1 00:00:02,520 --> 00:00:07,040 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Audio Studios, Podcasts, Radio News. 2 00:00:07,840 --> 00:00:10,240 Speaker 2: Hi everyone, thank you so much for joining us tonight. 3 00:00:10,240 --> 00:00:13,120 Speaker 2: We're really excited about the conversation, and thank you Jalen 4 00:00:13,160 --> 00:00:17,720 Speaker 2: for being here. You've had a particularly impressive season this year, 5 00:00:17,800 --> 00:00:21,800 Speaker 2: breaking several Boston Celtics records, including recently tying with Larry 6 00:00:21,800 --> 00:00:25,520 Speaker 2: Bird for the most consecutive games scored with at least 7 00:00:25,560 --> 00:00:31,840 Speaker 2: thirty points. So congratulations, thank you. But you've been a 8 00:00:31,880 --> 00:00:35,159 Speaker 2: passionate advocate throughout your career about both you and your 9 00:00:35,159 --> 00:00:38,120 Speaker 2: colleagues on the court being seen as more than just athletes. 10 00:00:38,479 --> 00:00:41,760 Speaker 2: You're a thinker, you're a social justice advocate, You're an 11 00:00:41,880 --> 00:00:45,680 Speaker 2: entrepreneur and a philanthropist. Can you talk about that dynamic 12 00:00:45,760 --> 00:00:47,559 Speaker 2: and what is it like for you to juggle all 13 00:00:47,600 --> 00:00:49,000 Speaker 2: of those different roles. 14 00:00:49,600 --> 00:00:52,240 Speaker 1: I think at this point is just it's kind of normal. 15 00:00:52,800 --> 00:00:56,080 Speaker 1: You know, from eighteen when I first came in to 16 00:00:56,120 --> 00:01:00,840 Speaker 1: the NBA, I kind of had my experience cultivated at 17 00:01:00,840 --> 00:01:03,480 Speaker 1: Berkeley where I you know, I interned out a VC 18 00:01:03,680 --> 00:01:05,559 Speaker 1: when I was at when I was at Berkeley Bay. 19 00:01:05,600 --> 00:01:07,759 Speaker 3: Ventures with Eric Moore. 20 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:12,759 Speaker 1: On top of doing what I did athletically and then 21 00:01:12,800 --> 00:01:17,679 Speaker 1: also challenging myself academically through graduate courses and stuff like that. 22 00:01:17,720 --> 00:01:20,480 Speaker 1: So I think UC Berkeley really prepared me for the 23 00:01:20,520 --> 00:01:22,240 Speaker 1: journey that I'm going through like right now. 24 00:01:23,560 --> 00:01:26,760 Speaker 2: And you're also you use your platform a lot to 25 00:01:26,800 --> 00:01:29,679 Speaker 2: speak out on issues off the court. Can you talk 26 00:01:29,720 --> 00:01:32,479 Speaker 2: about why that's important to you and why that's something 27 00:01:32,520 --> 00:01:33,360 Speaker 2: that you choose to do. 28 00:01:34,560 --> 00:01:37,200 Speaker 1: Sure, Yeah, I think having a platform I look at 29 00:01:37,240 --> 00:01:42,280 Speaker 1: as a responsibility, like being able to affect households that 30 00:01:42,319 --> 00:01:45,399 Speaker 1: you may not ever get to see or reach or 31 00:01:45,600 --> 00:01:50,320 Speaker 1: families in the next generation in a sense. So I 32 00:01:50,360 --> 00:01:55,920 Speaker 1: take that with a great responsibility. So anytime that I can, 33 00:01:56,120 --> 00:01:59,000 Speaker 1: I try to push what's what I view is important 34 00:01:59,040 --> 00:02:01,160 Speaker 1: and what I want the ne US generation to learn about, 35 00:02:01,520 --> 00:02:03,640 Speaker 1: what I want them to emphasize, and what I think 36 00:02:03,680 --> 00:02:06,360 Speaker 1: being an athlete is about. You know, it's not just 37 00:02:06,400 --> 00:02:11,359 Speaker 1: about entertainment. It is about influence. To be able to 38 00:02:11,440 --> 00:02:14,480 Speaker 1: have a positive influence on your community, to be able 39 00:02:14,480 --> 00:02:18,600 Speaker 1: to have a positive influence on you know, society in itself. 40 00:02:19,760 --> 00:02:22,840 Speaker 1: So I kind of try to live my life in 41 00:02:22,880 --> 00:02:23,480 Speaker 1: that regard. 42 00:02:24,680 --> 00:02:26,880 Speaker 2: Do you feel like since you've been doing that, the 43 00:02:26,960 --> 00:02:30,120 Speaker 2: narrative around athletes has changed. Do you feel like it's 44 00:02:30,320 --> 00:02:33,240 Speaker 2: it's starting to break through this multi dimensional aspect. 45 00:02:33,600 --> 00:02:35,240 Speaker 3: I will hope so, I would hope. 46 00:02:35,280 --> 00:02:38,440 Speaker 1: So I would like to think that, you know, maybe 47 00:02:39,680 --> 00:02:42,200 Speaker 1: you know, sometimes it feels like that's not the case, 48 00:02:42,280 --> 00:02:44,080 Speaker 1: but you know, I would like to think that the 49 00:02:44,120 --> 00:02:46,959 Speaker 1: next generation is going to be a lot more athletes 50 00:02:47,200 --> 00:02:52,560 Speaker 1: or you know, understanding their value, thinking about how to 51 00:02:52,639 --> 00:02:57,920 Speaker 1: use their platform, also developing themselves outside of just being 52 00:02:58,600 --> 00:03:01,919 Speaker 1: you know, entertainer sized lead in developing how they can 53 00:03:02,040 --> 00:03:05,560 Speaker 1: have a positive role influence on society and the community 54 00:03:05,560 --> 00:03:08,200 Speaker 1: in itself. I would think there's in the future there 55 00:03:08,200 --> 00:03:10,480 Speaker 1: will be a bunch more athletes that will be coming behind. 56 00:03:10,800 --> 00:03:12,560 Speaker 1: And I've talked to a lot of them, you know, 57 00:03:12,560 --> 00:03:15,720 Speaker 1: I just think the courage is what they just need. 58 00:03:15,800 --> 00:03:19,960 Speaker 1: Like once things become popularized and normalized, like it becomes 59 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:23,720 Speaker 1: mainstream for athletes to be in a certain way, I 60 00:03:23,760 --> 00:03:24,839 Speaker 1: think you'll see a lot more. 61 00:03:25,560 --> 00:03:29,360 Speaker 2: And you turn down endorsement offers worth fifty million dollars 62 00:03:29,440 --> 00:03:32,080 Speaker 2: over multiple years and shows instead to launch your own 63 00:03:32,200 --> 00:03:35,040 Speaker 2: sneaker brand seven forty one. Can you talk about what 64 00:03:35,160 --> 00:03:37,640 Speaker 2: motivated that decision and why you chose to do it. 65 00:03:38,400 --> 00:03:42,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, probably some delusion. 66 00:03:43,080 --> 00:03:50,160 Speaker 1: You know, most people will probably, you know, scratch their 67 00:03:50,200 --> 00:03:53,960 Speaker 1: head about decisions like that, and probably some people that 68 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:57,160 Speaker 1: I know that are close to me probably still scratching 69 00:03:57,160 --> 00:04:01,520 Speaker 1: their head about some decisions that I've made. But for me, 70 00:04:02,400 --> 00:04:06,560 Speaker 1: you know things, Obviously, money is important. I think that 71 00:04:06,680 --> 00:04:09,040 Speaker 1: is a great resource to be able to do things 72 00:04:09,080 --> 00:04:13,160 Speaker 1: that you know, you want to do, financial freedom. But 73 00:04:13,200 --> 00:04:16,760 Speaker 1: there's things that I value more than money, you know, 74 00:04:17,320 --> 00:04:23,760 Speaker 1: commitment to my community, I think, just integrity. It means more, 75 00:04:24,360 --> 00:04:29,240 Speaker 1: being able to have an input, you know, creatively. All 76 00:04:29,320 --> 00:04:32,719 Speaker 1: these things are things that I would weigh when I 77 00:04:32,720 --> 00:04:36,520 Speaker 1: make my decision. And if you are taking away all 78 00:04:36,560 --> 00:04:40,560 Speaker 1: those things and only wanting to give me money, you know, 79 00:04:41,040 --> 00:04:43,920 Speaker 1: or you know, limiting my voice or something like that, 80 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:46,280 Speaker 1: then it doesn't sound like something that might be for 81 00:04:46,360 --> 00:04:47,080 Speaker 1: Jalen Brow. 82 00:04:47,800 --> 00:04:50,680 Speaker 2: What's it been like running your own sneaker parent. I mean, 83 00:04:50,720 --> 00:04:54,440 Speaker 2: you're essentially a small businessman at that point. And what 84 00:04:54,520 --> 00:04:56,360 Speaker 2: lessons have you learned from that that you might want 85 00:04:56,400 --> 00:04:58,040 Speaker 2: to pass on to that next generation of that. 86 00:04:58,360 --> 00:05:01,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, I've learned so much. It's been so many ups 87 00:05:01,080 --> 00:05:04,920 Speaker 1: and downs. We've had delays, you know, we've had you know, 88 00:05:06,560 --> 00:05:09,000 Speaker 1: we've had things to go in different directions. We had, 89 00:05:09,080 --> 00:05:11,960 Speaker 1: you know, we had great victories and things that we 90 00:05:11,960 --> 00:05:13,839 Speaker 1: were super proud of and things that we want to 91 00:05:13,880 --> 00:05:16,840 Speaker 1: continue to get better at, just like any company, you know. 92 00:05:16,960 --> 00:05:19,960 Speaker 1: But to be able to go through that process I 93 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:23,239 Speaker 1: started at twenty six, twenty seven years old. I'm twenty 94 00:05:23,320 --> 00:05:26,720 Speaker 1: nine now, to be able to understand like kind of 95 00:05:26,720 --> 00:05:30,240 Speaker 1: the ins and outs of you know, the sneaker industry. 96 00:05:31,040 --> 00:05:33,800 Speaker 3: I've learned a lot about and what I would like to. 97 00:05:33,800 --> 00:05:36,760 Speaker 1: See differently and kind of what I want to provide 98 00:05:36,800 --> 00:05:39,479 Speaker 1: for the next generation, just so they can have an 99 00:05:39,520 --> 00:05:42,760 Speaker 1: option that's alternative to like what's being prisoned out there 100 00:05:42,839 --> 00:05:47,039 Speaker 1: right now right now. Largely, you know, artificial metrics dominate 101 00:05:47,040 --> 00:05:52,440 Speaker 1: our industry. Bots, you know, fake viral moments, clickbait. It's 102 00:05:52,520 --> 00:05:55,719 Speaker 1: kind of what they use as a as almost a 103 00:05:55,760 --> 00:05:59,520 Speaker 1: substitute for influence, right like we see it all the 104 00:05:59,560 --> 00:06:05,360 Speaker 1: time through these accounts mostly you know, large organizations. They 105 00:06:05,360 --> 00:06:09,479 Speaker 1: have a job description where your job is to go 106 00:06:09,600 --> 00:06:13,960 Speaker 1: find the most popularized accounts, work with them in order 107 00:06:14,040 --> 00:06:16,760 Speaker 1: to use their influence in order to push your product 108 00:06:16,839 --> 00:06:20,279 Speaker 1: or push your whatever. But we've gotten away from storytelling 109 00:06:20,960 --> 00:06:24,360 Speaker 1: in the industry, and that's like a true way to 110 00:06:25,720 --> 00:06:30,560 Speaker 1: you know, galvanize influence like storyteller testimonies like someone went 111 00:06:30,600 --> 00:06:34,920 Speaker 1: from here to here that inspires people. The industry has 112 00:06:35,000 --> 00:06:40,360 Speaker 1: largely got away from that because they think technology has 113 00:06:40,440 --> 00:06:44,880 Speaker 1: somehow become a substitute for human influence. And I think 114 00:06:44,920 --> 00:06:46,600 Speaker 1: that was the wrong decision and I would like to 115 00:06:46,640 --> 00:06:50,120 Speaker 1: see it go back and actually engaging with that consumer 116 00:06:50,320 --> 00:06:54,440 Speaker 1: of your products. Yeah, you know, I think people are 117 00:06:54,440 --> 00:06:57,440 Speaker 1: inspired and motivated when they hear other people's stories, and 118 00:06:57,560 --> 00:07:00,440 Speaker 1: they hear when they get to see them visually come 119 00:07:00,480 --> 00:07:04,160 Speaker 1: together and you get to see someone's testimonies that are 120 00:07:04,200 --> 00:07:06,000 Speaker 1: now it's a budget behind it, and now you get 121 00:07:06,040 --> 00:07:08,440 Speaker 1: to like I used to grow up seeing Lebron running 122 00:07:08,440 --> 00:07:12,040 Speaker 1: down South Beach and in him in Cleveland and everybody 123 00:07:12,160 --> 00:07:14,920 Speaker 1: like you know that as a kid, that was inspiring. 