Speaker 1: Wake that ass up in the morning. Breakfast Club.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's the world most dangerous morning short the Breakfast Club. Charlamage,
Speaker 2: the god just hilarious. Envy is not here with us today,
Speaker 2: but we got some very special guests. A friend in
Speaker 2: the room, Miss Senna Denina Turner his hair, Good morning morning,
Speaker 2: and you know last time Senator Turner was his she.
Speaker 3: Did to swirl.
Speaker 1: That's right.
Speaker 2: We were talking about how good you and you know
Speaker 2: you said you wanted to bring your trainer, Derek Dowdell.
Speaker 2: Am I pronouncing that Derek Dadell, Good morning, dare all right,
Speaker 2: blessed Black and Holly play with brother.
Speaker 3: Black Andy Fame.
Speaker 4: How did y'all link up the Oh my god, that
Speaker 4: was a wild ago.
Speaker 1: About ten years ago.
Speaker 5: I was training up at Title Boxing, teaching class for
Speaker 5: boxing and she came in not knowing what she was doing.
Speaker 6: Awful, awful, damning to morning.
Speaker 5: You know, we just formed the formed the board, start
Speaker 5: talking and she needed some training.
Speaker 1: So I looked out, you gotta talking to the mike. Derek,
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, So I looked out for it
Speaker 1: for the.
Speaker 7: Training and.
Speaker 3: Ever since we consider ourselves sisters and brothers. He's been
Speaker 3: in my life through thick and thin. And that's really
Speaker 3: a big deal because working out is a mental it's
Speaker 3: for your mentals and I know, sharp for you the
Speaker 3: mental health thing or just kind of self awareness, it's
Speaker 3: not even mental health is about self awareness of what
Speaker 3: you need and physical activity is very much a part
Speaker 3: of that. And one of the things I love about him.
Speaker 3: You can come into the gym and if you he
Speaker 3: knows when you're not right. And so I'm kind of
Speaker 3: I'm an introvert. A lot of people don't know that,
Speaker 3: but I go in and if my mind ain't right,
Speaker 3: he'll ask what's wrong with you? And I say no,
Speaker 3: he's I'm asking you a question, what's wrong with you?
Speaker 3: And he'll he'll probe until you kind of tell him
Speaker 3: you know what's wrong. And not every kind of trainer
Speaker 3: does that. Some of them are just really concerned about
Speaker 3: physical and it's a mental exercise too. And he's seen
Speaker 3: me up and down. He's seen me really small from stress.
Speaker 3: And again a trainer might say, oh, I got you know,
Speaker 3: she lost a whole lot of weight. That's good. He
Speaker 3: was like, oh no, this ain't good. This is good
Speaker 3: because it's the way you lost the weight and you
Speaker 3: look sick, unhealthy, and you know, lost everything, And I
Speaker 3: couldn't need to go eat some French fries, some soup tape, possum.
Speaker 3: I don't want no hummers, no sale. That was only
Speaker 3: in that situation. But the moral of the story is
Speaker 3: it's not just about how much weight you lose, it's
Speaker 3: how you lose it. And it's about your mentals too.
Speaker 3: And he combines to two very well.
Speaker 4: Are you like that with your other clients as well?
Speaker 7: Oh question?
Speaker 5: Yeah, I stay on, I stay on my clients. Yeah,
Speaker 5: be cool, all we all have a good good bye.
Speaker 3: Be bossy though too.
Speaker 7: Straight? Right? Yeah, you know, I don't like when people late.
Speaker 7: Oh my god, to.
Speaker 3: Get people right? O. Man? You even know when I
Speaker 3: you know, he wants us to text when we're not
Speaker 3: coming and I'll come in and sometimes, you know, I'm
Speaker 3: traveling a lot and I want text. He said, you
Speaker 3: think you grown.
Speaker 1: That's a problem.
Speaker 3: Let me know you want.
Speaker 7: For what you claim?
Speaker 6: Yeah, of discipline as well, Like you're teaching. You're not
Speaker 6: only teaching. I mean you're not only training, you're teaching,
Speaker 6: you're actually Yeah, discipline.
Speaker 3: I like that.
Speaker 4: How did you get into fitness? O?
Speaker 1: We so I was. I was. I was a truck
Speaker 1: driver and.
Speaker 7: River.
Speaker 1: I was a truck driver.
Speaker 5: So you know what's happening chess issues. So I went
Speaker 5: to the doctor. I was two seventy five. I was
Speaker 5: a big boy. So the doctor was like, yeah, man,
Speaker 5: you you're on the verge of having a heart attack
Speaker 5: at twenty eight something.
Speaker 7: I said, oh, no, we can't. Yeah, right, it was serious.
Speaker 2: Widow maker was closed with the widow Maker had blocked out.
Speaker 7: No, no, it was no.
Speaker 5: It was just doing too much, you know, eating, crazy, drinking,
Speaker 5: just doing too much.
Speaker 7: Out of shape.
Speaker 5: So uh, you know, I started working out, got in
Speaker 5: good shape, and then I have always been passionate about
Speaker 5: working out.
Speaker 7: And then it just went from there and took off. Yeah,
Speaker 7: took off.
Speaker 4: It just clicked.
Speaker 3: And while we're on that sear and just I want
Speaker 3: to shout out a young lady. Her name is Moriel
Speaker 3: McCain and she I know you do the women's history.
