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Speaker 1: Hello, everyone, welcome to a bonus episode of.

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Speaker 2: I Saw What You Did. My name is Millie to Jericho.

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Speaker 3: I'm Daniel Henderson, and uh yeah.

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Speaker 1: We're doing another bonus for you. Thanks to all of

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Speaker 1: you stitch your premium subscribers. We really appreciate you subscribing

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Speaker 1: to the bonus. We have a lot of fun during them, yeah,

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Speaker 1: because we don't have to plan anything.

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Speaker 2: We could, but we don't. We don't.

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Speaker 1: We're too much like type A personalities, like ninety nine

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Speaker 1: point nine percent of the time that when we have

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Speaker 1: a bonus we're like, yeah, let's just take our bras off.

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Speaker 1: Let's fucking get loose.

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Speaker 2: No research, baby, the wheels are off.

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Speaker 3: Well, maybe what if we don't even talk about movies?

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Speaker 1: We could just go we could just grow, which I'm

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Speaker 1: not a posed to, but I will say this, we

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Speaker 1: do have a little bit of a plan. So okay,

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Speaker 1: to recap the past bonus episode. So far, the past

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Speaker 1: I don't know three or four that we've done have

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Speaker 1: been about like one of us talking about a single movie, right,

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Speaker 1: which is fun.

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Speaker 2: It's like a fun task.

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Speaker 1: To like go super hard on one film. But we

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Speaker 1: decided this episode we wanted to talk about movies that

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Speaker 1: we've watched over and over again, so kind of like

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Speaker 1: comfort films, right, Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I think that that fits.

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Speaker 3: And I'm going to kind of that list is so

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Speaker 3: long for me, and so I'm kind of I'm going

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Speaker 3: to narrow it down to movies I've watched over and

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Speaker 3: over again in quarantine, Oh perfect, and during the pandemic, yeah,

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Speaker 3: because during the pandemic, I definitely wanted some comfort movies

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Speaker 3: during lockdowns.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and you.

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Speaker 3: Know, the pandemic is still out there, still happened in folks,

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Speaker 3: but some.

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Speaker 1: Say it's getting worse in a different way exactly.

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Speaker 2: Pandemic two Electric Boogaloo is awful.

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Speaker 1: So we get some of the original stars coming back

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Speaker 1: for the sequel.

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Speaker 2: But oh good, Yeah, I totally understand. I think that's

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Speaker 2: a good angle to take.

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Speaker 1: I think when I came to the table with this,

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Speaker 1: I was like, Okay, one of them is definitely something

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Speaker 1: that I watch in a specific place. Oh, and then

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Speaker 1: the other two are literally just And I also want

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Speaker 1: to say too that, like I'm the type of person

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Speaker 1: that watches movies over and over again generally, like I

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Speaker 1: watch movies more than once, but these are movies I

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Speaker 1: think at least for me, I don't want to speak

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Speaker 1: for you entirely. That are movies that anytime they're on

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Speaker 1: the furniture store or whatever. If it's on a television somewhere,

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Speaker 1: And I won't say it's necessarily because I'm obsessed with

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Speaker 1: it and love it.

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Speaker 2: And sometimes it's not that.

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Speaker 1: Sometimes it's literally just like oh, I'm just watching a

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Speaker 2: Do it, you know what I mean?

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Speaker 3: Right, No, I think that fits with me too, Like

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Speaker 3: I think there's it's not always like like oh I

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Speaker 3: I want to watch it right now. Sometimes it's just

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Speaker 3: like you said, it's less about what I'm infusing into

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Speaker 2: Giving me in that moment.

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Speaker 3: So, like you said, if it's on TV, or if

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Speaker 1: Yeah, like a lot of it for me too, is

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Speaker 1: Sometimes it is, but a lot of times it's just

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Speaker 2: I know, do you want do you want to kick

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Speaker 1: So we're gonna pick three apiece. We're just gonna I mean,

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Speaker 1: But so my first one is gonna be a fucking shocker.

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Speaker 1: Maybe I don't know mcgro print the time, Well, no,

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Speaker 1: a movie that I watch over.

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Speaker 2: And over again is Forrest Gump.

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Speaker 1: You wouldn't believe it if I told you, but I

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Speaker 3: Who in the hill? Is it? Is?

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Speaker 2: Faul's Gump coach?

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Speaker 3: Oh, you definitely have to talk about why.

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Speaker 1: Now, I can't tell you how many times I've seen

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Speaker 1: Forrest Gump, like I really fucking can't, And I honestly

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Speaker 1: have not wanted to watch Forest Gump because it was

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Speaker 1: basically like going to watch like a popular fucking Tom

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Speaker 1: I and I we talked a lot about Tom Hanks

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Speaker 2: So it's like, you know, we've and we've talked.

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Speaker 2: Nobody understands that, but me.

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Speaker 3: I love that you're watching a fucked up movie over

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Speaker 3: You're like, one of these times, I'm gonna watch it

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Speaker 3: and I'm gonna pinpoint exactly why this movie is a trainer.

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Speaker 2: It's like a boomer movie.

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Speaker 1: Basically, It's like, oh, check out like all the greatest

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Speaker 2: And that's what makes him fucking epic is that he's

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Speaker 3: I think that's what gets me about that movie though, too,

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Speaker 3: Like that's why I don't watch it over and over again,

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Speaker 3: because I'm like the hubris of white men. You could

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Speaker 3: I'm too racially charged when I watch that movie.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he fumbles and bumbles himself into a black Panther

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Speaker 2: I'm like, this is fucking bullshit.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, put a fucking stupid joke in this scene.

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Speaker 2: Where I just was like, why is this happening? Why

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Speaker 3: It's also like this, this is what I mean, like

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Speaker 2: It's racially charged.

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Speaker 1: Why is everybody acting as if this movie is like

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Speaker 2: It's like not, it's like actually really fucked up.

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Speaker 1: So I think that, based on that point alone, is

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Speaker 1: I'm like, why are we watching this fucked up movie?

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Speaker 1: But anyway, so that's that's why I can't stop watching it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that makes sense to me.

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Speaker 3: That completely tracks for me, because I think, for some reason,

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Speaker 3: And if we don't get this One Woman Show off

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Speaker 3: feel I feel like I'm not looking.

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00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:42,760
Speaker 2: At Tom Cruise.

442
00:21:42,880 --> 00:21:45,320
Speaker 3: Yes, every Tom Cruise movie, I'm like, that's Tom Cruise,

443
00:21:45,359 --> 00:21:49,240
Speaker 3: that's Tom Cruise. I can't suspend reality enough to believe

444
00:21:49,240 --> 00:21:51,879
Speaker 3: what he's doing as anything other than that's who he

445
00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:54,199
Speaker 3: is as a person, and this is a role that

446
00:21:54,240 --> 00:21:57,800
Speaker 3: I think really stretched him. Especially my God, I also

447
00:21:57,840 --> 00:22:00,600
Speaker 3: cried my eyes out watching this movie that scene with

448
00:22:00,680 --> 00:22:03,520
Speaker 3: him and Jason Robard's where he is just at the

449
00:22:03,560 --> 00:22:05,439
Speaker 3: side of the bed and he's kind of like holding

450
00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:07,840
Speaker 3: his hands together and trying to hold back tears but

451
00:22:07,920 --> 00:22:11,120
Speaker 3: he can't. I just feel like that is epically good

452
00:22:11,160 --> 00:22:15,080
Speaker 3: acting from him, And that scene is so evocative to me,

453
00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:17,760
Speaker 3: you know, this dying man on his you know, on

454
00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:20,840
Speaker 3: this guy on his deathbed and his estrange son. It

455
00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:23,439
Speaker 3: just hit me for some reason during the pandemic and

456
00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:25,239
Speaker 3: I'm like, yep, let's get into this. I don't want

457
00:22:25,240 --> 00:22:27,000
Speaker 3: to focus on the fact that I can't go outside.

458
00:22:27,400 --> 00:22:30,080
Speaker 3: Let me focus on this fucked up family. And Julian

459
00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:32,960
Speaker 3: Moore is incredible in that movie, like incredible in that movie.

