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Speaker 2: Final Hour on this Monday, Hall of Famer Steve Young

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Speaker 2: and worst of the weekend. Once you saw that you

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Speaker 2: liked you didn't like. Saturday Night Oregon Penn State. That'll

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Speaker 3: Good morning.

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Speaker 2: If you're watching this show on Peacock, college football rams

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Speaker 2: up this next week. Now, all of a sudden it

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Speaker 2: gets really serious, led by the Penn State Oregon game.

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Speaker 2: A few surprises over the weekend. Texas Tech might be

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Speaker 2: what we think they are. They certainly got hyped. But Utah.

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Speaker 2: Most people thought Utah would win that game. Oklahoma not

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Speaker 2: going away. Miami is now number two in the country.

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Speaker 2: This is where you can take away all those preseason rankings.

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Speaker 2: Now this is the real This is where it's like, Okay,

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Speaker 2: that team is good, that team's not good, loses to Syracuse.

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Speaker 2: There now one win on the season. Indiana rolls Indiana.

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Speaker 2: Is you know we were looking for the who's the

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Speaker 2: Indiana team this year?

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Speaker 3: Like last year?

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Speaker 2: It turns out it's Indiana is the Indiana team, and

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Speaker 2: they might be better than last year. But LSU, Miami, Oregon,

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Speaker 2: Florida State, Texas, they all roll and Michigan Ghost Nebraska

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Speaker 2: ends up winning that game as well. Tonight you got

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Speaker 2: the Lions. They're getting four and a half at the Ravens.

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Speaker 2: Both teams come in at one in one wild finishes

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Speaker 2: Yesterday certainly the one o'clock games. Eagles come back, Chargers

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Speaker 2: quietly beat the Broncos, Browns over the Packers. They just

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Speaker 2: put them away. Bears over the Cowboys, Buccaneers over the Jets, Vikings.

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Speaker 2: That was impressive. That was very depressive if you're a

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Speaker 2: Bengals fan. And Mike Florio from Pro Football Talk just

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Speaker 2: joined us in studio and he said he doesn't think

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Speaker 2: spend that kind of money to bring in Kirk Cousins.

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Speaker 2: And if I'm the Falcons and I have designs on

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Speaker 2: being a playoff team, I don't know if I want

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Speaker 2: to get rid of Kirk Cousins, because he might still

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Speaker 2: be your best option after what happened yesterday, It's not

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Speaker 2: that they lost, it's they didn't score. And I always

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Speaker 2: think Atlanta is going to score. Their defense is usually

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Speaker 2: an issue. Well, both sides of the ball were an issue.

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Speaker 2: The Seahawks quietly rolling along. They didn't need much. It

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Speaker 2: was like turnovers and returns, and next thing you knew,

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Speaker 2: they were dominating that game. Chiefs over the Giants. The

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Speaker 2: booze are starting for Russell Wilson Junior the third Do

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Speaker 2: you put Jackson Dart in a home game against the

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Speaker 2: Chargers or do you wait on the road the following

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Speaker 2: week and you will be in New Orleans. But it

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Speaker 2: feels like it's inevitable that it's going to happen. You know,

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Speaker 2: the Bengals can go from two to zero to probably

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Speaker 2: two an if I look at the schedule here, So

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Speaker 2: they beat the Browns, they beat the Jags, they got

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Speaker 2: blown out yesterday, they got at the Broncos. That's a

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Speaker 2: Monday night game. Then they're hosting the Lions, They're at

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Speaker 2: the Packers, and then they host the Steelers. It doesn't

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Speaker 2: get much easier for them. And now you find out

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Speaker 2: best case scenario, Joe Burrow could be back at the

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Speaker 2: end of the regular season or start the postseason, and

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Speaker 2: my point is he might be back for the postseason,

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Speaker 2: but not a postseason in Cincinnati eight seven to seven

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Speaker 2: to three, DP show email address Dpatdanpatrick dot com, twitter

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Speaker 2: handle at DP show Pole question for the final hour

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Speaker 2: of the program. By the way, is there any bandwagon

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Speaker 2: aside from your favorite team that you're jumping on? Anybody

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Speaker 2: with me? With the Colts? Anybody on that bandwagon?

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Speaker 1: Todd?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I saw what they can do against my team,

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Speaker 4: almost every single time they get the ball.

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Speaker 5: It's hard not to believe in the calls, even after

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Speaker 3: Anybody on Chargers bandwagon that was oh wow? Okay? Front

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Speaker 3: row Paulie and Marvin, Yeah, paul.

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Speaker 6: I saw a throw. I don't know if you guys

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Speaker 6: saw this by Herbert. He got rushed and he rolled

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Speaker 3: Wait, ever, of all throws that you've ever seen, not.

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Speaker 6: As an importance, but in physical skill. I got to

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Speaker 6: show this to you and a look, and they may

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Speaker 6: don't think three guys in the world can make this throw,

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Speaker 6: Mahomes Herbert Aaron Rodgers five years ago.