Speaker 3: Someone put black history and women's history together. She just
Speaker 3: made Team USA and boxing. She's from Cleveland. She's the
Speaker 3: first woman and the first black woman to make Team
Speaker 3: USA in the boxing category from Ohio. Her name is
Speaker 3: Morel McCain and she's raising money to try to get
Speaker 3: her family to be able to go to Paris with her,
Speaker 3: and so I just want to shout her out. Her
Speaker 3: instagram is a millionaire moll. So for anybody out there
Speaker 3: that wants to help a young African American woman who
Speaker 3: is on the rise and doing the thing and just representing.
Speaker 3: And I know you like your little boxing too. You
Speaker 3: got in the ring with somebody from Cleveland. I'm blinking
Speaker 3: on his name. Yeah, shout out to Sean. Yeah, oh yeah,
Speaker 3: I watched the video. Yeah, he was talking all kinds,
Speaker 3: you know, but.
Speaker 7: He did that. He did that a little bit.
Speaker 3: Yeah he did. But since we own fitness and I'm
Speaker 3: just really so proud of her. And one of the
Speaker 3: things you guys were talking to the actress Marsha and
Speaker 3: talking about being there for each other and lifting each
Speaker 3: other up. And that's why I want to shout that
Speaker 3: young lady out. And one of the reasons why, you know,
Speaker 3: I brought my trainer. One of the things just in
Speaker 3: my relationship with Charlemagne over the years, and we met
Speaker 3: when he moderated when Senator Sanders was running in twenty sixteen,
Speaker 3: he moderated a panel at Apollo and thanks to figure O.
Speaker 3: That's how I call Teslaing. That's my girl. She advises
Speaker 3: me on politics. You know, really pressed the campaign to
Speaker 3: do a lot of black outreach and that's how shar
Speaker 3: and I became friends and we just clicked and we've
Speaker 3: been together ever since. But he really lifts up and
Speaker 3: he especially lifts up black women. And that's what I
Speaker 3: love is something particularly spectacular delicious when it's our men
Speaker 3: living us up and shout out to Michael River too,
Speaker 3: killer Mic the same thing. And when people like defend
Speaker 3: you in public because for me, I'm a lightning rod.
Speaker 3: So doctor rushad Ritchie of T y T, which I
Speaker 3: hope you guys will have on, is another one of those.
Speaker 3: When our men defend us in public when people come
Speaker 3: it ain't nothing like it. You know, God's love is strong,
Speaker 3: but black love is right under that. And so I
Speaker 3: just you know, I just got a shout it out right.
Speaker 3: Yeah you know that.
Speaker 7: You're a fitness guy, yes, sir.
Speaker 2: What's your thoughts on this whole Olympic era? Everybody's inn
Speaker 2: Olympic gold medalist, gold medal.
Speaker 5: I mean, if it works for you, it works for
Speaker 5: you me personally, I mean I mean, I don't know,
Speaker 5: you know, because I know a lot.
Speaker 1: Of people use it, but all, like I say, if
Speaker 1: it works for you, it works for you.
Speaker 5: I mean it started with a diabetes thing, but hey
Speaker 5: they found another way to work it and it works
Speaker 5: well because I know people personally that's on it and
Speaker 5: they shrink up. You still need to, yeah, so you
Speaker 5: never know the long term side effects. But I know
Speaker 5: with those zemp you it'll have you flabby too, So
Speaker 5: you gotta get that work in too. It's just not
Speaker 5: you can it'll it'll stop you from eating. You know,
Speaker 5: it's all kind of side effects of how you constipate it.
Speaker 7: It's different things.
Speaker 5: But it will have you lose the weight, but you
Speaker 5: know you also get flabby, So you gotta get that
Speaker 5: work in.
Speaker 7: Come see me anyway.
Speaker 1: How do they come? How they reach it?
Speaker 5: Yeah, Dereck Dowdale Training, get it. Get d DT dot
Speaker 5: com and you can look me up on Instagram. Derek
Speaker 5: Dade Training the world right, absolutely, no question.
Speaker 7: No question.
Speaker 6: So if you can stop something, because I'm on listen,
Speaker 6: I got like a couple of friends that were like you,
Speaker 6: I'm thinking about doing o them and I'm like, but
Speaker 6: you don't you don't need it should you know, my
Speaker 6: insurance people, it's a lot of people using it being lazy,
Speaker 6: right right, you know what I'm saying. So what are
Speaker 6: some things like you can do? I mean, you you know,
Speaker 6: some tips that you can just throw out there that
Speaker 6: that can help you unbid your back.
Speaker 7: Oh man, big back something now and big back to
Speaker 7: something now.
Speaker 5: I mean, first of all, you got to be stop
Speaker 5: being lazy because, uh, we live in a microwave society now,
Speaker 5: so people want instagratification and they just want ooh it's gone.
Speaker 7: But now you gotta get up. You gotta work out.
Speaker 5: I mean just walking every day, you know, come go
Speaker 5: to the trail mill, go to elliptical something, you know.
Speaker 5: But one thing I know you can't teach. You can't
Speaker 5: teach sacrifice. So people, you know, if you can't sacrifice
Speaker 5: the time for yourself.
Speaker 7: Then I mean it's a it's a downhill for you.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: And part of it is in the kitchen too. I
Speaker 3: mean I joked about how small I got, which he
Speaker 3: was very concerned about that. But eighty five percent of
Speaker 3: it is in the kitchen. He talked to us about that.
