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Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio.

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Speaker 2: Hello, everybody, welcome in. It is Fox Sports Saturday here

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Speaker 2: on Fox Sports Radio. His name is Arnie Spanier. In

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Speaker 2: for Aaron Torres, who has the weekend off, I am

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Speaker 2: Jason Martin. You can find him at Stinking Genius one.

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Speaker 2: Is that writers? It just stinking genius.

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Speaker 3: Steink and Genius one. And you could thank our producer

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Speaker 3: for me being here today.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I'm glad that you're here. I'm glad that we

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Speaker 2: don't have to deal with Stinking Genius two or three

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Speaker 2: or four or five years.

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Speaker 3: Well, I wasn't gonna be here, but my producer of

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Speaker 3: eight years, Ryan Burschinger, didn't invite me to his wedding

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Speaker 3: this weekend, so I had some free time, so I

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Speaker 3: figure I might as well fill in, Like, can you

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Speaker 3: believe why not invite me at least get the free present.

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Speaker 3: But he was too afraid I'd show up into his wedding,

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Speaker 3: so he said forget about it.

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Speaker 2: Well, congrats to Bersh. You know he's been my producer

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Speaker 2: in the past as well. Just an awesome guy, so

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Speaker 2: a great time for him. Certainly, you can follow me

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Speaker 2: at j mart Radio if you want. We would be

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Speaker 2: remiss before jumping into what's hopefully going to be a

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Speaker 2: nice escape talking about things that ultimately don't matter a

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Speaker 2: whole heck of a lot to just say that, you know,

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Speaker 2: what's happening in the world is happening in the world,

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Speaker 2: and we are certainly cognizant of what's taking place tonight,

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Speaker 2: and I can speak it's certainly for myself and say

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Speaker 2: that I'm My prayers are with those that are overseas

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Speaker 2: right now and those that have families that are overseas

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Speaker 2: right now, and certainly, just may God be overall that's

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Speaker 2: going on right now. Again, we are going to try

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Speaker 2: and take you somewhere else over the next three hours

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Speaker 2: and talk about sports and talk about some fun stuff,

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Speaker 2: but certainly it's it's I've been watching for the last

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Speaker 2: couple of hours, as have probably most of the people

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Speaker 2: listening tonight, So it's good to it's good to be

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Speaker 2: here now. And you know, I was thinking I was

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Speaker 2: just going to be all thinking games all night long,

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Speaker 2: and then you know, Game seven got kind of put

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Speaker 2: back into its proper location. But now we can go

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Speaker 2: right back to it and talk about it, because it

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Speaker 2: is going to be a really special thing that happens

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Speaker 2: tomorrow night for only the fourth time in three decades,

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Speaker 2: and this one's gonna be hard for me as a thunderfan.

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Speaker 2: I have skin in this Game seven. I haven't had

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Speaker 2: skin in a Game seven in a while. The last

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Speaker 2: one that I can like fully remember at least was

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Speaker 2: the Braves and the Twins, and that's not one that

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Speaker 2: I ever want to remember because that was the great

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Speaker 2: Jack Morris game where they won one to nothing, came

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Speaker 2: back from a three to two deficit, did the Twins

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Speaker 2: to win that World Series back in nineteen ninety. So

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Speaker 2: you know, you go back to all of that. But

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Speaker 2: Game seven's great, man, and this is the NBA Finals,

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Speaker 2: So here we go.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Jason, you know, first of all, as you mentioned,

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Speaker 3: fourth time in the last thirty years, first since twenty sixteen.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but when I.

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Speaker 3: Saw those I like, wait, don't we go to Game

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Speaker 3: seven every year? It seems like there's it just feels like,

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Speaker 3: you know, every series goes far. But I'm excited about it.

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Speaker 3: I'm not.

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Speaker 2: I'm not.

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Speaker 3: Just to back up a little bit, I've not been

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Speaker 3: excited about the series so far. And you know, I've

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Speaker 3: gone back and forth with Chris Plank, who obviously is

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Speaker 3: fully invested because he lives down there in Oklahoma. But

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Speaker 3: as I told Chris, and I'm a basketball snob, you

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Speaker 3: have two small markets. You didn't give me any large markets.

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Speaker 3: You didn't give me that. You aren't right, No, I

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Speaker 3: understand that, And we can go back and forth on that.

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Speaker 3: You didn't give me any villains. You didn't, as far

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Speaker 3: as I'm concerned, give me any real storylines here in

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Speaker 3: the ratings warlow to start things off. I'm curious to

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Speaker 3: see how they'll be for this game seven. And now

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Speaker 3: you've lost me in a little bit of momentum with

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Speaker 3: the three day rest there, which I understand because you

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Speaker 3: have to travel. I think we should go back to

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Speaker 3: in all for the game seven now, but I feel

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Speaker 3: like it's been like a year and a half since

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Speaker 3: we've played Game six. In any momentum that was coming

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Speaker 3: off Game six certainly is not gonna show up for

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Speaker 3: a Game seven, that's for sure.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, although this series has been one where the momentum

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Speaker 2: has been hard to kind of spot, that's true, right,

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Speaker 2: because it really hasn't mattered from game to game the

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Speaker 2: way that it's the way that it's played out. And look,

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Speaker 2: and you say this anytime you get to a game seven.

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Speaker 2: The reason why you play the regular season hard, the

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Speaker 2: so and you hope it doesn't get to this, but

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Speaker 2: if it gets to a game seven, it's in your gym.

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Speaker 2: And that's what Oklahoma City does have in their favor. However,

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Speaker 2: the Pacers have made a real habit, especially this year,

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Speaker 2: but even over the last couple of years, of doing

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Speaker 2: the things that no one thinks they can do, not

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Speaker 2: even the idea that they shouldn't do it, because I

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Speaker 2: think that's kind of a ridiculous point, but no one

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Speaker 2: continually do. I would say that I am not particularly

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Speaker 2: comfortable right now because that's the one team and when

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Speaker 2: you get to game seven, all bets are off too,

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Speaker 2: Like it's at that point it's it's a winner take all.

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Speaker 2: It's one night, maybe they shoot the lights out and

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Speaker 2: your guys don't, and then it doesn't matter.

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Speaker 3: In the game numbers, team does well do you have

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Speaker 3: game seven numbers?

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Speaker 2: What do they win?

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Speaker 3: Like seventy five percent of the time or something like that.

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Speaker 2: Something. Yeah they do well. Yeah, I mean it's they

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Speaker 2: should win, right because it's their role players. Like the

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Speaker 2: reason why you want it in your gym is because

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Speaker 2: it sounds. It sounds crazy, but the lighting you're familiar

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Speaker 2: more comfortable. There's something like you go on vacation, You're

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Speaker 2: in this great hotel, but there is this feeling of man,

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Speaker 2: my own bed, and that's kind of how it feels

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Speaker 2: going back to your place. The Pacers have won on

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Speaker 2: the road in New York, they've won on the road

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Speaker 2: in Oklahoma City. They did what they did to open

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Speaker 2: this postseason of course as well, so they're not going

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Speaker 2: to be intimidated here. The question is are their role

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Speaker 2: players going to show up on the road, because that's

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Speaker 2: up every single night. They're the ones that make the

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Speaker 2: shots at home, and I think that's the biggest thing.

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Speaker 2: And of course the crowd gets into it as well,

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Speaker 2: like you Thunder get out to a big lead and

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Speaker 2: the crowd is drowning out, and Rick Carlisle can't hear

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Speaker 2: himself think that could be a long night for the Pacers.

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Speaker 3: Let me ask you a question, when is the ideal

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Speaker 3: day and time of the game as a fan and

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Speaker 3: as a money maker for the NBA? Obviously Sunday. I

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Speaker 3: thought Sunday afternoon would be the best time to air

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Speaker 3: an NBA game number seven. It would get you the

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Speaker 3: highest ratings and certainly bring in the most eyes if

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Speaker 3: it was earlier. Now you're putting it a little bit late.

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Speaker 3: As for just being a fan, I would have loved

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Speaker 3: for it to been tonight, you know, Saturday night, eight

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Speaker 3: o'clock eastern, eight thirty eastern. Everybody's up late, it's a weekend,

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Speaker 3: and you know, you get to enjoy it. I think

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Speaker 3: it would have been fun, more fun for the fans

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Speaker 3: to have it tonight. But I understand why they have

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Speaker 3: it Sunday, Sunday night. I didn't know that's better ratings

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Speaker 2: You know. Yeah, so I think from a TV perspective, right, yeah,

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Speaker 2: especially because of when the NBA Finals are played, we're

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Speaker 2: in summertime right right, Saturday evening is a harder that's

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Speaker 2: a harder sell because a lot of people are out,

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Speaker 2: a lot of that's the day that you're on vacation.

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Speaker 2: If you're coming back, you're gonna come back on Sunday.

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Speaker 2: You're not going to come back on Saturday. Sure, maybe

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Speaker 2: you have games in the evenings yourself. There's just a

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Speaker 2: lot of different attention that's that's happening that maybe draws

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Speaker 2: an interesting argument, but again, Sunday's kind it's a different day.

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Speaker 2: I guess maybe I've just gotten used to the fact

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Speaker 2: that it's been on Sunday night.

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Speaker 3: You just have a lot of Sunday early Sunday one o'clock.

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Speaker 2: Well, I remember, like I do remember some big time

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Speaker 2: games like that the famous Lakers Kings game. Was it

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Speaker 2: like four in the afternoon on the East Coast or

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Speaker 2: something like that. But I think generally, like just from

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Speaker 2: a reason why you had them there. It's because movies

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Speaker 2: in order to make that even more beneficial, television networks

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Speaker 2: for the ad dollars. Oh you want people to see

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Speaker 2: your Batman trailer, It's going to cost you. And so

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Speaker 2: Thursday was a big time night. Sunday night became a

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Speaker 2: big time night because of I would argue because of

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Speaker 2: the Sopranos, but I mean there's been a lot of things,

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Speaker 2: but I think the Sopranos kind of changed it around.

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Speaker 2: I mean, yes, for a long time, you had murder

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Speaker 2: she wrote, and you had You've still got sixty minutes.

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Speaker 3: Though if we went back to the two three two,

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Speaker 3: we wouldn't be having all these extra days off. Then

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Speaker 3: we'd have to adjust it and we wouldn't have a

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Speaker 3: Game seven on the Sunday.

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Speaker 2: Well yeah, I mean you could do it that way,

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Speaker 2: but there have even been I mean the NBA is weird.

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Speaker 2: They still take the extra day sometimes, especially in the

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Speaker 2: early rounds of the playoffs. I'm with you. I mean

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Speaker 2: I would like it to be a little bit tighter

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Speaker 2: in how it is all done, not because I need

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Speaker 2: it over faster, but because it does. There's this story

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Speaker 2: that's told within a playoff series, and when there's so

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Speaker 2: much time between it, it's like it can be out

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Speaker 2: find my way back into it. Where if this had

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Speaker 2: been Thursday and we were sitting here right now and

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Speaker 2: this game had just ended or it was about to end,

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Speaker 2: you know, I feel like it would it would feel

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Speaker 2: like this whole thing has sort of happened, not quickly,

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Speaker 2: but you had just enough time to excel on Friday

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Speaker 3: So I think at that extra day arrest too, Hali

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Speaker 3: Burton can certainly yes the extra day, so everybody's a

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Speaker 3: little bit healthier, which is what you want when it's

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Speaker 3: all said and done.

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Speaker 2: Though, yeah, that's one hundred percent tru So I mean

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Speaker 2: there's there's there's reasons both ways, and I think ultimately

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Speaker 2: you want everybody as healthy as possible. In a game seven. Absolutely, Like,

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Speaker 2: I mean, we got the draft of course coming up,

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Speaker 3: For the first It doesn't matter all of a sudden

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Speaker 2: In the world, you know, yes, exactly, So we will

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Speaker 3: But first, that was a shocker.

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Speaker 5: Wow?

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Speaker 6: Hello Joe, happy to hear Alredye, Spin, you're here now.

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Speaker 6: You're still in your regular slot tomorrow night.

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Speaker 5: Are you not?

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Speaker 3: Yes?

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Speaker 2: I am.

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Speaker 3: I'm the feeling able to That's all I have.

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Speaker 2: I have seen on the schedule.

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Speaker 6: You're supposed to be filling in Friday night in this

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Speaker 2: You know what happens after you guys get off the air. No,

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Speaker 2: I'm in for playing.

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Speaker 6: Yes, maybe the NBA Finals will be over by.

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Speaker 2: Then, mate, Maybe not certain of that.

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Speaker 6: That Game seven is Sunday, Indiana and Oklahoma City, and

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Speaker 6: you mentioned it. Overall, the home team and a Finals

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Speaker 6: Game seven is fifteen and four. The thunder at home

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Speaker 6: LSU a one nothing winner against Coastal Carolina had won

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Speaker 3: and they asked them about it many years later, many

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00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:25,320
Speaker 3: years and he goes, I wouldn't have missed it for

436
00:21:25,359 --> 00:21:27,960
Speaker 3: the world, but I wouldn't want to do it again. So,

437
00:21:28,560 --> 00:21:31,240
Speaker 3: you know, kind of kind of bittersweet, I guess is

438
00:21:31,280 --> 00:21:31,920
Speaker 3: what he was saying.

439
00:21:31,960 --> 00:21:34,480
Speaker 2: Would Well, look, you're still a major league ball player. True,

440
00:21:34,880 --> 00:21:36,840
Speaker 2: I mean, you're still living a pretty charm life when

441
00:21:36,880 --> 00:21:38,640
Speaker 2: it comes to that side of things, and maybe you're

442
00:21:38,640 --> 00:21:40,760
Speaker 2: still having fun and maybe at some point you're just

443
00:21:40,840 --> 00:21:44,800
Speaker 2: laughing about it closed doors, Like at some point it's like, yeah,

444
00:21:44,800 --> 00:21:52,080
Speaker 2: we understand cards. Yeah, yeah, exactly right. So I don't

445
00:21:52,080 --> 00:21:53,520
Speaker 2: know if we've got Mark yet or not, but.

446
00:21:54,240 --> 00:21:56,000
Speaker 3: You know, I have a story about the Lakers story

447
00:21:56,000 --> 00:21:59,160
Speaker 3: real quick, since we don't have Mark. The story that

448
00:21:59,400 --> 00:22:01,159
Speaker 3: a lot of people may not know because I went

449
00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:02,680
Speaker 3: to school with Genie. I don't know if I ever

450
00:22:02,720 --> 00:22:06,520
Speaker 3: told you this story. I went to Pacific Palisades High

451
00:22:06,560 --> 00:22:09,560
Speaker 3: School and I was sitting with my basketball coach and

452
00:22:09,640 --> 00:22:12,520
Speaker 3: it was just him and I talking, and Genie actually

453
00:22:12,600 --> 00:22:16,520
Speaker 3: walked by, and they didn't own the Lakers.

454
00:22:16,160 --> 00:22:16,600
Speaker 2: At the time.

455
00:22:16,760 --> 00:22:20,000
Speaker 3: Genie was just Genie to me, and the coach said

456
00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:23,240
Speaker 3: to Genie, hey, did your dad buy the Indiana Pacers?

457
00:22:23,760 --> 00:22:26,720
Speaker 3: And I'm listening to this, I go what and she goes, no,

458
00:22:27,080 --> 00:22:29,680
Speaker 3: he's actually saving his money for the Lakers. And that's

459
00:22:29,720 --> 00:22:32,520
Speaker 3: where they go, who's your dad, Genie, that's gonna go

460
00:22:32,560 --> 00:22:35,800
Speaker 3: buy the Lakers? So you know, I was kind of razziger,

461
00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:39,919
Speaker 3: But his first one was he wanted to buy the Pacers.

462
00:22:39,400 --> 00:22:42,399
Speaker 3: That was his first thought. That was the one that

463
00:22:42,480 --> 00:22:45,320
Speaker 3: he could have bought, but backed off from it and

464
00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:49,040
Speaker 3: decided to buy the Lakers. From what I understand, they

465
00:22:49,040 --> 00:22:51,840
Speaker 3: were going to deny the sale. The other owners were

466
00:22:51,880 --> 00:22:54,760
Speaker 3: going to deny the sale to the Lakers. They were

467
00:22:54,800 --> 00:22:57,680
Speaker 3: afraid doctor Buss didn't have enough money. He only bought

468
00:22:57,680 --> 00:23:00,840
Speaker 3: the Lakers for like sixty seven million dollar or something

469
00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:03,159
Speaker 3: to that effect. Do you know who stepped up and

470
00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:06,760
Speaker 3: talked out his behalf was none other than Donald Sterling.

471
00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:10,280
Speaker 3: Interesting and Mark jordian is, but Donald Sterling is the

472
00:23:10,280 --> 00:23:13,160
Speaker 3: one that said, hey, if he doesn't make good on anything,

473
00:23:13,680 --> 00:23:16,160
Speaker 3: I'll cover him. And they made the thing go through.

474
00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:17,119
Speaker 3: So that's why he got it.

475
00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:20,920
Speaker 2: So we bring in our MBA insider, Mark Medena. Mark,

476
00:23:20,960 --> 00:23:25,520
Speaker 2: any truth to the rumor that you actually offered nine

477
00:23:25,640 --> 00:23:29,280
Speaker 2: bill and you were almost to the finish line with

478
00:23:29,359 --> 00:23:31,399
Speaker 2: that thing until that group rolled in with the extra

479
00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:33,480
Speaker 2: mill and or the extra bill rather, and you just

480
00:23:33,480 --> 00:23:34,639
Speaker 2: couldn't quite handle.

481
00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:37,640
Speaker 5: It, you know what, I can either confirm nor deny it.

482
00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:43,199
Speaker 2: So so obviously one of the boar of governors is

483
00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:45,800
Speaker 2: up for a vote with it. Yeah, so we're gonna

484
00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:48,200
Speaker 2: talk about the finals, but obviously, honestly, the biggest story

485
00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:50,280
Speaker 2: of the week was that Lakers sale. And I told

486
00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:51,680
Speaker 2: Arnie I was just like, look, I live on the

487
00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:54,000
Speaker 2: East Coast. I've only visited the West Coast a couple

488
00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:57,240
Speaker 2: of times in my life. Tell me how big this is.

489
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Speaker 2: Tell me your thoughts on this as somebody that has

490
00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:02,159
Speaker 2: covered and watched this team. So I'll ask you the

491
00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:05,040
Speaker 2: same question, Mark, tell me your thoughts as you saw

492
00:24:05,080 --> 00:24:07,280
Speaker 2: this go down and what this means.

493
00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:09,920
Speaker 5: Well, to your point, yes, it is the biggest story

494
00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:12,720
Speaker 5: in the NBA because it's the Lakers, because there's so

495
00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:15,639
Speaker 5: much you know, long term impact on what this means.

496
00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:19,560
Speaker 5: And also it's a very interesting twist with the bus

497
00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:23,760
Speaker 5: family because the Bus family and Jeanie Bus Note most notably,

498
00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:26,680
Speaker 5: was always adamant that this is always going to say

499
00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:28,720
Speaker 5: in the family, they weren't going to sell. I remember

500
00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:32,280
Speaker 5: staying in her office in twenty fifteen, as the Lakers

501
00:24:32,280 --> 00:24:35,359
Speaker 5: were going through you know, their worst stretching franchise history,

502
00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:39,000
Speaker 5: Miss Flotoffs appearances, kulbe Brian's going through injuries, They're going

503
00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:42,400
Speaker 5: through coaching changes, They're going through you know, front office

504
00:24:42,520 --> 00:24:46,240
Speaker 5: dynamics and disagreements with you know, she and her brother Jim,

505
00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:49,160
Speaker 5: and you know, I asked her point blank if there's

506
00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:52,840
Speaker 5: any scenario where the family would sell, and she mentioned,

507
00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:57,800
Speaker 5: you know, her late dad, Jerry Buss to explain why

508
00:24:57,840 --> 00:25:00,520
Speaker 5: the reason would be no, And she said, he worked

509
00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:02,240
Speaker 5: very hard to be in this position so that our

510
00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:05,720
Speaker 5: family could keep this team forever. We're committed to doing

511
00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:08,840
Speaker 5: that now, as we've learned nothing in life lasts forever.

512
00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:12,800
Speaker 5: But ten years later, there's so much that has changed

513
00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:17,399
Speaker 5: that dynamic. You know, Philip Danshutz sold his twenty seven

514
00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:21,040
Speaker 5: percent share to Mark Walter in twenty twenty one. That

515
00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:25,320
Speaker 5: kind of put him inside to maneuver. He has a

516
00:25:25,320 --> 00:25:29,240
Speaker 5: relationship with Jenie Buss already, so there's a familiarity trust.

517
00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:33,800
Speaker 5: The Bus family sees how lucrative, you know, teams like

518
00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:37,720
Speaker 5: the Dallas Mavericks and the Boston Celics are getting and

519
00:25:37,760 --> 00:25:39,880
Speaker 5: so they know that it's going to be worth even

520
00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:43,199
Speaker 5: more because the Lakers they get Luka Doncic in this

521
00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:46,080
Speaker 5: trade a few months ago. And then I think the

522
00:25:46,119 --> 00:25:49,439
Speaker 5: other thing is they're just mindful that now is probably

523
00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:51,480
Speaker 5: the best time to cash out on all these earnings

524
00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:55,000
Speaker 5: because they're the only ones inheriting the money they can't

525
00:25:55,040 --> 00:25:57,600
Speaker 5: pass along to their errors. And number two, so we've

526
00:25:57,640 --> 00:26:01,879
Speaker 5: seen today's NBA as owners get wealthier and wealthier, the

527
00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:05,919
Speaker 5: price that pay takes to run an MBA operation is

528
00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:08,840
Speaker 5: a lot more expensive. And the Bus family, they're not

529
00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:11,520
Speaker 5: crime poverty, but this is their only source of income

530
00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:14,320
Speaker 5: and that's a losing battle, so to speak. Again, some

531
00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:17,080
Speaker 5: of these other owners that have a lot of other

532
00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:20,480
Speaker 5: businesses besides an NBA franchise. So you add up all

533
00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:24,920
Speaker 5: those things together and it completely makes sense why this

534
00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:27,960
Speaker 5: previously unprecedented news actually happened.

535
00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:30,240
Speaker 3: No, you're one hundred percent right on that. Also, you

536
00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:34,280
Speaker 3: ring up the disagreements between Genie and Jimmy. If they

537
00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:38,439
Speaker 3: were more together on the forefront, I mean, more in unity,

538
00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:40,399
Speaker 3: do you think this was still would have happened or

539
00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:44,280
Speaker 3: because they were fighting so much, I'll say it like that,

540
00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:45,800
Speaker 3: that's why the sale went down.

541
00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:47,080
Speaker 7: No.

542
00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:49,200
Speaker 5: I think that's part of their story, but I don't

543
00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:51,560
Speaker 5: think that has anything to do with this here. I mean,

544
00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:54,760
Speaker 5: it went for a majority vote. For what it's worth.

545
00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:58,720
Speaker 5: You know, I've talked to Genie as recently as two

546
00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:02,879
Speaker 5: years ago, and she was very emphatic that they've reconciled.

547
00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:05,840
Speaker 5: I think it was telling that in that Hulu docu

548
00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:09,880
Speaker 5: series about the Lakers that other family members, specifically Jim

549
00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:12,440
Speaker 5: and Johnny, were part of the project, and that in

550
00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:15,520
Speaker 5: of itself kind of symbolized that things have falled. Because

551
00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:19,720
Speaker 5: in twenty seventeen, shortly after Jeanie fired Jim and removed

552
00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:23,560
Speaker 5: him from the front office, they tried to remove her

553
00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:26,439
Speaker 5: as governor and put it up for a vote, and

554
00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:31,919
Speaker 5: she blocked that through a corroler. Obviously that wasn't pretty.

555
00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:35,359
Speaker 5: But as far as family members, they're on speaking terms.

556
00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:38,879
Speaker 5: They've reconciled and things are great on that front. So

557
00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:41,800
Speaker 5: that is part of the history here as far as

558
00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:43,360
Speaker 5: the ups and downs of the franchise, but I don't

559
00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:47,199
Speaker 5: think that necessarily had anything to do with what happened

560
00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:47,680
Speaker 5: this week.

561
00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:53,240
Speaker 2: So another thing that is happening is the NBA Finals

562
00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:56,760
Speaker 2: Game seven. Before we break the game, down. Do you

563
00:27:56,800 --> 00:27:58,960
Speaker 2: think the NBA has blown this in any way when

564
00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:01,720
Speaker 2: it comes to trying to make like it's a Game seven, Yes,

565
00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:05,280
Speaker 2: but it seemed like they were behind on on the logos.

566
00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:07,200
Speaker 2: They've been kind of dogged out for all this stuff,

567
00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:09,359
Speaker 2: and maybe they've been trying to play catch up a little.

568
00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:13,280
Speaker 2: But this this should feel bigger to me than maybe

569
00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:13,720
Speaker 2: it does.

570
00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:17,159
Speaker 5: Yeah, I agree with you. I mean they should have

571
00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:20,680
Speaker 5: already had the logos actually on the court, not transfixed

572
00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:25,040
Speaker 5: on television. It should have required social media pressure to

573
00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:28,159
Speaker 5: do that. There's no way around it. When you have

574
00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:33,119
Speaker 5: traditional dynasties with you know, more established NBA stars, the

575
00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:36,520
Speaker 5: ratings are going to be higher. But I would say

576
00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:39,000
Speaker 5: if you're a basketball fan, it's everything that you've wanted

577
00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:42,280
Speaker 5: as far as quality of play in the series, because

578
00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:45,840
Speaker 5: both teams are very balanced, both have star power. There

579
00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:49,720
Speaker 5: have been some blowouts, technically Game two, Game six. I

580
00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:52,960
Speaker 5: think they're still intrigue because Game two, you know, the

581
00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:55,480
Speaker 5: thunder were coming off the game one upsite, Tyre's Halbert

582
00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:58,440
Speaker 5: and game winner. How they respond. Game six, the Pacers

583
00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:01,000
Speaker 5: throw the thunder out, but that was elimination game. As

584
00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:04,800
Speaker 5: well as questions on Tyres Halburn's health. So I think

585
00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:08,120
Speaker 5: when you go down the line from a pure basketball standpoint,

586
00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:10,760
Speaker 5: this NBA Finals has everything you want. You have that

587
00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:13,200
Speaker 5: game when you show with Tyres, you have, you know,

588
00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:18,080
Speaker 5: some epic clutch play from both star players Sga and Tyree's.

589
00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:21,040
Speaker 5: You have X factor type players, whether it's Tyre's or

590
00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:25,959
Speaker 5: whether it's Pascal Siakam, TJ McConnell, Jay Owen Williams. You know,

591
00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:30,920
Speaker 5: there's a lot of coaching adjustments. There's physicality, there's unpredictable

592
00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:34,360
Speaker 5: nature of what's going to happen game to game. There's

593
00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:36,840
Speaker 5: an injury with an injury with Tyres Alburn and then

594
00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:40,160
Speaker 5: he overcomes it. Those are things you want in NBA Finals,

595
00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:43,719
Speaker 5: but it does lack something important, more familiar stars like

596
00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:47,320
Speaker 5: Lebron James, Steph Curry. But I think the NBA they

597
00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:50,000
Speaker 5: rationalize it this way. They're they're you know, they're eleven

598
00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:53,800
Speaker 5: year I think seventy seven billion dollars deal for TVs

599
00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:57,240
Speaker 5: starting next year, so from bottom line, they're going to

600
00:29:57,280 --> 00:29:59,800
Speaker 5: be okay. But I think that this NBA Finals shows

601
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:03,800
Speaker 5: it's most important. It's not the transactions, it's not the rumors,

602
00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:06,760
Speaker 5: it's not the soap opera. It's the quality of play

603
00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:09,120
Speaker 5: on the court. And I think guys you don't always

604
00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:11,880
Speaker 5: see down in the regular season because of guys seeing

605
00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:14,080
Speaker 5: out there being injuries, as well as just the lack

606
00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:17,520
Speaker 5: of excitement for regular season basketball compared to the playoffs.

