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Speaker 2: Here's something alarming, and maybe it's not alarming anymore. The
Speaker 2: Chicago White Sox now have six pitchers who will require
Speaker 2: Tommy John surgery from just the past month. Once again,
Speaker 2: six pitchers in spring training now need Tommy John surgery.
Speaker 2: In twenty twenty four, there were more Tommy John surgeries
Speaker 2: than the first twenty five years after Tommy John had
Speaker 2: this surgery. Show Hey o Tani coming back to pitch
Speaker 2: he had a second Tommy John surgery. Of the one
Speaker 2: hundred and one pitchers that have had two Tommy John surgeries,
Speaker 2: twenty five pitchers never pitched again. The average career after
Speaker 2: the second Tommy John surgery three seasons. There is a
Speaker 2: new Tommy John surgery, a procedure, and it allows pitchers
Speaker 2: to come back sooner, maybe pitch longer, but that remains
Speaker 2: to be seen. Showhey Jacob de Gram, Spencer Streder, others
Speaker 2: coming back to pitch after having the new Tommy John procedure.
Speaker 2: At some point, I don't know what baseball can do
Speaker 2: to kind of protect itself from itself that you have
Speaker 2: these pitchers who just throw as hard as they can
Speaker 2: for as long as they can, and then you go
Speaker 2: in for surgery. And I've told this story before, but
Speaker 2: it's worth repeating. I was going to a physical therapist
Speaker 2: and was working on my shoulder after shoulder surgery. And
Speaker 2: he deals with a lot of big time amateur athletes,
Speaker 2: and he said he had a twelve year old. Parents
Speaker 2: from of a twelve year old saying we would like
Speaker 2: for him to get Tommy John surgery. And the physical
Speaker 2: therapist said, well, what's wrong, nothing, We want to get
Speaker 2: the Tommy John surgery now, So you're having elective Tommy
Speaker 2: John surgery. And he says it's crazy, but it's the
Speaker 2: new norm now that it's not a big deal. But
Speaker 2: that's an alarming number of Tommy John surgery's for one
Speaker 2: team in spring training. But if the model is throw
Speaker 2: as hard as you can for as long as you can,
Speaker 2: and then you know, you go in and have your
Speaker 2: engine rebuilt, and then you come back and then you
Speaker 2: try to do it again. The body's not meant to
Speaker 2: throw one hundred and five miles an hour. It's just
Speaker 2: your arm is not meant to do that. Nolan Ryan's
Speaker 2: greatest power pitcher I ever saw, and I don't know
Speaker 2: how fast he was throwing, but he was built to
Speaker 2: throw hard. And a lot of it's lower body. You know,
Speaker 2: a lot of these pictures lower body. The strength comes
Speaker 2: from that lower body, being able to get torque, your arm, angle,
Speaker 2: all of those things. Some guys just have it like
Speaker 2: they're magically given to them.
Speaker 3: Others can develop.
Speaker 2: But sometimes you'll see with performance enhancing drugs, guys can
Speaker 2: come back. Guys are going to throw harder. You'll see
Speaker 2: a guy who jumps from let's say ninety three to
Speaker 2: ninety seven, and that's a big jump. That's like when
Speaker 2: you watch somebody run one hundred meter dash and you're like, man,
Speaker 2: they improved by a half a second. It doesn't happen.
Speaker 2: I mean, Ben Johnson doesn't happen unless he's got performance
Speaker 2: enhancing drugs. And that's what I worry about, is you
Speaker 2: want to see I mean, pitching is part of the game,
Speaker 2: and it was a huge part of the game. I
Speaker 2: know baseball has changed, but I just wonder how long
Speaker 2: does it go and what could you even do? What
Speaker 2: are there any precautions that you can take? But if
Speaker 2: baseball is just kind of eat and it's young, here,
Speaker 2: hey go in there and throw hard, and so what, man,
Speaker 2: We'll get another guy who can throw hard. The number
Speaker 2: of guys who can throw one hundred miles on Earth
Speaker 2: used to be like that guy tops out at a hundred.
Speaker 2: Now it's a requirement. You got to throw a hundred
Speaker 2: unless you have some you know, different pitch, great pitch.
Speaker 2: I mean watching you know Sisaki the Dodgers his first
Speaker 2: three pitches to start a game, hundi, hundi, hundi. Usually
Speaker 2: you build up to that. How long can you do it?
Speaker 2: And then what happens after that? The torque that you have.
Speaker 2: I mean, I I just hate seeing the number of
Speaker 2: players have that surgery. But if they're not afraid of it,
Speaker 2: and they almost expect it, and I shouldn't be worried
Speaker 2: about it either, Yampulling.
Speaker 5: If this were a player's safety issue like head injuries,
Speaker 5: the league would step in and address it like the
Speaker 5: if this or the NFL, they would address this and
Speaker 5: not let their star players are pretty famous. It's a
Speaker 5: great point to be out for a season. But baseball.
Speaker 5: I made a joking suggestion a couple of years ago
Speaker 5: saying that if you throw over one hundred miles an hour,
Speaker 5: it's a ball, it's no longer a strike. And that
Speaker 5: was kind of a joke, but he would end the problem.
Speaker 2: But you know, curveball used to mess you up. I
Speaker 2: remember we weren't allowed to throw a curveball until we
Speaker 2: got to a certain age because they didn't want to
Speaker 2: do that to your elbow. And I remember that you
Speaker 2: could throw fastballs, that's it. And then you got to
Speaker 2: be like twelve and they go, all right, you can
Speaker 2: snap off a curveball. You're like, okay, I mean even then,
Speaker 2: that's too young. Yeah, Pauling, So based.
