, have they done one 762 00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:12,640 Speaker 6: full complete postseason with both of them healthy? No, Like, 763 00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:16,040 Speaker 6: I just don't, I don't get it. I don't understand 764 00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:18,720 Speaker 6: what miracles they think are going to happen. I understand 765 00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:22,720 Speaker 6: that they both have an incredibly high steeling, especially Kawhi 766 00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:25,799 Speaker 6: when he's playing to the best of his capabilities, is 767 00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:27,680 Speaker 6: maybe the best player in the NBA. 768 00:38:27,560 --> 00:38:34,200 Speaker 5: Like incredible? Was he never? But that's it, And that's. 769 00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:35,920 Speaker 6: The Clippers experience to me in a nutshell, and the 770 00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:39,719 Speaker 6: Kawhi Leonard era is like flashes of greatness. But as 771 00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:42,520 Speaker 6: we know, flashes of greatness do not a championship mate 772 00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:44,880 Speaker 6: if you need someone you can depend on. And the 773 00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:48,399 Speaker 6: playoffs are so physical and they're so gritty, and they 774 00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:50,719 Speaker 6: you have to take so much physical contact as a 775 00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:54,239 Speaker 6: superstar in the playoffs. Like I mean, Kawhi is not 776 00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:57,839 Speaker 6: Lebron's age, but he's not in his twenties anymore. Like 777 00:38:57,920 --> 00:38:59,520 Speaker 6: I just I don't, I don't see it. And Paul 778 00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:03,360 Speaker 6: George's how many surgeries now and how many Like I 779 00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:05,080 Speaker 6: don't know, Yeah, I don't see it. 780 00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:08,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, it's like especially when like all your 781 00:39:09,040 --> 00:39:11,440 Speaker 2: all your hopes and dreams hinge on these two players, 782 00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:15,040 Speaker 2: like you're saying that just aren't gonna really appear when 783 00:39:15,040 --> 00:39:18,279 Speaker 2: the time is needed. So it's funny to watch, like yeah, yeah, 784 00:39:18,440 --> 00:39:21,360 Speaker 2: Like Clippers fans is being like sort of dejected. Have 785 00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:23,960 Speaker 2: one friend who's like, doesn't matter, they don't play. I'm 786 00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:26,799 Speaker 2: just embracing the chaos of whatever this season is gonna be. 787 00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:29,040 Speaker 2: And I'm like, oh, okay, so that's you're hopeful. And 788 00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:31,799 Speaker 2: they're like, well, yeah, maybe you like because you know 789 00:39:31,880 --> 00:39:35,400 Speaker 2: Russ has a good mindset. And I'm like, oh really, hey, okay, 790 00:39:35,520 --> 00:39:38,640 Speaker 2: well off you go, but off we go to Sacramento 791 00:39:38,680 --> 00:39:41,560 Speaker 2: to check out the Kings. They won forty eight last season. 792 00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:44,759 Speaker 2: They're saying forty four and a half right now. 793 00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:47,719 Speaker 3: So this is just basically as well as this team 794 00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:50,640 Speaker 3: can do, and there will be like a progression to 795 00:39:50,640 --> 00:39:53,160 Speaker 3: the mean yeah, because it doesn't it doesn't really make sense. 796 00:39:53,200 --> 00:39:56,239 Speaker 3: They have the same team coming back and they have 797 00:39:56,320 --> 00:39:59,240 Speaker 3: them losing or winning for fewer games. 798 00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:00,360 Speaker 5: I would hit the on that. 799 00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:02,320 Speaker 6: I mean, I understand they're in a really tough division. 800 00:40:02,440 --> 00:40:04,839 Speaker 6: I understand that, you know, like some of the other 801 00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:07,200 Speaker 6: teams are getting better, Like the Lakers will certainly win 802 00:40:07,239 --> 00:40:08,880 Speaker 6: more games this year than they did last year. 803 00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:11,040 Speaker 5: I don't think that's like spoiler alert. 