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Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, welcome to the podcast here. And Shotenfreuda, well

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Speaker 1: apparently I don't even know what that means. Please explain that,

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Speaker 1: you all. There's been so much that's been happening before

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Speaker 1: we hit record on this this episode, and shiden Freuda

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Speaker 1: was the last thing we hit on. Is that right?

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Speaker 2: Shotten with freude. I'm not really good shot in Florida.

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Speaker 2: I'm so bad at pronouncing German words. But my dad

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Speaker 2: was explaining it to me, as was my daughter who

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Speaker 2: is in Germany right now. But it's a word that

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Speaker 2: we actually don't have an equivalent for here in the

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Speaker 2: United States. Who out there has laughed at someone else falling?

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Speaker 2: That's the best way for me to describe it. So

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Speaker 2: you're taking some sort of okay, everyone raised their hands, yes, okay, please,

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Speaker 2: thank you, joined the club.

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Speaker 1: Can come on, everybody. There are whole YouTube videos that

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Speaker 1: go for an hour at points just showing people fall

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Speaker 1: because we laugh at that for some reason.

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Speaker 2: And the reason why we know that is because we

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Speaker 2: have watched many of those YouTube I think it's called fails.

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Speaker 1: That's not us, that's Sabine's. Sabine Holmes is completely responsible

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Speaker 1: for this. She's eleven years old and kids with an

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Speaker 1: iPhone they sit up and they just watch YouTube all day.

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Speaker 2: Yep.

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Speaker 1: Oh, God's no. But this is one time that YouTube

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Speaker 1: paid off for us.

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Speaker 2: Yes, So we have been for whatever reason in this

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Speaker 2: past year. How many times have we seen people falling

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Speaker 2: around us? I had?

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Speaker 1: Has anybody seen the movie Radius? Okay, it's a horror movie.

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Speaker 1: You haven't seen it. It's called Radius, and this guy

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Speaker 1: essentially has a radius around him to where anybody comes

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Speaker 1: in that radius, they die right at the premise. Okay,

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Speaker 1: so it's a fascinating movie to watch. But I argue

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Speaker 1: that I have a radius around me when it comes

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Speaker 1: to people falling, and if you're around me within about

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Speaker 1: ten to twenty feet, it's a good chance you might

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Speaker 2: I can confirm that because when I'm walking next to you,

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Speaker 2: I cannot I'm like, this statistically cannot get possible. How

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Speaker 2: many times? And then you feel bad because we actually

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Speaker 2: I don't want anyone to see me laughing at them falling.

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Speaker 2: I mean, they're okay, they're hurt. It's just comical. It's

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Speaker 2: like physical comedy, like The Three Stooges. Kind of stuff.

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Speaker 2: We have to walk in opposite directions almost run because

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Speaker 2: we're laughing or tears are coming out of our eyes,

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Speaker 2: and I and we can't be together because it's even funnier.

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Speaker 1: I'm thinking about some of them now and I got

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Speaker 1: tears and I'm wiping in my eyes because the funniest

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Speaker 1: some of the bunnies want. Okay, when one person takes

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Speaker 1: out the other, that was the best. Oh wow, yes.

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Speaker 1: But then when kids fall out of the strollers, they're

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Speaker 2: They bounced though they have a lot of cartilage, a

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Speaker 2: lot of baby fat. Didn't see anyone crying even but

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Speaker 2: we that's happened twice in front of us.

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Speaker 1: Okay, y'all look in judgment right now. Yeah, okay, okay,

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Speaker 1: you'll know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: And then runners, runners, we had so many runners just

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Speaker 1: Hardest things would have ever thought. I don't ski.

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Speaker 2: But when you're skiing and someone has some like unbelievable

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Speaker 1: That's not the stuff we're talking about. Stuff we see

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Speaker 3: And then they always look back like, what, how did

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Speaker 1: Wow? What's wrong with this sidewalk?

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Speaker 2: No? I slipped on a banana peel the other day.

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Speaker 2: That actually happened. I told you I took a picture

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Speaker 2: of it because I knew you wouldn't believe me. It's

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Speaker 3: Would you see that happen?

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Speaker 2: But I slipped and almost fell. I also turned around

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Speaker 2: and said what was that? And it actually was a

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Speaker 1: Do you sent me a picture? You send me a

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Speaker 1: picture of a banana?

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Speaker 2: It was a fresh banana?

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Speaker 1: People, okay fresh now now you're going fresh?

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Speaker 2: Okay, brand new banana? Puel media. It was ready to

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Speaker 2: slide anyway. They there's a German word basically that says

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Speaker 1: But that's where I got in with the back and point.

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Speaker 1: I just asked you, hey, send the ask your dad,

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Speaker 1: a difference in Florida shot in Freuda. There's a difference

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Speaker 1: trying to separate what this word. I think that's evil.

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Speaker 1: This is more like.

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Speaker 2: Just come on, this is human nature. There is something

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Speaker 3: Anyway, that's just one of It's a great word.

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Speaker 1: Who sent it? Was at your day?

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Speaker 2: I don't know. But obviously he's busy, the retired man

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Speaker 3: Break the voicemail.

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Speaker 1: Dad got else? You just took a shot at your dad,

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Speaker 2: All right? Okay? He knows.

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Speaker 1: I love him, you know what, but he does his

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Speaker 1: uh the charity work, delivers the meals, right, oh.

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Speaker 2: He do you know what? That what he's doing? He

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Speaker 1: Don't have time with your shot and froud oh whatever

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Speaker 2: But yeah, you're right, he might be doing charity work.

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Speaker 2: Now now i'd go offul I'm not taking Yeah, that's tough.

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Speaker 1: Okay. So all this was that out again. We didn't

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Speaker 1: we were talking about that before we started. The other

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Speaker 1: thing was therapy. That look, we've talked about here, like

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Speaker 1: to have someone like you were arguing, validating, Like there's

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Speaker 1: the same time what our experiences are and our guest

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Speaker 1: has dealt with some therapy as well, like what is

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Speaker 1: for us in terms of reading a book from Michael

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Speaker 1: Singer or else somebody. I'm forgetting Ekartole versus and then

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Speaker 1: putting that stuff into practicing your everyday life versus of

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Speaker 2: It's interesting because I think maybe it's it's a combination.

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Speaker 2: I mean, Gabby Bernstein, Michael Singer, Ekartole, all these people

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Speaker 2: they really do have insightful things to say that apply

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Speaker 2: become Ego lists is basically what it is. It's about,

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Speaker 2: you know, thinking instead of what am I not getting,

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Speaker 2: So I think those are amazing things to You're laughing

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Speaker 2: are you laughing? Yeah, that's not why you're laughing.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, we need therapy.

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Speaker 1: Because you went into it. But I'm thinking about fine,

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Speaker 1: I'm thinking about Saturday, okay.

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Speaker 2: That's why people meditate. I think that's why people do

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Speaker 1: When you need help, you what is your thought then?

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Speaker 1: On what I hear from people oftentimes is that you, yes,

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Speaker 2: I mean, I think it's such a personal individual thing

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Speaker 2: and if it works for you, that's great. I have

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Speaker 3: Therapy over the last fifteen years it's absurd.

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Speaker 2: I don't even want to know how much money I've spent,

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Speaker 2: something that was going to make me better.

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Speaker 1: Yes, Scott, thank goodness you spent that money, because I

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Speaker 1: am the beneficiary of all Oh my god, I am

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Speaker 1: the beneficiary of all that money spent.

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Speaker 2: It's a work in Progressjay, it's a work in progress.

