WEBVTT - INTERVIEW: Nina Turner & Derrick Dowdell Talk Training, Energizing Voters + More 0:00:00.480 --> 0:00:03.680 Wake that ass up in the morning. Breakfast Club. 0:00:04.920 --> 0:00:07.440 Yeah, it's the world most dangerous morning short the Breakfast Club. Charlamage, 0:00:07.480 --> 0:00:09.840 the god just hilarious. Envy is not here with us today, 0:00:09.880 --> 0:00:12.639 but we got some very special guests. A friend in 0:00:12.720 --> 0:00:16.360 the room, Miss Senna Denina Turner his hair, Good morning morning, 0:00:16.880 --> 0:00:19.560 and you know last time Senator Turner was his she. 0:00:19.800 --> 0:00:20.920 Did to swirl. 0:00:20.960 --> 0:00:21.360 That's right. 0:00:21.360 --> 0:00:23.400 We were talking about how good you and you know 0:00:23.480 --> 0:00:25.919 you said you wanted to bring your trainer, Derek Dowdell. 0:00:26.000 --> 0:00:28.680 Am I pronouncing that Derek Dadell, Good morning, dare all right, 0:00:29.520 --> 0:00:31.040 blessed Black and Holly play with brother. 0:00:31.600 --> 0:00:32.520 Black Andy Fame. 0:00:32.600 --> 0:00:35.960 How did y'all link up the Oh my god, that 0:00:36.080 --> 0:00:36.639 was a wild ago. 0:00:36.680 --> 0:00:37.640 About ten years ago. 0:00:38.560 --> 0:00:41.360 I was training up at Title Boxing, teaching class for 0:00:41.440 --> 0:00:45.680 boxing and she came in not knowing what she was doing. 0:00:45.760 --> 0:00:50.320 Awful, awful, damning to morning. 0:00:51.400 --> 0:00:54.160 You know, we just formed the formed the board, start 0:00:54.240 --> 0:00:56.080 talking and she needed some training. 0:00:56.160 --> 0:00:58.720 So I looked out, you gotta talking to the mike. Derek, 0:00:58.800 --> 0:01:01.160 Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, So I looked out for it 0:01:01.240 --> 0:01:01.520 for the. 0:01:01.480 --> 0:01:02.440 Training and. 0:01:04.000 --> 0:01:08.240 Ever since we consider ourselves sisters and brothers. He's been 0:01:08.280 --> 0:01:10.920 in my life through thick and thin. And that's really 0:01:10.959 --> 0:01:13.319 a big deal because working out is a mental it's 0:01:13.360 --> 0:01:15.240 for your mentals and I know, sharp for you the 0:01:15.319 --> 0:01:17.959 mental health thing or just kind of self awareness, it's 0:01:17.959 --> 0:01:21.000 not even mental health is about self awareness of what 0:01:21.040 --> 0:01:23.560 you need and physical activity is very much a part 0:01:23.600 --> 0:01:25.200 of that. And one of the things I love about him. 0:01:25.440 --> 0:01:27.120 You can come into the gym and if you he 0:01:27.240 --> 0:01:30.520 knows when you're not right. And so I'm kind of 0:01:30.560 --> 0:01:32.560 I'm an introvert. A lot of people don't know that, 0:01:32.959 --> 0:01:34.960 but I go in and if my mind ain't right, 0:01:34.959 --> 0:01:37.240 he'll ask what's wrong with you? And I say no, 0:01:37.280 --> 0:01:39.520 he's I'm asking you a question, what's wrong with you? 0:01:39.920 --> 0:01:42.240 And he'll he'll probe until you kind of tell him 0:01:42.360 --> 0:01:44.800 you know what's wrong. And not every kind of trainer 0:01:44.840 --> 0:01:46.679 does that. Some of them are just really concerned about 0:01:46.680 --> 0:01:50.520 physical and it's a mental exercise too. And he's seen 0:01:50.600 --> 0:01:54.160 me up and down. He's seen me really small from stress. 0:01:54.800 --> 0:01:57.560 And again a trainer might say, oh, I got you know, 0:01:57.600 --> 0:01:59.120 she lost a whole lot of weight. That's good. He 0:01:59.160 --> 0:02:00.680 was like, oh no, this ain't good. This is good 0:02:00.720 --> 0:02:02.760 because it's the way you lost the weight and you 0:02:02.800 --> 0:02:05.800 look sick, unhealthy, and you know, lost everything, And I 0:02:05.800 --> 0:02:08.240 couldn't need to go eat some French fries, some soup tape, possum. 