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Speaker 1: Welcome to Wired to Hunts Rutt Fresh Radio bringing you

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Speaker 1: the latest reports from the White Tailed Woods and now

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Speaker 1: your hosts, Casey Smith Tyler Jones. Bird. It's cold outside

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Speaker 1: with Christmas fast approaching. I know it's hard to get

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Speaker 1: in the woods, but hunters around the country are finding

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Speaker 1: ways to make it work. Especially with the cold weather.

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Speaker 1: It is time still to get in the woods and

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Speaker 1: feel some of those late season tags. This is Rough

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Speaker 1: Fresh Radio. I'm your host, Casey Smith. I do my

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Speaker 1: best to sound cool, and I've got a cool guy

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Speaker 1: here with me. His name is Mark Kenyon. Mark. Welcome

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Speaker 1: to Texas. Tyler Jones is here as well, he said, welcome.

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Speaker 1: Just find that time. Thanks man, and thanks for having

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Speaker 1: me in Texas. Here with you're welcome, Welcome, Welcome, welcome. Um.

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Speaker 1: We've done our best to eat Mexican food every meal

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Speaker 1: of the day. You might have just slaved me tonight

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Speaker 1: like I'm about to slay the dragon. Hunt, you slay

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Speaker 1: the dragon with the with the full They have something

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Speaker 1: here called the full donkey. Yeah, and we ate the

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Speaker 1: full donkey. We did. Everybody except Eric got a full

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Speaker 1: donkey and he's had burrito envy yea. He told us

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Speaker 1: on the way home. So Donkey's just kicking in my belly, right,

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Speaker 1: So I just in there, just he hauling around. Uh. Legitimately,

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Speaker 1: that was a burrito that was more than a foot long.

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Speaker 1: That might have been like sixteen inches of bridle. That

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Speaker 1: would make Jared jealous for sure, way more than full

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Speaker 1: of Uh. So it was a tasty treat. We've been

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Speaker 1: doing some hunting in Texas which is really exciting. We

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Speaker 1: got some folks today to talk about some hunting around

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Speaker 1: the country. One of the big themes, it seems, is

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Speaker 1: cold weather, and uh, cold weather is controversial. Did y'all

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Speaker 1: realize that I didn't until the day And when it

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Speaker 1: comes to dear movement, cold weather is controversial. Who's does that?

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Speaker 1: Um me? Um? Well, I would say that some. So

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Speaker 1: there's organizations out there and who we've interviewed some. We

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Speaker 1: talk about hunting in Georgia. Um and their studies out

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Speaker 1: and deer move the same cold weather, I know. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: And you know what the problem is, Mark, I think

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Speaker 1: of day in the twenty four hour period the movement happens,

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Speaker 1: they're measuring different stuff. So does the total amount of

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Speaker 1: movement change? Probably not, I believe that, But does when

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Speaker 1: what about a study that looked at just bucks over

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Speaker 1: three years old or something like that. Um, absolutely, there's

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Speaker 1: stuff for sure time, But I think that um, as

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Speaker 1: I don't know, it's kind of interesting to think that. UM,

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Speaker 1: it gives you hope that you always have a chance

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Speaker 1: I mean, we're not out there, uh, perceiving deer movement

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Speaker 1: People also like kind of looking back on this rut

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Speaker 1: Why don't we call it? Guy? That's right, that's somebody

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Speaker 1: for our time. Uh. But so let's look back at

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Speaker 1: this is the final episode of refresh on this on

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Speaker 1: the year. We've had a ton of fun doing this thing.

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Speaker 1: Really appreciate you all listening. Uh, since we got Mark

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Speaker 1: What's one of your big takeaways from the season as

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I think one thing that stands out

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Speaker 1: intensees it get? Like how comfortable are these deer cruising

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you bet, thanks for having me. All right. Now,

426
00:22:44,440 --> 00:22:47,480
Speaker 1: I've got Josh Ilderton. He's up in West Virginia. He

427
00:22:47,480 --> 00:22:49,800
Speaker 1: has been spending some time hunting mountain bucks up there

428
00:22:49,800 --> 00:22:53,120
Speaker 1: and doing some cool stuff video and and all that. Josh,

429
00:22:53,560 --> 00:22:55,600
Speaker 1: what's the word from your neck of the woods man?

430
00:22:56,880 --> 00:23:00,639
Speaker 1: My word when Nick Woods and West Virginia is it

431
00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:06,760
Speaker 1: was a really good movement this past Thursday and Friday. Uh,

432
00:23:06,800 --> 00:23:12,720
Speaker 1: this kind of secondary like those coming in and if

433
00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:15,479
Speaker 1: you were near them and then you were getting some movement.

434
00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:19,160
Speaker 1: The last two weeks have been deader than I'll get out,

435
00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:21,160
Speaker 1: but it seems to be picking up and right now

436
00:23:21,320 --> 00:23:24,320
Speaker 1: with this second rut and these late the late does

437
00:23:24,359 --> 00:23:27,160
Speaker 1: start to come in to heat. Yeah, yeah, that's good.

