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He has been my 38 00:02:05,720 --> 00:02:08,400 Speaker 1: partner in crime on these live election nights and one 39 00:02:08,440 --> 00:02:09,920 Speaker 1: of the things that I want to do when we 40 00:02:10,000 --> 00:02:13,680 Speaker 1: do these big live election night specials as we did. 41 00:02:13,720 --> 00:02:17,120 Speaker 1: And by the way, thank you. An enormous turnout of 42 00:02:17,160 --> 00:02:20,840 Speaker 1: viewers again through all of our different channels doing Decision 43 00:02:20,840 --> 00:02:27,639 Speaker 1: to sk HQ, Chris Salizzi's channels, my channels. We're glad 44 00:02:27,680 --> 00:02:31,920 Speaker 1: to know that, you know, basically election night for people 45 00:02:31,919 --> 00:02:36,440 Speaker 1: that just want the information and not the spin. I 46 00:02:36,520 --> 00:02:39,320 Speaker 1: thinks turning into a more and more popular feature. So 47 00:02:39,360 --> 00:02:41,840 Speaker 1: we're happy to do that. But one of the things 48 00:02:41,840 --> 00:02:43,280 Speaker 1: we want to do is, you know, you sort of 49 00:02:43,320 --> 00:02:47,280 Speaker 1: you deal in the moment, but you know, both Chris 50 00:02:47,280 --> 00:02:50,600 Speaker 1: and I like to sort of soak in the in 51 00:02:50,639 --> 00:02:52,600 Speaker 1: the data as it comes in, and you sort of 52 00:02:52,680 --> 00:02:56,320 Speaker 1: ruminate in it after and you after all the numbers 53 00:02:56,360 --> 00:02:58,440 Speaker 1: get in, you sort of learn more stuff. So he 54 00:02:58,480 --> 00:03:02,200 Speaker 1: and I spend a bit of a debrief, if you will, 55 00:03:02,360 --> 00:03:07,040 Speaker 1: for most things Texas and the fallout going forward, and 56 00:03:07,200 --> 00:03:09,200 Speaker 1: I have a lot actually a few more things I 57 00:03:09,200 --> 00:03:12,120 Speaker 1: want to say before we get to the interview with Chris, 58 00:03:13,280 --> 00:03:15,320 Speaker 1: so because you know, yes, it was to kick off 59 00:03:15,320 --> 00:03:17,360 Speaker 1: of the primary, but there's a lot of other things 60 00:03:17,360 --> 00:03:20,840 Speaker 1: that have that I've kind of left on the cutting 61 00:03:20,919 --> 00:03:23,760 Speaker 1: room floor with you guys, simply because I've been very 62 00:03:23,760 --> 00:03:26,480 Speaker 1: focused on on the Texas primaries. Wanted to make sure 63 00:03:27,240 --> 00:03:30,720 Speaker 1: our live Election Night special went well. But the fact 64 00:03:30,760 --> 00:03:35,760 Speaker 1: of the matter is the war that Donald Trump started 65 00:03:36,280 --> 00:03:39,600 Speaker 1: less than a week ago is not going well. It's 66 00:03:40,360 --> 00:03:45,200 Speaker 1: it's not going certainly not going well politically. And the 67 00:03:45,320 --> 00:03:49,080 Speaker 1: question is, you know, is it going to bog us down? 68 00:03:49,160 --> 00:03:50,720 Speaker 1: How is it going militarily? 69 00:03:51,320 --> 00:03:54,640 Speaker 2: Well? This feels in these early days, and look. 70 00:03:54,480 --> 00:03:58,520 Speaker 1: I I want to be mindful, and it's it's in 71 00:03:58,560 --> 00:04:01,800 Speaker 1: some ways when you're when you're skeptical about a decision, 72 00:04:02,600 --> 00:04:05,800 Speaker 1: you can easily get quick to find reasons to reinforce 73 00:04:05,840 --> 00:04:10,880 Speaker 1: your skepticism. So I am sort of acknowledging my own 74 00:04:11,080 --> 00:04:12,960 Speaker 1: sort of editorial bias here. 75 00:04:13,040 --> 00:04:13,240 Speaker 2: Right. 76 00:04:13,280 --> 00:04:17,360 Speaker 1: I think this feels like can of worms has been 77 00:04:17,400 --> 00:04:19,880 Speaker 1: opened up, and now I'm looking around, I see a 78 00:04:19,920 --> 00:04:20,680 Speaker 1: lot of worms. 79 00:04:21,160 --> 00:04:21,360 Speaker 2: Right. 80 00:04:21,440 --> 00:04:25,200 Speaker 1: We've got multiple countries that have that have somehow been 81 00:04:25,320 --> 00:04:28,640 Speaker 1: dragged into a piece of this war, whether it's drones 82 00:04:28,720 --> 00:04:32,520 Speaker 1: or missiles fired by Iran at Gulf states, you know, 83 00:04:32,560 --> 00:04:38,320 Speaker 1: including Uae or Bahrain, whether it's suddenly Sri Lanka getting 84 00:04:38,480 --> 00:04:41,239 Speaker 1: getting drawn into it because we sank an Iranian naval 85 00:04:41,279 --> 00:04:45,640 Speaker 1: ship sort of in their waters in the Indian Ocean. 86 00:04:47,080 --> 00:04:49,720 Speaker 2: It is it feels like this is. 87 00:04:53,400 --> 00:04:55,240 Speaker 1: I had hinted it for the last few weeks that 88 00:04:55,600 --> 00:04:59,880 Speaker 1: one of the concerns I had about was the lack 89 00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:04,640 Speaker 1: of was how much more risk averse the president was 90 00:05:04,720 --> 00:05:11,080 Speaker 1: becoming because he he had been warned about certain events 91 00:05:11,279 --> 00:05:15,400 Speaker 1: and when he went against those warnings and bad things 92 00:05:15,400 --> 00:05:19,240 Speaker 1: didn't happen, it reinforced the notion in his head that hey, 93 00:05:19,279 --> 00:05:22,200 Speaker 1: he knows, he knows this situation better than the so 94 00:05:22,360 --> 00:05:26,640 Speaker 1: called experts. And what am I referring to so assassinating 95 00:05:26,640 --> 00:05:31,760 Speaker 1: Solomoni who was the head of the republic, the the 96 00:05:32,040 --> 00:05:35,800 Speaker 1: i r GC for the Iranians, somebody responsible for the 97 00:05:35,800 --> 00:05:38,839 Speaker 1: death of many Americans, many many folks in the Middle East, 98 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:45,080 Speaker 1: essentially the key strategists in their in their terror campaigns. 99 00:05:45,440 --> 00:05:50,719 Speaker 1: That that could that could spark a lot of fallout 100 00:05:50,960 --> 00:05:56,080 Speaker 1: for American resources in the in the in the in 101 00:05:56,120 --> 00:05:56,560 Speaker 1: the region. 102 00:05:56,640 --> 00:05:57,080 Speaker 2: It did not. 103 00:05:58,560 --> 00:06:03,400 Speaker 1: The bombing campaign in the last summer that the US 104 00:06:03,560 --> 00:06:10,320 Speaker 1: jointly did with the Israelis to uh finally penetrate and 105 00:06:10,600 --> 00:06:13,320 Speaker 1: try to set back, if not, in the president's words, 106 00:06:13,360 --> 00:06:20,400 Speaker 1: obliterate Iran's nuclear program was also something that the experts 107 00:06:20,440 --> 00:06:23,360 Speaker 1: around him warned, Hey, be careful here, this could this 108 00:06:23,360 --> 00:06:30,159 Speaker 1: could trigger a response that that could get that could 109 00:06:30,160 --> 00:06:32,960 Speaker 1: get out of hand quickly. Nothing seemed to happen there. 110 00:06:33,000 --> 00:06:36,120 Speaker 1: If anything, the Iranians looked like a paper tiger. They 111 00:06:36,120 --> 00:06:39,600 Speaker 1: were clearly not looking for a fight. They wanted they 112 00:06:39,680 --> 00:06:42,600 Speaker 1: wanted out, and since we weren't pursuing regime change, they 113 00:06:42,600 --> 00:06:46,000 Speaker 1: took that as a you know, we just keep them 114 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:47,000 Speaker 1: from attacking again. 115 00:06:47,240 --> 00:06:47,960 Speaker 2: We'll take that. 116 00:06:47,920 --> 00:06:50,279 Speaker 1: As a as a survive, not quite a win, but 117 00:06:50,360 --> 00:06:57,040 Speaker 1: a survive. Well, then came regime change, and let's look, 118 00:06:58,040 --> 00:07:02,520 Speaker 1: this is clearly why we acted when we acted right. 119 00:07:02,720 --> 00:07:05,760 Speaker 1: You know, all of the you know, while there's been 120 00:07:05,960 --> 00:07:10,239 Speaker 1: various confusing rationales that have been presented to the American 121 00:07:10,280 --> 00:07:17,400 Speaker 1: people about why we acted when we acted right, what 122 00:07:17,600 --> 00:07:21,440 Speaker 1: seems to be the most truthful and the most salient 123 00:07:21,520 --> 00:07:24,800 Speaker 1: and the most that has the most evident supporting that 124 00:07:24,800 --> 00:07:29,080 Speaker 1: that has to be the reason is it was an opportunity, right, 125 00:07:29,360 --> 00:07:34,240 Speaker 1: opportunity to get Kamani and the senior leaders of the 126 00:07:34,280 --> 00:07:38,360 Speaker 1: Iranian theocracy and they were all going to be meeting 127 00:07:38,400 --> 00:07:42,120 Speaker 1: in one place, and it was it was an opportunity. 128 00:07:42,520 --> 00:07:46,920 Speaker 1: And apparently this opportunity was if you believe the reports 129 00:07:48,400 --> 00:07:52,360 Speaker 1: available every Saturday, right, which was this was a meeting 130 00:07:52,400 --> 00:07:54,920 Speaker 1: he was having on Saturdays with his senior leaders and 131 00:07:54,960 --> 00:07:59,040 Speaker 1: the Israelis. It appears that the CIA and the Israelis, 132 00:07:59,040 --> 00:08:02,680 Speaker 1: both of the intelligence agencies, knew this was going to happen, 133 00:08:03,280 --> 00:08:05,640 Speaker 1: and there was one report that indicated this was going 134 00:08:05,680 --> 00:08:08,840 Speaker 1: to happen February twenty first instead of February twenty eighth. 135 00:08:09,200 --> 00:08:12,760 Speaker 1: But there were weather issues, and this timeline is important. 136 00:08:12,800 --> 00:08:15,800 Speaker 1: I'm going to get to that in a minute. Which 137 00:08:15,800 --> 00:08:18,480 Speaker 1: would have been actually the weekend before the State of 138 00:08:18,480 --> 00:08:22,360 Speaker 1: the Union that these attacks could have started, but weather 139 00:08:22,440 --> 00:08:28,400 Speaker 1: issues and they decided to wait a week. At some point, 140 00:08:29,520 --> 00:08:33,600 Speaker 1: the president is informed by somebody is it net Yahoo 141 00:08:33,840 --> 00:08:37,040 Speaker 1: is at MBS right. We've had different pieces of reporting 142 00:08:37,080 --> 00:08:42,400 Speaker 1: indicating different things that there was an opportunity that Kamanee 143 00:08:42,480 --> 00:08:45,120 Speaker 1: was going to be meeting with this senior leadership and 144 00:08:45,200 --> 00:08:49,240 Speaker 1: if they struck now they could get them. And essentially 145 00:08:49,280 --> 00:08:52,360 Speaker 1: it was a way could they pursue regime change without 146 00:08:53,040 --> 00:08:55,439 Speaker 1: technically having to you know, if they just took out 147 00:08:56,000 --> 00:09:03,240 Speaker 1: cut off the head of the snake, maybe the snake dies. Well, look, 148 00:09:03,480 --> 00:09:05,120 Speaker 1: we're not yet a week end of this thing, so 149 00:09:05,240 --> 00:09:09,040 Speaker 1: I don't think we should say you know this, you know, 150 00:09:09,120 --> 00:09:12,920 Speaker 1: cutting off the head of the snake hasn't worked yet, 151 00:09:13,920 --> 00:09:18,600 Speaker 1: but there's a growing sense, and there's growing nervousness in 152 00:09:18,720 --> 00:09:22,200 Speaker 1: the Pentagon and in even in those in and around 153 00:09:22,240 --> 00:09:26,439 Speaker 1: the president that that the hope that once they got 154 00:09:26,520 --> 00:09:30,440 Speaker 1: rid of Kamane, that there would be entities ready to 155 00:09:30,520 --> 00:09:37,440 Speaker 1: rise up, or perhaps figures within the regime that's we're 156 00:09:37,559 --> 00:09:40,920 Speaker 1: going to be ready to make a deal, maybe ready 157 00:09:40,920 --> 00:09:43,920 Speaker 1: to switch sides. Maybe he could find his own Delsi Rodriguez, 158 00:09:45,559 --> 00:09:49,359 Speaker 1: the puppet vice president of Maduro that is now essentially 159 00:09:49,400 --> 00:09:55,880 Speaker 1: become a de facto I don't know what to call her, 160 00:09:56,000 --> 00:10:00,240 Speaker 1: but you know, as long as she pays pays Trump 161 00:10:00,280 --> 00:10:03,480 Speaker 1: in access to the oil, he's apparently going to leave 162 00:10:03,520 --> 00:10:07,840 Speaker 1: her alone and let her rule. Well, you know, the 163 00:10:07,880 --> 00:10:11,720 Speaker 1: idea of democracy coming to Venezuela apparently is not the 164 00:10:11,800 --> 00:10:13,920 Speaker 1: rationale he used to get rid of Maduro. And he 165 00:10:13,960 --> 00:10:17,840 Speaker 1: had a singular reason to get Maduro's. 166 00:10:17,880 --> 00:10:18,920 Speaker 2: He wanted the oil. 167 00:10:20,840 --> 00:10:24,600 Speaker 1: Because again, if it was about democracy, we'd have something right. 168 00:10:24,600 --> 00:10:27,040 Speaker 1: There would at least be a commission starting to figure 169 00:10:27,040 --> 00:10:29,200 Speaker 1: out when the elections would be held, or maybe there 170 00:10:29,200 --> 00:10:34,960 Speaker 1: would be a temporary transitional governance team that might include 171 00:10:36,240 --> 00:10:38,439 Speaker 1: the folks that actually won the last election that we 172 00:10:38,520 --> 00:10:41,720 Speaker 1: recognized as a national government. But again, none of that 173 00:10:41,800 --> 00:10:44,600 Speaker 1: has happened, none of that is close to even happening. 174 00:10:45,200 --> 00:10:49,120 Speaker 1: So this is the rationale that he's essentially we're given here. 175 00:10:49,160 --> 00:10:53,079 Speaker 1: And I say this because look, in talking to some 176 00:10:53,160 --> 00:10:55,280 Speaker 1: sources that I know of folks on the ground there, 177 00:10:55,320 --> 00:10:58,120 Speaker 1: there's a few things that are already seem to be clear. 178 00:10:58,400 --> 00:11:02,960 Speaker 1: Is that whatever force, you know, whatever group of folks 179 00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:07,120 Speaker 1: that might wanted to overthrow the regime, they went underground 180 00:11:07,200 --> 00:11:12,280 Speaker 1: due to the repression that the regime brought down upon 181 00:11:12,440 --> 00:11:16,960 Speaker 1: the protesters in January, and those folks seem to be 182 00:11:17,040 --> 00:11:18,720 Speaker 1: either killed or underground. 183 00:11:19,160 --> 00:11:20,040 Speaker 2: One. 184 00:11:20,440 --> 00:11:25,640 Speaker 1: Two, there's definitely a power struggle, and there's definitely a 185 00:11:25,679 --> 00:11:30,800 Speaker 1: desire of this theocracy to survive. They're not interested in 186 00:11:31,000 --> 00:11:33,719 Speaker 1: putting down arms, and there doesn't appear to be a 187 00:11:33,760 --> 00:11:36,560 Speaker 1: movement to do that. You know, the president has sort 188 00:11:36,559 --> 00:11:39,280 Speaker 1: of said, well, everybody we thought could be a candidate 189 00:11:39,320 --> 00:11:43,280 Speaker 1: to be a transitional figure is dead, and then the 190 00:11:43,320 --> 00:11:48,040 Speaker 1: other people we keep thinking of, they die. Whether that's 191 00:11:48,320 --> 00:11:51,880 Speaker 1: just his rationale for not having a plan be here, 192 00:11:52,040 --> 00:11:55,240 Speaker 1: or that is exactly what happened. Either way, there's a 193 00:11:55,280 --> 00:11:59,400 Speaker 1: bit of a vacuum. So now we are publicly and 194 00:11:59,480 --> 00:12:02,720 Speaker 1: this seems just insane to me when you think about it, 195 00:12:02,880 --> 00:12:06,040 Speaker 1: on a number of levels. Number one, the CIA, we 196 00:12:06,080 --> 00:12:10,400 Speaker 1: are publicly letting people know that the CIA is trying 197 00:12:10,440 --> 00:12:16,800 Speaker 1: to arm and train Kurds to essentially be a proxy 198 00:12:17,040 --> 00:12:22,400 Speaker 1: force within Iran to try to disrupt and overthrow this regime. 199 00:12:23,760 --> 00:12:27,000 Speaker 1: And I'm not quite sure, you know, what are we 200 00:12:27,080 --> 00:12:30,480 Speaker 1: promising the Kurds in return. You know, the Kurds have 201 00:12:30,559 --> 00:12:33,840 Speaker 1: been this incredible ally to the United States when they've 202 00:12:34,200 --> 00:12:37,480 Speaker 1: tried to deal with Isis, when they were dealing with 203 00:12:37,480 --> 00:12:40,960 Speaker 1: with with a sod and Syria. But the you know, 204 00:12:41,120 --> 00:12:46,080 Speaker 1: but they but there's that that's a very complicated issue, 205 00:12:46,240 --> 00:12:48,559 Speaker 1: right The Turks have their issues with the Kurds. 206 00:12:48,760 --> 00:12:50,400 Speaker 2: Others have their issue with the Kurds. 