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Speaker 1: the general from the Houston Chronicle. General. Good evening, and

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Speaker 1: I enjoyed your story about all the players who are

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Speaker 1: Good evening, and how you doing. I'm new great, and

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Speaker 1: The key for what the union's trying to do. Of course,

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Speaker 1: very much as always, and I'll jump on my life

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Speaker 1: later because I've taken to any chances. I have heard

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Speaker 1: second one. Maybe that means the second one will be

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Speaker 1: free and clear. I don't know, but I'm not going

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Speaker 1: to take any chances. It's the draft darning. We all

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Speaker 1: and we'll have full coverage all throughout the entire draft,

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Speaker 1: including all day Saturday. Nick Kisserio visits us after every

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Speaker 1: day the Texans pick, So you want to tune in

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Speaker 1: to hear that exclusively right here, and it's gonna be cool, Johnny.

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Speaker 1: You ready to play quarterback Villains? Yes? All right, So

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Speaker 1: here we go. Okay, all right, Quarterback Villains of the

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Speaker 1: Houston Texans. I tweeted this own. I had a lot

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Speaker 1: of I had a lot of response to this, some

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Speaker 1: of it some people didn't want to go public with it.

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Speaker 1: They had thoughts though, Yeah, and look I already know

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Speaker 1: because I'm the authority here. I'm just gonna declare that

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Speaker 1: right now. I am the judge and the jury here

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Speaker 1: on quarterback villains for your Houston Texans. And I know

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Speaker 1: the number one all time quarterback villain is somebody said

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Speaker 1: it was Brady. It's not okay, now, I don't you know,

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Speaker 1: I'd love to go like five? Is this? Four? Is that?

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Speaker 1: I think that it's too difficult to do it with

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Speaker 1: this kind of list? Are you with me? You almost

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Speaker 1: have to just settle it right away and say who's

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Speaker 1: the most you know, let's just do the top three.

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Speaker 1: But you know, it's kind of like the Miss America.

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Speaker 1: The runner up is and you know who won the contest. Right,

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Speaker 1: I can give you the runner up and then you're

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Speaker 1: gonna know who wins the contest. Do you think that's

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Speaker 1: a fair way to do this? Okay, sure, I'm followed along. Yeah, okay,

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Speaker 1: you're following along. Well, I'm gonna give you some candidates

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Speaker 1: here though. Okay, you're the candidates. Oh okay, so you're

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Speaker 1: giving me the candidates, and I'll give you in no

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Speaker 1: particular order. These are candidates who belong on the all

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Speaker 1: time quarterback Villain list. I did not include Patrick Holmes

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Speaker 1: because I just think the body of work is not

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Speaker 1: significant enough, not yet, even though he did win that

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Speaker 1: very painful playoff game, right, even though he was the

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Speaker 1: guy at the helm for that. You've beaten him once there, Okay,

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Speaker 1: you lost him again on opening night twenty twenty. But

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Speaker 1: I still think, what is it three games total? Is

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Speaker 1: it three starts? Yeah, that's it. Yeah, one on one

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Speaker 1: in nineteen and owen one against him in twenty twenty. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm with you on that one. I'm not I'm not

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Speaker 1: ready to I'm not ready to go to that spot yet.

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Speaker 1: He's not on the list yet, correct, not on the list. However,

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Speaker 1: there is a quarterback with three starts who is on

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Speaker 1: the list, and I'll get to him in a moment um.

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Speaker 1: Andrew luck is on the list of all time Texan

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Speaker 1: villain quarterbacks. He definitely, He's not number one, but he

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Speaker 1: definitely is on the list. Folks. I hated facing him.

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Speaker 1: I hated it every single You just win, Oh my god.

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Speaker 1: Even in eighteen when we went up there for Week four,

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Speaker 1: the game we won thirty six, thirty four and overtime.