Speaker 5: Off what you're saying, baseball can't do anything because it's
Speaker 5: starting when they're fifteen sixteen to get recruited or get
Speaker 5: drafted younger.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is a twelve year old whose parents said,
Speaker 2: let's get surgery now, like let's strengthen it now. And
Speaker 2: the physical therapist I go to he goes, he's twelve.
Speaker 2: You're not even developed yet, Yeston.
Speaker 6: But this is like this system that we have here
Speaker 6: right at twelve years old, that kids are already thinking about
Speaker 6: I have to get into the right high school so
Speaker 6: I could try to get into the right college, so
Speaker 6: I could get into maybe keep advancing things, and if
Speaker 6: you don't follow the lanes that are set up by
Speaker 6: the system, you're going to have a very difficult time
Speaker 6: breaking through.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because it's getting with the right team, a travel team,
Speaker 2: and being seen an AAU and all of these you know,
Speaker 2: traveling squads, and then you get recruited and then you
Speaker 2: begin the process. It's just it's a lot of wear
Speaker 2: and tear. But baseball is welcoming the wear and tear.
Speaker 6: Yeah, right, If you don't play in the right league,
Speaker 6: high school or college won't even look at you. If
Speaker 6: you don't go to the right high school or college
Speaker 6: won't even look at you. If you're not doing all
Speaker 6: of these different things, they don't even they're not even
Speaker 6: wasting their time. They're not even going to look.
Speaker 5: Yeah. Yeah, I'm looking at this recruiting site that's giving
Speaker 5: tips to high school pitchers on how to get recruited,
Speaker 5: and it said, it's your spin rate isn't acceptable for
Speaker 5: the college recruiters or the pro recruiters. They will not
Speaker 5: even look at you. It's it's it's spin rate as
Speaker 5: much or more so than velocity.
Speaker 2: A couple other headlines we did talk about Russell Wilson,
Speaker 2: what's this mean for Shudor Sanders with the Browns take
Speaker 2: him at number two. Stefan Diggs quietly goes to the Patriots.
Speaker 2: Dame Lillard is out with a blood clot. Now this
Speaker 2: isn't basketball, this is life. This is serious here, or
Speaker 2: could be very serious. And I wonder if we see
Speaker 2: Dame and Yannis play again. I'll go back to twenty
Speaker 2: twenty twenty twenty one. Yannis won a title finals MVP
Speaker 2: two previous seasons, won a league MVP, next three seasons,
Speaker 2: finish in the top five for MVP each year. He'll
Speaker 2: be top five again this year and he's averaging thirty
Speaker 2: twelve and six. When's the last time somebody brought up
Speaker 2: Yannis playing basketball and talked about the overall picture of
Speaker 2: the overall landscape of greatest players in the game.
Speaker 3: His name doesn't come up the way it used to.
Speaker 2: Now he won the title, but then you get a
Speaker 2: few first round exits, a second round exit this year
Speaker 2: even worse. Dame Lillard's been on the team for the
Speaker 2: last couple of years now with a blood clot, And
Speaker 2: then you start to wonder, if you're Milwaukee, what are
Speaker 2: you going to do?
Speaker 3: What's your future here?
Speaker 2: And we thought, well, you put Dame Jannis pick and
Speaker 2: roll unstoppable. Nothing happened, and now it can Dame play again?
Speaker 2: Does the honest want to stay in Milwaukee? And I
Speaker 2: don't know how many? How many years does Giannis have left?
Speaker 5: Faulling Gianis has three years left on his sixteen contract.
Speaker 5: Fifty four million, fifty eight million, sixty three million.
Speaker 6: Okay, don't write us off, dam We're gonna be okay,
Speaker 6: We're gonna be.
Speaker 2: All right, Thank you, Doc Rivers Pole. Question for the
Speaker 2: final hour of the program is going to be what Seaton.
Speaker 6: Let me update you here a little bit on what
Speaker 6: we've already been working with. Jameis Winston is apparently the
Speaker 6: world's greatest pregame speech guy. He's still got ninety percent.
Speaker 6: I don't know that we've ever had a ninety ten
Speaker 6: this for three straight hours. That's wild. Can you you
Speaker 6: can put one into play. It's a hard salary cap
Speaker 6: and baseball or return to the old transfer system in college.
Speaker 6: Right now, a hard salary cap and baseball has fifty
Speaker 6: seven percent of the vote.
Speaker 2: Hey, yeah, I don't know if we're going to get
Speaker 2: any of it, but still, you know, it's it's nice
Speaker 2: to think that maybe there are going to be some
Speaker 2: kind of modifications here. I just it never should have
Speaker 2: gotten to this, and that's that's what bums me out
Speaker 2: more than anything with the transfer portal and Nil.
Speaker 3: It didn't have to it to this point.
Speaker 2: I just think that you had grown ups who underestimated
Speaker 2: the resolve of players and that they were eventually going
Speaker 2: to get around to this. Because we've had schools who say,
Speaker 2: you know what, we're going to unionize and then all
Speaker 2: of a sudden they don't remember Maurice Clarett was going
Speaker 2: to take on the NFL that he wanted to leave
Speaker 2: Ohio State early and then he kind of disappears. I mean,
Speaker 2: you got to be ready for the long haul. You
Speaker 2: got to be ready for a fight. I mean, this
Speaker 2: goes back to Ed O'Bannon with the video game and
Speaker 2: Sonny Vaccero, you know, the shoe sneaker guru came in
Speaker 2: to help with this, to push it through the legal
Speaker 2: system to allow players to actually be people.
