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Speaker 1: This is Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous in Depth.

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Speaker 1: Ashley and I are back this time with a guest

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Speaker 1: that I know you all are going to be excited about.

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Speaker 1: Bachelor Nation has wanted to hear from our next guest

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Speaker 1: for a long time. This is another in depth episode

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Speaker 1: of the Almost Famous podcast. Ashley, without giving out a name,

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Speaker 1: how pumped are you for today's sit down? When I

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Speaker 1: came when I usually come up with questions, in the

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Speaker 1: amount of questions never flows the way it did for

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Speaker 1: me today, Like I just had question after question after

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Speaker 1: questions question. So this person is definitely an interesting person. Uh,

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Speaker 1: this is gonna be a great sit down. I'm pumped.

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Speaker 1: Without delaying it any further, She's known from Colton Underwood

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Speaker 1: season of The Bachelor. She later went onto Bachelor in Paradise,

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Speaker 1: where she was pursued by Derek Paith, but ended up

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Speaker 1: getting engaged to Christian Haggardy At the end. Christian and

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Speaker 1: our next guest announced on Instagram Live that they were

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Speaker 1: splitting up on October one of two thousand nineteen. She

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Speaker 1: is so much more than a Bachelor Nation contestant. Her

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Speaker 1: life is something that we all are going to learn

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Speaker 1: from the day welcome the podcast, Demi Burnett. Hello, thank

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Speaker 1: you for having me. Hello. Hello, we are so excited

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Speaker 1: to have you. I was on your podcast last week

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Speaker 1: which just started. It's called Big Demi Energy. Yes, because

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Speaker 1: you want us to tell you want to tell us

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Speaker 1: what that's all about. What are you guys going to

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Speaker 1: be covering over there? Yeah? Big Demi Energy is just

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Speaker 1: about like, you know, shooting the having fun, having fun guests,

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Speaker 1: being confident. You know, it's like the beginning of it.

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Speaker 1: So I'm still talking about a lot of ideas that

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Speaker 1: we can do. Uh, it's pretty intimidating, but I'm like

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Speaker 1: Like the more that it keeps going with time and

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Speaker 1: stuff awes. Um all right, well, we are going to

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Speaker 1: get everyone to get to know you so well today

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Speaker 1: that they're going to want more and more of you,

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Speaker 1: and they'll have to go to your podcast to get that.

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Speaker 1: So let's start from the very beginning of your life, Demi. Gosh,

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Speaker 1: So my childhood was interesting. I don't think I've ever

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Speaker 1: She like always was I don't know. We were in

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Speaker 1: dad always took care of us. He was an amazing father.

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Speaker 1: know somewhere out there. We would see her like on

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Speaker 1: us in the next phases. If there's three things that

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Speaker 1: naked women, and I was interested in it and I

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00:22:17,480 --> 00:22:21,440
Speaker 1: liked I liked it. And uh that's was probably like

430
00:22:21,880 --> 00:22:25,919
Speaker 1: fifth grade maybe started that, and but not much and

431
00:22:25,960 --> 00:22:28,439
Speaker 1: then uh, it all started with because one time I

432
00:22:28,440 --> 00:22:30,560
Speaker 1: went to demi dot com, like just went to it

433
00:22:30,600 --> 00:22:32,280
Speaker 1: and it was like a porn site and I didn't

434
00:22:32,320 --> 00:22:35,399
Speaker 1: know obviously, and it gave me so many viruses. But

435
00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:37,480
Speaker 1: I was just like, oh, I wouldn't go to my name.

436
00:22:37,680 --> 00:22:39,480
Speaker 1: And then I was like, hum, that was interesting. I

437
00:22:39,480 --> 00:22:43,560
Speaker 1: didn't mind that. Um. And so then in seventh grade

438
00:22:43,560 --> 00:22:46,160
Speaker 1: there was like a rumor that went around that because

439
00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:50,040
Speaker 1: it bullies that I liked girls, and everyone was like

440
00:22:50,119 --> 00:22:52,480
Speaker 1: making fun of me, and like what is it called?

441
00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:55,720
Speaker 1: Is it called? It is ostracizing the right word whenever

442
00:22:55,760 --> 00:22:59,560
Speaker 1: you sure, yeah, it works okay, um, and like you know,

443
00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:02,119
Speaker 1: it was just torture, and so I was like, no,

444
00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:04,480
Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't like whatever. And then that

445
00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:06,960
Speaker 1: kind of just like I don't even know who started that,

446
00:23:07,040 --> 00:23:09,080
Speaker 1: so weird. But then that just kind of like went away,

447
00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:11,640
Speaker 1: and I was like, okay, if you like, nobody nobody

448
00:23:11,680 --> 00:23:13,919
Speaker 1: knows about that, Like it kind of just everyone forgot

449
00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:17,159
Speaker 1: about it. Um. And then I just kind of like

450
00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:19,440
Speaker 1: I thought about it a lot, but I always thought

451
00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:22,000
Speaker 1: it was wrong because that's just you know, it's a

452
00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:25,280
Speaker 1: different day and age now. Back then it was less okay,

453
00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:28,600
Speaker 1: especially like me, little church girl, like that wouldn't have

454
00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:31,720
Speaker 1: been chill at the church. Now, I'm sure probably is fine,

455
00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:34,439
Speaker 1: but I was scared, you know, I didn't want to

456
00:23:34,760 --> 00:23:38,280
Speaker 1: even entertain the thought, so watched a bunch of girl

457
00:23:38,320 --> 00:23:41,040
Speaker 1: on girl porn through high school and stuff, and then

458
00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:45,040
Speaker 1: made my first like move or like acted on it

459
00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:48,280
Speaker 1: my freshman year of college. And it was funny because

460
00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:50,520
Speaker 1: it was with a girl. We were in college, but

461
00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:52,960
Speaker 1: like we went to school together one year and whenever

462
00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:55,280
Speaker 1: we were like in sixth grade or something, and I

463
00:23:55,320 --> 00:24:00,800
Speaker 1: was like, hey, funny seeing you here. What was it

464
00:24:00,840 --> 00:24:03,399
Speaker 1: like when when you first realized it? So, you know,

465
00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:07,000
Speaker 1: you watched uh you know, the videos and you want

466
00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:08,800
Speaker 1: look the pictures and it was intriguing you. But when

467
00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:10,920
Speaker 1: did you realize, like when did it hit you? Oh,

468
00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:15,000
Speaker 1: I'm actually into women as well? Um. I think it

469
00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:17,679
Speaker 1: was like the first, like the very first time I

470
00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:19,720
Speaker 1: like kissed a girl and not like drunk kissed a

471
00:24:19,760 --> 00:24:22,280
Speaker 1: girl at a party, but like intimately kissed a girl.

472
00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:26,000
Speaker 1: It's like, I don't know, it was crazy, like fireworks

473
00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:28,080
Speaker 1: in my stomach. I was like, oh my gosh, I

474
00:24:28,119 --> 00:24:33,040
Speaker 1: loved that. So is that your freshman year? Yeah? Okay,

475
00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:38,440
Speaker 1: what was your first kiss with the boy? Uh? Seventh grade?

476
00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:45,520
Speaker 1: Did you have fireworks there? No? Well no I did. Uh.

477
00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:47,919
Speaker 1: It was just I think about like the first, you know,

478
00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:49,320
Speaker 1: the first time you ever make out. You're like, I've

479
00:24:49,359 --> 00:24:50,960
Speaker 1: never made out with anyone, Like I don't know what

480
00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:52,919
Speaker 1: to do, and I like made out this kid and

481
00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:55,480
Speaker 1: it was just a terrible makeout and so it was

482
00:24:55,520 --> 00:25:00,439
Speaker 1: just awkward. But like I think that I honestly like

483
00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:02,560
Speaker 1: my first kiss with the boils like three the first time.

484
00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:06,439
Speaker 1: I like a little three year old boyfriend. I like

485
00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:09,080
Speaker 1: to call my kindergarten kiss my first kiss too, instead

486
00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:13,919
Speaker 1: of the nineteen year old kiss. Um, you call yourself

487
00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:17,680
Speaker 1: the queer queen. You know you're you're a queer queen

488
00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:20,240
Speaker 1: in paradise. Can you tell our audience with the difference

489
00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:24,399
Speaker 1: between buy fluid and queer as So I call myself

490
00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:26,720
Speaker 1: a queer queen. And what I mean by like queer

491
00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:29,119
Speaker 1: is that like I know that I'm different, I know

492
00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:35,080
Speaker 1: that I'm not the norm. And then sexual fluidity is

493
00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:39,240
Speaker 1: like you're flowing either way. You know you are gonna

494
00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:42,920
Speaker 1: change your mind, however you're feeling like whatever your desires are,

495
00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:47,480
Speaker 1: your sexuality flows with that. It's never like constant or

496
00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:52,119
Speaker 1: like consistent, like flowing around. And then like gender fluidity

497
00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:55,040
Speaker 1: is the same concept, except you're just fluid and flowing

498
00:25:55,080 --> 00:26:01,359
Speaker 1: with like whatever gender you're feeling like whatever you're identifying as,

499
00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:03,639
Speaker 1: like you know, that day or that whatever. It's just

500
00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:07,960
Speaker 1: flowing back and forth and maybe flowing forth for a

501
00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:12,960
Speaker 1: while and back a little in whatever, just fluid um.

502
00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:16,560
Speaker 1: And then bisexual is being attracted to both men and women?

503
00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:22,480
Speaker 1: Do you think that was? And you identify as? You know,

504
00:26:23,119 --> 00:26:26,480
Speaker 1: I don't. I guess, like this is so hard for

505
00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:29,639
Speaker 1: me because like I don't really know what to identify as.

506
00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:31,800
Speaker 1: I guess you could say bisexual, But that doesn't mean

507
00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:34,159
Speaker 1: that I wouldn't date a trans person, because I would,

508
00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:37,440
Speaker 1: you know, like or someone who doesn't want to identify

509
00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:39,200
Speaker 1: as any gender. Like I would be open to dating

510
00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:42,360
Speaker 1: anybody if I had a connection with them. So that's

511
00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:44,040
Speaker 1: why I just kind of say queer because I'm like

512
00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:48,359
Speaker 1: just not the norm, like whatever. Okay, So you being

513
00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:51,960
Speaker 1: queer never came up on Colton season? Why was that?

514
00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:55,760
Speaker 1: I was embarrassed and ashamed and I didn't want to

515
00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:59,200
Speaker 1: like weird the girls out or something, you know. Uh,

516
00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:04,880
Speaker 1: I just wasn't ready to come out. Honestly, did did

517
00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:09,920
Speaker 1: anybody know, like any of the producers in any anybody? Yeah,

518
00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:12,879
Speaker 1: some of the producers knew, Um, like towards the end

519
00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:15,800
Speaker 1: of it, and then like my closest friends knew, Like

520
00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:19,760
Speaker 1: I'm sure, I'm sure I told Hannah at some point, Um,

521
00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:22,760
Speaker 1: but I probably, like you know, just kind of try

522
00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:25,440
Speaker 1: to do it casually, like, oh, yeah, I've dated women before.

