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Speaker 1: All right, Brandon Bing and I am Rapports Stereo Podcast.

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Speaker 2: This here, I am so excited.

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Speaker 1: For today's special guest, the UFC Baddest motherfucker, the baddest

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Speaker 1: motherfucking title holder, Jorgey Masdaval aka game Bred aka Street Jesus,

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Speaker 1: one of the most charismatic, interesting, fantastic shit talking compelling

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Speaker 1: personalities in all of UFCMMA history.

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Speaker 2: I have been at his fights, I have watched him.

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Speaker 2: He's great.

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Speaker 1: He was discovered by the great Kimbo Slice Rip.

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Speaker 3: This is a.

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Speaker 1: Fantastic, fantastic interview with the one, the Only jor Hey

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Speaker 1: Mazdival Coming up right now on the I Am rap

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Speaker 1: Reports Stereo Podcast, Miles Jordan Ak the Beliefs Brothers a

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Speaker 1: k a.

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Speaker 2: That Dost brother. Start this puppy off for something real nice.

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Speaker 1: Start this puffy off with something real loud, but most importantly,

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Speaker 1: start this museum quality, hard hitting I am Rapports Stereo

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Speaker 1: Podcast off with something real funky.

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Speaker 2: Let's go.

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Speaker 1: All right, or Hey, Mas Deval, game Bread Street Jesus,

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Speaker 1: fantastic fighter, fantastic career, fantastic shit talker. I know you'll

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Speaker 1: be a fantastic promoter and I'm a big fan. I'm

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Speaker 1: a big fan of big fan of your fighting, big

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Speaker 1: fan of your your whole persona. Well, I guess when

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Speaker 1: you're fighters, is it is it a persona? How much

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Speaker 1: of fighting nowadays is persona versus.

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Speaker 3: It's some yet some No, I think in other things

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Speaker 3: like maybe w w F, it is more persona. I

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Speaker 3: think in fighting the fighters amplify their persona like that.

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Speaker 3: A lot of them are this way and then they're like,

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Speaker 3: amplify it for the camera. Some guys are complete fucking

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Speaker 3: wack job or skit that you could tell right off rip.

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Speaker 3: But I think most guys it's it's like a heighten

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Speaker 3: cel phone of themselves, you know, to promote yourselves, to

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Speaker 3: promote themselves. And also it's just like, you know, if

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Speaker 3: me and you were gonna have combat with each other,

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Speaker 3: there's like adrenaline pumping through me and you as we're

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Speaker 3: looking right here at each other. I'm sizing you up.

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Speaker 3: So I'm looking at your wrists, at your hands, all

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Speaker 3: this stuff. I'm like, how do they thinking? You know,

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Speaker 3: I mean when you look at when they're nice, which

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Speaker 3: is not a good compliment for fighting, man, they don't

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Speaker 3: look like fighter hands, you know.

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Speaker 2: No, they're not fighting. They're not fighter hands.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, civilian looking hands. You know, they don't have all

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Speaker 3: these cuts and bruises and mutations on them, so they

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Speaker 3: look you know, in that you get a little crazy, right.

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Speaker 3: So if we're like standing next to each other, it

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Speaker 3: with each other on top of that. It only sells,

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Speaker 3: So I think the characters getting amplified. But a lot

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Speaker 2: You know, who is whacked out of their tree in UFC?

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Speaker 1: Like, who are the guys who were like this guy

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Speaker 3: There's a bunch of them. I just I can't be

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Speaker 3: bunch of dudes out there that are rowdy. Man, A

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Speaker 3: lot of people think I'm rowdy. There's a lot of

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Speaker 3: Fergus And I'll say a quick Tony story because I

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Speaker 3: Me and him and Dominic Cruz one thirty five bnamweight champion,

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Speaker 3: we were all hanging out one day and Tony was

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Speaker 3: So he looks at Dominic Cruise and Dominic he tells

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Speaker 3: it was pretty good, bro. Like there's some people out

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Speaker 3: Why are you worried about low kicks and this? And that?

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Speaker 3: He's different, man, he's a different dude.

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Speaker 1: If you were Ferguson's trainer, you're friendly with him, a

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Speaker 3: I mean, it just happens to all of us. It's

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Speaker 3: the same guy that you once wore. There's a lot

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Speaker 3: of guys beating you. They never would have beat you,

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Speaker 3: never would have held even your jogstrap in your prime.

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Speaker 3: Maybe that that time has come in and there's some

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Speaker 3: They just have to compete. It's in him. I just

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Speaker 3: wouldn't want to see Tony get hurt, man, because I'm

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Speaker 3: And though he had moments in this fight, he dropped

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Speaker 3: I just I don't see him how it used to be.

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Speaker 1: For you, you're out now, but you sort of seem

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Speaker 1: like you're still circling. Possibly you did a fantastic tweet.

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Speaker 1: Maybe that's why you were late. Maybe it took you

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Speaker 3: I think that was today, Yeah, that was today. That

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Speaker 2: What would get you back into fighting now?

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Speaker 3: It's not necessarily even that Connor gave me back in

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Speaker 2: Like just like moving out of the way or rolling

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Speaker 3: So we're here, right, and as we get closer and

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Speaker 3: whatever data you're giving me. Right, So those things i'd

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Speaker 3: not I'm not competing anymore because I know that that

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Speaker 1: And if you're fighting somebody, you know it's a huge paycheck.

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Speaker 1: Are you able to compartmentalize the danger or the reality

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Speaker 1: that your reflexes have changed a little bit, Like I

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Speaker 3: Set up you gotta do if you're gonna fight, you

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Speaker 2: Your mode.

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Speaker 3: That there's a really real estate that I shouldn't be

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Speaker 3: you know, like the distance where we're fighting. Maybe I'm

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Speaker 3: Things like that. You could always adapt in fighting, but

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Speaker 1: You know, we talked about the Errol Spence Crawford fight.

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Speaker 1: What was your impression of that.

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Speaker 3: I love Crawford. I think this guy's a beast. I

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Speaker 3: destruction path. I mean he he was mopping up everybody

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Speaker 3: I followed all of Terrence's fights till now. I was

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Speaker 3: to speed, the defense, and Spence is no slouch. Man.

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Speaker 3: This guy is like fucking good in every department. He

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Speaker 3: I just thought this was gonna be a tough fight,

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Speaker 3: way more competitive. Terrence is from another planet. Man. He

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Speaker 3: reminds you of the guys from the sixties, seventies and eighties,

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Speaker 3: Like this guy's mean, athletic and is not scared, and

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Speaker 3: he's willing to put it on the line, you know,

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Speaker 3: from one to jump all the way to to fight

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Speaker 3: hundred and fifty four now, so this sky's a limit

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Speaker 1: If your Errol, would you, I mean, obviously when you

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Speaker 1: lose you want to rematch?

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Speaker 1: You fought during the pandemic, it was usman right, right,

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Speaker 3: I cut from when they gave me the phone call

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Speaker 1: You're always going to have the fight the point of

432
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Speaker 1: view of a fighter.

433
00:20:13,200 --> 00:20:14,640
Speaker 3: So so what would you.

434
00:20:14,800 --> 00:20:17,480
Speaker 1: Do now that you're a promoter that you're calling the

435
00:20:17,480 --> 00:20:19,480
Speaker 1: shots For the most part, I know there's probably people

436
00:20:19,880 --> 00:20:23,720
Speaker 1: to protect fighters, and how do you not become the

437
00:20:23,760 --> 00:20:25,640
Speaker 1: asshole who's fucking over the fighters?

438
00:20:25,680 --> 00:20:27,560
Speaker 2: How do you avoid that? But also, it's a business.

439
00:20:27,800 --> 00:20:30,879
Speaker 3: It's a great question, you know. The UFC to a

440
00:20:30,880 --> 00:20:33,000
Speaker 3: lot of people seems like, man, they're kind of harsh

441
00:20:33,080 --> 00:20:34,719
Speaker 3: in these paychecks. But at the end of the day,

442
00:20:34,720 --> 00:20:36,520
Speaker 3: I don't take it personal because it's a business and

443
00:20:36,560 --> 00:20:38,159
Speaker 3: it's the same thing. We got to run a business.

444
00:20:38,200 --> 00:20:40,719
Speaker 3: But it's much money and as much sponsorships and as

445
00:20:40,800 --> 00:20:43,000
Speaker 3: much eyeballs as I could get on these fighters. So

446
00:20:43,160 --> 00:20:45,080
Speaker 3: with the bare knockle if you see what we pay

447
00:20:45,119 --> 00:20:48,560
Speaker 3: these guys out, it's considerably more than what guys paid

448
00:20:48,840 --> 00:20:51,000
Speaker 3: on the same level with gloves on. You know, we

449
00:20:51,080 --> 00:20:52,840
Speaker 3: do that for a reason. So these fighters are taken

450
00:20:52,880 --> 00:20:55,520
Speaker 3: care of. And one thing that we definitely want to

451
00:20:55,520 --> 00:20:57,720
Speaker 3: do is just keep bringing in sponsors for fighters as well.

452
00:20:57,960 --> 00:21:00,600
Speaker 3: Let them eat off that, you know, the pay or

453
00:21:00,920 --> 00:21:04,320
Speaker 3: will always grow as a sport grows. But one thing

454
00:21:04,320 --> 00:21:06,760
Speaker 3: that we could definitely offer the fighters coming into organizations,

455
00:21:06,840 --> 00:21:09,439
Speaker 3: especially the bigger name was is the sponsorships and then

456
00:21:09,480 --> 00:21:11,480
Speaker 3: eventually we'll get we'll be able to get everybody, the

457
00:21:11,800 --> 00:21:14,600
Speaker 3: mid entry guys to the young guys. But something I

458
00:21:14,600 --> 00:21:16,920
Speaker 3: definitely want to do is is keep these guys active

459
00:21:16,960 --> 00:21:21,119
Speaker 3: as well. You know. That's why as a fighter, especially me,

460
00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:23,600
Speaker 3: I always wanted to stay active. And it wasn't that easy.

461
00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:25,560
Speaker 3: I fought all over the world. I got fifty two

462
00:21:25,560 --> 00:21:29,320
Speaker 3: pro fights, and I will take fights in two weeks, notice,

463
00:21:29,359 --> 00:21:32,000
Speaker 3: seven days, notice, all types of notice. That's soone the

464
00:21:32,080 --> 00:21:34,080
Speaker 3: UC gave me that opportunity. I was like, I could

465
00:21:34,119 --> 00:21:36,720
Speaker 3: do this. I got into the UFC by taking short

466
00:21:36,920 --> 00:21:38,840
Speaker 3: notice fights. I could go for it. So something that

467
00:21:38,880 --> 00:21:40,480
Speaker 3: I did throughout my career, I want to be able

468
00:21:40,520 --> 00:21:42,879
Speaker 3: to tell guys, hey, you have three months to prepare

469
00:21:42,920 --> 00:21:44,840
Speaker 3: you un to fight in March, un fight in July,

470
00:21:44,920 --> 00:21:46,400
Speaker 3: and you're going to fight in September. And I think

471
00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:49,919
Speaker 3: that's something that gives so much security to me as

472
00:21:49,920 --> 00:21:52,360
Speaker 3: an athlete, specially and not knowing that I have this program,

473
00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:54,040
Speaker 3: like all right, I'll have a week in between these

474
00:21:54,040 --> 00:21:55,960
Speaker 3: things to like do my own thing and then get

475
00:21:56,040 --> 00:21:58,480
Speaker 3: right back to camp, because these are my days, and

476
00:21:58,640 --> 00:22:01,000
Speaker 3: I think for fighters they usually did love that type

477
00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:01,399
Speaker 3: of stuff.

478
00:22:02,040 --> 00:22:04,119
Speaker 1: The card that's coming up, I want to do that

479
00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:05,560
Speaker 1: and then go back in your in your life, in

480
00:22:05,560 --> 00:22:09,240
Speaker 1: your world, September eighth, break down what's going to be

481
00:22:09,240 --> 00:22:11,240
Speaker 1: on that card and who's going to be on that

482
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Speaker 1: that card on.

483
00:22:11,760 --> 00:22:14,560
Speaker 3: The eighth, this is our biggest card today. We have

484
00:22:14,600 --> 00:22:18,359
Speaker 3: Faica We're doing. You'll see x heavyweight champion versus Junior

485
00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:22,840
Speaker 3: Dosanto's another x UFC heavyweight champion. By coincidence, I happened

486
00:22:22,840 --> 00:22:25,360
Speaker 3: to train with JDS for the last seven years. We're

487
00:22:25,400 --> 00:22:27,399
Speaker 3: both at the American Top Team. He's a teammate of

488
00:22:27,440 --> 00:22:30,600
Speaker 3: mine and I've been watching him his whole career of MMA.

489
00:22:30,760 --> 00:22:33,879
Speaker 3: So I'm I'm very in awe and in shock that

490
00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:35,840
Speaker 3: we were able to pull this fight off bare knuckle,

491
00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:37,639
Speaker 3: bare knuckle, no gloves.

492
00:22:38,119 --> 00:22:38,560
Speaker 2: Tape.

493
00:22:39,119 --> 00:22:41,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, they'll have tapes on the on the hands and wrists.