Speaker 3: And that's but it's a long haul.
Speaker 2: And you had to have somebody willing to do that,
Speaker 2: and Ed O'Bannon was willing to do that with his family,
Speaker 2: his wife and they were going to try to correct
Speaker 2: this for all athletes, or at least of major sports,
Speaker 2: and that's how we got to this point. I just
Speaker 2: don't think that college sports was prepared for them. Whether
Speaker 2: I know they're not prepared for this, But now, what
Speaker 2: are you preparing for now?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 2: This is like when you have the concussion lawsuit? Okay,
Speaker 2: now what are you preparing for?
Speaker 3: Now?
Speaker 2: What happens next? That's what college athletics needs to understand.
Speaker 2: Now what are you doing? Or maybe it's just college football.
Speaker 2: This is what you need to think about college basketball.
Speaker 2: This is what you need. College football, you should secede.
Speaker 2: You should just take over your own sport, have X
Speaker 2: number of schools, and if you do have a relegation, great,
Speaker 2: the money's going to be there. There'll be even more
Speaker 2: money for you. And then with college basketball, you want
Speaker 2: to expand a ninety six, expand a ninety six. I
Speaker 2: don't know what that solves. You're going to make more money?
Speaker 2: Is that the most important thing? So that's where I
Speaker 2: think these sports you need to individualize and say what
Speaker 2: makes sense for us next five years, next ten years,
Speaker 2: because we may be in this position five seven years
Speaker 2: down the road where we go they didn't learn anything.
Speaker 2: They did not learn anything, repeating their mistakes. Donovan in
Speaker 2: Iowa leads us off, Hey Donovan, what's on your mind today?
Speaker 7: Hey Dan? Sixty two one fifty rough?
Speaker 8: Yeah?
Speaker 3: What do you got?
Speaker 7: Hey Dan? Except for Paul or Seat and what he
Speaker 7: said about the working class ditch diggers being jealous of
Speaker 7: nil because they get paid at such young age, it's
Speaker 7: so completely false. We don't hate nil. We actually love it.
Speaker 7: Give these kids a lot more money, get him playing.
Speaker 7: We love it because they they love to how fuck.
Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, no, no Donald, no no no.
Speaker 3: You were close.
Speaker 9: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 6: What I'm saying is not a slight on working class people.
Speaker 6: I'm very much a working class person myself. But I
Speaker 6: do think that a lot of especially from the say
Speaker 6: sports media people covering the athletes, might be upset that
Speaker 6: the eighteen nineteen year olds are making more money than
Speaker 6: they already did.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and they're they're it's the tail wagging the dog. Yeah,
Speaker 2: And I understand what you're saying. I don't think somebody
Speaker 2: who is, you know, a manual labor is going I
Speaker 2: don't like college basketball because these kids are making more
Speaker 2: money than I'll make in my lifetime that definitely exists,
Speaker 2: though could I don't agree with it, but I think
Speaker 2: it's more of it's just a you're ruining my sport.
Speaker 2: Why are we doing this? Why do we need this?
Speaker 2: Like you're ruining my NBA because we allow three point shots? Okay,
Speaker 2: get over it. You're ruining my sport because I don't
Speaker 2: know where these kids are going to go. Okay, get
Speaker 2: over it. All baseball's got a pitchclock. All they do
Speaker 2: is hit home run? All right, Now, what are you
Speaker 2: going to do? Get over it?
Speaker 3: Like that's really the point.
Speaker 2: And if you keep holding on to what yesteryear was
Speaker 2: all about, you're gonna be disappointed for a long time.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 6: See, I think that too. If you're somebody in the
Speaker 6: media who covers say college basketball, and the media landscape
Speaker 6: is shifting like crazy. Nobody knows where they're getting their
Speaker 6: next paycheck. But you're covering a sport where there's money
Speaker 6: flowing all over the place. It's swirling around your head
Speaker 6: and you get into the press box and you're like,
Speaker 6: what's with this crappy food? And I can't figure out
Speaker 6: why my posts aren't generating any money, But I got
Speaker 6: to cover this eighteen year old kid that just needs
Speaker 6: six million dollars and the network that just did a
Speaker 6: six billion dollar deal for this, but I can't figure
Speaker 6: out my money. I get why the coverage is a
Speaker 6: little skewed negative.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know, Jeff Goodman has been covering basketball
Speaker 2: college basketball a long time, worked at the Mother Shift
Speaker 2: for a long time. But you know when he talks
Speaker 2: about that this is basically apocalyptic. Okay, but he shouldn't
Speaker 2: be blaming the kids. He should blame the other people
Speaker 2: who put this system in place or allowed it to
Speaker 2: be put in place. So we do have anarch. You,
Speaker 2: I mean, you can be moaning all the you don't
Speaker 2: have to cover it anymore. I mean, cover another sport.
Speaker 2: Nobody's making you cover this. Uh, Pete in Iowa, Hi Pete,
Speaker 2: what's on your mind?
Speaker 8: Yeah?
Speaker 9: I'm an old third time caller and I just have
Speaker 9: a poll question. It might be a little late today,
Speaker 9: but I was wondering what's now and more important. You
Speaker 9: don't even talk about high school recruiting basketball anymore. It's
Speaker 9: all about the transfer portal. So I wonder if you
Speaker 9: could make a poll question, what's more important between recruiting
Speaker 9: or the transfer portal?