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Speaker 1: It's twenty eight ten and you're like, I remember thinking, ah, man,

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Speaker 1: he you know, it's Andrew Luck coming off the shoulder surgery.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, man, he just started throwing something bigger

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Speaker 1: than a NERF football, like seven eight weeks ago. I

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Speaker 1: don't know that he can. Oh god, oh he's gonna

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Speaker 1: do it. Oh my gosh, he's doing it. And it

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Speaker 1: was just it was oh and every game was like

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Speaker 1: every game, even games we beat them in sixteen, it

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Speaker 1: was like, oh, he's gonna find a way, and yeah

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Speaker 1: he didn't. It was just shocking. Yeah, Andrew Luck, Yes, yeah,

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Speaker 1: he's on the list. I mean, look, twenty twelve regular

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Speaker 1: season finale, rookie season for him, and you go up

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Speaker 1: there and if you win the game, you are in

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Speaker 1: possession of home field advantage throughout the playoffs, despite the

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Speaker 1: fact that you just lost to a Christian ponder of

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Speaker 1: the Vikings. All you had to do was go up

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Speaker 1: there and I had to win for the first time

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Speaker 1: ever up there at the time. But you were playing

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Speaker 1: Andrew Luck, come on, get it done. He's a rookie.

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Speaker 1: You just beat him a few weeks before. Do it.

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Speaker 1: And they didn't do it, and that was really hurtful.

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Speaker 1: And of course the playoff loss here was just excruciating,

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Speaker 1: and all the other ones don't make me recap them all,

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Speaker 1: but yeah, he's definitely on the list. Okay, here's a

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Speaker 1: quarterback that doesn't have a big body of work against

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Speaker 1: the Texans, but he's an all time Texans villa and

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Speaker 1: that would be vy and I put him on the list, Johnny,

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Speaker 1: because even though Steve McNair did more damage against the

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Speaker 1: Texans as a Tennessee Titans QB, and maybe he does

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Speaker 1: deserve a space in the top five. Perhaps Steve McNair

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Speaker 1: are close to it. The v y thirty nine yard

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Speaker 1: running overtime, which we just talked about yesterday or the

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Speaker 1: day before, was so painful, and that Monday nighter that

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Speaker 1: he won in oh nine was so painful, and considering

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Speaker 1: who he was and where he's from and the dialogue

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Speaker 1: leading up to the draft and everything else involved in

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Speaker 1: the fact that it's the Titans, I just think he

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Speaker 1: has a space. He has a place on this list

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Speaker 1: of all time Texans quarterback villains. Your thoughts, I one

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Speaker 1: thousand percent agree. There's no doubt a Houstonian that becomes

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Speaker 1: a two time a year opponent with you know, a

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Speaker 1: little bit of a burnous saddle about how everything went down,

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Speaker 1: and then the very first game he does what he did.

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Speaker 1: It's you, there's no question. And how about the fact

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Speaker 1: that both of them are Houstonians that you started with? Thanks, Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's a good point. I mean, luck, we sometimes forget

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Speaker 1: that he went to Stratford High School and all of that,

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Speaker 1: and we know his dad and we mentioned that almost

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Speaker 1: every time we talk about him. Johnny, I mentioned Alex

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Speaker 1: Smith in the first segment, and the general really dismissed

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Speaker 1: me quickly. I wrote my piece yesterday with the Houston

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Speaker 1: Texans non division quarterback appearances against the Texans. Brady is

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Speaker 1: clearly number one, but Smith and Joe Flacco are tied

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Speaker 1: for number two all times against the Texans all time. Now,

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Speaker 1: Smith might not really belong on this list, but he

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Speaker 1: kind of has a sneaky honorable mentioned spot because of

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Speaker 1: some of the things I just listed, I mean, and

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Speaker 1: it's kind of like his whole career, not a lot

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Speaker 1: of fanfare, some solid stuff here. You might not even

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Speaker 1: notice it, but it's there and it's effective. The seventeen

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Speaker 1: sixteen win by the Chiefs and thirteen and keys Keendom's

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Speaker 1: first start Keenom put up better numbers that David Smith

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Speaker 1: won the game, the Reggie Bush Bowl that we talked about,

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Speaker 1: and he does it with different teams in different ways.

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Speaker 1: And obviously the playoff win that the Chiefs had here

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Speaker 1: twenty fifteen and the opening day win they had in

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Speaker 1: twenty fifteen bookend victories for the Chiefs in that otherwise

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Speaker 1: fruitful season when the Texans started two and five and

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Speaker 1: won the division. But man, the Chiefs began it and

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Speaker 1: ended it with Kansas City wins, and that was painful,

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Speaker 1: and it was engineered by Alex Smith. I think he

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Speaker 1: deserves at least an honorable mention. When you mentioned Flacco

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Speaker 1: and Alex Smith. You mentioned Flacco, I'm like, Okay, you