124 00:07:15,200 --> 00:07:19,600 Speaker 1: Now you just see clickbait on Now you just see 125 00:07:20,080 --> 00:07:22,840 Speaker 1: you know, clickbait and fake viral moments and see the 126 00:07:22,880 --> 00:07:26,640 Speaker 1: accounts that are trying to create and make me feel 127 00:07:26,640 --> 00:07:30,440 Speaker 1: like this is important, and it just don't feel the same. 128 00:07:30,520 --> 00:07:33,880 Speaker 1: It's like, you know, like it's like artificial light versus 129 00:07:34,200 --> 00:07:34,600 Speaker 1: the sun. 130 00:07:35,800 --> 00:07:36,679 Speaker 3: You know, it's a difference. 131 00:07:37,680 --> 00:07:40,200 Speaker 2: And you're also an investor in happy which is a 132 00:07:40,240 --> 00:07:42,400 Speaker 2: tech wellness company, and I wondered if you could talk 133 00:07:42,440 --> 00:07:44,560 Speaker 2: a little bit about what that company does and why 134 00:07:44,560 --> 00:07:45,800 Speaker 2: you chose to get involved with it. 135 00:07:46,160 --> 00:07:48,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, science is one of my loves. 136 00:07:48,920 --> 00:07:52,480 Speaker 1: I love science, also love history, so you know, I 137 00:07:52,520 --> 00:07:55,280 Speaker 1: look forward to going back to school and potentially getting 138 00:07:55,320 --> 00:07:59,600 Speaker 1: my degree in the scientific field, maybe physics, maybe astrophysics, 139 00:07:59,600 --> 00:08:03,240 Speaker 1: et cetera. But frequency technology is something that I've always 140 00:08:03,320 --> 00:08:07,560 Speaker 1: been fascinated with. Like, you know, everything that's around us 141 00:08:07,600 --> 00:08:10,920 Speaker 1: is frequency and vibration. That's just how matter is formed, 142 00:08:11,480 --> 00:08:15,920 Speaker 1: you know. So to be able to you know, have 143 00:08:15,960 --> 00:08:19,200 Speaker 1: a device or be able to learn about how these 144 00:08:20,080 --> 00:08:22,840 Speaker 1: frequencies and vibrations can have an impact on your daily life, 145 00:08:23,160 --> 00:08:27,560 Speaker 1: it's kind of what Happy is about. So I since 146 00:08:27,600 --> 00:08:30,760 Speaker 1: twenty twenty four, I've been the chief Innovation Officer of Happy, 147 00:08:30,800 --> 00:08:34,560 Speaker 1: which is this technology company that utilizes these frequencies, and 148 00:08:34,760 --> 00:08:37,200 Speaker 1: it's been my role to come up with what the 149 00:08:37,240 --> 00:08:40,720 Speaker 1: future of frequency technology could look like for this company. 150 00:08:40,760 --> 00:08:42,000 Speaker 3: So I've been enjoying that role. 151 00:08:43,280 --> 00:08:46,760 Speaker 1: I've learned a lot in that role, and we have 152 00:08:46,840 --> 00:08:50,320 Speaker 1: some cool announcements to make in the future regarding you know, 153 00:08:50,559 --> 00:08:56,000 Speaker 1: rebrand this up and cooming year and also some more 154 00:08:56,040 --> 00:08:59,600 Speaker 1: products that we would like to push out. But science 155 00:09:00,240 --> 00:09:04,640 Speaker 1: is always something that I've been fascinated with that kind 156 00:09:04,640 --> 00:09:06,079 Speaker 1: of makes me feel like a kid again. 157 00:09:06,160 --> 00:09:09,160 Speaker 3: So it's been cool with being the CIO of. 158 00:09:10,040 --> 00:09:13,240 Speaker 2: Happy And We've talked about some of your endeavors and 159 00:09:13,280 --> 00:09:14,720 Speaker 2: we're going to talk about more of them. But I 160 00:09:14,760 --> 00:09:16,839 Speaker 2: did want to ask, I mean, even just the ones 161 00:09:16,880 --> 00:09:20,240 Speaker 2: we've already talked about, how difficult is it to do 162 00:09:20,360 --> 00:09:22,800 Speaker 2: things like that with a season that stretches as long 163 00:09:22,840 --> 00:09:25,800 Speaker 2: as the NBA. How do you devote enough time to 164 00:09:25,840 --> 00:09:26,760 Speaker 2: these different ventures. 165 00:09:27,200 --> 00:09:27,880 Speaker 3: It's a balance. 166 00:09:28,679 --> 00:09:32,200 Speaker 1: It's a balance, and I'm very talented at the game 167 00:09:32,240 --> 00:09:36,160 Speaker 1: of basketball and I always have men and maybe I 168 00:09:36,200 --> 00:09:38,840 Speaker 1: could have diverted more focus in my younger career to 169 00:09:39,679 --> 00:09:42,560 Speaker 1: being all in on basketball, like and kind of just 170 00:09:43,400 --> 00:09:45,320 Speaker 1: these other things that I've also been interested in and 171 00:09:45,360 --> 00:09:49,360 Speaker 1: I've kind of like cultivated and groomed alongside of my 172 00:09:49,440 --> 00:09:52,640 Speaker 1: basketball career because I just always looked at things from 173 00:09:52,640 --> 00:09:56,920 Speaker 1: a big picture kind of approach. But most athletes, they 174 00:09:57,040 --> 00:09:59,320 Speaker 1: just it's just, you know, this is the main thing. 175 00:09:59,400 --> 00:10:01,680 Speaker 1: Let me just focus on this. I kind of focused 176 00:10:01,679 --> 00:10:04,240 Speaker 1: on everything, and I think I've just had the privilege 177 00:10:04,280 --> 00:10:07,600 Speaker 1: that I've been. I've been blessed with talents and I 178 00:10:07,720 --> 00:10:10,800 Speaker 1: work hard, but I've always been naturally just very good 179 00:10:10,840 --> 00:10:11,400 Speaker 1: at this game. 180 00:10:11,960 --> 00:10:13,800 Speaker 3: So where you know. 181 00:10:15,520 --> 00:10:17,520 Speaker 1: Someone else would be might be difficult for them to 182 00:10:17,600 --> 00:10:19,480 Speaker 1: juggle one or two things, I could juggle three or 183 00:10:19,480 --> 00:10:23,320 Speaker 1: four over these, you know. So this season I focused 184 00:10:23,320 --> 00:10:28,240 Speaker 1: more on basketball than I ever have, I think in 185 00:10:28,280 --> 00:10:31,400 Speaker 1: my career, just because my team needed me to do 186 00:10:31,520 --> 00:10:35,960 Speaker 1: and be this every single nay. But you know, throughout 187 00:10:36,000 --> 00:10:39,120 Speaker 1: my career, I've always kind of had this approach where, 188 00:10:39,600 --> 00:10:41,560 Speaker 1: you know, I love basketball, but I love science, I 189 00:10:41,559 --> 00:10:44,000 Speaker 1: love education, I love philanthropy, I love giving back. I 190 00:10:44,040 --> 00:10:46,840 Speaker 1: love all these things as well, so I would divert 191 00:10:46,880 --> 00:10:47,760 Speaker 1: my time as such. 192 00:10:49,080 --> 00:10:51,439 Speaker 2: When you signed your five year, three hundred and four 193 00:10:51,440 --> 00:10:54,760 Speaker 2: million contract extension with the Boston Celtics, you announced another 194 00:10:54,880 --> 00:10:57,839 Speaker 2: kind of long term investment, and that was your vision 195 00:10:57,880 --> 00:11:00,559 Speaker 2: to build a modern day version of Black Waltster here 196 00:11:00,640 --> 00:11:04,880 Speaker 2: in Boston. Can you talk about why that particular issue 197 00:11:04,960 --> 00:11:07,560 Speaker 2: is one that you've chosen to focus on and ultimately 198 00:11:07,640 --> 00:11:09,480 Speaker 2: what you do hope to achieve here in Boston. 199 00:11:10,200 --> 00:11:13,679 Speaker 1: Yeah, So, for those who are unfamiliar, when I signed 200 00:11:14,200 --> 00:11:16,320 Speaker 1: my last contract, it was one of the largest contracts 201 00:11:16,360 --> 00:11:19,520 Speaker 1: in NBA history, and I was in twenty twenty three, 202 00:11:19,760 --> 00:11:23,000 Speaker 1: twenty twenty three, right, So I thought at that moment 203 00:11:23,040 --> 00:11:28,679 Speaker 1: it'd be fitting to talk about since wealth and financials 204 00:11:28,720 --> 00:11:30,280 Speaker 1: was a topic of discussion, I thought it would be 205 00:11:30,280 --> 00:11:32,400 Speaker 1: great to bring up like that. I live here in 206 00:11:32,440 --> 00:11:35,079 Speaker 1: Boston and one of the things that doesn't get discussed 207 00:11:35,240 --> 00:11:39,600 Speaker 1: enough is the wealth gap here. It was an article 208 00:11:39,640 --> 00:11:41,800 Speaker 1: that came out, i think in the Boston Globe that 209 00:11:42,440 --> 00:11:46,400 Speaker 1: went viral that's very popular, talks about the average means 210 00:11:46,400 --> 00:11:51,120 Speaker 1: for households and demographics, and a lot of people were 211 00:11:51,160 --> 00:11:56,319 Speaker 1: disturbed by that, including me. So I thought, using your platform, 212 00:11:56,920 --> 00:12:00,720 Speaker 1: you know, at this stage where we're talking to about 213 00:12:00,960 --> 00:12:03,400 Speaker 1: you know, what are you gonna do or what would 214 00:12:03,440 --> 00:12:07,760 Speaker 1: you like to do with the financial freedom and the 215 00:12:07,760 --> 00:12:10,960 Speaker 1: financial games that you just you know, signed for in 216 00:12:10,960 --> 00:12:13,560 Speaker 1: this city, I thought it would be fitting to make 217 00:12:13,600 --> 00:12:16,760 Speaker 1: a commitment to the city that I play in to 218 00:12:18,080 --> 00:12:20,479 Speaker 1: you know, attack some of the things that I feel. 219 00:12:20,200 --> 00:12:21,880 Speaker 3: I could also make it a better boss. 220 00:12:22,240 --> 00:12:25,320 Speaker 1: Like I've been here for ten years now, and so 221 00:12:25,400 --> 00:12:27,600 Speaker 1: I view myself as a part of their community. So 222 00:12:27,720 --> 00:12:32,120 Speaker 1: when I'm listening to the people and that I work 223 00:12:32,160 --> 00:12:35,320 Speaker 1: with the students, the families, et cetera about some of 224 00:12:35,360 --> 00:12:37,880 Speaker 1: the things that they would like to see different, you know, 225 00:12:37,960 --> 00:12:39,880 Speaker 1: some of the things that they you know, wish they 226 00:12:39,880 --> 00:12:43,720 Speaker 1: had opportunities to or access to that you know, nobody's really. 