Speaker 2: Oh? I think it's transfer portal. I'll gladly let you
Speaker 2: have a freshman. I'll gladly let you have the top freshman,
Speaker 2: because you know what, I might get a missus sophomore.
Speaker 3: That would be my recruiting approach.
Speaker 2: I'd have a couple of freshmen, but I would have
Speaker 2: my sight set on somebody who has already proven, because
Speaker 2: there are guys that the sport is littered with, guys
Speaker 2: like this guy can't miss. This guy's going to be unbelievable.
Speaker 2: And then you go, where's Mony Bates? You know he
Speaker 2: couldn't miss. I think he was the was he the
Speaker 2: high school.
Speaker 3: Player of the year in Michigan as a freshman sophomore
Speaker 3: sophomore relaxed.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you can't miss, And then all of a sudden
Speaker 2: they miss. I want to know, can you do it?
Speaker 2: Did you already do it? And I'll gladly take you,
Speaker 2: you know I will. All right, let me take a break.
Speaker 2: More phone calls coming up. The NFL is doing some
Speaker 2: tweaking to the kickoff again. We'll have that for you
Speaker 2: coming up right after this, and leftovers from in and Out.
Speaker 2: We didn't get all of the in and out burger questions. Yes,
Speaker 2: I could go for an in and out burger over
Speaker 2: one thing I've never said. I thought that's never crossed mine.
Speaker 3: What is the other burger?
Speaker 8: What a burger?
Speaker 3: Fat burger?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know, no in la car all right,
Speaker 2: fatburger for sure? Yeah yeah, all right, Well take a break.
Speaker 2: See I should have known this. I should have known this.
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Speaker 2: Alex Ovechkin at eight hundred and eighty nine goals six
Speaker 2: away from the record. Does he hang around for a thousand?
Speaker 2: I guess if you get to nine hundred, I don't know.
Speaker 2: Is he slowing down? Plus he got injured earlier this year.
Speaker 2: I don't know how many games he missed, but he
Speaker 2: is still a beast out there. I'm surprised when he
Speaker 2: doesn't score, and it's really hard to score goals on
Speaker 2: a consistent basis, But I'm like, uh, oh, he didn't
Speaker 2: score last night. He's at eight hundred and eighty nine,
Speaker 2: six from the record. Now the NFL does what the
Speaker 2: NFL does, best. It likes to weak things. The NFL's
Speaker 2: Competition Committee likely to propose a change to the league's
Speaker 2: kickoff rules that could raise return rates for the upcoming season,
Speaker 2: a source told ESPN. The proposal, expected to be submitted
Speaker 2: in time for next week's league meetings in Palm Beach, Florida,
Speaker 2: would spot the touchbacks at the thirty five yard line
Speaker 2: rather than the thirty as it was during the twenty
Speaker 2: twenty four season, and so they revamped the kickoff format.
Speaker 2: Then the shift and field position could prompt some coaches
Speaker 2: to instruct their kickers more often to place the ball
Speaker 2: in the landing zone between the twenty yard line and
Speaker 2: the goal line rather than the end zone for a touchback.
Speaker 2: It could work in reverse, with more coaches instructing their
Speaker 2: returners to take the touchbacks when they catch the ball
Speaker 2: on the end zone rather than running out. Okay, at
Speaker 2: least twenty four owners have to vote to renew this
Speaker 2: for the twenty twenty five season, and the format produced
Speaker 2: a return rate of just under thirty three percent, So
Speaker 2: that's a really big rise from the previous year where
Speaker 2: it was around twenty two percent.
Speaker 3: So they're going to move on.
Speaker 2: Up to like the NFL has to decide do you
Speaker 2: want kickoffs. I know you want safe kickoffs, but I
Speaker 2: don't know if you can have both. Hey, we want
Speaker 2: to have kickoffs, but we don't want anybody to get hurt. Well,
Speaker 2: it's like the punt. There are a lot of guys
Speaker 2: who get hurt on punt returns, but they can't do
Speaker 2: anything about it. They can't say unless they go, Hey,
Speaker 2: when you kick, you can't run down the field until
Speaker 2: the kick is kicked, until you punt the ball. But
Speaker 2: you know, even then with the kickoff, you're at least
Speaker 2: what ten or so yards or fifteen yards away from
Speaker 2: the opposition where you're not getting a real head start.
Speaker 2: I don't know how you do it with a punt,
Speaker 2: but there are a lot of injuries on punt returns
Speaker 2: and nobody's changing. But with the format with the kickoff,
Speaker 2: it's we kind of want to encourage more kickoffs. We
Speaker 2: just don't want anybody to get hurt. But that's uh,
Speaker 2: that's being proposed right now, being proposed. They still have
Speaker 2: to vote on that. Jay in Michigan, Hi, Jay, what's
Speaker 2: on your mind?
Speaker 8: Dan?
Speaker 3: How's it going? Dennett's long time?
Speaker 8: First time?
Speaker 12: I just wanted to call and wish my mom a
Speaker 12: happy birthday on Friday and myself today, and uh, get
Speaker 12: your take on where you see the Oakland A's in
Speaker 12: this year.
Speaker 2: Happy birthday Jay to you and your mom. Hopefully you
Speaker 2: reach out to your mom on your own time. And
Speaker 2: as far as the Oakland A's, I.
Speaker 4: Don't have no idea.
Speaker 8: I don't.