523
00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:33,520
Speaker 1: She's like what damny, Uh, your mom got out of

524
00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:36,119
Speaker 1: prison for the second time while you're filming The Bachelor

525
00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:38,480
Speaker 1: and you were all the way in Asia. How did

526
00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:41,520
Speaker 1: it feel not being able to Would you normally have

527
00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:43,600
Speaker 1: seen her when she got out of prison? Now that

528
00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:45,000
Speaker 1: we see that this is like a thing that she's

529
00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:46,720
Speaker 1: done a couple of times, Like would you normally go

530
00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:48,960
Speaker 1: and see her right away? Or was the phone call

531
00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:54,320
Speaker 1: kind of like pretty much what you would do? Um?

532
00:27:54,359 --> 00:27:56,640
Speaker 1: As the like years go on and I get older

533
00:27:56,680 --> 00:27:58,879
Speaker 1: and older, I definitely have seen her less and less

534
00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:01,879
Speaker 1: if like the right thing to do would have been

535
00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:04,960
Speaker 1: to go and see her, you know, Um, it just

536
00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:08,480
Speaker 1: wasn't convenient for me, And I just was like a

537
00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:10,760
Speaker 1: little bit selfish about it at this point, just because

538
00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:14,520
Speaker 1: it's like it hurts, Like there's so many emotions, like

539
00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:19,320
Speaker 1: seeing her every time, it's like just so emotional, and

540
00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:24,040
Speaker 1: it's just really hard. It's really draining, and so I

541
00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:26,560
Speaker 1: was in such like a fun place, you know, like

542
00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:30,840
Speaker 1: I was coming off the Bachelor, like you know, my

543
00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:34,080
Speaker 1: life is completely changing, like the show is about to air,

544
00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:40,120
Speaker 1: and I didn't want to feel those negative feelings, Like

545
00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:43,480
Speaker 1: I just wanted to like live in what my life

546
00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:45,920
Speaker 1: it was then like and what i'd like you know,

547
00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:49,200
Speaker 1: done for myself and like and just kind of like

548
00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:54,600
Speaker 1: relish in the joy and like the excitement and not

549
00:28:54,720 --> 00:29:00,240
Speaker 1: like be bummed out by this emotional trauma. And uh,

550
00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:02,680
Speaker 1: I guess kind of just like avoiding it though, is

551
00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:05,800
Speaker 1: really not the right thing to do, and it would

552
00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:08,600
Speaker 1: have taken a lot less out of me, out of

553
00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:13,680
Speaker 1: my life and like myself than like it. How do

554
00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:15,440
Speaker 1: I say that? Right? Like it would have cost me

555
00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:18,680
Speaker 1: less then like the amount I would be giving her,

556
00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:20,520
Speaker 1: Like I would be giving her such an amazing thing.

557
00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:22,080
Speaker 1: She would have loved to have seen me, That's all

558
00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:25,200
Speaker 1: she wanted. She wants to see me, and it I

559
00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:27,760
Speaker 1: should have done the right thing and like immediately gone.

560
00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:31,360
Speaker 1: I just chose to be selfish in that moment, and

561
00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:37,280
Speaker 1: I feel guilty about it, um, but I mean I

562
00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:38,920
Speaker 1: don't know. I try to do what I can. I

563
00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:42,080
Speaker 1: like have a little video calls with her now my brother,

564
00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:44,720
Speaker 1: I don't think it's talking to her at all, which

565
00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:47,440
Speaker 1: makes me sad because I know she's sad. It's just

566
00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:49,720
Speaker 1: like a lot of emotions to take in. There's and

567
00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:52,920
Speaker 1: I feel them so strongly, Like I I feel for

568
00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:56,000
Speaker 1: her because she's she knows that she's like sucking up,

569
00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:59,040
Speaker 1: and she knows that she's not doing what she's supposed

570
00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:01,520
Speaker 1: to be doing. She knows that she wasn't there for us,

571
00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:05,440
Speaker 1: you know, growing up, and she's done a lot of

572
00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:08,240
Speaker 1: people wrong, and I know she has like so much

573
00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:09,880
Speaker 1: guilt for that, and like probably a lot of like

574
00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:16,040
Speaker 1: self hatred and stuff and depression. And it's just like

575
00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:18,840
Speaker 1: taking on all those emotions and like thinking about it

576
00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:22,320
Speaker 1: even it's it like makes me want to cry, it

577
00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:29,200
Speaker 1: makes me hurt. It's just it's a lot. Do you

578
00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:33,360
Speaker 1: take on those emotions personally? Yeah, But that's kind of

579
00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:35,400
Speaker 1: why I like avoid thinking about it a lot or

580
00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:39,240
Speaker 1: like talking about it a lot. Like it's because it

581
00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:41,240
Speaker 1: it does weigh on me like so much, Like I

582
00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:42,960
Speaker 1: take them in so much, and I get so worried

583
00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:45,160
Speaker 1: about her, and I feel for her, and like, you know,

584
00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:49,720
Speaker 1: I just like I don't know what to do to help,

585
00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:56,160
Speaker 1: and I you know, I could be angry and I

586
00:30:56,200 --> 00:30:59,840
Speaker 1: could like, you know, blame her and all this stuff,

587
00:30:59,840 --> 00:31:02,960
Speaker 1: but it everybody in her life is angry with her

588
00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:06,360
Speaker 1: always and hurt by her and disappointed, and like she

589
00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:08,600
Speaker 1: just I think what she needs for me is just

590
00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:10,680
Speaker 1: like I'm never going to be mad at you. I

591
00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:12,920
Speaker 1: love you, and all I'm gonna like give you his

592
00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:23,560
Speaker 1: love and forgiveness. M Well, speaking of forgiveness, Um, Demi,

593
00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:26,680
Speaker 1: I would love to talk to you just a few minutes,

594
00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:28,640
Speaker 1: if you're okay with it, about your faith and what

595
00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:30,160
Speaker 1: role that plays in your life. Now. I think it's

596
00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:33,640
Speaker 1: super would be super interesting for me and the listeners.

597
00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:35,960
Speaker 1: Are you good with that? Okay? Perfect? Well, hey, let's

598
00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:37,440
Speaker 1: take a break. When we come back, let's talk to

599
00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:42,480
Speaker 1: Demmy about her faith, growing up in a conservative household

600
00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:47,640
Speaker 1: and where that stands today. We'll be back with Demmy

601
00:31:47,680 --> 00:32:01,200
Speaker 1: Burnett on the Almost Famous in depth. We're back with

602
00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:05,280
Speaker 1: Demi Burnette. Demi, you had mentioned at the very beginning

603
00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:08,640
Speaker 1: how much of a rural faith and a church community

604
00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:13,120
Speaker 1: played in your life, and uh, I can relate with that, right,

605
00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:16,720
Speaker 1: that is something that I hold very dear to my heart.

606
00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:19,440
Speaker 1: People of the podcast definitely know that they're sick of

607
00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:20,920
Speaker 1: me talking about it. So I'm not going to get

608
00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:23,320
Speaker 1: into my own personal beliefs, but I do want to

609
00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:27,320
Speaker 1: hear from you on what role now church plays in

610
00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:29,280
Speaker 1: your life, knowing that for so much of it it

611
00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:31,239
Speaker 1: was it was a three day a week thing. As

612
00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:36,720
Speaker 1: you said, Um, yeah, so I haven't even been to

613
00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:41,840
Speaker 1: church since I graduated high school. I don't think, Um,

614
00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:45,640
Speaker 1: and it wasn't. It's like it's because I just like

615
00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:49,000
Speaker 1: don't know, and I have this thing where I am

616
00:32:49,040 --> 00:32:52,520
Speaker 1: like if so I grew up in a Baptist church,

617
00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:56,960
Speaker 1: it was they were wonderful people. I had great memories

618
00:32:57,040 --> 00:32:59,200
Speaker 1: church camp, you know all that stuff, a lot of

619
00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:05,520
Speaker 1: great friends from there. And I I didn't like going

620
00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:07,120
Speaker 1: just because it was like, Okay, we always have to

621
00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:08,720
Speaker 1: go to church and you gotta be quiet there and

622
00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:10,520
Speaker 1: it's like boring as a kid and whatever. But there

623
00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:12,840
Speaker 1: was a lot of times where I really really was

624
00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:14,840
Speaker 1: into it and I like loved going and I like

625
00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:17,200
Speaker 1: loved like worshiping and like all of this stuff. I

626
00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:20,920
Speaker 1: loved it. Um, it would be like a post summer

627
00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:22,520
Speaker 1: camp high because like we would go to a church

628
00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:24,680
Speaker 1: camp and it was it was so fun. It was

629
00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:26,880
Speaker 1: amazing and like a bunch of and they made it

630
00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:29,040
Speaker 1: so fun at church camp, and so you know, you

631
00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:31,200
Speaker 1: would come back and everyone was like, yeah, we're like

632
00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:35,640
Speaker 1: super into this now, and like, uh, I got a

633
00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:37,720
Speaker 1: lot of really great friendships from it and a lot

634
00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:41,640
Speaker 1: of you know, good life lessons and stuff. What I

635
00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:44,440
Speaker 1: have a like what I struggle with getting on board

636
00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:48,600
Speaker 1: with with church, like with picking a religion or picking

637
00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:53,840
Speaker 1: a faith is because if there you know, because who

638
00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:56,400
Speaker 1: am I to say this is what's actually the truth,

639
00:33:56,520 --> 00:33:59,280
Speaker 1: this is what is right? Because there's millions of people

640
00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:02,440
Speaker 1: that are believe a thousand million percent that their faith

641
00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:04,920
Speaker 1: is right. So like how do I how can I

642
00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:07,200
Speaker 1: be like no, minds right, you know, like no, this

643
00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:09,359
Speaker 1: is what happened. But at the end of the day, too,

644
00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:11,880
Speaker 1: I want to find some kind of faith because I

645
00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:16,560
Speaker 1: know that, you know, it's not necessarily about like maybe

646
00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:19,480
Speaker 1: like a logically making sense out of all of it

647
00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:22,120
Speaker 1: and like trying to like scientifically prove how this could

648
00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:24,960
Speaker 1: be real. I think it's more like a good feeling

649
00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:27,560
Speaker 1: and like, you know, a good way to like direct

650
00:34:27,640 --> 00:34:30,239
Speaker 1: your life and like keep you on track and you

651
00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:36,000
Speaker 1: know and like hold you to a standard and it

652
00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:40,680
Speaker 1: feels good to like believe in something. I mean, would

653
00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:43,920
Speaker 1: you say then, because as a Baptist, if anybody's listening

654
00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:45,840
Speaker 1: and they don't know exactly what that means, it's it

655
00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:49,480
Speaker 1: is more conservative, super conservative, more fundamental in nature, so

656
00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:53,200
Speaker 1: they would not be uh the church it is uh

657
00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:57,440
Speaker 1: liberal and thought thought at all. Baptists would stay more conservative.