207 00:12:50,679 --> 00:12:52,800 Speaker 1: The Kurds, you know, thanks to our It's all goes 208 00:12:52,840 --> 00:12:54,719 Speaker 1: back to World War One, right, the fall of the 209 00:12:54,760 --> 00:12:56,880 Speaker 1: Ottoman Empire, and the Curds are kind of left out 210 00:12:58,320 --> 00:13:01,200 Speaker 1: of you know, they you know, you got land, but 211 00:13:01,240 --> 00:13:04,360 Speaker 1: you didn't get land. But I'm not going to get 212 00:13:04,360 --> 00:13:07,000 Speaker 1: through a history lesson here today. But it so now 213 00:13:07,040 --> 00:13:13,320 Speaker 1: we're trying to essentially trigger a civil war. I'm trying 214 00:13:13,320 --> 00:13:14,080 Speaker 1: to figure out what. 215 00:13:14,040 --> 00:13:14,920 Speaker 2: We hope to do. 216 00:13:15,200 --> 00:13:19,040 Speaker 1: Number One, Why are we publicly announcing what the CIA 217 00:13:19,240 --> 00:13:23,360 Speaker 1: is doing. It seems like that is a bit of 218 00:13:23,360 --> 00:13:25,240 Speaker 1: a head scratcher that you would do that. 219 00:13:25,360 --> 00:13:25,840 Speaker 2: Number One. 220 00:13:27,000 --> 00:13:30,520 Speaker 1: But if that's what we're you know, because every indication 221 00:13:30,640 --> 00:13:33,000 Speaker 1: I've gotten from experts in Iran that at this point 222 00:13:33,040 --> 00:13:37,520 Speaker 1: now the fear is the only hope is that it 223 00:13:37,600 --> 00:13:41,559 Speaker 1: might that it's going to probably take a civil war 224 00:13:42,800 --> 00:13:45,400 Speaker 1: to figure out who's going to be the next leader 225 00:13:45,400 --> 00:13:49,160 Speaker 1: of Iran. There is no democratic transition, there is no 226 00:13:49,320 --> 00:13:53,880 Speaker 1: smooth transition. There isn't this isn't This isn't going to 227 00:13:53,960 --> 00:13:58,400 Speaker 1: happen as easily as I think people told Donald Trump 228 00:13:58,440 --> 00:14:01,360 Speaker 1: it could happen, or he may have manufactured in his 229 00:14:01,400 --> 00:14:05,280 Speaker 1: own head. Can I go back to the ease with 230 00:14:05,360 --> 00:14:10,400 Speaker 1: which he got Maduro out of Venezuela, the ease with 231 00:14:10,520 --> 00:14:15,800 Speaker 1: which assassinating Solamani and blowing up their nuclear bunkers in 232 00:14:15,880 --> 00:14:18,840 Speaker 1: the mountains there, and the fact that there was no 233 00:14:19,000 --> 00:14:22,960 Speaker 1: immediate blowback, I think it it sort of. 234 00:14:22,960 --> 00:14:27,000 Speaker 2: Numbed him to the risk of this. And here we are. 235 00:14:27,400 --> 00:14:31,000 Speaker 1: We now have multiple golf countries that thought having an 236 00:14:31,000 --> 00:14:34,560 Speaker 1: American air base meant they had they had security, it 237 00:14:34,560 --> 00:14:38,800 Speaker 1: would prevent a country from attacking them. Well, what's Iran done. 238 00:14:39,200 --> 00:14:43,960 Speaker 1: They've been using very cheap rockets and drones to inflict 239 00:14:44,120 --> 00:14:50,600 Speaker 1: damage on Dubai, in the UAE, in Bahrain and in 240 00:14:50,720 --> 00:14:51,520 Speaker 1: other places. 241 00:14:52,880 --> 00:14:55,320 Speaker 2: Is this what the Golf States signed up for? Now 242 00:14:55,360 --> 00:14:56,920 Speaker 2: we know, we've got that report. 243 00:14:56,640 --> 00:15:04,400 Speaker 1: That NBS was highly influential in convincing Trump to launch 244 00:15:04,480 --> 00:15:10,160 Speaker 1: these strikes. Never mind that the two people, one of 245 00:15:10,200 --> 00:15:12,480 Speaker 1: the two people that were negotiating on behalf of the 246 00:15:12,560 --> 00:15:17,160 Speaker 1: United States with the Iranians, with somebody who's in business 247 00:15:17,200 --> 00:15:19,680 Speaker 1: with the Saudis, whose Saudy sovereign fund. I've brought this 248 00:15:19,760 --> 00:15:23,680 Speaker 1: up before, but it bears repeating that this is a 249 00:15:25,320 --> 00:15:27,480 Speaker 1: You're you're trying to figure out step back here. You're 250 00:15:27,480 --> 00:15:29,640 Speaker 1: trying to figure out what's the rationale for why we're 251 00:15:29,640 --> 00:15:33,400 Speaker 1: doing this in round and why now we know Kahmani's. 252 00:15:32,880 --> 00:15:33,920 Speaker 2: A bad guy. 253 00:15:34,040 --> 00:15:36,800 Speaker 1: The Iranians have been doing terrible things in the Middle East. 254 00:15:38,000 --> 00:15:40,480 Speaker 1: They have been this is a theocracy there, this is 255 00:15:40,560 --> 00:15:44,160 Speaker 1: this is there. They're immoral when their treatment of women, 256 00:15:44,200 --> 00:15:48,480 Speaker 1: their treatment of lesbians and gays, treatment of pretty much 257 00:15:48,520 --> 00:15:54,320 Speaker 1: any minority group. It is a theocracy. There's there's not 258 00:15:54,360 --> 00:15:58,560 Speaker 1: a defense of how they implement human rights in their country. 259 00:15:58,600 --> 00:16:02,280 Speaker 1: And they're not alone in being on human rights. And 260 00:16:02,320 --> 00:16:03,800 Speaker 1: I'm glad to see we want to take a hard 261 00:16:03,800 --> 00:16:05,440 Speaker 1: line with iron I'm sorry when I don't take a 262 00:16:05,440 --> 00:16:10,440 Speaker 1: hard line with Russia, but I digress. But it is 263 00:16:10,520 --> 00:16:14,080 Speaker 1: important to understand this because we keep getting different rationales. 264 00:16:14,600 --> 00:16:16,760 Speaker 1: Why did we do it when we did it? The 265 00:16:16,760 --> 00:16:22,560 Speaker 1: president's business relationships with these countries and the golf you 266 00:16:22,680 --> 00:16:27,960 Speaker 1: cannot discount them as being factors in this. In this 267 00:16:28,680 --> 00:16:30,280 Speaker 1: you know, I'm not going to sit here and say 268 00:16:30,280 --> 00:16:32,920 Speaker 1: it was the only factor, but you can't discount it. 269 00:16:33,560 --> 00:16:37,360 Speaker 1: And then here you have a conflicted private citizen in 270 00:16:37,480 --> 00:16:41,320 Speaker 1: Jared Kushner who's in business with the Saudis, whose private 271 00:16:41,320 --> 00:16:44,680 Speaker 1: equity fund really wouldn't be taken seriously without the Saudi 272 00:16:45,240 --> 00:16:50,360 Speaker 1: Sovereign funds investment. He's negotiating with the Iranians, and then 273 00:16:50,360 --> 00:16:54,240 Speaker 1: he's going back when we find out NBS, and again, 274 00:16:54,360 --> 00:16:58,440 Speaker 1: I know I've been ranting about this before. NBS is 275 00:16:58,520 --> 00:17:02,040 Speaker 1: directly lobbying the present to go in with the Israelis. 276 00:17:02,080 --> 00:17:03,680 Speaker 1: And do this take out Kamani. 277 00:17:04,080 --> 00:17:04,879 Speaker 2: It is time. 278 00:17:05,680 --> 00:17:08,280 Speaker 1: The Iranians have never been this week, They've never been 279 00:17:08,320 --> 00:17:12,200 Speaker 1: this vulnerable. Strike now it is from a strategic point 280 00:17:12,200 --> 00:17:17,080 Speaker 1: of view, understandable on the timing, and there's no doubt 281 00:17:17,119 --> 00:17:21,760 Speaker 1: the Saudi's benefit from a week Iran Saudi's and I'll 282 00:17:21,800 --> 00:17:24,160 Speaker 1: be very curious, are the Saudi is going to be 283 00:17:25,040 --> 00:17:30,160 Speaker 1: excited about a strong, small d democratic Iran when that happens, 284 00:17:30,200 --> 00:17:33,080 Speaker 1: and hopefully the next five to ten years, but let's 285 00:17:33,080 --> 00:17:38,600 Speaker 1: be realistic, it's probably going to take that long. But 286 00:17:38,720 --> 00:17:42,040 Speaker 1: here he is lobbying. And so Kushner comes back to 287 00:17:42,119 --> 00:17:44,480 Speaker 1: the president, to his father in law and says, yeah, 288 00:17:45,280 --> 00:17:50,439 Speaker 1: they're not serious about this, right, NBS has already been 289 00:17:50,520 --> 00:17:54,679 Speaker 1: lobbying the president. Kushner comes back and reports that we 290 00:17:54,760 --> 00:17:57,280 Speaker 1: have no idea what kind of conversations Kushner is having 291 00:17:57,320 --> 00:18:03,920 Speaker 1: with his business partners in Saudi A review. That's why 292 00:18:03,960 --> 00:18:06,919 Speaker 1: you worry about conflict of interest, folks. This is why 293 00:18:07,000 --> 00:18:12,800 Speaker 1: you don't want this in your infecting your government, because 294 00:18:12,840 --> 00:18:17,119 Speaker 1: it erodes trust, belief. We don't know what is the 295 00:18:17,160 --> 00:18:21,080 Speaker 1: real motivation here. Then you've had other pieces of this 296 00:18:21,200 --> 00:18:23,600 Speaker 1: rationale having to do with well, Israel was going to 297 00:18:23,640 --> 00:18:26,560 Speaker 1: go anyway, or supposedly we wanted to go, but we 298 00:18:26,600 --> 00:18:28,280 Speaker 1: didn't want to look like we were going first. So 299 00:18:28,640 --> 00:18:32,440 Speaker 1: we were hoping Israel would launch these attacks, they'd get attacked, 300 00:18:32,480 --> 00:18:34,240 Speaker 1: and then we'd response, and then we were just looking 301 00:18:34,280 --> 00:18:35,000 Speaker 1: like we were coming in. 302 00:18:36,400 --> 00:18:37,880 Speaker 2: By the way. 303 00:18:37,960 --> 00:18:43,119 Speaker 1: You know, Israel's brand is not great in the United 304 00:18:43,119 --> 00:18:45,399 Speaker 1: States these days, in either political party. 305 00:18:45,400 --> 00:18:45,960 Speaker 2: We know this. 306 00:18:48,000 --> 00:18:50,800 Speaker 1: It doesn't help that our government almost is trying to 307 00:18:50,960 --> 00:18:54,760 Speaker 1: use Israel as a shield here and that they're going 308 00:18:54,840 --> 00:18:56,880 Speaker 1: to get you know. 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And 373 00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:29,440 Speaker 1: I think one of the near term issues that's clearly 374 00:22:29,840 --> 00:22:32,040 Speaker 1: you know, sort of it's the type of thing that 375 00:22:32,040 --> 00:22:35,280 Speaker 1: the public pays attention to is this issue of stranded Americans. 376 00:22:36,760 --> 00:22:38,879 Speaker 1: And I want to get into this a minute, because 377 00:22:41,440 --> 00:22:42,479 Speaker 1: that keeps changing. 378 00:22:42,760 --> 00:22:43,040 Speaker 2: Right. 379 00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:48,120 Speaker 1: The President's first response on this is well, it all 380 00:22:48,160 --> 00:22:51,919 Speaker 1: happened very quickly right on Tuesday when the President is 381 00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:55,280 Speaker 1: asked and again I would have made a bigger deal 382 00:22:55,320 --> 00:22:57,080 Speaker 1: out of this is my podcast. The other day, but 383 00:22:57,119 --> 00:22:59,680 Speaker 1: I was very focused on the Texas primaries. So during 384 00:22:59,680 --> 00:23:01,399 Speaker 1: this one press of fatile he's asked why there was 385 00:23:01,440 --> 00:23:05,119 Speaker 1: no evacuation plan for Americans in the region before the strikes, 386 00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:07,720 Speaker 1: and the President said this, Well, it all happened very quickly. 387 00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:10,160 Speaker 1: We thought, and I thought, maybe more so than most, 388 00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:11,720 Speaker 1: that we were going to be in a situation where 389 00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:13,359 Speaker 1: we were going to be attacked. So they were getting 390 00:23:13,359 --> 00:23:15,680 Speaker 1: ready to attack Israel, they were getting ready to attack others. 391 00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:18,760 Speaker 1: So I think I was right about that we attacked first. 392 00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:22,600 Speaker 1: So as you could see here, he's desperate to try 393 00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:24,600 Speaker 1: to try to come up with the rationale that there 394 00:23:24,600 --> 00:23:27,800 Speaker 1: was an imminent threat. Well, there's clearly was no imminent 395 00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:30,800 Speaker 1: threat from the Iranians. And oh, by the way, this 396 00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:36,360 Speaker 1: idea that we had to act fast, can I can 397 00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:39,679 Speaker 1: I remind you of the timeline of this and so 398 00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:42,439 Speaker 1: this idea that we didn't have an evacuation plan in 399 00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:47,800 Speaker 1: places because we had to act fast. Okay, here's what 400 00:23:47,840 --> 00:23:49,960 Speaker 1: the United States has been doing. And the President of 401 00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:53,320 Speaker 1: the United States was live tweeting, has been live tweeting 402 00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:56,240 Speaker 1: the build up of our military assets in the region 403 00:23:56,400 --> 00:23:59,440 Speaker 1: since mid January. In mid January, the President orders the 404 00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:03,719 Speaker 1: USSA Abraham Lincoln Strike Group to the region, explicitly calling 405 00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:08,640 Speaker 1: it quote a massive armada heading to Iran mid January. 406 00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:13,000 Speaker 1: Remember today is March. I'm taping this in the first 407 00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:16,400 Speaker 1: week of March. Okay, so this is more than six 408 00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:21,000 Speaker 1: weeks ago. Then on February thirteenth, all right, the middle 409 00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:25,399 Speaker 1: of last month, the USS Gerald Ford, the world's largest 410 00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:28,600 Speaker 1: aircraft carrier, was redirected to the Middle East, which meant 411 00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:33,199 Speaker 1: we had our rare two carrier hammer there you had 412 00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:39,800 Speaker 1: the Lincoln and the Ford. Apparently it's moderate Republican presidents 413 00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:43,000 Speaker 1: that are named for our aircraft carriers in this war. 414 00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:44,560 Speaker 2: But I digress. 415 00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:49,760 Speaker 1: Then, between February seventeenth and twenty six, over two hundred 416 00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:54,080 Speaker 1: military cargo flights delivered hardware to bases in Israel and Jordan. 417 00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:58,879 Speaker 1: On February twenty fourth, twelve f twenty two Raptors offensive 418 00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:03,439 Speaker 1: stealth jets arrived in Israel, yet another clear signal that 419 00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:08,760 Speaker 1: a combat was imminent. So the Pentagon had time to 420 00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:13,880 Speaker 1: move five thousand ton warships halfway around the world. They 421 00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:17,920 Speaker 1: had time to fly two hundred cargo planes full of missiles. 422 00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:22,000 Speaker 1: They had six weeks of build up to plan for 423 00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:29,000 Speaker 1: the February twenty eighth strike on Iran. If they had 424 00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:33,440 Speaker 1: time to move the armada, why didn't they have time 425 00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:41,439 Speaker 1: to move the Americans. So the administration is claiming, well, 426 00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:43,920 Speaker 1: they had an element of surprise. That's what they needed 427 00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:46,560 Speaker 1: as the excuse of why they didn't warn Americans to 428 00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:47,280 Speaker 1: leave earlier. 