WEBVTT - School Boards: The New Fashy Frontline, Part 2

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<v Speaker 1>What second? My part of this episode on right wing

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<v Speaker 1>attempts to attack and dominate school board meetings in order

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<v Speaker 1>to further their ability to do violence on marginalized groups

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<v Speaker 1>and also erode democratic institutions from the ground. Uh. Stage title, Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that'll that'll click. Well Ah, I'm solutely glad. We don't

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<v Speaker 1>have to worry about clicking and titles. And that took

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<v Speaker 1>up a lot of my mind back in the day, Garrison,

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<v Speaker 1>back when, back when the internet was different. Now we

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<v Speaker 1>don't have to worry about that anymore. But we do

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<v Speaker 1>have to worry about our mobs of fascists attacking school

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<v Speaker 1>board meetings. It happens every week, keeps happening more often.

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<v Speaker 1>School boards are calling for assistance. That they seem pretty,

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<v Speaker 1>they seem pretty not thrilled. Yeah, they seem not psyched

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<v Speaker 1>about that. So we're we're we're. When we left off,

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<v Speaker 1>I was talking about some things I found on the

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<v Speaker 1>gram Telegram. Uh, Garrison, what's next. I'll go into my

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<v Speaker 1>preliminary research on Telegram and particularly response. Basically, I looked

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<v Speaker 1>through every single Telegram post and all of the main

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<v Speaker 1>fascist channels I lurk on that mentioned school boards from

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<v Speaker 1>like the past two weeks. Um, So like yeah, this

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<v Speaker 1>is like current current stuff on ongoing. Um. I got

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<v Speaker 1>to a lot of the channels I was already familiar with,

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<v Speaker 1>like you know, the Western Shapnist channel, which is uh

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<v Speaker 1>subs um, the Standard Students channel, which was a when

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<v Speaker 1>I was less familiar with, specifically dedicated to this school

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<v Speaker 1>board issue. Um. One of one of the posts I

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<v Speaker 1>we have on there is h says your enemy isn't

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<v Speaker 1>some far off ship whole country. Your enemy is just

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<v Speaker 1>down the street at your local school board meeting, teaching

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<v Speaker 1>your kids to hate their ancestors, you and themselves. So

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<v Speaker 1>like again, that is a very much white supremacist dog

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<v Speaker 1>whistle just right there, um talking about producing Hollywood movies

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<v Speaker 1>writing they're not whistle basically, it's basically just a whistle. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah. They then they, you know, the same post

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<v Speaker 1>talks about you know, masks and shuting down businesses and

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<v Speaker 1>the vaccines and stuff and saying the fight is here

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<v Speaker 1>and the fight is now. So just in terms of like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>they're really wanting to hype people up for doing this

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<v Speaker 1>thing at school boards. They're trying to really hammer down

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<v Speaker 1>the school board points. So like I found this. I

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<v Speaker 1>found this post. This is This is a post from

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<v Speaker 1>the Standford Students channel um and I saw this one

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<v Speaker 1>re shared in a lot of different channels. One of

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<v Speaker 1>the other first ones that I saw pop off was

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<v Speaker 1>from Ron watkins channel like Code monkey z. He is

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<v Speaker 1>one of the one of the architects or one of

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<v Speaker 1>the you know people who really pushed Q and on

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<v Speaker 1>stuff into He's the guy who ran like the physical

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<v Speaker 1>infrastructure of a chan and eight coon for years. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>He and he's trying to pivot into being like having

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<v Speaker 1>his just his face be like a kind of alternative

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<v Speaker 1>right wing figure right now. Uh, he's gonna be running

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<v Speaker 1>for office in Arizona, I believe. Anyway, he has a

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<v Speaker 1>very popular telegram channel, um and he he made he

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<v Speaker 1>made this post that had over a thousand, over a

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<v Speaker 1>thousand comments on it, which is a lot for telegram.

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<v Speaker 1>A thousand comments on telegram post, especially telegram post of

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<v Speaker 1>of code mackezs size. I't see how many subs does it?

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<v Speaker 1>So Ron, just for his context, Ron Watkins has four

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<v Speaker 1>hundred and thirty two thousand subscribers on his on his

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<v Speaker 1>Telegram channel. So yep. Anyway, Uh, CRT is being rebranded

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<v Speaker 1>as s e L a social emotional learning. If you

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<v Speaker 1>are attending school board meetings as you should be, do

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<v Speaker 1>what you can to make sure you stop both s

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<v Speaker 1>e L and CRT and keep them and make sure

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<v Speaker 1>that they are banned in your school districts. So again,

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<v Speaker 1>just direct calls to action for getting people to show

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<v Speaker 1>up to these school boards. And also, social emotional learning

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<v Speaker 1>is not CRT, and of course T is not even

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<v Speaker 1>taught in schools. I think everyone who listens to this

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<v Speaker 1>podcast knows that SRT, actually critical theory isn't taught in schools.

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<v Speaker 1>This isn't an actual thing. It's it is like a

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<v Speaker 1>legal theory. We'll get into more of how this gout,

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<v Speaker 1>like pushed towards the end. I think Chris has some

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<v Speaker 1>stuff prepared on that. Yeah we yeah, yeah, it's again

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<v Speaker 1>these none of these things are actually real. It's a

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<v Speaker 1>complex legal theory. What they're really mad about is their

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<v Speaker 1>people are teaching that racism is like an issue that's

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<v Speaker 1>built into a lot of American institutions and it's an

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<v Speaker 1>ongoing thing. It's not a thing of the past. That's

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<v Speaker 1>what they're actually mad about, and they just call that CRT.

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<v Speaker 1>Some some of the comments from the Ron Watkins post,

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<v Speaker 1>stuff like these snowflakes are so annoying. I'm about to

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<v Speaker 1>start cutting power to any school in my community that

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<v Speaker 1>teaches this. Um so yeah, more Again, that's just a direct,

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<v Speaker 1>direct threat of doing terrorism. Should I mean less of

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<v Speaker 1>a threat and more of a promise? Yeah? Do that

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<v Speaker 1>it be? No? Sure it doesn't. All right, Well I

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<v Speaker 1>don't understand things the same way you zoomers do. Please continue. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of a lot of posts being a shipped

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<v Speaker 1>around from channel to channel, including this full Nazi channels

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<v Speaker 1>were like trying to trying to of course, like a

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<v Speaker 1>lots of Nazis are actually you know, I thought it

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<v Speaker 1>was pretty funny that the that the school board union

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<v Speaker 1>put in a call to assistance to the federal government

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<v Speaker 1>to deal with this issue. They of course they thought

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<v Speaker 1>that was funny. But they're gonna use this to like

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<v Speaker 1>spread networks to be like, hey, the government wants to

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<v Speaker 1>stop you. They're calling you a terrorist. You like regular

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<v Speaker 1>folk are being called terrorists because you're showing up with

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<v Speaker 1>school boards, right, That's the kind of message that they're

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<v Speaker 1>going to shoot out. So they a lot of Nazi

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<v Speaker 1>channels crafted a lot of posts like that that got

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<v Speaker 1>shared around a lot. Yeah, in trying to basically all

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<v Speaker 1>time critical race theory and if you approached against critical

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<v Speaker 1>race theory, they're calling you a domestic terrorist. That that

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<v Speaker 1>type of thing. And this got this got shared in

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<v Speaker 1>the school boards channel and a whole bunch of whole

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<v Speaker 1>bunch of other stuff being being talking about how if you,

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<v Speaker 1>if you stand up, you're gonna be a domestic terrorist.

