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He 35 00:01:35,920 --> 00:01:39,560 Speaker 4: hasn't played all that hot, but they do win the 36 00:01:39,720 --> 00:01:42,000 Speaker 4: Red River rivalry. 37 00:01:42,240 --> 00:01:44,240 Speaker 5: I have to say that quick can. 38 00:01:44,280 --> 00:01:46,680 Speaker 2: Well done, well done. 39 00:01:46,880 --> 00:01:52,800 Speaker 5: Let me try it, Red River Reverie. I tell you 40 00:01:52,840 --> 00:01:55,800 Speaker 5: I can't do it like Scooby Doo. 41 00:01:55,880 --> 00:02:01,760 Speaker 4: I can't do it. It's a real pain in the nasary. 42 00:02:02,240 --> 00:02:07,240 Speaker 4: But arch Manning, the Texas quarterback with the very familiar 43 00:02:07,320 --> 00:02:11,400 Speaker 4: last name, spoke yesterday about quote blocking out the noise. 44 00:02:11,639 --> 00:02:13,040 Speaker 6: I feel like I try to do my best of 45 00:02:13,080 --> 00:02:15,280 Speaker 6: blocking out the noise, and then you get a hundred 46 00:02:15,280 --> 00:02:19,320 Speaker 6: text messages keep blocking out the noise like there must 47 00:02:19,360 --> 00:02:20,519 Speaker 6: there must be a lot of noise. 48 00:02:20,600 --> 00:02:24,240 Speaker 7: So yeah, I try my best. 49 00:02:26,600 --> 00:02:28,280 Speaker 8: You know there's someone who're calling me one of the 50 00:02:28,280 --> 00:02:29,720 Speaker 8: biggest flops in college football? 51 00:02:29,720 --> 00:02:31,440 Speaker 7: And then how did you deal with that? 52 00:02:31,880 --> 00:02:32,640 Speaker 5: Yeah, I didn't know that. 53 00:02:32,680 --> 00:02:33,519 Speaker 2: I guess I do now. 54 00:02:35,800 --> 00:02:37,600 Speaker 7: Yeah. 55 00:02:38,400 --> 00:02:41,880 Speaker 6: No, I mean, look, I wasn't playing well and I am. 56 00:02:41,880 --> 00:02:43,760 Speaker 6: I'm going to continue to get better. But you know, 57 00:02:43,960 --> 00:02:47,040 Speaker 6: everyone has their own opinion, and it's good about America, 58 00:02:47,160 --> 00:02:50,560 Speaker 6: so you get to freedom speech. So it doesn't bother me. 59 00:02:51,360 --> 00:02:54,480 Speaker 8: So it sounds sounds like a man just like you know, 60 00:02:54,520 --> 00:02:57,880 Speaker 8: what's you know what's tough about this is, you know, 61 00:02:58,080 --> 00:03:00,560 Speaker 8: he kind of carries the flag for the for a 62 00:03:00,600 --> 00:03:05,440 Speaker 8: lot of quarterbacks who are draft eligible and who are 63 00:03:05,480 --> 00:03:08,720 Speaker 8: talked about this. And I'll be honest, his throwing motion 64 00:03:08,840 --> 00:03:10,919 Speaker 8: has not looked the same to me this year than 65 00:03:10,960 --> 00:03:14,280 Speaker 8: it did last year. So I don't know if mechanically 66 00:03:14,320 --> 00:03:16,440 Speaker 8: he's doing something different or he did something different in 67 00:03:16,480 --> 00:03:18,640 Speaker 8: the offseason. I don't know if it's due to an 68 00:03:18,639 --> 00:03:21,200 Speaker 8: injury he's playing through. I'm not sure what it is. 69 00:03:22,080 --> 00:03:25,960 Speaker 8: But his arm slot is a lot lower than what 70 00:03:26,080 --> 00:03:28,000 Speaker 8: it was last year for the couple of starts he 71 00:03:28,440 --> 00:03:30,880 Speaker 8: made and during the times I saw him out there, 72 00:03:31,680 --> 00:03:33,520 Speaker 8: So I'm not sure what to. 73 00:03:33,560 --> 00:03:35,160 Speaker 2: Make of any of that. 74 00:03:35,400 --> 00:03:39,680 Speaker 8: Only he knows Steve Sarkesian knows, but just from watching film, 75 00:03:40,480 --> 00:03:42,839 Speaker 8: it doesn't look the same as it did last year. 76 00:03:43,800 --> 00:03:46,600 Speaker 8: And I'm not sure why. But to his point, he 77 00:03:46,880 --> 00:03:49,160 Speaker 8: didn't play well early in the season. He's playing better. 78 00:03:49,560 --> 00:03:54,840 Speaker 8: The offense as a whole is playing better, but he's 79 00:03:54,920 --> 00:03:56,640 Speaker 8: the one that carries the flag for the rest. Like 80 00:03:56,680 --> 00:04:01,760 Speaker 8: he's received the most kind of blame or criticism than anyone. 81 00:04:02,120 --> 00:04:04,600 Speaker 2: And what's shocking is if you went and looked. 82 00:04:04,360 --> 00:04:06,200 Speaker 8: At and Jonah's tried to look this up, if you can, 83 00:04:06,840 --> 00:04:10,800 Speaker 8: like the pre college football, like you know, quarterbacks who 84 00:04:10,800 --> 00:04:13,720 Speaker 8: are draft eligible, I mean, none of them have played well. 85 00:04:14,480 --> 00:04:16,680 Speaker 8: I mean not to kick a guy ways down because 86 00:04:16,720 --> 00:04:18,960 Speaker 8: Drew Aller got hurt, but Drew Aller did not have 87 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:22,120 Speaker 8: anywhere close to the year people were anticipating. 88 00:04:22,160 --> 00:04:24,560 Speaker 2: Penn State fans were hoping. If we're just being honest, 89 00:04:25,080 --> 00:04:25,880 Speaker 2: not even close. 90 00:04:27,200 --> 00:04:30,440 Speaker 8: Club Nick has not played well for Clems, at least 91 00:04:30,480 --> 00:04:33,159 Speaker 8: not up to expectations at the beginning of the year. 92 00:04:33,440 --> 00:04:37,200 Speaker 8: Leonora Sellers he was a hot name. Yeah, he has 93 00:04:37,240 --> 00:04:40,520 Speaker 8: not played well at all. I mean, honestly, like a 94 00:04:40,560 --> 00:04:43,040 Speaker 8: lot of the guys who are draft eligible in NFL 95 00:04:43,120 --> 00:04:45,520 Speaker 8: teams who were you know, lining up to try to 96 00:04:45,560 --> 00:04:48,680 Speaker 8: put themselves in position maybe to take one. They're going 97 00:04:48,760 --> 00:04:52,080 Speaker 8: to have a hard time evaluating this class because it 98 00:04:52,120 --> 00:04:56,479 Speaker 8: has not been a good year so far. Meyer Garretts 99 00:04:56,520 --> 00:04:59,160 Speaker 8: Smeyer hasn't played as well. I mean, granted they don't 100 00:04:59,160 --> 00:05:00,719 Speaker 8: have a run game at all. Was you're the worst 101 00:05:00,760 --> 00:05:03,320 Speaker 8: in the SEC, but he's been inconsistent. 102 00:05:03,440 --> 00:05:05,159 Speaker 5: Leonora Sellers time. 103 00:05:05,279 --> 00:05:07,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mentioned that. I just mentioned. It's all right, 104 00:05:08,480 --> 00:05:10,240 Speaker 2: look it up. It's good. 105 00:05:10,560 --> 00:05:12,400 Speaker 7: I mean, you know, you kind of. 106 00:05:12,360 --> 00:05:13,239 Speaker 2: Get the general point. 107 00:05:13,279 --> 00:05:16,800 Speaker 8: Like Dante More to me at Fernando Mendoza, of the 108 00:05:16,800 --> 00:05:20,880 Speaker 8: two guys so far this year have played the best. 109 00:05:20,880 --> 00:05:23,360 Speaker 8: If you're just looking at the tape, those would be 110 00:05:23,440 --> 00:05:24,520 Speaker 8: your top two quarterbacks. 111 00:05:25,120 --> 00:05:27,520 Speaker 2: Carson Beck as well. He'd bet there'd be one, two, three. 112 00:05:27,960 --> 00:05:29,479 Speaker 2: Maybe they be those three guys. 113 00:05:29,600 --> 00:05:32,520 Speaker 8: Maybe some teams see them differently, but I would if 114 00:05:32,680 --> 00:05:35,880 Speaker 8: someone challenged me and said, oh no, no, it's those 115 00:05:35,920 --> 00:05:38,320 Speaker 8: three guys like those those three have played the best. 116 00:05:38,920 --> 00:05:42,360 Speaker 8: Who are draft eligible? Now, I keep throwing my guy CJ. 117 00:05:42,440 --> 00:05:44,800 Speaker 2: Car and there. He's not draft eligible yet, but he's 118 00:05:44,839 --> 00:05:47,279 Speaker 2: played really well so far this year. For a retro refreshman, 119 00:05:47,320 --> 00:05:48,840 Speaker 2: I'd put his taper up first anyone. 120 00:05:49,440 --> 00:05:54,080 Speaker 4: But so is it just coincidental that all these quarterbacks 121 00:05:54,080 --> 00:05:58,520 Speaker 4: who were top prospects going into the season have struggled 122 00:05:58,880 --> 00:06:03,640 Speaker 4: or is this maybe people have to reconsider not only 123 00:06:03,680 --> 00:06:07,440 Speaker 4: preseason rankings from a team to team standpoint, but where 124 00:06:07,440 --> 00:06:09,160 Speaker 4: you stack these players going into the year. 125 00:06:09,960 --> 00:06:10,760 Speaker 2: Dude, here's the thing. 126 00:06:11,240 --> 00:06:15,200 Speaker 8: It's tough in the media business because you got to 127 00:06:15,240 --> 00:06:18,520 Speaker 8: say like these outlandish things for things to go viral 128 00:06:18,600 --> 00:06:21,559 Speaker 8: or for people to pay attention. And so there's people 129 00:06:21,560 --> 00:06:23,520 Speaker 8: who really want to go out there on a limb 130 00:06:24,200 --> 00:06:29,200 Speaker 8: and make these grand proclamations, and it's tough because that's 131 00:06:29,240 --> 00:06:30,080 Speaker 8: the world we live in. 132 00:06:30,160 --> 00:06:31,920 Speaker 2: Like, it's tough to grab people's attention. 133 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:34,240 Speaker 8: If if you just said, yeah, I think he's going 134 00:06:34,320 --> 00:06:36,080 Speaker 8: to be pretty good this year, but I want to 135 00:06:36,080 --> 00:06:37,120 Speaker 8: get four you on five. 136 00:06:37,040 --> 00:06:40,040 Speaker 2: Six games in the season and it ain't going viral. No. 137 00:06:40,440 --> 00:06:44,239 Speaker 8: By the way, who's listening, who's driving right now listening 138 00:06:44,279 --> 00:06:48,320 Speaker 8: to this show? Goes all right? Man, really really big 139 00:06:48,320 --> 00:06:50,919 Speaker 8: on him? Right, Like, I mean, think about if you 140 00:06:51,040 --> 00:06:53,919 Speaker 8: have compared that to dating. Yeah, I don't know's she 141 00:06:54,240 --> 00:06:55,880 Speaker 8: checks all the boxes, but I want to go on 142 00:06:55,920 --> 00:06:58,279 Speaker 8: to like five or six seven dates before I really 143 00:06:58,320 --> 00:07:00,280 Speaker 8: get an idea like most of us to be like, well, 144 00:07:00,279 --> 00:07:03,200 Speaker 8: that's kind of reasonable, but they'd be like, oh, she 145 00:07:03,279 --> 00:07:06,159 Speaker 8: must not be that hot, she must not be that cool, right. 