Speaker 3: And he eases you into it because eating should be pleasurable.
Speaker 3: But you can't outwork a bad diet. You can't outwork
Speaker 3: when you're not eating properly. And it has to be
Speaker 3: a lifestyle. So I use the word diet kind of lightly.
Speaker 3: I don't even like using that word really, but it's
Speaker 3: a lifestyle change and it's a combination. I've been up
Speaker 3: and I've been down. I've been up and down. Stress
Speaker 3: could go either way, and it is only when the mind,
Speaker 3: the body, and the spirit really came into that intersection
Speaker 3: together that I found myself where I am right now.
Speaker 3: And I'm healthier, you know, only I guess when I
Speaker 3: was in high school running track. I'm just as healthy
Speaker 3: as I was then, and it's a beautiful, beautiful feeling.
Speaker 3: But if I ever let the mind body connection go
Speaker 3: off track, you could lose it. So we're always up
Speaker 3: and down in life, right, it's called life, But you
Speaker 3: just got to be conscious of it. And having a
Speaker 3: personal trainer keeps you conscious of it. All great athletes
Speaker 3: have coaches. They're not doing that out here rolling by themselves,
Speaker 3: and that's what I consider him my coach.
Speaker 6: Listen, I had a personal training too. Look, I was
Speaker 6: doing everything except for.
Speaker 4: The vegan stuff.
Speaker 6: I don't need to eat a bunch of plants and
Speaker 6: bird food to be healthy. I can eat what I want.
Speaker 6: My problem was I was eating and then laying right down.
Speaker 6: That's when that can also cause other stuff too, you know,
Speaker 6: clogged arteries, all types of stuff.
Speaker 3: But I work hard.
Speaker 6: I mean, I had a six pack and I'm pregnant.
Speaker 6: I'm about to be five months pregnant. People was like,
Speaker 6: how did you you you're pregnant?
Speaker 3: You still got a six pack?
Speaker 6: Yes, I do, And I'm a little mad because my
Speaker 6: little baby is she busted all the way through it.
Speaker 4: But I had ebbs.
Speaker 3: At three months and four months pregnant. But come on,
Speaker 3: and people, don't.
Speaker 2: You don't.
Speaker 4: You don't see nor the bellies like that.
Speaker 6: You don't when I dried over baby, I'm gonna get back.
Speaker 3: You can hold it against her for the rest of
Speaker 3: her life. Let me tell you something. My son is
Speaker 3: a thirty three and shout out to my first unconditional love.
Speaker 3: It's my baby boy. And I still call my baby
Speaker 3: even though thirty three. That's my baby. But yeah, I
Speaker 3: hold it against them. Every time I look at the
Speaker 3: stretch marks, I'm like, you did this to me. You
Speaker 3: owe me but no, we can say, hey, almost died
Speaker 3: for you. But I mean maternal Uh, you know, black
Speaker 3: women mentality rate and maternal rates are very high. We
Speaker 3: gotta I'm joking about that, but that's serious. It a
Speaker 3: sacrifice that you're making. Yeah, but shout out to you
Speaker 3: for being and you're gonna lay a strong foundation for
Speaker 3: your baby about health and black people. We need all
Speaker 3: people needed, but the type of stress that black people, man,
Speaker 3: we need to be out there walking and jogging and
Speaker 3: doing it. Yeah.
Speaker 2: You know when it comes to the training you're doing,
Speaker 2: I mean, is it preparing you for this fight that
Speaker 2: we're gonna be in for the next few months or
Speaker 2: are you even fighting?
Speaker 3: I'm fighting, okay, you know I'm always fighting. One of
Speaker 3: my dear counselors said, you live in opposition, said, you know,
Speaker 3: let me decorating that, mother, I mean, let me decorate
Speaker 3: them like that.
Speaker 1: You might have put that in here.
Speaker 3: Living mean, let mean, let me move the furniture. Now,
Speaker 3: let me put some photos up on the wall. No,
Speaker 3: I am sure, because I'm very concerned about what's happening
Speaker 3: right now. You know what's happening all over the world.
Speaker 3: You know, whether it's Haiti, the Congo Sudan, and I
Speaker 3: talked about a whole lot. And I know on Front
Speaker 3: Page News you guys went into Haiti with with FIGUREO,
Speaker 3: but also what's happening in the gaza and so yeah,
Speaker 3: I need to be especially the type of work that
Speaker 3: I do, and I'm a lightning ride all the time.
Speaker 3: People try to come for me. Yeah, I gotta be
Speaker 3: mentally and physical. Oh yeah, I'm training. I'm training for
Speaker 3: this battle. Oh yeah, I care very much.
Speaker 2: It's the Biden Trump remaster, the remash.
Speaker 1: Nobody wants, that's right.
Speaker 3: And you've been saying preaching that gospel from the beginning.
Speaker 2: Man, what should they be doing to energize people to
Speaker 2: come out of the world.
Speaker 3: Well, Trump's people energized right already. Biden's people are not
Speaker 3: so much. Because this president has to really deliver material changes.