494
00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:43,080
Speaker 3: It won't go on the knuckle, but they'll have their

495
00:22:43,119 --> 00:22:47,080
Speaker 3: hand protected so that they don't get Yeah, they'll have

496
00:22:47,160 --> 00:22:48,840
Speaker 3: the it'll be a good amount of support on the

497
00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:52,000
Speaker 3: wrists and the actual hand is just here. There's no padding,

498
00:22:52,040 --> 00:22:55,720
Speaker 3: no take, no nothing. Ship and missiles, it's your your

499
00:22:55,760 --> 00:22:58,320
Speaker 3: launching missiles that guys, when you do that. And now,

500
00:22:59,320 --> 00:23:01,199
Speaker 3: one thing that we noticed from putting on all these

501
00:23:01,200 --> 00:23:03,920
Speaker 3: shows is that the submissions also go through the roof.

502
00:23:03,960 --> 00:23:06,000
Speaker 3: It's not just the knockouts or cuts. But now you

503
00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:09,119
Speaker 3: don't have tape hand wrap, tape hand wrap and then

504
00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:11,679
Speaker 3: a glove. No, it's just like bare knuckles. So now

505
00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:14,440
Speaker 3: you don't have this extra three inches on top of

506
00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:17,159
Speaker 3: your hand, so it's easier to get into certain spots

507
00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:19,639
Speaker 3: to maneuver shertain grips. So the finishing rate goes up

508
00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:21,800
Speaker 3: through the roof as well in the submissions, so it's

509
00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:23,560
Speaker 3: just more action. The guys hit the floor in instead

510
00:23:23,560 --> 00:23:25,800
Speaker 3: of hugging so much, they're trying to choke the piss

511
00:23:25,800 --> 00:23:27,239
Speaker 3: out of each other because they know they could get

512
00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:28,320
Speaker 3: to these positions easier.

513
00:23:28,359 --> 00:23:34,199
Speaker 1: Now, why would anybody want a professionally fight bare knuckle?

514
00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:36,520
Speaker 2: It seems so fucking crazy.

515
00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:39,760
Speaker 3: It's crazy, but you ask the same thing one hundred

516
00:23:39,840 --> 00:23:43,399
Speaker 3: years ago, why would anybody want a box? Seems fucking crazier.

517
00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:45,720
Speaker 3: And then Moutai and then all this, you know, so

518
00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:48,800
Speaker 3: it's just to the fighters sudden. Them really liked the

519
00:23:48,840 --> 00:23:50,800
Speaker 3: realism of it, like this is the closest it gets

520
00:23:50,840 --> 00:23:52,399
Speaker 3: to a fight, and that's what draws them, like I

521
00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:54,080
Speaker 3: want to be the best fighter in the world. You know,

522
00:23:54,880 --> 00:23:56,680
Speaker 3: some people see exposure because you get a lot of

523
00:23:56,720 --> 00:23:59,280
Speaker 3: exposure fighting bare knuckle, even if it's somebody we've never

524
00:23:59,320 --> 00:24:01,879
Speaker 3: heard of. It's on YouTube and two people are fighting

525
00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:04,600
Speaker 3: bareknuckle on their professionals, You're just gonna stop and watch

526
00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:07,719
Speaker 3: because it's what two pros are taking the gloves off.

527
00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:09,480
Speaker 3: Let me see this, you know. So they know they

528
00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:12,280
Speaker 3: get a lot of exposure. Me personally, I did it

529
00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:15,159
Speaker 3: in kimball slices backyards. But that's when Kimbo was like

530
00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:17,560
Speaker 3: a megastar. He was a rockster. He was getting thirty

531
00:24:17,560 --> 00:24:20,480
Speaker 3: million views hit, you know, and he asked me, He goes, hey,

532
00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:22,320
Speaker 3: you want to fight in my backyard. I was like

533
00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:24,760
Speaker 3: fucking kidding me, of course, you know, I was fucking

534
00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:28,000
Speaker 3: nobody knew me, like, no, my the five people that

535
00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:30,480
Speaker 3: number where my family members lived in my house. Nobody

536
00:24:30,520 --> 00:24:32,080
Speaker 3: fucking knew me. And this guy asked me to come

537
00:24:32,119 --> 00:24:35,879
Speaker 3: fight in this platform. Millions of people know me. After that,

538
00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:38,199
Speaker 3: I have the fight and it goes. I remember like

539
00:24:38,320 --> 00:24:40,399
Speaker 3: within two weeks it was I got three hundred thousand

540
00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:42,639
Speaker 3: dollar views, and then within a month I was like

541
00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:44,480
Speaker 3: at a million views already. I was like what And

542
00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:46,879
Speaker 3: this is twenty something years ago on YouTube. It's the

543
00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:49,760
Speaker 3: crazy shit ever, and that exposure is still out there

544
00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:51,840
Speaker 3: for these guys in social media now more than ever.

545
00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:54,600
Speaker 3: So that's another big reason why why the bare knuckles?

546
00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:56,720
Speaker 2: You know, how did Kimball find you?

547
00:24:57,200 --> 00:25:00,480
Speaker 3: We were so I was fighting around Miami, You're ready,

548
00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:03,359
Speaker 3: and in the backyard. Yeah, not in his backyard, just

549
00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:05,720
Speaker 3: in different parts of Miami wherever I get offered to compete.

550
00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:08,399
Speaker 3: I already knew who came to money for money for everything,

551
00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:10,760
Speaker 3: but it wasn't like real money. It was like, you know,

552
00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:12,879
Speaker 3: you're my boy, and these guys here and everybody came

553
00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:14,760
Speaker 3: over with like thirty dollars and we're betting the other

554
00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:17,679
Speaker 3: guy over here two hundred dollars and you know, petty

555
00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:21,560
Speaker 3: stuff like that, you know, and like that, I kept training, competing,

556
00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:25,000
Speaker 3: going to gym's. Kimball was coincidentally at the same gym

557
00:25:25,040 --> 00:25:26,880
Speaker 3: that I was at, and they had seen me working out.

558
00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:28,760
Speaker 3: They thought I had a lot of problems. So they

559
00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:30,880
Speaker 3: spoke to one of the guys that was handling the gym.

560
00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:32,280
Speaker 3: He's like, hey, we'd like to have them on. They

561
00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:34,200
Speaker 3: asked me, Hey, would you like to fight? I said,

562
00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:36,879
Speaker 3: hell yeah, bro, it'd be a fucking This guy's getting

563
00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:38,560
Speaker 3: thirty million views and he wants me to fight. This

564
00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:42,320
Speaker 3: is fucking nuts. So back then, it was very legal,

565
00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:44,840
Speaker 3: very on the hush. You couldn't tell nobody, you couldn't

566
00:25:44,840 --> 00:25:46,800
Speaker 3: do anything about it. If you posted about it, it was

567
00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:48,520
Speaker 3: gonna get shut down the cops that we show up.

568
00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:50,159
Speaker 3: So they told me we're going to run it in

569
00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:52,880
Speaker 3: about six months time. You think you'd be good? Then

570
00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:55,560
Speaker 3: I was like, yeah, yeah, yeah, we're gonna have the

571
00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:57,320
Speaker 3: next one in six months. We're going to keep posting.

572
00:25:57,760 --> 00:26:00,800
Speaker 3: Time went by, It didn't call, nothing, nothing. I'm like,

573
00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:05,880
Speaker 3: they probably just bullshitting me. Right, I get a call,

574
00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:08,640
Speaker 3: random call, Hey, you think you'll be ready like by

575
00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:12,000
Speaker 3: next month, two weeks from now. I was like, fuck, yeah, Okay,

576
00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:14,199
Speaker 3: you don't know you're fighting. Give a fuck your fight.

577
00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:16,160
Speaker 3: I don't know who I'm fighting. You don't know someone

578
00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:19,200
Speaker 3: in your size rightone in my size range, and I, uh,

579
00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:21,119
Speaker 3: and I don't know where the fight's gonna take place

580
00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:24,520
Speaker 3: in the rules setting either, you know. So I get

581
00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:27,760
Speaker 3: a call again maybe after those two weeks. They're like, hey,

582
00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:29,879
Speaker 3: it's going down this week. We're gonna call you on

583
00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:32,760
Speaker 3: Wednesday with the location, you know, and just be ready.

584
00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:35,960
Speaker 3: So Wednesday came or whatever day was, and I had

585
00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:38,280
Speaker 3: completely forgot. I was at the drive through McDonald's about

586
00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:40,439
Speaker 3: to eat. They called me like, hey, we're ready. We're

587
00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:42,159
Speaker 3: gonna send you a location. Are you ready to go?

588
00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:46,280
Speaker 3: I was like hell yeah, canceled the order, went straight

589
00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:48,919
Speaker 3: over there, called up a couple of friends just in

590
00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:51,199
Speaker 3: case I need to back up. We get over there.

591
00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:52,159
Speaker 2: You don't know what the fuck is.

592
00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:54,480
Speaker 3: You don't know what the fuck's going on over that's

593
00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:57,199
Speaker 3: where the UFC is such a complete, like peaceful setting

594
00:26:57,560 --> 00:27:00,520
Speaker 3: as opposed to a backyard guys have guns knives. So

595
00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:03,920
Speaker 3: we get there and they tell me Kimbo's gonna fight first.

596
00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:05,560
Speaker 3: You're gonnaet to see him fight. I was like, helly, yeah,

597
00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:06,760
Speaker 3: he wants to see your fight. They tell me he

598
00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:08,439
Speaker 3: wants to see your fight, so he's gonna fight first.

599
00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:11,600
Speaker 3: So Kimber, I'm like warming up. Kimber literally pulls up

600
00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:14,399
Speaker 3: in a black escalator. Door opens, more smoke comes out

601
00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:16,840
Speaker 3: than you've ever seen your fucking life. Kimball comes out

602
00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:19,240
Speaker 3: with his chain. He looks at Icy Mike's manager, good

603
00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:22,000
Speaker 3: friend of mine, puts a chain on him and says

604
00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:24,400
Speaker 3: something like let's get it or give him my bread,

605
00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:26,560
Speaker 3: and goes in and fights no warm on nothing, knocks

606
00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:29,000
Speaker 3: the guy out and then calls me to fight next.

607
00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:31,639
Speaker 3: And it was fucking amazing. And that video ended up

608
00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:34,320
Speaker 3: doing that I did got like fifteen sixteen million views

609
00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:36,280
Speaker 3: in total, like nowadays, but back then it was like

610
00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:39,200
Speaker 3: right in two months time, it was like at a million.

611
00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:41,040
Speaker 3: It was crazy for me, you know. And in that

612
00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:44,320
Speaker 3: exposure I always said, this is crazy because it's from

613
00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:46,080
Speaker 3: the bare knuckles. So now when we do we see

614
00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:47,920
Speaker 3: we're doing the same thing for the guys, and it's

615
00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:50,679
Speaker 3: it's the best feeling. Man, It's like a food three sixty.

616
00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:52,880
Speaker 2: At that point in your life, what did you want

617
00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:53,119
Speaker 2: to do?

618
00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:55,840
Speaker 3: How old were you about to be? Eighteen?

619
00:27:56,080 --> 00:27:57,840
Speaker 2: So what were you thinking your life was gonna be?

620
00:27:57,880 --> 00:28:01,159
Speaker 3: Fighting bum? No? Man, I knew that this was just

621
00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:03,480
Speaker 3: a step in the right direction. I always knew I

622
00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:06,360
Speaker 3: wanted to do MMA since since twelve thirteen years old.

623
00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:08,000
Speaker 3: My mind was made like this is all I'm going

624
00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:08,280
Speaker 3: to do.

625
00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:10,560
Speaker 2: And because of what you're like, what are you watching

626
00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:11,119
Speaker 2: at that point?

627
00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:13,520
Speaker 3: Like that's getting you into it only and nothing but

628
00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:16,320
Speaker 3: MMA and boxing. So I discovered boxing around seven eight

629
00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:21,399
Speaker 3: and I was diagnosed with all types of ADHD and

630
00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:24,840
Speaker 3: add crazy amount of energy. My dad can never get

631
00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:26,359
Speaker 3: me to sit still unless it was like a come

632
00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:28,520
Speaker 3: ful marathon that you should play like on Saturdays. And

633
00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:30,119
Speaker 3: he noticed this is the only thing that comes this

634
00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:33,760
Speaker 3: guy that grew into like boxing and mixed martial arts.

635
00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:37,280
Speaker 3: But since since a young kid, I didn't even understand

636
00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:40,560
Speaker 3: what football was or basketball. I was looking at it

637
00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:42,479
Speaker 3: trying to figure it out, like I don't know what's happening.

638
00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:45,520
Speaker 3: But as soon as I saw fighting, I was already hooked,

639
00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:45,760
Speaker 3: you know.

640
00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:49,040
Speaker 1: And you mentioned Kimbo was smoking weed. You said you

641
00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:50,120
Speaker 1: were smoking weed.

642
00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:51,840
Speaker 3: No back then, though I didn't start smoking till like

643
00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:54,520
Speaker 3: later later on in life, like twenty seven to twenty eight.

644
00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:57,719
Speaker 2: After you were Hori Masabl the Fighter. Yeah, yeah, Now,

645
00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:02,080
Speaker 2: I said. The contradiction between being hood we all know

646
00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:03,600
Speaker 2: food in the hood.

