WEBVTT - Three Best Friends 0:00:03.320 --> 0:00:07.880 Hey, everybody, welcome to the podcast here. And Shotenfreuda, well 0:00:07.880 --> 0:00:11.080 apparently I don't even know what that means. Please explain that, 0:00:11.200 --> 0:00:14.520 you all. There's been so much that's been happening before 0:00:14.680 --> 0:00:19.439 we hit record on this this episode, and shiden Freuda 0:00:19.680 --> 0:00:21.360 was the last thing we hit on. Is that right? 0:00:21.400 --> 0:00:24.520 Shotten with freude. I'm not really good shot in Florida. 0:00:24.600 --> 0:00:27.800 I'm so bad at pronouncing German words. But my dad 0:00:27.960 --> 0:00:29.960 was explaining it to me, as was my daughter who 0:00:30.040 --> 0:00:32.839 is in Germany right now. But it's a word that 0:00:33.040 --> 0:00:35.879 we actually don't have an equivalent for here in the 0:00:35.960 --> 0:00:41.560 United States. Who out there has laughed at someone else falling? 0:00:42.040 --> 0:00:43.839 That's the best way for me to describe it. So 0:00:43.920 --> 0:00:47.040 you're taking some sort of okay, everyone raised their hands, yes, okay, please, 0:00:47.040 --> 0:00:47.880 thank you, joined the club. 0:00:48.040 --> 0:00:52.159 Can come on, everybody. There are whole YouTube videos that 0:00:52.240 --> 0:00:55.880 go for an hour at points just showing people fall 0:00:56.080 --> 0:00:58.200 because we laugh at that for some reason. 0:00:58.240 --> 0:01:00.040 And the reason why we know that is because we 0:01:00.240 --> 0:01:03.600 have watched many of those YouTube I think it's called fails. 0:01:03.800 --> 0:01:08.119 That's not us, that's Sabine's. Sabine Holmes is completely responsible 0:01:08.120 --> 0:01:10.240 for this. She's eleven years old and kids with an 0:01:10.240 --> 0:01:13.479 iPhone they sit up and they just watch YouTube all day. 0:01:13.520 --> 0:01:13.720 Yep. 0:01:14.120 --> 0:01:17.480 Oh, God's no. But this is one time that YouTube 0:01:17.480 --> 0:01:18.200 paid off for us. 0:01:18.319 --> 0:01:22.080 Yes, So we have been for whatever reason in this 0:01:22.160 --> 0:01:25.400 past year. How many times have we seen people falling 0:01:25.480 --> 0:01:27.560 around us? I had? 0:01:27.680 --> 0:01:30.080 Has anybody seen the movie Radius? Okay, it's a horror movie. 0:01:30.120 --> 0:01:33.200 You haven't seen it. It's called Radius, and this guy 0:01:33.560 --> 0:01:37.319 essentially has a radius around him to where anybody comes 0:01:37.319 --> 0:01:41.039 in that radius, they die right at the premise. Okay, 0:01:41.120 --> 0:01:44.400 so it's a fascinating movie to watch. But I argue 0:01:44.440 --> 0:01:46.880 that I have a radius around me when it comes 0:01:46.880 --> 0:01:50.240 to people falling, and if you're around me within about 0:01:50.400 --> 0:01:53.160 ten to twenty feet, it's a good chance you might 0:01:53.400 --> 0:01:54.160 fall fall. 0:01:54.200 --> 0:01:56.800 I can confirm that because when I'm walking next to you, 0:01:57.080 --> 0:02:00.760 I cannot I'm like, this statistically cannot get possible. How 0:02:00.800 --> 0:02:04.080 many times? And then you feel bad because we actually 0:02:04.080 --> 0:02:06.760 have to separate and walk away because we don't want 0:02:06.800 --> 0:02:08.919 I don't want anyone to see me laughing at them falling. 0:02:09.040 --> 0:02:12.079 I mean, they're okay, they're hurt. It's just comical. It's 0:02:12.080 --> 0:02:14.639 like physical comedy, like The Three Stooges. Kind of stuff. 0:02:15.000 --> 0:02:17.880 We have to walk in opposite directions almost run because 0:02:17.919 --> 0:02:19.639 we're laughing or tears are coming out of our eyes, 0:02:19.680 --> 0:02:22.040 and I and we can't be together because it's even funnier. 0:02:22.120 --> 0:02:23.520 I'm thinking about some of them now and I got 0:02:23.600 --> 0:02:26.080 tears and I'm wiping in my eyes because the funniest 0:02:26.080 --> 0:02:28.720 some of the bunnies want. Okay, when one person takes 0:02:28.760 --> 0:02:31.880 out the other, that was the best. Oh wow, yes. 0:02:31.919 --> 0:02:34.520 But then when kids fall out of the strollers, they're 0:02:34.560 --> 0:02:36.640 not strapped in plant. 0:02:37.080 --> 0:02:38.919 They bounced though they have a lot of cartilage, a 0:02:38.960 --> 0:02:41.440 lot of baby fat. Didn't see anyone crying even but 0:02:41.480 --> 0:02:43.280 we that's happened twice in front of us. 0:02:43.320 --> 0:02:46.519 Okay, y'all look in judgment right now. Yeah, okay, okay, 0:02:46.520 --> 0:02:47.400 you'll know what I'm saying. 0:02:47.639 --> 0:02:50.480 And then runners, runners, we had so many runners just 0:02:50.680 --> 0:02:54.040 like bite bite the dust. Like when we're running and 0:02:54.360 --> 0:02:56.840 we're you know, you're oh, skiing. I was explaining this 0:02:56.880 --> 0:02:58.919 to you. You don't ski. One of the. 0:02:58.880 --> 0:03:01.480 Hardest things would have ever thought. I don't ski. 0:03:02.440 --> 0:03:06.800 But when you're skiing and someone has some like unbelievable 0:03:07.000 --> 0:03:09.240 crash in front of you, I have to pull off 0:03:09.280 --> 0:03:11.160 to the side and stop because I start laughing so 0:03:11.200 --> 0:03:12.360 hard I then fall. 0:03:13.000 --> 0:03:14.919 That's not the stuff we're talking about. Stuff we see 0:03:14.960 --> 0:03:17.760 is regular walking down the street where people should not 0:03:18.120 --> 0:03:19.160 be biting it. 0:03:19.200 --> 0:03:20.840 And then they always look back like, what, how did 0:03:20.840 --> 0:03:21.240 that happen? 0:03:22.080 --> 0:03:23.880 Wow? What's wrong with this sidewalk? 0:03:24.320 --> 0:03:27.239 No? I slipped on a banana peel the other day. 0:03:27.480 --> 0:03:31.200 That actually happened. I told you I took a picture 0:03:31.200 --> 0:03:33.280 of it because I knew you wouldn't believe me. It's 0:03:33.320 --> 0:03:36.640 so ridiculously it's only in a cartoon. 0:03:36.680 --> 0:03:37.680 Would you see that happen? 0:03:37.960 --> 0:03:40.880 But I slipped and almost fell. I also turned around 0:03:40.880 --> 0:03:43.160 and said what was that? And it actually was a 0:03:43.160 --> 0:03:45.080 banana peel? And I had to proof. 0:03:45.440 --> 0:03:46.760 Do you sent me a picture? You send me a 0:03:46.760 --> 0:03:47.520 picture of a banana? 0:03:47.600 --> 0:03:49.080 It was a fresh banana? 0:03:49.120 --> 0:03:51.840 People, okay fresh now now you're going fresh? 0:03:53.720 --> 0:03:56.760 Okay, brand new banana? Puel media. It was ready to 0:03:56.840 --> 0:04:03.680 slide anyway. They there's a German word basically that says 0:04:03.720 --> 0:04:07.000 you take pleasure in something that maybe you shouldn't. 0:04:07.160 --> 0:04:09.360 But that's where I got in with the back and point. 0:04:09.400 --> 0:04:12.160 I just asked you, hey, send the ask your dad, 0:04:12.720 --> 0:04:15.560 because I want to understand what the translation. What there's 0:04:15.560 --> 0:04:18.760 a difference in Florida shot in Freuda. There's a difference 0:04:18.760 --> 0:04:23.240 in taking like comical seeing somebody trip versus taking pleasure 0:04:23.400 --> 0:04:26.400 in someone else's demise or their pain. And I was 0:04:26.440 --> 0:04:29.400 trying to separate what this word. I think that's evil. 0:04:29.839 --> 0:04:31.760 I think that's evil. We do have a word for 0:04:31.800 --> 0:04:35.440 that in this language in English. Right, that's evil, That's mean. 0:04:36.240 --> 0:04:37.120 This is more like. 0:04:37.200 --> 0:04:39.560 Just come on, this is human nature. There is something 0:04:39.920 --> 0:04:43.679 in all of us that sometimes thinks it's funny when 0:04:43.800 --> 0:04:48.680 someone or something falls, or there's just some I mean 0:04:48.680 --> 0:04:51.200 maybe someone could that's that's my takeaway from it. But 0:04:51.320 --> 0:04:53.760 it's just this funny thing when you have other languages 0:04:53.800 --> 0:04:57.400 that have words that we don't have in English. 0:04:57.839 --> 0:04:59.960 Anyway, that's just one of It's a great word. 0:05:00.040 --> 0:05:01.080 Who sent it? Was at your day? 0:05:01.160 --> 0:05:01.719 I sent that? 0:05:01.800 --> 0:05:04.480 Okay? Did he explain why he sent you directly to 0:05:04.560 --> 0:05:05.359 voicemail when you go? 0:05:05.640 --> 0:05:08.560 I don't know. But obviously he's busy, the retired man 0:05:08.600 --> 0:05:10.840 that he is, was too busy to take my phone call. 0:05:10.880 --> 0:05:12.320 I mean, would. 0:05:13.480 --> 0:05:15.000 Break the voicemail. 0:05:15.760 --> 0:05:21.320 Dad got else? You just took a shot at your dad, 0:05:21.320 --> 0:05:22.320 you know I did? 0:05:22.520 --> 0:05:23.480 All right? Okay? He knows. 0:05:23.520 --> 0:05:25.560 I love him, you know what, but he does his 0:05:25.760 --> 0:05:28.280 uh the charity work, delivers the meals, right, oh. 0:05:28.200 --> 0:05:30.680 He do you know what? That what he's doing? He 0:05:30.720 --> 0:05:33.400 does meals on wheels. And remember I tried to call 0:05:33.480 --> 0:05:35.560 him the other day and he didn't answer. I kept 0:05:35.600 --> 0:05:38.760 calling back and finally he was like, Ames, I'm delivering food, 0:05:39.200 --> 0:05:41.360 meals on wheels. I'm like, oh, I'm sorry, I. 0:05:41.279 --> 0:05:43.799 Don't have time with your shot and froud oh whatever 0:05:43.800 --> 0:05:44.160 it is. 0:05:46.240 --> 0:05:48.360 But yeah, you're right, he might be doing charity work. 0:05:48.360 --> 0:05:51.560 Now now i'd go offul I'm not taking Yeah, that's tough. 