0:02:11.200 --> 0:02:15.760 I don't want no hummers, no sale. That was only 0:02:15.760 --> 0:02:18.720 in that situation. But the moral of the story is 0:02:18.720 --> 0:02:21.639 it's not just about how much weight you lose, it's 0:02:21.680 --> 0:02:24.120 how you lose it. And it's about your mentals too. 0:02:24.400 --> 0:02:26.200 And he combines to two very well. 0:02:26.520 --> 0:02:28.399 Are you like that with your other clients as well? 0:02:29.200 --> 0:02:29.720 Oh question? 0:02:29.880 --> 0:02:32.800 Yeah, I stay on, I stay on my clients. Yeah, 0:02:33.200 --> 0:02:35.440 be cool, all we all have a good good bye. 0:02:36.160 --> 0:02:37.240 Be bossy though too. 0:02:38.639 --> 0:02:42.960 Straight? Right? Yeah, you know, I don't like when people late. 0:02:43.480 --> 0:02:44.880 Oh my god, to. 0:02:44.840 --> 0:02:48.040 Get people right? O. Man? You even know when I 0:02:48.160 --> 0:02:50.160 you know, he wants us to text when we're not 0:02:50.200 --> 0:02:52.720 coming and I'll come in and sometimes, you know, I'm 0:02:52.720 --> 0:02:55.120 traveling a lot and I want text. He said, you 0:02:55.120 --> 0:02:55.680 think you grown. 0:02:55.919 --> 0:02:56.519 That's a problem. 0:02:58.160 --> 0:02:59.040 Let me know you want. 0:03:03.520 --> 0:03:05.560 For what you claim? 0:03:05.720 --> 0:03:08.560 Yeah, of discipline as well, Like you're teaching. You're not 0:03:08.560 --> 0:03:11.440 only teaching. I mean you're not only training, you're teaching, 0:03:11.520 --> 0:03:12.959 you're actually Yeah, discipline. 0:03:13.000 --> 0:03:13.400 I like that. 0:03:13.720 --> 0:03:16.120 How did you get into fitness? O? 0:03:16.400 --> 0:03:19.080 We so I was. I was. I was a truck 0:03:19.160 --> 0:03:19.960 driver and. 0:03:23.880 --> 0:03:24.000 River. 0:03:27.000 --> 0:03:28.000 I was a truck driver. 0:03:28.120 --> 0:03:31.640 So you know what's happening chess issues. So I went 0:03:31.680 --> 0:03:34.200 to the doctor. I was two seventy five. I was 0:03:34.200 --> 0:03:37.080 a big boy. So the doctor was like, yeah, man, 0:03:37.120 --> 0:03:39.520 you you're on the verge of having a heart attack 0:03:39.560 --> 0:03:40.440 at twenty eight something. 0:03:40.480 --> 0:03:42.960 I said, oh, no, we can't. Yeah, right, it was serious. 0:03:43.080 --> 0:03:45.880 Widow maker was closed with the widow Maker had blocked out. 0:03:46.040 --> 0:03:47.240 No, no, it was no. 0:03:47.360 --> 0:03:51.880 It was just doing too much, you know, eating, crazy, drinking, 0:03:52.240 --> 0:03:53.040 just doing too much. 0:03:53.200 --> 0:03:53.800 Out of shape. 0:03:53.840 --> 0:03:57.120 So uh, you know, I started working out, got in 0:03:57.240 --> 0:04:00.960 good shape, and then I have always been passionate about 0:04:01.000 --> 0:04:01.400 working out. 0:04:02.040 --> 0:04:04.560 And then it just went from there and took off. Yeah, 0:04:04.600 --> 0:04:05.040 took off. 0:04:05.080 --> 0:04:05.880 It just clicked. 0:04:06.040 --> 0:04:08.560 And while we're on that sear and just I want 0:04:08.600 --> 0:04:10.680 to shout out a young lady. Her name is Moriel 0:04:10.800 --> 0:04:13.960 McCain and she I know you do the women's history. 0:04:14.000 --> 0:04:17.359 Someone put black history and women's history together. She just 0:04:17.440 --> 0:04:21.240 made Team USA and boxing. She's from Cleveland. She's the 0:04:21.279 --> 0:04:24.800 first woman and the first black woman to make Team 0:04:24.960 --> 0:04:28.560 USA in the boxing category from Ohio. Her name is 0:04:28.640 --> 0:04:32.040 Morel McCain and she's raising money to try to get 0:04:32.040 --> 0:04:34.080 her family to be able to go to Paris with her, 0:04:34.640 --> 0:04:36.400 and so I just want to shout her out. Her 0:04:36.480 --> 0:04:41.360 instagram is a millionaire moll. So for anybody out there 0:04:41.360 --> 0:04:44.360 that wants to help a young African American woman who 0:04:44.480 --> 0:04:47.200 is on the rise and doing the thing and just representing. 