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Speaker 1: Uh yeah, but today we do have And folks have

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Speaker 1: heard plenty of times on this podcast even but over

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Speaker 1: have heard the name Nikki a whole lot. Nicky, Nicky, Nicki,

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Speaker 1: Nikki is the best You have been your best friend eight.

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Speaker 2: She is the person I turned to when I'm in

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Speaker 2: People have absolutely raised their eyebrows and said, what's going

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Speaker 3: Absolutely speaking Okay, everybody like, can I talk?

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Speaker 4: We I've also gotten assistant. People have many people have

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Speaker 3: There's like maybe two people that ever called me.

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Speaker 4: Well, first of all, I had to like look away

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Speaker 4: she and I'm talking about my love for dogs, and

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00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:26,640
Speaker 4: she was like, would you ever want to dog sit

437
00:21:26,880 --> 00:21:30,720
Speaker 4: one day? Is that a possibility? Like your like apartment

438
00:21:30,840 --> 00:21:34,119
Speaker 4: sit enjoy my apartment on the Upper West Side at

439
00:21:34,119 --> 00:21:36,800
Speaker 4: the time, or Hell's kitchen this is where she lived.

440
00:21:37,119 --> 00:21:38,960
Speaker 4: And I was like, sure, I love dogs, of course,

441
00:21:39,040 --> 00:21:42,280
Speaker 4: let's do this. So I start not only training her,

442
00:21:42,480 --> 00:21:45,840
Speaker 4: I'm dog sitting for her. And then let's fast forward to.

443
00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:49,480
Speaker 2: Well you you you trained, so you trained Sarah? You

444
00:21:49,760 --> 00:21:53,159
Speaker 2: you you dog sat for her. Then she introduces you

445
00:21:53,240 --> 00:21:53,720
Speaker 2: to ginger Z.

446
00:21:53,920 --> 00:21:56,640
Speaker 4: To ginger Z in twenty fourteen, so then you're dog

447
00:21:56,680 --> 00:21:58,840
Speaker 4: and I think start dog hitting and did you train

448
00:21:58,920 --> 00:22:00,439
Speaker 4: dog or just not dream her?

449
00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:02,720
Speaker 3: I just dogs. I loved her dog so much. I

450
00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:04,200
Speaker 3: actually dog sat dog walk.

451
00:22:04,280 --> 00:22:06,800
Speaker 4: I actually gave up a few clients to walk her

452
00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:09,000
Speaker 4: dog every day because I loved him so much.

453
00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:12,480
Speaker 2: Nicki loves dogs and she loves kids she doesn't have.

454
00:22:13,720 --> 00:22:16,359
Speaker 2: And then you so I was twenty fifteen. I go

455
00:22:16,440 --> 00:22:18,560
Speaker 2: to ginger and I needed a dog sitter, and she

456
00:22:18,760 --> 00:22:21,359
Speaker 2: was like, actually I know this girl. I met her

457
00:22:21,400 --> 00:22:24,080
Speaker 2: through Sarah Haynes, and she also is a personal trainer.

458
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Speaker 2: If you need that, I'm like, actually that it sounds amazing.

459
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Speaker 2: Will you give me her number? So if you look

460
00:22:29,160 --> 00:22:31,600
Speaker 2: in my phone when your name comes up, it still

461
00:22:31,640 --> 00:22:35,520
Speaker 2: says it says trainer, Nikkia. Yeah, that doesn't say dog sitter.

462
00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:38,640
Speaker 2: That wasn't your trade. You're a trainer. And so you started,

463
00:22:39,760 --> 00:22:43,119
Speaker 2: you know, helping me out walk and not really walking Brody,

464
00:22:43,160 --> 00:22:46,000
Speaker 2: but taking care of him when I'm traveling, apartment sitting yep.

465
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Speaker 3: And then and then I said I'd actually love a

466
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Speaker 3: personal trainer.

467
00:22:49,760 --> 00:22:49,920
Speaker 1: Yep.

468
00:22:50,040 --> 00:22:52,879
Speaker 2: So I was coming out of breast cancer, and I

469
00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:55,080
Speaker 2: knew I wanted to get, you know, more fit after

470
00:22:55,160 --> 00:22:57,840
Speaker 2: everything I'd been through. So you and I started training.

471
00:22:58,000 --> 00:23:01,080
Speaker 2: And the one thing about Nicki is when she trained someone,

472
00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:03,800
Speaker 2: she's not just physically training them. It's also I learned

473
00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:06,160
Speaker 2: a therapy session to go back to our theme therapy.

474
00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:10,080
Speaker 2: So I started thinking, like, this girl is so interesting.

475
00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:12,840
Speaker 2: I mean, she and the training would just fly by

476
00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:16,119
Speaker 2: because we'd be talking about our feelings and what we

477
00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:18,600
Speaker 2: think about the about life and all of this stuff.

478
00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:20,760
Speaker 2: And so I started learning things about you, and you

479
00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:22,800
Speaker 2: told me at that point, and I find this so

480
00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:27,159
Speaker 2: interesting that you were eight years sober, that's right. And

481
00:23:28,080 --> 00:23:32,840
Speaker 2: I started asking you questions and you explained what happened.

482
00:23:33,560 --> 00:23:37,159
Speaker 4: So back in I think my last drink, like I

483
00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:40,160
Speaker 4: partied haired in college, and then my first few years

484
00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:43,520
Speaker 4: here that one year in New York City, Hawaii as well.

485
00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:46,200
Speaker 4: When I got back from Hawaiian and Brazil, I got

486
00:23:46,280 --> 00:23:50,080
Speaker 4: back here and I was just like, I didn't have

487
00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:55,600
Speaker 4: a great experience at a party once, at a work

488
00:23:55,640 --> 00:23:57,359
Speaker 4: party once, and I was like, I'm done, Like I

489
00:23:57,440 --> 00:23:59,719
Speaker 4: just don't want to drink anymore. So when I got

490
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Speaker 4: back from Brazil in twenty ten, I was like or

491
00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:04,280
Speaker 4: two thousand and nine or so, I was like, I think,

492
00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:05,200
Speaker 4: I'm just not going to drink.

493
00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:07,159
Speaker 3: And I just was able to cut it out of

494
00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:08,040
Speaker 3: my life. Cold tricky.

495
00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:11,320
Speaker 4: So I get back to New York City. I'm putting

496
00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:15,560
Speaker 4: all my energy into training and working and everything. And

497
00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:17,440
Speaker 4: at the same time, I didn't really have like a

498
00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:20,119
Speaker 4: close friend group or anything. Didn't have y'all at the

499
00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:23,080
Speaker 4: time or anything. So I was just like, I don't

500
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Speaker 4: I'm just not going to drink. And I just wasn't

501
00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:27,600
Speaker 4: tempted to, I didn't feel like I needed to, didn't

502
00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:29,879
Speaker 4: want to. So for eight years I just did not

503
00:24:30,040 --> 00:24:33,560
Speaker 4: have one drink. And then it wasn't until I met

504
00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:37,400
Speaker 4: my group of friends that i'm very still like, still

505
00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:40,080
Speaker 4: very close to. I was like, I finally feel like

506
00:24:40,119 --> 00:24:41,760
Speaker 4: I found a group of people that I feel safe

507
00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:42,639
Speaker 4: drinking with.

508
00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:45,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I started eating back into it as a woman.

509
00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:46,920
Speaker 3: That makes a lot of sense.

510
00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:49,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, And then you eat back and how and how

511
00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:52,440
Speaker 2: do you feel now about about your drinking habits. I

512
00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:54,720
Speaker 2: feel very very.