0:05:51.640 --> 0:05:53.560 Okay. So all this was that out again. We didn't 0:05:53.560 --> 0:05:55.240 know how we were going to start this, but that 0:05:55.440 --> 0:05:57.280 we were talking about that before we started. The other 0:05:57.279 --> 0:06:02.159 thing was therapy. That look, we've talked about here, like 0:06:02.400 --> 0:06:04.760 you have not been shy about I haven't done a 0:06:04.800 --> 0:06:08.599 lot of therapy over the years, but like, what is 0:06:09.600 --> 0:06:12.839 the right way? What serves And it might be individual, 0:06:12.839 --> 0:06:16.240 but what serves somebody better to read a book or 0:06:16.279 --> 0:06:18.839 to go sit and pay three hundred dollars an hour 0:06:19.040 --> 0:06:22.640 to have someone like you were arguing, validating, Like there's 0:06:22.720 --> 0:06:25.040 no question I think therapy has been beneficial to a 0:06:25.080 --> 0:06:26.839 lot of people. But we were talking about it at 0:06:26.880 --> 0:06:30.320 the same time what our experiences are and our guest 0:06:30.360 --> 0:06:32.520 today is we were talking about this with her because she 0:06:32.560 --> 0:06:35.280 has dealt with some therapy as well, like what is 0:06:35.880 --> 0:06:38.159 the way or what has worked for you or worked 0:06:38.200 --> 0:06:41.560 for us in terms of reading a book from Michael 0:06:41.640 --> 0:06:46.360 Singer or else somebody. I'm forgetting Ekartole versus and then 0:06:46.400 --> 0:06:49.440 putting that stuff into practicing your everyday life versus of 0:06:49.560 --> 0:06:51.160 session a week, a session every two weeks. 0:06:51.400 --> 0:06:54.520 It's interesting because I think maybe it's it's a combination. 0:06:54.640 --> 0:06:58.200 I mean, Gabby Bernstein, Michael Singer, Ekartole, all these people 0:06:58.240 --> 0:07:00.839 I really credit with helping me through some of the 0:07:00.880 --> 0:07:03.320 toughest times in my life. I reread them, I listened 0:07:03.320 --> 0:07:06.040 to them in audiobooks, I listened to their podcast. I mean, 0:07:06.040 --> 0:07:08.400 they really do have insightful things to say that apply 0:07:08.520 --> 0:07:10.960 to everyone. This is about how we as humans can 0:07:11.000 --> 0:07:13.800 become Ego lists is basically what it is. It's about, 0:07:13.880 --> 0:07:15.880 you know, thinking instead of what am I not getting, 0:07:15.960 --> 0:07:18.360 it's what am I not giving? And that's the general concept. 0:07:18.360 --> 0:07:21.160 So I think those are amazing things to You're laughing 0:07:21.200 --> 0:07:23.120 at me because you say, I start getting all Michael 0:07:23.200 --> 0:07:28.040 Singer on you. Fine, whatever, but there be Oh why 0:07:28.080 --> 0:07:31.560 are you laughing? Yeah, that's not why you're laughing. 0:07:32.040 --> 0:07:33.480 Oh my god, we need therapy. 0:07:33.680 --> 0:07:36.360 Oh god, why are you laughing? 0:07:37.080 --> 0:07:41.280 Because you went into it. But I'm thinking about fine, 0:07:41.600 --> 0:07:44.480 I'm thinking about Saturday, okay. 0:07:45.400 --> 0:07:46.600 Because I didn't apply it. 0:07:46.840 --> 0:07:47.680 Yes, that's the thing. 0:07:47.840 --> 0:07:51.720 I know what to do, and then when the moment 0:07:52.080 --> 0:07:56.400 happens where I can make a decision, I'm not in 0:07:56.440 --> 0:07:58.440 that state of mind where I'm aware. So sometimes I 0:07:58.480 --> 0:08:01.920 actually made a little video diary for myself yesterday to 0:08:02.000 --> 0:08:04.920 remind myself, and every day I want to remind myself. 0:08:04.920 --> 0:08:06.840 That's why people meditate. I think that's why people do 0:08:06.880 --> 0:08:09.280 a lot of things. They journal, but just we all 0:08:09.320 --> 0:08:12.400 need to reset. The ego is so powerful, and if 0:08:12.440 --> 0:08:17.680 you don't continually remind yourself that that is actually your enemy, 0:08:17.760 --> 0:08:20.360 then you can slip into it because that is human 0:08:20.440 --> 0:08:23.840 nature to protect and to defend. But that's what creates 0:08:23.960 --> 0:08:26.400 most of the problems that you have in any relationship 0:08:26.400 --> 0:08:28.720 you have with anyone or even with yourself. And so 0:08:28.800 --> 0:08:31.800 it's like I was trying to tell myself positive thoughts 0:08:32.320 --> 0:08:35.079 and let it go. Let it go. You don't have 0:08:35.160 --> 0:08:37.319 to hold onto things. I'm not I wasn't gonna think, 0:08:37.320 --> 0:08:40.400 I was gonna think. But therapy to answer your question, 0:08:41.160 --> 0:08:44.719 I think can be really helpful when you are in 0:08:44.760 --> 0:08:48.520 a crisis and when you need help. And I have 0:08:48.679 --> 0:08:52.480 been there when I when the books and the podcasts 0:08:53.080 --> 0:08:57.160 and what I know intellectually I can't put into practice 0:08:57.200 --> 0:09:01.000 because I'm so far you know, in a downward spiral, 0:09:01.080 --> 0:09:03.280 I can't get out and so so crisis. 0:09:03.080 --> 0:09:05.240 When you need help, you what is your thought then? 0:09:05.280 --> 0:09:09.440 On what I hear from people oftentimes is that you, yes, 0:09:09.520 --> 0:09:12.040 crisis and you need help, is fine, but you need 0:09:12.120 --> 0:09:14.600 regular checkups to where you need to go once a week, 0:09:14.640 --> 0:09:17.959 twice a week or whatever, mean once every two weeks 0:09:18.120 --> 0:09:20.360 or what it may be. Well that there's an argument 0:09:20.400 --> 0:09:23.560 there that we do use it too much for a 0:09:23.679 --> 0:09:26.080 crisis instead of as a regular checkup. 0:09:26.200 --> 0:09:28.520 I mean, I think it's such a personal individual thing 0:09:28.559 --> 0:09:31.360 and if it works for you, that's great. I have 0:09:31.480 --> 0:09:33.120 had so much. 0:09:33.000 --> 0:09:35.960 Therapy over the last fifteen years it's absurd. 0:09:36.240 --> 0:09:38.160 I don't even want to know how much money I've spent, 0:09:38.520 --> 0:09:40.480 but at least I feel like I spent it towards 0:09:40.600 --> 0:09:43.080 something that was going to make me better. 0:09:43.360 --> 0:09:45.720 Yes, Scott, thank goodness you spent that money, because I 0:09:45.760 --> 0:09:53.240 am the beneficiary of all Oh my god, I am 0:09:53.280 --> 0:09:56.160 the beneficiary of all that money spent. 0:09:56.240 --> 0:09:59.400 It's a work in Progressjay, it's a work in progress. 0:10:00.200 --> 0:10:03.320 Uh yeah, but today we do have And folks have 0:10:03.440 --> 0:10:07.640 heard plenty of times on this podcast even but over 0:10:07.679 --> 0:10:10.600 the years, if they follow you on social media, people 0:10:10.640 --> 0:10:14.800 have heard the name Nikki a whole lot. Nicky, Nicky, Nicki, 0:10:14.840 --> 0:10:18.040 Nicki Nikki. And you hear so much about Nikki because 0:10:18.080 --> 0:10:20.680 Nikki is the best You have been your best friend eight. 0:10:20.600 --> 0:10:23.400 Years, yeah, eight, maybe even more. 0:10:23.240 --> 0:10:27.400 Maybe even more. But Nikki, I let you. We're gonna 0:10:27.440 --> 0:10:29.720 introduce her. She's sitting here with us in there Heart Studios, 0:10:29.720 --> 0:10:32.040 and she's somebody we are obviously has been a delight 0:10:32.120 --> 0:10:34.160 to us and has served us so well in so 0:10:34.240 --> 0:10:39.600 many ways. But I want you before don't do an introduction, Okay, 0:10:39.880 --> 0:10:45.040 I would really like for you to describe your relationship 0:10:45.040 --> 0:10:47.880 with her. Don't don't introduce her. She's this, and she's that, 0:10:47.920 --> 0:10:50.480 she's a textan Filipino and that we get into all that, 0:10:51.160 --> 0:10:53.640 but what she is to. 0:10:53.640 --> 0:10:56.320 You, she is my rock. 0:10:57.640 --> 0:10:59.800 She is the person I turned to when I'm in 0:11:00.040 --> 0:11:03.760 isis beetn emotional. I don't think I could have made 0:11:03.800 --> 0:11:07.600 it through last year without her. She is that person 0:11:07.600 --> 0:11:11.839 who is always there. I can count on her for 0:11:11.960 --> 0:11:14.959 anything and everything. If it's two am, if it's two pm, 0:11:15.440 --> 0:11:20.559 wherever she is, she would drop anything and everything because 0:11:20.600 --> 0:11:26.280 she is like the warmest, sweetest, kindest, most selfless person 0:11:26.320 --> 0:11:28.480 I've ever met. And I actually feel like I don't 0:11:28.480 --> 0:11:30.400 deserve her as a friend, that's how good of a 0:11:30.440 --> 0:11:35.480 person she is. And she is just I call her 0:11:35.679 --> 0:11:41.520 Yoda because she's so wise and she's hilariously doesn't know 0:11:41.600 --> 0:11:47.280 basic stuff sometimes, like she didn't know what a fern was. Well, 0:11:47.320 --> 0:11:49.120 I don't know why that sticks out of my mind, 0:11:49.520 --> 0:11:53.480 but there's a funny story there, because it's just like 0:11:53.559 --> 0:11:56.240 silly stuff like that. She'll ask like what's that? Like 0:11:56.280 --> 0:11:59.000 are you kidding me right now? But she will be 0:11:59.160 --> 0:12:02.520 so wise and have so much insight to things that 0:12:02.720 --> 0:12:06.000 just blow your mind. And when I need to be grounded, 0:12:06.080 --> 0:12:08.559 or I need to get perspective, or I just need 0:12:08.600 --> 0:12:13.920 a friend, she is the person that I am so 0:12:14.000 --> 0:12:16.200 grateful to be able to turn to because she's just 0:12:16.800 --> 0:12:17.960 I call her a unicorn. 