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Speaker 1: met Alex Smith. I'm like, oh, because I think of

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Speaker 1: the same thing. I'm like the run from thirteen to

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Speaker 1: fifteen and fifteen twice, yeah, then to seven. Now we

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Speaker 1: beat him in sixteen and then Sunday Night, which the

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Speaker 1: Sunday Night game in twenty seventeen against Kansas City is

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Speaker 1: one of the like all time wildest nights of emotional

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Speaker 1: up and down with Alex Smith doing his thing wit

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Speaker 1: getting hurt JJ getting hurt a few plays later, the

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Speaker 1: Texans getting kicked in a tea Tyreek runs went back,

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Speaker 1: but then the offense gets it going, you know, shot

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Speaker 1: stoning bombs and it's going crazy, and then you get

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Speaker 1: within a score and it was just I remember after

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Speaker 1: that game being exhausted and then going, oh my god,

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Speaker 1: we lost wit and JJA, Oh my god, what's gonna

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Speaker 1: happen that that came was but Alex Smith that night.

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Speaker 1: That was the best I ever remember seeing Alex Smith

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Speaker 1: was that night against US. He had been really good

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Speaker 1: the first four games to that point. That night against US,

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Speaker 1: he was phenomenally good. And I remember afterwards there there

617
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Speaker 1: was some places they were like, oh, he should be

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Speaker 1: an MVP consideration and he didn't get there the rest

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Speaker 1: of the year. But man, I agree, he definitely needs

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Speaker 1: he deserves consideration. For sure. He wasn't the one that

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Speaker 1: scared me more than Luck or if you why or anything,

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Speaker 1: but man, when I when you would see him on

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Speaker 1: the schedule, to be like, oh, if I had to

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Speaker 1: choose between him or Flacco, I choose Alex Smith ten

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Speaker 1: times out of ten? Is there anybody else other than yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know who? The top two guys are here in

627
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Speaker 1: terms of all time Texans quarterback villains. Is there anybody

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Speaker 1: else who belongs on this list that I'm not thinking of?

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Speaker 1: I mentioned Steve McNair, Okay, anybody else in the division.

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Speaker 1: I don't think anybody else has enough body of work yet,

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Speaker 1: like a Ryan Tannehill, you know, nobody like that? Come on,

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Speaker 1: I mean, the Alex Smith won makes sense because there

633
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Speaker 1: was like you mentioned, there was a time where we

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Speaker 1: were matching up with that particular team every single year.

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Speaker 1: And then obviously Brady was that way because we were

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Speaker 1: matching up with them nearly every single year. And then

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Speaker 1: when it wasn't because we both finished first in division,

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00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:15,759
Speaker 1: it was because it was our year in the rotation

639
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Speaker 1: to play them. So um yeah, es um, not enough appearances,

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Speaker 1: but I'll tell you enough appearances. But I'll you know

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00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:30,799
Speaker 1: that game in twenty fifteen sort of, I don't know

642
00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:33,880
Speaker 1: what it was. And listen, you know I'm the biggest

643
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Speaker 1: Drew Brees supporter there is. I love Drew. I've always

644
00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:40,280
Speaker 1: felt like Drew's been under Radio's entire career. However, because

645
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Speaker 1: of what we did to them in twenty fifteen at

646
00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:47,560
Speaker 1: our place, I didn't fear them as much, especially in

647
00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:49,160
Speaker 1: twenty nineteen. I was like, this is gonna be a

648
00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:52,960
Speaker 1: tough game. But I didn't fear him as much as

649
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Speaker 1: the environment and Chamea and Michael Thomas. I think I

650
00:35:57,719 --> 00:36:00,840
Speaker 1: feared them when I did Drew, So I don't I

651
00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:03,000
Speaker 1: wouldn't put Drew quite on that list. I think his

652
00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:05,840
Speaker 1: superiority in some sense was taken down a notch or

653
00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:08,320
Speaker 1: two when we held up without a touchdown at twenty fifteen.

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00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:11,120
Speaker 1: Well Drew Brees on the road undefeated against the Texans

655
00:36:11,120 --> 00:36:15,040
Speaker 1: even as a Chargers starter in two thousand and two, Yeah,

656
00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:18,520
Speaker 1: Week two and nair needs to be on there, Mark,

657
00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:22,200
Speaker 1: I think I think Steve McNair is a guy I

658
00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:25,160
Speaker 1: would you know, I agree with you, why, no doubt.

