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Speaker 1: First Date follow Up powered by the Advocates Injury Attorneys

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Speaker 1: online at Advocates Law dot com.

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Speaker 2: Elliott is on the phone today for a first date

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Speaker 2: follow up. He's getting ghosted by a woman named Zoe Elliott.

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Speaker 2: Before we get into why you think you're getting ghosted

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Speaker 2: and stuff, how long has it been since you heard

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Speaker 2: from Zoe?

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Speaker 3: Uh, several weeks?

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Speaker 4: And in that time, how how many times did you

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Speaker 4: try to reach out to her?

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Speaker 3: Oh? Only really twice?

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Speaker 5: You know, I did the follow up after a data

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Speaker 5: followed up the next day, and then you're back, and

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Speaker 5: then I waited.

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Speaker 3: Sometime later in the week.

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Speaker 5: I texted her one more time and it was like, hey,

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Speaker 5: you know, it's checking in something.

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Speaker 3: I forgot what I said and then I left it.

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Speaker 5: You know, I know there's more times you attacked the

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Speaker 5: last chance you have ever seen that person again?

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Speaker 4: Kind of tell us about your date with Zoe.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, so we were set up between mutual friends.

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Speaker 3: And I've always wanted to go indoor skydiving.

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Speaker 5: Well, actually I've always want to go outdoors toe kai diving,

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Speaker 5: but I thought i'd start. She thought it sounded fun,

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Speaker 5: and we did it, and it turns out she was

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Speaker 5: actually really nervous about height, so she may have it

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Speaker 5: may have been a reluctant yet that I couldn't read

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Speaker 5: through text.

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Speaker 3: So we didn't do much it and then we just

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Speaker 3: went to a restaurant and had good conversation.

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Speaker 5: I thought we clicked and uh, and then I dropped

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Speaker 5: her off to her house, you know, no intimacy and uh,

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Speaker 5: haven't heard back.

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Speaker 4: How did she handle the skydiving part, even though like

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Speaker 4: she wasn't a huge fan? Was she freaking out? Did

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Speaker 4: she do it anyway? Was she cheering you on?

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Speaker 5: No, she she was freaking out, But I thought it

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Speaker 5: was like a fun freaking out, like you know, like

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Speaker 5: you're nervous before doing something. But then I think, as

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Speaker 5: as we did as I you know, I learned she

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Speaker 5: wasn't into it at all, and I didn't intend to

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Speaker 5: make her do something she didn't want to do it,

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Speaker 5: you know, so I misread it.

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Speaker 2: I guess you'd think that that wouldn't be something that

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Speaker 2: would be a deal breaker, though necessarily I don't know.

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Speaker 2: You know, would it be a deal breaker for you

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Speaker 2: if a guy took you indoor skydiving and then you

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Speaker 2: found out you absolutely hated the experience.

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Speaker 4: I want to say yes off the bat. However, it

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Speaker 4: reminds me of the time where I don't do bridge jumping.

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Speaker 4: I don't do any of that kind of stuff. I

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Speaker 4: get scared. So there was a guy that I was with,

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Speaker 4: we were all on vacation in Mexico, and he's like,

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Speaker 4: come on, just do it because I never would have

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Speaker 4: done it otherwise. But I did it because he made

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Speaker 4: me do it, and I was so thankful. Really yeah, okay,

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Speaker 4: so it ended up being a good thing because he

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Speaker 4: made me face my fears, So you know, it could

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Speaker 4: be a good thing.

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Speaker 5: I should also add that I'm that I'm kind of

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Speaker 5: hoping that that that's the reason, because I forgot to

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Speaker 5: mention him also divorced, and that definitely came up during

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Speaker 5: our dinner.

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Speaker 3: Conversation, and you know, that could potentially be a reason you.

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Speaker 2: Were set up through friends. So she didn't know you

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Speaker 2: were divorced before the date.

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Speaker 3: I don't know you knew before, and but we talked

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Speaker 3: about it during dinner.

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Speaker 4: It's a lot for a person to handle, I think,

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Speaker 4: but if you communicate all of those things really well,

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Speaker 4: then it's you can you know, you can digest it.

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Speaker 7: I mean, if you don't mind me asking since it

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Speaker 7: started been like three weeks, is there any like reason

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Speaker 7: you really really.

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Speaker 4: Want to get a hold of her and out like

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Speaker 4: it's been a hot minute.

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Speaker 1: You're not.

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Speaker 4: You're not wrong, No, you're not. That's a good question, Victoria.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I guess I've been in my shell since the divorce,

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Speaker 5: and so this is like my first coming out of

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Speaker 5: shell moment, and so you're probably right.