513
00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:55,960
Speaker 3: Healthy with it. It's not something.

514
00:24:56,160 --> 00:25:00,440
Speaker 4: I'm a social drinker. I love like the you actually

515
00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:03,200
Speaker 4: taught me this phrase. I drink to enhance joy, not

516
00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:03,960
Speaker 4: to mask pain.

517
00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:05,920
Speaker 2: So I I love it.

518
00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:08,760
Speaker 4: I love going out to our our lunches getting rose.

519
00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:11,680
Speaker 4: I love our run to run to fun. Whenever I

520
00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:13,480
Speaker 4: go running with you guys, let's grab it be speaking

521
00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:17,560
Speaker 4: to the afternoon now, yeah, fun. Because I feel safe

522
00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:21,119
Speaker 4: with y'all. I feel safe with with you know. I

523
00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:23,720
Speaker 4: think that's a big thing. Actually, just when I won't

524
00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:27,480
Speaker 4: just drink with anybody, I need to know that I'm

525
00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:28,440
Speaker 4: in a safe environment.

526
00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:30,560
Speaker 3: So I have a very healthy relationship with it.

527
00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:32,800
Speaker 2: But I enjoy it. I have fun.

528
00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:34,240
Speaker 3: I love a good glad. Are we gonna get rose

529
00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:34,560
Speaker 3: after this?

530
00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:35,040
Speaker 2: Can we?

531
00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:38,920
Speaker 3: Well it's not dry January anymore? Yes, let's do it.

532
00:25:40,119 --> 00:25:42,000
Speaker 1: And I wanted to be clear that you you had

533
00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:45,800
Speaker 1: a bad experience, but you didn't have some drinking. Probably.

534
00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:46,680
Speaker 1: I just wanted to make sure.

535
00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:48,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, Actually I.

536
00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:50,719
Speaker 4: Appreciate you meuntioning that because there were only a lot

537
00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:53,360
Speaker 4: of people. Yes, yes, yes, actually I appreciate you saying

538
00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:56,639
Speaker 4: that it was an uh No, I never I know,

539
00:25:56,800 --> 00:25:57,480
Speaker 4: was never addicted.

540
00:25:57,560 --> 00:25:59,680
Speaker 3: I was never like an alcoholic or anything like that.

541
00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:02,680
Speaker 2: Someone else who put you in an uncomfortable situation and

542
00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:06,000
Speaker 2: you didn't feel like being under the influence in any

543
00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:07,080
Speaker 2: way helped the situation.

544
00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:08,119
Speaker 3: So it was scary.

545
00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:08,720
Speaker 2: Absolutely.

546
00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:12,080
Speaker 4: It was actually at at my first corporate job and

547
00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:15,200
Speaker 4: it was a work party, and it just it it

548
00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:17,520
Speaker 4: was just not a good situation to get.

549
00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:20,119
Speaker 3: It was just wasn't a good situation.

550
00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:21,320
Speaker 1: Do you remember the date of that party?

551
00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:24,000
Speaker 3: December something two thousand.

552
00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:26,840
Speaker 2: Wow, Because something is different. Like so when I said

553
00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:29,400
Speaker 2: she should knowed that, she also has this incredible memory.

554
00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:32,920
Speaker 2: Where so a if you ever are going to be

555
00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:34,760
Speaker 2: in any sort of disagreement, and we don't fight that much.

556
00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:36,479
Speaker 3: We've had a couple fights.

557
00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:40,480
Speaker 2: Sure, but I would never dare say I said or

558
00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:42,840
Speaker 2: didn't say something, because you would be able to almost rebate.

559
00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:45,520
Speaker 2: Tell me what I said, or but I didn't say that.

560
00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:47,040
Speaker 2: You say it in the nicest way, like I don't

561
00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:50,240
Speaker 2: think that's what you said. Actually, keeping on the stay, Yeah,

562
00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:53,200
Speaker 2: and then you can tell me the date that it happened,

563
00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:54,639
Speaker 2: and you can sometimes you can tell me what I

564
00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:55,240
Speaker 2: was wearing.

565
00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:57,480
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, I could tell you the dates I met.

566
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Speaker 1: Y'all say, I'm trying to think, move to our audience

567
00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:03,240
Speaker 1: right now. Oh god, that she does it. No, you

568
00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:06,600
Speaker 1: wouldn't fail to test, obviously. But it's been bizarre the

569
00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:08,920
Speaker 1: times we can say when was the thing and you

570
00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:10,720
Speaker 1: go boom right off the top of your hands.

571
00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:12,680
Speaker 4: Just recently, you guys were like, hey, when did you

572
00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:14,639
Speaker 4: go to Marie's crisis with a Nick and Adam last year?

573
00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:16,800
Speaker 4: And I said it was April seventh of twenty twenty three,

574
00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:20,000
Speaker 4: but Amy pulled up the pictures like she was right,

575
00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:22,200
Speaker 4: it was April seventh. Right, I can little thing like

576
00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:27,280
Speaker 4: document it on my little things also like sure, my mind,

577
00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:31,160
Speaker 4: my brain, but also pictures and stuff. I love taking pictures, videos,

578
00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:33,520
Speaker 4: I love documenting like you know, Instagram stuff.

579
00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:36,320
Speaker 3: But it's because of that, like pictures from Oh we

580
00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:37,320
Speaker 3: took it on April seventh.

581
00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:39,040
Speaker 2: All right, So what's the day you met TJ?

582
00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:42,400
Speaker 4: So there was an actual day that I met TJ

583
00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:46,679
Speaker 4: at the studio in Times Square with Sabine, Little Sabine,

584
00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:50,119
Speaker 4: she was so cute's so little, But that was in passing.

585
00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:51,920
Speaker 3: That was in passing, Oh TJ. Sabine.

586
00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:55,640
Speaker 4: But when we actually, like, the first day I babysat

587
00:27:56,920 --> 00:28:01,240
Speaker 4: Sabine was June first, twenty nineteen.

588
00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:02,400
Speaker 2: WHOA.

589
00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:05,680
Speaker 4: So I and I do know this because the day

590
00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:11,240
Speaker 4: before Amy me, Amy, like us and some friends went

591
00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:14,320
Speaker 4: out and we're all just having drinks and enjoying.

592
00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:15,120
Speaker 2: Oh, TJ.

593
00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:17,480
Speaker 4: Holmes needs a babysitter tomorrow. Is there any chance that

594
00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:19,359
Speaker 4: you're interested? I was like, oh, hell yeah, let's do

595
00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:31,119
Speaker 4: this all right, I'm gonna test you again. What's the

596
00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:35,240
Speaker 4: first what's the first day that we met that you

597
00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:39,440
Speaker 4: came and dogs hat? The first day that I dog set? Well, okay,

598
00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:41,360
Speaker 4: either one more day we met or the first day

599
00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:42,200
Speaker 4: you dog sat.

600
00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:45,360
Speaker 3: First day we met was August thirteenth, twenty fifteen. Oh

601
00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:47,560
Speaker 3: my gosh, it's weird. And I'll always remember when I

602
00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:49,440
Speaker 3: met you. Guys, I don't know what it is.

603
00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:52,400
Speaker 2: And you remember the first day you came over to

604
00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:56,640
Speaker 2: watch Brody. It was two days later, like August fifteenth, that.

605
00:28:57,240 --> 00:29:03,720
Speaker 1: We had so at Oh was that just us three? Yeah?

606
00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:05,760
Speaker 2: I didn't even remember Robert.

