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Speaker 1: What is going on? Everybody? John Middle cop Three and

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Speaker 1: Out Podcast Monday at through a little holiday weekend, uh,

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Speaker 1: pass Over, Easter, whatever you celebrated, Hopefully it was great.

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Speaker 1: I spent some time with my own family, my little

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Speaker 1: A lot of energy. High energy would make for high motor.

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Speaker 1: I I got Apple Plus and NFL stories, just kind

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Speaker 1: all these Scottie Scheffler, the number one player in the world,

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Speaker 1: was the Corn Ferry Player of the Year like three

427
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Speaker 1: years ago. It's it's where all the top guys go

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Speaker 1: to play. Did you eventually get to the PGA Tour right?

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Speaker 1: I I grew up in Davis, California. About twenty minutes

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Speaker 1: away from me was the Sacramento river Cats, and they

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Speaker 1: used to the Giants, took them smart business move. They

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Speaker 1: used to have the ace and forever the a's you know,

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Speaker 1: because and they still are. The way they build their franchise,

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Speaker 1: they're constantly developing and making trades. So incredible players came

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Speaker 1: through the river Cats system and a lot of I

436
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Speaker 1: mean a lot of people go, but it's pretty boring,

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Speaker 1: like it's it's not the same as going to Giants Dodgers.

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Speaker 1: So when I get when I do this, like I

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Speaker 1: watched football all fall on Saturdays for ultimately the payoff

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Speaker 1: of Ohio State, Michigan, Alabama, Auburn, Alabama, l s U.

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Speaker 1: You know, hopefully Clems in Miami if Christ the ball

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Speaker 1: can get them good. And I saw some pictures of

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Speaker 1: Mario tweeting out there their spring game. He's gonna make

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Speaker 1: that place relevant, you know, hopefully USC Oregon becomes a

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Speaker 1: big game again. Like that's why I want for Sunday

446
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Speaker 1: Night football Allan Chris, Like we make fun of now

447
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Speaker 1: it's still the NFL, so I watch and this is

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Speaker 1: how I make my living, So I I you know,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna talk about it. But like when Thursday Night football,

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Speaker 1: remember it was the Jets versus the Colts and Josh

451
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Speaker 1: Johnson came in. It was kind of like a running joke.

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Speaker 1: Who is the starting quarterback this weekend for the USFL?

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Speaker 1: Josh Johnson and I have nothing but respect for all

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Speaker 1: those guys that played this weekend or in this league.

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Speaker 1: I would imagine a large percentage of them or Division

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Speaker 1: one players, I'd imagine a large percentage of them have

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Speaker 1: got a cup of coffee in training camps as practice

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Speaker 1: squad players. Some of them have played in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: It is very, very difficult to make it to the

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Speaker 1: highest level of football, which is everyone's goals, coaches included.

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Speaker 1: But it is tough. But ultimately it's just gonna be

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Speaker 1: a secondary product. And part of the reason that I watched,

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Speaker 1: like on Saturday night, I was watching the Warriors. Why

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Speaker 1: because it's Steph Curry and Clay Thompson. I don't know

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Speaker 1: if you've heard of them. They're called the splash Pros.

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Speaker 1: They moved the needle for me that they they generate

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Speaker 1: what I look for in watching sports. No different than

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Speaker 1: watching Jordan's speak when the golf tournament yesterday. I'm never

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Speaker 1: gonna get that in the USFL. Now, the ratings came

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Speaker 1: out and three million people watched. But as my buddy who,

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Speaker 1: I have a lot of admiration for this guy too.

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Speaker 1: He left the athletic to start his own sub stack.

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Speaker 1: I have appreciate any guy that with the entrepreneurial spirit

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Speaker 1: and takes off from the corporation to do it themselves.

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Speaker 1: And that's what Ethan Sherwood Strouss did, and he's written

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Speaker 1: articles fantastic little sub stack if you're into basketball and

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Speaker 1: just kind of the inner workings of like the business

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Speaker 1: and sports, and he's kind of on this. Television is

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Speaker 1: kind of cooking their books right now because they've added

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Speaker 1: this out of home element, right out of home elements.

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Speaker 1: So if you're at the bars, but no one has

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Speaker 1: any clue how many people are at the bars. I

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Speaker 1: said this forever about terrestrial radio. No one has any

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Speaker 1: clue how many people are listening to radio. Whether you're

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Speaker 1: in a major market or a small market, it's all

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Speaker 1: based on these meters. And there may be five people

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Speaker 1: with meters in a market. In a market of five

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Speaker 1: million people, there's five people with meters. They might listen

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Speaker 1: to sports, and that dictates the ratings. It's like this

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Speaker 1: is a complete you're you're pulling this out of the

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Speaker 1: crevices deep inside of you know what, Like what are

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Speaker 1: we doing? And TV ratings are a little bit like that.

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Speaker 1: Just because you, I and everyone else are watching let's

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Speaker 1: just say the World Series, they don't account for every

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Speaker 1: single human. It's based on little meters on Nielsen. So

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Speaker 1: it's complete guessing game. So do I truly believe that

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Speaker 1: three million people? I don't, But clearly some people watched

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Speaker 1: in football. The power of foot ball is impressive. It

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Speaker 1: is not to be messed with. We love what what

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Speaker 1: baseball used to be in this country is now football.

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Speaker 1: It is the American pastime. So it's just gonna people

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Speaker 1: are board. The NBA is diminished in value obviously, golf.

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Speaker 1: You know, by the time football comes on, golf already over.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what else you could even be watching.

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Speaker 1: But to me, this is just something until apps, I

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Speaker 1: have to talk about this. I'm just not it just

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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna watch it, mainly because it doesn't do

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Speaker 1: that much for me. Now, if it does something for you,

509
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Speaker 1: maybe you're more of a football die hard than I am.