438
00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:29,520
Speaker 1: So you you are seeing a little bit of second

439
00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:33,480
Speaker 1: rut happening. Then, yeah, we did did on the Thursday

440
00:23:33,520 --> 00:23:37,520
Speaker 1: and Friday saw a lot of that, actually saw some breathing. Um,

441
00:23:37,560 --> 00:23:41,840
Speaker 1: how about that? And then it kind of slowed down

442
00:23:43,560 --> 00:23:47,120
Speaker 1: and had some we had midday movement yesterday and then

443
00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:49,520
Speaker 1: nothing in the morning and hardly nothing in the evening

444
00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:53,840
Speaker 1: and then uh, of course I ain't gonna report back

445
00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:56,440
Speaker 1: from Zack yet today, but he's seeing some deer early

446
00:23:56,520 --> 00:23:59,479
Speaker 1: this morning, but really no chasing or or rut movement.

447
00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:03,800
Speaker 1: So you have any assumptions about that midday movement. Is

448
00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:07,360
Speaker 1: that a moon based thing or what do you think? Yeah,

449
00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:10,440
Speaker 1: that's what I think it is. U. I think this

450
00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:13,199
Speaker 1: red action is hit or hit or miss, and it

451
00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:19,240
Speaker 1: will be for the next four or five days. Uh

452
00:24:19,320 --> 00:24:22,480
Speaker 1: for these lake those and the and the you know,

453
00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:27,320
Speaker 1: the the late yearlings if they get bred this year. Uh,

454
00:24:27,600 --> 00:24:30,119
Speaker 1: I think it's the secondary rust is gonna be hit

455
00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:33,000
Speaker 1: or miss and then hopefully this deers start going into

456
00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:37,040
Speaker 1: a feeding frenzy within the last two weeks of season. Yeah,

457
00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:41,000
Speaker 1: is there any pattern to finding those yearlins that might

458
00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:43,440
Speaker 1: come into heat late? Like could you ever do anything

459
00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:45,159
Speaker 1: like that where you're like, oh, that do family group's

460
00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:46,800
Speaker 1: got like three year lands in it. So I'm gonna

461
00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:48,440
Speaker 1: hunt over in that area. I know where they're at,

462
00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:50,480
Speaker 1: and hopefully one of those will be one of those

463
00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:56,359
Speaker 1: late estrus does. Yeah, we do it sometimes, but it

464
00:24:56,520 --> 00:24:59,439
Speaker 1: is so big and in the mountains are it's so

465
00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:03,080
Speaker 1: vas that there's no it's hard to pattern deer here

466
00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:07,880
Speaker 1: in southern West Virginia because they because they can. They

467
00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:13,640
Speaker 1: could be over here today and over there for three days.

468
00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:19,480
Speaker 1: And it's just really hard to pattern deer unless you're feeding.

469
00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:22,960
Speaker 1: Yeah you can, you can put a pattern on them

470
00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:26,119
Speaker 1: if you're feeding, but it's really hard to pattern them.

471
00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:29,080
Speaker 1: So are y'all are y'all hunting? Uh? Just high traffic

472
00:25:29,119 --> 00:25:31,359
Speaker 1: areas right now? Or what what in particular are you

473
00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:34,399
Speaker 1: looking at? Well, we run, we run a lot of

474
00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:38,880
Speaker 1: game cameras, and when we see action on game cameras,

475
00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:43,080
Speaker 1: we go into that area. Gotchata, I know what. We

476
00:25:43,240 --> 00:25:46,040
Speaker 1: miss a lot of stuff that way. But it uh,

477
00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:50,360
Speaker 1: we especially this late season where the i mean nick

478
00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:53,000
Speaker 1: bucks are run down. You know, they look like damn

479
00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:56,359
Speaker 1: it to hell, and it's just uh, they're having to

480
00:25:56,400 --> 00:26:00,360
Speaker 1: start re energizing and eating, and so we we've got

481
00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:02,919
Speaker 1: a lot of cameras on food sources and stuff and

482
00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:06,679
Speaker 1: hopefully well so in that vast country, I'm assuming you

483
00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:09,159
Speaker 1: don't have a ton of agricultural food sources. What are

484
00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:13,919
Speaker 1: those deer eating right now? Right now, they're browsing, you know,

485
00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:18,880
Speaker 1: and they're eating they're eating red oaks. Uh they're still

486
00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:21,560
Speaker 1: on the ground, but you know, all the white oaks

487
00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:25,960
Speaker 1: and uh, they're all gone and what's left on the

488
00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:28,639
Speaker 1: ground rotting. So they're eating what. You know, if there

489
00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:31,960
Speaker 1: are red oaks on the ground, they're eating them. But heck,

490
00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:34,679
Speaker 1: there ain't a whole lot of them, so they're mainly

491
00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:37,720
Speaker 1: just browsing. So you're looking for clear cuts and stuff

492
00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:43,679
Speaker 1: like that. Well we had, we had old coal mining jobs.