658
00:34:57,440 --> 00:34:59,600
Speaker 1: And I don't say liberal and conservative politically, like this

659
00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:03,440
Speaker 1: is more in terms of like socially, um, but they

660
00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:05,960
Speaker 1: do believe in Jesus, so Jesus is at the core

661
00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:10,319
Speaker 1: of uh it's a Christian church. So, uh do you

662
00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:13,120
Speaker 1: miss Jesus? Like what world does Jesus then play in

663
00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:18,680
Speaker 1: your life today? Um? I think like, yeah, I missed Jesus,

664
00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:22,919
Speaker 1: like I missed that relationship and like that feeling like

665
00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:26,520
Speaker 1: you know that there's something out there that like has

666
00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:28,520
Speaker 1: your back and wants the best for you, like no

667
00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:32,359
Speaker 1: matter what, and like unconditionally loves you. Um. I think

668
00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:37,879
Speaker 1: it's really it's sweet and it's comforting. Um. I guess

669
00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:39,920
Speaker 1: I just kind of avoid thinking about it at all

670
00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:43,320
Speaker 1: because I feel guilty because it's like, you know, raised

671
00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:46,920
Speaker 1: my whole life fully believing in this, like full fledged

672
00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:52,040
Speaker 1: no doubts, and then doubting as an adult and like

673
00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:56,520
Speaker 1: just avoiding it. Uh. I don't know. It's scary because

674
00:35:56,520 --> 00:35:58,520
Speaker 1: it's a part of me is like maybe there's nothing

675
00:35:58,520 --> 00:36:00,720
Speaker 1: out there. Then there's part of me that's like maybe

676
00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:04,000
Speaker 1: there is, and you're betraying them right now and you're

677
00:36:04,040 --> 00:36:08,000
Speaker 1: going to burn in hell. It's like it's so I'm

678
00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:09,560
Speaker 1: just like, Okay, I'm not going to think about that,

679
00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:11,959
Speaker 1: I guess, and I'll just figure it out along the way,

680
00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:15,439
Speaker 1: and you know, maybe one day, like not I don't

681
00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:17,120
Speaker 1: want anything like bad to happen to me, but like,

682
00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:19,319
Speaker 1: you know, maybe I'll just like find faith one day,

683
00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:22,520
Speaker 1: or like you know, find so you know, I go

684
00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:25,560
Speaker 1: go to church with somebody or like learn about another

685
00:36:25,560 --> 00:36:28,200
Speaker 1: religion and like I feel really drawn to that, and

686
00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:31,080
Speaker 1: you know, maybe I'm like, oh aha, this is it.

687
00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:33,600
Speaker 1: This is what I want to put like all of

688
00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:37,439
Speaker 1: my energy into and like fully believe this or maybe not,

689
00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:40,440
Speaker 1: Like I don't know, Um, I really would like to

690
00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:45,680
Speaker 1: like have a faith and believe in something whole wholeheartedly.

691
00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:52,200
Speaker 1: I'm just your stories your story is not like abnormal, right,

692
00:36:52,239 --> 00:36:53,960
Speaker 1: I mean I'm sure there's people out there listening right now,

693
00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:56,360
Speaker 1: going yeah, like shaking their heads like this is demmis

694
00:36:56,400 --> 00:37:00,120
Speaker 1: speaking my life into me right now. So I just

695
00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:03,879
Speaker 1: appreciate you sharing it. Um. It's interesting to me just

696
00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:07,759
Speaker 1: to you know, to hear kind of how past go

697
00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:11,839
Speaker 1: different directions, both good in their own ways. But thanks

698
00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:13,560
Speaker 1: for sharing. I know it's not always easy to talk about,

699
00:37:13,640 --> 00:37:17,080
Speaker 1: and I'm sure there is some like you know, thoughts

700
00:37:17,080 --> 00:37:20,600
Speaker 1: that come into your head as you're even speaking about it, um,

701
00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:22,879
Speaker 1: that do make you feel guilty. But I don't ask

702
00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:24,839
Speaker 1: you that to make you feel gilty. I'm just in yeah,

703
00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:27,879
Speaker 1: no worries. I like that you're pushing me a little

704
00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:31,880
Speaker 1: out of my comfort zone. I like it speaking of

705
00:37:32,040 --> 00:37:34,239
Speaker 1: being out of your comfort zone. Colton says in his

706
00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:37,759
Speaker 1: book that you took him out of his comfort zone

707
00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:41,680
Speaker 1: and that you, especially that first week or two, was

708
00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:45,919
Speaker 1: someone that he couldn't really picture developing a romantic relationship with.

709
00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:50,160
Speaker 1: How do you feel looking back on your relationship with Colton? Um?

710
00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:53,240
Speaker 1: I think it's funny. I think it's really funny. Um.

711
00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:56,480
Speaker 1: I really liked pushing him out of his comfort zone because,

712
00:37:56,520 --> 00:38:00,279
Speaker 1: like you know, he's so sweet and gentle and I

713
00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:02,279
Speaker 1: don't know. I was just having fun with it, Like

714
00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:05,319
Speaker 1: I loved making him squirm and be like what are

715
00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:07,080
Speaker 1: you doing next? Like what is dem we going to

716
00:38:07,080 --> 00:38:12,520
Speaker 1: torture me with tonight? Um? I was really just having

717
00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:15,439
Speaker 1: a lot of fun with it, and um it did

718
00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:20,359
Speaker 1: like take a serious turn for me. Uh and that

719
00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:23,440
Speaker 1: was uncomfortable. But I think it's because you're in that

720
00:38:23,640 --> 00:38:26,440
Speaker 1: environment and like all you're doing is thinking about Colton

721
00:38:26,560 --> 00:38:30,600
Speaker 1: Underwood for seven and you've got people telling you like

722
00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:32,919
Speaker 1: you have to like, you know, you need to show

723
00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:35,160
Speaker 1: him that you're serious and like all this stuff, like

724
00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:38,359
Speaker 1: you need to, you know, make sure he knows how

725
00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:40,960
Speaker 1: you feel. And like, I don't know, it's just a

726
00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:43,480
Speaker 1: lot of like in your head and you're just like, gosh,

727
00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:46,080
Speaker 1: maybe you're right. Maybe I maybe I do really like

728
00:38:46,160 --> 00:38:48,239
Speaker 1: this guy. Maybe I am falling in love with this guy.

729
00:38:48,680 --> 00:38:51,560
Speaker 1: And then you get home and you're like, yeah, I'm

730
00:38:51,560 --> 00:38:54,080
Speaker 1: not sad at all about him. I miss my friends.

731
00:38:56,160 --> 00:38:58,839
Speaker 1: That's how I feel like anyone who's not top four

732
00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:02,000
Speaker 1: goes back. I'm feeling when you say that it took

733
00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:05,600
Speaker 1: a turn. Was that when you had the first phone

734
00:39:05,600 --> 00:39:09,080
Speaker 1: cam with your mom with Colton on the phone with you. Yeah,

735
00:39:09,560 --> 00:39:14,600
Speaker 1: it's definitely around then. Um, everything was getting emotional to like,

736
00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:17,719
Speaker 1: and then you kind of start getting like insecure because

737
00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:20,840
Speaker 1: you're like, wow, girls are dwindling down. I've been really

738
00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:25,040
Speaker 1: confident every week that i'd still be here, and I'm

739
00:39:25,160 --> 00:39:28,560
Speaker 1: kind of starting to second guess it because I don't know,

740
00:39:28,640 --> 00:39:34,080
Speaker 1: I don't feel like we're having these really deep, meaningful conversations. Um,

741
00:39:34,160 --> 00:39:36,880
Speaker 1: and so then you know, those insecurities for me just

742
00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:39,320
Speaker 1: kind of make me emotional, and then I start feeling

743
00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:43,480
Speaker 1: vulnerable and then I start freaking out and yeah, then

744
00:39:43,520 --> 00:39:48,239
Speaker 1: my whole personality disappears, and I'm just a wreck. You

745
00:39:48,320 --> 00:39:50,319
Speaker 1: were you basically told you can't talk to your mom

746
00:39:50,360 --> 00:39:56,400
Speaker 1: unless Colton to the phone with you. Um, no, well

747
00:39:56,440 --> 00:39:59,319
Speaker 1: maybe we're gonna maybe maybe I was. I can't really

748
00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:02,919
Speaker 1: remember because was just sad. I was like crying because

749
00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:06,440
Speaker 1: they told me that they got ahold of her and

750
00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:07,840
Speaker 1: so I was just like crying and I was just

751
00:40:07,880 --> 00:40:09,960
Speaker 1: really excited. So I don't really remember how the conversation

752
00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:13,520
Speaker 1: went down, and I probably was a little tips a

753
00:40:13,560 --> 00:40:18,760
Speaker 1: little tipsy. So you leave Colton, he dumps you after

754
00:40:19,320 --> 00:40:22,960
Speaker 1: you say I love you. I want not affect you?

755
00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:26,239
Speaker 1: Did that affect you more than just a couple of days. Yeah,

756
00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:29,040
Speaker 1: I was shot to the ego and then the whole

757
00:40:29,040 --> 00:40:31,640
Speaker 1: world how to watch me get rejected? It was terrible,

758
00:40:32,520 --> 00:40:35,640
Speaker 1: but it it definitely just made me feel rejected ultimately,

759
00:40:35,680 --> 00:40:38,840
Speaker 1: and like the embarrassment of being dumped does not outweigh

760
00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:41,880
Speaker 1: like the like hurt in my heart of like wow,

761
00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:46,600
Speaker 1: somebody doesn't want me, like you know, And and at

762
00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:49,080
Speaker 1: that point in my life, like I had been in

763
00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:52,319
Speaker 1: a lot of like short lived like flings and relationships

764
00:40:52,320 --> 00:40:55,160
Speaker 1: and things and like where guys ended up not wanting me,

765
00:40:55,480 --> 00:41:01,240
Speaker 1: and it just doesn't feel good at all. And it um,

766
00:41:01,480 --> 00:41:04,840
Speaker 1: it's embarrassing to watch, but it's it's also like still

767
00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:07,719
Speaker 1: to this day, whenever I watch it, I feel emotional,

768
00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:11,719
Speaker 1: I feel hurt. Like it's like I can just put

769
00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:14,799
Speaker 1: myself right back there and feel that pain of like rejection,

770
00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:17,680
Speaker 1: like rejection, I don't know, it's one of the biggest

771
00:41:17,719 --> 00:41:25,480
Speaker 1: things that hurts me. Yeah, how how do I say this?