429 00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:53,360 Speaker 2: Okay, surprise, we. 430 00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:57,120 Speaker 1: Had an armada there for forty days. The Iranians were 431 00:25:57,160 --> 00:26:00,840 Speaker 1: not surprised that we were going to attack. Old World 432 00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:03,159 Speaker 1: was wondering when we were going to attack. All of 433 00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:08,719 Speaker 1: our newsrooms, myself included in my own, we were constantly planning, Okay, 434 00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:11,119 Speaker 1: if we attack Iran in the next twenty four hours, 435 00:26:11,119 --> 00:26:13,119 Speaker 1: we got to do this. We got to We all 436 00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:16,280 Speaker 1: had plan vs for what we were going to do. 437 00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:22,520 Speaker 1: Win the administration clearly signaling this was not hidden, This 438 00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:27,159 Speaker 1: was in plain sight. The only people who seem to 439 00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:30,919 Speaker 1: have been surprised by this were the American tourists and 440 00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:33,560 Speaker 1: expats who were told by the State Department to stay 441 00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:38,560 Speaker 1: put and use commercial flights to leave the region. Flights, 442 00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:40,800 Speaker 1: by the way, that were canceled the second the first 443 00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:44,600 Speaker 1: bombs were dropped. You remember on January thirteenth, the President 444 00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:46,480 Speaker 1: famously tweeted that help is on the way to the 445 00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:51,040 Speaker 1: Iranian protesters, and in theory, you can say within about 446 00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:57,560 Speaker 1: forty days help arrived. So six weeks ago the President 447 00:26:57,640 --> 00:26:59,680 Speaker 1: promised help is on the way, and he was talking 448 00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:03,040 Speaker 1: about the aircraft carriers. But if you're an American teacher 449 00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:07,800 Speaker 1: in Kuwait, a contractor in Bahrain, and you're calling the 450 00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:11,239 Speaker 1: State Department's emergency line on March third, you know what 451 00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:15,240 Speaker 1: you got. You got an automated recording that said, please 452 00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:17,680 Speaker 1: do not rely on the US government for assistant departure. 453 00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:22,199 Speaker 1: Help wasn't on its way for them, was flying right 454 00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:31,080 Speaker 1: over their heads. So this idea that they, you know, 455 00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:36,240 Speaker 1: they were not thinking about the evacuation plans for the 456 00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:40,240 Speaker 1: scores of Americans that now live and work in this region. 457 00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:44,200 Speaker 1: Right Abu Dhabi has turned into one of the most 458 00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:48,240 Speaker 1: three or four most important financial hubs in the world. 459 00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:52,320 Speaker 1: So we had forty five days of logistics, two carriers, 460 00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:56,200 Speaker 1: three hundred and thirty warplanes, two hundred cargo ships, and 461 00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:58,320 Speaker 1: then we issue a depart now order on Monday night, 462 00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:00,040 Speaker 1: two days after the war started. In the air the 463 00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:04,840 Speaker 1: courts were already closed. So the point is is that 464 00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:10,679 Speaker 1: this specific incident, right, So there's already questions about what 465 00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:13,720 Speaker 1: is the rationale. Did we do it for a preemptive 466 00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:15,879 Speaker 1: reason because we thought the Iranians were going to strike us? 467 00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:18,359 Speaker 1: Did we do it because it was an opportunity because 468 00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:21,399 Speaker 1: comane you could get Kamane. And did we do it 469 00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:24,840 Speaker 1: because we were trying to save the protesters who were 470 00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:29,480 Speaker 1: getting repressed and killed in response for them protesting the government? 471 00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:34,480 Speaker 1: The rationales keep changing on that. And if you're the 472 00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:38,680 Speaker 1: American public, and then you also you start to ask yourself, Man, 473 00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:42,280 Speaker 1: is this the keystone cops here? Because they seem to 474 00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:44,960 Speaker 1: have all this, they knew what they wanted to do here, 475 00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:51,120 Speaker 1: to play war, to do a war game. They didn't 476 00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:54,000 Speaker 1: think about the consequences for American citizens that live and 477 00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:59,840 Speaker 1: work in the region. And the point is is that 478 00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:04,000 Speaker 1: this inability to plan to deal with American citizens in 479 00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:06,920 Speaker 1: the region is only going to reinforce the notion, well, 480 00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:08,840 Speaker 1: if you didn't plan for that, what else didn't you 481 00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:12,720 Speaker 1: plan for? If you weren't prepared for that, what else. 482 00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:13,640 Speaker 2: Aren't you prepared for? 483 00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:16,400 Speaker 1: And we're supposed to believe we're going to be able 484 00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:19,320 Speaker 1: to stand up a transitional government in Iran at some point. 485 00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:26,160 Speaker 1: This is this thing's not going well for him. In 486 00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:28,960 Speaker 1: Mike's this is the first time I in my lifetime 487 00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:33,480 Speaker 1: that an initial military action ordered by the President of 488 00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:38,600 Speaker 1: the United States has not been met with a majority supporting. 489 00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:40,480 Speaker 2: The strike. 490 00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:43,760 Speaker 1: We even got the bad guy within forty eight hours, right, 491 00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:47,680 Speaker 1: the one known bad guy that people, oh, the Ayahtola. 492 00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:53,040 Speaker 1: They might not know Komani Kamni, but everybody knows Ayatola. 493 00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:58,520 Speaker 1: So you even have your headline and at best you're 494 00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:01,000 Speaker 1: at forty nine forty eight. A poll that looked like 495 00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:04,480 Speaker 1: it was cranked up a little bit to make it 496 00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:07,480 Speaker 1: to just get the approval of the missile strike to 497 00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:09,760 Speaker 1: forty nine, to be a net positive by a point, 498 00:30:11,120 --> 00:30:12,760 Speaker 1: also happen to be a poll to show the highest 499 00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:16,440 Speaker 1: job approval rating that any polls shown in six months. 500 00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:21,640 Speaker 1: So I know the poster that put out the pole, 501 00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:24,480 Speaker 1: and I think he did an honest job, but I 502 00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:29,600 Speaker 1: think he modeled it on an electorate that doesn't really exist. 503 00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:30,120 Speaker 2: At the moment. 504 00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:36,760 Speaker 1: Number one and number two, it's already an even split, 505 00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:39,720 Speaker 1: and the single best headline that you're going to get 506 00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:43,080 Speaker 1: out of this attack has already taken place. The death 507 00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:50,600 Speaker 1: of the Iyatola. So what's plan C. We're going to 508 00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:53,880 Speaker 1: help arm and fund an insurgent force of Kurds and 509 00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:58,320 Speaker 1: hope that they can help essentially decapitate the regime from 510 00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:00,480 Speaker 1: the inside. Because we're not putting boots on the ground. 511 00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:02,560 Speaker 1: We're going to use the Kurds as the US boots 512 00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:07,120 Speaker 1: on the ground. I mean, essentially, it sounds like we're 513 00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:09,920 Speaker 1: hoping now for a civil war since there's no Since 514 00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:15,000 Speaker 1: this isn't going to be easy, so the only and 515 00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:19,280 Speaker 1: we don't want the Ayatolas to stay in charge. So 516 00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:22,320 Speaker 1: plan sees a civil war and hope for the best, 517 00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:26,840 Speaker 1: which is essentially how a rack ended up. This is 518 00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:30,120 Speaker 1: a rack on steroids. The much bigger country, there are 519 00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:36,480 Speaker 1: more factions, and we have less credibility than we've had before. Look, 520 00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:39,080 Speaker 1: there's there's plenty of good that's come out of this, 521 00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:43,640 Speaker 1: and geopolitical stuff. The biggest is you know, if if 522 00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:47,000 Speaker 1: you're an ally of Russia and China, like Iran is 523 00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:53,280 Speaker 1: slash was, you're wondering what it's what it's been good for? 524 00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:57,480 Speaker 1: Absolutely nothing? Sorry, I couldn't help myself. We have war, 525 00:31:57,520 --> 00:32:00,480 Speaker 1: What is it good for allies with China? Or you know, 526 00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:02,960 Speaker 1: if China is your ally, they're not coming to your defense. 527 00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:06,120 Speaker 1: If Russia is your ally, they're not coming to your defense. 528 00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:09,280 Speaker 1: So in that sense that you know, we've exposed that, 529 00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:12,800 Speaker 1: I think that's a good thing. And I don't want 530 00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:14,920 Speaker 1: to sit here and say that isn't right China and 531 00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:18,080 Speaker 1: Russia are, you know. I hope the United States is 532 00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:22,800 Speaker 1: still a good ally for our allies. Hopefully we haven't 533 00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:29,520 Speaker 1: alienated too many of them. But this is not going well, 534 00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:32,360 Speaker 1: and I don't know how it gets better anytime soon, 535 00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:36,920 Speaker 1: because in order to create the stability necessary for this 536 00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:41,080 Speaker 1: to get better, we've got to invest a lot more 537 00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:45,000 Speaker 1: time and energy into this region. And guess what's politically 538 00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:52,120 Speaker 1: unpopular doing exactly that. So the question is politically, I 539 00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:54,520 Speaker 1: don't you know. You look and it's like you look 540 00:32:54,520 --> 00:33:00,880 Speaker 1: at this combined Tuesday now the debacle of of sort 541 00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:03,920 Speaker 1: of an array of rationales that may or may not 542 00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:06,000 Speaker 1: be the reason why we launched the attack when we did, 543 00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:09,320 Speaker 1: we were going to do but whenever we did it, 544 00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:11,080 Speaker 1: it was a surprise, and we didn't have time to 545 00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:14,960 Speaker 1: worry about American citizens in the region. But we did 546 00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:24,040 Speaker 1: have six weeks build up of our military assets. 547 00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:25,520 Speaker 2: To say that this war is not. 548 00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:29,000 Speaker 1: Going well for the president, not helping his credibility as 549 00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:34,840 Speaker 1: an understatement, and you know this is exactly why. Look, 550 00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:36,959 Speaker 1: I think people did support him because he said, I'm 551 00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:39,000 Speaker 1: not going to get us into these quagmires because it's 552 00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:41,880 Speaker 1: a lot easier to start a war than it is 553 00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:48,640 Speaker 1: finish it. And you know, the opposition gets to say, 554 00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:51,920 Speaker 1: the people you attacked, the country you attack, there are 555 00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:54,320 Speaker 1: people that they're going to have their own say, and 556 00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:56,440 Speaker 1: they're going to have their own timeline, and they're going 557 00:33:56,520 --> 00:34:02,000 Speaker 1: to have their own survival strategy. You can't assume everybody 558 00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:06,560 Speaker 1: thinks like you, Right, It's one of the mistakes we 559 00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:09,960 Speaker 1: make in the press corps generally. I don't want to 560 00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:13,960 Speaker 1: assume everybody is thinking like me. But I'm just reacting 561 00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:16,759 Speaker 1: to what we're seeing. And I'm trying to give you 562 00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:20,960 Speaker 1: historical context for why this is the single most successful 563 00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:26,879 Speaker 1: military operation in my lifetime. Was the first Golf War. 564 00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:29,320 Speaker 1: George hw. 565 00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:37,680 Speaker 2: Bush did what he said. 566 00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:38,319 Speaker 1: And they said they were going to liberate Kuwait. They 567 00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:41,960 Speaker 1: liberated Kuwait and they left, and the American public was 568 00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:46,840 Speaker 1: extraordinary supportive of it, but they didn't reward George HW. 569 00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:52,040 Speaker 1: Bush politically within eighteen months he was in danger of 570 00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:56,200 Speaker 1: finishing third place in a three way presidential election, and 571 00:34:56,239 --> 00:34:58,520 Speaker 1: he ended up finishing a semi distant second. 