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Speaker 1: That could be true when if you put an NFL

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Speaker 1: game on in the middle of April on Saturday night,

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Speaker 1: John middlecops. They are on his couch watching every second.

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Speaker 1: But if you give me USFL two teams I've never

514
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Speaker 1: I don't even know the names of which is random players.

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Speaker 1: I I just won't be able to physically watch for

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Speaker 1: more than like ten or fifteen minutes. That's just me

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Speaker 1: and and we'll see maybe I'm wrong, and maybe it'll

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Speaker 1: be bigger. And if it gets so big that I

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Speaker 1: have to talk about it, shouldn't watch I'm a businessman first,

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Speaker 1: you know, But as of right now, it did nothing

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Speaker 1: for me because I know this. I've seen this movie

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Speaker 1: over and over. There's gonna be a tiny percentage of

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Speaker 1: these guys to get a shot in the NFL. At

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Speaker 1: least if you go to a minor league baseball game,

525
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Speaker 1: a lot of those guys are gonna go to the

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Speaker 1: big leagues. That's not the case here. It's just not

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Speaker 1: And some of these guys are washed out guys that

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Speaker 1: are never gonna get a shot again. Again. It's very

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Speaker 1: impressive to be at that. To be that good at

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Speaker 1: football is not easy. Better than me, better than you,

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Speaker 1: better most people. It doesn't mean I have to watch

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Speaker 1: the other thing on Apple TV, getting the direct package

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Speaker 1: or the Sunday package, which you know, feels inevitable them

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Speaker 1: or Amazon. I'd say the same thing for Amazon. We've

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Speaker 1: talked a little bit about this before. Their greatest advantage

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Speaker 1: is they have so much more money than these television networks.

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Speaker 1: They have so much more money, and ultimately they can

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Speaker 1: make purchases, and you know, these streaming services been doing

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Speaker 1: this for a long time. It's just produced content to

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Speaker 1: just generate buzz, to just keep the business going. Whether

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Speaker 1: if a lot of people watch like they let's say,

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Speaker 1: invest five dollars in the ten shows, Well, if two

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Speaker 1: of the ten of them hit, it's all worth it.

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Speaker 1: They just keep taking swings and listen. A lot of

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Speaker 1: businesses like that, right, a lot. I mean, it's like

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Speaker 1: how venture capitalism works, but with Amazon and with Apple,

547
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Speaker 1: unlike Fox or CBS. If I cut a huge check

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Speaker 1: to the NFL, I need a lot of people to watch,

549
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Speaker 1: because the moment people stop watching or ratings go down,

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Speaker 1: it's harder for me to sell ads to make money

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Speaker 1: off that product. And once I get to a certain number,

552
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Speaker 1: we're probably gonna break even or even go the other way.

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Speaker 1: That's the problem with the NBA, right. It's not that

554
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Speaker 1: still millions of people aren't gonna watch their playoffs. It's

555
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Speaker 1: based on what they sold it at. If it's lower

556
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Speaker 1: than that, it's harder to sell the advertisements, especially if

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Speaker 1: the economy economy gets a little weird right now at

558
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Speaker 1: the premiums right, So it's it's one big kind of

559
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Speaker 1: structure to make money. In a little pie chart, I

560
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Speaker 1: spend X to make Y to make a profit of

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Speaker 1: Z and Apple and Amazon early on are going to

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Speaker 1: give a ship about making a profit forever. Amazon and

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Speaker 1: I mean those of you that fall closely, Like do

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Speaker 1: they even make money on the delivery service? They make

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Speaker 1: money on memberships, recurring revenue on Prime and obviously through

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Speaker 1: now acquiring whole foods in that business. But for a

567
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Speaker 1: long period of time, like they were not and obviously

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Speaker 1: their stock, but they the reason everything was so cheap

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Speaker 1: because they were cool, breaking even it was to get

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Speaker 1: you there, and then they expanded into other places. Apple

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Speaker 1: TV like they're they're not gonna be average, Like they

572
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Speaker 1: just got into baseball. Why why not? I was sitting

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Speaker 1: down on my on my bed flipping on TV on

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Speaker 1: Friday night and Apple TV now has I didn't know

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Speaker 1: that this some of you might They have double header

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Speaker 1: every Friday. Now the podcast wasn't great, but they just

577
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Speaker 1: have the content. Why because why not? Because eventually we'll

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Speaker 1: probably have it all Because this is one area of television,

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Speaker 1: these live games people still watch. Now, certain sports people

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Speaker 1: watch more of than others, but people still watch it.

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Speaker 1: And I just think Amazon and now Apple they're they're

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Speaker 1: playing a different game than everyone else and specifically the networks.

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Speaker 1: Now there's a loyalty from Jerry Jones or Bob Kraft

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Speaker 1: or some you know, some of these long time owners,

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Speaker 1: the Rooneys with all these networks with the names you've

586
00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:38,920
Speaker 1: heard from ever, the less Moon Vezzas and the Bob Igers.

587
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Speaker 1: And but these these kids that are gonna run their teams,

588
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Speaker 1: the Steven Jones, the Jonathan Crafts, They're gonna care way

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Speaker 1: less because Apple and Amazon are gonna be able to

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Speaker 1: cut them checks at numbers that eventually these TV networks

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Speaker 1: probably or not. Now, that's why all these TV networks

592
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Speaker 1: have tried to basically speed up this progress of their

593
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Speaker 1: streaming services over the last three or four years. But

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Speaker 1: it's hard to catch up too. I don't know tech

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Speaker 1: companies who are in that world. And if you told

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Speaker 1: me that the NFL, Major League Baseball, the NBA and

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Speaker 1: all these are basically all on Apple Plus and Amazon

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Speaker 1: and YouTube team in YouTube in the next not not

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Speaker 1: obviously the next five years, but in the next twenty

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Speaker 1: to me, it isn't believable. It's very realistic, and it

601
00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:35,040
Speaker 1: feels like that's where we're going. Let's just fly through

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Speaker 1: some stories, uh, Stefan Gilmore signed with the Colts. Good signing.

