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Speaker 3: I am all in with Scott Patterson and iHeartRadio Podcast.

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Speaker 1: Hey everybody, Scott Patterson, I am all in podcast. Want

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Speaker 1: to let productions. iHeartRadio, I heart Media, iHeart podcast. We

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Speaker 1: are going to review the episodes. Then we're gonna start

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Speaker 1: out with Winter. I'm joined by my partial intrepid crew.

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Speaker 1: But boy, just the two of them together, they're super intrepid.

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Speaker 1: Susan French, Amy Sugarman, Danielle Romo and tarasuit A on assignment.

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Speaker 1: So gang, here we go. Okay, we're at the episodes

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Speaker 1: and I have so many thoughts. I made so many notes.

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Speaker 1: I have pages and pages and page. I can't wait

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Speaker 4: iHeart podcasts.

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Speaker 3: Listen on the iHeartRadio app number one. How did you

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Speaker 3: feel about it?

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Speaker 1: I felt a lot of ways, positive and negative.

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Speaker 3: Okay, Okay.

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Speaker 1: I felt that it was a film, So I analyzed

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Speaker 1: it as a film. A ninety minute film has a

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Speaker 1: different structure than an hour or a forty minute television series.

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Speaker 1: It's a whole different writing structure and act structure. Okay,

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Speaker 1: So what I did was, did.

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Speaker 2: I like a film?

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Speaker 3: Shot like a film?

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Speaker 1: It shot like a film. It looks like a film

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Speaker 1: Stars Hollow never looked better. Stars. It really looked great

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Speaker 2: Wow.

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Speaker 1: What an opening? Wow, Wow wow, even.

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Speaker 3: Keep from the start it looks gorgeous, like leveled up

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Speaker 3: from the most beautiful the TV show ever looked. That

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Speaker 1: And then my second question, Well, your second question might be,

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Speaker 1: how are they going to do a TV show as

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Speaker 1: No matter what the fan base feels about the show,

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Speaker 1: a certain path, like the act break between one and

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Speaker 1: propels and surprises the audience and the energy going into

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Speaker 1: Act two. Now, you got to get through a really

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Speaker 3: Interesting, I didn't think about any of this, not one

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Speaker 1: Saying, Well, I I was. I was searching for all

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Speaker 1: actually executed on these very basic screenwriting film screenwriting structural

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Speaker 1: and I thought it was some of the best pop

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Speaker 1: jokes we've ever heard. It's some of the best performances

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Speaker 3: you brought up pop culture. Pop culture was so good again,

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Speaker 3: that was brilliant. That's my green flag. I have two

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Speaker 3: but I want to keep going everything you're talking about.

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Speaker 3: Do you remember if you shot it in chronological order?

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Speaker 3: Because there was some show that was shot in chronological order,

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Speaker 3: Got the script, you got all four all at once.

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Speaker 1: And since I don't know the other three, I haven't

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Speaker 1: time you've seen Winter, Yes, it was a second time,

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Speaker 3: I had not watched these since twenty sixteen either, And

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Speaker 1: You know, this film could have competed in a romantic

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Speaker 3: Where the show begins, you hear the roats and there

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Speaker 3: So I should have because the hair.

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Speaker 1: No Amy was very insistent that because I don't think

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Speaker 3: I am telling you. We'll look at some photos. Lauren's

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Speaker 1: the cans, you see the camera moving. It's just a

440
00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:33,480
Speaker 1: whole different a great feel and look of that.

441
00:24:34,280 --> 00:24:36,240
Speaker 3: I like kind of having her move around town. But

442
00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:39,040
Speaker 3: there was just a few moments of hashtag trying too hard.

443
00:24:39,119 --> 00:24:40,600
Speaker 1: I liked it. It was a movie. I liked it.

444
00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:42,639
Speaker 1: It was a movie because this was a movie. This

445
00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:45,040
Speaker 1: wasn't a television episode. It was a film.

446
00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:47,840
Speaker 3: I've always called the movies. I think it's four movies.

447
00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:52,080
Speaker 4: So in the market, then we get to see Lane.

448
00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:55,640
Speaker 4: It was good to see her again. We find out

449
00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:58,399
Speaker 4: that Zach has gotten a promotion and no one is

450
00:24:58,440 --> 00:24:59,440
Speaker 4: happy about that.

451
00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:01,359
Speaker 1: I'm so sorry.

452
00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:07,760
Speaker 4: Sorry. And then back in the town square we see

453
00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:11,560
Speaker 4: Kirk all right, it's just great to see all the

454
00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:13,919
Speaker 4: town uber Ye.

455
00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:19,800
Speaker 3: Super funny and totally plays as well today like it's

456
00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:20,679
Speaker 3: still funny today.

457
00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:26,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, And he's got a pig now because Babet overheard

458
00:25:26,040 --> 00:25:28,760
Speaker 4: him and Lulu talking about having kids, so the town

459
00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:30,200
Speaker 4: bought them a pig instead.

460
00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:34,320
Speaker 3: We're about eight years later now, right, So eight years

461
00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:38,399
Speaker 3: between season seven in the movies. Eight years between the

462
00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:39,399
Speaker 3: movies and now.

463
00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:42,399
Speaker 1: So and now I realize this. The town has gotten

464
00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:49,280
Speaker 1: together and conspired in order to that Kirk and Lulu

465
00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:53,280
Speaker 1: do not have children. Do you find that a little on?

466
00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:55,679
Speaker 1: Like they got them a pig so that they wouldn't

467
00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:59,439
Speaker 1: have kids? Why don't they want those two to have kids?

468
00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:02,840
Speaker 3: Back a town would want them to have kids? That

469
00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:05,480
Speaker 3: didn't really track. I mean, it's fine, No, I thought

470
00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:05,720
Speaker 3: it was.

471
00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:08,719
Speaker 4: I thought it was in character for the town because

472
00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:11,480
Speaker 4: you can't have more than one Kirk running around like

473
00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:15,200
Speaker 4: that would be alarming storyline that they would have had

474
00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:15,520
Speaker 4: a kid.

475
00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:19,400
Speaker 1: I just thought it went against the DNA of the show.

476
00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:21,720
Speaker 3: I agree with you. I agree. I don't think town

477
00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:24,760
Speaker 3: wanted them to have a kid. Yeah, they don't care.

478
00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:25,639
Speaker 3: I didn't.

479
00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:26,719
Speaker 4: I didn't mind the pig.

480
00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:27,320
Speaker 1: I thought it was.

481
00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:28,440
Speaker 4: Okay, it was great.

482
00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:32,840
Speaker 1: But it's just the attitude that they don't want their

483
00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:36,399
Speaker 1: consciously blocking those two from.

484
00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:38,080
Speaker 3: Heavy and why would La not get to have a kid.

485
00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:42,680
Speaker 1: That's not denying somebody children. It's just weird.

486
00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:45,840
Speaker 3: That was like weird, but yet whatever, it's kind of funny.

487
00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:51,359
Speaker 4: And then my favorite part of this scene was getting

488
00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:54,080
Speaker 4: the Troubadour singing Winter Glow, because that was one of

489
00:26:54,119 --> 00:26:57,760
Speaker 4: my favorite songs from the original series, the whole Winter

490
00:26:57,920 --> 00:26:59,000
Speaker 4: Festival vibe.

491
00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:02,040
Speaker 3: I really little tidbit that I heard is that it's

492
00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:04,400
Speaker 3: also sort of a tribute to Carol King the way

493
00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:09,840
Speaker 3: they are winter, spring, summer, and fall. Yes, winter springs.

494
00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:12,480
Speaker 1: All you have to do is call and I'll be there.

495
00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:14,280
Speaker 3: So that was cool.

496
00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:17,160
Speaker 4: And then we also got in this scene the famous

497
00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:21,560
Speaker 4: I smell snow start snow really shot.

498
00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:25,240
Speaker 1: So it was beautiful. It was just wow. The whole

499
00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:26,120
Speaker 1: thing was wow.

500
00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:29,480
Speaker 4: And then we go to the Lord.

501
00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:31,440
Speaker 1: I kept thinking of myself, jeez, I was in that show.

502
00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:34,159
Speaker 1: It's pretty fancy stuff.