0:12:18.040 --> 0:12:20.120 Yoda and unicorn, those are the two things I call. 0:12:20.559 --> 0:12:23.240 Wow, we have listeners who we have to leave this 0:12:23.280 --> 0:12:26.640 to your imagination. So put Yoda and a unicorn together. 0:12:26.720 --> 0:12:30.679 That's nicky, and that's uh, that's a Yoda unicorn baby, 0:12:30.679 --> 0:12:32.880 and that's nicky. And get that in your mind. And 0:12:32.920 --> 0:12:34.520 you know it's funny you call a Yoda because she 0:12:34.600 --> 0:12:35.320 is about his height. 0:12:35.480 --> 0:12:35.680 Yep. 0:12:35.760 --> 0:12:39.640 She is not an insult, not an insult. She gets it. 0:12:40.040 --> 0:12:41.760 She's four foot eleven. 0:12:41.960 --> 0:12:42.200 Yep. 0:12:44.000 --> 0:12:47.480 And at this point, you again, you introduced me to her, 0:12:48.360 --> 0:12:52.319 and she has been around with me the entire time 0:12:52.360 --> 0:12:55.280 I've known you. But she's known essentially Samine her entire life. 0:12:55.360 --> 0:12:57.960 Yeah. I think's known you is almost as long as 0:12:58.000 --> 0:12:59.200 she's known me. Yeah. 0:12:59.400 --> 0:13:02.520 But it's fun now that we sit here and that 0:13:02.800 --> 0:13:06.240 my little one that she's known since one a year old, 0:13:06.240 --> 0:13:09.560 literally a year old, Sabina is not taller than she is. 0:13:09.679 --> 0:13:10.439 That's so funny. 0:13:10.559 --> 0:13:14.240 That's wild. So folks, a lot of folks out there 0:13:14.280 --> 0:13:16.520 have called her and looked and they've asked you, what 0:13:16.679 --> 0:13:19.959 is she your? Have you adopted her? Yep? Is she 0:13:20.040 --> 0:13:20.720 are you related? 0:13:20.880 --> 0:13:21.040 Yep? 0:13:21.679 --> 0:13:23.000 What else have they? 0:13:22.600 --> 0:13:25.680 They they asked if she's my daughter, which was a 0:13:25.760 --> 0:13:29.360 kind of offensive, but okay, offensive because I'm not old 0:13:29.440 --> 0:13:31.680 enough to be her mom. She's a forty year old woman. 0:13:31.679 --> 0:13:36.840 Oh okay, so what does that say about me? Sorry anyway, 0:13:37.080 --> 0:13:39.120 but she looks so young to be fair, that's true. 0:13:39.160 --> 0:13:44.080 That's true. And also they've also questioned, are platonic or not? 0:13:44.520 --> 0:13:46.400 Like there's been a question as to whether or not 0:13:46.800 --> 0:13:49.520 we have a more than platonic relationship. 0:13:49.360 --> 0:13:50.320 You Oh yes. 0:13:51.000 --> 0:13:54.200 People have absolutely raised their eyebrows and said, what's going 0:13:54.240 --> 0:13:54.840 on with you too? 0:13:54.840 --> 0:13:55.400 Do you answer? 0:13:55.960 --> 0:13:57.760 I was like, are you kidding me right now? 0:13:58.280 --> 0:14:03.360 That's not a so I no, obviously, I know. 0:14:06.320 --> 0:14:15.600 Absolutely speaking Okay, everybody like, can I talk? 0:14:17.200 --> 0:14:20.720 We I've also gotten assistant. People have many people have 0:14:20.800 --> 0:14:24.520 asked if I've am your assistant? I've gotten everything. So 0:14:24.640 --> 0:14:27.880 because I did live with you upstate during quarantine. First 0:14:27.880 --> 0:14:29.840 of all, Also, just real quick, thank you guys for 0:14:30.000 --> 0:14:35.760 having me. I'm very nervous right now. Team then I 0:14:35.840 --> 0:14:37.880 feel very calm here at peace. 0:14:38.120 --> 0:14:40.160 Yay. Well, I was gonna say it's Nikki a spina, 0:14:40.320 --> 0:14:43.800 but hilariously, because of what you look like on Instagram, 0:14:43.880 --> 0:14:45.440 your handle people call you Nike. 0:14:45.920 --> 0:14:50.040 Yeah, so my handle is actually Nick Espina. And y'all's 0:14:50.080 --> 0:14:52.320 first podcast. Actually, when you call you, when you said 0:14:52.360 --> 0:14:55.600 my name Nikki, I got a few d MS saying 0:14:55.800 --> 0:14:59.280 I always thought your name was Nike, Nike Spina, and 0:14:59.400 --> 0:15:02.080 so many people wing and saying I thought the same thing. 0:15:02.320 --> 0:15:08.600 So because of y'all's podcast, it's NICKI, it's Nicole Denise Espina, 0:15:08.640 --> 0:15:09.520 and I go by Niki. 0:15:10.320 --> 0:15:14.840 Yes, so you are still no, no at all, no, 0:15:14.960 --> 0:15:15.680 no at all No. 0:15:15.840 --> 0:15:18.200 There's like maybe two people that ever called me. 0:15:18.280 --> 0:15:30.240 To Cole, I asked her to describe her relationship with you. 0:15:30.360 --> 0:15:33.080 I'll do the same. You describe your relationship with this one. 0:15:33.280 --> 0:15:34.000 Oh my goodness. 0:15:34.120 --> 0:15:35.880 Well, first of all, I had to like look away 0:15:35.960 --> 0:15:38.240 when you introduced me because you started tearing up. And 0:15:38.320 --> 0:15:41.360 when she cries, I cry, and everyone in here already knows. 0:15:41.400 --> 0:15:44.240 I'm pretty nervous because there are certain people that belong 0:15:44.320 --> 0:15:46.680 on camera or in front of a microphone. I'm not 0:15:46.840 --> 0:15:48.640 one of those people. I get nervous. I get like 0:15:48.880 --> 0:15:51.560 very shy, and I'm just like I was actually just 0:15:51.680 --> 0:15:54.240 texting with Anna, your youngest, and I was like, she 0:15:54.360 --> 0:15:55.080 was talking me through this. 0:15:55.200 --> 0:15:56.720 She was like, just be yourself, Nikki. 0:15:57.960 --> 0:15:59.880 So the same thing with Anna and Ave of course, 0:16:00.120 --> 0:16:02.440 like I've seen Sabine grow up. 0:16:02.600 --> 0:16:06.960 But even I'm calling bulls. See you right now, people, Okay, 0:16:07.080 --> 0:16:09.680 see you right now. You are lean back in the chair, 0:16:09.800 --> 0:16:12.320 more comfortable than you're one of us. Yeah, you're holding 0:16:12.400 --> 0:16:14.760 your microphone as if you're about to be a playlist 0:16:15.960 --> 0:16:18.160 or something. Right, they can stop. 0:16:18.400 --> 0:16:20.480 Oh my goodness, it's because of your amazing team that 0:16:20.560 --> 0:16:23.320 are making me feel very comfortable and y'all, of course 0:16:23.360 --> 0:16:25.920 I feel I'm with my family now. So but my 0:16:26.040 --> 0:16:28.440 heart is beating like crazy right now. But so I 0:16:28.600 --> 0:16:31.720 to look away because you were crying. And we actually 0:16:31.920 --> 0:16:35.600 spent like two hours on the phone yesterday bawling her 0:16:35.640 --> 0:16:38.120 eyes out, just talking about life and not even like 0:16:38.200 --> 0:16:42.360 bad tears, but good tears. But back to the question, See, 0:16:42.400 --> 0:16:47.200 some people really just don't fly like I digress. Sorry, Amy, 0:16:47.600 --> 0:16:53.160 She is my rock, her and her family, her and 0:16:53.240 --> 0:16:56.440 her two girls. I swear they are my family. They 0:16:56.480 --> 0:17:00.080 are my chosen family. I love my actual family, and 0:17:00.120 --> 0:17:02.040 I very much love my chosen family. You guys have 0:17:02.200 --> 0:17:05.280 been with me for eight years. I definitely want to 0:17:05.320 --> 0:17:07.240 get into the story of how we met, because that 0:17:07.359 --> 0:17:11.159 is actually one of the biggest questions I get. But 0:17:11.320 --> 0:17:14.240 first I just want to talk about us, like just 0:17:14.320 --> 0:17:16.440 so many people. I was just telling my boyfriend this 0:17:16.560 --> 0:17:19.600 the other day, that so many people wish that they 0:17:19.680 --> 0:17:21.600 had such close friendships. And I'm thinking, as a forty 0:17:21.640 --> 0:17:24.120 year old woman now, who just I turn forty in December, 0:17:24.880 --> 0:17:28.240 so many people would kill for such a close friendship. 0:17:28.680 --> 0:17:28.800 Right. 0:17:29.000 --> 0:17:30.800 It's to the point that people question it in a sense. 0:17:30.880 --> 0:17:34.280 But it's literally like we go through college and your 0:17:34.320 --> 0:17:36.480 friends are right there in the dorms, They're right there 0:17:36.680 --> 0:17:39.840 in your sororities or your fraternity or whatever. And then 0:17:39.880 --> 0:17:42.040 when I moved back to New York City long story shore, 0:17:42.320 --> 0:17:44.440 I lived here, I moved away. I came back in 0:17:44.520 --> 0:17:47.359 twenty ten, and for the first few years I was 0:17:47.440 --> 0:17:51.640 actually I lived by myself on this in this tiny, 0:17:51.680 --> 0:17:54.440 little Upper east Side apartment, and I was just I'm 0:17:54.440 --> 0:17:55.200 a personal trainer. 0:17:55.240 --> 0:17:55.920 I was just working. 0:17:56.000 --> 0:17:57.600 Then I would go home. I was working, I would 0:17:57.600 --> 0:17:59.600 go home. I have a close friend group. 0:18:00.080 --> 0:18:03.800 Amy, you are my sister, you are my best friend, 0:18:04.240 --> 0:18:08.159 You're my free therapist. So talking about therapy and everything, 0:18:08.720 --> 0:18:14.280 but I crying about two hours, just life changes toole, 0:18:14.320 --> 0:18:21.760 life change, life changes, anxiety, anxiety also just literally yeah, why, 0:18:22.920 --> 0:18:26.399 I'm a very like introspective person head in Yota, So 0:18:26.640 --> 0:18:30.560 I'm just constantly thinking, just like overthinking. I'm a big overthinker. 0:18:30.640 --> 0:18:34.000 Amy's like always talks me down. She's like, you're overthinking this, 0:18:34.280 --> 0:18:37.760 or but just live stuff, live changes with everything, be 0:18:37.880 --> 0:18:40.720 it with I was actually crying a little bit about 0:18:41.000 --> 0:18:44.119 like Anna moving away, honestly, like that's something I can 0:18:44.200 --> 0:18:47.720 literally start crying about, Like Ava's in Germany, but she 0:18:47.800 --> 0:18:50.600 still lives here at n YU and just even literally 0:18:50.760 --> 0:18:53.200 the thought of Anna moving away, So don't start crying. 