493
00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:48,920
Speaker 1: So it's it's a bunch of reclaiming, like automolives and

494
00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:52,000
Speaker 1: like crpas, a lot of a lot of a lot

495
00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:58,880
Speaker 1: of salt briars and uh, just dick like crpas stuff. Yeah,

496
00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:01,119
Speaker 1: So are you gonna stay with that in the next week?

497
00:27:01,280 --> 00:27:03,919
Speaker 1: That kind of pattern is hunting those areas looking for

498
00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:07,679
Speaker 1: deer they're coming back to to feed heavy. Yeah, and

499
00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:11,080
Speaker 1: then and then the the grasses, you know, there's a

500
00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:14,240
Speaker 1: lot it's it's it's it's pretty good open country. Where

501
00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:18,400
Speaker 1: we hunt, So we'll go back to UH at some

502
00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:20,679
Speaker 1: point that we keep on telling ourselves to this, and

503
00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:23,000
Speaker 1: we keep on grinding. But at some point these deer's

504
00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:25,760
Speaker 1: got to get back into grass and start feeding, and

505
00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:28,760
Speaker 1: the you know, the shooter bucks will show up to

506
00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:33,600
Speaker 1: give us a chance to spot stop. So UH, Zach

507
00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:38,360
Speaker 1: will keep on having and then I will probably glass

508
00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:43,080
Speaker 1: and try to find bucks. That way, got you cool? Man? Well,

509
00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:45,840
Speaker 1: it sounds like a got good playing going forward. Um.

510
00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:49,360
Speaker 1: If you're looking at the next week, all things considered,

511
00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:54,239
Speaker 1: moon weather, um, and just time of year. Um, if

512
00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:56,600
Speaker 1: you had to put a number on it, one to ten,

513
00:27:56,760 --> 00:27:59,840
Speaker 1: what would your rate the buck buck movement as being

514
00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:03,520
Speaker 1: Can I put it? Can I put two two numbers

515
00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:05,600
Speaker 1: on it? Well? Yeah, I think we could do that.

516
00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:08,800
Speaker 1: That's a good question. All right, So I'll get I'll

517
00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:14,600
Speaker 1: put a three on today through Wednesday, and then I'll

518
00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:19,480
Speaker 1: put a eight and a half Wednesday through the week. Right, man,

519
00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:22,440
Speaker 1: that's high. I like that. Give me good confidence. Wants

520
00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:27,920
Speaker 1: to be changed there? Uh, just kind of going by

521
00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:32,280
Speaker 1: my moon charts in the movement we've been seeing UH

522
00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:34,360
Speaker 1: and the weather that's hit down here. I think it's

523
00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:40,040
Speaker 1: slow here. The next couple of days. All right, yeah,

524
00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:43,240
Speaker 1: cool man. We are looking for a mooner to get

525
00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:45,000
Speaker 1: on here, and then you're just the guy, so we

526
00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:50,000
Speaker 1: appreciate that solid information. Sir. Let me let me tell

527
00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:54,640
Speaker 1: you I killed my buck turn the redmon, so they're

528
00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:59,480
Speaker 1: not activity if you want it, they wi just the

529
00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:04,520
Speaker 1: moon and wind. Yeah, yeah, yeah, well awesome man. We'll

530
00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:07,880
Speaker 1: appreciate the information. And uh, I hope that you have

531
00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:11,320
Speaker 1: good success here at the end of the month. Man. Yeah, man,

532
00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:27,920
Speaker 1: y'all have a great trip too. All right, we have

533
00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:31,440
Speaker 1: got Lindsay Thomas Jr. Of the National Deer Association on

534
00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:34,240
Speaker 1: the line. This dude's been hunting down the southeast Georgia. Lindsay,

535
00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:37,120
Speaker 1: what's happening? Man? Oh, it is not a lot. How

536
00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:39,480
Speaker 1: about you, guys? You're doing alright, We're doing good. We're

537
00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:42,160
Speaker 1: kind of excited. We're we're in Texas hunting right now

538
00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:44,520
Speaker 1: and got some cool weather. And I bet you that

539
00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:48,160
Speaker 1: that cool weather's headed y'all's direction, isn't it it is?

540
00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:52,000
Speaker 1: We're looking for some deep cold for Georgia coming up soon. Yeah?

541
00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:54,800
Speaker 1: How about that? So you've been hunting some recently, has

542
00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:59,280
Speaker 1: it been warmer and has that affected deer. It was

543
00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:03,280
Speaker 1: pretty warm throughout most of the early season for us. UM.