503
00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:37,840
Speaker 4: Then we go to Lorlai in Luke's house, which is

504
00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:41,080
Speaker 4: all decorated, it's all it up for Christmas.

505
00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:44,640
Speaker 3: Did a color or was that me? Did the house

506
00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:45,960
Speaker 3: change color or was that?

507
00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:47,120
Speaker 1: I'm sure. I'm sure.

508
00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:50,399
Speaker 4: It had double door?

509
00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:52,520
Speaker 3: Was it ever yellow and now it's blue? Was it

510
00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:53,200
Speaker 3: ever yellow?

511
00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:55,680
Speaker 1: I'm sure it was.

512
00:27:56,320 --> 00:27:58,560
Speaker 3: And some reason I was like, oh, the house is

513
00:27:58,640 --> 00:27:59,200
Speaker 3: a different color.

514
00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:01,720
Speaker 4: I don't think. I don't think it was young, but yeah,

515
00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:03,600
Speaker 4: but it has double doors. Now there were two, I

516
00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:07,840
Speaker 4: know there were two wreaths front doors are different. Yeah,

517
00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:08,440
Speaker 4: that's right.

518
00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:09,320
Speaker 3: Good note.

519
00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:12,440
Speaker 4: And so they walk in the house and and Rory

520
00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:16,159
Speaker 4: calls out the dancing Rabbi that was from the original series.

521
00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:18,200
Speaker 3: Me that again, what happens there?

522
00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:20,240
Speaker 4: The dancing Rabbi, the singing Rabbi.

523
00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:23,720
Speaker 3: He was in the original series, She said, do you remember?

524
00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:30,480
Speaker 4: I don't remember. I think okay, yeah, okay. And so

525
00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:34,160
Speaker 4: Luke is in the kitchen. He's super proud, all excited

526
00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:36,720
Speaker 4: about that's when that scene you were talking about where

527
00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:39,080
Speaker 4: he's you know, having his rant about the food they're eating.

528
00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:40,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, this scene I did not like.

529
00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:45,760
Speaker 1: It was a little like, again, it'sonistic towards Luke. Why

530
00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:49,880
Speaker 1: is he being mocked for being so proud of Rory's accomplishments.

531
00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:52,760
Speaker 1: It's all I don't know. I think maybe mocked is

532
00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:57,600
Speaker 1: too strong a word, but but it's like more on

533
00:28:57,760 --> 00:29:00,840
Speaker 1: warning you. He's super proud, super proud, and it's like,

534
00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:05,080
Speaker 1: why wouldn't he be Why can't can he revel in

535
00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:10,760
Speaker 1: celebrating this gifted young girl that he had a little

536
00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:12,880
Speaker 1: bit to do with, uh bringing up you know what

537
00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:16,560
Speaker 1: I mean, or while not raising but being able, But

538
00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:18,120
Speaker 1: yes he did, and he it.

539
00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:20,280
Speaker 3: Was very lucash to be so proud of it that

540
00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:23,680
Speaker 3: I'm like, you were teasing you. It wasn't that didn't

541
00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:24,920
Speaker 3: totally bother me, But it.

542
00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:29,240
Speaker 4: Was like, yeah, it didn't really bother I mean, that's

543
00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:31,360
Speaker 4: how I would have expected Luke to be. I didn't

544
00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:36,600
Speaker 4: think they were necessarily mocking him. It was, but yeah,

545
00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:37,480
Speaker 4: maybe teasing is.

546
00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:39,760
Speaker 3: A better A little bit too much. Yeah, it had

547
00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:40,240
Speaker 3: enough of it.

548
00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:43,120
Speaker 4: There was some overkill, but I thought it was kind

549
00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:44,520
Speaker 4: of cute, like he was really proud of her. And

550
00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:47,320
Speaker 4: it kind of also makes you realize as the viewer

551
00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:49,240
Speaker 4: that now all these years have gone by and this

552
00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:53,680
Speaker 4: is the first really big thing that Rory's done. Like

553
00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:56,360
Speaker 4: that's what it said to me more than anything else,

554
00:29:56,760 --> 00:30:00,000
Speaker 4: was Okay, maybe she didn't hit with this amazing success

555
00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:04,480
Speaker 4: us on the Obama campaign eight years earlier, because if

556
00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:07,280
Speaker 4: she'd been having all these amazing successes all the way along,

557
00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:09,640
Speaker 4: Luke wouldn't be so excited about this one. Like that

558
00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:11,800
Speaker 4: kind of told me, Okay, maybe she's not.

559
00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:13,920
Speaker 3: This is a little bit of a flag. It's almost

560
00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:17,520
Speaker 3: like eight years have passed, but they're pretending very little

561
00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:20,800
Speaker 3: time has passed. Not really, do you know what I'm saying, like,

562
00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:22,760
Speaker 3: timeline wise.

563
00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:23,880
Speaker 1: That's the question.

564
00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:26,280
Speaker 2: Eight years have passed, but it wasn't.

565
00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:29,120
Speaker 1: It wasn't eight years, right, it was because it was

566
00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:31,160
Speaker 1: or whatever years.

567
00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:34,520
Speaker 3: And I think that that's the thing they're grappling with, right,

568
00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:40,440
Speaker 3: because it's like in the in the timeline, it's been

569
00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:44,360
Speaker 3: eight years, but in the storyline, it feels like it's

570
00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:45,480
Speaker 3: been less time.

571
00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:48,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, when they were in the town square, there was

572
00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:51,160
Speaker 4: a sign in the background that said welcome to twenty sixteen.

573
00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:54,760
Speaker 4: So I think we're meant to think this is like

574
00:30:54,840 --> 00:31:00,160
Speaker 4: right after New Year's in twenty sixteen. I've also, I'm

575
00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:02,760
Speaker 4: so read and I don't know if this is true

576
00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:06,600
Speaker 4: or not, but I've read that the Palladinos did not

577
00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:12,040
Speaker 4: watch season seven, so they're really continuing the story from

578
00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:14,480
Speaker 4: where they left it at the end of season six,

579
00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:18,280
Speaker 4: So that could be part of it too.

580
00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:21,920
Speaker 3: They didn't want to go eight years later, even though

581
00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:24,360
Speaker 3: they knew they had to, because that's why the Kirk

582
00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:26,920
Speaker 3: and Lulu thing is so jarring. Had it been one

583
00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:30,600
Speaker 3: or two years, it's kind of amusic eight years later, like,

584
00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:33,240
Speaker 3: let these people have a baby. They've been married forever,

585
00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:35,960
Speaker 3: do you know what I mean? Or together forever. And

586
00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:39,480
Speaker 3: same thing with Rory, like her not having an apartment.

587
00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:42,280
Speaker 3: They're all like crazy about it. It's like she's thirty

588
00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:45,760
Speaker 3: two years old, Like she should probably have an apartment somewhere.

589
00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:48,800
Speaker 3: Like there were some things that seemed a little flaggy,

590
00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:52,080
Speaker 3: like storing your stuff at your mom's when you're thirty

591
00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:56,360
Speaker 3: two is kind of weird, but when you're twenty four,

592
00:31:56,840 --> 00:31:59,360
Speaker 3: like it's almost like in their storyline, they only wanted

593
00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:01,760
Speaker 3: a few years, a couple of years to have passed.

594
00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:07,320
Speaker 4: Right, And two other points to contribute to that. One

595
00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:09,240
Speaker 4: is that Luke and Laurel I have not had a

596
00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:11,760
Speaker 4: kid yet, which I have not even had a conversation

597
00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:15,840
Speaker 4: about having a kid, which is weird and you wouldn't

598
00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:19,120
Speaker 4: even have a conversation. And then the very not to

599
00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:22,880
Speaker 4: jump ahead, but the very end of the fourth season

600
00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:28,040
Speaker 4: or the fourth you know episode also is not what

601
00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:29,840
Speaker 4: you would expect from a thirty two year old.

602
00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:33,400
Speaker 1: But do the math. Let's do the math. Though at

603
00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:37,240
Speaker 1: the beginning of the two thousand first season, Laurela is

604
00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:41,000
Speaker 1: supposed to be thirty two, right, correct, seven seasons now,

605
00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:43,760
Speaker 1: that's thirty nine, and then we go another eight years

606
00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:45,520
Speaker 1: and that's forty seven.