0:04:47.480 --> 0:04:50.400 And I know you like your little boxing too. You 0:04:50.440 --> 0:04:52.880 got in the ring with somebody from Cleveland. I'm blinking 0:04:52.920 --> 0:05:00.680 on his name. Yeah, shout out to Sean. Yeah, oh yeah, 0:05:00.720 --> 0:05:04.520 I watched the video. Yeah, he was talking all kinds, 0:05:04.520 --> 0:05:05.440 you know, but. 0:05:05.960 --> 0:05:08.480 He did that. He did that a little bit. 0:05:08.560 --> 0:05:16.880 Yeah he did. But since we own fitness and I'm 0:05:16.920 --> 0:05:19.240 just really so proud of her. And one of the 0:05:19.240 --> 0:05:21.840 things you guys were talking to the actress Marsha and 0:05:21.880 --> 0:05:24.120 talking about being there for each other and lifting each 0:05:24.160 --> 0:05:25.760 other up. And that's why I want to shout that 0:05:25.839 --> 0:05:28.279 young lady out. And one of the reasons why, you know, 0:05:28.320 --> 0:05:30.400 I brought my trainer. One of the things just in 0:05:30.440 --> 0:05:33.320 my relationship with Charlemagne over the years, and we met 0:05:33.839 --> 0:05:37.279 when he moderated when Senator Sanders was running in twenty sixteen, 0:05:37.320 --> 0:05:41.080 he moderated a panel at Apollo and thanks to figure O. 0:05:41.360 --> 0:05:43.880 That's how I call Teslaing. That's my girl. She advises 0:05:43.880 --> 0:05:46.680 me on politics. You know, really pressed the campaign to 0:05:46.720 --> 0:05:48.599 do a lot of black outreach and that's how shar 0:05:48.720 --> 0:05:51.320 and I became friends and we just clicked and we've 0:05:51.360 --> 0:05:54.159 been together ever since. But he really lifts up and 0:05:54.200 --> 0:05:56.680 he especially lifts up black women. And that's what I 0:05:56.680 --> 0:06:01.599 love is something particularly spectacular delicious when it's our men 0:06:01.960 --> 0:06:04.480 living us up and shout out to Michael River too, 0:06:04.560 --> 0:06:08.320 killer Mic the same thing. And when people like defend 0:06:08.360 --> 0:06:10.680 you in public because for me, I'm a lightning rod. 0:06:11.160 --> 0:06:13.479 So doctor rushad Ritchie of T y T, which I 0:06:13.480 --> 0:06:15.839 hope you guys will have on, is another one of those. 0:06:15.920 --> 0:06:20.480 When our men defend us in public when people come 0:06:20.520 --> 0:06:23.400 it ain't nothing like it. You know, God's love is strong, 0:06:23.480 --> 0:06:26.080 but black love is right under that. And so I 0:06:26.320 --> 0:06:31.120 just you know, I just got a shout it out right. 0:06:31.240 --> 0:06:33.320 Yeah you know that. 0:06:33.480 --> 0:06:34.960 You're a fitness guy, yes, sir. 0:06:35.000 --> 0:06:37.159 What's your thoughts on this whole Olympic era? Everybody's inn 0:06:37.200 --> 0:06:42.279 Olympic gold medalist, gold medal. 0:06:43.920 --> 0:06:45.880 I mean, if it works for you, it works for 0:06:45.920 --> 0:06:49.800 you me personally, I mean I mean, I don't know, 0:06:49.960 --> 0:06:51.040 you know, because I know a lot. 0:06:50.920 --> 0:06:55.200 Of people use it, but all, like I say, if 0:06:55.240 --> 0:06:56.320 it works for you, it works for you. 0:06:56.400 --> 0:07:00.320 I mean it started with a diabetes thing, but hey 0:07:00.320 --> 0:07:03.279 they found another way to work it and it works 0:07:03.320 --> 0:07:05.719 well because I know people personally that's on it and 0:07:05.760 --> 0:07:10.680 they shrink up. You still need to, yeah, so you 0:07:10.760 --> 0:07:13.680 never know the long term side effects. But I know 0:07:13.760 --> 0:07:16.240 with those zemp you it'll have you flabby too, So 0:07:16.320 --> 0:07:18.320 you gotta get that work in too. It's just not 0:07:18.760 --> 0:07:22.000 you can it'll it'll stop you from eating. You know, 0:07:22.040 --> 0:07:24.520 it's all kind of side effects of how you constipate it. 0:07:24.520 --> 0:07:25.720 It's different things. 