544
00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:05,920
Speaker 1: And this is I'm in southeast Georgia on on the

545
00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:09,160
Speaker 1: near the coast. We have a pretty early rut there. Um,

546
00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:12,520
Speaker 1: it's late October early November, so Halloween is kind of

547
00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:14,920
Speaker 1: right around you know, peak rutt for us. And it

548
00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:17,200
Speaker 1: definitely was you know, warm earlier in the year. And

549
00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:20,320
Speaker 1: we're getting some cold weather now. But you know, they're

550
00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:24,320
Speaker 1: gonna rut regardless of what the temperature is around the

551
00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:26,800
Speaker 1: same time every year. So our rutt was when it

552
00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:31,280
Speaker 1: was supposed to be. Um. But yeah, it's this colder weather.

553
00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:34,280
Speaker 1: It's obviously nice to get in the woods when it's colder. Yeah.

554
00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:36,400
Speaker 1: So you're down there in that pine country. I know, y'all.

555
00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:38,400
Speaker 1: Y'all do pine straw on that kind of stuff, which

556
00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:42,360
Speaker 1: is really cool. Not traditionally known as like uh great

557
00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:44,520
Speaker 1: deer forage, though you know, they don't really like the

558
00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:47,240
Speaker 1: pineheels too much. I don't imagine. So, Um, what is

559
00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:50,200
Speaker 1: kind of the the key to to finding deer in

560
00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:53,160
Speaker 1: that kind of country? Are you looking for uh, thick

561
00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:55,880
Speaker 1: pockets of bedding or kind of how do you hunt

562
00:30:55,920 --> 00:31:00,320
Speaker 1: outside those rut windows? Well, it's uh, it's the flats

563
00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:02,280
Speaker 1: for sure, and then a lot of timber activity, so

564
00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:05,200
Speaker 1: a lot of cover in all directions. So yeah, it's

565
00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:07,640
Speaker 1: tough to sort of discern what a bedding area is

566
00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:11,080
Speaker 1: for for deer in South Georgia or any of the

567
00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:15,120
Speaker 1: you know sort of uh fabled movement patterns of bed

568
00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:18,240
Speaker 1: to feed. You know, it's that's tough to find. So

569
00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:22,080
Speaker 1: you know, it's it's natural foods, it's acres, it is

570
00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:26,320
Speaker 1: uh soft masked um. And then food plots if you've

571
00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:31,440
Speaker 1: got them, but um, usually um, what happens is here

572
00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:33,960
Speaker 1: a lot of the food plots get hunted early, um

573
00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:36,160
Speaker 1: and get pressured out and then so you're not seeing

574
00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:38,760
Speaker 1: as many deer and and that's that's what we've seen

575
00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:43,080
Speaker 1: here this year. Um. But now if you've got food

576
00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:46,239
Speaker 1: plots that haven't been pressured late in the season like

577
00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:48,160
Speaker 1: this right now, that can be really good or at

578
00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:50,160
Speaker 1: least some plots maybe you hadn't hunted in a few

579
00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:53,200
Speaker 1: weeks and you can sneak back in there. Um. So

580
00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:56,280
Speaker 1: food is always a big part of it for us. UM.

581
00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:59,280
Speaker 1: And you know, getting in some swamps and areas where

582
00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:01,520
Speaker 1: you can see a good ways when the when the

583
00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:03,360
Speaker 1: peak movement is on back, you know, like I said

584
00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:06,920
Speaker 1: in late October. Yeah, so you know, for those guys

585
00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:09,800
Speaker 1: that might not have the food plots and talk about

586
00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:12,800
Speaker 1: a little bit about like native forage maybe you know,

587
00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:15,080
Speaker 1: for us, like here in in East Texas this time

588
00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:17,959
Speaker 1: of year, we still have green you know, in areas

589
00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:21,120
Speaker 1: pretty much year round. Same for y'all. Imagine, uh, you know,

590
00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:23,200
Speaker 1: for us, like you see deer starting hit uh and

591
00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:25,440
Speaker 1: I know it's a non native, but privet we see

592
00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:28,840
Speaker 1: honeysuckle being browsed pretty heavy. To are there are there

593
00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:30,680
Speaker 1: things like that that people could key in on if

594
00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:34,520
Speaker 1: they don't have food plots. There are some, um, but

595
00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:36,880
Speaker 1: mostly this time of year, what what I see is

596
00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:40,480
Speaker 1: acrons that are remaining in the red oak family. Usually

597
00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:43,719
Speaker 1: for us it's it's water oaks, um. And we do

598
00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:45,920
Speaker 1: have some live oaks that are holding late this year.

