1 00:00:09,080 --> 00:00:11,480 Speaker 1: What's up, guys? Welcome back to another episode of the 2 00:00:11,480 --> 00:00:13,720 Speaker 1: Mets Stuff podcast, and today come to you guys with 3 00:00:13,720 --> 00:00:17,800 Speaker 1: a special guest, Desha Thosar from Fox Sports formally from 4 00:00:17,880 --> 00:00:19,799 Speaker 1: the Mets Beat. Gonna talk about some of season, going 5 00:00:19,800 --> 00:00:21,440 Speaker 1: to talk about some winche of meetings. We gonna talk 6 00:00:21,440 --> 00:00:23,000 Speaker 1: about the Mets, can talk about the Yankees, go and 7 00:00:23,000 --> 00:00:25,160 Speaker 1: talk about a lot of stuff. But first, Desha, what's 8 00:00:25,200 --> 00:00:27,000 Speaker 1: going on? Thank you for coming on with us today. 9 00:00:27,360 --> 00:00:30,200 Speaker 2: That's up, of course, thanks for having me on totally. 10 00:00:30,240 --> 00:00:33,000 Speaker 1: So Winter meetings are coming up next week, you're going 11 00:00:33,080 --> 00:00:36,120 Speaker 1: to be there. What's the vibe right now around all 12 00:00:36,120 --> 00:00:38,240 Speaker 1: of Major League Baseball for the Winter meetings? Because we're 13 00:00:38,280 --> 00:00:41,120 Speaker 1: super just focused, dialed in, locked in and want soda 14 00:00:41,120 --> 00:00:43,479 Speaker 1: here in the Mets world. But is there anything else 15 00:00:43,520 --> 00:00:45,360 Speaker 1: going on to Winter Meetings besides want so that it 16 00:00:45,440 --> 00:00:46,959 Speaker 1: has anybody thinking at all? 17 00:00:47,680 --> 00:00:50,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, up until today the Golden of bat role, 18 00:00:50,840 --> 00:00:52,839 Speaker 2: I would have said it was just want Soto. But 19 00:00:53,280 --> 00:00:57,040 Speaker 2: now I'm definitely curious to get people's opinions, especially executives 20 00:00:57,080 --> 00:00:59,520 Speaker 2: and players, of how they feel about this. But in 21 00:00:59,600 --> 00:01:02,440 Speaker 2: terms of free agency, it's definitely all all about one 22 00:01:02,560 --> 00:01:05,600 Speaker 2: Sodo I like that the dates came out sort of 23 00:01:05,720 --> 00:01:08,520 Speaker 2: leading up to the Winter Meetings. That's different from at 24 00:01:08,600 --> 00:01:10,560 Speaker 2: least last year with Joel Tani it was kind of 25 00:01:10,800 --> 00:01:13,240 Speaker 2: we didn't know when he would sign already we have 26 00:01:13,280 --> 00:01:15,680 Speaker 2: an idea that Sodo's kind of getting down to the 27 00:01:15,720 --> 00:01:18,480 Speaker 2: wire now they said, reports have been the first week 28 00:01:18,520 --> 00:01:21,440 Speaker 2: of December, second week December. Of course, that lines up 29 00:01:21,480 --> 00:01:24,200 Speaker 2: right with the Winter Meetings, so hopefully it should be 30 00:01:24,640 --> 00:01:27,640 Speaker 2: Really the Soto sweep steakes really getting even kicked up 31 00:01:27,680 --> 00:01:29,200 Speaker 2: a notch would be really exciting. 32 00:01:29,240 --> 00:01:31,400 Speaker 3: I think, I know they mentioned that Wan Soto I 33 00:01:31,400 --> 00:01:33,160 Speaker 3: think is going to be at the Winter Meetings himself. 34 00:01:33,200 --> 00:01:35,800 Speaker 3: Is that something typical of a big player like that 35 00:01:35,880 --> 00:01:38,479 Speaker 3: during free agency? Is that more so like him almost 36 00:01:38,520 --> 00:01:40,800 Speaker 3: hinting that maybe a press conference could be coming during 37 00:01:40,840 --> 00:01:41,840 Speaker 3: that time for a signing. 38 00:01:42,520 --> 00:01:44,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was kind of. My thought was the second 39 00:01:44,840 --> 00:01:47,280 Speaker 2: one that already we have so many clues that it's 40 00:01:47,319 --> 00:01:49,920 Speaker 2: really coming down to the wire, that might as well 41 00:01:49,960 --> 00:01:52,080 Speaker 2: really roll him out with the team that he signs 42 00:01:52,120 --> 00:01:54,480 Speaker 2: with right then and there. I have seen it in 43 00:01:54,520 --> 00:01:57,920 Speaker 2: the past where players are already visiting teams where the 44 00:01:57,960 --> 00:02:01,440 Speaker 2: winter the Winter Meetings location is that venue of course, 45 00:02:01,720 --> 00:02:04,680 Speaker 2: this case, it's Dallas, so I'm not expecting really Soo 46 00:02:04,840 --> 00:02:07,800 Speaker 2: to go to the Texas Rangers. But yeah, it really 47 00:02:07,920 --> 00:02:10,000 Speaker 2: is a little bit uncommon. But in that same way, 48 00:02:10,040 --> 00:02:12,000 Speaker 2: if he's going to be there at all, then just 49 00:02:12,080 --> 00:02:15,200 Speaker 2: get the whole pop and circumstances going and get him 50 00:02:15,240 --> 00:02:18,000 Speaker 2: to sign and present with the press conference right there 51 00:02:18,080 --> 00:02:19,080 Speaker 2: makes the most sense to me. 52 00:02:19,720 --> 00:02:22,000 Speaker 1: What could that dynamic be like with a couple teams, 53 00:02:22,080 --> 00:02:24,280 Speaker 1: especially teams I probably don't like each other that much. 54 00:02:24,320 --> 00:02:26,960 Speaker 1: Between the Mets, Yankees and Red Sox all within the 55 00:02:27,040 --> 00:02:29,560 Speaker 1: same floor or combination of floors and conference rooms and 56 00:02:29,560 --> 00:02:31,400 Speaker 1: the same hotel building, where they all know that they're 57 00:02:31,760 --> 00:02:34,280 Speaker 1: kind of exchanging times meeting with Wan Solo, exchanging their 58 00:02:34,320 --> 00:02:35,040 Speaker 1: final offers. 