772
00:41:25,560 --> 00:41:29,040
Speaker 1: De me? We want again? We started this podcast out

773
00:41:29,120 --> 00:41:31,799
Speaker 1: Demmi Burnett is somebody that we think of, we think

774
00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:34,880
Speaker 1: of funny and quirky, and I think back in the

775
00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:37,640
Speaker 1: day you you confronted me on it. But I think

776
00:41:37,640 --> 00:41:41,319
Speaker 1: I called you like the lovable past Um that like

777
00:41:42,040 --> 00:41:46,960
Speaker 1: was just always like getting into people and but like

778
00:41:47,080 --> 00:41:49,160
Speaker 1: you're lovable at the same time. I don't know how

779
00:41:49,160 --> 00:41:53,719
Speaker 1: you do that. That's still beyond me. Um. But what

780
00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:56,000
Speaker 1: I'm learning right now after hearing this, and this is

781
00:41:56,080 --> 00:42:02,080
Speaker 1: unexpected for me, is that like you feel everything, yeah,

782
00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:05,959
Speaker 1: very intensely. How am how am I as a fan

783
00:42:06,040 --> 00:42:11,799
Speaker 1: of you supposed to process your story? Then that's been

784
00:42:11,840 --> 00:42:14,399
Speaker 1: a part of your childhood now through the show. If

785
00:42:14,440 --> 00:42:16,680
Speaker 1: I watch you, and I'm assuming this is how you

786
00:42:16,719 --> 00:42:19,400
Speaker 1: are in real life as like this funny pest like

787
00:42:19,520 --> 00:42:21,280
Speaker 1: friend that you love and that you just went around

788
00:42:21,320 --> 00:42:23,640
Speaker 1: because you always are doing You're always down for anything.

789
00:42:24,880 --> 00:42:28,400
Speaker 1: But yet if I really got to know you, I

790
00:42:28,440 --> 00:42:33,400
Speaker 1: would see that you feel everything. Yeah, Um, what is

791
00:42:33,440 --> 00:42:36,600
Speaker 1: your question? So how am I supposed to know? Like?

792
00:42:36,600 --> 00:42:38,480
Speaker 1: How am I supposed to process that? After seeing your

793
00:42:38,480 --> 00:42:40,080
Speaker 1: story play out on the show? Like how am I

794
00:42:40,120 --> 00:42:44,160
Speaker 1: supposed to process your Bachelor experience and moving into Bachelor

795
00:42:44,200 --> 00:42:49,160
Speaker 1: in Paradise Because that was a huge thing for you too, obviously, Um,

796
00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:51,239
Speaker 1: seeing one side of you on TV, but knowing behind

797
00:42:51,280 --> 00:42:55,600
Speaker 1: the scenes, there was a deep, deep hurt feelings and

798
00:42:55,680 --> 00:42:59,680
Speaker 1: feelings as a fan, like people that are fans of me,

799
00:42:59,719 --> 00:43:03,759
Speaker 1: what they can like take away from this story and

800
00:43:03,800 --> 00:43:07,560
Speaker 1: like learning all this stuff about me is just learning

801
00:43:07,600 --> 00:43:13,799
Speaker 1: that people are complex and just because like you see

802
00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:16,200
Speaker 1: somebody and you think, oh, they must have had the

803
00:43:16,200 --> 00:43:19,200
Speaker 1: best life ever. They're so happy, they're so funny, they're

804
00:43:19,239 --> 00:43:21,360
Speaker 1: like even kind of like you know, a little pesti

805
00:43:21,520 --> 00:43:25,480
Speaker 1: or whatever. Uh, they could have a whole other side

806
00:43:25,480 --> 00:43:28,880
Speaker 1: of their life and be like, you know, sometimes I

807
00:43:28,880 --> 00:43:30,920
Speaker 1: feel like I'm two different people. Like I have like

808
00:43:31,080 --> 00:43:35,680
Speaker 1: my deep, vulnerable, emotional feeling side that is a huge

809
00:43:35,719 --> 00:43:37,920
Speaker 1: part of me, and then I have this side of

810
00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:39,879
Speaker 1: me that just wants to have fun and make fun

811
00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:43,399
Speaker 1: of my friends and you know, just goof around. It's

812
00:43:43,480 --> 00:43:46,839
Speaker 1: just like people are complex and like have some forgiveness

813
00:43:46,840 --> 00:43:50,400
Speaker 1: and like understanding about other people, Like don't just assume

814
00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:56,080
Speaker 1: things about people. UM, get to know people better, like

815
00:43:56,480 --> 00:43:58,840
Speaker 1: and give I don't know, give them, give people a chance.

816
00:44:01,000 --> 00:44:02,960
Speaker 1: That's what we're doing this. This is exactly why we're

817
00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:04,960
Speaker 1: sitting here. This is why I love this so much.

818
00:44:05,160 --> 00:44:09,439
Speaker 1: Is going to know you really cool? I like this. Yeah,

819
00:44:10,360 --> 00:44:12,680
Speaker 1: we are I am eating up every word you're telling us.

820
00:44:13,120 --> 00:44:15,759
Speaker 1: So now, can you tell us about the time that

821
00:44:15,840 --> 00:44:19,759
Speaker 1: you met Christian off the show and how fast did

822
00:44:19,800 --> 00:44:24,719
Speaker 1: that relationship evolved into a romantic one. Yeah. Um, so

823
00:44:24,840 --> 00:44:29,160
Speaker 1: I met Christian at Catherine Agro's house. Um, I was

824
00:44:29,200 --> 00:44:33,359
Speaker 1: in l A for something bachelor related and then I, um,

825
00:44:33,400 --> 00:44:35,759
Speaker 1: we were just friends, Like she was really cool. Then

826
00:44:36,360 --> 00:44:38,319
Speaker 1: I just I think I stayed there maybe one night,

827
00:44:38,800 --> 00:44:40,920
Speaker 1: and then I flew home, and then I came back

828
00:44:40,920 --> 00:44:42,680
Speaker 1: the next time and was hanging out with her again.

829
00:44:43,680 --> 00:44:46,640
Speaker 1: And the first night we were hanging out, uh, we

830
00:44:47,760 --> 00:44:50,000
Speaker 1: it's just started making out like by the hot tub,

831
00:44:50,200 --> 00:44:53,080
Speaker 1: and then we just kind of like started spending every

832
00:44:53,080 --> 00:44:54,640
Speaker 1: time I was in l A. Like I'd spend time

833
00:44:54,680 --> 00:44:58,520
Speaker 1: with her. Um, and it was just like really easy

834
00:44:58,560 --> 00:45:03,839
Speaker 1: and really comfortable and like yeah, I mean it went

835
00:45:03,920 --> 00:45:07,440
Speaker 1: it went pretty fast. But like it wasn't ever. It

836
00:45:07,480 --> 00:45:11,880
Speaker 1: wasn't ever. Um, like there was no title on it,

837
00:45:11,920 --> 00:45:15,080
Speaker 1: there was no rules. Yeah, it wasn't wasn't official, and

838
00:45:15,120 --> 00:45:17,640
Speaker 1: I made it clear that like I had plans and

839
00:45:17,680 --> 00:45:20,759
Speaker 1: like we were like having fun. I mean it was

840
00:45:20,800 --> 00:45:29,040
Speaker 1: definitely emotional like two but um, yeah, like she knew

841
00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:34,799
Speaker 1: what it was, and like, yeah, what do you say

842
00:45:34,800 --> 00:45:38,120
Speaker 1: to the fans that think that you should have stayed

843
00:45:38,160 --> 00:45:41,200
Speaker 1: and pursued a relationship with her off camera since you

844
00:45:41,280 --> 00:45:46,719
Speaker 1: were so emotionally involved. Um, I understand that. I could

845
00:45:46,760 --> 00:45:50,839
Speaker 1: see why people would say that obviously, Like I get

846
00:45:50,880 --> 00:45:53,600
Speaker 1: that side of it. I didn't want to leave. I

847
00:45:53,680 --> 00:45:57,400
Speaker 1: wanted to you know, have my free vacation and like,

848
00:45:57,800 --> 00:45:59,879
Speaker 1: you know, not have my phone, so like I could

849
00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:03,560
Speaker 1: focus on our relationship too, because it's so much different

850
00:46:03,600 --> 00:46:05,839
Speaker 1: in the real world. And like, I don't know, I

851
00:46:05,880 --> 00:46:11,680
Speaker 1: liked being there and I liked, uh having people talking

852
00:46:11,719 --> 00:46:14,600
Speaker 1: to me about my relationship to like producers and stuff

853
00:46:15,080 --> 00:46:17,080
Speaker 1: like maybe helping me make sense of things. Like I

854
00:46:17,120 --> 00:46:19,239
Speaker 1: had a really great producer and he would just tell me, like,

855
00:46:19,880 --> 00:46:23,000
Speaker 1: you're being an a and I'd be like, okay, thank you,

856
00:46:23,040 --> 00:46:25,239
Speaker 1: because like I would try to justify it if I

857
00:46:25,280 --> 00:46:27,920
Speaker 1: were in the real world, you know, like I would

858
00:46:27,920 --> 00:46:29,279
Speaker 1: find some way to be like, well, I'm being an

859
00:46:29,280 --> 00:46:31,480
Speaker 1: asshole because she's doing this, because this is like, you know,

860
00:46:31,520 --> 00:46:33,120
Speaker 1: instead of just me like I need to just change

861
00:46:33,160 --> 00:46:36,919
Speaker 1: the way I'm thinking because I'm being a jerk. Um.

862
00:46:37,040 --> 00:46:39,160
Speaker 1: So yeah, it was nice to have that help and

863
00:46:39,160 --> 00:46:42,640
Speaker 1: that guidance through your relationship. A lot of fans got

864
00:46:42,680 --> 00:46:47,000
Speaker 1: angry at Bachelor production for bringing Christian into Paradise for you.

865
00:46:47,360 --> 00:46:49,520
Speaker 1: They said it was one of those few times where

866
00:46:49,560 --> 00:46:52,800
Speaker 1: they actually felt that the producers were meddling with a

867
00:46:52,880 --> 00:46:56,360
Speaker 1: relationship and they felt that was obvious. How do you

868
00:46:56,400 --> 00:47:02,000
Speaker 1: respond to that? I mean, they it it's true, Like

869
00:47:02,040 --> 00:47:05,000
Speaker 1: I mean, they brought her into paradise and they totally

870
00:47:05,040 --> 00:47:09,000
Speaker 1: like made that happen, and so like, yeah, I'm sorry,

871
00:47:09,080 --> 00:47:13,640
Speaker 1: Like I I don't think, like it's not it's hard

872
00:47:13,680 --> 00:47:16,200
Speaker 1: because like I'm biased on it. Um, Like I didn't

873
00:47:16,239 --> 00:47:19,440
Speaker 1: think that that was that important, like that little detail.