607
00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:47,040
Speaker 3: That's why she can't carry the baby?

608
00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:48,040
Speaker 1: Right?

609
00:32:49,040 --> 00:32:52,640
Speaker 3: And Rory is the age of Loralai when the series began.

610
00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:56,200
Speaker 1: Yes, so yeah, I agree. I think it's I agree

611
00:32:56,240 --> 00:33:00,400
Speaker 1: to saying it's odd from a storytelling logic, stamp with

612
00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:03,000
Speaker 1: what we're used to, because I have written down here

613
00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:05,920
Speaker 1: Luke gos from I am all in to the pragmatist?

614
00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:08,000
Speaker 1: Where's the romantic guy? Where's the guy?

615
00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:08,720
Speaker 3: Right? Oh?

616
00:33:08,800 --> 00:33:12,360
Speaker 1: He do anything for her? You know? Did she just

617
00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:14,800
Speaker 1: suddenly want kids now that she's forty seven and wants

618
00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:15,080
Speaker 1: to do it?

619
00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:15,640
Speaker 2: Wife?

620
00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:18,000
Speaker 1: Why would they talk about it for eight Why wouldn't

621
00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:18,720
Speaker 1: they not talk about her?

622
00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:23,320
Speaker 3: And actually in storyline, it's a great storyline. That's why

623
00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:27,560
Speaker 3: I'm saying this comes up repeatedly in this that they're writing.

624
00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:30,120
Speaker 3: How they would have wanted to write it one, two,

625
00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:32,440
Speaker 3: maybe three years later, It just happens to be eight

626
00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:36,640
Speaker 3: years later because, like Suzanne saying, which we will get

627
00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:40,640
Speaker 3: to the end end of the whole thing, the line

628
00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:43,920
Speaker 3: is like, really good if it had been a year

629
00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:48,680
Speaker 3: or two years, the line is really like, Oh, that's

630
00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:51,400
Speaker 3: why people are so fixated on who's the daddy as

631
00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:55,520
Speaker 3: opposed to like which I guess plays well, but like

632
00:33:55,960 --> 00:34:00,120
Speaker 3: then the line because it's like it's almost like cool.

633
00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:02,520
Speaker 1: Like well, it's almost like they don't want anybody to

634
00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:05,520
Speaker 1: even question or ever want to have to deal with

635
00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:07,720
Speaker 1: this question of Luke and Laurel I not having kids.

636
00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:10,880
Speaker 1: It's like they just sort of gloss it over and

637
00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:12,919
Speaker 1: here we are eight years later and now they're having

638
00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:16,840
Speaker 1: this inane conversation about Surgus, which dumb Luke doesn't understand.

639
00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:19,359
Speaker 2: So it's it's odd and it's very odd.

640
00:34:19,640 --> 00:34:22,279
Speaker 3: These are some of the flags, Like there's flags. There's

641
00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:25,480
Speaker 3: definitely flags. There's a lot of things that are really good. Yeah,

642
00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:27,080
Speaker 3: there's some weird flags.

643
00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:29,920
Speaker 1: It's like, oh god, m hm.

644
00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:42,880
Speaker 4: So also in this scene is where Paul makes his debut.

645
00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:45,560
Speaker 4: I thought it was kind of funny with the wrench,

646
00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:47,240
Speaker 4: and Luke was impressed with the wrench.

647
00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:49,560
Speaker 1: That was a really nice wrench.

648
00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:52,920
Speaker 3: I'm all forgetting everything about this guy. And it's like

649
00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:56,640
Speaker 3: it's been two years, Like it's just dumb for me.

650
00:34:56,800 --> 00:35:00,360
Speaker 4: That was like, this is not Rory, right, going to

651
00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:03,400
Speaker 4: say that, like you're watching this going, this isn't the Rory.

652
00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:08,400
Speaker 4: That was like so attentive to detail and had everything

653
00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:12,400
Speaker 4: also so I forget about a relationship.

654
00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:14,879
Speaker 3: And Rory is successful, Like she would have been even

655
00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:17,520
Speaker 3: more successful. She wouldn't be so struggling. She would have

656
00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:19,359
Speaker 3: bought a house, she would live. I don't know where

657
00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:21,359
Speaker 3: she would live, right New York City. Maybe she's got

658
00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:26,800
Speaker 3: She just wouldn't have been so meandery. That That's always

659
00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:28,400
Speaker 3: been my flag is, like, they make Rory and it

660
00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:28,920
Speaker 3: gets worse.

661
00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:36,240
Speaker 1: Maybe just flash the lu been thriving.

662
00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:37,839
Speaker 3: Now there is a scene in this that I think

663
00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:40,120
Speaker 3: tracks with what Rory would do. But continue.

664
00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:41,120
Speaker 1: Yeah.

665
00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:45,560
Speaker 4: So then it's later that night, Luke and Lorlai are

666
00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:48,759
Speaker 4: getting ready for bed. I have to call out the

667
00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:53,160
Speaker 4: Felix and oscar line virus. That was a callback to

668
00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:55,800
Speaker 4: season one, which I loved.

669
00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:59,840
Speaker 3: Also, her pajamas and thank got her hair was acceptable

670
00:35:59,880 --> 00:36:02,600
Speaker 3: to me. Her hair was so That's why I was like, Oh,

671
00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:07,319
Speaker 3: there's Lauren and Graham, there's Lorlai. The other hair was just.

672
00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:09,279
Speaker 4: Rushing me.

673
00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:10,960
Speaker 3: I couldn't stand it.

674
00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:13,440
Speaker 4: I thought that was a cute scene with all the

675
00:36:13,719 --> 00:36:16,960
Speaker 4: all the junk TV shows on the DVR. Totally, it

676
00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:19,680
Speaker 4: just was it was all those that's the stuff she

677
00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:20,200
Speaker 4: would have watched.

678
00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:21,560
Speaker 3: I know, we'll talk about it in pop culture. But

679
00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:22,760
Speaker 3: are all those real movies?

680
00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:24,120
Speaker 4: Oh, I don't know.

681
00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:27,040
Speaker 3: We'll find out, because I'm sure they are.

682
00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:30,200
Speaker 1: I don't, I don't. I think some of them are.

683
00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:33,320
Speaker 1: Some of them, I don't know. But then they, you know,

684
00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:36,759
Speaker 1: they you know, they portray Luke and Laura as having

685
00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:41,080
Speaker 1: this sort of randy mutual powerful attraction to one another

686
00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:43,400
Speaker 1: because she jumps in bed and he, you know, he

687
00:36:43,520 --> 00:36:46,719
Speaker 1: kind of goes he goes for right. Yeah, and they

688
00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:50,680
Speaker 1: keep alluding to, you know, we're gonna keep Rory awake

689
00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:53,360
Speaker 1: and this kind of thing. And that's just for me.

690
00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:57,680
Speaker 1: It just translates into you know, babies long ago.

691
00:36:57,920 --> 00:37:00,920
Speaker 3: This hair. I'm sorry, I'm sorry, go off the babies.

692
00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:03,520
Speaker 3: But the hair is not see that doesn't I think

693
00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:08,279
Speaker 3: it's cute, pretty hair. It's just not her. It's too

694
00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:12,719
Speaker 3: it's too a lady who lunches hair, a country club lady.

695
00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:15,879
Speaker 3: That's not Laura's hair. Anyway, Scott, Sorry, you're talking about

696
00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:20,000
Speaker 3: something very serious and I'm still on the hair. But yeah,

697
00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:21,560
Speaker 3: I agree with you. These two would have had talked

698
00:37:21,560 --> 00:37:25,480
Speaker 3: about babies eight years earlier and they got back together.

699
00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:26,920
Speaker 3: But anyway, and.

700
00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:30,600
Speaker 4: Then stress tap dancing.

701
00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:35,960
Speaker 3: Okay, dumb, a little bit funny, a little funny, a

702
00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:40,520
Speaker 3: little hashtag trying too hard, Yeah, a little bit funny.

703
00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:43,480
Speaker 4: Maybe I'll try tap dancing.

704
00:37:44,120 --> 00:37:46,360
Speaker 3: I wanted to try it for myself, but Rory's not

705
00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:46,920
Speaker 3: going to do that.