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Speaker 1: You know that this listen, It's all about quarterback play

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Speaker 1: with them because their team is good. They have a

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Speaker 1: really good offensive line, they have an excellent running back.

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Speaker 1: I like Michael Pittman. Obviously, they've got good players at

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Speaker 1: every level of their defense. So I mean, to me,

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Speaker 1: they have no excuse if Matt Ryan just plays like

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Speaker 1: a top thirteen fourteen quarterback in the NFL to not

610
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Speaker 1: win eleven games zero. And I think there is tangible

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Speaker 1: pressure on this coach GM combination to to execute and

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Speaker 1: to win, you know. I mean last year was pretty

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Speaker 1: devastating to lose with the Jacks the costume playoff spot,

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Speaker 1: but really the week before they lost at home to

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Speaker 1: a reeling Raiders team. Think about that. The Raiders team

616
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Speaker 1: was in shambles. They were just running out of juice,

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Speaker 1: and the Raiders, I mean Derek Carr kind of single

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Speaker 1: handedly him and Renfro beat him. That was a bad loss.

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Speaker 1: And ultimately now they've added Gilmore, They've added Matt Ryan,

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Speaker 1: they flipped him out obviously for wentz um be interesting.

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Speaker 1: I saw Jeremy Fowler a little headline had reported that

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Speaker 1: Malik Willis is visiting the Lions. DC to a buddy

623
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Speaker 1: in the league on the phone on Sunday driving home

624
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Speaker 1: from from Easter, and he's like, you know the problem

625
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Speaker 1: with Malik willis one he's just so raw and doesn't

626
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Speaker 1: know what's going on. Is all of his good play,

627
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Speaker 1: he doesn't play within the pocket. And ultimately this league,

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Speaker 1: even the runners, right, Josh Allen can run, Mahomes can scramble,

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Speaker 1: Russell Forever could scramble, Aaron Rodgers can scramble, but they

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Speaker 1: can dominate from within the pocket. That's where you got

631
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Speaker 1: to do your work inside the pocket. Can this guy

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Speaker 1: excel inside the pocket? He's six ft tall, so a

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Speaker 1: lot of his work would probably be early on his

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Speaker 1: career outside the pocket. You know, this guy, he's gonna

635
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Speaker 1: go probably higher than he should based off his film

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Speaker 1: because of his attributes. And listen, I'm an attribute guy,

637
00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:38,040
Speaker 1: but this guy could also get someone fired. Baker Mayfield

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Speaker 1: clue just doesn't feel like he has a landing spot

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Speaker 1: where it's April. Where is Baker Mayfield is gonna play?

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Speaker 1: We're just asking yourself where is Baker Mayfield gonna play?

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Speaker 1: an answer. Jarvis Landry, I saw, he's gonna wait till

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Speaker 1: And he said he would say with Honey Badger, to

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Speaker 1: and they draft two wide receivers in the first two days,

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Speaker 1: would they draft those guys if they signed Jarvis Lander?

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Speaker 1: Who knows? Probably. I think it's a smart move for

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Speaker 1: him to kind of slow play this thing. Denzel Award

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Speaker 1: hundred million. Um, you never really, you know. I saw

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Speaker 1: if you think about it, they drafted two guys in

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Speaker 1: that draft in the top four Baker Mayfield, Denzel Award,

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Speaker 1: only one guy sticking it out. But you could argue

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Speaker 1: I mean they're paying guys a lot of cash, paid

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Speaker 1: in anything and all. I think any elite player wants,

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Speaker 1: big decision, it's nice to know because Andy knows I

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Speaker 1: would not be a super Bowl champion of these two guys.

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Speaker 1: They're high character guys. They're the face of the program,

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Speaker 1: like and like he said, they're really close with Tyreek.

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Speaker 1: you know, the two best coach of the league Belichick,

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Speaker 1: Matt Patricia. Joe Judge is gonna I mean coaching offense?

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Speaker 1: like their studo offensive coordinator with Belichick? Is he gonna

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Speaker 1: coach Mac Jones Patricia's coaching offense too. That that's where

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Speaker 1: we're at with these two guys. That seems a little

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Speaker 1: crazy builds the greatest coach of all time. But to

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Speaker 1: it's It's why the Chiefs have run circles around them

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Speaker 1: the Kyler thing. It's gonna be very like is Kyler

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Speaker 1: not gonna show up to the Arizona until he gets

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Speaker 1: a new contract, which they're not going to give him.

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Speaker 1: Is that? Is that really gonna happen? It seems a

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Speaker 1: of the show, but you're not afraid to speak your mind.

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Speaker 1: Do you think the Charges are capable of winning the

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Speaker 1: a f C West Raiders are always underperforming? Chiefs Lost

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Speaker 1: I mean they definitely have the talent. I mean the

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Speaker 1: Chargers have the talent to be the number one overall

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Speaker 1: seed so that they they beat the Chiefs once last year. Uh.

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Speaker 1: You know, to me, they you can't lose the Raiders.

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Speaker 1: You can't lose the game like they did at home

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Speaker 1: to the Chiefs. They just to me, their question marks

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Speaker 1: are coach. It's just their head coach. Quarterbacks a star. Uh,

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Speaker 1: they have players that are stars. Can their head coach

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Speaker 1: be a good head coach? You know, this year is

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Speaker 1: huge because honestly they should be at win team and

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Speaker 1: listen for a few years. I never missed episode. Appreciate

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Speaker 1: that this is from Ed. Hypothetically, who do you think

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Speaker 1: Panthers if traded there? Baker Mayfield or Jimmy Garoppolo. What

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Speaker 1: By the way, I'm in with you on skills. Well,

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Speaker 1: You know, I started started ripping and it's been a

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Speaker 1: I think you are an edibles guy. But are we

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Speaker 1: talking Indica or Sativa any preference. I'm probably more of

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Speaker 1: on your first question. I would say Jimmy garoppolo, but

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Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield went healthy is probably a slightly better player.