146 00:07:07,080 --> 00:07:08,720 Speaker 2: I mean, that's that's literally how it is. 147 00:07:08,760 --> 00:07:11,320 Speaker 8: Like people make it seem as if like, if these 148 00:07:11,360 --> 00:07:14,480 Speaker 8: guys don't hit the ground running and they don't play 149 00:07:14,520 --> 00:07:17,480 Speaker 8: the way up to our expectations and throw for five 150 00:07:17,560 --> 00:07:19,280 Speaker 8: hundred yards and six like they're. 151 00:07:19,160 --> 00:07:20,400 Speaker 2: They're noting good. 152 00:07:21,480 --> 00:07:23,600 Speaker 8: I mean that that's that's the tough part about being 153 00:07:23,640 --> 00:07:27,000 Speaker 8: a quarterback, I think in today's world, especially for the 154 00:07:27,040 --> 00:07:29,600 Speaker 8: guys who enter the NFL's rookies. Like we talked about 155 00:07:29,600 --> 00:07:33,040 Speaker 8: cam Mood and then LaVar alluded to it like another 156 00:07:33,360 --> 00:07:36,280 Speaker 8: number one overall draft pick whose head coach gets fired 157 00:07:36,880 --> 00:07:40,320 Speaker 8: and then it throws his development, it throws where it 158 00:07:40,360 --> 00:07:43,160 Speaker 8: goes from there, uh like to the wind, like you 159 00:07:43,160 --> 00:07:45,160 Speaker 8: have no idea if he's gonna look out and hopefully 160 00:07:45,000 --> 00:07:47,600 Speaker 8: they find a coach who can help him, or if 161 00:07:47,600 --> 00:07:49,560 Speaker 8: he's not. But like that, it's become not the same 162 00:07:49,560 --> 00:07:51,440 Speaker 8: thing in college, And I'm not sure if it's because 163 00:07:51,440 --> 00:07:55,000 Speaker 8: these kids are getting paid and the expectation now is, hey, 164 00:07:55,040 --> 00:07:58,360 Speaker 8: they're professional football players, you know, they're making seven figures. 165 00:07:59,320 --> 00:08:02,840 Speaker 2: They should be criticized, they should be subject to that. 166 00:08:04,160 --> 00:08:06,080 Speaker 8: I don't know if it's that part of it or what, 167 00:08:06,280 --> 00:08:09,040 Speaker 8: but I do feel like we forget this is a 168 00:08:09,080 --> 00:08:13,160 Speaker 8: developmental sport, especially this level. Like these kids are still 169 00:08:13,480 --> 00:08:18,000 Speaker 8: evolving and that's okay. They're gonna make mistakes, and we 170 00:08:18,480 --> 00:08:21,480 Speaker 8: tend to not be very welcoming to that. 171 00:08:21,560 --> 00:08:25,440 Speaker 4: I guess why do preseason All Americans exist? 172 00:08:26,040 --> 00:08:29,280 Speaker 7: Well, they should exists. Preseason All America is your body 173 00:08:29,320 --> 00:08:32,960 Speaker 7: of work. I mean, you're the same person, so you 174 00:08:33,000 --> 00:08:35,840 Speaker 7: should be in theory as a preseason All American. You're 175 00:08:35,920 --> 00:08:38,560 Speaker 7: just basically saying, we're highlighting who we believe to be 176 00:08:38,600 --> 00:08:41,040 Speaker 7: the most elite player. Yeah, but you could have, Well, 177 00:08:41,080 --> 00:08:45,280 Speaker 7: you were good last year, yeah, correct, and you're perceivably 178 00:08:45,400 --> 00:08:48,760 Speaker 7: yeah right, so perceivably you should be good this year. 179 00:08:50,040 --> 00:08:51,520 Speaker 7: I mean it's just a foreshadow. 180 00:08:51,679 --> 00:08:56,040 Speaker 2: Again. It's just like Jonas before, this season was a 181 00:08:56,040 --> 00:09:01,720 Speaker 2: preseason the hype. I mean some would say your bets 182 00:09:01,720 --> 00:09:03,040 Speaker 2: have not this week was nice. 183 00:09:03,440 --> 00:09:06,200 Speaker 4: I've been called and Brady can attest to this. Somebody 184 00:09:06,240 --> 00:09:09,240 Speaker 4: stopped me and said, you're the Jeremiah Love of Fox 185 00:09:09,240 --> 00:09:10,439 Speaker 4: Sports Radio, and I said. 186 00:09:10,240 --> 00:09:10,760 Speaker 7: Thanks, man. 187 00:09:11,600 --> 00:09:12,560 Speaker 2: No one has ever said that. 188 00:09:12,600 --> 00:09:13,480 Speaker 5: They never said that. 189 00:09:14,200 --> 00:09:14,400 Speaker 2: Never. 190 00:09:15,000 --> 00:09:19,080 Speaker 8: There's never been a comparison to you and Jeremiah Love 191 00:09:19,280 --> 00:09:23,480 Speaker 8: in your entire life, in any capacity, in any environment, 192 00:09:24,440 --> 00:09:27,760 Speaker 8: never ever, nor will there be. 193 00:09:29,440 --> 00:09:35,360 Speaker 7: I'll ask them, Oh my gosh, listen. I think I 194 00:09:35,400 --> 00:09:39,640 Speaker 7: think we have created at you know, in football culture, 195 00:09:40,360 --> 00:09:44,520 Speaker 7: you almost have to be perfect to be the guy 196 00:09:44,559 --> 00:09:47,960 Speaker 7: that wins the Heisman. And I think we measure and 197 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:52,959 Speaker 7: we weigh more specifically quarterbacks, but we also do it. 198 00:09:52,960 --> 00:09:55,680 Speaker 7: We're guilty of doing it to the other position groups 199 00:09:55,679 --> 00:09:58,480 Speaker 7: as well. We'll do it to running back, We'll do 200 00:09:58,559 --> 00:10:02,240 Speaker 7: it to receivers, We'll do it to them. As it 201 00:10:02,280 --> 00:10:06,360 Speaker 7: applies to are you Are you in position to win 202 00:10:06,400 --> 00:10:09,560 Speaker 7: the Heisman? So I don't think that when we're judging 203 00:10:09,600 --> 00:10:14,760 Speaker 7: these players and their shortcomings or you know, what the 204 00:10:14,800 --> 00:10:18,160 Speaker 7: standard is supposed to be. I think guys are trying 205 00:10:18,240 --> 00:10:21,280 Speaker 7: to live up to and the public, the general public 206 00:10:21,760 --> 00:10:24,800 Speaker 7: is looking at guys trying to live up to what 207 00:10:24,960 --> 00:10:28,920 Speaker 7: that standard has been created, you know, whether whether for 208 00:10:29,000 --> 00:10:33,160 Speaker 7: fair weather, for for not fair weather, for for you know, 209 00:10:33,320 --> 00:10:38,000 Speaker 7: maybe being legit and accurate or being inaccurate. It's it's 210 00:10:38,200 --> 00:10:41,720 Speaker 7: all based off of are you living up to what 211 00:10:41,840 --> 00:10:45,160 Speaker 7: the standard of winning the Heisman is. It's like you're 212 00:10:45,240 --> 00:10:49,520 Speaker 7: always trying. If you've been deemed a Heisman candidate, it's 213 00:10:49,559 --> 00:10:55,480 Speaker 7: like you're living with the blessing of being recognized that way, 214 00:10:55,880 --> 00:10:58,840 Speaker 7: but you're also living with the curse of every single 215 00:10:58,920 --> 00:11:01,840 Speaker 7: thing you do is going to be scrutinized and it's 216 00:11:01,840 --> 00:11:04,640 Speaker 7: going to be broken down, it's going to be analyzed, 217 00:11:04,679 --> 00:11:06,800 Speaker 7: and people are going to talk about it. And if 218 00:11:06,800 --> 00:11:10,360 Speaker 7: it's short up like this is what's crazy. If it's 219 00:11:10,480 --> 00:11:16,240 Speaker 7: short of spectacular, then it's not good enough. And that's 220 00:11:16,280 --> 00:11:18,480 Speaker 7: like kind of what it turns out to be. 221 00:11:19,120 --> 00:11:23,160 Speaker 4: But why why set the expectations at that when an 222 00:11:23,360 --> 00:11:26,679 Speaker 4: entire season needs to play out before you see what's 223 00:11:26,760 --> 00:11:29,040 Speaker 4: real and what's not. Like cam Ward, nobody at cam 224 00:11:29,080 --> 00:11:34,559 Speaker 4: Ward is as a Heisman candidate last year, Like it's. 225 00:11:34,360 --> 00:11:35,840 Speaker 2: A selling I don't know if that's true. 226 00:11:35,840 --> 00:11:37,480 Speaker 7: Actually not on my list. 227 00:11:38,720 --> 00:11:40,640 Speaker 8: Well yeah, but there was some people who watched him 228 00:11:40,640 --> 00:11:42,520 Speaker 8: at Washington State and had him as like a dark horse. 229 00:11:42,720 --> 00:11:45,280 Speaker 7: I just thought it's a it's a selling it's a 230 00:11:45,320 --> 00:11:49,040 Speaker 7: selling point, just like a preseason ranking is a selling point. 231 00:11:49,200 --> 00:11:52,320 Speaker 7: It's a way for you to sell the product even more, 232 00:11:52,440 --> 00:11:53,600 Speaker 7: develop the product. 233 00:11:53,720 --> 00:11:54,760 Speaker 2: Why do you need to do? Mark? 234 00:11:55,080 --> 00:11:55,720 Speaker 7: What do you mean? 235 00:11:55,800 --> 00:11:57,960 Speaker 5: Why do you need to It's great? Why do you 236 00:11:58,040 --> 00:12:00,640 Speaker 5: what what? It sells itself when the game started. 237 00:12:01,160 --> 00:12:04,319 Speaker 8: Here's the thing is, if you're, for example, if you're 238 00:12:04,320 --> 00:12:06,920 Speaker 8: not in Oklahoma, non Texas or I should say not 239 00:12:06,960 --> 00:12:08,240 Speaker 8: a Texas Longhorn fan. 240 00:12:08,960 --> 00:12:10,160 Speaker 2: Do you care about red River? 241 00:12:11,559 --> 00:12:11,760 Speaker 7: No? 242 00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:14,920 Speaker 2: I mean honestly, like, do you care? No? No, But 243 00:12:15,000 --> 00:12:16,640 Speaker 2: if you throw some rankings. 244 00:12:16,280 --> 00:12:18,680 Speaker 7: Fan, if you're a big fan, you might yeah. 245 00:12:18,760 --> 00:12:21,439 Speaker 8: But if you throw some rankings next to him, you 246 00:12:21,480 --> 00:12:25,040 Speaker 8: market the fact that, hey, you know one of the Mannings, 247 00:12:26,000 --> 00:12:27,560 Speaker 8: you got the next Manning coming through. 248 00:12:27,600 --> 00:12:28,400 Speaker 2: He's getting a part of. 249 00:12:28,400 --> 00:12:31,480 Speaker 7: This, which makes people better if you say Manning up 250 00:12:31,520 --> 00:12:35,000 Speaker 7: for the Heisman, cause it's like, I know he's a Manning. 