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Speaker 3: Wait, this is the greatest throw that you've ever seen.

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Speaker 6: Yes, from a physical standpoint of how few people can

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Speaker 7: Yes.

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Speaker 2: By the way, Herbert is a twenty seven years, one

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Speaker 2: hundred and ninety five days, the youngest player in NFL

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Speaker 2: history to reach two thousand career completions. He did so

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Speaker 2: reach two thousand career completions to Patrick Mahomes eighty one games.

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Speaker 2: So he's the youngest to do it, and he needed

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Speaker 2: eighty two games. Mahomes needed eighty one, Yes, Todd.

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Speaker 4: Also the combination of the enthusiasm Jim Harbwell brings and

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Speaker 4: the fact that the first three games on their schedule

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Speaker 4: all division opponents, so they've already beat all of them

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Speaker 5: Them or no worse than split with their division. That's

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree, yes, Marvin, and.

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Speaker 8: I think the Chargers have the best defender of football

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Speaker 8: but on the defensive end, where he's been maybe the

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Speaker 2: Okay, so they have a quarterback who threw the greatest

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Speaker 9: And we're clearly not overrecked.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no over reaction here, yes, no recency bias, no

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Speaker 2: morning after no, no, not at all. All Right, did

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Speaker 2: we come up with a pole question for the final

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Speaker 2: hour Seaton?

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Speaker 10: Yeah, we got two of them up there right now.

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Speaker 10: This weekend's come back to haunt you game right now?

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Speaker 10: Packers Brown's still had about forty percent of that, followed

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Speaker 10: so Panthers fans, Panthers didn't make that cut, which maybe

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Speaker 10: very well. But the win of the weekend your options there, Indiana, Syracuse,

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Speaker 10: Chargers Bears Indiana got about forty four percent of that vote.

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Speaker 2: There was a moment postgame last night Chris Jones, the

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Speaker 2: it starts with her question, all right, you told.

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Speaker 11: Us that you have asked Russell Wilson multiple times for

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Speaker 9: Did you ask him again tonight?

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Speaker 3: I don't even want it.

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Speaker 9: That's all good.

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Speaker 3: I don't want it. Hey, do you know over.

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Speaker 12: Time you kind of understanding that now I don't even

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Speaker 3: Love and war.

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Speaker 2: Wow, Okay, seemed a little aggressive there that you don't

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Speaker 2: want it. Yes, Marvin, this.

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Speaker 8: Is hurting his Hall of Fame chances even more for

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Speaker 8: Russell Wilson.

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Speaker 3: He's a Hall of famer, He's going to be a

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Speaker 8: The recency bias is going to hurt him.

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Speaker 3: I know, I know. I love that.

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Speaker 2: You know the idea that we had if you reversed careers,

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Speaker 2: he's not good at all, bounced around to a couple

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Speaker 2: would look at you differently because all you're just holding

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Speaker 2: on you're washed like Russ. Whereas if you flipped it

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Speaker 3: Yes, Marvin, but.

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Speaker 8: It's gonna be tough because when you look at pro football,

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Speaker 8: you know his stats, it's going to say Seahawks than Broncos,

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Speaker 2: Is this his last time? Does Russell Wilson play for

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Speaker 2: another team?

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Speaker 6: Can he accept a backup role and backup pay?

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Speaker 9: He's not getting the reins to another franchise.

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Speaker 2: You know, okay, But is he playing on another team

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Speaker 2: a backup quarterback. See that's the amazing part with Kurt Warner.

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Speaker 2: You went from an offense that was reinventing offenses in

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Speaker 2: how did that happen? And then you have this career

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Speaker 6: Yeah, Paully, I'm gonna throw this out there. This is

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Speaker 6: a sports radio trade with almost no thought behind it.

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Speaker 6: If you're the Bengals, would you give a low ball

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Speaker 6: offer to the Giants for Russell Wilson. He's not making

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Speaker 6: a lot of money. The Giants would probably you're doing

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Speaker 6: them a favor. They could move to Jackson Dart and

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Speaker 6: with really good receivers around him.

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Speaker 3: Well, you have to believe that Russell can still play

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Speaker 3: over Jake Browning.

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Speaker 6: Yes, or you just say this season is a wash

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Speaker 6: and you're on the Bengals and we're doing nothing. But

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Speaker 6: you could send a fourth round draft a fifth round

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Speaker 6: draft pick and grab Russell Wilson right now. Yeah, and

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Speaker 6: he's out making any money.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: The Cousin's trade is a much much bigger deal financially

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Speaker 6: and salary capwise.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I wouldn't do that. I wouldn't do that.

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Speaker 2: I mean you might just hold on for dear life

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Speaker 2: with Jake Browning. Now he's he's shown that he can

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Speaker 2: play the position. He just hasn't shown that he could

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Speaker 2: play the position very well this year.