Speaker 2: I'm going to wait a little while just to see.
Speaker 2: You know, are they the Sacramento A's. Are they the
Speaker 2: Oakland A's of Sacramento? Is it like the Los Angeles
Speaker 2: Angels of Anaheim?
Speaker 3: Okay?
Speaker 2: Uh, I don't know. They always seem to have one
Speaker 2: or two guys where you go. He's gonna look really
Speaker 2: good in another uniform. But that's about it. Yes, Todd, my.
Speaker 13: Half birthday's apple tenth. If you let me have a moment,
Speaker 13: that's one that wish myself in advance of happy half birthday.
Speaker 3: Okay, thank you?
Speaker 5: Yes, Paul, I'm on the a's website and the word
Speaker 5: Oakland has been scrubbed completely, just A's or athletics. The
Speaker 5: word Vegas is in there a few times, but you
Speaker 5: don't see Oakland.
Speaker 3: Anywhere near it. Matt in Los Angeles, good morning, Matt,
Speaker 3: what's on your mind today?
Speaker 12: Good morning, gentlemen. I have a part of the space
Speaker 12: bet on the eve of the MLB season, and I'm
Speaker 12: seeing it the juice for the Boston Red Sox to
Speaker 12: win the Al East.
Speaker 2: Okay, I like what Boston did in the off season.
Speaker 2: Does anybody? I mean, it's gonna be really competitive. Anybody
Speaker 2: want a piece of the Red Sox winning the East?
Speaker 3: Marvin, you look like you're poised and ready to say
Speaker 3: you'll take that bet.
Speaker 14: Is David Ortiz and Madi Ramirez playing for them?
Speaker 3: Okay?
Speaker 2: All right, little saucy there, so I'm guessing you're taking
Speaker 2: Matt up on the bet. Okay, all right, Matt, you
Speaker 2: got a bet. Marvin is gonna take a.
Speaker 3: Piece of that.
Speaker 12: All right, let's go.
Speaker 2: I like the Red Sox did a good job in
Speaker 2: the off season. The problem is they were only five
Speaker 2: hundred last year. But I don't think the Yankees are
Speaker 2: going to be great this year. Tampa Bay is always competitive,
Speaker 2: you imagine. I hope they move them to just a
Speaker 2: place that you can build a stadium, so it's not
Speaker 2: like it feels like year to year and we're like,
Speaker 2: what are the Rays gonna do? Where are they going
Speaker 2: to play? And they've been a pretty good organization through
Speaker 2: all of this. Yes, marm it just feels like the
Speaker 2: Dodgers and everybody else. Yes, Yes, if I gave you
Speaker 2: the Dodgers of the field, Todd, you get the Dodgers
Speaker 2: of the field.
Speaker 3: I think I'm gonna go with the Dodgers, all right.
Speaker 3: I'm believing all right, Oh you believe in them?
Speaker 13: Go back to bet.
Speaker 2: That's a bold statement right there, Todd Seaton, What about
Speaker 2: you Dodgers of the field?
Speaker 4: Field?
Speaker 5: All right, Marvin Dodgers, Paul Dodgers. First time ever I
Speaker 5: would say.
Speaker 3: That, I'm gonna say field. You know, it's always tricky.
Speaker 2: It's not how good you are, you know, one hundred
Speaker 2: and sixty two games, it's how good you are, and
Speaker 2: you know those best four out of seven. Now they're
Speaker 2: going to have a ton of pitching, a ton of pitching.
Speaker 2: Maybe not, you know, in the Mookie Bets situation is
Speaker 2: really scary. I don't know how much information they have
Speaker 2: on that other than he's lost like twenty twenty five
Speaker 2: pounds and he didn't have twenty twenty five pounds to lose.
Speaker 3: But do you see anything?
Speaker 6: Yeah, I've begun a very unofficial tracker. By the way,
Speaker 6: of all these random predictions that we keep throwing out,
Speaker 6: I have these like post it notes. Yeah, and I've begunick,
Speaker 6: Like I just put eleven thirty three, twenty six Dodgers
Speaker 6: of the Field, eleven fifty, Bill Belichick getting married, Mason Rudolph,
Speaker 6: where are we playing? I have all of these little
Speaker 6: post it sticky notes stuck up on the glass between
Speaker 6: me and Todd, just on the off chance that at
Speaker 6: some point we could bring that audio back.
Speaker 3: Okay, I like that.
Speaker 6: Yeah. Yeah, it's very nineteen eighty four ish of me,
Speaker 6: considering the computer I have sitting.
Speaker 4: In front of me.
Speaker 6: At some point I might transfer this over.
Speaker 4: I might.
Speaker 6: I like the post it notes, Yeah, I kind of
Speaker 6: do too.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Lebron James is going to continue or restart his podcast now.
Speaker 2: I know he was on with Pat McAfee yesterday. I
Speaker 2: think it airs today the interview. But do you know
Speaker 2: who the host is going to be. I don't think
Speaker 2: it's going to be JJ Reddick.
Speaker 5: We're gonna play guest that host. Yes, Lebron is relaunching
Speaker 5: the Mind the Game podcast they did with JJ Reddick,
Speaker 5: which he parlayed into the Laker job.
Speaker 3: It won't be Stephen A. Smith. It will not, I
Speaker 3: don't think so.
Speaker 5: It will be with a former great NBA player.
Speaker 2: Hello, Well that doesn't really okay, Gilbert or Renus No gills.
Speaker 6: Too big, heels too big at this point.