0:07:25.480 --> 0:07:28.280 But it will have you lose the weight, but you 0:07:28.320 --> 0:07:30.200 know you also get flabby, So you gotta get that 0:07:30.200 --> 0:07:30.480 work in. 0:07:30.560 --> 0:07:32.960 Come see me anyway. 0:07:34.600 --> 0:07:36.600 How do they come? How they reach it? 0:07:36.880 --> 0:07:42.440 Yeah, Dereck Dowdale Training, get it. Get d DT dot 0:07:42.480 --> 0:07:45.200 com and you can look me up on Instagram. Derek 0:07:45.240 --> 0:07:49.400 Dade Training the world right, absolutely, no question. 0:07:49.320 --> 0:07:49.960 No question. 0:07:50.160 --> 0:07:52.480 So if you can stop something, because I'm on listen, 0:07:53.080 --> 0:07:55.040 I got like a couple of friends that were like you, 0:07:55.280 --> 0:07:57.520 I'm thinking about doing o them and I'm like, but 0:07:57.640 --> 0:08:00.640 you don't you don't need it should you know, my 0:08:01.040 --> 0:08:04.080 insurance people, it's a lot of people using it being lazy, 0:08:04.320 --> 0:08:06.160 right right, you know what I'm saying. So what are 0:08:06.160 --> 0:08:09.160 some things like you can do? I mean, you you know, 0:08:09.320 --> 0:08:12.160 some tips that you can just throw out there that 0:08:12.160 --> 0:08:13.680 that can help you unbid your back. 0:08:14.000 --> 0:08:17.760 Oh man, big back something now and big back to 0:08:17.840 --> 0:08:18.240 something now. 0:08:18.720 --> 0:08:20.280 I mean, first of all, you got to be stop 0:08:20.320 --> 0:08:23.360 being lazy because, uh, we live in a microwave society now, 0:08:23.360 --> 0:08:26.880 so people want instagratification and they just want ooh it's gone. 0:08:26.920 --> 0:08:29.320 But now you gotta get up. You gotta work out. 0:08:29.360 --> 0:08:31.960 I mean just walking every day, you know, come go 0:08:32.040 --> 0:08:34.840 to the trail mill, go to elliptical something, you know. 0:08:35.240 --> 0:08:37.160 But one thing I know you can't teach. You can't 0:08:37.200 --> 0:08:40.760 teach sacrifice. So people, you know, if you can't sacrifice 0:08:41.240 --> 0:08:42.960 the time for yourself. 0:08:42.720 --> 0:08:45.360 Then I mean it's a it's a downhill for you. 0:08:45.480 --> 0:08:45.720 Yeah. 0:08:45.800 --> 0:08:47.280 And part of it is in the kitchen too. I 0:08:47.280 --> 0:08:50.000 mean I joked about how small I got, which he 0:08:50.080 --> 0:08:52.560 was very concerned about that. But eighty five percent of 0:08:52.600 --> 0:08:55.520 it is in the kitchen. He talked to us about that. 0:08:55.559 --> 0:08:59.160 And he eases you into it because eating should be pleasurable. 0:08:59.679 --> 0:09:03.959 But you can't outwork a bad diet. You can't outwork 0:09:04.000 --> 0:09:05.840 when you're not eating properly. And it has to be 0:09:05.840 --> 0:09:10.040 a lifestyle. So I use the word diet kind of lightly. 0:09:10.080 --> 0:09:12.000 I don't even like using that word really, but it's 0:09:12.040 --> 0:09:14.960 a lifestyle change and it's a combination. I've been up 0:09:15.000 --> 0:09:18.559 and I've been down. I've been up and down. Stress 0:09:18.559 --> 0:09:23.040 could go either way, and it is only when the mind, 0:09:23.120 --> 0:09:26.680 the body, and the spirit really came into that intersection 0:09:26.840 --> 0:09:30.200 together that I found myself where I am right now. 0:09:30.280 --> 0:09:32.760 And I'm healthier, you know, only I guess when I 0:09:32.760 --> 0:09:35.440 was in high school running track. I'm just as healthy 0:09:35.480 --> 0:09:39.400 as I was then, and it's a beautiful, beautiful feeling. 