599
00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:49,240
Speaker 1: Uh So, finding any acres you can that are still

600
00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:53,560
Speaker 1: around and as as some people know the red oak family,

601
00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:56,160
Speaker 1: you know, they tend to last longer on the ground

602
00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:59,280
Speaker 1: and they're viable, you know, on for weeks after they've

603
00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:02,200
Speaker 1: fallen from a tree, unlike acrons in the white oak family,

604
00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:05,440
Speaker 1: which get gone fast, but also don't last as long

605
00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:08,000
Speaker 1: they go ahead and Germany. So anyhow, if you if

606
00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:11,200
Speaker 1: you've you know, you might have had um some red oaks,

607
00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:13,800
Speaker 1: water oaks, any any oak in the red oak family

608
00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:16,000
Speaker 1: that was dropping earlier this year, but the deer didn't

609
00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:17,440
Speaker 1: seem to be attracted to it. You need to go

610
00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:21,880
Speaker 1: back and check those again because now as forage gets scarce,

611
00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:24,800
Speaker 1: now that we're getting some some good cold, you know,

612
00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:27,520
Speaker 1: deer will circle back and look for those and you'll

613
00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:30,880
Speaker 1: find activity under those trees even though the acorns have

614
00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:34,280
Speaker 1: been sitting there for weeks. So you mentioned the cold.

615
00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:37,000
Speaker 1: They're much of the South and really the whole country

616
00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:38,920
Speaker 1: is going to experience cold, but particularly in the South

617
00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:42,200
Speaker 1: that's pretty timely because we're still hunting deer. Um. How

618
00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:44,440
Speaker 1: do you feel like that's going to affect deer movement,

619
00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:49,120
Speaker 1: that that really sharp cold spell. Uh, the science shows

620
00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:51,800
Speaker 1: it doesn't really affect deer movement. Deer got to eat

621
00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:56,200
Speaker 1: every day of the year, regardless of what the temperature is. Um,

622
00:33:56,280 --> 00:33:59,520
Speaker 1: So you know, find where the food is and and

623
00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:02,600
Speaker 1: that's where you need to be. And this time of year,

624
00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:04,680
Speaker 1: you know, I think I told you all, I'm already

625
00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:07,560
Speaker 1: seeing bucks getting back together in bachelor groups on my

626
00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:10,799
Speaker 1: cameras because we're so far out from the rut at

627
00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:13,120
Speaker 1: this point. Um, you know, it's been a month and

628
00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:18,160
Speaker 1: a half basically since the peak, and so you know,

629
00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:21,919
Speaker 1: bucks are they're trying to wherever you hunt after the rut,

630
00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:24,600
Speaker 1: bucks are gonna be trying to catch up physically because

631
00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:27,920
Speaker 1: they've been exerting themselves chasing dose been a lot of

632
00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:30,239
Speaker 1: time without eating. They need to get caught up, and

633
00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:33,920
Speaker 1: so they're gonna be, you know, on food. Um. And

634
00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:36,560
Speaker 1: it's regardless of the weather. You know, we see that

635
00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:39,959
Speaker 1: even if in where we continue to have mild weather

636
00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:42,640
Speaker 1: right on up to Christmas and beyond, I mean, they

637
00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:47,239
Speaker 1: still got to eat every day. Um. So again it's

638
00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:50,879
Speaker 1: now the food. The weather may affect food sources if

639
00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:53,239
Speaker 1: it hasn't been cold yet and it hasn't killed off

640
00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:56,600
Speaker 1: a lot of the natural forage uh and green forage,

641
00:34:56,600 --> 00:34:58,440
Speaker 1: and then that's you know, they may still be on that.

642
00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:01,560
Speaker 1: But if we get a a deep cold snap and

643
00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:04,719
Speaker 1: it does sort of convert over uh to uh the

644
00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:09,040
Speaker 1: deer to winter brows versus you know, green forwards, then

645
00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:12,120
Speaker 1: you're gonna see them hunting acorns and and hitting food

646
00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:15,000
Speaker 1: plots and other things that are available, particularly if you've

647
00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:17,960
Speaker 1: got like a Braska food plot that's still around, still productive,

648
00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:21,160
Speaker 1: Um that you know that they will really be key

649
00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:23,520
Speaker 1: on those. Yeah. Yeah, man, that's good info right there.

650
00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:25,200
Speaker 1: I appreciate that, dude. So if you had to look

651
00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:28,000
Speaker 1: forward to the next week and give buck movement a

652
00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:30,239
Speaker 1: rating from one to ten, what would you call it,

653
00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:35,759
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say, you know, five to six. It's it's

654
00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:39,240
Speaker 1: pretty good movement. It's not rut movement. It's just um,

655
00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:41,359
Speaker 1: you know, bucks are like I said, I'm seeing them

656
00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:44,160
Speaker 1: coming back to food plots and out there even together

657
00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:49,680
Speaker 1: in groups, you know, chowing down. Um, they're hungry and uh,

658
00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:51,880
Speaker 1: they got to get caught up. So that's that's what

659
00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:55,040
Speaker 1: they're doing. Now. You may not see them in the daylight,

660
00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:57,479
Speaker 1: and I'm not seeing daylight moving on my cameras because