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Speaker 8: Yes, Mark, you still have Matthew Stafford going to the

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Speaker 8: Hall of Fame. Yeah, like first ballot.

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Speaker 2: I don't know about ballots, but I would say he's

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Speaker 2: Hall of Famer over time.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, because that one Pro Bowl is still.

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Speaker 2: I know, I know, and then Russ made like ten

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Speaker 2: Pro Bowls, right, Yeah, I think Matthew Stafford, Yeah, I do. Uh.

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Speaker 3: Tula in Washington, I Tula, Good.

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Speaker 13: Morning, Dan, Good morning Dennetts.

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Speaker 3: How are you great?

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Speaker 14: Good?

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Speaker 13: That's the worst of the weekend. I'm gonna pull a

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Speaker 7: Team Tampa, Team Tampa. Hey. My best of this weekend

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Speaker 3: That's Baker Mac.

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Speaker 7: Number Duca, Baker to number Duca and Buca. That's what

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Speaker 18: It's like, look, they throw the free agency is as

441
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Speaker 18: wild as ever been.

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Speaker 11: Like you throw a team together and then you just

443
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Speaker 11: you know, it's like throw the mechanic in the trunk, right,

444
00:21:47,480 --> 00:21:49,280
Speaker 11: we're gonna we're gonna figure it out as we go.

445
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Speaker 11: And so that's why I say, the first four weeks

446
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Speaker 11: you really don't know who you are. The really good

447
00:21:54,280 --> 00:21:56,639
Speaker 11: teams show up, the really bad teams show up, and

448
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Speaker 11: everyone in the middle is like, Okay, let's just hope

449
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Speaker 11: we're two and two or three one at the end

450
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Speaker 11: of this and then we'll start to figure out who

451
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Speaker 11: we are. But to me, that game, like the Cowboys

452
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Speaker 11: are just I mean, you've heard me talk about it forever.

453
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Speaker 11: They're just flawed from the top because they don't, you know,

454
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Speaker 11: the owner doesn't empower the coach to go get anything done,

455
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Speaker 11: and so it's just in the end they just flail around.

456
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Speaker 11: So I don't the Cowboys, I just whatever.

457
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Speaker 18: The Bears.

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Speaker 11: I mean, look, they have a coach that's proven offensive mine,

459
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Speaker 11: an innovative mind, and Caleb quarterbacks.

460
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Speaker 18: There's ten places like that.

461
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Speaker 11: It is more than that now because I really think

462
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Speaker 11: the league's got a lot more innovative minds thanks to

463
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Speaker 11: Kyle Shanahan and Sean McVay and Andy Reid and their

464
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Speaker 11: trees and Sean Payton. Their trees of coaches are now

465
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Speaker 11: flooded the NFL, so it's better for quarterbacks. And so

466
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Speaker 11: I think coach Johnson, I think Caleb. I think they'll

467
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Speaker 11: be a good marriage. As he's look, the coach has

468
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Speaker 11: never had a mobile quarterback before. He said, look, I've

469
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Speaker 11: never coached a mobile quarterback. Well, you know, there's things

470
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Speaker 11: that are new there. So there's that even preseason going on.

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Speaker 11: But I love what happened for the Bears yesterday. They

472
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Speaker 11: needed it and it is just a sign that there's

473
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Speaker 11: life there.

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Speaker 3: What's different with Daniel Jones.

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Speaker 18: You know when he was in New York, if you

476
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Speaker 18: think about it, when they quieted his mind down, Daniel

477
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Speaker 18: is one of those guys that's very athletic.

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Speaker 11: He thinks he can do it all. And what he

479
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Speaker 11: tries to do it all things go. You know, the

480
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Speaker 11: oil starts to fly all over there. You know, it's just,

481
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Speaker 11: you know, it's crazy. And so what he was when

482
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Speaker 11: they quieted it down and asked less and ran the

483
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Speaker 11: football and simplified things, it got better. And so I

484
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Speaker 11: think what's happened is you got to one of those

485
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Speaker 11: places where you know it's an offensive mind that clicks

486
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Speaker 11: with him and they run the football and you know

487
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Speaker 11: how it works, Dan, Things get simpler when linebackers and

488
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Speaker 11: safeties are freaking out worried about running the football all

489
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Speaker 11: of a sudden play action bam. And when things are

490
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Speaker 11: clear and simple for him, he can perform. And so

491
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Speaker 11: I think that's how it works, and I think it

492
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Speaker 11: can happen. I mean, I don't think it's just a fluke.

493
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Speaker 11: I think that Daniel can be under the right circumstances.

494
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Speaker 11: The truth is, I think a lot of guys, if

495
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Speaker 11: they can find the place that resonates with them, which

496
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Speaker 11: is not everywhere, which is not even.

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Speaker 18: Half of the teams. Quarterback. If I've said to you

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Speaker 18: many times.