0:18:53.280 --> 0:18:55.680 I won't Anna moving away in a few months to 0:18:55.720 --> 0:18:58.040 go off to college. We're not sure still she hasn't 0:18:58.080 --> 0:18:59.760 chosen which college yet she wants to go to. But 0:18:59.880 --> 0:19:02.440 just the thought of that, I can literally just start crying. 0:19:03.040 --> 0:19:04.920 I had just got done with work and I called 0:19:04.960 --> 0:19:06.960 you up and we're just literally chatting on the phone 0:19:07.040 --> 0:19:10.359 for like a solid hour or two just about life 0:19:10.400 --> 0:19:12.200 and about the books and about the podcast that we 0:19:12.359 --> 0:19:12.760 listened to. 0:19:13.280 --> 0:19:17.440 And we just we share, we share podcasts and ideas 0:19:17.520 --> 0:19:20.359 and yes, and we're just we're we're really sappy like that. 0:19:20.560 --> 0:19:24.679 But we were constantly supporting one another. I think absolutely 0:19:24.920 --> 0:19:28.480 when we have anxiety, which is amazing. Absolutely, you want 0:19:28.520 --> 0:19:30.400 to go back. And the story of how we met 0:19:30.480 --> 0:19:33.440 is pretty funny because it's not what people would think 0:19:33.920 --> 0:19:34.720 favorite story. 0:19:34.960 --> 0:19:36.440 It's literally one of my favorite stories. 0:19:36.600 --> 0:19:38.000 I needed a dog sitter. 0:19:38.320 --> 0:19:41.439 I actually worked at ABC Radio. I don't know if 0:19:41.480 --> 0:19:43.760 y'all know, I don't. I know you knew this. The 0:19:43.800 --> 0:19:46.000 thought of making a cubicle is so funny to me. 0:19:46.160 --> 0:19:49.080 Definitely not me. I ever going back to a cubicle 0:19:49.160 --> 0:19:51.160 or I did fit. 0:19:51.400 --> 0:19:54.920 Yeah, anyway, So I did that for about a year, 0:19:55.119 --> 0:19:56.840 and that's how a lot of people think, I know you. 0:19:56.960 --> 0:19:59.480 Actually I did that for about a year. This is 0:19:59.520 --> 0:20:02.560 two thousand and it just wasn't me. I just knew 0:20:02.560 --> 0:20:07.120 I wasn't meant to be working there, and I wanted 0:20:07.160 --> 0:20:09.000 to travel. I wanted to live elsewhere because I loved 0:20:09.080 --> 0:20:10.720 New York so much. I love New York so much 0:20:11.040 --> 0:20:12.240 that I was like, if I don't leave now, I'm 0:20:12.280 --> 0:20:14.159 never gonna leave. So I ended up moving to Hawaii 0:20:14.200 --> 0:20:16.240 for a few months. Then I went off to Brazil 0:20:16.359 --> 0:20:18.040 for a few months, and then I was like, Okay, 0:20:18.040 --> 0:20:20.240 I'm ready to go back to New York City twenty ten, 0:20:21.080 --> 0:20:24.080 and I was like, I'm gonna pursue personal training. My 0:20:24.240 --> 0:20:26.440 aunt in the Philippines was a personal trainer. She's the 0:20:26.480 --> 0:20:28.480 one I really looked up to look up to still, 0:20:29.280 --> 0:20:32.159 so I pursued that, got my certification in that So 0:20:32.280 --> 0:20:34.960 twenty ten, i work at New York Sports Clubs and 0:20:35.240 --> 0:20:38.760 I'm getting certified to become a trainer. And in the meantime, 0:20:38.800 --> 0:20:40.399 obviously I had to pay the bills, so I'm not 0:20:40.520 --> 0:20:41.760 yet a trainer. I don't want to train a new 0:20:41.760 --> 0:20:43.840 one until I'm actually certified. So I get a job 0:20:44.040 --> 0:20:47.680 at Quicksilver on Fifth Avenue, right by a Rockefeller Center. 0:20:48.720 --> 0:20:52.639 Quicksilver is a like a surf brand, surf brand, skate brand. 0:20:52.880 --> 0:20:54.280 It's one of my favorite brands. I was like, and 0:20:54.320 --> 0:20:56.199 I don't mind retail. I've always enjoyed retail. I did 0:20:56.240 --> 0:20:58.240 that through all throughout college. So I did that while 0:20:58.240 --> 0:21:01.520 I'm also working at New York Sports Clubs as a 0:21:02.400 --> 0:21:04.720 a as I'm getting my certification. 0:21:04.840 --> 0:21:06.320 Right and Sarah Haynes walks in. 0:21:06.600 --> 0:21:07.679 So Sarah Haynes. 0:21:07.440 --> 0:21:13.520 Walks in one July summer day in twenty ten, and 0:21:13.720 --> 0:21:16.080 long story short, one of the coolest girls. We just 0:21:16.200 --> 0:21:18.000 hit it off and she gives me her card and 0:21:18.119 --> 0:21:21.359 she actually became my very first client. We're training and 0:21:21.440 --> 0:21:23.560 she and I'm talking about my love for dogs, and 0:21:23.640 --> 0:21:26.640 she was like, would you ever want to dog sit 0:21:26.880 --> 0:21:30.720 one day? Is that a possibility? Like your like apartment 0:21:30.840 --> 0:21:34.119 sit enjoy my apartment on the Upper West Side at 0:21:34.119 --> 0:21:36.800 the time, or Hell's kitchen this is where she lived. 0:21:37.119 --> 0:21:38.960 And I was like, sure, I love dogs, of course, 0:21:39.040 --> 0:21:42.280 let's do this. So I start not only training her, 0:21:42.480 --> 0:21:45.840 I'm dog sitting for her. And then let's fast forward to. 0:21:46.600 --> 0:21:49.480 Well you you you trained, so you trained Sarah? You 0:21:49.760 --> 0:21:53.159 you you dog sat for her. Then she introduces you 0:21:53.240 --> 0:21:53.720 to ginger Z. 0:21:53.920 --> 0:21:56.640 To ginger Z in twenty fourteen, so then you're dog 0:21:56.680 --> 0:21:58.840 and I think start dog hitting and did you train 0:21:58.920 --> 0:22:00.439 dog or just not dream her? 0:22:00.760 --> 0:22:02.720 I just dogs. I loved her dog so much. I 0:22:02.800 --> 0:22:04.200 actually dog sat dog walk. 0:22:04.280 --> 0:22:06.800 I actually gave up a few clients to walk her 0:22:06.880 --> 0:22:09.000 dog every day because I loved him so much. 0:22:09.160 --> 0:22:12.480 Nicki loves dogs and she loves kids she doesn't have. 0:22:13.720 --> 0:22:16.359 And then you so I was twenty fifteen. I go 0:22:16.440 --> 0:22:18.560 to ginger and I needed a dog sitter, and she 0:22:18.760 --> 0:22:21.359 was like, actually I know this girl. I met her 0:22:21.400 --> 0:22:24.080 through Sarah Haynes, and she also is a personal trainer. 0:22:24.119 --> 0:22:26.840 If you need that, I'm like, actually that it sounds amazing. 0:22:26.880 --> 0:22:29.000 Will you give me her number? So if you look 0:22:29.160 --> 0:22:31.600 in my phone when your name comes up, it still 0:22:31.640 --> 0:22:35.520 says it says trainer, Nikkia. Yeah, that doesn't say dog sitter. 0:22:35.680 --> 0:22:38.640 That wasn't your trade. You're a trainer. And so you started, 0:22:39.760 --> 0:22:43.119 you know, helping me out walk and not really walking Brody, 0:22:43.160 --> 0:22:46.000 but taking care of him when I'm traveling, apartment sitting yep. 0:22:46.160 --> 0:22:48.879 And then and then I said I'd actually love a 0:22:48.960 --> 0:22:49.600 personal trainer. 0:22:49.760 --> 0:22:49.920 Yep. 0:22:50.040 --> 0:22:52.879 So I was coming out of breast cancer, and I 0:22:53.000 --> 0:22:55.080 knew I wanted to get, you know, more fit after 0:22:55.160 --> 0:22:57.840 everything I'd been through. So you and I started training. 0:22:58.000 --> 0:23:01.080 And the one thing about Nicki is when she trained someone, 0:23:01.160 --> 0:23:03.800 she's not just physically training them. It's also I learned 0:23:03.840 --> 0:23:06.160 a therapy session to go back to our theme therapy. 0:23:06.480 --> 0:23:10.080 So I started thinking, like, this girl is so interesting. 0:23:10.240 --> 0:23:12.840 I mean, she and the training would just fly by 0:23:13.040 --> 0:23:16.119 because we'd be talking about our feelings and what we 0:23:16.200 --> 0:23:18.600 think about the about life and all of this stuff. 0:23:18.600 --> 0:23:20.760 And so I started learning things about you, and you 0:23:21.000 --> 0:23:22.800 told me at that point, and I find this so 0:23:22.880 --> 0:23:27.159 interesting that you were eight years sober, that's right. And 0:23:28.080 --> 0:23:32.840 I started asking you questions and you explained what happened. 0:23:33.560 --> 0:23:37.159 So back in I think my last drink, like I 0:23:37.480 --> 0:23:40.160 partied haired in college, and then my first few years 0:23:40.200 --> 0:23:43.520 here that one year in New York City, Hawaii as well. 0:23:43.600 --> 0:23:46.200 When I got back from Hawaiian and Brazil, I got 0:23:46.280 --> 0:23:50.080 back here and I was just like, I didn't have 0:23:50.640 --> 0:23:55.600 a great experience at a party once, at a work 0:23:55.640 --> 0:23:57.359 party once, and I was like, I'm done, Like I 0:23:57.440 --> 0:23:59.719 just don't want to drink anymore. So when I got 0:23:59.760 --> 0:24:01.639 back from Brazil in twenty ten, I was like or 0:24:01.680 --> 0:24:04.280 two thousand and nine or so, I was like, I think, 0:24:04.280 --> 0:24:05.200 I'm just not going to drink. 0:24:05.280 --> 0:24:07.159 And I just was able to cut it out of 0:24:07.200 --> 0:24:08.040 my life. Cold tricky. 0:24:08.440 --> 0:24:11.320 So I get back to New York City. I'm putting 0:24:11.680 --> 0:24:15.560 all my energy into training and working and everything. And 0:24:15.640 --> 0:24:17.440 at the same time, I didn't really have like a 0:24:17.640 --> 0:24:20.119 close friend group or anything. Didn't have y'all at the 0:24:20.160 --> 0:24:23.080 time or anything. So I was just like, I don't 0:24:23.160 --> 0:24:24.920 I'm just not going to drink. And I just wasn't 0:24:25.160 --> 0:24:27.600 tempted to, I didn't feel like I needed to, didn't 0:24:27.640 --> 0:24:29.879 want to. So for eight years I just did not 0:24:30.040 --> 0:24:33.560 have one drink. And then it wasn't until I met 0:24:33.880 --> 0:24:37.400 my group of friends that i'm very still like, still 0:24:37.600 --> 0:24:40.080 very close to. I was like, I finally feel like 0:24:40.119 --> 0:24:41.760 I found a group of people that I feel safe 0:24:42.119 --> 0:24:42.639 drinking with. 0:24:42.880 --> 0:24:45.600 Yeah, and I started eating back into it as a woman. 