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<v Speaker 1>You have to be brave and do this. A few

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<v Speaker 1>days after the school board uh, not a few days,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess this. This this was in like in October

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<v Speaker 1>um the school Association retracted some of the some of

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<v Speaker 1>the words that they used in their letter because of

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<v Speaker 1>this BackFlash that was created. And this was also shared

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<v Speaker 1>in shared in uh lots of fascist channels. The main

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<v Speaker 1>one who was shared in that I saw was the

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<v Speaker 1>Honk Pilled channel UM, which is just another type of

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<v Speaker 1>peppe meme um uh, one of the other one of

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<v Speaker 1>the other big, big kind of groups active in this

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<v Speaker 1>in this whole sphere. And this this has been a

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<v Speaker 1>group going on for a while and we haven't talked

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<v Speaker 1>about on the pod, but we probably should do something eventually.

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<v Speaker 1>Is this group called White Rose so this is a

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<v Speaker 1>White Rose is a COVID conspiracy group that has been

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<v Speaker 1>very uh successful in creating on the ground organizers who

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<v Speaker 1>are regular people, and they do a lot of like

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<v Speaker 1>sticker bombs and lots of neighborhoods. If you have if

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<v Speaker 1>you ever seen anti like COVID or COVID conspiracy stickers

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<v Speaker 1>in your neighborhood, it was probably a White Rose sticker. UM.

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<v Speaker 1>These are all over the States and basically every university.

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<v Speaker 1>As a quick heads up, the original White Rose was

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<v Speaker 1>a student protest organization that existed in Nazi Germany UM

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<v Speaker 1>and protested illegally, and its organizers were executed by the Nazis.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think it was the mid forty I mean

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<v Speaker 1>it would be like like forty three, maybe maybe forty four. UM.

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<v Speaker 1>Sophie Shoal was the person most associated with them. So

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<v Speaker 1>they they're they're they've taken the names of these these heroes,

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<v Speaker 1>UM in order to it's just disgusting, it's very gross.

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<v Speaker 1>There's there's a decent amount of decent amount of researchers

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<v Speaker 1>in this field thinks that there's like actual bad people

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<v Speaker 1>behind White Rose. Of course, with like bad people because

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<v Speaker 1>they're spending COVID stuff, but like like wait, like like

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<v Speaker 1>more like bad actors use basically astroturfing this thing, but

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<v Speaker 1>White rosters its own piece later. But because they have

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<v Speaker 1>such a big following on telegram, they are of course

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<v Speaker 1>using using this to using the school board thing to

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<v Speaker 1>gain more support they have about subscribers to their specific

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<v Speaker 1>telegram channel. They shared a post a few weeks ago

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<v Speaker 1>saying thank you to all the brave parents going out

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<v Speaker 1>to their school boards and standing up for the children. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>And they try that, you know, get people to do

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<v Speaker 1>sticker bombs and stuff, but the fact that there's like

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<v Speaker 1>specifically calling out people in school boards is like an

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<v Speaker 1>extra step of like beyond just putting stickers up in

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<v Speaker 1>your neighborhood. Um. Another another another white right Rose post.

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<v Speaker 1>They shared a shared a video UM that was captioned

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<v Speaker 1>as concerned parent absolutely destroys school board with facts. The

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<v Speaker 1>school boards are the battlefield of our time. This is

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<v Speaker 1>how it's done, and just the increasing rhetoric around like

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<v Speaker 1>battle fields, this is where like the fight is at

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<v Speaker 1>all that kind of stuff. Um. There was another another uh,

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<v Speaker 1>the white White Chauvinist channel shared a video from Fox

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<v Speaker 1>News UM and they they the Western Chauvinist channel, which

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<v Speaker 1>is again it's one of the most shared ones in

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<v Speaker 1>this whole network. They captioned this saying, parents and virgin

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<v Speaker 1>here are trying to fight back against the school board

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<v Speaker 1>that is anti white. Um, every every school district in

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<v Speaker 1>America needs to have an anti mandate pro right parents

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<v Speaker 1>running for the school board. So that's just the It's

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<v Speaker 1>this type of stuff all over and this this this

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<v Speaker 1>post was got it has like an eleven eleven thousand,

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<v Speaker 1>eleven thousand views. Um, So these things are spreading to

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of a lot of these specific networks. And

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I I have so many of this kind

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<v Speaker 1>of stuff. I'm not going to go through every single

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<v Speaker 1>one in detail. There's ones that are way more like

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<v Speaker 1>openly anti Semitic, uh, you know, saying, you know the

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<v Speaker 1>Jews that run you know, ex school board, um are

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<v Speaker 1>trying to force vaccinations on every student over twelve. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>Other another Uh, there's this fake this is this this

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<v Speaker 1>fake Clint Eastwood channel on Telegram that's pretty popular. Someone

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<v Speaker 1>who's pretending to be Clint Eastwood that spread far right stuff. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>He had a post that was shared a lot that

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<v Speaker 1>started by saying starts taking over school boards, start taking

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<v Speaker 1>over city council, start to ing over city boards. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>start to start being pull watchers, start being poll workers,

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<v Speaker 1>start taking over sheriff's departments. It's not enough just to vote.

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<v Speaker 1>So this, this is the other thing that we're going

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<v Speaker 1>to see a lot more of, is rhetoric around voting.

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<v Speaker 1>Isn't enough. You need to start doing more things. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>there is one of it. Yeah, here, here's here's one.

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<v Speaker 1>This is gonna this is a referencing some of the

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<v Speaker 1>trans stuff. I'll discussing a bit, but I just want

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<v Speaker 1>to tie it in now. A post from the Western

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<v Speaker 1>Chauvinist Channel saying there is no political solution, which is

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<v Speaker 1>a direct Nazi, a direct Nazi lie. I mean that.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what I did an article early this year on

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<v Speaker 1>Riley Williams, the Nazi who stole Pelosi's laptop during the

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<v Speaker 1>Capitol riot, and then like the video that we were

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<v Speaker 1>able to identify her as a sig hiling Nazi, and

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<v Speaker 1>that's how she opened her quote, there is no political solution.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a very common catchphrase among like the the fast right. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so there's been a lot of stuff around harassing, like

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<v Speaker 1>specific school board members harassing specific teacher. Was there was

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<v Speaker 1>this teacher in uh, I think in California that was

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<v Speaker 1>trying to like introduced like like anti fascist type rhetoric

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<v Speaker 1>and talking about how fascism is a modern thing. They

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<v Speaker 1>got absolutely bashed um and like docs um, and they

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<v Speaker 1>got it I think fired because there was like hundreds

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<v Speaker 1>of parents organizing on on apps like telegram to harass

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<v Speaker 1>this one teacher at school board's like you know, they

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<v Speaker 1>took over massive school board meetings and just talked about

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<v Speaker 1>this one teacher endlessly. Um. And it was even It's

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<v Speaker 1>interesting because like all the parents were like, yeah, Mike,

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<v Speaker 1>my I got worried because my student actually really like

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<v Speaker 1>liked the teacher and said that they were doing like

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<v Speaker 1>giving really interesting points about like systemic issues. And the

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<v Speaker 1>parents were like and they brought their kids to the

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<v Speaker 1>school board meeting. There's the kids are just standing in

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<v Speaker 1>the back as their parents are ranting about this and

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<v Speaker 1>talking about how the kids actually, like I thought, they

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<v Speaker 1>were learning things about systemic issues. And then that got

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<v Speaker 1>people mad. So you know what else gets people mad? Uh?