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Speaker 11: If I could play today and I could run to

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Speaker 11: any you know football NFL team today, where would you

501
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Speaker 11: want to play? Well, there's three that I'd run to

502
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Speaker 11: right now, and then there's ten that I would like, Eh,

503
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Speaker 11: all right, I'll go there, and there's fifteen.

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Speaker 3: I'm like, no, give me the teams you would run to.

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Speaker 11: I've got to San Francisco out the Rams and the Chiefs.

506
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Speaker 11: Those are the innovative minds that for someone that since

507
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Speaker 11: the rule changes in ten years ago or eight years ago,

508
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Speaker 11: they're the ones that had the tactical advantage because of

509
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Speaker 11: their innovation, because they saw the opportunity and immediately, you know,

510
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Speaker 11: with them, incredible minds just started to change the game.

511
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Speaker 11: And you remember what and then you know they've had to

512
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Speaker 11: reiterate and reinvent themselves as their coaches went out were

513
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Speaker 11: hired by other teams because they saw what happened with

514
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Speaker 11: Miami and Minnesota and Green Bay and like you just

515
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Speaker 11: go around the lead. Now it's everywhere to Jacksonville. Like

516
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Speaker 11: there's guys that have just come from those trees that

517
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Speaker 11: have innovative minds that have seen it and go, Okay,

518
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Speaker 11: this is what we're gonna do. That's why I think

519
00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:16,359
Speaker 11: the technical advantage from those guys is gone. You know,

520
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Speaker 11: it's lost a little bit, but they have to reinvent

521
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Speaker 11: themselves again. But those are three places I would sprint to.

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Speaker 2: Talking to Hall of Famer Steve Young, if you were

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Speaker 2: gonna give advice, what quarterback do you think needs advice?

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Speaker 18: What do you mean, like like every quarterback?

525
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Speaker 9: What are you?

526
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Speaker 18: What are you talking about?

527
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Speaker 3: Like you mean like Josh Allen? Does Josh Allen need advice?

528
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Speaker 18: Well, everybody's.

529
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Speaker 11: Everyone has to continue to iterate their game and really

530
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Speaker 11: take the positives. Like Josh, he was trying to be Superman.

531
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Speaker 11: It wasn't really advice that I would give to his game.

532
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Speaker 11: It was like, please please Bill's please Bill's offense. Please

533
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Speaker 11: give him some help so that he doesn't have to

534
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Speaker 11: be Superman all the time. Because when you have to

535
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Speaker 11: be Superman all the time, just like Patrick Mahomes was

536
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Speaker 11: trying to be Superman four or five years ago, then

537
00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:06,880
Speaker 11: you get into games and you just things go, hey,

538
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Speaker 11: why are again? Like you have to be able to

539
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Speaker 11: calm your mind to be you know, delivered from the pocket,

540
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Speaker 11: not have to be Superman every play. And then when

541
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Speaker 11: they ask you to for four or five plays a

542
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Speaker 11: game like, yeah, no problem. And so everyone needs advice

543
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Speaker 11: and everyone needs help, and it's not necessarily about them.

544
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Speaker 11: So much of it is you know, everyone says, Oh,

545
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Speaker 11: the commodity in the NFL is coaching. Yeah, just get

546
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Speaker 11: a coach, Like that's the offensive coordinators, the play callers,

547
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Speaker 11: the best in the game are like the Josh Allens are,

548
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Speaker 11: like the Patrick Mahomes are, like the Lamar Jackson's. There's

549
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Speaker 11: there's a few, and you've got to search them out

550
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Speaker 11: and find them and and and when they when they

551
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Speaker 11: meet another great talent.

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Speaker 18: That's why people go to the super Bowl.

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Speaker 11: And so just do not think that the talent to

554
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Speaker 11: be a great offensive coordinator, and especially an innovative kind

555
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Speaker 11: of game we have today where there's all kinds of

556
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Speaker 11: cool stuff you can do. Those guys are differenterentiators. So

557
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Speaker 11: the advice I would give to quarterbacks, every one of

558
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Speaker 11: them find somebody like that, because they're not They're not

559
00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:10,920
Speaker 11: a diamond dozen, that's for sure.

560
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Speaker 2: What would you say to Lamar Jackson if he came

561
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Speaker 2: to you and said, Steve, what do you think of

562
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Speaker 2: my mind?

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Speaker 11: Ooh, I would love that because Lamar is my guy. Like,

564
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Speaker 11: I think Lamar can be the greatest player of all time.

565
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Speaker 11: And I've said this for years, and I think the

566
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Speaker 11: Ravens have hurt. They hadn't hurt me. I mean, they

567
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Speaker 11: don't care. But I'm just saying four or five years ago,

568
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Speaker 11: they were the most sophisticated running game in history, and

569
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Speaker 11: they win a lot of games, and they'd go to

570
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Speaker 11: the playoffs and just flail because the game is a

571
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Speaker 11: sophisticated passing game.

572
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Speaker 18: Is still what matters. Great running games are great.

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Speaker 11: But and then Lamar just was not being challenged to

574
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Speaker 11: be a sophisticated passer and I knew he could be.