804 00:40:11,080 --> 00:40:13,560 Speaker 6: I don't think that's like a huge prediction, But I 805 00:40:13,640 --> 00:40:17,040 Speaker 6: do think that, like as we bow the Nuggets, we 806 00:40:17,160 --> 00:40:19,920 Speaker 6: have a habit in the media and also as fans 807 00:40:20,239 --> 00:40:23,560 Speaker 6: getting really excited when big names go somewhere and expecting 808 00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:26,240 Speaker 6: that to be a huge impact on winning, and also 809 00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:30,239 Speaker 6: really underestimating teams that have continuity, that are balanced, that 810 00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:34,359 Speaker 6: have good coaching, and those teams do really well. And 811 00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:37,040 Speaker 6: one of those teams just won a freaking championship. So 812 00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:39,560 Speaker 6: I think that the Kings are absolutely going to go 813 00:40:39,680 --> 00:40:40,960 Speaker 6: over forty four games this year. 814 00:40:41,040 --> 00:40:43,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think Dearn Fox is going to go 815 00:40:43,680 --> 00:40:45,879 Speaker 2: up like nine levels this season too. 816 00:40:46,040 --> 00:40:47,440 Speaker 5: He was already so good. 817 00:40:47,719 --> 00:40:50,040 Speaker 6: And I mean, the Warriors had a lot of flaws 818 00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:51,959 Speaker 6: and we saw that obviously in the next round against 819 00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:54,080 Speaker 6: the Lakers, but they were the defending champs and they 820 00:40:54,280 --> 00:40:57,320 Speaker 6: looked for the most part really unafraid during that series. 821 00:40:57,520 --> 00:40:59,200 Speaker 6: And that was all of their first times being in 822 00:40:59,239 --> 00:41:02,719 Speaker 6: the playoffs. All the key players, yeah and deer In 823 00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:06,400 Speaker 6: foxbout toe to toe with stuff. Curry for seven games 824 00:41:06,560 --> 00:41:09,319 Speaker 6: and was amazing and through a hand injury, you know, 825 00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:11,960 Speaker 6: for part of it. So yeah, I absolutely think that 826 00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:13,759 Speaker 6: that's I think that's a little disrespectful. 827 00:41:13,800 --> 00:41:14,080 Speaker 5: Honestly. 828 00:41:14,160 --> 00:41:15,719 Speaker 2: Yeah, they are pretty good for the king I'm like, 829 00:41:15,840 --> 00:41:18,640 Speaker 2: I'm such like a like stealth Kings fan, like as 830 00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:21,200 Speaker 2: a Lakers fan, but I'm like, I really, I really 831 00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:22,239 Speaker 2: I wrote a. 832 00:41:22,239 --> 00:41:24,840 Speaker 6: Piece on them last year kind of breaking down like 833 00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:26,440 Speaker 6: how did they turn it around from being like the 834 00:41:26,520 --> 00:41:28,719 Speaker 6: laughing stock of the NBA to like one of like 835 00:41:28,840 --> 00:41:33,040 Speaker 6: the most exciting teams in the league, And they really 836 00:41:33,160 --> 00:41:35,520 Speaker 6: kind of just they have all of the components, like 837 00:41:35,560 --> 00:41:38,560 Speaker 6: all of the ingredients and a recipe that goes into 838 00:41:38,640 --> 00:41:41,520 Speaker 6: like most successful NBA franchise. They have a great coach, 839 00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:44,480 Speaker 6: they have a good balance of vets and young players. 840 00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:49,560 Speaker 6: They have an emerging superstar in Darren Fox. So yeah, 841 00:41:49,600 --> 00:41:51,200 Speaker 6: I have a lot of faith in them actually. 842 00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:56,200 Speaker 3: And lastly, yeah, lastly, this one's certainly not leastly we 843 00:41:56,239 --> 00:41:58,080 Speaker 3: agree the Lakers are gonna win more games than they 844 00:41:58,080 --> 00:42:02,120 Speaker 3: did last year. They have them forty seven and a 845 00:42:02,120 --> 00:42:05,359 Speaker 3: half like that, that's the overrun last year when they 846 00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:09,080 Speaker 3: spotted the rest of the league a twelve game head start, 847 00:42:09,840 --> 00:42:14,080 Speaker 3: they were forty three and thirty nine. Yeah, it's wild, 848 00:42:14,160 --> 00:42:16,839 Speaker 3: Like I know that. Sometimes I'll be I like look 849 00:42:16,880 --> 00:42:19,520 Speaker 3: at the last half of the previous season and be like, whoa, 850 00:42:19,560 --> 00:42:22,319 Speaker 3: they were amazing, Like the record was incredible during that, 851 00:42:22,440 --> 00:42:24,319 Speaker 3: Like so that's what they're going