647
00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:05,960
Speaker 1: You know, we're talking about, like you know, from the

648
00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:09,280
Speaker 1: Chinese food spot to pizza, the tacos and all that shit.

649
00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:13,520
Speaker 1: The contradiction of being a fighter, which takes discipline, and

650
00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:17,400
Speaker 1: smoking weed and being in the hood is so fascinating

651
00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:20,120
Speaker 1: to me because you're talking about your smoking weed doesn't

652
00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:21,160
Speaker 1: mess with your staming up.

653
00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:24,920
Speaker 3: I think the way you ingest the thc. You know,

654
00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:27,080
Speaker 3: like depending on the type of paper, I think matters

655
00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:29,520
Speaker 3: a lot what's going into your lungs. But I'll put

656
00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:32,320
Speaker 3: it like this, like if I go out on Saturday

657
00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:35,680
Speaker 3: night Sunday night and I fucking drink alcohol, I am

658
00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:38,600
Speaker 3: no good on Monday. It just I'm not worth anything.

659
00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:41,640
Speaker 3: I get smoke all I want Sunday, going to practice

660
00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:44,120
Speaker 3: Monday and kick everybody's eyes. It doesn't mess with your

661
00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:48,200
Speaker 3: Maybe I've gone to tolerance to it or I don't know,

662
00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:50,440
Speaker 3: but it doesn't necessarily, especially if you're doing it clean,

663
00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:52,800
Speaker 3: if you like smoking off a bong or a vaporize

664
00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:54,560
Speaker 3: or something like that, I don't think it really affects

665
00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:56,160
Speaker 3: your lungs. If you're putting in a lot of tobacco,

666
00:29:56,240 --> 00:30:00,320
Speaker 3: that's a different story, okay, because it's we have a

667
00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:04,120
Speaker 3: different I definitely fal a message with your reflexes slightly,

668
00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:06,640
Speaker 3: so it's not something you want to do with your

669
00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:09,880
Speaker 3: reaction time, you know, like that pause, you know, like,

670
00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:11,680
Speaker 3: oh I didn't see that, you know. So I definitely

671
00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:15,920
Speaker 3: wouldn't recommend people to be smoking, maybe before they have

672
00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:18,520
Speaker 3: a pro bow. But if you just training, it doesn't

673
00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:20,120
Speaker 3: really throw you off too much.

674
00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:22,520
Speaker 1: Kimbo, you said, you know, kind of gave you your

675
00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:23,920
Speaker 1: shot and all that stuff.

676
00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:26,440
Speaker 2: Talk about what he meant to you.

677
00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:29,480
Speaker 1: You're so sad, you know his passing because I feel like,

678
00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:31,920
Speaker 1: you know, he passed before social media. I mean, social

679
00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:35,040
Speaker 1: media's grown, like he would have continued to because he

680
00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:40,120
Speaker 1: had such a presence and legacy. And you know, I

681
00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:41,920
Speaker 1: was always tripped out by him because when he be

682
00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:43,840
Speaker 1: fighting it like this, and then when you hear him talking,

683
00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:46,560
Speaker 1: it's like, is this the same person? Like his on

684
00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:48,920
Speaker 1: and off switch with like two different people. But talk

685
00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:50,520
Speaker 1: about your memories of Kimbo.

686
00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:54,680
Speaker 3: Me personally is just a humbleized dude, you know, one

687
00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:56,840
Speaker 3: I always say to the interviews because it kind of

688
00:30:56,880 --> 00:30:59,360
Speaker 3: showed me also how you're supposed to be, how man

689
00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:01,720
Speaker 3: in the sports to carry himself. We went out to

690
00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:05,200
Speaker 3: have lunch, a random restaurant and everybody's staring Like I'm

691
00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:08,000
Speaker 3: telling you, if Michael Jackson was getting a million views

692
00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:10,880
Speaker 3: per episode, Kimba was getting like thirty million per fight.

693
00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:13,400
Speaker 3: It was the fucking crazy shit. We walk in the restaurant.

694
00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:16,120
Speaker 3: Everybody's just staring at him, but he's this big, fucking

695
00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:18,480
Speaker 3: mean looking gorilla and nobody wants to like make eye

696
00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:20,520
Speaker 3: contact your shirts is that Kimba? And you can see

697
00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:23,320
Speaker 3: everybody's like that, And then one guy with enough courage

698
00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:26,480
Speaker 3: finally goes, hey, can I get a picture? Kim was like, helly, yeah,

699
00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:28,960
Speaker 3: come on. That set off the whole restaurant. Maybe he

700
00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:31,320
Speaker 3: spent like an hour doing pictures after that, and guess

701
00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:33,000
Speaker 3: what he did it with a smile and his face,

702
00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:35,320
Speaker 3: shook everybody's hand, gave everybody like a minute or two

703
00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:37,440
Speaker 3: of his time, and had like as much as you

704
00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:39,880
Speaker 3: could have a genuine conversation for those two minutes with

705
00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:41,800
Speaker 3: everybody in there. That that's a picture. And that wasn't

706
00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:45,480
Speaker 3: at just that place. I was everywhere he went. It

707
00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:48,440
Speaker 3: is menacing. And he looked and as the forces you look,

708
00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:51,360
Speaker 3: treated everybody with respect, the janet in the building, that

709
00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:53,560
Speaker 3: it didn't matter who it was you talked to him,

710
00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:55,360
Speaker 3: and he talked to you right back like a human being.

711
00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:57,360
Speaker 3: You know. So I was always something that I loved

712
00:31:57,400 --> 00:32:01,000
Speaker 3: about him because like we see it all the time,

713
00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:03,000
Speaker 3: like fighters abusing and their power and shit. I don't

714
00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:05,440
Speaker 3: like that. You know, they just get crazy they you know,

715
00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:08,880
Speaker 3: or just think that somebody's uh you know, like I'm

716
00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:10,560
Speaker 3: sure you because you've been around your whole life like

717
00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:12,920
Speaker 3: celebrities treating like the help like shit or something that

718
00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:14,840
Speaker 3: things that I don't really like. You know, Kimball was

719
00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:16,360
Speaker 3: never like that either, you know, so something that I

720
00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:18,720
Speaker 3: loved a lot, you know that he was. Also he

721
00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:20,600
Speaker 3: comes from a very humble place. That's why he always

722
00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:21,880
Speaker 3: stayed hungry, I think, you know right.

723
00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:24,520
Speaker 1: I mean, I just think his success would and his

724
00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:27,520
Speaker 1: persona and the podcasts and the murder, he just would

725
00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:30,600
Speaker 1: have continued to thrive almost I think more after he

726
00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:32,920
Speaker 1: would have stopped fighting, yeah, because it would have just

727
00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:35,440
Speaker 1: been like almost how tight and you just get more beloved.

728
00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:40,680
Speaker 2: Saturday Night was the fights? Pourier? Is it true?

729
00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:45,920
Speaker 1: You bet one hundred thousand dollars break this down to me? Well,

730
00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:47,920
Speaker 1: I know that sucks to even have to say. I

731
00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:50,560
Speaker 1: felt the pain from you saying yes.

732
00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:54,720
Speaker 3: So I've been friends with DP for like ten years,

733
00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:57,760
Speaker 3: you know, teammates I he got to American Top Team,

734
00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:00,480
Speaker 3: and uh, we were kind of like, we're already knew

735
00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:03,080
Speaker 3: who was We had high prospects from back back then,

736
00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:04,400
Speaker 3: and I got to know him more and more and

737
00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:06,800
Speaker 3: I was like, but this guy's dog, this guy's amazing,

738
00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:09,200
Speaker 3: you know. And through those ten years, we beating the

739
00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:11,000
Speaker 3: crap out of each other left and right, getting each

740
00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:14,120
Speaker 3: other ready for our biggest moments. So his first fight

741
00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:16,200
Speaker 3: in Connor, he lost some one, which I better on,

742
00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:19,800
Speaker 3: and the second fight I got paid because nobody thought

743
00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:21,400
Speaker 3: he was gonna win, So I bet it on that

744
00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:23,360
Speaker 3: one big and also better like on the third one.

745
00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:25,680
Speaker 3: So I'm kind of always betting on Dustin. You know,

746
00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:27,880
Speaker 3: this one, I put a lot of money up and

747
00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:32,440
Speaker 3: he was the favorite, so kind of even if I

748
00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:33,880
Speaker 3: would have won, you know, you don't make as much

749
00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:36,200
Speaker 3: as you put in. But there's other times that I'm

750
00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:38,280
Speaker 3: not mad. Bro, I'm not mad that I lost money.

751
00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:40,200
Speaker 3: You know, it just sucks. I'm mad that my boy

752
00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:42,720
Speaker 3: didn't win the fight. That's what really hurts. One hundred

753
00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:47,440
Speaker 3: thousand dollars money comes and goes and shout out to

754
00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:49,440
Speaker 3: my bookie dot Ag because nobody wanted to take the fight.

755
00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:51,560
Speaker 3: I called like four fucking people. Know nobody wanted to

756
00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:52,760
Speaker 3: take the bat, you know, and it was a little

757
00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:54,360
Speaker 3: bit sporadic. I was like, I got a little bit

758
00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:56,840
Speaker 3: of money. I feel safe about this fight. I've been

759
00:33:56,840 --> 00:33:58,800
Speaker 3: watching my boy in training camp. I've been talking to

760
00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:02,560
Speaker 3: the coaches. Everybody says he's in peak performance. I went

761
00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:03,920
Speaker 3: out there and put it and it didn't go my word,

762
00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:05,880
Speaker 3: But it's a fight game. Man. That first run it

763
00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:07,400
Speaker 3: looked like he was gonna take it home. Then all

764
00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:09,319
Speaker 3: of a sudden it's over.

765
00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:13,880
Speaker 1: How surprising. I was surprised. I mean, but this, this

766
00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:16,600
Speaker 1: has become this trend. These kicks to the fucking head.

767
00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:19,960
Speaker 3: Kicks don't forgive man. There's no patting on the shin bone.

768
00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:21,719
Speaker 3: This is the strongest part of your body. It's the

769
00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:24,400
Speaker 3: heaviest part of your body, so you'd be surprised. Sometimes

770
00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:26,920
Speaker 3: the kick is not even that hard, but it's got

771
00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:29,839
Speaker 3: so much mass behind it. It's just rex people. Man,

772
00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:31,880
Speaker 3: there's no coming back from a kick usually, you know,

773
00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:33,000
Speaker 3: a proper kick, you know.

774
00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:36,200
Speaker 2: Because it also it seems like what it did with him?

775
00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:36,879
Speaker 2: Was it.

776
00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:38,880
Speaker 1: It's almost like, I guess there's what is there something here?

777
00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:41,120
Speaker 1: An artery cut you off?

778
00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:42,719
Speaker 2: I could? I mean, what do you want to do?

779
00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:45,440
Speaker 2: What are you want to do? I see you making moves.

780
00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:49,200
Speaker 3: See when you get hit in the neck. It's also

781
00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:51,040
Speaker 3: like a delayed if that's what I'm saying. It looked

782
00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:52,960
Speaker 3: like that. Yeah, It's like you get hit and then

783
00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:55,760
Speaker 3: a second aight, you collapse. You know, all the vibration

784
00:34:55,880 --> 00:34:57,640
Speaker 3: ends up going to the head, but until it gets here,

785
00:34:57,680 --> 00:34:59,279
Speaker 3: that's where we see like that delay, you know, so

786
00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:02,640
Speaker 3: you get hit here and then it travels up and like, man,

787
00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:04,640
Speaker 3: it's just bad. You know. I'm glad that I hung

788
00:35:04,680 --> 00:35:06,960
Speaker 3: out with DP some considerable time after the fight and

789
00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:09,480
Speaker 3: he was fine. He wasn't slurring his words or anything.

790
00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:13,200
Speaker 3: He was no concussion, I think, definitely no concussion from

791
00:35:13,239 --> 00:35:14,640
Speaker 3: what the doctor says. So I was just happy that

792
00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:16,759
Speaker 3: he didn't get hurt. And I feel like if they

793
00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:19,200
Speaker 3: fought again, it could be the complete opposite.

794
00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:19,680
Speaker 2: I agree.

795
00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:21,880
Speaker 3: Result you know, these are two of the finest dogs

796
00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:23,759
Speaker 3: in the sport. These guys go for the kill every time.

797
00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:25,400
Speaker 3: That's why this fight was so intriguing, you know.

798
00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:28,800
Speaker 1: When you say we beat each other, ask in practice,

799
00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:32,239
Speaker 1: you know, when you're training partners, what do you mean?

800
00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:35,000
Speaker 1: Like are you guys like are you I guess there's

801
00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:37,239
Speaker 1: no way to avoid it's not basketball, or like I'm

802
00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:39,320
Speaker 1: gonna bust your ass and I you know, I shut

803
00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:39,719
Speaker 1: you out.

804
00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:42,040
Speaker 3: And hurt him, but you bust your ass. Yeah, I'm

805
00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:44,920
Speaker 3: fighting though, we're gonna you're gonna hurt each other to

806
00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:47,720
Speaker 3: an extent, Like okay, I'll give you point in example,

807
00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:49,480
Speaker 3: like me and Deep because we're both kind of like

808
00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:51,919
Speaker 3: very much a similar type of athlete in the gym,

809
00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:55,400
Speaker 3: Like if you're going controlled, we can go hard and

810
00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:58,040
Speaker 3: go controlled, or we could go fight speed like me

811
00:35:58,080 --> 00:36:00,759
Speaker 3: and Dustin were very known for doing that at the gym.