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Speaker 1: But clearly Jimmy's a way better guy. I just don't

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Speaker 1: know if it makes a difference, to be honestly, is

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Speaker 1: Matt Rule? Can you handle the big leagues? I know

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Speaker 1: the media loves him, excuse me, like people in football

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Speaker 1: even want to be there anymore? There are a lot

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Speaker 1: like how to invest, how to what to look for?

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Speaker 1: He just wrote a book. I think he's a younger guy,

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Speaker 1: which sounded like a pretty good book with just a

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Speaker 1: Like I'm gonna lose some money. Some of these companies

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Speaker 1: Appreciate you doing this. I guess someone a couple of

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Speaker 1: you guys forwarded this to me. I um, I just said,

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Speaker 1: questions for this week. I'm a huge Eagles fan and

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Speaker 1: think that Jeffrey Lewry is one of the best owners,

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Speaker 1: especially the NFL, but his often overlooked. He has insured

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Speaker 1: stability during tumultipleous times and maintains smooth transitions of power

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Speaker 1: Why do you think Jeffrey Learr isn't mentioned with the

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Speaker 1: think he should be in that top tier? Well, he's not.

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Speaker 1: He doesn't talk very often like Jerry or Robert Kraft,

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Speaker 1: How he's for a while now Doug pace for players

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Speaker 1: in a business like football where it's easy to have

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Speaker 1: educated guy in the salary cap space. I appreciate you,

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Speaker 1: I don't get I don't get too nerdy on that

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Speaker 1: by any means, because I'm not. I don't understand. I got.

849
00:45:32,160 --> 00:45:34,440
Speaker 1: I had an agent get mad at me the other day. Actually,

850
00:45:35,160 --> 00:45:38,480
Speaker 1: now you know, in fairness, I can't go into too

851
00:45:38,480 --> 00:45:40,759
Speaker 1: many details, but you know I probably crossed the line

852
00:45:41,000 --> 00:45:43,720
Speaker 1: even though I didn't say what he thought I said,

853
00:45:44,400 --> 00:45:47,640
Speaker 1: but he explained that my take on his players contract

854
00:45:47,960 --> 00:45:50,560
Speaker 1: was off, and you know he had he had valid points.

855
00:45:51,200 --> 00:45:52,920
Speaker 1: And this is you know, the hard part about my

856
00:45:53,040 --> 00:45:56,440
Speaker 1: job is I'm an opinion guy and I'm not always

857
00:45:56,440 --> 00:45:58,799
Speaker 1: gonna be right, and I'm definitely gonna piss some people off.

858
00:45:59,239 --> 00:46:02,719
Speaker 1: I've piste off former gm s before I piste off

859
00:46:02,719 --> 00:46:05,680
Speaker 1: this agent, which sometimes it's fair like it's just part

860
00:46:05,680 --> 00:46:07,919
Speaker 1: of my gig, you know, and I like this guy.

861
00:46:07,960 --> 00:46:12,680
Speaker 1: We've never had any issues, um, but it's just part

862
00:46:12,719 --> 00:46:16,640
Speaker 1: of the role I'm in. You know, what are you

863
00:46:16,640 --> 00:46:18,960
Speaker 1: gonna do? You can't be liked by everyone, even though

864
00:46:18,960 --> 00:46:20,680
Speaker 1: I left it on the good term. I I do

865
00:46:20,880 --> 00:46:23,480
Speaker 1: don't have an issue with this guy. One guy I

866
00:46:23,680 --> 00:46:26,640
Speaker 1: really piste off, but I felt validated everything I ever

867
00:46:26,640 --> 00:46:28,640
Speaker 1: said about him. His name was Ryan Grigson. He was

868
00:46:28,680 --> 00:46:31,160
Speaker 1: not happy with me. This agent. I'm not gonna out

869
00:46:31,160 --> 00:46:34,719
Speaker 1: his name, but um, you know, I'm not going to

870
00:46:34,800 --> 00:46:36,880
Speaker 1: be right on everything I say, and sometimes in the

871
00:46:36,920 --> 00:46:39,640
Speaker 1: heat of the moment, I say things that once you

872
00:46:39,640 --> 00:46:41,759
Speaker 1: get more information it makes sense. And I was like,

873
00:46:41,840 --> 00:46:43,560
Speaker 1: you know, it was probably a little harsh. That is that,

874
00:46:43,640 --> 00:46:45,960
Speaker 1: you know, I'm a shoot from the hip guy. It's

875
00:46:46,000 --> 00:46:48,920
Speaker 1: why for the most part, Like you know, I mean,

876
00:46:48,960 --> 00:46:51,000
Speaker 1: I have a lot of relationships in the league, but

877
00:46:52,080 --> 00:46:54,799
Speaker 1: I actually like not knowing everybody because then I can

878
00:46:54,800 --> 00:46:57,240
Speaker 1: just speak freely. Like what if I knew Brandon Staley?

879
00:46:57,280 --> 00:46:59,080
Speaker 1: What if I really liked them? But I wouldn't be

880
00:46:59,120 --> 00:47:01,399
Speaker 1: able to crush him. Cliff Kingsbury say it all the time.

881
00:47:01,400 --> 00:47:03,560
Speaker 1: I would probably like the guy, but fundamentally I just

882
00:47:03,640 --> 00:47:07,400
Speaker 1: don't see eyed with the way he coaches football. So

883
00:47:07,920 --> 00:47:09,839
Speaker 1: you know, it's none of this is personal. I tell

884
00:47:09,920 --> 00:47:12,040
Speaker 1: whenever people get mad at me, I'm like, this is

885
00:47:12,040 --> 00:47:15,279
Speaker 1: not personal. This is the business word. This is my role.