227 00:12:45,120 --> 00:12:46,240 Speaker 3: Talking about or bringing up. 228 00:12:46,320 --> 00:12:49,079 Speaker 1: I think, you know, from my platform being a a 229 00:12:49,160 --> 00:12:52,280 Speaker 1: athlete here, being one of the faces of the franchise. Uh, 230 00:12:52,360 --> 00:12:55,920 Speaker 1: I found it fitting for me to do that. So 231 00:12:57,000 --> 00:12:59,640 Speaker 1: that was a few years ago. Now we're where, we've 232 00:12:59,720 --> 00:13:03,680 Speaker 1: launched Boston Exchange. We've had a cohort you know that 233 00:13:03,720 --> 00:13:06,160 Speaker 1: I've invested in. I've had a great partner in Drew 234 00:13:06,160 --> 00:13:09,360 Speaker 1: Holliday through his jailh Fund, one of the greatest teammates 235 00:13:09,400 --> 00:13:12,280 Speaker 1: that I've ever had partner with me. We both contributed 236 00:13:12,280 --> 00:13:16,000 Speaker 1: about a million dollars into investing into startups here in Boston, 237 00:13:16,480 --> 00:13:20,880 Speaker 1: into an accelerated program that you know, gives the talented 238 00:13:20,920 --> 00:13:24,280 Speaker 1: group of people that exist here that are minorities an 239 00:13:24,280 --> 00:13:28,800 Speaker 1: opportunity to win here in the city that they're born 240 00:13:28,840 --> 00:13:33,880 Speaker 1: and raising. The companies that we select often are the 241 00:13:33,920 --> 00:13:37,280 Speaker 1: solution based, Like they deal with sustainability, they deal with 242 00:13:37,640 --> 00:13:40,800 Speaker 1: food and securities, they deal with you know, mental health 243 00:13:41,000 --> 00:13:43,920 Speaker 1: or just staying healthy in the environment. So I feel 244 00:13:43,920 --> 00:13:46,920 Speaker 1: like you're like solving two problems in one. Not only 245 00:13:46,960 --> 00:13:50,600 Speaker 1: are you investing in the talent that's already there in 246 00:13:50,640 --> 00:13:53,880 Speaker 1: your city, you're also investing in something that's a solution 247 00:13:54,400 --> 00:13:57,959 Speaker 1: within the community as well. So I'm a firm believer 248 00:13:58,040 --> 00:14:01,160 Speaker 1: that investing in the talent here, talent would invest back 249 00:14:01,160 --> 00:14:02,800 Speaker 1: into the city that they were born and raised in. 250 00:14:02,880 --> 00:14:05,599 Speaker 1: So I think in the future we would like to 251 00:14:05,640 --> 00:14:10,960 Speaker 1: see you know, more companies, you know, more talented groups emerge, 252 00:14:11,240 --> 00:14:14,760 Speaker 1: and hopefully they emerge from our telebrated program. 253 00:14:14,880 --> 00:14:17,360 Speaker 2: Are there is there a particular success story from that 254 00:14:17,440 --> 00:14:20,920 Speaker 2: first round of applicants to your incubator accelerator program that 255 00:14:20,920 --> 00:14:22,080 Speaker 2: you're particularly proud of. 256 00:14:22,480 --> 00:14:25,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, we have a few, even so far, it's only 257 00:14:25,120 --> 00:14:28,520 Speaker 1: been a year or so. We've had you know, some uh, 258 00:14:28,760 --> 00:14:30,800 Speaker 1: one of our groups or one of our companies that 259 00:14:30,840 --> 00:14:33,960 Speaker 1: we've invested in Land a large government contract at the 260 00:14:34,040 --> 00:14:35,280 Speaker 1: Children's museum. 261 00:14:35,360 --> 00:14:38,880 Speaker 3: They deal with like, you know, food quality. 262 00:14:38,520 --> 00:14:47,120 Speaker 1: For Yeah, she deals with food quality for like you know, 263 00:14:48,120 --> 00:14:51,560 Speaker 1: you know, infants and adolescents and things like that. 264 00:14:52,120 --> 00:14:56,240 Speaker 3: And they were addling uh uh, they applied for According 265 00:14:56,240 --> 00:14:57,160 Speaker 3: to them, they applied to. 266 00:14:57,120 --> 00:14:59,960 Speaker 1: Get this you know contract through the museum a few times, 267 00:15:00,160 --> 00:15:03,360 Speaker 1: and then they got denied. And then once you know, 268 00:15:04,280 --> 00:15:07,120 Speaker 1: people saw that we were connected through our accelerated program, 269 00:15:07,160 --> 00:15:11,360 Speaker 1: that got the contract got approved. So now you know, 270 00:15:11,440 --> 00:15:14,080 Speaker 1: that puts them in more doors, gives them more visibility, 271 00:15:14,480 --> 00:15:16,520 Speaker 1: and I think they're on the way to being successful. 272 00:15:16,560 --> 00:15:19,400 Speaker 1: It's also a hair care line that's doing really well. 273 00:15:19,520 --> 00:15:22,760 Speaker 1: I think they're probably doing the best out of all 274 00:15:22,800 --> 00:15:26,120 Speaker 1: of our groups. I forget the name, you know right 275 00:15:26,160 --> 00:15:28,880 Speaker 1: now of the company, but it's a haircare group that's 276 00:15:28,880 --> 00:15:32,120 Speaker 1: from Boston that we've also invested in in the last year. 277 00:15:32,360 --> 00:15:34,800 Speaker 1: They were already you know, they were very, very talented, 278 00:15:35,160 --> 00:15:38,240 Speaker 1: but they're starting to emerge and other they're able to 279 00:15:38,240 --> 00:15:41,400 Speaker 1: get other people to invest as well, And that's a 280 00:15:41,400 --> 00:15:43,080 Speaker 1: part of it, Like we wanted to just create the 281 00:15:43,960 --> 00:15:47,040 Speaker 1: motion for other people to be able to see the 282 00:15:47,120 --> 00:15:50,640 Speaker 1: talent that's here, because then now they're getting some notoriety 283 00:15:51,040 --> 00:15:53,080 Speaker 1: and now they're able to go and get into doors 284 00:15:53,080 --> 00:15:55,320 Speaker 1: that maybe they weren't able to get into before. That's 285 00:15:55,360 --> 00:15:57,920 Speaker 1: a part of it. Just creating that social capital is 286 00:15:57,960 --> 00:15:59,480 Speaker 1: a step of it. Like we don't want to just 287 00:15:59,520 --> 00:16:04,520 Speaker 1: give companies money and just disappear and just think like like, 288 00:16:04,560 --> 00:16:06,600 Speaker 1: we have programming that they come and sign up how 289 00:16:06,600 --> 00:16:09,920 Speaker 1: to better their business. They did programming at Harvard that 290 00:16:09,960 --> 00:16:12,200 Speaker 1: they had to go through. They had programming at MIT 291 00:16:12,640 --> 00:16:14,880 Speaker 1: that they had to go through, how to develop and 292 00:16:14,960 --> 00:16:17,960 Speaker 1: correlate their businesses, how to make it more profitable, and 293 00:16:18,360 --> 00:16:23,200 Speaker 1: et cetera. They use AI and technology to make things 294 00:16:23,560 --> 00:16:26,080 Speaker 1: a little bit easier for them to in house, bookkeep, 295 00:16:26,120 --> 00:16:29,160 Speaker 1: or whatever the case may be. And then you know, 296 00:16:29,320 --> 00:16:32,360 Speaker 1: we we try to give them that social capital on 297 00:16:32,440 --> 00:16:35,000 Speaker 1: top of that so that they can, you know, kind 298 00:16:35,000 --> 00:16:40,200 Speaker 1: of write their own destiny rather than rely on anyone. 299 00:16:40,440 --> 00:16:43,240 Speaker 1: So it's been it's been fun. We're looking forward to 300 00:16:44,240 --> 00:16:48,120 Speaker 1: maybe the next court. We're looking to We're making some 301 00:16:48,160 --> 00:16:51,960 Speaker 1: processes with our foundation and things like that to be 302 00:16:52,000 --> 00:16:55,280 Speaker 1: able to accelerate the next court. You know, we'll get 303 00:16:55,280 --> 00:16:58,280 Speaker 1: there and we'll have some announcements coming soon. But no, 304 00:16:58,400 --> 00:17:01,080 Speaker 1: it's been fun, and I'm very grateful shout out to 305 00:17:01,120 --> 00:17:04,280 Speaker 1: Duraliday the JLH Fund for him that he's only here 306 00:17:04,320 --> 00:17:06,240 Speaker 1: for two years. I've been here for ten, so it 307 00:17:06,280 --> 00:17:08,919 Speaker 1: makes more sense he was only here for two and 308 00:17:09,000 --> 00:17:11,440 Speaker 1: invested that type of capital into the City of Boston 309 00:17:12,080 --> 00:17:14,240 Speaker 1: and that just says a lot about him and Lauren 310 00:17:14,640 --> 00:17:18,280 Speaker 1: and their character, which I speak very very highly of. 311 00:17:19,160 --> 00:17:21,919 Speaker 2: So do you plan to do another rounded applicants for 312 00:17:21,960 --> 00:17:24,159 Speaker 2: the incubator and is there a timeline for that? 313 00:17:24,440 --> 00:17:25,120 Speaker 3: I think we do. 314 00:17:25,440 --> 00:17:28,119 Speaker 1: Yeah, we don't have a timeline as of yet, you know, 315 00:17:29,520 --> 00:17:33,760 Speaker 1: but soon we'll be able to release some details about 316 00:17:33,840 --> 00:17:36,119 Speaker 1: like what's coming next. But you know, it would be 317 00:17:36,160 --> 00:17:38,200 Speaker 1: great to be able to do another coard and continue 318 00:17:38,240 --> 00:17:41,479 Speaker 1: to build out, you know, the vision throughout you know, 319 00:17:42,400 --> 00:17:46,760 Speaker 1: over a span of time. But you know, we're we're 320 00:17:46,760 --> 00:17:49,840 Speaker 1: working out the strategy and always trying to figure out 321 00:17:49,840 --> 00:17:52,440 Speaker 1: how to make and improve things and make it better 322 00:17:52,520 --> 00:17:53,160 Speaker 1: and more. 323 00:17:54,640 --> 00:17:57,800 Speaker 3: More efficient. So that's what we're working on now. Uh. 324 00:17:57,920 --> 00:17:59,520 Speaker 2: And you touched on this event and this may be 325 00:17:59,560 --> 00:18:02,119 Speaker 2: the the research that you were referencing, But in twenty fifteen, 326 00:18:02,160 --> 00:18:05,359 Speaker 2: the Federal Reserve Bank of Boston published a very influential 327 00:18:05,400 --> 00:18:08,439 Speaker 2: study that found the typical white household in Boston has 328 00:18:08,440 --> 00:18:11,080 Speaker 2: a median wealth of nearly two hundred and fifty thousand dollars, 329 00:18:11,119 --> 00:18:14,280 Speaker 2: compared to just eight dollars for US born blacks and 330 00:18:14,400 --> 00:18:18,320 Speaker 2: zero dollars for Dominicans non white households were significantly less 331 00:18:18,359 --> 00:18:21,680 Speaker 2: likely to own homes or stocks than white households. How 332 00:18:21,880 --> 00:18:25,600 Speaker 2: have you seen that kind of wealth disparity reflected yourself 333 00:18:25,640 --> 00:18:27,960 Speaker 2: when you're out and talking to people in Boston and 334 00:18:28,040 --> 00:18:29,160 Speaker 2: meeting with people. 335 00:18:30,040 --> 00:18:33,879 Speaker 1: It reflects outside of the city even more like that, 336 00:18:33,960 --> 00:18:38,280 Speaker 1: because that becomes the perception of Boston. Because like when 337 00:18:38,280 --> 00:18:43,160 Speaker 1: you talk about you know, when people start using words 338 00:18:43,200 --> 00:18:48,120 Speaker 1: like racism, like most people think that it's like, you know, 339 00:18:48,200 --> 00:18:51,280 Speaker 1: a color dynamic, but it's a power dynamic more than anything. 