0:09:39.480 --> 0:09:42.440 But if I ever let the mind body connection go 0:09:42.559 --> 0:09:45.640 off track, you could lose it. So we're always up 0:09:45.679 --> 0:09:48.120 and down in life, right, it's called life, But you 0:09:48.280 --> 0:09:50.120 just got to be conscious of it. And having a 0:09:50.160 --> 0:09:53.880 personal trainer keeps you conscious of it. All great athletes 0:09:53.920 --> 0:09:56.559 have coaches. They're not doing that out here rolling by themselves, 0:09:56.960 --> 0:09:59.120 and that's what I consider him my coach. 0:09:59.679 --> 0:10:02.680 Listen, I had a personal training too. Look, I was 0:10:02.720 --> 0:10:03.959 doing everything except for. 0:10:03.880 --> 0:10:04.640 The vegan stuff. 0:10:04.640 --> 0:10:06.560 I don't need to eat a bunch of plants and 0:10:06.559 --> 0:10:09.240 bird food to be healthy. I can eat what I want. 0:10:09.520 --> 0:10:11.839 My problem was I was eating and then laying right down. 0:10:12.360 --> 0:10:14.640 That's when that can also cause other stuff too, you know, 0:10:14.920 --> 0:10:16.360 clogged arteries, all types of stuff. 0:10:16.840 --> 0:10:18.760 But I work hard. 0:10:18.840 --> 0:10:20.920 I mean, I had a six pack and I'm pregnant. 0:10:20.920 --> 0:10:23.400 I'm about to be five months pregnant. People was like, 0:10:23.800 --> 0:10:25.920 how did you you you're pregnant? 0:10:25.960 --> 0:10:27.080 You still got a six pack? 0:10:27.200 --> 0:10:30.439 Yes, I do, And I'm a little mad because my 0:10:30.880 --> 0:10:33.280 little baby is she busted all the way through it. 0:10:33.800 --> 0:10:35.679 But I had ebbs. 0:10:35.520 --> 0:10:38.200 At three months and four months pregnant. But come on, 0:10:38.640 --> 0:10:39.320 and people, don't. 0:10:39.480 --> 0:10:39.760 You don't. 0:10:39.760 --> 0:10:41.520 You don't see nor the bellies like that. 0:10:42.080 --> 0:10:47.400 You don't when I dried over baby, I'm gonna get back. 0:10:47.720 --> 0:10:49.280 You can hold it against her for the rest of 0:10:49.320 --> 0:10:51.000 her life. Let me tell you something. My son is 0:10:51.440 --> 0:10:55.679 a thirty three and shout out to my first unconditional love. 0:10:56.880 --> 0:10:59.680 It's my baby boy. And I still call my baby 0:10:59.679 --> 0:11:02.080 even though thirty three. That's my baby. But yeah, I 0:11:02.120 --> 0:11:03.800 hold it against them. Every time I look at the 0:11:03.800 --> 0:11:06.560 stretch marks, I'm like, you did this to me. You 0:11:06.600 --> 0:11:09.240 owe me but no, we can say, hey, almost died 0:11:09.320 --> 0:11:12.560 for you. But I mean maternal Uh, you know, black 0:11:12.559 --> 0:11:17.880 women mentality rate and maternal rates are very high. We 0:11:17.960 --> 0:11:20.280 gotta I'm joking about that, but that's serious. It a 0:11:20.360 --> 0:11:23.160 sacrifice that you're making. Yeah, but shout out to you 0:11:23.200 --> 0:11:25.800 for being and you're gonna lay a strong foundation for 0:11:26.120 --> 0:11:29.560 your baby about health and black people. We need all 0:11:29.559 --> 0:11:32.880 people needed, but the type of stress that black people, man, 0:11:33.720 --> 0:11:37.079 we need to be out there walking and jogging and 0:11:37.320 --> 0:11:38.160 doing it. Yeah. 0:11:39.400 --> 0:11:40.920 You know when it comes to the training you're doing, 0:11:41.280 --> 0:11:44.800 I mean, is it preparing you for this fight that 0:11:44.840 --> 0:11:46.640 we're gonna be in for the next few months or 0:11:46.880 --> 0:11:47.800 are you even fighting? 