Speaker 3: And so you can't come out for bipartisanship when it
Speaker 3: comes to increasing the military budget, right, but you can't
Speaker 3: be bipartisan for universal health care. You know, you got
Speaker 3: Republican led states in this country who won't pay for
Speaker 3: who won't use tax dollars to pay for free lunch
Speaker 3: and free breakfast. Students? Are you know going to bed
Speaker 3: Homegren come to school, that all of that kind of
Speaker 3: stuff is wrong. So to energize, do the thing that
Speaker 3: will energize people to come and cancel all students that
Speaker 3: not just some. I mean, I think it's an absolute lie.
Speaker 3: If he can cancel some, he can cancel all. And
Speaker 3: in particularly what's happening in the Gaza. You know, over
Speaker 3: like sixty percent of Democrats, like his voters, believe that
Speaker 3: there is genocide going on in the Gaza. But yet
Speaker 3: this president won't move on that. He won't say that
Speaker 3: enough is enough. Almost forty thousand people have died. When
Speaker 3: you talk about the people who are still alive and
Speaker 3: living in famine hospitals being blown up, they can't get food.
Speaker 3: Younger people especially are saying, not on our watch are
Speaker 3: we gonna continue to allow this? So I think if
Speaker 3: this president pivots stronger, more strongly, not just words and deeds,
Speaker 3: to say that you know, this genocized stuff got an end,
Speaker 3: people will be more energized. Cancel all students that make
Speaker 3: it a universal that those are the kind of things
Speaker 3: increased the minimal cholee on guys.
Speaker 2: And the reason I say that because people are dead.
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I'm not saying I have met some people.
Speaker 3: I was in Dearborn, Michigan. I was with Congresswoman Rashida Tulee.
Speaker 3: We was on a program together, uh well, a panel,
Speaker 3: not a panel, but a Riley kind of thing together.
Speaker 3: And I've talked to some people and not just Arab Americans,
Speaker 3: not just Palestinians, but I've talked to people from all
Speaker 3: walks of life who are united in what justice looks like,
Speaker 3: who say that they're not voting for Biden under any circumstance.
Speaker 3: So because of the people who are already dead and
Speaker 3: because of the suffering that is going on. But there
Speaker 3: may be a certain segment of people. So we're never
Speaker 3: gonna forget that those people are dead. But there may
Speaker 3: be a certain segment of people who if he if
Speaker 3: he strongly says no more money, then they may say
Speaker 3: we'll we'll go ahead and give you another chance. Because
Speaker 3: Trump is a neo fashion he is dangerous. And I
Speaker 3: often say neo fascism kills you quick, and neoliberalism kills
Speaker 3: you slow. Like we might have twenty four hours of
Speaker 3: oxygen left, we can collaborate and try to figure out
Speaker 3: how to live. But ultimately, if neoliberals don't switch course,
Speaker 3: we still are going to die. And that is the
Speaker 3: problem with America right now. If we could afford to
Speaker 3: send billions of dollars to the Ukraine, billions of dollars
Speaker 3: over to Israel, being wars and disrupting other people's lives
Speaker 3: all around the world, why can't.
Speaker 4: We have universal health care?
Speaker 3: Why can't we have free college or debt free college,
Speaker 3: especially for public schools. Why can't we pass the pro Act?
Speaker 3: Why can't we pass the John Lewis Voting Rights Act?
Speaker 3: What happened the George Floyd Justice Act? What happened to
Speaker 3: all of those things? So they are so fixated on
Speaker 3: war and they are denying what we need domestically. So
Speaker 3: if he doesn't do those things, I predict this, and
Speaker 3: I'm not the only one. If President Biden does not
Speaker 3: switch course, he is going to lose.
Speaker 2: I think he's gonna switch closes, you know, I think
Speaker 2: he's gonna switch to you know, you said something that's true.
Speaker 4: Trump has a.
Speaker 2: Lot of his people motivate, energized, but he doesn't have
Speaker 2: the whole Republican Party energize.
Speaker 4: I don't think so, right.
Speaker 2: And when you see, you know, people that were backing
Speaker 2: Nicki Haley now backing President Biden. Like a lot of
Speaker 2: the donors, I think Biden gonna start courting those people
Speaker 2: who may not be comfortable, all those Republicans that may
Speaker 2: not be comfortable with Trump, those Republicans that wanted to
Speaker 2: Nikki Haley or something else. I think he's gonna start
Speaker 2: paying more attention than them than he will.
Speaker 3: And he'll leave the progressive and the base behind. But
Speaker 3: he won't win that way. Don't forget Trump. You know,
Speaker 3: by the margins in Michigan in twenty sixteen or it
Speaker 3: was ten thousand vote, this is gonna be a margin election.
Speaker 3: There's a difference between what happens in the primary and
Speaker 3: what's gonna happen in the general. And the largest voting
Speaker 3: block will be that block that says I am going
Speaker 3: to stay home. In Wisconsin, for example, Biden only one
Speaker 3: that stayed by about twenty thousand votes. So the margins
Speaker 3: are going to make a difference. But you're right, he
Speaker 3: gonna court those folks. But oftentimes where people go, they
Speaker 3: don't want the full conservative, they go for the real thing.
Speaker 3: And so ultimately, why I'm going for the fake when
Speaker 3: I can have the real those voters. He make court
Speaker 3: that he's going to disrupt the coalition, and the coalition
Speaker 3: is just not gonna show up. And that's what I
Speaker 3: love about the uncommit vote. They ain't playing They letting
Speaker 3: them know state after state that hey, we're not playing
Speaker 3: with you. If you don't change course on genocide, we're
Speaker 3: just not coming out. We're not gonna vote for you.