460
00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:35,080
Speaker 3: So yeah, just a lot, a lot of meaty stuff

461
00:22:35,119 --> 00:22:37,320
Speaker 3: to dig into. If you just want to spend a

462
00:22:37,400 --> 00:22:42,439
Speaker 3: day thinking about something other than your own misery and loneliness, well.

463
00:22:42,359 --> 00:22:44,919
Speaker 2: Lord knows that parents stuff is.

464
00:22:45,160 --> 00:22:50,000
Speaker 1: Really I've gotten way more emotional about parents stuff and

465
00:22:50,040 --> 00:22:52,840
Speaker 1: movies now that I'm older. When I was in my

466
00:22:52,880 --> 00:22:54,800
Speaker 1: twenty is I could care less about that kind of

467
00:22:54,800 --> 00:22:56,359
Speaker 1: shitou how boring?

468
00:22:56,880 --> 00:22:59,960
Speaker 2: But now it's like die, I don't know. Life is hard.

469
00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:04,160
Speaker 1: It's we're all getting older, you know, So I suspect

470
00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:05,800
Speaker 1: it's gonna hit me way differently.

471
00:23:06,560 --> 00:23:08,800
Speaker 3: Oh, I cannot wait to build a show around that movie,

472
00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:09,639
Speaker 3: just to hear what you think.

473
00:23:09,720 --> 00:23:12,800
Speaker 1: So that's a good excuse. I definitely, yeah, we should

474
00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:13,919
Speaker 1: definitely do that idea.

475
00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:17,280
Speaker 3: Well, what's your next movie that you could watch again

476
00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:18,359
Speaker 3: and again and again?

477
00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:21,760
Speaker 1: Okay, Well, I will say this, I think we might

478
00:23:21,800 --> 00:23:22,600
Speaker 1: have the same movie.

479
00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:25,520
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna say. I'm not going to say it definitively.

480
00:23:25,640 --> 00:23:26,040
Speaker 2: We might.

481
00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:28,399
Speaker 1: It's by the same director as the movie he just

482
00:23:28,440 --> 00:23:33,399
Speaker 1: talks about, and it's a movie that I watch in

483
00:23:33,440 --> 00:23:39,000
Speaker 1: a very specific circumstance, which is Phantom Thread.

484
00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:43,520
Speaker 2: Yes, that's my second movie. Okay, also by Paul Thomas Anderson.

485
00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:49,560
Speaker 2: My brother can feel cursed that love is doomed for him.

486
00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:51,040
Speaker 2: I don't like the fabric.

487
00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:53,000
Speaker 1: Maybe one that you would change your taste.

488
00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:54,200
Speaker 3: Maybe I like my own.

489
00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:57,760
Speaker 1: I think, yes, we must want to like live in

490
00:23:57,800 --> 00:24:01,800
Speaker 1: the Paul Thomas Anderson universe, because you know this is

491
00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:04,160
Speaker 1: the we've just talked about his movie and now we're

492
00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:05,959
Speaker 1: talking about another one of his movies.

493
00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:08,560
Speaker 2: But here's the thing about Phantom Threads.

494
00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:12,720
Speaker 1: So when it came out, I was there fucking opening night,

495
00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:16,680
Speaker 1: Like I think I saw it at the Vista. Maybe

496
00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:19,439
Speaker 1: I saw it somewhere in LA and me and my

497
00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:23,680
Speaker 1: friend David, we basically were like, we gotta buy tickets,

498
00:24:23,720 --> 00:24:26,280
Speaker 1: like fucking two months in advance and just go see

499
00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:27,920
Speaker 1: the shit, even though I don't think you can buy

500
00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:30,119
Speaker 1: advanced tickets at the Vista. But anyway, it was like

501
00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:34,000
Speaker 1: thing where we were like planning on it forever. So

502
00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:36,800
Speaker 1: we saw it, and then I saw it like three

503
00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:39,520
Speaker 1: more times in the next week, Like I saw it

504
00:24:39,640 --> 00:24:44,280
Speaker 1: at the arc Light twice. Yea, so the Vista, two

505
00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:45,960
Speaker 1: times at the arc Light, and I want to say

506
00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:46,720
Speaker 1: I saw it again.

507
00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:49,080
Speaker 2: I saw twice at the arc Light when it came out. Yeah,

508
00:24:49,119 --> 00:24:50,679
Speaker 2: I was so excited by it.

509
00:24:51,080 --> 00:24:54,960
Speaker 1: I mean, again, another movie where the world that it's

510
00:24:54,960 --> 00:24:59,800
Speaker 1: in is so attractive, like and it's also a time.

511
00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:03,080
Speaker 1: It's kind of like when when Dalton Abbey came out,

512
00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:07,560
Speaker 1: you know, initially and it became a sensation. It's because

513
00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:11,080
Speaker 1: they were it's like a time period of daln Abbey

514
00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:11,680
Speaker 1: that they.

515
00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:12,800
Speaker 2: Didn't really like.

516
00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:17,040
Speaker 1: Do you haven't really seen that era much in popular

517
00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:19,720
Speaker 1: television and movies, right, And I say the same thing

518
00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:23,720
Speaker 1: about Phantom Thread. Like a lot of movies and TV

519
00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:27,919
Speaker 1: sort of focus on like late fifties and especially the

520
00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:31,000
Speaker 1: sixties that sort of like mad Men, like late fifties.

521
00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:31,600
Speaker 2: Early sixties era.

522
00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:34,680
Speaker 1: I feel like Phantom Thread takes place in the early fifties,

523
00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:37,399
Speaker 1: which is sort of like a totally different time and

524
00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:39,040
Speaker 1: place than the late fifties.

525
00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:39,199
Speaker 3: Right.

526
00:25:39,280 --> 00:25:42,000
Speaker 1: It's kind of like, you know, the beginning of the

527
00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:44,920
Speaker 1: decade feels like the decade before, and then the end

528
00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:47,680
Speaker 1: of the decade feels like something different, maybe the next one.

529
00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:51,200
Speaker 1: So there was that, and then just this idea of

530
00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:56,840
Speaker 1: living amongst these like fashion designers in England, and it

531
00:25:56,920 --> 00:26:04,360
Speaker 1: was like cozy and proper and glamorous and I just

532
00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:07,600
Speaker 1: love that. I love like sitting in that world with

533
00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:11,159
Speaker 1: like the house and the clothes and the tea and

534
00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:12,520
Speaker 1: the shit everything. Right.

535
00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:15,879
Speaker 3: I think that is why I also gravitated towards it

536
00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:18,680
Speaker 3: a lot this year, is that it is a movie

537
00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:22,080
Speaker 3: that instantly transports me to another place. Yes, Like I

538
00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:25,840
Speaker 3: just I just wanted to dissociate this year. Basically, yeah, exactly.

539
00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:29,480
Speaker 3: It instantly transports you to another place, and there's something

540
00:26:30,119 --> 00:26:33,679
Speaker 3: so beautiful about that time, like you said, where they

541
00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:36,040
Speaker 3: would do the fashion show in the house, and like

542
00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:39,480
Speaker 3: watching women walk through these rooms and these gorgeous dresses.

543
00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:42,600
Speaker 3: And as someone who used to I wanted to study

544
00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:44,760
Speaker 3: fashion design. I did study fashion design for a year,

545
00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:47,840
Speaker 3: and you know, make my own clothes, and I'm just

546
00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:51,679
Speaker 3: interested in that craft. It was really cool to see

547
00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:54,119
Speaker 3: all the moments of like picking out fabric and making

548
00:26:54,119 --> 00:26:56,960
Speaker 3: the patterns and trying on the dresses and doing all

549
00:26:57,000 --> 00:26:58,360
Speaker 3: the fittings, like it was such a.

550
00:26:58,280 --> 00:27:02,280
Speaker 2: Particular world old and I loved it.

551
00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:05,800
Speaker 3: And I also think that I love I loved watching

552
00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:09,240
Speaker 3: this movie again and again and again because Daniel day

553
00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:10,720
Speaker 3: Lewis is such a.

554
00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:11,800
Speaker 2: Bitch in this movie.