340 00:18:51,400 --> 00:18:57,199 Speaker 1: Like you know, the analytics of opportunities and resources, the 341 00:18:57,200 --> 00:19:01,600 Speaker 1: analytics educationally, the fighting, the wealth gap, the incarceration rate, 342 00:19:02,200 --> 00:19:07,920 Speaker 1: you know, the acquisition to housing, who's available. These are 343 00:19:07,920 --> 00:19:11,679 Speaker 1: the things that kind of make up that dynamic. So 344 00:19:11,720 --> 00:19:14,840 Speaker 1: when you look at the analytics of something like racism, 345 00:19:14,960 --> 00:19:17,680 Speaker 1: these are the type of things that you gotta look at, 346 00:19:18,040 --> 00:19:21,760 Speaker 1: not just like what's being said online or whatever the 347 00:19:21,800 --> 00:19:23,119 Speaker 1: case may be. And these are the things that I 348 00:19:23,200 --> 00:19:27,119 Speaker 1: want to push Boston to continue to be betteran But 349 00:19:27,800 --> 00:19:29,960 Speaker 1: because of those things, because of the articles like that, 350 00:19:30,480 --> 00:19:33,480 Speaker 1: Boston gets the perception that it does before you even 351 00:19:33,560 --> 00:19:35,560 Speaker 1: get to the city. These are the things that you 352 00:19:35,680 --> 00:19:39,000 Speaker 1: hear so to be able to work with the mayor 353 00:19:39,040 --> 00:19:41,879 Speaker 1: or the governor, be able to use my platform in 354 00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:46,480 Speaker 1: order to build a solution to some of the issues 355 00:19:46,520 --> 00:19:49,040 Speaker 1: that are going on in the city. In any way 356 00:19:49,040 --> 00:19:51,560 Speaker 1: that I can contribute to my society or any way 357 00:19:51,560 --> 00:19:55,920 Speaker 1: I can contribute to the community, I'm always looking for ways. 358 00:19:55,640 --> 00:19:56,160 Speaker 3: To do that. 359 00:19:56,680 --> 00:19:59,320 Speaker 1: You know, That's just kind of how I was raised. 360 00:19:59,320 --> 00:20:03,280 Speaker 1: My grandmother kind of raised us to be like that. 361 00:20:03,359 --> 00:20:08,560 Speaker 1: I'll watched her, you know, be community driven and things 362 00:20:08,600 --> 00:20:12,480 Speaker 1: like that, go knock on people's doors and fight for people, 363 00:20:12,560 --> 00:20:15,280 Speaker 1: to help the people that she was fighting for. You know, 364 00:20:15,440 --> 00:20:19,200 Speaker 1: like if that made did I said, all right, So 365 00:20:19,200 --> 00:20:23,879 Speaker 1: so anytime I can make a contribution to my community, 366 00:20:24,240 --> 00:20:25,760 Speaker 1: I'm looking for I'm looking. 367 00:20:25,480 --> 00:20:25,920 Speaker 3: To do that. 368 00:20:26,440 --> 00:20:28,960 Speaker 2: And in recent years, we have seen, to your point, 369 00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:32,720 Speaker 2: a number of organizations announce commitments to economic equity, but 370 00:20:32,760 --> 00:20:37,159 Speaker 2: we have also seen organizations pull back from or recast diversity, 371 00:20:37,280 --> 00:20:41,760 Speaker 2: equity and inclusion initiatives, particularly recently with President Donald Trump's 372 00:20:41,760 --> 00:20:45,440 Speaker 2: crackdown on such programs. Can you talk about what you're 373 00:20:45,480 --> 00:20:48,879 Speaker 2: seeing in the broader investment community and do you feel 374 00:20:48,880 --> 00:20:53,640 Speaker 2: like you're seeing tangible forward momentum from you know, financial 375 00:20:53,640 --> 00:20:56,600 Speaker 2: institutions in particular and making the economy more equitable and 376 00:20:56,800 --> 00:20:58,400 Speaker 2: helping to close that racial wealth gap. 377 00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:01,600 Speaker 3: Asked me that question one more time. 378 00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:05,840 Speaker 2: Just as you've seen, you know, different organizations pull back 379 00:21:06,160 --> 00:21:09,439 Speaker 2: from DEI, how how are you seeing that manifest or 380 00:21:09,480 --> 00:21:13,480 Speaker 2: are you still seeing positive forward momentum from financial institutions 381 00:21:13,480 --> 00:21:14,080 Speaker 2: in particular. 382 00:21:14,480 --> 00:21:15,600 Speaker 3: So I've heard a lot of things. 383 00:21:15,640 --> 00:21:18,640 Speaker 1: I haven't seen anything personally, because in my line of work, 384 00:21:18,880 --> 00:21:24,200 Speaker 1: you know, DEI doesn't It's it's not an I don't. 385 00:21:24,520 --> 00:21:26,679 Speaker 1: I wouldn't say that it's something that is I I 386 00:21:26,680 --> 00:21:29,720 Speaker 1: guess it is to some degree from staffing, et. 387 00:21:29,680 --> 00:21:34,800 Speaker 3: Cetera, but I would I don't know. I I don't know. 388 00:21:34,720 --> 00:21:39,960 Speaker 1: What financial institutions are are are looking to do. You know, 389 00:21:40,080 --> 00:21:42,040 Speaker 1: from everything I've heard, they just kind of want to 390 00:21:42,040 --> 00:21:44,320 Speaker 1: wait it out until it goes Two things changed, But 391 00:21:45,400 --> 00:21:47,960 Speaker 1: I'm not sure if I'm best equipped to answer that one. 392 00:21:48,280 --> 00:21:51,639 Speaker 2: You're also the vice president of the National Basketball Players 393 00:21:51,680 --> 00:21:54,520 Speaker 2: Association and you've been in that role since twenty nineteen. 394 00:21:54,720 --> 00:21:57,000 Speaker 2: Why is it important to you to to stay in 395 00:21:57,040 --> 00:21:58,679 Speaker 2: a leadership role in that organization? 396 00:21:59,400 --> 00:22:01,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's it's one of my favorite roles that I've 397 00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:06,440 Speaker 1: been in from I became the vice president at twenty 398 00:22:06,480 --> 00:22:08,320 Speaker 1: years old and I'm twenty nine now, so I've been 399 00:22:08,359 --> 00:22:11,480 Speaker 1: on the board for nine years and I've learned so much, 400 00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:14,480 Speaker 1: the ins and outs, what goes behind closed doors and 401 00:22:14,560 --> 00:22:18,400 Speaker 1: major corporations, the NBA, etc. I can tell you at all, 402 00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:21,000 Speaker 1: you know, I've sat on calls, I've been across I've 403 00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:23,440 Speaker 1: been in a room. But with Adam Silva, the team 404 00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:26,679 Speaker 1: of lawyers, they got one hundred plus lawyers working on 405 00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:32,240 Speaker 1: the next CBA we got two, So the amount of resources, etc. 406 00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:35,520 Speaker 1: But the players are more involved than they've ever been 407 00:22:36,119 --> 00:22:38,480 Speaker 1: in terms of past. I think they understand the importance 408 00:22:38,520 --> 00:22:41,680 Speaker 1: of player value. I think this generation is finally starting 409 00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:45,160 Speaker 1: to understand the power of like group economics and understanding 410 00:22:45,280 --> 00:22:49,800 Speaker 1: like your value and how much value you obtain. Because 411 00:22:49,800 --> 00:22:51,800 Speaker 1: in the past that just that knowledge has been kind 412 00:22:51,840 --> 00:22:54,639 Speaker 1: of obsolete or the care just hasn't been there. But 413 00:22:54,720 --> 00:22:59,080 Speaker 1: I think that's changing. So I've learned a lot from 414 00:22:59,080 --> 00:23:01,919 Speaker 1: my ten yere at the union and things like that. 415 00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:09,840 Speaker 1: It's been an interesting journeys. Yeah, it's been frustrating at 416 00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:13,080 Speaker 1: points of time, you know, and things that I still 417 00:23:13,119 --> 00:23:19,080 Speaker 1: think that players should get access to. But I'm appreciative 418 00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:21,920 Speaker 1: of my journey. I've learned a lot from a business standpoint. 419 00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:28,200 Speaker 2: NBA franchise valuations have skyrocketed in recent years since that 420 00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:31,199 Speaker 2: that last CVA was signed, including the six point one 421 00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:33,920 Speaker 2: billion dollar purchase struck last year for the Boston Celtics 422 00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:36,400 Speaker 2: the ten billion dollar deal for the Los Angeles Lakers. 423 00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:40,560 Speaker 2: Do you think those rising valuations are appropriately reflected in 424 00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:42,360 Speaker 2: how athletes are getting paid? 425 00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:47,240 Speaker 3: No? Oh, Cia way. 426 00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:51,520 Speaker 2: Do you think the rising valuations are appropriately reflected in 427 00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:54,879 Speaker 2: how players are getting paid? Or do you think something 428 00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:58,760 Speaker 2: needs to change in that formula to reflect you know, 429 00:23:58,880 --> 00:24:00,679 Speaker 2: just how you. 430 00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:04,880 Speaker 1: Answer, right, my answers knows what I think needs to change. 431 00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:06,720 Speaker 1: I think players should and this is one of the 432 00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:08,879 Speaker 1: things I was mentioning that causes some of the frustration. 433 00:24:09,320 --> 00:24:10,720 Speaker 3: I think players should be able to. 434 00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:16,040 Speaker 1: Invest alongside in in ownership groups and business opportunities. Like 435 00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:18,479 Speaker 1: I don't understand why that's ever been a thing, but 436 00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:21,560 Speaker 1: it's like your athlete, and it's they make it seem like, 437 00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:25,320 Speaker 1: you know, they they can control how much wealth or 438 00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:27,119 Speaker 1: growth that you could actually accumulate. 