Speaker 3: And that's real. And I wish the black community would
Speaker 3: get a clue and do some of that, like make
Speaker 3: some demands and say, hey, if you don't serve our people,
Speaker 3: you're just not getting our vote, you.
Speaker 2: Know, sending it to turn that Like you know, I've
Speaker 2: said numerous times I don't know what to tell people
Speaker 2: when people tell me they don't care about either candidate,
Speaker 2: when people tell me they're not even energized by the
Speaker 2: political process. I get it for all of the things
Speaker 2: that we're talking about right now, But what would you
Speaker 2: say to people that don't plan on voting this year
Speaker 2: because they don't like either candidate.
Speaker 3: Look, you might not do politics, but politics gonna do
Speaker 3: you. You're gonna get done. You're gonna get done. The system
Speaker 3: gonna do you. So you still got to go out
Speaker 3: to vote. I would say, go vote mad as hell
Speaker 3: if you want to skip that part of the ballot,
Speaker 3: because there are other people on the ballot. Like all
Speaker 3: the energy goes to the presidential But for example, in Ohio,
Speaker 3: we had a Health and Human Services Levee on the ballot.
Speaker 3: So I went in the primary to vote. Not so
Speaker 3: much for what's happening in the presidential race, but there
Speaker 3: were judges on the ballot, people running for other offices
Speaker 3: on the ballot, and then the Health and Human Services levee.
Speaker 3: That is the case for every community in this country.
Speaker 3: So they need to go vote and vote mad as hell.
Speaker 3: Now I can't tell this president needs to change course,
Speaker 3: and not just in words but in deeds when they're
Speaker 3: up there hedging about forty thousand people dead. See now
Speaker 3: you're dead wrong. I mean, that's it. At a certain
Speaker 3: point you got to say this is the math. Ain't math?
Speaker 3: And here to quote Andrew Yang, people are have died
Speaker 3: and you can't cover it up. What you can say
Speaker 3: to any allies that not on our watch that we
Speaker 3: got laws in this country, the lay He Law, the
Speaker 3: the Foreign Assistants Act, all of that that says that
Speaker 3: when a president has made aware that another nation is
Speaker 3: denying humanitarian aid to others, that we must stop supplying them.
Speaker 3: So you can't drop bombs and bread at the same time.
Speaker 3: Those two things don't go together. So char I would
Speaker 3: say to those people, they gotta go vote anyway. Now,
Speaker 3: I ain't gonna tell them how to vote. They got
Speaker 3: to vote their conscience. But they need to go and
Speaker 3: vote because there are other issues that impact their community
Speaker 3: on that ballot other than who's running for president.
Speaker 6: And then just like honestly speaking, Nina, before I got here,
Speaker 6: I wasn't into politics at all, Like it was like
Speaker 6: a lot for me, and I just was like, man,
Speaker 6: I'm just not into that world. I don't even want to,
Speaker 6: you know.
Speaker 4: But I have a son.
Speaker 6: I have an eleven year old and the world today
Speaker 6: this look at the world, just the country, this country today,
Speaker 6: him growing up in it. I don't want him to
Speaker 6: face certain things because it just looks like it's all
Speaker 6: going to shit, you know what I'm saying. So when
Speaker 6: I got here, and the reason let me that track,
Speaker 6: the reason that I wasn't into it because I wasn't
Speaker 6: seeing a lot of us that was appealing enough like
Speaker 6: to make us.
Speaker 4: Get into it.
Speaker 3: What appeals to you? What did you want to hear him?
Speaker 6: You know, I look up to him a lot, you know,
Speaker 6: so and then Tez, you know, and then Killer Mike
Speaker 6: came here, and then now you and then he brings
Speaker 6: he brings a lot of us up here to talk
Speaker 6: about it. And now that my ears are open, I'm
Speaker 6: sitting here, I'm like, Damn, this ain't really that hard.
Speaker 6: It's about and it does require research, it does require
Speaker 6: active listening to because you can listen to something, you
Speaker 6: can hear something, but you're not listening to it and
Speaker 6: you don't want to receive it. But I'm here every
Speaker 6: day now, so it's like I learned a little bit
Speaker 6: about a lot of different stuff every day. And it's like, damn,
Speaker 6: and I struggle with this all the time. How can
Speaker 6: I make Because I know I'm if I was thinking
Speaker 6: like that, I know a lot of other you know,
Speaker 6: others are thinking like that. I'm like, how can I
Speaker 6: appeal to my generation? And I was younger to get
Speaker 6: off the couch, you know, because that's what we say
Speaker 6: is I was one of them, you know, and I
Speaker 6: wasn't ashamed of it. But now it's like, damn, yeah,
Speaker 6: why would I not, you know, especially if I see
Speaker 6: people like you and you know my brother and like,
Speaker 6: it makes me want to, you know, delve into it more.
Speaker 4: But that was my problem, you know what I mean.
Speaker 6: But I just want to know how I can grasp us,
Speaker 6: like more of us, because a.
Speaker 4: Lot of I have a big playform, a lot of
Speaker 4: people listen.
Speaker 2: To me and just just turn thirty two.