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<v Speaker 1>This is advertisements. H And we're bad. We're gonna we're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna touch on the uh the specifics like all the

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<v Speaker 1>stuff we've been talking about. Most of the modern most

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<v Speaker 1>most of the current organizing is a lot of it's

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<v Speaker 1>around like mask mandates and vaccine mandates. Um, Like all

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<v Speaker 1>of this called like you know this the stool board channel.

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<v Speaker 1>All of this kind of stuff is usually around vaccine,

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<v Speaker 1>vaccines and mask stuff. Uh, of course there's critic Royce

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<v Speaker 1>theory was the way more popular thing a few months ago.

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<v Speaker 1>Right now is the vaccine thing. The other kind of

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<v Speaker 1>like ever present thing is being upset that trans kids

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<v Speaker 1>exist and being very fearful that that there are trans

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<v Speaker 1>kids around your kids. Uh. This is a thing that's been,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, a thing for years that people have been

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<v Speaker 1>fighting against. And since the school board things becoming more popular,

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<v Speaker 1>people are are starting to, uh bring vasically do these

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<v Speaker 1>kind of flash mobs specifically around trans issues. Um. One

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<v Speaker 1>of like the more like astro turf type things was

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<v Speaker 1>people getting mad that there were like two specific books

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<v Speaker 1>available in certain high school and some middle school libraries.

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<v Speaker 1>Um that one of it was like a like one

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<v Speaker 1>of it was the memoir that Robert mentioned. The other

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<v Speaker 1>one was like a graphic novel memorial about someone realizing

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<v Speaker 1>their gender queer. So these are books that are not

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<v Speaker 1>in curriculums. These are just books that are available at

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<v Speaker 1>the library. Um. And basically there was people who just

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<v Speaker 1>who found these out and got turned it into like

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<v Speaker 1>like a meme on telegram essentially, like people like sharing

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<v Speaker 1>information about this. Then you like look it up, see

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<v Speaker 1>if it's in your library. So then we have all

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<v Speaker 1>of these like coordinated attacks on school boards by these

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<v Speaker 1>mobs of people all about these same two books. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>And the goals to not only just get the books

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<v Speaker 1>like banned, but they're also trying to like fire or

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<v Speaker 1>arrest the teachers and school board members for allowing these

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<v Speaker 1>books to happen. There has been school boy members who

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<v Speaker 1>have like stepped down because of just how much harassment

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<v Speaker 1>is about these things. Quote from the Western Chavinist channel,

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<v Speaker 1>Jesus Christ straight up pedophile books in our children's schools.

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<v Speaker 1>Once again, the Jewish school board member gets mad and

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<v Speaker 1>try to shut them down. How can you not connect

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<v Speaker 1>the dots here? There's no political solution. Voting will not

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<v Speaker 1>remove these people. Um. There was the mayor of Houston,

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<v Speaker 1>uh So in the mayor of Houston, Ohio heard about

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<v Speaker 1>this and he went to a school board meeting and

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<v Speaker 1>instructed all of them, all of the board members to

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<v Speaker 1>resign um quoting the quoting the Proud Boy right wing

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<v Speaker 1>organizing channel Western CHAVINIZTA. This comes after some of the

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<v Speaker 1>degenerate parasites in the system called educators, instructed kids to

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<v Speaker 1>describe a sex scene that they wouldn't show their mom.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course this didn't happen. This is this is they

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<v Speaker 1>these these things are not are not. These books are

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<v Speaker 1>not used in any kind of curriculum anyway. So even

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<v Speaker 1>even if they were that that we were not even

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<v Speaker 1>we're not even in that reality. Um. So the mayor

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<v Speaker 1>of this town basically got these instructed these instructed all

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<v Speaker 1>of these people to resign um. Earlier, I think in

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<v Speaker 1>mark No. In August of this year, pride flags were

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<v Speaker 1>banned at a at a school school district inside south

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<v Speaker 1>west Oregon. Um, I think around I think around Newburgh.

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<v Speaker 1>The Newberg school district banned but banned pride flags. So

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<v Speaker 1>all this kind of stuff and and of course that

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<v Speaker 1>is in a lot of states. But the again, the

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<v Speaker 1>fact that it's in like Oregon, a blue state, is

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<v Speaker 1>people got made like you know, there's like you know,

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<v Speaker 1>NBC articles about it. Because it's it's Oregon. It's not

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's it's not it's it's not a red state.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's all big, it's all Portland, it's all Antifa,

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<v Speaker 1>right yeah. Yeah, so again the stuff is not not

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<v Speaker 1>not like contained to one thing. And like yeah, if

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<v Speaker 1>you google the stuff around these books, if you google

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<v Speaker 1>like gender queer book, uh school boards, you'll find this

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<v Speaker 1>in so many school districts. You'll see just mobs of

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<v Speaker 1>people lined up yelling and screaming um and like like

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<v Speaker 1>printing out giant, like giant cardboard prints of of this

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<v Speaker 1>comic book showing like like with like you know, there's

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<v Speaker 1>like a dick on it, Like there's like a drawn

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<v Speaker 1>a drawn dick, because that's what human bodies look like.

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<v Speaker 1>Like you can look at like a lot of like yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>they're like what are you know, banned the statue of

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<v Speaker 1>David because he has this dick out too, like like

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<v Speaker 1>come on. And also these are the same people who

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<v Speaker 1>talk about like oh they're you know, banning books, burning books,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, right, there was that there was that tweet

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<v Speaker 1>from like James Woods about like these are the books

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<v Speaker 1>that people want banned. That means they're the most important ones.

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<v Speaker 1>But these people love. These people love like burning books.

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<v Speaker 1>These people love banning books. They love cancel culture. That

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<v Speaker 1>the cultures that I was that I was in as

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<v Speaker 1>a kid, they would have like massive like book and

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<v Speaker 1>like c D and DVD burnings for like unlike unholy

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<v Speaker 1>and sinful media that you would like bring in and

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<v Speaker 1>like throw like your sinful music onto this giant fire. Like.