to be bringing into 852 00:42:24,320 --> 00:42:27,799 Speaker 3: this and like that rarely works out that way. But 853 00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:33,480 Speaker 3: this still feels low especially Yeah. Yeah, like this is 854 00:42:33,480 --> 00:42:36,120 Speaker 3: a public team, so it feels like, you know, it's 855 00:42:36,160 --> 00:42:39,320 Speaker 3: a team that like people bet on more so it's 856 00:42:39,360 --> 00:42:40,920 Speaker 3: wild that they're going so low on it. 857 00:42:41,160 --> 00:42:45,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, and all the moves like we're younger and bigger, 858 00:42:45,719 --> 00:42:48,839 Speaker 2: and I just it, Yeah, it's hard for me to see, 859 00:42:48,840 --> 00:42:50,600 Speaker 2: like you only think we're gonna go we're gonna win 860 00:42:50,680 --> 00:42:53,480 Speaker 2: four more games. But again again it's also like where 861 00:42:53,520 --> 00:42:55,719 Speaker 2: do what where do a D and Lebron fit into 862 00:42:55,719 --> 00:42:58,279 Speaker 2: all this too? And how how much how much can 863 00:42:58,280 --> 00:43:00,000 Speaker 2: we get out of those bodies this season? 864 00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:01,960 Speaker 6: Let me break down why I think that that's super 865 00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:03,960 Speaker 6: wrong and they're going to win substantially more games than 866 00:43:03,960 --> 00:43:07,480 Speaker 6: that creasing number one I do. I think if their 867 00:43:07,680 --> 00:43:12,200 Speaker 6: roster as currently constructed or as constructed during the playoffs, 868 00:43:12,320 --> 00:43:14,480 Speaker 6: was their roster all year. Last year, I think they 869 00:43:14,480 --> 00:43:16,480 Speaker 6: would have been like the four seeds in the West. 870 00:43:16,520 --> 00:43:18,960 Speaker 6: I think they were like the West was a pretty 871 00:43:18,960 --> 00:43:23,160 Speaker 6: weak conference last year all things considered, and you know, 872 00:43:23,320 --> 00:43:24,920 Speaker 6: I think that they were right up there with the 873 00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:27,759 Speaker 6: best teams in the West, and they were the best 874 00:43:27,760 --> 00:43:30,200 Speaker 6: team in the West as far as record goes after 875 00:43:30,239 --> 00:43:32,200 Speaker 6: the trade deadline. They won the most games in the 876 00:43:32,200 --> 00:43:34,799 Speaker 6: West after the trade deadline. So that's one thing. The 877 00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:37,920 Speaker 6: other thing is people forget Lebron and ad both missed 878 00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:39,919 Speaker 6: a lot of time last year, Like they were both 879 00:43:39,960 --> 00:43:44,760 Speaker 6: injured for a month plus each, So that win total 880 00:43:45,360 --> 00:43:48,880 Speaker 6: is considering a way worse roster and even factoring in 881 00:43:48,920 --> 00:43:50,919 Speaker 6: that safety net of like what if Lebron and ad 882 00:43:51,040 --> 00:43:53,560 Speaker 6: eight missed time? So I just don't unless one of 883 00:43:53,560 --> 00:43:55,560 Speaker 6: them misses the whole season, knock on wood, Like, I 884 00:43:55,640 --> 00:43:59,280 Speaker 6: just don't see a scenario in which them both missing 885 00:43:59,320 --> 00:44:02,320 Speaker 6: time and this roster being so much better. And also 886 00:44:02,360 --> 00:44:05,319 Speaker 6: Austin Reeves you know, taking another leap now in the 887 00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:08,080 Speaker 6: USA over the year. He's like he's looking like the 888 00:44:08,120 --> 00:44:10,120 Speaker 6: best player on the floor for Team USA right now 889 00:44:10,160 --> 00:44:12,319 Speaker 6: in a lot of these games. So I really don't 890 00:44:12,360 --> 00:44:15,760 Speaker 6: see I think their over enders should be at least 891 00:44:15,800 --> 00:44:19,160 Speaker 6: like on par with the rest of the good teams 892 00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:21,320 Speaker 6: in the West, maybe besides like the Nuggets. 893 00:44:21,360 --> 00:44:24,239 Speaker 2: But yeah, I mean, what how do you I mean 894 00:44:24,280 --> 00:44:27,760 Speaker 2: just looking at Lebron and you know, they like, where 895 00:44:27,800 --> 00:44:30,320 Speaker 2: do you see him? Like, what's this next iteration of 896 00:44:30,400 --> 00:44:32,040 Speaker 2: him We're going to see this season? How do you 897 00:44:32,040 --> 00:44:32,960 Speaker 2: see that coming together? 