0:24:45.680 --> 0:24:46.920 That makes a lot of sense. 0:24:47.080 --> 0:24:49.439 Yeah, And then you eat back and how and how 0:24:49.480 --> 0:24:52.440 do you feel now about about your drinking habits. I 0:24:52.600 --> 0:24:54.720 feel very very. 0:24:54.640 --> 0:24:55.960 Healthy with it. It's not something. 0:24:56.160 --> 0:25:00.440 I'm a social drinker. I love like the you actually 0:25:00.480 --> 0:25:03.200 taught me this phrase. I drink to enhance joy, not 0:25:03.320 --> 0:25:03.960 to mask pain. 0:25:04.480 --> 0:25:05.920 So I I love it. 0:25:06.040 --> 0:25:08.760 I love going out to our our lunches getting rose. 0:25:08.960 --> 0:25:11.680 I love our run to run to fun. Whenever I 0:25:11.720 --> 0:25:13.480 go running with you guys, let's grab it be speaking 0:25:13.480 --> 0:25:17.560 to the afternoon now, yeah, fun. Because I feel safe 0:25:17.600 --> 0:25:21.119 with y'all. I feel safe with with you know. I 0:25:21.160 --> 0:25:23.720 think that's a big thing. Actually, just when I won't 0:25:23.760 --> 0:25:27.480 just drink with anybody, I need to know that I'm 0:25:27.520 --> 0:25:28.440 in a safe environment. 0:25:28.800 --> 0:25:30.560 So I have a very healthy relationship with it. 0:25:30.760 --> 0:25:32.800 But I enjoy it. I have fun. 0:25:32.840 --> 0:25:34.240 I love a good glad. Are we gonna get rose 0:25:34.320 --> 0:25:34.560 after this? 0:25:34.800 --> 0:25:35.040 Can we? 0:25:36.160 --> 0:25:38.920 Well it's not dry January anymore? Yes, let's do it. 0:25:40.119 --> 0:25:42.000 And I wanted to be clear that you you had 0:25:42.040 --> 0:25:45.800 a bad experience, but you didn't have some drinking. Probably. 0:25:45.880 --> 0:25:46.680 I just wanted to make sure. 0:25:47.040 --> 0:25:48.240 Yeah, yeah, Actually I. 0:25:48.240 --> 0:25:50.719 Appreciate you meuntioning that because there were only a lot 0:25:50.760 --> 0:25:53.360 of people. Yes, yes, yes, actually I appreciate you saying 0:25:53.400 --> 0:25:56.639 that it was an uh No, I never I know, 0:25:56.800 --> 0:25:57.480 was never addicted. 0:25:57.560 --> 0:25:59.680 I was never like an alcoholic or anything like that. 0:26:00.000 --> 0:26:02.680 Someone else who put you in an uncomfortable situation and 0:26:02.800 --> 0:26:06.000 you didn't feel like being under the influence in any 0:26:06.040 --> 0:26:07.080 way helped the situation. 0:26:07.240 --> 0:26:08.119 So it was scary. 0:26:08.280 --> 0:26:08.720 Absolutely. 0:26:08.760 --> 0:26:12.080 It was actually at at my first corporate job and 0:26:12.320 --> 0:26:15.200 it was a work party, and it just it it 0:26:15.920 --> 0:26:17.520 was just not a good situation to get. 0:26:18.920 --> 0:26:20.119 It was just wasn't a good situation. 0:26:20.160 --> 0:26:21.320 Do you remember the date of that party? 0:26:21.760 --> 0:26:24.000 December something two thousand. 0:26:24.640 --> 0:26:26.840 Wow, Because something is different. Like so when I said 0:26:26.880 --> 0:26:29.400 she should knowed that, she also has this incredible memory. 0:26:29.880 --> 0:26:32.920 Where so a if you ever are going to be 0:26:33.000 --> 0:26:34.760 in any sort of disagreement, and we don't fight that much. 0:26:34.800 --> 0:26:36.479 We've had a couple fights. 0:26:36.600 --> 0:26:40.480 Sure, but I would never dare say I said or 0:26:40.520 --> 0:26:42.840 didn't say something, because you would be able to almost rebate. 0:26:42.920 --> 0:26:45.520 Tell me what I said, or but I didn't say that. 0:26:45.560 --> 0:26:47.040 You say it in the nicest way, like I don't 0:26:47.080 --> 0:26:50.240 think that's what you said. Actually, keeping on the stay, Yeah, 0:26:50.280 --> 0:26:53.200 and then you can tell me the date that it happened, 0:26:53.240 --> 0:26:54.639 and you can sometimes you can tell me what I 0:26:54.800 --> 0:26:55.240 was wearing. 0:26:55.400 --> 0:26:57.480 Oh my gosh, I could tell you the dates I met. 0:26:57.440 --> 0:27:00.920 Y'all say, I'm trying to think, move to our audience 0:27:01.000 --> 0:27:03.240 right now. Oh god, that she does it. No, you 0:27:03.280 --> 0:27:06.600 wouldn't fail to test, obviously. But it's been bizarre the 0:27:06.800 --> 0:27:08.920 times we can say when was the thing and you 0:27:09.000 --> 0:27:10.720 go boom right off the top of your hands. 0:27:10.840 --> 0:27:12.680 Just recently, you guys were like, hey, when did you 0:27:12.720 --> 0:27:14.639 go to Marie's crisis with a Nick and Adam last year? 0:27:14.640 --> 0:27:16.800 And I said it was April seventh of twenty twenty three, 0:27:18.320 --> 0:27:20.000 but Amy pulled up the pictures like she was right, 0:27:20.040 --> 0:27:22.200 it was April seventh. Right, I can little thing like 0:27:22.320 --> 0:27:27.280 document it on my little things also like sure, my mind, 0:27:27.760 --> 0:27:31.160 my brain, but also pictures and stuff. I love taking pictures, videos, 0:27:31.200 --> 0:27:33.520 I love documenting like you know, Instagram stuff. 0:27:33.960 --> 0:27:36.320 But it's because of that, like pictures from Oh we 0:27:36.359 --> 0:27:37.320 took it on April seventh. 0:27:37.359 --> 0:27:39.040 All right, So what's the day you met TJ? 0:27:39.600 --> 0:27:42.400 So there was an actual day that I met TJ 0:27:43.160 --> 0:27:46.679 at the studio in Times Square with Sabine, Little Sabine, 0:27:46.760 --> 0:27:50.119 she was so cute's so little, But that was in passing. 0:27:50.240 --> 0:27:51.920 That was in passing, Oh TJ. Sabine. 0:27:52.240 --> 0:27:55.640 But when we actually, like, the first day I babysat 0:27:56.920 --> 0:28:01.240 Sabine was June first, twenty nineteen. 0:28:02.200 --> 0:28:02.400 WHOA. 0:28:02.720 --> 0:28:05.680 So I and I do know this because the day 0:28:05.760 --> 0:28:11.240 before Amy me, Amy, like us and some friends went 0:28:11.320 --> 0:28:14.320 out and we're all just having drinks and enjoying. 0:28:14.680 --> 0:28:15.120 Oh, TJ. 0:28:15.240 --> 0:28:17.480 Holmes needs a babysitter tomorrow. Is there any chance that 0:28:17.520 --> 0:28:19.359 you're interested? I was like, oh, hell yeah, let's do 0:28:19.520 --> 0:28:31.119 this all right, I'm gonna test you again. What's the 0:28:31.200 --> 0:28:35.240 first what's the first day that we met that you 0:28:35.320 --> 0:28:39.440 came and dogs hat? The first day that I dog set? Well, okay, 0:28:39.600 --> 0:28:41.360 either one more day we met or the first day 0:28:41.680 --> 0:28:42.200 you dog sat. 0:28:42.280 --> 0:28:45.360 First day we met was August thirteenth, twenty fifteen. Oh 0:28:45.440 --> 0:28:47.560 my gosh, it's weird. And I'll always remember when I 0:28:47.680 --> 0:28:49.440 met you. Guys, I don't know what it is. 0:28:49.520 --> 0:28:52.400 And you remember the first day you came over to 0:28:52.640 --> 0:28:56.640 watch Brody. It was two days later, like August fifteenth, that. 0:28:57.240 --> 0:29:03.720 We had so at Oh was that just us three? Yeah? 0:29:04.360 --> 0:29:05.760 I didn't even remember Robert. 0:29:05.840 --> 0:29:08.760 I actually remember it was August sixth, twenty twenty three, 0:29:09.280 --> 0:29:11.440 because Amy and I went shopping that day and then 0:29:11.480 --> 0:29:14.040 you met up with us. We were shopping in Soho 0:29:14.640 --> 0:29:17.000 and then you met up with us at that place 0:29:17.080 --> 0:29:17.720 on Houston. 0:29:18.320 --> 0:29:21.240 I don't even remember the corner there, guys. 0:29:21.320 --> 0:29:22.400 I have the worst memory. 0:29:22.480 --> 0:29:26.080 I am the opposite of detective, but the favorite one 0:29:26.360 --> 0:29:26.640 for me. 0:29:27.040 --> 0:29:30.160 And you'll remember there was a particular something between the 0:29:30.200 --> 0:29:34.480 two of us that you she's already you sat I 0:29:34.520 --> 0:29:37.280 think you're the only witness to this, right, Okay, He 0:29:37.480 --> 0:29:41.320 sat up in a dead sleep and woke up and 0:29:41.520 --> 0:29:42.680 shouted out my birthday. 0:29:43.560 --> 0:29:44.080 I know this. 0:29:44.480 --> 0:29:45.800 Hold on, this is a fun game. 0:29:46.320 --> 0:29:46.520 It was. 0:29:47.400 --> 0:29:51.120 It was Halloween. It was hollow because we went to 0:29:51.200 --> 0:29:51.720 Ava show. 0:29:52.280 --> 0:29:56.240 We walked through that parade. Yep, we get to your apartment. 0:29:57.560 --> 0:29:59.960 I were on the couch I fell asleep watching a movie. 0:30:00.840 --> 0:30:03.680 TJ's on the floor, and then out of nowhere, I 0:30:03.720 --> 0:30:06.560 was talking to TJ. I don't know, you just scream 0:30:06.840 --> 0:30:09.680 August nineteenth. And he goes, wait, what did you just say? 0:30:10.240 --> 0:30:11.720 And then you don't even remember that. 0:30:11.760 --> 0:30:14.120 I didn't remember. The next day I was in work, 0:30:14.200 --> 0:30:17.040 TJ walks by my dressing room and he said, hey, Robes, 0:30:17.080 --> 0:30:19.800 when's my birthday? And I was like, huh. And so 0:30:19.960 --> 0:30:23.360 I looked to my producer, Danesca, and she's I look 0:30:23.400 --> 0:30:24.719 at her, and we have we have we can make 0:30:24.760 --> 0:30:25.200 eye contact. 