59 00:02:35,760 --> 00:02:38,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, it's definitely great for Scott Borjis and Juan 60 00:02:38,360 --> 00:02:41,000 Speaker 2: Soto for all of these executives to be under the 61 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:43,600 Speaker 2: same roof. But at least in my experience, I mean, 62 00:02:43,639 --> 00:02:46,359 Speaker 2: these teams and executives really stick to their own groups, 63 00:02:46,400 --> 00:02:49,240 Speaker 2: their own people. They'll just kind of be suites in 64 00:02:49,320 --> 00:02:52,240 Speaker 2: the hotel where they have their own situation room so 65 00:02:52,360 --> 00:02:55,080 Speaker 2: to speak, lined up, and those are the meeting points. Whereas, 66 00:02:55,080 --> 00:02:57,320 Speaker 2: of course you know, there are offers going around all 67 00:02:57,360 --> 00:02:59,680 Speaker 2: of them around the building, so that just kind of 68 00:02:59,680 --> 00:03:03,640 Speaker 2: makes it convenient logically speaking. So not as much as 69 00:03:03,680 --> 00:03:06,560 Speaker 2: Oval David Stearns is not really going to have a 70 00:03:06,680 --> 00:03:08,960 Speaker 2: face to face with House Dian Berner and kind of 71 00:03:09,040 --> 00:03:11,240 Speaker 2: duke it out. That's that's not what's I went. Was 72 00:03:11,280 --> 00:03:15,160 Speaker 2: that exciting? Yeah, it would be great, but more so 73 00:03:15,240 --> 00:03:18,440 Speaker 2: it's it's just convenient, I think, to everybody under one roof. 74 00:03:18,480 --> 00:03:21,239 Speaker 2: But they definitely with Wan Soto, the stakes are high, 75 00:03:21,280 --> 00:03:23,200 Speaker 2: and that's what I like about this. With the two 76 00:03:23,280 --> 00:03:25,519 Speaker 2: New York teams going up against each other this way, 77 00:03:25,520 --> 00:03:28,400 Speaker 2: it's I think the first big star where they're going 78 00:03:28,440 --> 00:03:30,400 Speaker 2: to duke it out like this. I don't think it's 79 00:03:30,400 --> 00:03:31,640 Speaker 2: going to be the last. Of course. 80 00:03:32,040 --> 00:03:34,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, James obviously at the beginning said that, you know, 81 00:03:34,320 --> 00:03:37,360 Speaker 3: you speak Mets beat, You've covered Mets, Yankees, major League 82 00:03:37,400 --> 00:03:39,520 Speaker 3: Baseball just in general. Now, what do you think you 83 00:03:39,560 --> 00:03:42,920 Speaker 3: would do for the Mets Yankees dynamic if Sodo were 84 00:03:42,960 --> 00:03:44,480 Speaker 3: to pick the Mets over the Yankees. 85 00:03:45,200 --> 00:03:48,680 Speaker 2: Oh, I mean completely different. I don't think we've seen 86 00:03:48,840 --> 00:03:52,280 Speaker 2: anything like it already, going back to when the Dodgers 87 00:03:52,640 --> 00:03:55,160 Speaker 2: beat the Yankees, in the World Series, and then Dodgers 88 00:03:55,160 --> 00:03:59,560 Speaker 2: players on record publicly embarrassing the Yankees in that way 89 00:03:59,680 --> 00:04:02,960 Speaker 2: is just kind of stunning. That's that's what reporters. Those 90 00:04:02,960 --> 00:04:05,760 Speaker 2: are the questions we asked players, what did you think? 91 00:04:05,800 --> 00:04:07,800 Speaker 2: How easy was it to beat them? And most players 92 00:04:07,800 --> 00:04:10,200 Speaker 2: are like, I'm going to be respectful, not even go there. 93 00:04:10,360 --> 00:04:13,440 Speaker 2: The Dodgers are like sitting around a campfire, really going 94 00:04:13,480 --> 00:04:16,279 Speaker 2: after it. So in that way, the Yankees are already 95 00:04:16,560 --> 00:04:19,920 Speaker 2: right being made fun of in the industry. That's different. 96 00:04:20,040 --> 00:04:23,440 Speaker 2: They're the evil Empire Yankees. Now, if Sodo goes to 97 00:04:23,480 --> 00:04:25,799 Speaker 2: the Mets and it is by some sort of deal 98 00:04:25,880 --> 00:04:29,040 Speaker 2: that the Yankees could have accomplished, it's really just up 99 00:04:29,080 --> 00:04:31,760 Speaker 2: the anti fifty million or one hundred million, something in 100 00:04:31,800 --> 00:04:35,640 Speaker 2: the range. That wouldn't be outrageous without Steve Cohen completely 101 00:04:35,640 --> 00:04:38,640 Speaker 2: blowing the lid off. I think that would really really 102 00:04:38,720 --> 00:04:41,320 Speaker 2: change the dynamic in New York in terms of who 103 00:04:41,400 --> 00:04:43,719 Speaker 2: is the top dog. What did the Mets do to 104 00:04:43,839 --> 00:04:46,960 Speaker 2: convince Sodo to go to the Mets over Yankees, a 105 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:49,360 Speaker 2: franchise obviously that not only did he just play for, 106 00:04:49,520 --> 00:04:53,359 Speaker 2: but is beloved in history. So I think again, I 107 00:04:53,360 --> 00:04:55,719 Speaker 2: don't know if that will happen, But if it does, 108 00:04:55,839 --> 00:04:58,159 Speaker 2: I think we don't even know really what the other 109 00:04:58,240 --> 00:05:01,480 Speaker 2: side of that will look like. And until it does happen. 110 00:05:02,200 --> 00:05:04,400 Speaker 1: Spending being based in New York and spending a lot 111 00:05:04,400 --> 00:05:06,240 Speaker 1: of time, a lot of time with both of these 112 00:05:06,279 --> 00:05:09,919 Speaker 1: teams this season, did you feel any kind of divergence 113 00:05:09,960 --> 00:05:12,000 Speaker 1: and vibe or any kind of weird thing happening between 114 00:05:12,000 --> 00:05:14,120 Speaker 1: their playoff runs between the regular season now going to 115 00:05:14,160 --> 00:05:16,359 Speaker 1: the offseason with like the Yankees kind of have this 116 00:05:16,400 --> 00:05:18,360 Speaker 1: prize where they can wash away a lot of embarrassment, 117 00:05:18,400 --> 00:05:20,039 Speaker 1: like you just said, but did you just feel any 118 00:05:20,320 --> 00:05:22,800 Speaker 1: kind of differences internally between spending a lot of time 119 00:05:22,839 --> 00:05:24,159 Speaker 1: with these teams during the season. 120 00:05:24,800 --> 00:05:27,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm glad you asked that, honestly, because it's not 121 00:05:27,920 --> 00:05:29,839 Speaker 2: a question that I got, but it is one that 122 00:05:29,920 --> 00:05:33,839 Speaker 2: I noticed in covering the playoffs between these two teams. 