607
00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:08,760
Speaker 4: I actually remember it was August sixth, twenty twenty three,

608
00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:11,440
Speaker 4: because Amy and I went shopping that day and then

609
00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:14,040
Speaker 4: you met up with us. We were shopping in Soho

610
00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:17,000
Speaker 4: and then you met up with us at that place

611
00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:17,720
Speaker 4: on Houston.

612
00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:21,240
Speaker 3: I don't even remember the corner there, guys.

613
00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:22,400
Speaker 2: I have the worst memory.

614
00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:26,080
Speaker 3: I am the opposite of detective, but the favorite one

615
00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:26,640
Speaker 3: for me.

616
00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:30,160
Speaker 1: And you'll remember there was a particular something between the

617
00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:34,480
Speaker 1: two of us that you she's already you sat I

618
00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:37,280
Speaker 1: think you're the only witness to this, right, Okay, He

619
00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:41,320
Speaker 1: sat up in a dead sleep and woke up and

620
00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:42,680
Speaker 1: shouted out my birthday.

621
00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:44,080
Speaker 2: I know this.

622
00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:45,800
Speaker 3: Hold on, this is a fun game.

623
00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:46,520
Speaker 2: It was.

624
00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:51,120
Speaker 3: It was Halloween. It was hollow because we went to

625
00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:51,720
Speaker 3: Ava show.

626
00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:56,240
Speaker 4: We walked through that parade. Yep, we get to your apartment.

627
00:29:57,560 --> 00:29:59,960
Speaker 4: I were on the couch I fell asleep watching a movie.

628
00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:03,680
Speaker 4: TJ's on the floor, and then out of nowhere, I

629
00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:06,560
Speaker 4: was talking to TJ. I don't know, you just scream

630
00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:09,680
Speaker 4: August nineteenth. And he goes, wait, what did you just say?

631
00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:11,720
Speaker 4: And then you don't even remember that.

632
00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:14,120
Speaker 2: I didn't remember. The next day I was in work,

633
00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:17,040
Speaker 2: TJ walks by my dressing room and he said, hey, Robes,

634
00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:19,800
Speaker 2: when's my birthday? And I was like, huh. And so

635
00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:23,360
Speaker 2: I looked to my producer, Danesca, and she's I look

636
00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:24,719
Speaker 2: at her, and we have we have we can make

637
00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:25,200
Speaker 2: eye contact.

638
00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:26,760
Speaker 3: She knows what I mean. She's like, I'm looking it up.

639
00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:28,320
Speaker 2: So she looked it up and she whispers to me

640
00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:31,040
Speaker 2: August nineteenth and I say, I'll get nineteenth. And he

641
00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:33,160
Speaker 2: said did you know that? I said no, Daneska just

642
00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:34,640
Speaker 2: told me. He's like, do you know what you said

643
00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:38,479
Speaker 2: last night on the couch? Nope, I screamed August nineteenth.

644
00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:41,360
Speaker 2: We still can't understand it. I don't think anyone will

645
00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:42,960
Speaker 2: believe it unless you witnessed it.

646
00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:45,720
Speaker 1: Again, you were the only Nikki's only witnessed it. But

647
00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:48,560
Speaker 1: this was before there was anything between.

648
00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:51,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, they were just friends. This is years before two years.

649
00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:56,000
Speaker 1: Before at you a complete dead sleeps new and I

650
00:30:56,200 --> 00:30:59,640
Speaker 1: were just we're just talking. We're the World Series game

651
00:30:59,800 --> 00:31:00,680
Speaker 1: or football game.

652
00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:03,080
Speaker 3: Yes, I ordered pizza out.

653
00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:05,880
Speaker 1: And we're talking. Everybody else's passed out, and you just

654
00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:09,360
Speaker 1: shut up on the couch, spread out nineteenth.

655
00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:13,160
Speaker 3: It's weird. I don't even have an explanation for it.

656
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Speaker 3: It's one of those boobs.

657
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Speaker 4: Halloween of twenty twenty one, twenty twenty one, Yes, twenty

658
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Speaker 4: twenty one.

659
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Speaker 1: There it is.

660
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Speaker 3: Yeah, Oh my goodness, it's anyways, if you guys need

661
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Speaker 3: help with your.

662
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Speaker 1: Day, have you heard of I mesia? I have not.

663
00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:28,240
Speaker 2: What is that?

664
00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:32,400
Speaker 1: They say, that's what you have. It's someone's ability to

665
00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:37,280
Speaker 1: spontaneously recall the dates and details of events that happened

666
00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:37,800
Speaker 1: in their life.

667
00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:40,800
Speaker 2: Wow. Yeah, And oh my gosh, even small ones like

668
00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:43,680
Speaker 2: you it. I can't tell you how many times it

669
00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:45,920
Speaker 2: happens where you all just kind of be saying what

670
00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:49,040
Speaker 2: was that, and you'll just shout out the exact date

671
00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:50,600
Speaker 2: and then, like I said, you can tell me what

672
00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:53,360
Speaker 2: I'm where I was wearing sometimes, Oh my gosh. Really weird.

673
00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:55,240
Speaker 3: Oh absolutely, but you remember when you wore that?

674
00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:55,680
Speaker 2: No?

675
00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:58,680
Speaker 3: Also, because like I just I have pictures too.

676
00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:01,440
Speaker 2: It's like, like it doesn't matter. I have pictures too.

677
00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:04,320
Speaker 2: I have I have the opposite condition that you have.

678
00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:09,400
Speaker 2: I can't remember anything. I'm like when it humh, oh

679
00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:11,920
Speaker 2: my god. It's a fun little game we can play.

680
00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:15,400
Speaker 3: We can I love the can do day.

681
00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:20,239
Speaker 2: So wait, So if you google Nikki Aspina, I did

682
00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:22,520
Speaker 2: it today. There's there's a lot of you out there.

683
00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:25,880
Speaker 2: But one of the funny things you will find if

684
00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:29,640
Speaker 2: you google Nikki Aspina is she made headlines. You. You

685
00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:35,520
Speaker 2: went viral last year because of how you live and

686
00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:38,040
Speaker 2: where you live and how much you pay to do that.

687
00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:40,080
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, everyone knows how much I do.

688
00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:44,920
Speaker 2: It's New York City. But please tell our listeners because

689
00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:46,720
Speaker 2: this is going to blow your mind everyone.

690
00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:49,280
Speaker 1: First of all, how much as you're.

691
00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:53,680
Speaker 4: In seventeen fifty Okay, that sounds great, rights, yeah.

692
00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:56,920
Speaker 1: In New York. Now, what is the square foot of

693
00:32:57,000 --> 00:32:57,440
Speaker 1: your apartment?

694
00:32:58,200 --> 00:32:59,120
Speaker 3: Eighty square feet?

695
00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:02,520
Speaker 2: Eighty eight note eight hundred eighty.

696
00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:06,440
Speaker 4: Square feet, which so basically here's the story with that.

697
00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:08,040
Speaker 3: So have you guys heard of Calebsimson.

698
00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:10,080
Speaker 4: He is known for going up to people in the

699
00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:13,040
Speaker 4: streets spontaneously and being like, hey, excuse me how much

700
00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:14,640
Speaker 4: do you pay for rents in New York City? And

701
00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:17,840
Speaker 4: they'll stop and be like two thousand dollars, three thousand dollars.

702
00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:21,560
Speaker 4: So I came across his videos his Instagram exactly a

703
00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:24,960
Speaker 4: year ago, about a year ago, and jokingly, I was

704
00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:27,560
Speaker 4: just scrolling through his feed and I loved it, and

705
00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:29,800
Speaker 4: one of my friends was like, Nikki, you should ask

706
00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:32,600
Speaker 4: him on I reposted a video of his One of

707
00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:34,760
Speaker 4: my friends was like, you should get him to come

708
00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:35,719
Speaker 4: to your micro studio.