886
00:47:15,360 --> 00:47:18,000
Speaker 1: This is how I feed my family, giving my opinions

887
00:47:18,560 --> 00:47:21,600
Speaker 1: and the differences to like, there's nothing anonymous about what

888
00:47:21,680 --> 00:47:25,560
Speaker 1: I say here. Anything I say, it's my name's associated

889
00:47:25,600 --> 00:47:27,960
Speaker 1: with it. These are my words. This is like some

890
00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:32,399
Speaker 1: anonymous guys. No, it's John Mittlcoff said this where most

891
00:47:32,440 --> 00:47:36,640
Speaker 1: of these people, like coaches, GMS agents, they can put them.

892
00:47:36,760 --> 00:47:38,359
Speaker 1: They don't have to put their name on ship when

893
00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:41,760
Speaker 1: they leak stuff, right, I do everything I say names

894
00:47:41,800 --> 00:47:45,759
Speaker 1: on it. Question for the pod. Everyone is ripping the

895
00:47:45,760 --> 00:47:49,600
Speaker 1: Cowboys apart for the lackluster offseason they're having, but no

896
00:47:49,640 --> 00:47:52,440
Speaker 1: one seems to realize that we have hit big on

897
00:47:52,480 --> 00:47:55,640
Speaker 1: the past three drafts lamb Digs, Parsons and we will

898
00:47:55,719 --> 00:47:59,000
Speaker 1: have to resign resign them in the next couple of years.

899
00:47:59,360 --> 00:48:01,760
Speaker 1: Do you think this has any part in us dumping

900
00:48:01,760 --> 00:48:05,480
Speaker 1: Cooper's contract and not doing much in free agency this year? Also,

901
00:48:06,120 --> 00:48:09,040
Speaker 1: I would like to share my appreciation for you. You You

902
00:48:09,200 --> 00:48:15,239
Speaker 1: make my mornings with your podcasts speaks. Appreciate it from Jason. Yeah,

903
00:48:15,320 --> 00:48:17,359
Speaker 1: I think it's more. You know, you're paying a lot

904
00:48:17,440 --> 00:48:20,200
Speaker 1: of money to Dak Prescott and Zeke and even Tyron

905
00:48:20,440 --> 00:48:23,000
Speaker 1: Smith makes a lot of money, but Dak Prescott makes

906
00:48:23,000 --> 00:48:25,799
Speaker 1: a shipload of cash. So Zeke makes a ton for

907
00:48:25,920 --> 00:48:27,920
Speaker 1: running back. So I think it's part of it is

908
00:48:27,960 --> 00:48:30,520
Speaker 1: just you have some high DeMarcus Lawrence makes a lot

909
00:48:30,560 --> 00:48:34,600
Speaker 1: of cash, you have some high paid players, you know,

910
00:48:34,760 --> 00:48:36,600
Speaker 1: I mean, and then just if you just have random

911
00:48:36,600 --> 00:48:39,200
Speaker 1: starters making five eight million dollars, like it adds up.

912
00:48:40,280 --> 00:48:43,520
Speaker 1: You know, you realize the older you get, you're like, goddamn,

913
00:48:43,560 --> 00:48:45,520
Speaker 1: I made a lot of money this year. Let's say

914
00:48:45,520 --> 00:48:47,480
Speaker 1: you had a good year. And then you're like, why

915
00:48:47,480 --> 00:48:51,399
Speaker 1: don't I feel like I had that much money? You're like, well, inflation. Uh.

916
00:48:51,440 --> 00:48:53,920
Speaker 1: And then you also realize expenses. You know, I probably

917
00:48:53,960 --> 00:48:56,800
Speaker 1: went to door dash double the amount of times I

918
00:48:56,840 --> 00:48:59,439
Speaker 1: should have. You know, I probably shouldn't have. I didn't

919
00:48:59,480 --> 00:49:02,319
Speaker 1: need to buy all all whatever. Like it's it's easy

920
00:49:02,400 --> 00:49:05,080
Speaker 1: to kind of like money adds up. It's no different

921
00:49:05,160 --> 00:49:11,400
Speaker 1: in football and salary cap Okay got one for the

922
00:49:11,440 --> 00:49:14,600
Speaker 1: mail Bank. As a lifelong Lions fan, it's been rough

923
00:49:14,640 --> 00:49:16,520
Speaker 1: to be a Detroit fan for any sport in the

924
00:49:16,600 --> 00:49:19,200
Speaker 1: last ten years. Most of us around here want the

925
00:49:19,239 --> 00:49:23,799
Speaker 1: Fords to sell and bring an owner that cares with

926
00:49:23,960 --> 00:49:26,319
Speaker 1: that big said, what are your thoughts on the organization

927
00:49:26,400 --> 00:49:30,319
Speaker 1: or and owner from the Detroit Lions. Well, whenever I

928
00:49:30,360 --> 00:49:34,319
Speaker 1: see the video of her, she is sold. I think

929
00:49:34,360 --> 00:49:37,200
Speaker 1: the same thing with the Bears that it's just so old,

930
00:49:37,680 --> 00:49:40,680
Speaker 1: Like how is that lady going to compete against Cronkey?

931
00:49:41,200 --> 00:49:44,680
Speaker 1: How is that going to compete against you know, Jonathan

932
00:49:44,719 --> 00:49:48,760
Speaker 1: Craft or Steven Jones. Just very very difficult. Like ultimately,

933
00:49:48,840 --> 00:49:52,840
Speaker 1: Jerry and Robert Craft have their kids, who, let's face it,

934
00:49:52,840 --> 00:49:54,320
Speaker 1: are pretty smart and have been around it for a

935
00:49:54,360 --> 00:49:59,640
Speaker 1: while now, Like, how's this gonna happen? It's not and

936
00:49:59,680 --> 00:50:02,040
Speaker 1: it does so to me, it starts at the top.