439 00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:30,200 Speaker 3: I think that's wrong. I also think that, just like. 440 00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:35,879 Speaker 1: Any other major corporation, like when you are if you 441 00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:38,399 Speaker 1: work for Apple, or if you work for Nike, or 442 00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:40,199 Speaker 1: if you work for any like if you're a CEO, 443 00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:43,080 Speaker 1: if you're someone that's been on the board for a 444 00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:46,360 Speaker 1: large amount of time, you get equity in the company 445 00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:49,000 Speaker 1: at some point, like you are a part of it. 446 00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:51,679 Speaker 1: And I think athletes should be looked at it in 447 00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:54,239 Speaker 1: the same way, like you play for the Celtics for 448 00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:58,080 Speaker 1: twenty years, like you should get you should get a 449 00:24:58,080 --> 00:25:01,840 Speaker 1: a piece of equity. And because you helped accumulate the growth, 450 00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:05,639 Speaker 1: you know, and that's the part that get lost in translation, 451 00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:10,399 Speaker 1: is the growth from an organization, you know, a growth 452 00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:14,119 Speaker 1: from a company or a corporation. You know, the sweat 453 00:25:14,119 --> 00:25:17,679 Speaker 1: equity that you put in. You get compensated just like 454 00:25:17,840 --> 00:25:21,040 Speaker 1: for doing your job, but you don't get compensated for 455 00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:24,120 Speaker 1: the growth and the major corporations and companies you do, 456 00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:27,359 Speaker 1: or at least some of the big ones, you know. 457 00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:32,560 Speaker 1: So that's something that you know, I would propose, I 458 00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:36,320 Speaker 1: have proposed, but you know, we'll see. We got another 459 00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:37,800 Speaker 1: CBA coming up. 460 00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:40,399 Speaker 2: I mean, this is an idea that's gained a lot 461 00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:43,640 Speaker 2: of traction recently in private equity too, you know, Pete 462 00:25:43,640 --> 00:25:45,960 Speaker 2: Staubras at KKR has been a big proponent of this 463 00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:49,720 Speaker 2: that if you give rank and file employees players, whatever 464 00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:52,560 Speaker 2: it might be, equity, they'll doyn't care more about the 465 00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:54,879 Speaker 2: success of the company, they'll be more invested in it. 466 00:25:55,920 --> 00:25:57,960 Speaker 2: You said, you know something you proposed. Do you feel 467 00:25:58,000 --> 00:26:00,639 Speaker 2: like it is gaining more traction among others players? Do 468 00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:02,800 Speaker 2: you hear it talked about more among your colleagues? 469 00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:06,720 Speaker 1: No, I think the NBA shuts it down any chance 470 00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:08,760 Speaker 1: to get I mean, when it comes down to it, 471 00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:15,040 Speaker 1: it's all about leverage and as players, we're still building 472 00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:16,560 Speaker 1: our levers getting on the same page. 473 00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:18,000 Speaker 3: So you know, even if. 474 00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:19,880 Speaker 1: It's the right idea, if it's the right thing to do, 475 00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:22,720 Speaker 1: it won't matter to the NBA unless we all come 476 00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:24,639 Speaker 1: on to the same page. They're not gonna do it 477 00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:27,800 Speaker 1: unless we tell them this is what we want. So 478 00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:30,080 Speaker 1: from a player standpoint, we just got to get more 479 00:26:30,119 --> 00:26:32,840 Speaker 1: collectively on the same page. And I think it's the 480 00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:40,200 Speaker 1: future is. You know, the possibilities are endless, but you know, nobody, 481 00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:43,600 Speaker 1: nobody wants to pay anybody these days. Everybody wants to, 482 00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:45,919 Speaker 1: you know, take as much of the piece of the 483 00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:50,439 Speaker 1: pod as they possibly can. And that's just how business 484 00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:53,000 Speaker 1: in America and capitalism has worked. 485 00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:54,960 Speaker 3: So until we can kind of like. 486 00:26:56,480 --> 00:26:59,400 Speaker 1: Get on the same page and formulate what we want, 487 00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:01,840 Speaker 1: when we wanted, and how we want it to look, 488 00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:04,359 Speaker 1: you know, nothing will change. 489 00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:08,320 Speaker 2: So when the next round of negotiations does get underway 490 00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:10,240 Speaker 2: and you have those other one hundred lawyers on the 491 00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:12,760 Speaker 2: other side, is this something that you're gonna advocate for 492 00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:14,600 Speaker 2: and push for as part of those negotiations. 493 00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:16,600 Speaker 3: Yeah. 494 00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:20,080 Speaker 1: Absolutely, we would have some other steps that, you know, 495 00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:23,760 Speaker 1: we would need to We would have some other things 496 00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:27,000 Speaker 1: that we would need to do before that, because there's 497 00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:29,040 Speaker 1: a you know, it's a lot of things that we 498 00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:30,960 Speaker 1: have on the list that we talk about. We had 499 00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:33,520 Speaker 1: a call today that we talked about some things, so 500 00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:38,520 Speaker 1: you know, whatever comes next in that kind of pecking 501 00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:42,399 Speaker 1: order of like arrangements, but that's something that's definitely big, 502 00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:45,439 Speaker 1: you know that we would love to you know, be 503 00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:49,399 Speaker 1: able to accomplish in the future the next generation of 504 00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:52,120 Speaker 1: our NBA players and our athletes, be able to invest 505 00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:55,240 Speaker 1: alongside ownership groups, especially. 506 00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:57,320 Speaker 3: In the in. 507 00:27:56,520 --> 00:28:00,760 Speaker 1: The development because it's already like the results are already 508 00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:03,439 Speaker 1: baked in, you know, they already know it's gonna be 509 00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:05,879 Speaker 1: people that's gonna be in these seats. You already know 510 00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:07,840 Speaker 1: the game schedule, you already know what your return is 511 00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:10,359 Speaker 1: gonna be. Players who are a part of that should 512 00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:13,440 Speaker 1: be able to be included to some degree. Okay, see, 513 00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:18,520 Speaker 1: just built a huge arena like recently, and those players 514 00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:23,800 Speaker 1: that won the championship, they're a huge reason why you know, 515 00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:26,720 Speaker 1: they were able to make that into like a top market, 516 00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:30,000 Speaker 1: et cetera. It's a championship organization, So the players should 517 00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:33,520 Speaker 1: be included to some degree. And I don't think it 518 00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:36,480 Speaker 1: should be I don't think it should be rocket science either. 519 00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:40,360 Speaker 2: More broadly, do you see sports teams as something that 520 00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:43,200 Speaker 2: you would want to invest in, even outside of the 521 00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:44,600 Speaker 2: NBA sports teams? 522 00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:47,880 Speaker 3: Me, I don't know. I'm a union guy. 523 00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:49,800 Speaker 1: I don't you know, so I don't know if I 524 00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:53,320 Speaker 1: could be on the other side, Well I'm taking you know, 525 00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:55,000 Speaker 1: I'm taking the liberties. 526 00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:59,200 Speaker 2: Or for further afield, NFL or hockey or soccer. 527 00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:00,000 Speaker 3: What have you. 528 00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:04,200 Speaker 1: Maybe you know, I love sports, so opportunities have come 529 00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:07,920 Speaker 1: a board, you know, in different leagues and different as 530 00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:10,480 Speaker 1: socially they run differently like and things like that. You 531 00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:14,240 Speaker 1: have you know, Premier League is different from the Champions League. 532 00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:19,040 Speaker 1: Like Barcelona runs their organization different from Arsenal. You know, Barcelona, 533 00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:23,200 Speaker 1: they run their organization like a democracy where it's no 534 00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:26,760 Speaker 1: like the fans vote for who gets to run, so 535 00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:31,760 Speaker 1: like depends. But you know, every situations are different than 536 00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:33,400 Speaker 1: how things are done. 537 00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:34,640 Speaker 3: Here in the US and NBA. 538 00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:38,360 Speaker 1: But I don't know if I could be an NBA 539 00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:42,480 Speaker 1: owner or anything like that because I spend too much 540 00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:45,360 Speaker 1: time on the union fighting for you know, to be 541 00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:47,760 Speaker 1: weird to kind of switch up fair enough. 