709
00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:37,120
Speaker 2: So I put.

710
00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:40,920
Speaker 4: Jokingly on my store, Caleb Simpson, come toward my micro studio.

711
00:33:41,280 --> 00:33:44,160
Speaker 4: He responds within ten minutes saying when can I come

712
00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:46,600
Speaker 4: over to do the store. I actually didn't respond for

713
00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:49,360
Speaker 4: maybe twelve hours because I was like, I was kind

714
00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:51,280
Speaker 4: of kidding, and I don't know if I want you

715
00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:52,280
Speaker 4: coming over to my place.

716
00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:54,360
Speaker 3: And I get nervous about things like this. So I

717
00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:56,440
Speaker 3: was you know who encouraged me to do it?

718
00:33:56,600 --> 00:33:56,719
Speaker 2: Right?

719
00:33:57,320 --> 00:34:00,640
Speaker 1: Anna? Oh yeah, it's typical.

720
00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:03,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, And he's like yoo, yeah.

721
00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:05,600
Speaker 4: She was literally like just you, it'll be fine. She

722
00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:06,960
Speaker 4: helps me like figure out what I was going to

723
00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:09,520
Speaker 4: wear on it, and everything was so funny. Anyways, long

724
00:34:09,560 --> 00:34:13,239
Speaker 4: story short, he comes over and he very cool guy. Him,

725
00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:16,920
Speaker 4: the guy that shot the video or whatever, come over.

726
00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:20,360
Speaker 4: Very cool guys. They're literally only over for maybe twenty

727
00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:22,640
Speaker 4: thirty minutes because there's not well, it's.

728
00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:23,680
Speaker 3: Just you don't have to tour it.

729
00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:26,360
Speaker 2: They about to ask you where your bed was.

730
00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:29,200
Speaker 4: Oh my goodness, So I have a which is funny

731
00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:32,560
Speaker 4: because this is the most amount of I get dms

732
00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:35,080
Speaker 4: left and right about my Murphy bed, which, by the way,

733
00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:36,760
Speaker 4: it came completely furnished.

734
00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:38,680
Speaker 3: So not completely furnished.

735
00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:41,160
Speaker 2: I bought. Well then totally worth the bright Oh totally

736
00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:44,279
Speaker 2: and there's free WiFi. Oh oh wow great?

737
00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:47,719
Speaker 1: How do you furnish eighty square feet?

738
00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:51,080
Speaker 4: Well, I do want to also say so when I

739
00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:53,640
Speaker 4: was looking at it in twenty nineteen, Amy comes over.

740
00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:56,560
Speaker 3: I honestly don't know what your thoughts were. When I

741
00:34:56,640 --> 00:34:57,160
Speaker 3: showed it to you.

742
00:34:57,280 --> 00:35:01,520
Speaker 2: I thought it was size she gets perfect for you.

743
00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:03,839
Speaker 4: So literally I was like, this is where I want

744
00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:05,960
Speaker 4: to live. So mind you, I lived in an actual

745
00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:06,960
Speaker 4: studio what you're calling it?

746
00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:07,239
Speaker 1: TJ.

747
00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:09,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was like, what did I call that place?

748
00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:11,120
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, Oh my goodness.

749
00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:15,919
Speaker 2: So he lived in basically an empty you I said

750
00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:21,759
Speaker 2: it was a sad divorced man's apartment. Yeah, so I right,

751
00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:26,839
Speaker 2: it was your place day.

752
00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:32,400
Speaker 4: There was nothing like I used to So I consider

753
00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:35,359
Speaker 4: myself a minimalist, as in, I don't own a lot

754
00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:39,640
Speaker 4: of stuff this old place on the Upper east Side. Literally,

755
00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:42,080
Speaker 4: dad nothing hanging on my walls, and I had a

756
00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:43,120
Speaker 4: twin size bed.

757
00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:44,479
Speaker 3: I didn't even have a TV.

758
00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:45,560
Speaker 2: It was so sad.

759
00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:48,640
Speaker 4: And when you take a picture frame, Amy and an

760
00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:52,000
Speaker 4: Ava came to it was that that big blizzard that

761
00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:54,360
Speaker 4: happened and they came to stay at my place that

762
00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:57,640
Speaker 4: one night, and anyways, it was just there's no decorations.

763
00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:00,479
Speaker 4: So long story short, I lived there for ten years,

764
00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:02,520
Speaker 4: you guys on the Upper east Side, and then I

765
00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:04,399
Speaker 4: was just spending all my time down in the West

766
00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:06,959
Speaker 4: Village with our you know, you live down there. Joan

767
00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:09,759
Speaker 4: Preston lived down there. Pretty much everyone lived down there

768
00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:10,880
Speaker 4: that I was hanging out with. I was like, I'm

769
00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:13,319
Speaker 4: gonna try to get downtown. Actually, so I looked at

770
00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:16,560
Speaker 4: so many places, like maybe twenty places in twenty nineteen

771
00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:20,120
Speaker 4: while we're training for the marathon, and then all of

772
00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:22,680
Speaker 4: a sudden, this micro studio pops up on Street Easy

773
00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:24,399
Speaker 4: and I'm like, this is the one.

774
00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:25,320
Speaker 2: Oh my goodness.

775
00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:27,640
Speaker 3: So I look at it and I actually got approved

776
00:36:27,719 --> 00:36:28,959
Speaker 3: within like a week.

777
00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:31,920
Speaker 2: No one else, no one else, because none of it

778
00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:32,920
Speaker 2: live in.

779
00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:36,040
Speaker 4: Eighty square heats except for actually a very good point.

780
00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:38,960
Speaker 4: So in the sense of so I see it, it's

781
00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:40,280
Speaker 4: I have to show you guys pictures.

782
00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:42,440
Speaker 3: So it's viral. Everyone check it out on callobseay. You

783
00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:45,239
Speaker 3: have five million views or something, which is easy.

784
00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:48,719
Speaker 2: People like it's jaw dropping to see someone living in

785
00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:49,840
Speaker 2: eighty square quakeness.

786
00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:52,040
Speaker 3: And if you read the comments there, so one moaning

787
00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:54,360
Speaker 3: c you have like how many like how many plates

788
00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:54,640
Speaker 3: do you have?

789
00:36:54,719 --> 00:36:57,520
Speaker 2: Lates? I have four plates, three bowls.

790
00:36:58,120 --> 00:37:01,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, I can literally tell you everything little, but I'm

791
00:37:01,239 --> 00:37:03,160
Speaker 4: just a big So when I lived in Hawaii, I

792
00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:06,560
Speaker 4: racked up a lot of debt, and when I got back,

793
00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:08,359
Speaker 4: I was like, I got to pay off this debt,

794
00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:10,759
Speaker 4: and I ended up selling a bunch of This is

795
00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:11,880
Speaker 4: how I got into minimalism.

796
00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:12,680
Speaker 3: Selling.

797
00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:15,480
Speaker 4: I kept everything from college. I used to actually like

798
00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:17,440
Speaker 4: be a packer. I used to keep every little thing,

799
00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:18,240
Speaker 4: even receipts.

800
00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:21,360
Speaker 3: It was just so weird. So I go back to

801
00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:22,120
Speaker 3: my parents' house.