937
00:50:02,760 --> 00:50:06,280
Speaker 1: The owners just kind of suck. Well, part of also

938
00:50:06,440 --> 00:50:08,799
Speaker 1: is you gotta get a little lucky. Right now you're

939
00:50:08,840 --> 00:50:12,000
Speaker 1: taking educated guesses. But when you hire coaches and gms,

940
00:50:12,520 --> 00:50:14,759
Speaker 1: if you get the right ones, if you nail a

941
00:50:14,800 --> 00:50:17,200
Speaker 1: Bill Parcels or a Pete Carroll or Andy Reid or

942
00:50:17,200 --> 00:50:21,399
Speaker 1: a Bill Belichick, your franchise is going to become a powerhouse.

943
00:50:21,920 --> 00:50:27,560
Speaker 1: If you miss Joe Judge, Pat Shermer, right, Mike mccagnan,

944
00:50:27,719 --> 00:50:31,879
Speaker 1: your team's gonna suck. And I think that's really been

945
00:50:31,920 --> 00:50:34,360
Speaker 1: the case, Like Ryan Pace and Naggie did okay job.

946
00:50:35,080 --> 00:50:37,439
Speaker 1: Ryan Pace was pretty terrible. Let's face it, Ryan Ryan

947
00:50:37,480 --> 00:50:40,400
Speaker 1: Pace was bad. I might be biased on this, but

948
00:50:40,480 --> 00:50:42,680
Speaker 1: I think Ryan Pace ultimately let down Naggy more than

949
00:50:42,760 --> 00:50:46,600
Speaker 1: Naggy let down Ryan Pace. But the same thing with

950
00:50:46,640 --> 00:50:48,719
Speaker 1: the Lions, Like, if Dan Campbell is a big time coach,

951
00:50:48,719 --> 00:50:51,680
Speaker 1: they'll be fine. If he's not, they're in major trouble.

952
00:50:52,440 --> 00:50:54,920
Speaker 1: Just that simple, they're in major trouble. I don't know,

953
00:50:55,040 --> 00:50:58,919
Speaker 1: I'm rooting for the guy with the bill signings this year?

954
00:50:59,040 --> 00:51:01,960
Speaker 1: Are they over extending themselves and possibly jeopardizing the future.

955
00:51:02,480 --> 00:51:05,319
Speaker 1: Von Miller can't possibly have six years left? Well, these

956
00:51:05,440 --> 00:51:09,480
Speaker 1: NFL contracts aren't real at a level that justifies the contract,

957
00:51:09,520 --> 00:51:12,520
Speaker 1: and paying digs may cost them. Jordan Poyer, I remember

958
00:51:12,520 --> 00:51:15,440
Speaker 1: the contracts paid to Marcel Darius, Mario Williams and just

959
00:51:15,520 --> 00:51:18,040
Speaker 1: wonder if them getting themselves in a corner your thoughts.

960
00:51:19,000 --> 00:51:21,640
Speaker 1: I think sometimes what happens is you get so close

961
00:51:21,680 --> 00:51:25,000
Speaker 1: to something right, You get so close, and in football

962
00:51:25,120 --> 00:51:28,279
Speaker 1: it's so black or white. You either win the championship

963
00:51:28,360 --> 00:51:29,879
Speaker 1: or get to the super Bowl or you don't write.

964
00:51:29,880 --> 00:51:32,279
Speaker 1: And most of our businesses is like you know, we

965
00:51:32,360 --> 00:51:35,839
Speaker 1: had a goal of five million revenue and we make four,

966
00:51:36,040 --> 00:51:39,040
Speaker 1: like you know, ultimately probably still be pretty happy or whatever.

967
00:51:39,160 --> 00:51:41,120
Speaker 1: You know they given money is and you if you

968
00:51:41,160 --> 00:51:43,520
Speaker 1: have a quotea every every quarter you need to hit

969
00:51:44,360 --> 00:51:47,600
Speaker 1: three sales and you know, you know your boss, as

970
00:51:47,640 --> 00:51:52,080
Speaker 1: long as you hit two, you're gonna be good. It's okay.

971
00:51:52,120 --> 00:51:55,400
Speaker 1: But you know, in football, it's very very like you

972
00:51:55,440 --> 00:51:58,239
Speaker 1: either get it done or you don't. It's it's really

973
00:51:58,280 --> 00:52:01,400
Speaker 1: what makes sports so different than any other business because

974
00:52:01,440 --> 00:52:04,680
Speaker 1: you're gonna make money regardless, but you're ultimately judged on

975
00:52:04,719 --> 00:52:07,760
Speaker 1: winning and losing. Most of us, like in our businesses,

976
00:52:07,840 --> 00:52:09,920
Speaker 1: we just want to make more money, right, we just

977
00:52:10,040 --> 00:52:13,000
Speaker 1: want to expand. But it's not like you guys won

978
00:52:13,040 --> 00:52:14,920
Speaker 1: that quarter? Are you guys lost? And it kind of

979
00:52:14,960 --> 00:52:16,759
Speaker 1: becomes that, I guess in the stock market when these

980
00:52:16,760 --> 00:52:21,239
Speaker 1: publicly traded companies like either outperformed or underperform, but those

981
00:52:21,280 --> 00:52:24,040
Speaker 1: are all a little bit kind of arbitrary. Like there's

982
00:52:24,040 --> 00:52:29,080
Speaker 1: no arbitrary outcome of the Bill's Chiefs playoff game. Right,

983
00:52:29,440 --> 00:52:31,080
Speaker 1: you either gonna win it or you lost, or you

984
00:52:31,160 --> 00:52:34,080
Speaker 1: lost it. And the Bills lost it. So to me,

985
00:52:34,160 --> 00:52:37,920
Speaker 1: they got so close against a powerhouse team that they

986
00:52:37,920 --> 00:52:40,560
Speaker 1: go and they've lost to him. Now two years in

987
00:52:40,560 --> 00:52:42,839
Speaker 1: a row, they go, how do we get over the hump?