0:11:48.120 --> 0:11:51.000 I'm fighting, okay, you know I'm always fighting. One of 0:11:51.000 --> 0:11:54.240 my dear counselors said, you live in opposition, said, you know, 0:11:54.360 --> 0:11:56.520 let me decorating that, mother, I mean, let me decorate 0:11:56.600 --> 0:11:57.080 them like that. 0:11:58.000 --> 0:11:59.599 You might have put that in here. 0:11:59.600 --> 0:12:03.280 Living mean, let mean, let me move the furniture. Now, 0:12:03.400 --> 0:12:05.760 let me put some photos up on the wall. No, 0:12:05.880 --> 0:12:08.400 I am sure, because I'm very concerned about what's happening 0:12:08.480 --> 0:12:10.960 right now. You know what's happening all over the world. 0:12:11.080 --> 0:12:14.120 You know, whether it's Haiti, the Congo Sudan, and I 0:12:14.200 --> 0:12:17.680 talked about a whole lot. And I know on Front 0:12:17.679 --> 0:12:20.320 Page News you guys went into Haiti with with FIGUREO, 0:12:20.720 --> 0:12:22.920 but also what's happening in the gaza and so yeah, 0:12:23.000 --> 0:12:25.120 I need to be especially the type of work that 0:12:25.160 --> 0:12:27.360 I do, and I'm a lightning ride all the time. 0:12:27.520 --> 0:12:29.800 People try to come for me. Yeah, I gotta be 0:12:29.880 --> 0:12:32.360 mentally and physical. Oh yeah, I'm training. I'm training for 0:12:32.480 --> 0:12:34.840 this battle. Oh yeah, I care very much. 0:12:34.920 --> 0:12:37.000 It's the Biden Trump remaster, the remash. 0:12:37.080 --> 0:12:38.280 Nobody wants, that's right. 0:12:38.360 --> 0:12:40.520 And you've been saying preaching that gospel from the beginning. 0:12:40.679 --> 0:12:44.640 Man, what should they be doing to energize people to 0:12:44.720 --> 0:12:45.360 come out of the world. 0:12:45.400 --> 0:12:48.600 Well, Trump's people energized right already. Biden's people are not 0:12:48.640 --> 0:12:52.800 so much. Because this president has to really deliver material changes. 0:12:53.200 --> 0:12:55.680 And so you can't come out for bipartisanship when it 0:12:55.679 --> 0:12:58.440 comes to increasing the military budget, right, but you can't 0:12:58.440 --> 0:13:01.439 be bipartisan for universal health care. You know, you got 0:13:01.480 --> 0:13:05.360 Republican led states in this country who won't pay for 0:13:05.559 --> 0:13:07.960 who won't use tax dollars to pay for free lunch 0:13:08.240 --> 0:13:11.199 and free breakfast. Students? Are you know going to bed 0:13:11.240 --> 0:13:13.400 Homegren come to school, that all of that kind of 0:13:13.440 --> 0:13:16.040 stuff is wrong. So to energize, do the thing that 0:13:16.080 --> 0:13:20.440 will energize people to come and cancel all students that 0:13:20.559 --> 0:13:23.360 not just some. I mean, I think it's an absolute lie. 0:13:23.440 --> 0:13:26.320 If he can cancel some, he can cancel all. And 0:13:26.360 --> 0:13:29.160 in particularly what's happening in the Gaza. You know, over 0:13:29.320 --> 0:13:34.080 like sixty percent of Democrats, like his voters, believe that 0:13:34.120 --> 0:13:37.000 there is genocide going on in the Gaza. But yet 0:13:37.040 --> 0:13:40.280 this president won't move on that. He won't say that 0:13:40.440 --> 0:13:43.800 enough is enough. Almost forty thousand people have died. When 0:13:43.880 --> 0:13:45.280 you talk about the people who are still alive and 0:13:45.320 --> 0:13:48.840 living in famine hospitals being blown up, they can't get food. 0:13:49.320 --> 0:13:52.280 Younger people especially are saying, not on our watch are 0:13:52.280 --> 0:13:54.040 we gonna continue to allow this? So I think if 0:13:54.120 --> 0:13:59.040 this president pivots stronger, more strongly, not just words and deeds, 0:13:59.640 --> 0:14:02.080 to say that you know, this genocized stuff got an end, 0:14:02.120 --> 0:14:04.880 people will be more energized. Cancel all students that make 0:14:04.880 --> 0:14:07.439 it a universal that those are the kind of things 0:14:07.480 --> 0:14:09.840 increased the minimal cholee on guys. 0:14:09.960 --> 0:14:13.240 And the reason I say that because people are dead. 0:14:13.400 --> 0:14:16.280 Yeah, no, I'm not saying I have met some people. 