607
00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:21,160
Speaker 3: Now the ref I forgot Foster, is he the extender

608
00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:28,480
Speaker 3: or the fixer? I forgot? I'm sorry, Mark, right, he knows.

609
00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:31,800
Speaker 5: How to wear both hats. You know that SGA, that

610
00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:34,840
Speaker 5: SGA push off he got away with. Lou Dort got

611
00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:37,520
Speaker 5: away with a few pushes of his own. I think

612
00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:42,520
Speaker 5: two times against Haliburn. I think in that case, the

613
00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:44,840
Speaker 5: Pacers are up to one, so he would have been

614
00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:47,400
Speaker 5: the extender because the Thunder then tied it.

615
00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:51,400
Speaker 2: Are the Pacers finally getting the credit that they deserve,

616
00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:53,040
Speaker 2: Mark or no.

617
00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:56,760
Speaker 5: Well, if they win a championship even more. But yeah,

618
00:30:56,800 --> 00:30:59,000
Speaker 5: I think that they have shown throughout the series that

619
00:30:59,320 --> 00:31:03,360
Speaker 5: they're not just year because of outside circumstances of you know,

620
00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:08,640
Speaker 5: the Bucks underachieving, the Cleveland Cavaliers underachieving, the Knicks. You know,

621
00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:11,560
Speaker 5: they gets the first Eastern Conference Finals twenty five years,

622
00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:13,960
Speaker 5: but they will at end crunch time. All those things

623
00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:17,160
Speaker 5: came into play. But I think the Pacers got here

624
00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:21,600
Speaker 5: on their own accord. They deserve everything. They've played really well. Yeah,

625
00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:25,280
Speaker 5: they've been inconsistent, tyres Alburton has had you know, mixed

626
00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:30,040
Speaker 5: identities of dominant passer clutch score and then completely wets

627
00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:32,960
Speaker 5: the bed. The Thunder are just a really good team.

628
00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:35,920
Speaker 5: So I think if win or lose, there's going to

629
00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:40,720
Speaker 5: be an appreciation for the Pacers that they've earned what

630
00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:43,000
Speaker 5: they've gotten this year. And it's not just because of

631
00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:45,719
Speaker 5: fluke injuries with all their opponents.

632
00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:48,040
Speaker 3: You know, as far as I'm concerned, if the Pacers

633
00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:50,080
Speaker 3: are gonna win, one person has to have a big game.

634
00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:52,480
Speaker 3: That's got to be Miles Turner. What he's doing now

635
00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:55,360
Speaker 3: is unacceptable. He has a big game, Pacers have a

636
00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:57,160
Speaker 3: chance to win. I know everybody says it's got to

637
00:31:57,200 --> 00:31:59,760
Speaker 3: be Halliburton and all that, but Miles Turner's got to

638
00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:00,840
Speaker 3: put some points there.

639
00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:04,120
Speaker 5: Well, Miles Turner, I agree with you. I mean, there's

640
00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:07,080
Speaker 5: there's got to be X factors, and whether it's Miles Turner,

641
00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:10,920
Speaker 5: Pascal Siakam, TJ McConnell, with Obi Top and all of them,

642
00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:13,360
Speaker 5: any of them are great. But I think to the

643
00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:17,040
Speaker 5: broader point is they're so evenly matched with these games

644
00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:20,720
Speaker 5: have been so competitive that every single thing could determine

645
00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:22,840
Speaker 5: the outcome. If I had to rank it, I think

646
00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:25,320
Speaker 5: it starts with the turnovers. With exception of Game one,

647
00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:28,680
Speaker 5: we've seen that every single game, whoever wins the turnover

648
00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:32,040
Speaker 5: battle wins the game. I think inevitably it then trickles

649
00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:34,720
Speaker 5: down to the star player. But I think especially in

650
00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:39,160
Speaker 5: the Game seven Guys, where the tensions high, you expect

651
00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:41,840
Speaker 5: that guys aren't going to shoot the ball necessarily well,

652
00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:45,240
Speaker 5: So I think it then comes down to who's making

653
00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:48,800
Speaker 5: the hostile plays the intangibles, and Miles Turner's part of

654
00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:51,760
Speaker 5: that because he's, you know, a very important part of

655
00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:54,360
Speaker 5: you know, giving some good rim protection and trying to

656
00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:57,080
Speaker 5: slow down check Holmbern and Isaiah Hartenstein.

657
00:32:58,160 --> 00:33:01,920
Speaker 2: So who wins It's a good question.

658
00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:03,880
Speaker 5: You can flip the coin either way. I give it

659
00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:06,360
Speaker 5: to the Thunder. They're the higher seeded team, they got

660
00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:09,440
Speaker 5: the home floor, the crowd in Oklahoma or City is

661
00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:12,800
Speaker 5: really great. They do have an eighteen and two record

662
00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:16,239
Speaker 5: after a loss, and that includes that Game seven win

663
00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:18,960
Speaker 5: against the Nuggets. I know it's a different comparison because

664
00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:20,800
Speaker 5: the Nuggets where were they were? But that was a

665
00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:24,240
Speaker 5: great formula. Shay had a thirty five point game. Joe

666
00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:26,600
Speaker 5: and Williams shot really well. They had a lot of

667
00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:30,479
Speaker 5: good bench play, they forced turnovers, they played great defense.

668
00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:33,040
Speaker 5: I mean, I think the thing is all these categories

669
00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:36,560
Speaker 5: are probably obvious, but that shows just how evenly matched

670
00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:39,360
Speaker 5: this series is and how unpredictable it is. We've got

671
00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:41,680
Speaker 5: to the point we know what he needs to do.

672
00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:45,840
Speaker 5: It's now a matter of who's healthiest, like Tyree's most,

673
00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:49,160
Speaker 5: notably with his calf, but also who's able to execute

674
00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:52,280
Speaker 5: all those different variables because we don't know which variable

675
00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:54,440
Speaker 5: is going to stay out the most. But because of

676
00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:57,840
Speaker 5: how tight this series has been, you can make the

677
00:33:57,960 --> 00:34:00,960
Speaker 5: argument that everything's going to matter because it could come

678
00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:02,280
Speaker 5: down to a few possessions.

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00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:04,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, so do you feel like it is going to

680
00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:05,080
Speaker 2: be close either way?

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00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:10,120
Speaker 5: You know that's the thing. Any outcome I'm not going

682
00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:12,200
Speaker 5: to be surprised with. I could see it be close

683
00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:15,080
Speaker 5: either way. I could see the Thunder kind of give

684
00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:17,600
Speaker 5: the Pacers their own medicine the same way the Pacers

685
00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:20,040
Speaker 5: did to the Thunder. I could see it being close,

686
00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:22,560
Speaker 5: like in the first half and then the thunder kind

687
00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:26,719
Speaker 5: of breakaway in the second. I tend to think that's

688
00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:28,320
Speaker 5: what's going to happen. It's going to be a highly

689
00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:30,840
Speaker 5: contested first half. Everyone's going to give their best shot.

690
00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:32,960
Speaker 5: I don't think it's going to be much of an

691
00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:36,800
Speaker 5: offensive clinic because the game's so tight, there's so much pressure,

692
00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:38,920
Speaker 5: but there's going to be so much drama and effort.

693
00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:41,120
Speaker 5: But I think by the second half you're going to

694
00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:43,640
Speaker 5: see Shaye bring his game to another level as well

695
00:34:43,640 --> 00:34:47,399
Speaker 5: as just their overall depth and after at that point,

696
00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:50,040
Speaker 5: it just becomes too insurmountable. But you know what, guys,

697
00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:52,640
Speaker 5: That's what I'm going to think. But at the same time,

698
00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:55,920
Speaker 5: the Pacers have shown you dismiss them at your own peril.

699
00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:59,799
Speaker 5: They're the comeback things. They're very resilient, So who knows.

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00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:01,719
Speaker 5: I'm glad I'm not paying this game, so I'm sure

701
00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:02,719
Speaker 5: i'd lose money on it.

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Speaker 2: Mar I appreciate your brother.

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00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:07,360
Speaker 5: You have the best right back at you. Guys always

704
00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:09,440
Speaker 5: want talking MBA appreciate it.

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Speaker 2: That is Mark Madeena follow him on X by the

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Speaker 2: way at Mark g underscore Medina. We'll come back. We'll

707
00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:20,200
Speaker 2: reset some of our conversation with Mark Medena and weird question.

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Speaker 2: Is Aaron Rodgers married or not? That's next. He's Arny

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00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:27,280
Speaker 2: spend here, Jason Martin, this is Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: Second time I've heard this song today.

712
00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:41,120
Speaker 3: You know this one, Arnie, It's been around a long time.

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00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:43,160
Speaker 2: My friend, who is it?

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Speaker 3: I can't remember off the top of my head.

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00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:49,959
Speaker 2: Brian Adams there it is, Brian Summer sixty on heard

716
00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:52,200
Speaker 2: it during the workout earlier. Now I'm hearing it here.

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Speaker 2: If you were hearing us in the last segment, you

718
00:35:55,040 --> 00:35:58,840
Speaker 2: heard a good pal. Mark Medina, NBA, inside or sports Keta.

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00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:05,279
Speaker 2: He's been everywhere. Man. He picked the Thunder. But and

720
00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:08,040
Speaker 2: he said no this part. I totally agree with no

721
00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:11,480
Speaker 2: outcome at this point, which surprised me because I.

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00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:12,439
Speaker 3: Like Oklahoma City.

723
00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:12,840
Speaker 2: I like that.

724
00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:15,040
Speaker 3: You know, I was teasing Plank. I said that when

725
00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:16,960
Speaker 3: the series started, I said, if I call them the

726
00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:20,319
Speaker 3: Oklahoma City Sooners, nobody would know the difference. They would

727
00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:23,560
Speaker 3: have no idea that their nickname was the Thunder. That's

728
00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:24,680
Speaker 3: how small market is.

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00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:26,960
Speaker 2: It's interesting you work with him regularly. He's a thunderfan.

730
00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:29,040
Speaker 2: Now you're working with me. I'm a thunderfan.

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00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:33,320
Speaker 3: He said, that's disrespectful, saying that so disrespectful.

732
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not quitting the Sooners. It's just disrespectful. It's

733
00:36:38,120 --> 00:36:43,319
Speaker 2: disrespectful to anyone else. So anything else that Medina said

734
00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:46,799
Speaker 2: strike you. The question I asked about the Pacers and

735
00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:50,520
Speaker 2: getting respect. Do you feel like they're being taken seriously yet?

736
00:36:50,680 --> 00:36:54,080
Speaker 3: Or Yeah, you've getten this far. You've gotten this far

737
00:36:54,160 --> 00:36:56,840
Speaker 3: and you're one game away, and you've been an underdog.

738
00:36:56,880 --> 00:36:58,799
Speaker 3: You were an underdog in the Knick series. You've been

739
00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:01,680
Speaker 3: an underdog in all this series. You were a six seed.

740
00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:04,920
Speaker 3: Now you're a game seven winner. Take all. Look, they're

741
00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:06,880
Speaker 3: a six and a half point underdog in this game.

742
00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:10,280
Speaker 3: I like Oklahoma City, but I agree with Mark. Anything

743
00:37:10,360 --> 00:37:13,200
Speaker 3: goes into game seven. You never know who gets hot.

744
00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:17,239
Speaker 3: You know, if Indiana is hitting their three pointers, watch out.

745
00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:19,840
Speaker 3: Then all of a sudden, it's a whole different story.

746
00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:21,720
Speaker 3: You're right about that. They got to take the crowd

747
00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:24,200
Speaker 3: out of it early. Don't let them get all you know,

748
00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:28,439
Speaker 3: loud and you know, getting crazy. If the game's close

749
00:37:28,520 --> 00:37:30,840
Speaker 3: to halftime, they've got a chance to go ahead and

750
00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:31,720
Speaker 3: pull off the upset.

751
00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:34,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, so, and we've seen the Pacers come back, well

752
00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:37,560
Speaker 2: you know what they did to the Knicks in Game one,

753
00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:40,080
Speaker 2: for instance. But I mean, we've seen big comebacks from

754
00:37:40,080 --> 00:37:42,719
Speaker 2: both these teams at different times during this postseason.

755
00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:45,360
Speaker 3: So why do we see more comebacks like that? I

756
00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:46,360
Speaker 3: mean they said it was.

757
00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:49,640
Speaker 2: Like the balls won. I like the three balls won.

758
00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:54,239
Speaker 2: There's so many threes being shot that you have a

759
00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:56,240
Speaker 2: better chance to get back into a game, or another

760
00:37:56,239 --> 00:37:58,520
Speaker 2: team gets complacent and they just keep taking a bunch

761
00:37:58,560 --> 00:38:01,680
Speaker 2: of threes, miss them come up empty because the shot

762
00:38:01,719 --> 00:38:03,600
Speaker 2: percentage is so much lower, and then you come on

763
00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:05,480
Speaker 2: the end and ship away. Maybe they have some bad

764
00:38:05,560 --> 00:38:08,480
Speaker 2: vowels or somebody gets into trouble, But I do think

765
00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:11,200
Speaker 2: the three ball and the distance that guys are willing

766
00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:15,360
Speaker 2: to shoot from changes some of that at least a

767
00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:19,200
Speaker 2: little bit. But uh, these games have certainly been such

768
00:38:19,320 --> 00:38:23,399
Speaker 2: that nobody somebody is probably not going to run away

769
00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:26,600
Speaker 2: and hide, because both these teams are capable and have

770
00:38:26,680 --> 00:38:28,520
Speaker 2: shown it that they're not going to quit. And in

771
00:38:28,560 --> 00:38:31,120
Speaker 2: a game seven situation in the NBA Finals, you're not

772
00:38:31,160 --> 00:38:34,280
Speaker 2: playing the next day anyway, right, So I can't imagine

773
00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:36,200
Speaker 2: even if you get out thirty that you're going to

774
00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:37,080
Speaker 2: take your foot off.

775
00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:39,319
Speaker 3: The gas this time.

776
00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:43,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, not in this scenario. I don't think it's going

777
00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:45,440
Speaker 2: to be a blowout. I don't think The one thing

778
00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:47,960
Speaker 2: that would surprise me is if the you said nothing

779
00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:50,520
Speaker 2: would surprise you. That's what Mark said. The only thing

780
00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:52,680
Speaker 2: that would surprise me if the Pacers blew out the

781
00:38:52,760 --> 00:38:56,440
Speaker 2: thunder on the road, I don't think that will happen.

782
00:38:56,920 --> 00:39:00,319
Speaker 2: I blow out like twenty five point. I could see

783
00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:04,759
Speaker 2: Indiana win. I could even see Indiana win comfortably. But

784
00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:07,560
Speaker 2: not a blowout. Oh no, If there's a blowout, I

785
00:39:07,560 --> 00:39:09,319
Speaker 2: feel like it has to be Oklahoma City. Yeah.

786
00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:11,239
Speaker 3: If I can see Okaoma City up being up like

787
00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:12,960
Speaker 3: six to eight late in the game and all of

788
00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:15,880
Speaker 3: a sudden they scored the last eight points and sixteen,

789
00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:17,960
Speaker 3: it looks like a blowout of something like that. But

790
00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:21,399
Speaker 3: I think it could be a close game halfway through

791
00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:24,360
Speaker 3: the fourth, which means it's a you know, a single

792
00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:27,040
Speaker 3: digit game that's like eight or West or nine or West,

793
00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:31,200
Speaker 3: and they're fighting it out. Nothing crazy, nothing like fifteen

794
00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:34,000
Speaker 3: or sixteen. Then we could have a good game seven

795
00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:36,839
Speaker 3: and hopefully we can enjoy it. Anything more. Forget about

796
00:39:36,880 --> 00:39:37,239
Speaker 3: it then.

797
00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:40,239
Speaker 2: So when we come back out of this break, we're

798
00:39:40,239 --> 00:39:41,960
Speaker 2: gonna continue to But there's just a lot of Game

799
00:39:42,040 --> 00:39:44,680
Speaker 2: seven to talk about. There is some Schador Sanders that

800
00:39:44,760 --> 00:39:48,160
Speaker 2: we need to get to. There's Sam Darnold and Tom Brady.

801
00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:51,680
Speaker 2: There's there's some other stuff going on, no question about that.

802
00:39:52,160 --> 00:39:54,000
Speaker 2: But the one thing we haven't really discussed at all

803
00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:57,640
Speaker 2: regarding Game seven is the broadcast. There's gotta be some

804
00:39:57,760 --> 00:40:01,440
Speaker 2: pressure on ESPN, especially with kind of how their coverage

805
00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:03,840
Speaker 2: has been viewed thus far. So we'll jump into the

806
00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:08,160
Speaker 2: broadcast and the presentation of Game seven when we come back.

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Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio, our.

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Speaker 2: Number two of the program. We are live in the

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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio studios. He is Arnie Spaniard, I'm Jason Martin,

810
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Speaker 2: Aaron Torres with the weekend off. If you are a

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Speaker 2: member of the Indiana Pacers or the Oklahoma City Thunder,

812
00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:31,080
Speaker 2: you do not have the weekend off, Nope, but you

813
00:40:31,160 --> 00:40:32,279
Speaker 2: do have next week off.

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00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:34,759
Speaker 3: Then what do we do?

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Speaker 2: I don't know, man. I guess you can go to Cancun,

816
00:40:40,560 --> 00:40:43,319
Speaker 2: but it's not like a derogatory thing at that point. No,

817
00:40:43,360 --> 00:40:44,759
Speaker 2: you want to go. I think you could probably go

818
00:40:44,840 --> 00:40:48,240
Speaker 2: at that point, maybe watch the draft while you're down there.

819
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Speaker 3: But you know they'll be football news. There's always football

820
00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:51,760
Speaker 3: news during that time.

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Speaker 2: I mean Aaron I would say, like, could the Aaron

822
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Speaker 2: Rodgers separation news be next? Since no one's late eyes

823
00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:08,040
Speaker 2: on Brittany apparently, And now there's like this tabloid speculation

824
00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:10,360
Speaker 2: he was on the beach by himself.

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00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:13,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, but they said there was nothing file too, so

826
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Speaker 3: that he's not officially married.

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Speaker 2: I guess, so can we just let's just let's get

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00:41:18,040 --> 00:41:23,040
Speaker 2: down to brass tacks. He's sort of a weird cat, right, right,

829
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Speaker 2: He's just a weird guy in general. Like if you

830
00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:29,040
Speaker 2: found out he wasn't married, would it be like it

831
00:41:29,080 --> 00:41:32,319
Speaker 2: would be surprising that anyone else would say it? And

832
00:41:32,360 --> 00:41:35,640
Speaker 2: it was never true, And it's just like maybe he

833
00:41:35,719 --> 00:41:40,000
Speaker 2: got married in his mind at burning Man or at

834
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Speaker 2: a darkness retreat, who knows. Man. I was hoping it

835
00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:48,200
Speaker 2: was real and it was, Yeah, legit loved.

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Speaker 3: For him and smart the media wants. That's what it's

837
00:41:51,680 --> 00:41:54,280
Speaker 3: all about. He's playing games with the media. He wants

838
00:41:54,360 --> 00:41:57,240
Speaker 3: to feel like he's out smarting them. Can you imagine

839
00:41:57,440 --> 00:42:00,920
Speaker 3: think about this. I can understand when celebrity and athletes

840
00:42:01,360 --> 00:42:03,800
Speaker 3: don't want to tell people when they're getting married, but

841
00:42:03,880 --> 00:42:06,840
Speaker 3: they don't want the paparazzi crashing the wedding or anything

842
00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:08,840
Speaker 3: like that. But why would you want to keep it

843
00:42:08,840 --> 00:42:12,279
Speaker 3: a secret afterwards? It's the happiest day of your life,

844
00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:14,800
Speaker 3: for at least one of the happiest days of your life.

845
00:42:15,640 --> 00:42:18,440
Speaker 3: Why would you want to say, no, I'm not married,

846
00:42:18,560 --> 00:42:20,200
Speaker 3: or I want to keep it a secret. And I

847
00:42:20,200 --> 00:42:22,520
Speaker 3: don't want anybody to know. What kind of miserable life

848
00:42:22,520 --> 00:42:24,880
Speaker 3: do you have that it has to be a secret

849
00:42:24,880 --> 00:42:25,920
Speaker 3: like that. I don't understand.

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00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:28,680
Speaker 2: But again, like if we let's say it was like

851
00:42:29,360 --> 00:42:32,560
Speaker 2: you know, like there's blind taste tests and stuff like that. Right, Like,

852
00:42:33,239 --> 00:42:36,920
Speaker 2: let's say you didn't know who it was, but I

853
00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:40,719
Speaker 2: had said, there's a professional athlete that came back from

854
00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:42,880
Speaker 2: kind of just being in the middle of nowhere for

855
00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:46,319
Speaker 2: a while and said he had been married for two months.

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00:42:46,760 --> 00:42:49,319
Speaker 2: I don't think we would have taken five guesses to

857
00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:51,280
Speaker 2: have at least suggested Aaron Rodgers.

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00:42:51,400 --> 00:42:52,680
Speaker 3: No, maybe Manti Tea.

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Speaker 2: That would have been, well, that's well played. I didn't

860
00:42:57,120 --> 00:42:59,239
Speaker 2: think about that. But Rogers would have to be near

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Speaker 2: the top.

862
00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:01,879
Speaker 3: I would say that to him. I'm just teasy. I'm

863
00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:05,640
Speaker 3: just eazy about that. I mean, I don't understand mid

864
00:43:05,680 --> 00:43:06,440
Speaker 3: a world.

865
00:43:06,160 --> 00:43:09,120
Speaker 2: Peace a few years ago, yeah, or something like maybe

866
00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:12,880
Speaker 2: the prime days of her on our testis Rodman.

867
00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:14,640
Speaker 3: I still don't know who he was dating and who

868
00:43:14,760 --> 00:43:16,800
Speaker 3: was married to. I have no idea on that front,

869
00:43:16,840 --> 00:43:17,000
Speaker 3: you know.

870
00:43:17,680 --> 00:43:20,120
Speaker 2: Yeah. So I went and saw Counting Crows last week

871
00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:23,920
Speaker 2: with my wife, and I said, I was, like, every

872
00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:28,759
Speaker 2: single guy wanted to be Adam Duritz in like the

873
00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:32,600
Speaker 2: mid nineties. Really why, I was like, look at the

874
00:43:32,640 --> 00:43:35,920
Speaker 2: list of the people that he dated. It's the most

875
00:43:36,400 --> 00:43:44,280
Speaker 2: ridiculous list ever, Like, it's it's absolutely preposterous. And basically

876
00:43:44,320 --> 00:43:46,440
Speaker 2: she was she kind of looked at him, like why.

877
00:43:47,080 --> 00:43:49,000
Speaker 2: And then I looked it up and they called it

878
00:43:49,040 --> 00:43:53,160
Speaker 2: the Pete Davidson effect, because Pete Davidson's the one that

879
00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:56,040
Speaker 2: for some reason has been with you know, has has

880
00:43:56,040 --> 00:43:58,160
Speaker 2: been a relationships with all these women. But I mean,

881
00:43:58,200 --> 00:43:59,360
Speaker 2: he's Pete Davidson.

882
00:44:00,239 --> 00:44:03,000
Speaker 3: Way before that. You have to go way back to

883
00:44:03,640 --> 00:44:06,960
Speaker 3: John Derrek, who used to date fame and married famous

884
00:44:07,040 --> 00:44:11,520
Speaker 3: beautiful women like Bo Derek and people like that, Arsla Andrews,

885
00:44:11,600 --> 00:44:15,680
Speaker 3: I believe, and he was known for dating supermodels to

886
00:44:15,719 --> 00:44:16,640
Speaker 3: that effect.

887
00:44:16,680 --> 00:44:19,080
Speaker 2: And we had like the Lyle love It, Julia Roberts,

888
00:44:19,360 --> 00:44:21,719
Speaker 2: ye ye back the day. And so there's always there's

889
00:44:21,719 --> 00:44:23,680
Speaker 2: always gonna be the weird cases. But no one is

890
00:44:23,719 --> 00:44:26,280
Speaker 2: weirder in sports right now. I think Dan Aaron Rodgers

891
00:44:26,280 --> 00:44:28,760
Speaker 2: just kind of the way he goes about everything seems

892
00:44:28,760 --> 00:44:31,400
Speaker 2: like he's always playing You said it right, he's playing games.

893
00:44:31,760 --> 00:44:35,880
Speaker 2: He likes to just kind of pull strings for for

894
00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:38,560
Speaker 2: no end. Sometimes either like he said, it's almost just

895
00:44:38,600 --> 00:44:42,440
Speaker 2: doing it for laughs. Here's my hot take, maybe not

896
00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:45,600
Speaker 2: even hot tape. This is my bold take early in

897
00:44:46,480 --> 00:44:49,440
Speaker 2: you know, long before the NFL season starts, right, this

898
00:44:49,520 --> 00:44:51,040
Speaker 2: is gonna be a year where Tom and has a

899
00:44:51,040 --> 00:44:51,760
Speaker 2: losing season.

900
00:44:52,160 --> 00:44:57,400
Speaker 3: Oh, I with you one one. It's gonna be a

901
00:44:57,440 --> 00:45:01,120
Speaker 3: miserable year. I'm seeing six or seven wins on the horizon.

902
00:45:02,040 --> 00:45:04,120
Speaker 3: I don't think he's going to have a good year

903
00:45:04,160 --> 00:45:06,640
Speaker 3: at all. I don't think he's ready for this year.

904
00:45:06,960 --> 00:45:09,440
Speaker 3: He thinks that he could just shrug everything off and

905
00:45:09,560 --> 00:45:13,000
Speaker 3: come on in. He's made a mistake, and you know

906
00:45:13,080 --> 00:45:16,000
Speaker 3: he's still I think that injury still is hampering him

907
00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:18,800
Speaker 3: a little bit. I just don't see it for the

908
00:45:19,120 --> 00:45:21,680
Speaker 3: Steelers this year, they're a third place if they're lucky.

909
00:45:21,719 --> 00:45:23,719
Speaker 2: To be honest with you, that's exactly what I think

910
00:45:23,760 --> 00:45:25,839
Speaker 2: i'd be. You pretty much enabled it. Like everything you

911
00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:28,239
Speaker 2: just said is kind of the way I think this

912
00:45:28,280 --> 00:45:30,080
Speaker 2: is going to go down. It doesn't trend right, it

913
00:45:30,120 --> 00:45:32,799
Speaker 2: doesn't feel right, it doesn't look right. You also got

914
00:45:32,920 --> 00:45:36,000
Speaker 2: rid of George Pickens along the way. TJ. Watt, You're

915
00:45:36,040 --> 00:45:39,560
Speaker 2: still working at his contract situation like nothing. Nothing seems

916
00:45:39,600 --> 00:45:42,840
Speaker 2: to be Steeler like to me this year and the

917
00:45:42,960 --> 00:45:46,120
Speaker 2: Rogers saying everybody else can get excited about it. I

918
00:45:46,200 --> 00:45:49,120
Speaker 2: want to watch it because I'm certainly fascinated by it.

919
00:45:49,200 --> 00:45:53,319
Speaker 2: I just it's more I wouldn't say car crash, but

920
00:45:54,120 --> 00:45:56,040
Speaker 2: near miss kind of stuff.

921
00:45:56,239 --> 00:45:58,000
Speaker 3: Do we still know why it took him so long

922
00:45:58,040 --> 00:45:59,520
Speaker 3: as the sign? Was it because he didn't want to

923
00:45:59,520 --> 00:46:01,960
Speaker 3: go into the camp and didn't want to practice, didn't

924
00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:03,960
Speaker 3: want to be held if he signed.