988
00:52:43,360 --> 00:52:47,600
Speaker 1: And they're really just worried about two thousand. They're not

989
00:52:47,640 --> 00:52:50,399
Speaker 1: worried about three or four years from now because their

990
00:52:50,440 --> 00:52:53,759
Speaker 1: window and the windows in the NFL are small. We

991
00:52:53,840 --> 00:52:57,200
Speaker 1: thought the Harbor Niners and the Pete Carroll l obat Seattle,

992
00:52:57,239 --> 00:52:59,759
Speaker 1: we're gonna last a decade. They lasted to combine like

993
00:52:59,760 --> 00:53:04,960
Speaker 1: six years. So it can end very very quickly. So

994
00:53:05,080 --> 00:53:06,600
Speaker 1: I just think the Bills all their chips in the

995
00:53:06,600 --> 00:53:09,360
Speaker 1: middle of the table, and they're doing whatever it takes.

996
00:53:09,680 --> 00:53:11,640
Speaker 1: It's not a six year deal, but it is basically

997
00:53:11,680 --> 00:53:14,359
Speaker 1: a three year deal. Do I think they overpaid for him? Yeah,

998
00:53:14,360 --> 00:53:17,799
Speaker 1: I do, But I understand where they're coming from what

999
00:53:17,880 --> 00:53:21,920
Speaker 1: I've done it. No, but I do get it. I

1000
00:53:22,160 --> 00:53:24,440
Speaker 1: do get it. Digs. I have no problem with the

1001
00:53:24,480 --> 00:53:28,320
Speaker 1: Dick's contract, the von Miller contract. Who are you bidding

1002
00:53:28,360 --> 00:53:31,040
Speaker 1: against those numbers? You couldn't have got them for thirty

1003
00:53:31,040 --> 00:53:34,360
Speaker 1: five guaranteed. They gave him fifty one million dollars guaranteed.

1004
00:53:35,320 --> 00:53:39,239
Speaker 1: That to me is nuts. And I think von Miller

1005
00:53:39,280 --> 00:53:41,239
Speaker 1: is one of the greatest players of all time at

1006
00:53:41,280 --> 00:53:47,759
Speaker 1: its position, but that much money. Man. My question is

1007
00:53:48,400 --> 00:53:52,800
Speaker 1: is from Nick, do you think the fact the Packers

1008
00:53:52,800 --> 00:53:54,960
Speaker 1: don't have an owner or are in a small market

1009
00:53:55,560 --> 00:53:58,920
Speaker 1: hinders our ability to bring britt to bring in big

1010
00:53:58,960 --> 00:54:01,759
Speaker 1: free agents. I feel like we are destined to just

1011
00:54:01,840 --> 00:54:04,399
Speaker 1: draft and develop in Green Bay. We never make big

1012
00:54:04,440 --> 00:54:08,120
Speaker 1: splash in free agency. I think it definitely hurts now.

1013
00:54:08,280 --> 00:54:11,239
Speaker 1: When I talked about the Packers needing an owner, ultimately

1014
00:54:11,280 --> 00:54:13,640
Speaker 1: my point wasn't about them being able to track players

1015
00:54:13,719 --> 00:54:16,920
Speaker 1: or not. Was more from financials for the league. But

1016
00:54:17,400 --> 00:54:19,479
Speaker 1: if you were a Packer fan, wouldn't you rather have

1017
00:54:19,640 --> 00:54:22,400
Speaker 1: some sweet, rich owner owning your team? Now? Just because

1018
00:54:22,400 --> 00:54:24,400
Speaker 1: you have a rich owner David Tepper, doesn't mean your

1019
00:54:24,400 --> 00:54:27,400
Speaker 1: team is gonna be good, right, Steve Balmber bought the

1020
00:54:27,440 --> 00:54:30,560
Speaker 1: Clippers like they didn't even make the playoffs technically Now,

1021
00:54:31,000 --> 00:54:35,160
Speaker 1: Paul George somehow failed at COVID test and Kawai's hurt.

1022
00:54:35,280 --> 00:54:37,960
Speaker 1: But still, you know, Steve Balmers were the richest men

1023
00:54:37,960 --> 00:54:41,759
Speaker 1: in the world. Team can't win. But if I was

1024
00:54:41,800 --> 00:54:43,839
Speaker 1: a Packer fan, I'd rather have an owner than doing

1025
00:54:43,920 --> 00:54:48,000
Speaker 1: what we're doing. Thank you for entertaining as a Bears fan.

1026
00:54:48,040 --> 00:54:50,359
Speaker 1: I have plenty of opinions on what the team should do,

1027
00:54:50,520 --> 00:54:52,239
Speaker 1: but I would love to hear your breakdown of the

1028
00:54:52,280 --> 00:54:55,840
Speaker 1: current situation, cap space, and how to rebuild the right situation. Cheers,

1029
00:54:55,920 --> 00:54:58,840
Speaker 1: and if you ever need a bottle of Beam sentry product,

1030
00:54:59,120 --> 00:55:01,440
Speaker 1: I got you. I'm not even sure what that is,

1031
00:55:01,480 --> 00:55:05,080
Speaker 1: but it sounds good. Is that alcohol? I saw someone

1032
00:55:05,120 --> 00:55:09,520
Speaker 1: wrote an article how Justin Fields should ask for a trade. Obviously,

1033
00:55:09,520 --> 00:55:11,480
Speaker 1: the Bears aren't trading Justin Fields, and Justin Fields not

1034
00:55:11,520 --> 00:55:14,200
Speaker 1: gonna ask for a trade, but their team needs a

1035
00:55:14,239 --> 00:55:17,480
Speaker 1: complete an utter overall. They don't have a first round pick,

1036
00:55:17,800 --> 00:55:20,239
Speaker 1: so they're a little bit like the Texans were last year.