706
00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:52,000
Speaker 4: And it was like, yeah, I did a funny line

707
00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:55,960
Speaker 4: when Laura I was talking about she's been feeling her

708
00:37:56,040 --> 00:37:59,200
Speaker 4: mortality lately, and she looked at a cruise brochure and

709
00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:03,680
Speaker 4: then I broke hip. That made me laugh after she

710
00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:04,160
Speaker 4: looked at.

711
00:38:04,120 --> 00:38:04,879
Speaker 1: The for sure.

712
00:38:05,120 --> 00:38:08,400
Speaker 3: So then Scott did this, but she's thirty three, thirty four,

713
00:38:08,480 --> 00:38:10,440
Speaker 3: thirty five or six seven, thirty nine.

714
00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:12,959
Speaker 1: She's forty nine for she's forty seven now.

715
00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:15,640
Speaker 3: Forty seven, okay, thank you. Yeah. I had to count

716
00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:18,640
Speaker 3: that on my fingers every really, And so this was

717
00:38:18,680 --> 00:38:22,640
Speaker 3: the first scene where they she's like my age now.

718
00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:25,880
Speaker 1: Based only from two thousand at thirty two to sixteen

719
00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:27,520
Speaker 1: years later, she's forty eight years old.

720
00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:32,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, she's just a tiny bit younger than me now,

721
00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:36,440
Speaker 3: which is maybe why I liked it more. I don't know,

722
00:38:36,719 --> 00:38:39,040
Speaker 3: like now I'm the age. I don't know anyone keep going.

723
00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:41,640
Speaker 4: I was just going to say, this is the scene

724
00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:44,560
Speaker 4: where they first mentioned that Richard has passed and they

725
00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:45,960
Speaker 4: talk about missing Grandpa.

726
00:38:46,120 --> 00:38:49,440
Speaker 1: So that was where that was established, and.

727
00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:52,359
Speaker 3: It was all well done the whole time. It was good. Yeah.

728
00:38:52,719 --> 00:38:56,640
Speaker 4: And then the Luke's Diner Seene Taylor in the septic tank.

729
00:38:57,080 --> 00:38:59,239
Speaker 4: There was another thing back in season one about the

730
00:38:59,280 --> 00:38:59,920
Speaker 4: septect tank.

731
00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:02,880
Speaker 3: That's that all played well for me, you guys. That

732
00:39:03,040 --> 00:39:05,399
Speaker 3: all was funny and real and the whole thing.

733
00:39:05,719 --> 00:39:09,680
Speaker 4: And he, Michael Winters just does not age. It's like

734
00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:12,680
Speaker 4: he is Taylor, Like he didn't seem different at all,

735
00:39:12,840 --> 00:39:14,719
Speaker 4: Like he just fell right back into that role.

736
00:39:15,520 --> 00:39:17,399
Speaker 3: I wrote that down to I was like, he looks

737
00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:21,600
Speaker 3: exactly the same. Yeah, he's acting the same, he looks

738
00:39:21,680 --> 00:39:22,520
Speaker 3: the same. It was.

739
00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:23,319
Speaker 4: He was great.

740
00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:26,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I thought they struck a very nice tone

741
00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:30,200
Speaker 1: with having Taylor do the rant and then storm out

742
00:39:30,239 --> 00:39:31,840
Speaker 1: and then Luke follow him out and say, come on,

743
00:39:32,080 --> 00:39:32,800
Speaker 1: give me the petition.

744
00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:34,040
Speaker 2: Yeah I'll sign it.

745
00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:38,359
Speaker 1: Yeah. I look, it was a nice community, small town moment.

746
00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:40,320
Speaker 3: I totally agree, Scott, I totally agree.

747
00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:41,000
Speaker 1: You know.

748
00:39:42,560 --> 00:39:44,600
Speaker 3: What I thought of is that thing that's been going

749
00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:47,840
Speaker 3: around that you age a lot at forty and sixty.

750
00:39:48,239 --> 00:39:51,120
Speaker 3: So my thought was maybe he was like had already

751
00:39:51,160 --> 00:39:54,120
Speaker 3: done his age jumps because he looks exactly the same.

752
00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:55,879
Speaker 3: So anyway, I don't know, how.

753
00:39:55,880 --> 00:39:59,160
Speaker 1: Do we feel about Kirk getting pelted with beggels in

754
00:39:59,320 --> 00:39:59,880
Speaker 1: the face?

755
00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:02,680
Speaker 4: Hilarious?

756
00:40:03,719 --> 00:40:04,560
Speaker 3: How did I miss that?

757
00:40:06,600 --> 00:40:10,200
Speaker 1: I whacked him, just drilled him in the face with

758
00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:13,960
Speaker 1: two halves of bagels, just whack and then whack, whack.

759
00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:15,840
Speaker 4: I thought it was hilarious.

760
00:40:16,120 --> 00:40:17,680
Speaker 1: No, definitely funny.

761
00:40:18,200 --> 00:40:20,320
Speaker 3: Right, you didn't you miss.

762
00:40:20,200 --> 00:40:21,439
Speaker 4: That, Amy, You didn't see that part.

763
00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:24,000
Speaker 3: I never saw him get hit with bagels at all.

764
00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:27,000
Speaker 4: And that's that's why he said, Luke, what do you say, Luke,

765
00:40:27,040 --> 00:40:29,520
Speaker 4: you need to control your woman or something like that. Okay,

766
00:40:31,160 --> 00:40:33,000
Speaker 4: because she was throwing bagels at him.

767
00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:39,759
Speaker 1: Because he was, he was saying, oober right, yeah, noise. Yeah.

768
00:40:41,680 --> 00:40:44,800
Speaker 1: But I find it interesting how certain characters are treated

769
00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:47,200
Speaker 1: in this piece, you know, yeah.

770
00:40:47,239 --> 00:40:50,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, they're they're a little bit mocked. I will say, though,

771
00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:52,719
Speaker 3: there's a very cute moment. I know, we'll get to

772
00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:55,759
Speaker 3: it when she's in the oouber and she's making fun

773
00:40:55,800 --> 00:40:58,920
Speaker 3: of him and then she smiles like she loves she

774
00:40:59,080 --> 00:40:59,440
Speaker 3: loves it.

775
00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:02,600
Speaker 1: Well that's when he started singing right the Carpenter song.

776
00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:06,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, anyway, we'll get to that, keep going, okay.

777
00:41:06,239 --> 00:41:08,880
Speaker 4: And then this is where Paul shows up again. We

778
00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:11,040
Speaker 4: forgot about him, and then she forgets about him again

779
00:41:11,160 --> 00:41:13,200
Speaker 4: in this scene because she leaves with the food and

780
00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:15,200
Speaker 4: has to come back. That was pretty funny.

781
00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:17,480
Speaker 3: Oh Chewbacca, Why who lives Chewbacca?

782
00:41:18,040 --> 00:41:18,759
Speaker 4: That's coming up?

783
00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:20,959
Speaker 2: Oh god, it's so bad.

784
00:41:21,080 --> 00:41:23,160
Speaker 3: These are the parts that bothered me. I'm sorry, we

785
00:41:23,360 --> 00:41:24,399
Speaker 3: haven't gotten it yet.

786
00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:27,680
Speaker 1: Okay, sorry, okay, okay, let's just make an agreement now.

787
00:41:27,719 --> 00:41:33,960
Speaker 1: There will be no referencing future episodes. Thank you. That's enough, Okay,

788
00:41:34,760 --> 00:41:35,759
Speaker 1: I don't want to hear it.

789
00:41:37,080 --> 00:41:38,480
Speaker 2: Thank you, Danielle, you got it.

790
00:41:39,920 --> 00:41:44,080
Speaker 4: Okay. And then so now the dragonfly scene.

791
00:41:44,239 --> 00:41:47,959
Speaker 1: So that's the first act. This is the act break.

792
00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:50,000
Speaker 3: Hey, okay, thank you, Because I didn't I wouldn't have

793
00:41:50,080 --> 00:41:51,399
Speaker 3: known that, so I appreciate. Yeah.