925
00:46:04,160 --> 00:46:06,080
Speaker 2: Arnie, if he signed three months ago, we wouldn't have

926
00:46:06,080 --> 00:46:08,879
Speaker 2: talked about it for three months. I mean, but there's

927
00:46:08,920 --> 00:46:10,839
Speaker 2: gotta be a stay in the top of the news

928
00:46:10,840 --> 00:46:13,400
Speaker 2: cycle by not being there right right.

929
00:46:13,320 --> 00:46:15,480
Speaker 3: I understand that. I'm just wondering if that's the reason

930
00:46:15,520 --> 00:46:18,160
Speaker 3: why he didn't want to sign. Butause you don't won't

931
00:46:18,160 --> 00:46:19,000
Speaker 3: go to camp or anything.

932
00:46:19,239 --> 00:46:22,600
Speaker 2: That Apparently he got married and he was, I don't know,

933
00:46:22,680 --> 00:46:24,759
Speaker 2: in Mozambique or who knows.

934
00:46:24,800 --> 00:46:28,280
Speaker 3: You know, did you hear dani Ka Patrick's uh.

935
00:46:28,160 --> 00:46:32,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, what she said about their relationship was not flattering.

936
00:46:32,920 --> 00:46:33,160
Speaker 5: I was.

937
00:46:33,560 --> 00:46:35,120
Speaker 2: I was stunned by it, as I was.

938
00:46:35,920 --> 00:46:38,319
Speaker 3: I was too. It said it was emotional abuse. Is

939
00:46:38,320 --> 00:46:39,200
Speaker 3: that the word she used?

940
00:46:39,840 --> 00:46:45,319
Speaker 2: Emotional abuse? Sale Woo was saying the same stuff. Who Yeah,

941
00:46:45,360 --> 00:46:47,880
Speaker 2: I think I didn't know Shaleen Woodley had said anything.

942
00:46:47,920 --> 00:46:49,840
Speaker 2: I just saw the dana Ka Patrick stuff here just

943
00:46:49,840 --> 00:46:51,120
Speaker 2: a couple of days ago.

944
00:46:51,120 --> 00:46:52,880
Speaker 3: And he was not flattering on that.

945
00:46:53,000 --> 00:46:56,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'd always heard the opposite. We'd always kind of

946
00:46:56,880 --> 00:46:59,640
Speaker 2: heard that, like Olivia Munn was a problem, right, Like

947
00:46:59,719 --> 00:47:02,480
Speaker 2: she helped isolate Aaron from his family.

948
00:47:02,520 --> 00:47:04,680
Speaker 3: And then you thought that was like that, and you

949
00:47:04,719 --> 00:47:08,920
Speaker 3: thought Danica was a problem also just because she's a

950
00:47:08,920 --> 00:47:11,040
Speaker 3: little bit tougher, you know what I mean when she.

951
00:47:11,239 --> 00:47:14,080
Speaker 2: Had strong little alpha is she she wanted to be

952
00:47:14,120 --> 00:47:17,799
Speaker 2: a car driver and everything else. Like but like what

953
00:47:18,000 --> 00:47:22,000
Speaker 2: she said, the reason why it's believable is because it's

954
00:47:22,040 --> 00:47:25,359
Speaker 2: coming from someone that wouldn't you wouldn't necessarily think would

955
00:47:25,400 --> 00:47:28,719
Speaker 2: admit something like that, exactly right, Like, she hasn't built

956
00:47:28,719 --> 00:47:31,040
Speaker 2: her career on being that type. She hasn't built her

957
00:47:31,040 --> 00:47:33,239
Speaker 2: career on being vulnerable. So for the fact that she

958
00:47:33,360 --> 00:47:38,920
Speaker 2: gets vulnerable in this moment, man, she has nothing to

959
00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:41,919
Speaker 2: achieve by coming out with that either exactly like having

960
00:47:41,960 --> 00:47:44,799
Speaker 2: a lawsuit or anything to that. She was I think

961
00:47:44,880 --> 00:47:47,200
Speaker 2: she was on a podcast, which is which is why

962
00:47:47,239 --> 00:47:47,839
Speaker 2: he came out.

963
00:47:47,960 --> 00:47:50,719
Speaker 3: So yeah, I was a little surprised that. I'm like, wow,

964
00:47:50,760 --> 00:47:52,120
Speaker 3: and that's that's.

965
00:47:52,200 --> 00:47:54,440
Speaker 2: That's exaggerated because I just don't want to think that

966
00:47:54,600 --> 00:47:58,000
Speaker 2: anybody went through and we didn't get any details. I'm

967
00:47:58,000 --> 00:48:01,880
Speaker 2: glad honestly we don't need the details, but I don't

968
00:48:01,960 --> 00:48:04,520
Speaker 2: like the thought of any woman going through that in

969
00:48:04,560 --> 00:48:08,000
Speaker 2: any kind of a relationship. And I Woodley has also

970
00:48:08,040 --> 00:48:09,000
Speaker 2: said something similar.

971
00:48:09,040 --> 00:48:12,360
Speaker 8: Then that's so actually looking it looks like she said,

972
00:48:12,600 --> 00:48:14,919
Speaker 8: I haven't shared much about my relationship with Aaron because

973
00:48:14,960 --> 00:48:16,920
Speaker 8: it always makes me cry. But she added it was

974
00:48:16,960 --> 00:48:19,399
Speaker 8: not right, but it was beautiful, so she at least

975
00:48:19,440 --> 00:48:21,520
Speaker 8: has some positive thoughts on it, so it wasn't as

976
00:48:21,520 --> 00:48:22,480
Speaker 8: bad as the dank.

977
00:48:22,400 --> 00:48:27,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, better. Yeah, it's not going to be good.

978
00:48:28,160 --> 00:48:30,719
Speaker 3: No, I yeah. I First of all, you know, if

979
00:48:30,760 --> 00:48:32,719
Speaker 3: you look at somebod and I think I have said

980
00:48:32,760 --> 00:48:34,839
Speaker 3: this to you before, I'm not sure when's the last

981
00:48:34,840 --> 00:48:37,520
Speaker 3: time we filled in. If you look at the divisions,

982
00:48:38,920 --> 00:48:41,719
Speaker 3: there's not a lot that are up for grabs there,

983
00:48:41,760 --> 00:48:44,480
Speaker 3: to be honest for you, Like in the AFC, we

984
00:48:44,560 --> 00:48:46,960
Speaker 3: already know it's going to be Baltimore. We already know

985
00:48:47,000 --> 00:48:49,120
Speaker 3: it's going to be the Texans. We already know it's

986
00:48:49,160 --> 00:48:51,359
Speaker 3: going to be Kansas City, and we already know it's

987
00:48:51,360 --> 00:48:54,439
Speaker 3: going to be Buffalo one, two, three, four there they've

988
00:48:54,440 --> 00:48:57,120
Speaker 3: already won the division. But in that Pittsburgh division, it's

989
00:48:57,120 --> 00:49:01,399
Speaker 3: gonna be Baltimore, it's gonna be Cincinnati definitely won two.

990
00:49:01,520 --> 00:49:04,520
Speaker 3: You could bank on that. Pittsburgh lucky to be ahead

991
00:49:04,520 --> 00:49:05,960
Speaker 3: of Cleveland at the number three spot.

992
00:49:06,360 --> 00:49:10,200
Speaker 2: So I told I told now, I tell Torres this,

993
00:49:10,280 --> 00:49:11,960
Speaker 2: or is this when I was soloing? I may it

994
00:49:12,000 --> 00:49:13,480
Speaker 2: may have been when I was in for Bernie Fretto.

995
00:49:13,560 --> 00:49:15,840
Speaker 2: I said this, Okay, the Bills are the one team

996
00:49:15,880 --> 00:49:19,520
Speaker 2: that are picked to win every game. They're favored to

997
00:49:19,560 --> 00:49:23,239
Speaker 2: win every game this season. They're not an underdog in

998
00:49:23,360 --> 00:49:27,680
Speaker 2: any game based on their schedule. Here's what I think, Arney,

999
00:49:27,800 --> 00:49:30,399
Speaker 2: and you, being an AFC eastky as a Miami fan,

1000
00:49:30,960 --> 00:49:34,600
Speaker 2: may appreciate this. Call me in January, Man, I don't

1001
00:49:34,640 --> 00:49:37,680
Speaker 2: care what Buffalo does until the playoffs. Like we've heard

1002
00:49:37,680 --> 00:49:41,239
Speaker 2: this every year, and they're good every year, but that's

1003
00:49:41,280 --> 00:49:43,839
Speaker 2: not going to be how things are determined for them. Like,

1004
00:49:45,000 --> 00:49:47,319
Speaker 2: do something in the playoffs and I'll care. Like you

1005
00:49:47,360 --> 00:49:49,799
Speaker 2: can go undefeated in the regular season, I still want

1006
00:49:49,800 --> 00:49:51,279
Speaker 2: to see it in January. Well like that.

1007
00:49:51,480 --> 00:49:54,759
Speaker 3: That's great and all. That's fair. But the reason I'm

1008
00:49:54,760 --> 00:49:56,760
Speaker 3: saying they're probably the number one team in the AFC

1009
00:49:56,840 --> 00:49:59,120
Speaker 3: is because I really think Kansas City is gonna take

1010
00:49:59,160 --> 00:50:03,080
Speaker 3: a big step back words. I think Age is finally

1011
00:50:03,080 --> 00:50:06,480
Speaker 3: gonna catch up to them. When you said show me,

1012
00:50:06,640 --> 00:50:08,600
Speaker 3: show me what you could do when the playoffs come around,

1013
00:50:09,320 --> 00:50:11,879
Speaker 3: were you talking about Buffalo or Lamar Jackson, I wasn't.

1014
00:50:11,960 --> 00:50:12,920
Speaker 2: I mean, you could talk about all.

1015
00:50:13,480 --> 00:50:16,239
Speaker 3: I didn't know. I wasn't sure because both of it.

1016
00:50:16,280 --> 00:50:18,440
Speaker 2: But I know, I know, I just only one of

1017
00:50:18,480 --> 00:50:21,600
Speaker 2: them can actually show you something though, right, right? But

1018
00:50:21,600 --> 00:50:24,160
Speaker 2: but the difference is that Buffalo is picked to win

1019
00:50:24,280 --> 00:50:27,279
Speaker 2: every game, right, So it's like, well, Baltimore, they're they're

1020
00:50:27,320 --> 00:50:30,080
Speaker 2: better than Philly, They're better than all these teams. It's like, okay,

1021
00:50:30,120 --> 00:50:33,160
Speaker 2: that's great, but you haven't even made a super Bowl yet. Well,

1022
00:50:33,239 --> 00:50:35,320
Speaker 2: like Mark Jackson is that at some point.

1023
00:50:35,160 --> 00:50:37,319
Speaker 3: He's an m VP better than everybody else. And I'm

1024
00:50:37,320 --> 00:50:39,200
Speaker 3: sure Baltimore is going to be just about favorite in

1025
00:50:39,239 --> 00:50:42,160
Speaker 3: all their games with maybe one or or two. So

1026
00:50:42,480 --> 00:50:47,080
Speaker 3: there it's a three team race Baltimore, Buffalo, Kansas City.

1027
00:50:47,480 --> 00:50:49,440
Speaker 3: But this could be their year. I mean, they had

1028
00:50:49,480 --> 00:50:52,320
Speaker 3: a great record last year. The AFC is a little

1029
00:50:52,360 --> 00:50:54,560
Speaker 3: bit of the AFC East is a little bit better

1030
00:50:55,000 --> 00:50:57,560
Speaker 3: than it was last year. So maybe going to be

1031
00:50:57,560 --> 00:50:59,640
Speaker 3: a disaster. No, they're not going to be a cakewalk

1032
00:50:59,680 --> 00:51:00,880
Speaker 3: like that, and the Jets are going to be a

1033
00:51:00,880 --> 00:51:03,440
Speaker 3: little bit better off. So not so I'm not sure

1034
00:51:03,440 --> 00:51:04,520
Speaker 3: where my dapine man.

1035
00:51:04,600 --> 00:51:07,160
Speaker 2: Did you hear what Justin Field said? Justin Fields thinks

1036
00:51:07,280 --> 00:51:10,239
Speaker 2: the sky is a limit. He thinks there's a lot

1037
00:51:10,560 --> 00:51:14,000
Speaker 2: there in that Jets organization. He feels like I can't

1038
00:51:14,040 --> 00:51:16,680
Speaker 2: remember the exact quote, but he was just talking about

1039
00:51:16,680 --> 00:51:18,400
Speaker 2: he's going to be at his best, Like he feels

1040
00:51:18,400 --> 00:51:20,799
Speaker 2: like they can really succeed. But then at least he said,

1041
00:51:20,840 --> 00:51:22,719
Speaker 2: you know, there's a lot of work to do, right.

1042
00:51:22,760 --> 00:51:24,960
Speaker 2: I know that that's what anybody is going to say,

1043
00:51:25,000 --> 00:51:29,319
Speaker 2: but I'm like, dude, it's the Jets, like say, just

1044
00:51:29,360 --> 00:51:32,400
Speaker 2: say we're going to get to double digit wins. Oh, Gilby,

1045
00:51:32,560 --> 00:51:36,560
Speaker 2: give me something here, never coached before, never been a

1046
00:51:36,600 --> 00:51:40,080
Speaker 2: head coach before. Like, it could go right, but it

1047
00:51:40,120 --> 00:51:41,640
Speaker 2: could also go full Jets.

1048
00:51:41,840 --> 00:51:43,520
Speaker 3: Oh, I could see him in last place. I think

1049
00:51:43,520 --> 00:51:46,960
Speaker 3: the Patriots actually passed him up and put him and

1050
00:51:47,200 --> 00:51:49,640
Speaker 3: Patriots in the third place. I think it was Buffalo

1051
00:51:49,680 --> 00:51:54,120
Speaker 3: Miami Patriots and then the Jets. But they'll be ale

1052
00:51:54,120 --> 00:51:56,759
Speaker 3: a lot more formidable than they were last year with

1053
00:51:56,880 --> 00:51:59,200
Speaker 3: Aaron Rodgers. I really do believe that the Patriots are

1054
00:51:59,200 --> 00:52:01,440
Speaker 3: going to be better off, so that division will be

1055
00:52:01,440 --> 00:52:02,719
Speaker 3: better all the way one through four.

1056
00:52:03,360 --> 00:52:05,560
Speaker 2: Dude, I think that I think the Bengals might be

1057
00:52:05,640 --> 00:52:09,120
Speaker 2: the worst team in the AFC, And it has nothing

1058
00:52:09,160 --> 00:52:12,719
Speaker 2: to do with anything other than the video that Ian

1059
00:52:12,800 --> 00:52:13,799
Speaker 2: sent me during the break.

1060
00:52:14,920 --> 00:52:17,520
Speaker 3: Have you seen Yes, I saw that earlier today.

1061
00:52:17,600 --> 00:52:20,280
Speaker 2: So Joe Burrow, I guess was it a charity event

1062
00:52:20,400 --> 00:52:25,160
Speaker 2: or something in some kind of Okay, yeah, yeah, got it.

1063
00:52:25,520 --> 00:52:27,560
Speaker 2: So he threw I think it was eight balls. I

1064
00:52:27,560 --> 00:52:31,800
Speaker 2: think I watched it, and man, dude is all about

1065
00:52:32,040 --> 00:52:36,160
Speaker 2: way outside to the left, like just everything was was

1066
00:52:36,239 --> 00:52:39,440
Speaker 2: just straight up hooking left. He had one that actually

1067
00:52:39,520 --> 00:52:40,760
Speaker 2: hit the target.

1068
00:52:40,560 --> 00:52:43,080
Speaker 3: Issue, and it felt like he.

1069
00:52:43,080 --> 00:52:44,680
Speaker 2: Was getting better. Like I looked at the second one.

1070
00:52:44,680 --> 00:52:46,680
Speaker 2: It wasn't quite as far off than the third one. Okay,

1071
00:52:46,680 --> 00:52:48,480
Speaker 2: we're getting a little closer than the fourth one hit

1072
00:52:48,520 --> 00:52:49,880
Speaker 2: and I'm like, all right, he's got it now. The

1073
00:52:49,920 --> 00:52:52,600
Speaker 2: fifth one hit the wall over to the left. I'm like,

1074
00:52:54,080 --> 00:52:55,719
Speaker 2: but even it is astonished.

1075
00:52:55,840 --> 00:52:57,799
Speaker 8: Even when he was improving, it was more like because

1076
00:52:57,840 --> 00:52:59,840
Speaker 8: he was just aiming farther to the right. It's like

1077
00:53:00,840 --> 00:53:02,680
Speaker 8: driving to the left. You just aim right because you

1078
00:53:02,719 --> 00:53:04,400
Speaker 8: don't want to fix your He doesn't know.

1079
00:53:04,360 --> 00:53:06,280
Speaker 3: How to throw a baseball, That's what it was.

1080
00:53:06,040 --> 00:53:07,280
Speaker 2: I was throwing football.

1081
00:53:07,680 --> 00:53:10,200
Speaker 3: If it's very difficult to throw a baseball. If you

1082
00:53:10,200 --> 00:53:11,400
Speaker 3: don't know how to throw.

1083
00:53:11,160 --> 00:53:14,520
Speaker 2: One can honest, Like, if you're Joe Burrow, don't you

1084
00:53:14,520 --> 00:53:17,239
Speaker 2: you know, go out and play catch with somebody for

1085
00:53:18,160 --> 00:53:20,280
Speaker 2: a day. Look, have you thrown the first Pitch album?

1086
00:53:20,360 --> 00:53:20,560
Speaker 5: Yeah?

1087
00:53:20,560 --> 00:53:21,880
Speaker 2: I have.

1088
00:53:21,440 --> 00:53:24,680
Speaker 3: I And I went and went then played catch and

1089
00:53:24,920 --> 00:53:28,319
Speaker 3: threw some stuff off the mound, and it's very nerve wracking, man,

1090
00:53:28,360 --> 00:53:32,040
Speaker 3: it really is if you're not a baseball player. But

1091
00:53:32,080 --> 00:53:34,680
Speaker 3: if you're an athlete, it should go okay. But sometimes

1092
00:53:34,960 --> 00:53:36,680
Speaker 3: you hold on to the ball too long and you

1093
00:53:36,840 --> 00:53:38,799
Speaker 3: just bounce one up there a couple of times, you know.

1094
00:53:39,320 --> 00:53:43,640
Speaker 2: So, I mean I threw a strike technically right, the

1095
00:53:43,719 --> 00:53:47,480
Speaker 2: ball got there and it was caught in the strike zone,

1096
00:53:47,600 --> 00:53:51,719
Speaker 2: but it was very much Henry rowing Gardener. Like, when

1097
00:53:51,760 --> 00:53:53,400
Speaker 2: I went back and watched the video, I was like,

1098
00:53:53,480 --> 00:53:58,479
Speaker 2: this is the ugliest. This is the Adrian Dantley free throw.

1099
00:53:59,760 --> 00:54:01,000
Speaker 2: That's a reference right there.

1100
00:54:02,160 --> 00:54:05,520
Speaker 3: I remember that, likes that was a good one there.

1101
00:54:05,800 --> 00:54:09,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what it was, man Like. It wasn't a float,

1102
00:54:09,400 --> 00:54:11,920
Speaker 2: but if you watch it, I shot putted the ball

1103
00:54:12,640 --> 00:54:14,400
Speaker 2: and I was like, I went through for like a

1104
00:54:14,480 --> 00:54:17,160
Speaker 2: day or two before, just because I didn't want to

1105
00:54:17,160 --> 00:54:20,080
Speaker 2: embarrass myself. I just wanted to feel a little comfortable

1106
00:54:20,120 --> 00:54:21,960
Speaker 2: going up there because I hadn't picked up a baseball

1107
00:54:22,000 --> 00:54:24,440
Speaker 2: in years and years. And then I go up there

1108
00:54:24,480 --> 00:54:25,719
Speaker 2: and I throw it, and I'm like, well, this is

1109
00:54:25,719 --> 00:54:28,960
Speaker 2: probably how it was practicing. Nobody decided to tell me.

1110
00:54:30,120 --> 00:54:30,959
Speaker 2: I just like this.

1111
00:54:31,520 --> 00:54:34,319
Speaker 3: I went to Ken Tacolvy and did the side arm

1112
00:54:34,600 --> 00:54:36,080
Speaker 3: thing invent No, I did not.

1113
00:54:37,120 --> 00:54:38,080
Speaker 2: Brett Saberhagen.

1114
00:54:38,360 --> 00:54:41,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, can you imagine somebody doing that kid kid Tokovy

1115
00:54:41,239 --> 00:54:44,160
Speaker 3: doing the full side arm and throwing it that way.

1116
00:54:44,160 --> 00:54:44,680
Speaker 3: That'd be fun.

1117
00:54:44,719 --> 00:54:49,080
Speaker 2: But look, man, Joe Burrow, I would just say, the

1118
00:54:49,120 --> 00:54:52,480
Speaker 2: Reds probably need to work with him behind the scenes

1119
00:54:52,520 --> 00:54:53,800
Speaker 2: if they're gonna have something.

1120
00:54:54,800 --> 00:54:56,480
Speaker 3: Did you see that story I said you about Joe

1121
00:54:56,520 --> 00:54:58,759
Speaker 3: Burrow's dad. Since you're on Joe Burrow, did you see that?

1122
00:54:59,239 --> 00:55:01,200
Speaker 2: Tell me tell me this story. I did not have

1123
00:55:01,239 --> 00:55:04,120
Speaker 2: a chance to fully research Thisay, I hope it.

1124
00:55:04,239 --> 00:55:06,080
Speaker 3: I hope it's true, and I think it is. I

1125
00:55:06,080 --> 00:55:09,480
Speaker 3: said that to a bunch of people. I guess many years,

1126
00:55:09,680 --> 00:55:14,080
Speaker 3: many years ago, when Joe Burrow bet on his son,

1127
00:55:14,800 --> 00:55:17,840
Speaker 3: his father bet on his son to win the Heisman.

1128
00:55:18,000 --> 00:55:19,480
Speaker 2: This is true. I saw this too.

1129
00:55:19,640 --> 00:55:23,919
Speaker 3: He did, and he bet two thousand dollars wow, at

1130
00:55:24,040 --> 00:55:28,120
Speaker 3: two hundred to one odds, which meant his payback was

1131
00:55:28,160 --> 00:55:31,520
Speaker 3: about four hundred thousand dollars.

1132
00:55:32,719 --> 00:55:34,799
Speaker 8: It was also that he was like the only I

1133
00:55:34,800 --> 00:55:37,160
Speaker 8: think he was the only person in in in the

1134
00:55:37,200 --> 00:55:39,360
Speaker 8: country who bet on Joe Burrow to win the High.

1135
00:55:39,280 --> 00:55:42,320
Speaker 3: Get out at that time? Get out.

1136
00:55:42,440 --> 00:55:45,680
Speaker 2: I remember, how believe some lsu Hank didn't just put

1137
00:55:45,719 --> 00:55:47,280
Speaker 2: down a bunch of money on Joe Burrow.

1138
00:55:47,520 --> 00:55:50,440
Speaker 3: Well, that reminds me of like Rory McIlroy's dad betting

1139
00:55:50,480 --> 00:55:53,439
Speaker 3: on his and Rory remember that you heard about that one.

1140
00:55:53,560 --> 00:55:55,879
Speaker 2: So yeah, well, I mean that's not like, dude, how

1141
00:55:55,920 --> 00:55:59,400
Speaker 2: many how many fantasy teams have you seen in leagues

1142
00:55:59,440 --> 00:56:01,239
Speaker 2: that you've played in where it's like, oh, I know

1143
00:56:01,280 --> 00:56:03,960
Speaker 2: who what team he's a fan of? Right, because there's

1144
00:56:04,000 --> 00:56:06,520
Speaker 2: like four or five guys from that team. Like, if

1145
00:56:06,520 --> 00:56:08,680
Speaker 2: you have the money, like you're one of these wealthy

1146
00:56:08,719 --> 00:56:11,759
Speaker 2: donors or something like that, why wouldn't you just throw

1147
00:56:11,800 --> 00:56:15,480
Speaker 2: it down? I mean, especially in the SEC. We're nuts, Arnie.

1148
00:56:15,560 --> 00:56:17,800
Speaker 2: I don't know if you actually know you hosted in Atlanta.

1149
00:56:18,400 --> 00:56:21,200
Speaker 2: We're nuts. Oh, Like you are crazy down here. Like

1150
00:56:21,239 --> 00:56:23,960
Speaker 2: if you have money, the balls are gonna win it

1151
00:56:24,000 --> 00:56:26,200
Speaker 2: every year here in the state of Tennessee, and I'm

1152
00:56:26,239 --> 00:56:28,040
Speaker 2: gonna I'm gonna put money down on it. Like I

1153
00:56:28,040 --> 00:56:31,560
Speaker 2: can't believe like somebody with means didn't just do it

1154
00:56:31,600 --> 00:56:33,840
Speaker 2: to do it, like the fact that that might have

1155
00:56:33,880 --> 00:56:35,799
Speaker 2: been the only person in the country to do. It

1156
00:56:35,840 --> 00:56:36,640
Speaker 2: is stunning to me.

1157
00:56:36,760 --> 00:56:38,880
Speaker 3: It's a little shady, though. Do you get that, you

1158
00:56:38,880 --> 00:56:41,000
Speaker 3: know that his own father bet on him or do

1159
00:56:41,000 --> 00:56:42,040
Speaker 3: you don't have a problem with that.

1160
00:56:42,640 --> 00:56:45,520
Speaker 2: I don't have a problem because his father couldn't affect anything.

1161
00:56:45,960 --> 00:56:46,040
Speaker 9: Right.

1162
00:56:46,360 --> 00:56:48,239
Speaker 2: You play the best football in the world, so I

1163
00:56:48,239 --> 00:56:50,360
Speaker 2: can win money. Okay, dad, that's what it was gonna That.

1164
00:56:50,320 --> 00:56:52,040
Speaker 3: Would have been a story if he bet against his

1165
00:56:52,160 --> 00:56:55,480
Speaker 3: son in a game. Guy, Joe Burrow's dad better get

1166
00:56:55,480 --> 00:56:59,000
Speaker 3: his own son about that. That's crazy, you know. But no,

1167
00:56:59,040 --> 00:57:00,480
Speaker 3: thank goodness, we didn't find that out.

1168
00:57:00,600 --> 00:57:01,000
Speaker 2: I'm glad.

1169
00:57:01,040 --> 00:57:01,960
Speaker 3: That's so.

1170
00:57:01,960 --> 00:57:04,080
Speaker 2: So it's funny. We talked about how the NFL was

1171
00:57:04,120 --> 00:57:07,040
Speaker 2: gonna have stories. We were all set to talk about

1172
00:57:07,040 --> 00:57:09,560
Speaker 2: Game seven, and we just talked about football for the

1173
00:57:09,680 --> 00:57:10,320
Speaker 2: entire segment.

1174
00:57:10,480 --> 00:57:13,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, football, Football's king. I mean, even if it's an

1175
00:57:13,520 --> 00:57:17,080
Speaker 3: Aaron Rodgers or Joe Burrows story or or what's gonna happen.

1176
00:57:17,120 --> 00:57:20,880
Speaker 3: I mean, it's already June, by the way, in your mind,

1177
00:57:21,240 --> 00:57:26,200
Speaker 3: when does the football season start?

1178
00:57:27,320 --> 00:57:29,800
Speaker 7: I would say, you're telling me the NFL season or

1179
00:57:29,840 --> 00:57:32,520
Speaker 7: the NFL to me to the NFL season. To me,

1180
00:57:33,000 --> 00:57:36,480
Speaker 7: it's the first Hall of Fame preseason game. Not the

1181
00:57:36,480 --> 00:57:39,840
Speaker 7: first practice. Yeah, well I know that, but it's it's.