575
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Speaker 11: And then a couple of years ago you saw them

576
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Speaker 11: transition and they got the help he needed a receiver

577
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Speaker 11: and made a commitment to it and believed in him

578
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Speaker 11: and then started to call a place to do that.

579
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Speaker 11: So I think that transition is happening and that's why

580
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Speaker 11: Lamar's continues to thrive and can get better and better.

581
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Speaker 11: I would say to Lamar, keep on this track. Make

582
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Speaker 11: sure every week that you're doing the study. Like it's

583
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Speaker 11: quarterback sucks in a lot of ways during the week

584
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Speaker 11: because it's a it's a it's a memorization game. It's

585
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Speaker 11: reflexive memorization, so that when you get to the game,

586
00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:23,520
Speaker 11: you've studied enough that you know that all the tendencies

587
00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:27,440
Speaker 11: you know, you know in the red zone, blitz tendencies,

588
00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:30,199
Speaker 11: you know, you watched enough film. So much of it

589
00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:32,560
Speaker 11: is just a mind game. And I would just tell him,

590
00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:36,320
Speaker 11: like he is obviously doing the work, just double down

591
00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:39,440
Speaker 11: every every every week, every season, like double down on

592
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Speaker 11: the mind game.

593
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Speaker 3: How much of the position is being an entertainer.

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Speaker 18: Look, I would I wouldn't call it entertainer. I would

595
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Speaker 18: call it psychologist.

596
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Speaker 11: Like you, the game really demands a dynamic human being

597
00:28:57,520 --> 00:29:02,640
Speaker 11: that can deal with people, you know, bespoke right where

598
00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:05,520
Speaker 11: everybody is different and everybody needs to be Some guys

599
00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:07,200
Speaker 11: can get yelled at, and some guys you can't yell.

600
00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:09,320
Speaker 11: You got to kind of like pat them on the back.

601
00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:12,200
Speaker 11: Some guys you got to find different ways to communicate it.

602
00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:14,880
Speaker 11: But you always have to be accountable and it's just

603
00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:19,080
Speaker 11: a dynamic situation. So the entertainment part is really in

604
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Speaker 11: the in the doing and in the getting the guys together,

605
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Speaker 11: getting your office aligning to believe that it's okay that

606
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Speaker 11: you get paid ten times that the amount they do

607
00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:27,360
Speaker 11: and they have to get in a fight every week

608
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Speaker 11: and you don't, and you get to be on TV,

609
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Speaker 11: and like there's all kinds of dynamics in the locker room,

610
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Speaker 11: there's dynamics with the media. So in that way, I

611
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Speaker 11: would say, yeah, that's a huge quot the way you're

612
00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:40,760
Speaker 11: asking the question. But I don't think it's necessarily like

613
00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:44,000
Speaker 11: can you sing and dance? Like it's there's fundamentals to it.

614
00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:47,480
Speaker 11: It's it's a it's a like I said many times,

615
00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:50,960
Speaker 11: I poured myself into playing and there's nothing like it,

616
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Speaker 11: and ever since, there's nothing like what I had to

617
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Speaker 11: do to try to be good in the or great

618
00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:57,000
Speaker 11: the in the NFL. And so in that way, the

619
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Speaker 11: four quarterbacks are just it's an awesome, brutal opportunity to

620
00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:03,920
Speaker 11: be amazing if you can figure out how to pour

621
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Speaker 11: yourself into it and give everything ounce of yourself.

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Speaker 7: But that.

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Speaker 11: Entertainment side of it, that's pretty you know, to me,

624
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Speaker 11: that's what it's entertaining to Dan When you're good or

625
00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:16,680
Speaker 11: you're great, when you're winning and you're and you're making

626
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Speaker 11: great plays like justin Herbert, that's entertainment, right, Is that

627
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Speaker 11: what you're talking about.

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Speaker 18: Yeah, like that's that's excellence.

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Speaker 11: That's just the that's the tip of the spear kind

630
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Speaker 11: of awesome physical, emotional, like the really the way he

631
00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:30,560
Speaker 11: got there was not just because he's a great athlete

632
00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:34,000
Speaker 11: and why you got there is because he's a gritty, tough, minded,

633
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Speaker 11: you know, dynamic human being that can get everybody fired

634
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Speaker 11: up to go play some go ram into people and

635
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Speaker 11: and get into a fight and support you.

636
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Speaker 18: So to me, yeah, that's entertainment and it is you

637
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Speaker 18: have to have that.

638
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Speaker 2: I asked this question last week. What do you hear

639
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Speaker 2: when you're in the pocket? Like when you step up

640
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Speaker 2: in the pocket, what do you what do you hear?

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Speaker 18: I heard Reggie White yelling like he was screamed, like

642
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Speaker 18: he was a screamer. Like Reggie's like like you heard

643
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Speaker 18: him coming like a train.

644
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Speaker 3: He would just like.