812
00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:02,799
Speaker 3: Like if you're throwing like it's a fight, I'm throwing

813
00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:03,719
Speaker 3: like it's a fight too.

814
00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:06,040
Speaker 1: And are you guys talking about that beforehand or is

815
00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:07,200
Speaker 1: it kind of you feeling that it's.

816
00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:09,160
Speaker 3: Always like the coaches, the coaches don't want you going

817
00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:11,200
Speaker 3: one hundred percent, right, So the coaches are gonna have

818
00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:13,360
Speaker 3: you work out with him and him today and me and.

819
00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:15,839
Speaker 2: Because him, I'd like to fuck him up this one.

820
00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:18,160
Speaker 3: That one right there, we're taking him in the gym. Yeah, him,

821
00:36:18,200 --> 00:36:19,200
Speaker 3: I got a gym nearby.

822
00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:21,400
Speaker 2: I mean particularly like, I mean, i'd like that.

823
00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:22,880
Speaker 3: You know, the bodyguard, is it him?

824
00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:23,880
Speaker 2: He's that's my muscle.

825
00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:26,640
Speaker 3: That's that's the one that's on the video. That's a bodyguard.

826
00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:28,759
Speaker 3: That's my muscle. Right, Yeah, you gotta train him. You

827
00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:31,080
Speaker 3: gotta train him. But so go ahead, break that down

828
00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:33,480
Speaker 3: to me, so you know you're gonna get let's say

829
00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:36,560
Speaker 3: you're gonna do You're gonna get ready for fire round fights.

830
00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:38,160
Speaker 3: You're gonna do two rounds for him. He gonna do

831
00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:40,799
Speaker 3: two rounds for him, two rounds, do six rounds total, right,

832
00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:43,120
Speaker 3: to get you ready for this. So it's it's not

833
00:36:43,160 --> 00:36:45,000
Speaker 3: that the coaches want him to go one hundred percent

834
00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:46,480
Speaker 3: and then you're gonna get another fresh guy and they

835
00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:48,320
Speaker 3: wanting them to go one hundred percent with the strikes

836
00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:50,200
Speaker 3: and possibly hurt you with the grappling and wrestling. It's

837
00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:52,360
Speaker 3: a little different because you don't get hurt if somebody

838
00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:55,640
Speaker 3: like you just you know, you top and the striking,

839
00:36:55,680 --> 00:36:58,040
Speaker 3: if I hit you hard, you might get hurt, you know.

840
00:36:58,120 --> 00:37:01,200
Speaker 3: So it's not always a vies to go one hundred

841
00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:04,080
Speaker 3: and one hundred. But it does happen in the practice

842
00:37:04,080 --> 00:37:06,879
Speaker 3: because you know, we're both pros, and like you let

843
00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:08,919
Speaker 3: off a shot that was rather hard, and it's like, okay,

844
00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:10,839
Speaker 3: I'll give you that one. You know. Then we keep

845
00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:12,319
Speaker 3: going I'm getting the better of you. And then you

846
00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:15,560
Speaker 3: throw another shot full blast. Okay, that's that's number two.

847
00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:17,839
Speaker 3: You know, some guys right then and there will turn

848
00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:20,120
Speaker 3: it into a fight. Some guys might give you a

849
00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:21,440
Speaker 3: break and be like, all right, you know, if you

850
00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:23,360
Speaker 3: throw another one like that, it's on. We're gonna have

851
00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:25,040
Speaker 3: to go to war. And that's the type of guy

852
00:37:25,120 --> 00:37:27,839
Speaker 3: like like Dustin is like Dustin's actually you throw one

853
00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:29,600
Speaker 3: heart at him, he's gonna come take your head off.

854
00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:32,160
Speaker 3: He's just a known for being a mean guy in practice.

855
00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:34,880
Speaker 3: But we're getting practice just beat the crap out of

856
00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:36,839
Speaker 3: each other. But a good way though, you know, because

857
00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:39,719
Speaker 3: he would never he'd have chances to, like land a

858
00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:41,800
Speaker 3: very devastating blow to my head. He wouldn't throw it

859
00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:43,600
Speaker 3: to my head full blast, not to the body. He's

860
00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:46,759
Speaker 3: not taking it easy, and neither might because we're helping

861
00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:48,799
Speaker 3: each other build conditions, so it might seem like we're

862
00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:52,120
Speaker 3: trying to hurt each other, but you know what you're doing. Yeah, yeah,

863
00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:54,799
Speaker 3: you know, and it's pulling it some. It's exactly like

864
00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:56,080
Speaker 3: if I hit him in the head, I don't want

865
00:37:56,080 --> 00:37:57,800
Speaker 3: to do it over like a seventy eighty percent, you know,

866
00:37:57,800 --> 00:37:59,279
Speaker 3: because I want to take care of him and I

867
00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:01,000
Speaker 3: want to learn. Also want to beat him up because

868
00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:02,760
Speaker 3: I have to score as much as I can to

869
00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:05,239
Speaker 3: get better. So there's that fine line.

870
00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:08,360
Speaker 1: You know, who else did you have his training partners?

871
00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:11,560
Speaker 1: There's guys that you trained with. What's his name, the fucking.

872
00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:16,720
Speaker 2: The one you fought, the fucking Maga fuck up Kobe.

873
00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:19,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, your relationship, you guys were friends.

874
00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:23,359
Speaker 3: We were friends. Man, He's not roommates. He was living

875
00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:26,080
Speaker 3: in my apartment, staying in your crip on your couch. Yeah.

876
00:38:26,160 --> 00:38:29,480
Speaker 3: He had just left the college circuit, you know, and

877
00:38:29,520 --> 00:38:32,080
Speaker 3: I was already established. Bro. I had like fifteen to

878
00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:35,640
Speaker 3: eighteen fights, and he broke his hand, his fucking girlfriend

879
00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:37,759
Speaker 3: dumped him. He was out living in the streets. And

880
00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:40,439
Speaker 3: we're in the same like program. You know, we're training

881
00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:41,960
Speaker 3: all day long at the gymnast, and I'm like, man,

882
00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:44,120
Speaker 3: I got an extra couch, you could say, there until

883
00:38:44,120 --> 00:38:46,200
Speaker 3: you figure the shit out. You know, and then when

884
00:38:46,239 --> 00:38:48,400
Speaker 3: it came time to fight each other, instead of like

885
00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:50,759
Speaker 3: we don't we don't have to go towards like talking

886
00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:53,600
Speaker 3: about each other's wives or kids or kids and things

887
00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:55,840
Speaker 3: like that, because not only do we have a background,

888
00:38:55,840 --> 00:38:57,200
Speaker 3: but you just don't have to like me and you're

889
00:38:57,200 --> 00:38:59,080
Speaker 3: gonna fight already. I don't believe in selling a fight.

890
00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:00,920
Speaker 3: I have to talk about your wife for kids, I

891
00:39:00,920 --> 00:39:03,600
Speaker 3: can talk about you, but like your technique sucks. You

892
00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:06,040
Speaker 3: ain't this that, but he took it to another line

893
00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:07,400
Speaker 3: just to sell pay per views, so that let me

894
00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:08,480
Speaker 3: know the type of person that he is.

895
00:39:08,520 --> 00:39:11,799
Speaker 1: You know, how frustrating because I know you wanted that fight,

896
00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:15,759
Speaker 1: Like there's some fights where you know it's easy work

897
00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:16,600
Speaker 1: the ben ass grin.

898
00:39:16,719 --> 00:39:18,959
Speaker 2: You know, you know you might not even have time

899
00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:19,960
Speaker 2: to you know, I.

900
00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:23,200
Speaker 1: Have you know, I don't know what your feelings were

901
00:39:23,239 --> 00:39:26,120
Speaker 1: with the time you thought Usman and Abu Dhabi. But

902
00:39:26,239 --> 00:39:29,600
Speaker 1: how frustrating was that to lose that fight because I

903
00:39:29,640 --> 00:39:31,560
Speaker 1: wanted you to kick his fucking ass.

904
00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:35,640
Speaker 3: I wanted to kick his fucking teeth into Definitely frustrating man.

905
00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:38,560
Speaker 3: I had, uh, it's just the fight game, you know,

906
00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:42,359
Speaker 3: maybe like a month before, I had gotten a flu

907
00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:44,000
Speaker 3: so bad that I thought I had corona for the

908
00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:45,440
Speaker 3: first time in my life. So I went and got

909
00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:47,680
Speaker 3: tested and everything. I did all the tests and no,

910
00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:50,600
Speaker 3: I didn't have corona, but I did have the flu,

911
00:39:50,680 --> 00:39:53,040
Speaker 3: and I get I have this for about two weeks.

912
00:39:53,239 --> 00:39:54,960
Speaker 3: Then I got two weeks and boom, it's fight time,

913
00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:56,680
Speaker 3: you know. So my weight had shot up. It had

914
00:39:56,680 --> 00:39:58,400
Speaker 3: gotten very very low when I was sick. Then when

915
00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:00,879
Speaker 3: I got unsack, my weight shot up. So it was like,

916
00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:02,719
Speaker 3: it's always going to be bitter in my mouth because

917
00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:05,280
Speaker 3: I feel on that day I wasn't one hundred percent

918
00:40:05,520 --> 00:40:07,239
Speaker 3: what I could have given to that fight. And I

919
00:40:07,239 --> 00:40:08,640
Speaker 3: can't take it away from him because he is a

920
00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:11,520
Speaker 3: good wrestler. I need to be on point for the

921
00:40:11,520 --> 00:40:13,279
Speaker 3: the type of fight that he brings. He's not a fighter.

922
00:40:13,320 --> 00:40:14,680
Speaker 3: He's not gonna try to punch me in the face,

923
00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:16,200
Speaker 3: he's not going to try to near able, but he

924
00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:18,040
Speaker 3: is going to try to just hug it out literally

925
00:40:18,040 --> 00:40:20,920
Speaker 3: and stalemate it and not fight. And for that I

926
00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:22,960
Speaker 3: had to be a little bit more prepared and I

927
00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:24,759
Speaker 3: wasn't in that day. So it's always one that, uh,

928
00:40:25,239 --> 00:40:26,600
Speaker 3: maybe I had to come out every time and just

929
00:40:26,600 --> 00:40:27,840
Speaker 3: go bust his fucking face.

930
00:40:27,880 --> 00:40:31,920
Speaker 2: You know that was me because I wanted you to

931
00:40:31,920 --> 00:40:34,480
Speaker 2: win that me too. Man, Explain to me.

932
00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:37,279
Speaker 1: I know it's all different times, you know, but it's

933
00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:38,520
Speaker 1: such a foreign thing.

934
00:40:39,520 --> 00:40:40,200
Speaker 2: Explain to me.

935
00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:43,520
Speaker 1: You're going the end of the fourth round, You're in

936
00:40:43,560 --> 00:40:50,239
Speaker 1: a war, You're you're fighting. Explaining the mentality of you

937
00:40:50,320 --> 00:40:54,200
Speaker 1: as a fighter. Are you in pain? Can you hear

938
00:40:54,239 --> 00:40:57,560
Speaker 1: the crowd? Are you thinking just tactical? Like what's going

939
00:40:57,560 --> 00:41:00,520
Speaker 1: on in between those rounds? When you know, like I'm

940
00:41:00,560 --> 00:41:03,120
Speaker 1: in a fight. This guy is no joke. I'm no joke,

941
00:41:03,200 --> 00:41:06,439
Speaker 1: and we're giving everything we hear, Like where's your head

942
00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:09,200
Speaker 1: at at that point? And like are you feeling pain

943
00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:10,320
Speaker 1: or is it varies?

944
00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:14,919
Speaker 3: It varies? So let me say I away, I could

945
00:41:14,920 --> 00:41:17,080
Speaker 3: describe the pain. Let's say I throw a kick and

946
00:41:17,120 --> 00:41:19,440
Speaker 3: you checked it right, maybe at the time it hurt

947
00:41:19,480 --> 00:41:22,000
Speaker 3: a little bit, and then throw out the fight. It

948
00:41:22,160 --> 00:41:24,440
Speaker 3: stays with me, but it's just the way that I

949
00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:26,960
Speaker 3: see it. It's like something will be. It's not that I

950
00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:29,200
Speaker 3: can't walk or nothing like that, because at that time,

951
00:41:29,239 --> 00:41:31,520
Speaker 3: you're so focused. You've had these two three hours, you've

952
00:41:31,520 --> 00:41:33,480
Speaker 3: had the eight weeks of prepare and then three hours

953
00:41:33,520 --> 00:41:36,239
Speaker 3: back stage just going through every scenario in your head.