123 00:05:33,880 --> 00:05:36,080 Speaker 2: Of course, Mets go all the way to the NLCS 124 00:05:36,760 --> 00:05:39,720 Speaker 2: that was huge. I mean even just the energy surrounding 125 00:05:39,800 --> 00:05:43,000 Speaker 2: City Field because it doesn't happen as often too as 126 00:05:43,040 --> 00:05:46,679 Speaker 2: the Yankees. But leading up to the playoffs, the Yankees 127 00:05:46,680 --> 00:05:49,280 Speaker 2: were not in that same position where they had that 128 00:05:49,320 --> 00:05:52,440 Speaker 2: momentum on their side, they had fun. They had the 129 00:05:52,480 --> 00:05:55,680 Speaker 2: city behind them. When there's Grimace on subway cars and 130 00:05:55,920 --> 00:05:58,840 Speaker 2: Grimace in Times Square, like it kind of already was 131 00:05:58,880 --> 00:06:01,360 Speaker 2: all right, the Mets are kind of dominating right now 132 00:06:01,400 --> 00:06:04,120 Speaker 2: in terms of culture, and that was just the background, 133 00:06:04,360 --> 00:06:06,479 Speaker 2: not even in the clubhouse yet, and then once you 134 00:06:06,520 --> 00:06:09,440 Speaker 2: get in, it was a fully different vibe. The Mets 135 00:06:09,440 --> 00:06:13,159 Speaker 2: were completely relaxed and taking it sort of, Hey, we're 136 00:06:13,200 --> 00:06:15,440 Speaker 2: just lucky that we won this game. Let's see what happens. 137 00:06:15,640 --> 00:06:18,200 Speaker 2: Whereas with the Yankees, you could tell there was so 138 00:06:18,400 --> 00:06:22,280 Speaker 2: much pressure on their shoulders, with Aaron Judge struggling that 139 00:06:22,440 --> 00:06:25,120 Speaker 2: was a big storyline, Juan Soto, where is he gonna go? 140 00:06:25,480 --> 00:06:28,039 Speaker 2: It just felt like there was more of this dark 141 00:06:28,080 --> 00:06:31,360 Speaker 2: cloud covering the Yankees ron even though of course they 142 00:06:31,400 --> 00:06:33,680 Speaker 2: went all the way to the World Series, it didn't 143 00:06:33,720 --> 00:06:36,479 Speaker 2: have that aspect of the Mets kind of just going 144 00:06:36,520 --> 00:06:39,320 Speaker 2: on a whim, playing baseball for fun and doing it 145 00:06:39,360 --> 00:06:41,520 Speaker 2: that way. So, yeah, it's not a question I got, 146 00:06:41,520 --> 00:06:43,640 Speaker 2: but I'm glad you asked, because there's definitely a difference 147 00:06:43,640 --> 00:06:44,360 Speaker 2: that I saw. 148 00:06:44,560 --> 00:06:47,400 Speaker 3: Through your experience. We heard Aaron Judge say that he 149 00:06:47,400 --> 00:06:49,480 Speaker 3: really hasn't talked to want so too much this offseason. 150 00:06:49,520 --> 00:06:52,120 Speaker 3: I think he said almost at all. Does that feel weird? 151 00:06:52,560 --> 00:06:54,760 Speaker 3: I feel like from the fans perspective on the outside, 152 00:06:54,800 --> 00:06:56,520 Speaker 3: I'm like, how have you not talked to the guy 153 00:06:56,560 --> 00:06:58,440 Speaker 3: who is going to be the other best player on 154 00:06:58,480 --> 00:07:00,239 Speaker 3: your team to try and convince him to come back. 155 00:07:01,160 --> 00:07:03,960 Speaker 2: Yeah. My initial reaction was like kind of two things. 156 00:07:03,960 --> 00:07:06,039 Speaker 2: It's like, are you telling the truth? And I have 157 00:07:06,080 --> 00:07:08,200 Speaker 2: no reason to believe he's not. Aaron Judge is like 158 00:07:08,240 --> 00:07:11,200 Speaker 2: a fully kind of upfront guy like that, where if 159 00:07:11,200 --> 00:07:12,720 Speaker 2: he's going to stand in front of us and be 160 00:07:12,800 --> 00:07:14,680 Speaker 2: honest with the media, he's going to be honest with 161 00:07:14,720 --> 00:07:17,320 Speaker 2: the media. And that was kind of the sense that 162 00:07:17,400 --> 00:07:20,400 Speaker 2: I got from Judge before. So it was free agency 163 00:07:20,480 --> 00:07:22,920 Speaker 2: started when we asked him on the last day after 164 00:07:22,960 --> 00:07:25,000 Speaker 2: the Yankees were out of the season, out of the 165 00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:27,720 Speaker 2: World Series, he said, I'm just gonna kind of let 166 00:07:27,800 --> 00:07:30,360 Speaker 2: him take his time. I've been there, I know what 167 00:07:30,400 --> 00:07:33,480 Speaker 2: it's like. Let him enjoy it. Okay, fine, true from 168 00:07:33,480 --> 00:07:36,120 Speaker 2: a free agency standpoint, but don't you want this guy 169 00:07:36,160 --> 00:07:38,960 Speaker 2: on your team? Like it was like kind of yeah, 170 00:07:39,000 --> 00:07:41,160 Speaker 2: that was my reaction in terms of, all right, but 171 00:07:41,200 --> 00:07:42,600 Speaker 2: how much time are you going to give him like 172 00:07:42,640 --> 00:07:45,320 Speaker 2: you have the power right now, so maybe use it right, 173 00:07:45,400 --> 00:07:47,800 Speaker 2: Like if this is what do you actually what's the 174 00:07:47,920 --> 00:07:50,000 Speaker 2: risk here? Or that you're going to beg this guy 175 00:07:50,040 --> 00:07:52,840 Speaker 2: to come to the Bronx. Sure he'll remember you without it, right, 176 00:07:52,880 --> 00:07:55,840 Speaker 2: So I think he might need to be pushing more 177 00:07:55,880 --> 00:07:58,560 Speaker 2: than he's publicly letting on, or he doesn't want to 178 00:07:58,600 --> 00:08:01,120 Speaker 2: put it out there as the Yankees are so desperate 179 00:08:01,480 --> 00:08:05,119 Speaker 2: just we can't survive without Juan Soto that type of energy. 180 00:08:05,160 --> 00:08:07,600 Speaker 2: So it's kind of it was an interesting comment no 181 00:08:07,600 --> 00:08:09,559 Speaker 2: matter how you take it, right, no matter what anyone 182 00:08:09,640 --> 00:08:12,200 Speaker 2: says about Monsoda, we're gonna pick into it and go 183 00:08:12,240 --> 00:08:13,320 Speaker 2: into those tea leaves. 184 00:08:13,560 --> 00:08:15,880 Speaker 1: It's also funny because that was Jack supposed with TMZ 185 00:08:16,040 --> 00:08:18,720 Speaker 1: following Francisco Lindor through lax when they were rumored that 186 00:08:18,760 --> 00:08:20,160 Speaker 1: he was going to go to the meeting. But he's like, no, 187 00:08:20,200 --> 00:08:22,200 Speaker 1: I have a photo shoot with Oakley, and then David 188 00:08:22,320 --> 00:08:24,360 Speaker 1: Ortiz is openly saying like, yeah, I'm going to trying 189 00:08:24,360 --> 00:08:26,040 Speaker 1: and talk to one Soda as much as I possibly 190 00:08:26,040 --> 00:08:27,560 Speaker 1: can before he makes decision, because I want him to 191 00:08:27,560 --> 00:08:29,320 Speaker 1: come to Boston bath that badly. But that kind of 192 00:08:29,320 --> 00:08:31,760 Speaker 1: comes back to this regal Yankees thing that they have. 193 00:08:32,120 --> 00:08:34,280 Speaker 1: When you were in the media scrum after the World 194 00:08:34,360 --> 00:08:37,520 Speaker 1: Series ended and one solo says I'm open to all 195 00:08:37,559 --> 00:08:39,120 Speaker 1: thirty teams. Doesn't put the Yankee head on? 196 00:08:39,720 --> 00:08:39,959 Speaker 2: Did you? 197 00:08:40,200 --> 00:08:42,600 Speaker 1: Was there anything noticeable about the other players maybe around 198 00:08:42,679 --> 00:08:44,760 Speaker 1: or coaches or reporters, like, was that a shock, did 199 00:08:44,800 --> 00:08:46,240 Speaker 1: the air let out of the room or what was 200 00:08:46,280 --> 00:08:48,440 Speaker 1: the feeling around the team in that exact moment. 