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<v Speaker 1>These people love love burning book because they love they

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<v Speaker 1>love banning stuff. They love cancel culture. Um, but they

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<v Speaker 1>just like that. Yeah, So that was that was most

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<v Speaker 1>of my stuff around the kind of the ongoing queer

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<v Speaker 1>and trans stuff. Of course, you know, this ties into

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<v Speaker 1>the bathroom stuff as well, with the people showing up

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<v Speaker 1>to school board meetings to scream about you know, kids

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<v Speaker 1>going ship in the bathroom that they want to and

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<v Speaker 1>feel comfortable in. Um. You know. And again like it

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't it's not gonna stop with trans people either, right

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<v Speaker 1>as soon as they ban trans people, the next thing

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<v Speaker 1>is going to be oh, gay students, right it is

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<v Speaker 1>it never it's never stops, it always keeps going. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's just an ever present problem that it's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>require a lot more, a lot more dealing with and

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<v Speaker 1>again with all of these flash mobs, like no one,

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<v Speaker 1>no one's gonna stop them because they're like the people

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<v Speaker 1>in power, They're the people that have all of the privilege.

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<v Speaker 1>There's no really effective counter organizing for these school board

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<v Speaker 1>meetings right now. Um, the cops aren't gonna do ship.

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<v Speaker 1>Security guards are't gonna do ship. Uh, and regular libs

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<v Speaker 1>and regular regular people are going to do shit either.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's hard to figure out how to actually combat

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<v Speaker 1>this because there's a lot of times that the people

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<v Speaker 1>in school boards were like, no, we don't want this

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<v Speaker 1>to turn into a giant like fistfights, Like don't don't

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<v Speaker 1>come in mass to start fistfighting them. But there needs

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<v Speaker 1>to be something to combat, whether that be you know,

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<v Speaker 1>running running for school boards, just showing up outside school boards,

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<v Speaker 1>having just more people there in, having more presence there

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<v Speaker 1>so that it's not as overwhelmed by like a mob

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<v Speaker 1>of two hundred anti mask people showing up. Right there

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<v Speaker 1>needs to be some type of thing happening because no

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<v Speaker 1>one else needs to be countered and yeah, you know what,

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<v Speaker 1>they might need to get the ship kicked out of them.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry, but like I don't like I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>that would actually help in this instance, probably, but like

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<v Speaker 1>there needs to be fucking something like they they are.

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<v Speaker 1>The level of boldness that they have is evidence that

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<v Speaker 1>they feel they are confident that there is no counter

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<v Speaker 1>to what there is going to be done. And perhaps

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<v Speaker 1>if they were being met by a wall of people

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<v Speaker 1>in the community who were willing, if they tried to

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<v Speaker 1>force their way into fucking throw down, you know, to say,

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<v Speaker 1>you're not entering this building without a goddamn mask, You're

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<v Speaker 1>not shutting down this meeting. Um, I don't know, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>that would do something. I don't actually know what would

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<v Speaker 1>do something. If it was people just as regular people,

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<v Speaker 1>I think that would be. Yeah, it's certainly not going

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<v Speaker 1>to help if it's antifa, Um, for the love of God,

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<v Speaker 1>don't show up in fucking black block at a school

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<v Speaker 1>board meeting. Um, Like what would work is a bunch

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<v Speaker 1>of other middle aged parents showing up and being willing

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<v Speaker 1>to confront these people if and like everything that is

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<v Speaker 1>worth mentioning is that a lot of the people at

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<v Speaker 1>these protests like are not parents at all. Like they're

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<v Speaker 1>not they're not they're not even in the same school district.

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<v Speaker 1>They're just sort of like this this is just how

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<v Speaker 1>this is just how the sort of right wing outrage

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<v Speaker 1>machine has worked, and this is where they're drawing people. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean and again like it's it's a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>the people in there, there's gonna be big do dudes

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<v Speaker 1>who want to fight, but a lot of the people

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<v Speaker 1>like screaming are are like you know, middle aged women.

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<v Speaker 1>The people who are like really like leading the charge

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<v Speaker 1>on this because they're able to use their privilege because

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<v Speaker 1>like no one's gonna stop them, right, So that that's

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<v Speaker 1>like when they're leading the charge of two people who

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<v Speaker 1>are gonna like scream and harass and chase out the

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<v Speaker 1>black security guards, chase out, chase out the all of this,

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<v Speaker 1>all the school remembers no one's they're they're very effective

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<v Speaker 1>at using their privilege to gain political ground by just

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<v Speaker 1>like doing stuff on the ground. It's like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like this is like the January six thing. It's

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<v Speaker 1>like the January six thing. This is the new future

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<v Speaker 1>of political action is just showing up in mass two

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<v Speaker 1>places where no one's gonna stop you because you're like

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<v Speaker 1>you're the you know, the good, relatable you know everyday

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah you're anyway, That's that's the stuff I had, will

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<v Speaker 1>probably have an ad break and then talk about maybe

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<v Speaker 1>some of how this stuff started. Speaking of using your privilege,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, what is the greatest privilege being able to

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<v Speaker 1>purchase the products that Yeah, that's exactly right. There's no

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<v Speaker 1>privilege higher than being able to engage with these consumables.

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<v Speaker 1>And we're back, all right, Chris, you want to close

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<v Speaker 1>this out. Yeah, So the last thing I want to

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<v Speaker 1>talk about that is interesting about this whole thing is,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, we we've we've mostly been focusing on the

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<v Speaker 1>very furthest right elements of this, but a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>the school board stuff is tied to I mean just

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<v Speaker 1>straight a Republican party operatives and people who work in

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<v Speaker 1>this sort of you know, I mean there's there's literally

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<v Speaker 1>bunch of people who work for the Republican parties we'll

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<v Speaker 1>get into. And then there's also this sort of network

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<v Speaker 1>of of Republican think tanks, republicans sort of yeah, dark

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<v Speaker 1>money dumps, that's a lot of a lot of AstroTurf

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<v Speaker 1>groups and that kind of stuff. Yeah, And and so

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<v Speaker 1>I want to talk about a few of these people

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<v Speaker 1>because I think they're interesting. Um, I think we can

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<v Speaker 1>start with Nicole Nelly who's an interesting person. She's so

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<v Speaker 1>she she most recently founded Parents Defending Education. Who are they?

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<v Speaker 1>They're one of the big groups to sort of like

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<v Speaker 1>spreads this this sort of attack on school board stuff

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<v Speaker 1>over the country. They have chapters, they organize people, and

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<v Speaker 1>they also, you know, they do this thing where they

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<v Speaker 1>collect incident reports from from school districts that they you know,

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<v Speaker 1>just distribute to all these people and they put it online.