555
00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:16,160
Speaker 3: Oh my god, he is such a fucking like singular

556
00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:18,679
Speaker 3: character in this movie. I've never seen a man be

557
00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:21,480
Speaker 3: such a bitch in a movie before, and I fucking

558
00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:22,520
Speaker 3: love it well.

559
00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:25,840
Speaker 1: And this is again like the So there's so many

560
00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:29,680
Speaker 1: different reasons why I like Imprinted on this film. Besides

561
00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:31,720
Speaker 1: the fact that it's the time and place this is

562
00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:33,960
Speaker 1: a movie that I saw I would always watch.

563
00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:34,440
Speaker 2: On a plane.

564
00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:36,840
Speaker 1: So that was kind of like at the beginning of

565
00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:38,680
Speaker 1: this episode when I talked about seeing a movie in

566
00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:41,919
Speaker 1: a specific place, I've seen this on a plane like

567
00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:43,000
Speaker 1: three or four times.

568
00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:45,800
Speaker 2: Nice, So I've seen it like three.

569
00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:49,760
Speaker 1: Or four times in the public sphere, in the in

570
00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:52,240
Speaker 1: the theater, but then I've seen it on a plane,

571
00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:55,480
Speaker 1: and every time I see it, like in the lineup

572
00:27:56,359 --> 00:27:58,399
Speaker 1: for something, you know, like if you're on Delta or whatever,

573
00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:01,560
Speaker 1: I'm like, fuck, yeah, this is my thing on a plane,

574
00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:06,359
Speaker 1: I'm watching Phantom Thread. But the whole idea of what

575
00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:09,560
Speaker 1: the story's about, and I know certain people have different

576
00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:13,600
Speaker 1: takes on it or whatever. My thing about what's going

577
00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:15,480
Speaker 1: on in this story and this is just sort of

578
00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:22,840
Speaker 1: maybe informed by my own experiences with guys like fucking Woodcock. Okay,

579
00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:27,800
Speaker 1: I will say that maybe I have been romantically involved

580
00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:31,000
Speaker 1: with people that seem very much like him, but I

581
00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:36,439
Speaker 1: also think it's a type of person that needed to

582
00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:43,200
Speaker 1: be examined, which is this like, yeah, fussy, bitchy, artsy.

583
00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:47,720
Speaker 2: Guy right, the bitchy side of passion. Oh yeah, and.

584
00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:51,280
Speaker 1: That he is allowed to have all of his little

585
00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:55,000
Speaker 1: ticks and all of his little quirks, and he's allowed

586
00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:59,480
Speaker 1: to be anti social and fucking demanding and fucking precise

587
00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:01,720
Speaker 1: and do all this stuff because he's this kind of

588
00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:05,479
Speaker 1: creative genius, right, and don't disturb the genius, right, we

589
00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:07,440
Speaker 1: have to. We can't put him in a bad mood

590
00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:09,880
Speaker 1: because if he's if he doesn't have his breakfast right,

591
00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:12,040
Speaker 1: then he can't fucking design shit for the rest of

592
00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:15,280
Speaker 1: the day or whatever, and the whole day is fucked right,

593
00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:19,320
Speaker 1: and you're just sort of like, in what world are

594
00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:24,360
Speaker 1: we allowing a motherfucker to act like this? And he starts,

595
00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:28,760
Speaker 1: you know, becoming romantically involved with this woman, right, whom

596
00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:31,880
Speaker 1: all of the women that have come before her have

597
00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:35,720
Speaker 1: capitulated to his bullshit, right, so they're all like, oh

598
00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:38,320
Speaker 1: my god, Like I just can't. I just have to

599
00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:41,960
Speaker 1: let him be and I'm just wallpaper until he gets

600
00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:45,320
Speaker 1: rid of me. And then there's no reason why he

601
00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:45,960
Speaker 1: gets rid of me.

602
00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:48,240
Speaker 2: He'm just so lucky to be in his life.

603
00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:51,240
Speaker 1: Yes, and I must have done something wrong like buttered

604
00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:53,360
Speaker 1: my toast too loud or some shit, and that's why

605
00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:54,040
Speaker 1: he doesn't.

606
00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:57,160
Speaker 2: Love me anymore. But then this woman comes along.

607
00:29:56,960 --> 00:29:59,760
Speaker 1: Who is calling him out on all of his fucking bullshit,

608
00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:03,960
Speaker 1: and it is wonderful to see, Like, I'm just like,

609
00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:10,360
Speaker 1: I love anytime she is basically like, you're fucking ridiculous.

610
00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:13,680
Speaker 3: Absolutely because she's his muse too, So I love that.

611
00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:17,520
Speaker 3: I love that that she takes what is previously presented

612
00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:20,840
Speaker 3: as a very precious place to be in his life

613
00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:23,600
Speaker 3: and in this world as his muse. She should be

614
00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:27,240
Speaker 3: like so grateful and so quiet and just again appreciate

615
00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:29,120
Speaker 3: the fact that he's paying any attention to her.

616
00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:30,640
Speaker 2: And she's like, I'm.

617
00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:34,320
Speaker 3: Sorry, I have a whole ass life and I don't

618
00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:37,360
Speaker 3: play like this. So she's like, I'm happy to be

619
00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:40,840
Speaker 3: your muse, but I'm also a goddamn human being. And

620
00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:44,160
Speaker 3: I love that she takes the focus away from him

621
00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:47,280
Speaker 3: having to be so precious about his art in order

622
00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:49,440
Speaker 3: to like she kind of brings him over into her

623
00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:51,520
Speaker 3: into real life in a way, like she takes him

624
00:30:51,560 --> 00:30:53,880
Speaker 3: out of his reverie and brings him into real life

625
00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:58,320
Speaker 3: just by being herself and being very stoic about what

626
00:30:58,360 --> 00:30:59,120
Speaker 3: she'll put up with.

627
00:30:59,320 --> 00:31:07,400
Speaker 1: Right, And it's it's because she's empowered that creates the whole.

628
00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:10,760
Speaker 1: It's kind of like they're in a cold war, right, yeah,

629
00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:16,440
Speaker 1: Like they're the only people that like understand each other specifically,

630
00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:21,040
Speaker 1: and more so that she is like, oh, I'm not

631
00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:23,880
Speaker 1: just gonna sit here and let I'm not just gonna

632
00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:27,240
Speaker 1: be your muse until you want to get rid of me. Right,

633
00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:31,120
Speaker 1: I have power over you, which is that I can

634
00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:35,920
Speaker 1: poison your fucking ass anytime I want. I know mushrooms, bitch,

635
00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:38,800
Speaker 1: I know how to make a fucking omelet, and.

636
00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:41,520
Speaker 3: Just know that I know how to use the woods

637
00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:42,080
Speaker 3: against you.

638
00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:47,680
Speaker 1: I am fucking foraging poisonous, fucking mushrooms for your stupid ass.

639
00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:48,880
Speaker 2: So act right.

640
00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:57,760
Speaker 1: But that he is like enjoying the idea that she

641
00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:01,640
Speaker 1: can have power over him, Like he sort of like

642
00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:07,760
Speaker 1: is enthralled by stepping out of his own bullshit to

643
00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:09,560
Speaker 1: be like, well, I am a little bitch and I

644
00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:11,840
Speaker 1: want to get treated like shit sometimes, and you know what,

645
00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:14,520
Speaker 1: Like I'm gonna let her because it.

646
00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:17,680
Speaker 2: Feels it, And I'm like, that is fucking crazy. Like

647
00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:20,400
Speaker 2: she cracked the fucking code.

648
00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:25,000
Speaker 3: It's great. It's a dynamic relationship. I love watching those

649
00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:29,040
Speaker 3: two on screen together. It is like it's something that

650
00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:32,320
Speaker 3: is so beautiful and can transport you to a different time.

651
00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:33,160
Speaker 2: But then the story.

652
00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:35,120
Speaker 3: It's like the visual of it is part of the

653
00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:36,840
Speaker 3: reason I think I watch it over and over again,

654
00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:41,560
Speaker 3: but also the story. It just never gets old watching

655
00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:45,640
Speaker 3: someone take a shift in their life that is dangerous

656
00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:46,520
Speaker 3: but necessary.