201 00:08:49,559 --> 00:08:51,800 Speaker 2: Definitely are on the team they when we got in, 202 00:08:51,920 --> 00:08:54,960 Speaker 2: Actually the Yankees let us in about forty five minutes 203 00:08:55,040 --> 00:08:58,320 Speaker 2: after we were supposed to be And there's a rule 204 00:08:58,320 --> 00:09:00,640 Speaker 2: at least in the CBA with writers just going after 205 00:09:00,720 --> 00:09:04,040 Speaker 2: ten minutes, So I was curious, what was that delay about? 206 00:09:04,080 --> 00:09:07,600 Speaker 2: What are we about to walk into? Guys were crying, 207 00:09:07,720 --> 00:09:10,480 Speaker 2: I mean hugging each other in tears. It was still 208 00:09:10,679 --> 00:09:13,600 Speaker 2: very emotional in there. So at that point that soda 209 00:09:13,640 --> 00:09:16,679 Speaker 2: stand in front of reporters and cameras, players were mostly 210 00:09:16,679 --> 00:09:19,640 Speaker 2: wrapping up. They seemed to know which direction this is 211 00:09:19,640 --> 00:09:22,640 Speaker 2: going to go. It did take me by surprise how 212 00:09:22,679 --> 00:09:26,680 Speaker 2: adamant Sodo was about not giving the Yankees any lane 213 00:09:26,800 --> 00:09:30,640 Speaker 2: at all. After multiple reporters including me gave him many 214 00:09:30,720 --> 00:09:33,760 Speaker 2: chances to kind of say, but the Yankees have an advantage, right, 215 00:09:33,800 --> 00:09:36,480 Speaker 2: you loved it here, what about the fans? And of 216 00:09:36,480 --> 00:09:38,199 Speaker 2: course now we know all of his answers, you're very 217 00:09:38,280 --> 00:09:41,560 Speaker 2: straight about now available to everyone. So I think in 218 00:09:41,679 --> 00:09:45,760 Speaker 2: that way, the tone with the players was already disappointment, 219 00:09:45,840 --> 00:09:49,559 Speaker 2: of course over losing, but no matter how the Yankees, 220 00:09:49,880 --> 00:09:53,559 Speaker 2: that World Series was really embarrassing, right. That was one 221 00:09:53,559 --> 00:09:57,000 Speaker 2: of those endings that we saw we haven't seen in years, right, 222 00:09:57,320 --> 00:10:00,120 Speaker 2: So that they're already dealing with that aspect of it 223 00:10:00,360 --> 00:10:02,719 Speaker 2: with the drop ball judge and that fifth inning, and 224 00:10:02,760 --> 00:10:05,440 Speaker 2: then on top of that they're dealing with great now 225 00:10:05,480 --> 00:10:07,560 Speaker 2: we might be on the verge of losing the guy 226 00:10:07,600 --> 00:10:10,040 Speaker 2: that got us here. So it was definitely a double whim, 227 00:10:10,080 --> 00:10:12,720 Speaker 2: you know, no matter how you kind of frame it. 228 00:10:12,760 --> 00:10:14,960 Speaker 2: And I think they were feeling that in the clubhouse, 229 00:10:15,040 --> 00:10:18,320 Speaker 2: of that sense of dread of what they're about to facing, 230 00:10:18,360 --> 00:10:21,439 Speaker 2: the optimism in the off season, with facing very little 231 00:10:21,440 --> 00:10:22,559 Speaker 2: optimism at that point. 232 00:10:23,080 --> 00:10:25,040 Speaker 3: The hot talk right now is Wan Soto and the 233 00:10:25,040 --> 00:10:27,559 Speaker 3: Red Sox. Everybody's linking them to the Red Sox. There's 234 00:10:27,559 --> 00:10:29,960 Speaker 3: obviously been all those crazy rumors and reports coming from 235 00:10:30,040 --> 00:10:32,360 Speaker 3: random people on Twitter. Take those all with a grain 236 00:10:32,400 --> 00:10:35,160 Speaker 3: of salt. Don't listen to them at all. Whatever. What 237 00:10:35,200 --> 00:10:36,840 Speaker 3: do you think about the Red Sox and Wan Soda? 238 00:10:36,920 --> 00:10:39,079 Speaker 3: Do you think that they're Do you think they could 239 00:10:39,080 --> 00:10:40,360 Speaker 3: be ahead of the Yankees? Do you think they could 240 00:10:40,360 --> 00:10:42,360 Speaker 3: be ahead of the Mets? What are you been hearing? 241 00:10:43,080 --> 00:10:45,240 Speaker 2: Yeah? I like that their name is in the mix. 242 00:10:45,360 --> 00:10:48,560 Speaker 2: I think they're one of those franchises, right David ortiz 243 00:10:48,600 --> 00:10:52,559 Speaker 2: Manny Ramirez. Of course SODA's going to respect that franchise, 244 00:10:52,600 --> 00:10:54,360 Speaker 2: so it makes sense for them to be one of 245 00:10:54,360 --> 00:10:57,680 Speaker 2: these top dogs. Personally, I'm not buying it until we 246 00:10:57,760 --> 00:11:00,440 Speaker 2: hear something other than oh, they were in the mix 247 00:11:00,480 --> 00:11:03,200 Speaker 2: on this player too. Actually we checked in too, and 248 00:11:03,240 --> 00:11:05,240 Speaker 2: now that today they went and yesterday when got a 249 00:11:05,280 --> 00:11:08,600 Speaker 2: ear oldest Chapman's now moving the leadle. Good luck with that. 250 00:11:08,760 --> 00:11:11,319 Speaker 2: So I think it's it's nice that they are one 251 00:11:11,320 --> 00:11:13,880 Speaker 2: of those storied franchises that are back in the mix, 252 00:11:14,000 --> 00:11:16,440 Speaker 2: as they should be. I think this is kind of 253 00:11:16,480 --> 00:11:19,480 Speaker 2: a low bar you're expecting the Red Sox to be in. 254 00:11:20,040 --> 00:11:23,679 Speaker 2: If they get it done, all props to Boston right now, 255 00:11:23,679 --> 00:11:26,280 Speaker 2: it's going to change completely the dynamic of what we've thought, 256 00:11:26,679 --> 00:11:28,360 Speaker 2: how this off season was going to go, how the 257 00:11:28,400 --> 00:11:30,880 Speaker 2: Al East will go, how they match up against the 258 00:11:30,960 --> 00:11:34,160 Speaker 2: Yankees going