572 00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:02,880 Speaker 2: That's under the best case. 573 00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:06,880 Speaker 1: Scenario for a military intervention in a country that starts 574 00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:12,560 Speaker 1: with I weren't a situation where he doesn't have any 575 00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:14,720 Speaker 1: of the same benefit of doubt that at George HW. 576 00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:18,640 Speaker 1: Bush did any of the same you know, there was 577 00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:22,640 Speaker 1: no you know in that. Again, both Bushes built a 578 00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:26,839 Speaker 1: coalition of supporters, took their case to the United Nation, 579 00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:30,040 Speaker 1: made their case to the American people, and frankly to 580 00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:36,239 Speaker 1: the world. Something this president has done noneough, And when 581 00:35:36,239 --> 00:35:39,120 Speaker 1: you've done none of that, you have no you have. 582 00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:41,879 Speaker 1: You know, all he has is his own political base 583 00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:45,440 Speaker 1: that he can hope will have his back, and he's 584 00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:48,680 Speaker 1: finding out not everybody does. It's interesting to me when 585 00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:52,240 Speaker 1: you look inside the numbers. Support for this operation among 586 00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:55,839 Speaker 1: Republicans is high, but it's not super high. It's it's 587 00:35:55,880 --> 00:36:00,640 Speaker 1: seventy six percent. And anytime you're actually under in eighty 588 00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:05,920 Speaker 1: percent with your own party on anything, that's actually a 589 00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:11,399 Speaker 1: bit problematic. It's true in job rating that when does 590 00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:15,719 Speaker 1: when do presidents now get concerned. Not when, not when 591 00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:20,080 Speaker 1: the overall number gets below say forty three, forty four, 592 00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:23,800 Speaker 1: it's when your your own party number gets below eighty. 593 00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:28,080 Speaker 1: In the most recent polls I've seen have all been 594 00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:30,560 Speaker 1: in at about the mid to high seventies of support, 595 00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:37,920 Speaker 1: with the rest of Republicans either against or in not 596 00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:44,479 Speaker 1: sure yet. That's not going to get better. That's only 597 00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:50,360 Speaker 1: going to slowly erode away. And you know, right in 598 00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:53,719 Speaker 1: the middle of the Texas primary the other night, get 599 00:36:53,719 --> 00:36:59,120 Speaker 1: a breaking news alert that we're suddenly using military assets 600 00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:06,200 Speaker 1: to go after cartels in Ecuador and we're claiming narco terrorism. 601 00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:11,160 Speaker 1: By the way, I think we still are owed a 602 00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:15,200 Speaker 1: better definition of narco terrorism. I think we're owed a 603 00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:19,440 Speaker 1: better explanation for our just what looks to many people 604 00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:24,000 Speaker 1: like indiscriminate bombings of these boats in the Near Pacific 605 00:37:24,040 --> 00:37:32,360 Speaker 1: and Caribbean. But this is, you know, this is the 606 00:37:32,520 --> 00:37:36,840 Speaker 1: issue here is the president has personalized this presidency. He 607 00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:39,560 Speaker 1: sees this as his military. He thinks he can just 608 00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:43,160 Speaker 1: you know, he has no ideology, he has no he's 609 00:37:43,160 --> 00:37:47,880 Speaker 1: a unilateralist. He's not a multilateralist. He's not a bilateralist. 610 00:37:48,680 --> 00:37:53,680 Speaker 1: He's not an isolationist. He is simply a unilateralist. What 611 00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:57,240 Speaker 1: he says goes, He hopes that's the way people behave 612 00:37:57,280 --> 00:38:02,080 Speaker 1: in politics. Is an endorsement like his his announcement that 613 00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:04,560 Speaker 1: when he endorses in the Texas center race, he expects 614 00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:09,000 Speaker 1: the candidate that doesn't get his endorsement to drop out. Yeah, 615 00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:13,000 Speaker 1: that would be better for him, just like he expected 616 00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:18,919 Speaker 1: the Iranian leaders to roll over like Delsi Rodriguez did 617 00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:22,920 Speaker 1: for him. That isn't the way the world always works. 618 00:38:23,239 --> 00:38:26,200 Speaker 1: That isn't the way life works for anybody. But he's 619 00:38:26,239 --> 00:38:28,920 Speaker 1: been deluded into thinking that he can make this happen 620 00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:32,359 Speaker 1: in his own presidency. And just because he's got sick 621 00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:35,040 Speaker 1: of fans around him that say sure, yes, sir and 622 00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:38,520 Speaker 1: all that business, doesn't mean this is actually how the 623 00:38:38,520 --> 00:38:44,799 Speaker 1: world operates. And this is a mess, and this is 624 00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:46,520 Speaker 1: a mess that doesn't look like it's going to get 625 00:38:46,520 --> 00:38:48,960 Speaker 1: better anytime soon. And the problem that Trump's going to 626 00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:51,360 Speaker 1: do is he is smart enough not to put boots 627 00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:54,520 Speaker 1: on the ground that would just not you know, he's 628 00:38:54,560 --> 00:38:56,600 Speaker 1: already going to be asking Congress for more money to 629 00:38:56,640 --> 00:38:59,600 Speaker 1: pay for this war. I think that I think it's 630 00:38:59,760 --> 00:39:06,200 Speaker 1: the floating is fifty billion dollars supplemental. I'm skeptical that 631 00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:10,080 Speaker 1: is going to be among the hardest votes that the 632 00:39:10,120 --> 00:39:15,319 Speaker 1: Republicans have had to jam through, I think, and I'm 633 00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:18,359 Speaker 1: not sure there's there's always been a handful of Democrats 634 00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:25,200 Speaker 1: that are very hawkish on Iran, But when this supplemental 635 00:39:25,239 --> 00:39:28,520 Speaker 1: comes with this lack of rationale, this is likely to 636 00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:32,640 Speaker 1: be a majority unpopular by the time they're asking for that. 637 00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:34,319 Speaker 1: That is going to be among the tougher votes to 638 00:39:34,360 --> 00:39:39,920 Speaker 1: do in an election year. So Tuesday night, right already 639 00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:45,239 Speaker 1: a bad night for Republicans, with a nasty runoff that's 640 00:39:45,239 --> 00:39:48,880 Speaker 1: about to happen in Texas, Democrats end up getting a 641 00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:54,240 Speaker 1: nominee that that appears to be more electable than Texas 642 00:39:54,280 --> 00:39:56,759 Speaker 1: than any nominee they've ever had before, or at least 643 00:39:56,760 --> 00:40:02,000 Speaker 1: going back since and Richard's. And then you have this 644 00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:06,239 Speaker 1: erratic nature of how the war is being conducted at 645 00:40:06,239 --> 00:40:10,200 Speaker 1: the moment, and for United States credibility, he's not going 646 00:40:10,239 --> 00:40:16,080 Speaker 1: to back down now, right, So I have a feeling 647 00:40:16,120 --> 00:40:20,480 Speaker 1: this is not just another issue he's got to deal with. 648 00:40:20,600 --> 00:40:25,960 Speaker 1: This is going to be the issue that dominates and 649 00:40:26,040 --> 00:40:32,480 Speaker 1: overtakes his presidency. And I guess what's amazing about this 650 00:40:32,600 --> 00:40:37,560 Speaker 1: is that it was a choice, and I think it's 651 00:40:37,600 --> 00:40:40,279 Speaker 1: a choice that he's someday going to regret. He may 652 00:40:40,400 --> 00:40:42,719 Speaker 1: already regret it, and I can tell you this, we 653 00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:46,360 Speaker 1: already know jd Vance already regrets it. I was a 654 00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:49,799 Speaker 1: bit of a hot take with chrys Elizabeth. I do 655 00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:55,000 Speaker 1: think this is at the heart of the political identity 656 00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:57,600 Speaker 1: that jad Vance has tried to forge, and he now 657 00:40:57,640 --> 00:41:00,840 Speaker 1: has to defend an administration that does the exact opposite 658 00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:05,080 Speaker 1: of of what he's been advocating and his rationale for 659 00:41:05,160 --> 00:41:06,960 Speaker 1: why he was on Team Trump in the first place. 660 00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:11,760 Speaker 1: I think it when something gets it to the core 661 00:41:11,840 --> 00:41:16,160 Speaker 1: of who you are, of your political identity, and you 662 00:41:16,239 --> 00:41:20,400 Speaker 1: suddenly have to just flip on it, you never recover. 663 00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:24,920 Speaker 1: Doesn't mean he won't get the nomination, but you never 664 00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:32,319 Speaker 1: recover that that is a tattoo, right that is going 665 00:41:32,400 --> 00:41:35,399 Speaker 1: to be hard to erase from the public's mind. 666 00:41:36,120 --> 00:41:38,760 Speaker 2: All Right, Before I get to Chris's interview, a few other. 667 00:41:40,560 --> 00:41:42,759 Speaker 1: Basically, I've had a notebook of items that I've not 668 00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:47,239 Speaker 1: been able to get to for some time. Quickly on 669 00:41:47,320 --> 00:41:51,600 Speaker 1: the on the president's pronouncement that he's going to endorse 670 00:41:51,600 --> 00:41:55,240 Speaker 1: in the Texas Republican primary, and he expects the candidate 671 00:41:55,239 --> 00:41:59,880 Speaker 1: he doesn't endorse to drop out. And all the reporting 672 00:41:59,920 --> 00:42:03,160 Speaker 1: is indicating that Cornyn is that Dune has convinced him 673 00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:04,840 Speaker 1: to do this, and everybody's going to convince him to 674 00:42:04,880 --> 00:42:09,320 Speaker 1: do Corny, Why are we so convinced that Ken Paxton 675 00:42:09,440 --> 00:42:12,000 Speaker 1: is just going to say, Okay, I'll drop out now 676 00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:15,399 Speaker 1: he's going to expect something in return. This is look 677 00:42:15,440 --> 00:42:20,520 Speaker 1: Donald Trump has created a Republican transactional mindset that if 678 00:42:20,520 --> 00:42:24,480 Speaker 1: you want something, if you want somebody to do something, 679 00:42:24,520 --> 00:42:26,400 Speaker 1: you're going to have to get to give something in return. 680 00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:29,759 Speaker 1: So what's Trump going to offer Paxton to get out 681 00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:32,759 Speaker 1: early and to try to save the Republican Party? One 682 00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:36,000 Speaker 1: hundred million dollars that's probably what it would cost, and 683 00:42:36,040 --> 00:42:39,040 Speaker 1: it's no guarantee that they'd win this runoff anyway, which 684 00:42:39,080 --> 00:42:41,279 Speaker 1: of them, Which means they're going to privately spend three 685 00:42:41,360 --> 00:42:44,960 Speaker 1: or four hundred million dollars to try to rescue Paxton. 686 00:42:44,960 --> 00:42:47,200 Speaker 1: And it's not really rescue Paxton, it's just to destroy 687 00:42:47,280 --> 00:42:51,160 Speaker 1: Tall Rico. So you're looking at I think they're looking 688 00:42:51,160 --> 00:43:00,239 Speaker 1: that can they save a half a billion dollars what's 689 00:43:00,239 --> 00:43:02,319 Speaker 1: he going to offer Paxton? Is there an ambassadorship that 690 00:43:02,360 --> 00:43:03,040 Speaker 1: he wants? 691 00:43:04,360 --> 00:43:04,759 Speaker 2: Is this? 692 00:43:05,239 --> 00:43:08,040 Speaker 1: Is this actually the exit ramp for Christy no Right, 693 00:43:08,080 --> 00:43:13,160 Speaker 1: who is clearly going to be the scapegoat for the 694 00:43:13,239 --> 00:43:16,359 Speaker 1: unpopular immigration enforcement policies of this administration? 695 00:43:16,480 --> 00:43:19,520 Speaker 2: She is it is? I think she now knows it's coming. 696 00:43:20,120 --> 00:43:20,760 Speaker 2: It's clear. 697 00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:23,359 Speaker 1: It's not a matter of if she's out, it's when 698 00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:24,919 Speaker 1: they decide to pull the trigger there? 699 00:43:26,840 --> 00:43:28,200 Speaker 2: Does John Thune agree? 700 00:43:28,600 --> 00:43:31,880 Speaker 1: Does John Cornyn agree to somehow help confirm Ken Paxton 701 00:43:31,960 --> 00:43:34,600 Speaker 1: as the next DHS secretary to replace no. 702 00:43:36,960 --> 00:43:37,160 Speaker 2: Right? 703 00:43:37,920 --> 00:43:42,640 Speaker 1: How what kind of bargain are Trump, Thoon, and Cornan 704 00:43:42,880 --> 00:43:47,080 Speaker 1: willing to strike to get Paxton out of the way 705 00:43:47,200 --> 00:43:50,719 Speaker 1: somebody who they've made the case is morally bankrupt, by 706 00:43:50,760 --> 00:43:54,400 Speaker 1: the way, not Donald Trump, but Thuone and Cornyn have. 707 00:43:57,440 --> 00:44:00,480 Speaker 1: But the point is is I I I just got 708 00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:03,759 Speaker 1: to get somebody to quit magically, And there's nothing more 709 00:44:03,800 --> 00:44:06,440 Speaker 1: embarrassing to Trump. You know why Trump wants Paxton to 710 00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:06,960 Speaker 1: drop out. 711 00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:11,560 Speaker 2: He knows Paxter could win. 712 00:44:12,719 --> 00:44:16,840 Speaker 1: Corny's not a believable mega guy. Look, Trump still matters 713 00:44:16,840 --> 00:44:20,279 Speaker 1: in the Republican Party, just as chip Roy. Chip Roy, 714 00:44:20,360 --> 00:44:22,080 Speaker 1: while he made it to the runoff in the attorney 715 00:44:22,120 --> 00:44:24,600 Speaker 1: general's race in Texas finished kind of a distant second. 