661
00:35:57,520 --> 00:35:59,960
Speaker 1: all my cameras are on food plots and all those

662
00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:02,640
Speaker 1: camera which I moved him there in in uh you know,

663
00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:06,160
Speaker 1: over Thanksgiving holiday, I moved my cameras from rut related

664
00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:10,239
Speaker 1: locations like scrapes to food plots. And all those food

665
00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:13,400
Speaker 1: plots had been hunted throughout the season. So all the

666
00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:15,520
Speaker 1: activity I'm seeing on those plots right now is a

667
00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:18,439
Speaker 1: night and that makes sense. That's from the pressure. It's

668
00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:21,080
Speaker 1: not because deer went nocturnal. That's you know, my cameras

669
00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:23,360
Speaker 1: are in places where deer have been pressured all season,

670
00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:26,200
Speaker 1: and so they're only coming in there in the dark. Uh,

671
00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:29,120
Speaker 1: they're still moving in daylight. Uh. You just gotta find

672
00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:32,520
Speaker 1: where that is. Yeah, awesome, man, appreciate the information, Lindsay,

673
00:36:32,520 --> 00:36:35,319
Speaker 1: and I hope that you have a very merry Christmas, sir,

674
00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:38,600
Speaker 1: saying to you guys and good luck in South Texas.

675
00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:42,960
Speaker 1: All right, we're talking to Greg Farrell. He's with First Slide.

676
00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:47,160
Speaker 1: There's a lot of cool things they're designing, awesome gear

677
00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:50,840
Speaker 1: and uh he's been in Mississippi recently hanging out with

678
00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:55,359
Speaker 1: old Levi, And Um, I mean, how did you How

679
00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:57,440
Speaker 1: did Levi get get it done the first night? And

680
00:36:57,440 --> 00:37:00,400
Speaker 1: you didn't, Man, I don't understand that, you know, I

681
00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:03,279
Speaker 1: asked myself the same thing. But I guess if you uh,

682
00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:05,799
Speaker 1: if you're gonna lose to somebody, maybe losing to the

683
00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:07,640
Speaker 1: greatest guy to ever do it, I guess it's littally

684
00:37:07,640 --> 00:37:11,160
Speaker 1: easier to sleep at night. Yeah, you'd hate to lose

685
00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:13,799
Speaker 1: like me, r K, that's really the bottom of the

686
00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:18,360
Speaker 1: barrel at that point. Man. So uh was it the

687
00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:22,319
Speaker 1: rut down there? Yeah? So I was down there. Um,

688
00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:24,440
Speaker 1: last week s would have been you know hunting dates

689
00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:27,879
Speaker 1: like the eleventh to the sixteenth of December, and man,

690
00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:30,840
Speaker 1: that was like it was right on the tail and

691
00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:33,359
Speaker 1: um of their rut, which is pretty cool in terms

692
00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:35,760
Speaker 1: of being able to extend, you know, like a true

693
00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:38,239
Speaker 1: rut hunt into the month of December versus you know

694
00:37:38,239 --> 00:37:40,839
Speaker 1: what I'm used to kind of you know, being in

695
00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:43,120
Speaker 1: the Midwest as much as possible. It's kind of that

696
00:37:43,160 --> 00:37:46,799
Speaker 1: November times, right, So it's pretty awesome. So, uh, were

697
00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:50,320
Speaker 1: you using like typical kind of I guess shoulder rut tactics?

698
00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:54,279
Speaker 1: Were you doing some calling and stuff like that. Yeah.

699
00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:57,279
Speaker 1: So the place we were on m you know, pretty

700
00:37:57,320 --> 00:37:59,799
Speaker 1: heavily managed in terms of age class of beer. So

701
00:37:59,840 --> 00:38:02,839
Speaker 1: the buck to dote ratio is is really good. Um,

702
00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:05,200
Speaker 1: there's a lot of you know that older age class year,

703
00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:07,080
Speaker 1: a lot of deer make it you know three four

704
00:38:07,160 --> 00:38:11,160
Speaker 1: plus there. So Um, because of that, I would say

705
00:38:11,239 --> 00:38:13,680
Speaker 1: we were using you know, some of those shoulder tactics,

706
00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:17,279
Speaker 1: like they were still they still respond to calls. The

707
00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:20,040
Speaker 1: bucks are pretty aggressive there because you know, there is

708
00:38:20,120 --> 00:38:24,479
Speaker 1: a pretty good number of bucks per dough on that place. Um,

709
00:38:24,520 --> 00:38:27,399
Speaker 1: I would say, however, I think we caught like the

710
00:38:27,520 --> 00:38:29,799
Speaker 1: very tail end of it. So really what we were

711
00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:32,600
Speaker 1: seeing is like the first day, first day and a half,

712
00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:37,120
Speaker 1: there's still some good chasing and and seeking going on. Um,

713
00:38:37,239 --> 00:38:40,200
Speaker 1: those bucks were moving around trying to you know, established