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<v Speaker 1>They have all of these they they they have a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of stuff they do. They do a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>anti mask mandate stuff. So they have these like template letters,

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<v Speaker 1>like template like fakely performing letter things that you can

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<v Speaker 1>send to schools that if you don't want to wear

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<v Speaker 1>a masks. That's the staple of this type of organizing. Now. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and and the interesting thing about Nicolenelly is that so

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<v Speaker 1>this is not like her first organ like three years

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<v Speaker 1>eighteen back in the Halcyon Days of of I you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I I'm not quit going to say it was before

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<v Speaker 1>the mask fully came off, but it was well the

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<v Speaker 1>mask was like a little bit more on. She she

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<v Speaker 1>previously founded a speech first. Yeah you might remember. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>speech was the big talking point. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>And so she ran that for a while. Now she's

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<v Speaker 1>you know, organizing with the holy people who just wants

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<v Speaker 1>to Yeah, they just move on, they move on to

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<v Speaker 1>the new things. It was, it was free speech, it

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<v Speaker 1>was christ theory. Right now it's anti mask stuff. Next

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<v Speaker 1>up is gonna be trans stuff going real hard. Just

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<v Speaker 1>today we had the fucking person who BBC platforms, the

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<v Speaker 1>fucking lincum. Yeah, Lily K, the rapist Lily K manifesto

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<v Speaker 1>where she details which specific trans women she wants to

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<v Speaker 1>personally kill. Yeah, I used to know Lily Um. Oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>yeah yeah, uh real dark turned Um, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess it's not super surprising. She was definitely interviewed

0:23:57.520 --> 0:24:01.320
<v Speaker 1>her for a documentary and it was a bit off putting. Uh,

0:24:01.480 --> 0:24:03.760
<v Speaker 1>didn't realize this was going on. I mean, yeah, there's

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<v Speaker 1>there's a lot of a lot a lot of reports

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<v Speaker 1>of people in like the sex book industry of talking

0:24:08.600 --> 0:24:13.200
<v Speaker 1>about her, like raping people in bathrooms, which again it's like, yeah,

0:24:13.200 --> 0:24:15.840
<v Speaker 1>the people it's always screaming about, Oh no trans woman

0:24:15.920 --> 0:24:17.880
<v Speaker 1>or in bathrooms. Yeah, the people. The person screaming about

0:24:17.880 --> 0:24:21.120
<v Speaker 1>this is an actual rapist. Like and like when when

0:24:21.280 --> 0:24:24.199
<v Speaker 1>we say rapist here, like she she she raped so

0:24:24.200 --> 0:24:27.760
<v Speaker 1>many people that, like on Twitter, like I was scrolling

0:24:27.760 --> 0:24:30.080
<v Speaker 1>through my feet and I saw multiple people who were like, oh,

0:24:30.119 --> 0:24:33.120
<v Speaker 1>I know this person she assaulted me. Yeah, it's really bad.

0:24:33.200 --> 0:24:35.320
<v Speaker 1>The people who the turfs are like pushing. Yeah, this

0:24:35.359 --> 0:24:38.320
<v Speaker 1>is the BBC was platform. You're so like, yeah, like

0:24:38.600 --> 0:24:40.800
<v Speaker 1>trans stuff is as soon as as soon as the

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<v Speaker 1>anti mask anti vax stuff like dies down in the

0:24:44.240 --> 0:24:48.080
<v Speaker 1>next five months or whatever. Uh, I foresee a massive

0:24:48.080 --> 0:24:52.400
<v Speaker 1>pivot towards specifically anti anti trans antiqueer antique stuff because

0:24:52.440 --> 0:24:55.600
<v Speaker 1>that's gonna be the new thing. Yep. And and and

0:24:55.880 --> 0:24:58.560
<v Speaker 1>I think it's it's worth bearing in mind that this stuff, yeah,

0:24:58.760 --> 0:25:01.359
<v Speaker 1>you know with with the cold NAILI epically. So she

0:25:01.359 --> 0:25:03.960
<v Speaker 1>she worked she like worked at the Cato Institute, which

0:25:04.040 --> 0:25:07.680
<v Speaker 1>is like Murray Rothbart and Charles Cokes. Now it's it's yeah,

0:25:07.720 --> 0:25:10.040
<v Speaker 1>it's it's it's basic. It's basically this is a slight

0:25:10.080 --> 0:25:12.280
<v Speaker 1>over supplication, but it's basically one of the Cokes sort

0:25:12.280 --> 0:25:15.600
<v Speaker 1>of like money laundering like money operation things. She also

0:25:15.640 --> 0:25:19.840
<v Speaker 1>worked at Freedom Works, who yeah, yeah, this is great.

0:25:19.880 --> 0:25:21.520
<v Speaker 1>So um, this is this is one of the fun

0:25:21.600 --> 0:25:24.320
<v Speaker 1>parts of this, which is that so Freedom Works is

0:25:24.359 --> 0:25:27.200
<v Speaker 1>another one of the Coke's sort of dark money laundering

0:25:27.240 --> 0:25:30.719
<v Speaker 1>machine things and Freedom Works are basically the people who

0:25:30.720 --> 0:25:33.040
<v Speaker 1>created the Tea Party, Like there are people who turned

0:25:33.040 --> 0:25:35.920
<v Speaker 1>the Tea Party from like a bunch of weird guys,

0:25:35.920 --> 0:25:40.600
<v Speaker 1>like like six weirdos into like, you know, the basically

0:25:40.600 --> 0:25:44.400
<v Speaker 1>the the the the entirety of the pre Trumps conservative

0:25:44.400 --> 0:25:46.760
<v Speaker 1>political machine who like built Republican Party after it was

0:25:46.800 --> 0:25:51.159
<v Speaker 1>like completely discredited um in into two thousand's. And this

0:25:51.240 --> 0:25:53.280
<v Speaker 1>is true of a lot of the people who are

0:25:53.400 --> 0:25:56.880
<v Speaker 1>in charge of these big organs have connections like this,

0:25:57.080 --> 0:25:59.960
<v Speaker 1>um the person you found in No Left Turn, which

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<v Speaker 1>is No Off Turn, No One for an education. They're

0:26:04.000 --> 0:26:05.359
<v Speaker 1>they're they're They're not one of these big sort of

0:26:05.359 --> 0:26:07.520
<v Speaker 1>anti school bird things. I mean they they are the people.

0:26:07.640 --> 0:26:09.120
<v Speaker 1>They're one of people who like they have a list

0:26:09.200 --> 0:26:12.400
<v Speaker 1>of books on their website that they want banned. Wow, yeah,

0:26:12.440 --> 0:26:16.000
<v Speaker 1>it's great cool And their founder rights for the heritage

0:26:16.000 --> 0:26:19.439
<v Speaker 1>foundations like magazine, So they're there. There's there's all of

0:26:19.480 --> 0:26:22.440
<v Speaker 1>this stuff. And I think maybe the most implematic one

0:26:22.480 --> 0:26:26.639
<v Speaker 1>is this guy is Mark Ruffo who Rufo. Yeah, so

0:26:26.640 --> 0:26:28.920
<v Speaker 1>so he's he's the guy who just created the whole

0:26:28.920 --> 0:26:31.880
<v Speaker 1>critical race theory thing out of nothing. He like threw

0:26:31.920 --> 0:26:35.840
<v Speaker 1>together a bunch of like in just like these incredibly

0:26:35.880 --> 0:26:39.480
<v Speaker 1>tenuous connections. Like there's a bunch of sort of old

0:26:41.680 --> 0:26:44.600
<v Speaker 1>cultural Marxism conspiracy stuff in there. Yeah, it's a lot

0:26:44.680 --> 0:26:47.800
<v Speaker 1>of like Frankfurt's school type ship. Yeah. Yeah. And and

0:26:48.000 --> 0:26:49.879
<v Speaker 1>but but what I think is interesting about him, it's

0:26:49.960 --> 0:26:54.680
<v Speaker 1>less his ideas, which are just pseudo intellectual. Yeah, he doesn't.