954
00:41:36,440 --> 00:41:39,480
Speaker 3: You're ready to go through any scenario. Now there's definitely pain, like,

955
00:41:39,520 --> 00:41:42,120
Speaker 3: oh he checked that Caick. I could feel my bone

956
00:41:42,239 --> 00:41:44,440
Speaker 3: like throbbing or whatever. But it's not gonna stop me

957
00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:48,120
Speaker 3: from like throwing your adrenals. The adrenaline is pumping. Crowd

958
00:41:48,200 --> 00:41:50,359
Speaker 3: is cheering. You know, they're cheering so loud. You can't

959
00:41:50,360 --> 00:41:52,799
Speaker 3: hear your corner until you go in the break. You

960
00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:54,800
Speaker 3: can't hear between the round because you're so loud. I

961
00:41:54,840 --> 00:41:56,759
Speaker 3: can't hear anything in my corner and they're saying. Then

962
00:41:56,800 --> 00:41:59,440
Speaker 3: when I sit down, it's really about forty five seconds.

963
00:41:59,440 --> 00:42:01,920
Speaker 3: I'll have to give you instructions because we get a minute,

964
00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:04,600
Speaker 3: but you can't be late, so they blow the whistle

965
00:42:04,640 --> 00:42:06,120
Speaker 3: like at thirty seconds. You got to get out of it.

966
00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:09,640
Speaker 3: So those instructions are like very small, And to me personally,

967
00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:12,759
Speaker 3: what really mattered was how tired I was, because then

968
00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:15,120
Speaker 3: I could like process that the information. So if I

969
00:42:15,160 --> 00:42:16,680
Speaker 3: was tired, it was more of an emotional thing. With

970
00:42:16,760 --> 00:42:18,400
Speaker 3: my coach would be like, suck it up. We gotta win.

971
00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:19,399
Speaker 3: You're better than this guy.

972
00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:20,200
Speaker 2: Suck it up. Let's go.

973
00:42:20,560 --> 00:42:23,080
Speaker 3: And if it was a technical thing, then they talked

974
00:42:23,080 --> 00:42:25,120
Speaker 3: to me about like a technical thing. But me personally,

975
00:42:25,160 --> 00:42:28,480
Speaker 3: I always noticed the more prepared I was for that moment,

976
00:42:28,560 --> 00:42:31,080
Speaker 3: which is something that's always in your capacity. The only

977
00:42:31,120 --> 00:42:32,880
Speaker 3: thing that you could really do in a fight is

978
00:42:32,960 --> 00:42:34,960
Speaker 3: be in shape and be in the best shape possible,

979
00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:37,279
Speaker 3: because that's in your hands, right that if you ran

980
00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:39,360
Speaker 3: those mouths and did the jump rope and swimming and

981
00:42:39,360 --> 00:42:41,600
Speaker 3: all that, that's in your hands. That's in your control.

982
00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:44,239
Speaker 3: So that's something always that I would try to be

983
00:42:44,320 --> 00:42:46,640
Speaker 3: under control. And the more that I was in shape,

984
00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:50,400
Speaker 3: the more that I could solve this math problem. You know,

985
00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:52,360
Speaker 3: people are screaming. I could barely hear my coach. This

986
00:42:52,400 --> 00:42:55,799
Speaker 3: guy's landing in a couple of shots. But breathe, settle down.

987
00:42:55,880 --> 00:42:57,520
Speaker 3: It's a fight. It's what I love to do. And

988
00:42:57,560 --> 00:42:59,239
Speaker 3: what are the instructions? Okay, let me try and do

989
00:42:59,280 --> 00:43:00,799
Speaker 3: that nowroun things like that.

990
00:43:01,160 --> 00:43:04,399
Speaker 1: How much instruction, I mean, you've you've done everything, you've

991
00:43:04,440 --> 00:43:07,760
Speaker 1: backyard foot, you've sparred, you've boxed, you mma'd, you fucking

992
00:43:08,280 --> 00:43:13,120
Speaker 1: you've won, you've lost. You know how much instruction can

993
00:43:13,160 --> 00:43:16,360
Speaker 1: actually help somebody at your level or at the championship level,

994
00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:18,880
Speaker 1: and like, what would you mean, like by instruction that

995
00:43:18,880 --> 00:43:22,040
Speaker 1: would actually register in between round three and four, that

996
00:43:22,080 --> 00:43:24,160
Speaker 1: would you be able to process.

997
00:43:23,760 --> 00:43:26,840
Speaker 3: Oh me personally? Again, going back to I've worked in

998
00:43:26,880 --> 00:43:29,880
Speaker 3: a lot of corners, depending on how tired the guys is,

999
00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:32,840
Speaker 3: how much instruction. If the guys like can't get it together,

1000
00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:34,719
Speaker 3: you want to be simple things like hey, he keeps

1001
00:43:34,800 --> 00:43:37,399
Speaker 3: hitting on the left hand side, heuse your left hands down,

1002
00:43:37,480 --> 00:43:39,719
Speaker 3: keep your left hand up, stand the phone on this side.

1003
00:43:39,719 --> 00:43:41,759
Speaker 3: Stand the phone, you know, like simple things like that.

1004
00:43:41,880 --> 00:43:45,000
Speaker 3: The guy's like more, he has a good gas hanging

1005
00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:47,120
Speaker 3: and he can tell everything that you're talking about. Maybe

1006
00:43:47,120 --> 00:43:49,000
Speaker 3: you go back into the strategy. But even at this

1007
00:43:49,120 --> 00:43:52,080
Speaker 3: level or at the lowest levels, it's tremendous, you know,

1008
00:43:52,120 --> 00:43:54,640
Speaker 3: because it's a fighting and a split second it could change.

1009
00:43:54,640 --> 00:43:54,759
Speaker 1: You know.

1010
00:43:54,880 --> 00:43:56,640
Speaker 3: Let's say I hite you to the body a couple

1011
00:43:56,640 --> 00:43:58,919
Speaker 3: of times, so now you have this like tendency where

1012
00:43:58,920 --> 00:44:01,040
Speaker 3: you're like trying to block this body shot. And now

1013
00:44:01,040 --> 00:44:03,319
Speaker 3: I'll be like, hey, in the start of the next run,

1014
00:44:03,440 --> 00:44:05,400
Speaker 3: go hard to the body and then go hard to

1015
00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:08,160
Speaker 3: the face, you know, and that might be the winning combination,

1016
00:44:08,320 --> 00:44:10,960
Speaker 3: right there same thing in the grappling department. The guy

1017
00:44:11,040 --> 00:44:12,719
Speaker 3: might be getting a lot of takedowns, but the way

1018
00:44:12,760 --> 00:44:14,440
Speaker 3: he's doing it, he's leaving his neck out and the

1019
00:44:14,480 --> 00:44:16,600
Speaker 3: coach tells him guillotine the next time he goes for

1020
00:44:16,680 --> 00:44:18,720
Speaker 3: the double A give it all you got.

1021
00:44:18,600 --> 00:44:21,000
Speaker 2: And you're registering all this, and obviously whether.

1022
00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:22,960
Speaker 3: You could do it or not is something else. But

1023
00:44:23,080 --> 00:44:24,759
Speaker 3: usually what I always see is the guys that are

1024
00:44:24,760 --> 00:44:27,120
Speaker 3: in better shape, the guys that are like, Okay, I'm

1025
00:44:27,120 --> 00:44:29,560
Speaker 3: not overwhelmed by this environment. I'm sitting down this another

1026
00:44:29,600 --> 00:44:31,480
Speaker 3: day in the gym. What are the instruction coaches? Those

1027
00:44:31,520 --> 00:44:34,240
Speaker 3: are the ones that could usually do better with that information.

1028
00:44:51,320 --> 00:44:53,399
Speaker 1: I'm asking you this with respect because I'm just such

1029
00:44:53,400 --> 00:44:55,440
Speaker 1: a fan of boxing, such a fan of what you

1030
00:44:55,440 --> 00:44:59,080
Speaker 1: guys do when you get knocked out.

1031
00:45:00,680 --> 00:45:02,919
Speaker 2: The Usmann punch him and that was a brutal funk

1032
00:45:03,040 --> 00:45:03,640
Speaker 2: and it was so.

1033
00:45:03,800 --> 00:45:05,440
Speaker 3: Quick, and I thought he was going for a takedown.

1034
00:45:05,480 --> 00:45:07,560
Speaker 3: That's what really got me off. Card I didn't think

1035
00:45:07,560 --> 00:45:10,399
Speaker 3: he was going for a punch. You Okay, why were

1036
00:45:10,400 --> 00:45:12,319
Speaker 3: you thinking that? Because the way he moved the way

1037
00:45:12,480 --> 00:45:15,480
Speaker 3: so it's the position of his level change in his head.

1038
00:45:15,760 --> 00:45:17,960
Speaker 3: So I'll show you real quick on camera. You shoot

1039
00:45:18,040 --> 00:45:19,720
Speaker 3: and you go like this, and I go for the legs.

1040
00:45:20,040 --> 00:45:21,719
Speaker 3: So he does. He did that over and over in

1041
00:45:21,719 --> 00:45:23,839
Speaker 3: the first fight, in the first round of the second fight,

1042
00:45:24,120 --> 00:45:26,080
Speaker 3: and then he does it again. He goes like this, but.

1043
00:45:26,080 --> 00:45:28,320
Speaker 2: This time he comes up and you went down.

1044
00:45:28,440 --> 00:45:32,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I my immediate reaction is, Oh, he's going

1045
00:45:32,320 --> 00:45:34,640
Speaker 3: for a takedown. Then I start to see no, he's

1046
00:45:34,680 --> 00:45:36,480
Speaker 3: not going for a takedown. He's punching. So I start

1047
00:45:36,560 --> 00:45:38,640
Speaker 3: to punch with him. The counter that punch, and it

1048
00:45:38,760 --> 00:45:41,239
Speaker 3: was already too close, you know, by the time I

1049
00:45:41,280 --> 00:45:42,040
Speaker 3: made that decision.

1050
00:45:42,840 --> 00:45:48,840
Speaker 1: And when you come through, are you cognizant of where

1051
00:45:48,880 --> 00:45:49,160
Speaker 1: you are?

1052
00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:51,520
Speaker 2: What happened? Do you realize what you just showed me

1053
00:45:51,640 --> 00:45:52,040
Speaker 2: just now?

1054
00:45:52,280 --> 00:45:54,480
Speaker 3: Yes? No? No, At the time, I didn't know all

1055
00:45:54,520 --> 00:45:56,560
Speaker 3: that At the time. When I first get woken up,

1056
00:45:58,400 --> 00:46:01,319
Speaker 3: I'm looking around, I'm like, what did I win? Was

1057
00:46:01,320 --> 00:46:04,600
Speaker 3: the first thing I said? They go, no, no, you didn't.

1058
00:46:04,640 --> 00:46:06,520
Speaker 3: You look at the screen, my coaches are telling me,

1059
00:46:06,840 --> 00:46:09,399
Speaker 3: and I look in real life hits you like, oh shit,

1060
00:46:09,480 --> 00:46:12,799
Speaker 3: I've never been knocked out. That's me limp on the

1061
00:46:12,840 --> 00:46:13,680
Speaker 3: fucking floor, And.

1062
00:46:13,640 --> 00:46:15,239
Speaker 2: Are you thinking what you're seeing on the screen is

1063
00:46:15,280 --> 00:46:16,240
Speaker 2: like almost like a movie.

1064
00:46:16,400 --> 00:46:18,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, well it feels like that one hundred percent, Like

1065
00:46:18,600 --> 00:46:21,160
Speaker 3: I just walked up and just watching somebody. Yeah, like

1066
00:46:21,200 --> 00:46:23,239
Speaker 3: I'm in the hospital watching TV or something, you know,

1067
00:46:23,440 --> 00:46:26,200
Speaker 3: because the feeling is so weird and what's going on

1068
00:46:26,280 --> 00:46:28,560
Speaker 3: and people are changing it. That took about a minute

1069
00:46:28,600 --> 00:46:30,600
Speaker 3: and then it's like, yeah, this is real life, you know,

1070
00:46:30,960 --> 00:46:33,680
Speaker 3: and I have I got lucky that I got submitted

1071
00:46:33,719 --> 00:46:36,520
Speaker 3: Like fifteen years ago, I was winning all three rounds

1072
00:46:36,520 --> 00:46:38,400
Speaker 3: a minute and a half to go. I get submitted

1073
00:46:38,480 --> 00:46:41,479
Speaker 3: with a choke that ended up being choke of the year.

1074
00:46:41,920 --> 00:46:44,399
Speaker 3: Something crazy. He got submission of the year Tobia mott

1075
00:46:44,480 --> 00:46:47,240
Speaker 3: up And that was like the same feeding. The referee

1076
00:46:47,280 --> 00:46:48,640
Speaker 3: woke me up and I was winning the whole fight,

1077
00:46:48,719 --> 00:46:50,799
Speaker 3: So I did Did I win? They're like, no, man,

1078
00:46:50,800 --> 00:46:52,600
Speaker 3: you got you got choked up? Put the sleep And

1079
00:46:52,640 --> 00:46:54,560
Speaker 3: that was like that first time it happened, it was

1080
00:46:54,640 --> 00:46:56,920
Speaker 3: so overwhelming that it only helped me out for the

1081
00:46:56,920 --> 00:46:58,520
Speaker 3: second one because when it happened the second time, I

1082
00:46:58,560 --> 00:47:00,839
Speaker 3: was like, all right, what's going on here?

1083
00:47:01,160 --> 00:47:01,920
Speaker 2: Do you is it?