716 00:44:24,600 --> 00:44:28,000 Speaker 1: He's unlikely to win this runouf And you know why. 717 00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:35,280 Speaker 1: His primary opponent who defeated him essentially made the case 718 00:44:35,320 --> 00:44:39,440 Speaker 1: that chip Roy wasn't a trumpy guy and noted that 719 00:44:39,560 --> 00:44:43,719 Speaker 1: chip Roy was essentially thought the election de nihilism was 720 00:44:44,080 --> 00:44:50,320 Speaker 1: silly and thought fighting, you know, essentially fighting going against 721 00:44:50,360 --> 00:44:55,040 Speaker 1: certification was a bad idea. So the point is is 722 00:44:55,080 --> 00:45:00,000 Speaker 1: that chip Roy was damaged when a campaign was running 723 00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:04,000 Speaker 1: against him, that he wasn't sufficiently pro Trump. So I'm 724 00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:06,360 Speaker 1: not you know, Trump is it? But this is the 725 00:45:06,440 --> 00:45:09,120 Speaker 1: trap that Republicans are in right now. You can't get 726 00:45:09,160 --> 00:45:13,200 Speaker 1: out of a primary without Trump, and right now Trump 727 00:45:13,239 --> 00:45:15,280 Speaker 1: is baggage if you're trying to win a general election 728 00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:19,399 Speaker 1: in a fairly competitive state. You know, a light from 729 00:45:19,520 --> 00:45:24,320 Speaker 1: light red to purple. And I think the question we 730 00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:26,719 Speaker 1: all have in our minds is Texas now light red? 731 00:45:27,239 --> 00:45:32,239 Speaker 1: It's not purple, but is it now light red? I 732 00:45:32,239 --> 00:45:35,640 Speaker 1: think of Paxson's nominee. Yes, the answer to that is yes. 733 00:45:36,200 --> 00:45:38,360 Speaker 1: A few more thoughts in tall Rico. It is interesting 734 00:45:38,400 --> 00:45:41,960 Speaker 1: to watch the coalition that he ended up building and 735 00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:44,960 Speaker 1: I think the biggest vulnerability he's going to have it 736 00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:47,239 Speaker 1: in general is that he's a lot more progressive than 737 00:45:47,280 --> 00:45:51,000 Speaker 1: his persona. Let's on right, being a pastor, and this 738 00:45:51,080 --> 00:45:57,080 Speaker 1: is a reminder. You can be an ideological conservative or progressive, 739 00:45:57,120 --> 00:45:59,960 Speaker 1: but if you have a moderate persona, you can win 740 00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:03,719 Speaker 1: over swing voters who may may not who if you 741 00:46:03,920 --> 00:46:09,560 Speaker 1: seem like you're reasonable to deal with right, which. 742 00:46:09,520 --> 00:46:10,359 Speaker 2: Can explain to mom. 743 00:46:10,440 --> 00:46:13,919 Speaker 1: Donnie and I grew up with a conservative senator named 744 00:46:13,920 --> 00:46:17,200 Speaker 1: Connie Mack, who is quite conservative. Would argue probably more 745 00:46:17,200 --> 00:46:21,360 Speaker 1: conservative than either Rick Scott or Mark or Ruby on 746 00:46:21,440 --> 00:46:24,960 Speaker 1: some things. But Connie mac always had a smile on 747 00:46:24,960 --> 00:46:27,880 Speaker 1: his face. He used to call him the conservative with 748 00:46:27,960 --> 00:46:33,920 Speaker 1: a smile demeanor is everything. Ronald Reagan very conservative. We 749 00:46:34,000 --> 00:46:38,080 Speaker 1: always had a smile on his face. Moderate temperament, and 750 00:46:38,120 --> 00:46:42,319 Speaker 1: that could be the secret Tall Rico right. Strident liberalism 751 00:46:42,360 --> 00:46:51,200 Speaker 1: and strident conservatism turn off the middle. Something potentially to 752 00:46:51,239 --> 00:46:54,000 Speaker 1: be learned here, But I is look. I think, on 753 00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:56,440 Speaker 1: one hand, I think the Tall Rico victory sends a 754 00:46:56,440 --> 00:47:02,280 Speaker 1: message nationally that hey, Demo was running some errands Wednesday 755 00:47:02,280 --> 00:47:09,279 Speaker 1: morning and ran into an acquaintance, all right, And I 756 00:47:09,400 --> 00:47:13,080 Speaker 1: was just sort of complaining that I was tired from 757 00:47:13,480 --> 00:47:17,600 Speaker 1: the late night covering the Texas primaries. And this person 758 00:47:17,600 --> 00:47:18,880 Speaker 1: said to me, oh, that's right. 759 00:47:18,840 --> 00:47:19,680 Speaker 2: Was that last night? 760 00:47:20,640 --> 00:47:23,359 Speaker 1: And I said yeah, And he's like, who won? And 761 00:47:23,560 --> 00:47:26,920 Speaker 1: this is a person I've never really talked like hardcore 762 00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:29,680 Speaker 1: politics with, just sort of like, boy, it's crazy out there. 763 00:47:29,719 --> 00:47:32,799 Speaker 1: It's sort of the atmospheric. I have this whole group 764 00:47:32,840 --> 00:47:34,800 Speaker 1: of people. I'm sure some of you have this where 765 00:47:35,320 --> 00:47:37,279 Speaker 1: you kind of talk about politics like you talk about 766 00:47:37,280 --> 00:47:39,400 Speaker 1: the weather. It's like, man, it's nuts out there today, 767 00:47:39,640 --> 00:47:41,600 Speaker 1: you know, or something like that, and you just kind 768 00:47:41,600 --> 00:47:42,959 Speaker 1: of say it and then you don't say anything else. 769 00:47:42,880 --> 00:47:45,320 Speaker 2: Because you don't really want to get into a conversation. 770 00:47:44,880 --> 00:47:47,879 Speaker 1: Because you're not one hundred percent sure where they fit, 771 00:47:47,960 --> 00:47:51,200 Speaker 1: but you know that they will agree. Oh yeah, it 772 00:47:51,280 --> 00:47:56,839 Speaker 1: is crazy. You know, everything's crazy in Washington. And I said, oh, 773 00:47:56,880 --> 00:47:58,920 Speaker 1: I said, And they said, well who won? I was 774 00:47:59,560 --> 00:48:01,600 Speaker 1: following that one guy and I said, you mean the 775 00:48:01,920 --> 00:48:04,920 Speaker 1: young pastor? Yeah, yeah, yeah, that guy. I said, well 776 00:48:04,920 --> 00:48:06,799 Speaker 1: he won the primary. And he goes, oh, I'm kind 777 00:48:06,800 --> 00:48:09,239 Speaker 1: of glad to see that. I'm tired of the bomb throwers. 778 00:48:10,239 --> 00:48:10,960 Speaker 2: And I wouldn't have. 779 00:48:11,640 --> 00:48:13,760 Speaker 1: You know, I think this person truly is someone who's 780 00:48:13,760 --> 00:48:16,719 Speaker 1: sort of a small business owner. For what it's worth, 781 00:48:17,320 --> 00:48:19,200 Speaker 1: I'm not a very political person. I know it's hard 782 00:48:19,200 --> 00:48:20,840 Speaker 1: to say that in Washington, but believe it or not, 783 00:48:20,920 --> 00:48:23,200 Speaker 1: there's a chunk of people that just happened to live 784 00:48:23,200 --> 00:48:26,040 Speaker 1: in Washington and it's the nation's capital. Doesn't mean not 785 00:48:26,160 --> 00:48:31,160 Speaker 1: everybody works in either in government or a derivative of government. 786 00:48:31,800 --> 00:48:35,239 Speaker 1: There's a there's a chunk of folks who are, you know, 787 00:48:35,360 --> 00:48:38,120 Speaker 1: no different than small business owners in Kansas City, des Moin, 788 00:48:38,120 --> 00:48:42,319 Speaker 1: et cetera. But it was that bomb thrower, right, And 789 00:48:42,400 --> 00:48:45,799 Speaker 1: I've been talking to you guys about where's the Democratic 790 00:48:45,840 --> 00:48:48,480 Speaker 1: Party divide are they? Are they looking for a fighter 791 00:48:48,680 --> 00:48:49,680 Speaker 1: or a uniter. 792 00:48:50,880 --> 00:48:54,399 Speaker 2: And or are they looking for. 793 00:48:54,400 --> 00:48:59,759 Speaker 1: A bomb thrower or a peacemaker? And I was a 794 00:48:59,760 --> 00:49:02,120 Speaker 1: lit little skeptical that peacemaker was going to work. And 795 00:49:02,640 --> 00:49:06,920 Speaker 1: it's very possible this is a Texas Democratic thing less, 796 00:49:06,920 --> 00:49:09,160 Speaker 1: so everywhere else we're going to find out, Right, it 797 00:49:09,200 --> 00:49:14,440 Speaker 1: could be that main Democrats want something different, but as 798 00:49:14,480 --> 00:49:16,719 Speaker 1: a first impression to the party, it's probably doing the 799 00:49:16,760 --> 00:49:20,440 Speaker 1: Democratic Party brand some good that their first winner is 800 00:49:20,480 --> 00:49:24,360 Speaker 1: not a bomb thrower, Right, it is if you followed, 801 00:49:24,719 --> 00:49:27,520 Speaker 1: and it's one of those things if you follow politics online. 802 00:49:28,360 --> 00:49:31,240 Speaker 1: It looks like the Democrats are trying to emulate Trump, 803 00:49:32,080 --> 00:49:36,319 Speaker 1: bomb thrower, all this business. But it's interesting to me 804 00:49:36,400 --> 00:49:40,120 Speaker 1: that in real life they perhaps voters behaved differently. Here 805 00:49:40,800 --> 00:49:46,160 Speaker 1: it's one race, one state, one state who's got a 806 00:49:46,160 --> 00:49:49,160 Speaker 1: whole bunch of people who you know, Democrats who haven't 807 00:49:49,160 --> 00:49:50,960 Speaker 1: won in a long time, so they'll you know, they're 808 00:49:50,960 --> 00:49:56,040 Speaker 1: looking for anybody they view as electable. But it's an 809 00:49:56,080 --> 00:49:59,399 Speaker 1: interesting it's an interesting thing to watch. 810 00:50:00,120 --> 00:50:00,879 Speaker 2: Truly is a trip. 811 00:50:03,360 --> 00:50:06,080 Speaker 1: All right, let me sneak in a break and when 812 00:50:06,080 --> 00:50:09,160 Speaker 1: we come back, my full on debrief all things. 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It 876 00:53:35,160 --> 00:53:37,560 Speaker 1: was perfect with breaking news as we were taping this 877 00:53:37,640 --> 00:53:40,160 Speaker 1: pod for the weekend, and sometimes you're relieved when it 878 00:53:40,200 --> 00:53:42,320 Speaker 1: happens while you're still in the midst of taping and 879 00:53:42,360 --> 00:53:45,319 Speaker 1: the big breaking news with Steve Daines calling it a 880 00:53:45,400 --> 00:53:50,160 Speaker 1: career in Montana and doing it within seconds of the 881 00:53:50,280 --> 00:53:53,080 Speaker 1: end of the filing deadline. Look, I'm coming to you 882 00:53:53,120 --> 00:53:58,800 Speaker 1: pretty cold on this, but if you recall a couple 883 00:53:58,800 --> 00:54:00,840 Speaker 1: of a couple of months ago when I was talking 884 00:54:00,920 --> 00:54:06,080 Speaker 1: about the what you what were you would likely to 885 00:54:06,200 --> 00:54:10,000 Speaker 1: see as this, you know that there would probably be 886 00:54:10,120 --> 00:54:14,880 Speaker 1: some more retirements that we weren't expecting. This will put Montana, 887 00:54:15,200 --> 00:54:17,960 Speaker 1: this is, this is going to put the Montana sentence 888 00:54:17,960 --> 00:54:21,120 Speaker 1: heat completely really in play. Now there will be a 889 00:54:21,480 --> 00:54:24,040 Speaker 1: maybe there's a Republican primary, or maybe there's a quick 890 00:54:24,120 --> 00:54:26,680 Speaker 1: endorsement and maybe there's a deal. Maybe this is why 891 00:54:26,760 --> 00:54:29,120 Speaker 1: Zinke's we're going to figure all this out. 892 00:54:29,160 --> 00:54:31,280 Speaker 2: And I'm I'm, I'm you know. 893 00:54:31,200 --> 00:54:34,400 Speaker 1: But the bottom line is Montana is a competitive state. 894 00:54:35,360 --> 00:54:38,319 Speaker 1: We've already seen. The question now is whether does this 895 00:54:38,400 --> 00:54:42,799 Speaker 1: Independent Canada get more traction? Is there pressure on John 896 00:54:42,880 --> 00:54:49,640 Speaker 1: Tester to come out of retirement. I'm I have there's 897 00:54:49,680 --> 00:54:52,799 Speaker 1: every indication in the interactions I've had with with with 898 00:54:52,920 --> 00:54:53,520 Speaker 1: John over. 899 00:54:53,360 --> 00:54:54,320 Speaker 2: The last few months. 900 00:54:55,080 --> 00:54:57,200 Speaker 1: I'd be surprised he wants to get off that tractor 901 00:54:57,200 --> 00:54:59,040 Speaker 1: now that he gets to be on that tractor every day. 902 00:54:59,160 --> 00:55:02,480 Speaker 1: So I don't think he's going I would be surprised 903 00:55:02,520 --> 00:55:05,520 Speaker 1: if he did. But now we've got an open House seat, 904 00:55:05,560 --> 00:55:10,640 Speaker 1: an open Senate seat, Montana is going to be a 905 00:55:10,920 --> 00:55:16,080 Speaker 1: now key cog in campaign twenty twenty six, and it's 906 00:55:16,120 --> 00:55:20,600 Speaker 1: going to be an interesting test because Montana is a 907 00:55:20,640 --> 00:55:24,280 Speaker 1: red state, but it's a libertarian red state, right, It's different, 908 00:55:26,160 --> 00:55:31,480 Speaker 1: and there is a skepticism of of you know, of 909 00:55:31,600 --> 00:55:35,480 Speaker 1: strong government, right Trump is not, you know, this is 910 00:55:35,560 --> 00:55:38,120 Speaker 1: this is a bit more of a libertarian conservative state 911 00:55:38,239 --> 00:55:43,759 Speaker 1: rather than a strong government conservative state. So it's you know, 912 00:55:43,840 --> 00:55:46,560 Speaker 1: the right type of you know, you've got to be 913 00:55:46,600 --> 00:55:49,440 Speaker 1: a pro Second Amendment Democrat if you want to win 914 00:55:49,480 --> 00:55:54,279 Speaker 1: state wide in Montana. And you know, but being skeptical 915 00:55:54,320 --> 00:55:58,160 Speaker 1: of too much development is actually a good thing in Montana. 916 00:55:58,200 --> 00:56:01,560 Speaker 1: And sometimes that you know, Democrats have done well when 917 00:56:01,600 --> 00:56:06,839 Speaker 1: they've been able to paint a Republican as a sort 918 00:56:06,880 --> 00:56:12,239 Speaker 1: of as a transplant, if you will, or somebody that 919 00:56:12,360 --> 00:56:14,839 Speaker 1: just sort of you know, has moved to Montana. There's 920 00:56:14,840 --> 00:56:18,000 Speaker 1: a real sort of are you native not native divide 921 00:56:18,280 --> 00:56:22,840 Speaker 1: there if you watch Yellowstone at all. In fact, I 922 00:56:22,880 --> 00:56:24,880 Speaker 1: think in season four and season five, that becomes a 923 00:56:25,600 --> 00:56:30,399 Speaker 1: piece of that of that storyline, which is the skepticism 924 00:56:30,400 --> 00:56:33,680 Speaker 1: of the outsiders coming in and fear that Montana is 925 00:56:33,680 --> 00:56:37,600 Speaker 1: going to become the next Colorado, right, Colorado's politics. You 926 00:56:37,680 --> 00:56:41,000 Speaker 1: talk to old Cranky conservative libertarian conservatives in Colorado, and 927 00:56:41,000 --> 00:56:44,239 Speaker 1: they'll tell you this state changed when the Californians moved here, 928 00:56:44,320 --> 00:56:47,680 Speaker 1: and that's what you hear from some Now Montana's this 929 00:56:47,760 --> 00:56:50,320 Speaker 1: state's changing now that the Californians and the New Yorkers 930 00:56:50,320 --> 00:56:52,759 Speaker 1: are coming, because I think there's now a NonStop from 931 00:56:52,840 --> 00:56:58,680 Speaker 1: LaGuardia to Bozeman, right, And you would think, is that 932 00:56:58,760 --> 00:57:01,520 Speaker 1: a good thing for both or do they not want 933 00:57:01,640 --> 00:57:02,080 Speaker 1: to make. 934 00:57:01,960 --> 00:57:04,399 Speaker 2: It so easy for the East Coasters to come in? 935 00:57:06,080 --> 00:57:06,799 Speaker 2: But this is a. 936 00:57:08,640 --> 00:57:11,959 Speaker 1: What's amazing about Danes doing this at the last minute? Again, 937 00:57:12,800 --> 00:57:16,560 Speaker 1: one assumes, since he was an actual NRSC chair a 938 00:57:16,600 --> 00:57:20,800 Speaker 1: cycle ago, in charge of helping to get Republicans elected 939 00:57:20,800 --> 00:57:24,160 Speaker 1: to the Senate, that there is some sort of plan here, 940 00:57:25,280 --> 00:57:28,200 Speaker 1: because this puts the Republicans on the defensive. This is 941 00:57:28,240 --> 00:57:30,960 Speaker 1: a This is not an easy seat. This is like 942 00:57:31,080 --> 00:57:36,320 Speaker 1: defending an open seat in Alaska. The Republicans are favored, 943 00:57:37,280 --> 00:57:44,200 Speaker 1: but it's going to be some work. But I can't 944 00:57:44,200 --> 00:57:46,360 Speaker 1: help but go back to what I said at the 945 00:57:46,400 --> 00:57:51,560 Speaker 1: start of this calendar year about the growing number of retirements, 946 00:57:51,560 --> 00:57:53,320 Speaker 1: And granted that was more on the House side than 947 00:57:53,360 --> 00:57:55,120 Speaker 1: it is on the Senate side, but as these filing 948 00:57:55,160 --> 00:57:56,840 Speaker 1: deadlines were coming up that you were going to have 949 00:57:56,880 --> 00:57:59,120 Speaker 1: some that we're going to have second thoughts. Did they 950 00:57:59,160 --> 00:58:02,240 Speaker 1: want to tie them to Trump for one more election cycle? 951 00:58:02,600 --> 00:58:03,360 Speaker 2: Do they see the. 952 00:58:03,360 --> 00:58:05,000 Speaker 1: Riding on the wall? Do they want to be in 953 00:58:05,000 --> 00:58:09,840 Speaker 1: the minority? There is you know, again where we'll find 954 00:58:09,880 --> 00:58:13,440 Speaker 1: out all of his rationale. I'm admittedly coming to you 955 00:58:13,520 --> 00:58:17,600 Speaker 1: with very other than the news that he's not running, 956 00:58:18,120 --> 00:58:20,240 Speaker 1: and we're going to get more information about that. But 957 00:58:20,280 --> 00:58:25,080 Speaker 1: the reality is an open seat means competition, and this 958 00:58:25,240 --> 00:58:27,720 Speaker 1: was already a race that Democrats were trying to figure 959 00:58:27,760 --> 00:58:29,480 Speaker 1: out do they try to put it in play getting 960 00:58:29,520 --> 00:58:32,120 Speaker 1: behind an independent candidate, or is there is there another 961 00:58:32,160 --> 00:58:34,960 Speaker 1: way to do this? Well, now they're definitely going to play. 962 00:58:35,560 --> 00:58:39,200 Speaker 1: And the question is what you know? Basically, it's it's 963 00:58:39,240 --> 00:58:42,360 Speaker 1: as if the you know, you played my father's favorite 964 00:58:42,360 --> 00:58:43,960 Speaker 1: card game when I was five years old. 965 00:58:43,800 --> 00:58:44,640 Speaker 2: Fifty two pickups. 