0:26:54.720 --> 0:26:56.919
<v Speaker 1>He's not actually super smart in what he says. That

0:26:56.920 --> 0:26:58.879
<v Speaker 1>there's a lot of videos of him talking to actual

0:26:58.880 --> 0:27:02.560
<v Speaker 1>philosophers getting led about what rice theory is. Like, he's

0:27:02.560 --> 0:27:05.160
<v Speaker 1>actually not that intelligent in this, in this side of things.

0:27:05.560 --> 0:27:07.280
<v Speaker 1>But but you know that the thing is that there's

0:27:07.320 --> 0:27:09.679
<v Speaker 1>nothing more dangerous than an idiot with a trick up

0:27:09.720 --> 0:27:12.840
<v Speaker 1>his sleeve exactly. And you know, and then the trick

0:27:12.920 --> 0:27:15.280
<v Speaker 1>basically is Fox News. And you know, the reason the

0:27:15.280 --> 0:27:17.879
<v Speaker 1>reason this whole thing exists is that this was you know,

0:27:18.119 --> 0:27:21.840
<v Speaker 1>Mark Ruffo, He's very very explicit about this, that this

0:27:21.840 --> 0:27:24.600
<v Speaker 1>this this was his solution to the George Floyd uprising

0:27:25.720 --> 0:27:26.920
<v Speaker 1>was that oh, we we need we need to we

0:27:26.960 --> 0:27:28.960
<v Speaker 1>need to find this thing to stop the medicinum of

0:27:28.960 --> 0:27:31.080
<v Speaker 1>this uprising. And this is this is who Tucker Carlson

0:27:31.119 --> 0:27:33.199
<v Speaker 1>brings on and starts bring on and this blows up,

0:27:33.240 --> 0:27:36.400
<v Speaker 1>and he immediately gets hired by the Manhattan Institute, which

0:27:36.400 --> 0:27:38.520
<v Speaker 1>is a very not that old but they're from the eighties,

0:27:38.560 --> 0:27:42.080
<v Speaker 1>but a very an old, extremely powerful conservative thing tank

0:27:42.119 --> 0:27:44.960
<v Speaker 1>that I don't think. I think it's less known than

0:27:45.119 --> 0:27:47.360
<v Speaker 1>things like the Heritage Foundation or the kid who wants

0:27:47.400 --> 0:27:50.320
<v Speaker 1>to Yeah, I would say so, yeah, but he gets

0:27:50.320 --> 0:27:53.400
<v Speaker 1>they hired him like immediately because you know, the sort

0:27:53.400 --> 0:27:56.040
<v Speaker 1>of mainline of the Republican Party very quickly is like

0:27:56.280 --> 0:27:57.960
<v Speaker 1>this is the thing that we can use as like

0:27:58.000 --> 0:28:00.960
<v Speaker 1>a hammer, right, And so the mentatt the Institute publishes

0:28:01.040 --> 0:28:05.160
<v Speaker 1>this group of work for them. Now I can't I'm

0:28:05.200 --> 0:28:07.000
<v Speaker 1>not actually sure if you I don't know if you

0:28:07.080 --> 0:28:09.600
<v Speaker 1>specifically wrote this or he was just involved in it.

0:28:10.040 --> 0:28:12.119
<v Speaker 1>I think it's it's the bye line is just the

0:28:12.119 --> 0:28:15.840
<v Speaker 1>Manhattan Institute. But they have this incredibly detailed tool kit

0:28:16.000 --> 0:28:19.200
<v Speaker 1>explaining how you know, both both explaining what the sort

0:28:19.200 --> 0:28:23.159
<v Speaker 1>of right wing like line on critical race theory is.

0:28:23.280 --> 0:28:25.040
<v Speaker 1>They have like a bunch of explainers, have like list

0:28:25.080 --> 0:28:28.880
<v Speaker 1>of terms. Have you ever seen Yeah, yeah, it's actually yeah,

0:28:29.000 --> 0:28:30.520
<v Speaker 1>if you've ever seen like list of terms of people

0:28:30.520 --> 0:28:32.760
<v Speaker 1>want banded, Like it's all just pulled from this document, right,

0:28:32.760 --> 0:28:35.840
<v Speaker 1>so this add stuff. Um no, But but the interting

0:28:35.840 --> 0:28:37.240
<v Speaker 1>part of about this is the other thing is this

0:28:37.320 --> 0:28:39.640
<v Speaker 1>this is an organizing manual, right, It's it's as specific

0:28:39.720 --> 0:28:41.320
<v Speaker 1>thing that tells you how to go and how to

0:28:41.320 --> 0:28:43.959
<v Speaker 1>find other people, like other other people. You know, if

0:28:43.960 --> 0:28:46.680
<v Speaker 1>if you're like an incensed right wing like freaking one

0:28:46.720 --> 0:28:48.760
<v Speaker 1>of these school districts, it's like, okay, well here's here's

0:28:48.760 --> 0:28:51.360
<v Speaker 1>how you like talk to other people in your districts.

0:28:51.360 --> 0:28:54.360
<v Speaker 1>Here's here's a list of options of like things you

0:28:54.400 --> 0:28:57.520
<v Speaker 1>can do going public. And then there's a very interesting

0:28:57.600 --> 0:29:01.040
<v Speaker 1>thing part of this that that I think is really

0:29:01.080 --> 0:29:03.840
<v Speaker 1>disturbing and outlines like really what's going on here, which

0:29:03.880 --> 0:29:06.800
<v Speaker 1>is there's this whole like freak out thing about this

0:29:06.800 --> 0:29:09.640
<v Speaker 1>thing called minority rule, where like, oh, the left has

0:29:09.720 --> 0:29:12.400
<v Speaker 1>this like they have this like militant minority that that

0:29:12.400 --> 0:29:16.320
<v Speaker 1>will compel the majority to follow them by because they

0:29:16.400 --> 0:29:18.080
<v Speaker 1>keep on showing up and they keep on doing things.

0:29:18.120 --> 0:29:21.840
<v Speaker 1>And if they if this minority like it keeps keep

0:29:22.000 --> 0:29:25.120
<v Speaker 1>keeps you know, being more in transient than everyone else,

0:29:25.200 --> 0:29:29.040
<v Speaker 1>then they will inevitably win. And this the three quarters

0:29:29.040 --> 0:29:31.520
<v Speaker 1>of this section is this like weird fearmongering thing about it.