657
00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:54,520
Speaker 1: Yes, it's probably the most interesting movie about a romantic

658
00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:56,480
Speaker 1: relationship that I've ever seen in my life.

659
00:32:56,880 --> 00:32:58,640
Speaker 2: I honestly think that, Like, there's.

660
00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:01,000
Speaker 1: A lot of movies where, you know, you really get

661
00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:04,200
Speaker 1: into the weeds with like a certain relationship or you

662
00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:08,120
Speaker 1: know whatever, but this one really is like next level shit,

663
00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:12,400
Speaker 1: And I love it for that so much, because it

664
00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:15,480
Speaker 1: feels like so fresh. It feels like I've never seen

665
00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:19,200
Speaker 1: anything like this before. Yes, And you know, it's like

666
00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:21,480
Speaker 1: you come for the fashion, and you come for the

667
00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:23,360
Speaker 1: time period, and you come for the acting.

668
00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:24,800
Speaker 2: I mean, like, let's get serious.

669
00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:29,160
Speaker 1: Daniel day Lewis's method acting bullshit is so great.

670
00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:31,000
Speaker 2: I'm just like, it's so awesome.

671
00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:33,280
Speaker 1: Most of the time I think that stupid shit is

672
00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:38,720
Speaker 1: indulgent and ridiculous, But like I love DDL acting like

673
00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:41,400
Speaker 1: a fucking weirdo on set, Like I'm just sort of like,

674
00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:44,360
Speaker 1: good he had to look he learned how to sew

675
00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:45,360
Speaker 1: for this movie.

676
00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:49,800
Speaker 3: Yes, he fucking like apprentice with the Metropolitan Opera for

677
00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:52,840
Speaker 3: this movie, and I'm like, he's the only one who.

678
00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:53,600
Speaker 2: Can get away with it.

679
00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:56,760
Speaker 3: He is the only actor who, in my mind, can

680
00:33:56,800 --> 00:33:58,640
Speaker 3: get away with that where he's like, I'm gonna be

681
00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:00,120
Speaker 3: a haberdasher so I can learn how to make a

682
00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:03,160
Speaker 3: fucking hat And the movie might shoot in two months,

683
00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:05,040
Speaker 3: but I'm gonna spend three years of my life learning

684
00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:06,120
Speaker 3: how to make a hat.

685
00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:10,719
Speaker 1: I'm a person that like would would love that indulgence

686
00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:12,000
Speaker 1: of my own and be like, you know what, I

687
00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:14,640
Speaker 1: just want to learn a trade, and it's like I

688
00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:17,120
Speaker 1: want to do this simply so I can just be

689
00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:19,319
Speaker 1: this character in this movie that I'm gonna be in

690
00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:20,280
Speaker 1: like three months.

691
00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:22,319
Speaker 2: I would love to do something like that.

692
00:34:22,680 --> 00:34:25,960
Speaker 3: Oh completely, there's all like that, that fucking hilarious picture

693
00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:29,160
Speaker 3: of him dressed like Lincoln but eating it like a

694
00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:32,959
Speaker 3: modern restaurant, Like the fucking.

695
00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:33,960
Speaker 2: Balls of this dude.

696
00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:36,719
Speaker 3: I love it, Like Lincoln's gonna go to Sonic and

697
00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:39,399
Speaker 3: be like, treat me like Abe Lincoln, like it's it's

698
00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:40,319
Speaker 3: hilarious to me.

699
00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:41,560
Speaker 2: Oh my god.

700
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Speaker 1: I you know who else is almost as good, if

701
00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:49,640
Speaker 1: not better sometimes than him? In this movie is Leslie

702
00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:55,200
Speaker 1: Manville like, oh, completely again, another woman in his orbit

703
00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:59,480
Speaker 1: that fucking shuts his shit down when it's necessary. I mean,

704
00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:03,360
Speaker 1: That's what I love about this film is that it's like,

705
00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:04,960
Speaker 1: I mean a lot of people see it as sort

706
00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:08,760
Speaker 1: of a like, you know, a kind of horror film

707
00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:11,399
Speaker 1: almost where it's like, oh, you know, people like as

708
00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:13,600
Speaker 1: a woman poisoning a man, and I'm like, no, no, no,

709
00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:17,640
Speaker 1: this is like women who are putting this shit in check.

710
00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:20,960
Speaker 1: And it's it's the kind of thing where like his

711
00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:25,000
Speaker 1: life wouldn't exist without women and right, you know, And

712
00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:27,520
Speaker 1: that's kind of like her character is that basically she

713
00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:30,920
Speaker 1: like keeps She's like the trains running on time. She

714
00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:33,560
Speaker 1: is the one that's like the metronon for him in

715
00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:36,040
Speaker 1: their lives. And I'm just sort of like good, Like

716
00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:38,560
Speaker 1: she's great. She has such a great look and a

717
00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:40,840
Speaker 1: great demeanor. Oh she is the best.

718
00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:44,680
Speaker 3: She says things that are so cutting, and she says

719
00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:49,359
Speaker 3: them so casually and it is beautiful to watch. And

720
00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:51,440
Speaker 3: I do and I like that too from that period

721
00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:54,040
Speaker 3: piece point of view where it's like, you know, women

722
00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:57,719
Speaker 3: only had a certain number of spaces and ways that

723
00:35:57,760 --> 00:36:01,040
Speaker 3: they could exert any power and she this and fucking

724
00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:02,640
Speaker 3: ran with it, and she's like, yeah, you might be

725
00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:05,640
Speaker 3: the designer, and like the look of the House of Woodcock,

726
00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:08,600
Speaker 3: I am literally everything else and don't you fucking forget

727
00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:09,320
Speaker 3: it exactly.

728
00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:11,560
Speaker 2: Oh God, I love this movie.

729
00:36:11,719 --> 00:36:14,680
Speaker 1: In fact, I want to wash it today after we

730
00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:16,080
Speaker 1: record this episode, I'm.

731
00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:17,520
Speaker 2: Like, I want to go wash it pan Thread.

732
00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:19,880
Speaker 1: I haven't seen it in like eight months, so I

733
00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:21,399
Speaker 1: guess it's time. Good.

734
00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:24,440
Speaker 3: Also, one of my favorite things during Quarantine was to

735
00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:26,839
Speaker 3: watch the movie and then I would feed Carrot while

736
00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:29,040
Speaker 3: i was like listening to the soundtrack because I'm like, yeah,

737
00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:31,640
Speaker 3: we're like in an abusive relationship my cat and I

738
00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:35,319
Speaker 3: so like feed him and then play the play the

739
00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:36,960
Speaker 3: soundtrack and be like, you never know, I get to

740
00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:38,440
Speaker 3: slip mushroom in there, dude.

741
00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:43,400
Speaker 1: I ate mushroom omelets with butter for like a month,

742
00:36:43,640 --> 00:36:46,000
Speaker 1: Like I ate it almost every afternoon for a month.

743
00:36:46,040 --> 00:36:46,759
Speaker 2: Because of this movie.

744
00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:48,759
Speaker 1: I was basically like I can't get enough for these,

745
00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:52,000
Speaker 1: Like when they take she takes the butter and it's

746
00:36:52,040 --> 00:36:53,520
Speaker 1: like sizzling in the pan.

747
00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:57,560
Speaker 3: I'm just like the fresh an omelet. Oh, the fresh

748
00:36:57,560 --> 00:36:59,440
Speaker 3: herbs threw me over the Edge. I'm like, I have

749
00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:01,000
Speaker 3: to have one. They threw me over the edge. It's

750
00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:05,399
Speaker 3: so simple and so delicious looking. Oh, I just had

751
00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:06,640
Speaker 3: to do it. I had to do it. Had to

752
00:37:06,680 --> 00:37:08,239
Speaker 3: chop some shives. Uh.

753
00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:10,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, I am so glad that we're on the same

754
00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:13,759
Speaker 2: page for this movie. I'm just thrilled to know we

755
00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:20,640
Speaker 2: both picked it over and over and over again. Yeah.

756
00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:22,719
Speaker 3: So many times I watched this movie this year so

757
00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:23,440
Speaker 3: many times.

758
00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:26,840
Speaker 2: My god, so good. Do you have another one though? Yeah?