966 00:58:44,680 --> 00:58:46,600 Speaker 1: Right, You've just thrown all the cards, the deck of 967 00:58:46,640 --> 00:58:48,800 Speaker 1: cards up in the air, and now we've got to 968 00:58:48,840 --> 00:58:51,080 Speaker 1: figure out where everything is going to end up and 969 00:58:51,120 --> 00:58:56,920 Speaker 1: where everything's going to play. But that's another seat to 970 00:58:57,040 --> 00:59:00,720 Speaker 1: defend in a place that Democrats have had success in 971 00:59:00,760 --> 00:59:05,760 Speaker 1: the past. Particularly in midterm years. It is it is 972 00:59:05,800 --> 00:59:08,480 Speaker 1: a lot easier for a Democrat to pull off a 973 00:59:08,560 --> 00:59:12,120 Speaker 1: victory in a midterm year in Montana than it is 974 00:59:12,160 --> 00:59:16,160 Speaker 1: in a presidential year. That is a much harder task, 975 00:59:16,160 --> 00:59:21,800 Speaker 1: particularly for Senate candidates. But boy, this week keeps getting 976 00:59:21,840 --> 00:59:25,400 Speaker 1: worse for the Republicans. Right you have a White House 977 00:59:25,440 --> 00:59:28,200 Speaker 1: completely distracted by the the you know when was the 978 00:59:28,280 --> 00:59:31,880 Speaker 1: last time they did affordability pitch. It's the infrastructure week 979 00:59:32,000 --> 00:59:34,640 Speaker 1: of of. 980 00:59:33,840 --> 00:59:35,000 Speaker 2: This term for Trump. 981 00:59:36,680 --> 00:59:39,960 Speaker 1: He is bogging the party down to having to defend 982 00:59:40,000 --> 00:59:42,080 Speaker 1: something that is not going to be very popular. That's 983 00:59:42,120 --> 00:59:45,400 Speaker 1: taking place in Iran. And now they have more places 984 00:59:45,440 --> 00:59:48,400 Speaker 1: where their their vulnerability is going to be. Uh, it 985 00:59:48,480 --> 00:59:55,440 Speaker 1: is going to be on the ballot. So Democrats Haley Barberism. 986 00:59:55,480 --> 01:00:00,640 Speaker 1: Good gets better and bad gets worse. I think we 987 01:00:00,800 --> 01:00:02,360 Speaker 1: just have a week of headlines that show you for 988 01:00:02,400 --> 01:00:04,880 Speaker 1: the Democrats, good has gotten better. They got the Candida 989 01:00:04,960 --> 01:00:08,640 Speaker 1: they want it, no runoff. Republicans haven't run off. Now 990 01:00:08,680 --> 01:00:11,120 Speaker 1: they got a new open seat they can target. Good 991 01:00:11,160 --> 01:00:15,240 Speaker 1: got better, Bad got worse. They're stuck going to run off. 992 01:00:16,160 --> 01:00:20,040 Speaker 1: The President's demanding somebody drop out. We'll see if that happens. 993 01:00:20,800 --> 01:00:24,919 Speaker 1: They have another incumbent deciding I'm out. I'm not doing 994 01:00:24,920 --> 01:00:28,600 Speaker 1: this anymore for whatever reason that is. And oh, by 995 01:00:28,640 --> 01:00:35,000 Speaker 1: the way, he just started a war that is polarizing 996 01:00:35,000 --> 01:00:40,120 Speaker 1: at best and shifting towards potentially majority unpopular at worse. 997 01:00:41,000 --> 01:00:47,320 Speaker 1: Bad is getting worse, ass Chuck, Hey, Chuck, watching your 998 01:00:47,360 --> 01:00:48,920 Speaker 1: live stream and the Texas primary night. 999 01:00:49,040 --> 01:00:49,720 Speaker 2: Love the coverage. 1000 01:00:49,720 --> 01:00:52,120 Speaker 1: I'm curious of states that are traditionally red or blue 1001 01:00:52,160 --> 01:00:54,880 Speaker 1: get less federal investment than swing states. Does a traditionally 1002 01:00:54,880 --> 01:00:57,120 Speaker 1: red state like Texas get taken for granted by the 1003 01:00:57,200 --> 01:00:59,120 Speaker 1: right and ignored by the left, while Ohio gets all 1004 01:00:59,120 --> 01:01:01,960 Speaker 1: the infrastrucure investments as both sides try to woo their 1005 01:01:02,040 --> 01:01:03,720 Speaker 1: vote for example. If this is the case, I wonder 1006 01:01:03,720 --> 01:01:06,200 Speaker 1: i people would feel a little worse about the jerrymandering 1007 01:01:06,240 --> 01:01:08,800 Speaker 1: that locks the state's representation in for a particular party. 1008 01:01:10,040 --> 01:01:11,920 Speaker 1: He goes thanks to his PS I listened to your 1009 01:01:11,920 --> 01:01:14,720 Speaker 1: podcast on one point three speed, and my girlfriend listens 1010 01:01:14,760 --> 01:01:17,680 Speaker 1: at regular speed. This may end up being our deal breaker. 1011 01:01:18,560 --> 01:01:19,160 Speaker 2: That's interesting. 1012 01:01:19,200 --> 01:01:21,160 Speaker 1: I already feel like I'm kind of a fast talker, 1013 01:01:21,360 --> 01:01:23,080 Speaker 1: so I don't know how I feel about being on 1014 01:01:23,080 --> 01:01:25,280 Speaker 1: one pay feed. And if I start speeding up. What 1015 01:01:25,320 --> 01:01:27,160 Speaker 1: does it sound like if you put this on one 1016 01:01:27,200 --> 01:01:30,320 Speaker 1: point three speed? All right, I know I'm coming across. 1017 01:01:30,800 --> 01:01:32,560 Speaker 1: I was going to make a reference to the to 1018 01:01:32,640 --> 01:01:34,600 Speaker 1: a FedEx AD from the late eighties, and I thought, 1019 01:01:34,640 --> 01:01:37,760 Speaker 1: wait a minute, I'm guessing you have no idea what 1020 01:01:37,840 --> 01:01:42,520 Speaker 1: I'm talking about. So I'll give you a better example 1021 01:01:42,560 --> 01:01:46,000 Speaker 1: than what you just describe. You know why I have ethanol. 1022 01:01:46,440 --> 01:01:50,680 Speaker 1: Why we all put ethanol in an ethanol mixture in 1023 01:01:51,080 --> 01:01:54,360 Speaker 1: our cars for gasoline, It's because I was a first 1024 01:01:54,400 --> 01:01:57,640 Speaker 1: in the nation state for the presidential caucuses over the 1025 01:01:57,760 --> 01:02:01,120 Speaker 1: last forty years, and you've had candidates on both sides 1026 01:02:01,120 --> 01:02:04,040 Speaker 1: of the alpander to the ethanol industry. That's a big 1027 01:02:04,080 --> 01:02:07,840 Speaker 1: deal in Iowa. So being you know, being a presidential 1028 01:02:07,880 --> 01:02:11,960 Speaker 1: primary state, your issues matter. You know, I promise you 1029 01:02:12,000 --> 01:02:16,400 Speaker 1: if Nevada it stays first in the nation, Yuca Mountain 1030 01:02:16,480 --> 01:02:19,840 Speaker 1: is never going to be a place where our nuclear 1031 01:02:19,880 --> 01:02:21,920 Speaker 1: waste gets dumped because you'll never be able to win 1032 01:02:21,920 --> 01:02:25,840 Speaker 1: the Nevada caucuses if you're a presidential candidate saying no, 1033 01:02:25,960 --> 01:02:28,440 Speaker 1: we should put our nuclear waste in the desert in Nevada. 1034 01:02:30,040 --> 01:02:33,680 Speaker 1: The point is the answer is yes. Now Texas is 1035 01:02:33,720 --> 01:02:37,000 Speaker 1: not the best example because Texas being such a when 1036 01:02:37,080 --> 01:02:44,160 Speaker 1: Republicans are in power, just like Texas benefits when Democrats 1037 01:02:44,160 --> 01:02:47,720 Speaker 1: are in power, California, New York benefit and you see 1038 01:02:47,760 --> 01:02:50,880 Speaker 1: it directly. And why do they benefit. Well, a lot 1039 01:02:50,920 --> 01:02:51,200 Speaker 1: of the. 1040 01:02:51,160 --> 01:02:53,440 Speaker 2: Time the leaders. 1041 01:02:54,600 --> 01:03:01,480 Speaker 1: Of Congress end up coming from some the largest delegations, 1042 01:03:02,120 --> 01:03:07,800 Speaker 1: and maybe they'll be the top leader like Schumer New York, Pelosi, California, 1043 01:03:08,160 --> 01:03:12,640 Speaker 1: Aking Jeffreys, New York, or they're you know, the number 1044 01:03:12,640 --> 01:03:15,280 Speaker 1: two or number three you know in this right, John 1045 01:03:15,320 --> 01:03:21,400 Speaker 1: Corny and Ranford leader he once was you've got you know, 1046 01:03:21,480 --> 01:03:24,880 Speaker 1: back in the early odts, Tom Delay essentially ran Congress. 1047 01:03:24,920 --> 01:03:29,520 Speaker 1: He was a suburban Houston member of Congress, Dick Army. 1048 01:03:29,520 --> 01:03:31,200 Speaker 1: There was a time that Texas had number two and 1049 01:03:31,360 --> 01:03:34,920 Speaker 1: number three in the House leadership. So I don't know 1050 01:03:34,920 --> 01:03:37,760 Speaker 1: if Texas is the best example on that front. 1051 01:03:37,760 --> 01:03:41,160 Speaker 2: But the point is the point is. 1052 01:03:43,920 --> 01:03:48,520 Speaker 1: Your instinct is spot on right, which is the more 1053 01:03:48,640 --> 01:03:52,680 Speaker 1: competitive of a of an area that you are, the 1054 01:03:52,760 --> 01:03:57,040 Speaker 1: more likely candidates are going to pander with you, with 1055 01:03:59,360 --> 01:04:02,920 Speaker 1: to fight for you on certain issues inside the federal government. 1056 01:04:03,480 --> 01:04:07,120 Speaker 1: And if you're consistently a swing state or a swing 1057 01:04:07,560 --> 01:04:10,840 Speaker 1: area or all of this, like Iowa was for about 1058 01:04:11,120 --> 01:04:15,680 Speaker 1: thirty years. And magically ethanol is going to be something 1059 01:04:15,720 --> 01:04:17,480 Speaker 1: that you pump into your car whether you're in the 1060 01:04:17,480 --> 01:04:20,720 Speaker 1: state of Florida, state of Alaska, or the state of Iowa. 1061 01:04:22,000 --> 01:04:27,560 Speaker 1: So yeah, there was a time that that mattered to voters, 1062 01:04:27,600 --> 01:04:30,640 Speaker 1: that mattered to lawmakers, and that would be what state 1063 01:04:31,160 --> 01:04:34,040 Speaker 1: you know, ultimately right, it is state. 1064 01:04:34,120 --> 01:04:34,280 Speaker 2: You know. 1065 01:04:34,320 --> 01:04:37,760 Speaker 1: This is why having the state legislatures in charge of 1066 01:04:37,800 --> 01:04:42,600 Speaker 1: designing the lines, you would think this would come into there, 1067 01:04:42,720 --> 01:04:46,960 Speaker 1: you know. And it used to be states actually wanted 1068 01:04:47,520 --> 01:04:51,840 Speaker 1: to keep to make sure they had seniority, had some 1069 01:04:52,000 --> 01:04:54,320 Speaker 1: member of Congress either in the center of the House 1070 01:04:54,880 --> 01:04:58,640 Speaker 1: that had enough seniority that whichever party was in charge 1071 01:04:58,680 --> 01:05:02,160 Speaker 1: of Washington at a given time, they had some influence. 1072 01:05:03,920 --> 01:05:06,960 Speaker 1: Parties cared about having that right. That's why you had 1073 01:05:07,560 --> 01:05:10,480 Speaker 1: for the longest time one D and one R senator 1074 01:05:10,480 --> 01:05:13,000 Speaker 1: from iole Right, Harken, and Grassly they serve together. It 1075 01:05:13,000 --> 01:05:18,240 Speaker 1: seemed like forever, at least a good twenty plus years, 1076 01:05:18,880 --> 01:05:23,240 Speaker 1: South Dakota had this where there was this hope, you know. 1077 01:05:23,480 --> 01:05:27,640 Speaker 1: Essentially Montana was big with this, so particularly smaller states 1078 01:05:27,800 --> 01:05:32,120 Speaker 1: over time value having that. So anyway, your instinct is 1079 01:05:32,160 --> 01:05:35,480 Speaker 1: spot on on this. Like, like I said, Texas is 1080 01:05:35,600 --> 01:05:38,280 Speaker 1: not the best example because of your partisan state, but 1081 01:05:38,320 --> 01:05:42,000 Speaker 1: you're a big state. You end up getting You end 1082 01:05:42,080 --> 01:05:45,920 Speaker 1: up just by sheer numbers. You end up having somebody 1083 01:05:46,000 --> 01:05:49,960 Speaker 1: in a leadership position that can truly directly impact, right, 1084 01:05:50,000 --> 01:05:51,680 Speaker 1: And if you don't, if you're not on leadership, you 1085 01:05:51,680 --> 01:05:54,240 Speaker 1: may be on the most important committees, right, or be 1086 01:05:54,360 --> 01:05:57,000 Speaker 1: chair of the most important committees. I think a Texan 1087 01:05:57,000 --> 01:05:59,240 Speaker 1: has been in charge of the Ways and Means Committee 1088 01:05:59,240 --> 01:06:06,280 Speaker 1: off and on think four different times this century. So 1089 01:06:06,280 --> 01:06:11,360 Speaker 1: so you know, anyway, the point is yes, in general, 1090 01:06:11,600 --> 01:06:14,920 Speaker 1: just wrong exam. I would just pick a different state. 1091 01:06:15,040 --> 01:06:18,040 Speaker 1: You know they take in Oklahoma, right, They're going to 1092 01:06:18,080 --> 01:06:22,200 Speaker 1: have a harder time unless they you know, or Wyoming 1093 01:06:22,280 --> 01:06:24,680 Speaker 1: has a member of leadership on the Republican side that 1094 01:06:24,760 --> 01:06:31,640 Speaker 1: helps them. But she get my drift on that. Next 1095 01:06:31,720 --> 01:06:36,520 Speaker 1: question comes from Adam B. Davey, Florida suburb in Broward County. 1096 01:06:36,520 --> 01:06:37,120 Speaker 2: For those of you. 1097 01:06:37,120 --> 01:06:39,760 Speaker 1: Wondering, Hey, Chuck, could the Trump administration try to trigger 1098 01:06:39,840 --> 01:06:42,720 Speaker 1: NATO's Article five over Iran, either to pressure allies to 1099 01:06:42,760 --> 01:06:45,280 Speaker 1: join the conflict or to highlight NATO's limits if they refuse, 1100 01:06:45,680 --> 01:06:47,840 Speaker 1: or does the administration ultimately know the US still needs 1101 01:06:47,840 --> 01:06:51,160 Speaker 1: its European allies for logistics and defense. Ps I quit 1102 01:06:51,160 --> 01:06:53,040 Speaker 1: watching college football. With the breakup of the Big East, 1103 01:06:53,600 --> 01:06:56,439 Speaker 1: my native West Virginia University was left playing a bunch 1104 01:06:56,440 --> 01:06:58,400 Speaker 1: of games out in Texas and the prairie lands. We 1105 01:06:58,440 --> 01:07:02,440 Speaker 1: don't belong there. Well, I'm gonna get to that in 1106 01:07:02,440 --> 01:07:05,760 Speaker 1: a minute, Adam, because I West Virginia's I agree that 1107 01:07:05,800 --> 01:07:10,160 Speaker 1: they've been uniquely screwed in all this uh, in the 1108 01:07:10,280 --> 01:07:12,640 Speaker 1: in the expansion and the realignment and all of that 1109 01:07:12,960 --> 01:07:15,200 Speaker 1: in West Virginia because it doesn't have a large media 1110 01:07:15,280 --> 01:07:19,080 Speaker 1: market that instantaneously means money is sort of you know, 1111 01:07:19,120 --> 01:07:23,000 Speaker 1: mess things up. But anyway, but let me answer your 1112 01:07:23,000 --> 01:07:26,960 Speaker 1: first question. No, I mean, look at how instead of 1113 01:07:27,040 --> 01:07:30,000 Speaker 1: using NATO, looks like Trump's using trade deals. Right, he 1114 01:07:30,080 --> 01:07:33,560 Speaker 1: got Spain to climb on board after doing some threats 1115 01:07:33,560 --> 01:07:39,120 Speaker 1: on trade deals. Now here's another what if Turkey triggers 1116 01:07:39,240 --> 01:07:39,880 Speaker 1: Article five? 1117 01:07:40,040 --> 01:07:40,200 Speaker 2: Right? 1118 01:07:40,480 --> 01:07:45,000 Speaker 1: You know, a Turkey ended up shooting down some sort 1119 01:07:45,000 --> 01:07:47,560 Speaker 1: of Iranian I think missile that was coming into its airspace. 1120 01:07:48,960 --> 01:07:51,320 Speaker 1: And Turkey is a member of NATO, so maybe they 1121 01:07:51,400 --> 01:07:54,320 Speaker 1: end up triggering Article five, which does this. And my 1122 01:07:54,400 --> 01:07:57,920 Speaker 1: guess is to be a bit cynical about how this 1123 01:07:57,960 --> 01:07:59,800 Speaker 1: would work. If I were in Trump's shoes, I wouldn't 1124 01:07:59,800 --> 01:08:02,400 Speaker 1: want to trigger NATO, but I would maybe if I 1125 01:08:02,440 --> 01:08:06,600 Speaker 1: wanted that, I would trigger. I would let Turkey trigger it. 1126 01:08:07,320 --> 01:08:10,040 Speaker 1: But no, I mean, you know, it's interesting. In a 1127 01:08:10,120 --> 01:08:12,480 Speaker 1: sidebar story I've been following all this week is the 1128 01:08:13,360 --> 01:08:17,320 Speaker 1: fascinating debate inside the UK Parliament because Keir Starmer, the 1129 01:08:17,320 --> 01:08:21,960 Speaker 1: Prime Minister, has not come out wholeheartedly supportive of American action, 1130 01:08:22,040 --> 01:08:25,280 Speaker 1: which is so unusual. The UK is always sort of 1131 01:08:26,200 --> 01:08:29,040 Speaker 1: right behind us whatever we do, right the so called 1132 01:08:29,040 --> 01:08:32,000 Speaker 1: special relationship not there this time. 1133 01:08:34,640 --> 01:08:39,960 Speaker 2: That is, you know it. The debate in different European capitals. 1134 01:08:39,760 --> 01:08:43,880 Speaker 1: About what we're doing in Iran is I think going 1135 01:08:43,960 --> 01:08:51,320 Speaker 1: to increase and get intense. I if Trump really wanted 1136 01:08:51,320 --> 01:08:53,559 Speaker 1: to cause a problem within NATO, he could do this, 1137 01:08:53,680 --> 01:08:57,200 Speaker 1: but I you know, I don't. 1138 01:08:57,240 --> 01:09:01,240 Speaker 2: We weren't attacked first, right, not even sure it would 1139 01:09:01,400 --> 01:09:02,160 Speaker 2: it would. 