898 00:44:33,320 --> 00:44:35,839 Speaker 6: I mean, I think Lebron is aware that this is 899 00:44:36,200 --> 00:44:39,480 Speaker 6: I would say, I don't think it's like controversial to 900 00:44:39,520 --> 00:44:41,600 Speaker 6: say that this is the last chance that he has 901 00:44:41,760 --> 00:44:44,719 Speaker 6: to win a ring as at least as in the 902 00:44:44,800 --> 00:44:46,840 Speaker 6: role he currently has, which is like the first or 903 00:44:46,880 --> 00:44:48,600 Speaker 6: second best player on a team. I mean, I think 904 00:44:48,600 --> 00:44:51,680 Speaker 6: if there's any more rings in his career after this year, 905 00:44:52,200 --> 00:44:54,279 Speaker 6: it's probably going to be if he does the like 906 00:44:54,440 --> 00:44:58,120 Speaker 6: veteran leadership role on a team that's already really good 907 00:44:58,160 --> 00:45:00,520 Speaker 6: and takes like a smaller contract, which I just I 908 00:45:00,560 --> 00:45:02,879 Speaker 6: don't really see happening because I don't think he really 909 00:45:02,920 --> 00:45:04,759 Speaker 6: needs a ring bad enough to do that. I think 910 00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:07,480 Speaker 6: he'd rather just retire than kind of take on that role. 911 00:45:08,120 --> 00:45:09,960 Speaker 6: So I think he's aware that this is kind of 912 00:45:09,960 --> 00:45:12,040 Speaker 6: like his last real chance last year was I think 913 00:45:12,080 --> 00:45:14,640 Speaker 6: that's why he was so upset about what ended up 914 00:45:14,640 --> 00:45:16,759 Speaker 6: happening in the Western Conference Finals last year is that 915 00:45:16,840 --> 00:45:19,080 Speaker 6: last year was like they had a really good shot. 916 00:45:18,840 --> 00:45:20,920 Speaker 5: To win a championship. Against all odds. 917 00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:24,080 Speaker 6: Last year, they were right there with the Nuggets within 918 00:45:24,200 --> 00:45:29,000 Speaker 6: like probably like three to eight point differential for every game, 919 00:45:29,360 --> 00:45:31,319 Speaker 6: even though they got swept. I mean, I'm not trying 920 00:45:31,360 --> 00:45:33,719 Speaker 6: to say, like you know that there are like any 921 00:45:33,760 --> 00:45:36,360 Speaker 6: moral victories, but they were right there in those games. 922 00:45:36,360 --> 00:45:38,480 Speaker 6: And that was the conference finals, and you saw who 923 00:45:38,520 --> 00:45:40,120 Speaker 6: came out of the East. It was the Miami Heat. 924 00:45:40,160 --> 00:45:42,640 Speaker 6: It was an eight seeds. So like they really could have, 925 00:45:42,719 --> 00:45:45,040 Speaker 6: I think, potentially won a championship last year. And I 926 00:45:45,040 --> 00:45:48,000 Speaker 6: think he's that really upset him because he knows how 927 00:45:48,040 --> 00:45:49,520 Speaker 6: close he is to the end of his career and 928 00:45:49,560 --> 00:45:52,200 Speaker 6: how few chances he has like that left. So I 929 00:45:52,239 --> 00:45:54,480 Speaker 6: think this year, I think he's going to leave it 930 00:45:54,520 --> 00:45:55,959 Speaker 6: all on the floor. This year, I think he knows, 931 00:45:56,000 --> 00:45:57,680 Speaker 6: like this is the this is the chance. 932 00:45:58,080 --> 00:46:01,759 Speaker 3: You know, was that he the altitude was hurting him 933 00:46:01,800 --> 00:46:04,839 Speaker 3: because he's old and altitude hurts the I think he's 934 00:46:04,840 --> 00:46:07,359 Speaker 3: been spending the off season training at altitude. That would 935 00:46:07,400 --> 00:46:10,440 Speaker 3: be my guess, and for him next year. 936 00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:12,759 Speaker 6: I just made that up in some sort of altitude 937 00:46:12,840 --> 00:46:14,400 Speaker 6: chamber and so like a hyperbar. 938 00:46:15,280 --> 00:46:17,960 Speaker 5: If anybody have the pressure turned. 939 00:46:17,719 --> 00:46:21,120 Speaker 2: Up, right, that's his MJ lifting weights. After the Pistons 940 00:46:21,120 --> 00:46:27,759 Speaker 2: gave that business look, he was like, yeah, he's oh 941 00:46:27,920 --> 00:46:29,760 Speaker 2: and I got some for you over there in Detroit. 942 00:46:30,160 --> 00:46:32,840 Speaker 2: But yeah, I'm I'm. It was a little bit difficult 943 00:46:32,840 --> 00:46:36,759 Speaker 2: to watch him become look more mortal, uh, towards the 944 00:46:36,840 --> 00:46:39,160 Speaker 2: end of the last season. But but again, I know 945 00:46:39,239 --> 00:46:43,600 Speaker 2: how how much talent and ability is contained within him. 946 00:46:43,960 --> 00:46:46,480 Speaker 2: So like I'm again, I think like last year, I 947 00:46:46,520 --> 00:46:48,680 Speaker 2: was even like, hey we put number eighteen up even 948 00:46:48,680 --> 00:46:51,040 Speaker 2: with the Russells for klin Of, I'll always go into 949 00:46:51,080 --> 00:46:54,960 Speaker 2: the season with that kind of disturbed confidence. But I 950 00:46:55,160 --> 00:46:58,799 Speaker 2: I really would like, but this was a time when 951 00:46:58,800 --> 00:47:01,360 Speaker 2: I'm like, okay, I want like I'm really Lebron, like 952 00:47:01,560 --> 00:47:03,560 Speaker 2: let me see, let me see you get smarter, and 953 00:47:03,640 --> 00:47:05,800 Speaker 2: just like give it, give it, give it to us now, 954 00:47:05,920 --> 00:47:07,000 Speaker 2: because this is the time. 955 00:47:07,040 --> 00:47:10,200 Speaker 5: I mean, that first half of Game four was I 956 00:47:10,280 --> 00:47:10,560 Speaker 5: was there. 