1084
00:47:02,960 --> 00:47:06,200
Speaker 1: Because you're a tough motherfucker, You're a pride for motherfucker?

1085
00:47:06,640 --> 00:47:09,759
Speaker 1: Are you processing a loss. Is it going through your

1086
00:47:09,800 --> 00:47:11,680
Speaker 1: pride or is it just like it's happened to all

1087
00:47:11,680 --> 00:47:14,840
Speaker 1: of us, everyone's lost comedy.

1088
00:47:15,120 --> 00:47:17,959
Speaker 3: I'm first and foremost. It hits a pride tank right away,

1089
00:47:18,040 --> 00:47:20,359
Speaker 3: right like all these miles around, all the dieting I

1090
00:47:20,360 --> 00:47:22,120
Speaker 3: did all the year into this guy I got knocked

1091
00:47:22,160 --> 00:47:25,040
Speaker 3: out by. You know, you're dealing with that, and then

1092
00:47:25,360 --> 00:47:27,759
Speaker 3: you gotta also analyze, like, but but why what did

1093
00:47:27,760 --> 00:47:29,920
Speaker 3: I do? I did a technical mistake? Okay, cool, you

1094
00:47:29,960 --> 00:47:30,279
Speaker 3: got me.

1095
00:47:30,520 --> 00:47:33,600
Speaker 1: You know, do you dream of fighting? Always give me,

1096
00:47:33,640 --> 00:47:36,640
Speaker 1: give me something that you remember, good, bad, weird. I'm

1097
00:47:36,680 --> 00:47:38,600
Speaker 1: sure it's like you know, it's like ballet fighting, Like

1098
00:47:38,600 --> 00:47:40,520
Speaker 1: what what is? What are your dreams of fighting that

1099
00:47:40,600 --> 00:47:41,720
Speaker 1: you could that you remember?

1100
00:47:41,880 --> 00:47:44,840
Speaker 3: Here's something that I always didn't fighting, and I do

1101
00:47:44,880 --> 00:47:46,319
Speaker 3: it in life. Like let's say, if I have a

1102
00:47:46,360 --> 00:47:48,960
Speaker 3: meeting or something, I'll go, I'll fall asleep, like thinking

1103
00:47:49,000 --> 00:47:51,360
Speaker 3: about what I'm gonna do in the fight or what

1104
00:47:51,400 --> 00:47:53,000
Speaker 3: I'm gonna do the next day as far as like

1105
00:47:53,040 --> 00:47:55,480
Speaker 3: working out goes or whatever. But I've always done that,

1106
00:47:55,560 --> 00:47:59,560
Speaker 3: Like you know, for let's say, like Nate Diaz, I

1107
00:47:59,760 --> 00:48:03,320
Speaker 3: going into that fight I envisioned I went to sleep

1108
00:48:03,400 --> 00:48:05,040
Speaker 3: dreaming thing and that I would kick him to the

1109
00:48:05,040 --> 00:48:07,319
Speaker 3: body and I would drop him and it happened just

1110
00:48:07,440 --> 00:48:09,680
Speaker 3: like that. And it's something that I in my brain

1111
00:48:09,719 --> 00:48:11,719
Speaker 3: when I saw him fight, I go, oh, he's made

1112
00:48:11,800 --> 00:48:14,640
Speaker 3: for this technique right here that I actually do very well.

1113
00:48:14,880 --> 00:48:16,680
Speaker 3: So it's something that I would constantly see and right

1114
00:48:16,719 --> 00:48:18,160
Speaker 3: before I go to see. But I'm like, I'm thinking

1115
00:48:18,200 --> 00:48:20,359
Speaker 3: of all the setups I could do, so just land

1116
00:48:20,400 --> 00:48:22,719
Speaker 3: that kick, you know. So I was like, Oh, I'm

1117
00:48:22,760 --> 00:48:24,479
Speaker 3: pretty cool feeling when it happens in real life.

1118
00:48:24,600 --> 00:48:25,920
Speaker 2: I was at that fight, Yeah, I was.

1119
00:48:26,239 --> 00:48:26,879
Speaker 3: I was in New York.

1120
00:48:27,400 --> 00:48:28,479
Speaker 2: Do you think if.

1121
00:48:28,360 --> 00:48:30,359
Speaker 1: The fight had kept going, I was rooting for Nate

1122
00:48:30,800 --> 00:48:32,360
Speaker 1: and I'll tell you and I would go to our

1123
00:48:32,440 --> 00:48:34,080
Speaker 1: last thing because I love both of you guys. But

1124
00:48:34,120 --> 00:48:37,200
Speaker 1: I had to make an executive decision because your guy

1125
00:48:37,320 --> 00:48:38,240
Speaker 1: was at that fight.

1126
00:48:38,560 --> 00:48:40,759
Speaker 3: Uh Trump, and he was there for me.

1127
00:48:41,360 --> 00:48:43,839
Speaker 2: I fucking know that that.

1128
00:48:44,000 --> 00:48:46,640
Speaker 1: But that fight, obviously you're gonna say, no, if it

1129
00:48:46,680 --> 00:48:48,880
Speaker 1: had kept going, were you how tired were you?

1130
00:48:49,000 --> 00:48:50,040
Speaker 2: Was it that it stopped in the third?

1131
00:48:50,080 --> 00:48:51,960
Speaker 3: I mean he was, no, No, I was, I was.

1132
00:48:52,360 --> 00:48:54,680
Speaker 3: You know. I think they get clips of like my

1133
00:48:54,760 --> 00:48:56,920
Speaker 3: hands being over my head like I do that every fight.

1134
00:48:56,920 --> 00:48:58,719
Speaker 3: At a certain point, I'm just bringing my hands up

1135
00:48:58,760 --> 00:49:01,720
Speaker 3: so I'd get it like more oxygen, just air, breathe,

1136
00:49:01,760 --> 00:49:04,960
Speaker 3: stretch out. You know, I've never I've done numerous five

1137
00:49:05,040 --> 00:49:09,000
Speaker 3: round fights. I've never like let off the gas pedal.

1138
00:49:09,040 --> 00:49:11,000
Speaker 3: If strategy wise, a guy beat me, okay, you know

1139
00:49:11,040 --> 00:49:12,680
Speaker 3: he was able to take me down and control me.

1140
00:49:12,680 --> 00:49:15,440
Speaker 3: But I'm not going to get tired in my wheelhouse,

1141
00:49:15,480 --> 00:49:18,080
Speaker 3: and my wheelhouse is striking. It's never happened. I've given

1142
00:49:18,120 --> 00:49:20,719
Speaker 3: guys beatings for five rounds, for three rounds. I've never

1143
00:49:20,760 --> 00:49:23,960
Speaker 3: gotten tired from giving out the ass open. Maybe I

1144
00:49:23,960 --> 00:49:26,359
Speaker 3: haven't had my best performances when it's like a good

1145
00:49:26,400 --> 00:49:29,239
Speaker 3: strong grappler. It's putting me on the defense the whole time,

1146
00:49:29,480 --> 00:49:31,920
Speaker 3: and I might get tired in that department, But me

1147
00:49:32,040 --> 00:49:35,400
Speaker 3: throwing hammers, it's it's not going to happen, especially somebody

1148
00:49:35,480 --> 00:49:37,680
Speaker 3: took so much samorage. I always, for the life of me,

1149
00:49:37,719 --> 00:49:39,719
Speaker 3: wish it would have let it go because I would

1150
00:49:39,760 --> 00:49:41,759
Speaker 3: have gave him the proper barrier that he needed. You know,

1151
00:49:41,840 --> 00:49:43,600
Speaker 3: I had done a lot of work to the body,

1152
00:49:43,640 --> 00:49:46,279
Speaker 3: started in the first round, second round, and third and

1153
00:49:46,320 --> 00:49:48,480
Speaker 3: that only catches up to you. So let's say that

1154
00:49:49,160 --> 00:49:50,560
Speaker 3: I came in with a like if it was a

1155
00:49:50,640 --> 00:49:53,640
Speaker 3: video game, a salmina bar of eighty percent, and nadas

1156
00:49:53,680 --> 00:49:55,759
Speaker 3: came in with one of one hundred percent. By the

1157
00:49:55,800 --> 00:49:57,359
Speaker 3: time we get to the third round, he's not got

1158
00:49:57,400 --> 00:49:59,760
Speaker 3: forty percent two years of the body shots?

1159
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:02,440
Speaker 1: Do you it seemed like you guys both, I mean

1160
00:50:02,520 --> 00:50:04,880
Speaker 1: Nate's just you guys are so similar in terms of

1161
00:50:04,960 --> 00:50:09,200
Speaker 1: like it's like you burial, like he's not going it

1162
00:50:09,280 --> 00:50:10,279
Speaker 1: was fucking eyes hanging out.

1163
00:50:10,440 --> 00:50:12,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's going for it. He's going for it every time.

1164
00:50:12,280 --> 00:50:14,799
Speaker 2: Did you enjoy that fight?

1165
00:50:14,920 --> 00:50:15,000
Speaker 3: Like?

1166
00:50:15,040 --> 00:50:17,799
Speaker 2: Do you do you enjoy? Like you? Do you respect Nadias? Yeah?

1167
00:50:17,880 --> 00:50:20,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, I respect him a fucking ton. Bro. We've been

1168
00:50:22,000 --> 00:50:24,520
Speaker 3: different promotions, but like right there, very close to each

1169
00:50:24,560 --> 00:50:25,840
Speaker 3: other our whole careers.

1170
00:50:25,880 --> 00:50:28,359
Speaker 1: You know, how do you process that? Is it like,

1171
00:50:28,400 --> 00:50:30,560
Speaker 1: you know, the Lakers versus Golden State Warriors?

1172
00:50:30,600 --> 00:50:33,919
Speaker 3: Because me and you'll go play basketball. Are you gonna

1173
00:50:33,920 --> 00:50:34,359
Speaker 3: take it easy?

1174
00:50:34,400 --> 00:50:36,239
Speaker 2: I mean, fuck no, I'm gonna bust your ass.

1175
00:50:36,200 --> 00:50:38,319
Speaker 3: War How many you're gonna put I'm gonna give you

1176
00:50:38,360 --> 00:50:40,719
Speaker 3: like thirty thirty five. Maybe it's the same thing in

1177
00:50:40,719 --> 00:50:43,200
Speaker 3: my sport. I'm gonna put as many points as I

1178
00:50:43,200 --> 00:50:46,200
Speaker 3: can in your face. There's no real feelings involved in it,

1179
00:50:46,320 --> 00:50:49,920
Speaker 3: you know, because because I'm gonna do it too. Not

1180
00:50:49,960 --> 00:50:51,520
Speaker 3: just that, but this is what we've done our whole life.

1181
00:50:51,560 --> 00:50:54,160
Speaker 3: So if it's like, uh, you know, I always when

1182
00:50:54,160 --> 00:50:56,799
Speaker 3: I came into the sport, I uh, I didn't have

1183
00:50:56,960 --> 00:50:58,560
Speaker 3: like no friends like that. And when I made all

1184
00:50:58,560 --> 00:51:00,320
Speaker 3: these friends, it's like, I don't want to fight me friends.

1185
00:51:00,320 --> 00:51:01,920
Speaker 3: But at the same time, I didn't get into the

1186
00:51:01,960 --> 00:51:05,040
Speaker 3: sport to have friends. So it's like I'm fighting everybody,

1187
00:51:05,080 --> 00:51:07,200
Speaker 3: you know, And and that's how it is in a

1188
00:51:07,200 --> 00:51:09,040
Speaker 3: football game, they're gonna try to put fifty points on

1189
00:51:09,080 --> 00:51:11,040
Speaker 3: your face. I have to knock you out to separate

1190
00:51:11,080 --> 00:51:13,640
Speaker 3: myself from the pack, to show everybody, man I am

1191
00:51:13,719 --> 00:51:16,960
Speaker 3: who I sam, you know, So I have no remorse

1192
00:51:16,960 --> 00:51:20,040
Speaker 3: from fucking busting somebody's face up. You know. That's what

1193
00:51:20,080 --> 00:51:22,560
Speaker 3: we all signed secure. You're in that mode. It's what

1194
00:51:22,640 --> 00:51:26,080
Speaker 3: we all signed them for. And there's so much repetition

1195
00:51:26,440 --> 00:51:28,719
Speaker 3: in practicing that you don't even think about it. You

1196
00:51:28,880 --> 00:51:30,799
Speaker 3: just I'm just doing my coaches and me have been

1197
00:51:30,800 --> 00:51:32,759
Speaker 3: doing for all this time, and just going out and

1198
00:51:32,800 --> 00:51:34,279
Speaker 3: executing these moves.

1199
00:51:34,080 --> 00:51:37,200
Speaker 1: Because that was like that night was a trip because

1200
00:51:37,239 --> 00:51:40,600
Speaker 1: number one was in the garden. Number two Trump was there,

1201
00:51:41,120 --> 00:51:43,480
Speaker 1: which was bugged out. Number three they put me on

1202
00:51:43,520 --> 00:51:45,080
Speaker 1: the other side because they knew Trump was gonna be

1203
00:51:45,120 --> 00:51:46,960
Speaker 1: there because I don't fuck with Trump.

1204
00:51:46,760 --> 00:51:47,000
Speaker 3: I know.