0:29:31.640 --> 0:29:33.840
<v Speaker 1>But then the last part of it is a bunch

0:29:33.960 --> 0:29:35.200
<v Speaker 1>is the thing that's saying, oh, we need to do

0:29:35.240 --> 0:29:37.240
<v Speaker 1>this ourselves, right, this is how we win. We win

0:29:37.320 --> 0:29:39.120
<v Speaker 1>by being more in transient. We will by showing up

0:29:39.160 --> 0:29:41.200
<v Speaker 1>more often of course. Yeah, and you know, and this

0:29:41.240 --> 0:29:42.600
<v Speaker 1>is this is the other thing is this is from

0:29:42.640 --> 0:29:47.920
<v Speaker 1>like last year. I think this is like this summer.

0:29:48.040 --> 0:29:50.200
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, okay, that's sorry. This is this is this

0:29:50.200 --> 0:29:51.880
<v Speaker 1>is really this year. But it's interesting because it's like

0:29:52.840 --> 0:29:55.320
<v Speaker 1>this is the sort of you know, this, this is

0:29:55.400 --> 0:29:59.120
<v Speaker 1>this is the Republican Party essentially, I mean, the institutes

0:29:59.240 --> 0:30:01.160
<v Speaker 1>very very main stre Republican Party. This yeah, this is

0:30:01.200 --> 0:30:03.440
<v Speaker 1>this is how they do effective in person organizing. We we

0:30:03.360 --> 0:30:06.640
<v Speaker 1>we talked about this a bit in our episodes um

0:30:06.680 --> 0:30:09.320
<v Speaker 1>about the like in the aftermath of the abortion ruling

0:30:09.360 --> 0:30:11.720
<v Speaker 1>in Texas and how and how like the religious right

0:30:11.760 --> 0:30:14.840
<v Speaker 1>ring organizing has worked in local districts. Yeah. This this

0:30:14.880 --> 0:30:16.400
<v Speaker 1>is how they're able to get things done, which is

0:30:16.400 --> 0:30:18.360
<v Speaker 1>why there's been so many school by members who either

0:30:18.400 --> 0:30:20.800
<v Speaker 1>got fired, who have had to step down, who have

0:30:20.880 --> 0:30:23.760
<v Speaker 1>been harassed off the job and are now there's people

0:30:23.800 --> 0:30:25.880
<v Speaker 1>you know, a lot of a lot of like people

0:30:25.920 --> 0:30:29.320
<v Speaker 1>I would describe as people holding very extreme views are

0:30:29.320 --> 0:30:32.760
<v Speaker 1>now running and taking these spots. Um because if you

0:30:32.800 --> 0:30:34.560
<v Speaker 1>can do if you can do this type of like

0:30:34.600 --> 0:30:37.240
<v Speaker 1>again it's not grassroots, but it's it's it is it

0:30:37.360 --> 0:30:39.720
<v Speaker 1>is like asturp so like it appears grassroots. But if

0:30:39.720 --> 0:30:42.080
<v Speaker 1>you can do this type of like faux grassroots organizing,

0:30:42.280 --> 0:30:44.360
<v Speaker 1>you can gain a lot of power over specific areas

0:30:44.480 --> 0:30:47.320
<v Speaker 1>and make a lot of people's lives a lot more miserable.

0:30:47.400 --> 0:30:49.200
<v Speaker 1>And that's that's that's what the goal is, right, The

0:30:49.200 --> 0:30:51.680
<v Speaker 1>goal is to make the trans kids lives miserable. The

0:30:51.680 --> 0:30:54.200
<v Speaker 1>goals they get people to not wear masks and dive

0:30:54.320 --> 0:30:58.400
<v Speaker 1>COVID like that, those are the results of these actions. Well,

0:30:58.440 --> 0:31:01.360
<v Speaker 1>I think I think they're they're They're an interesting interplay

0:31:01.480 --> 0:31:04.520
<v Speaker 1>here though, because I think because so freedom works, like

0:31:04.520 --> 0:31:06.560
<v Speaker 1>like even even a lot of the specific protests that

0:31:06.600 --> 0:31:09.800
<v Speaker 1>are happening, and this is especially true of the very earlier,

0:31:10.000 --> 0:31:12.480
<v Speaker 1>earliest ones. I thinks like when when like the very

0:31:12.600 --> 0:31:15.040
<v Speaker 1>first school board protests that were happening, Yeah, like like

0:31:15.080 --> 0:31:17.959
<v Speaker 1>a lot of these sumiler to follow is when they

0:31:17.920 --> 0:31:20.600
<v Speaker 1>started start up. Yeah, and and those a lot of

0:31:20.640 --> 0:31:23.280
<v Speaker 1>those were directly organized by by people who work for

0:31:23.320 --> 0:31:26.680
<v Speaker 1>Freedom Works. And and this is this is what a

0:31:26.720 --> 0:31:28.760
<v Speaker 1>lot of the RT ones yeah yeah, yeah, they see

0:31:28.760 --> 0:31:31.400
<v Speaker 1>the crt ones or for every specifically freedom works. And

0:31:31.400 --> 0:31:32.800
<v Speaker 1>this is what I think is interesting about this is

0:31:32.840 --> 0:31:35.200
<v Speaker 1>that you know, okay, freedom Works. It's like, okay, so

0:31:35.240 --> 0:31:36.920
<v Speaker 1>what does Freedom Works out of this? Freedom Works wants

0:31:36.920 --> 0:31:39.520
<v Speaker 1>the T party again, right because you know that this

0:31:39.560 --> 0:31:41.360
<v Speaker 1>is this is what Freedom Works does. Right there. They're

0:31:41.400 --> 0:31:43.360
<v Speaker 1>they're they're basically the group that comes in when when

0:31:43.400 --> 0:31:45.600
<v Speaker 1>the Republicans start losing election cycles, they're like, okay, well

0:31:45.640 --> 0:31:47.400
<v Speaker 1>now we need to get the bounce of power back.

0:31:47.440 --> 0:31:49.040
<v Speaker 1>We need to bring drawn the Democrats own. So they're

0:31:49.040 --> 0:31:52.360
<v Speaker 1>they're they're largely trying to build a sort of electoral base.

0:31:52.880 --> 0:31:54.640
<v Speaker 1>And and again like this, this this will look familiar

0:31:54.640 --> 0:31:56.800
<v Speaker 1>to people who remember two thousand and ten because it's

0:31:56.840 --> 0:32:00.800
<v Speaker 1>the same thing except and this is the thing that

0:32:00.920 --> 0:32:02.560
<v Speaker 1>I I I this is the part where I genuinely

0:32:02.600 --> 0:32:06.920
<v Speaker 1>they can't tell whether the Freedom Works people, whether the cokes,

0:32:06.960 --> 0:32:09.800
<v Speaker 1>whether that whether this sort of dark wening network either

0:32:09.920 --> 0:32:11.840
<v Speaker 1>I don't I can't tell whether they understand what they're

0:32:11.840 --> 0:32:16.720
<v Speaker 1>doing and like it or they're just incredibly naive. But

0:32:16.800 --> 0:32:19.360
<v Speaker 1>you know, this is not two thousand ten, right. You

0:32:19.440 --> 0:32:24.040
<v Speaker 1>can't when when you start mobilizing people, like mobilizing people