1182
00:57:39,680 --> 00:57:42,160
Speaker 2: A game the field, because they right, right, right.

1183
00:57:42,160 --> 00:57:45,200
Speaker 3: But to me, it's not when the practice starts, or

1184
00:57:45,280 --> 00:57:48,320
Speaker 3: that two weeks before the Hall of Fame game or

1185
00:57:48,360 --> 00:57:51,160
Speaker 3: the full first week. It's the week of the Hall

1186
00:57:51,200 --> 00:57:54,920
Speaker 3: of Fame game. Once that starts, boom, We've got football.

1187
00:57:54,920 --> 00:57:55,680
Speaker 3: We're ready to roll.

1188
00:57:55,840 --> 00:57:58,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, So I would argue, and we'll get to break

1189
00:57:58,080 --> 00:58:00,400
Speaker 2: here right after this. We'll come back. We can talk seven,

1190
00:58:00,440 --> 00:58:04,360
Speaker 2: but we may talk to her when we may talk Lebron,

1191
00:58:04,400 --> 00:58:06,479
Speaker 2: so we may stay just in Ohio for a little while.

1192
00:58:06,920 --> 00:58:09,200
Speaker 2: But I would say, and it used to be more

1193
00:58:09,240 --> 00:58:12,040
Speaker 2: true than it is now because it's so new again now.

1194
00:58:12,560 --> 00:58:16,440
Speaker 2: But when I started to really care again about football

1195
00:58:16,560 --> 00:58:19,360
Speaker 2: and really just get super hyped and start counting down

1196
00:58:19,400 --> 00:58:23,080
Speaker 2: the hours is when EA Sports College Football came out

1197
00:58:23,680 --> 00:58:26,720
Speaker 2: whenever that was if it answered LAO four or whatever,

1198
00:58:26,800 --> 00:58:30,160
Speaker 2: because it was about the second Tuesday in July somewhere

1199
00:58:30,200 --> 00:58:32,560
Speaker 2: in that neighborhood. That's when you and your friends are

1200
00:58:32,600 --> 00:58:36,320
Speaker 2: then playing the games, you're building your rosters, you're starting

1201
00:58:36,360 --> 00:58:38,360
Speaker 2: to get to know some things, you kind of get

1202
00:58:38,400 --> 00:58:41,120
Speaker 2: back into the swing of things. And then even though

1203
00:58:41,120 --> 00:58:43,360
Speaker 2: it hasn't been good in a long time. Madden would

1204
00:58:43,360 --> 00:58:45,400
Speaker 2: come out about a month later, and then a month

1205
00:58:45,440 --> 00:58:47,800
Speaker 2: after that the season would be going in both sports.

1206
00:58:47,800 --> 00:58:50,520
Speaker 2: So like the time where football begins to matter again,

1207
00:58:51,000 --> 00:58:53,440
Speaker 2: we'll be around. Like I think it's July, it's either

1208
00:58:53,520 --> 00:58:56,560
Speaker 2: July eleventh or July seventeenth at college football twenties.

1209
00:58:56,360 --> 00:58:57,920
Speaker 3: And we used to have six We used to have

1210
00:58:57,960 --> 00:59:01,160
Speaker 3: six preseason games in the NFL, So we got started,

1211
00:59:01,200 --> 00:59:03,520
Speaker 3: I believe a little bit earlier with the preseason games

1212
00:59:03,560 --> 00:59:03,880
Speaker 3: back then.

1213
00:59:03,920 --> 00:59:06,400
Speaker 2: Speaking of early, we are very very late right now. Yeah,

1214
00:59:06,400 --> 00:59:10,000
Speaker 2: you're talking, talking and talking. This his Arnie Spaniard just

1215
00:59:10,200 --> 00:59:13,080
Speaker 2: running off of the mouth. People. I apologize for this.

1216
00:59:13,120 --> 00:59:15,680
Speaker 2: So let's get to break. We will come back out

1217
00:59:15,680 --> 00:59:21,240
Speaker 2: of this. Lebron James does not think that championship rings

1218
00:59:21,720 --> 00:59:25,280
Speaker 2: should get the level of import that they do, and

1219
00:59:25,360 --> 00:59:31,440
Speaker 2: the greatest player ever discussions of course he doesn't. I'm

1220
00:59:31,520 --> 00:59:34,080
Speaker 2: Jason Martin, He's Arnie Spaniard. This is Fox Sports Radio,

1221
00:59:35,680 --> 00:59:40,080
Speaker 2: all right, I've never heard this. Somebody's having to tell

1222
00:59:40,120 --> 00:59:45,040
Speaker 2: me what this is the power of TikTok Okay. It's

1223
00:59:45,120 --> 00:59:52,200
Speaker 2: TikTok wow. We are living in Fox Sports Radio Studios

1224
00:59:52,920 --> 00:59:59,000
Speaker 2: a banger. This is not now, It's all right, actually interesting.

1225
00:59:59,600 --> 01:00:02,800
Speaker 2: By the way, you can stream this show all of

1226
01:00:02,800 --> 01:00:05,080
Speaker 2: our Fox Sports Radio shows live twenty four to seven

1227
01:00:05,080 --> 01:00:07,280
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1228
01:00:07,320 --> 01:00:10,040
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01:00:10,080 --> 01:00:12,840
Speaker 2: the newest features in the app, select Fox Sports Radio

1230
01:00:12,960 --> 01:00:15,240
Speaker 2: is one of your presets, just like the presets on

1231
01:00:15,280 --> 01:00:19,040
Speaker 2: a radio dial. Be sure just preset Fox Sports Radio

1232
01:00:19,080 --> 01:00:21,680
Speaker 2: and the iHeart app and it's always going to pop

1233
01:00:21,800 --> 01:00:25,320
Speaker 2: up at the top of your screen. Brand new iHeartRadio app.

1234
01:00:25,320 --> 01:00:28,800
Speaker 2: You gotta check it out, all right, Arnie, Yeah, we

1235
01:00:28,840 --> 01:00:38,840
Speaker 2: came back with this. Lebron James is a basketball player.

1236
01:00:39,080 --> 01:00:42,760
Speaker 2: Lebron James is a really good basketball player. He's one

1237
01:00:42,800 --> 01:00:48,200
Speaker 2: of the greatest basketball players of all time. But he's

1238
01:00:48,240 --> 01:00:55,480
Speaker 2: also annoying and transparent and kind of thin skinned, and

1239
01:00:55,520 --> 01:00:58,680
Speaker 2: he does things that just seem baffling because it's so

1240
01:00:58,880 --> 01:01:02,440
Speaker 2: obvious and it's just I wish he didn't do some

1241
01:01:02,520 --> 01:01:06,040
Speaker 2: of these things, and like, it's just this is such

1242
01:01:06,080 --> 01:01:07,320
Speaker 2: an unnecessary thing.

1243
01:01:07,360 --> 01:01:09,480
Speaker 3: If you have that's the modern athlete. By the way,

1244
01:01:09,480 --> 01:01:13,480
Speaker 3: when you just skin and conscending and all that, Oh,

1245
01:01:13,640 --> 01:01:15,560
Speaker 3: that's the modern day that I thought you were talking

1246
01:01:15,560 --> 01:01:17,040
Speaker 3: about Kevin Durant there for a second.

1247
01:01:17,040 --> 01:01:19,680
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, Durant, certainly, I was thinking about Durant when

1248
01:01:19,720 --> 01:01:21,160
Speaker 2: you started naming it. I'm like, man, did we just

1249
01:01:21,160 --> 01:01:23,680
Speaker 2: start talking about Duran No, we haven't quite gotten there yet,

1250
01:01:23,680 --> 01:01:25,240
Speaker 2: but we will talk about Durant here in a minute.

1251
01:01:25,280 --> 01:01:28,600
Speaker 2: But if you missed it, you know now that his

1252
01:01:28,720 --> 01:01:31,000
Speaker 2: head coach, JJ Reddick is his head coach. He's no

1253
01:01:31,040 --> 01:01:33,680
Speaker 2: longer his podcast co host. So now it's Steve Nash,

1254
01:01:33,920 --> 01:01:36,760
Speaker 2: so on the was it up on Game? Is that

1255
01:01:36,800 --> 01:01:38,240
Speaker 2: what it's called? I don't even not even sure what

1256
01:01:38,240 --> 01:01:41,720
Speaker 2: the podcast is called? The Game Mind the Game? Sorry?

1257
01:01:43,480 --> 01:01:45,480
Speaker 2: Up on Games? Actually decent. Yeah, it's here on Fox

1258
01:01:45,480 --> 01:01:48,360
Speaker 2: Sports Traio. My apologies to the gentleman the host up

1259
01:01:48,400 --> 01:01:52,320
Speaker 2: on Game. But Lebron and Steve Nash were waxing poetic

1260
01:01:52,360 --> 01:01:57,560
Speaker 2: about championships, and Lebron said this, it's funny. I don't know.

1261
01:01:57,920 --> 01:01:59,680
Speaker 9: I don't know why I've discussed so much in our

1262
01:01:59,680 --> 01:02:03,680
Speaker 9: sport and why it is the all be all of everything.

1263
01:02:03,880 --> 01:02:06,080
Speaker 9: You sit here and you tell me, you know, Alan

1264
01:02:06,160 --> 01:02:12,720
Speaker 9: Iverson and Charles Barkley and Steve Nash, you know, you

1265
01:02:12,760 --> 01:02:18,439
Speaker 9: know wasn't unbelievable, Like, oh, they can't be talked about

1266
01:02:18,520 --> 01:02:20,800
Speaker 9: or discussed with these guys, is because this guy one

1267
01:02:20,920 --> 01:02:23,960
Speaker 9: one ring or one two rings or one like it's

1268
01:02:23,800 --> 01:02:25,600
Speaker 9: just it's just weird to me. It's like saying Peyton

1269
01:02:25,680 --> 01:02:29,160
Speaker 9: Manning can't be in the same room with Brady or

1270
01:02:29,240 --> 01:02:31,720
Speaker 9: Mahomes because he only has one ring. They don't never

1271
01:02:31,800 --> 01:02:34,560
Speaker 9: discuss that in the sport. Or telling me that Dan

1272
01:02:34,680 --> 01:02:37,840
Speaker 9: Marino is not the greatest slinger of all time, or

1273
01:02:37,840 --> 01:02:39,560
Speaker 9: he can't be in a room with those guys because

1274
01:02:39,560 --> 01:02:42,880
Speaker 9: he didn't win a championship. They don't discuss those things.

1275
01:02:43,640 --> 01:02:48,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, so there's a lot there. Okay, Yeah, first off,

1276
01:02:48,640 --> 01:02:51,000
Speaker 2: he's saying things that not only are patently untrue, but

1277
01:02:51,000 --> 01:02:54,360
Speaker 2: he's making weird comparisons. Well, first off, Peyton Manning one

1278
01:02:54,440 --> 01:02:58,200
Speaker 2: two not one, right when it comes to Dan Marino

1279
01:02:58,320 --> 01:03:02,760
Speaker 2: being the greatest slinger, And look, nobody's gonna disagree if

1280
01:03:02,760 --> 01:03:04,760
Speaker 2: you say that, then you can make that argument, There's

1281
01:03:04,760 --> 01:03:07,120
Speaker 2: no question about it. A whole lot of people felt

1282
01:03:07,120 --> 01:03:09,200
Speaker 2: for a long time that Charles Barkley was the greatest

1283
01:03:09,200 --> 01:03:13,080
Speaker 2: power forward to ever play, right, Like I've heard that

1284
01:03:13,240 --> 01:03:16,560
Speaker 2: a lot before. Tim Duncan came't, didn't, didn't win a ring.

1285
01:03:17,320 --> 01:03:22,760
Speaker 2: Charles Barkley himself has done interviews with other NBA players.

1286
01:03:22,760 --> 01:03:24,880
Speaker 2: I think it was Stephen Jackson's podcast as a matter

1287
01:03:24,920 --> 01:03:29,320
Speaker 2: of fact, where Charles Barkley said something to the effect of, look, man, like,

1288
01:03:29,400 --> 01:03:31,120
Speaker 2: I'm a Hall of Famer, but I'm in a different

1289
01:03:31,160 --> 01:03:35,160
Speaker 2: wing than those guys meaning Jordan Kobe, some of those

1290
01:03:35,160 --> 01:03:38,040
Speaker 2: guys that have won just a ton of championships during

1291
01:03:38,080 --> 01:03:41,880
Speaker 2: their career, right, and I think that there there's wisdom

1292
01:03:41,920 --> 01:03:44,400
Speaker 2: in that, right Like, it drove him nuts. It drove

1293
01:03:44,480 --> 01:03:46,600
Speaker 2: he said, you know, Carl Malane's great, I was great,

1294
01:03:47,160 --> 01:03:49,520
Speaker 2: but and we're Hall of Famer's no question about it.

1295
01:03:49,560 --> 01:03:51,520
Speaker 2: But we're in a different wing of the Hall of

1296
01:03:51,560 --> 01:03:52,640
Speaker 2: Fame than those guys are.

1297
01:03:53,080 --> 01:03:55,400
Speaker 3: That's a good way I understand that, right, And that's

1298
01:03:55,400 --> 01:03:57,920
Speaker 3: a good way of pretty good. But as for Lebron saying,

1299
01:03:57,960 --> 01:04:00,800
Speaker 3: you know, why do we talk so much about championships, Well,

1300
01:04:00,800 --> 01:04:03,560
Speaker 3: there has to be the great equalizer when you're talking

1301
01:04:03,600 --> 01:04:05,960
Speaker 3: about who's number one or top five or top ten

1302
01:04:06,040 --> 01:04:09,000
Speaker 3: or whatever it is. Yeah, Dan Marino is a great

1303
01:04:09,000 --> 01:04:12,600
Speaker 3: Hall of Fame quarterback, but he does lose a couple

1304
01:04:12,600 --> 01:04:15,360
Speaker 3: of notches for not winning a Super Bowl. That's just

1305
01:04:15,400 --> 01:04:17,560
Speaker 3: the way it is. And yes, in the NBA, we

1306
01:04:17,640 --> 01:04:20,400
Speaker 3: do look at championships. I mean, we don't say Robert

1307
01:04:20,680 --> 01:04:25,600
Speaker 3: or or Steve Kerr is actually better than.

1308
01:04:25,520 --> 01:04:27,640
Speaker 2: The Steve Nash for example.

1309
01:04:27,400 --> 01:04:30,960
Speaker 3: Right exactly, even though Kerr has all those championships. So

1310
01:04:31,120 --> 01:04:33,040
Speaker 3: we don't, you know, we don't go off the deep

1311
01:04:33,160 --> 01:04:36,560
Speaker 3: rails and say something to that effect. But it is

1312
01:04:36,600 --> 01:04:40,120
Speaker 3: the great equalizer when you're talking about Michael Jordan's seven

1313
01:04:40,200 --> 01:04:42,000
Speaker 3: and Lebron's four, and.

1314
01:04:42,000 --> 01:04:44,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think that's that's that's you just got

1315
01:04:44,360 --> 01:04:46,120
Speaker 2: to the crux of it, right, And this is not

1316
01:04:46,320 --> 01:04:51,360
Speaker 2: rocket science, right, Lebron James is now trying to move

1317
01:04:51,400 --> 01:04:54,920
Speaker 2: the goalposts and change what defines the greatest player of

1318
01:04:54,960 --> 01:04:57,880
Speaker 2: all time because he's never gonna win a knows he's

1319
01:04:57,960 --> 01:05:00,680
Speaker 2: not going to win another one, exactly. He knows he's

1320
01:05:00,680 --> 01:05:02,360
Speaker 2: definitely not going to catch Jordan.

1321
01:05:02,640 --> 01:05:05,800
Speaker 3: You know, I was gonna ask Mark Medina this and

1322
01:05:06,160 --> 01:05:08,440
Speaker 3: shave on me for not bringing it up. This whole

1323
01:05:08,600 --> 01:05:11,560
Speaker 3: Laker sale. What does that mean for Lebron? Does that

1324
01:05:11,600 --> 01:05:14,920
Speaker 3: mean Lebron's gone after a year? Does that mean Lebron

1325
01:05:15,080 --> 01:05:17,680
Speaker 3: is going to because remember now it was a sale.

1326
01:05:18,120 --> 01:05:20,720
Speaker 3: I'm thinking Lebron is gonna end up going to Las

1327
01:05:20,800 --> 01:05:23,400
Speaker 3: Vegas and buying his own team. And can he be

1328
01:05:23,440 --> 01:05:27,360
Speaker 3: a player owner, player, coach? Does he have to retire?

1329
01:05:27,680 --> 01:05:31,040
Speaker 3: Can he not be the owner just yet? But we

1330
01:05:31,080 --> 01:05:32,840
Speaker 3: all know he's the real owner. I have so many

1331
01:05:32,920 --> 01:05:36,000
Speaker 3: questions about what's gonna happen Lebron because of this Lakers

1332
01:05:36,000 --> 01:05:36,520
Speaker 3: sale now.

1333
01:05:37,200 --> 01:05:41,000
Speaker 2: So again, like, if you could just be Lebron James

1334
01:05:41,000 --> 01:05:44,120
Speaker 2: and be a great player, yeah, then this would be

1335
01:05:44,200 --> 01:05:46,400
Speaker 2: so much easier. It would be so much easier to

1336
01:05:46,480 --> 01:05:48,920
Speaker 2: just enjoy these last few years of his career where

1337
01:05:48,920 --> 01:05:51,720
Speaker 2: he's still playing really high level basketball. But this stuff

1338
01:05:51,800 --> 01:05:55,000
Speaker 2: is so just transparently so.

1339
01:05:54,960 --> 01:05:59,280
Speaker 3: Worried about his legacating. Yes, and you know nowaday athletes

1340
01:05:59,480 --> 01:06:01,840
Speaker 3: are so worried about their legacy. It never used to

1341
01:06:01,880 --> 01:06:05,280
Speaker 3: be like this, and it really is a turnoff. It's

1342
01:06:05,320 --> 01:06:09,520
Speaker 3: just downright disgusting. Stop worrying about your legacy yet again, dude,

1343
01:06:09,680 --> 01:06:14,200
Speaker 3: you're really good, like good, top five, top three, whatever

1344
01:06:14,240 --> 01:06:16,440
Speaker 3: you want to call it. But I hate when athletes

1345
01:06:16,440 --> 01:06:20,080
Speaker 3: are so worried about their legacy. You know, the NBA

1346
01:06:20,520 --> 01:06:23,000
Speaker 3: just on a little side note, remember they hadn't changed

1347
01:06:23,040 --> 01:06:25,280
Speaker 3: the rules that at the end of the quarters if

1348
01:06:25,320 --> 01:06:27,919
Speaker 3: you threw up a full court shot, that didn't count

1349
01:06:27,960 --> 01:06:31,200
Speaker 3: as a shot attempt because the players stopped doing it

1350
01:06:31,240 --> 01:06:35,080
Speaker 3: because they didn't want to exactly. I mean, you talk

1351
01:06:35,160 --> 01:06:39,280
Speaker 3: about just being you know, just ridiculous that they had

1352
01:06:39,280 --> 01:06:42,360
Speaker 3: to do something like that. Now with the athletes worry

1353
01:06:42,440 --> 01:06:45,560
Speaker 3: so much more about their stats and and and those

1354
01:06:45,600 --> 01:06:47,360
Speaker 3: type of things, and I think it's such a turnoff

1355
01:06:47,360 --> 01:06:48,600
Speaker 3: for the fans to be honest.

1356
01:06:48,400 --> 01:06:51,240
Speaker 2: And so and listen, like the rings argument again, like

1357
01:06:51,400 --> 01:06:55,480
Speaker 2: Lebron has made the opposite argument by how he's conducted

1358
01:06:55,560 --> 01:06:59,360
Speaker 2: himself throughout his career. But and I sent you this video,

1359
01:06:59,440 --> 01:07:01,400
Speaker 2: but I don't know. This must have been a couple

1360
01:07:01,440 --> 01:07:04,160
Speaker 2: of years ago. He was doing maybe it was the

1361
01:07:04,160 --> 01:07:10,240
Speaker 2: Barbershop or whatever, that podcast, and he was watching film

1362
01:07:10,600 --> 01:07:15,160
Speaker 2: of him winning the championship with Cleveland when they beat

1363
01:07:15,200 --> 01:07:21,200
Speaker 2: Golden State and they win, and he says, you know,

1364
01:07:21,320 --> 01:07:23,640
Speaker 2: I went back and I watched that film and I

1365
01:07:23,760 --> 01:07:28,120
Speaker 2: realized after that game seven that that right there made

1366
01:07:28,160 --> 01:07:29,640
Speaker 2: me the greatest player of all time.

1367
01:07:29,680 --> 01:07:31,600
Speaker 3: I remember that was the quote.

1368
01:07:32,560 --> 01:07:34,040
Speaker 2: He was, like, you know, I watched it, Like man,

1369
01:07:34,120 --> 01:07:37,400
Speaker 2: that one was special. You're the best basketball player of

1370
01:07:37,440 --> 01:07:41,520
Speaker 2: all time. Why, dude, championships don't matter? Like what, championships

1371
01:07:41,560 --> 01:07:45,520
Speaker 2: are overrated? Rings are overrated. If rings are overrated, then

1372
01:07:45,640 --> 01:07:48,720
Speaker 2: then why did you want Anthony Davis? And why did

1373
01:07:48,760 --> 01:07:51,320
Speaker 2: you take your talents to South Beach And why did

1374
01:07:51,320 --> 01:07:54,200
Speaker 2: you then go back to Cleveland with Kyrie Irving? And

1375
01:07:54,240 --> 01:07:57,320
Speaker 2: why have you manufactured trying to get all these superstars there?

1376
01:07:58,200 --> 01:08:02,840
Speaker 2: I mean, if rings are not like an ultimate metric

1377
01:08:03,440 --> 01:08:05,960
Speaker 2: for greatest of all time and all this other kind

1378
01:08:05,960 --> 01:08:08,760
Speaker 2: of stuff, and all of a sudden, everything's a team win.

1379
01:08:09,040 --> 01:08:11,200
Speaker 2: That's another thing that he's saying. But a lot of

1380
01:08:11,200 --> 01:08:13,000
Speaker 2: times he's like, man, I'm so glad, he said, I'm

1381
01:08:13,000 --> 01:08:15,160
Speaker 2: so glad I was able to bring one to Cleveland,

1382
01:08:15,360 --> 01:08:17,960
Speaker 2: right right, there's a lot of people on that team, man,

1383
01:08:18,479 --> 01:08:20,360
Speaker 2: Tyrie hit a big three five.

1384
01:08:21,479 --> 01:08:22,160
Speaker 3: Yeah exactly.

1385
01:08:22,280 --> 01:08:24,400
Speaker 2: And also Draymond Green helped you out a lot by

1386
01:08:24,400 --> 01:08:27,559
Speaker 2: getting that tea. You might be knocked out of that game.

1387
01:08:27,800 --> 01:08:30,120
Speaker 3: He moved the golf post. That's exactly what he's doing.

1388
01:08:30,200 --> 01:08:31,880
Speaker 3: He wants to be He knows he's never going to

1389
01:08:31,920 --> 01:08:36,200
Speaker 3: win another championship, so he's tried to Yeah, it is

1390
01:08:36,320 --> 01:08:37,960
Speaker 3: and you know, I got to tell you, I've never

1391
01:08:37,960 --> 01:08:42,400
Speaker 3: seen a bigger superstar in any sport, and that's more condescending,

1392
01:08:42,880 --> 01:08:45,759
Speaker 3: and you know, has more of an agenda than somebody

1393
01:08:45,840 --> 01:08:46,759
Speaker 3: like Lebron James.

1394
01:08:47,000 --> 01:08:48,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just I wish he did not think about

1395
01:08:48,920 --> 01:08:51,840
Speaker 2: himself so much. Let everybody else tell you you're great.

1396
01:08:51,960 --> 01:08:55,840
Speaker 2: That's fine, but don't be so. Don't you're walking around

1397
01:08:55,840 --> 01:08:58,880
Speaker 2: on your own eggshells, like trying to hold onto your

1398
01:08:58,880 --> 01:09:02,320
Speaker 2: own legacy in your own dude. Just you're great, but

1399
01:09:02,439 --> 01:09:05,639
Speaker 2: there's always going to be somebody better in life than you.

1400
01:09:05,800 --> 01:09:07,519
Speaker 2: That's just the way it is. You're always going to

1401
01:09:07,600 --> 01:09:10,599
Speaker 2: be looking up at someone and you, my friend, are

1402
01:09:10,640 --> 01:09:13,559
Speaker 2: always going to be looking up at Michael Jeffrey George,

1403
01:09:13,720 --> 01:09:15,160
Speaker 2: and we are going to look over.

1404
01:09:15,320 --> 01:09:18,000
Speaker 3: You think somebody like Wemby will have a better career

1405
01:09:18,000 --> 01:09:19,760
Speaker 3: than Lebron or it's too wait for that now.

1406
01:09:19,840 --> 01:09:22,080
Speaker 2: No, I don't think so. I just think the NBA

1407
01:09:22,200 --> 01:09:26,720
Speaker 2: is different now and and he's just we'll see what

1408
01:09:26,720 --> 01:09:29,200
Speaker 2: happens in this offseason. Like we haven't talked about the

1409
01:09:29,320 --> 01:09:30,960
Speaker 2: free agency and all, we got plenty of time to

1410
01:09:30,960 --> 01:09:31,080
Speaker 2: do it.

1411
01:09:31,160 --> 01:09:33,559
Speaker 3: Let's get super maybe or somebody.

1412
01:09:33,640 --> 01:09:36,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's let him get into the NBA first before

1413
01:09:36,720 --> 01:09:37,439
Speaker 2: we start doing that.

1414
01:09:37,520 --> 01:09:40,720
Speaker 6: Steve, what's crazy good about the Lebron career is that

1415
01:09:40,800 --> 01:09:44,680
Speaker 6: he's this good, this late in the Yes, people retired

1416
01:09:45,160 --> 01:09:48,360
Speaker 6: years before this age. That's what's amazing, that's for sure.

1417
01:09:48,640 --> 01:09:51,040
Speaker 6: The comment though, and what you're talking about, it does

1418
01:09:51,160 --> 01:09:54,200
Speaker 6: remind me of when Rob Manford running Major League Baseball.

1419
01:09:54,240 --> 01:09:56,360
Speaker 6: After the Houston cheating and what to do with the

1420
01:09:56,360 --> 01:09:59,679
Speaker 6: World Series Trophyley calls all this about a piece of metal.

1421
01:10:00,360 --> 01:10:01,479
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1422
01:10:01,600 --> 01:10:04,719
Speaker 6: Wait, wait, you're the commissioner that hands out the trophy.

1423
01:10:04,760 --> 01:10:07,519
Speaker 6: This is why the people play in your league. How

1424
01:10:07,520 --> 01:10:10,200
Speaker 6: could you possibly say that? And as far as the

1425
01:10:10,240 --> 01:10:13,760
Speaker 6: Lakers maybe not having the team with Lebron to win

1426
01:10:14,000 --> 01:10:18,120
Speaker 6: another title, he's been in LA seven years. They won

1427
01:10:18,160 --> 01:10:20,760
Speaker 6: the title in twenty twenty, plus a couple of years

1428
01:10:20,800 --> 01:10:23,599
Speaker 6: ago they got swept by Denver in the conference finals.

1429
01:10:23,640 --> 01:10:27,600
Speaker 6: Aside from that, that's five other seasons in LA. The

1430
01:10:27,680 --> 01:10:30,320
Speaker 6: Lakers have either been out first round or missed the

1431
01:10:30,400 --> 01:10:35,200
Speaker 6: playoffs entirely in five of his seven years in LA.

1432
01:10:35,360 --> 01:10:37,800
Speaker 3: Just for the record, beautiful.