794
00:41:51,640 --> 00:41:54,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, So we'll write it about twenty seven minutes and

795
00:41:54,719 --> 00:41:57,000
Speaker 1: twenty nine minutes with all that, you know, we get

796
00:41:57,040 --> 00:42:01,040
Speaker 1: to Emily's house at about twenty nine minutes. Okay, so

797
00:42:01,200 --> 00:42:03,319
Speaker 1: that's your first act. Your first act is twenty five

798
00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:06,160
Speaker 1: thirty minutes and an hour and a ninety minute piece.

799
00:42:06,719 --> 00:42:07,239
Speaker 4: Yeah, okay.

800
00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:12,399
Speaker 1: So then I'm like, oh, Okay, here we are. Now

801
00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:15,160
Speaker 1: this is when the action is going to start. This

802
00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:22,239
Speaker 1: is and it does, so you know, and the death

803
00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:24,399
Speaker 1: of Richard is the thing that propelled it into act

804
00:42:24,480 --> 00:42:28,160
Speaker 1: too that we already knew about. But it's yet it's

805
00:42:28,200 --> 00:42:30,960
Speaker 1: still surprised us. When still surprised me when I saw

806
00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:34,080
Speaker 1: it in this how they use it so so far

807
00:42:34,120 --> 00:42:36,759
Speaker 1: it's structured very very well, very well.

808
00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:37,399
Speaker 4: Yeah, thisss.

809
00:42:37,480 --> 00:42:39,920
Speaker 3: Thing is really good. It does not feel like ninety

810
00:42:39,960 --> 00:42:41,560
Speaker 3: minutes it went so fast.

811
00:42:41,680 --> 00:42:44,520
Speaker 1: It did not. It felt very compact. I agree.

812
00:42:45,160 --> 00:42:49,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, So that's that's a good call out, Scott,

813
00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:53,800
Speaker 4: because like I was not obviously I'm the viewer. I

814
00:42:53,840 --> 00:42:56,360
Speaker 4: am not any kind of a production person, but I

815
00:42:56,600 --> 00:42:59,640
Speaker 4: was not watching it from that structural lens, so I

816
00:42:59,840 --> 00:43:03,479
Speaker 4: was just watching the plot unfolds. That's a good point

817
00:43:03,560 --> 00:43:05,440
Speaker 4: that you make about the different acts because I didn't

818
00:43:05,480 --> 00:43:08,319
Speaker 4: pick up on that, But now in retrospect, I'm like, oh, well, yeah,

819
00:43:08,440 --> 00:43:11,960
Speaker 4: there totally was a break right there. So we go

820
00:43:12,040 --> 00:43:14,000
Speaker 4: to the Dragonfly. This is now the first time we've

821
00:43:14,040 --> 00:43:16,480
Speaker 4: seen the dragonfly. There was a ton of information in

822
00:43:16,560 --> 00:43:20,360
Speaker 4: this scene. So first of all, before we get to that,

823
00:43:20,440 --> 00:43:22,920
Speaker 4: I want to point out did you guys notice that

824
00:43:23,520 --> 00:43:27,680
Speaker 4: Alex Borstein was credited as Drella but she never appeared

825
00:43:27,760 --> 00:43:28,480
Speaker 4: in the episode.

826
00:43:28,520 --> 00:43:31,120
Speaker 3: What's going on with that? Is that it cut or something.

827
00:43:31,360 --> 00:43:34,280
Speaker 4: That's what I was wondering, because at the very start

828
00:43:34,320 --> 00:43:37,080
Speaker 4: of the scene coming downstairs.

829
00:43:36,920 --> 00:43:43,680
Speaker 1: It comes later in this episode, not in this episode.

830
00:43:43,680 --> 00:43:49,080
Speaker 1: But isn't she She's in a different Episode's Notrella? No, no, no,

831
00:43:49,239 --> 00:43:55,800
Speaker 1: it's it's it's some famous costume designer from the Golden

832
00:43:55,800 --> 00:43:57,000
Speaker 1: Ear of Hollywood or something.

833
00:43:57,120 --> 00:44:00,480
Speaker 3: Right right, So a main series too.

834
00:44:01,000 --> 00:44:04,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, Alex Borstein is in it later as the other character,

835
00:44:04,760 --> 00:44:07,160
Speaker 4: not as Drella. So that's why I was confused why

836
00:44:07,239 --> 00:44:12,040
Speaker 4: she got credit in this episode as Drellalla wasn't in

837
00:44:12,160 --> 00:44:13,960
Speaker 4: this episode because.

838
00:44:13,719 --> 00:44:19,120
Speaker 1: They were they were crediting everybody that was originally cast

839
00:44:19,840 --> 00:44:24,359
Speaker 1: in Gilmore Girls, and and plus Amy and Alex are

840
00:44:24,800 --> 00:44:26,640
Speaker 1: like best friends.

841
00:44:27,360 --> 00:44:28,040
Speaker 3: Something to that.

842
00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:30,480
Speaker 4: I just yeah, I just wondered if there was like

843
00:44:30,520 --> 00:44:33,080
Speaker 4: a deleted scene or something, because when they come in,

844
00:44:35,640 --> 00:44:38,600
Speaker 4: when when Michelle and Laura came down the stairs of

845
00:44:38,640 --> 00:44:40,759
Speaker 4: the Dragonfly and they turned to go into the living room,

846
00:44:40,960 --> 00:44:44,319
Speaker 4: there is someone with dark hair sitting there playing a harp.

847
00:44:44,960 --> 00:44:46,799
Speaker 3: It must there must have been a scene that got cut.

848
00:44:47,040 --> 00:44:47,600
Speaker 1: That's what I was.

849
00:44:47,840 --> 00:44:50,279
Speaker 4: Thinking, Like, you don't see her face well enough to

850
00:44:50,320 --> 00:44:51,120
Speaker 4: know what they mentioned.

851
00:44:52,880 --> 00:44:55,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, so so they had to explain away why she

852
00:44:55,800 --> 00:44:57,520
Speaker 1: wasn't in the series, and this is how they did it.

853
00:44:57,600 --> 00:45:01,719
Speaker 1: She said, you know, attle bit of the farms at

854
00:45:01,840 --> 00:45:03,880
Speaker 1: some kind of a seminar.

855
00:45:03,600 --> 00:45:06,319
Speaker 3: Things which to her career kind of this is something

856
00:45:06,440 --> 00:45:09,440
Speaker 3: behind the scenes drama, because there was a little drama

857
00:45:10,400 --> 00:45:15,759
Speaker 3: that Amy said Melissa wasn't available. Melissa said she'd never

858
00:45:15,880 --> 00:45:20,640
Speaker 3: been asked all publicly, and then suddenly it worked out

859
00:45:20,760 --> 00:45:24,280
Speaker 3: and Melissa does appear. Yeah, eventually, Yes.

860
00:45:24,200 --> 00:45:28,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, there were various comments on Twitter that eventually got

861
00:45:28,680 --> 00:45:30,080
Speaker 4: deleted and somehow it all got.

862
00:45:30,040 --> 00:45:32,160
Speaker 3: There was some sort of behind the scenes hubbah, but

863
00:45:32,239 --> 00:45:32,960
Speaker 3: it all worked out.

864
00:45:33,280 --> 00:45:37,360
Speaker 4: Yeah. So we find out Michelle is married to Frederick,

865
00:45:37,520 --> 00:45:41,480
Speaker 4: and Frederick wants kids, but Michelle doesn't. Roy Choi was

866
00:45:42,120 --> 00:45:42,439
Speaker 4: was here.

867
00:45:43,320 --> 00:45:47,080
Speaker 3: Roy CHOI was like not having any of it. It

868
00:45:47,200 --> 00:45:49,200
Speaker 3: was a little hashtag trying too hard, but it was

869
00:45:49,239 --> 00:45:51,719
Speaker 3: also kind of amusing, just Roy Choy. Some of it

870
00:45:51,920 --> 00:45:52,279
Speaker 3: was good.

871
00:45:53,040 --> 00:45:56,919
Speaker 1: I didn't Michelle had a good line here to Laura,

872
00:45:57,040 --> 00:45:59,160
Speaker 1: l I, why aren't aren't you on Zenix? It was

873
00:45:59,239 --> 00:45:59,880
Speaker 1: invented for you.