1205
00:51:47,360 --> 00:51:52,879
Speaker 2: And and number four I mean Julie Biden, I mean

1206
00:51:53,080 --> 00:51:56,680
Speaker 2: me and you would do better one yo, Mas deval

1207
00:51:57,160 --> 00:51:58,719
Speaker 2: Rapaport on the twenty four.

1208
00:51:59,480 --> 00:52:02,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, we're both sides of the spectrum. Bro.

1209
00:52:02,160 --> 00:52:05,520
Speaker 1: Well, it would be awesome. We get some funding, we

1210
00:52:05,560 --> 00:52:07,480
Speaker 1: get a couple, we go on tour. You'll get me

1211
00:52:07,520 --> 00:52:10,080
Speaker 1: in shape. We'll talk ship. If I got to kick

1212
00:52:10,080 --> 00:52:13,120
Speaker 1: a little lass, I'll kick a little last, I'll kick

1213
00:52:13,120 --> 00:52:15,680
Speaker 1: a little last. But that was a crazy night because

1214
00:52:15,680 --> 00:52:17,960
Speaker 1: I was like Nate's like, it's like a scary move.

1215
00:52:18,040 --> 00:52:21,680
Speaker 1: Was like, yo, your eyes hanging off. It was wild.

1216
00:52:21,760 --> 00:52:24,839
Speaker 1: And the Derek Lewis fight that night, like it was

1217
00:52:25,040 --> 00:52:27,440
Speaker 1: the whole thing. Was I think he fought that night?

1218
00:52:27,520 --> 00:52:30,960
Speaker 2: Yes? Did he fight? Yes? I think he fought. But

1219
00:52:31,040 --> 00:52:32,480
Speaker 2: it was you know, and the rock was there was

1220
00:52:32,640 --> 00:52:33,760
Speaker 2: it was a wild night.

1221
00:52:34,360 --> 00:52:36,800
Speaker 3: On my favorite boxer, walk me out, Who.

1222
00:52:36,640 --> 00:52:39,840
Speaker 2: Is it all right? It was and it's the Garden.

1223
00:52:39,960 --> 00:52:44,560
Speaker 3: Yes, he won his title against Iran Barkley there as well.

1224
00:52:44,840 --> 00:52:45,840
Speaker 2: That's a fighter. Whwaii.

1225
00:52:45,880 --> 00:52:47,520
Speaker 1: I mean this is a guy and I used to

1226
00:52:47,880 --> 00:52:50,239
Speaker 1: from New York and I used to see you know,

1227
00:52:50,280 --> 00:52:53,520
Speaker 1: his cousin is a Saquon Barkley, the football player. But

1228
00:52:53,560 --> 00:52:56,920
Speaker 1: I used to see Iran Barkley after he retired, you know,

1229
00:52:57,000 --> 00:52:58,880
Speaker 1: at clubs, you know, just like with a hoodie.

1230
00:52:58,880 --> 00:53:01,279
Speaker 2: And I was like, yo, it's a barking because that

1231
00:53:01,400 --> 00:53:02,080
Speaker 2: was a fighter.

1232
00:53:02,160 --> 00:53:06,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, all be power aggressive, tough. Yeah, I remember.

1233
00:53:06,760 --> 00:53:09,040
Speaker 1: All right, let's are my final thing? Because I think

1234
00:53:09,040 --> 00:53:12,560
Speaker 1: he tweeted at me once Trump, where are you at

1235
00:53:12,560 --> 00:53:13,120
Speaker 1: with Trump?

1236
00:53:13,239 --> 00:53:14,000
Speaker 2: Where are you like?

1237
00:53:14,040 --> 00:53:16,000
Speaker 1: I didn't give a fuck about politics, And I'm assuming

1238
00:53:16,000 --> 00:53:18,560
Speaker 1: you didn't give a fuck about politics before the Trump administration.

1239
00:53:18,719 --> 00:53:21,239
Speaker 3: No, I'll explain to you my thing on the politics.

1240
00:53:22,080 --> 00:53:24,879
Speaker 3: So both my parents, my dad escaped from Cuba when

1241
00:53:24,880 --> 00:53:27,080
Speaker 3: he was like fifteen years old. He got a tire tractor,

1242
00:53:27,480 --> 00:53:29,279
Speaker 3: him and his best friend and his best friend's uncle.

1243
00:53:29,400 --> 00:53:32,000
Speaker 3: They turned it into a wrath. They took off. Seven

1244
00:53:32,080 --> 00:53:34,240
Speaker 3: days later they got to the Bahamas. From the Bahamas,

1245
00:53:34,239 --> 00:53:37,560
Speaker 3: he got extradited to Miami to the projects over there

1246
00:53:37,600 --> 00:53:41,040
Speaker 3: and eventually began his life. You know, my mom was

1247
00:53:41,080 --> 00:53:43,360
Speaker 3: also in Peru during a bad, bad time during the

1248
00:53:43,400 --> 00:53:46,239
Speaker 3: socialism and there was a lot of terrorism going on

1249
00:53:46,280 --> 00:53:49,040
Speaker 3: because other organizations were gonna take it over. So it

1250
00:53:49,080 --> 00:53:52,200
Speaker 3: wasn't that I was so much engraved in politics and stuff,

1251
00:53:52,200 --> 00:53:54,440
Speaker 3: but it was just something that was so common in

1252
00:53:54,480 --> 00:53:56,839
Speaker 3: my household since a young age, from kind of both

1253
00:53:56,880 --> 00:54:00,680
Speaker 3: sides of the family, but more so the Cuban conservative side,

1254
00:54:00,719 --> 00:54:04,000
Speaker 3: you know, like just hearing all these horror stories when

1255
00:54:04,040 --> 00:54:07,040
Speaker 3: when I'm a kid and I'm like, yeah, but you know,

1256
00:54:07,120 --> 00:54:10,480
Speaker 3: you're exaggerating this, and they're like, no, no, no, we seriously.

1257
00:54:10,600 --> 00:54:13,680
Speaker 3: We only got two eggs for the whole family for

1258
00:54:13,719 --> 00:54:15,560
Speaker 3: the month and that was it, and that was the

1259
00:54:15,560 --> 00:54:19,839
Speaker 3: government would give. You know, my other aunt, Somo made

1260
00:54:19,840 --> 00:54:22,200
Speaker 3: the base and here's the state of Cuba or whatever.

1261
00:54:22,480 --> 00:54:26,000
Speaker 3: They have this strip of land filled with minds, right,

1262
00:54:26,400 --> 00:54:29,399
Speaker 3: so all the imagine the US did that, like put

1263
00:54:29,440 --> 00:54:30,960
Speaker 3: a bunch of minds from here to Canada so we

1264
00:54:31,000 --> 00:54:31,720
Speaker 3: wouldn't escape.

1265
00:54:31,760 --> 00:54:32,600
Speaker 2: You know, that's crazy.

1266
00:54:32,680 --> 00:54:36,200
Speaker 3: And my aunt crossed this field and then crossing this field,

1267
00:54:36,640 --> 00:54:39,400
Speaker 3: her titty blew up because you hit a mine. So

1268
00:54:40,000 --> 00:54:42,799
Speaker 3: she's now known in the family as Biggie Smalls, but

1269
00:54:43,480 --> 00:54:45,920
Speaker 3: she is still alive. And these are the people that

1270
00:54:45,960 --> 00:54:48,120
Speaker 3: I grew up with, you know. So I heard this

1271
00:54:48,160 --> 00:54:51,239
Speaker 3: throughout my whole freaking life of why this system of

1272
00:54:51,280 --> 00:54:53,879
Speaker 3: oppression is the fucking worst and if you ever see

1273
00:54:54,200 --> 00:54:55,799
Speaker 3: you have to fight for it because this is literally

1274
00:54:55,880 --> 00:54:58,239
Speaker 3: the greatest country. I know people have a lot of

1275
00:54:58,239 --> 00:55:00,000
Speaker 3: feelings about this, but I've been all over the world

1276
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:02,440
Speaker 3: world to me that this is a place like me,

1277
00:55:02,640 --> 00:55:05,399
Speaker 3: a fucking immigrant fuck that they didn't have anything, could

1278
00:55:05,400 --> 00:55:07,800
Speaker 3: be a multi millionaire and take care of my children

1279
00:55:07,840 --> 00:55:10,480
Speaker 3: and their children, you know. So I love this country.

1280
00:55:10,480 --> 00:55:10,560
Speaker 1: Man.

1281
00:55:11,520 --> 00:55:13,440
Speaker 3: That's where I'm not really like with the politics, you

1282
00:55:13,480 --> 00:55:15,400
Speaker 3: know that I just feel that this is the best country.

1283
00:55:16,560 --> 00:55:19,200
Speaker 3: I don't want to see the laws implicated in Mexico

1284
00:55:19,360 --> 00:55:23,200
Speaker 3: or Venezuela or Cuba any of those places here, you know,

1285
00:55:23,200 --> 00:55:24,320
Speaker 3: I want this to be America.

1286
00:55:24,360 --> 00:55:26,440
Speaker 1: You know, we could go down the trumpet and I

1287
00:55:26,520 --> 00:55:28,759
Speaker 1: had a feeling like your stuff is, you know, like

1288
00:55:28,800 --> 00:55:30,960
Speaker 1: on social media, and also the stuff we sort of

1289
00:55:31,320 --> 00:55:33,600
Speaker 1: you know, lean into and there's fan bases and all

1290
00:55:33,640 --> 00:55:36,160
Speaker 1: that shit. You know, it kind of gets blown up

1291
00:55:36,239 --> 00:55:38,400
Speaker 1: with it. I just want to ask you last question,

1292
00:55:38,840 --> 00:55:41,160
Speaker 1: your five favorite boxers of all time?

1293
00:55:41,920 --> 00:55:43,640
Speaker 2: Your five favorite boxers of all time?

1294
00:55:44,920 --> 00:55:53,760
Speaker 3: Lang Muhammad Ali, Oh my gosh, I love Sugar Ray Leonard,

1295
00:55:53,760 --> 00:55:57,080
Speaker 3: I love Sugar Ay Robinson said, by a load of time.

1296
00:55:57,280 --> 00:56:00,400
Speaker 3: Just Parnell with it. Oh my gosh, bro, he used

1297
00:56:00,440 --> 00:56:03,160
Speaker 3: to freaking just watch him for tapes and tapes like,

1298
00:56:03,200 --> 00:56:04,680
Speaker 3: how does this guy do that? He's just stand in

1299
00:56:04,719 --> 00:56:07,160
Speaker 3: front of you and you can't touch him. Aaron Pryor,

1300
00:56:07,560 --> 00:56:09,840
Speaker 3: he was a motherfucker. My gosh, that's it.

1301
00:56:09,960 --> 00:56:10,960
Speaker 2: That's it to me.

1302
00:56:11,040 --> 00:56:13,200
Speaker 1: That's your wheelhouse is ship too? Like I look at

1303
00:56:13,239 --> 00:56:14,480
Speaker 1: you like it's Aaron Prior.

1304
00:56:14,239 --> 00:56:18,359
Speaker 3: Type super athlete that was super fucking mean mean. Well

1305
00:56:18,440 --> 00:56:20,400
Speaker 3: the one guy that lost him, what's his name, uh

1306
00:56:21,280 --> 00:56:26,640
Speaker 3: Aguayo Guay, alexis ar Guay. Yeah, he was another freaking animal.

1307
00:56:27,000 --> 00:56:32,120
Speaker 3: There's so many guys, man, those are your guys. Yeah,

1308
00:56:32,120 --> 00:56:35,279
Speaker 3: he Van their holy Field, big holy Field fanimal too big.

1309
00:56:36,560 --> 00:56:38,399
Speaker 3: Oscar de la Hoya had his freaking time.

1310
00:56:38,680 --> 00:56:41,280
Speaker 2: Did you watch the Oscar de Hoya doc on HBO?

1311
00:56:41,520 --> 00:56:43,560
Speaker 3: No, No, the new one. You have to watch it. Okay,

1312
00:56:44,040 --> 00:56:46,600
Speaker 3: you're gonna all the boxer documentaries. I always watch him.

1313
00:56:46,600 --> 00:56:46,880
Speaker 3: You you.

1314
00:56:47,040 --> 00:56:47,840
Speaker 2: It's two parts.

1315
00:56:47,920 --> 00:56:50,359
Speaker 1: It's excellent, and there's a couple of parts you're gonna

1316
00:56:50,400 --> 00:56:52,719
Speaker 1: be like, literally, go oh ship because.

1317
00:56:52,640 --> 00:56:55,399
Speaker 2: Oscar he the whole thing is about his whole life.

1318
00:56:55,640 --> 00:56:59,600
Speaker 1: Oscar's whole thing is bullshit and that's why he made

1319
00:56:59,600 --> 00:57:03,319
Speaker 1: the docum and I'm not he talks about that. You're

1320
00:57:03,360 --> 00:57:06,000
Speaker 1: gonna watch him be like, oh shit, but you're gonna

1321
00:57:06,000 --> 00:57:06,880
Speaker 1: love it. As a fighter.

1322
00:57:07,000 --> 00:57:08,000
Speaker 3: I'm gonna watch it tonight.

1323
00:57:08,120 --> 00:57:11,239
Speaker 1: It's really good at two parts watching it. Your five

1324
00:57:11,320 --> 00:57:13,320
Speaker 1: favorite MMA fighters.