0:32:24.040 --> 0:32:26.160
<v Speaker 1>on the right wing to go to a place, they

0:32:26.200 --> 0:32:28.840
<v Speaker 1>don't just like sit there and hold signs anymore. You

0:32:28.920 --> 0:32:32.280
<v Speaker 1>cannot You cannot contain them at this point. You cannot

0:32:32.360 --> 0:32:35.520
<v Speaker 1>control the spread like you have once you've you've opened

0:32:35.520 --> 0:32:37.720
<v Speaker 1>this can, and there's no way of putting them back

0:32:37.720 --> 0:32:40.680
<v Speaker 1>in because as soon as they start organizing on appside telegram,

0:32:40.800 --> 0:32:44.800
<v Speaker 1>they're one step away from skull masks. And then they're

0:32:44.920 --> 0:32:47.160
<v Speaker 1>being okay with cheering around people that are going to

0:32:47.240 --> 0:32:49.160
<v Speaker 1>go beat up that are going to go beat up

0:32:49.160 --> 0:32:51.160
<v Speaker 1>people in these meetings. Yeah, and this is this is

0:32:51.320 --> 0:32:53.560
<v Speaker 1>this is really the thing that I think it's it's

0:32:53.560 --> 0:32:55.120
<v Speaker 1>not just January six that we live in the shadow

0:32:55.200 --> 0:32:57.640
<v Speaker 1>January six, but it's also about you know, if you

0:32:57.680 --> 0:33:01.400
<v Speaker 1>look at how how the anti lockdown protest went, right,

0:33:01.440 --> 0:33:02.840
<v Speaker 1>you a bunch of people showing up with guns, the

0:33:02.880 --> 0:33:07.040
<v Speaker 1>capitals and that stuff was extremely effective. And that in

0:33:07.040 --> 0:33:10.440
<v Speaker 1>the combination between that in January six has you know,

0:33:10.520 --> 0:33:13.040
<v Speaker 1>it's open the floodgates and now that was that was

0:33:13.920 --> 0:33:17.080
<v Speaker 1>six being possible. Is the more and more protests around

0:33:17.120 --> 0:33:20.200
<v Speaker 1>capitals of people showing up in mass to overwhelm anyone,

0:33:20.240 --> 0:33:21.920
<v Speaker 1>and because they're all white and because they're all like

0:33:21.960 --> 0:33:25.160
<v Speaker 1>middle class conservatives, no one's gonna stop them. Yeah, and

0:33:25.160 --> 0:33:26.840
<v Speaker 1>and you know, and this is the thing, right, you know,

0:33:27.200 --> 0:33:33.440
<v Speaker 1>the Cokes. I I genuinely don't know what the Cokes

0:33:33.600 --> 0:33:35.280
<v Speaker 1>want out of this. My guess is that the thing

0:33:35.320 --> 0:33:37.560
<v Speaker 1>that they want is a new based Republican voters. But

0:33:37.560 --> 0:33:39.200
<v Speaker 1>that's not what they're creating. The thing that they're creating

0:33:39.320 --> 0:33:43.240
<v Speaker 1>is a new core fascist street fighters. And you know it,

0:33:43.360 --> 0:33:46.440
<v Speaker 1>at some point, it doesn't it literally doesn't matter whether

0:33:46.560 --> 0:33:47.960
<v Speaker 1>or not this is what the Cokes are trying to

0:33:48.000 --> 0:33:51.640
<v Speaker 1>do or like not trying to do, because they're in

0:33:51.680 --> 0:33:54.080
<v Speaker 1>the end it's it's just pushing people towards thinking there's

0:33:54.120 --> 0:33:58.480
<v Speaker 1>no political solution. It's still only only violence and overwhelming

0:33:58.520 --> 0:34:00.640
<v Speaker 1>people in mass is the only way to get the

0:34:00.720 --> 0:34:03.680
<v Speaker 1>change that they want. The change they want is to

0:34:03.800 --> 0:34:08.120
<v Speaker 1>have trans kids not exists. And yeah, just more more

0:34:08.160 --> 0:34:12.120
<v Speaker 1>and more like fecistic policies, um, whether that be you know,

0:34:12.280 --> 0:34:15.239
<v Speaker 1>banning books that mentioned gay people existing or what it's

0:34:15.280 --> 0:34:18.160
<v Speaker 1>like to be a gay person, whether that be teaching

0:34:18.239 --> 0:34:21.200
<v Speaker 1>people that racism is still an actual thing that exists,

0:34:21.600 --> 0:34:24.080
<v Speaker 1>or that be putting a masculine so you don't kill

0:34:24.160 --> 0:34:27.960
<v Speaker 1>your grandma or whatever. Yep. Well, and you know, and

0:34:28.040 --> 0:34:29.799
<v Speaker 1>I think I think one last thing, right, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we saw what happened last time they were in power, right,

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<v Speaker 1>and it was you know, and like you can you

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<v Speaker 1>can talk about how a lot of the worst stuff

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<v Speaker 1>is still happening. Was like, yeah, they put a bunch

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<v Speaker 1>of people in concentration camps, right, and if they if

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<v Speaker 1>they take back power again, and there's a good chance

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<v Speaker 1>that they're going to because you know, the Democrats are

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<v Speaker 1>being they they you know, the Democrats never want to

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<v Speaker 1>be in power. The thing they want to be minority oppositions.

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<v Speaker 1>They can do fundraising, right and if you know, when

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<v Speaker 1>when when these people, if these people take power again,

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<v Speaker 1>it's going to be even worse than it was last time. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>The thing looking at looking at the Virginia election, the

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<v Speaker 1>night of recording is a great example of that. Yeah. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>in terms of yeah, it turns out when democrats just

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<v Speaker 1>do nothing and just sit around in office, you don't

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<v Speaker 1>convince young people to want to vote for them because

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<v Speaker 1>they're not actually doing anything, so then they just sit out.

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<v Speaker 1>Then the Republicans actually do vote in people. Then we

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<v Speaker 1>get uh we anti c R T person elected to

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<v Speaker 1>be the governor of Virginia. And that's the episode. Good Times. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I hope everybody's optimistic feeling nice. Well, um, we'll be

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<v Speaker 1>back with something else. Research your school boards, who is

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<v Speaker 1>in it, and just protests around it and maybe show

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<v Speaker 1>up with some of your I don't know buddies with

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<v Speaker 1>your lattes and stand in front of the building and

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<v Speaker 1>be like, no, we don't want you, we don't want

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<v Speaker 1>you to shut stuff down because no one else is

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<v Speaker 1>going to stop them. It has to be just like

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<v Speaker 1>regular people. You can't going to be the oposite. It's

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<v Speaker 1>not going to be any elected democrat and honestly, like,

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<v Speaker 1>you can't rely on teens and black block to do

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<v Speaker 1>this that this isn't this isn't what they need to

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<v Speaker 1>be doing. It should be like yeah, it'd be like

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<v Speaker 1>millennials and Gen X need to be like, hey, no,

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<v Speaker 1>we're not gonna we're not gonna have you doing this. Well,

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