957 00:47:10,600 --> 00:47:12,520 Speaker 6: I was at that game, and like that was one 958 00:47:12,560 --> 00:47:15,880 Speaker 6: of the craziest things I've seen in person, like in 959 00:47:15,920 --> 00:47:19,440 Speaker 6: a basketball game. Was what he did in the first 960 00:47:19,440 --> 00:47:23,399 Speaker 6: half of that elimination game, like he wanted that one 961 00:47:23,640 --> 00:47:27,840 Speaker 6: so bad, and if literally anyone else on the Lakers 962 00:47:27,920 --> 00:47:31,400 Speaker 6: roster had showed up in that game in any meaningful 963 00:47:31,400 --> 00:47:33,520 Speaker 6: way on the stat sheeet, they would have won that game. 964 00:47:33,800 --> 00:47:36,560 Speaker 5: Like it was right there, you know. So I think 965 00:47:36,600 --> 00:47:36,920 Speaker 5: it was. 966 00:47:37,080 --> 00:47:39,439 Speaker 3: It was so much closer than it would seem based 967 00:47:39,480 --> 00:47:40,919 Speaker 3: on the fact that it was a sweep. 968 00:47:40,760 --> 00:47:41,399 Speaker 2: I know. I yeh. 969 00:47:41,440 --> 00:47:43,240 Speaker 6: That's the thing is, That's why I say, I understand 970 00:47:43,280 --> 00:47:45,920 Speaker 6: that there's no moral victories, but I do feel like 971 00:47:46,200 --> 00:47:48,239 Speaker 6: it wasn't a sweep in the sense of like it 972 00:47:48,320 --> 00:47:51,080 Speaker 6: was usually a sweep. When you watch a sleep you're like, Okay, 973 00:47:51,160 --> 00:47:53,400 Speaker 6: one of these teams is clearly world better than the 974 00:47:53,440 --> 00:47:56,400 Speaker 6: other one and it's not close, and like, let's just 975 00:47:56,480 --> 00:47:59,319 Speaker 6: put them out of their misery in four games and 976 00:47:59,360 --> 00:48:02,200 Speaker 6: move on. This was like two teams that were I 977 00:48:02,200 --> 00:48:05,120 Speaker 6: think quite close and how good they were, and I 978 00:48:05,160 --> 00:48:09,400 Speaker 6: think basically the difference was the bench, Like the difference 979 00:48:09,600 --> 00:48:12,680 Speaker 6: was I think the Nuggets just had more to get 980 00:48:12,719 --> 00:48:15,040 Speaker 6: them over the hunk when it came to those like 981 00:48:15,280 --> 00:48:19,040 Speaker 6: single possession moments at the end of the games, and 982 00:48:19,080 --> 00:48:21,680 Speaker 6: they had people like KCP showing up, and they had 983 00:48:21,680 --> 00:48:24,520 Speaker 6: people like Michael Porter Junior, Aaron Gordon one game, like 984 00:48:24,800 --> 00:48:27,000 Speaker 6: each of their role players had one game that was 985 00:48:27,040 --> 00:48:27,800 Speaker 6: like their game. 986 00:48:28,320 --> 00:48:28,919 Speaker 5: They had that. 987 00:48:29,160 --> 00:48:31,120 Speaker 6: The Lakers actually had more of that, I think in 988 00:48:31,160 --> 00:48:32,440 Speaker 6: the series against the Warriors. 989 00:48:32,440 --> 00:48:34,640 Speaker 5: But like you had the Lonnie Walker game, you had. 990 00:48:34,520 --> 00:48:38,000 Speaker 2: The fourth quarter, I know exactly, and like. 991 00:48:37,960 --> 00:48:41,160 Speaker 6: The Quorterer game four that was pretty cool that he's 992 00:48:41,200 --> 00:48:42,560 Speaker 6: going to have to frame a whole bunch of things 993 00:48:42,560 --> 00:48:45,000 Speaker 6: from that game. But yeah, so I think I think 994 00:48:45,040 --> 00:48:50,280 Speaker 6: the Lakers made marginal improvements to their bench, and they 995 00:48:50,520 --> 00:48:53,160 Speaker 6: you know, still maintained the I would say, the three 996 00:48:53,200 --> 00:48:57,480 Speaker 6: most important players if they had last off season, and 997 00:48:57,560 --> 00:48:59,759 Speaker 6: so I don't see any reason why they don't have 998 00:48:59,840 --> 00:49:01,600 Speaker 6: just bit of a shot this year. And I don't 999 00:49:01,600 --> 00:49:05,759 Speaker 6: think Lebron is aging so precipitously that like him being 1000 00:49:05,800 --> 00:49:07,680 Speaker 6: a year older is going to make or break them. 1001 00:49:07,719 --> 00:49:10,240 Speaker 6: I think what they need is they need Anthony Davis 1002 00:49:10,280 --> 00:49:13,640 Speaker 6: to be like the player who has the Warriors series 1003 00:49:14,040 --> 00:49:15,240 Speaker 6: in the Western Conference finals. 1004 00:49:15,280 --> 00:49:17,439 Speaker 2: All right, well it's time for us to take one 1005 00:49:17,440 --> 00:49:19,520 Speaker 2: more break, and we're going to come back with the 1006 00:49:19,640 --> 00:49:33,920 Speaker 2: rapid fire round of questioning right after this and we're back. 1007 00:49:35,840 --> 00:49:39,839 Speaker 3: Oh Claire Claire time. 1008 00:49:40,400 --> 00:49:43,600 Speaker 2: Wow, you are now in the firmly in the find 1009 00:49:43,640 --> 00:49:47,160 Speaker 2: out phase of being a guest on this podcast, because 1010 00:49:47,200 --> 00:49:49,680 Speaker 2: it is time for the rapid fire round of questioning. 