1325
00:57:15,520 --> 00:57:18,760
Speaker 3: One. This guy always inspired me and the UFC at

1326
00:57:18,760 --> 00:57:21,080
Speaker 3: one point had had gotten rid of my weight class

1327
00:57:21,080 --> 00:57:24,040
Speaker 3: one hundred and fifty five pounds. They had just dissembled this.

1328
00:57:24,360 --> 00:57:28,400
Speaker 3: It's not making enough headlines whatever. They dissembled it. So

1329
00:57:28,920 --> 00:57:32,800
Speaker 3: for a large time, like guys like me, like my

1330
00:57:32,960 --> 00:57:35,360
Speaker 3: size didn't have like a good, good place to go to.

1331
00:57:35,880 --> 00:57:37,600
Speaker 3: And there was a little guy who was going all

1332
00:57:37,600 --> 00:57:40,240
Speaker 3: over the world kicking everybody's ass. And his name was

1333
00:57:40,280 --> 00:57:42,400
Speaker 3: BJ Penn. You know it's not that little, but BJ

1334
00:57:42,560 --> 00:57:45,160
Speaker 3: Penn was like one of my fucking all time favorite fighters.

1335
00:57:45,320 --> 00:57:47,320
Speaker 3: He could strike. He was a president jury to world

1336
00:57:47,400 --> 00:57:49,400
Speaker 3: champion that didn't care to use it. He would strike

1337
00:57:49,440 --> 00:57:50,760
Speaker 3: and want to knock guys out and if he went

1338
00:57:50,800 --> 00:57:52,760
Speaker 3: to the ground, he tried to Submitchell. So he was

1339
00:57:53,120 --> 00:57:55,640
Speaker 3: he was always like that same spirit that I embodied,

1340
00:57:55,680 --> 00:57:57,600
Speaker 3: like it's a fight, man, I'm trying to finish you,

1341
00:57:57,600 --> 00:57:59,800
Speaker 3: you know. So Bjpen is definitely one of my favorite

1342
00:57:59,800 --> 00:58:05,760
Speaker 3: one love Chuck Likedell Mighty Mouse. John Jones is so

1343
00:58:06,080 --> 00:58:08,520
Speaker 3: fucking just ahead of the curve on so many levels.

1344
00:58:08,560 --> 00:58:12,680
Speaker 3: Love that fucking guy too. There's so many on MMA.

1345
00:58:12,800 --> 00:58:15,880
Speaker 3: It's always interchangeable that, Like God, there's so many guys

1346
00:58:15,920 --> 00:58:18,480
Speaker 3: that are fucking I like Robert Whittaker a lot. Israel

1347
00:58:18,600 --> 00:58:21,600
Speaker 3: I said, Sanya always messed up his name. Sorry is

1348
00:58:22,200 --> 00:58:24,280
Speaker 3: There's a lot of dudes. GSP is a fucking bees

1349
00:58:24,400 --> 00:58:28,800
Speaker 3: habib Abib is no Ji Dominic Cruz I was always

1350
00:58:28,800 --> 00:58:31,200
Speaker 3: a big dominant CUZ fan because of the head moment,

1351
00:58:31,320 --> 00:58:33,720
Speaker 3: the speed that angles, the way that he fought, Like

1352
00:58:33,880 --> 00:58:36,240
Speaker 3: every coach advised against that, Like there's not a coach

1353
00:58:36,280 --> 00:58:38,000
Speaker 3: ever that's looked at his video and said, yeah, this

1354
00:58:38,080 --> 00:58:39,920
Speaker 3: is and he would do it and put it off

1355
00:58:39,920 --> 00:58:41,960
Speaker 3: and beat the world's best back to back by doing

1356
00:58:42,000 --> 00:58:44,080
Speaker 3: it in his own way. Henry said, who to another

1357
00:58:44,080 --> 00:58:48,480
Speaker 3: one huge fan of his style, right, going for hours.

1358
00:58:48,680 --> 00:58:51,520
Speaker 2: Who's gonna win the John Jones.

1359
00:58:52,680 --> 00:58:57,680
Speaker 3: Steeping Yes, okay me? And so let's say this. You

1360
00:58:57,680 --> 00:59:01,120
Speaker 3: can't bet against John Jones, right, But I think the

1361
00:59:01,200 --> 00:59:05,560
Speaker 3: toughest fight ever he's gonna have, he's gonna be Miltovitch.

1362
00:59:05,920 --> 00:59:09,600
Speaker 3: He's naturally a bigger guy, and he can wrestle, and

1363
00:59:09,640 --> 00:59:12,040
Speaker 3: he's gonna be able to wrestle back into John Jones.

1364
00:59:12,320 --> 00:59:14,640
Speaker 3: John Jones's hands are not the best step It has

1365
00:59:14,680 --> 00:59:17,280
Speaker 3: good hands, but then again, it is John Jones we're

1366
00:59:17,280 --> 00:59:19,120
Speaker 3: talking about. He could help, but he could knee, he

1367
00:59:19,160 --> 00:59:22,480
Speaker 3: could do the craziest takedowns from crazy and then when

1368
00:59:22,480 --> 00:59:25,320
Speaker 3: it hits the ground, he's just a problem. They get

1369
00:59:25,320 --> 00:59:27,040
Speaker 3: this s guy. He must weigh more than a building

1370
00:59:27,040 --> 00:59:29,040
Speaker 3: because nobody gets away from him when he gets him down,

1371
00:59:29,040 --> 00:59:30,840
Speaker 3: when he wants to hold somebody and beat him down.

1372
00:59:31,280 --> 00:59:34,200
Speaker 3: You know. So I think it's gonna be John's biggest test,

1373
00:59:34,360 --> 00:59:37,000
Speaker 3: to tell you truth, And if John could walk through him,

1374
00:59:37,360 --> 00:59:42,000
Speaker 3: I mean that's scary. And also for for Steepe, if

1375
00:59:42,000 --> 00:59:44,200
Speaker 3: he wins biggest fight of his fucking life, I mean,

1376
00:59:44,280 --> 00:59:47,680
Speaker 3: it's in the garden, holy smoke. So the UFC heavyweight chan. Yeah,

1377
00:59:47,720 --> 00:59:48,919
Speaker 3: I think I'll be there for that and for sure.

1378
00:59:49,920 --> 00:59:53,840
Speaker 1: Okay, let's go Jorge mos Devel September eighth.

1379
00:59:53,960 --> 00:59:56,840
Speaker 2: It's gonna be a Is it okay to say a bloodbath?

1380
00:59:57,000 --> 00:59:59,439
Speaker 3: Oh, it's gonna be a If you're near ringside, bring

1381
00:59:59,480 --> 01:00:01,760
Speaker 3: your fucking umbrella. Bro, it's gonna be get bloody, bro

1382
01:00:02,160 --> 01:00:05,919
Speaker 3: from start to finish. Like that's the thing about Bare Knuckle. Yeah,

1383
01:00:05,960 --> 01:00:08,680
Speaker 3: we have JDS doom, but like any one of these

1384
01:00:08,720 --> 01:00:11,520
Speaker 3: fights just becomes so entertaining when you don't know how

1385
01:00:11,560 --> 01:00:13,280
Speaker 3: I could in and take it in at any moment,

1386
01:00:13,320 --> 01:00:15,920
Speaker 3: you know, if you're not doing anything. September eighth, jackson

1387
01:00:15,960 --> 01:00:16,600
Speaker 3: But I might.

1388
01:00:16,640 --> 01:00:17,400
Speaker 2: I might be at that.

1389
01:00:18,320 --> 01:00:20,040
Speaker 1: I might be at that because my my mother in

1390
01:00:20,120 --> 01:00:22,400
Speaker 1: law lives in Jacksonville. I would love to come down.

1391
01:00:22,560 --> 01:00:25,600
Speaker 1: And if you ever need like as a promoter, are

1392
01:00:25,600 --> 01:00:26,880
Speaker 1: you able to ship talk or do you have to

1393
01:00:26,880 --> 01:00:28,720
Speaker 1: stay neutral, because if you ever need like a ship

1394
01:00:28,800 --> 01:00:32,080
Speaker 1: talker to like sort of I really seriously want to

1395
01:00:32,080 --> 01:00:35,600
Speaker 1: do that, but I just don't want any ramifications.

1396
01:00:35,800 --> 01:00:38,520
Speaker 3: No, no, So I I'll stir it up.

1397
01:00:38,560 --> 01:00:41,720
Speaker 2: But then I go, okay, it's just we're just playing.

1398
01:00:42,160 --> 01:00:44,360
Speaker 3: I'm gonna put my bodyguards a little bigger than him,

1399
01:00:44,360 --> 01:00:45,760
Speaker 3: so it'll take care of you a little better than him.

1400
01:00:45,760 --> 01:00:47,920
Speaker 1: And you all these because as a promoter, are you

1401
01:00:47,920 --> 01:00:50,040
Speaker 1: allowed to talk ship or you have to remain.

1402
01:00:50,320 --> 01:00:52,040
Speaker 3: Definitely allowed to talk shit. But if I if I

1403
01:00:52,040 --> 01:00:54,120
Speaker 3: book two guys that fight each other, right, and I'm

1404
01:00:54,280 --> 01:00:56,560
Speaker 3: leaning towards one more, I just you know.

1405
01:00:56,560 --> 01:00:57,680
Speaker 2: You have to keep it down in the middle.

1406
01:00:57,800 --> 01:00:59,320
Speaker 3: Got to keep it down in the middle, knowing that

1407
01:00:59,320 --> 01:01:01,480
Speaker 3: it's going to be a great Obviously, I'm a human being.

1408
01:01:01,480 --> 01:01:03,160
Speaker 3: In the back of my mind, I'm always like, I

1409
01:01:03,240 --> 01:01:05,440
Speaker 3: think this guy in this apartment said a little bit

1410
01:01:05,440 --> 01:01:08,040
Speaker 3: of this guy's better in this apartment. Let's see what happens.

1411
01:01:08,600 --> 01:01:11,240
Speaker 3: But you always just got to say like neutral because

1412
01:01:11,240 --> 01:01:12,320
Speaker 3: I'm promoting the fight, you know.

1413
01:01:12,360 --> 01:01:15,760
Speaker 1: But I would say this, or because in remaining neutral,

1414
01:01:16,160 --> 01:01:20,640
Speaker 1: you should again remaining neutral, you should let your Intervince

1415
01:01:20,720 --> 01:01:25,440
Speaker 1: McMahon push the business because you're a good shit talker

1416
01:01:26,080 --> 01:01:27,760
Speaker 1: and you're you're you know, people like you for that

1417
01:01:27,920 --> 01:01:30,240
Speaker 1: and you back it up and you know, without being

1418
01:01:30,240 --> 01:01:33,000
Speaker 1: favored to another fighter, just for the business to keep

1419
01:01:33,040 --> 01:01:34,720
Speaker 1: doing that, you know, like do your thing because I

1420
01:01:34,760 --> 01:01:36,040
Speaker 1: think it'll help the business. Well.

1421
01:01:36,080 --> 01:01:39,840
Speaker 3: In this one coming up between Verdom and uh JDS.

1422
01:01:40,240 --> 01:01:42,280
Speaker 3: I do the math every that I talk to my

1423
01:01:42,640 --> 01:01:44,800
Speaker 3: good friend and partner every day and we talk like

1424
01:01:44,840 --> 01:01:46,760
Speaker 3: who do you got today? And every day like switches.

1425
01:01:46,840 --> 01:01:49,360
Speaker 3: So on this one in particular, it's not even the

1426
01:01:49,440 --> 01:01:52,200
Speaker 3: promoter me, it's I'm really like, fuck, I could see

1427
01:01:52,240 --> 01:01:53,200
Speaker 3: this going both ways.

1428
01:01:53,200 --> 01:01:55,240
Speaker 2: You know, I might come on the eighth. That would

1429
01:01:55,280 --> 01:01:56,080
Speaker 2: be we got.

1430
01:01:55,880 --> 01:01:57,200
Speaker 3: You, we got and you can stir up all the

1431
01:01:57,200 --> 01:02:01,920
Speaker 3: pots you want, Bro. No ramification, ramifications? Bro, what is

1432
01:02:01,960 --> 01:02:04,680
Speaker 3: it called when the politicians can do whatever they want to? Impunity?

1433
01:02:04,760 --> 01:02:05,320
Speaker 2: Impunity?

1434
01:02:05,440 --> 01:02:06,000
Speaker 3: Unity? Brother?

1435
01:02:06,120 --> 01:02:07,520
Speaker 2: I need diplomatic compunity.

1436
01:02:07,640 --> 01:02:10,640
Speaker 1: I need game bread, granted, I need game bread bare

1437
01:02:10,680 --> 01:02:11,400
Speaker 1: knuckle impunity.

1438
01:02:11,400 --> 01:02:13,760
Speaker 3: You're talking to supreme leader of game Bread International.

1439
01:02:13,880 --> 01:02:15,720
Speaker 2: We got you there, Okay. I just want to make

1440
01:02:15,760 --> 01:02:18,520
Speaker 2: sure that that's on board the whole time. I appreciate

1441
01:02:18,520 --> 01:02:20,040
Speaker 2: the time, God, but that's awesome