874
00:47:19,680 --> 00:47:24,200
Speaker 1: Like I thought what was important was like sharing like

875
00:47:24,320 --> 00:47:27,399
Speaker 1: our relationship and like our love story and stuff like that,

876
00:47:27,920 --> 00:47:34,719
Speaker 1: and being able to see like you know, I like

877
00:47:34,760 --> 00:47:37,880
Speaker 1: being able to see me actually like loving somebody and

878
00:47:37,920 --> 00:47:42,640
Speaker 1: like wanting to like be with somebody. Uh, like outweighs

879
00:47:42,680 --> 00:47:45,960
Speaker 1: the minor detail that they did bring in an outsider,

880
00:47:47,719 --> 00:47:50,480
Speaker 1: but I totally get it. They're they're justified and like

881
00:47:50,719 --> 00:47:55,200
Speaker 1: feeling angry about that, Like I get it, and I

882
00:47:55,239 --> 00:47:59,720
Speaker 1: apologize for like you know, being there, but like whatever,

883
00:48:00,040 --> 00:48:03,560
Speaker 1: I mean, they were making TV at any costs. I guess,

884
00:48:03,600 --> 00:48:08,319
Speaker 1: like you know, from my knowledge, I actually tell from

885
00:48:08,360 --> 00:48:10,920
Speaker 1: a wrong This is the first time we've seen a

886
00:48:11,080 --> 00:48:14,640
Speaker 1: same sex couple on the Bachelor franchise right now in

887
00:48:14,680 --> 00:48:18,160
Speaker 1: the US. I think that they've had in other countries

888
00:48:18,480 --> 00:48:20,920
Speaker 1: in the U. S Okay, how I mean, how did

889
00:48:20,920 --> 00:48:22,759
Speaker 1: you get to the point did me to be a

890
00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:26,200
Speaker 1: trailblazer here? Like? How? What? When did it click? I'm

891
00:48:26,239 --> 00:48:31,080
Speaker 1: going to be the first and I'm okay with this? Um? Well,

892
00:48:31,120 --> 00:48:36,480
Speaker 1: it was really uncomfortable. Um but like I don't know,

893
00:48:36,560 --> 00:48:38,239
Speaker 1: I was just like I was ready. I was ready

894
00:48:38,280 --> 00:48:39,920
Speaker 1: to talk about it, like I didn't do it on

895
00:48:39,960 --> 00:48:42,160
Speaker 1: the Bachelor, and there was like you know, hiding it,

896
00:48:42,200 --> 00:48:44,440
Speaker 1: and like having this secrecy was like really getting to

897
00:48:44,520 --> 00:48:47,280
Speaker 1: me because it was like what if people find out

898
00:48:47,440 --> 00:48:50,359
Speaker 1: not from me, Like I want people to know from

899
00:48:50,400 --> 00:48:52,920
Speaker 1: me first, like you know, out of my mouth. I

900
00:48:52,920 --> 00:48:54,880
Speaker 1: don't want someone to take that away from me because

901
00:48:55,280 --> 00:48:58,480
Speaker 1: this is like my story and this is my life.

902
00:48:58,880 --> 00:49:03,799
Speaker 1: So I I've been you know, seeing Christian beforehand, and

903
00:49:03,800 --> 00:49:06,040
Speaker 1: like then we started like filming Paradise stuff and I

904
00:49:06,080 --> 00:49:10,080
Speaker 1: was like, well, like let me like tell the world

905
00:49:10,080 --> 00:49:12,120
Speaker 1: about this because like you know, it's relevant right now

906
00:49:12,160 --> 00:49:14,600
Speaker 1: to me, Like I actually am seeing like a woman

907
00:49:14,719 --> 00:49:18,480
Speaker 1: right now and stuff. So it's like perfect, I'm like

908
00:49:18,520 --> 00:49:20,719
Speaker 1: in the in the vibe of it and everything, you know,

909
00:49:20,840 --> 00:49:26,480
Speaker 1: and I'm ready to like not hide it anymore. And yeah,

910
00:49:26,680 --> 00:49:29,399
Speaker 1: and then it just it was the most emotional thing ever.

911
00:49:29,520 --> 00:49:31,520
Speaker 1: Like I was so scared. I was scared of like

912
00:49:31,520 --> 00:49:33,960
Speaker 1: what my parents were gonna say, you know, how they

913
00:49:33,960 --> 00:49:36,160
Speaker 1: were going to respond, and then my grandparents and like

914
00:49:36,239 --> 00:49:40,239
Speaker 1: all this conservative family that I have, and uh, that

915
00:49:40,320 --> 00:49:42,600
Speaker 1: was probably the scariest thing. Like the world. I was like,

916
00:49:42,640 --> 00:49:46,680
Speaker 1: the world will probably be pretty accepting of it, because

917
00:49:47,320 --> 00:49:49,560
Speaker 1: that's where we're at in this day and age. But

918
00:49:49,600 --> 00:49:52,440
Speaker 1: it's like I don't know about my conservative family members,

919
00:49:52,440 --> 00:49:55,600
Speaker 1: who like their opinions matter to me and I value them,

920
00:49:55,600 --> 00:49:57,200
Speaker 1: Like I don't know what they're gonna think of me,

921
00:49:57,280 --> 00:49:59,600
Speaker 1: and I don't want to disappoint them or embarrass them.

922
00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:02,120
Speaker 1: But like with coming out with this, so it was

923
00:50:02,160 --> 00:50:07,840
Speaker 1: really scary. The other contestants, of course, aren't allowed to

924
00:50:07,880 --> 00:50:10,520
Speaker 1: bring in relationships from home and date in Paradise. But

925
00:50:10,560 --> 00:50:12,520
Speaker 1: you say, and I think I agree with you, and

926
00:50:12,560 --> 00:50:15,520
Speaker 1: this is what I defended you about. When the show

927
00:50:15,560 --> 00:50:18,440
Speaker 1: is airing. Is there was really no other way to

928
00:50:18,600 --> 00:50:22,320
Speaker 1: introduce the same sex couple onto the show then honestly

929
00:50:22,360 --> 00:50:25,719
Speaker 1: manipulating it a little bit and bringing someone in from

930
00:50:25,760 --> 00:50:27,880
Speaker 1: the real world. So is that what you're saying, Like

931
00:50:27,920 --> 00:50:31,560
Speaker 1: it was the importance should override the unfairness to the

932
00:50:31,560 --> 00:50:34,879
Speaker 1: other contestants. Yeah, definitely, I mean that's what I think.

933
00:50:34,920 --> 00:50:38,440
Speaker 1: I'm not you know, I don't want to try to

934
00:50:38,520 --> 00:50:41,520
Speaker 1: change anyone's opinion on it or whatever. I just that's

935
00:50:41,520 --> 00:50:43,680
Speaker 1: what I think. And it's kind of like, let's just

936
00:50:43,719 --> 00:50:45,360
Speaker 1: get over it and just like be happy and like

937
00:50:45,400 --> 00:50:47,960
Speaker 1: celebrate the fact that we got to see two women

938
00:50:48,280 --> 00:50:52,200
Speaker 1: like fall in love with each other. Right, Okay, Well,

939
00:50:52,239 --> 00:50:54,120
Speaker 1: you guys doing fall in off and you get engaged

940
00:50:54,160 --> 00:50:56,440
Speaker 1: at the end of the show. And I feel like

941
00:50:56,480 --> 00:50:58,759
Speaker 1: a lot of people were wondering watching it, if you

942
00:50:58,760 --> 00:51:01,160
Speaker 1: continue to date in the real world over that summer

943
00:51:01,520 --> 00:51:03,920
Speaker 1: and not in Paradise, would you guys have ever gotten

944
00:51:04,000 --> 00:51:06,040
Speaker 1: serious enough to the point that you would get engaged?

945
00:51:06,840 --> 00:51:16,839
Speaker 1: No way, probably not, definitely not Okay? So then what

946
00:51:16,880 --> 00:51:20,760
Speaker 1: went wrong? You did get engaged? Um? As actually just mentioned,

947
00:51:22,400 --> 00:51:29,359
Speaker 1: how did it end? Um? Not good? Definitely not good. Um,

948
00:51:29,440 --> 00:51:34,359
Speaker 1: She's Christian is very, very loving and she's like the

949
00:51:34,400 --> 00:51:37,799
Speaker 1: best girlfriend, the best partner to be with. She would

950
00:51:37,800 --> 00:51:43,239
Speaker 1: do anything for you. And um, I didn't reciprocate that

951
00:51:44,160 --> 00:51:46,480
Speaker 1: I wasn't that I wasn't as good to her as

952
00:51:46,520 --> 00:51:50,279
Speaker 1: she was to me. I was kind of distant. Um,

953
00:51:50,320 --> 00:51:53,880
Speaker 1: I was overwhelmed. I was freaked out, you know, I

954
00:51:53,920 --> 00:51:58,759
Speaker 1: was scared and like going through you know, all of

955
00:51:59,080 --> 00:52:03,480
Speaker 1: my family and like everyone finding out about um, like

956
00:52:03,600 --> 00:52:07,200
Speaker 1: you know, me being open to anything, liking girls, liking boys,

957
00:52:07,200 --> 00:52:09,719
Speaker 1: liking whatever. That was stressing me out. And I had

958
00:52:09,719 --> 00:52:11,600
Speaker 1: a lot of family that was not a lot, but

959
00:52:11,640 --> 00:52:14,600
Speaker 1: a couple people in my family like badgering me, texting

960
00:52:14,640 --> 00:52:17,920
Speaker 1: me with how disappointed they were and all this stuff.

961
00:52:19,040 --> 00:52:24,560
Speaker 1: And I don't know, like I I don't know. I

962
00:52:24,640 --> 00:52:28,400
Speaker 1: just I wasn't. I wasn't in it anymore. I wasn't.

963
00:52:28,560 --> 00:52:30,480
Speaker 1: I wasn't in it, and she was so in it

964
00:52:30,560 --> 00:52:33,360
Speaker 1: and she was so good to me, And like that

965
00:52:33,400 --> 00:52:35,480
Speaker 1: would make me feel guilty because I was like, I'm

966
00:52:35,480 --> 00:52:38,479
Speaker 1: not feeling the same anymore, and like I feel bad

967
00:52:38,480 --> 00:52:41,120
Speaker 1: that I don't feel the same anymore, because like I

968
00:52:41,280 --> 00:52:43,520
Speaker 1: made a commitment to you, and like I feel like

969
00:52:43,560 --> 00:52:50,719
Speaker 1: a garbage human being and uh, yeah, I just it

970
00:52:50,760 --> 00:52:53,960
Speaker 1: was really like sucking with me and like I was

971
00:52:54,000 --> 00:52:57,120
Speaker 1: speaking with her and that wasn't fair to her. She

972
00:52:57,200 --> 00:53:00,319
Speaker 1: deserved way better than me, and like I wanted to

973
00:53:00,320 --> 00:53:02,640
Speaker 1: be with her more than anything, and like I kept trying,

974
00:53:02,640 --> 00:53:05,480
Speaker 1: and I kept trying, and like I just wasn't I

975
00:53:05,520 --> 00:53:09,120
Speaker 1: wasn't feeling it anymore, like I wasn't feeling like I

976
00:53:09,160 --> 00:53:12,239
Speaker 1: was before. Like I don't know it went away. I

977
00:53:12,400 --> 00:53:15,480
Speaker 1: probably let it get away because I was so in

978
00:53:15,520 --> 00:53:18,719
Speaker 1: my head and dealing with other things that were going on,

979
00:53:19,520 --> 00:53:23,239
Speaker 1: and I missed my friends. You know, I didn't see

980
00:53:23,239 --> 00:53:25,319
Speaker 1: my friends that much anymore, like I would try to,

981
00:53:25,560 --> 00:53:28,040
Speaker 1: and I was always worried about like hurting her feelings

982
00:53:28,040 --> 00:53:31,719
Speaker 1: and stuff. And I just don't think that I was

983
00:53:31,880 --> 00:53:34,960
Speaker 1: anywhere near ready for what I signed myself up for,

984
00:53:35,000 --> 00:53:40,080
Speaker 1: and like what I did, and I feel terribly about it,

985
00:53:40,160 --> 00:53:43,640
Speaker 1: Like I wish I could go back and do it better,

986
00:53:44,000 --> 00:53:47,560
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, treat her way better and

987
00:53:47,719 --> 00:53:50,520
Speaker 1: like she deserves because she deserves way better than what

988
00:53:50,760 --> 00:53:58,480
Speaker 1: I gave her. Um And yeah, I mean she's she's

989
00:53:58,480 --> 00:54:00,560
Speaker 1: in a new relationship now and she looks so happy

990
00:54:00,600 --> 00:54:03,280
Speaker 1: and so that makes me very happy. I just feel

991
00:54:03,440 --> 00:54:07,920
Speaker 1: really bad that I was that person I had become

992
00:54:07,920 --> 00:54:12,239
Speaker 1: in the relationship. You know, how rocky was your relationship

993
00:54:12,280 --> 00:54:14,839
Speaker 1: when she proposed back to you on the reunion show,

994
00:54:15,080 --> 00:54:19,399
Speaker 1: And did that just make you a little bit irritated

995
00:54:19,640 --> 00:54:22,520
Speaker 1: that she did that maybe as like a saving grace,

996
00:54:22,960 --> 00:54:27,319
Speaker 1: the last ditch effort, you know, I don't. I it

997
00:54:27,360 --> 00:54:31,000
Speaker 1: definitely made me angry, but I think it like irritated.