542 00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:52,000 Speaker 2: The NBA expects to make a decision regarding expansion sometime 543 00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:55,040 Speaker 2: this year, with Las Vegas and Seattle favored as potential 544 00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:57,840 Speaker 2: new franchises. Do you think this is a good idea 545 00:29:57,960 --> 00:29:59,200 Speaker 2: from a player's perspective. 546 00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:03,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I pitched in like twenty twenty two 547 00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:08,760 Speaker 1: that we should have an expansion team owned by the players. 548 00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:14,080 Speaker 1: I think it fell on deaf ears, but that would 549 00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:16,600 Speaker 1: be a It's something that I would like to see 550 00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:20,000 Speaker 1: as they're continuing to expand, an expansion team that would 551 00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:26,120 Speaker 1: be owned the br would be split amongst maybe retired players, 552 00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:31,600 Speaker 1: current players, and maybe even WNBA, et cetera. And this 553 00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:35,320 Speaker 1: expansion team that will be able to, you know, correct 554 00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:40,160 Speaker 1: a lot of the you know, the frustration and divisional 555 00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:43,920 Speaker 1: stuff that we talk about from a br standpoint, et cetera, 556 00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:46,840 Speaker 1: not being able to invest, not being able to be 557 00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:52,280 Speaker 1: included when companies are, when organizations get sold, and things 558 00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:55,080 Speaker 1: like that. And the athletes who put into work the 559 00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:59,480 Speaker 1: sweat equity have an expansion team owned by the players. 560 00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:04,040 Speaker 1: Could be could be something, could be something interesting. You know, 561 00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:09,040 Speaker 1: I think that that could be cool. Obviously, the union 562 00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:11,280 Speaker 1: or we have to push some parameters around some things. 563 00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:14,920 Speaker 1: But you know, I've brought that idea up a few 564 00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:17,720 Speaker 1: times over over the past few years, just I don't 565 00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:20,000 Speaker 1: think we've had the leverage enough to execute it. But 566 00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:23,360 Speaker 1: you know, things change over time. Maybe we circle back 567 00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:26,960 Speaker 1: to it. But you know, that idea actually came from 568 00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:30,720 Speaker 1: Andre Andre Woodalla. You know, we were in the meeting 569 00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:33,280 Speaker 1: and we were kind of bouncing that off each other. 570 00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:34,120 Speaker 3: But Andre. 571 00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:37,720 Speaker 1: Pitch that I think maybe that's something that we should 572 00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:39,760 Speaker 1: push for, and maybe now that he's in the executive 573 00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:42,600 Speaker 1: director position at the union, maybe that's something in the 574 00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:43,960 Speaker 1: next few years that we do push for. 575 00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:48,240 Speaker 2: In the college arena, athletes can now earn money from 576 00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:51,440 Speaker 2: endorsements and appearances, and they can also get paid directly 577 00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:55,000 Speaker 2: by universities. What impact have you seen from that shift 578 00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:57,720 Speaker 2: on the next generation of athletes coming into the NBA 579 00:31:57,960 --> 00:32:00,400 Speaker 2: and how they view themselves as business. 580 00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:02,760 Speaker 3: I think it's changing lives, honestly. 581 00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:06,720 Speaker 1: I mean, there's uh, obviously a lot of uh, there's 582 00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:08,880 Speaker 1: a there's a lot of yellow tape around, you know, 583 00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:19,200 Speaker 1: kind of the the the aspects of amateur players, amateur 584 00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:23,320 Speaker 1: athletes and their name, image and likeness and how it's 585 00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:27,000 Speaker 1: being negotiated and deals and contracts that are taking place 586 00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:30,560 Speaker 1: with families, et cetera. But like players that may never 587 00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:34,760 Speaker 1: get to the NBA, are you know, becoming millionaires and 588 00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:40,000 Speaker 1: starting their life with six plus figures. It's just, you know, 589 00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:43,760 Speaker 1: before when players were going to college and they were 590 00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:45,440 Speaker 1: graduating with a degree that had nothing to show for, 591 00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:49,040 Speaker 1: they're probably in more debt than they were, you know, 592 00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:51,480 Speaker 1: before they went to college. So to be able to 593 00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:55,920 Speaker 1: have and navigate your experience and give yourself a potential 594 00:32:56,320 --> 00:32:58,720 Speaker 1: avenue to make money while you're in college and take 595 00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:01,960 Speaker 1: care of your family and more give yourself a like 596 00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:05,200 Speaker 1: just a boost on life, you know. I think it's changed. 597 00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:07,360 Speaker 1: It's changed the game for a lot of people. So 598 00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:13,640 Speaker 1: obviously that comes with it comes with some things that 599 00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:16,680 Speaker 1: aren't great because you see some things that are happening 600 00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:17,800 Speaker 1: we were talking about today. 601 00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:19,640 Speaker 3: You get players get taken. 602 00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:23,800 Speaker 1: Advantage of because you know, maybe management or agency groups 603 00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:27,520 Speaker 1: are offering them things when they're in college to take 604 00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:29,600 Speaker 1: this deal in order for them to be their representation. 605 00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:32,520 Speaker 1: Like they're signing like three sixty deals when they're like 606 00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:38,960 Speaker 1: sixteen seventeen years old, which is problematic, But overall, I 607 00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:44,000 Speaker 1: think being able to have financial security throughout your college 608 00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:49,000 Speaker 1: experience is super important. Like you know, you know, being 609 00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:54,040 Speaker 1: in debt after you graduate. I know it's a lot 610 00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:56,160 Speaker 1: of people that probably had that feeling. It's not great 611 00:33:56,560 --> 00:33:59,160 Speaker 1: and I haven't experienced it, but I know my family members, 612 00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:01,840 Speaker 1: you know, and stuff like that, we've had to experience 613 00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:03,680 Speaker 1: that the start on life and that hanging. 614 00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:03,960 Speaker 3: Over your head. 615 00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:06,760 Speaker 1: So as an athlete in different sports that you play, 616 00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:08,680 Speaker 1: to be able to have an input and be able 617 00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:11,120 Speaker 1: to make revenue, I think it changes the game for 618 00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:12,080 Speaker 1: a lot of our athletes. 619 00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:16,400 Speaker 2: Part of the Boston Exchange when you announced it was 620 00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:20,359 Speaker 2: to have physical space available to help support the entrepreneurs 621 00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:23,880 Speaker 2: that came into that incubator accelerator program and their business 622 00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:28,160 Speaker 2: aspirations and to really cultivate an innovation ecosystem. Can you 623 00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:30,560 Speaker 2: talk about that goal and why it was part of 624 00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:32,040 Speaker 2: the Boston Exchange. 