1433
01:10:37,360 --> 01:10:41,000
Speaker 6: Facts, Washington is leading the LA Dodgers seven to three

1434
01:10:41,200 --> 01:10:43,439
Speaker 6: in the bottom of the ninth five home runs for

1435
01:10:43,560 --> 01:10:46,439
Speaker 6: the Nationals. Already, the Padres won five to one over

1436
01:10:46,520 --> 01:10:49,920
Speaker 6: Kansas City, and San Francisco edge Boston three to two.

1437
01:10:50,360 --> 01:10:52,760
Speaker 6: The other late game tonight has the Guardians, who were

1438
01:10:52,840 --> 01:10:55,040
Speaker 6: up four to nothing early now leading four to two

1439
01:10:55,120 --> 01:10:57,320
Speaker 6: at the A's in the top of the ninth wins

1440
01:10:57,320 --> 01:11:01,040
Speaker 6: for Arizona and the Angels. The Mets had lost seven

1441
01:11:01,080 --> 01:11:03,559
Speaker 6: in a row but got to win at Philadelphia finally

1442
01:11:03,640 --> 01:11:06,599
Speaker 6: eleven to four. They're tied to Thank Arney Man. I

1443
01:11:06,600 --> 01:11:08,760
Speaker 6: want to say, Arnie, thank you for your Mets man.

1444
01:11:08,800 --> 01:11:09,880
Speaker 6: My braves needed you.

1445
01:11:09,920 --> 01:11:11,880
Speaker 2: Guys. We did really appreciate that.

1446
01:11:12,000 --> 01:11:14,360
Speaker 6: Sweet So Arnie's on the air and one of his

1447
01:11:14,439 --> 01:11:15,839
Speaker 6: teams won ton.

1448
01:11:15,720 --> 01:11:20,479
Speaker 3: Finally, we didn't get out till eleven, so yeah, yeah,

1449
01:11:21,160 --> 01:11:22,120
Speaker 3: that was over before.

1450
01:11:22,200 --> 01:11:25,360
Speaker 6: Yeah, okay, Meds and Phillies are tied for first in

1451
01:11:25,400 --> 01:11:28,280
Speaker 6: the NL East. Wins for the Yankees and the Cubs.

1452
01:11:28,280 --> 01:11:30,719
Speaker 6: Saint Louis won its fifth straight to come back eleven

1453
01:11:30,760 --> 01:11:33,679
Speaker 6: inning win over the Red six to five. College World

1454
01:11:33,720 --> 01:11:36,720
Speaker 6: Series A best of three finals started with LSU's one

1455
01:11:36,800 --> 01:11:40,960
Speaker 6: nothing win against Coastal Carolina. US men's soccer plays against

1456
01:11:40,960 --> 01:11:44,240
Speaker 6: Sunday on Fox TV against Haiti, The Gold Cup tournaments

1457
01:11:44,320 --> 01:11:47,400
Speaker 6: is on Fox and FS one. Curis out tonight scored

1458
01:11:47,439 --> 01:11:50,120
Speaker 6: late to tie Canada one one. In the FIFA Club

1459
01:11:50,200 --> 01:11:53,479
Speaker 6: World Cup, Real Madrid plays Sunday in Charlotte against Pachuca.

1460
01:11:53,520 --> 01:11:55,839
Speaker 6: The Club World Cup is a thirty two team tourney.

1461
01:11:55,880 --> 01:11:58,439
Speaker 6: The US is hosting kind of a dry run with

1462
01:11:59,080 --> 01:12:02,040
Speaker 6: hosting such a big thing before the actual World Cup

1463
01:12:02,040 --> 01:12:05,479
Speaker 6: with national teams is here mostly in the US next summer.

1464
01:12:05,520 --> 01:12:07,719
Speaker 6: There was a game last Sunday in this Club World

1465
01:12:07,720 --> 01:12:10,559
Speaker 6: Cup at the Rosewall, eighty thousand in attendance for Paris

1466
01:12:10,680 --> 01:12:13,360
Speaker 6: and Jermain, the European champs, to win four nothing over

1467
01:12:13,640 --> 01:12:17,000
Speaker 6: Atletico Madrid. The tournament opener was in Miami. The final

1468
01:12:17,040 --> 01:12:19,840
Speaker 6: will be in New Jersey. The next IndyCar Race on

1469
01:12:19,920 --> 01:12:23,599
Speaker 6: Fox TV is Sunday at Road America in Wisconsin. Denny

1470
01:12:23,640 --> 01:12:26,559
Speaker 6: Hamlin ere in the poll for Sunday's NASCAR event at Pocono.

1471
01:12:26,680 --> 01:12:29,559
Speaker 6: Hamlin has won there a record seven times in his career.

1472
01:12:29,840 --> 01:12:32,920
Speaker 6: Tommy Fleetwood lead to the Travelers by three strokes. Jason

1473
01:12:33,000 --> 01:12:35,800
Speaker 6: Day is five back. Scottie Scheffler shot a third round

1474
01:12:35,840 --> 01:12:37,880
Speaker 6: sixty two and fell to a tie for eighth with

1475
01:12:38,040 --> 01:12:41,599
Speaker 6: Roy McElroy. And others. Justin Thomas shot seventy three. He's

1476
01:12:41,640 --> 01:12:45,880
Speaker 6: now tied for fourteenth place. UFC fighter John Jones retired.

1477
01:12:45,960 --> 01:12:49,559
Speaker 6: He went sixteen to zero in title bouts WNBA wins

1478
01:12:49,560 --> 01:12:52,719
Speaker 6: for Minnesota and Phoenix. The NBA has a Game seven

1479
01:12:52,720 --> 01:12:57,040
Speaker 6: of the Final Sunday, Indiana at Oklahoma City. We haven't

1480
01:12:57,080 --> 01:13:01,240
Speaker 6: had a finals go to a game seven since twenty sixteen,

1481
01:13:01,320 --> 01:13:03,880
Speaker 6: when the Cavaliers came back from three games to one

1482
01:13:04,360 --> 01:13:05,639
Speaker 6: to defeat Golden State.

1483
01:13:07,080 --> 01:13:07,760
Speaker 2: I looked it up.

1484
01:13:08,000 --> 01:13:12,839
Speaker 6: The Game seven TV audience twenty sixteen was over thirty

1485
01:13:13,120 --> 01:13:14,560
Speaker 6: million viewers.

1486
01:13:14,600 --> 01:13:15,960
Speaker 3: Wow, get out of here.

1487
01:13:16,040 --> 01:13:18,640
Speaker 6: They would be happy with a third of that Tomorrow.

1488
01:13:18,400 --> 01:13:21,000
Speaker 3: They're not getting thirty mili. I promise you that or

1489
01:13:21,120 --> 01:13:24,840
Speaker 3: ten maybe. Geez wow, Thank you, Steve.

1490
01:13:24,920 --> 01:13:28,240
Speaker 2: We'll come back, raise and we'll talk more with Steve Disaga.

1491
01:13:28,320 --> 01:13:31,160
Speaker 2: On the other side, he's got a lot more for

1492
01:13:31,360 --> 01:13:35,679
Speaker 2: us here on Fox Sports Radio. Yeah. The longevity argument

1493
01:13:35,680 --> 01:13:38,800
Speaker 2: that he made is right about Lebron. It is very

1494
01:13:38,800 --> 01:13:41,400
Speaker 2: impressive how long he's been doing what he's been doing.

1495
01:13:41,479 --> 01:13:43,280
Speaker 2: I just wish he'd let us be impressed with him

1496
01:13:43,320 --> 01:13:48,880
Speaker 2: and not make it hard by saying just just you

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Speaker 2: don't have to comment man like, dude, just you're you're

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Speaker 2: no worst showing pull up your zipper like, no.

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Speaker 3: Worse than the girl. Let you know she's the best

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01:13:57,720 --> 01:13:58,599
Speaker 3: looking in the school.

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Speaker 2: You know that, right, that's the safety exactly right. The

1502
01:14:01,439 --> 01:14:03,280
Speaker 2: best looking one in the school doesn't have to tell

1503
01:14:03,360 --> 01:14:07,360
Speaker 2: you because you have eyes. That's a basketball player of

1504
01:14:07,439 --> 01:14:09,760
Speaker 2: all time. Yeah, he was the one that wore white

1505
01:14:09,760 --> 01:14:12,680
Speaker 2: and red and black. That's and he also played for

1506
01:14:12,680 --> 01:14:15,719
Speaker 2: the Wizards, which you know probably didn't need to happen,

1507
01:14:15,800 --> 01:14:17,240
Speaker 2: but it did. When we come back, a guy who

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01:14:17,240 --> 01:14:20,320
Speaker 2: did not play with the Washington Wizards, but he probably

1509
01:14:20,360 --> 01:14:23,160
Speaker 2: could have had a better shooting percentage than half their starters. Now,

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01:14:23,479 --> 01:14:25,880
Speaker 2: Steve Disager will have the dis segment when we come back.

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Speaker 2: He's Arnie Spaniard. I'm Jason Martin. This is Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back. Shortly after the show, the podcast will go up.

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Speaker 2: If you missed any of today's show. If you missed

1514
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Speaker 2: our one, you miss Mark Madena, our NBA insider, great

1515
01:14:38,680 --> 01:14:40,760
Speaker 2: conversation with him. We'll get you all set up for

1516
01:14:40,800 --> 01:14:42,519
Speaker 2: Game seven. But all you gotta do is check out

1517
01:14:42,520 --> 01:14:45,360
Speaker 2: that podcast. Search Fox Sports Radio wherever you get your cast.

1518
01:14:45,439 --> 01:14:49,000
Speaker 2: Be sure to follow review rated five stars. That's going

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1520
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Speaker 2: Sports Radio wherever you get your podcast, you'll see today's

1521
01:14:53,240 --> 01:14:58,519
Speaker 2: show posted. Right after we get off the air. It

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01:14:58,600 --> 01:15:01,280
Speaker 2: is time to bring in our good friend Steve Desager

1523
01:15:01,360 --> 01:15:04,320
Speaker 2: for the extended update that we like to call at

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01:15:04,400 --> 01:15:08,759
Speaker 2: least when Aaron's not here the segment Steve, what you got.

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Speaker 6: We'll get the last add on the NBA TV ratings

1526
01:15:11,160 --> 01:15:13,960
Speaker 6: in a moment. Everything's final in baseball now is Cleveland

1527
01:15:14,000 --> 01:15:16,480
Speaker 6: has won four to two over the A's in Sacramento,

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01:15:16,560 --> 01:15:19,559
Speaker 6: and Washington beat the Dodgers seven to three. As far

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01:15:19,640 --> 01:15:23,240
Speaker 6: as these NBA Finals and the TV ratings, the last

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01:15:23,560 --> 01:15:26,680
Speaker 6: ratings published were from the Monday game, which was just

1531
01:15:26,720 --> 01:15:29,240
Speaker 6: over nine and a half million viewers for Game five,

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01:15:29,920 --> 01:15:33,000
Speaker 6: which was actually the largest audience they've had so far

1533
01:15:33,160 --> 01:15:36,400
Speaker 6: in the series to that point through five games, averaging

1534
01:15:36,520 --> 01:15:39,880
Speaker 6: under nine point two million viewers on ABC, down almost

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01:15:39,880 --> 01:15:42,040
Speaker 6: twenty percent from last year's finals.

1536
01:15:42,320 --> 01:15:42,799
Speaker 3: Wow.

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01:15:42,840 --> 01:15:47,080
Speaker 6: Needless to say, it's the lowest audience they've had for

1538
01:15:47,160 --> 01:15:50,240
Speaker 6: a Game five of the NBA Finals essentially ever since

1539
01:15:50,280 --> 01:15:53,559
Speaker 6: the nineteen eighties, when Nielsen TV ratings people went to

1540
01:15:53,600 --> 01:15:56,839
Speaker 6: a people meetia an electronic device to get the ratings

1541
01:15:57,320 --> 01:16:00,760
Speaker 6: instead of you actually filling out a diary. So you know,

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01:16:00,920 --> 01:16:06,040
Speaker 6: it's it's historically low. However, keep it in context. Viewing

1543
01:16:06,080 --> 01:16:10,080
Speaker 6: of traditional TV as a whole is down, yeah, and

1544
01:16:10,200 --> 01:16:12,920
Speaker 6: down thirteen percent. I've read from just a year ago.

1545
01:16:13,040 --> 01:16:16,640
Speaker 6: It's not doing well in general. And so in the

1546
01:16:16,720 --> 01:16:20,000
Speaker 6: last month any TV channel. The highest rating for anything

1547
01:16:20,040 --> 01:16:23,880
Speaker 6: on any TV channel these NBA finals so far. So

1548
01:16:24,000 --> 01:16:25,000
Speaker 6: put it in contra.

1549
01:16:24,840 --> 01:16:27,000
Speaker 3: We look at the ratings from like sitcoms in the

1550
01:16:27,040 --> 01:16:29,360
Speaker 3: seventies and eighties. It's ridicul the roof.

1551
01:16:29,880 --> 01:16:31,479
Speaker 6: It's thirty million for Happy Days.

1552
01:16:31,720 --> 01:16:37,120
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, weir Now you're competing with elsbith Yeah.

1553
01:16:37,200 --> 01:16:40,719
Speaker 3: I mean seriously, there was like ten or twenty shows

1554
01:16:40,720 --> 01:16:42,479
Speaker 3: that those type of ratings. It was crazy.

1555
01:16:42,680 --> 01:16:45,400
Speaker 6: And more to the point, from the NBA's perspective, they've

1556
01:16:45,439 --> 01:16:48,599
Speaker 6: already signed their new TV contract it starts next year,

1557
01:16:48,640 --> 01:16:51,840
Speaker 6: the one without TNT, the one that adds Amazon, the

1558
01:16:51,880 --> 01:16:53,719
Speaker 6: one that's going to be getting them close to seven

1559
01:16:53,800 --> 01:16:56,680
Speaker 6: billion a year total for the next eleven years. So

1560
01:16:56,760 --> 01:16:59,880
Speaker 6: I'm not saying it's nothing, but it is notable when

1561
01:17:00,040 --> 01:17:04,559
Speaker 6: something this historically low is happening. The Oklahoma City, Indiana Series.

1562
01:17:04,640 --> 01:17:08,120
Speaker 6: Doesn't mean nobody's watching Game seven tomorrow. And by the way,

1563
01:17:08,560 --> 01:17:11,479
Speaker 6: don't use the sentence nobody watched the finals. I repeat,

1564
01:17:11,520 --> 01:17:14,840
Speaker 6: You're getting three times the audience of any other TV

1565
01:17:14,960 --> 01:17:17,439
Speaker 6: program in the last month on any other channel.

1566
01:17:17,640 --> 01:17:19,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, but more people will watch the NFL Draft than

1567
01:17:19,880 --> 01:17:20,960
Speaker 3: will watch the game.

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01:17:21,000 --> 01:17:24,720
Speaker 6: Sound yeah, NFL anything, if there's NFL to be, you know,

1569
01:17:24,760 --> 01:17:28,040
Speaker 6: a paint drawing special. I'm sure of your colors and logos.

1570
01:17:28,040 --> 01:17:30,360
Speaker 6: I'm sure that would get some sort of audience as well.

1571
01:17:30,840 --> 01:17:33,519
Speaker 6: Those Mets did end the losing streak of seven games

1572
01:17:33,520 --> 01:17:36,800
Speaker 6: tonight one at Philadelphia. This was the dominant game on

1573
01:17:36,880 --> 01:17:39,479
Speaker 6: Fox TV tonight, eleven to four of the final. And

1574
01:17:39,520 --> 01:17:41,559
Speaker 6: the thing is it was the first game in MLB

1575
01:17:41,760 --> 01:17:45,559
Speaker 6: history to have seven home runs or more, but all

1576
01:17:45,640 --> 01:17:49,160
Speaker 6: of them being solo shots by the same team, because

1577
01:17:49,160 --> 01:17:51,560
Speaker 6: the Mets hit a record tying seven.

1578
01:17:52,240 --> 01:17:55,519
Speaker 3: Guys on base first starting without without Dave Kingman hitting

1579
01:17:55,520 --> 01:17:55,960
Speaker 3: any of them.

1580
01:17:56,000 --> 01:17:59,080
Speaker 6: How about that, Dave Kingman, you could use George Foster

1581
01:17:59,200 --> 01:18:02,439
Speaker 6: in the lineup, Yes, George Foster. The Yankees game today

1582
01:18:02,560 --> 01:18:05,599
Speaker 6: was a nine to nothing final over Baltimore and Clark Schmidt.

1583
01:18:05,640 --> 01:18:08,800
Speaker 6: The winning pitcher through seven no hit innings and came

1584
01:18:08,840 --> 01:18:11,680
Speaker 6: out one hundred three pitches. He had walked to. The

1585
01:18:11,760 --> 01:18:14,920
Speaker 6: Yankees hit four solo homers the first five innings. The

1586
01:18:14,960 --> 01:18:17,320
Speaker 6: Orioles wound up with just one hit one for twenty

1587
01:18:17,320 --> 01:18:20,920
Speaker 6: eight at the plate. Baltimore playscatcher Adlee Rushman on the

1588
01:18:20,960 --> 01:18:24,320
Speaker 6: injured list with a strained oblique il usage for the

1589
01:18:24,360 --> 01:18:27,840
Speaker 6: Atlanta Braves. His pitcher Chris Sale hurt this week is

1590
01:18:27,920 --> 01:18:31,519
Speaker 6: on the IL with a fractured rib cage. Atlanta one

1591
01:18:31,520 --> 01:18:35,040
Speaker 6: at Miami seven nothing. Ronald ocunyan RBI double. He also

1592
01:18:35,080 --> 01:18:38,240
Speaker 6: had two walks, three runs scored. He's batting three ninety one.

1593
01:18:39,000 --> 01:18:41,439
Speaker 6: Texas only had four hits tonight, but still one at

1594
01:18:41,479 --> 01:18:44,920
Speaker 6: Pittsburgh three to two. Kamar Rocker got the win. Mitch

1595
01:18:45,000 --> 01:18:48,000
Speaker 6: Keller at one to ten took the loss for the Pirates,

1596
01:18:48,360 --> 01:18:51,000
Speaker 6: and we had another Cal Raleigh home run today for

1597
01:18:51,120 --> 01:18:53,639
Speaker 6: Seattle in the game at Wrigley Field. The Cubs beat

1598
01:18:53,680 --> 01:18:56,479
Speaker 6: the Mariners ten to seven, but cow Raley hit his

1599
01:18:56,600 --> 01:19:01,439
Speaker 6: thirtieth home run of the season. The first guy who's

1600
01:19:01,479 --> 01:19:04,800
Speaker 6: primarily a catcher to hit thirty home runs before All

1601
01:19:04,840 --> 01:19:08,360
Speaker 6: Star Break the record was Johnny bench twenty eight before

1602
01:19:08,400 --> 01:19:11,639
Speaker 6: the All Star Break of nineteen seventy. He's the first

1603
01:19:11,640 --> 01:19:14,680
Speaker 6: switch hitter ever to have thirty home runs before the

1604
01:19:14,720 --> 01:19:17,839
Speaker 6: All Star break as well. Saint Louis with a comeback

1605
01:19:17,920 --> 01:19:21,280
Speaker 6: win in eleven atnings, edging the Reds six to five

1606
01:19:21,320 --> 01:19:23,760
Speaker 6: as the Reds with runners in scoring position went one

1607
01:19:23,840 --> 01:19:27,559
Speaker 6: for fifteen. Nolan Arenado the tying solo homer in the

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01:19:27,560 --> 01:19:30,599
Speaker 6: bottom of the ninth. Five straight wins for Saint Louis

1609
01:19:30,640 --> 01:19:33,760
Speaker 6: wins for the Angels in Arizona tonight. That Arizona win

1610
01:19:33,920 --> 01:19:37,920
Speaker 6: was at Colorado. Yes, they lost again. Rocky seventeen and sixty.

1611
01:19:37,640 --> 01:19:42,920
Speaker 2: Beck, Wow, I that's that record, man, seventeen sixties. I'm

1612
01:19:42,920 --> 01:19:45,080
Speaker 2: not good at MAP, but they're not good at baseball.

1613
01:19:45,360 --> 01:19:47,840
Speaker 2: We'll come back the third hour of the program. We'll

1614
01:19:47,880 --> 01:19:49,960
Speaker 2: reset a lot of what we've already talked about when

1615
01:19:49,960 --> 01:19:52,240
Speaker 2: it goes to Game seven. We haven't talked about the

1616
01:19:52,240 --> 01:19:54,200
Speaker 2: broadcast yet. We promised we were going to do it

1617
01:19:54,240 --> 01:19:56,040
Speaker 2: and then we haven't done it. So what are we

1618
01:19:56,120 --> 01:19:57,960
Speaker 2: expecting from the TV coverage?

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01:19:59,320 --> 01:20:03,120
Speaker 1: Don't listening? Fox Sports Radio Radio, what's going on?

1620
01:20:03,400 --> 01:20:07,360
Speaker 2: Welcome back our number three here, Fox Sports Radio. Fox

1621
01:20:07,400 --> 01:20:13,760
Speaker 2: Sports Saturday. We are live in the Fox Sports Radio studios.

1622
01:20:14,720 --> 01:20:19,479
Speaker 2: Bye we I mean him. He's Arnie Spaniard at Stinking

1623
01:20:19,560 --> 01:20:23,840
Speaker 2: Genius one. Don't think he is Stinking Genius two, three, four, five, six, seven,

1624
01:20:23,880 --> 01:20:28,280
Speaker 2: eight ten. He is Stinking Genius one. So anybody that

1625
01:20:28,400 --> 01:20:32,080
Speaker 2: then does it afterwards is just a copycat of Arnie Spaniard.

1626
01:20:32,080 --> 01:20:35,240
Speaker 2: I'm Jason Martin at JAMI Radio aeron Torres with the

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01:20:35,240 --> 01:20:37,439
Speaker 2: weekend off. He'll be back with me next week, of course.

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01:20:38,400 --> 01:20:40,519
Speaker 2: All right, Arnie Game seven. We've talked about it from

1629
01:20:40,560 --> 01:20:43,240
Speaker 2: seven seventeen thousand different angles, of course, and we have

1630
01:20:43,320 --> 01:20:45,479
Speaker 2: Mark Medina. If you missed any part of our show,

1631
01:20:45,520 --> 01:20:49,120
Speaker 2: podcast at wherever you get your podcasts, and you can

1632
01:20:49,160 --> 01:20:51,639
Speaker 2: hear that conversation from the first hour of the program.

1633
01:20:51,680 --> 01:20:55,599
Speaker 2: He picked Oklahoma City. We will predict it officially at

1634
01:20:55,600 --> 01:20:57,320
Speaker 2: the end of this show, but I wanted to take

1635
01:20:57,360 --> 01:21:02,360
Speaker 2: in a bit of a different direction. ESPN's they've they've

1636
01:21:02,439 --> 01:21:06,960
Speaker 2: been criticized a bit, yes during during this finals, and

1637
01:21:07,120 --> 01:21:09,640
Speaker 2: you know, I haven't really talked to you since I

1638
01:21:09,680 --> 01:21:11,240
Speaker 2: don't know if it was early in the playoffs. I think

1639
01:21:11,200 --> 01:21:14,519
Speaker 2: it's probably early in the playoffs when we uh host

1640
01:21:14,560 --> 01:21:17,840
Speaker 2: it together. But I'm looking at all of it and

1641
01:21:18,880 --> 01:21:21,120
Speaker 2: I have a hard time disagreeing with a lot of

1642
01:21:21,160 --> 01:21:24,960
Speaker 2: the critique. What they do is difficult. I've done it before,

1643
01:21:25,040 --> 01:21:28,680
Speaker 2: not on the NBA level, but uh, you know, television

1644
01:21:28,720 --> 01:21:31,880
Speaker 2: is not easy. It's not It's not as easy as

1645
01:21:31,880 --> 01:21:34,200
Speaker 2: it appears for everyone that wants to hate on it.

1646
01:21:34,439 --> 01:21:36,400
Speaker 2: So we could say that off the top. But at

1647
01:21:36,400 --> 01:21:39,280
Speaker 2: the same time, Mike Breen is as good as it gets.

1648
01:21:40,240 --> 01:21:43,559
Speaker 2: He's phenomenal. The rest of that booth is not good.

1649
01:21:44,080 --> 01:21:44,840
Speaker 2: Tell me I'm wrong.

1650
01:21:46,439 --> 01:21:49,360
Speaker 3: I know you're not wrong one, but two, I never

1651
01:21:49,479 --> 01:21:54,640
Speaker 3: let the broadcast broadcast crew ruin the game for me.

1652
01:21:54,800 --> 01:21:57,360
Speaker 3: I'm going to listen, and yeah, I'll yell at the

1653
01:21:57,400 --> 01:21:59,720
Speaker 3: TV once in a while to say that's ridiculous or

1654
01:21:59,760 --> 01:22:02,599
Speaker 3: blah blah blah. I don't let them ruin the game

1655
01:22:02,600 --> 01:22:04,559
Speaker 3: for me. But you are right about that. It's not

1656
01:22:04,640 --> 01:22:08,040
Speaker 3: a very good broadcast grew, but people will defend it till,

1657
01:22:08,800 --> 01:22:11,120
Speaker 3: you know, till the day they die for whatever reason.

1658
01:22:11,200 --> 01:22:15,479
Speaker 3: You can criticize people like that, so you know they'll

1659
01:22:15,520 --> 01:22:17,800
Speaker 3: just say, hey, we enjoy it, and they'll keep it

1660
01:22:17,840 --> 01:22:20,519
Speaker 3: that way. But I do agree with you. I don't

1661
01:22:20,560 --> 01:22:23,840
Speaker 3: think it is very good, and you know, ESPN should

1662
01:22:23,880 --> 01:22:26,280
Speaker 3: do better. They're you know, they're not new at the game.

1663
01:22:26,320 --> 01:22:28,439
Speaker 3: I can understand if they're new at the game, and

1664
01:22:28,560 --> 01:22:30,080
Speaker 3: you know it's the first time get it. You know,

1665
01:22:30,120 --> 01:22:33,439
Speaker 3: it's like when we Apple TV got sports for the

1666
01:22:33,439 --> 01:22:36,880
Speaker 3: first time and we were critical of it, but we understood.

1667
01:22:36,960 --> 01:22:39,680
Speaker 3: But they're they're much better than this. I don't know

1668
01:22:39,720 --> 01:22:41,760
Speaker 3: what they're doing, if it's cost cutting or what, but

1669
01:22:41,800 --> 01:22:45,280
Speaker 3: they're They've gotten a lot of criticism for it, no

1670
01:22:45,320 --> 01:22:46,040
Speaker 3: doubt about that.

1671
01:22:46,800 --> 01:22:50,640
Speaker 2: Yeah. So, and like, I mean, I've always kind of

1672
01:22:50,720 --> 01:22:57,080
Speaker 2: been I haven't been like I've never really understood quite

1673
01:22:57,160 --> 01:23:00,519
Speaker 2: why Doris Burk has been seeing the way she's been scene.

1674
01:23:00,640 --> 01:23:03,240
Speaker 2: Not that she's bad, but like she was talked about

1675
01:23:03,880 --> 01:23:07,680
Speaker 2: in rarefied air terms when she was doing sideline interviews

1676
01:23:08,320 --> 01:23:11,080
Speaker 2: and doing post games and all this other kind of stuff,

1677
01:23:11,080 --> 01:23:13,280
Speaker 2: and it's like, I mean, she's fine, but I haven't

1678
01:23:13,280 --> 01:23:17,040
Speaker 2: really understood why there's been like such a fascination with her.

1679
01:23:17,160 --> 01:23:18,760
Speaker 2: It's about it, that's theout the best way. I not

1680
01:23:18,800 --> 01:23:21,280
Speaker 2: to say it, not that she's bad at that job,

1681
01:23:21,360 --> 01:23:23,880
Speaker 2: but that there was nothing particularly stand out about her.