802
00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:24,960
Speaker 4: I stay there before I moved to Brazil, for a

803
00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:27,160
Speaker 4: few months, for maybe two months with them, and while

804
00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:32,080
Speaker 4: I'm there, I actually sold everything that I wasn't using.

805
00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:34,400
Speaker 4: I was like, I don't need I used to surf,

806
00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:36,719
Speaker 4: I don't need three surfboards. I'm gonna sell them. Am

807
00:37:36,719 --> 00:37:38,759
Speaker 4: I using these? So let me sell these? So I

808
00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:41,080
Speaker 4: actually made enough money to pay off the debt I

809
00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:43,320
Speaker 4: racked up in Hawaii. And it was then that I

810
00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:46,680
Speaker 4: was like, I don't need a lot of stuff. Minimalism

811
00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:49,840
Speaker 4: to me is because one of the biggest comments I

812
00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:52,920
Speaker 4: like left and right, so it goes either or so

813
00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:54,719
Speaker 4: many people saying this is so great? How did you

814
00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:56,880
Speaker 4: get into minimalism? And then there are definitely a lot

815
00:37:56,920 --> 00:37:59,360
Speaker 4: of people are like, oh my gosh, you are crazy.

816
00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:02,000
Speaker 4: Workers are crazy, Like why would people want to pay

817
00:38:02,120 --> 00:38:04,400
Speaker 4: that much to First of all, not everyone.

818
00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:07,200
Speaker 3: Does this, like lives the way I do, but I

819
00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:11,359
Speaker 3: just it was worth it to live.

820
00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:13,719
Speaker 4: I can be at your place in ten minutes, and

821
00:38:14,080 --> 00:38:17,160
Speaker 4: that was I could be at Joe and Preston's place

822
00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:18,719
Speaker 4: in ten minutes, like TJ I could be at your

823
00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:19,800
Speaker 4: place in twenty minutes.

824
00:38:20,120 --> 00:38:22,800
Speaker 2: It's just perfect for you because you were close to

825
00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:24,720
Speaker 2: your friends and like a lot of stuff anyway.

826
00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:25,239
Speaker 3: So it works.

827
00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:27,640
Speaker 2: As much as people might think it's crazy, it absolutely

828
00:38:27,719 --> 00:38:29,400
Speaker 2: works for you and your personality. I want to make

829
00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:32,359
Speaker 2: sure we touch on you travel the same way too.

830
00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:34,279
Speaker 2: You have like I'll have like two bags, you have

831
00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:38,800
Speaker 2: one backpack. We've traveled the world together. We've run marathons together.

832
00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:42,279
Speaker 2: We've climbed mountains together. NICKI was with me when we

833
00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:47,080
Speaker 2: somebody did kill him and Jarrow. We have obviously we've

834
00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:47,800
Speaker 2: run how many.

835
00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:51,200
Speaker 3: Two marathon grown together? Okay for wow, I've wow, I've missed.

836
00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:51,959
Speaker 3: I missed a couple.

837
00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:55,480
Speaker 2: We've done four marathons together. We did the challenge of

838
00:38:55,520 --> 00:38:58,600
Speaker 2: doing Chicago and New York together. And so you have

839
00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:00,640
Speaker 2: been amazing and you weren't even a run or to

840
00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:03,359
Speaker 2: begin with, you became You actually said you would bike

841
00:39:03,480 --> 00:39:06,560
Speaker 2: next to me while I ran on a run. Forward

842
00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:08,719
Speaker 2: to later that year, she's running the New York City

843
00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:11,960
Speaker 2: Marathon with me. So that just speaks to how when

844
00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:13,759
Speaker 2: you put your mind to something and you say you can't,

845
00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:16,480
Speaker 2: it's amazing what you can do. And you've been a

846
00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:20,600
Speaker 2: huge example of that. I want to ask you what

847
00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:23,279
Speaker 2: your next challenge is, because you're always challenging yourself. You

848
00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:26,719
Speaker 2: said you wanted to do trail running, which I think

849
00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:30,080
Speaker 2: is just such a difficult thing to do because we

850
00:39:30,280 --> 00:39:32,759
Speaker 2: hike and we run, but putting them together is a

851
00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:35,120
Speaker 2: very difficult thing. But I'm curious because I don't even

852
00:39:35,160 --> 00:39:37,440
Speaker 2: know the answer to this. What is your next big challenge?

853
00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:39,759
Speaker 2: What do you want to accomplish this year?

854
00:39:40,239 --> 00:39:40,680
Speaker 1: This year?

855
00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:44,640
Speaker 4: Oh wow, I think you you nailed it. I would

856
00:39:44,719 --> 00:39:48,120
Speaker 4: love to sign up for a trail race. I was

857
00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:50,440
Speaker 4: supposed to do one a few months ago. I ended

858
00:39:50,520 --> 00:39:52,880
Speaker 4: up not doing it, but I would love to.

859
00:39:53,200 --> 00:39:55,640
Speaker 2: Obviously did one on Staten Island. I didn't even know

860
00:39:55,760 --> 00:39:59,040
Speaker 2: that was I forgot about that. That was the run

861
00:39:59,280 --> 00:40:01,560
Speaker 2: in Sutn Island. Like I mean, I learned in the

862
00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:03,319
Speaker 2: city from you every day.

863
00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:05,600
Speaker 4: So like New York City is like just this big

864
00:40:05,680 --> 00:40:08,240
Speaker 4: playground and when you can find people that you enjoy

865
00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:10,640
Speaker 4: just exploring the city with, it just makes it all

866
00:40:10,680 --> 00:40:12,719
Speaker 4: the more better. And y'all are that to me, like

867
00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:14,640
Speaker 4: all our cool runs that we go do you We're

868
00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:16,279
Speaker 4: gonna go pick up some bean from school here in

869
00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:16,640
Speaker 4: a little bit.

870
00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:19,239
Speaker 3: I'm so excited, And just little things like that.

871
00:40:19,320 --> 00:40:22,399
Speaker 4: But my big, my big next goal, I would say,

872
00:40:22,520 --> 00:40:27,000
Speaker 4: would be a Trail Race, and also I would love

873
00:40:27,120 --> 00:40:31,320
Speaker 4: to get back into doing another mountain. That's definitely. I

874
00:40:31,360 --> 00:40:33,560
Speaker 4: don't know about this year, but I think trail Race

875
00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:35,200
Speaker 4: would probably be top of the list.

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Speaker 3: For Yeah, we did cook theos Go together too, so

877
00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:39,319
Speaker 3: we've done two of the seven Summits together with.

878
00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:41,160
Speaker 1: Yeah.

879
00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:45,000
Speaker 2: We Yeah, the weather, the web, it was why we

880
00:40:45,239 --> 00:40:48,440
Speaker 2: climbed the comitted, the second and third highest peaks in

881
00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:48,880
Speaker 2: the Alps.

882
00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:50,680
Speaker 3: And that was actually the hardest thing I've ever done

883
00:40:50,680 --> 00:40:51,080
Speaker 3: in my life.

884
00:40:51,160 --> 00:40:54,560
Speaker 4: That was very difficult. We were that rying, actually harder

885
00:40:54,640 --> 00:40:58,759
Speaker 4: than I was bawling the entire time. Conditions were rough

886
00:40:58,760 --> 00:41:01,480
Speaker 4: because we got to do two and you got to

887
00:41:01,520 --> 00:41:04,759
Speaker 4: do I know, we felt like, yeah, it was pretty tough.

888
00:41:05,080 --> 00:41:07,800
Speaker 4: I want to Also, there's so many I said she

889
00:41:07,880 --> 00:41:08,839
Speaker 4: was a unicorn in Yoda.