0:30:25.240 --> 0:30:26.760 She knows what I mean. She's like, I'm looking it up. 0:30:26.840 --> 0:30:28.320 So she looked it up and she whispers to me 0:30:28.360 --> 0:30:31.040 August nineteenth and I say, I'll get nineteenth. And he 0:30:31.120 --> 0:30:33.160 said did you know that? I said no, Daneska just 0:30:33.200 --> 0:30:34.640 told me. He's like, do you know what you said 0:30:34.760 --> 0:30:38.479 last night on the couch? Nope, I screamed August nineteenth. 0:30:38.520 --> 0:30:41.360 We still can't understand it. I don't think anyone will 0:30:41.400 --> 0:30:42.960 believe it unless you witnessed it. 0:30:43.160 --> 0:30:45.720 Again, you were the only Nikki's only witnessed it. But 0:30:47.040 --> 0:30:48.560 this was before there was anything between. 0:30:48.880 --> 0:30:51.720 Yeah, they were just friends. This is years before two years. 0:30:51.600 --> 0:30:56.000 Before at you a complete dead sleeps new and I 0:30:56.200 --> 0:30:59.640 were just we're just talking. We're the World Series game 0:30:59.800 --> 0:31:00.680 or football game. 0:31:00.800 --> 0:31:03.080 Yes, I ordered pizza out. 0:31:03.040 --> 0:31:05.880 And we're talking. Everybody else's passed out, and you just 0:31:06.120 --> 0:31:09.360 shut up on the couch, spread out nineteenth. 0:31:10.840 --> 0:31:13.160 It's weird. I don't even have an explanation for it. 0:31:13.320 --> 0:31:15.080 It's one of those boobs. 0:31:15.120 --> 0:31:19.640 Halloween of twenty twenty one, twenty twenty one, Yes, twenty 0:31:19.680 --> 0:31:20.040 twenty one. 0:31:20.160 --> 0:31:20.520 There it is. 0:31:20.680 --> 0:31:23.239 Yeah, Oh my goodness, it's anyways, if you guys need 0:31:23.320 --> 0:31:24.000 help with your. 0:31:24.000 --> 0:31:27.600 Day, have you heard of I mesia? I have not. 0:31:27.880 --> 0:31:28.240 What is that? 0:31:28.560 --> 0:31:32.400 They say, that's what you have. It's someone's ability to 0:31:32.720 --> 0:31:37.280 spontaneously recall the dates and details of events that happened 0:31:37.320 --> 0:31:37.800 in their life. 0:31:37.960 --> 0:31:40.800 Wow. Yeah, And oh my gosh, even small ones like 0:31:40.880 --> 0:31:43.680 you it. I can't tell you how many times it 0:31:43.800 --> 0:31:45.920 happens where you all just kind of be saying what 0:31:46.200 --> 0:31:49.040 was that, and you'll just shout out the exact date 0:31:49.320 --> 0:31:50.600 and then, like I said, you can tell me what 0:31:50.680 --> 0:31:53.360 I'm where I was wearing sometimes, Oh my gosh. Really weird. 0:31:53.440 --> 0:31:55.240 Oh absolutely, but you remember when you wore that? 0:31:55.640 --> 0:31:55.680 No? 0:31:55.960 --> 0:31:58.680 Also, because like I just I have pictures too. 0:31:58.800 --> 0:32:01.440 It's like, like it doesn't matter. I have pictures too. 0:32:01.560 --> 0:32:04.320 I have I have the opposite condition that you have. 0:32:04.760 --> 0:32:09.400 I can't remember anything. I'm like when it humh, oh 0:32:09.520 --> 0:32:11.920 my god. It's a fun little game we can play. 0:32:12.120 --> 0:32:15.400 We can I love the can do day. 0:32:16.480 --> 0:32:20.239 So wait, So if you google Nikki Aspina, I did 0:32:20.280 --> 0:32:22.520 it today. There's there's a lot of you out there. 0:32:22.640 --> 0:32:25.880 But one of the funny things you will find if 0:32:25.960 --> 0:32:29.640 you google Nikki Aspina is she made headlines. You. You 0:32:29.760 --> 0:32:35.520 went viral last year because of how you live and 0:32:35.760 --> 0:32:38.040 where you live and how much you pay to do that. 0:32:38.440 --> 0:32:40.080 Oh my gosh, everyone knows how much I do. 0:32:40.240 --> 0:32:44.920 It's New York City. But please tell our listeners because 0:32:44.920 --> 0:32:46.720 this is going to blow your mind everyone. 0:32:47.960 --> 0:32:49.280 First of all, how much as you're. 0:32:49.120 --> 0:32:53.680 In seventeen fifty Okay, that sounds great, rights, yeah. 0:32:54.160 --> 0:32:56.920 In New York. Now, what is the square foot of 0:32:57.000 --> 0:32:57.440 your apartment? 0:32:58.200 --> 0:32:59.120 Eighty square feet? 0:32:59.520 --> 0:33:02.520 Eighty eight note eight hundred eighty. 0:33:02.320 --> 0:33:06.440 Square feet, which so basically here's the story with that. 0:33:06.560 --> 0:33:08.040 So have you guys heard of Calebsimson. 0:33:08.120 --> 0:33:10.080 He is known for going up to people in the 0:33:10.120 --> 0:33:13.040 streets spontaneously and being like, hey, excuse me how much 0:33:13.040 --> 0:33:14.640 do you pay for rents in New York City? And 0:33:14.720 --> 0:33:17.840 they'll stop and be like two thousand dollars, three thousand dollars. 0:33:18.240 --> 0:33:21.560 So I came across his videos his Instagram exactly a 0:33:21.640 --> 0:33:24.960 year ago, about a year ago, and jokingly, I was 0:33:25.040 --> 0:33:27.560 just scrolling through his feed and I loved it, and 0:33:28.280 --> 0:33:29.800 one of my friends was like, Nikki, you should ask 0:33:29.920 --> 0:33:32.600 him on I reposted a video of his One of 0:33:32.680 --> 0:33:34.760 my friends was like, you should get him to come 0:33:34.760 --> 0:33:35.719 to your micro studio. 0:33:36.400 --> 0:33:37.120 So I put. 0:33:37.160 --> 0:33:40.920 Jokingly on my store, Caleb Simpson, come toward my micro studio. 0:33:41.280 --> 0:33:44.160 He responds within ten minutes saying when can I come 0:33:44.200 --> 0:33:46.600 over to do the store. I actually didn't respond for 0:33:46.720 --> 0:33:49.360 maybe twelve hours because I was like, I was kind 0:33:49.360 --> 0:33:51.280 of kidding, and I don't know if I want you 0:33:51.360 --> 0:33:52.280 coming over to my place. 0:33:52.320 --> 0:33:54.360 And I get nervous about things like this. So I 0:33:54.520 --> 0:33:56.440 was you know who encouraged me to do it? 0:33:56.600 --> 0:33:56.719 Right? 0:33:57.320 --> 0:34:00.640 Anna? Oh yeah, it's typical. 0:34:01.120 --> 0:34:03.720 Yeah, And he's like yoo, yeah. 0:34:03.880 --> 0:34:05.600 She was literally like just you, it'll be fine. She 0:34:05.600 --> 0:34:06.960 helps me like figure out what I was going to 0:34:07.000 --> 0:34:09.520 wear on it, and everything was so funny. Anyways, long 0:34:09.560 --> 0:34:13.239 story short, he comes over and he very cool guy. Him, 0:34:13.320 --> 0:34:16.920 the guy that shot the video or whatever, come over. 0:34:17.680 --> 0:34:20.360 Very cool guys. They're literally only over for maybe twenty 0:34:20.440 --> 0:34:22.640 thirty minutes because there's not well, it's. 0:34:22.560 --> 0:34:23.680 Just you don't have to tour it. 0:34:24.120 --> 0:34:26.360 They about to ask you where your bed was. 0:34:26.640 --> 0:34:29.200 Oh my goodness, So I have a which is funny 0:34:29.239 --> 0:34:32.560 because this is the most amount of I get dms 0:34:32.920 --> 0:34:35.080 left and right about my Murphy bed, which, by the way, 0:34:35.280 --> 0:34:36.760 it came completely furnished. 0:34:37.400 --> 0:34:38.680 So not completely furnished. 0:34:38.680 --> 0:34:41.160 I bought. Well then totally worth the bright Oh totally 0:34:41.280 --> 0:34:44.279 and there's free WiFi. Oh oh wow great? 0:34:45.800 --> 0:34:47.719 How do you furnish eighty square feet? 0:34:48.680 --> 0:34:51.080 Well, I do want to also say so when I 0:34:51.239 --> 0:34:53.640 was looking at it in twenty nineteen, Amy comes over. 0:34:54.480 --> 0:34:56.560 I honestly don't know what your thoughts were. When I 0:34:56.640 --> 0:34:57.160 showed it to you. 0:34:57.280 --> 0:35:01.520 I thought it was size she gets perfect for you. 0:35:02.040 --> 0:35:03.839 So literally I was like, this is where I want 0:35:03.880 --> 0:35:05.960 to live. So mind you, I lived in an actual 0:35:06.000 --> 0:35:06.960 studio what you're calling it? 0:35:07.040 --> 0:35:07.239 TJ. 0:35:07.400 --> 0:35:09.520 Yeah, that was like, what did I call that place? 0:35:09.719 --> 0:35:11.120 Oh my gosh, Oh my goodness. 0:35:11.320 --> 0:35:15.919 So he lived in basically an empty you I said 0:35:15.920 --> 0:35:21.759 it was a sad divorced man's apartment. Yeah, so I right, 0:35:23.480 --> 0:35:26.839 it was your place day. 0:35:28.719 --> 0:35:32.400 There was nothing like I used to So I consider 0:35:32.480 --> 0:35:35.359 myself a minimalist, as in, I don't own a lot 0:35:35.440 --> 0:35:39.640 of stuff this old place on the Upper east Side. Literally, 0:35:39.760 --> 0:35:42.080 dad nothing hanging on my walls, and I had a 0:35:42.120 --> 0:35:43.120 twin size bed. 0:35:43.400 --> 0:35:44.479 I didn't even have a TV. 0:35:44.840 --> 0:35:45.560 It was so sad. 0:35:45.719 --> 0:35:48.640 And when you take a picture frame, Amy and an 0:35:48.800 --> 0:35:52.000 Ava came to it was that that big blizzard that 0:35:52.160 --> 0:35:54.360 happened and they came to stay at my place that 0:35:54.440 --> 0:35:57.640 one night, and anyways, it was just there's no decorations. 0:35:58.000 --> 0:36:00.479 So long story short, I lived there for ten years, 0:36:00.560 --> 0:36:02.520 you guys on the Upper east Side, and then I 0:36:02.640 --> 0:36:04.399 was just spending all my time down in the West 0:36:04.480 --> 0:36:06.959 Village with our you know, you live down there. Joan 0:36:07.000 --> 0:36:09.759 Preston lived down there. Pretty much everyone lived down there 0:36:09.800 --> 0:36:10.880 that I was hanging out with. I was like, I'm 0:36:10.880 --> 0:36:13.319 gonna try to get downtown. Actually, so I looked at 0:36:13.520 --> 0:36:16.560 so many places, like maybe twenty places in twenty nineteen 0:36:16.600 --> 0:36:20.120 while we're training for the marathon, and then all of 0:36:20.120 --> 0:36:22.680 a sudden, this micro studio pops up on Street Easy 0:36:22.760 --> 0:36:24.399 and I'm like, this is the one. 0:36:24.640 --> 0:36:25.320 Oh my goodness. 