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Speaker 1: But I also I also think Steve McNair being on

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Speaker 1: that list as well, obviously starting when he was you know,

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Speaker 1: with the Oilers and finally getting a shot when he

662
00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:36,080
Speaker 1: was with the Titans up in Tennessee. But I would

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Speaker 1: probably put McNair in the list. I think he's the

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Speaker 1: only other one to me that that stands out like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: he needs he needs to be on that list. I

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Speaker 1: don't know. Oh, oh, Martin hold on, Well give it

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Speaker 1: to me. Yeah, yeah, go with me on this, okay,

668
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Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers. Yeah, well, think about twelve, sixteen, and twenty

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Speaker 1: have been just got awful. And in twenty and sixteen,

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry, in twenty and twelve at our place, he

671
00:37:09,160 --> 00:37:13,880
Speaker 1: just just lights. In twenty sixteen he can't even walk

672
00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:16,839
Speaker 1: and he beats us in the snow, I would say,

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Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers, I mean it's three now. We beat him

674
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Speaker 1: in oh eight, but three to the last. The last

675
00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:24,880
Speaker 1: three times we've played them, it's almost not even been

676
00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:27,799
Speaker 1: close because of that guy. And Breeze. By the way,

677
00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:30,560
Speaker 1: you also beat him in oh seven at NRG Stadium,

678
00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:35,120
Speaker 1: so there was a victory there, but you know, more appearances,

679
00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:37,759
Speaker 1: and Breeze had some AFC with the Chargers. So yeah,

680
00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:40,400
Speaker 1: I don't know, but yeah, I'll throw Rogers in there.

681
00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:42,960
Speaker 1: Steve McNair when his first four starts against the Texans,

682
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Speaker 1: and then the Texans got two wins against Steve McNair

683
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Speaker 1: in two thousand and four somehow. But I'm gonna give

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Speaker 1: you the runner up, and the runner up is Thomas Brady.

685
00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:55,560
Speaker 1: He's the runner up all time Texans villain quarterback. Look,

686
00:37:55,719 --> 00:37:59,719
Speaker 1: he's been phenomenal two playoff victories against the Texans. We

687
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Speaker 1: all know what he's done. You're finally well, you beat

688
00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:05,919
Speaker 1: him in OH nine regular season finale, but look, he

689
00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:08,680
Speaker 1: was on the bench for two of those drives because

690
00:38:08,680 --> 00:38:11,520
Speaker 1: they didn't need the games. So that game always had

691
00:38:11,560 --> 00:38:13,520
Speaker 1: a little bit of an asterisk there, I hate to

692
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Speaker 1: admit that, but a tiny little one, maybe half an

693
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Speaker 1: asterisk there. But clearly in two thousand and nineteen, you know,

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Speaker 1: getting that Sunday Night win was huge, and you didn't

695
00:38:25,239 --> 00:38:26,960
Speaker 1: beat him this year, but you beat the Patriots, so

696
00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:31,319
Speaker 1: that was good. So two wins against Tom Brady in

697
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Speaker 1: your career, but he's number two and number one all

698
00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:39,479
Speaker 1: time quarterback villain against the Houston Texans is none other

699
00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:45,280
Speaker 1: than Peyton Manning, who was ridiculously good against the Texans

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Speaker 1: for so long as the Colts starter and then rubbed

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Speaker 1: it in now first appearance with the Broncos Week three,

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Speaker 1: two twelve. Texans get the win at Mile High, but

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00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:57,360
Speaker 1: ever since then, twenty thirteen sets they all time single

704
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Speaker 1: season touchdown pass record in your building and just rubs

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Speaker 1: it in in twenty thirteen, and it was just so

706
00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:08,520
Speaker 1: painful to watch. Peyton Manning was so terrific against the Texans,

707
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Speaker 1: and you did beat him a few times. He beat

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Speaker 1: him in OH six, you beat him in ten, and

709
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Speaker 1: you beat him in week three of twenty and twelve.

710
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Speaker 1: But that was it. The rest were victories for Peyton Manning,

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Speaker 1: and it hurt. Yeah, hear his name and I just

712
00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:25,920
Speaker 1: and I you know, I love I love Peyton. It's

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Speaker 1: probably the way I felt up a Larry Bird. When

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00:39:27,480 --> 00:39:29,640
Speaker 1: Larry Bird's playing, I was with the biggest fan at all.