890
00:41:09,680 --> 00:41:12,839
Speaker 2: You are officially now not single, But the entire time

891
00:41:12,920 --> 00:41:15,440
Speaker 2: I have known you, you have been single, and you

892
00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:20,880
Speaker 2: were officially single, like never had a boyfriend correct, correct

893
00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:23,200
Speaker 2: until you were thirty nine years old, till I was

894
00:41:23,239 --> 00:41:24,200
Speaker 2: there changed for you.

895
00:41:24,680 --> 00:41:25,320
Speaker 3: Oh my goodness.

896
00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:28,480
Speaker 4: Well honestly, so up until then, I've always been this

897
00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:31,440
Speaker 4: this unicorn as you call it or whatever, I have

898
00:41:31,560 --> 00:41:35,880
Speaker 4: always just like lived like my motto is played by year.

899
00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:37,920
Speaker 4: I love to just go with the flow. Just what

900
00:41:38,080 --> 00:41:42,080
Speaker 4: my friend group is everything to me. But it was

901
00:41:42,200 --> 00:41:45,720
Speaker 4: just right time, right place, this amazing guy that I'm dating,

902
00:41:45,760 --> 00:41:48,840
Speaker 4: who I know because of you, Aby, it was just

903
00:41:49,080 --> 00:41:51,279
Speaker 4: the right time and the right person. Honestly, just the

904
00:41:51,360 --> 00:41:53,800
Speaker 4: right person. He's the one of the most amazing people

905
00:41:54,040 --> 00:41:55,920
Speaker 4: have I just literally was just telling him this yesterday.

906
00:41:55,960 --> 00:41:58,560
Speaker 4: He's one of the best souls, one of the kindest,

907
00:41:58,640 --> 00:42:01,360
Speaker 4: most Jenner people you will ever meet. And we have

908
00:42:01,480 --> 00:42:04,120
Speaker 4: so much fun together. We're just exploring the city together

909
00:42:04,239 --> 00:42:06,400
Speaker 4: and he's very adventurous too. He loves to hike mountains.

910
00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:09,680
Speaker 4: He he and I spontaneously ran a race two weeks ago.

911
00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:11,920
Speaker 4: We signed up for it the day before. He did

912
00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:14,000
Speaker 4: the five k and I did a half marathon.

913
00:42:14,600 --> 00:42:17,839
Speaker 2: And you need to be spontaneous to be with you. Yeah,

914
00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:20,239
Speaker 2: I think that that's a big thing for me. I

915
00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:21,720
Speaker 2: love just like everyone.

916
00:42:22,200 --> 00:42:24,600
Speaker 4: Tatiana was actually like, talk about play it by your Nikki,

917
00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:25,759
Speaker 4: because I was telling her I was going to be

918
00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:27,640
Speaker 4: on this. But you know, from the beginning, I've always

919
00:42:27,719 --> 00:42:29,759
Speaker 4: been like, let's play it by her. You never know

920
00:42:30,040 --> 00:42:32,759
Speaker 4: when your last day on Earth is or anything, or

921
00:42:32,960 --> 00:42:34,839
Speaker 4: how even just this day will end. Let's just feel

922
00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:36,400
Speaker 4: it out, let's play it by your let's go with

923
00:42:36,480 --> 00:42:38,520
Speaker 4: the flow and just see you know where the wind

924
00:42:38,560 --> 00:42:40,560
Speaker 4: takes us. And I've always been that way ever since

925
00:42:40,640 --> 00:42:41,719
Speaker 4: I was young.

926
00:42:42,160 --> 00:42:46,560
Speaker 3: And yeah, I'm so happy for you. It's so happy

927
00:42:46,600 --> 00:42:47,040
Speaker 3: to see you.

928
00:42:47,239 --> 00:42:51,360
Speaker 2: In love and with someone who I have always admired,

929
00:42:51,400 --> 00:42:53,640
Speaker 2: who I've done a lot of traveling with. I climed

930
00:42:53,680 --> 00:42:56,080
Speaker 2: Mount Fuji with him. Actually, so sorry, the perfect I

931
00:42:56,239 --> 00:42:58,440
Speaker 2: love seeing the two of you together. It's amazing. And

932
00:42:58,520 --> 00:43:01,920
Speaker 2: something else I want to point out, you actually were

933
00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:04,719
Speaker 2: the only person probably who was witnessed to TJ and I.

934
00:43:05,960 --> 00:43:07,160
Speaker 3: I believe so was.

935
00:43:07,360 --> 00:43:08,560
Speaker 2: There's a lot of people who have a lot of

936
00:43:08,600 --> 00:43:11,080
Speaker 2: timelines in their mind or what they think happened or what,

937
00:43:11,239 --> 00:43:14,000
Speaker 2: but you know, you saw it all happen. Oh my gosh,

938
00:43:14,040 --> 00:43:16,239
Speaker 2: I saw it happen. I actually, I will say this.

939
00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:18,280
Speaker 2: I had one one of your loyal fans.

940
00:43:18,320 --> 00:43:20,040
Speaker 4: She literally was like, one day, you should be on

941
00:43:20,080 --> 00:43:22,160
Speaker 4: the podcast, and I'd be like, ha ha, Hai would

942
00:43:22,200 --> 00:43:24,239
Speaker 4: be terrible on her podcast because I'm a nervous person.

943
00:43:24,520 --> 00:43:26,560
Speaker 4: But she literally wrote this the other day. Shout out

944
00:43:26,560 --> 00:43:29,400
Speaker 4: to this random very kind stranger. But she was like

945
00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:33,000
Speaker 4: talk about like how how how you guessed that they

946
00:43:33,080 --> 00:43:36,080
Speaker 4: were together? And I this is how I guessed because

947
00:43:36,080 --> 00:43:40,200
Speaker 4: I never saw you happier. I never saw you happier.

948
00:43:40,120 --> 00:43:41,920
Speaker 2: Because TJ has mentioned a couple of times, and I

949
00:43:42,040 --> 00:43:44,719
Speaker 2: understand he was you know, he didn't know that you knew,

950
00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:46,719
Speaker 2: but you guessed, and you you came to me and

951
00:43:46,880 --> 00:43:47,879
Speaker 2: I couldn't lie.

952
00:43:48,120 --> 00:43:50,160
Speaker 4: There was you couldn't lie. There was just a new

953
00:43:50,200 --> 00:43:52,520
Speaker 4: sparkle in your eye and I just knew that. And

954
00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:56,480
Speaker 4: that was fall of twenty e was fall twenty two.

955
00:43:56,760 --> 00:44:01,240
Speaker 2: Yes, exactly, yep, fall of twenty right or the cameras

956
00:44:01,280 --> 00:44:03,399
Speaker 2: caught us and I hate oh, I didn't say caught

957
00:44:03,440 --> 00:44:06,520
Speaker 2: us right before the cameras documented something we wanted to

958
00:44:06,560 --> 00:44:07,040
Speaker 2: keep private.

959
00:44:07,080 --> 00:44:09,680
Speaker 4: Absolutely, So I knew from the very beginning. I remember

960
00:44:09,760 --> 00:44:13,080
Speaker 4: you calling me telling me about like, you know, all

961
00:44:13,120 --> 00:44:15,680
Speaker 4: the new changes with you know, everything that was going

962
00:44:15,719 --> 00:44:17,640
Speaker 4: on back in August, which you have you know, publicly

963
00:44:17,680 --> 00:44:22,080
Speaker 4: talked about too. But it was until September of twenty

964
00:44:22,120 --> 00:44:24,399
Speaker 4: twenty two then I was just like started to notice something.