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Speaker 11: What, bro, you're already you're six six five hundred now

646
00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:17,840
Speaker 11: with the screaming, you know, but you know it's like

647
00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:20,600
Speaker 11: the white noise of the crowd, Like people say, do

648
00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:23,040
Speaker 11: you what do you hear? It's like it's just it's

649
00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:27,040
Speaker 11: the job. It's it takes so much focus and so

650
00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:30,480
Speaker 11: much like you think about just the anticipatory throwing as

651
00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:33,360
Speaker 11: you see people moving and now know how to you

652
00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:35,240
Speaker 11: know where you need to let it go. At the

653
00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:38,280
Speaker 11: time you need to let it go. Nobody's open. Nobody's like,

654
00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:41,320
Speaker 11: oh he's open, let me throw it. Like that's college, man,

655
00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:44,120
Speaker 11: that's high school. Like, nobody's open. When you throw it,

656
00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:47,240
Speaker 11: you have to throw it well before something happens. And

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Speaker 11: so in that way, that focus is so great that

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Speaker 11: it's not like, oh, I you know, I regially I

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Speaker 11: did here. I have to admit that's why I said it.

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Speaker 11: But but I just it's just it's just white noise.

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Speaker 18: It's like just whatever, like, uh, you know I didn't. Uh.

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Speaker 11: And then you know, if no one here, I mean,

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Speaker 11: you hear it. The only thing you hear is is

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Speaker 11: after the play, you know, stupid. I mean, what defensive

665
00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:11,800
Speaker 11: line has ever said anything?

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Speaker 18: You really understand?

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00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:14,680
Speaker 11: You know how the their faces pushed to the helmet,

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Speaker 11: you know, and you know your mother, I'm like, my mom, want.

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Speaker 3: What's the problem?

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Speaker 11: But did they You're screaming something that I don't I

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00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:28,400
Speaker 11: don't get your your face is squished in your helmet.

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Speaker 18: You don't You're you're gurgling something.

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Speaker 7: I don't know.

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Speaker 18: What you're talking about, Bro.

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Speaker 3: They tried to trash talk you.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, but you don't understand that. Like, I know you're

677
00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:39,600
Speaker 11: trying to get to me, but Bro, I cannot understand you.

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Speaker 7: Man.

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00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:45,600
Speaker 3: But Lawrence Taylor, any of those guys, it's.

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Speaker 11: Like, you know, it's like just a bunch of gobbledygook.

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Speaker 11: I mean the safeties. What's in corners of safeties? I

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00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:55,400
Speaker 11: was like, you know, the defensive lineman. Just no, no,

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Speaker 11: not much there.

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Speaker 3: Did Dion ever trash talk you?

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Speaker 11: Oh? Oh, he's the best best, you know, he told

686
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Speaker 11: me Dan, it was amazing when he joined the forty

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Speaker 11: nine ers.

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Speaker 18: He turned me.

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Speaker 11: He grabbed me early and said, look, Steve, what I

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Speaker 11: want you to know is that I'm an amazing teammate

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Speaker 11: and in the locker room, I do my prep. I'm

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Speaker 11: ready to play, and you'll never doubt me the rest

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Speaker 11: of it. Just get some popcorn and watch the parade, bro,

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Speaker 11: because it's a it's a good one. And he was

695
00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:25,840
Speaker 11: exactly right. He never he was always ready to play.

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Speaker 11: He was a creatible teammate. He was great in the

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Speaker 11: locker room. And there was a parade, man, and we

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00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:31,040
Speaker 11: just kind of watched it.

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Speaker 18: It was fun.

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Speaker 11: He was, Yeah, Dion, could you know Dian was in

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Speaker 11: the middle of entertaining and you talk my entertainment.

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Speaker 3: There you go, yeah, that there he is.

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Speaker 11: He was that good that he could be great and

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Speaker 11: entertain the whole way. That's not easy to do because

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Speaker 11: you can do it from corner. You can do it from

706
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Speaker 11: corner because it's a hard job physically, but you know,

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Speaker 11: it's not like, you know, you have to anticipatory throwing

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Speaker 11: at twenty two guys running around like it's it's a

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Speaker 11: different game. So and that way you could you could say,

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Speaker 11: you know what, I'm gonna be great and I'm gonna

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Speaker 11: make you, you know, laugh, or entertain or make you whatever.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 18: I think you could do it from there.

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Speaker 3: But he had been a Hall of Fame receiver if

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Speaker 3: he just played, oh yeah.

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Speaker 11: Oh yeah, for sure, no question. He kept in when

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Speaker 11: when I was with him that one year, went to

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Speaker 11: Super Bowl. He kept going over there and I said, look,

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Speaker 11: let's let's cool, let's cool, let's get some let's get

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Speaker 11: some routes in the Super Bowl. We finally we threw

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Speaker 11: it late in the game. We did something. Just we

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Speaker 11: owed him to him because he did so much work

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Speaker 11: on the offense. He was like he did a lot

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Speaker 11: of prep work to be useful if needed, you know

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Speaker 11: what I mean.