625 00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:36,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think having a space is important, but it's 626 00:34:36,160 --> 00:34:38,600 Speaker 1: not the easiest thing to culminate because you know, a 627 00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:41,040 Speaker 1: lot of times, a lot of businesses are online, a 628 00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:44,520 Speaker 1: lot of people are using technology and AI, so you 629 00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:46,239 Speaker 1: don't want to pay for a space and it's not 630 00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:51,239 Speaker 1: getting used. So you make decisions and you evaluate whether 631 00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:55,560 Speaker 1: if that is a you know, if that is a 632 00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:57,359 Speaker 1: great decision, or if it isn't. 633 00:34:57,560 --> 00:34:57,759 Speaker 3: You know. 634 00:34:57,880 --> 00:35:00,400 Speaker 1: So I think we'll eventually have a space, it just 635 00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:02,680 Speaker 1: wasn't the right time. Like right now, as we're continuing 636 00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:05,279 Speaker 1: to get started, we find people have donated space and 637 00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:08,160 Speaker 1: allocated space for some of our people of our core 638 00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:11,520 Speaker 1: to use and things like that that have been fantastic 639 00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:15,440 Speaker 1: and I appreciate our partners for that. But eventually, you know, 640 00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:16,920 Speaker 1: it'd be nice to have our own space, but we 641 00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:18,560 Speaker 1: just want to make sure it's on the right terms. 642 00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:22,719 Speaker 2: You also expanded the Exchange to California's Bay Area, where 643 00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:26,440 Speaker 2: you attended the University of California at Berkeley in partnership 644 00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:29,720 Speaker 2: with Dallas Mavericks coach Jason Kidd. How is that going 645 00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:32,760 Speaker 2: and what insights have you gained when comparing the programs 646 00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:34,000 Speaker 2: across the two coasts. 647 00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:38,719 Speaker 1: Yeah, Oakland is it's different. It's you know, a long 648 00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:42,640 Speaker 1: flight from Boston, but you know some of the things 649 00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:48,080 Speaker 1: that Boston has, you know, is dealing with or needs. 650 00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:50,040 Speaker 3: Help or improving on. So it is Oakland. 651 00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:54,680 Speaker 1: You know, major cities, not major cities all across the 652 00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:56,839 Speaker 1: US are kind of all together. 653 00:35:57,040 --> 00:35:58,359 Speaker 3: Kind of suffering the same thing. 654 00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:02,440 Speaker 1: Like where the crime rate is higher in those areas. 655 00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:06,400 Speaker 1: It's a lot of you know, abandonment and things like 656 00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:09,200 Speaker 1: that for whatever reason. I'm not completely sure. 657 00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:10,680 Speaker 3: Why, but. 658 00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:16,719 Speaker 1: The the minority community is just the lack of opportunity 659 00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:19,400 Speaker 1: and resources and things like that when it comes to 660 00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:21,799 Speaker 1: these you know, major cities and things like that. So 661 00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:27,080 Speaker 1: to be able to and to provide some resources to 662 00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:31,160 Speaker 1: probably some partners that could you know, provide some opportunities 663 00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:34,279 Speaker 1: and also provide that social capital so you know, they 664 00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:36,960 Speaker 1: can start getting into different doors as well. It's important. 665 00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:39,440 Speaker 1: Some of it, it's happenstance. I believe in some of it, 666 00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:41,600 Speaker 1: I think might be a little intentional. Oakland is a 667 00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:42,760 Speaker 1: little different from Boston. 668 00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:47,960 Speaker 3: You know, I think that I don't I don't know 669 00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:48,160 Speaker 3: how I. 670 00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:51,560 Speaker 1: Would explain my words without you know, but I think 671 00:36:51,640 --> 00:36:54,280 Speaker 1: it could be. You know, I think some of it 672 00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:58,200 Speaker 1: is a little bit intentional. Those areas get diminished, the 673 00:36:58,239 --> 00:37:01,319 Speaker 1: crime rate goes up, the property vale goes down, and 674 00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:06,840 Speaker 1: you those buildings get turned into luxury homes and you 675 00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:10,160 Speaker 1: know those that's kind of like the business model approach, 676 00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:19,080 Speaker 1: where there is distressed asset, there is opportunity, and those 677 00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:22,040 Speaker 1: distressed assets just happen to be people that come from 678 00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:27,719 Speaker 1: communities such as mine, in communities that you know, unfamiliar with. 679 00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:35,600 Speaker 1: So you know, that's capitalism, but it lacks the empathy 680 00:37:36,239 --> 00:37:39,279 Speaker 1: that is needed for these communities. In these spaces that 681 00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:45,480 Speaker 1: people have spent their livelihoods, people have born, they built connections, 682 00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:49,840 Speaker 1: you know, they grew up, and that's the part that 683 00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:51,680 Speaker 1: that's the story that doesn't get told. 684 00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:56,600 Speaker 2: You started live streaming on Twitch last summer, and you've 685 00:37:56,640 --> 00:37:59,280 Speaker 2: continued to do so through the season, and we actually 686 00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:03,399 Speaker 2: streamed part of this conversation on your Twitch channel. Can 687 00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:07,120 Speaker 2: you talk about what motivated that decision and why you've 688 00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:09,160 Speaker 2: chosen to do that on that platform. 689 00:38:09,600 --> 00:38:14,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, I've said it before, I think, you know, I've thought. 690 00:38:14,120 --> 00:38:16,279 Speaker 3: About it the past few days, like. 691 00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:19,120 Speaker 1: Having your own Having my own Twitch this year is 692 00:38:19,120 --> 00:38:22,239 Speaker 1: almost like having my own media platform. It's like I 693 00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:24,319 Speaker 1: have my own media platform where I could put out 694 00:38:24,640 --> 00:38:28,040 Speaker 1: the information that takes that I see fit and I 695 00:38:28,040 --> 00:38:30,960 Speaker 1: think that's value. I mean, I think that's a tre 696 00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:33,640 Speaker 1: menous value. People chime in. I have people from all 697 00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:36,560 Speaker 1: over the world that come to just hear me talk 698 00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:39,719 Speaker 1: about whatever, or you know, to come watch me play 699 00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:42,520 Speaker 1: basketball or video games or what. So I've built a 700 00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:47,280 Speaker 1: own form of media platform slash marketing where I can, 701 00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:48,320 Speaker 1: you know. 702 00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:50,520 Speaker 3: Get directly to the people who want to. 703 00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:55,160 Speaker 1: It just kind of gets rid of the middleman, right 704 00:38:55,160 --> 00:38:58,000 Speaker 1: because the other media marketing companies, they have angles, they 705 00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:01,319 Speaker 1: have agendas, they have quotas that they're trying to meet. 706 00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:03,600 Speaker 1: They might not serve me, They might not be in 707 00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:06,680 Speaker 1: the best interest in me, that might not care for, 708 00:39:08,040 --> 00:39:12,000 Speaker 1: you know, for how I feel. 709 00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:16,640 Speaker 3: So I kinda started getting. 710 00:39:16,400 --> 00:39:19,640 Speaker 1: Tired of it, you know, so I just know what 711 00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:23,239 Speaker 1: I'm gonna start streaming, and then now I can talk 712 00:39:23,320 --> 00:39:26,560 Speaker 1: to these people and now you can hear directly from 713 00:39:26,600 --> 00:39:30,160 Speaker 1: me rather than you hearing a reporter asked me a 714 00:39:30,239 --> 00:39:32,880 Speaker 1: question that I didn't want to answer in the first place. 715 00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:36,080 Speaker 1: Now it comes off to you is if I have 716 00:39:36,120 --> 00:39:38,719 Speaker 1: an attitude, or if I'm arrogant, or if I'm just 717 00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:42,560 Speaker 1: not a nice guy. But in reality, is if I 718 00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:45,840 Speaker 1: answer a question truthfully, They're just gonna take a segment 719 00:39:45,880 --> 00:39:49,360 Speaker 1: of it and they're gonna put it on their platform 720 00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:52,279 Speaker 1: as a headline, and that's the only thing you're gonna see, and. 721 00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:53,080 Speaker 3: It's gonna be negative. 