forward. All of that, of course, is up 259 00:11:34,160 --> 00:11:35,760 Speaker 2: in the air until they get it done. I think 260 00:11:36,080 --> 00:11:38,640 Speaker 2: expecting the Red Sox to be in is where they 261 00:11:38,640 --> 00:11:41,080 Speaker 2: should be, and that was a drop off of where 262 00:11:41,080 --> 00:11:43,760 Speaker 2: they've been the last three seasons. Now they're kind of 263 00:11:43,840 --> 00:11:46,120 Speaker 2: back into hey, we're we're in this to remember us, 264 00:11:46,160 --> 00:11:47,559 Speaker 2: and it's like, yeah, you should have been there the 265 00:11:47,559 --> 00:11:47,959 Speaker 2: whole time. 266 00:11:48,120 --> 00:11:51,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, him, Yeah, right the door. 267 00:11:53,360 --> 00:11:55,800 Speaker 1: Let's transport ourselves to a fancy world right now where 268 00:11:55,920 --> 00:11:58,280 Speaker 1: pretend want so with the Red Sox. Does happen? Oh 269 00:11:58,280 --> 00:12:01,040 Speaker 1: my god, Fronto's Red Sox fifteen years, forty five million 270 00:12:01,080 --> 00:12:01,319 Speaker 1: a year? 271 00:12:01,400 --> 00:12:01,720 Speaker 3: Wow? 272 00:12:02,200 --> 00:12:04,120 Speaker 1: How does each New York team, the Yankees and then 273 00:12:04,160 --> 00:12:06,520 Speaker 1: the Mets pivot? Where do you think they look next? 274 00:12:06,559 --> 00:12:08,760 Speaker 1: Where are you hearing anything that they other teams will 275 00:12:08,760 --> 00:12:10,319 Speaker 1: go for in terms of position, in terms of player, 276 00:12:10,320 --> 00:12:11,520 Speaker 1: in terms of money, anywhere. 277 00:12:12,240 --> 00:12:14,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, starting with the Yankees, because I think that's it's 278 00:12:14,640 --> 00:12:16,680 Speaker 2: going to be the toughest pill to swallow for them, 279 00:12:17,040 --> 00:12:19,559 Speaker 2: especially if Sodo goes to the Red Sox and they 280 00:12:19,559 --> 00:12:21,760 Speaker 2: have to deal with him in the same division. But 281 00:12:21,960 --> 00:12:24,080 Speaker 2: the question is, how do they still make it a 282 00:12:24,120 --> 00:12:27,960 Speaker 2: successful offseason? Right? What can they do to kind of 283 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:30,880 Speaker 2: still galvanize this fan base. Number One has to be 284 00:12:31,360 --> 00:12:34,160 Speaker 2: they were really close, right an offer for Sodo has 285 00:12:34,200 --> 00:12:36,520 Speaker 2: it they cannot cannot be a huge drop up. But 286 00:12:36,559 --> 00:12:38,760 Speaker 2: even beyond that, in terms of roster, they have to 287 00:12:38,800 --> 00:12:41,520 Speaker 2: look at who they can replace in right field. There 288 00:12:41,559 --> 00:12:43,680 Speaker 2: are some good names still out there. I like taosk 289 00:12:43,679 --> 00:12:46,120 Speaker 2: for Hernandez for them. But they can't just stop with 290 00:12:46,240 --> 00:12:49,920 Speaker 2: replacing the position of Soto because with Garrett Cole being 291 00:12:49,960 --> 00:12:53,040 Speaker 2: another year older John Carlos Stanton who was on fire 292 00:12:53,080 --> 00:12:55,160 Speaker 2: in October, he's also going to be in his age 293 00:12:55,200 --> 00:12:58,760 Speaker 2: thirty five season, their window is slightly closing and it 294 00:12:58,760 --> 00:13:02,240 Speaker 2: doesn't really get talked about enough. Even Judge he's he's judged, 295 00:13:02,240 --> 00:13:04,080 Speaker 2: so who knows how far he can actually go and 296 00:13:04,120 --> 00:13:06,800 Speaker 2: play like until he's forty five. But they have to 297 00:13:07,000 --> 00:13:09,079 Speaker 2: capitalize right away, so I think they have to go 298 00:13:09,480 --> 00:13:12,200 Speaker 2: into adding either a pe Alonzo or Christian Walker at 299 00:13:12,240 --> 00:13:15,040 Speaker 2: first base, which I think if they miss out on Sodo, 300 00:13:15,280 --> 00:13:18,320 Speaker 2: that splash of going for pee Alonzo taking him away 301 00:13:18,320 --> 00:13:21,400 Speaker 2: from the Mets would be somebody, right for a Yankee 302 00:13:21,480 --> 00:13:23,319 Speaker 2: fans to be like, all right, I think they can 303 00:13:23,400 --> 00:13:24,960 Speaker 2: live with that type of thing, and of course go 304 00:13:25,080 --> 00:13:27,520 Speaker 2: for one of the aces. There's still Corbin Burns left 305 00:13:27,800 --> 00:13:30,840 Speaker 2: on the market. There's Max Freed, who I like is 306 00:13:30,920 --> 00:13:32,800 Speaker 2: kind of going under the radar. One of those two. 307 00:13:32,800 --> 00:13:35,160 Speaker 2: They would have to add of all three to fill 308 00:13:35,200 --> 00:13:37,520 Speaker 2: those positions. And then as far as the Mets, I 309 00:13:37,520 --> 00:13:40,520 Speaker 2: don't think this hurts them as much. Right, they already 310 00:13:40,559 --> 00:13:42,839 Speaker 2: didn't have They were not planning on a Sodo the 311 00:13:42,880 --> 00:13:45,600 Speaker 2: way the Yankees already had him and he took them 312 00:13:45,640 --> 00:13:48,560 Speaker 2: to the World Series, whereas the Mets got far without 313 00:13:48,600 --> 00:13:51,720 Speaker 2: Sodo and with the pieces that they had built by 314 00:13:51,800 --> 00:13:54,240 Speaker 2: David Stearns and kind of working on the margins in 315 00:13:54,240 --> 00:13:57,000 Speaker 2: that way. Still the first priority for the Mets, of 316 00:13:57,000 --> 00:13:59,800 Speaker 2: course has to be pe Alonzo. I think it's interesting 317 00:13:59,840 --> 00:14:03,280 Speaker 2: that Pete is getting overshadowed by Soto. I mean right 318 00:14:03,400 --> 00:14:06,320 Speaker 2: rightfully so. But if he was any other free agency 319 00:14:06,480 --> 00:14:09,160 Speaker 2: p Alonso would be the star of the top season. 320 00:14:09,480 --> 00:14:12,080 Speaker 2: He would be the superstar taking up all the headlines. 