0:14:16.280 --> 0:14:19.680 I was in Dearborn, Michigan. I was with Congresswoman Rashida Tulee. 0:14:19.760 --> 0:14:22.920 We was on a program together, uh well, a panel, 0:14:23.000 --> 0:14:25.280 not a panel, but a Riley kind of thing together. 0:14:25.520 --> 0:14:28.520 And I've talked to some people and not just Arab Americans, 0:14:28.600 --> 0:14:31.360 not just Palestinians, but I've talked to people from all 0:14:31.400 --> 0:14:34.960 walks of life who are united in what justice looks like, 0:14:35.160 --> 0:14:38.280 who say that they're not voting for Biden under any circumstance. 0:14:38.680 --> 0:14:41.760 So because of the people who are already dead and 0:14:41.800 --> 0:14:43.960 because of the suffering that is going on. But there 0:14:43.960 --> 0:14:46.400 may be a certain segment of people. So we're never 0:14:46.440 --> 0:14:48.840 gonna forget that those people are dead. But there may 0:14:48.880 --> 0:14:52.040 be a certain segment of people who if he if 0:14:52.080 --> 0:14:56.640 he strongly says no more money, then they may say 0:14:56.800 --> 0:14:58.720 we'll we'll go ahead and give you another chance. Because 0:14:58.720 --> 0:15:01.760 Trump is a neo fashion he is dangerous. And I 0:15:01.840 --> 0:15:05.320 often say neo fascism kills you quick, and neoliberalism kills 0:15:05.360 --> 0:15:07.400 you slow. Like we might have twenty four hours of 0:15:07.480 --> 0:15:10.040 oxygen left, we can collaborate and try to figure out 0:15:10.080 --> 0:15:13.480 how to live. But ultimately, if neoliberals don't switch course, 0:15:13.560 --> 0:15:17.160 we still are going to die. And that is the 0:15:17.240 --> 0:15:19.440 problem with America right now. If we could afford to 0:15:19.480 --> 0:15:22.080 send billions of dollars to the Ukraine, billions of dollars 0:15:22.400 --> 0:15:25.640 over to Israel, being wars and disrupting other people's lives 0:15:25.640 --> 0:15:27.520 all around the world, why can't. 0:15:27.320 --> 0:15:29.040 We have universal health care? 0:15:29.200 --> 0:15:32.120 Why can't we have free college or debt free college, 0:15:32.280 --> 0:15:35.600 especially for public schools. Why can't we pass the pro Act? 0:15:35.600 --> 0:15:37.920 Why can't we pass the John Lewis Voting Rights Act? 0:15:38.360 --> 0:15:41.520 What happened the George Floyd Justice Act? What happened to 0:15:41.600 --> 0:15:44.000 all of those things? So they are so fixated on 0:15:44.360 --> 0:15:49.200 war and they are denying what we need domestically. So 0:15:49.800 --> 0:15:52.400 if he doesn't do those things, I predict this, and 0:15:52.400 --> 0:15:55.080 I'm not the only one. If President Biden does not 0:15:55.160 --> 0:15:57.640 switch course, he is going to lose. 0:15:58.160 --> 0:15:59.520 I think he's gonna switch closes, you know, I think 0:15:59.520 --> 0:16:02.080 he's gonna switch to you know, you said something that's true. 0:16:02.160 --> 0:16:03.360 Trump has a. 0:16:03.320 --> 0:16:06.280 Lot of his people motivate, energized, but he doesn't have 0:16:06.280 --> 0:16:08.160 the whole Republican Party energize. 0:16:08.200 --> 0:16:09.320 I don't think so, right. 