0:36:25.320 --> 0:36:27.640 So I look at it and I actually got approved 0:36:27.719 --> 0:36:28.959 within like a week. 0:36:29.200 --> 0:36:31.920 No one else, no one else, because none of it 0:36:32.680 --> 0:36:32.920 live in. 0:36:33.040 --> 0:36:36.040 Eighty square heats except for actually a very good point. 0:36:36.200 --> 0:36:38.960 So in the sense of so I see it, it's 0:36:39.200 --> 0:36:40.280 I have to show you guys pictures. 0:36:40.280 --> 0:36:42.440 So it's viral. Everyone check it out on callobseay. You 0:36:42.520 --> 0:36:45.239 have five million views or something, which is easy. 0:36:45.880 --> 0:36:48.719 People like it's jaw dropping to see someone living in 0:36:48.800 --> 0:36:49.840 eighty square quakeness. 0:36:49.880 --> 0:36:52.040 And if you read the comments there, so one moaning 0:36:52.120 --> 0:36:54.360 c you have like how many like how many plates 0:36:54.400 --> 0:36:54.640 do you have? 0:36:54.719 --> 0:36:57.520 Lates? I have four plates, three bowls. 0:36:58.120 --> 0:37:01.120 Yeah, I can literally tell you everything little, but I'm 0:37:01.239 --> 0:37:03.160 just a big So when I lived in Hawaii, I 0:37:03.360 --> 0:37:06.560 racked up a lot of debt, and when I got back, 0:37:06.760 --> 0:37:08.359 I was like, I got to pay off this debt, 0:37:08.440 --> 0:37:10.759 and I ended up selling a bunch of This is 0:37:10.800 --> 0:37:11.880 how I got into minimalism. 0:37:12.400 --> 0:37:12.680 Selling. 0:37:13.160 --> 0:37:15.480 I kept everything from college. I used to actually like 0:37:15.680 --> 0:37:17.440 be a packer. I used to keep every little thing, 0:37:17.520 --> 0:37:18.240 even receipts. 0:37:18.640 --> 0:37:21.360 It was just so weird. So I go back to 0:37:21.440 --> 0:37:22.120 my parents' house. 0:37:22.719 --> 0:37:24.960 I stay there before I moved to Brazil, for a 0:37:25.000 --> 0:37:27.160 few months, for maybe two months with them, and while 0:37:27.160 --> 0:37:32.080 I'm there, I actually sold everything that I wasn't using. 0:37:32.360 --> 0:37:34.400 I was like, I don't need I used to surf, 0:37:34.520 --> 0:37:36.719 I don't need three surfboards. I'm gonna sell them. Am 0:37:36.719 --> 0:37:38.759 I using these? So let me sell these? So I 0:37:38.840 --> 0:37:41.080 actually made enough money to pay off the debt I 0:37:41.200 --> 0:37:43.320 racked up in Hawaii. And it was then that I 0:37:43.480 --> 0:37:46.680 was like, I don't need a lot of stuff. Minimalism 0:37:46.760 --> 0:37:49.840 to me is because one of the biggest comments I 0:37:50.280 --> 0:37:52.920 like left and right, so it goes either or so 0:37:52.960 --> 0:37:54.719 many people saying this is so great? How did you 0:37:54.760 --> 0:37:56.880 get into minimalism? And then there are definitely a lot 0:37:56.920 --> 0:37:59.360 of people are like, oh my gosh, you are crazy. 0:38:00.000 --> 0:38:02.000 Workers are crazy, Like why would people want to pay 0:38:02.120 --> 0:38:04.400 that much to First of all, not everyone. 0:38:04.440 --> 0:38:07.200 Does this, like lives the way I do, but I 0:38:07.520 --> 0:38:11.359 just it was worth it to live. 0:38:11.480 --> 0:38:13.719 I can be at your place in ten minutes, and 0:38:14.080 --> 0:38:17.160 that was I could be at Joe and Preston's place 0:38:17.200 --> 0:38:18.719 in ten minutes, like TJ I could be at your 0:38:18.760 --> 0:38:19.800 place in twenty minutes. 0:38:20.120 --> 0:38:22.800 It's just perfect for you because you were close to 0:38:22.840 --> 0:38:24.720 your friends and like a lot of stuff anyway. 0:38:24.760 --> 0:38:25.239 So it works. 0:38:25.280 --> 0:38:27.640 As much as people might think it's crazy, it absolutely 0:38:27.719 --> 0:38:29.400 works for you and your personality. I want to make 0:38:29.440 --> 0:38:32.359 sure we touch on you travel the same way too. 0:38:32.400 --> 0:38:34.279 You have like I'll have like two bags, you have 0:38:34.400 --> 0:38:38.800 one backpack. We've traveled the world together. We've run marathons together. 0:38:38.840 --> 0:38:42.279 We've climbed mountains together. NICKI was with me when we 0:38:42.640 --> 0:38:47.080 somebody did kill him and Jarrow. We have obviously we've 0:38:47.120 --> 0:38:47.800 run how many. 0:38:47.880 --> 0:38:51.200 Two marathon grown together? Okay for wow, I've wow, I've missed. 0:38:51.280 --> 0:38:51.959 I missed a couple. 0:38:52.239 --> 0:38:55.480 We've done four marathons together. We did the challenge of 0:38:55.520 --> 0:38:58.600 doing Chicago and New York together. And so you have 0:38:58.800 --> 0:39:00.640 been amazing and you weren't even a run or to 0:39:00.719 --> 0:39:03.359 begin with, you became You actually said you would bike 0:39:03.480 --> 0:39:06.560 next to me while I ran on a run. Forward 0:39:06.640 --> 0:39:08.719 to later that year, she's running the New York City 0:39:08.800 --> 0:39:11.960 Marathon with me. So that just speaks to how when 0:39:11.960 --> 0:39:13.759 you put your mind to something and you say you can't, 0:39:14.320 --> 0:39:16.480 it's amazing what you can do. And you've been a 0:39:16.640 --> 0:39:20.600 huge example of that. I want to ask you what 0:39:20.760 --> 0:39:23.279 your next challenge is, because you're always challenging yourself. You 0:39:23.760 --> 0:39:26.719 said you wanted to do trail running, which I think 0:39:26.880 --> 0:39:30.080 is just such a difficult thing to do because we 0:39:30.280 --> 0:39:32.759 hike and we run, but putting them together is a 0:39:32.960 --> 0:39:35.120 very difficult thing. But I'm curious because I don't even 0:39:35.160 --> 0:39:37.440 know the answer to this. What is your next big challenge? 0:39:37.760 --> 0:39:39.759 What do you want to accomplish this year? 0:39:40.239 --> 0:39:40.680 This year? 0:39:41.000 --> 0:39:44.640 Oh wow, I think you you nailed it. I would 0:39:44.719 --> 0:39:48.120 love to sign up for a trail race. I was 0:39:48.120 --> 0:39:50.440 supposed to do one a few months ago. I ended 0:39:50.520 --> 0:39:52.880 up not doing it, but I would love to. 0:39:53.200 --> 0:39:55.640 Obviously did one on Staten Island. I didn't even know 0:39:55.760 --> 0:39:59.040 that was I forgot about that. That was the run 0:39:59.280 --> 0:40:01.560 in Sutn Island. Like I mean, I learned in the 0:40:02.200 --> 0:40:03.319 city from you every day. 0:40:03.440 --> 0:40:05.600 So like New York City is like just this big 0:40:05.680 --> 0:40:08.240 playground and when you can find people that you enjoy 0:40:08.440 --> 0:40:10.640 just exploring the city with, it just makes it all 0:40:10.680 --> 0:40:12.719 the more better. And y'all are that to me, like 0:40:12.840 --> 0:40:14.640 all our cool runs that we go do you We're 0:40:14.640 --> 0:40:16.279 gonna go pick up some bean from school here in 0:40:16.280 --> 0:40:16.640 a little bit. 0:40:16.640 --> 0:40:19.239 I'm so excited, And just little things like that. 0:40:19.320 --> 0:40:22.399 But my big, my big next goal, I would say, 0:40:22.520 --> 0:40:27.000 would be a Trail Race, and also I would love 0:40:27.120 --> 0:40:31.320 to get back into doing another mountain. That's definitely. I 0:40:31.360 --> 0:40:33.560 don't know about this year, but I think trail Race 0:40:33.560 --> 0:40:35.200 would probably be top of the list. 0:40:35.320 --> 0:40:37.320 For Yeah, we did cook theos Go together too, so 0:40:37.440 --> 0:40:39.319 we've done two of the seven Summits together with. 0:40:41.000 --> 0:40:41.160 Yeah. 0:40:41.200 --> 0:40:45.000 We Yeah, the weather, the web, it was why we 0:40:45.239 --> 0:40:48.440 climbed the comitted, the second and third highest peaks in 0:40:48.480 --> 0:40:48.880 the Alps. 0:40:48.920 --> 0:40:50.680 And that was actually the hardest thing I've ever done 0:40:50.680 --> 0:40:51.080 in my life. 0:40:51.160 --> 0:40:54.560 That was very difficult. We were that rying, actually harder 0:40:54.640 --> 0:40:58.759 than I was bawling the entire time. Conditions were rough 0:40:58.760 --> 0:41:01.480 because we got to do two and you got to 0:41:01.520 --> 0:41:04.759 do I know, we felt like, yeah, it was pretty tough. 0:41:05.080 --> 0:41:07.800 I want to Also, there's so many I said she 0:41:07.880 --> 0:41:08.839 was a unicorn in Yoda. 0:41:09.680 --> 0:41:12.839 You are officially now not single, But the entire time 0:41:12.920 --> 0:41:15.440 I have known you, you have been single, and you 0:41:16.480 --> 0:41:20.880 were officially single, like never had a boyfriend correct, correct 0:41:21.000 --> 0:41:23.200 until you were thirty nine years old, till I was 0:41:23.239 --> 0:41:24.200 there changed for you. 0:41:24.680 --> 0:41:25.320 Oh my goodness. 0:41:25.440 --> 0:41:28.480 Well honestly, so up until then, I've always been this 0:41:28.760 --> 0:41:31.440 this unicorn as you call it or whatever, I have 0:41:31.560 --> 0:41:35.880 always just like lived like my motto is played by year. 0:41:35.920 --> 0:41:37.920 I love to just go with the flow. Just what 0:41:38.080 --> 0:41:42.080 my friend group is everything to me. But it was 0:41:42.200 --> 0:41:45.720 just right time, right place, this amazing guy that I'm dating, 0:41:45.760 --> 0:41:48.840 who I know because of you, Aby, it was just 0:41:49.080 --> 0:41:51.279 the right time and the right person. Honestly, just the 0:41:51.360 --> 0:41:53.800 right person. He's the one of the most amazing people 0:41:54.040 --> 0:41:55.920 have I just literally was just telling him this yesterday. 