321 00:14:12,120 --> 00:14:15,000 Speaker 2: So he's right there, he's sitting there for the Mets. Obviously, 322 00:14:15,040 --> 00:14:17,720 Speaker 2: Pete wants to be back. We know that the Mets 323 00:14:17,760 --> 00:14:19,880 Speaker 2: are now, of course, trying to come to a deal 324 00:14:19,920 --> 00:14:22,400 Speaker 2: that makes sense for both sides. They know him the best, 325 00:14:22,600 --> 00:14:25,760 Speaker 2: what's his future? And really I think it's interesting what 326 00:14:25,800 --> 00:14:29,240 Speaker 2: they're going to do with or without Pete at third 327 00:14:29,240 --> 00:14:32,479 Speaker 2: base and at second base? Do you run Jeff mcneilback 328 00:14:32,520 --> 00:14:34,880 Speaker 2: out there? Do you stick with Mark Biento's a third 329 00:14:35,320 --> 00:14:38,000 Speaker 2: He was serviceable, but is he's not a superstar, So 330 00:14:38,440 --> 00:14:41,400 Speaker 2: they have some room there to play around, depending on 331 00:14:41,440 --> 00:14:44,200 Speaker 2: how the off season, of course goes, first with Soto 332 00:14:44,320 --> 00:14:45,880 Speaker 2: and then Pete and take it from there. 333 00:14:46,120 --> 00:14:47,920 Speaker 3: Do you think the reason that we haven't really heard 334 00:14:48,000 --> 00:14:50,640 Speaker 3: much about almost any other free agent hitter, and especially 335 00:14:50,680 --> 00:14:53,880 Speaker 3: Pete Alonso, is just simply everybody's waiting for Sodo for. 336 00:14:53,960 --> 00:14:57,760 Speaker 2: Definitely Yeah, oh yeah, yeah. I think the market entirely 337 00:14:57,920 --> 00:15:00,840 Speaker 2: was resting on so too shoulders before the World Sters 338 00:15:00,920 --> 00:15:03,760 Speaker 2: was even over. It was they no team can really 339 00:15:03,840 --> 00:15:06,720 Speaker 2: move except for the Dodgers of Blake Snell, And that 340 00:15:06,840 --> 00:15:09,400 Speaker 2: I thought was interesting after too, that the Yankees had 341 00:15:09,400 --> 00:15:12,480 Speaker 2: a zoom with him that day, but they couldn't really 342 00:15:12,480 --> 00:15:15,080 Speaker 2: pull the trigger. They needed to wait on Sodo. So 343 00:15:15,480 --> 00:15:18,000 Speaker 2: if the market starts moving before soda, we're going to 344 00:15:18,000 --> 00:15:20,600 Speaker 2: see teams like the Yankees. Maybe the Mets kind of 345 00:15:20,680 --> 00:15:24,040 Speaker 2: miss out on some players just because they're really tied 346 00:15:24,120 --> 00:15:26,400 Speaker 2: up in how much is soda going to cost and 347 00:15:26,440 --> 00:15:29,080 Speaker 2: how much that will dictate the rest of their moves 348 00:15:29,120 --> 00:15:29,800 Speaker 2: this offseason. 349 00:15:30,320 --> 00:15:32,040 Speaker 1: Do you think that's the reason the Mets may have 350 00:15:32,160 --> 00:15:34,720 Speaker 1: jumped on Frankie Manzos seeming a little bit earlier than 351 00:15:34,800 --> 00:15:36,560 Speaker 1: some of the market moving, just to get a guy 352 00:15:36,600 --> 00:15:38,920 Speaker 1: in there while who's not going to affect their payroll 353 00:15:38,960 --> 00:15:40,440 Speaker 1: that much, but so the one on the table still. 354 00:15:40,880 --> 00:15:43,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that was a very classic David Sterns 355 00:15:43,480 --> 00:15:46,560 Speaker 2: move to me, even in the context of Soto being 356 00:15:47,040 --> 00:15:50,400 Speaker 2: SODO this offseason, I think David Stearns is able to 357 00:15:50,720 --> 00:15:53,800 Speaker 2: exactly like he did all your work on the margins 358 00:15:53,880 --> 00:15:56,920 Speaker 2: and not get too distracted by that big fish and 359 00:15:56,960 --> 00:15:59,640 Speaker 2: seeing an offer that makes sense, like very much like 360 00:15:59,640 --> 00:16:03,440 Speaker 2: Sean and Louis Severino last year, run it back right? 361 00:16:03,520 --> 00:16:05,800 Speaker 2: Why not? It worked out and it's not that much 362 00:16:05,840 --> 00:16:08,600 Speaker 2: of a risk when you're operating in Steve Cohen's neighborhood. 363 00:16:08,680 --> 00:16:11,160 Speaker 2: So either way, I think that's a deal with it happened. 364 00:16:11,160 --> 00:16:13,480 Speaker 2: Now if it happened in January. That's a smart move 365 00:16:13,520 --> 00:16:15,920 Speaker 2: for them. They have to shore up pictures either way, 366 00:16:16,600 --> 00:16:18,560 Speaker 2: so I like the timing of it, But of course 367 00:16:18,560 --> 00:16:20,720 Speaker 2: I don't think it really dictates whether or not they're 368 00:16:21,040 --> 00:16:23,240 Speaker 2: actually going after Soda or staying put there. 369 00:16:23,640 --> 00:16:25,560 Speaker 3: Do you think it has any effect on them for 370 00:16:25,600 --> 00:16:28,320 Speaker 3: the rest of the starting pitching market? Like it to us, 371 00:16:28,360 --> 00:16:31,440 Speaker 3: it at least feels like the Burns, the Freeds, those guys. 372 00:16:31,520 --> 00:16:33,960 Speaker 3: You kind of can't go after them either without want 373 00:16:34,040 --> 00:16:36,280 Speaker 3: Soto being knowing where he's going. So you think the 374 00:16:36,320 --> 00:16:37,840 Speaker 3: Mets will still be aggressive towards the top of the 375 00:16:37,880 --> 00:16:38,520 Speaker 3: pitching market. 376 00:16:39,080 --> 00:16:41,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think they'll definitely still be aggressive, but I think, 377 00:16:41,720 --> 00:16:44,120 Speaker 2: like you said, it does depend now on what the 378 00:16:44,160 --> 00:16:47,040 Speaker 2: Sodo situation will be and how much they're going to 379 00:16:47,080 --> 00:16:50,080 Speaker 2: allocate to him this season, And especially with the Blakes 380 00:16:50,080 --> 00:16:53,000 Speaker 2: now contract too and the Dodgers deferring contracts, I'm waiting 381 00:16:53,040 --> 00:16:56,000 Speaker 2: for another team like the Mets whoever to do it, 382 00:16:56,040 --> 00:16:58,600 Speaker 2: to kind of follow up there. So yeah, I think, 383 00:16:58,760 --> 00:17:01,160 Speaker 2: especially with the top dog the Corbyn Birds the Max 384 00:17:01,200 --> 00:17:03,840 Speaker 2: feeds in the market, you do have to wait a little. 