1037
00:55:20,880 --> 00:55:23,360
Speaker 1: A little different scenario because they have this young quarterback,

1038
00:55:23,880 --> 00:55:26,879
Speaker 1: but their online sucks. They don't have a first round pick,

1039
00:55:26,960 --> 00:55:30,320
Speaker 1: they didn't have that much cap space because Ryan Pace's

1040
00:55:30,360 --> 00:55:33,120
Speaker 1: previous money. They needed to take a step back before

1041
00:55:33,120 --> 00:55:36,200
Speaker 1: they can take two steps forward. I have no issue

1042
00:55:36,239 --> 00:55:38,600
Speaker 1: with what they did this offseason. My only issue was

1043
00:55:38,640 --> 00:55:42,800
Speaker 1: like they hired that coach Uberfluce. Uberfluce is gonna be

1044
00:55:42,840 --> 00:55:46,360
Speaker 1: a good NFL head coach. I don't know. Man and

1045
00:55:46,520 --> 00:55:50,399
Speaker 1: Ryan Poles, who I've heard great things about guarantee they're

1046
00:55:50,400 --> 00:55:53,600
Speaker 1: gonna run the division again, Like, bro, just what are

1047
00:55:53,600 --> 00:55:57,479
Speaker 1: we doing? But in terms of what they're doing from

1048
00:55:57,520 --> 00:56:01,600
Speaker 1: from a personnel standpoint, like, I don't you can't do

1049
00:56:01,760 --> 00:56:04,680
Speaker 1: much that they're in a tough position. I don't think

1050
00:56:04,680 --> 00:56:07,200
Speaker 1: you can really judge them this offseason a little bit

1051
00:56:07,200 --> 00:56:09,719
Speaker 1: like the Atlanta Falcons last offseason when those guys took

1052
00:56:09,760 --> 00:56:12,480
Speaker 1: over the team's kind of the team. And unlike Atlanta

1053
00:56:12,520 --> 00:56:14,520
Speaker 1: had the fourth overall pick, the Bears have no pick,

1054
00:56:15,560 --> 00:56:17,600
Speaker 1: you know, in the first round. So it's just it

1055
00:56:17,719 --> 00:56:20,680
Speaker 1: is what it is. Now. They flipped Khalil Mack to

1056
00:56:20,680 --> 00:56:22,640
Speaker 1: get a second round pick. That's a good move because

1057
00:56:22,640 --> 00:56:25,359
Speaker 1: because what's the point in keeping Kalil back that that

1058
00:56:25,560 --> 00:56:28,439
Speaker 1: was the right thing to do. Allen Robinson walk what

1059
00:56:28,480 --> 00:56:30,680
Speaker 1: Alan Robinson wasn't gonna resign with them, and they're not

1060
00:56:30,719 --> 00:56:33,919
Speaker 1: gonna franchise them. You probably just need to suck this year.

1061
00:56:34,600 --> 00:56:37,000
Speaker 1: I don't think it's crazy to just totally suck and

1062
00:56:37,000 --> 00:56:39,680
Speaker 1: bottom out, which sucks because you're in the second year

1063
00:56:39,719 --> 00:56:43,040
Speaker 1: of Justin Fields. But it's just kind of the situation

1064
00:56:43,080 --> 00:56:46,080
Speaker 1: they're in. It's gonna be a long couple of years

1065
00:56:46,080 --> 00:56:50,399
Speaker 1: for Bears. Fans, so buckle up because you're gonna lose

1066
00:56:50,400 --> 00:56:53,920
Speaker 1: some games, probably a lot of games, because the Packers

1067
00:56:53,920 --> 00:56:56,439
Speaker 1: are obviously better than you, the Vikings are obviously better

1068
00:56:56,480 --> 00:56:58,759
Speaker 1: than you, and who knows, the Lion's got a bunch

1069
00:56:58,760 --> 00:57:00,880
Speaker 1: of picks. They could be better than you past. So

1070
00:57:01,120 --> 00:57:03,759
Speaker 1: you might suck this year. Honestly, you might win three

1071
00:57:03,840 --> 00:57:05,919
Speaker 1: or four games. If I had to say how many

1072
00:57:05,920 --> 00:57:08,600
Speaker 1: games the Bears win, I'd probably pick four. I'd say

1073
00:57:08,640 --> 00:57:11,840
Speaker 1: they go four and feels about right and they end

1074
00:57:11,920 --> 00:57:15,240
Speaker 1: up with the top five. Pick. Have a great weekend.

1075
00:57:15,520 --> 00:57:18,960
Speaker 1: Excuse me, it's Monday. I'm off, not a weekend. Have

1076
00:57:19,040 --> 00:57:22,400
Speaker 1: a great week and I'll see Wednesday for the golf

1077
00:57:22,400 --> 00:57:24,280
Speaker 1: podcast if you're into that thing, and if you're not,

1078
00:57:24,800 --> 00:57:28,280
Speaker 1: see you for football talking Friday. Slide up into those

1079
00:57:28,320 --> 00:57:30,200
Speaker 1: d ms at John Mittlcoff could use a few more

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00:57:30,280 --> 00:57:33,280
Speaker 1: d M s uh to answer on next weekend's show

1081
00:57:33,480 --> 00:57:36,400
Speaker 1: or I guess this upcoming weekend show and talk to

1082
00:57:36,400 --> 00:58:00,480
Speaker 1: everyone the volume