759
00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:30,160
Speaker 3: My last pick is is It'll make you laugh. It's

760
00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:34,120
Speaker 3: a weird one because I don't I'm gonna work through

761
00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:37,120
Speaker 3: the why of it while we're talking, because I don't

762
00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:38,319
Speaker 3: know why I watched it so much.

763
00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:39,520
Speaker 2: Oh, I'm excited.

764
00:37:39,760 --> 00:37:42,400
Speaker 3: The third movie that I watched over and over again

765
00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:46,800
Speaker 3: in Quarantine was Doctor Sleep Your Magic.

766
00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:51,560
Speaker 2: Like me, I don't know about magic. I was called

767
00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:52,760
Speaker 2: it The Shining.

768
00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:58,520
Speaker 1: Oh Interestation, which is the sequel to The Shining.

769
00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:00,719
Speaker 3: I don't know.

770
00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:02,920
Speaker 2: It's just because I had HBO at my disposal.

771
00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:09,680
Speaker 3: But Ewan McGregor plays an adult Danny Torrence and he

772
00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:15,080
Speaker 3: meets another kid who has the Shine and they go

773
00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:19,400
Speaker 3: on this like epic fucking journey together that ends at

774
00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:23,600
Speaker 3: the Overlook Hotel. And I think it's a great movie

775
00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:26,919
Speaker 3: in terms of how sequels go, Like it's enough time

776
00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:29,000
Speaker 3: has passed, you get to see a different, you know,

777
00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:33,400
Speaker 3: a very different approach to what this character was in

778
00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:35,600
Speaker 3: the Shining, which is like, this is a traumatized kid

779
00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:39,640
Speaker 3: who becomes a traumatized adult. And so that was interesting

780
00:38:39,680 --> 00:38:41,960
Speaker 3: to me. I think Ewan McGregor acted his ass off

781
00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:45,200
Speaker 3: in this movie. And it's just it's again, it's a

782
00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:50,000
Speaker 3: very long movie, and it's so it's compellingly horrific, Like

783
00:38:50,040 --> 00:38:53,759
Speaker 3: it's not a horror movie in the traditional sense of

784
00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:56,919
Speaker 3: like just constantly showing gore. It's like it's an emotionally

785
00:38:57,160 --> 00:39:00,840
Speaker 3: horrific movie. And for some reason I just needed to

786
00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:02,640
Speaker 3: see it ten times over the last year.

787
00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:06,040
Speaker 1: Well, and so what is I actually never saw it?

788
00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:09,839
Speaker 1: So what what did Stephen King think about it? Like,

789
00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:12,000
Speaker 1: had there do you know, like the history about it?

790
00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:15,120
Speaker 1: Had they ever talked about doing a sequel or.

791
00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:16,880
Speaker 3: I don't know the history of it. I don't know

792
00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:19,200
Speaker 3: if Stephen King was involved in it. I don't know

793
00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:21,640
Speaker 3: if he liked it or not. I just know that

794
00:39:21,680 --> 00:39:26,040
Speaker 3: I watched it a ton, like I probably shouldn't look

795
00:39:26,080 --> 00:39:28,040
Speaker 3: that shit up as like a citizen of you know,

796
00:39:28,080 --> 00:39:30,200
Speaker 3: a person who does a movie podcast.

797
00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:32,960
Speaker 2: Now I should take an interest in it.

798
00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:35,840
Speaker 3: But I think that it's like I don't know even

799
00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:38,200
Speaker 3: I kind of like, and I don't know if this

800
00:39:38,280 --> 00:39:39,920
Speaker 3: is true, Like I don't truly don't know if Stephen

801
00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:42,080
Speaker 3: King had any involvement with the script or anything.

802
00:39:42,120 --> 00:39:45,360
Speaker 2: But I kind of liked that it didn't.

803
00:39:45,560 --> 00:39:48,160
Speaker 3: Like, I kind of like seeing someone else's perspective on

804
00:39:48,239 --> 00:39:50,880
Speaker 3: that world, because I think when you're someone who creates

805
00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:54,200
Speaker 3: those characters, it's so hard to remove yourself from them.

806
00:39:54,600 --> 00:39:56,600
Speaker 3: And so I like that somebody else was able to

807
00:39:56,640 --> 00:39:58,360
Speaker 3: come in and be like, no, this guy would be

808
00:39:58,360 --> 00:40:00,520
Speaker 3: fucked the fuck up. It wouldn't just and with like

809
00:40:00,600 --> 00:40:04,319
Speaker 3: his dad died in the snow and he was fine, right,

810
00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:05,480
Speaker 3: So I love that.

811
00:40:05,880 --> 00:40:06,520
Speaker 2: I love that.

812
00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:09,400
Speaker 1: Well and so often, I mean, it's just sort of

813
00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:12,280
Speaker 1: the thought experiment that you have after you watch a movie,

814
00:40:12,480 --> 00:40:14,960
Speaker 1: like a horror movie. It's like what happens to the

815
00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:17,479
Speaker 1: people after this like horrific thing?

816
00:40:18,200 --> 00:40:22,680
Speaker 2: And you know, it is something that I think about sometimes.

817
00:40:22,719 --> 00:40:24,719
Speaker 1: It's like what we joked about this when we talked

818
00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:27,200
Speaker 1: about Dante's Peak about like what would happen to those kids,

819
00:40:27,239 --> 00:40:31,120
Speaker 1: like after like they've survived a volcano and watched their

820
00:40:31,160 --> 00:40:33,680
Speaker 1: grandma die, and would they be in therapy for the

821
00:40:33,719 --> 00:40:36,399
Speaker 1: rest of their lives, would they've blacked out from all

822
00:40:36,440 --> 00:40:39,480
Speaker 1: of the volcanic ash and oh yeah.

823
00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:42,359
Speaker 3: They would be dead of smoke INHALATIONI for sure, Yeah, but.

824
00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:44,239
Speaker 2: It is an interesting thing to think.

825
00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:49,839
Speaker 1: Okay, Danny Torrens, who's this like incredible character, like such

826
00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:53,440
Speaker 1: an icon in horror and sort of like what happens

827
00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:54,520
Speaker 1: to him as an adult?

828
00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:54,920
Speaker 3: Right?

829
00:40:55,080 --> 00:40:57,719
Speaker 1: What happens when, like, you know, does he continue to

830
00:40:57,800 --> 00:41:02,760
Speaker 1: have this talent, does he you know, talk about his father?

831
00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:05,279
Speaker 1: Is his mother still around? Like yeah, It's just that

832
00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:07,640
Speaker 1: thing of like what would happened to this character that

833
00:41:07,719 --> 00:41:11,040
Speaker 1: we all loved when we watched the original.

834
00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:13,839
Speaker 3: And the shock of just like how fucked up it

835
00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:17,759
Speaker 3: gets for him as the world progresses around him, and

836
00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:20,399
Speaker 3: then that the little kid that he finds that has

837
00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:24,080
Speaker 3: the shine is this actress named Kylie Curran and she

838
00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:27,360
Speaker 3: plays Abra Stone. And I think the other thing that

839
00:41:27,400 --> 00:41:29,880
Speaker 3: I really fucking loved about this movie why part of

840
00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:31,640
Speaker 3: the reason why I watched it over and over again

841
00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:34,840
Speaker 3: is that she's black, and she was like a weird,

842
00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:37,480
Speaker 3: little fucking black kid who would like do her shine

843
00:41:37,520 --> 00:41:40,279
Speaker 3: tricks at birthday parties and all the kids were freaked out,

844
00:41:40,640 --> 00:41:43,680
Speaker 3: and she was a little weird, like a little nerd weirdo.

845
00:41:44,320 --> 00:41:48,720
Speaker 3: And again there's definitely some fear there and some trauma

846
00:41:48,719 --> 00:41:51,680
Speaker 3: and some shit happens to her, which makes you think

847
00:41:51,719 --> 00:41:55,120
Speaker 3: again that like her story could continue and we could see,

848
00:41:55,200 --> 00:41:57,600
Speaker 3: you know, twenty years a story about her, about Obra.