Speaker 3: This is my son generation just it's doing what you're
Speaker 3: doing right now. It's what you're saying. I wasn't really
Speaker 3: into this, but I'm into this now. Yeah, continuously telling
Speaker 3: the story. It's your son, it's your daughter that is
Speaker 3: on the way. We do things ultimately for selfish reasons,
Speaker 3: but those selfish reasons could be altruistic. In other words,
Speaker 3: they could be for a higher cause. And so there's
Speaker 3: nothing wrong with saying I want this world to be
Speaker 3: a better place because of mine, and that is one
Speaker 3: of the reasons why I'm out there fighting so hard.
Speaker 3: What happens over there happens over here. So we can't
Speaker 3: have people living in famine. We can't allow nations just
Speaker 3: to rise up and try to eradicate other people, because
Speaker 3: what happens over there happens over here. You know why
Speaker 3: they don't give a damn about what's happening in the
Speaker 3: Gadza because they don't care what's happening in New York City.
Speaker 3: They don't care about the homelessness here.
Speaker 4: Or in Cleveland.
Speaker 3: You know why they don't give a damn about starving
Speaker 3: kids over there in Gadzo or Haiti, or the Congo
Speaker 3: or famine and all of that, because there are people here.
Speaker 3: Homelessness has increased over the last two years. In this country.
Speaker 3: Sixty percent of Americans say they're living paycheck to paycheck.
Speaker 3: What happens over there is a reflection on what happens
Speaker 3: over here. And so we got to say to people
Speaker 3: that we are connected again. If you don't do politics,
Speaker 3: politics gonna do you. And it does matter who is
Speaker 3: in these offices. And we need to hold people accountable.
Speaker 3: We need to make a demand and there needs to
Speaker 3: be a consequence for that demand. I know my mama's house.
Speaker 3: You know my mom is not here anymore. And Charlemagne
Speaker 3: definitely knows this story, and so does Dondelle. She died
Speaker 3: when she was forty two, had a brain an rhythm,
Speaker 3: and that just shook my whole life. I am here
Speaker 3: by the grace of an almighty God. But in my
Speaker 3: mama's house and my dad is still here rocking it,
Speaker 3: playing full court basketball at seventy five. Shout out to you, Daddy.
Speaker 3: This is the thing though, when my mama said do something.
Speaker 3: My mother was a custodial parent. You know, my parents
Speaker 3: were married, but she was a constodia. Hey, you got
Speaker 3: to do what mama say. Yeah, there will be a
Speaker 3: consequence if you don't. You gotta do what Daddy says,
Speaker 3: or there will be a consequence. We as voters, both
Speaker 3: black voters and other voters of consciousness, we need to
Speaker 3: bind together and say you are gonna do for us
Speaker 3: or there will be a consequence to it. Let me
Speaker 3: give you this sample. East Palestine, Ohio, poor whites voted
Speaker 3: over seventy percent for Donald J. Trump. Some people have
Speaker 3: been poisoned by a railroad company. Norfolk Southern train derailed,
Speaker 3: chemicals all up, and they water, they air everything. It
Speaker 3: took Biden a year to show show up. So again,
Speaker 3: what happens over there in East Palestine, happens in Cleveland, Ohio.
Speaker 3: Happens in any of the boroughs here, happens in Chicago.
Speaker 3: So that's why we gotta care. There's a connection, there's
Speaker 3: an intersection, and policy is about power. We gotta follow
Speaker 3: the policy. Show me the policy, and I tell you
Speaker 3: what you care about. Follow the money and I'll show
Speaker 3: you what you care about. If you can constantly increase
Speaker 3: the military budget when they came past an audit, but
Speaker 3: they keep getting more and more money by Democrats and Republicans.
Speaker 3: You mean to tell me, in the hegemonic nation, we
Speaker 3: can't have universal health care so people don't go bankrupts.
Speaker 3: It just makes no sense. So just I say, tell
Speaker 3: your story and then accent that story. Accentuate that story,
Speaker 3: because that's what's gonna move younger people to come out
Speaker 3: the vote.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, they say, people, what are they talking about.
Speaker 3: When you don't allow us to talk.
Speaker 2: I like talking to I like talking to people like Derek.
Speaker 2: I like talking to the bables. What I'm doing morning
Speaker 2: radio because we get to talk to everyday working people.
Speaker 5: All the time, right right, I mean, I get I
Speaker 5: get personal with my clients. So that's another that's another
Speaker 5: reason why some people gravitate towards me, because you know,
Speaker 5: you know, I ask them how they're doing, how your
Speaker 5: family doing, how moms and you know, because it's not
Speaker 5: all about hey, come in here, do this.
Speaker 1: Let me get five sets.
Speaker 7: You know, people sometimes you don't want to hear that.
Speaker 7: You know they want to, you know, boom.
Speaker 1: Talk to you, be direct.
Speaker 7: Talk you don't need it, but you talk too much.
Speaker 1: But shout out to Extreme.
Speaker 5: Compound the gym I'm based out of in Cleveland, Ohio,
Speaker 5: and shout out to my man black owned alkaline water Drip.
Speaker 7: It's that thing called drip drip.
Speaker 1: Okay, sure, sir, drip.
Speaker 6: How often do you take breaks in between working up?
Speaker 6: Like do you usually do this like all day thing?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Well so because they started.
Speaker 6: Kicking your ass right now to keep still right now?
Speaker 7: I know, I know I'm bad with that. So yeah,
Speaker 7: I'm bad.
Speaker 1: But that started four forty five five.
Speaker 7: Am Jesus Okay, and then uh take a break.