722 00:39:53,719 --> 00:39:56,920 Speaker 1: And now I gotta deal with the negativity from that. 723 00:39:57,080 --> 00:40:00,440 Speaker 1: And that's just a state of media of today, especially 724 00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:04,280 Speaker 1: in sports, where it's just ridiculous. Everything is clickbait, everything 725 00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:08,920 Speaker 1: is headlines, everything is negativity, everything is controversy. So it's like, 726 00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:13,480 Speaker 1: maybe it's because nothing positive sales, nothing positive is interesting 727 00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:18,239 Speaker 1: enough anymore, so everything is turned to just straight negativity 728 00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:25,120 Speaker 1: and that's all people I'm looking for, and it is tiring, 729 00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:27,160 Speaker 1: you know, I'm tired. 730 00:40:29,239 --> 00:40:31,440 Speaker 3: So I just I started streaming. 731 00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:34,480 Speaker 1: So now people can get a real feel of like 732 00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:37,759 Speaker 1: what I'm thinking about a topic, or they can hear 733 00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:40,279 Speaker 1: from me what I have to say about mental health 734 00:40:40,400 --> 00:40:43,000 Speaker 1: or what I have to say about you know, current events, 735 00:40:43,760 --> 00:40:45,560 Speaker 1: and it's new for me because I've always been a 736 00:40:45,560 --> 00:40:46,160 Speaker 1: private person. 737 00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:48,480 Speaker 3: But it's like I've actually enjoyed. It's almost been like. 738 00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:55,440 Speaker 1: Therapeutic because I didn't realize how much like having your 739 00:40:55,520 --> 00:40:59,440 Speaker 1: authentic self be able to be mirrored outwardly, how important 740 00:40:59,480 --> 00:41:03,040 Speaker 1: that is and was for you. When you constantly are 741 00:41:03,160 --> 00:41:08,719 Speaker 1: suppressing yourself because you have to protect yourself from people 742 00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:11,400 Speaker 1: who want to portray you in a negative lens or 743 00:41:12,160 --> 00:41:15,239 Speaker 1: or you know, create controversy that's not there, it kind 744 00:41:15,280 --> 00:41:16,239 Speaker 1: of diminishes your life. 745 00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:18,960 Speaker 3: It makes you smaller. 746 00:41:19,160 --> 00:41:21,799 Speaker 1: So when I've started streaming, I feel so much more 747 00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:25,080 Speaker 1: at peace than I ever have, especially here in Boston. 748 00:41:26,080 --> 00:41:27,000 Speaker 3: So I'm very grateful. 749 00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:29,279 Speaker 1: And I only do it like once a week, maybe 750 00:41:29,480 --> 00:41:33,080 Speaker 1: twice a week, And I'm sure people probably want me 751 00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:37,080 Speaker 1: to stop doing that, but right now it's helping me. 752 00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:41,560 Speaker 1: So it's helping me on the course, helping us win games. 753 00:41:41,760 --> 00:41:43,239 Speaker 1: To me, so y'all want me to stop or note 754 00:41:43,280 --> 00:41:43,879 Speaker 1: what y'all want. 755 00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:49,280 Speaker 2: Me to do? Well, We've covered so many different topics today, 756 00:41:49,320 --> 00:41:51,360 Speaker 2: but I would be remiss if I didn't ask you 757 00:41:51,440 --> 00:41:55,000 Speaker 2: about your Juice Foundation, which is to bridge the opportunity 758 00:41:55,080 --> 00:41:57,520 Speaker 2: gap for youth and underserved communities, and we have a 759 00:41:57,640 --> 00:42:00,560 Speaker 2: very business focused audience here, and of the areas you 760 00:42:00,680 --> 00:42:03,840 Speaker 2: focus on with that is financial literacy. So I wondered 761 00:42:03,920 --> 00:42:07,279 Speaker 2: if you could just address why that's one of your 762 00:42:07,320 --> 00:42:10,520 Speaker 2: focuses and why that in particular is a area where 763 00:42:10,560 --> 00:42:12,239 Speaker 2: you think will help the bridge the opportunity. 764 00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:14,440 Speaker 1: So for sure, in the past, I've had two foundations. 765 00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:17,440 Speaker 1: I've had the Boston Exchange, which the text the wealth 766 00:42:17,520 --> 00:42:20,640 Speaker 1: gap and the wealth disparity and gives we have accelerated 767 00:42:20,680 --> 00:42:23,720 Speaker 1: program that gives opportunities to startups and businesses, et cetera. 768 00:42:24,200 --> 00:42:25,840 Speaker 1: And then I've had the Juice found I've had the 769 00:42:26,960 --> 00:42:30,880 Speaker 1: the Juice Foundation, which has features the Bridge program that 770 00:42:31,040 --> 00:42:32,799 Speaker 1: deals with educational opportunities. 771 00:42:33,480 --> 00:42:37,160 Speaker 3: You know, I deal with Boston Public schools. 772 00:42:36,920 --> 00:42:41,799 Speaker 1: Just reintegrating learning into you know, creating the curriculum that's 773 00:42:41,920 --> 00:42:43,640 Speaker 1: it's just a little bit more advanced in the curriculum 774 00:42:43,680 --> 00:42:51,000 Speaker 1: that gets provided by in certain areas. So education and 775 00:42:51,400 --> 00:42:54,400 Speaker 1: wealth disparity two separate things, but now we're bringing them 776 00:42:54,480 --> 00:42:58,200 Speaker 1: under one roof because that's uh, they're more connected. 777 00:42:58,239 --> 00:42:58,800 Speaker 3: They're more. 778 00:43:00,560 --> 00:43:03,440 Speaker 1: Things are more connected than you know, education and the 779 00:43:03,520 --> 00:43:05,600 Speaker 1: wealth disparity. I think some of those things are more 780 00:43:05,640 --> 00:43:07,759 Speaker 1: connected than they are a part. So I'm working on 781 00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:13,080 Speaker 1: building into one foundation, the Juice Foundation. But the Bridge 782 00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:17,200 Speaker 1: bridge is something that I uh, I guess like a 783 00:43:17,280 --> 00:43:17,920 Speaker 1: family tradition. 784 00:43:18,080 --> 00:43:20,920 Speaker 3: Education is very important to my family. 785 00:43:21,120 --> 00:43:25,920 Speaker 1: So being able to take kids that come from certain 786 00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:30,680 Speaker 1: area codes or certain districts that you know, get the 787 00:43:31,040 --> 00:43:33,120 Speaker 1: maybe the short end of the stick to some degree, 788 00:43:33,320 --> 00:43:36,759 Speaker 1: they get the least amount of resources, or they're understaffed 789 00:43:36,800 --> 00:43:41,839 Speaker 1: from a teacher standpoint, or just just the opportunities are 790 00:43:41,880 --> 00:43:44,760 Speaker 1: a lot slimmer in these areas. And we take students 791 00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:48,839 Speaker 1: who have who wanna help their community, who who really 792 00:43:49,239 --> 00:43:51,000 Speaker 1: that's really the the number one thing, they have, the 793 00:43:51,239 --> 00:43:54,200 Speaker 1: the aptitude to wanna just make the world a better place. 794 00:43:54,760 --> 00:43:56,280 Speaker 3: We find those students in those. 795 00:43:56,080 --> 00:43:59,280 Speaker 1: Areas and we we bring 'em into the Bridge program 796 00:43:59,719 --> 00:44:01,680 Speaker 1: and give them the tools and resources to go be 797 00:44:03,440 --> 00:44:05,439 Speaker 1: whatever it is that they imagine to be in this world. 798 00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:08,879 Speaker 1: But the reason for I was one of those kids, 799 00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:12,360 Speaker 1: you know, I come from a single parent household. You 800 00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:15,560 Speaker 1: grew up in a certain area codes and districts that 801 00:44:15,640 --> 00:44:19,920 Speaker 1: don't get the same educational quality that schools that are 802 00:44:19,960 --> 00:44:21,279 Speaker 1: in more affluent areas get. 803 00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:26,320 Speaker 3: The resources are more limited and things like that. 804 00:44:26,440 --> 00:44:30,040 Speaker 1: You got thirty students, thirty five students in the classroom 805 00:44:30,200 --> 00:44:30,800 Speaker 1: one teacher. 806 00:44:32,160 --> 00:44:32,480 Speaker 3: It just. 807 00:44:34,200 --> 00:44:39,080 Speaker 1: Not great analytics for success educationally. But I've always had 808 00:44:39,120 --> 00:44:41,279 Speaker 1: I've always wanted to help people. I've always wanted to 809 00:44:41,320 --> 00:44:44,160 Speaker 1: make the world a better place, and I've always loved 810 00:44:44,200 --> 00:44:49,320 Speaker 1: to learn. So those students exist regardless of the area 811 00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:53,000 Speaker 1: code or the school district they come from. And you know, 812 00:44:53,280 --> 00:44:55,319 Speaker 1: I wanna find those kids and I wanna give them 813 00:44:55,360 --> 00:44:57,800 Speaker 1: the tools that they need to be successful because I 814 00:44:57,880 --> 00:44:59,560 Speaker 1: feel like those are the those are the those are 815 00:44:59,600 --> 00:45:02,279 Speaker 1: the type of students that will you know, they have 816 00:45:02,440 --> 00:45:05,120 Speaker 1: the work ethic, they have the drive, and they have 817 00:45:05,239 --> 00:45:06,680 Speaker 1: the empathy to go. 818 00:45:06,800 --> 00:45:07,839 Speaker 3: Out and change the world. 819 00:45:08,800 --> 00:45:11,000 Speaker 1: So that's what the Bridge program, that's what we are 820 00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:14,560 Speaker 1: we're looking for, or we're looking to also find the 821 00:45:14,600 --> 00:45:20,640 Speaker 1: students who, you know, we can push into that my 822 00:45:20,800 --> 00:45:24,279 Speaker 1: frame as well, we can influence to want to change 823 00:45:24,280 --> 00:45:24,920 Speaker 1: the world as well. 824 00:45:25,120 --> 00:45:25,719 Speaker 3: Like So. 825 00:45:27,520 --> 00:45:30,960 Speaker 1: That's something that I'm very excited about. In my TEA 826 00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:32,839 Speaker 1: has been our partner for the last couple of years. 827 00:45:33,400 --> 00:45:37,240 Speaker 1: We've also a partnered We've also done with UC Berkeley 828 00:45:37,280 --> 00:45:40,399 Speaker 1: as well. But looking forward to what the future could 829 00:45:40,440 --> 00:45:45,040 Speaker 1: be educationally, and I've enjoyed being able to to work 830 00:45:45,440 --> 00:45:48,440 Speaker 1: with both of my foundations and now being able to 831 00:45:48,440 --> 00:45:51,920 Speaker 1: bring them together in some capacity should be something that. 832 00:45:53,400 --> 00:45:55,400 Speaker 3: So we have some great announcements to make in the future. 833 00:45:56,040 --> 00:45:59,200 Speaker 2: Well we'll all be staying tuned. So thank you so much, Jalen, 834 00:45:59,320 --> 00:45:59,600 Speaker 2: thank you. 835 00:46:01,040 --> 00:46:01,200 Speaker 3: Yeah.