251 00:12:35,120 --> 00:12:37,920 Speaker 7: That makes it interesting. If you're saying he's a Manning 252 00:12:37,960 --> 00:12:40,080 Speaker 7: that's up for the Heisman, then now you've given me 253 00:12:40,200 --> 00:12:44,079 Speaker 7: the message that he's going to be as spectacular, as 254 00:12:44,640 --> 00:12:48,839 Speaker 7: as impressive as his uncle. His uncle, he didn't have 255 00:12:48,880 --> 00:12:50,640 Speaker 7: a chance to live up to the hype this year. 256 00:12:50,679 --> 00:12:53,400 Speaker 7: You always have a chance, that's the cool thing about it. 257 00:12:53,480 --> 00:12:56,040 Speaker 7: But a lot of times you don't live up to it. 258 00:12:56,080 --> 00:12:58,720 Speaker 7: I mean, that's just that's the reality of it. 259 00:12:58,920 --> 00:13:01,720 Speaker 8: In defense of Art, I do feel like it was 260 00:13:02,480 --> 00:13:06,560 Speaker 8: astronomical and honestly, like we had Ohio State Texas, you know, 261 00:13:06,640 --> 00:13:09,200 Speaker 8: we played a small role in that. And then look, 262 00:13:09,320 --> 00:13:12,320 Speaker 8: I'll be honest, I was excited to see him play, 263 00:13:12,400 --> 00:13:16,760 Speaker 8: and it just I'm telling you, man, something doesn't look 264 00:13:17,080 --> 00:13:21,680 Speaker 8: right with his motion the way he's you know, throwing 265 00:13:21,679 --> 00:13:23,560 Speaker 8: the football this year compared to what it looked like 266 00:13:23,679 --> 00:13:26,320 Speaker 8: last year. And I'd have to go back and look, 267 00:13:26,360 --> 00:13:28,079 Speaker 8: but it just it does not look the same. The 268 00:13:28,200 --> 00:13:31,640 Speaker 8: armslot looks lower, there's not as much. Honestly, when I 269 00:13:31,679 --> 00:13:35,920 Speaker 8: watched his ball, it doesn't rotate the way it did 270 00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:38,560 Speaker 8: last year. Like it's like there's not as many revolutions 271 00:13:38,559 --> 00:13:41,000 Speaker 8: on the ball. And so I'm not sure if that's 272 00:13:41,040 --> 00:13:44,320 Speaker 8: a byproduct of something he's changed his grip is, you know, 273 00:13:44,320 --> 00:13:45,120 Speaker 8: how he's throwing it. 274 00:13:45,120 --> 00:13:46,320 Speaker 2: It just it doesn't look the same. 275 00:13:49,880 --> 00:13:52,360 Speaker 8: My best guess would be there's a shoulder issue that 276 00:13:52,400 --> 00:13:55,160 Speaker 8: would need to be cleaned up in the offseason, and 277 00:13:55,200 --> 00:14:00,240 Speaker 8: he's playing through it for a number of reasons. Could 278 00:14:00,240 --> 00:14:03,560 Speaker 8: be because you know, he wants to tough it out. 279 00:14:03,640 --> 00:14:05,320 Speaker 8: He wants to be the leader he wants to play 280 00:14:05,360 --> 00:14:07,959 Speaker 8: through this. It could be that they don't feel great 281 00:14:07,960 --> 00:14:11,040 Speaker 8: about the depth they have there behind him. I'm sure 282 00:14:11,040 --> 00:14:12,439 Speaker 8: there's a lot of guys who when they went there 283 00:14:12,440 --> 00:14:14,440 Speaker 8: that are like, well, I'm not playing anytime soon with 284 00:14:14,559 --> 00:14:15,120 Speaker 8: arches here. 285 00:14:15,840 --> 00:14:19,240 Speaker 2: So there could be some of that, But that's. 286 00:14:19,360 --> 00:14:21,960 Speaker 8: That's the only thing I can think of, because you know, 287 00:14:22,080 --> 00:14:25,120 Speaker 8: typically if you look at the biomechanics of a throwing 288 00:14:25,160 --> 00:14:28,480 Speaker 8: motion right, like everything from your feet up if you're 289 00:14:28,520 --> 00:14:31,320 Speaker 8: injured is going to impact it to some degree. But 290 00:14:31,800 --> 00:14:34,120 Speaker 8: like the snap at the end of it, and then 291 00:14:34,320 --> 00:14:38,440 Speaker 8: watching the ball spin, you know that shouldn't be impacted. 292 00:14:38,960 --> 00:14:41,280 Speaker 8: It's not impacted by anything. For the lower body, it's 293 00:14:41,320 --> 00:14:44,320 Speaker 8: impacted by something from the torso up and it's just 294 00:14:44,480 --> 00:14:46,200 Speaker 8: watching it, it's just it's weird. 295 00:14:46,520 --> 00:14:49,360 Speaker 2: Again, this is not And I've even went back. 296 00:14:49,160 --> 00:14:52,400 Speaker 8: And watched his starts last year just to compare, because 297 00:14:52,400 --> 00:14:54,160 Speaker 8: I'm like, am I seeing something or am I like 298 00:14:54,200 --> 00:14:55,120 Speaker 8: making something up? 299 00:14:55,920 --> 00:14:57,680 Speaker 2: And there's just something off. It doesn't look the same. 300 00:14:57,800 --> 00:15:00,520 Speaker 7: I think, what even all that being said, if he 301 00:15:00,640 --> 00:15:03,080 Speaker 7: comes in with the type of hype that was behind 302 00:15:03,160 --> 00:15:06,800 Speaker 7: him and he plays well through in spite of it, 303 00:15:06,960 --> 00:15:11,400 Speaker 7: through it all. That's what it's like for every story 304 00:15:11,800 --> 00:15:15,440 Speaker 7: where you don't live up to the expectation, or you 305 00:15:15,720 --> 00:15:18,000 Speaker 7: have a drop off, or it doesn't play out the 306 00:15:18,000 --> 00:15:21,040 Speaker 7: way that maybe people wanted it to play out. There 307 00:15:21,080 --> 00:15:24,400 Speaker 7: are times it does. There are times where it does 308 00:15:24,480 --> 00:15:26,280 Speaker 7: play out like you think about like a joke. 309 00:15:26,360 --> 00:15:28,200 Speaker 2: Govern never seen it, dude. It is hyped up as 310 00:15:28,640 --> 00:15:29,520 Speaker 2: but Joe Burrow. 311 00:15:30,040 --> 00:15:32,000 Speaker 8: I think guys are Joe Burrow wasn't hyped up like 312 00:15:32,000 --> 00:15:34,080 Speaker 8: that Joe Burrow's first year at LSU. 313 00:15:34,240 --> 00:15:36,160 Speaker 2: But it was his first seven eight games. He didn't 314 00:15:36,160 --> 00:15:36,960 Speaker 2: play that great. 315 00:15:37,200 --> 00:15:39,760 Speaker 8: It wasn't til the second half of that season and 316 00:15:39,800 --> 00:15:42,640 Speaker 8: then they really started like going through these tough games 317 00:15:42,920 --> 00:15:45,080 Speaker 8: and he was playing whites out and then that built. 318 00:15:45,960 --> 00:15:48,840 Speaker 2: But like there's there was there's never been as much. 319 00:15:48,720 --> 00:15:51,440 Speaker 8: Hype as there was for arch Manning a week one 320 00:15:51,560 --> 00:15:53,600 Speaker 8: and before the season, in. 321 00:15:53,600 --> 00:15:55,960 Speaker 2: All seriousness, and that's not a detriment to him. 322 00:15:56,000 --> 00:15:59,360 Speaker 8: But dude, LeVar, but trust me, people were talking about 323 00:15:59,400 --> 00:16:01,200 Speaker 8: him being the number one overall pick. People talk about 324 00:16:01,200 --> 00:16:04,800 Speaker 8: being the heavy Heisman favorite. I mean, it's it's not 325 00:16:04,880 --> 00:16:05,480 Speaker 8: even close. 326 00:16:06,200 --> 00:16:08,680 Speaker 7: I don't know. I mean I think about guys like 327 00:16:08,760 --> 00:16:11,960 Speaker 7: Andrew Luck and going into their last season, not even 328 00:16:11,960 --> 00:16:12,440 Speaker 7: Andrew Luck. 329 00:16:12,520 --> 00:16:15,720 Speaker 2: Dude, it's not a big enough brand. This is Texas, 330 00:16:16,440 --> 00:16:17,280 Speaker 2: this is ut. 331 00:16:18,640 --> 00:16:20,040 Speaker 8: And this is the team that was, by the way, 332 00:16:20,040 --> 00:16:22,520 Speaker 8: the odds on favorite to win the national Championship. 333 00:16:22,520 --> 00:16:24,440 Speaker 7: I would offer you the same reason. And you just 334 00:16:24,440 --> 00:16:27,000 Speaker 7: said about the river rivalry. I don't. I mean, I 335 00:16:27,000 --> 00:16:30,040 Speaker 7: don't think that applies an appeal that's appealing to everyone. 336 00:16:30,080 --> 00:16:33,560 Speaker 7: Nexas fans are pretty obnoxious. I get it within their 337 00:16:33,640 --> 00:16:34,960 Speaker 7: their community, I get that. 338 00:16:35,000 --> 00:16:37,120 Speaker 2: But to say no to this, I'm telling you this. 339 00:16:38,600 --> 00:16:43,440 Speaker 8: Athing Yes, you're talking about the last name a huge 340 00:16:43,480 --> 00:16:46,080 Speaker 8: college brand, Steven the way the season started two. 341 00:16:45,920 --> 00:16:48,640 Speaker 4: Starts and he was the odds on favorite to the 342 00:16:48,680 --> 00:16:51,920 Speaker 4: two starts, and teams in the NFL were going to 343 00:16:52,120 --> 00:16:56,480 Speaker 4: tank for his services next year off two starts. 344 00:16:56,560 --> 00:16:59,200 Speaker 7: I get that, but I mean there have been some. 345 00:16:59,240 --> 00:17:01,880 Speaker 2: Never in the history been there as much hype ever. 346 00:17:02,760 --> 00:17:05,639 Speaker 7: I mean, you, okay, you don't have a problem with 347 00:17:05,680 --> 00:17:07,400 Speaker 7: it for you guys. I mean, if that's how y'all 348 00:17:07,440 --> 00:17:09,320 Speaker 7: want to roll with it, y'all roll with it that way. 349 00:17:09,359 --> 00:17:11,560 Speaker 7: I don't, necessarily, I think there's been a lot of 350 00:17:11,600 --> 00:17:15,840 Speaker 7: guys throughout the years that have been truly, truly, truly 351 00:17:15,920 --> 00:17:19,800 Speaker 7: hyped up athletes coming into the season were regardless of 352 00:17:21,440 --> 00:17:25,639 Speaker 7: I was, and I'm sure ca listen, the bottom line 353 00:17:25,720 --> 00:17:28,280 Speaker 7: is is that even if you are the most hyped ever, 354 00:17:28,560 --> 00:17:30,440 Speaker 7: like I don't want to get caught up on one 355 00:17:31,680 --> 00:17:35,240 Speaker 7: one line item of being hyped up going there have 356 00:17:35,280 --> 00:17:38,199 Speaker 7: been plenty of guys that are hyped going into a season, 357 00:17:38,760 --> 00:17:42,280 Speaker 7: no words, And at the end, for me, either you're 358 00:17:42,320 --> 00:17:44,159 Speaker 7: going to live up to the hype or you're not. 359 00:17:44,840 --> 00:17:48,200 Speaker 7: Like that's ultimately how I've always looked at anybody that's 360 00:17:48,240 --> 00:17:51,360 Speaker 7: come into it, whether it's a quarterback, running back, receiver, 361 00:17:52,040 --> 00:17:54,920 Speaker 7: I mean, you're I just I just you gotta when 362 00:17:54,960 --> 00:17:58,800 Speaker 7: you're on that Heightsman list, like whether it was was 363 00:17:58,960 --> 00:18:00,600 Speaker 7: Johnny footballall lord. 364 00:18:00,840 --> 00:18:05,160 Speaker 8: Tim Cap saying that in saying that most guys who 365 00:18:05,160 --> 00:18:09,360 Speaker 8: are on that Heisman list, to Jonas's point, they've played games. 