874
00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:04,840
Speaker 3: This was all fine.

875
00:46:04,920 --> 00:46:05,120
Speaker 1: For me.

876
00:46:05,200 --> 00:46:07,960
Speaker 3: It was like moving along, It's like it's all good.

877
00:46:08,120 --> 00:46:08,439
Speaker 3: It felt.

878
00:46:08,520 --> 00:46:11,600
Speaker 1: We get the gypsy phone call, we get we get

879
00:46:11,640 --> 00:46:12,640
Speaker 1: some Gypsy.

880
00:46:13,360 --> 00:46:15,839
Speaker 3: Arry Michelle, like I felt like he fell right back

881
00:46:15,880 --> 00:46:16,520
Speaker 3: into the character.

882
00:46:17,040 --> 00:46:19,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, but isn't it odd.

883
00:46:19,120 --> 00:46:21,120
Speaker 1: That Dragonfly experience without Suki.

884
00:46:21,360 --> 00:46:22,759
Speaker 3: Yes, there's a big hole.

885
00:46:23,840 --> 00:46:25,839
Speaker 2: There's a hole totally because when.

886
00:46:25,760 --> 00:46:29,440
Speaker 4: They when that scene opens, you expect them to go

887
00:46:29,560 --> 00:46:33,040
Speaker 4: in the kitchen and see who and we didn't. We

888
00:46:33,080 --> 00:46:34,680
Speaker 4: saw Roy Troy, which he was fine.

889
00:46:34,440 --> 00:46:37,520
Speaker 3: But it was that if we knew Melissa was in it,

890
00:46:37,640 --> 00:46:38,799
Speaker 3: I would have just put her in there.

891
00:46:39,400 --> 00:46:42,880
Speaker 1: And then just that was that, you know, the comedy

892
00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:46,840
Speaker 1: chops of Melissa versus Roy CHOI let's see who you know.

893
00:46:47,800 --> 00:46:49,959
Speaker 1: And he did an adequate job, don't get me wrong,

894
00:46:50,080 --> 00:46:53,320
Speaker 1: but I mean you're competing with one of the finest

895
00:46:53,600 --> 00:46:57,239
Speaker 1: actresses of our era, you know, especially one of the

896
00:46:57,320 --> 00:46:58,879
Speaker 1: finest comedians. Yeah.

897
00:47:00,160 --> 00:47:10,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, So then, like you said, we had the phone

898
00:47:10,640 --> 00:47:13,600
Speaker 4: call from Gypsy. Lorela's jeep is broken again, which is

899
00:47:13,880 --> 00:47:20,320
Speaker 4: a convenient mechanism to get Lorelai into Kirk's uber to

900
00:47:20,440 --> 00:47:21,960
Speaker 4: go to Hartford seen by Rose.

901
00:47:24,719 --> 00:47:27,520
Speaker 3: What's that goods seen by Rose, Rose falls right back

902
00:47:27,560 --> 00:47:29,920
Speaker 3: into being Gypsy. And you also realize, like Rose is

903
00:47:29,960 --> 00:47:34,200
Speaker 3: a great actress, like she's great in hacks, Like she's great. Yeah,

904
00:47:34,360 --> 00:47:36,920
Speaker 3: she's she's underutilized her in Gilmourt.

905
00:47:38,200 --> 00:47:40,200
Speaker 4: I agree with that. I would have liked to have

906
00:47:40,239 --> 00:47:41,600
Speaker 4: seen more from Gypsy.

907
00:47:42,840 --> 00:47:45,200
Speaker 1: She probably was. I don't know that she was available

908
00:47:45,280 --> 00:47:47,200
Speaker 1: too much. She was working all over the place.

909
00:47:47,520 --> 00:47:48,080
Speaker 3: Probably. Yeah.

910
00:47:48,320 --> 00:47:51,080
Speaker 1: And if they're not going to commit to somebody and

911
00:47:51,160 --> 00:47:56,680
Speaker 1: give them a series regular role and their their agency

912
00:47:56,680 --> 00:47:58,759
Speaker 1: are going to just like, hey, she's not available, she's

913
00:47:58,800 --> 00:48:00,920
Speaker 1: doing this, she's doing that, and you're up stepping up,

914
00:48:01,000 --> 00:48:03,239
Speaker 1: so step up, or we're gonna just like your.

915
00:48:03,520 --> 00:48:07,640
Speaker 3: Points out that Rose Rose is Burda. Also Emily's made

916
00:48:07,680 --> 00:48:09,080
Speaker 3: and that's like, that's cool.

917
00:48:09,640 --> 00:48:11,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, it took me a couple of watches to realize that.

918
00:48:12,280 --> 00:48:13,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's hard to tell.

919
00:48:15,600 --> 00:48:18,279
Speaker 4: So they're in Kirk's Uber driving to Hartford. There's a

920
00:48:18,320 --> 00:48:22,560
Speaker 4: hole in the floor, Yeah, water pitcher over the over

921
00:48:22,640 --> 00:48:26,080
Speaker 4: the back seat, and then we get the little bit

922
00:48:26,200 --> 00:48:30,160
Speaker 4: of singing the carpenters and then okay.

923
00:48:30,080 --> 00:48:33,759
Speaker 3: Just showing this picture so everybody can see as Burda. God,

924
00:48:33,840 --> 00:48:41,160
Speaker 3: do you see that really really make her look different.

925
00:48:43,560 --> 00:48:45,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, so that's basically where we are. They get to

926
00:48:45,719 --> 00:48:51,800
Speaker 4: Emily's Burda answers the door, Emily is very welcoming towards

927
00:48:51,920 --> 00:48:55,080
Speaker 4: Rory and completely ignores Laural. I that pretty much tracked

928
00:48:55,120 --> 00:48:59,879
Speaker 4: with the entire seven seasons of the show. And then

929
00:49:00,120 --> 00:49:02,680
Speaker 4: what didn't track was all these people that are in

930
00:49:02,800 --> 00:49:06,480
Speaker 4: Emily's house and they're all fixing things and there's children

931
00:49:06,560 --> 00:49:07,200
Speaker 4: running around.

932
00:49:08,760 --> 00:49:11,000
Speaker 1: Well, no, no, I don't know if Emily just completely

933
00:49:11,080 --> 00:49:14,680
Speaker 1: ignoring Laurel I tracked for me at all. It made

934
00:49:14,760 --> 00:49:17,800
Speaker 1: it made me ask why, and we got the answer,

935
00:49:18,200 --> 00:49:19,160
Speaker 1: which I thought was great.

936
00:49:19,840 --> 00:49:20,400
Speaker 2: I agree with you.

937
00:49:20,560 --> 00:49:25,040
Speaker 3: I noticed like coldness, she's not blatantly ignoring her, and

938
00:49:25,160 --> 00:49:29,839
Speaker 3: then when you get the reveal of what happened, you're like, right,

939
00:49:30,520 --> 00:49:31,479
Speaker 3: I actually don't.

940
00:49:32,200 --> 00:49:32,719
Speaker 2: We'll get to that.

941
00:49:32,920 --> 00:49:35,920
Speaker 3: I think that was an overreaction on Emily's part. It's like,

942
00:49:36,360 --> 00:49:37,200
Speaker 3: but we'll talk about that.

943
00:49:38,360 --> 00:49:40,840
Speaker 4: I don't know. I thought it tracked for Emily because

944
00:49:40,920 --> 00:49:45,160
Speaker 4: she is in the original series she very clearly favored

945
00:49:45,239 --> 00:49:49,279
Speaker 4: Rory over Laurel I many times, So to me that

946
00:49:49,520 --> 00:49:52,480
Speaker 4: just kind of made sense that you know, she's like, oh,

947
00:49:52,880 --> 00:49:54,680
Speaker 4: I'm so happy to see you and that's like, oh, Laurel,

948
00:49:54,719 --> 00:49:57,120
Speaker 4: I's here too, Okay, So then we go in the

949
00:49:57,160 --> 00:49:59,760
Speaker 4: living room and see the picture.

950
00:50:00,520 --> 00:50:01,000
Speaker 3: Amazing.