0:41:55.960 --> 0:41:58.560 He's one of the best souls, one of the kindest, 0:41:58.640 --> 0:42:01.360 most Jenner people you will ever meet. And we have 0:42:01.480 --> 0:42:04.120 so much fun together. We're just exploring the city together 0:42:04.239 --> 0:42:06.400 and he's very adventurous too. He loves to hike mountains. 0:42:06.440 --> 0:42:09.680 He he and I spontaneously ran a race two weeks ago. 0:42:09.760 --> 0:42:11.920 We signed up for it the day before. He did 0:42:12.000 --> 0:42:14.000 the five k and I did a half marathon. 0:42:14.600 --> 0:42:17.839 And you need to be spontaneous to be with you. Yeah, 0:42:18.000 --> 0:42:20.239 I think that that's a big thing for me. I 0:42:20.400 --> 0:42:21.720 love just like everyone. 0:42:22.200 --> 0:42:24.600 Tatiana was actually like, talk about play it by your Nikki, 0:42:24.640 --> 0:42:25.759 because I was telling her I was going to be 0:42:25.800 --> 0:42:27.640 on this. But you know, from the beginning, I've always 0:42:27.719 --> 0:42:29.759 been like, let's play it by her. You never know 0:42:30.040 --> 0:42:32.759 when your last day on Earth is or anything, or 0:42:32.960 --> 0:42:34.839 how even just this day will end. Let's just feel 0:42:34.880 --> 0:42:36.400 it out, let's play it by your let's go with 0:42:36.480 --> 0:42:38.520 the flow and just see you know where the wind 0:42:38.560 --> 0:42:40.560 takes us. And I've always been that way ever since 0:42:40.640 --> 0:42:41.719 I was young. 0:42:42.160 --> 0:42:46.560 And yeah, I'm so happy for you. It's so happy 0:42:46.600 --> 0:42:47.040 to see you. 0:42:47.239 --> 0:42:51.360 In love and with someone who I have always admired, 0:42:51.400 --> 0:42:53.640 who I've done a lot of traveling with. I climed 0:42:53.680 --> 0:42:56.080 Mount Fuji with him. Actually, so sorry, the perfect I 0:42:56.239 --> 0:42:58.440 love seeing the two of you together. It's amazing. And 0:42:58.520 --> 0:43:01.920 something else I want to point out, you actually were 0:43:01.960 --> 0:43:04.719 the only person probably who was witnessed to TJ and I. 0:43:05.960 --> 0:43:07.160 I believe so was. 0:43:07.360 --> 0:43:08.560 There's a lot of people who have a lot of 0:43:08.600 --> 0:43:11.080 timelines in their mind or what they think happened or what, 0:43:11.239 --> 0:43:14.000 but you know, you saw it all happen. Oh my gosh, 0:43:14.040 --> 0:43:16.239 I saw it happen. I actually, I will say this. 0:43:16.360 --> 0:43:18.280 I had one one of your loyal fans. 0:43:18.320 --> 0:43:20.040 She literally was like, one day, you should be on 0:43:20.080 --> 0:43:22.160 the podcast, and I'd be like, ha ha, Hai would 0:43:22.200 --> 0:43:24.239 be terrible on her podcast because I'm a nervous person. 0:43:24.520 --> 0:43:26.560 But she literally wrote this the other day. Shout out 0:43:26.560 --> 0:43:29.400 to this random very kind stranger. But she was like 0:43:29.800 --> 0:43:33.000 talk about like how how how you guessed that they 0:43:33.080 --> 0:43:36.080 were together? And I this is how I guessed because 0:43:36.080 --> 0:43:40.200 I never saw you happier. I never saw you happier. 0:43:40.120 --> 0:43:41.920 Because TJ has mentioned a couple of times, and I 0:43:42.040 --> 0:43:44.719 understand he was you know, he didn't know that you knew, 0:43:44.800 --> 0:43:46.719 but you guessed, and you you came to me and 0:43:46.880 --> 0:43:47.879 I couldn't lie. 0:43:48.120 --> 0:43:50.160 There was you couldn't lie. There was just a new 0:43:50.200 --> 0:43:52.520 sparkle in your eye and I just knew that. And 0:43:52.640 --> 0:43:56.480 that was fall of twenty e was fall twenty two. 0:43:56.760 --> 0:44:01.240 Yes, exactly, yep, fall of twenty right or the cameras 0:44:01.280 --> 0:44:03.399 caught us and I hate oh, I didn't say caught 0:44:03.440 --> 0:44:06.520 us right before the cameras documented something we wanted to 0:44:06.560 --> 0:44:07.040 keep private. 0:44:07.080 --> 0:44:09.680 Absolutely, So I knew from the very beginning. I remember 0:44:09.760 --> 0:44:13.080 you calling me telling me about like, you know, all 0:44:13.120 --> 0:44:15.680 the new changes with you know, everything that was going 0:44:15.719 --> 0:44:17.640 on back in August, which you have you know, publicly 0:44:17.680 --> 0:44:22.080 talked about too. But it was until September of twenty 0:44:22.120 --> 0:44:24.399 twenty two then I was just like started to notice something. 0:44:24.560 --> 0:44:26.920 Yeah, I just saw how much more light you were? 0:44:27.160 --> 0:44:28.000 Is that okay to say? 0:44:28.280 --> 0:44:30.960 Just like you were just happier and in the sense 0:44:31.000 --> 0:44:33.719 of just you were like, what's going on? Yeah, I 0:44:33.800 --> 0:44:36.640 was like, tell me, tell it, Like how do I 0:44:36.680 --> 0:44:37.000 find this? 0:44:37.200 --> 0:44:37.879 You know what I mean? 0:44:38.280 --> 0:44:41.200 But then I just being with you guys, I've been 0:44:41.320 --> 0:44:42.680 I was just telling Chris this the other day. You 0:44:42.680 --> 0:44:47.160 guys are my family. You so being ava anna DJ 0:44:47.400 --> 0:44:49.720 oh my good, it's TJ. You guys are my family. 0:44:49.880 --> 0:44:50.160 That's it. 0:44:50.480 --> 0:44:52.600 And I that is at the end of the day 0:44:52.960 --> 0:44:57.399 to me, like I'm a minimalist, I don't have much, 0:44:57.800 --> 0:45:01.400 but I am rich because I have of a chosen 0:45:01.440 --> 0:45:03.040 family of want my actual family. 0:45:03.080 --> 0:45:05.400 I'm very close to them too. To me, that is 0:45:05.480 --> 0:45:05.960 what life is. 0:45:06.040 --> 0:45:10.040 It's it's connection, it's community, it's real deep friendship that 0:45:10.120 --> 0:45:12.400 we're talking about real life stuff with. It's not just 0:45:13.239 --> 0:45:15.759 just having fun. Yes, we can have fun, but it's 0:45:16.280 --> 0:45:18.480 deep talk. Even just before we started the podcast, we 0:45:18.560 --> 0:45:22.759 were talking about like deep talk and you're immediately You're like, 0:45:22.840 --> 0:45:24.680 you want to come pick the bean up. I'm like, yes, 0:45:24.840 --> 0:45:26.960 I do. Like that's just such an honor, you know, 0:45:27.080 --> 0:45:30.920 to be just trusted And like I recently read somewhere 0:45:30.920 --> 0:45:32.600 in one of my self help books, I love self 0:45:32.600 --> 0:45:36.000 help books. People just want to be seen, safe and supported, 0:45:36.560 --> 0:45:38.800 and I feel like that with y'all. I know I 0:45:38.920 --> 0:45:42.040 have my community out here, and that's what makes me 0:45:42.280 --> 0:45:44.399 internally rich, is that I can live in a tiny, 0:45:44.440 --> 0:45:46.920 little micro It makes me happy because I get to 0:45:46.960 --> 0:45:50.319 see you guys every day, and that to me is joy, and. 0:45:50.400 --> 0:45:54.360 That, to me is life. So I texted DJ scene, 0:45:54.960 --> 0:45:56.400 what is it? Scene supported? 0:45:56.600 --> 0:45:56.880 Safe? 0:45:57.000 --> 0:46:00.920 Scenes supported? I said, I said it wrong. I just 0:46:00.920 --> 0:46:02.319 screwed it up. But I might have. 0:46:04.719 --> 0:46:07.319 Ours for I think you. Yeah, we were talking about 0:46:07.320 --> 0:46:11.480 that yesterday, nicky Uh, I think everyone. I'm glad everyone 0:46:11.560 --> 0:46:13.520 gets to meet you and know you because you are 0:46:13.600 --> 0:46:18.520 such a special soul. And thank you for getting over 0:46:18.760 --> 0:46:21.000 your nerves. I know that you weren't exactly you know, 0:46:21.520 --> 0:46:24.200 thrilled about performing and you're not performing. I said, you 0:46:24.280 --> 0:46:25.720 just have to talk about you, which is what Anily 0:46:26.040 --> 0:46:27.879 told you as well. And so we just we want 0:46:27.880 --> 0:46:30.840 to thank you for always being a part of our family. 0:46:30.920 --> 0:46:33.400 You are our family. I mean TJ has said that 0:46:33.600 --> 0:46:34.320 plenty of times. 0:46:34.520 --> 0:46:37.400 Well again, think about scenes. I'd spend more time with you, 0:46:37.520 --> 0:46:38.960 and you're more of a part of her family than 0:46:39.000 --> 0:46:40.840 many of her relatives are. So I mean, that's just 0:46:40.880 --> 0:46:43.000 the way things have gone. But yeah, it's she doesn't 0:46:43.000 --> 0:46:46.719 know life without you. So I'll say that publicly and 0:46:46.840 --> 0:46:48.520 how much I love you and adore you and thank you. 0:46:48.840 --> 0:46:50.400 I'll say that publicly, but I say it to you 0:46:50.520 --> 0:46:51.480 privately too. 0:46:51.920 --> 0:46:53.800 Yeah, you are the sister that I've never had, and 0:46:53.880 --> 0:46:55.440 you were an aunt to my daughters. 0:46:55.560 --> 0:46:59.879 Oh my goodness. I call them my big little sister niece. 0:47:00.400 --> 0:47:02.279 That's what I call them, because I learned from them too, 0:47:02.440 --> 0:47:04.319 and soon that will be so being in the sense 0:47:04.320 --> 0:47:06.800 of a big little sister me or whatever, just his 0:47:06.960 --> 0:47:09.560 little sister that sounds like a new taller than me 0:47:09.840 --> 0:47:13.400 and a wiser than me more wise, definitely. But I 0:47:13.520 --> 0:47:15.959 learn a lot from them. And but thank you, guys. 0:47:16.840 --> 0:47:17.520 Let's go to lunch. 0:47:17.680 --> 0:47:21.160 Okay, we love you. We gotta get to being. 0:47:21.200 --> 0:47:21.920 We gotta go to lunch. 0:47:21.960 --> 0:47:24.520 But thank you, thank you, thank you. I love you. 0:47:25.000 --> 0:47:26.319 Having on, I love you, guys.