366 00:18:10,359 --> 00:18:11,760 Speaker 2: He had started two games. 367 00:18:12,080 --> 00:18:16,120 Speaker 8: No, I'm not, listen, I'm not disputing like, no one's 368 00:18:16,160 --> 00:18:19,720 Speaker 8: on a Heisman list after starting two games the next year, 369 00:18:20,280 --> 00:18:23,560 Speaker 8: it's just very very rare as far as the favorite, 370 00:18:23,720 --> 00:18:26,520 Speaker 8: Like we're not talking about he's on a list, LeVar 371 00:18:26,720 --> 00:18:29,680 Speaker 8: like always a preseason no, no, no, No, he was the 372 00:18:29,760 --> 00:18:34,560 Speaker 8: betting favorite. Texas was the betting favorite to win the 373 00:18:34,680 --> 00:18:38,120 Speaker 8: National championsh I get it. It's it's but you still 374 00:18:38,200 --> 00:18:38,919 Speaker 8: kind of unheard of. 375 00:18:39,119 --> 00:18:43,840 Speaker 7: You still have to prove out or not obviously by 376 00:18:44,000 --> 00:18:48,320 Speaker 7: standard of what what's being represented. Like nobody disputed it. 377 00:18:48,640 --> 00:18:51,399 Speaker 7: Nobody came out from the Manning family. Is like, listen, 378 00:18:51,640 --> 00:18:53,800 Speaker 7: don't say nothing about him. He didn't come out and say, 379 00:18:53,800 --> 00:18:56,159 Speaker 7: don't say nothing about me. I mean, and I'm not 380 00:18:56,200 --> 00:18:58,879 Speaker 7: saying he needed to or anybody else needed to. The 381 00:18:58,960 --> 00:19:01,200 Speaker 7: hype is the hype. If you're able to hype train 382 00:19:01,280 --> 00:19:05,239 Speaker 7: it and connect that that caboose to somebody that's going 383 00:19:05,280 --> 00:19:07,480 Speaker 7: to carry it, you do it. We had a fifth 384 00:19:07,560 --> 00:19:11,239 Speaker 7: round draft pick carry an entire NFL draft. If you 385 00:19:11,359 --> 00:19:13,320 Speaker 7: if you found something that you can hype up and 386 00:19:13,359 --> 00:19:16,800 Speaker 7: you can link to, you do it. That's all I'm saying. 387 00:19:17,119 --> 00:19:19,640 Speaker 7: And you can live up to the hype or you cannot. 388 00:19:19,680 --> 00:19:22,119 Speaker 7: But what was you what it would use for? 389 00:19:22,640 --> 00:19:23,600 Speaker 2: It worked? 390 00:19:24,280 --> 00:19:26,040 Speaker 7: There was a lot of hypt It worked. 391 00:19:26,119 --> 00:19:30,000 Speaker 8: Speaking of hype and the whole Jersey retirement, I think 392 00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:33,000 Speaker 8: they're just now retiring Cordell Stewart, Is that right? 393 00:19:34,080 --> 00:19:37,760 Speaker 7: I don't know. They decided to do that. Huh. Yeah, 394 00:19:38,080 --> 00:19:41,280 Speaker 7: it's like, let's have offset this a little bit. 395 00:19:42,520 --> 00:19:44,760 Speaker 2: Like I think I have to you go check. 396 00:19:44,840 --> 00:19:46,520 Speaker 8: Someone had told me that because I kind of haven't 397 00:19:46,520 --> 00:19:49,520 Speaker 8: been paying as much attention of been watching them on film. 398 00:19:49,560 --> 00:19:53,520 Speaker 8: But obviously, you know, see's not getting as much attention 399 00:19:53,520 --> 00:19:57,680 Speaker 8: as they were last year. But it's and that's the 400 00:19:57,720 --> 00:19:58,879 Speaker 8: whole other conversation. 401 00:19:58,960 --> 00:20:05,400 Speaker 4: I guess it's not been retired, but he's in the 402 00:20:05,480 --> 00:20:08,720 Speaker 4: Colorado Sports Hall of Fame twenty twenty six class. 403 00:20:09,600 --> 00:20:10,880 Speaker 5: Like they took that long. 404 00:20:10,960 --> 00:20:12,840 Speaker 2: I think they're looking to retire it or something. 405 00:20:14,440 --> 00:20:20,040 Speaker 7: Would you watch your jersey retire, Donny? Yeah? No, Jonas 406 00:20:20,680 --> 00:20:22,879 Speaker 7: conversation you're not a part of Sorry I. 407 00:20:24,480 --> 00:20:24,720 Speaker 5: Would. 408 00:20:27,040 --> 00:20:29,840 Speaker 8: I wouldn't, only because like I don't understand the significance. 409 00:20:29,880 --> 00:20:34,080 Speaker 8: And also like I remember being young and like there 410 00:20:34,160 --> 00:20:36,280 Speaker 8: was a reason why you wore the number ten at 411 00:20:36,320 --> 00:20:39,360 Speaker 8: my high school, Like that was significant, that was meaningful. 412 00:20:40,359 --> 00:20:41,400 Speaker 2: Unfortunately, since then. 413 00:20:41,320 --> 00:20:43,840 Speaker 8: It's kind of like lost its way because you know, 414 00:20:43,960 --> 00:20:46,720 Speaker 8: times change and kids want to have their own number. 415 00:20:46,720 --> 00:20:48,760 Speaker 8: But like it's kind of like in soccer, you know 416 00:20:48,760 --> 00:20:51,600 Speaker 8: when someone is downing ten, you're like, I. 417 00:20:51,600 --> 00:20:54,560 Speaker 2: Know that guy's good. It was like that too at 418 00:20:54,560 --> 00:20:55,200 Speaker 2: my high school. 419 00:20:55,720 --> 00:20:59,520 Speaker 8: So it had importance for me for like that lineage 420 00:20:59,520 --> 00:21:02,200 Speaker 8: of guys game before me and then hopefully guys who 421 00:21:02,200 --> 00:21:04,600 Speaker 8: came after, And that was one of the reasons why 422 00:21:04,640 --> 00:21:06,159 Speaker 8: I was important when I was in college. 423 00:21:06,200 --> 00:21:08,000 Speaker 7: Are original in that Notre Dame. 424 00:21:09,760 --> 00:21:11,400 Speaker 8: I mean, I'm not sure how you put that, but yeah, 425 00:21:12,119 --> 00:21:15,840 Speaker 8: a quarterback position, Hell yeah. I mean Matt Levekio was 426 00:21:15,880 --> 00:21:16,560 Speaker 8: ten before me. 427 00:21:16,600 --> 00:21:20,040 Speaker 2: If you don't remember yet, well okay, but. 428 00:21:19,840 --> 00:21:21,480 Speaker 8: That's kind of the general point. I mean, there wasn't 429 00:21:21,480 --> 00:21:23,840 Speaker 8: any all Americans. There weren't any play of the Year. 430 00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:25,080 Speaker 7: You're the one that made. 431 00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:28,040 Speaker 2: Sure, all right. 432 00:21:28,960 --> 00:21:31,359 Speaker 8: But but but the point is like I would never 433 00:21:31,400 --> 00:21:34,600 Speaker 8: want to stop a kid who loves that number, who 434 00:21:34,680 --> 00:21:37,360 Speaker 8: wants to go there, and then you know, wants. 435 00:21:37,119 --> 00:21:37,560 Speaker 2: To wear it. 436 00:21:37,600 --> 00:21:39,920 Speaker 8: Like it's like if it was retired, I'd say, then 437 00:21:39,960 --> 00:21:43,080 Speaker 8: I'm retired. Let the kid wear it. I mean Dane 438 00:21:43,160 --> 00:21:46,800 Speaker 8: Christ who is a bigger recruit than I was, when 439 00:21:46,800 --> 00:21:49,399 Speaker 8: he came to Notre Day, he asked, He's like, hey, 440 00:21:49,520 --> 00:21:51,360 Speaker 8: I want to wear the number ten. I was like, awesome, man, 441 00:21:51,440 --> 00:21:56,600 Speaker 8: go rocket go, you know, create your own story. 442 00:21:56,720 --> 00:21:59,800 Speaker 7: You started. All I know is, man, when you started 443 00:21:59,840 --> 00:22:03,840 Speaker 7: now and you understand how important that number is, why 444 00:22:03,880 --> 00:22:07,040 Speaker 7: would you ever want it to be out of circulation? Now? 445 00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:09,760 Speaker 2: The question is, like you understand because of eleven right. 446 00:22:09,720 --> 00:22:12,919 Speaker 7: Now, But the question becomes, do you play a part 447 00:22:13,240 --> 00:22:17,760 Speaker 7: and who wears that ten at Notre Dame? Because well, 448 00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:21,560 Speaker 7: if you're the reason why, then you should be involved 449 00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:26,520 Speaker 7: with them in the process of Warringtons as a quarterback. 450 00:22:26,560 --> 00:22:30,760 Speaker 8: Now again, I just said, like one of their big 451 00:22:30,800 --> 00:22:35,720 Speaker 8: recruits team Chris, who came from southern California, he had 452 00:22:35,800 --> 00:22:37,119 Speaker 8: come to me and he's like, hey, I want to 453 00:22:37,119 --> 00:22:40,320 Speaker 8: wear the number ten. Yeah, of course love that, so yeah, 454 00:22:40,480 --> 00:22:42,800 Speaker 8: for a period of time. But it's also like twenty 455 00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:45,320 Speaker 8: years removed. So I'm kind of not that guy where 456 00:22:44,880 --> 00:22:48,400 Speaker 8: I can turn the page and I can say like, hey, 457 00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:51,080 Speaker 8: We've got a couple of different coaches since then. 458 00:22:51,920 --> 00:22:54,040 Speaker 2: I'm not going to go around being like, hey, man, 459 00:22:54,560 --> 00:22:57,080 Speaker 2: make sure you got that quarterback. We're a ten. You know. 460 00:22:57,359 --> 00:22:58,520 Speaker 2: I'm just I'm not that guy. 461 00:22:58,640 --> 00:23:01,360 Speaker 7: It works more organic than that, you know what I mean, 462 00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:04,399 Speaker 7: Like it's based off of the reputation of it. 463 00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:05,720 Speaker 5: They need to ask your permission. 