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00:39:29,719 --> 00:39:33,480
Speaker 1: In fact, probably hated him, but I grew to appreciate him,

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00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:35,279
Speaker 1: and now I love Larry Bird. It's probably the same

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Speaker 1: with Peyton. And because he tortured the he tortured the

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Speaker 1: Texans the way he did. I just think my favorite

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00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:44,160
Speaker 1: story about Peyton Manning was in preseason when we went

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Speaker 1: there in twenty fourteen. We had practiced against him two

721
00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:49,040
Speaker 1: or three times that week. He got a little chippy.

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Speaker 1: On the final day we play him in the preseason

723
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Speaker 1: game and he throws a steam route for a touchdown

724
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Speaker 1: and he blines it over to DJ Sweringer and you

725
00:39:57,400 --> 00:40:01,239
Speaker 1: can see says something. So I find Swearinger in the

726
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Speaker 1: locker room afterwards, and I was like, yo, Swag, what

727
00:40:03,600 --> 00:40:06,040
Speaker 1: did he tell you? And he goes bleep you And

728
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Speaker 1: I was like, well, I've just asked the question. DJ

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Speaker 1: goes no, No No, he goes John, That's what he said

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Speaker 1: to me. A preceasing game. The third one, He's like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I don't know why he said it, but he just

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Speaker 1: know him. He was kind of like he took that

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Speaker 1: as a badge of honor. But I was like, man

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Speaker 1: Peyton Manning that that raises level, Like, okay, that was

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Speaker 1: all right. I don't know why he did it, but

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Speaker 1: I thought that was great. All right, time out here

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Speaker 1: and next up a little bit more from around the league.

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Speaker 1: of time very quickly here Johnny. Apparently the league only

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00:42:21,719 --> 00:42:26,080
Speaker 1: will allow five tryout players at rookie mini camps. This

767
00:42:26,239 --> 00:42:28,680
Speaker 1: is tough because these are the extra guys, not the

768
00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:32,760
Speaker 1: undrafted free agents. But they're really free in other words,

769
00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:34,839
Speaker 1: they don't even have a contract with the team yet,

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00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:37,480
Speaker 1: they're just trying out. But the Texans, I think Corey

771
00:42:37,560 --> 00:42:40,319
Speaker 1: Moore was one tryout player right once upon a time.

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00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:43,400
Speaker 1: Corey Moore was the one I think about when I

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00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:46,040
Speaker 1: think about trialut players who came on and did some

774
00:42:46,160 --> 00:42:48,680
Speaker 1: really nice things for this team in the couple of

775
00:42:48,760 --> 00:42:53,000
Speaker 1: years that he was here. So there's there's always opportunity

776
00:42:53,160 --> 00:42:56,600
Speaker 1: with the tryout players. I'm not sure I care for

777
00:42:56,719 --> 00:42:58,880
Speaker 1: this one, but I kind of get it, yeah, that

778
00:42:59,160 --> 00:43:01,160
Speaker 1: there will be some some teams are like, look, we're

779
00:43:01,200 --> 00:43:03,719
Speaker 1: not gonna draft this guy, Let's see if we can

780
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Speaker 1: get him through the trial process because we haven't had

781
00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:07,239
Speaker 1: a chance to look at him, you know, So I

782
00:43:07,280 --> 00:43:10,880
Speaker 1: could I can see that sort of being abused in

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00:43:11,040 --> 00:43:14,560
Speaker 1: some way, shape or form by some crafty teams. But

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Speaker 1: I hate it that players might lose an opportunity from

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Speaker 1: that perspective, you know. The other one was Chris Thompson

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00:43:23,600 --> 00:43:27,320
Speaker 1: in twenty seventeen, Oh yeah, out of Florida made it

787
00:43:27,480 --> 00:43:29,840
Speaker 1: basically on special teams, and then that game against Tennessee

788
00:43:29,920 --> 00:43:33,839
Speaker 1: when all the receivers were we're nearly just we're dead.