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Speaker 18: And uh, I love that because I was like, the idea.

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Speaker 11: Was just He's like, he's just throw it, don't worry,

728
00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:43,839
Speaker 11: just shop back and just rip it and then I'll

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Speaker 11: take care of the rest. I believed him, man, I

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Speaker 11: believe it is possible. The dude was he you know, dad,

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Speaker 11: he was one of the rare guys that defied your eye.

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Speaker 11: You know, as a as a player, you're talking about

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Speaker 11: keen sense of physical abilities.

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Speaker 18: You had to know what a owner.

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Speaker 11: Could do and how fast they could break, and how

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Speaker 11: just a minute nature of how people moved and and

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00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:08,520
Speaker 11: you got a sense of it, like a heightened sense

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Speaker 11: of it, so you knew exactly what was happened on

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00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:12,279
Speaker 11: the field and who could do what, and there's a

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Speaker 11: timing to it. And then Dion was different like he

741
00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:17,400
Speaker 11: would he would shock you. You're like, wait, you're not

742
00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:20,640
Speaker 11: you can't move that way. There's not it's not possible.

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Speaker 11: There was a time when he was with Atlanta early on,

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Speaker 11: I was like, I'm just not going over there because

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00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:27,480
Speaker 11: I can't got I can't gauge it. It was like

746
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Speaker 11: something you couldn't I couldn't give a handle on it

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00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:32,160
Speaker 11: because it was his speed was so incredible.

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Speaker 18: I was like, I can't. I'm gonna touch you for

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Speaker 18: a little while.

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Speaker 2: Its thanks for sharing. Great to talk to you again.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, Steve the Man, all rybody, that's Steve Young,

752
00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:49,279
Speaker 2: Hall of Famer. You imagine you're telling Bill Walsh or

753
00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:51,799
Speaker 2: George Seaffert, can we not go towards.

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Speaker 3: Dion sign please?

755
00:35:55,040 --> 00:35:57,359
Speaker 2: Meanwhile, he's got, you know, all these great weapons on

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Speaker 2: his side of the ball.

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Speaker 3: Let's stay away from Dion, all right? Last call for

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Speaker 3: phone calls? What we learn? What's in store tomorrow? Right

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00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:03,160
Speaker 3: after this?

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Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in

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763
00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:16,720
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00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:19,400
Speaker 3: What we learned? What's in store tomorrow?

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00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:25,080
Speaker 2: Do we dare write the headline today for tonight's game?

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00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:30,200
Speaker 2: Tomorrow's headline? I think you guys probably don't have time

767
00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:33,279
Speaker 2: to prepare. Todd probably is able to do that. You

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00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:34,640
Speaker 2: could do a headline.

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Speaker 4: I could something along the lines of less than Ferocious

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Speaker 4: Ron Raven's tame Lions.

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Speaker 3: Okay, maybe take a little more time.

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00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:47,800
Speaker 10: Detroit is good. Those guys are lying.

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Speaker 3: Once again. We probably needed Vet a little bit more.

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Speaker 5: Three one see I told you the lines were no good.

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Speaker 8: Three one c nothing.

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00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:04,360
Speaker 3: Okay, Marvin, you have a quick NFL game.

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00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:07,160
Speaker 10: To take the Ravens back across eight mile of that one.

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00:37:07,640 --> 00:37:08,160
Speaker 7: There you go.

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00:37:09,560 --> 00:37:10,680
Speaker 5: Work together, See we work.

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Speaker 2: You know what my fault? I never should have done this. Okay, Marvin,

781
00:37:14,239 --> 00:37:15,399
Speaker 2: your quick NFL game?

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00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:18,440
Speaker 8: Yes? My game is I guess the quarterback that Deon

783
00:37:18,520 --> 00:37:24,480
Speaker 8: Sanders has the most interceptions off of Steve Young, He's second?

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Speaker 19: Oh, Todd, Joe Fisman, No, Joe Montana No, not a

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Speaker 19: Hall of Famer NFC god though, correct.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, Paul Jim Effert of the Rams.

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00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:57,440
Speaker 2: Okay, don't call me Chris, Jim Everett, produce Jim Effert, Yes, Marvin.

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00:37:57,480 --> 00:38:00,000
Speaker 8: In third place, it was Troy Akerman and Drew Blair.

789
00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:08,839
Speaker 8: So Carrie Collins, Brett Farv Okay, Rodney Pete, Dan Marino right, terrible.

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Speaker 2: Guess Pat in Connecticut? Hi, Pat, what's on your mind today?

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00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:12,799
Speaker 7: Hey?