464 00:23:06,359 --> 00:23:10,080 Speaker 7: I mean, knowing he shouldn't be involved, he definitely like 465 00:23:10,320 --> 00:23:12,480 Speaker 7: where we're at, Like where we're at with the n 466 00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:16,439 Speaker 7: I l where it's at now, Like Brady Quinn should 467 00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:19,960 Speaker 7: be making a residual off of every ten jersey that 468 00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:24,800 Speaker 7: is sold, like and I don't. While we're agging him 469 00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:27,160 Speaker 7: on and we're joking, Like, I am making a serious 470 00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:30,280 Speaker 7: point right now. If you were able to build a 471 00:23:30,359 --> 00:23:35,520 Speaker 7: brand behind a number and that number is actually thriving 472 00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:38,679 Speaker 7: and has become a part of the fabric of that 473 00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:42,119 Speaker 7: that culture and that fan base, the people that built 474 00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:43,399 Speaker 7: it should benefit from it. 475 00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:47,679 Speaker 2: Well, that's and that's what mcd's with eleven. 476 00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:52,080 Speaker 7: Yeah, see you're fighting back, but that's a little, that's 477 00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:58,840 Speaker 7: a good little that's uncalled for. You know, it's uncalled for. 478 00:23:59,320 --> 00:24:01,280 Speaker 7: I took it down on a serious lane, but we 479 00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:01,639 Speaker 7: were a. 480 00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:03,760 Speaker 8: I know, I can't be serious though, you know, it's 481 00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:05,159 Speaker 8: too early to be serious in the morning. 482 00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:08,320 Speaker 7: I have issues with Matt mcglowing either. By the way, 483 00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:11,520 Speaker 7: you think they'll retire quarterback. I hope they would not 484 00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:14,920 Speaker 7: try to retire eleven based off of Matt mcgloing. How 485 00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:15,320 Speaker 7: about that. 486 00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:17,840 Speaker 5: You think they'll retire Mike back in Tijuana. 487 00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:20,959 Speaker 8: They're not going to retire Jersey. They're going to retire 488 00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:23,600 Speaker 8: your mail block number. 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Don't listen to 507 00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:10,720 Speaker 9: the show so it can get camps. 508 00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:13,400 Speaker 5: What the hell studio get him? 509 00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:13,840 Speaker 3: Pull Lee? 510 00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:18,080 Speaker 2: Ignore that fool. 511 00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:20,960 Speaker 10: Listen to the Tony Fosco Show on the iHeart Radio 512 00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:22,680 Speaker 10: app or wherever you get your podcast. 513 00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:27,520 Speaker 3: He's still moving. Be sure to catch live editions of 514 00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:30,359 Speaker 3: Two Pros and a Cup of Joe with Brady Quinn, 515 00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:34,320 Speaker 3: LeVar Arrington and Jonas Knox weekdays at six am Eastern, 516 00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:39,320 Speaker 3: three am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app. 517 00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:42,080 Speaker 4: Two Pros and a Cup of Joe, Fox Sports Radio, 518 00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:45,560 Speaker 4: LeVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with you here, come 519 00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:47,880 Speaker 4: it up. We'll call it about fifteen minutes from now, 520 00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:51,399 Speaker 4: we're gonna have our Midweek Awards, the good, the bad, 521 00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:54,520 Speaker 4: and the ugly. Those will be yours right here on FSR. 522 00:25:55,920 --> 00:25:57,000 Speaker 4: So that was pretty quick. 523 00:25:57,760 --> 00:25:58,040 Speaker 5: CJ. 524 00:25:58,200 --> 00:26:01,359 Speaker 4: Gardner Johnson has been released by the Baltimore Ravens. It 525 00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:04,480 Speaker 4: was a hell of a run. He was there a week. 526 00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:09,560 Speaker 4: So somebody who just played in the Super Bowl with 527 00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:14,320 Speaker 4: the Eagles. He's also a guy who's got the unique 528 00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:17,320 Speaker 4: ability to get people on the field, including his own teammates, 529 00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:20,200 Speaker 4: try and fight him, either in practice or in games. 530 00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:22,359 Speaker 5: And he was in Baltimore for a week. 531 00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:24,320 Speaker 4: It seems like that's a place that could use some 532 00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:29,359 Speaker 4: help in the secondary and that's it. That'll do it 533 00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:31,400 Speaker 4: for his time with the Baltimore Ravens. 534 00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:32,800 Speaker 2: He's a hell of a player. 535 00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:35,359 Speaker 8: But and this has been in since twenty twenty one, 536 00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:42,680 Speaker 8: New Orleans, Philly, Detroit, back to Philly, Houston, Baltimore. 537 00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:48,760 Speaker 4: I mean, it's a lot if you're if you're a 538 00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:52,440 Speaker 4: good player and you're bouncing around that much, not. 539 00:26:52,520 --> 00:26:56,040 Speaker 2: Great var exactly behind the scenes. 540 00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:59,760 Speaker 7: Listening being and he's a BALLHOWK Yeah, I don't. I 541 00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:03,240 Speaker 7: don't know why he just he just got released. I mean, 542 00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:07,520 Speaker 7: is there there any context to it? I just listen, 543 00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:09,600 Speaker 7: when when you can ball and you end up on 544 00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:13,360 Speaker 7: different different teams, there's a few different reasons why that 545 00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:16,160 Speaker 7: could happen. One could be it could be a numbers game. 546 00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:18,800 Speaker 7: It could be an injury. I would assume at this 547 00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:21,439 Speaker 7: point in the season, it could be an injury where 548 00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:25,320 Speaker 7: they needed to bring somebody else in at a different position, 549 00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:29,880 Speaker 7: and and that played a part in who they could 550 00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:33,159 Speaker 7: keep and who they couldn't keep, and and trying to 551 00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:36,919 Speaker 7: just keep balancing out your check book with the additions 552 00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:39,639 Speaker 7: and subtractions of what you need on your roster. I mean, 553 00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:41,040 Speaker 7: that's that's Is. 554 00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:42,720 Speaker 2: There anything he could be doing behind the scenes you 555 00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:43,120 Speaker 2: think far? 556 00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:45,879 Speaker 7: I mean, that could be that could also be a 557 00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:49,320 Speaker 7: reason why you get released very quickly and and you know, 558 00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:53,440 Speaker 7: or something you've already done behind the scenes that is 559 00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:58,119 Speaker 7: making its way to the surface. Those are always possibilities 560 00:27:58,160 --> 00:27:58,520 Speaker 7: as well. 561 00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:06,719 Speaker 4: His agent, Kevin Connor, said the split was quote an mutual, amicable, amicable, 562 00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:08,640 Speaker 4: mutual decision of course. 