849
00:41:58,120 --> 00:42:01,120
Speaker 3: But I think that Mike Flanagan, who wrote and directed this,

850
00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:04,439
Speaker 3: I think that it was smart to choose someone who

851
00:42:04,520 --> 00:42:08,000
Speaker 3: was so different from Danny in so many ways because

852
00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:09,200
Speaker 3: it brings you into.

853
00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:11,960
Speaker 2: The story in a very modern way. But I loved her.

854
00:42:11,960 --> 00:42:15,200
Speaker 3: I loved I love a little black girl magic that's

855
00:42:15,239 --> 00:42:18,719
Speaker 3: actually magical, and I always love a little weird black

856
00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:19,479
Speaker 3: girl in a movie.

857
00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:23,080
Speaker 1: And it was great well, And that's the interesting component

858
00:42:23,120 --> 00:42:26,200
Speaker 1: too to the shining which the original movie. I mean

859
00:42:26,239 --> 00:42:28,720
Speaker 1: a lot has been written about that Scotman Crothers character

860
00:42:28,920 --> 00:42:31,400
Speaker 1: in this sense that like, you know, he had the

861
00:42:31,440 --> 00:42:34,480
Speaker 1: shine right and he was the one that sort of

862
00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:38,280
Speaker 1: told Danny about his own talent in his own exactly.

863
00:42:38,360 --> 00:42:40,400
Speaker 2: You know, I think Now.

864
00:42:40,080 --> 00:42:43,520
Speaker 1: Like if you take that concept and you say, oh, well,

865
00:42:43,520 --> 00:42:46,960
Speaker 1: here's this other little girl who has the talent, but

866
00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:50,560
Speaker 1: then you can go so far with her story. Now

867
00:42:50,840 --> 00:42:53,200
Speaker 1: whereas like in the movie in the Shining, I mean

868
00:42:53,320 --> 00:42:58,200
Speaker 1: spoiler alert, he fucking dies, okay, which sucks, But like

869
00:42:58,560 --> 00:43:03,520
Speaker 1: the in this New Realm of Possibilities, Yeah, she has

870
00:43:03,560 --> 00:43:06,480
Speaker 1: a magic, she has the magic, she has that talent,

871
00:43:06,680 --> 00:43:09,680
Speaker 1: but she could also be this whole other component to

872
00:43:09,719 --> 00:43:13,959
Speaker 1: the story, you know, where she doesn't have to die

873
00:43:14,040 --> 00:43:16,800
Speaker 1: and she doesn't have to be this like one sided character.

874
00:43:16,920 --> 00:43:21,120
Speaker 1: She can be really textured and interesting. And so I

875
00:43:21,160 --> 00:43:23,319
Speaker 1: think it's great. That's such a great idea to be

876
00:43:23,360 --> 00:43:28,120
Speaker 1: able to like prolong the sort of mythology of the

877
00:43:28,160 --> 00:43:31,560
Speaker 1: Shining with this little girl completely. Yea.

878
00:43:31,719 --> 00:43:34,280
Speaker 3: And they show her family and like her mom and dad,

879
00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:36,560
Speaker 3: and I have to say, like, when I first saw

880
00:43:36,560 --> 00:43:38,640
Speaker 3: her on screen, I'm like, they're gonna do some bullshit

881
00:43:38,680 --> 00:43:41,400
Speaker 3: and say she's like Scatman brother's granddaughter or something to

882
00:43:41,520 --> 00:43:43,840
Speaker 3: tie it back to the only fucking black person in

883
00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:47,160
Speaker 3: the movie. But they didn't. They didn't, And I appreciated

884
00:43:47,160 --> 00:43:48,319
Speaker 3: that so much more.

885
00:43:49,040 --> 00:43:50,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, And like you.

886
00:43:50,080 --> 00:43:51,880
Speaker 1: Know, at a certain point, you know, how it is

887
00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:57,240
Speaker 1: now these days where every you know, intellectual property has

888
00:43:57,320 --> 00:44:01,960
Speaker 1: like many many branches and many many sequels and potential

889
00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:06,160
Speaker 1: storylines and they develop their own IP. But in this case,

890
00:44:06,200 --> 00:44:08,919
Speaker 1: I think this could be an interesting way to do it, right,

891
00:44:09,040 --> 00:44:11,400
Speaker 1: Like I'm like, I want to know more about her

892
00:44:11,960 --> 00:44:17,200
Speaker 1: and sort of what this whole shining is, like what

893
00:44:17,360 --> 00:44:18,920
Speaker 1: it is and where it came from.

894
00:44:18,960 --> 00:44:22,120
Speaker 2: So I will have to watch it. You have to

895
00:44:22,160 --> 00:44:22,600
Speaker 2: watch it.

896
00:44:22,960 --> 00:44:26,000
Speaker 3: Phantom Thread, Doctor Sleep, Double Feature will come up with

897
00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:31,040
Speaker 3: a theme, but there is It's just it's very it's

898
00:44:31,080 --> 00:44:33,920
Speaker 3: an interesting movie in so many levels. It's a great story,

899
00:44:34,200 --> 00:44:36,080
Speaker 3: Like it's very easy to get suck into the story.

900
00:44:36,560 --> 00:44:39,440
Speaker 3: And like you were saying before, like there is definitely

901
00:44:39,480 --> 00:44:41,799
Speaker 3: a trope, like a movie trope that exists called the

902
00:44:41,840 --> 00:44:44,600
Speaker 3: magical Negro, and you're thinking of things like the legend

903
00:44:44,600 --> 00:44:47,200
Speaker 3: of Bagger Vants or whatever, where it's like this black

904
00:44:47,200 --> 00:44:50,680
Speaker 3: person just shows up to like mystically help a white

905
00:44:50,680 --> 00:44:53,760
Speaker 3: person and then they disappear either by death or by magic.

906
00:44:54,040 --> 00:44:55,440
Speaker 3: And so I just really I don't know. I think

907
00:44:55,440 --> 00:44:57,000
Speaker 3: that's why I kind of locked into the story. A

908
00:44:57,040 --> 00:45:00,120
Speaker 3: little more too, is that her mysticism was rooted and

909
00:45:00,239 --> 00:45:04,120
Speaker 3: something that matched the emotional horror of the film, and

910
00:45:04,160 --> 00:45:04,719
Speaker 3: I loved it.

911
00:45:05,200 --> 00:45:08,000
Speaker 1: Oh, I can't wait to see it now. Every time

912
00:45:08,040 --> 00:45:09,680
Speaker 1: it pops up on is it on Netflix?

913
00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:12,520
Speaker 3: Or is it on It was on HBO, mat I

914
00:45:12,520 --> 00:45:14,040
Speaker 3: think it might be on Netflix now.

915
00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:15,960
Speaker 2: I just bought it.

916
00:45:16,280 --> 00:45:19,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, like the third time I wanted to watch it, it

917
00:45:19,680 --> 00:45:21,759
Speaker 3: was off HBO, and I'm like, well, I'm buying it.

918
00:45:22,680 --> 00:45:25,239
Speaker 1: Well, honestly, I've seen the Shining so much because of

919
00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:27,759
Speaker 1: that Shining class that took in grad school. But I

920
00:45:27,880 --> 00:45:30,560
Speaker 1: have to I have to watch the sequel. It doesn't

921
00:45:30,640 --> 00:45:32,160
Speaker 1: I have to wrap it up, you know what I mean,

922
00:45:32,320 --> 00:45:36,160
Speaker 1: watch it to day. Well that's a good choice, thank you.

923
00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:37,640
Speaker 2: What's your last choice?

924
00:45:37,680 --> 00:45:37,879
Speaker 1: Oh?

925
00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:40,160
Speaker 2: Mind it. This is so stupid, like this is just

926
00:45:40,200 --> 00:45:41,080
Speaker 2: a stupid thing.

927
00:45:41,680 --> 00:45:43,799
Speaker 1: Like if you know me, of course I'm gonna say this,

928
00:45:43,960 --> 00:45:46,040
Speaker 1: but my last movie is Dirty Dancing.

929
00:45:46,920 --> 00:45:50,120
Speaker 2: She thought it would be just another summer vacation. Who's

930
00:45:50,200 --> 00:45:53,960
Speaker 2: that know them didn't dance people, But it turns out

931
00:45:54,040 --> 00:46:00,440
Speaker 2: to be the time of her life. It's just so dumb.