1011 00:49:49,760 --> 00:49:52,000 Speaker 2: This is the fastest question and answer segment in all 1012 00:49:52,040 --> 00:49:53,480 Speaker 2: of sports podcasting history. 1013 00:49:53,960 --> 00:49:56,840 Speaker 6: Okay, and I've trained all my life for this moment. 1014 00:49:57,719 --> 00:49:59,840 Speaker 2: We know we're going to chest pass you a question. 1015 00:50:00,320 --> 00:50:02,040 Speaker 2: Just send it right back, all right. 1016 00:50:02,239 --> 00:50:06,480 Speaker 3: New York had On. Take your Minnesota hat off. Yeah exactly, yeah, exactly. 1017 00:50:06,520 --> 00:50:10,480 Speaker 3: I'm walking here, just thinking, walking here. That's the kind 1018 00:50:10,480 --> 00:50:10,759 Speaker 3: of end. 1019 00:50:11,239 --> 00:50:15,839 Speaker 2: I'm walking in. All right, So here we go. Uh 1020 00:50:15,880 --> 00:50:18,719 Speaker 2: and also, if one of us start talking, you have 1021 00:50:18,760 --> 00:50:20,719 Speaker 2: to cut us off and keep this segment going because 1022 00:50:20,760 --> 00:50:23,040 Speaker 2: we do want to maintain our status as a very 1023 00:50:23,080 --> 00:50:25,760 Speaker 2: fast paid segment. Okay, all right, Yeah, we're. 1024 00:50:25,600 --> 00:50:28,440 Speaker 3: Not really good at being fast, so we just really 1025 00:50:28,520 --> 00:50:29,640 Speaker 3: lean on you. 1026 00:50:29,760 --> 00:50:32,839 Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, true men. Yeah, we're going to rely on 1027 00:50:32,960 --> 00:50:35,560 Speaker 2: the labor of a woman to help us achieve what 1028 00:50:35,640 --> 00:50:41,120 Speaker 2: we need to. Here we go, Brian, start. 1029 00:50:40,880 --> 00:50:41,680 Speaker 6: The clock. 1030 00:50:42,920 --> 00:50:45,560 Speaker 2: You want to go for It's very slow. 1031 00:50:47,600 --> 00:50:48,839 Speaker 3: I gotta get myself pumped up. 1032 00:50:49,640 --> 00:50:51,520 Speaker 2: We're just we're getting in the blocks. 1033 00:50:51,280 --> 00:50:55,040 Speaker 5: Okay, yeah, like here wait go wait, hold on? Who's 1034 00:50:55,360 --> 00:50:55,959 Speaker 5: the first question? 1035 00:50:56,320 --> 00:50:58,520 Speaker 3: All right? You want me to go? You want to go? 1036 00:50:59,719 --> 00:51:00,640 Speaker 2: Who last time? 1037 00:51:00,680 --> 00:51:04,239 Speaker 3: Did I ask that I forget? M here I'll go 1038 00:51:04,320 --> 00:51:04,719 Speaker 3: this time? 1039 00:51:04,840 --> 00:51:07,960 Speaker 2: Okay, okay, yeah yeah, but remember for the next episode, 1040 00:51:07,960 --> 00:51:08,759 Speaker 2: I'm gonna go first though. 1041 00:51:08,800 --> 00:51:12,280 Speaker 3: Okay, that's how well remember because that'll be an even 1042 00:51:12,360 --> 00:51:17,440 Speaker 3: day and exactly Okay, cool all right Claire. ESPN recently 1043 00:51:17,480 --> 00:51:19,640 Speaker 3: decided to rework their NBA crew, with Jeff Van Gundy 1044 00:51:19,640 --> 00:51:22,560 Speaker 3: and Mark Jackson being let go after covering fifteen NBA 1045 00:51:22,640 --> 00:51:25,239 Speaker 3: finals alongside Mike Breen. What is your dream in game 1046 00:51:25,280 --> 00:51:26,360 Speaker 3: commentary team? 1047 00:51:26,480 --> 00:51:27,040 Speaker 5: Oh? 1048 00:51:27,120 --> 00:51:30,440 Speaker 6: I mean, uh, Doris and Mark Jones, who's already in 1049 00:51:30,520 --> 00:51:31,480 Speaker 6: game commentary team? 1050 00:51:31,520 --> 00:51:33,080 Speaker 5: But just give bring them up? 1051 00:51:33,520 --> 00:51:34,200 Speaker 2: M okay? 1052 00:51:34,239 --> 00:51:34,600 Speaker 3: Okay? 1053 00:51:34,640 --> 00:51:37,200 Speaker 2: Any wild cards like people that you would are not 1054 00:51:37,840 --> 00:51:40,919 Speaker 2: currently on. If if you could just say, I want 1055 00:51:40,920 --> 00:51:43,640 Speaker 2: to hear these three people go off and giving me 1056 00:51:43,680 --> 00:51:47,280 Speaker 2: my in game for your maximum entertainment? Who are those people? 1057 00:51:47,960 --> 00:51:48,560 Speaker 5: Chase Erano? 1058 00:51:49,880 --> 00:51:55,279 Speaker 2: Yeah me, okay, okay, that was one of our last 1059 00:51:55,280 --> 00:51:55,920 Speaker 2: guest answers. 1060 00:51:55,960 --> 00:52:04,080 Speaker 6: Also, uh, I don't know I fail this game. Thompson, Oh, 1061 00:52:04,239 --> 00:52:06,000 Speaker 6: that would be fun, He's so funny. 1062 00:52:06,080 --> 00:52:10,640 Speaker 2: Whether without the captain's hat. Okay, all right, good to know, 1063 00:52:10,680 --> 00:52:14,319 Speaker 2: good to know. Here we go, Claire. What is your 1064 00:52:14,760 --> 00:52:19,200 Speaker 2: absolutely most bold prediction for the upcoming NBA season? Like 1065 00:52:19,239 --> 00:52:22,600 Speaker 2: I want you to swing for the just the pavilion 1066 00:52:22,600 --> 00:52:23,480 Speaker 2: at Dodger Stadium. 1067 00:52:23,719 --> 00:52:27,200 Speaker 3: The word bold is both bolded and in all caps 1068 00:52:27,480 --> 00:52:33,480 Speaker 3: and italicized if that's help, and the italics are from 1069 00:52:33,520 --> 00:52:34,000 Speaker 3: how fast? 1070 00:52:34,040 --> 00:52:36,840 Speaker 2: The word is like, put your reputation on the line 1071 00:52:37,200 --> 00:52:40,879 Speaker 2: with something so bold and it can be funny. Don't worry. 