1682
01:23:23,920 --> 01:23:27,040
Speaker 2: There was nothing as special as I was told, like

1683
01:23:27,080 --> 01:23:29,120
Speaker 2: they were repeatedly how great she was.

1684
01:23:29,320 --> 01:23:33,240
Speaker 3: They were gonna can her off the broadcast. That's why

1685
01:23:33,280 --> 01:23:35,719
Speaker 3: everybody was coming into her in defense. I think Richard

1686
01:23:35,840 --> 01:23:37,679
Speaker 3: Jefferson was one that come to defense.

1687
01:23:38,880 --> 01:23:41,080
Speaker 2: Look, well he can, he can come to her defense

1688
01:23:41,120 --> 01:23:44,479
Speaker 2: because he's worse than she is. I mean, I'm gonna

1689
01:23:44,479 --> 01:23:47,679
Speaker 2: Bena be real like he just there's just nothing there,

1690
01:23:47,720 --> 01:23:50,760
Speaker 2: Like you do have to have a voice, and he

1691
01:23:50,800 --> 01:23:51,599
Speaker 2: doesn't have one.

1692
01:23:51,680 --> 01:23:53,960
Speaker 3: Well, was Reggie Miller any better? It was kind of

1693
01:23:54,040 --> 01:23:57,479
Speaker 3: discussed to me. Yes, he was, you know, blatantly just

1694
01:23:57,600 --> 01:24:00,559
Speaker 3: rooting for the Pacers, and I understand he played there.

1695
01:24:00,560 --> 01:24:03,120
Speaker 3: But then if that's true, way, why did it have

1696
01:24:03,200 --> 01:24:05,080
Speaker 3: to be him? And there was another Pacer? I figured,

1697
01:24:05,120 --> 01:24:06,800
Speaker 3: off the top of my head, why don't we just

1698
01:24:06,800 --> 01:24:08,360
Speaker 3: get a bunch of old New York Knicks and have

1699
01:24:08,479 --> 01:24:09,640
Speaker 3: him on the broadcast?

1700
01:24:09,720 --> 01:24:12,880
Speaker 2: Do that? I well, listen, like, I mean, I think

1701
01:24:13,240 --> 01:24:15,960
Speaker 2: the bigger thing, it's not it's really just to dog

1702
01:24:16,000 --> 01:24:18,439
Speaker 2: them out like they're all just terrible or anything else.

1703
01:24:18,479 --> 01:24:21,800
Speaker 2: I don't think Doris is cast well, I don't think.

1704
01:24:22,200 --> 01:24:24,080
Speaker 2: I just don't think this is the best role for

1705
01:24:24,120 --> 01:24:27,120
Speaker 2: her personally. And I think Richard Jefferson can offer you

1706
01:24:27,160 --> 01:24:29,599
Speaker 2: something in a studio. I just don't think his voice

1707
01:24:29,640 --> 01:24:33,519
Speaker 2: carries properly for what you need in that boot. I

1708
01:24:33,600 --> 01:24:37,640
Speaker 2: just miss Van Gundy at this point. Like, whatever you

1709
01:24:37,680 --> 01:24:39,840
Speaker 2: want to say about Mark Jackson, you know it's fine.

1710
01:24:39,960 --> 01:24:42,040
Speaker 2: He never really bothered me. I was fine with him.

1711
01:24:42,479 --> 01:24:44,519
Speaker 2: But Ben Gundhy is who I would like to hear

1712
01:24:44,560 --> 01:24:46,000
Speaker 2: in this game seven, Like.

1713
01:24:46,120 --> 01:24:48,599
Speaker 3: What do you what do you want for him? Broadcast crew?

1714
01:24:48,680 --> 01:24:50,720
Speaker 3: What do you what exactly are are you looking for

1715
01:24:50,840 --> 01:24:55,080
Speaker 3: entertainment or you're looking for fun, you're looking for strictly stats?

1716
01:24:55,160 --> 01:24:57,759
Speaker 3: What mixture of everything? What do you exactly are you

1717
01:24:57,840 --> 01:24:58,400
Speaker 3: looking for?

1718
01:24:59,160 --> 01:25:03,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know that it is necessarily like categorized

1719
01:25:03,200 --> 01:25:06,760
Speaker 2: like that. I think it's more I want it to

1720
01:25:06,880 --> 01:25:10,519
Speaker 2: sound smooth. I want there to be natural transitions in

1721
01:25:10,600 --> 01:25:14,000
Speaker 2: chemistry and people not talking over each other, except they're

1722
01:25:14,200 --> 01:25:15,599
Speaker 2: like exuberant moments.

1723
01:25:15,960 --> 01:25:19,639
Speaker 3: If the NBA crew Ernie and Charles and Kenny and

1724
01:25:20,040 --> 01:25:24,840
Speaker 3: Shaq were calling a game and left and we're record side,

1725
01:25:24,880 --> 01:25:25,639
Speaker 3: that'd be pretty fun.

1726
01:25:25,680 --> 01:25:28,200
Speaker 2: Well, they've done it before. Actually, I think they did

1727
01:25:28,240 --> 01:25:30,320
Speaker 2: that once before Shack was there. I think they did

1728
01:25:30,360 --> 01:25:33,439
Speaker 2: it with they put one guy with a pro though,

1729
01:25:33,520 --> 01:25:35,439
Speaker 2: and they didn't do it all together. I think the

1730
01:25:35,479 --> 01:25:37,400
Speaker 2: only time they've ever done is like during an All

1731
01:25:37,439 --> 01:25:40,360
Speaker 2: Star Game or something like that, where they've been together

1732
01:25:40,439 --> 01:25:43,800
Speaker 2: or whatever. I mean, it's different. It's kind of Manningcastish, right,

1733
01:25:44,080 --> 01:25:47,080
Speaker 2: or like McAfee or somebody like that. Like, it's a

1734
01:25:47,080 --> 01:25:50,120
Speaker 2: totally different kind of broadcast. It's an alternate kind of feel.

1735
01:25:50,320 --> 01:25:54,040
Speaker 2: But and I'm not necessarily saying that again. I will

1736
01:25:54,160 --> 01:25:57,559
Speaker 2: listen to Mike Breen call any basketball game. There are

1737
01:25:57,600 --> 01:26:01,839
Speaker 2: certain voices, Hm, Kevin Harlan an Eagle, like those guys

1738
01:26:01,880 --> 01:26:05,320
Speaker 2: are money in the bank and doing NHL, you know,

1739
01:26:08,479 --> 01:26:11,080
Speaker 2: I mean that was that's not something you'd watch every day.

1740
01:26:11,280 --> 01:26:14,680
Speaker 2: But he when he does stuff, it's really it's just

1741
01:26:14,760 --> 01:26:17,879
Speaker 2: interesting the way to get kind of yes, it's very entertaining,

1742
01:26:19,240 --> 01:26:23,360
Speaker 2: but Breen is great. But it's like you can you

1743
01:26:23,400 --> 01:26:25,880
Speaker 2: can just tell how hard he is working and you

1744
01:26:25,920 --> 01:26:28,200
Speaker 2: can see the difference between the two. I think that's

1745
01:26:28,360 --> 01:26:32,519
Speaker 2: that's like you talked about, Richard Jefferson said. Jefferson also said,

1746
01:26:32,520 --> 01:26:34,240
Speaker 2: you know, we're gonna get better, and you got to

1747
01:26:34,240 --> 01:26:36,240
Speaker 2: give us time. We're just kind of getting our chemistry

1748
01:26:36,280 --> 01:26:38,800
Speaker 2: down and all this and that's fair. It does take

1749
01:26:38,880 --> 01:26:43,559
Speaker 2: time on any radio program, any broadcast, anything like that.

1750
01:26:43,640 --> 01:26:47,479
Speaker 2: It does take time to build chemistry, to understand each

1751
01:26:47,520 --> 01:26:50,840
Speaker 2: other's rhythms, all that kind of stuff. Don't get me wrong,

1752
01:26:50,920 --> 01:26:54,479
Speaker 2: But that's actually the aesthetics, the sound of it, the

1753
01:26:54,479 --> 01:26:58,400
Speaker 2: way that it comes across. It's not necessarily the lack

1754
01:26:58,439 --> 01:27:01,880
Speaker 2: of chemistry. It's just the contents not good. It's just

1755
01:27:01,960 --> 01:27:07,120
Speaker 2: not good. And then halftime is just dreadful, like the

1756
01:27:07,200 --> 01:27:10,080
Speaker 2: postgame pregame halftime is just awful.

1757
01:27:10,120 --> 01:27:12,479
Speaker 3: I didn't even know, not even have individual I thought

1758
01:27:12,479 --> 01:27:15,400
Speaker 3: it was all commercials in thirty seconds try to eight people,

1759
01:27:15,439 --> 01:27:17,000
Speaker 3: That's right.

1760
01:27:17,080 --> 01:27:19,200
Speaker 2: That's the worst part. That's the worst part of it.

1761
01:27:19,240 --> 01:27:23,000
Speaker 2: If it feels so rushed. Oh never did I feel

1762
01:27:23,080 --> 01:27:27,160
Speaker 2: rushed watching TNT. That's one thing, Like, yeah, the halves

1763
01:27:27,200 --> 01:27:29,840
Speaker 2: were still the same length, right, Halftime is still the

1764
01:27:29,840 --> 01:27:32,919
Speaker 2: same length at those games, but it felt so much longer.

1765
01:27:33,200 --> 01:27:36,759
Speaker 2: Like guys actually talked and had a conversation at halftime

1766
01:27:36,800 --> 01:27:39,120
Speaker 2: on TNT, Kenny had time to run back and do

1767
01:27:39,200 --> 01:27:43,040
Speaker 2: his thing on the screen. They all had a chance

1768
01:27:43,120 --> 01:27:45,280
Speaker 2: to comment, But it wasn't like you've got five seconds,

1769
01:27:45,320 --> 01:27:47,160
Speaker 2: you got five seconds, You've got five seconds. This is

1770
01:27:47,200 --> 01:27:48,920
Speaker 2: a big blocklin groups, Let's get to the break.

1771
01:27:49,000 --> 01:27:52,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's ridiculous the way they they say, I mean,

1772
01:27:52,240 --> 01:27:54,840
Speaker 3: my goodness, many they're like, we got to wrap it up.

1773
01:27:55,360 --> 01:27:58,040
Speaker 3: I'm taking in the other in the other, okay, thank you,

1774
01:27:58,200 --> 01:28:01,080
Speaker 3: And you're just wrapping it up. And look, you can't

1775
01:28:01,080 --> 01:28:03,400
Speaker 3: blame them for sounding rushed.

1776
01:28:03,439 --> 01:28:06,160
Speaker 2: And it's not their fault if they don't have time.

1777
01:28:06,280 --> 01:28:08,680
Speaker 3: Exactly exactly, that's it.

1778
01:28:08,760 --> 01:28:10,960
Speaker 2: I mean, I mean, how much time does Kendrick Perkins need?

1779
01:28:12,720 --> 01:28:14,479
Speaker 2: That's it. I mean, there's just there's a lot of

1780
01:28:14,520 --> 01:28:17,599
Speaker 2: different problems. But this is a cast, right, Like ESBN

1781
01:28:17,640 --> 01:28:20,720
Speaker 2: knows this is a big broadcast for them. Like this

1782
01:28:20,840 --> 01:28:23,479
Speaker 2: game seven. I don't know what the number is gonna be,

1783
01:28:24,000 --> 01:28:26,160
Speaker 2: but it's gonna be high. There's gonna be a lot

1784
01:28:26,160 --> 01:28:29,320
Speaker 2: of people watching that aren't ordinarily watching, and they know that.

1785
01:28:29,640 --> 01:28:32,360
Speaker 2: At least I think they know. The product's not very good.

1786
01:28:34,200 --> 01:28:36,639
Speaker 2: There's not much that you can do to fix it here.

1787
01:28:37,000 --> 01:28:40,840
Speaker 2: You can't superimpose logos the way the NBA has, right,

1788
01:28:41,040 --> 01:28:45,040
Speaker 2: just try to make it seem more important. But I

1789
01:28:45,520 --> 01:28:48,160
Speaker 2: just I wish that I felt better about the product.

1790
01:28:48,240 --> 01:28:49,840
Speaker 2: I was gonna get a chance to watch. I'm not

1791
01:28:49,880 --> 01:28:52,240
Speaker 2: gonna be in the building, so I'm gonna get this.

1792
01:28:52,360 --> 01:28:56,759
Speaker 2: And it's like, this is not to me. This doesn't

1793
01:28:56,800 --> 01:28:58,559
Speaker 2: feel like an APOLS broadcast. To me.

1794
01:28:58,720 --> 01:29:00,760
Speaker 3: You still think it would have been too imposed had

1795
01:29:00,800 --> 01:29:02,880
Speaker 3: it been like New York in LA And where do

1796
01:29:02,880 --> 01:29:06,280
Speaker 3: you think the NBA m's have gone out? Gone all out?

1797
01:29:06,560 --> 01:29:09,240
Speaker 2: And did you hear Adam Silvers I went off on

1798
01:29:09,320 --> 01:29:12,680
Speaker 2: this last week? Okay, so the people that listen regularly

1799
01:29:12,720 --> 01:29:15,120
Speaker 2: have already heard this, okay, But Adam Silver was on

1800
01:29:15,160 --> 01:29:17,839
Speaker 2: the broadcast and they were superimposing or not super imposing,

1801
01:29:17,920 --> 01:29:21,280
Speaker 2: but doing the doing the graphics and everything logo okay,

1802
01:29:21,960 --> 01:29:24,920
Speaker 2: And he was asked about it on the pregame or whatever,

1803
01:29:24,960 --> 01:29:27,280
Speaker 2: and he's like, you know, Kendrick knows this, but we

1804
01:29:27,320 --> 01:29:30,080
Speaker 2: took the logos. They think this is new. The logos

1805
01:29:30,080 --> 01:29:32,880
Speaker 2: were taking off the court, the trophies were taking off

1806
01:29:32,920 --> 01:29:35,760
Speaker 2: the court like ten years ago. Because players are getting hurt.

1807
01:29:35,800 --> 01:29:41,200
Speaker 2: They were slipping on the logo and it's like, we

1808
01:29:41,200 --> 01:29:45,280
Speaker 2: we have tape at him. And at the beginning of

1809
01:29:45,320 --> 01:29:48,799
Speaker 2: this season, this thing that you call the nd season

1810
01:29:48,880 --> 01:29:52,320
Speaker 2: tournament that were forced to watch that you're trying to

1811
01:29:52,360 --> 01:29:56,400
Speaker 2: tell us matters right right the ist do you know

1812
01:29:56,479 --> 01:30:01,200
Speaker 2: what was on the on all those courts, especially when

1813
01:30:01,200 --> 01:30:04,960
Speaker 2: you got to the championship the trophy, A big trophy,

1814
01:30:05,280 --> 01:30:09,160
Speaker 2: A huge trophy logo. So you're telling me that you're

1815
01:30:09,200 --> 01:30:12,080
Speaker 2: worried about guys getting injured in the NBA finals by

1816
01:30:12,120 --> 01:30:15,040
Speaker 2: a logo that would make the floor seem special. But

1817
01:30:15,160 --> 01:30:19,639
Speaker 2: this nothing happening, doesn't matter tournament. You're gonna let everybody

1818
01:30:19,680 --> 01:30:21,880
Speaker 2: turn their ankles out there. Then it was put a

1819
01:30:21,920 --> 01:30:27,639
Speaker 2: trophy out there? Come on, man, like, don't don't play

1820
01:30:27,720 --> 01:30:30,840
Speaker 2: us for fools, like we're not idiots. Just just own

1821
01:30:30,960 --> 01:30:32,280
Speaker 2: up to it and say, you know, we probably made

1822
01:30:32,280 --> 01:30:33,599
Speaker 2: a bad decision on that, so we.

1823
01:30:33,840 --> 01:30:37,519
Speaker 3: Why did they? Yeah, but what's the rationale too? I

1824
01:30:37,600 --> 01:30:40,479
Speaker 3: don't understand the rationale and making a decision like that,

1825
01:30:40,560 --> 01:30:44,200
Speaker 3: it can't be financial. So just somebody made a dumb

1826
01:30:44,280 --> 01:30:45,840
Speaker 3: decision and everybody went along with it.

1827
01:30:46,720 --> 01:30:49,480
Speaker 2: Did they make a decision or did they just overlook

1828
01:30:49,520 --> 01:30:49,920
Speaker 2: think of it?

1829
01:30:50,000 --> 01:30:51,840
Speaker 3: They could have maybe overlooked and then.

1830
01:30:51,880 --> 01:30:55,160
Speaker 2: Can you imagine that though, like, gee, it is it

1831
01:30:55,240 --> 01:30:57,280
Speaker 2: is a it is a big deal. Like it sounds

1832
01:30:57,479 --> 01:31:00,000
Speaker 2: like you're nitpicking, but you're not. Like the Super Bowl

1833
01:31:00,160 --> 01:31:04,000
Speaker 2: everything about it screams different. Final four. Everything about it

1834
01:31:04,040 --> 01:31:07,960
Speaker 2: screams different. World Series. All the gear that they're wearing,

1835
01:31:08,040 --> 01:31:10,599
Speaker 2: the managers, of course they're they're fitted out now by

1836
01:31:10,640 --> 01:31:13,840
Speaker 2: New Era, but they have everything looks different to broadcast

1837
01:31:13,920 --> 01:31:17,960
Speaker 2: the music, the way that they fly in, everything looks different,

1838
01:31:18,000 --> 01:31:21,639
Speaker 2: Stanley Cupp all over the ice. All that looks different,

1839
01:31:22,280 --> 01:31:26,160
Speaker 2: Like Augusta. The flags are different. They're a different colored

1840
01:31:26,160 --> 01:31:29,200
Speaker 2: to Augusta than they are anywhere else us open same thing,

1841
01:31:29,760 --> 01:31:33,599
Speaker 2: Like there's a reason for all that. Like it's supposed

1842
01:31:33,640 --> 01:31:36,200
Speaker 2: to feel different. It's not supposed to feel like November

1843
01:31:36,200 --> 01:31:39,400
Speaker 2: twentieth in Oklahoma City when you're in Game seven of

1844
01:31:39,439 --> 01:31:42,320
Speaker 2: the NBA Finals. And I will say this too. These

1845
01:31:42,439 --> 01:31:45,080
Speaker 2: the logos that they have put on the floor look terrible.

1846
01:31:45,760 --> 01:31:49,080
Speaker 2: They look so bad, like the fact that they are

1847
01:31:49,080 --> 01:31:52,439
Speaker 2: not on the actual floor. You can tell you remember

1848
01:31:52,479 --> 01:31:56,360
Speaker 2: the Raptors a few like fifteen years ago, maybe now ten.

1849
01:31:56,439 --> 01:32:01,080
Speaker 2: Fifteen years ago had like the three D logo on

1850
01:32:01,120 --> 01:32:04,960
Speaker 2: the baseline, which it looked like yeah, no, no, no,

1851
01:32:05,000 --> 01:32:07,599
Speaker 2: it just said Raptors or it said Toronto, but it

1852
01:32:07,640 --> 01:32:11,519
Speaker 2: looked like it looked like a triptych or something like that.

1853
01:32:12,120 --> 01:32:14,240
Speaker 2: But it wasn't real, and you wouldn't know it. It

1854
01:32:14,240 --> 01:32:16,639
Speaker 2: would look like it was real till somebody stepped through

1855
01:32:16,680 --> 01:32:19,120
Speaker 2: it and it was like some kind of a graphical

1856
01:32:19,160 --> 01:32:23,120
Speaker 2: glitch or something that was at least an intriguing idea.

1857
01:32:23,400 --> 01:32:26,960
Speaker 2: This just looks like we cheaped out like it. Just

1858
01:32:27,120 --> 01:32:30,880
Speaker 2: none of this feels professional. It doesn't feel special. And

1859
01:32:30,920 --> 01:32:34,439
Speaker 2: that's like you already have small markets to do it

1860
01:32:34,680 --> 01:32:38,200
Speaker 2: to this degree. You've really kind of shot yourself in

1861
01:32:38,240 --> 01:32:40,960
Speaker 2: the foot here before you even get to this game.

1862
01:32:41,000 --> 01:32:43,439
Speaker 3: So I think when you played Game seven in the

1863
01:32:43,520 --> 01:32:46,240
Speaker 3: sphere in Vegas, you know what I mean about about

1864
01:32:46,240 --> 01:32:49,720
Speaker 3: that as a new optic. Have something special like that

1865
01:32:49,920 --> 01:32:52,640
Speaker 3: in Rucker Park. Yeah, there you go. That would be

1866
01:32:52,640 --> 01:32:54,240
Speaker 3: a lot of fun. That'd be a good idea.

1867
01:32:54,280 --> 01:32:56,559
Speaker 2: I like that. Yeah, I mean play I mean play it. Yeah,

1868
01:32:56,720 --> 01:33:01,280
Speaker 2: do something different, do something unique, find some way to

1869
01:33:01,400 --> 01:33:02,639
Speaker 2: make this thing stand out.

1870
01:33:02,680 --> 01:33:06,960
Speaker 3: How college plays on the aircraft carrier sometimes.

1871
01:33:07,000 --> 01:33:09,680
Speaker 2: So yeah, now that's that's an exhibition, aren't you. You're

1872
01:33:09,680 --> 01:33:11,800
Speaker 2: not gonna play your finals on a floating bar.

1873
01:33:12,040 --> 01:33:16,000
Speaker 3: But baseball plays a regular season game and feel the

1874
01:33:16,120 --> 01:33:20,400
Speaker 3: dreams and smaller fields in Pennsylvania and places like that,

1875
01:33:20,560 --> 01:33:22,000
Speaker 3: they're trying though, they're trying to.

1876
01:33:22,240 --> 01:33:24,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, find a way to make this thing

1877
01:33:24,520 --> 01:33:29,400
Speaker 2: larger than life, right, even even things that aren't good

1878
01:33:30,600 --> 01:33:32,840
Speaker 2: or things that aren't as popular as they once were,

1879
01:33:32,920 --> 01:33:35,960
Speaker 2: or at least you're skeptical of in advance. Like you know,

1880
01:33:36,000 --> 01:33:39,920
Speaker 2: the World Cup's gonna draw and it looks different the Olympics.

1881
01:33:40,000 --> 01:33:42,760
Speaker 2: You can't. You can't look on the screen and not

1882
01:33:42,880 --> 01:33:46,320
Speaker 2: see the five or inks right everywhere you are all

1883
01:33:46,439 --> 01:33:49,280
Speaker 2: the time. How hard is it to make sure that

1884
01:33:49,520 --> 01:33:54,120
Speaker 2: everyone that just this channel surfing, that's a casual watcher

1885
01:33:54,200 --> 01:33:57,080
Speaker 2: of anything that really isn't up on sports at all,

1886
01:33:57,920 --> 01:34:01,479
Speaker 2: sees the finals logo when you're not in commercial break.

1887
01:34:01,760 --> 01:34:05,040
Speaker 2: So maybe they would stop for about five seconds. Oh wait,

1888
01:34:05,240 --> 01:34:07,400
Speaker 2: they're playing the finals. Maybe I'll stay here. And that

1889
01:34:07,439 --> 01:34:09,639
Speaker 2: may happen for Game seven, And it probably will because

1890
01:34:09,640 --> 01:34:11,439
Speaker 2: word of mouth will let people know that there is

1891
01:34:11,479 --> 01:34:14,160
Speaker 2: a Game seven. People at church will mention it. It'll

1892
01:34:14,160 --> 01:34:16,679
Speaker 2: get out a little bit. But like if you were

1893
01:34:16,760 --> 01:34:19,719
Speaker 2: just going through the broadcast and you didn't know any better,

1894
01:34:19,880 --> 01:34:22,720
Speaker 2: you would never think there was anything important happening. It's

1895
01:34:22,760 --> 01:34:25,000
Speaker 2: not just another NBA game on a Sunday evening.

1896
01:34:25,200 --> 01:34:28,120
Speaker 3: Just another regular season game. You would have no idea

1897
01:34:28,160 --> 01:34:31,000
Speaker 3: that this was the most important game of the year.

1898
01:34:31,040 --> 01:34:34,160
Speaker 3: Like you said super Bowl, there's so many aspects and

1899
01:34:34,240 --> 01:34:38,439
Speaker 3: so many different stories and things to tell. They could

1900
01:34:38,479 --> 01:34:40,240
Speaker 3: do that all day. I mean it is all day.

1901
01:34:40,280 --> 01:34:42,679
Speaker 3: You go from early in the morning till till late

1902
01:34:42,720 --> 01:34:45,320
Speaker 3: at night. The NBA can't do that. And you know,

1903
01:34:45,360 --> 01:34:47,200
Speaker 3: people are kind of sick and tired of people like

1904
01:34:47,240 --> 01:34:51,599
Speaker 3: Steven A. Smith and those type, and they want something different.

1905
01:34:51,720 --> 01:34:52,439
Speaker 3: Yeah they.

1906
01:34:54,320 --> 01:34:57,160
Speaker 2: You don't say, Well, they do and they and you

1907
01:34:57,200 --> 01:34:58,320
Speaker 2: can see it in the ratings.

1908
01:34:58,360 --> 01:34:59,679
Speaker 3: I don't know what you could do to get better.

1909
01:34:59,760 --> 01:35:03,479
Speaker 3: Maybe bring back some former players or something. I don't know,

1910
01:35:03,520 --> 01:35:05,599
Speaker 3: but you've really got to mix it up a little bit.

1911
01:35:05,600 --> 01:35:06,439
Speaker 3: You got to do something.

1912
01:35:06,920 --> 01:35:08,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I mean they don't have time now.

1913
01:35:09,479 --> 01:35:11,519
Speaker 3: No, not forget about it now, that's for sure.

1914
01:35:12,120 --> 01:35:14,000
Speaker 2: I hope the best for him. I hope the broadcast

1915
01:35:14,080 --> 01:35:16,519
Speaker 2: is better than I anticipate that it's going to be.

1916
01:35:17,080 --> 01:35:19,360
Speaker 2: But a lot of their instincts so far have just

1917
01:35:19,400 --> 01:35:21,880
Speaker 2: been subpar. And a lot of this look and not

1918
01:35:21,960 --> 01:35:25,080
Speaker 2: the broadcast sodded specifically, but a lot of falls at

1919
01:35:25,080 --> 01:35:27,200
Speaker 2: Adam Silver's feet. Man, you got to March. Your league

1920
01:35:27,200 --> 01:35:30,519
Speaker 2: better stop worrying about the NFL and being jealous of

1921
01:35:30,680 --> 01:35:33,040
Speaker 2: what they've been able to do and actually learn from them.

1922
01:35:33,080 --> 01:35:34,760
Speaker 3: Well, he was too busy hoping it wasn't going to

1923
01:35:34,800 --> 01:35:36,200
Speaker 3: be Indiana and Okahoma sin.

1924
01:35:36,200 --> 01:35:40,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right. It's too busy crying, crying. What am

1925
01:35:40,479 --> 01:35:41,000
Speaker 2: I going to do?

1926
01:35:41,080 --> 01:35:43,640
Speaker 3: Now it's too late. I can't I had all my

1927
01:35:43,720 --> 01:35:45,519
Speaker 3: eggs in one basket and now it's gone.

1928
01:35:45,600 --> 01:35:47,679
Speaker 2: I can't do it. Yeah, So we'll predict the NBA.