563 00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:11,840 Speaker 7: So in other words, they weren't playing him. He wanted 564 00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:14,600 Speaker 7: to play. If you're not going to play me, then 565 00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:16,120 Speaker 7: let me go play somewhere else. 566 00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:18,840 Speaker 4: But there, I think the worst team in the league 567 00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:22,520 Speaker 4: as far as points allowed, Like their defense is terrible. 568 00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:25,359 Speaker 4: You would think a guy like that who is a ballhawk, 569 00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:27,960 Speaker 4: who's played for a while and played at a high level, 570 00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:30,320 Speaker 4: like you, like that would be a value to the 571 00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:31,320 Speaker 4: Baltimore Ravens. 572 00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:32,640 Speaker 5: And he lasted a week? 573 00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:35,320 Speaker 8: Yeah can I Can I throw something out there too? 574 00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:39,320 Speaker 8: He just got there, Like, isn't there a learning curve 575 00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:42,400 Speaker 8: with the system? Like maybe you don't want to play 576 00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:44,640 Speaker 8: him initially because you're like a r I we want 577 00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:47,240 Speaker 8: to make sure he knows what he's doing, or if 578 00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:50,400 Speaker 8: he's just out there every time in man coverage, I'm 579 00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:51,200 Speaker 8: gonna notice that. 580 00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:52,800 Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, yeah, they just signed this guy. 581 00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:56,040 Speaker 8: Uh man man there you go, let's run our man beater, 582 00:28:56,280 --> 00:28:58,040 Speaker 8: Let's let's go and run our mash, let's go run 583 00:28:58,120 --> 00:29:00,640 Speaker 8: or whatever concept we need to run him open like, 584 00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:02,120 Speaker 8: wouldn't you think that is. 585 00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:02,680 Speaker 2: Part of it too? 586 00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:09,440 Speaker 7: I think anything can play up. Just be wild with 587 00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:14,320 Speaker 7: your speculation. Just give us a wild accusation here. I 588 00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:21,600 Speaker 7: would say the wildest, the wildest speculation, I mean, the 589 00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:27,720 Speaker 7: wildest speculation would probably be off the field. Something off 590 00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:30,600 Speaker 7: the field. Maybe he did he showed up late to 591 00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:33,960 Speaker 7: a meeting because he stayed too long for a meeting 592 00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:38,440 Speaker 7: somewhere else, you know, maybe he maybe he had a 593 00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:45,160 Speaker 7: delivery Wednesday and found himself jobless on the next day. 594 00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:48,480 Speaker 7: I don't know, but I would say that would be 595 00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:53,040 Speaker 7: the most out the most outrageous claim is I would 596 00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:55,360 Speaker 7: have given it to you, que, but we're you know, 597 00:29:56,120 --> 00:29:59,000 Speaker 7: we got to limit ourselves on how we present things 598 00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:01,720 Speaker 7: right through here. So just take a hint from that. 599 00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:05,479 Speaker 7: You know, the wildest thing you out hanging out? You 600 00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:08,479 Speaker 7: know you know what, yeah, yeah, do that look at 601 00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:10,120 Speaker 7: the look at. 602 00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:12,360 Speaker 5: Like he's everywhere he's gone. 603 00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:15,560 Speaker 4: There's been some there's some sort of an issue and 604 00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:18,480 Speaker 4: it's not. And I've seen people describe him as when 605 00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:19,760 Speaker 4: he's on your team, you love him. 606 00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:21,240 Speaker 5: When he's not, you can't stand him. 607 00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:24,560 Speaker 4: And he's like there was even a story years ago 608 00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:30,640 Speaker 4: when he was in New Orleans that Michael Thomas basically 609 00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:34,800 Speaker 4: like cracked him in practice because he was running his 610 00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:38,360 Speaker 4: mouth so much that they got into a fight in practice. 611 00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:41,240 Speaker 4: There was a playoff game against the Bears where he 612 00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:43,440 Speaker 4: got a guy to try and snatch his chain. 613 00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:44,400 Speaker 5: Uh. 614 00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:47,240 Speaker 4: There's been also, like everywhere he's gone, there's been a 615 00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:50,560 Speaker 4: dust up. There's been a fight either in games in practice. 616 00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:53,320 Speaker 7: Most outrageous claims. 617 00:30:53,760 --> 00:31:01,880 Speaker 8: I'm not a I'm not a chaines. 618 00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:02,720 Speaker 7: Sit it on air, but you know, man, you got 619 00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:03,800 Speaker 7: to pump those air brakes. 620 00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:07,720 Speaker 2: You've got that. Now I can't even I'm stunned. I 621 00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:10,160 Speaker 2: didn't think. I didn't think you're gonna go that route. 622 00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:14,080 Speaker 7: That was uh, but now y'all see why I was 623 00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:17,840 Speaker 7: fumbling over my put it back in the Okay, I 624 00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:20,880 Speaker 7: got it. Yeah, I did shoot it all right, so 625 00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:21,760 Speaker 7: y'all clear. 626 00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:26,640 Speaker 8: You know, it's interesting and and I've been on some 627 00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:29,320 Speaker 8: some teams that are in the Baltimore Ravens position, bad 628 00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:32,400 Speaker 8: football teams, and it's funny, like sometimes you get new 629 00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:35,400 Speaker 8: guys who come in and they take on this attitude 630 00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:37,080 Speaker 8: like they're gonna be the change, which, by the way, 631 00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:41,880 Speaker 8: I'm not ever going to to, you know, say that 632 00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:44,440 Speaker 8: that's not the right approach for a new guy who 633 00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:47,440 Speaker 8: joins the roster. But sometimes they talk, you know, they'll 634 00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:49,000 Speaker 8: talk a lot and like, hey. 635 00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:52,160 Speaker 2: Man, this is why y'all won it five. Y'all can't 636 00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:55,200 Speaker 2: do out here. You know, you'll get you asked like 637 00:31:55,800 --> 00:31:56,800 Speaker 2: there's some of that going on. 638 00:31:56,920 --> 00:32:01,160 Speaker 8: I'm saying that, well, I'm I'm not saying that he did. 639 00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:03,880 Speaker 2: I'm not saying he didn't, but forever, I'm just saying 640 00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:04,560 Speaker 2: for everyone. 641 00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:08,640 Speaker 8: I've seen that too, where there's like a core nucleus 642 00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:11,280 Speaker 8: of guys who kind of come together like, hey man, 643 00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:35,640 Speaker 8: we need to get this asshole off our team. 644 00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:30,040 Speaker 7: Or somebody on that core nucleus might put their hands 645 00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:31,760 Speaker 7: on him too. 646 00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:36,400 Speaker 8: And look, the best organizations, it never hits the media. 