951
00:50:03,480 --> 00:50:06,239
Speaker 4: I mean I thought it was great, Like he he

952
00:50:06,480 --> 00:50:09,200
Speaker 4: was such a presence in the show. How could they

953
00:50:09,239 --> 00:50:10,840
Speaker 4: have done anything.

954
00:50:10,640 --> 00:50:14,279
Speaker 3: To And I love the banter about like it's ok, hey,

955
00:50:14,400 --> 00:50:17,759
Speaker 3: you messed up the measurements, right I did. That was

956
00:50:17,840 --> 00:50:19,640
Speaker 3: so funny to me and left.

957
00:50:19,719 --> 00:50:19,919
Speaker 1: Yeah.

958
00:50:20,120 --> 00:50:22,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was a way to have a giggle about

959
00:50:22,400 --> 00:50:22,960
Speaker 3: something that's so.

960
00:50:23,120 --> 00:50:27,120
Speaker 4: Sad too, right, that's true. Yeah, it kind of lifted

961
00:50:27,160 --> 00:50:28,200
Speaker 4: the mood a little bit.

962
00:50:28,680 --> 00:50:31,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the thirty minutes. This is the act break.

963
00:50:31,920 --> 00:50:34,800
Speaker 1: This is propelling us into act too. And now we

964
00:50:35,040 --> 00:50:38,920
Speaker 1: know what Winter is about. It's the winter of their discontent.

965
00:50:39,120 --> 00:50:42,919
Speaker 1: It's the winter of death. It's the winter of having

966
00:50:43,040 --> 00:50:46,239
Speaker 1: to deal with the absence of Richard, which is which

967
00:50:46,320 --> 00:50:49,000
Speaker 1: is definitely cold and wintery mm hmmm.

968
00:50:49,560 --> 00:50:51,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then we.

969
00:50:54,000 --> 00:50:57,640
Speaker 1: But it started to interrupt, but it did border on ugly,

970
00:50:57,880 --> 00:51:01,439
Speaker 1: you know, Emily was yeah, ugly to the Laura.

971
00:51:01,560 --> 00:51:03,800
Speaker 3: I I mean, it was just the high drama of

972
00:51:03,920 --> 00:51:05,120
Speaker 3: this episode. It gets like.

973
00:51:06,680 --> 00:51:08,719
Speaker 1: Absolutely absolutely sorry.

974
00:51:09,239 --> 00:51:11,560
Speaker 3: Which I was good though, which I was good with it.

975
00:51:11,840 --> 00:51:15,520
Speaker 3: I needed that sort of like oh wow, okay, we're going.

976
00:51:16,239 --> 00:51:19,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it spawned a great line, mom, you spinal

977
00:51:19,400 --> 00:51:20,240
Speaker 1: tap the painting.

978
00:51:26,760 --> 00:51:30,880
Speaker 4: So that leads us into the flashback of the actual funeral,

979
00:51:31,160 --> 00:51:34,800
Speaker 4: which was incredibly well done. They told the story visually,

980
00:51:34,880 --> 00:51:37,000
Speaker 4: they didn't weigh it down with a bunch of dialogue.

981
00:51:38,280 --> 00:51:39,320
Speaker 4: I thought it was beautiful.

982
00:51:40,239 --> 00:51:41,320
Speaker 3: And as.

983
00:51:42,840 --> 00:51:46,880
Speaker 4: We go to the house and we see Jason styles.

984
00:51:46,920 --> 00:51:50,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was a great that was really great. I

985
00:51:50,440 --> 00:51:54,480
Speaker 3: have to say that was a great scene, so well acted,

986
00:51:54,880 --> 00:51:57,120
Speaker 3: like he was so right back in the character. He

987
00:51:57,239 --> 00:51:59,800
Speaker 3: was so sweet, like it was that was like everything

988
00:51:59,880 --> 00:52:03,480
Speaker 3: about that was great, right, And I thought it was

989
00:52:03,560 --> 00:52:06,680
Speaker 3: interesting to kind of a reveal unexpected, like all.

990
00:52:06,640 --> 00:52:09,360
Speaker 4: The right exactly because when we last saw him he

991
00:52:09,520 --> 00:52:12,560
Speaker 4: was gonna sue Richard and so now you know he's

992
00:52:12,640 --> 00:52:14,480
Speaker 4: here to pay his respects.

993
00:52:14,080 --> 00:52:17,120
Speaker 1: And yeah, it's really kind of smarmy in my opinion,

994
00:52:17,440 --> 00:52:19,279
Speaker 1: and here he is, are you happy? And then he

995
00:52:19,480 --> 00:52:20,719
Speaker 1: makes a move to kiss her and.

996
00:52:21,320 --> 00:52:24,839
Speaker 3: It just their old friends, remember their old friends from camp.

997
00:52:25,120 --> 00:52:27,239
Speaker 3: That's why he calls her by the nickname. And it's

998
00:52:27,360 --> 00:52:29,480
Speaker 3: like we need some of those like.

999
00:52:31,520 --> 00:52:34,440
Speaker 2: Exciting has he.

1000
00:52:34,440 --> 00:52:37,800
Speaker 1: Has Christopher vibes to me, there's there's there's Ick.

1001
00:52:37,719 --> 00:52:40,480
Speaker 3: There Digger and it's like they're old friends and like

1002
00:52:40,640 --> 00:52:42,799
Speaker 3: it is what it is. But it was I thought

1003
00:52:42,800 --> 00:52:45,920
Speaker 3: that he would be there. That totally tracks. He definitely

1004
00:52:46,000 --> 00:52:50,000
Speaker 3: would go mm hmm. So yeah, I was really I

1005
00:52:50,239 --> 00:52:50,440
Speaker 3: liked it.

1006
00:52:51,080 --> 00:52:56,600
Speaker 4: So the patio scene, Okay, first of all, great physical

1007
00:52:56,680 --> 00:52:59,839
Speaker 4: acting by Lauren Graham, like climbing over and around all

1008
00:52:59,840 --> 00:53:01,759
Speaker 4: the people and stumbling over her.

1009
00:53:01,800 --> 00:53:05,840
Speaker 1: Ok. I just want to say right here, Uh, that

1010
00:53:06,239 --> 00:53:12,200
Speaker 1: was a masterful scene. I think it was the best monologue,

1011
00:53:12,239 --> 00:53:16,520
Speaker 1: the funniest monologue that Lauren Graham did in this entire series.

1012
00:53:18,320 --> 00:53:19,760
Speaker 3: That story with her memory.

1013
00:53:20,239 --> 00:53:24,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, that story was so funny and she acted it

1014
00:53:24,680 --> 00:53:28,520
Speaker 1: so well, and you know, I'm in there with Teddy

1015
00:53:28,600 --> 00:53:31,400
Speaker 1: Bedminster and you know, you know getting uh, we were

1016
00:53:31,520 --> 00:53:33,520
Speaker 1: just finishing up you know what I mean, the British

1017
00:53:33,600 --> 00:53:36,560
Speaker 1: or gum and the brothers are you know. I mean,

1018
00:53:36,640 --> 00:53:39,280
Speaker 1: it was so inappropriate and it was so great.

1019
00:53:39,480 --> 00:53:41,680
Speaker 2: It was I scene.

1020
00:53:41,960 --> 00:53:45,360
Speaker 1: I rewound that thing five times and watched it and

1021
00:53:45,520 --> 00:53:48,160
Speaker 1: just roared every single time.

1022
00:53:48,480 --> 00:53:49,080
Speaker 3: It's good.

1023
00:53:49,680 --> 00:53:54,880
Speaker 1: Her top monologue, her test and it gave me Lucille

1024
00:53:55,520 --> 00:53:59,600
Speaker 1: ball vibes. With the physicality of the clown. I over

1025
00:53:59,640 --> 00:54:01,440
Speaker 1: this guy who was asleep in the wheelchair, and I

1026
00:54:01,560 --> 00:54:03,920
Speaker 1: was wondering, God, did this guy just die and his wheelchair.