932
00:46:00,480 --> 00:46:03,440
Speaker 1: I've seen this movie like so many fucking times that

933
00:46:03,480 --> 00:46:06,960
Speaker 1: I will never stop and I will never apologize. It's

934
00:46:07,000 --> 00:46:09,120
Speaker 1: this movie It's a movie that I swear to God,

935
00:46:09,360 --> 00:46:12,520
Speaker 1: I just I will love forever.

936
00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:14,400
Speaker 2: I watch it like all the time.

937
00:46:14,960 --> 00:46:17,400
Speaker 1: That's another movie like Forrest Gump that's just always on

938
00:46:17,520 --> 00:46:21,680
Speaker 1: fucking TV. I'm always gonna watch it, literally every time

939
00:46:21,680 --> 00:46:24,920
Speaker 1: it comes on. I will go to conventions about it.

940
00:46:25,000 --> 00:46:29,279
Speaker 1: I will fucking do whatever it takes. I you know,

941
00:46:29,400 --> 00:46:31,920
Speaker 1: I've never done cosplay in my entire life, but if

942
00:46:31,920 --> 00:46:33,440
Speaker 1: there is a chance for me to do that, I

943
00:46:33,480 --> 00:46:36,360
Speaker 1: will fucking do it. Like It's the one movie that

944
00:46:36,400 --> 00:46:41,920
Speaker 1: I'm just all in on unapologetically, and I can't help it.

945
00:46:42,160 --> 00:46:44,799
Speaker 2: I kind of love this because I gotta say.

946
00:46:44,920 --> 00:46:48,239
Speaker 3: On the flip side, Dirty Dancing is a movie that

947
00:46:48,280 --> 00:46:53,279
Speaker 3: I hope I never have to watch again. And I

948
00:46:53,360 --> 00:46:55,160
Speaker 3: don't know why it came out when I was in

949
00:46:55,160 --> 00:46:58,640
Speaker 3: fifth grade. Yeah, I completely missed the abortion storyline.

950
00:46:58,680 --> 00:47:00,600
Speaker 2: Like I liked the dancing. It was fine.

951
00:47:00,680 --> 00:47:04,080
Speaker 3: I think society wore me down when it came to

952
00:47:04,120 --> 00:47:04,760
Speaker 3: Dirty Dancing.

953
00:47:04,880 --> 00:47:06,680
Speaker 2: Oh, it was complete overkill.

954
00:47:06,800 --> 00:47:11,680
Speaker 1: I'm free to admit that it was a phenomenon that

955
00:47:12,040 --> 00:47:15,560
Speaker 1: was so deeply corny when it came out that there's

956
00:47:15,600 --> 00:47:18,239
Speaker 1: people out there that will curse the fucking name every

957
00:47:18,239 --> 00:47:21,239
Speaker 1: time it's uttered because it was that kind of thing too,

958
00:47:21,280 --> 00:47:24,040
Speaker 1: where like when dirty dancing came out, it was sort

959
00:47:24,080 --> 00:47:27,480
Speaker 1: of like a dance craze, even though there isn't a

960
00:47:27,600 --> 00:47:29,440
Speaker 1: dance move to dirty dance.

961
00:47:29,560 --> 00:47:31,239
Speaker 2: It literally just put.

962
00:47:31,080 --> 00:47:37,680
Speaker 1: Your dick around somebody's vagina or ass, and that's the dance.

963
00:47:38,160 --> 00:47:41,000
Speaker 2: Because nobody's lifting up their partner. That's for fucking short.

964
00:47:41,120 --> 00:47:44,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was just literally grinding. That's what dirty dancing is,

965
00:47:44,640 --> 00:47:48,440
Speaker 1: is grinding on people. But the way that the culture

966
00:47:48,680 --> 00:47:52,000
Speaker 1: received it, it was like, check out this new dance

967
00:47:52,080 --> 00:47:56,320
Speaker 1: craze where people are just like rubbing boners on people.

968
00:47:56,680 --> 00:47:59,920
Speaker 3: Like that scene where they're all dancing where she goes

969
00:48:00,160 --> 00:48:03,400
Speaker 3: to Johnny's cabin or whatever in the earth where wherever

970
00:48:03,400 --> 00:48:05,320
Speaker 3: it is that they're dancing like him and his friends.

971
00:48:05,719 --> 00:48:07,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, and they're all just like.

972
00:48:07,080 --> 00:48:09,279
Speaker 3: Sweaty and grinding, like this is what we do and

973
00:48:09,360 --> 00:48:11,799
Speaker 3: we're not at work. We just grind and sweat and

974
00:48:11,840 --> 00:48:16,040
Speaker 3: I'm just like, Okay, that's existed since fucking the beginning

975
00:48:16,040 --> 00:48:17,879
Speaker 3: of time, dude.

976
00:48:17,800 --> 00:48:22,240
Speaker 1: Right, which on its own conceptually is fine.

977
00:48:22,480 --> 00:48:23,799
Speaker 2: Right, It's like, okay, here's a movie.

978
00:48:23,840 --> 00:48:27,520
Speaker 1: We're like, okay, it's the early sixties and you know,

979
00:48:27,600 --> 00:48:30,839
Speaker 1: everybody's real uptight, but then there's like this, you know,

980
00:48:31,480 --> 00:48:35,080
Speaker 1: this group of people that like to fucking get loose,

981
00:48:35,480 --> 00:48:40,840
Speaker 1: and it loosens up the fucking whatever moral majority or

982
00:48:40,840 --> 00:48:46,800
Speaker 1: whatever the fuck the movie's but the phenomenon had created

983
00:48:46,880 --> 00:48:49,919
Speaker 1: in the eighties when it came out was that like, oh,

984
00:48:50,120 --> 00:48:55,000
Speaker 1: now people's moms were going to the rec center in

985
00:48:55,040 --> 00:48:59,160
Speaker 1: the neighborhood and trying out some dirty dancing with the

986
00:48:59,160 --> 00:49:02,600
Speaker 1: goals and shit, and I'm just like, this is fucking ridiculous.

987
00:49:02,680 --> 00:49:04,040
Speaker 1: This is not a dance move.

988
00:49:04,680 --> 00:49:06,440
Speaker 2: It's just and it's it.

989
00:49:06,520 --> 00:49:08,799
Speaker 3: Sucks because it's not that the movie is bad, it's

990
00:49:08,840 --> 00:49:11,040
Speaker 3: that culture ruined the movie for me, right.

991
00:49:10,920 --> 00:49:12,279
Speaker 1: And it was the kind of thing where it's like

992
00:49:12,320 --> 00:49:15,879
Speaker 1: on the Today Show, we've got like some dirty dancers

993
00:49:16,160 --> 00:49:18,600
Speaker 1: who are here to teach us a little bit more

994
00:49:19,160 --> 00:49:22,120
Speaker 1: about you know, this dance craze, and I'm like, it's

995
00:49:22,160 --> 00:49:26,160
Speaker 1: not a fucking dance craze. It's just people feeling emotional

996
00:49:26,360 --> 00:49:27,240
Speaker 1: while dancing.

997
00:49:27,840 --> 00:49:30,000
Speaker 2: It's called dry humping. Look at us.

998
00:49:30,080 --> 00:49:33,439
Speaker 1: Yes, I mean like, it's not even the lumbana, which

999
00:49:33,480 --> 00:49:37,600
Speaker 1: is essentially the Latin version of dirty. You know, it's

1000
00:49:37,640 --> 00:49:39,000
Speaker 1: just sort of like that thing where you're just sort

1001
00:49:39,040 --> 00:49:41,360
Speaker 1: of like, oh my god, people are so stupid and

1002
00:49:41,400 --> 00:49:46,040
Speaker 1: they need dance crazes in their lives, you know, like

1003
00:49:46,120 --> 00:49:49,040
Speaker 1: to feel to feel real or something. But it's that

1004
00:49:49,200 --> 00:49:54,480
Speaker 1: thing where, in spite of all that corniness, I fucking

1005
00:49:54,920 --> 00:49:57,719
Speaker 1: love it, and I but I understand why you would

1006
00:49:57,760 --> 00:49:58,840
Speaker 1: hate it, is what I'm saying.