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Speaker 3: I probably shouldn't be so focused on it, but I am.

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Speaker 4: But also the upside, even if you are focused on it,

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Speaker 4: whether you end up dating her again, at least you'll

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Speaker 4: know what the situation and issue was as you continue

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Speaker 4: to move forward post divorce life, right, Sure, that's true

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Speaker 4: all positive spin guys.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because getting back to the dating world after a

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Speaker 2: divorce has to be difficult.

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Speaker 5: Well, yeah, I mean I've been, I've been, you know,

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Speaker 3: And so you know, I was nervous about that.

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Speaker 2: The pony has been in the stable for a long time,

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Speaker 2: and the pony is just learning to get out and

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Speaker 2: run again and just.

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Speaker 4: Wants to run wild. I mean all the other part

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Speaker 4: of it too. I will say, for her to find

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Speaker 4: out that the pony needs to run wild. It's like, well,

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Speaker 4: maybe she wants to put a pony in a stable,

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Speaker 4: and so if she's meeting a wild horse, yeah, rather

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Speaker 4: have a tame one. What the hell are you talking

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Speaker 4: about a little loss?

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Speaker 3: How are you talking about sky I mean, I guess

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Speaker 3: that sums me up. It's like we didn't go skydiving,

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Speaker 3: and we went indoors.

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Speaker 2: All right, Elliott, the big pony, we're gonna do. We're

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Speaker 2: gonna play a song, come back and then call her

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Speaker 2: and see if we can figure it out for you

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Speaker 2: and maybe get you another date if you still want

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Speaker 2: one after hear why okay, alrighty, all right, we'll play

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Speaker 2: a song, come back and get your first date follow

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Speaker 2: up next. I'm personally excited to watch the pony run

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Speaker 2: to watch Elliott, who's on the phone right now for

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Speaker 2: a first date follow up, get out of the stable

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Speaker 2: and let his that the hair whip through his mane

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Speaker 2: as he runs down an open field seeing if he

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Speaker 2: can get another date with Zoe, who's ghostinging Elliott, just

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Speaker 2: refresh everybody's memory of your situation, BEFO before we give

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Speaker 2: our call.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, so we're friends of friends, so we were introduced

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Speaker 5: that way and I thought it'd be fun to go

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Speaker 3: Turns out she was really nervous about it and didn't

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Speaker 5: So part of me is like, maybe that's why she's

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Speaker 5: ghost to me, or it's it's the fact that I'm divorced.

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Speaker 5: But we had a really nice dinner together afterward, and

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Speaker 5: I haven't heard since.

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Speaker 7: All.

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Speaker 3: Right, here we go.

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Speaker 2: I'm a dollar phone number right now and we'll see

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Speaker 2: if we can figure it out for you. Hello, I

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Speaker 2: may speak to Zoe.

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Speaker 3: Please.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, hey, Zoe, how are you? My name is Jewble

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Speaker 2: from a radio show called The Jewbil Show.

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Speaker 4: I'm Nina, I'm Victoria. I'm also on the show.

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Speaker 3: So many people here.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there's three of us on the phone right now,

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Speaker 2: and we're calling you because one of our listeners actually

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Speaker 2: sent us an email about you. So we need to

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Speaker 2: ask you a question.

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Speaker 4: If that's okay.

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Speaker 7: Oh no, I'm nervous.

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Speaker 3: Should I be nervous?

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Speaker 4: I don't think So.

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Speaker 2: We're on the phone because one of our because we

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Speaker 2: do a segment called the First Date follow Up, where

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Speaker 2: if somebody goes on a date and gets ghosted, they

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Speaker 2: can email us to get the other person on the

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Speaker 2: phone and ask why they are ghosting them. We got

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Speaker 2: an email about you from I like to call him

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Speaker 2: a stallion. I don't know why, but a stallion named Elliott.

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Speaker 7: Elliott Oh, I thought when you were talking about the

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Speaker 7: first date saying it it was probably Elliott.

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Speaker 3: Oh okay, yeah.

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Speaker 2: So he says it's been a few weeks since he

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Speaker 2: talked to him, and he wants to know, why do

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Speaker 2: you mind telling us? I?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, sure, it's weird. I actually had a really good

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Speaker 7: time on the date with Elliott. I mean sort of

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Speaker 7: like I don't know if he told you, but he

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Speaker 7: took me indoor skydiving, which I was not a fan of.

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Speaker 7: I'm afraid of heights and anyway, but he did it,

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Speaker 7: and like I tried and it was no but I

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Speaker 3: I don't know why I'm not getting back to him.

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Speaker 3: I think maybe there's a little piece of me.