0:16:09.200 --> 0:16:12.160 And when you see, you know, people that were backing 0:16:12.240 --> 0:16:15.320 Nicki Haley now backing President Biden. Like a lot of 0:16:15.360 --> 0:16:18.600 the donors, I think Biden gonna start courting those people 0:16:18.600 --> 0:16:22.400 who may not be comfortable, all those Republicans that may 0:16:22.400 --> 0:16:24.880 not be comfortable with Trump, those Republicans that wanted to 0:16:25.360 --> 0:16:27.040 Nikki Haley or something else. I think he's gonna start 0:16:27.040 --> 0:16:29.600 paying more attention than them than he will. 0:16:29.360 --> 0:16:32.680 And he'll leave the progressive and the base behind. But 0:16:32.920 --> 0:16:35.560 he won't win that way. Don't forget Trump. You know, 0:16:35.600 --> 0:16:38.800 by the margins in Michigan in twenty sixteen or it 0:16:38.880 --> 0:16:41.640 was ten thousand vote, this is gonna be a margin election. 0:16:41.840 --> 0:16:43.680 There's a difference between what happens in the primary and 0:16:43.680 --> 0:16:46.120 what's gonna happen in the general. And the largest voting 0:16:46.120 --> 0:16:48.200 block will be that block that says I am going 0:16:48.240 --> 0:16:51.720 to stay home. In Wisconsin, for example, Biden only one 0:16:51.840 --> 0:16:56.760 that stayed by about twenty thousand votes. So the margins 0:16:56.800 --> 0:16:58.240 are going to make a difference. But you're right, he 0:16:58.320 --> 0:17:01.560 gonna court those folks. But oftentimes where people go, they 0:17:01.560 --> 0:17:04.840 don't want the full conservative, they go for the real thing. 0:17:05.520 --> 0:17:08.520 And so ultimately, why I'm going for the fake when 0:17:08.560 --> 0:17:11.679 I can have the real those voters. He make court 0:17:11.880 --> 0:17:15.720 that he's going to disrupt the coalition, and the coalition 0:17:15.840 --> 0:17:17.080 is just not gonna show up. And that's what I 0:17:17.119 --> 0:17:19.720 love about the uncommit vote. They ain't playing They letting 0:17:19.760 --> 0:17:22.679 them know state after state that hey, we're not playing 0:17:22.680 --> 0:17:25.440 with you. If you don't change course on genocide, we're 0:17:25.440 --> 0:17:27.040 just not coming out. We're not gonna vote for you. 0:17:27.080 --> 0:17:29.520 And that's real. And I wish the black community would 0:17:29.520 --> 0:17:31.840 get a clue and do some of that, like make 0:17:31.920 --> 0:17:34.280 some demands and say, hey, if you don't serve our people, 0:17:34.680 --> 0:17:36.560 you're just not getting our vote, you. 0:17:36.520 --> 0:17:38.280 Know, sending it to turn that Like you know, I've 0:17:38.280 --> 0:17:40.800 said numerous times I don't know what to tell people 0:17:40.800 --> 0:17:43.640 when people tell me they don't care about either candidate, 0:17:43.880 --> 0:17:46.639 when people tell me they're not even energized by the 0:17:46.680 --> 0:17:49.360 political process. I get it for all of the things 0:17:49.400 --> 0:17:51.200 that we're talking about right now, But what would you 0:17:51.240 --> 0:17:53.080 say to people that don't plan on voting this year 0:17:53.119 --> 0:17:54.400 because they don't like either candidate. 0:17:54.840 --> 0:17:57.359 Look, you might not do politics, but politics gonna do 0:17:57.440 --> 0:18:00.720 you. You're gonna get done. You're gonna get done. The system 0:18:00.800 --> 0:18:02.560 gonna do you. So you still got to go out 0:18:02.600 --> 0:18:04.400 to vote. I would say, go vote mad as hell 0:18:04.480 --> 0:18:06.480 if you want to skip that part of the ballot, 0:18:06.520 --> 0:18:08.520 because there are other people on the ballot. Like all 0:18:08.560 --> 0:18:12.120 the energy goes to the presidential But for example, in Ohio, 0:18:12.160 --> 0:18:14.560 we had a Health and Human Services Levee on the ballot. 0:18:15.119 --> 0:18:17.800 So I went in the primary to vote. Not so 0:18:17.920 --> 0:18:20.479 much for what's happening in the presidential race, but there 0:18:20.520 --> 0:18:24.640 were judges on the ballot, people running for other offices 0:18:24.680 --> 0:18:27.120 on the ballot, and then the Health and Human Services levee. 0:18:27.280 --> 0:18:30.080