Speaker 5: This guy's pretty big. But he's between jobs, so this
Speaker 5: may relaunch his coaching career. Very great player, been on
Speaker 5: the show a number of times. Very great, very great,
Speaker 5: two time league MVP.
Speaker 6: Oh Stephen Nash.
Speaker 5: Steve Nash is the answer. Steve Nash with a new
Speaker 5: co host of Mind the Game podcast with Lebron Right.
Speaker 2: Okay, I don't know how interesting Steve would be as
Speaker 2: a host. Why do you say that, like JJ Reddick
Speaker 2: wanted to stir things up, I don't like Steve went
Speaker 2: out of his way to not stir things up.
Speaker 6: See right here in the low post. He's really got
Speaker 6: a flash to the ball, because that's what he really.
Speaker 13: Yes, Todd, they have a good engineer, because he's when
Speaker 13: he's been on with us, there's been some.
Speaker 3: Bad He never he never had a good phone ever. Ever.
Speaker 3: I think we offered to buy him one. It's like, damn,
Speaker 3: you have him on.
Speaker 2: And I think we'd always get him after a morning
Speaker 2: shoot around and the PR person with the Phoenix Suns
Speaker 2: would just hand her phone to him, and it was
Speaker 2: always a bad reception always.
Speaker 3: But all right, so Steve Nash, Yes, Marv, what the.
Speaker 14: Thing about that podcast when JJ and Lebron were on?
Speaker 14: It's not really about entertaining you, like lol, let's let
Speaker 14: let's have a good laugh. It's real, like in depth.
Speaker 14: It's called Mind the Game podcast, and they go through
Speaker 14: all these offensive schemes of different teams and different players
Speaker 14: and how they like to do things. So I think
Speaker 14: it might be perfect for a guy like that where
Speaker 14: he can, you know, kind of decipher different offices stuff
Speaker 14: like that. So it's not for like, lol audiences, it's
Speaker 14: not for entertainment purposes.
Speaker 2: Well, I wonder why he hasn't done this or been
Speaker 2: an analyst. Has he been asked to be an analyst?
Speaker 8: Yeah?
Speaker 6: See, I don't know, like right, if you're looking at
Speaker 6: the traditional analyst role, he's probably not right. But if
Speaker 6: you look at the the Kobe show that he started,
Speaker 6: it's and it's just him like like like Marvin was saying,
Speaker 6: like hardcore nerding out on basketball, rewinding the play, going
Speaker 6: back and forward, back and forth. See this deputake, See
Speaker 6: this deput takes right here. This is why it's so good.
Speaker 6: You know, you really have to be a super hardcore
Speaker 6: fan to enjoy that kind of analysis. I don't know
Speaker 6: that sitting at the desk with Ernie, you know, maybe
Speaker 6: that doesn't play with strengths because of his personality being
Speaker 6: a little more low key.
Speaker 2: But I could see where Kobe was maniacal at figuring
Speaker 2: things out, maniacal. I don't know if Steve was ever
Speaker 2: that way.
Speaker 6: Peyton Manning did the same thing.
Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, like you're maniacal.
Speaker 2: And you know, when you have a podcast called Details,
Speaker 2: I mean it is detailed.
Speaker 3: But I okay, good.
Speaker 2: You know Lebron has got a new podcast to ust
Speaker 2: time to play. Well, we have leftovers of in or around,
Speaker 2: and we have a bonus fill in the blank as well.
Speaker 3: We have so many things going.
Speaker 2: On, and I've got you know, let's do another hour
Speaker 2: one of these days, we're just gonna do another hour.
Speaker 2: We're gonna blow through the stomp sign. We're gonna do
Speaker 2: another hour.
Speaker 3: Here we go. Wait, I was waiting for the Yeah,
Speaker 3: let's do it. Why don't you give back to the
Speaker 3: audience for a change.
Speaker 4: I think we should do a twenty five hour marathon.
Speaker 3: Okay, all right, Paul.
Speaker 5: Two in or outs. We did this two weeks ago.
Speaker 5: Aaron Rodgers will be a stealer by Monday.
Speaker 2: By Monday, Todd out, see Marvin Out. I'm gonna say
Speaker 2: in just for giggles, all right.
Speaker 5: The NFL is making the kickoff return way better.
Speaker 3: It's the return of the return, yes, Todd Out, see
Speaker 3: Marvin Out.
Speaker 2: I'll say in is yeah, yeah, bonus fill in the
Speaker 2: blank Okay.
Speaker 5: Steve Nash is doing the podcast with Lebron because of blank.
Speaker 4: Side, because of Lebron. Well, Lebron James asked to do
Speaker 4: something to do.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I don't think that was the answer Paul he was
Speaker 2: looking for, but he's going to accept that.
Speaker 3: Satan.
Speaker 6: Well, if it's not Lebron, I'll say boredom.
Speaker 4: Okay, Marvin Amazon money.
Speaker 2: I don't know why he's doing it because I don't
Speaker 2: think he gets another opportunity to coach.
Speaker 3: I don't think so.
Speaker 2: That's the reason I thought no, because he's already done
Speaker 2: it didn't go well, JJ hadn't done it, and I
Speaker 2: think by all accounts, he's done a pretty good job
Speaker 2: this year. But I don't know if Steve gets another chance. Yeah, Paul,
Speaker 2: did it feel.
Speaker 5: When Reddick took the job that the clause were out
Speaker 5: for him to fail big time, more than any big
Speaker 5: time without, more than any coaching hire in the past decade.