789
00:43:34,320 --> 00:43:36,120
Speaker 1: He had to go out there and play wide receiver

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Speaker 1: and he and Hopkins were the only one and knew

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00:43:38,640 --> 00:43:41,960
Speaker 1: what we're going knew what was going on. So he

792
00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:45,360
Speaker 1: was another one that was a trial player. Yeah, how

793
00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:48,080
Speaker 1: about this one with the CFL delaying their season. They're

794
00:43:48,080 --> 00:43:49,719
Speaker 1: not going to start till August, which I think is

795
00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:52,600
Speaker 1: a huge mistake somehow. If you're the CFL, you have

796
00:43:52,760 --> 00:43:56,160
Speaker 1: to be playing in July because in July, that's your month, baby,

797
00:43:56,520 --> 00:44:00,600
Speaker 1: That's exclusive football for you that month. Now they're going

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Speaker 1: to delay the start of their season and play their

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Speaker 1: championship at December. And there's talk about them possibly doing something.

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00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:08,760
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's a full merger with the XFL,

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00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:11,320
Speaker 1: but maybe some cross pollination. I don't know how you

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00:44:11,480 --> 00:44:15,160
Speaker 1: do it rules wise. Quick thoughts on that. I wouldn't

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Speaker 1: mind seeing them merge. I mean, the two games are

804
00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:20,600
Speaker 1: so they're so incredibly different, so I think that would

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00:44:20,600 --> 00:44:23,120
Speaker 1: be that would be kind of tough. But if there's

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Speaker 1: something they can do maybe, I don't know, maybe some

807
00:44:25,840 --> 00:44:29,080
Speaker 1: kind of players sharing program. I just to give guys

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Speaker 1: opportunity to keep playing ball. That's all I really care

809
00:44:31,760 --> 00:44:35,120
Speaker 1: about for those guys. Johnny, what number would you wear

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00:44:35,280 --> 00:44:40,080
Speaker 1: now if you were a kid playing sports? My number

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Speaker 1: of college was twenty four, so that would that would

812
00:44:42,120 --> 00:44:44,840
Speaker 1: be my number. It was close to twenty three. I was.

813
00:44:45,160 --> 00:44:47,480
Speaker 1: I joked a little oli. I was a huge Jordan fan,

814
00:44:47,560 --> 00:44:50,400
Speaker 1: but I was a big Pistol Pete Merribitz fan. I

815
00:44:50,520 --> 00:44:53,960
Speaker 1: just loved the way he played basketball. I just loved

816
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Speaker 1: everything about him, and I read his book and as

817
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Speaker 1: a junior. So that's Pistol Pete was the reason I

818
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Speaker 1: wear twenty three. But you know, Jordan would have been.

819
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Speaker 1: But twenty four is my number in college. That's what

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00:45:02,320 --> 00:45:03,920
Speaker 1: I would go with. Now, how about you see I

821
00:45:04,560 --> 00:45:07,320
Speaker 1: always picked ten. If there's a number to pick and

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Speaker 1: people are thinking, oh, it's Hopkins, No, I picked ten

823
00:45:10,760 --> 00:45:14,640
Speaker 1: because it's Johnny Walton, the quarterback for the Boston Breakers

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00:45:14,719 --> 00:45:18,880
Speaker 1: in the USFL. And Walton, Yeah, Walton was a backup

825
00:45:18,960 --> 00:45:22,640
Speaker 1: for ron Jiwarski in Philadelphia. Like Walton, I loved him, Okay,

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Speaker 1: I really loved this quarterback and I always loved the number,

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Speaker 1: and I just thought it looked cool, so I always

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Speaker 1: stuck with that. Anyway, that's our show for tonight. I'm

829
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Speaker 1: sure everybody's got their own thoughts in their car, like

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00:45:33,320 --> 00:45:35,440
Speaker 1: I would pick number, and whatever it is for you,

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Speaker 1: I wish you could share it with us. But that's

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Speaker 1: all the time we have for today. Tomorrow, Johnny, We've

833
00:45:40,239 --> 00:45:42,200
Speaker 1: got a great show. We're gonna have Deep City and

834
00:45:42,239 --> 00:45:45,520
Speaker 1: Wade Smith talking Draft Day memories. Possibly justin rejoining us.

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Speaker 1: This could be really cool stuff. Not even possibly David

836
00:45:49,800 --> 00:45:53,000
Speaker 1: Fletcher wal As will join us. Oh my gosh, this

837
00:45:53,120 --> 00:45:54,960
Speaker 1: is gonna be a huge program tomorrow night at six.

838
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Speaker 1: Thank you Brandon for producing. Thank you Johnny and John

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Speaker 1: McLean up. A great night everybody, and go tex In.

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