1140 01:09:02,000 --> 01:09:06,559 Speaker 1: Qualify on that front, you know, with West Virginia when. 1141 01:09:06,479 --> 01:09:09,280 Speaker 2: I when I moved to. 1142 01:09:10,800 --> 01:09:14,439 Speaker 1: D C for college in nineteen nineteen, this is still 1143 01:09:14,479 --> 01:09:18,439 Speaker 1: the you know, still the heart of the the of 1144 01:09:18,640 --> 01:09:22,240 Speaker 1: Miami's you know, prominence in college football. The one thing 1145 01:09:22,280 --> 01:09:25,240 Speaker 1: I was excited about about being in d C going 1146 01:09:25,280 --> 01:09:27,760 Speaker 1: to GW one was Geneman football team, so I didn't 1147 01:09:27,760 --> 01:09:29,719 Speaker 1: have to feel guilty about rooting for Miami football. 1148 01:09:30,720 --> 01:09:30,920 Speaker 2: Two. 1149 01:09:31,000 --> 01:09:33,880 Speaker 1: Being in the Big East, I realized I was a 1150 01:09:33,960 --> 01:09:36,679 Speaker 1: road trip away from Rutgers, a road trip from Temple, 1151 01:09:36,960 --> 01:09:38,600 Speaker 1: road trip from West Virginia. 1152 01:09:39,840 --> 01:09:42,559 Speaker 2: Road trip. Actually the longest road trip was Virginia Tech. 1153 01:09:45,640 --> 01:09:48,200 Speaker 1: And I did all of those, by the way, and 1154 01:09:48,280 --> 01:09:55,000 Speaker 1: I will confess probably the most unfriendly place I went 1155 01:09:55,040 --> 01:09:55,920 Speaker 1: to was Morgantown. 1156 01:09:56,439 --> 01:09:58,919 Speaker 2: You'll probably laugh at that. I was at the infamous 1157 01:09:58,960 --> 01:10:00,440 Speaker 2: game where they rocked the endmbulance. 1158 01:10:01,840 --> 01:10:03,760 Speaker 1: And if you say you haven't watched since the Big 1159 01:10:03,760 --> 01:10:06,080 Speaker 1: East stage, you know exactly The game I'm talking about 1160 01:10:06,439 --> 01:10:08,880 Speaker 1: was in nineteen ninety three. I think it was the 1161 01:10:09,200 --> 01:10:11,639 Speaker 1: year you guys played Notre Dame in the national title game. 1162 01:10:11,920 --> 01:10:14,040 Speaker 1: I think I think this is the major Harris team. 1163 01:10:14,439 --> 01:10:18,200 Speaker 1: I hope I have my dates right on that, but 1164 01:10:18,280 --> 01:10:22,160 Speaker 1: I remember that game. I'm sitting in the stands. We 1165 01:10:22,280 --> 01:10:25,479 Speaker 1: need Boston College to upset Notre Dame for Miami to 1166 01:10:25,520 --> 01:10:27,840 Speaker 1: sort of have a chance back into the title game, 1167 01:10:28,720 --> 01:10:32,639 Speaker 1: and it happens, and somehow Boston College upsets Notre Dame. 1168 01:10:32,680 --> 01:10:35,920 Speaker 1: They announce it in the stands, and what does Miami do. 1169 01:10:36,000 --> 01:10:37,880 Speaker 1: We lay the damn egg and we lose to you 1170 01:10:37,920 --> 01:10:42,400 Speaker 1: guys in that game. But that was that was the 1171 01:10:42,439 --> 01:10:45,280 Speaker 1: one time. I guess I'm glad I was there when 1172 01:10:45,320 --> 01:10:47,800 Speaker 1: you guys won. And it might have been worse, but 1173 01:10:48,160 --> 01:10:51,759 Speaker 1: I wore all my Miami gear on top of regular clothes, 1174 01:10:52,280 --> 01:10:54,799 Speaker 1: so I literally the second I was leaving the stadium, 1175 01:10:54,880 --> 01:11:00,880 Speaker 1: I shed it and just played neutral arbiter the rest 1176 01:11:00,920 --> 01:11:04,640 Speaker 1: of the way. But I say that because you know, 1177 01:11:04,680 --> 01:11:09,400 Speaker 1: West Virginia is a great, proud football program. They love 1178 01:11:09,880 --> 01:11:13,720 Speaker 1: their their team there, they love and they belong in 1179 01:11:13,800 --> 01:11:18,439 Speaker 1: a major conference. They should be in the same conference 1180 01:11:18,439 --> 01:11:26,040 Speaker 1: as Pitt. You know, look the Big East. I you 1181 01:11:26,080 --> 01:11:28,040 Speaker 1: want to talk about a butter, I like to do 1182 01:11:28,080 --> 01:11:30,639 Speaker 1: what IF's. I'll give you a what if. What if 1183 01:11:30,680 --> 01:11:34,240 Speaker 1: Penn State doesn't go to the Big Ten and instead 1184 01:11:34,880 --> 01:11:37,400 Speaker 1: Penn State joins the Big East the same year Miami 1185 01:11:37,479 --> 01:11:43,599 Speaker 1: joins the Big East and Penn State, Pitt, West Virginia, Syracuse, 1186 01:11:43,680 --> 01:11:47,439 Speaker 1: and Boston College essentially are the North Division of the 1187 01:11:47,479 --> 01:12:00,839 Speaker 1: Big East in Miami, Louisville, maybe Virginia Tech. I believe 1188 01:12:00,880 --> 01:12:03,559 Speaker 1: at that time South Carolina was up for grabs and 1189 01:12:03,600 --> 01:12:06,000 Speaker 1: they were an independent that still could have been brought in. 1190 01:12:07,720 --> 01:12:11,160 Speaker 1: And maybe we convinced Florida State. And I know in 1191 01:12:11,200 --> 01:12:13,680 Speaker 1: the eighties and the mid eighties, when Florida State and 1192 01:12:13,760 --> 01:12:17,160 Speaker 1: Miami were independent and Penn State was independent, there was 1193 01:12:17,240 --> 01:12:19,960 Speaker 1: talk of a North South conference. The Big East was 1194 01:12:19,960 --> 01:12:23,639 Speaker 1: just a basketball conference. At some point the Big East decided, well, 1195 01:12:23,680 --> 01:12:26,200 Speaker 1: maybe we don't want to lose our football school, so 1196 01:12:26,240 --> 01:12:28,920 Speaker 1: maybe we'll do this weird hybrid that they did right 1197 01:12:28,960 --> 01:12:33,920 Speaker 1: where they had these basketball schools like Georgetown Villanova, but 1198 01:12:34,000 --> 01:12:37,880 Speaker 1: then they also had the schools like Syracuse and BC 1199 01:12:38,000 --> 01:12:40,280 Speaker 1: who also wanted football, and they were worried about losing 1200 01:12:40,320 --> 01:12:43,120 Speaker 1: all of that, and so they created this hybrid. They 1201 01:12:43,360 --> 01:12:49,320 Speaker 1: convinced Miami to get in and all that stuff. A 1202 01:12:49,400 --> 01:12:50,720 Speaker 1: different scenario. 1203 01:12:52,080 --> 01:12:56,040 Speaker 2: Could have been could have been. 1204 01:12:57,840 --> 01:13:00,000 Speaker 1: If Penn State had been the other anchor there. Right 1205 01:13:00,080 --> 01:13:03,439 Speaker 1: then you had big, two big programs in Penn State 1206 01:13:03,439 --> 01:13:07,200 Speaker 1: and Miami, and then everybody else sort of could ride 1207 01:13:07,280 --> 01:13:11,960 Speaker 1: that wave and essentially be sort of on the same level. Look, 1208 01:13:12,080 --> 01:13:15,320 Speaker 1: I'm not try to disrespect West Virginia here, but you know, 1209 01:13:15,360 --> 01:13:21,960 Speaker 1: both Miami Penn State probably slightly bigger national brands than 1210 01:13:22,040 --> 01:13:25,360 Speaker 1: West Virginia, by the way, who was in the same 1211 01:13:25,400 --> 01:13:28,280 Speaker 1: conference for basketball with GW for most of the nineties. 1212 01:13:28,840 --> 01:13:30,639 Speaker 1: And I remember, you want to talk about a tough 1213 01:13:30,640 --> 01:13:33,800 Speaker 1: place to play, not only in football, playing in that 1214 01:13:33,880 --> 01:13:35,840 Speaker 1: arena in Morgantown was a tough place to play it. 1215 01:13:35,840 --> 01:13:37,600 Speaker 1: In fact, I remember sitting in the nosebleeds and it 1216 01:13:37,640 --> 01:13:40,280 Speaker 1: was one of those where your knee was above the 1217 01:13:40,320 --> 01:13:42,680 Speaker 1: head of the person in front of you. But it 1218 01:13:42,960 --> 01:13:47,120 Speaker 1: was a great environment, really concentrated the noise. I think 1219 01:13:47,160 --> 01:13:49,360 Speaker 1: to this day, West Virginia is still a tough place 1220 01:13:49,400 --> 01:13:54,439 Speaker 1: to win on the road in that arena. But you know, 1221 01:13:54,479 --> 01:13:57,240 Speaker 1: we could have had a conference that made some geographic sense, 1222 01:13:57,920 --> 01:14:00,040 Speaker 1: you know, And who knows then if you had the 1223 01:14:00,040 --> 01:14:04,000 Speaker 1: big East ACC merger and Penn State and Miami and 1224 01:14:04,080 --> 01:14:07,519 Speaker 1: Florida State and Clemson and Virginia Tech, and but you 1225 01:14:07,560 --> 01:14:11,559 Speaker 1: have that Penn State brand in there too. You know, 1226 01:14:12,320 --> 01:14:15,160 Speaker 1: there may be it may be that there are that 1227 01:14:15,200 --> 01:14:19,479 Speaker 1: the that the that that ACC is truly a power 1228 01:14:19,560 --> 01:14:23,599 Speaker 1: conference just as up and down, just as just as 1229 01:14:23,600 --> 01:14:28,160 Speaker 1: powerful as as the Big Ten and and certainly comparable 1230 01:14:28,200 --> 01:14:33,280 Speaker 1: to the SEC. But you know, it is one of 1231 01:14:33,320 --> 01:14:37,960 Speaker 1: those where one decision by Penn State ended up impacting 1232 01:14:38,120 --> 01:14:44,760 Speaker 1: what seventy other football programs, right, because remember they they 1233 01:14:44,840 --> 01:14:47,880 Speaker 1: sort of broke the seal here and when they went 1234 01:14:48,200 --> 01:14:51,280 Speaker 1: then it was you know, it went down from there. 1235 01:14:51,640 --> 01:14:54,880 Speaker 1: But hey, you know what it's I know the Big 1236 01:14:54,920 --> 01:15:00,439 Speaker 1: twelve is geographically a mess. It's a good commissioner. It 1237 01:15:00,479 --> 01:15:03,320 Speaker 1: does give West Virginia fighting chance to be to be 1238 01:15:03,439 --> 01:15:06,400 Speaker 1: relevant both in football and basketball. So come on back, 1239 01:15:07,040 --> 01:15:10,280 Speaker 1: all right. Next question comes from Kelly X in Aubrey, Texas. 1240 01:15:10,880 --> 01:15:12,840 Speaker 1: Hey check, I'm a transgender woman in Texas, and with 1241 01:15:12,880 --> 01:15:15,519 Speaker 1: the Republican runoff elections for Senate and Attorney General approaching, 1242 01:15:15,560 --> 01:15:18,280 Speaker 1: I'm concerned that candidates like Ken Paxton and Chiproy may 1243 01:15:18,280 --> 01:15:20,880 Speaker 1: move even further right on transgender issues to win over 1244 01:15:20,880 --> 01:15:23,519 Speaker 1: cultural war voters. Both have already made opposition to gender 1245 01:15:23,560 --> 01:15:26,080 Speaker 1: ideology a major part of their political messaging. Do you 1246 01:15:26,120 --> 01:15:27,840 Speaker 1: think one or both of them might use their current 1247 01:15:27,840 --> 01:15:30,720 Speaker 1: positions to push even more aggressive policies or rhetoric on 1248 01:15:30,800 --> 01:15:34,840 Speaker 1: transgender rights from the runoff and could that pressure other 1249 01:15:34,880 --> 01:15:36,000 Speaker 1: Republicans follow their lead. 1250 01:15:36,760 --> 01:15:39,479 Speaker 2: Well, Kelly, I wouldn't. I don't think it's going to 1251 01:15:39,520 --> 01:15:39,800 Speaker 2: be in. 1252 01:15:39,800 --> 01:15:44,000 Speaker 1: The runoff that that becomes an issue. I think that 1253 01:15:44,200 --> 01:15:48,920 Speaker 1: something that is more likely in the general election. I've 1254 01:15:48,920 --> 01:15:59,240 Speaker 1: seen already some Republicans resurface a quote from Tallarico who 1255 01:15:59,280 --> 01:16:01,800 Speaker 1: called who at one time, I guess, referred to God 1256 01:16:01,840 --> 01:16:06,439 Speaker 1: as non binary, which I think there's a number of 1257 01:16:06,520 --> 01:16:08,680 Speaker 1: ways you could interpret that. You know, if you want 1258 01:16:08,720 --> 01:16:12,640 Speaker 1: to interpret it with skepticism and weaponization, you can do that. 1259 01:16:12,680 --> 01:16:13,559 Speaker 2: You want to interpret it. 1260 01:16:13,520 --> 01:16:17,679 Speaker 1: As his own another way of saying, you know, God 1261 01:16:17,760 --> 01:16:22,599 Speaker 1: is genderless, meaning you know, if you know, to women, 1262 01:16:22,720 --> 01:16:24,519 Speaker 1: maybe God's a woman. To men, maybe God's a man. 1263 01:16:24,600 --> 01:16:27,800 Speaker 1: To those who's transgender, maybe he's transgender. 1264 01:16:27,920 --> 01:16:28,080 Speaker 2: You know. 1265 01:16:28,320 --> 01:16:30,639 Speaker 1: The point is that I have the beholder type of mindset, 1266 01:16:30,920 --> 01:16:32,880 Speaker 1: you know, when it comes to God, and everybody has 1267 01:16:32,920 --> 01:16:35,680 Speaker 1: their own relationship to God, and I do not want 1268 01:16:35,680 --> 01:16:40,880 Speaker 1: to pre presume any any any version of that is correct, 1269 01:16:40,960 --> 01:16:46,000 Speaker 1: right belief, faith is faith. On that front, I don't 1270 01:16:46,640 --> 01:16:49,120 Speaker 1: I don't suspect it to be front and center in 1271 01:16:49,120 --> 01:16:55,000 Speaker 1: the primary. I think I think it's all going to 1272 01:16:55,040 --> 01:16:59,679 Speaker 1: be about who's who's who's more sufficiently pro Trump right, 1273 01:17:00,320 --> 01:17:02,800 Speaker 1: I think it's a general election. I think that in 1274 01:17:02,880 --> 01:17:07,639 Speaker 1: both cases you will see I think particularly if Paxson's nominee, 1275 01:17:07,680 --> 01:17:10,600 Speaker 1: probably less so if Corn's a nominee. But I know 1276 01:17:10,640 --> 01:17:12,400 Speaker 1: they want to make a big deal out of that quote, 1277 01:17:14,000 --> 01:17:15,559 Speaker 1: and I think they think that it can it can 1278 01:17:15,600 --> 01:17:18,680 Speaker 1: get misinterpreted, or you know, and all of that. So 1279 01:17:21,360 --> 01:17:25,120 Speaker 1: I'm less convinced it's a salient primary issue because I 1280 01:17:25,120 --> 01:17:27,519 Speaker 1: don't think that you're going to try to do an 1281 01:17:27,520 --> 01:17:31,160 Speaker 1: issue that causes a wedge with the other candidate, And 1282 01:17:31,560 --> 01:17:35,080 Speaker 1: I don't suspect that that's going to be the case. 1283 01:17:36,720 --> 01:17:37,280 Speaker 2: With me. 1284 01:17:38,160 --> 01:17:41,080 Speaker 1: Perhaps more likely between Paxton and Cornyn, if he's trying 1285 01:17:41,120 --> 01:17:45,639 Speaker 1: to make the case that Cornin is not sufficiently part 1286 01:17:45,640 --> 01:17:49,360 Speaker 1: of MAGA. But I still think he would use guns 1287 01:17:49,560 --> 01:17:55,160 Speaker 1: as a more effective wedge issue there than transgender rights. 1288 01:17:55,200 --> 01:18:01,800 Speaker 1: But I'm not saying this to either reassure you about 1289 01:18:01,800 --> 01:18:03,600 Speaker 1: the primary make you nervous about the general. But I 1290 01:18:03,640 --> 01:18:07,960 Speaker 1: think you're more likely to see the scapegoat escape voting 1291 01:18:08,200 --> 01:18:19,960 Speaker 1: and the attacks rise up during the general. Next question 1292 01:18:20,120 --> 01:18:24,560 Speaker 1: comes from Staffaning, and she writes, Hey, my husband and 1293 01:18:24,600 --> 01:18:26,559 Speaker 1: I both listen to your podcast, and despite our very 1294 01:18:26,600 --> 01:18:29,080 Speaker 1: different political views. We find your coverage balance and informative 1295 01:18:30,560 --> 01:18:33,920 Speaker 1: right on. I need you guys to become my marketing team. 1296 01:18:35,160 --> 01:18:37,240 Speaker 1: Husband and wife marketing team. Our oldest son is eighteen 1297 01:18:37,240 --> 01:18:43,400 Speaker 1: and has declared that voting is useless. I have a 1298 01:18:43,400 --> 01:18:46,679 Speaker 1: friend who's had a similar conversation with their I think 1299 01:18:46,720 --> 01:18:51,120 Speaker 1: he's now nineteen, but it was at eighteen. You continue 1300 01:18:51,120 --> 01:18:53,519 Speaker 1: this breaks my civic minded heart. His entire awareness has 1301 01:18:53,520 --> 01:18:55,439 Speaker 1: been shaped by Trump and he has no concept of 1302 01:18:55,439 --> 01:18:57,240 Speaker 1: what America can be or should be. He was only 1303 01:18:57,240 --> 01:18:59,280 Speaker 1: seven when Trump started campaigning for the first time, and 1304 01:18:59,320 --> 01:19:01,840 Speaker 1: he doesn't underst and why things seem so outrageous to us. 1305 01:19:03,000 --> 01:19:05,680 Speaker 1: This is a conversation I've had with my own son, Stephanie, 1306 01:19:06,040 --> 01:19:08,720 Speaker 1: who is also eighteen. How do we teach my son 1307 01:19:08,760 --> 01:19:10,639 Speaker 1: in the entire generation of new voters that they matter 1308 01:19:10,680 --> 01:19:13,520 Speaker 1: and what the constitution says without turning into the adults 1309 01:19:13,520 --> 01:19:14,960 Speaker 1: from Charles Schultz's P. 1310 01:19:15,040 --> 01:19:17,440 Speaker 2: That's wah wah wah, wah wah wah, thanks. 