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Speaker 7: That is concerned about him being divorced. I haven't been

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Speaker 7: married before, and I don't know. I just feel like,

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Speaker 7: if he's coming out of a divorce, is he gonna

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Speaker 3: How curious does he want to be. I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I guess that just kind of concerns me a little.

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Speaker 4: What do you want, Zoe, Well.

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Speaker 7: I'm looking for a life's partner, like I want to

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Speaker 3: I want to find my person.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, it's just hard to know, like he's been there,

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Speaker 7: You know, we had a good conversation about it, but

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Speaker 7: like I just can't help but think that if somebody's

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Speaker 7: been through it once and then divorced, they just may

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Speaker 4: Or I think that's a fair concern, you know, being

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Speaker 4: I don't know if it's post pandemic that everybody in

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Speaker 4: what does that mean for a person who's never been

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Speaker 4: mean honesty and asking him what's going on. But I

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Speaker 4: think you're right, Zoe, in a little bit of a

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Speaker 4: In my experience, they generally don't know what they want,

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Speaker 4: so it's kind of harder for someone who does to

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Speaker 4: maneuver that type of relationship.

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Speaker 2: And be an interesting situation to be in. I'm married,

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Speaker 2: but if I wasn't, if we had, if we ended

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Speaker 2: up getting a divorce or whatever, and I got back

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Speaker 2: that I would probably be like, I'm never going down

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Speaker 2: would also be very confused. I would be a confused

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Speaker 2: little stallion like Elliet is. He was stabled up for

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Speaker 2: a long time. Zoe.

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Speaker 4: You know, I know.

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Speaker 2: He's out there running around the field and has no

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Speaker 4: It's like, is it worth roping him when you know

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Speaker 4: he needs to be wild?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: Right? Is it hurt? Let me tell you?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: And I don't.

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Speaker 7: I don't want to like waste a bunch of my

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Speaker 2: Well, thank you for telling us why you're ghosting him.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I wonder where he says that? Do you

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Speaker 2: do you ever want to find out where Elliots head

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Speaker 2: is at with everything.

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Speaker 7: I do, I actually really do, and like I guess,

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Speaker 7: like I kind of I feel like I want to

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Speaker 7: apologize to him because ghosting someone is rude and like

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Speaker 7: I feel like that's not me, but I don't know.

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Speaker 7: I feel kind of bad about it because he really

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Speaker 7: is awesome, like he's a cool guy and yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 7: I do want to know.

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Speaker 2: Okay, cool, that's tandy because he's actually on the phone

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Speaker 2: and has been listening this whole time and wants to

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Speaker 2: talk to you.

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Speaker 3: Hello, Hi, Elliott. How's it going well?

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Speaker 5: Good?

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Speaker 3: I'm sorry, I feel bad. Oh, don't feel bad. I

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Speaker 3: get it it.

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Speaker 4: Uh.

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Speaker 8: If it's weird, it's weird for me being divorced, and

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Speaker 8: I never wanted to be divorced, But that also means I,

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Speaker 8: you know, I am I. I didn't get divorced because

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Speaker 8: I don't like marriage. I got divorce because and it

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Speaker 8: worked between me and the other person. So you know,

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Speaker 8: I'm not looking to grave many pastures.

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Speaker 3: That sounds that sounds pretty bad.

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Speaker 4: I love the analogy, Ellie. I feel like I need

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Speaker 4: to apologize to you too, because I was speculating on

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Speaker 4: how you may be feeling at this point. So I

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Speaker 4: don't want to put words into your mouth. I want

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Speaker 4: to let you explain yourself honestly.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: No.

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Speaker 3: So it's like, I don't want to be dating very long.

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Speaker 6: If the first date I find the person I want

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Speaker 6: to spend the rest of my life with, then that's

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Speaker 6: then that's bullied for me and the other person. It's like,

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Speaker 6: uh so, no, I'm not looking to date. I'm looking

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Speaker 6: to find the right person. And I thought we clicked,

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Speaker 6: so that's why I kind of went down this route.

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Speaker 7: Oh that's awesome. I thought we clicked too.

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Speaker 3: That's great.

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Speaker 2: Hold, lot of clicking going. I know, Zoe, would you

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Speaker 2: like to go on another date with Elliott?

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Speaker 4: We'll pay for it? Oh my gosh, even better. Yes, Yeah,

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Speaker 4: congratulations Elliott. All right, you're getting out of the table again. Ye.

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Speaker 4: Elliott's a happy Stallion. I love it.

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Speaker 2: Congratulations you guys so much fun.

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Speaker 4: All right, thank you, Oh, thank you guys.

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