Speaker 3: I used to start at four a m.
Speaker 7: Yeah you're used to.
Speaker 5: I used to every time she gets so then I
Speaker 5: take a break like two o'clock, come back.
Speaker 7: At four like seven seven.
Speaker 4: Damn you got.
Speaker 7: Wow, I know.
Speaker 3: And that's the misses right here, while he shouting out folks, oh.
Speaker 5: Yeah, don't do my wife.
Speaker 3: I love her. Nurse your nerves. She's doing the traveling nurses.
Speaker 2: Wow, can we talk about why being in TikTok is
Speaker 2: such a priority to the government.
Speaker 3: Don't even get me started playing games. Don't play in
Speaker 3: our face. If it truly is about protecting our data
Speaker 3: and our privacy, which is important, you can do that comprehensively.
Speaker 3: I don't want TikTok to have my data just as
Speaker 3: well as I don't want Twitter or Instagram any of them.
Speaker 3: So do it in a comprehensive way. But don't play
Speaker 3: games with China like this. Don't do it so they
Speaker 3: it's it's just a ruse. They just playing with TikTok
Speaker 3: and do it all for all of them, That's what
Speaker 3: I'm saying. And so it's just much to do about
Speaker 3: nothing if they're not gonna do it the right way.
Speaker 3: And I want people to get food by the banana
Speaker 3: and the tailpipe. This is banana and the tailpipe. Protect
Speaker 3: our data, regulate social media companies, break some of them up.
Speaker 3: So if you're gonna protect us, protect us, but don't
Speaker 3: use They're just using TikTok as a ruse, and it's
Speaker 3: wrong and we should care about because data is like
Speaker 3: the new platinum. Data is the new goal. I think
Speaker 3: it was Andrew Yang who mentioned that some of these
Speaker 3: companies need to give us checks because they're getting our data.
Speaker 3: Once you have data, baby, that's power. So the federal
Speaker 3: government is obligated to protect us in that way, but
Speaker 3: do it in a comp We need a comprehensive UH
Speaker 3: Data Protection Bill that actually passes the Congress, signed by
Speaker 3: the President, that regulates all data companies what they can
Speaker 3: do and what they cannot do, and it protects our
Speaker 3: privacy because cyber warfare is real. So I'm not saying
Speaker 3: it's not real, but the way that they're doing and
Speaker 3: just singling out TikTok and quite frankly, we know that
Speaker 3: TikTok is where most younger people get their information. That's
Speaker 3: the spot.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I's got a couple of questions. I know they're
Speaker 2: going to go do some pull ups. Yes, but you
Speaker 2: said President Biden needs to pivot.
Speaker 4: Is it too late for the vice president.
Speaker 3: Pivot walking me into this track? No, I won't say
Speaker 3: it's too late. I really do believe hope springs are cornal,
Speaker 3: but it has to be more than rhetoric. People are
Speaker 3: hipped to it, and they tired, and they suffering too
Speaker 3: much to just listen to people whisper sweet nothings, black faces,
Speaker 3: and how places does nothing for my people children in
Speaker 3: my city. You know, Cleveland's one of the poorest cities
Speaker 3: in the nation. I'm just using Cleveland as an example.
Speaker 3: That on you sitting up there on the Edmond Petties
Speaker 3: Bridge talking that Lord, let me back up. It's important
Speaker 3: to be don't get me wrong. Symbols matter, substance matters
Speaker 3: more so. S No, it's never too late, but come on,
Speaker 3: you use the power. One of the things the Republicans
Speaker 3: are bold. Now I don't agree with most of the
Speaker 3: things they do, but they bowed as a mofa. When
Speaker 3: they get the power, they do it. They don't want
Speaker 3: to hear none of these No, we're doing it. And
Speaker 3: then I double dog gave you to stop us through
Speaker 3: the courts or whatever. But we're gonna do it. We
Speaker 3: need the Democratic Party that enjoys almost one hundred percent
Speaker 3: of the black vote to get to doing the thing
Speaker 3: for black people and stop all that symbolic stuff. Instead
Speaker 3: of walking up, I mean walking to admit predace. So
Speaker 3: I'm a historic, beautiful thing. But instead of walking that bridge,
Speaker 3: I would want you to try to close the racial
Speaker 3: wealth gap in this country. Instead of doing that, why
Speaker 3: don't you pass baby bonds into Congress so that every
Speaker 3: baby is giving a certain amount of money from birth,
Speaker 3: so that by the time they grow up they got
Speaker 3: a foundation. And doctor Derek Hamilton of the New School,
Speaker 3: the Institute on Race, Power and Political Economy, that was
Speaker 3: his idea. And you both may remember when Congress, when
Speaker 3: Senator Corey Booker was pushing that into Congress. That's from
Speaker 3: doctor Derek Hamilton. He's a stratification economist. One of the
Speaker 3: reasons why I'm here is because I'm a senior fellow
Speaker 3: at the New School. But those are the kinds of
Speaker 3: substantive things that people like Vice President Harris, people like
Speaker 3: President Biden and others should be doing. Now. The Vice
Speaker 3: President serves at the pleasure of the presidents. I want
Speaker 3: to put that out there for our listeners. I get it.
Speaker 3: In some cases she has to do his will. I
Speaker 3: got that. But baby, you can slide up, you can
Speaker 3: roll up sometimes in other ways and do some things
Speaker 3: and say some things to make people take notice. So no,
Speaker 3: it's not too late, Sharper damn. And it's getting there. The
Speaker 3: oxygen is running out, man, I feel like that.