998
00:54:31,040 --> 00:54:35,200
Speaker 1: And I think that made me irritated because, um, I'm like,

999
00:54:35,760 --> 00:54:38,080
Speaker 1: I'm kind of like, no, not kind of. I'm a

1000
00:54:38,080 --> 00:54:41,000
Speaker 1: selfish person sometimes and like that was like my thing,

1001
00:54:41,040 --> 00:54:42,600
Speaker 1: you know. I was like I proposed to you, like

1002
00:54:42,840 --> 00:54:45,480
Speaker 1: you know, and then I was like why, like why

1003
00:54:45,600 --> 00:54:47,240
Speaker 1: why did you do it? Like that makes no sense?

1004
00:54:47,280 --> 00:54:49,799
Speaker 1: Like that was you know, people don't propose to each

1005
00:54:49,840 --> 00:54:51,480
Speaker 1: other like that normally. Like I don't know, I was

1006
00:54:51,520 --> 00:54:54,520
Speaker 1: being a bit about it. Essentially. I was just irritated

1007
00:54:54,560 --> 00:54:57,680
Speaker 1: about the situation. And I was just oh, and like

1008
00:54:57,880 --> 00:55:00,040
Speaker 1: I'm such a brat, Like I didn't like the ring

1009
00:55:00,080 --> 00:55:05,799
Speaker 1: at all, and so I was just yeah, so you know,

1010
00:55:05,920 --> 00:55:08,120
Speaker 1: I was just a brat, and um, I was being

1011
00:55:08,120 --> 00:55:13,879
Speaker 1: braddy about it and just irritated Uh, in general, because

1012
00:55:13,880 --> 00:55:16,239
Speaker 1: like once once I start, you know, you start not

1013
00:55:16,280 --> 00:55:18,880
Speaker 1: to feel it with somebody, you kind of get irritable

1014
00:55:18,880 --> 00:55:23,680
Speaker 1: with everything they do. Uh. So I mean I feel

1015
00:55:23,840 --> 00:55:26,200
Speaker 1: really really bad about that too, because it was a

1016
00:55:26,440 --> 00:55:31,160
Speaker 1: really nice, sweet gesture and I like made her probably

1017
00:55:31,160 --> 00:55:32,920
Speaker 1: feel like, you know, she shouldn't have done it or

1018
00:55:32,920 --> 00:55:34,560
Speaker 1: made her feel bad about it, and like that's so

1019
00:55:34,680 --> 00:55:42,960
Speaker 1: not fair. Mhm, de me um. Let's take a break

1020
00:55:42,960 --> 00:55:45,880
Speaker 1: here once again. I know a life's been crazy post

1021
00:55:46,800 --> 00:55:51,400
Speaker 1: breakup with Christian. A little recap. You have a new boyfriend. Uh,

1022
00:55:51,560 --> 00:55:55,279
Speaker 1: you've made some good friends in Bachelor Nation. Uh. We've

1023
00:55:55,280 --> 00:55:58,120
Speaker 1: still got a lot more to talk about, but we

1024
00:55:58,160 --> 00:56:00,760
Speaker 1: appreciate you so far. We'll be back on the Almost

1025
00:56:00,800 --> 00:56:14,200
Speaker 1: Famous in depth podcast with Demi Burnett. We're back on

1026
00:56:14,200 --> 00:56:17,120
Speaker 1: the Almost Famous podcast with Demi Burnette. We've sat down

1027
00:56:17,160 --> 00:56:20,920
Speaker 1: with Demi so far and she's just shared some some

1028
00:56:21,120 --> 00:56:25,759
Speaker 1: just really amazing things to us. It's it's been complex

1029
00:56:25,800 --> 00:56:28,160
Speaker 1: and complex and like a good healthy way. I'm saying

1030
00:56:28,200 --> 00:56:30,560
Speaker 1: that because we all have stories and Dimmi reminded us earlier,

1031
00:56:30,760 --> 00:56:32,560
Speaker 1: probably the coolest thing to me that I'll take away

1032
00:56:32,600 --> 00:56:35,000
Speaker 1: from this is you saying that people are just complex

1033
00:56:35,040 --> 00:56:37,200
Speaker 1: in our stories are complex. I think that's just a

1034
00:56:37,280 --> 00:56:41,520
Speaker 1: really beautiful reminder to me. So thank you for that. Um.

1035
00:56:41,640 --> 00:56:44,719
Speaker 1: Did We've talked about a lot of heavy stuff kind

1036
00:56:44,760 --> 00:56:46,440
Speaker 1: of I think so far, so we're gonna pick it

1037
00:56:46,480 --> 00:56:48,000
Speaker 1: up a bit and know life's really good for you

1038
00:56:48,120 --> 00:56:50,040
Speaker 1: right now, at least I think it is. But you've

1039
00:56:50,040 --> 00:56:52,759
Speaker 1: also made some made some friends and bachelination. You've made

1040
00:56:52,760 --> 00:56:55,799
Speaker 1: the headlines many times for your friendship with Nick Vile.

1041
00:56:56,160 --> 00:56:58,960
Speaker 1: Where did that come from? Like, how did that happen?

1042
00:56:59,040 --> 00:57:03,080
Speaker 1: What was your relationship? Um? So, I was a huge

1043
00:57:03,200 --> 00:57:05,759
Speaker 1: Nick fan. I loved his season of The Bachelor. I

1044
00:57:05,800 --> 00:57:09,160
Speaker 1: was like obsessed with him. Um. I remember telling Ashley

1045
00:57:09,200 --> 00:57:13,279
Speaker 1: that the first time she interviewed me, Uh, it was funny. Um.

1046
00:57:13,680 --> 00:57:15,239
Speaker 1: And so then he asked me to be on his

1047
00:57:15,320 --> 00:57:18,280
Speaker 1: podcast and I was like freaking out. I was so excited. UM.

1048
00:57:18,360 --> 00:57:20,480
Speaker 1: And then we just kind of like developed this like

1049
00:57:21,000 --> 00:57:24,000
Speaker 1: brother sister relationship. Like he always was like looking out

1050
00:57:24,040 --> 00:57:27,440
Speaker 1: for me, and he like, you know, helps me out

1051
00:57:27,480 --> 00:57:29,520
Speaker 1: in the industry. Like he's you know, I got to

1052
00:57:29,560 --> 00:57:32,280
Speaker 1: go to the Golden Globes because of him. Uh. He's

1053
00:57:32,320 --> 00:57:33,680
Speaker 1: just a really good friend to me and like, we

1054
00:57:33,720 --> 00:57:35,520
Speaker 1: always just make sure that we like look out for

1055
00:57:35,560 --> 00:57:37,880
Speaker 1: each other because I know that we both do controversial

1056
00:57:37,920 --> 00:57:40,600
Speaker 1: things and you know, a lot of people don't like him,

1057
00:57:40,760 --> 00:57:43,080
Speaker 1: a lot of people don't like me. Uh, and so

1058
00:57:43,160 --> 00:57:47,240
Speaker 1: we just have each other's back. Um. Yeah, it's always

1059
00:57:47,240 --> 00:57:53,120
Speaker 1: been strictly, strictly friendship. We've never ever done anything. Um.

1060
00:57:53,240 --> 00:57:55,360
Speaker 1: I've definitely asked him to make out with me once

1061
00:57:55,360 --> 00:58:00,800
Speaker 1: and he said no, what to feel, like, what you

1062
00:58:00,840 --> 00:58:06,600
Speaker 1: needed that? I had? We ate, uh dim sum or something,

1063
00:58:06,640 --> 00:58:08,360
Speaker 1: and then I was like drunk off a wine. I

1064
00:58:08,400 --> 00:58:09,840
Speaker 1: was like, I wanted my gout and He's like, no,

1065
00:58:09,880 --> 00:58:12,800
Speaker 1: get out of the car. The only place you go

1066
00:58:12,880 --> 00:58:15,439
Speaker 1: to eat with with Nick would be dim Zum. That's

1067
00:58:15,440 --> 00:58:17,880
Speaker 1: where he takes all this front where he takes everyone,

1068
00:58:18,360 --> 00:58:20,360
Speaker 1: takes everyone there. I know. It's so funny. We all

1069
00:58:20,440 --> 00:58:22,200
Speaker 1: joke about it, like me and all of his other friends.

1070
00:58:22,240 --> 00:58:24,520
Speaker 1: I'm like, you go to dim Sum with Nick recently?

1071
00:58:25,240 --> 00:58:29,640
Speaker 1: Is that good? It's good. It's not that good. It's

1072
00:58:29,640 --> 00:58:34,000
Speaker 1: like it's weakly dim sum. He loves it. I want

1073
00:58:34,040 --> 00:58:39,080
Speaker 1: to ask you about being a representative for the just

1074
00:58:39,440 --> 00:58:42,440
Speaker 1: the whole l g pt q Q community when it

1075
00:58:42,480 --> 00:58:45,640
Speaker 1: comes to the franchise. How has that felt. Are there

1076
00:58:45,640 --> 00:58:48,480
Speaker 1: any really special stories that you have to share about

1077
00:58:48,480 --> 00:58:52,240
Speaker 1: breaking down that barrier for the show? Um? You know,

1078
00:58:52,280 --> 00:58:56,080
Speaker 1: at first it felt really crazy and overwhelming, but now

1079
00:58:56,320 --> 00:58:58,040
Speaker 1: you know, it just kind of feels like normal. And

1080
00:58:58,080 --> 00:59:00,640
Speaker 1: also I don't really do anything with like the Bachelor

1081
00:59:00,680 --> 00:59:03,880
Speaker 1: franchise much recently, you know, Like, uh, I feel like

1082
00:59:03,920 --> 00:59:06,240
Speaker 1: ever since I got a boyfriend not in Bachelor Nation,

1083
00:59:06,320 --> 00:59:08,680
Speaker 1: that you just don't want anything to do with me. Um.