714
00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:43,360
Speaker 1: and maintain their territory and trying to pick up a

715
00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:46,680
Speaker 1: late hot dough. But really the rest of the week

716
00:38:47,239 --> 00:38:49,839
Speaker 1: it was tough. It got a little warm, um and

717
00:38:49,880 --> 00:38:53,600
Speaker 1: the bigger mature deer were definitely locked down. We saw

718
00:38:53,640 --> 00:38:56,359
Speaker 1: a ton of bucks with those pinned down and they

719
00:38:56,400 --> 00:38:59,280
Speaker 1: just weren't moving. So that made it a little tough

720
00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:01,799
Speaker 1: be at the tail end of that rut. You know,

721
00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:04,399
Speaker 1: some of the younger ones were still cruising around, um,

722
00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:06,319
Speaker 1: not really knowing what they're doing, trying to pick up

723
00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:11,120
Speaker 1: a dough, but those bigger bucks were definitely locked down hard. So, um,

724
00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:14,840
Speaker 1: was were you hunting near food or near bedding or

725
00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:17,319
Speaker 1: kind of you try different things there? What was the

726
00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:20,560
Speaker 1: what were having the most success? Yeah, so you know,

727
00:39:20,680 --> 00:39:22,439
Speaker 1: kind of right away at the beginning of the week,

728
00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:24,480
Speaker 1: just based off of what you know, a few other

729
00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:27,680
Speaker 1: guys were that were there saw leading up to that,

730
00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:31,480
Speaker 1: we're in those transition areas hard because those bucks were

731
00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:34,879
Speaker 1: still cruising and moving. Um. And then as we kind

732
00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:38,200
Speaker 1: of you know, saw the more mature deers start to

733
00:39:38,239 --> 00:39:41,240
Speaker 1: lock down and pindos down, we moved in tight to betting.

734
00:39:41,600 --> 00:39:44,040
Speaker 1: I mean, our our plan basically the rest of the

735
00:39:44,080 --> 00:39:46,440
Speaker 1: week was get as close to dough betting as we

736
00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:48,759
Speaker 1: possibly could, as close to the thick stuff as we

737
00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:51,920
Speaker 1: possibly could, um, because really, you know, the way they

738
00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:55,320
Speaker 1: were acting and moving, your best bet was you almost

739
00:39:55,320 --> 00:39:57,160
Speaker 1: had to get set up within a hundred yards of

740
00:39:57,160 --> 00:40:00,640
Speaker 1: them because they weren't moving much more than that. So

741
00:40:01,120 --> 00:40:03,080
Speaker 1: kind of looking forward here, the south is about to

742
00:40:03,080 --> 00:40:06,000
Speaker 1: experience a pretty good cold front, um. But I know

743
00:40:06,040 --> 00:40:07,880
Speaker 1: it's kind of tailing off on the rut there. So

744
00:40:07,920 --> 00:40:11,360
Speaker 1: do you think that the weather has much effect on

745
00:40:11,400 --> 00:40:13,239
Speaker 1: that rut movement? Do you think it would still be

746
00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:16,839
Speaker 1: rocking and rolling down there if it's gonna be cold? Yeah,

747
00:40:16,840 --> 00:40:20,239
Speaker 1: I mean, based off of of what I saw, and

748
00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:23,520
Speaker 1: you know, mind you this is we were in Mississippi,

749
00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:27,320
Speaker 1: you know, basically just south of the Tennessee border, Um,

750
00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:29,640
Speaker 1: I think what you're gonna see in this next week

751
00:40:29,960 --> 00:40:32,560
Speaker 1: is you're gonna see a lot of deer move back

752
00:40:32,600 --> 00:40:35,600
Speaker 1: to kind of post rout feeding patterns. I think you're

753
00:40:35,600 --> 00:40:38,319
Speaker 1: gonna have the straggler, you know, dough or two that's

754
00:40:38,360 --> 00:40:41,520
Speaker 1: still hot and still getting pursued. But I think that

755
00:40:41,640 --> 00:40:44,800
Speaker 1: cold front is gonna help the movement on all fronts

756
00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:47,440
Speaker 1: right in both of those scenarios. So, man, if I

757
00:40:47,480 --> 00:40:49,319
Speaker 1: had another week to be there, what I would be

758
00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:52,000
Speaker 1: doing is I'd be getting close to food because that's

759
00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:53,759
Speaker 1: where the does are going to be. I think, you know,

760
00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:56,360
Speaker 1: those bucks haven't really eight or laid down much of

761
00:40:56,400 --> 00:40:58,720
Speaker 1: the last three weeks, so they're gonna start hitting food

762
00:40:58,719 --> 00:41:01,960
Speaker 1: again and think we um if they are still looking

763
00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:04,000
Speaker 1: for that you know, that last hot door or two,

764
00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:06,120
Speaker 1: I think those bucks are gonna start to really congregate