1027
00:54:05,239 --> 00:54:07,640
Speaker 1: She's got to give a speech, I mean, what a

1028
00:54:07,800 --> 00:54:13,600
Speaker 1: hilarious I mean, to put that in such a sweet

1029
00:54:13,719 --> 00:54:18,000
Speaker 1: moment with Emily asking people to tell their favorite stories

1030
00:54:18,040 --> 00:54:19,800
Speaker 1: of Richard, I mean, you couldn't as I mean, it

1031
00:54:19,880 --> 00:54:23,839
Speaker 1: was almost sacred right, and Laurel I just blanks the bed,

1032
00:54:23,920 --> 00:54:26,400
Speaker 1: if you know what I mean. And it was just beautiful.

1033
00:54:26,560 --> 00:54:29,040
Speaker 1: It was so funny. It was the funny. I think

1034
00:54:29,080 --> 00:54:30,919
Speaker 1: it's the funniest thing I've ever seen on that show.

1035
00:54:30,960 --> 00:54:33,479
Speaker 1: I've never seen anything funnier. It was great.

1036
00:54:33,800 --> 00:54:35,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, I thought it was really good.

1037
00:54:35,960 --> 00:54:39,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I wrote down, just hand her the Emmy,

1038
00:54:39,440 --> 00:54:43,360
Speaker 1: just hand it to her. Now, nobody's this good. Sorry,

1039
00:54:44,160 --> 00:54:47,320
Speaker 1: And it was just brilliant. Kudos, kudos.

1040
00:54:47,480 --> 00:54:52,400
Speaker 4: And then Emily's look at the end of just like

1041
00:54:52,840 --> 00:54:55,880
Speaker 4: utter speechlessness, like I can't believe she just said that.

1042
00:54:58,440 --> 00:55:01,560
Speaker 4: And then that leads us into the k argument. I mean,

1043
00:55:01,719 --> 00:55:07,399
Speaker 4: I could I understand Emily's point of view. I think

1044
00:55:07,480 --> 00:55:10,400
Speaker 4: they were both hurting and they were both taking it

1045
00:55:10,480 --> 00:55:14,000
Speaker 4: out on each other. And I always think you know, Laurlai,

1046
00:55:14,040 --> 00:55:15,960
Speaker 4: couldn't you have just like made up a story?

1047
00:55:17,080 --> 00:55:20,360
Speaker 3: Correct? But it was also so lourla and like everybody

1048
00:55:20,480 --> 00:55:22,520
Speaker 3: like I, I think I would have just been like

1049
00:55:22,719 --> 00:55:24,920
Speaker 3: that was embarrassing and given her hall pass. It turned

1050
00:55:24,960 --> 00:55:25,600
Speaker 3: so ugly.

1051
00:55:26,680 --> 00:55:31,200
Speaker 1: But that's her default, you know, that's that's a personality

1052
00:55:31,280 --> 00:55:35,400
Speaker 1: that was formed by what she considers to be the

1053
00:55:35,840 --> 00:55:40,319
Speaker 1: the the abuse from her family, and the reason why

1054
00:55:40,480 --> 00:55:44,520
Speaker 1: she left is to use stick and humor to cover

1055
00:55:44,719 --> 00:55:48,840
Speaker 1: everything and to make light of everything. And even in

1056
00:55:48,960 --> 00:55:52,360
Speaker 1: this moment, it was the only way she was possibly

1057
00:55:52,440 --> 00:55:55,040
Speaker 1: going to survive because she's not she doesn't feel like

1058
00:55:55,200 --> 00:55:58,719
Speaker 1: part of She doesn't feel like Emily's daughter half of

1059
00:55:58,760 --> 00:56:00,480
Speaker 1: the time, or probably three quarters of the time. So

1060
00:56:00,560 --> 00:56:02,839
Speaker 1: why is she calling on me? I'm not even her daughter.

1061
00:56:02,920 --> 00:56:05,040
Speaker 1: She never even treated me and I have to she

1062
00:56:05,160 --> 00:56:07,520
Speaker 1: never treated me really like a daughter at all. It's

1063
00:56:07,520 --> 00:56:11,359
Speaker 1: always just been mountains of criticism and anger coming at

1064
00:56:11,440 --> 00:56:13,840
Speaker 1: me and I'm the shit black sheep of the family

1065
00:56:13,920 --> 00:56:16,640
Speaker 1: and the shame of the family and not upholding the

1066
00:56:16,719 --> 00:56:20,439
Speaker 1: family name. And now I'm supposed to give some testimonial

1067
00:56:20,600 --> 00:56:20,840
Speaker 1: in a.

1068
00:56:22,040 --> 00:56:23,600
Speaker 3: I would go as far as you're going with it,

1069
00:56:23,800 --> 00:56:25,719
Speaker 3: but the part that I think that really does make

1070
00:56:25,800 --> 00:56:29,640
Speaker 3: sense that you're saying is her coping mechanism is sort

1071
00:56:29,680 --> 00:56:35,359
Speaker 3: of that, yeah, you know, sarcasm, making a joke, trying

1072
00:56:35,400 --> 00:56:37,680
Speaker 3: to you know, and so because it.

1073
00:56:37,680 --> 00:56:40,000
Speaker 1: Works for her in every other situation of her life.

1074
00:56:40,600 --> 00:56:44,120
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah. And then in the in the kitchen argument,

1075
00:56:44,239 --> 00:56:49,279
Speaker 4: you know, Emily is unable to acknowledge that Lorella is

1076
00:56:49,360 --> 00:56:53,000
Speaker 4: grieving also, and she immediately goes to a place of

1077
00:56:53,120 --> 00:56:56,320
Speaker 4: accusation like you know, you're not upset about this, or

1078
00:56:56,560 --> 00:56:58,960
Speaker 4: like you're I forget exactly how she worded it, but

1079
00:56:59,560 --> 00:57:03,920
Speaker 4: she's not acknowledging that Lorelai is experiencing pain too, and

1080
00:57:04,120 --> 00:57:06,600
Speaker 4: that's when they have the whole and that's that's that's

1081
00:57:06,640 --> 00:57:10,200
Speaker 4: the end with about a full freaking circle, Like this

1082
00:57:10,440 --> 00:57:13,120
Speaker 4: is like you were saying, Scott, this is exactly where

1083
00:57:13,200 --> 00:57:17,040
Speaker 4: it always ends up, is they fight about whatever and

1084
00:57:17,120 --> 00:57:19,080
Speaker 4: laurel I ends up feeling like she's not part of

1085
00:57:19,120 --> 00:57:20,560
Speaker 4: the family, and you know.

1086
00:57:20,760 --> 00:57:22,720
Speaker 3: All when you're talking about it, it just makes my

1087
00:57:22,960 --> 00:57:23,439
Speaker 3: heart hurt.

1088
00:57:23,520 --> 00:57:27,160
Speaker 1: Like that scene was just it was painfully it was

1089
00:57:27,200 --> 00:57:31,240
Speaker 1: beautifully written, beautifully acted, and it's so it's so true.

1090
00:57:31,640 --> 00:57:38,000
Speaker 1: It rang so true when a parent dies, it all

1091
00:57:38,560 --> 00:57:42,200
Speaker 1: tends to start to fall apart. A structure of a

1092
00:57:42,320 --> 00:57:45,600
Speaker 1: family is impacted to a point where and you know,

1093
00:57:45,760 --> 00:57:49,880
Speaker 1: everybody acts reacts to that death in different ways. The

1094
00:57:49,960 --> 00:57:52,800
Speaker 1: siblings react in different ways, not every you know, it's

1095
00:57:52,840 --> 00:57:56,400
Speaker 1: not like everybody's holding hands and you know that's that's

1096
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Speaker 1: a very rare circumstance. But I know from experience perience

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Speaker 1: that people have different responses, and those two had far

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Speaker 1: different responses. So it's very true to life.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, agreed.

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Speaker 1: All right, that's gonna wrap her up. Winter episode one

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Speaker 1: of the seasons from Netflix. Thank you, Susanne, Thank you, waymy,

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Speaker 1: it's always a pleasure rattling swords, sparring, and.

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Speaker 3: Joy I'm happy to be sparring again. We really did

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Speaker 3: not spar all of season seven, and I think that's

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Speaker 3: because it was kind of season seven sort of just

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Speaker 3: chugs along, but it's not so.

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Speaker 1: There's there's some really strong episodes in season seven. I

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Speaker 1: have to give it credit anyway, that's gonna do it.

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Speaker 1: we need you, UH can't live without you. And that's

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