1084
00:59:09,240 --> 00:59:14,320
Speaker 1: But I I can't really say, like, I don't even

1085
00:59:14,320 --> 00:59:17,600
Speaker 1: know how I feel about it, Like honestly, I I

1086
00:59:17,640 --> 00:59:19,680
Speaker 1: don't know what to think. The only thing that I

1087
00:59:19,680 --> 00:59:23,120
Speaker 1: will say, like, I do feel proud because of I've

1088
00:59:23,160 --> 00:59:26,240
Speaker 1: had people come up to me with their stories about like,

1089
00:59:26,520 --> 00:59:28,120
Speaker 1: you know, one time, this mother came up to me

1090
00:59:28,440 --> 00:59:31,280
Speaker 1: at Dancing with the Stars and she said her daughter

1091
00:59:31,680 --> 00:59:34,000
Speaker 1: came out to her because of me, and she was crying,

1092
00:59:34,000 --> 00:59:36,600
Speaker 1: Like this mother's crying in front of me, and like

1093
00:59:36,720 --> 00:59:38,480
Speaker 1: that was just like so moving, and I was just

1094
00:59:38,520 --> 00:59:40,480
Speaker 1: so proud that I was able to do that for

1095
00:59:40,560 --> 00:59:42,680
Speaker 1: somebody out there. And there's been like a lot of

1096
00:59:42,720 --> 00:59:46,000
Speaker 1: stories that are similarly d m s. People thanking me

1097
00:59:46,040 --> 00:59:48,760
Speaker 1: and stuff like that. So it feels really good that

1098
00:59:48,800 --> 00:59:51,600
Speaker 1: I can make people feel comfortable with something that is

1099
00:59:51,800 --> 00:59:53,920
Speaker 1: like one of the most uncomfortable, hardest things to do

1100
00:59:54,000 --> 00:59:57,640
Speaker 1: in the world. That is awesome. Um, there have been

1101
00:59:57,720 --> 01:00:00,000
Speaker 1: a lot of fans who wanted you to be the Bachelorette.

1102
01:00:00,800 --> 01:00:02,480
Speaker 1: How do you feel like they would have casted that

1103
01:00:02,560 --> 01:00:04,960
Speaker 1: kind of season if you were in a relationship right now,

1104
01:00:04,960 --> 01:00:07,200
Speaker 1: which we'll get to you in a minute. And um,

1105
01:00:07,200 --> 01:00:13,600
Speaker 1: how could they integrate more LGBTQ people into the franchise?

1106
01:00:13,720 --> 01:00:16,160
Speaker 1: You think? You know? I don't know what they would

1107
01:00:16,160 --> 01:00:17,840
Speaker 1: have done. I know what people would have wanted as

1108
01:00:17,880 --> 01:00:20,760
Speaker 1: like half guys half girls, um, which I mean that

1109
01:00:20,800 --> 01:00:23,400
Speaker 1: would have been super fun. I would have loved that. Um.

1110
01:00:23,480 --> 01:00:26,560
Speaker 1: But then they bring up the issue of them hooking

1111
01:00:26,640 --> 01:00:29,880
Speaker 1: up with each other, uh and stuff like that, which

1112
01:00:29,880 --> 01:00:32,400
Speaker 1: is like, okay, yeah, maybe that that would happen too.

1113
01:00:32,480 --> 01:00:35,240
Speaker 1: So I don't, I don't know what they could do.

1114
01:00:35,280 --> 01:00:39,520
Speaker 1: I think about it a lot. Um, I just I don't.

1115
01:00:39,520 --> 01:00:43,040
Speaker 1: I don't know how they could do it. I I

1116
01:00:43,080 --> 01:00:44,680
Speaker 1: don't have that. I need a team. I need a

1117
01:00:44,680 --> 01:00:48,240
Speaker 1: whole team of people to help me come up with that. Well,

1118
01:00:48,280 --> 01:00:50,840
Speaker 1: you won't be the Bachelor at anytime soon, because we

1119
01:00:51,000 --> 01:00:54,120
Speaker 1: got Claire Knacks. And you are in a relationship with

1120
01:00:54,160 --> 01:01:00,080
Speaker 1: a new guy, Slater, Yes, that's him. How did you

1121
01:01:00,080 --> 01:01:04,840
Speaker 1: guys meet? Um? One day Katie texted me and Katie said, Hey,

1122
01:01:04,920 --> 01:01:06,440
Speaker 1: do you want to go to lunch with me and

1123
01:01:06,480 --> 01:01:09,080
Speaker 1: my friends? And I was like, yeah, sure, And so

1124
01:01:09,320 --> 01:01:12,360
Speaker 1: I go up to the car and I opened the

1125
01:01:12,360 --> 01:01:16,080
Speaker 1: door and there is Slater and my I couldn't even breathe.

1126
01:01:16,120 --> 01:01:18,200
Speaker 1: I was like, what the hell, Katie, you didn't tell

1127
01:01:18,200 --> 01:01:21,680
Speaker 1: me this dude was super hot Um, and we like

1128
01:01:21,760 --> 01:01:24,560
Speaker 1: hung out all day. We went to eat because Katie

1129
01:01:24,560 --> 01:01:26,800
Speaker 1: and him have been friends for years, so it's like

1130
01:01:26,880 --> 01:01:28,720
Speaker 1: me and him, Katie and this other guy t K

1131
01:01:29,320 --> 01:01:31,080
Speaker 1: and we went to go eat. Then we went to

1132
01:01:31,120 --> 01:01:33,360
Speaker 1: the mall. Then we went and got like Gin and Tonics.

1133
01:01:33,640 --> 01:01:36,440
Speaker 1: Then we went back to Slater's mom's house here in Calabasas,

1134
01:01:37,160 --> 01:01:41,240
Speaker 1: and then we um drank wine and we made a

1135
01:01:41,280 --> 01:01:45,840
Speaker 1: TikTok and then we hooked up and then I have

1136
01:01:46,160 --> 01:01:49,160
Speaker 1: been with him every night since then. You are literally

1137
01:01:49,240 --> 01:01:53,360
Speaker 1: quarantined with your new boyfriend and your boyfriend's a family's house.

1138
01:01:53,640 --> 01:01:55,880
Speaker 1: How do you go from that early stage of dating

1139
01:01:56,240 --> 01:02:01,360
Speaker 1: to every single waging moment together. I don't know, because

1140
01:02:01,400 --> 01:02:03,680
Speaker 1: it's it's so crazy because I'm not normally like this.

1141
01:02:03,840 --> 01:02:07,760
Speaker 1: I don't I can't really handle this much time with anybody.

1142
01:02:07,760 --> 01:02:10,760
Speaker 1: But he just has such a unique personality and he's

1143
01:02:10,840 --> 01:02:13,160
Speaker 1: just so fun and I just love being around in

1144
01:02:13,240 --> 01:02:15,480
Speaker 1: my love just watching him because he just interests the

1145
01:02:15,680 --> 01:02:19,360
Speaker 1: out of me, Like he's just the most fascinating person.

1146
01:02:19,520 --> 01:02:23,360
Speaker 1: And his family is incredible. I met his mom the

1147
01:02:23,360 --> 01:02:26,680
Speaker 1: first night that we met, obviously, um, and she's just

1148
01:02:26,760 --> 01:02:29,280
Speaker 1: a rock star mom. And then he has his sisters.

1149
01:02:29,280 --> 01:02:31,520
Speaker 1: So it's just I don't know. I would have never

1150
01:02:31,560 --> 01:02:33,680
Speaker 1: imagined I could be doing this because this kind of

1151
01:02:33,720 --> 01:02:36,800
Speaker 1: thing would really intimidate me. Um, But it just like,

1152
01:02:37,120 --> 01:02:38,600
Speaker 1: I don't know, it just kind of happened, like we

1153
01:02:38,680 --> 01:02:40,680
Speaker 1: just got so close and then now I'm so close

1154
01:02:40,680 --> 01:02:43,120
Speaker 1: with his family and it's I don't know, it's the

1155
01:02:43,160 --> 01:02:46,560
Speaker 1: craziest thing. It sounds like insane and unhealthy, which it

1156
01:02:46,640 --> 01:02:50,800
Speaker 1: might be a little bit unhealthy, but UM, I don't know.

1157
01:02:50,800 --> 01:02:55,080
Speaker 1: I wouldn't have it any other way. How's it going

1158
01:02:55,160 --> 01:02:57,880
Speaker 1: so far? What's it like living with his family? Um,

1159
01:02:57,920 --> 01:03:00,200
Speaker 1: it's great, Like I get along with that. He went

1160
01:03:00,280 --> 01:03:02,480
Speaker 1: super well, the person I probably get like, don't get

1161
01:03:02,520 --> 01:03:04,800
Speaker 1: along with all the time. It's just later because you know,

1162
01:03:04,840 --> 01:03:09,720
Speaker 1: you just start having stupid little bickers. Um. But yeah,

1163
01:03:09,720 --> 01:03:11,680
Speaker 1: I mean it's it's so much fun. Like his sister

1164
01:03:11,720 --> 01:03:13,680
Speaker 1: and me, we have so much fun together, like both

1165
01:03:13,680 --> 01:03:16,640
Speaker 1: of his sisters as older sisters, like my new bestie,

1166
01:03:16,640 --> 01:03:18,280
Speaker 1: when you just hang out all the time and just

1167
01:03:18,360 --> 01:03:21,200
Speaker 1: do stupid together, like just get drunk or whatever we

1168
01:03:21,240 --> 01:03:23,960
Speaker 1: want to do. And then we like we started this

1169
01:03:24,040 --> 01:03:26,400
Speaker 1: new thing where we're having like theme nights. So the

1170
01:03:26,440 --> 01:03:29,360
Speaker 1: other day we did like a Gatsby theme night, and

1171
01:03:29,560 --> 01:03:32,560
Speaker 1: I didn't really expect like everyone to participate, but everyone

1172
01:03:32,640 --> 01:03:34,680
Speaker 1: did and it was so cool and it was so

1173
01:03:34,800 --> 01:03:40,040
Speaker 1: much fun. Um. Yeah, everyone's very very chill, like a

1174
01:03:40,600 --> 01:03:42,680
Speaker 1: you know how sometimes you're around people and you're like, oh,

1175
01:03:42,720 --> 01:03:44,800
Speaker 1: I gotta like watch myself around them, you know, and

1176
01:03:44,960 --> 01:03:48,160
Speaker 1: like gotta like filter yourself and everything. Not here, like

1177
01:03:48,240 --> 01:03:53,320
Speaker 1: everyone's accepting of everything, no filters needed. Uh, It's just

1178
01:03:53,440 --> 01:04:01,040
Speaker 1: it's great. It's very very relaxed. So good. That's awesome.