1929
01:35:48,600 --> 01:35:50,719
Speaker 2: We'll predict Game seven. At the end of the program,

1930
01:35:50,760 --> 01:35:52,759
Speaker 2: we are going to talk a little bit about Shador

1931
01:35:52,880 --> 01:35:58,360
Speaker 2: Sanders and not the best week for him nor Yeah,

1932
01:35:58,800 --> 01:36:00,920
Speaker 2: as well as a little bit the NBA drafts and

1933
01:36:00,920 --> 01:36:03,560
Speaker 2: free agency stuff. We haven't talked about Kevin Durant potentially

1934
01:36:03,560 --> 01:36:05,280
Speaker 2: punching Bradley Beal yet.

1935
01:36:05,320 --> 01:36:07,759
Speaker 3: Twice not ones twice, two different times.

1936
01:36:08,240 --> 01:36:10,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, So we're gonna talk about all of that. So

1937
01:36:10,800 --> 01:36:13,000
Speaker 2: a lot still to come. Don't go anywhere. He's Arnie Spanier.

1938
01:36:13,000 --> 01:36:15,080
Speaker 2: I'm Jason Martin. This is Fox Sports Saturday on Fox

1939
01:36:15,080 --> 01:36:18,960
Speaker 2: Sports Radio. Be sure to check out the Fox Sports

1940
01:36:19,040 --> 01:36:22,479
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1941
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1942
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Speaker 2: Sports Radio on YouTube. You'll see a whole bunch of

1943
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Speaker 2: video highlights from our shows. Be sure to subscribe so

1944
01:36:31,320 --> 01:36:35,040
Speaker 2: you always have instant access to the Fox Sports Radio

1945
01:36:35,200 --> 01:36:40,000
Speaker 2: videos you love on YouTube. He's Arnie Spanier. Look if

1946
01:36:40,040 --> 01:36:44,960
Speaker 2: you subscribe. We promised no Arnie Spanier videos. Yeah, I

1947
01:36:44,960 --> 01:36:46,760
Speaker 2: mean outside of the new we Way game, you could

1948
01:36:46,760 --> 01:36:47,400
Speaker 2: still find that.

1949
01:36:49,320 --> 01:36:51,000
Speaker 3: That was a good time. Have you seen that yet

1950
01:36:51,080 --> 01:36:51,240
Speaker 3: or no?

1951
01:36:51,760 --> 01:36:54,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, we talked about it. Yeah, a couple of years

1952
01:36:54,400 --> 01:36:57,960
Speaker 2: ago when we were doing this show together and my

1953
01:36:58,040 --> 01:36:59,479
Speaker 2: wife and I enjoyed watching that.

1954
01:37:00,160 --> 01:37:01,559
Speaker 3: That was a good time with something else.

1955
01:37:01,640 --> 01:37:05,200
Speaker 2: Man, you won and good stuff. Yeah, didn't get to

1956
01:37:05,240 --> 01:37:07,080
Speaker 2: take you won, but then you ended up not being

1957
01:37:07,080 --> 01:37:08,400
Speaker 2: able to take anything right.

1958
01:37:08,360 --> 01:37:11,400
Speaker 3: No, no, trip to Micronesia. Didn't get the turtle waxed

1959
01:37:11,439 --> 01:37:14,519
Speaker 3: and I really wanted the rice aroni. I really like

1960
01:37:14,640 --> 01:37:17,040
Speaker 3: rice aroni, but didn't get to get that either. Nothing.

1961
01:37:17,120 --> 01:37:19,800
Speaker 2: Well did you buy someonehen you got home? Yeah? Well no,

1962
01:37:19,880 --> 01:37:20,719
Speaker 2: we didn't get anything.

1963
01:37:20,800 --> 01:37:23,000
Speaker 3: That was just I was so bad. We didn't get

1964
01:37:23,000 --> 01:37:24,760
Speaker 3: any We didn't take any of the trips. We had

1965
01:37:24,760 --> 01:37:27,800
Speaker 3: a year to take them, but I wasn't allowed to

1966
01:37:27,880 --> 01:37:31,320
Speaker 3: go with anybody else and my wife was pregnant, so,

1967
01:37:31,640 --> 01:37:33,760
Speaker 3: but usually the trips were to Hawaii. I don't know

1968
01:37:33,800 --> 01:37:37,760
Speaker 3: why they decided to give a trip to Micronesia.

1969
01:37:36,840 --> 01:37:37,559
Speaker 2: All of a sudden.

1970
01:37:37,840 --> 01:37:40,920
Speaker 3: Where is micro I don't know, by Guam or something?

1971
01:37:41,200 --> 01:37:43,240
Speaker 2: Okay, I was I was just gonna put you on

1972
01:37:43,280 --> 01:37:45,000
Speaker 2: the spots. See if you actually knew where that trip

1973
01:37:45,000 --> 01:37:45,680
Speaker 2: would have sent you.

1974
01:37:45,800 --> 01:37:49,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, exactly past that right, yeah, it past like

1975
01:37:49,840 --> 01:37:50,439
Speaker 3: four hours?

1976
01:37:50,479 --> 01:37:53,519
Speaker 2: Like where's Guam? Though? Yeah, well, don't that point too much? Yeah?

1977
01:37:53,600 --> 01:38:04,280
Speaker 2: Exactly near Greenland, right, Arnie. Where's Durant gonna play next year? Uh?

1978
01:38:04,280 --> 01:38:06,880
Speaker 3: Well, if you take a look at the Vegas odds,

1979
01:38:06,920 --> 01:38:09,720
Speaker 3: what do they say in what San Antonio? Detroit?

1980
01:38:10,080 --> 01:38:11,720
Speaker 2: You see he said no to Minnesota?

1981
01:38:12,240 --> 01:38:13,320
Speaker 3: Uh yeah, he didn't want to.

1982
01:38:13,320 --> 01:38:15,280
Speaker 2: He doesn't think it's the best news. I think that's

1983
01:38:15,320 --> 01:38:17,040
Speaker 2: the best news for Anthony Edwards.

1984
01:38:17,360 --> 01:38:19,599
Speaker 3: Oh that he's like, it's not the question where he's

1985
01:38:19,600 --> 01:38:23,040
Speaker 3: going to play. The question is does he still have

1986
01:38:23,080 --> 01:38:25,880
Speaker 3: an appeal out there? Does he still have it? Do

1987
01:38:25,960 --> 01:38:27,599
Speaker 3: people still want him? What do you want to give

1988
01:38:27,680 --> 01:38:30,000
Speaker 3: up for for somebody like him? Is he a guy

1989
01:38:30,040 --> 01:38:32,720
Speaker 3: that's going to take you to a championship or is

1990
01:38:32,760 --> 01:38:35,280
Speaker 3: he another guy that's just chasing a ring and is

1991
01:38:35,320 --> 01:38:37,560
Speaker 3: only a small part of winning a championship.

1992
01:38:38,200 --> 01:38:40,400
Speaker 2: I don't know if he's already won a couple of championships,

1993
01:38:40,439 --> 01:38:42,200
Speaker 2: aren't he so? I mean he's not like chasing his

1994
01:38:42,280 --> 01:38:45,439
Speaker 2: first ring or anything like that, right, No, well chasing

1995
01:38:45,520 --> 01:38:48,400
Speaker 2: you Yeah, I know he's not because rings don't matter.

1996
01:38:49,840 --> 01:38:53,840
Speaker 2: I I'm kind of I'm not sure. Like if he

1997
01:38:53,880 --> 01:38:56,960
Speaker 2: goes to Houston, I can understand, right, they're a young team. Now,

1998
01:38:57,000 --> 01:38:59,280
Speaker 2: the question is how much do you have to give

1999
01:38:59,400 --> 01:39:01,600
Speaker 2: up to get it him? And then are you still.

2000
01:39:01,360 --> 01:39:03,559
Speaker 3: Good if you had to give him too much?

2001
01:39:03,600 --> 01:39:06,639
Speaker 2: Phoenix had to do that already, san Antonio. You want

2002
01:39:06,640 --> 01:39:08,559
Speaker 2: to keep Castle, you want to keep Fox, you want

2003
01:39:08,560 --> 01:39:10,960
Speaker 2: to keep Wemby. If you're able to give up the

2004
01:39:11,040 --> 01:39:12,840
Speaker 2: draft pick and get him, maybe you maybe you look

2005
01:39:12,880 --> 01:39:14,600
Speaker 2: at it from that perspective. But the problem I have

2006
01:39:14,680 --> 01:39:16,599
Speaker 2: with him going to Minnesota was I feel like he

2007
01:39:16,640 --> 01:39:20,680
Speaker 2: would be the worst influence on Anthony Edwards because I

2008
01:39:21,040 --> 01:39:24,240
Speaker 2: don't want Anthony Edwards to trend to be Durant. Where

2009
01:39:24,400 --> 01:39:27,160
Speaker 2: Durant is just an all out great basketball player. He's

2010
01:39:27,160 --> 01:39:29,720
Speaker 2: a baller, but he has no interest in being a leader. Bro.

2011
01:39:29,800 --> 01:39:32,240
Speaker 3: He needs somebody. I mean, look how far Anthony Edwards

2012
01:39:32,280 --> 01:39:35,360
Speaker 3: took him. He just needed that one extra person. Didn't

2013
01:39:35,400 --> 01:39:38,719
Speaker 3: have towns this year, so UH needs that another person

2014
01:39:38,760 --> 01:39:40,200
Speaker 3: to go and get him over the hump. They look

2015
01:39:40,200 --> 01:39:41,439
Speaker 3: good in the playoffs though.

2016
01:39:41,760 --> 01:39:44,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, but they need a leader. And maybe he is

2017
01:39:44,240 --> 01:39:45,960
Speaker 2: going to develop into that, but I think he has

2018
01:39:46,000 --> 01:39:48,000
Speaker 2: to have somebody that can mentor him into that role.

2019
01:39:48,040 --> 01:39:50,120
Speaker 2: And maybe that guy's there, maybe it's like a Mike

2020
01:39:50,160 --> 01:39:54,040
Speaker 2: Conley here or somebody like that, but I still want

2021
01:39:54,080 --> 01:39:56,360
Speaker 2: to see that step taken. And I don't think Durant

2022
01:39:56,400 --> 01:39:58,320
Speaker 2: like Durant couldn't win with I mean, he could win

2023
01:39:58,360 --> 01:40:03,040
Speaker 2: a championship with Devin Booker. He's gonna go to Minnesota

2024
01:40:03,280 --> 01:40:05,800
Speaker 2: and it's gonna be all that much better. No, so

2025
01:40:05,840 --> 01:40:08,600
Speaker 2: he's saying no to that. But the bigger thing is

2026
01:40:08,600 --> 01:40:11,599
Speaker 2: this story. I don't do you believe this story? Do

2027
01:40:11,640 --> 01:40:16,439
Speaker 2: you believe that Kevin Durant punched Bradley Beale when he

2028
01:40:16,479 --> 01:40:19,280
Speaker 2: found out Beale wouldn't wave his no trade cause well,

2029
01:40:19,320 --> 01:40:20,080
Speaker 2: there was two things.

2030
01:40:20,080 --> 01:40:22,000
Speaker 3: One that he was gonna punch him or did punch him,

2031
01:40:22,040 --> 01:40:24,559
Speaker 3: but he wouldn't wave his no trade cause another one was,

2032
01:40:24,600 --> 01:40:28,400
Speaker 3: which I think it's better, was that he wouldn't change

2033
01:40:28,400 --> 01:40:32,280
Speaker 3: the music from Kendrick to Drake or something or vice versa.

2034
01:40:32,439 --> 01:40:35,280
Speaker 3: That to me is a lot funnier. But yeah, I

2035
01:40:35,320 --> 01:40:38,479
Speaker 3: do believe something went on. It was a first of all,

2036
01:40:38,520 --> 01:40:41,439
Speaker 3: not only was a reported by a few different people.

2037
01:40:41,800 --> 01:40:45,040
Speaker 3: Then Kevin Durant took the Twitter and tried to throw

2038
01:40:45,120 --> 01:40:47,720
Speaker 3: up the big denials out there, going I'm gonna have

2039
01:40:47,720 --> 01:40:50,559
Speaker 3: to punt on this story and say and stuff like that.

2040
01:40:51,520 --> 01:40:53,960
Speaker 3: I totally believe it. I think that's the reason why.

2041
01:40:54,040 --> 01:40:57,519
Speaker 3: And I think there was a lot of animasi in

2042
01:40:57,560 --> 01:41:00,360
Speaker 3: that locker room. More so then we knew during the

2043
01:41:00,360 --> 01:41:01,240
Speaker 3: course of the year.

2044
01:41:01,680 --> 01:41:03,880
Speaker 2: Well Bill wasn't a good fit. I think a lot

2045
01:41:03,920 --> 01:41:05,559
Speaker 2: of us believed he wasn't a good fit from there,

2046
01:41:05,560 --> 01:41:06,599
Speaker 2: and I guess he happened.

2047
01:41:06,680 --> 01:41:08,479
Speaker 3: He didn't want to wave his no trade but I

2048
01:41:08,479 --> 01:41:11,080
Speaker 3: guess his family loved it there and they want to

2049
01:41:11,120 --> 01:41:13,280
Speaker 3: be there, so they wouldn't wave the no trade contract.

2050
01:41:13,400 --> 01:41:16,640
Speaker 2: Did you also see that the Suns believe I'm not

2051
01:41:16,680 --> 01:41:18,400
Speaker 2: sure where I read this, but I saw it in

2052
01:41:18,479 --> 01:41:22,040
Speaker 2: multiple locations that the Suns feel like if the rant

2053
01:41:22,080 --> 01:41:24,080
Speaker 2: moves on, if they get out from underneath the rant

2054
01:41:24,080 --> 01:41:27,800
Speaker 2: that they feel like they're confident Buell can perform up

2055
01:41:27,800 --> 01:41:29,160
Speaker 2: to the level of what they've paid him.

2056
01:41:29,160 --> 01:41:30,840
Speaker 3: No, I didn't forget about that.

2057
01:41:31,439 --> 01:41:34,439
Speaker 2: There is no way, man. And even even if he does,

2058
01:41:34,960 --> 01:41:38,280
Speaker 2: how'd that work out for Washington? Like, okay, let's say

2059
01:41:38,280 --> 01:41:39,920
Speaker 2: he goes out there and balls out from from the

2060
01:41:39,960 --> 01:41:42,280
Speaker 2: perspective of shooting the way that he has during his career.

2061
01:41:42,280 --> 01:41:44,080
Speaker 2: He's a high volume player when it comes to that.

2062
01:41:44,120 --> 01:41:46,600
Speaker 2: But like you know, him and John Wall had a

2063
01:41:46,600 --> 01:41:51,320
Speaker 2: good moment together, and Beal was known for being a

2064
01:41:51,360 --> 01:41:53,600
Speaker 2: pretty positive influence and a dude that was doing a

2065
01:41:53,600 --> 01:41:56,280
Speaker 2: lot for Washington, scoring a lot of points. He's scored

2066
01:41:56,280 --> 01:41:58,040
Speaker 2: a lot of points and they won squat.

2067
01:41:58,280 --> 01:42:02,519
Speaker 3: Right, you're one hundred percent right. Those days are over.

2068
01:42:02,640 --> 01:42:06,400
Speaker 3: Bal's not gonna do anything for you, just another piece

2069
01:42:07,040 --> 01:42:10,040
Speaker 3: that doesn't fit into the puzzle. And the Sons have

2070
01:42:10,080 --> 01:42:12,880
Speaker 3: got some major problems as to where Durant's going. I

2071
01:42:12,920 --> 01:42:15,160
Speaker 3: just hope it's not to my New York Knicks. They

2072
01:42:15,160 --> 01:42:17,960
Speaker 3: don't need him. There's more, No, they don't everybody. You know,

2073
01:42:17,960 --> 01:42:21,800
Speaker 3: I'd rather them go after Jannis and you know, we'll

2074
01:42:21,800 --> 01:42:24,160
Speaker 3: see what we give up. But I'm telling you now,

2075
01:42:24,479 --> 01:42:26,679
Speaker 3: no appeal for Kevin Durant going to New York.

2076
01:42:27,040 --> 01:42:30,200
Speaker 2: I'd seen, like, is that too big a swing for

2077
01:42:30,240 --> 01:42:32,000
Speaker 2: the Knicks to go for Durant. I'm like, no, it's

2078
01:42:32,040 --> 01:42:34,720
Speaker 2: just not the right swing. It's just that's that's not

2079
01:42:34,840 --> 01:42:36,600
Speaker 2: the move that you make right now. I thought the

2080
01:42:37,160 --> 01:42:39,200
Speaker 2: problem is you need to make sure he's there to

2081
01:42:39,240 --> 01:42:43,639
Speaker 2: play in the playoffs. And I mean, dude, ever since

2082
01:42:43,680 --> 01:42:46,479
Speaker 2: what happened to him in Golden State, right he's just

2083
01:42:46,560 --> 01:42:48,000
Speaker 2: been an injury waiting to happen.

2084
01:42:49,240 --> 01:42:51,240
Speaker 3: I thought the Lakers would have been a good spot

2085
01:42:51,280 --> 01:42:54,639
Speaker 3: for him and just give him that third option along

2086
01:42:54,720 --> 01:42:57,760
Speaker 3: with Lebron and Luca. Then all of a sudden, we're

2087
01:42:57,800 --> 01:43:00,120
Speaker 3: talking about a team that can go deep in to

2088
01:43:00,160 --> 01:43:03,519
Speaker 3: the playoffs. I just don't know if Luca and could.

2089
01:43:03,520 --> 01:43:07,160
Speaker 2: Do you think Luca and KD could co exist well?

2090
01:43:07,200 --> 01:43:10,360
Speaker 2: Because I don't because they both need the ball so often.

2091
01:43:10,400 --> 01:43:13,600
Speaker 2: I know, yeah, but I'm talking about the amount of

2092
01:43:13,640 --> 01:43:18,439
Speaker 2: shots like Durant. Durant needs the ball to score a lot.

2093
01:43:19,000 --> 01:43:22,240
Speaker 2: Lebron needs the ball to facilitate. He'll he'll be willing

2094
01:43:22,280 --> 01:43:26,240
Speaker 2: to facilitate. But Luca and Kevin Durant are more high

2095
01:43:26,320 --> 01:43:29,120
Speaker 2: volume scorer type players. Well you're talking look at them,

2096
01:43:29,120 --> 01:43:30,639
Speaker 2: and I say, I don't know how that works.

2097
01:43:30,680 --> 01:43:33,040
Speaker 3: Well, you're talking about the playoffs, because during the regular season,

2098
01:43:33,160 --> 01:43:35,960
Speaker 3: Lebron's gonna have to take a step back and he's

2099
01:43:36,000 --> 01:43:38,679
Speaker 3: not even gonna come close to playing eighty whatever eighty

2100
01:43:38,760 --> 01:43:40,840
Speaker 3: two games. I think I see him more in the

2101
01:43:41,280 --> 01:43:44,439
Speaker 3: fifty five to sixty range and anything else. So they

2102
01:43:44,439 --> 01:43:47,439
Speaker 3: need people that could, you know, eat up, eat up

2103
01:43:47,640 --> 01:43:49,160
Speaker 3: away some of those games away.

2104
01:43:49,800 --> 01:43:52,679
Speaker 2: Who would you rather have next season? Paul Georgia, Bradley Beal.

2105
01:43:53,200 --> 01:43:55,639
Speaker 3: Oh, I'm not a fan upon George. Gosh, you gave

2106
01:43:55,680 --> 01:43:57,280
Speaker 3: me two guys. I guess i'd rather.

2107
01:43:57,240 --> 01:43:59,160
Speaker 2: Have be And I mean on the basketball floor, not

2108
01:43:59,240 --> 01:43:59,960
Speaker 2: on a podcast.

2109
01:44:02,560 --> 01:44:05,400
Speaker 3: I guess Paul George. But I'm not a fan of his.

2110
01:44:05,479 --> 01:44:08,120
Speaker 3: He costs so much, and that's got to be a factor.

2111
01:44:08,120 --> 01:44:10,320
Speaker 3: If you're not talking about money, it'd have to be

2112
01:44:10,320 --> 01:44:10,960
Speaker 3: Paul George.

2113
01:44:11,000 --> 01:44:12,840
Speaker 2: That's the way I would go. Then how about Paul

2114
01:44:12,880 --> 01:44:14,760
Speaker 2: George Bradley Beal or Russell Westbrook?

2115
01:44:15,200 --> 01:44:16,160
Speaker 3: Russell Westbrook.

2116
01:44:16,840 --> 01:44:20,240
Speaker 2: Interesting, that's hilarious, right, Think about what you thought of

2117
01:44:20,280 --> 01:44:21,840
Speaker 2: Russell Westbrook a couple of years ago.

2118
01:44:22,080 --> 01:44:25,000
Speaker 3: I always liked Russe. I always liked Russell Westbrook. I

2119
01:44:25,640 --> 01:44:29,040
Speaker 3: never wavered from that. I never turned on him, always

2120
01:44:29,120 --> 01:44:30,800
Speaker 3: was a fan of his. I knew he wasn't the

2121
01:44:30,880 --> 01:44:34,439
Speaker 3: best shooter, but I think he's a great guy, classy guy,

2122
01:44:34,880 --> 01:44:37,280
Speaker 3: and he does so many things. I'm always been a

2123
01:44:37,840 --> 01:44:38,920
Speaker 3: Russell Westbrook fan.

2124
01:44:39,320 --> 01:44:42,719
Speaker 2: Look, I'm a Thunder guy, So I mean I tend

2125
01:44:43,160 --> 01:44:46,400
Speaker 2: towards your I mean there's definitely some flaws in Russell Westbrook.

2126
01:44:46,479 --> 01:44:48,639
Speaker 3: Well think wrong, think about.

2127
01:44:48,400 --> 01:44:50,920
Speaker 2: That Lakers thing was not the Lakers thing was just

2128
01:44:51,040 --> 01:44:52,240
Speaker 2: that should never have happened.

2129
01:44:52,400 --> 01:44:55,479
Speaker 3: You're one game away from a championship, and all it

2130
01:44:55,520 --> 01:44:59,200
Speaker 3: took was for you to trade away three Hall of famers, Right,

2131
01:44:59,560 --> 01:45:01,960
Speaker 3: but a prime too or before their prime?

2132
01:45:02,439 --> 01:45:04,880
Speaker 2: Well you had three at the same time, right, I

2133
01:45:04,880 --> 01:45:07,720
Speaker 2: mean had that mean they got beat and they got

2134
01:45:07,760 --> 01:45:11,439
Speaker 2: beat against that Miami squad. But like I think the

2135
01:45:11,560 --> 01:45:15,400
Speaker 2: bigger thing is this, all we had to do to

2136
01:45:15,400 --> 01:45:17,280
Speaker 2: get to a Game seven. All the Thunder had to

2137
01:45:17,320 --> 01:45:22,200
Speaker 2: do was tray Paul George for SGA, right, and multiple

2138
01:45:22,280 --> 01:45:26,000
Speaker 2: draft picks that are still paying off now, like one

2139
01:45:26,000 --> 01:45:29,000
Speaker 2: of them became Jamal Williams. Like you think about all that,

2140
01:45:29,120 --> 01:45:31,599
Speaker 2: Like how that work out for the Clippers.

2141
01:45:32,640 --> 01:45:34,360
Speaker 3: Well, it didn't work out for the Clippers at all.

2142
01:45:34,439 --> 01:45:36,759
Speaker 3: They know it, didn't know that that team's a mess

2143
01:45:36,760 --> 01:45:40,040
Speaker 3: all so they you know, too many, too many people

2144
01:45:40,080 --> 01:45:43,760
Speaker 3: that want the ball, and it's just horrible. But yeah,

2145
01:45:43,840 --> 01:45:47,000
Speaker 3: I think Oklahoma City right now, it was in a

2146
01:45:47,000 --> 01:45:48,960
Speaker 3: good position. They get rid of three all of famers,

2147
01:45:49,000 --> 01:45:51,680
Speaker 3: there are one win away from winning a championship. They're

2148
01:45:51,680 --> 01:45:54,719
Speaker 3: a six and a half point favorite. I like him tomorrow.

2149
01:45:54,760 --> 01:45:57,120
Speaker 3: I think we're on the reestimating about what that home

2150
01:45:57,160 --> 01:45:58,599
Speaker 3: field is going to do for them.

2151
01:45:59,000 --> 01:46:03,160
Speaker 2: So to that point, we talked about this last week

2152
01:46:03,240 --> 01:46:05,400
Speaker 2: on the show Torres and I did, and now I

2153
01:46:05,520 --> 01:46:07,080
Speaker 2: just kind of want to get your thoughts on it.

2154
01:46:07,120 --> 01:46:11,080
Speaker 2: Who do you think between the Thunder and the Pacers

2155
01:46:12,120 --> 01:46:14,080
Speaker 2: need this championship more.

2156
01:46:16,560 --> 01:46:17,200
Speaker 3: In what way?

2157
01:46:17,320 --> 01:46:19,200
Speaker 2: Like for the city, for the well, you can take

2158
01:46:19,240 --> 01:46:22,240
Speaker 2: it however you want to do it. But like the

2159
01:46:22,280 --> 01:46:25,040
Speaker 2: way that I looked at it was which one has

2160
01:46:25,080 --> 01:46:29,240
Speaker 2: the better chance to do this again? And which one?

2161
01:46:29,280 --> 01:46:31,360
Speaker 2: Do you feel like this is the only shot? Like

2162
01:46:31,439 --> 01:46:35,400
Speaker 2: they found themselves in the perfect position, but they certainly

2163
01:46:35,439 --> 01:46:38,000
Speaker 2: cannot expect to be doing this regularly.

2164
01:46:38,160 --> 01:46:40,960
Speaker 3: I feel like it's just the beginning for Oklahoma City

2165
01:46:41,040 --> 01:46:44,439
Speaker 3: and just them winning. This could be the start of

2166
01:46:44,520 --> 01:46:47,519
Speaker 3: something wonderful where they can win I don't know, three

2167
01:46:47,640 --> 01:46:49,200
Speaker 3: or five or go on a little bit of a

2168
01:46:49,240 --> 01:46:52,559
Speaker 3: one like san Antonio did, even though san Antonio never

2169
01:46:52,600 --> 01:46:54,280
Speaker 3: won back to back, I don't believe.

2170
01:46:54,600 --> 01:46:56,240
Speaker 2: But the West is tough man.

2171
01:46:56,200 --> 01:46:58,720
Speaker 3: Right, right, So there's no doubt about that. I think

2172
01:46:58,840 --> 01:47:03,320
Speaker 3: the Pacers window is going to be real short after this.

2173
01:47:03,439 --> 01:47:05,559
Speaker 3: Miles Turner, is he gonna be coming back. I don't

2174
01:47:05,600 --> 01:47:07,040
Speaker 3: think he's coming back.

2175
01:47:07,120 --> 01:47:09,880
Speaker 2: Somebody's going He's gonna get paid this offseason. The question

2176
01:47:10,040 --> 01:47:11,840
Speaker 2: is is he still gonna be in Indiana or is

2177
01:47:11,880 --> 01:47:13,200
Speaker 2: somebody else gonna snack him?

2178
01:47:13,320 --> 01:47:13,479
Speaker 4: Right?

2179
01:47:13,560 --> 01:47:16,880
Speaker 3: And Indiana did finish as a sixth seed, so give

2180
01:47:16,960 --> 01:47:18,479
Speaker 3: him credit for the run. I don't know if they

2181
01:47:18,479 --> 01:47:21,280
Speaker 3: could do that every year. So I think it's a

2182
01:47:21,320 --> 01:47:23,559
Speaker 3: big game for Oklahoma City if it's the start of

2183
01:47:23,880 --> 01:47:27,160
Speaker 3: something wonderful, but it's probably bigger for Indiana because this

2184
01:47:27,200 --> 01:47:28,920
Speaker 3: is probably the last go around for them.