385 00:17:03,880 --> 00:17:06,159 Speaker 2: I wasn't as surprised I think as other people with 386 00:17:06,200 --> 00:17:09,359 Speaker 2: that Frankie Montas deal, that's just what starters are earning now. 387 00:17:09,400 --> 00:17:11,600 Speaker 2: I think that's that's a good bar sort of to 388 00:17:11,640 --> 00:17:14,280 Speaker 2: go off of now. So I think they still should 389 00:17:14,320 --> 00:17:16,880 Speaker 2: absolutely be in. And I like that Mets fans are 390 00:17:16,960 --> 00:17:20,720 Speaker 2: right getting into that habit of some my money whatever, 391 00:17:20,880 --> 00:17:23,399 Speaker 2: like we'll go past the luxury task. Look, get Steve Cohen. 392 00:17:23,440 --> 00:17:25,960 Speaker 2: We're happy with what he's doing, and now there's David 393 00:17:25,960 --> 00:17:28,760 Speaker 2: Stearn's making the decision. So I think that should be 394 00:17:28,960 --> 00:17:31,440 Speaker 2: the new normal, if it isn't already for the Mets. 395 00:17:31,680 --> 00:17:33,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's normal for some fans. I think 396 00:17:33,359 --> 00:17:35,040 Speaker 1: Mets fans are still kind of split thinking that we 397 00:17:35,080 --> 00:17:37,119 Speaker 1: should sign every single lace and every single player or 398 00:17:37,160 --> 00:17:39,400 Speaker 1: YouTube video about Frankie Montis had about two hundred fifty 399 00:17:39,440 --> 00:17:41,919 Speaker 1: angry comments that we were dumpster diving and there's no 400 00:17:42,000 --> 00:17:43,920 Speaker 1: reason too, and that Steve Cohen was the same as 401 00:17:43,920 --> 00:17:46,600 Speaker 1: the Willpons. You were on the Mets beed from twenty 402 00:17:46,720 --> 00:17:48,720 Speaker 1: nineteen through twenty twenty two, so you happen to be 403 00:17:48,840 --> 00:17:52,119 Speaker 1: there in the middle of everything when the ownership changed hands. 404 00:17:52,560 --> 00:17:55,640 Speaker 1: What was it like watching that shift from as close 405 00:17:55,640 --> 00:17:57,879 Speaker 1: to the inside as someone on the asside could get 406 00:17:58,240 --> 00:17:58,920 Speaker 1: it was awesome. 407 00:17:59,000 --> 00:18:02,160 Speaker 2: I mean, I think, look back, whenever my career is done, 408 00:18:02,200 --> 00:18:04,800 Speaker 2: that's going to be one of the moments that I'm 409 00:18:04,840 --> 00:18:06,840 Speaker 2: most proud that I got to experience and be a 410 00:18:06,880 --> 00:18:09,679 Speaker 2: part of and get some reporting in there that was interesting. 411 00:18:09,680 --> 00:18:12,399 Speaker 2: I remember reporting on Bill de Blagio and how he 412 00:18:12,520 --> 00:18:15,639 Speaker 2: was trying to get all these laws in place just 413 00:18:15,680 --> 00:18:18,439 Speaker 2: to make it harder for Steve Cohen to buy the Mets, 414 00:18:18,480 --> 00:18:21,720 Speaker 2: and it's funny how petty it got at one point. 415 00:18:21,760 --> 00:18:24,320 Speaker 2: But overall, I think just being a part of that 416 00:18:24,440 --> 00:18:28,119 Speaker 2: ownership change and getting to know, of course the new ownership, 417 00:18:28,400 --> 00:18:30,920 Speaker 2: and getting to write a feature on Alex Cohen and 418 00:18:31,440 --> 00:18:33,560 Speaker 2: just getting to know her too as a person has 419 00:18:33,600 --> 00:18:38,080 Speaker 2: been awesome. I think that's really rare, not just for sports, 420 00:18:38,119 --> 00:18:42,359 Speaker 2: but especially in baseball, that that owners are so just 421 00:18:42,480 --> 00:18:45,160 Speaker 2: willing to be right in your face and normal about 422 00:18:45,200 --> 00:18:47,639 Speaker 2: it and just chat and it's not a big deal. 423 00:18:47,680 --> 00:18:50,600 Speaker 2: And that kind of in culture and environment that I've 424 00:18:50,640 --> 00:18:52,880 Speaker 2: got to see up close is something that I don't 425 00:18:52,880 --> 00:18:55,520 Speaker 2: take for granted, and I think that's really hard even 426 00:18:55,560 --> 00:18:58,000 Speaker 2: to mimic anywhere else in sports with it having that 427 00:18:58,080 --> 00:19:01,440 Speaker 2: authentic feel that that part to me is I think, 428 00:19:01,600 --> 00:19:04,840 Speaker 2: of course the biggest difference going from the woolpods to 429 00:19:05,600 --> 00:19:08,879 Speaker 2: the up in your face Cohen's who, like Grandpa Cohen 430 00:19:08,960 --> 00:19:12,880 Speaker 2: was getting champagne poured on him in the champagne celebrations 431 00:19:12,920 --> 00:19:16,000 Speaker 2: after they advance to the CS like, things like that 432 00:19:16,040 --> 00:19:18,159 Speaker 2: are just you have to take a step back and 433 00:19:18,200 --> 00:19:21,000 Speaker 2: be like wow. So that that's been really cool to 434 00:19:21,040 --> 00:19:21,639 Speaker 2: seal close. 435 00:19:21,880 --> 00:19:24,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, no, that that fans I think can also feel 436 00:19:24,359 --> 00:19:26,399 Speaker 3: the difference to not not just on the field, but 437 00:19:26,440 --> 00:19:28,840 Speaker 3: off the field of how this organization everything looks, and 438 00:19:28,880 --> 00:19:32,959 Speaker 3: it's it's very refreshing as lifetime lifelong Mets fans. Before 439 00:19:32,960 --> 00:19:34,760 Speaker 3: we let you go, you mentioned at the beginning the 440 00:19:34,840 --> 00:19:37,920 Speaker 3: golden at bat that is being floated around right now. 441 00:19:38,960 --> 00:19:39,800 Speaker 2: Is that real? 442 00:19:39,840 --> 00:19:42,480 Speaker 3: Because it's it's insane, and it's and it seems like 443 00:19:42,560 --> 00:19:45,119 Speaker 3: it's a terrible idea, but there's a lot of reporting 444 00:19:45,160 --> 00:19:45,960 Speaker 3: going on it right now. 445 00:19:46,680 --> 00:19:49,879 Speaker 2: It's definitely a terrible idea. I'm of the camp of 446 00:19:50,200 --> 00:19:53,560 Speaker 2: just the biggest, no things, hard to pass, get it 447 00:19:53,600 --> 00:19:55,800 Speaker 2: out of here. I do love that there are even 448 00:19:55,920 --> 00:19:59,480 Speaker 2: ideas being floated. I think we're overdue for just kind 449 00:19:59,480 --> 00:20:02,560 Speaker 2: of throwing things to the wall and seeing how people 450 00:20:02,640 --> 00:20:05,239 Speaker 2: react to it. This isn't a rule that's going in 451 00:20:05,280 --> 00:20:08,399 Speaker 2: place tomorrow. It's not coming into the major leagues next season. 