1072 00:52:40,880 --> 00:52:42,080 Speaker 2: You know what's going to hold you to this? 1073 00:52:42,280 --> 00:52:42,960 Speaker 5: No, I know. 1074 00:52:44,400 --> 00:52:46,680 Speaker 3: It is coming off the letters to. 1075 00:52:47,239 --> 00:52:49,200 Speaker 6: When you're on, when you're on the spot, it is harder. 1076 00:52:49,600 --> 00:52:52,160 Speaker 6: That's just making a noise, like most. 1077 00:52:53,560 --> 00:52:58,120 Speaker 5: Prediction female head. 1078 00:52:59,480 --> 00:53:01,200 Speaker 2: Oh coming in this season? 1079 00:53:01,280 --> 00:53:03,440 Speaker 5: Okay this season? 1080 00:53:03,680 --> 00:53:08,319 Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, might yeah boom not funny, just true, Yeah, 1081 00:53:08,440 --> 00:53:11,120 Speaker 2: just true. That's let's do I like that needed all right. 1082 00:53:11,160 --> 00:53:14,160 Speaker 3: I'm giving you an option here, Okay, which offseason move 1083 00:53:14,239 --> 00:53:18,439 Speaker 3: will actually have the greatest impact or which team will 1084 00:53:18,440 --> 00:53:22,160 Speaker 3: have the biggest win change, increase or decrease. We're not 1085 00:53:22,160 --> 00:53:24,920 Speaker 3: allowed to say the seventy six ers because that's me. 1086 00:53:25,600 --> 00:53:27,960 Speaker 3: That's mean, and I don't know if my heart can 1087 00:53:28,000 --> 00:53:30,040 Speaker 3: take it medically. 1088 00:53:30,120 --> 00:53:31,640 Speaker 5: Oh, maybe this should have been my hottest teak. 1089 00:53:32,400 --> 00:53:35,520 Speaker 6: I think when the Miami Heat get Damian the Lollard, 1090 00:53:35,520 --> 00:53:37,600 Speaker 6: because I think they will get Damian the Loard when 1091 00:53:37,640 --> 00:53:39,880 Speaker 6: they get him, I think they could win the championship 1092 00:53:39,880 --> 00:53:40,879 Speaker 6: next year, and I think they will. 1093 00:53:40,960 --> 00:53:41,480 Speaker 5: Let's just say it. 1094 00:53:41,520 --> 00:53:42,719 Speaker 6: I think the Miami Heat are going to win the 1095 00:53:42,760 --> 00:53:44,880 Speaker 6: championship year with Damian Lillard. 1096 00:53:45,120 --> 00:53:46,799 Speaker 5: Wow. 1097 00:53:46,680 --> 00:53:50,439 Speaker 2: Now, what is it about Damian Lillard exactly that has 1098 00:53:50,480 --> 00:53:50,839 Speaker 2: you saying? 1099 00:53:52,760 --> 00:53:53,800 Speaker 5: I think Dame's a winner. 1100 00:53:53,960 --> 00:53:56,000 Speaker 6: I think he's a winner who's been in a non 1101 00:53:56,080 --> 00:53:58,920 Speaker 6: winning scenario. And I think that the Miami Heat are 1102 00:53:58,960 --> 00:54:01,880 Speaker 6: the perfect team for him because I think he does 1103 00:54:02,120 --> 00:54:04,440 Speaker 6: He's a Heat player. He's much like Jimmy Butler was 1104 00:54:04,480 --> 00:54:07,239 Speaker 6: a Heat player playing for non Heat franchises. I think 1105 00:54:07,360 --> 00:54:08,480 Speaker 6: Damian Lillard is the same. 1106 00:54:08,520 --> 00:54:08,719 Speaker 5: I think. 1107 00:54:08,760 --> 00:54:10,520 Speaker 2: Okay, more on that later, Claire, we have to keep 1108 00:54:10,520 --> 00:54:14,759 Speaker 2: this segment going. It's not your actually told me to 1109 00:54:14,760 --> 00:54:17,600 Speaker 2: be fast. Sorry, but what's the best NBA city in 1110 00:54:17,680 --> 00:54:20,160 Speaker 2: terms of food choices? And what's your go to meal 1111 00:54:20,200 --> 00:54:21,520 Speaker 2: when you're in that NBA city? 1112 00:54:21,800 --> 00:54:22,080 Speaker 3: Oh? 1113 00:54:22,280 --> 00:54:27,160 Speaker 6: I mean New Orleans is the best US city? 1114 00:54:25,080 --> 00:54:28,839 Speaker 2: And when you're there, what are you eating. 1115 00:54:30,560 --> 00:54:33,800 Speaker 6: I mean literally, just like anything. Food in New Orleans 1116 00:54:33,800 --> 00:54:35,799 Speaker 6: is so freaking good. I know that's a cop out, 1117 00:54:35,840 --> 00:54:37,719 Speaker 6: but just eat anything and it's good. 1118 00:54:37,760 --> 00:54:38,520 Speaker 5: You could eat. 1119 00:54:38,320 --> 00:54:41,879 Speaker 6: Like like cheap street food, you could eat fancy fine 1120 00:54:41,920 --> 00:54:42,960 Speaker 6: dining like food. 1121 00:54:42,719 --> 00:54:45,960 Speaker 2: And New Orleans, or maybe I would. 