2185
01:47:29,320 --> 01:47:32,320
Speaker 2: All right, So last year they were close. This year

2186
01:47:32,360 --> 01:47:35,200
Speaker 2: they make it to the finals. And I still just

2187
01:47:35,200 --> 01:47:37,639
Speaker 2: think because it's Indiana, we still are just like, yeah,

2188
01:47:37,640 --> 01:47:41,000
Speaker 2: it's not gonna happen again. We're still betting against them

2189
01:47:41,000 --> 01:47:42,320
Speaker 2: even now, even if they.

2190
01:47:42,240 --> 01:47:44,360
Speaker 3: Were a sixth seed, though they're not. You're not supposed

2191
01:47:44,360 --> 01:47:46,320
Speaker 3: to be doing that coming out coming out of the

2192
01:47:46,400 --> 01:47:48,920
Speaker 3: sixth seed. That's why we're not giving them credit. Not

2193
01:47:49,000 --> 01:47:50,240
Speaker 3: so much because of their talent.

2194
01:47:50,520 --> 01:47:51,840
Speaker 2: They define show credit.

2195
01:47:51,840 --> 01:47:57,880
Speaker 3: Their coach, Oh phenomenal. I was asking a friend of mine,

2196
01:47:57,920 --> 01:47:59,720
Speaker 3: why did Dallas let him go?

2197
01:48:00,040 --> 01:48:00,240
Speaker 2: Yeah?

2198
01:48:00,640 --> 01:48:03,080
Speaker 3: Was it just time? I guess he didn't get along

2199
01:48:03,240 --> 01:48:05,680
Speaker 3: with a lot of people in that organization.

2200
01:48:05,760 --> 01:48:08,240
Speaker 2: From what I understood, Well, he landed on his feet.

2201
01:48:08,320 --> 01:48:10,360
Speaker 2: We can say that, let's get to the saga one

2202
01:48:10,439 --> 01:48:14,120
Speaker 2: final time. We will predict the NBA Finals and the

2203
01:48:14,160 --> 01:48:17,439
Speaker 2: final segment will lead to Sega. After he does his update,

2204
01:48:17,880 --> 01:48:19,639
Speaker 2: we'll let him also tell us who's gonna win.

2205
01:48:21,000 --> 01:48:22,920
Speaker 6: I have thought it would be over by now. And

2206
01:48:22,920 --> 01:48:25,280
Speaker 6: then Oklahoma City. Of course, they're the better team, and

2207
01:48:25,360 --> 01:48:27,880
Speaker 6: they're at home and it's a great home crown. Of

2208
01:48:27,880 --> 01:48:30,160
Speaker 6: course they should win. And as far as the pressure,

2209
01:48:30,240 --> 01:48:32,360
Speaker 6: the team that win any season, the team that wins

2210
01:48:32,400 --> 01:48:35,760
Speaker 6: sixty eight games should be the one feeling the pressure, Like,

2211
01:48:35,880 --> 01:48:37,040
Speaker 6: my goodness, we better win.

2212
01:48:37,240 --> 01:48:39,320
Speaker 3: I'm still sticking with the Knicks to win I'm still

2213
01:48:39,360 --> 01:48:40,080
Speaker 3: sticking with them.

2214
01:48:41,200 --> 01:48:43,360
Speaker 6: By the way, the answer to your previous Paul George

2215
01:48:43,439 --> 01:48:47,719
Speaker 6: question is Paul George. Any team needs to acquire Paul

2216
01:48:47,760 --> 01:48:50,479
Speaker 6: George because then you can trade him away and make the.

2217
01:48:50,360 --> 01:48:55,679
Speaker 2: Finals as these points each time exactly. That's an excellent point.

2218
01:48:56,320 --> 01:48:59,280
Speaker 6: NBA Finals Game seven is Sunday. By the way, there

2219
01:48:59,280 --> 01:49:01,959
Speaker 6: were two w NBA games to nine, one at Chicago.

2220
01:49:02,080 --> 01:49:05,360
Speaker 6: Chicago's three and nine. They got the doors blown off

2221
01:49:05,400 --> 01:49:08,160
Speaker 6: one oh seven eighty six by Phoenix. Angel Rees of

2222
01:49:08,280 --> 01:49:12,240
Speaker 6: Chicago had nine points and two rebounds in twenty one minutes.

2223
01:49:12,280 --> 01:49:14,679
Speaker 2: She means, yeah, two of them.

2224
01:49:15,320 --> 01:49:17,120
Speaker 3: You have to pay for that, don't you When you're

2225
01:49:17,160 --> 01:49:20,879
Speaker 3: that tall comparatively, can't you get four rebounds by accident?

2226
01:49:21,000 --> 01:49:21,879
Speaker 2: In four quarters?

2227
01:49:22,240 --> 01:49:24,280
Speaker 6: She had twenty one minutes on the court and was

2228
01:49:24,360 --> 01:49:27,800
Speaker 6: one of one shooting from the floor. Minnesota is twelve

2229
01:49:27,880 --> 01:49:31,080
Speaker 6: and one after beating La eighty two sixty six. US

2230
01:49:31,160 --> 01:49:34,360
Speaker 6: men soccer plays against Sunday on Fox TV against Haiti

2231
01:49:34,400 --> 01:49:36,880
Speaker 6: and the Gold Cup Tournament. The next IndyCar race on

2232
01:49:36,960 --> 01:49:40,400
Speaker 6: Fox is Sunday at Road America, Wisconsin. Denny Hamlin are

2233
01:49:40,439 --> 01:49:43,479
Speaker 6: in the poll for Sunday's NASCAR event at Pocono Tommy

2234
01:49:43,479 --> 01:49:47,320
Speaker 6: Fleetwood leads the Travelers by three strokes. UFC fighter John

2235
01:49:47,400 --> 01:49:51,599
Speaker 6: Jones retired and the College Baseball World Series Finals best

2236
01:49:51,680 --> 01:49:54,799
Speaker 6: of three started tonight with an LSU one nothing victory

2237
01:49:55,120 --> 01:49:58,439
Speaker 6: over Coastal Carolina, which had gone two months without losing

2238
01:49:58,479 --> 01:50:01,439
Speaker 6: a game. A twenty six game winning streak ended tonight

2239
01:50:01,720 --> 01:50:04,800
Speaker 6: the win to LSU's Kate Anderson. A complete game, three hitter,

2240
01:50:05,160 --> 01:50:08,920
Speaker 6: ten strikeouts, five walks, one hundred and thirty pitches thrown.

2241
01:50:09,320 --> 01:50:12,040
Speaker 3: I still say it sounds more like a vacation destination

2242
01:50:12,160 --> 01:50:14,160
Speaker 3: than the college. Well, we're going to vacation as the

2243
01:50:14,200 --> 01:50:15,559
Speaker 3: Coast Coast Carolin.

2244
01:50:15,800 --> 01:50:17,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, it does sound good.

2245
01:50:17,800 --> 01:50:20,200
Speaker 6: And by the way, people have commented that this has

2246
01:50:20,240 --> 01:50:23,479
Speaker 6: got to be one of the better uniform matchups in

2247
01:50:23,560 --> 01:50:26,639
Speaker 6: any finals in any sports, where you get the purple

2248
01:50:26,840 --> 01:50:30,160
Speaker 6: against the teal. The pitcher for the Yankees today in

2249
01:50:30,240 --> 01:50:32,920
Speaker 6: New York was Clerk Schmidt. Got the win against Baltimore

2250
01:50:33,000 --> 01:50:35,559
Speaker 6: nine to nothing. He threw seven no hit innings, came

2251
01:50:35,600 --> 01:50:38,679
Speaker 6: out after one hundred three pitches, did walk a couple.

2252
01:50:38,840 --> 01:50:41,679
Speaker 6: Yankees hit four solo homers in the first five innings

2253
01:50:42,080 --> 01:50:45,160
Speaker 6: nine hit. The final, the Orioles offense went one for

2254
01:50:45,240 --> 01:50:48,320
Speaker 6: twenty eight, and the Mets hit a record tying seven

2255
01:50:48,680 --> 01:50:52,240
Speaker 6: solo homers, including three straight in the third inning. Mets

2256
01:50:52,280 --> 01:50:54,679
Speaker 6: one at Philadelphia eleven to four to and the seven

2257
01:50:54,680 --> 01:50:57,160
Speaker 6: game losing streak. The Mets in Phillies now tied for

2258
01:50:57,240 --> 01:51:01,560
Speaker 6: first in the NL East. Milwaukee one nine nothing at Minnesota.

2259
01:51:01,680 --> 01:51:04,360
Speaker 6: Victories at home for Tampa Bay and for Saint Louis,

2260
01:51:04,360 --> 01:51:06,599
Speaker 6: which has won five straight. Got an eleven inning win

2261
01:51:06,640 --> 01:51:09,280
Speaker 6: over the Red six to five. Cubs beat Seattle ten

2262
01:51:09,320 --> 01:51:11,360
Speaker 6: to seven. Cubs led nine to one in the third

2263
01:51:11,400 --> 01:51:13,680
Speaker 6: at Wrigley and by the way, Cubs pitcher show to

2264
01:51:13,720 --> 01:51:16,920
Speaker 6: Emonaga will return from the injured list next week. The

2265
01:51:16,920 --> 01:51:20,599
Speaker 6: Mariners Cal Raley hit his thirtieth homer. Atlanta pitcher Chris

2266
01:51:20,600 --> 01:51:23,120
Speaker 6: Sale is on the injured list with a fractured rib.

2267
01:51:23,160 --> 01:51:27,120
Speaker 6: Cage Braves won seven nothing at Miami, victories for Toronto

2268
01:51:27,200 --> 01:51:30,639
Speaker 6: and Texas. Wins for San Diego and San Francisco, which

2269
01:51:30,720 --> 01:51:32,760
Speaker 6: was up three to nothing in the ninth and beat

2270
01:51:32,760 --> 01:51:35,599
Speaker 6: Boston three to two. Rafael Devers X of the Red

2271
01:51:35,640 --> 01:51:38,519
Speaker 6: Sox hit a two run homer. Arizona won five to

2272
01:51:38,560 --> 01:51:42,439
Speaker 6: three at Colorado. The Rockies record now seventeen and sixty

2273
01:51:43,120 --> 01:51:46,040
Speaker 6: and at home. According to STATSIG, just the home games

2274
01:51:46,080 --> 01:51:49,160
Speaker 6: this season, the Rockies have been outscored by one hundred

2275
01:51:49,160 --> 01:51:53,599
Speaker 6: and twenty five runs already. Oh that is the worst

2276
01:51:53,720 --> 01:51:57,519
Speaker 6: run differential through thirty five home games of any season

2277
01:51:57,760 --> 01:52:01,719
Speaker 6: by any Major League team since the eighteen ninety seven

2278
01:52:01,800 --> 01:52:05,720
Speaker 6: Saint Louis Brown's. The Rockies home record is seven and

2279
01:52:05,880 --> 01:52:09,479
Speaker 6: twenty nine and the Diamondbacks again did not have outfielder

2280
01:52:09,560 --> 01:52:11,880
Speaker 6: Corbyn Carrol out again with the hand injury for a

2281
01:52:11,920 --> 01:52:15,439
Speaker 6: third straight game. Henneyo Suarez did his twenty fifth homer.

2282
01:52:15,720 --> 01:52:18,240
Speaker 6: It was the Angels nine one over Houston. The Houston

2283
01:52:18,240 --> 01:52:22,439
Speaker 6: offense three for thirty thirteen, strikeout Cleveland with four runs

2284
01:52:22,439 --> 01:52:24,320
Speaker 6: in the second one four to two at the A's,

2285
01:52:24,600 --> 01:52:27,360
Speaker 6: and Washington hit five home runs and beat the Dodgers

2286
01:52:27,400 --> 01:52:30,000
Speaker 6: seven to three. Pitchers show, hey Otani of LA will

2287
01:52:30,040 --> 01:52:31,120
Speaker 6: start Sunday back.

2288
01:52:30,960 --> 01:52:33,679
Speaker 2: To you, thank you Steve I one four evenings.

2289
01:52:33,720 --> 01:52:36,280
Speaker 3: They should saw Thanks Day. They should fight.

2290
01:52:36,240 --> 01:52:37,280
Speaker 2: Great day Sunday.

2291
01:52:37,320 --> 01:52:40,000
Speaker 3: But you know yes, by the way, they should follow

2292
01:52:40,080 --> 01:52:43,000
Speaker 3: the guys on the Rockies next year and see if

2293
01:52:43,040 --> 01:52:45,320
Speaker 3: they are still in baseball or where they end up.

2294
01:52:45,439 --> 01:52:47,519
Speaker 3: The out of how bad they really are.

2295
01:52:47,720 --> 01:52:50,200
Speaker 2: Man, you're playing Corsefield. You're supposed to have that offense.

2296
01:52:50,520 --> 01:52:51,519
Speaker 3: Yeah, you got nothing.

2297
01:52:51,600 --> 01:52:55,120
Speaker 2: The altitude. Man, that's a rough that's a rough ticket

2298
01:52:55,200 --> 01:52:59,719
Speaker 2: right now. That's rough. It's absolutely terrible ticket.

2299
01:52:59,800 --> 01:53:03,679
Speaker 3: Did you see that the Savannah Bananas were playing there

2300
01:53:04,120 --> 01:53:07,000
Speaker 3: and their tickets were like what, eighteen hundred dollars on

2301
01:53:07,080 --> 01:53:08,200
Speaker 3: the secondary market.

2302
01:53:08,479 --> 01:53:12,200
Speaker 2: I'm still kind of just mind boggled by how many

2303
01:53:12,200 --> 01:53:13,559
Speaker 2: people come out to see them.

2304
01:53:13,720 --> 01:53:14,880
Speaker 3: Oh, that's a great story.

2305
01:53:15,000 --> 01:53:16,960
Speaker 2: I'm not saying it's a bad story. I'm just kind

2306
01:53:16,960 --> 01:53:18,200
Speaker 2: of I'm just blown away by it.

2307
01:53:18,240 --> 01:53:22,160
Speaker 3: I want to that. Weren't they in Tennessee not too

2308
01:53:22,200 --> 01:53:22,639
Speaker 3: long ago?

2309
01:53:22,800 --> 01:53:25,200
Speaker 2: Yes, they were. They were at Gissan Stadium. I think

2310
01:53:25,240 --> 01:53:30,920
Speaker 2: here they're different, Like fifty sixty thousand to watch their stuff?

2311
01:53:31,080 --> 01:53:33,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, they they sell out football stadiums.

2312
01:53:33,400 --> 01:53:36,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's insane. That is crazy.

2313
01:53:37,120 --> 01:53:38,400
Speaker 3: That's great. I love it.

2314
01:53:38,439 --> 01:53:41,960
Speaker 2: Though, I love it. We'll come back. We are going

2315
01:53:42,000 --> 01:53:45,760
Speaker 2: to predict Game seven. Yeah, finally, even though Arnie's kind

2316
01:53:45,800 --> 01:53:48,720
Speaker 2: of teased it already what he's going to do with this,

2317
01:53:49,880 --> 01:53:51,879
Speaker 2: But we'll break it down. We'll let you know exactly

2318
01:53:51,880 --> 01:53:53,960
Speaker 2: what we think is going to happen before we get

2319
01:53:53,960 --> 01:53:55,960
Speaker 2: out of here. Maybe we'll talk a little bit of

2320
01:53:56,200 --> 01:53:58,040
Speaker 2: a little bit of the draft, but I think we'll

2321
01:53:58,040 --> 01:54:00,519
Speaker 2: come back and just touch quickly on a couple of

2322
01:54:00,560 --> 01:54:03,559
Speaker 2: speeding tickets that were in the news over the past

2323
01:54:03,600 --> 01:54:05,759
Speaker 2: few days. So stick around. We got one more segment

2324
01:54:06,080 --> 01:54:08,360
Speaker 2: after this break. He's ONNYE spanning. I'm Jason Martin. This

2325
01:54:08,400 --> 01:54:09,320
Speaker 2: is Fox Sports Radio.

2326
01:54:11,479 --> 01:54:13,280
Speaker 3: I love this guy, man.

2327
01:54:13,120 --> 01:54:14,920
Speaker 2: I almost forgot this existed.

2328
01:54:17,960 --> 01:54:18,920
Speaker 3: I love that guy.

2329
01:54:19,320 --> 01:54:22,799
Speaker 2: I nearly fractured my next shake care biz marque disdain,

2330
01:54:26,240 --> 01:54:27,599
Speaker 2: I do miss biz Marquis.

2331
01:54:28,640 --> 01:54:33,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, he passed away. Sounds good there, though.

2332
01:54:35,040 --> 01:54:41,200
Speaker 2: If he hadn't, he would have. Now that's Ernie Spanier

2333
01:54:41,280 --> 01:54:45,720
Speaker 2: laughing and singing. If you can believe it. I'm Jason Martin.

2334
01:54:46,880 --> 01:54:48,680
Speaker 2: Torres will be back with me. Aaron Torres will be

2335
01:54:48,680 --> 01:54:54,040
Speaker 2: back with me next week. Arnie. I've got a couple

2336
01:54:54,040 --> 01:54:58,160
Speaker 2: of speeding tickets in my day. Chador has gotten a

2337
01:54:58,200 --> 01:55:01,640
Speaker 2: couple recently, chadors SA that is going over one hundred

2338
01:55:01,640 --> 01:55:05,720
Speaker 2: and sixty five multiple times got asked about it. Talked

2339
01:55:05,720 --> 01:55:08,800
Speaker 2: at a celebrity softball game, like I think a Cleveland

2340
01:55:08,880 --> 01:55:12,400
Speaker 2: rapper he was hanging out with like kind of tried

2341
01:55:12,440 --> 01:55:15,000
Speaker 2: to say he didn't do anything wrong, and then Shador's like,

2342
01:55:15,200 --> 01:55:19,760
Speaker 2: I've made a couple of bad decisions. Big big thing,

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01:55:20,000 --> 01:55:22,440
Speaker 2: little thing, red flag? How are you feeling about it?

2344
01:55:22,520 --> 01:55:25,120
Speaker 3: It's not a big thing. It's not even a red flag.

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01:55:25,160 --> 01:55:27,040
Speaker 3: Well it's maybe it's a red flag if he would

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01:55:27,040 --> 01:55:30,800
Speaker 3: have gotten one. Now it's a red flag, and it's

2347
01:55:30,840 --> 01:55:33,800
Speaker 3: a big deal because he's gotten two. It's also a

2348
01:55:33,840 --> 01:55:35,560
Speaker 3: red flag and a big deal because he was doing

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01:55:35,680 --> 01:55:37,400
Speaker 3: over one hundred miles an hour.

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01:55:37,960 --> 01:55:38,080
Speaker 2: Right.

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01:55:39,080 --> 01:55:41,200
Speaker 3: You know, I heard people go, well, we all did

2352
01:55:41,200 --> 01:55:43,360
Speaker 3: that as kids, and I, you know, I have a

2353
01:55:43,400 --> 01:55:46,320
Speaker 3: story about what I did. But you want to ask

2354
01:55:46,480 --> 01:55:50,320
Speaker 3: the former Raider wide receiver rug I.

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01:55:50,280 --> 01:55:52,840
Speaker 2: Was about to was, that's exactly the same person I

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01:55:52,880 --> 01:55:55,320
Speaker 2: thought about. Yeah, you're going exactly where I same.

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01:55:55,240 --> 01:55:58,400
Speaker 3: Thing exactly If he feels like it's a red flag

2358
01:55:58,520 --> 01:56:01,920
Speaker 3: or or no big deal, you know, I'll never forget this.

2359
01:56:02,240 --> 01:56:06,960
Speaker 3: I was seventeen years old, and I'll make this story quick.

2360
01:56:07,000 --> 01:56:09,320
Speaker 3: I was seventeen years old. My parents never had any

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01:56:09,360 --> 01:56:11,880
Speaker 3: money at all. We came from the Bronx, New York.

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01:56:12,360 --> 01:56:14,320
Speaker 3: We had moved to Los Angeles. We were like the

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01:56:14,360 --> 01:56:17,120
Speaker 3: Beverly Hillbillies. My dad went out shooting in some food.

2364
01:56:17,560 --> 01:56:20,800
Speaker 3: Up came some oil and we moved out to Los Angeles.

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01:56:21,040 --> 01:56:23,560
Speaker 3: So when we moved out there, my parents bought me

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01:56:23,640 --> 01:56:27,320
Speaker 3: a Porsche. Okay, you ready for that? A Porsche, and

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01:56:27,400 --> 01:56:31,120
Speaker 3: I was driving it like a I can't even use

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01:56:31,160 --> 01:56:32,960
Speaker 3: the word like I was, and I got pulled over

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01:56:33,000 --> 01:56:35,320
Speaker 3: by the police, and I thought I was going to

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01:56:35,360 --> 01:56:39,640
Speaker 3: get a ticket. To this day, this was gosh, forty

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01:56:39,680 --> 01:56:42,360
Speaker 3: something years ago. And the cop goes, I ought to

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01:56:42,400 --> 01:56:45,280
Speaker 3: pull you out of this car right now and beat

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01:56:45,560 --> 01:56:49,920
Speaker 3: your blank It's people like it's kids like you that

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01:56:50,080 --> 01:56:53,160
Speaker 3: drive around with their head up there, blank and blank.

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01:56:53,680 --> 01:56:57,280
Speaker 3: And this guy let me have it. I mean for

2376
01:56:57,320 --> 01:57:00,720
Speaker 3: a good fifteen minutes. And I wasn't gonna write me

2377
01:57:00,760 --> 01:57:03,920
Speaker 3: a ticket. He just said, I'm for fifteen minutes, I'm

2378
01:57:03,920 --> 01:57:06,120
Speaker 3: going to berate the hell out of you. And at

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01:57:06,160 --> 01:57:07,560
Speaker 3: the end, you're not gonna know if I'm gonna put

2380
01:57:07,560 --> 01:57:09,480
Speaker 3: you out of his car and beat your aunt.

2381
01:57:09,600 --> 01:57:11,560
Speaker 2: I wish that you that I just gave you a ticket.

2382
01:57:12,000 --> 01:57:15,280
Speaker 3: Never forgot it in my life. And I sat there

2383
01:57:15,360 --> 01:57:18,120
Speaker 3: after he left and I was shook it up.

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01:57:18,200 --> 01:57:21,400
Speaker 2: Man, I'm like, wow, and you haven't driven one mile

2385
01:57:21,400 --> 01:57:22,120
Speaker 2: an hour over.

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01:57:21,960 --> 01:57:24,600
Speaker 3: The set limit to right. I don't, well, you know,

2387
01:57:24,760 --> 01:57:27,120
Speaker 3: maybe I happened. I didn't do what I was doing

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01:57:27,160 --> 01:57:29,760
Speaker 3: back in the day when I had a Porsche doing

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01:57:29,920 --> 01:57:33,720
Speaker 3: eighty and ninety and one hundred. I learned my lesson.

2390
01:57:33,840 --> 01:57:37,120
Speaker 3: He really shook me up. This was maybe the carriage days, right,

2391
01:57:38,160 --> 01:57:42,040
Speaker 3: thank you. Maybe maybe that's your carriage, Yeah, exactly, Maybe

2392
01:57:42,080 --> 01:57:44,320
Speaker 3: that's what should do her needs. But yeah, it is

2393
01:57:44,320 --> 01:57:47,440
Speaker 3: a big deal because it happened twice and I didn't

2394
01:57:47,480 --> 01:57:50,800
Speaker 3: see the video. Was he rude to the police officer?

2395
01:57:51,000 --> 01:57:53,160
Speaker 3: I heard a rumor that he that he was rude.

2396
01:57:53,160 --> 01:57:55,920
Speaker 3: I can't believe that was that true or what problem is?

2397
01:57:55,920 --> 01:57:58,840
Speaker 2: There's a microscope on everything he does, so right, this

2398
01:57:58,920 --> 01:58:01,840
Speaker 2: is the kind of stuff you can do, not at all,

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01:58:02,000 --> 01:58:06,200
Speaker 2: You just can't at anyway. You mentioned you mentioned Henry Ruggs. Yeah,

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01:58:06,280 --> 01:58:11,720
Speaker 2: Henry Ruggs was actually at a Hope for Prisoners event. Yes, yes,

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01:58:12,160 --> 01:58:15,680
Speaker 2: in Vegas and his comments actually have him in front

2402
01:58:15,720 --> 01:58:18,720
Speaker 2: of me. It's both heartbreaking, but it does show growth,

2403
01:58:18,800 --> 01:58:21,200
Speaker 2: like there's not anything you can do to do anything

2404
01:58:21,280 --> 01:58:24,240
Speaker 2: he said. He said at the event, like he was

2405
01:58:24,280 --> 01:58:26,640
Speaker 2: asked what he would say to the family, and he said,

2406
01:58:26,640 --> 01:58:28,560
Speaker 2: I wish I could turn back the hands of time.

2407
01:58:28,880 --> 01:58:30,880
Speaker 2: I would love for them to meet the real Henry

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01:58:30,960 --> 01:58:33,720
Speaker 2: Ruggs and not the one that was escaping for something.

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01:58:34,400 --> 01:58:37,000
Speaker 2: I sincerely apologize for not only being a part of

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01:58:37,000 --> 01:58:39,320
Speaker 2: that situation, but the fact my face is always in

2411
01:58:39,400 --> 01:58:41,600
Speaker 2: the news. It's always in the newspapers, so they have

2412
01:58:41,680 --> 01:58:45,600
Speaker 2: to constantly be reminded of the situation, be reminded of me.

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01:58:45,880 --> 01:58:47,000
Speaker 2: That's a direct quote.

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01:58:48,040 --> 01:58:49,440
Speaker 3: Real quick, I want to say, you know, I had

2415
01:58:49,440 --> 01:58:52,040
Speaker 3: Bill Guttwiler on. You guys won't know who he was.

2416
01:58:52,640 --> 01:58:57,400
Speaker 3: His wife was killed accidentally in a car crash and

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01:58:57,480 --> 01:59:00,920
Speaker 3: the other car was driven by Leonard Little, the former NFL.

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01:59:00,960 --> 01:59:04,000
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, I remember that story. Yeah, And it.

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01:59:03,960 --> 01:59:06,960
Speaker 3: Is just heartbreaking. And I've had Bill on a couple

2420
01:59:06,960 --> 01:59:10,040
Speaker 3: of times. It just shakes you up to the core,

2421
01:59:10,400 --> 01:59:11,200
Speaker 3: absolutely shit.

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01:59:11,200 --> 01:59:13,160
Speaker 2: Feel up to the court, like what Henry Ruggs did

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01:59:13,360 --> 01:59:15,920
Speaker 2: and one hundred and fifty six miles per hour and

2424
01:59:16,840 --> 01:59:19,800
Speaker 2: just his comments like you can see that remorse, you

2425
01:59:19,840 --> 01:59:22,520
Speaker 2: can see that he realizes the effects. And of course

2426
01:59:22,560 --> 01:59:24,840
Speaker 2: he'll be in jail now for three to ten years

2427
01:59:24,960 --> 01:59:27,080
Speaker 2: or whatever. It is, all right, you got the thunder right.

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01:59:27,320 --> 01:59:30,960
Speaker 3: I'm going with the Thunder by eight points four one six.

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01:59:31,640 --> 01:59:33,280
Speaker 2: That's about where I am. I think they'll win it

2430
01:59:33,280 --> 01:59:35,880
Speaker 2: by double digits. I think I'll be wearing my hat

2431
01:59:35,920 --> 01:59:38,920
Speaker 2: all day tomorrow my Thunder hat as well. Bernie Frado

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01:59:39,040 --> 01:59:40,320
Speaker 2: follows us. Always a pleasure.

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01:59:40,480 --> 01:59:42,960
Speaker 3: I appreciate you, brother, He's up next. Thank you for

2434
01:59:43,040 --> 01:59:43,920
Speaker 3: having me my friend.

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01:59:45,160 --> 01:59:47,560
Speaker 2: All right, guys, enjoy your Sunday Game Seven's the best

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01:59:47,600 --> 01:59:48,960
Speaker 2: time in sports.