452 00:20:08,760 --> 00:20:11,520 Speaker 2: It is simply just a talking point. So I think 453 00:20:11,680 --> 00:20:14,920 Speaker 2: in that realm, that's probably the only positive that came 454 00:20:15,000 --> 00:20:17,880 Speaker 2: out of the Gold in a role. But no, I'm 455 00:20:17,960 --> 00:20:20,359 Speaker 2: just really not a fan of it. I was surprised 456 00:20:20,359 --> 00:20:23,720 Speaker 2: in the Jason Stark article in The Athletic that players 457 00:20:23,760 --> 00:20:27,359 Speaker 2: were kind of lukewarm, maybe even okay with it. Of course, 458 00:20:27,359 --> 00:20:29,600 Speaker 2: it was presented in a way that's, let's start it 459 00:20:29,640 --> 00:20:31,720 Speaker 2: in the All Star Game. Okay, sure, the All Star 460 00:20:31,760 --> 00:20:34,520 Speaker 2: Game doesn't even count anymore anyway. It doesn't even decide 461 00:20:34,560 --> 00:20:38,000 Speaker 2: home field advantage like it used to. So fine, they're 462 00:20:38,440 --> 00:20:40,920 Speaker 2: why not do whatever you want in the All Star Game, 463 00:20:40,960 --> 00:20:45,800 Speaker 2: But when it comes to the real regulation, regular season playoffs, 464 00:20:45,800 --> 00:20:48,280 Speaker 2: it's just it cannot be a thing. I think it 465 00:20:48,320 --> 00:20:51,560 Speaker 2: completely takes away the concept that I think fans love 466 00:20:51,640 --> 00:20:54,679 Speaker 2: is right getting to know your team, including that twenty 467 00:20:54,680 --> 00:20:57,240 Speaker 2: six man on the roster who's just up at the 468 00:20:57,320 --> 00:20:59,679 Speaker 2: plate and the hardest, what is he going to do? 469 00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:02,600 Speaker 2: Surprise you. It's just going to take away that entire element. 470 00:21:02,920 --> 00:21:05,320 Speaker 2: It seems like a small thing that I think what 471 00:21:05,359 --> 00:21:08,280 Speaker 2: everyone points to with Shoyotani and Mike Trout going up 472 00:21:08,320 --> 00:21:11,440 Speaker 2: against each other in the World Baseball Classic. What made 473 00:21:11,440 --> 00:21:14,760 Speaker 2: that so special was it was organic. It was not 474 00:21:15,240 --> 00:21:18,400 Speaker 2: just formulated because of this at bat role. It happened 475 00:21:18,440 --> 00:21:20,560 Speaker 2: that way and it felt like it was scripted, but 476 00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:23,439 Speaker 2: it wasn't scripted. So I think trying to chase something 477 00:21:23,520 --> 00:21:25,400 Speaker 2: down in like the Golden a bat, just to make 478 00:21:25,440 --> 00:21:27,879 Speaker 2: it happen because it would be exciting to compare it 479 00:21:27,920 --> 00:21:31,760 Speaker 2: to football to NBA. There're different sports. We're talking about baseball. 480 00:21:31,800 --> 00:21:34,280 Speaker 2: So yeah, I sound like a baseball purist. I'm not 481 00:21:34,440 --> 00:21:37,200 Speaker 2: all the way, but on this this note, I definitely 482 00:21:37,240 --> 00:21:38,240 Speaker 2: aem I mean. 483 00:21:38,119 --> 00:21:39,800 Speaker 1: Thinking about why a player would like it. I remember 484 00:21:39,800 --> 00:21:42,800 Speaker 1: that at NLDS bat between the Phillies and the Braves. 485 00:21:42,800 --> 00:21:44,040 Speaker 1: I forgot who came up to the play, but it 486 00:21:44,040 --> 00:21:46,400 Speaker 1: was literally the twenty six player on the Braves rost Mark. 487 00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:47,760 Speaker 1: Do you remember who was the last step out of 488 00:21:47,800 --> 00:21:49,760 Speaker 1: the game. It was a nonsense player, wasn't like, It 489 00:21:49,800 --> 00:21:52,440 Speaker 1: wasn't Chadwick Trump, it was backup infielder. I remember, like 490 00:21:52,440 --> 00:21:54,560 Speaker 1: iuesee Ronald the Queen junior being like, why is he 491 00:21:54,640 --> 00:21:56,119 Speaker 1: up right now? Please let me get please, let me 492 00:21:56,200 --> 00:21:58,479 Speaker 1: hit This is ridiculous. But Dsha, thank you so much 493 00:21:58,480 --> 00:22:00,440 Speaker 1: for coming on with us. I got one question before 494 00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:03,040 Speaker 1: we let you go. I know you're a pet steak girl. 495 00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:05,960 Speaker 1: You I went to Ohio State, So rather than watch 496 00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:07,320 Speaker 1: the game this week, I'm going to just lay in 497 00:22:07,320 --> 00:22:09,119 Speaker 1: traffic or swim in the East River or something. But 498 00:22:09,520 --> 00:22:11,280 Speaker 1: you excited to watch Penn State playing the Big Ten 499 00:22:11,359 --> 00:22:12,680 Speaker 1: championship in the colleg football player. 500 00:22:12,760 --> 00:22:15,120 Speaker 2: I am very excited. I'll be packing for the Winter 501 00:22:15,240 --> 00:22:18,080 Speaker 2: meetings then in my stress, but I'm hyped. I mean, 502 00:22:18,080 --> 00:22:20,800 Speaker 2: I've been following them this closely for the first time 503 00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:23,080 Speaker 2: since I graduated, which I'm not even going to reveal 504 00:22:23,119 --> 00:22:25,879 Speaker 2: at this point, but it has been an exciting season 505 00:22:25,920 --> 00:22:27,680 Speaker 2: and I can't wait. It's good to know, though, we 506 00:22:27,720 --> 00:22:29,199 Speaker 2: got the rival. Where you going let's go? 507 00:22:29,560 --> 00:22:31,879 Speaker 1: Yeah? Right, all right, Disha, thank you again because I 508 00:22:31,880 --> 00:22:34,320 Speaker 1: have on the Winter meetings. Plug your social media. Let 509 00:22:34,320 --> 00:22:35,640 Speaker 1: people know where to follow you and where to find 510 00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:36,000 Speaker 1: your work. 511 00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:39,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, of course, follow me on Dsha Thosar at Twitter 512 00:22:39,760 --> 00:22:42,240 Speaker 2: and if you're on Blue Sky it's dish though. 513 00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:46,240 Speaker 3: Awesome, Thank you, Disha, appreciate it and good luck. 514 00:22:46,800 --> 00:23:10,920 Speaker 2: Of course, thanks for having me on guys then s