1122 00:54:45,719 --> 00:54:48,880 Speaker 6: Say seafood of some kind and something extremely spicy, something 1123 00:54:48,880 --> 00:54:51,719 Speaker 6: that's gonna like light your mouth on fire. 1124 00:54:51,960 --> 00:54:55,480 Speaker 2: Okay, fried pickles too, also, but I feel like fried 1125 00:54:55,520 --> 00:54:57,000 Speaker 2: pickles are everywhere when I go down there and I 1126 00:54:57,040 --> 00:55:01,319 Speaker 2: can't stop eating them. Whose fault is this? Oh, it's 1127 00:55:01,360 --> 00:55:02,440 Speaker 2: ours Jack, Next. 1128 00:55:02,280 --> 00:55:05,120 Speaker 3: Question, h finally, the most important question of the night 1129 00:55:05,840 --> 00:55:11,319 Speaker 3: with Jack or Miles. Please the fifth Oh, that is 1130 00:55:11,400 --> 00:55:13,680 Speaker 3: unfortunately not allowed. You are in the court of law 1131 00:55:13,840 --> 00:55:16,719 Speaker 3: of the rapid fire segment of questioning you. 1132 00:55:17,400 --> 00:55:18,879 Speaker 5: I'm gonna go with the die hard Lakers fan. 1133 00:55:18,800 --> 00:55:22,479 Speaker 3: Then, come on, Yeah, that's cool. 1134 00:55:22,600 --> 00:55:24,359 Speaker 2: That's why I put my Jones. That's why I put 1135 00:55:24,360 --> 00:55:25,319 Speaker 2: my Eddie Jones up. 1136 00:55:25,480 --> 00:55:27,319 Speaker 5: La Baby, I'm about to go to a Dodgers game 1137 00:55:27,360 --> 00:55:27,799 Speaker 5: right after this. 1138 00:55:27,920 --> 00:55:30,080 Speaker 2: Hey, you know what time it is? Okay, thank you 1139 00:55:30,200 --> 00:55:32,080 Speaker 2: so much. You are one of the. 1140 00:55:34,280 --> 00:55:36,680 Speaker 6: Saddest That was the saddest little thing, and you're just 1141 00:55:36,719 --> 00:55:40,560 Speaker 6: like quietly dejectedly to yourself, like I also live in La. 1142 00:55:41,440 --> 00:55:42,080 Speaker 3: No, that's cool. 1143 00:55:42,200 --> 00:55:44,759 Speaker 6: Yeah, but wait, what the podcast audience can't see is 1144 00:55:44,800 --> 00:55:48,560 Speaker 6: that Miles, this whole entire like set up, everything is 1145 00:55:48,719 --> 00:55:53,480 Speaker 6: LA all day, like Lakers Jersey, Dodger's hat just he's 1146 00:55:53,520 --> 00:55:57,440 Speaker 6: really leaning in and a Lebron Lakers jersey. Oh, I 1147 00:55:57,480 --> 00:55:59,720 Speaker 6: mean a d He's got them. 1148 00:55:59,560 --> 00:56:01,920 Speaker 2: All with the with the with the patch, you know 1149 00:56:01,960 --> 00:56:02,279 Speaker 2: what I mean. 1150 00:56:04,560 --> 00:56:06,839 Speaker 3: Lakers. It was like, I don't think this guy's good. 1151 00:56:07,120 --> 00:56:10,400 Speaker 2: You're like, that is true. That's how much of a 1152 00:56:10,480 --> 00:56:12,040 Speaker 2: Laker fan I wasn't like, what's he going to do 1153 00:56:12,080 --> 00:56:12,440 Speaker 2: for us? 1154 00:56:12,520 --> 00:56:13,000 Speaker 5: You know what I mean? 1155 00:56:13,120 --> 00:56:13,840 Speaker 3: That's true? 1156 00:56:14,120 --> 00:56:17,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, And then you go there and you're like, anyway, 1157 00:56:17,840 --> 00:56:19,160 Speaker 2: thank you guys so much. 1158 00:56:20,840 --> 00:56:24,319 Speaker 5: Sometimes okay can change for answer? Is it too late? 1159 00:56:26,320 --> 00:56:29,000 Speaker 2: But hey, make sure you follow us on Twitter. I'm 1160 00:56:29,200 --> 00:56:31,040 Speaker 2: at Miles of Gray Jack where you at? 1161 00:56:31,280 --> 00:56:33,520 Speaker 3: I'm at Jack Underscore, Oh, Brian. 1162 00:56:34,120 --> 00:56:37,000 Speaker 2: Follow us up just hashtag mad Boosty's b w ST 1163 00:56:37,160 --> 00:56:40,120 Speaker 2: I e s for show links updates and that Claire, 1164 00:56:40,160 --> 00:56:42,520 Speaker 2: where can people find you and check you out? Including 1165 00:56:42,600 --> 00:56:43,719 Speaker 2: your your music and all that? 1166 00:56:44,320 --> 00:56:44,480 Speaker 7: Well? 1167 00:56:44,520 --> 00:56:49,560 Speaker 6: I'm also on Twitter at Claire mpls from my Minneapolis 1168 00:56:49,640 --> 00:56:52,680 Speaker 6: days and I write for the Guardians, so you can 1169 00:56:52,760 --> 00:56:54,880 Speaker 6: check out my work and writing about the NBA on 1170 00:56:54,920 --> 00:56:58,440 Speaker 6: the Guardians website. And then my music project is called 1171 00:56:58,480 --> 00:57:01,359 Speaker 6: Tiny Death and I have a new single coming out 1172 00:57:01,960 --> 00:57:03,479 Speaker 6: August fifth, at the end of this month. 1173 00:57:04,080 --> 00:57:08,040 Speaker 2: He well, we look forward to that. Boosty's listeners, please 1174 00:57:08,120 --> 00:57:10,919 Speaker 2: make sure you check that out. And uh, you know what, 1175 00:57:10,960 --> 00:57:13,680 Speaker 2: We're gonna be back next week with another episode because 1176 00:57:13,719 --> 00:57:14,520 Speaker 2: that's what we do. 1177 00:57:14,760 --> 00:57:17,240 Speaker 3: Maybe that's what happened. Maybe Darryl Moury is so excited 1178 00:57:17,280 --> 00:57:21,240 Speaker 3: about the Tiny Death's new drop that he just took 1179 00:57:21,240 --> 00:57:24,520 Speaker 3: his eye off the ball. Maybe on Twitter one. 1180 00:57:24,560 --> 00:57:26,800 Speaker 6: So with my vinyl like at the seventy six ers 1181 00:57:26,800 --> 00:57:27,640 Speaker 6: practice facility. 1182 00:57:27,720 --> 00:57:30,320 Speaker 3: Cool, wow, whoa, Okay, that's. 1183 00:57:32,320 --> 00:57:37,040 Speaker 2: Wow. Well another fantastic legendary guest with legendary connections me 1184 00:57:37,160 --> 00:57:40,160 Speaker 2: so much, not not really. Yeah, you got to, you 1185 00:57:40,240 --> 00:57:42,080 Speaker 2: got to, But we'll see you next time. 1186 00:57:42,440 --> 00:57:47,680 Speaker 3: Bye bye,