647 00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:39,600 Speaker 8: It'll never get out if there was an altercation, if 648 00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:43,160 Speaker 8: there's there's locker room practice something, it it'll never get out. 649 00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:46,120 Speaker 2: Remember, the Ravens is a very very good organization. 650 00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:46,520 Speaker 3: Was it? 651 00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:47,040 Speaker 5: Last year? 652 00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:51,960 Speaker 4: Deontay Johnson was with Baltimore for and he like wouldn't 653 00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:53,880 Speaker 4: go in the game, Like there was a story where 654 00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:55,719 Speaker 4: he wouldn't have gone it. He just refused to go 655 00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:57,840 Speaker 4: in a game because he wasn't happy that he wasn't used. 656 00:32:57,680 --> 00:32:58,320 Speaker 7: Up to that point. 657 00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:00,760 Speaker 5: And they were like, oh yeah, that'll that. And it 658 00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:01,800 Speaker 5: was just real quick. 659 00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:04,040 Speaker 7: Tuesdays. 660 00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:07,400 Speaker 4: You know, gotta gotta got a trash bag full of 661 00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:08,520 Speaker 4: his stuff and he's out the door. 662 00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:09,880 Speaker 2: That was probably dumb to, wasn't it. 663 00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:13,920 Speaker 7: Yeah, absolutely, yeah, dumb. Thank you all right, bad, No, 664 00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:16,440 Speaker 7: it's all good. I mean, sometimes you gotta let people 665 00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:18,920 Speaker 7: know know how it feels like for real, Like that's 666 00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:22,600 Speaker 7: a for real that's a for real sentiment there. Like, yeah, 667 00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:25,040 Speaker 7: sometimes you just gotta get him up at it there, 668 00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:28,720 Speaker 7: you know, because if you let it, if you let 669 00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:31,080 Speaker 7: it linger on, if you let it linger on, then 670 00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:32,760 Speaker 7: it becomes a real thing. 671 00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:37,960 Speaker 4: You have to let it linger Have to cranberries, Oh 672 00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:39,400 Speaker 4: you would like that. 673 00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:41,160 Speaker 8: Song just because he said linger you all of a 674 00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:43,240 Speaker 8: sudden immediately put in a cranberry something. 675 00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:43,680 Speaker 5: Man. 676 00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:46,240 Speaker 7: I didn't even feel like I took it down that lane. 677 00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:49,040 Speaker 8: But yeah, it was just not as Rick Astley take 678 00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:52,360 Speaker 8: from earlier. Okay, I mean he literally said one of 679 00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:53,800 Speaker 8: the bars from that song. 680 00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:56,479 Speaker 7: Didn't know that, just thought I was on my pimp s, 681 00:33:57,120 --> 00:33:57,760 Speaker 7: you know what I mean. 682 00:33:58,080 --> 00:34:00,000 Speaker 2: Meanwhile, in the back of your head at some point 683 00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:01,480 Speaker 2: that was playing, you. 684 00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:06,440 Speaker 7: Know maybe so it's I mean, it's a good song. 685 00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:08,880 Speaker 7: I listened to that this morning. 686 00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:11,440 Speaker 2: It kind of makes you happy when you hear it. 687 00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:14,000 Speaker 7: It does, no, it does. It makes you feel good. 688 00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:16,919 Speaker 7: It's like a summer song, like a spring break type 689 00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:20,960 Speaker 7: of deal, you know what I mean. Sit there waiting 690 00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:23,800 Speaker 7: listening to that song. Wow, they all go talk to Q, 691 00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:27,080 Speaker 7: but they can all get to it and they can 692 00:34:27,200 --> 00:34:27,760 Speaker 7: all stay. 693 00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:29,919 Speaker 4: I do want to click the link that you sent 694 00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:32,160 Speaker 4: over because I know it's going to be outraged. 695 00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:34,719 Speaker 5: Oh it's funny to me. 696 00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:36,760 Speaker 7: It's funny. 697 00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:40,200 Speaker 4: By the way, we are brought to you by Express Pros. 698 00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:44,400 Speaker 4: Business fluctuations make running your manufacturing business complex, but staffing 699 00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:47,200 Speaker 4: your business doesn't have to be. Let Express Employment Professionals 700 00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:50,239 Speaker 4: provide the workforce you need. 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That's right. 707 00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:13,080 Speaker 7: The food tastes better, the drinks are colder, and the 708 00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:18,680 Speaker 7: hot sauce, oh yeah, that better be the original Louisiana 709 00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:25,000 Speaker 7: hot sauce because nothing, and I mean absolutely nothing brings 710 00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:28,360 Speaker 7: the heat to your team like a good dub, and 711 00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:33,200 Speaker 7: nothing brings the flavor like that bold, hand crafted kick 712 00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:37,360 Speaker 7: straight out of Louisiana. That's right. It's a kick of 713 00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:42,640 Speaker 7: peppery peppers, vinegar and salt that our Louisiana flavor masters 714 00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:48,279 Speaker 7: have been blending perfectly for almost one hundred years. Eh 715 00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:51,000 Speaker 7: turns every good meal into a great meal, every great 716 00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:56,920 Speaker 7: meal into a party, and on your plate gets it cracking, wings, nachos, burgers, 717 00:35:57,160 --> 00:36:00,279 Speaker 7: doesn't matter. You hit it with that original Louisiana hot 718 00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:05,719 Speaker 7: sauce after a Sunday win and suddenly it's unbeatable, like 719 00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:10,799 Speaker 7: a touchdown dance on your tongue. And hey, if your 720 00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:13,360 Speaker 7: team didn't pull off the win this week, that's okay, 721 00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:17,160 Speaker 7: pour someone anyway, it helps ease the pain. That's what 722 00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:20,480 Speaker 7: we call a victory formation for your taste Buds, the 723 00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:27,000 Speaker 7: original Louisiana Hot Sauce, the Louisiana Hot Bye you. 724 00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:32,560 Speaker 3: Some be sure to catch live editions of Two Pros 725 00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:35,640 Speaker 3: and a Cup of Joe with Brady Quinn, LeVar Errington 726 00:36:35,680 --> 00:36:40,719 Speaker 3: and Jonas Knox weekdays at six am Eastern, three am Pacific. 727 00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:43,359 Speaker 4: Two Pros and a Cup of Joe, Fox Sports Radio, 728 00:36:43,640 --> 00:36:48,120 Speaker 4: LaVar Arrington, Yeah, Brady Quinn, Jonas knocks with you coming 729 00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:49,960 Speaker 4: off top of next hour a little over ten minutes 730 00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:52,720 Speaker 4: from now. We've got a Wednesday tradition here to uphold. 731 00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:55,160 Speaker 4: It's the one and only Petros Papadakis. He will be 732 00:36:55,200 --> 00:36:59,480 Speaker 4: yours here on FSR before we get to our midweek awards, though, 733 00:36:59,560 --> 00:37:04,120 Speaker 4: a remind to go to home depot and shop for Makita. 