1179
01:04:01,080 --> 01:04:03,960
Speaker 1: I'm with my I'm with my fiance's family as well,

1180
01:04:04,080 --> 01:04:06,479
Speaker 1: so I know it can be a test and it's

1181
01:04:06,520 --> 01:04:13,520
Speaker 1: it's actually been great for us too. So yeah, well, hey,

1182
01:04:13,560 --> 01:04:17,640
Speaker 1: that's you know what, Tommy. We just did like a

1183
01:04:18,240 --> 01:04:21,680
Speaker 1: wild run through your whole Well, I know those things

1184
01:04:21,720 --> 01:04:25,200
Speaker 1: we skipped like most of your life to this point.

1185
01:04:25,240 --> 01:04:29,240
Speaker 1: That is a wild ride, Demi. I I love this

1186
01:04:29,360 --> 01:04:33,240
Speaker 1: part of the podcast. Uh, since we've gone through everything,

1187
01:04:33,800 --> 01:04:36,600
Speaker 1: it's now your term to turn to take the stage.

1188
01:04:37,000 --> 01:04:39,000
Speaker 1: There's people out there listening that are just huge fans

1189
01:04:39,000 --> 01:04:40,840
Speaker 1: of you and they love you dearly, and Ashley and

1190
01:04:40,880 --> 01:04:43,400
Speaker 1: I are to those people. We're gonna give you like

1191
01:04:43,480 --> 01:04:47,360
Speaker 1: thirty seconds to a minute here, Uh, to just give

1192
01:04:47,400 --> 01:04:50,640
Speaker 1: the fans a message before Ashley takes it away with

1193
01:04:50,680 --> 01:04:55,640
Speaker 1: her famous rapid fire questions, Demi, what would you want

1194
01:04:55,640 --> 01:04:58,160
Speaker 1: to tell your fans right now? I would want to

1195
01:04:58,200 --> 01:05:01,800
Speaker 1: tell my fans that I love them. I think it's

1196
01:05:01,840 --> 01:05:05,000
Speaker 1: crazy that I even have fans. It's unbelievable still to me,

1197
01:05:05,680 --> 01:05:08,880
Speaker 1: I never thought that i'd be here. And I love

1198
01:05:08,960 --> 01:05:13,960
Speaker 1: how supportive they are to me and how loyal they

1199
01:05:13,960 --> 01:05:17,680
Speaker 1: are to me. And even whenever I doubt myself or

1200
01:05:17,760 --> 01:05:20,400
Speaker 1: you know, I'm feeling kind of low or something like,

1201
01:05:20,480 --> 01:05:23,040
Speaker 1: they're always there to reassure me. Like if I'm intimidated

1202
01:05:23,080 --> 01:05:25,120
Speaker 1: by a situation. I have my fans that are like,

1203
01:05:25,320 --> 01:05:27,640
Speaker 1: you know, like me starting a podcast, and my fans

1204
01:05:27,720 --> 01:05:29,280
Speaker 1: are like, oh my gosh, you has We've been waiting

1205
01:05:29,280 --> 01:05:32,560
Speaker 1: for this best part of like the quarantine, like you know,

1206
01:05:32,760 --> 01:05:35,880
Speaker 1: like this is what we need right now in uh.

1207
01:05:35,920 --> 01:05:38,640
Speaker 1: And so it's nice to get reassurance. And so I

1208
01:05:38,640 --> 01:05:41,960
Speaker 1: want to thank them all for the reassurance. And I

1209
01:05:42,000 --> 01:05:44,240
Speaker 1: want them just to you know, keep up with me

1210
01:05:44,440 --> 01:05:48,800
Speaker 1: and play animal crossing with me, and also make sure

1211
01:05:48,800 --> 01:05:51,240
Speaker 1: that they take time to love themselves as much as

1212
01:05:51,280 --> 01:05:53,840
Speaker 1: they love me and the love the people around them.

1213
01:05:53,880 --> 01:05:57,160
Speaker 1: You know. I think that everybody needs a bit more

1214
01:05:57,240 --> 01:06:03,000
Speaker 1: love right now. And yeah, but especially of mhm, thanks Tommy.

1215
01:06:03,720 --> 01:06:08,240
Speaker 1: Al Right, every ready for rapid fire m hmm. Okay,

1216
01:06:10,080 --> 01:06:14,000
Speaker 1: I'm gonna start out with talking about your Instagram name,

1217
01:06:14,200 --> 01:06:17,360
Speaker 1: Demi not Lovado. I feel like more people know you

1218
01:06:17,520 --> 01:06:20,240
Speaker 1: as Demi not Lovado than Demi Burnett. And then Demi

1219
01:06:20,320 --> 01:06:22,880
Speaker 1: Levado ends up becoming a good friend of yours. Can

1220
01:06:23,000 --> 01:06:28,720
Speaker 1: you describe your friendship with Demi Lvado in two words? Um?

1221
01:06:29,560 --> 01:06:38,040
Speaker 1: Oh gosh, let's see, my friendship with Demi Lavado wholesome

1222
01:06:40,080 --> 01:06:42,800
Speaker 1: fun and it was just because she was a fan

1223
01:06:42,880 --> 01:06:45,400
Speaker 1: of the show, right, and she like wanted to date Mike,

1224
01:06:45,640 --> 01:06:47,760
Speaker 1: and then she just kind of got chummy with you

1225
01:06:47,840 --> 01:06:50,840
Speaker 1: guys from that season. Yeah, and then we just started

1226
01:06:50,880 --> 01:06:53,200
Speaker 1: hanging out, Like me and Hannah went over there, and

1227
01:06:53,280 --> 01:06:55,919
Speaker 1: then I just started going over there more often hanging

1228
01:06:55,960 --> 01:06:58,800
Speaker 1: out with her. Then we went camping together. Uh, so

1229
01:06:59,000 --> 01:07:01,080
Speaker 1: we all got really close going camping, and like we've

1230
01:07:01,120 --> 01:07:04,040
Speaker 1: had like cool like you know, like healing things and

1231
01:07:04,120 --> 01:07:07,160
Speaker 1: stuff at our house. Like it's really it's really wholesome

1232
01:07:07,280 --> 01:07:10,440
Speaker 1: and it's uh, it's good energy. What's your favorite ice

1233
01:07:10,480 --> 01:07:15,360
Speaker 1: cream flavor? Strawberry? Interesting. What is your favorite TV show

1234
01:07:17,240 --> 01:07:20,200
Speaker 1: have all time? Game of Thrones? Uh, the most beautiful,

1235
01:07:20,240 --> 01:07:24,520
Speaker 1: complex storyline. I love it. What's your favorite physical feature

1236
01:07:24,520 --> 01:07:28,320
Speaker 1: of Slater his body, Oh my gosh, and his smile.

1237
01:07:29,280 --> 01:07:37,600
Speaker 1: Your favorite scented body wash Dove coconut jasmine yea um.

1238
01:07:37,840 --> 01:07:42,480
Speaker 1: What are your thoughts of the quarantine crew? Uh? Oh,

1239
01:07:42,600 --> 01:07:46,000
Speaker 1: Hannah and Tyler and all them looks like they're having

1240
01:07:46,040 --> 01:07:50,320
Speaker 1: a blast. Also feels like this, you know, like the

1241
01:07:50,600 --> 01:07:53,400
Speaker 1: random strangers that like nobody knows who they are. I'm

1242
01:07:53,480 --> 01:07:58,160
Speaker 1: like they are I'm I'm thinking they're cloud Chaser's. They're like, oh,

1243
01:07:58,320 --> 01:08:01,200
Speaker 1: we've got to get these TikTok's going out now. I've

1244
01:08:01,240 --> 01:08:03,080
Speaker 1: got a hand of Brownie Tyler Cameron in the house.

1245
01:08:03,160 --> 01:08:07,600
Speaker 1: Let me ride that cloud train. That's funny. And lastly,

1246
01:08:07,760 --> 01:08:13,840
Speaker 1: what is your favorite beauty product? Mm hmmm, probably lip gloss,

1247
01:08:14,200 --> 01:08:18,320
Speaker 1: like lipstick lip gloss brand. Um. So what I like

1248
01:08:18,439 --> 01:08:21,439
Speaker 1: to do is I like to take this Gnars lipstick

1249
01:08:21,479 --> 01:08:24,040
Speaker 1: in the color and the shade Barbara, and I like

1250
01:08:24,200 --> 01:08:27,639
Speaker 1: just this is just like every every five, like every hour.

1251
01:08:27,760 --> 01:08:29,320
Speaker 1: I do this pretty much because I hate whenever my

1252
01:08:29,360 --> 01:08:31,240
Speaker 1: lips have like no color on them, you know. So

1253
01:08:31,320 --> 01:08:33,880
Speaker 1: I just barely dab it like on there, and then

1254
01:08:33,960 --> 01:08:35,560
Speaker 1: I take a lip gloss and it can literally be

1255
01:08:35,640 --> 01:08:37,639
Speaker 1: any lip glass that I have, like live lip oils,

1256
01:08:37,640 --> 01:08:39,840
Speaker 1: They've got cheap stuff like anything, just to like put

1257
01:08:39,880 --> 01:08:43,240
Speaker 1: a little shine gloss on there and it looks like

1258
01:08:43,800 --> 01:08:49,160
Speaker 1: slightly natural, but it definitely makes it look so my

1259
01:08:49,280 --> 01:08:53,720
Speaker 1: lips aren't dead perfect. Well, thank you so much, Demi. Yeah,

1260
01:08:53,800 --> 01:08:56,439
Speaker 1: this in depth podcast was amazing. We truly got to

1261
01:08:56,560 --> 01:09:00,840
Speaker 1: know you so much better. I'm was really nice, guys.

1262
01:09:00,880 --> 01:09:05,080
Speaker 1: It was very therapeutic. Oh good, that's what we love hearing. Yeah,

1263
01:09:05,080 --> 01:09:09,280
Speaker 1: it's like I just went to therapy. Thanks. I mean

1264
01:09:09,320 --> 01:09:12,320
Speaker 1: this was this was great. Um as actually said thank you.

1265
01:09:12,479 --> 01:09:16,160
Speaker 1: So hey, follow um, follow the lead here. Let's see

1266
01:09:16,160 --> 01:09:17,920
Speaker 1: if we can do this right. Sometimes people get it

1267
01:09:18,000 --> 01:09:20,519
Speaker 1: sometimes not just follow Ashley and I'm we did every time.

1268
01:09:20,640 --> 01:09:23,880
Speaker 1: This has been the almost Famous in Depth podcast with

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Speaker 1: our one of our favorite Bachelor Nation contestants, Demi Burnett.

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Speaker 1: We'll be back again very soon with another in depth. UM.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, Ashley, what do you think next two weeks?

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Speaker 1: We should try to come out with another next month?

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Speaker 1: Are you thinking within? I would say within two weeks

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Speaker 1: we should have another in depth. That's awesome. Hey, well

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Speaker 1: with that, Demi has actually said you were awesome. I've

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Speaker 1: been Ben, I've been Ashley. I've been Demi. We'll talk

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Speaker 1: you later, guys. She's been on the show before. She

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