Speaker 5: People were out to watch him fail. Yeah, it felt
Speaker 5: that way.
Speaker 2: Well, because he went to Duke and his whole attitude
Speaker 2: and when he was on First Take and podcast and
Speaker 2: never coached before. Smartest guy in the room. But he's
Speaker 2: done a really good job. Yes, he's navigated injuries here
Speaker 2: the trade with Luca incorporating him. You have the Browni factor.
Speaker 2: Did you see where Bronnie had like thirty nine in
Speaker 2: a G League game the other night.
Speaker 4: I know what the fifty fifth pick does.
Speaker 3: Yes, I'm glad.
Speaker 2: I'm happy for him. Let him have a little success here. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: I mean that's just what you do.
Speaker 6: He's I guess he's somewhere in between a G League
Speaker 6: player and an NBA player. Yeah, he's on the high
Speaker 6: end of G League and the low end of NBA.
Speaker 5: Yes, Paul, would you rather average thirty in the G
Speaker 5: League or two in the NBA.
Speaker 2: If they gave me the accommodations in the NBA. I
Speaker 2: would be fine with thirty nine in the G League,
Speaker 2: but I don't get that, so I guess I'll take
Speaker 2: our average two. He's not even averaging two in the NBA,
Speaker 2: I don't think. But yeah, i'd be the last guy
Speaker 2: on the bed in the NBA. Sure, I would put
Speaker 2: on a show during warm ups. Man, I would be
Speaker 2: in a full sweat after warm ups. I'd look like
Speaker 2: I had played the game. I remember there were times
Speaker 2: I didn't even take off my warm ups.
Speaker 4: It was like.
Speaker 3: I don't even need a shower.
Speaker 8: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Kind of sad, Okay, but I'm over it.
Speaker 4: I am.
Speaker 3: I'm over.
Speaker 4: I'm glad. You don't hold grudges or anything.
Speaker 2: Yeah, damn if they only had the transfer portal and
Speaker 2: they had the three point shot back when I was playing,
Speaker 2: Take a break. Last call for phone Calls? What we learned,
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Speaker 1: After this, be sure to catch the live edition of
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Speaker 3: Last Call for phone Calls? What we learn?
Speaker 2: What's in store tomorrow? This day in sports History? Greg Sankey,
Speaker 2: SEC Commissioner will be on the program tomorrow. Wally Zurbia,
Speaker 2: part of March Madness coverage on CBS, will stop by
Speaker 2: as well. Final results of the poll question Seaton.
Speaker 6: Yeah, who is the best pregame speecher on the Giants
Speaker 6: right now? Between Russell Wilson and Jamis Winston. Jamis Winston
Speaker 6: holding steady at ninety percent. That's good for him, big Win.
Speaker 6: And you can put one into place, a hard salary
Speaker 6: cap in baseball or a return to the old transfer
Speaker 6: system in college football. Right now, fifty six percent of
Speaker 6: the audience would rather have a hard salary cap in baseball.
Speaker 3: Chris and San Diego, Hi, Chris, what's on your mind today?
Speaker 15: Hey?
Speaker 8: Dan? Dan Edge five eleven two two. Hey, I have
Speaker 8: a son. He was the youngest of three brothers and
Speaker 8: a daughter and five kids all together, and we didn't
Speaker 8: have the resources to put him through travel ball and
Speaker 8: all that, especially in southern California, but we developed him.
Speaker 8: I say, we need the brothers too. As a catcher,
Speaker 8: you know, he had to add the accuracy to get
Speaker 8: back to the pitcher each pitch. Every pitch he was
Speaker 8: developed in, he called the game. And as he got
Speaker 8: bigger and stronger, he wanted to pitch. He had the
Speaker 8: four pitches through high school. They had a very successful
Speaker 8: high school league and as he developed, he went to
Speaker 8: junior college. One year, his catcher in high school was
Speaker 8: drafted right at ICEOL. We went to spring training. We
Speaker 8: had to extended spring rookie ball to watch his catcher play,
Speaker 8: and he knew he fit in. So he pitched one
Speaker 8: year in Southwestern College DUCO down in San Diego. And
Speaker 8: when the scout after he was drafted called on Friday,
Speaker 8: drafted Saturday, signed on Sunday at the house and I
Speaker 8: asked the scout, but what did he see and he said,
Speaker 8: he has a size, he has a mechanic. He was
Speaker 8: drafted by the Nationals, and as a dad, I thought, okay,
Speaker 8: everything's there, and they said we will help him develop.
Speaker 8: One thing I can offer to parents as a parent
Speaker 8: of a kid who was drafted and played professional baseball
Speaker 8: for five years, his mechanics and locations. Forget the curve ball,
Speaker 8: twelve year old, eleven year old, ten year old, forget
Speaker 8: all that locate the pitch work on your mechanics. They
Speaker 8: will tell you to high school and JUCO and if
Speaker 8: you do happen to be fortunate enough for one percent
Speaker 8: er to get drafted.
Speaker 2: All right, well, thank you, Chris. Got to get to
Speaker 2: the story a little bit quicker. Okay, you had good intentions,
Speaker 2: but got to get to this story. Yes, Toney, you
Speaker 2: might have just.
Speaker 13: Had Mechanics and location are important. If you have a
Speaker 13: young pitcher, that is true, then you're out.
Speaker 2: And that's coming from you. Who can't you know that
Speaker 2: cut it in half and then cut it in half.
Speaker 4: That was even Wait till then for me?