Speaker 2: It feels like man, and you say she can do
Speaker 2: his will, but man, I just feel like there's certain
Speaker 2: things that she could do that she could do that
Speaker 2: he can't do, certain things that she can speak people,
Speaker 2: she can speak to.
Speaker 3: That and just say I apologize instead of asking for permission.
Speaker 3: And the reason why I wanted to make because a
Speaker 3: vice president is selected by the person at the top
Speaker 3: of the ticket and you have to do their bidding
Speaker 3: for the most part. But there are ways to get
Speaker 3: around that. And just hell, I just asked for forgiveness. Hey,
Speaker 3: I'm sorry I had to say this. What are you
Speaker 3: gonna do? Kick y'all? No, you donna kick y'all. Just
Speaker 3: say I'm sorry, I.
Speaker 4: Had to do this. That's right, Nina.
Speaker 2: I'm sure that you'll be up here quite a few
Speaker 2: more times before.
Speaker 7: Oh.
Speaker 3: I love you so much, it's so good to be here.
Speaker 3: Can I shout out a book I'm It's called Wake
Speaker 3: Up America Black Women on the Future of Democracy. Doctor
Speaker 3: Keisha Baines edited that book in twenty two. Spectacular black
Speaker 3: women have written essays in that book. I am one
Speaker 3: of those spectacular black women, and so I want people
Speaker 3: to get that book. Wake Up it is a blue
Speaker 3: prince for action. Wake up America, black women on the
Speaker 3: future of democracy, because you know, we feel the pain
Speaker 3: first and deepest because we cross all kinds of intersections.
Speaker 3: And baby, when black women tell you it's wrong, it
Speaker 3: is wrong for the most part. But I love my
Speaker 3: black men, though we ain't gonna play them games. I
Speaker 3: hate when the Democratic Party try to separate black women
Speaker 3: from black men.
Speaker 2: Trying to set it up to where if Trump wins,
Speaker 2: is black men fault.
Speaker 3: Oh hell no, let me give you. I'm glad one
Speaker 3: more thing. Doctor Derek Hamlin were talking about this, and
Speaker 3: people need to look this up. In the race between
Speaker 3: Andrew Gillam and DeSantis, black women slipped eighteen percent of
Speaker 3: the voting in that race. The man lost by less
Speaker 3: than a percentage. And when you look at the black turnout,
Speaker 3: black men rocked for Andrew Gillam in Florida, and black
Speaker 3: women who's slipping? So okay, we don't get it right
Speaker 3: all the time. Andrew Gillum could have been the governor
Speaker 3: of Florida and black women slipped up on them. So no,
Speaker 3: but seriously, don't blame black people for this. Why we
Speaker 3: gotta keep saving folks and black men have been emasculated
Speaker 3: in the Democratic Party. That's real. They don't see themselves.
Speaker 3: Because to lift up black women is beautiful. We should,
Speaker 3: but not at the expense of black men. We have achieved,
Speaker 3: or we achieved so far in this country because we
Speaker 3: are together and we can't pick up other people's bad habits. Now,
Speaker 3: white women may be able to lead a white man
Speaker 3: by the side of the room, sisters can't do that.
Speaker 3: And the way that in this politics, the way the
Speaker 3: Democratic Party, the mothers of the movement and black women
Speaker 3: delivered and black women saved. Black men do not vote
Speaker 3: much differently than black women, So don't do that. If
Speaker 3: Trump wins, God forbid, it is going to be because
Speaker 3: this president and the Democratic Party did not deliver material
Speaker 3: changes for the people of this nation. It is going
Speaker 3: to be because this president and the Democratic Party led
Speaker 3: over genocide, are complicit in genocide in Gaza. That is
Speaker 3: going to be the reason why this man loses. So
Speaker 3: he needs to choose. Is he gonna choose his coalition
Speaker 3: or is he gonna choose to allow the person who
Speaker 3: is clearly a neo fascist to win. It will be
Speaker 3: his fault. We ain't blaming no voters, and black people
Speaker 3: definitely ain't taken the blame. They don't call out white women. Hell,
Speaker 3: white women vote for Trump in very high margins. And
Speaker 3: don't forget when when Obama, when President Obama was running,
Speaker 3: they were so mad that President Obama won the prime
Speaker 3: I'm just speaking truth. So just say a man and
Speaker 3: say ouch. When President Obama be then Senator Clinton, some
Speaker 3: of them white women were so mad they voted for McCaine.
Speaker 3: So don't don't come, don't bring it here, don't bring
Speaker 3: it to the feet of black people. We always saving
Speaker 3: this country. Now it's time for this country to join
Speaker 3: us and save itself. Amen and amen, let your say amen.
Speaker 2: Amen out they Needa Turner, her training, Derek. If you
Speaker 2: if you see a little bit more fire and need
Speaker 2: it because of Derek, and they're not like that fire
Speaker 2: needed any more flame to it. But thank you all
Speaker 2: for coming, Thanks.
Speaker 5: For having me gym again there extreme compound, Okay, black
Speaker 5: own absolutely.
Speaker 7: Extreme compounds.
Speaker 3: You just y'all got to come through OHIOO only workouts
Speaker 3: to TV. I be there right right yeah.
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