1007
00:49:58,920 --> 00:49:59,560
Speaker 2: I understand.

1008
00:49:59,560 --> 00:50:01,360
Speaker 3: But also it makes sense to me why you would

1009
00:50:01,400 --> 00:50:03,000
Speaker 3: like it and watch it over and over and over

1010
00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:06,279
Speaker 3: again because you love dance, and there is so much

1011
00:50:06,560 --> 00:50:09,520
Speaker 3: dance in this movie, Like they're chock full of dancing

1012
00:50:09,680 --> 00:50:10,320
Speaker 3: in this movie.

1013
00:50:10,760 --> 00:50:14,080
Speaker 2: It's it's dancing. It's the time period again.

1014
00:50:14,719 --> 00:50:19,560
Speaker 1: It's Patrick Swayzee, not gonna lie. I needed an older

1015
00:50:19,600 --> 00:50:23,080
Speaker 1: man in my life at that era, a ghost who

1016
00:50:23,160 --> 00:50:25,839
Speaker 1: was not a ghost but was sort of like he's

1017
00:50:25,920 --> 00:50:27,760
Speaker 1: the older boyfriend that we all wanted.

1018
00:50:27,840 --> 00:50:28,839
Speaker 2: And it was just sort of.

1019
00:50:28,760 --> 00:50:32,080
Speaker 1: Like again, it's just this idea of like, you know,

1020
00:50:32,280 --> 00:50:35,960
Speaker 1: the fish out of water, like poor versus rich, like

1021
00:50:36,000 --> 00:50:40,520
Speaker 1: the whole like you know, yeh, posing sides of the tracks.

1022
00:50:40,760 --> 00:50:43,160
Speaker 2: I talked about this when we talked about dB Sweeney.

1023
00:50:43,719 --> 00:50:46,680
Speaker 1: I just love a stupid fucking story like that, and

1024
00:50:47,360 --> 00:50:52,160
Speaker 1: I'm obsessed with going to camp and like having camp

1025
00:50:52,280 --> 00:50:54,600
Speaker 1: romances and shit, I mean it all is. It just

1026
00:50:54,680 --> 00:50:59,400
Speaker 1: crystallizes all of my fucking deep interests.

1027
00:50:59,440 --> 00:51:01,919
Speaker 2: And in one film you.

1028
00:51:01,880 --> 00:51:05,960
Speaker 3: Love a river dancing over a river, like you love

1029
00:51:05,960 --> 00:51:08,719
Speaker 3: a creek, you love the woods.

1030
00:51:09,040 --> 00:51:13,200
Speaker 1: I love it when you know Republican guys or like

1031
00:51:13,239 --> 00:51:19,360
Speaker 1: libertarian guys are busted at the end for perpetuating crimes

1032
00:51:19,360 --> 00:51:20,080
Speaker 1: against women.

1033
00:51:20,560 --> 00:51:21,399
Speaker 2: So it's all great.

1034
00:51:21,440 --> 00:51:24,200
Speaker 3: This movie has everything. This movie truly has. It is

1035
00:51:24,239 --> 00:51:26,680
Speaker 3: not at all surprising to me that this is one

1036
00:51:26,719 --> 00:51:29,600
Speaker 3: of your like over like rewatches over and over again

1037
00:51:29,760 --> 00:51:30,120
Speaker 3: at all.

1038
00:51:30,360 --> 00:51:36,040
Speaker 1: It's pure comfort, pure fucking comfort. And again, like I

1039
00:51:36,600 --> 00:51:39,240
Speaker 1: can't I just love it. It's like I can't even

1040
00:51:39,440 --> 00:51:42,759
Speaker 1: imagine a world where I wouldn't be all in on

1041
00:51:42,960 --> 00:51:47,560
Speaker 1: dirty dancing. I just I'm not too cool for dirty dancing.

1042
00:51:47,600 --> 00:51:51,960
Speaker 1: I love it so much. That's so sweet. Yeah, but

1043
00:51:52,200 --> 00:51:54,400
Speaker 1: I that's it for me, me too, And this I

1044
00:51:54,440 --> 00:51:56,400
Speaker 1: love that we had an overlap. Whenever we do a

1045
00:51:56,480 --> 00:51:59,040
Speaker 1: list of movies and we have an overlap, it just

1046
00:51:59,120 --> 00:51:59,919
Speaker 1: warms my heart.

1047
00:52:00,120 --> 00:52:00,480
Speaker 2: Me too.

1048
00:52:01,200 --> 00:52:03,680
Speaker 3: But yeah, also, I'm glad that we're at least through

1049
00:52:03,760 --> 00:52:05,959
Speaker 3: the last year. I don't know what the fuck's gonna

1050
00:52:05,960 --> 00:52:07,799
Speaker 3: happen in the next year, but we're at least through

1051
00:52:07,840 --> 00:52:10,239
Speaker 3: the last one, and should it come down to it,

1052
00:52:10,920 --> 00:52:14,200
Speaker 3: and we're stuck inside again, I'm watching these movies back

1053
00:52:14,200 --> 00:52:14,640
Speaker 3: to back.

1054
00:52:15,000 --> 00:52:17,400
Speaker 2: These are my Quarantine movie. Yeah, we're gonna have.

1055
00:52:17,400 --> 00:52:19,399
Speaker 1: To do like a part two, three, four, and five

1056
00:52:19,719 --> 00:52:22,439
Speaker 1: because there's all these other movies too that I watch

1057
00:52:22,480 --> 00:52:24,600
Speaker 1: over and over again, and maybe for different reasons than

1058
00:52:24,600 --> 00:52:27,759
Speaker 1: the ones that we had today, but like, honestly, just

1059
00:52:27,840 --> 00:52:31,360
Speaker 1: these three alone, well, oh hook, Like if there is

1060
00:52:31,440 --> 00:52:37,120
Speaker 1: another fucking pandemic, which knock on wood won't happen, but

1061
00:52:37,360 --> 00:52:39,080
Speaker 1: if there is, I mean, at least we've got these

1062
00:52:39,120 --> 00:52:41,879
Speaker 1: three and we can watch them at forever and ever

1063
00:52:41,920 --> 00:52:43,480
Speaker 1: and ever, wouldn't get Yeah, so.

1064
00:52:44,160 --> 00:52:46,239
Speaker 3: I could do a list of movies I watch over

1065
00:52:46,280 --> 00:52:48,400
Speaker 3: and over again when I'm sick when I have a cold,

1066
00:52:48,560 --> 00:52:51,520
Speaker 3: like movies I watch over and over again when.

1067
00:52:51,719 --> 00:52:56,480
Speaker 2: It's too hot to move. Right, Let's do it. There's

1068
00:52:56,480 --> 00:52:58,040
Speaker 2: a lot, Let's do it again.

1069
00:52:59,520 --> 00:53:02,839
Speaker 3: But thanks, Hey, everybody, so fun, Thank you so much

1070
00:53:02,880 --> 00:53:04,640
Speaker 3: for listening, Thank you for being here.

1071
00:53:05,280 --> 00:53:06,760
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1072
00:53:07,560 --> 00:53:12,440
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00:53:16,680 --> 00:53:20,640
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1075
00:53:21,120 --> 00:53:21,840
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1076
00:53:21,960 --> 00:53:24,240
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1077
00:53:24,360 --> 00:53:28,000
Speaker 1: or really want us to discuss or whatever, just email

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00:53:29,320 --> 00:53:32,200
Speaker 2: Gmail and yeah, that's it.

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Speaker 1: I guess until next time, Bye, bye bye.

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Speaker 3: This has been an exactly right production. Our producers Alexis A. Marissi.

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00:53:46,200 --> 00:53:49,759
Speaker 2: Our engineers on Aalise Nelson. Our theme songs by Tom Bryfogel,

1083
00:53:50,120 --> 00:53:51,360
Speaker 2: artwork by Garrett Ross.

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Speaker 3: Our executive producers are Georgia hart Start, Karen til Gareth

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00:53:54,600 --> 00:53:57,680
Speaker 3: and Danielle Kramer. Follow us on Instagram and Twitter at

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