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, should have had the clock on him. He yes,
Speaker 2: we should have a pitch clock on it. I would
Speaker 2: have been Yes. If your kid's a pitcher and he
Speaker 2: throws hard, then you have to brace yourself for Tommy
Speaker 2: John surgery.
Speaker 3: That's a reality this day in sports history, Paul.
Speaker 5: This is one of my favorites. Nineteen thirty one, Boston
Speaker 5: Bruins coach Art Ross became the first NHL coach to
Speaker 5: pull his goalie for an extra attacker in the Stanley
Speaker 5: Cup semifinals. Can you imagine the reaction to the other team.
Speaker 5: The goalie is just skating off the ice, another guy's
Speaker 5: flying on and it's inside the rules, and then let's
Speaker 5: go twenty fourteen, the National Labor Relations Board rule that
Speaker 5: college football players at Northwestern could unionize.
Speaker 3: They did not nineteen seventy three.
Speaker 2: It might be the best performance I ever saw, considering
Speaker 2: it was in the championship game. Bill Walton scored forty four.
Speaker 2: UCLA beat Memphis, and Bill, I think it was twenty
Speaker 2: one to twenty two from the floor. I think he
Speaker 2: actually missed three free throws. He missed more free throws
Speaker 2: than he did field goals. And I think the one
Speaker 2: missy the he had was an offense of goaltending. Magic
Speaker 2: Johnson beat Larry Bird on this day, the highest rated
Speaker 2: college basketball game in history.
Speaker 7: Uh.
Speaker 2: Gilbert Arenas, friend of the Show, sentenced to thirty days
Speaker 2: halfway House, two years probation, five thousand dollars fine, four
Speaker 2: hundred hours of community service. He brought guns into the
Speaker 2: Wizard's locker room. Yeah, yeah, who is it? Critendon?
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, yes, yes, Tom.
Speaker 13: If they were still called the Bullets at the time with.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna give you a bloop on that one. Now
Speaker 2: they used to be the Baltimore Bullets, Yes, yes, Marvin.
Speaker 4: Sorry.
Speaker 14: Going back to Magic and Bird, are they the two
Speaker 14: most important figures in the history of the NBA.
Speaker 3: You're gonna drop that on me with three minutes ago?
Speaker 3: What are you doing?
Speaker 4: We're doing another hour?
Speaker 2: Oh okay, you and me, we're gonna be in the crates.
Speaker 2: The kids like to say, yeah, you know what they
Speaker 2: did when they did it? Where the NBA was before that. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's pretty big stuff there. That's why I think they
Speaker 2: should always be ranked. It should be Magic Bird Bird
Speaker 2: and Magic on the all time list, you know, top ten,
Speaker 2: Those two should occupy one of the slots there.
Speaker 3: Anything to watch tonight?
Speaker 5: We have some really bad basketball, Dan, I know you
Speaker 5: love that. Wizards sixers tonight.
Speaker 3: Oh my goodness.
Speaker 5: Now there's good stuff. Lakers, Pacers, Bucks, Nuggets, Celtic Suns.
Speaker 5: That's decent, but you should be watching Wizards sixers.
Speaker 2: I'm watching Lakers Pacers because now it's starting to get
Speaker 2: interesting here. And remember when I said about the Lakers.
Speaker 2: The difference in the Lakers was they were playing defense.
Speaker 2: If they play defense, they can go to the Western
Speaker 2: Conference championship game. I really believe that the Western Conference finals.
Speaker 2: I really believe that they play defense. But when you
Speaker 2: don't play defense, you don't score enough to outscore people
Speaker 2: like some of these other teams do. That is still
Speaker 2: my big concern. Let me see Colin in Arkansas. Hi, Colin,
Speaker 2: what's on your mind?
Speaker 15: Ind B, I know I'm a little late here with
Speaker 15: the whole basketball football school narrative, but I wanted to
Speaker 15: trim in a as a lifelong razorback fan, we are
Speaker 15: indeed a basketball school, and I'm fine with that. It's
Speaker 15: got a rich history from Eddie Sutton to Nolan Richardson
Speaker 15: Muscleman and now with Cal that's a few hall of
Speaker 15: famers right there. Paul's polling question on rather winning a
Speaker 15: title in basketball or SEC conference title is the wrong question.
Speaker 15: I would say I take basketball all day there, But
Speaker 15: if it was between a football title and a basketball title,
Speaker 15: I'd probably lean football.
Speaker 2: Oh of course, you would. Just about everybody would, Football's king.
Speaker 2: Let's go around the room. Did we learn anything today, Tom?
Speaker 4: I think we did.
Speaker 13: Ernie Johnson thinks if he and the inside the NBA
Speaker 13: crew were comfy in street clothes on the air one night,
Speaker 13: Anthony Davis might not take it as an homage to him.
Speaker 6: Seaton, what did you learn today, Ernie Johnson, big hoodie guy. Yes, yes, Marvin.
Speaker 4: Ernie Johnson not afraid of shack.
Speaker 5: Oh, we're tweaking the kickoff.
Speaker 3: Todd Wood I learn if he plays anywhere near expectations.
Speaker 13: You believe Cooper Flag can make close to a billion
Speaker 13: dollars in his pro career.
Speaker 2: You just look at what you're going to get with
Speaker 2: your You know, he'll have the rookie contract, then you
Speaker 2: have the second one, then you have the third one.
Speaker 2: He's eighteen years of age. A billion might be light.
Speaker 2: Thanks for joining us. Let's do it again tomorrow