965
00:44:24,560 --> 00:44:26,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, I just saw how much more light you were?

966
00:44:27,160 --> 00:44:28,000
Speaker 3: Is that okay to say?

967
00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:30,960
Speaker 4: Just like you were just happier and in the sense

968
00:44:31,000 --> 00:44:33,719
Speaker 4: of just you were like, what's going on? Yeah, I

969
00:44:33,800 --> 00:44:36,640
Speaker 4: was like, tell me, tell it, Like how do I

970
00:44:36,680 --> 00:44:37,000
Speaker 4: find this?

971
00:44:37,200 --> 00:44:37,879
Speaker 3: You know what I mean?

972
00:44:38,280 --> 00:44:41,200
Speaker 4: But then I just being with you guys, I've been

973
00:44:41,320 --> 00:44:42,680
Speaker 4: I was just telling Chris this the other day. You

974
00:44:42,680 --> 00:44:47,160
Speaker 4: guys are my family. You so being ava anna DJ

975
00:44:47,400 --> 00:44:49,720
Speaker 4: oh my good, it's TJ. You guys are my family.

976
00:44:49,880 --> 00:44:50,160
Speaker 3: That's it.

977
00:44:50,480 --> 00:44:52,600
Speaker 4: And I that is at the end of the day

978
00:44:52,960 --> 00:44:57,399
Speaker 4: to me, like I'm a minimalist, I don't have much,

979
00:44:57,800 --> 00:45:01,400
Speaker 4: but I am rich because I have of a chosen

980
00:45:01,440 --> 00:45:03,040
Speaker 4: family of want my actual family.

981
00:45:03,080 --> 00:45:05,400
Speaker 3: I'm very close to them too. To me, that is

982
00:45:05,480 --> 00:45:05,960
Speaker 3: what life is.

983
00:45:06,040 --> 00:45:10,040
Speaker 4: It's it's connection, it's community, it's real deep friendship that

984
00:45:10,120 --> 00:45:12,400
Speaker 4: we're talking about real life stuff with. It's not just

985
00:45:13,239 --> 00:45:15,759
Speaker 4: just having fun. Yes, we can have fun, but it's

986
00:45:16,280 --> 00:45:18,480
Speaker 4: deep talk. Even just before we started the podcast, we

987
00:45:18,560 --> 00:45:22,759
Speaker 4: were talking about like deep talk and you're immediately You're like,

988
00:45:22,840 --> 00:45:24,680
Speaker 4: you want to come pick the bean up. I'm like, yes,

989
00:45:24,840 --> 00:45:26,960
Speaker 4: I do. Like that's just such an honor, you know,

990
00:45:27,080 --> 00:45:30,920
Speaker 4: to be just trusted And like I recently read somewhere

991
00:45:30,920 --> 00:45:32,600
Speaker 4: in one of my self help books, I love self

992
00:45:32,600 --> 00:45:36,000
Speaker 4: help books. People just want to be seen, safe and supported,

993
00:45:36,560 --> 00:45:38,800
Speaker 4: and I feel like that with y'all. I know I

994
00:45:38,920 --> 00:45:42,040
Speaker 4: have my community out here, and that's what makes me

995
00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:44,399
Speaker 4: internally rich, is that I can live in a tiny,

996
00:45:44,440 --> 00:45:46,920
Speaker 4: little micro It makes me happy because I get to

997
00:45:46,960 --> 00:45:50,319
Speaker 4: see you guys every day, and that to me is joy, and.

998
00:45:50,400 --> 00:45:54,360
Speaker 3: That, to me is life. So I texted DJ scene,

999
00:45:54,960 --> 00:45:56,400
Speaker 3: what is it? Scene supported?

1000
00:45:56,600 --> 00:45:56,880
Speaker 2: Safe?

1001
00:45:57,000 --> 00:46:00,920
Speaker 3: Scenes supported? I said, I said it wrong. I just

1002
00:46:00,920 --> 00:46:02,319
Speaker 3: screwed it up. But I might have.

1003
00:46:04,719 --> 00:46:07,319
Speaker 2: Ours for I think you. Yeah, we were talking about

1004
00:46:07,320 --> 00:46:11,480
Speaker 2: that yesterday, nicky Uh, I think everyone. I'm glad everyone

1005
00:46:11,560 --> 00:46:13,520
Speaker 2: gets to meet you and know you because you are

1006
00:46:13,600 --> 00:46:18,520
Speaker 2: such a special soul. And thank you for getting over

1007
00:46:18,760 --> 00:46:21,000
Speaker 2: your nerves. I know that you weren't exactly you know,

1008
00:46:21,520 --> 00:46:24,200
Speaker 2: thrilled about performing and you're not performing. I said, you

1009
00:46:24,280 --> 00:46:25,720
Speaker 2: just have to talk about you, which is what Anily

1010
00:46:26,040 --> 00:46:27,879
Speaker 2: told you as well. And so we just we want

1011
00:46:27,880 --> 00:46:30,840
Speaker 2: to thank you for always being a part of our family.

1012
00:46:30,920 --> 00:46:33,400
Speaker 2: You are our family. I mean TJ has said that

1013
00:46:33,600 --> 00:46:34,320
Speaker 2: plenty of times.

1014
00:46:34,520 --> 00:46:37,400
Speaker 1: Well again, think about scenes. I'd spend more time with you,

1015
00:46:37,520 --> 00:46:38,960
Speaker 1: and you're more of a part of her family than

1016
00:46:39,000 --> 00:46:40,840
Speaker 1: many of her relatives are. So I mean, that's just

1017
00:46:40,880 --> 00:46:43,000
Speaker 1: the way things have gone. But yeah, it's she doesn't

1018
00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:46,719
Speaker 1: know life without you. So I'll say that publicly and

1019
00:46:46,840 --> 00:46:48,520
Speaker 1: how much I love you and adore you and thank you.

1020
00:46:48,840 --> 00:46:50,400
Speaker 1: I'll say that publicly, but I say it to you

1021
00:46:50,520 --> 00:46:51,480
Speaker 1: privately too.

1022
00:46:51,920 --> 00:46:53,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, you are the sister that I've never had, and

1023
00:46:53,880 --> 00:46:55,440
Speaker 2: you were an aunt to my daughters.

1024
00:46:55,560 --> 00:46:59,879
Speaker 3: Oh my goodness. I call them my big little sister niece.

1025
00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:02,279
Speaker 4: That's what I call them, because I learned from them too,

1026
00:47:02,440 --> 00:47:04,319
Speaker 4: and soon that will be so being in the sense

1027
00:47:04,320 --> 00:47:06,800
Speaker 4: of a big little sister me or whatever, just his

1028
00:47:06,960 --> 00:47:09,560
Speaker 4: little sister that sounds like a new taller than me

1029
00:47:09,840 --> 00:47:13,400
Speaker 4: and a wiser than me more wise, definitely. But I

1030
00:47:13,520 --> 00:47:15,959
Speaker 4: learn a lot from them. And but thank you, guys.

1031
00:47:16,840 --> 00:47:17,520
Speaker 3: Let's go to lunch.

1032
00:47:17,680 --> 00:47:21,160
Speaker 2: Okay, we love you. We gotta get to being.

1033
00:47:21,200 --> 00:47:21,920
Speaker 3: We gotta go to lunch.

1034
00:47:21,960 --> 00:47:24,520
Speaker 2: But thank you, thank you, thank you. I love you.

1035
00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:26,319
Speaker 3: Having on, I love you, guys.