1311 01:19:17,160 --> 01:19:19,800 Speaker 1: For your help, and then she says, PS, I'll throw 1312 01:19:19,800 --> 01:19:21,920 Speaker 1: a gonatch your way since I'm desperate for any baseball 1313 01:19:21,960 --> 01:19:24,120 Speaker 1: at this point, you are, and by the way, I'm 1314 01:19:24,439 --> 01:19:28,200 Speaker 1: fired up I'm even though I'm tired, I know I'm 1315 01:19:28,240 --> 01:19:34,639 Speaker 1: gonna start watching to the first game of the World 1316 01:19:34,640 --> 01:19:38,880 Speaker 1: Baseball Classic, which I believe is in Tokyo, and I 1317 01:19:38,880 --> 01:19:42,800 Speaker 1: think it's Chinese type against Team Japan. I'm looking forward 1318 01:19:42,800 --> 01:19:47,160 Speaker 1: to it, which is Taiwan versus Japan. But I don't think, 1319 01:19:47,280 --> 01:19:49,360 Speaker 1: I think, I don't think it starts to like ten 1320 01:19:49,400 --> 01:19:51,920 Speaker 1: pm Eastern time, you know, which for me might as 1321 01:19:51,960 --> 01:19:53,720 Speaker 1: well be one am Eastern time. 1322 01:19:55,600 --> 01:19:59,679 Speaker 2: Look, this is this is a real issue with. 1323 01:19:59,720 --> 01:20:04,000 Speaker 1: Some young voters, the sort of this. They're not quite nihilists, 1324 01:20:04,080 --> 01:20:07,800 Speaker 1: but they're just sort of like they haven't really seen 1325 01:20:07,840 --> 01:20:11,480 Speaker 1: a functional democracy. So if you've never seen a functional democracy, 1326 01:20:11,520 --> 01:20:13,960 Speaker 1: what is normal to you? You know, I think about 1327 01:20:13,960 --> 01:20:16,599 Speaker 1: this all the time. I mean, I'm going to guess, 1328 01:20:16,640 --> 01:20:19,840 Speaker 1: if you have a son who's eighteen, it means you 1329 01:20:20,040 --> 01:20:21,200 Speaker 1: and I are about the same age. 1330 01:20:22,400 --> 01:20:23,080 Speaker 2: And we grew up. 1331 01:20:23,080 --> 01:20:25,680 Speaker 1: We grew up in an era where we you know, 1332 01:20:26,960 --> 01:20:30,599 Speaker 1: America was winning. We won right, we won the Cold War. 1333 01:20:30,720 --> 01:20:33,479 Speaker 1: We were right, democracy won the argument. It wasn't that 1334 01:20:33,560 --> 01:20:37,840 Speaker 1: America won the argument. Democracy won the argument. So in 1335 01:20:37,920 --> 01:20:40,240 Speaker 1: some ways, when we were coming of age at eighteen, 1336 01:20:40,280 --> 01:20:43,479 Speaker 1: we saw it as hey, we're winning. This democracy thing 1337 01:20:43,560 --> 01:20:46,840 Speaker 1: is working. In fact, let's spread it, Let's get more. 1338 01:20:47,360 --> 01:20:51,160 Speaker 1: All right, maybe China's next. Remember you know Tienman Square, right, 1339 01:20:51,160 --> 01:20:55,240 Speaker 1: we were, I mean I was as a first protest 1340 01:20:55,320 --> 01:21:00,880 Speaker 1: I ever sort of launched as a high school student. 1341 01:21:01,200 --> 01:21:04,759 Speaker 1: I was a senior. I think during Tienaman Square, junior senior. 1342 01:21:05,439 --> 01:21:07,040 Speaker 1: I must have been a senior because I probably would't 1343 01:21:07,040 --> 01:21:08,679 Speaker 1: done as a junior, but a senior, I was enough 1344 01:21:08,680 --> 01:21:10,800 Speaker 1: of a leader that I get and I just you know, 1345 01:21:11,080 --> 01:21:12,920 Speaker 1: I said, hey, let's all wear black arm brands and 1346 01:21:12,960 --> 01:21:20,120 Speaker 1: solidarity with with the protesters at Tienaman Square. And you know, 1347 01:21:20,800 --> 01:21:22,320 Speaker 1: I think I got one hundred people to do it. 1348 01:21:22,320 --> 01:21:24,280 Speaker 1: And that was a high school of three thousands. So 1349 01:21:24,280 --> 01:21:25,559 Speaker 1: I'm not going to sit here and say it was. 1350 01:21:25,640 --> 01:21:27,479 Speaker 2: It was. I had a huge following. 1351 01:21:31,160 --> 01:21:34,240 Speaker 1: Well, we were coming of an age where where you know, 1352 01:21:35,840 --> 01:21:39,719 Speaker 1: it seemed like the whole idea of democracy, that this 1353 01:21:39,720 --> 01:21:43,960 Speaker 1: this this thing was working. You know, the twenty first 1354 01:21:43,960 --> 01:21:47,360 Speaker 1: century has been a whole different story, right they've they've 1355 01:21:47,840 --> 01:21:50,960 Speaker 1: we've had now two generations see a lot of dysfunction 1356 01:21:51,160 --> 01:21:58,639 Speaker 1: more than function, And you know, I think it is difficult. 1357 01:21:58,800 --> 01:21:59,400 Speaker 2: I think. 1358 01:22:01,600 --> 01:22:07,040 Speaker 1: I guess my best answer is to is to try 1359 01:22:07,080 --> 01:22:11,639 Speaker 1: to showcase where local politics worked. You know, there's still 1360 01:22:11,720 --> 01:22:17,320 Speaker 1: some local democracy that where you feel like you you know, 1361 01:22:17,840 --> 01:22:21,720 Speaker 1: voters taken action and then you know, you know, we 1362 01:22:22,080 --> 01:22:27,840 Speaker 1: deal with it a different way. But I mean, when 1363 01:22:27,880 --> 01:22:30,080 Speaker 1: you have a you know, I almost want every member 1364 01:22:30,080 --> 01:22:32,920 Speaker 1: of Congress to read this question and hear this question 1365 01:22:33,000 --> 01:22:37,240 Speaker 1: that you've written, because Congress being ineffective. Right, everything that 1366 01:22:37,400 --> 01:22:42,800 Speaker 1: your son has learned about the Constitution, about checks and balances, 1367 01:22:42,880 --> 01:22:46,120 Speaker 1: about the three branches of government haven't functioned the way 1368 01:22:46,160 --> 01:22:49,840 Speaker 1: it's taught. And it's not because we're teaching it incorrectly. 1369 01:22:49,880 --> 01:22:54,880 Speaker 1: It's because it doesn't function correctly. And you know, I 1370 01:22:55,920 --> 01:22:58,679 Speaker 1: resist wanting to teach it. I teach a classic college 1371 01:22:58,680 --> 01:23:01,120 Speaker 1: student called how Washington Work. And I think it's I've 1372 01:23:01,120 --> 01:23:03,320 Speaker 1: never had a more challenging time trying to explain how 1373 01:23:03,360 --> 01:23:05,559 Speaker 1: Washington works this year, because I'm like, we're the it's 1374 01:23:05,680 --> 01:23:09,960 Speaker 1: changing dramatically and right now there's only the Washington works 1375 01:23:10,760 --> 01:23:18,720 Speaker 1: with one one way currency and specifically green currency, and 1376 01:23:18,760 --> 01:23:24,680 Speaker 1: that is what how Washington rolls these days. So you know, 1377 01:23:24,720 --> 01:23:27,559 Speaker 1: this is this is why we need some better leaders. 1378 01:23:28,040 --> 01:23:30,880 Speaker 1: But more importantly, this is why we need to do 1379 01:23:30,960 --> 01:23:36,240 Speaker 1: some structural changes to the democracy, essentially to convince people 1380 01:23:36,320 --> 01:23:40,720 Speaker 1: it still works. Not having to register by party, but 1381 01:23:40,760 --> 01:23:43,559 Speaker 1: still being able to vote right. Getting rid of partisan primaries, 1382 01:23:43,560 --> 01:23:44,200 Speaker 1: I think would. 1383 01:23:44,000 --> 01:23:47,439 Speaker 2: Be a huge way. You've got to. 1384 01:23:48,920 --> 01:23:51,840 Speaker 1: If you want people to be good citizens, they've got 1385 01:23:51,840 --> 01:23:56,240 Speaker 1: to know that their citizenship matters. And I think we've 1386 01:23:56,280 --> 01:24:00,920 Speaker 1: not asked much of our citizenry. You know what if 1387 01:24:00,960 --> 01:24:03,400 Speaker 1: we had a national service program where everybody had to 1388 01:24:03,439 --> 01:24:06,000 Speaker 1: serve two years doing something for the country, doing something 1389 01:24:06,040 --> 01:24:10,360 Speaker 1: for the for the for the you know, whether that's 1390 01:24:10,600 --> 01:24:13,880 Speaker 1: serve in the military, whether that's serve in the Peace Corps, 1391 01:24:13,880 --> 01:24:14,679 Speaker 1: whether that's. 1392 01:24:15,160 --> 01:24:17,200 Speaker 2: Serve in a local. 1393 01:24:20,040 --> 01:24:24,880 Speaker 1: A local senior facility. I think there's a variety of 1394 01:24:24,920 --> 01:24:30,920 Speaker 1: ways you could create mandatory national service that you know helped. 1395 01:24:31,600 --> 01:24:34,439 Speaker 1: I think that would you know, first of all, it 1396 01:24:34,479 --> 01:24:37,760 Speaker 1: would be an opportunity for people from different backgrounds to 1397 01:24:37,840 --> 01:24:41,320 Speaker 1: serve together. Right, we know how well that is that 1398 01:24:41,320 --> 01:24:44,120 Speaker 1: that works in the military. Imagine if you had that 1399 01:24:44,840 --> 01:24:53,240 Speaker 1: in all sorts of ways, and it might sort of 1400 01:24:54,360 --> 01:25:02,800 Speaker 1: restore store the belief that your vote counts or that 1401 01:25:02,840 --> 01:25:05,720 Speaker 1: your vote matters. Can tell you this if you if 1402 01:25:05,760 --> 01:25:08,240 Speaker 1: you live in a North Carolina State Senate District with 1403 01:25:08,320 --> 01:25:10,680 Speaker 1: Phil Berger and it who's down two votes with all 1404 01:25:10,720 --> 01:25:13,400 Speaker 1: the votes counted now and now they're waiting for provisionals. 1405 01:25:14,000 --> 01:25:17,120 Speaker 1: There are plenty of campaigns that prove every vote counts. 1406 01:25:18,280 --> 01:25:20,040 Speaker 1: But the question I think your son is asking, is 1407 01:25:20,080 --> 01:25:23,439 Speaker 1: your vote even worth it? And I think right now, 1408 01:25:23,479 --> 01:25:26,320 Speaker 1: when we have such weak checks and balances in the 1409 01:25:26,360 --> 01:25:29,800 Speaker 1: system that he's taught, that we live in isn't really 1410 01:25:29,840 --> 01:25:33,240 Speaker 1: functioning the way he was taught. It's hard not it's 1411 01:25:33,760 --> 01:25:36,479 Speaker 1: it's easy to understand why he's this, why he's become 1412 01:25:36,520 --> 01:25:38,240 Speaker 1: this cynical about it. 1413 01:25:38,400 --> 01:25:39,920 Speaker 2: My son's quite cynical as well. 1414 01:25:40,479 --> 01:25:42,479 Speaker 1: I think there's a I just think there's a whole 1415 01:25:42,479 --> 01:25:49,400 Speaker 1: generation that sees it this way. That said, my son 1416 01:25:49,439 --> 01:25:53,240 Speaker 1: does gravitate to anybody young who's trying to run for office. 1417 01:25:53,280 --> 01:25:56,960 Speaker 1: He's always whoever the younger person is, he gravitates to 1418 01:25:57,040 --> 01:26:01,720 Speaker 1: that person. This was true in twenty twenty. He was 1419 01:26:01,880 --> 01:26:08,080 Speaker 1: really interested and intrigued by Pete uh and and and that, 1420 01:26:08,280 --> 01:26:10,360 Speaker 1: and it was simply because he was the youngest candidate, 1421 01:26:11,400 --> 01:26:15,760 Speaker 1: maybe a young leader, you know, whether whether you know, 1422 01:26:15,840 --> 01:26:19,000 Speaker 1: might have been a Charlie Kirk or or James tol Rico, 1423 01:26:19,840 --> 01:26:20,599 Speaker 1: or it could be. 1424 01:26:24,200 --> 01:26:24,880 Speaker 2: Somebody else. 1425 01:26:26,040 --> 01:26:28,599 Speaker 1: You know, maybe it's a ants if he's still considered 1426 01:26:28,640 --> 01:26:33,719 Speaker 1: young once you had forty you know, maybe there's some 1427 01:26:33,720 --> 01:26:37,200 Speaker 1: some some faith there, or certainly a new outside young leader. 1428 01:26:37,640 --> 01:26:38,519 Speaker 2: I might do it, but. 1429 01:26:39,960 --> 01:26:45,000 Speaker 1: You know, until the government itself functions normal semi normally 1430 01:26:46,680 --> 01:26:49,479 Speaker 1: it is it is, it's probably hard to make the case. 1431 01:26:51,000 --> 01:26:53,920 Speaker 1: I would be remiss, you know, I wrapped up question 1432 01:26:53,960 --> 01:26:56,799 Speaker 1: for that. I'd be remiss if I didn't acknowledge. Particularly 1433 01:26:56,840 --> 01:27:01,120 Speaker 1: if you're listening to this on March fifth, right, I 1434 01:27:01,200 --> 01:27:04,040 Speaker 1: drop on Thursdays. Thursday is March fifth. Some of you 1435 01:27:04,120 --> 01:27:06,720 Speaker 1: might be listening on the sixth, seventh, or eighth. But 1436 01:27:06,760 --> 01:27:10,280 Speaker 1: if you're listening on March fifth, and I'm mister three 1437 01:27:10,360 --> 01:27:12,400 Speaker 1: oh five, as most of you know me and Pitbull, 1438 01:27:12,439 --> 01:27:16,720 Speaker 1: we're mister three oh five. I'm a Miami native. I 1439 01:27:16,760 --> 01:27:19,519 Speaker 1: am proud of that three oh five area code. But 1440 01:27:19,600 --> 01:27:23,519 Speaker 1: I'm going to confess something I had never knew that 1441 01:27:24,560 --> 01:27:27,920 Speaker 1: we Miamians had an official day on the calendar that 1442 01:27:27,960 --> 01:27:34,000 Speaker 1: we celebrated. Apparently three five, as in March fifth, is 1443 01:27:34,040 --> 01:27:40,240 Speaker 1: now three oh five Day or Miami Day. I am 1444 01:27:40,840 --> 01:27:47,400 Speaker 1: apparently this became a thing in twenty fourteen. According to 1445 01:27:47,439 --> 01:27:51,680 Speaker 1: our friends at the Internet, it started as a hashtag 1446 01:27:52,280 --> 01:27:54,200 Speaker 1: three oh five day, sort of a fun thing and 1447 01:27:54,280 --> 01:27:59,680 Speaker 1: involved into a community wide celebration, so it was the 1448 01:28:00,000 --> 01:28:04,040 Speaker 1: digital the origin of this a Miami publicist. It started 1449 01:28:04,040 --> 01:28:09,040 Speaker 1: in twenty twelve, a Miami publicist, Genuine Molina, launched a 1450 01:28:09,080 --> 01:28:11,760 Speaker 1: social media campaign called three o five Cafacito and the 1451 01:28:11,800 --> 01:28:16,200 Speaker 1: concept is that inspired by English tea time, Molina proposed 1452 01:28:16,200 --> 01:28:19,320 Speaker 1: that three oh five pm, matching Miami's iconic area code, 1453 01:28:19,320 --> 01:28:22,200 Speaker 1: should be the city's official daily coffee break capasito time, 1454 01:28:23,280 --> 01:28:26,840 Speaker 1: and it was a way to unify Miami's diverse spanglish 1455 01:28:26,880 --> 01:28:33,240 Speaker 1: culture around the ventanita tradition coffee window. So the idea 1456 01:28:33,280 --> 01:28:36,679 Speaker 1: went viral so quickly that by twenty thirteen, then Mayor 1457 01:28:37,280 --> 01:28:41,840 Speaker 1: Tomas Regulato officially proclaimed three h five pm as Miami's 1458 01:28:42,160 --> 01:28:47,040 Speaker 1: official cafacito time. So it started as a time and 1459 01:28:47,080 --> 01:28:49,760 Speaker 1: then it went to a day, and the first three 1460 01:28:49,760 --> 01:28:52,879 Speaker 1: oh five day was celebrated on March fifth, twenty fourteen. 1461 01:28:53,240 --> 01:28:54,040 Speaker 2: Three oh five. 1462 01:28:55,160 --> 01:28:58,400 Speaker 1: So it's now turned into a community wide celebrations of 1463 01:28:58,439 --> 01:29:01,080 Speaker 1: all things three oh five, not just Cuban coffee. But 1464 01:29:01,160 --> 01:29:05,799 Speaker 1: Miami's music, Miami Base and freestyle art, the Windwood Murals, 1465 01:29:06,520 --> 01:29:09,920 Speaker 1: local small businesses. There's now three oh five block parties. 1466 01:29:10,800 --> 01:29:12,240 Speaker 1: So man, I feel like a moron. 1467 01:29:12,520 --> 01:29:13,240 Speaker 2: I miss this. 1468 01:29:14,160 --> 01:29:16,000 Speaker 1: I am sorry I missed. This is what happens you 1469 01:29:16,040 --> 01:29:21,120 Speaker 1: don't live in Miami anymore. And you know, I'm gonna 1470 01:29:21,240 --> 01:29:24,800 Speaker 1: bug my daughter all day on three oh five to say, hey, 1471 01:29:26,560 --> 01:29:29,280 Speaker 1: is this the Have you guys ever celebrated three oh 1472 01:29:29,400 --> 01:29:31,240 Speaker 1: five day? And three oh five? And I say this 1473 01:29:31,760 --> 01:29:35,160 Speaker 1: because I am a member of my family who was 1474 01:29:35,240 --> 01:29:38,640 Speaker 1: born on May the fourth be with you, And I 1475 01:29:38,680 --> 01:29:41,600 Speaker 1: will just say this member of my family is not 1476 01:29:41,800 --> 01:29:45,200 Speaker 1: thrilled that they have to share their birthday with Star 1477 01:29:45,280 --> 01:29:50,160 Speaker 1: Wars Day. So I am, I am, I am. I 1478 01:29:51,080 --> 01:29:53,480 Speaker 1: will see how much I bug some of my relatives 1479 01:29:53,479 --> 01:29:55,880 Speaker 1: about this. Who happened to live in Miami on three 1480 01:29:55,920 --> 01:29:56,599 Speaker 1: oh five day? 1481 01:29:57,640 --> 01:29:58,240 Speaker 2: But I am. 1482 01:29:58,360 --> 01:30:01,799 Speaker 1: I feel like a bad Miami native for not knowing 1483 01:30:02,520 --> 01:30:03,800 Speaker 1: and not fully embracing. 1484 01:30:03,840 --> 01:30:05,679 Speaker 2: And I'll just you know, I'm. 1485 01:30:06,720 --> 01:30:09,080 Speaker 1: First of all, I love three h five cafacito time. 1486 01:30:09,160 --> 01:30:13,559 Speaker 1: For me, it is always capuscito time. I constantly am 1487 01:30:13,640 --> 01:30:18,559 Speaker 1: drinking coffee. So it's a if, the if, the hour 1488 01:30:18,760 --> 01:30:21,479 Speaker 1: of the day ends in a PM or an am. 1489 01:30:21,560 --> 01:30:22,679 Speaker 2: I think it's coffee time. 1490 01:30:23,600 --> 01:30:27,800 Speaker 1: But regardless, I will no longer ever look at March 1491 01:30:27,880 --> 01:30:31,360 Speaker 1: fifth the same ever again, because I am not turning 1492 01:30:31,400 --> 01:30:35,040 Speaker 1: in my Miami credentials for blowing this. Instead, I'm hopping 1493 01:30:35,080 --> 01:30:39,200 Speaker 1: on this bandwagon and I am embracing so happy three 1494 01:30:39,200 --> 01:30:42,360 Speaker 1: oh five day. Let's go go, Let's go find go, 1495 01:30:42,439 --> 01:30:45,840 Speaker 1: find a Cathasito somewhere where you live to celebrate three 1496 01:30:45,920 --> 01:30:50,040 Speaker 1: oh five day, and with that, enjoy your weekend. I'll 1497 01:30:50,040 --> 01:30:56,960 Speaker 1: see in about seventy two hours.