765
00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:09,040
Speaker 1: around the areas does are spending time. Yeah. Yeah, man,

766
00:41:09,080 --> 00:41:13,200
Speaker 1: good stuff there. Um, If you had to guess and

767
00:41:13,320 --> 00:41:16,160
Speaker 1: or take or take a shot at ranking buck movement

768
00:41:16,239 --> 00:41:18,719
Speaker 1: from a scale of one to ten in the next

769
00:41:18,760 --> 00:41:21,880
Speaker 1: week with cold TIMPs coming in based off of what

770
00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:24,439
Speaker 1: you saw last week to what would you rate that

771
00:41:25,040 --> 00:41:28,920
Speaker 1: as being Man, I think it's gonna be good. Um,

772
00:41:28,960 --> 00:41:32,000
Speaker 1: you know, we had or they had obviously they were

773
00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:33,480
Speaker 1: on a ton of trail cams and I had the

774
00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:36,279
Speaker 1: opportunity to see actually a few of the bucks that

775
00:41:36,360 --> 00:41:39,680
Speaker 1: were taken last week, um, you know, photos from weeks before,

776
00:41:40,280 --> 00:41:42,399
Speaker 1: and I would say it was pretty obvious a lot

777
00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:44,680
Speaker 1: of those deer had lost you know, thirty to forty

778
00:41:44,680 --> 00:41:47,399
Speaker 1: pounds over the course the last three weeks, just running hard.

779
00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:50,560
Speaker 1: So I think with that being said, um, you know,

780
00:41:50,640 --> 00:41:54,040
Speaker 1: the stage of the Rutte's in that cold front, all

781
00:41:54,080 --> 00:41:56,759
Speaker 1: those things are gonna lead to bucks are gonna be

782
00:41:56,840 --> 00:41:58,600
Speaker 1: one to eat, and they're gonna want to eat a lot.

783
00:41:58,719 --> 00:42:00,920
Speaker 1: So I think you're gonna see a lot of daylight

784
00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:03,640
Speaker 1: movement around food sources. Um, but I think you'd be

785
00:42:03,840 --> 00:42:06,279
Speaker 1: you know, pretty good. I'd probably have to say, you know,

786
00:42:06,360 --> 00:42:09,279
Speaker 1: somewhere in that maybe seven to eight range would be

787
00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:12,080
Speaker 1: my guests in terms of what they're going to be doing. Man,

788
00:42:12,120 --> 00:42:15,520
Speaker 1: that's pretty good. That'll uh, that'll fire some Mississippi hunters.

789
00:42:16,040 --> 00:42:20,120
Speaker 1: Let's go. Man, if I could, i'd be back there

790
00:42:20,200 --> 00:42:21,840
Speaker 1: right now and sort of sitting back at the computer.

791
00:42:21,880 --> 00:42:25,759
Speaker 1: I'll tell you that. Well, it's uh, it's weird how

792
00:42:26,120 --> 00:42:27,840
Speaker 1: we have to work to pay for this thing that

793
00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:31,200
Speaker 1: we love doing. Man. But um, I understand it, and

794
00:42:31,520 --> 00:42:35,080
Speaker 1: I appreciate your advice here man, and the thoughts on Mississippi,

795
00:42:35,080 --> 00:42:38,640
Speaker 1: and um, I hope you have a merry Christmas. Man. Yeah,

796
00:42:38,680 --> 00:42:40,200
Speaker 1: you guys as well. I know you guys are still

797
00:42:40,200 --> 00:42:42,080
Speaker 1: out there grinding, so good luck with the rest of

798
00:42:42,160 --> 00:42:45,719
Speaker 1: your season. Hope you can notch another notch another tag.

799
00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:47,640
Speaker 1: You guys have had a heck of a year or so. Um,

800
00:42:47,640 --> 00:42:49,640
Speaker 1: congrats on that. And if I don't talk to you before,

801
00:42:49,640 --> 00:42:53,680
Speaker 1: I have a great holidays. Awesome man. Thanks Greg. I

802
00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:56,760
Speaker 1: want to tell y'all how much we appreciate you tuning

803
00:42:56,800 --> 00:42:59,560
Speaker 1: into Refresh Radio this season. It's been a blast and

804
00:42:59,719 --> 00:43:02,160
Speaker 1: talked hunters from around the country and I hope you've

805
00:43:02,200 --> 00:43:06,239
Speaker 1: had fun and learned a lot about hunting whitetail all

806
00:43:06,280 --> 00:43:08,640
Speaker 1: over this place. So a couple of things for you

807
00:43:08,680 --> 00:43:11,080
Speaker 1: to keep in mind or to check out as we

808
00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:14,279
Speaker 1: close this thing out. Okay, be sure and subscribe to

809
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810
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811
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812
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813
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814
00:43:29,560 --> 00:43:32,120
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815
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816
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817
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818
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820
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821
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