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Speaker 14: DP, thanks for taking my call. Hey, real quick about

793
00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:16,839
Speaker 14: the tush push. I was a high school coach here

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00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:18,960
Speaker 14: in Connecticut for over twenty years, and we ran a

795
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Speaker 14: play that was that was very similar to the tush

796
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Speaker 14: push a few differences. The big difference was the fullback

797
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Speaker 14: would actually carry the ball and instead of assisting the runner,

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Speaker 14: the wings would fold in and push on the backs

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Speaker 14: of the guards, which would kind of create that scrum.

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Speaker 14: And it may look kind of archaic and stone age,

801
00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:38,480
Speaker 14: but there's a lot of nuance to what those what

802
00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:40,720
Speaker 14: those guys are doing up front. It takes a long

803
00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:44,319
Speaker 14: time to become proficient at it, and once we finally did,

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00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:46,279
Speaker 14: it kind of became a calling card for you know,

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00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:48,799
Speaker 14: for our guys and our program, and something we were

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00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:52,000
Speaker 14: comfortable running just about any down let alone, you know.

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Speaker 14: Fourth and one. Having said that it is remarkably difficult

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Speaker 14: to officiate in pre game meetings with the officials, I

809
00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:02,239
Speaker 14: would these guys through it and tell them to be

810
00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:05,120
Speaker 14: patient with the whistle, that there would be times where

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Speaker 14: that back would actually keep his feet and amidst all

812
00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:10,440
Speaker 14: of the chaos going on in that pile and be

813
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Speaker 14: able to break it. And two three, four times a

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Speaker 14: year the full back would be twenty yards downfield and

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Speaker 14: an official didn't see him and what's.

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Speaker 11: Blow with that?

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Speaker 3: Thank you? Pat uh Brian in Texas, I Brian, Hey.

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Speaker 20: DF have me go on good hey, just to piggyback

819
00:39:29,640 --> 00:39:33,040
Speaker 20: off that. I hate the fish push. And I don't

820
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Speaker 20: understand how an offensive lineman can put their head down

821
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Speaker 20: and lead with their head and go into the head

822
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Speaker 20: of a defense. I mean, you see what I mean here?

823
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Speaker 20: It looks like two rams button head with ach other.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 20: And if the NFL solo caught up on CTE, maybe

826
00:39:50,080 --> 00:39:53,120
Speaker 20: you know the injury report or risks are not realized

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Speaker 20: until years later.

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Speaker 3: I just don't And thanks for the phone call. I

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Speaker 3: don't know why.

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Speaker 2: If it was two thousand and five that the only

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Speaker 2: all of a sudden said you can assist a runner

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Speaker 2: from behind, I got I don't know why, Like, what

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Speaker 2: was the call for it? Yeah, Paulie.

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Speaker 6: The only thing I could find was a New York

835
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Speaker 6: Times article saying it was happening a lot in football already,

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Speaker 6: that there the linemen were pushing the running back and

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Speaker 6: it was hard for the referees to adjudicate.

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Speaker 9: That was the quote they used.

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Speaker 3: Why is it difficult to rule on?

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Speaker 6: And then the irony is that they let it go

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Speaker 6: and now they're gonna get rid of it because it's

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Speaker 6: tough to adjudicate.

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Speaker 2: It would help if they started with off sides, just

844
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Speaker 2: just you can officiate that. The other part of it,

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Speaker 2: I understand, very challenging. Seatan, findal results of pole question?

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Speaker 10: Yep, we got two of them up there right now.

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Speaker 3: Okay, loss, that's gonna haunt you.

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Speaker 10: Right now, the Packers Browns game has about forty one

849
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Speaker 10: percent of that vote that's been staying steady. Win of

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Speaker 10: the weekend switched a couple of times right now, Indiana

851
00:41:02,040 --> 00:41:04,280
Speaker 10: and the lead with forty three percent of the vote,

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00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:08,160
Speaker 10: and then a tie for second between Syracuse and the Bears.

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00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:11,839
Speaker 3: Better team the Colts or the Hoosiers.

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00:41:13,320 --> 00:41:15,160
Speaker 10: With Daniel diming all over the place.

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Speaker 3: Are you kidding me? Yeah, Pauline, the.

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Speaker 6: Only thing they could ruin a Hoosiers weekend is Indiana

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Speaker 6: becoming a football school.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. What did you learn?

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00:41:24,239 --> 00:41:26,760
Speaker 4: Todd Lewis reddicks all in on the charges and feels

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Speaker 4: it's time for the Giants to bench Russ for Jackson?

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Speaker 10: Dark, Seatan, would you learn somewhere between three to five

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00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:33,160
Speaker 10: people could have made that scene?

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Speaker 3: Throw just in her.

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00:41:34,280 --> 00:41:36,760
Speaker 8: Garvin Lawyer's new book is not about the NFL.

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Speaker 9: I'm clearly not overrecting.

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Speaker 2: Have a great day, everybody. Thanks for your contributions, as

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00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:46,520
Speaker 2: always for the talented Fritzy Seatan, Marv, Paula yours truly

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Speaker 2: have a great day, look forward to trying to entertain

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Speaker 2: you tomorrow