734 00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:07,560 Speaker 4: Get tools that perform at the highest level on every 735 00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:11,200 Speaker 4: job without compromise. When you shop Makda at the home depot, 736 00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:13,880 Speaker 4: when the job calls for the best call on Makda 737 00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:16,160 Speaker 4: built to be the best available at the home depot, 738 00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:18,759 Speaker 4: how pros get more done. 739 00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:24,160 Speaker 3: There are some good things that happen, and there's some bad, 740 00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:29,080 Speaker 3: and then there's some downright ugly things. It's time for good, 741 00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:31,720 Speaker 3: bad and lovely. 742 00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:34,200 Speaker 10: All right, Ian Roddy, Who's got what this week? Yeah, 743 00:37:34,239 --> 00:37:35,880 Speaker 10: that's right, the good, the bad, and the ugly. 744 00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:37,080 Speaker 5: Let's start with this. 745 00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:40,239 Speaker 10: Let's start with the good that this week belongs to 746 00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:41,720 Speaker 10: Sheriff LeVar Arrington. 747 00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:44,960 Speaker 7: What do we think, LeVar oh Man? What is good 748 00:37:45,120 --> 00:37:49,560 Speaker 7: this week? Well, I'll say this, I think I think 749 00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:53,800 Speaker 7: our college football has been good, even though it's been bad. 750 00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:56,000 Speaker 7: I mean, it could have been a great week for 751 00:37:56,040 --> 00:37:59,239 Speaker 7: me to do. Ugly obviously what's taking place with Penn State, 752 00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:03,320 Speaker 7: but all in all, just looking at the way games 753 00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:06,120 Speaker 7: have played out, you know, looking at the way USC 754 00:38:06,239 --> 00:38:09,839 Speaker 7: is playing. They just got a big win, seeing like 755 00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:13,640 Speaker 7: the parody and seeing some top top teams go down, 756 00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:17,319 Speaker 7: whiles some teams not so highly rated have played well 757 00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:21,280 Speaker 7: and gotten victories. I think it's been a super super 758 00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:25,719 Speaker 7: entertaining college football season so far. So I'll say that's 759 00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:26,480 Speaker 7: a good thing. 760 00:38:27,719 --> 00:38:28,080 Speaker 5: All right. 761 00:38:28,120 --> 00:38:30,480 Speaker 10: Next up the bad, Sheriff Jonas Knox, what do you 762 00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:31,560 Speaker 10: got this week for the bad? 763 00:38:31,600 --> 00:38:32,080 Speaker 7: In sports? 764 00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:33,920 Speaker 4: We got to go all the way to London for 765 00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:37,319 Speaker 4: the bad because whatever the NFL put on display for 766 00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:39,640 Speaker 4: those fans, and we talked about it on Monday like 767 00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:41,920 Speaker 4: it's you know, it's not about you know, the quality 768 00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:44,520 Speaker 4: of the game. It's about the atmosphere, what it's like, 769 00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:47,160 Speaker 4: the excitement. I don't know who was excited watching the 770 00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:52,080 Speaker 4: Broncos and the Jets. That game was awful, awful. The 771 00:38:52,120 --> 00:38:56,359 Speaker 4: Broncos defense is tremendous. They get after the quarterback better 772 00:38:56,400 --> 00:39:00,360 Speaker 4: than anybody in the NFL. But whatever anybody thought Aaron 773 00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:03,239 Speaker 4: Glenn was going to do differently for that organization, and 774 00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:06,560 Speaker 4: whatever anybody thought that Justin Fields could bring that team 775 00:39:06,600 --> 00:39:09,200 Speaker 4: that Aaron Rodgers couldn't. I have no idea what you 776 00:39:09,239 --> 00:39:13,360 Speaker 4: were thinking. That team stinks, That game sucked. That was 777 00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:14,320 Speaker 4: my bad for the week. 778 00:39:15,160 --> 00:39:17,360 Speaker 5: Field is still holding onto the football somewhere. 779 00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:23,000 Speaker 10: But let's end d Damney, and let's end it with 780 00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:24,839 Speaker 10: the ugly Sheriff Brady Quinn. 781 00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:26,480 Speaker 5: What you got for us? What was ugly this week 782 00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:26,920 Speaker 5: in sports? 783 00:39:28,080 --> 00:39:28,480 Speaker 2: All Right? 784 00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:32,840 Speaker 8: I'm not going to say that the Penn State firing 785 00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:37,520 Speaker 8: of James Franklin's ugly. What's ugly about it is how 786 00:39:37,600 --> 00:39:41,080 Speaker 8: people treat James Franklin his family. 787 00:39:41,920 --> 00:39:45,200 Speaker 2: You know, that's the ugly spart part of all this is. 788 00:39:46,200 --> 00:39:48,239 Speaker 8: And LeVar, I know you talked about this like Bill 789 00:39:48,280 --> 00:39:50,640 Speaker 8: O'Brien was there for a couple of years, but James 790 00:39:50,719 --> 00:39:54,800 Speaker 8: Franklin really came to Penn State after they received probably 791 00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:59,200 Speaker 8: the closest thing to a death penalty, and helped create stability, 792 00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:02,200 Speaker 8: help build foundation, helped. 793 00:40:02,080 --> 00:40:03,680 Speaker 2: Make Penn State kind of relevant again. 794 00:40:03,719 --> 00:40:06,520 Speaker 8: I mean, they're playing for the national championship, the playing 795 00:40:06,520 --> 00:40:09,200 Speaker 8: a semi final, and they were damn close last year, 796 00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:13,400 Speaker 8: and it's just it's crazy to me how fast things 797 00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:15,799 Speaker 8: can change. I was just talking to a buddy, a 798 00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:19,239 Speaker 8: neighbor whose wife went to Penn State, and we're like, 799 00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:22,799 Speaker 8: sixteen days, man, you're up a touchdown in overtime, you 800 00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:24,799 Speaker 8: win that, you're probably viewed as one of the top 801 00:40:24,840 --> 00:40:28,000 Speaker 8: two teams in college football, on a clear path towards 802 00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:31,040 Speaker 8: making the College Football Playoff and sixteen. 803 00:40:30,719 --> 00:40:32,759 Speaker 2: Days, you know, now eighteen days LT or whatever it is. 804 00:40:33,320 --> 00:40:35,319 Speaker 8: You know, you lose a couple of games and now 805 00:40:35,480 --> 00:40:38,640 Speaker 8: your coach is fired and who knows the direction of 806 00:40:38,680 --> 00:40:39,120 Speaker 8: the program. 807 00:40:39,160 --> 00:40:40,920 Speaker 2: But it goes back to the initial point. 808 00:40:41,719 --> 00:40:45,120 Speaker 8: Just stop with the with the you know, comments on 809 00:40:45,239 --> 00:40:48,319 Speaker 8: James Franklin and his family, like they don't deserve that, 810 00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:51,120 Speaker 8: No one deserves that. You don't need to be nasty 811 00:40:51,160 --> 00:40:54,239 Speaker 8: about it. James Franklin did the best job that he 812 00:40:54,239 --> 00:40:56,680 Speaker 8: could do while he was there, and no one wanted 813 00:40:56,719 --> 00:40:59,320 Speaker 8: them to win more than him, regardless of what you 814 00:40:59,360 --> 00:41:02,360 Speaker 8: want to say about the So I just hope people, 815 00:41:02,600 --> 00:41:06,000 Speaker 8: whether it's in person people on social media, can. 816 00:41:05,920 --> 00:41:09,040 Speaker 2: Stop the ugliness with that stuff. Man, I'm not deserving. 817 00:41:09,160 --> 00:41:11,359 Speaker 4: I was talking to LeVar about this on Monday when 818 00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:15,080 Speaker 4: we were coming in that there's a scene where after 819 00:41:15,120 --> 00:41:18,279 Speaker 4: the game on Saturday, he's walking off the field with his. 820 00:41:18,360 --> 00:41:22,880 Speaker 7: Daughter and she looks terrified. Oh, they be saying some 821 00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:26,880 Speaker 7: wild stuff to him. Bro maybe saying some wild stuff, 822 00:41:27,080 --> 00:41:30,120 Speaker 7: and he generally tells them not to walk with He 823 00:41:30,160 --> 00:41:32,600 Speaker 7: tells her not to walk with him, but she does it. 824 00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:35,880 Speaker 7: She stands in there with him. They'd be saying some 825 00:41:35,960 --> 00:41:36,879 Speaker 7: wild stuff though,