1 00:00:01,760 --> 00:00:04,800 Speaker 1: Hey, discos, need a little more Disgraceland in your life, 2 00:00:05,160 --> 00:00:06,640 Speaker 1: just to touch to get you through. 3 00:00:07,400 --> 00:00:08,039 Speaker 2: Yeah, me too. 4 00:00:08,760 --> 00:00:12,000 Speaker 1: This is the podcast that comes after the podcast. Welcome 5 00:00:12,000 --> 00:00:31,120 Speaker 1: to Disgraceland, the after Party. Welcome to the Disgraceland bonus episode, 6 00:00:31,160 --> 00:00:33,879 Speaker 1: a little thing we like to call the after party. 7 00:00:34,159 --> 00:00:36,400 Speaker 1: This is the show after the show, the party after 8 00:00:36,400 --> 00:00:37,959 Speaker 1: the party, the bridge to get you from one full 9 00:00:38,000 --> 00:00:41,080 Speaker 1: episode of Disgraceland to the other, the backyard to dig 10 00:00:41,200 --> 00:00:44,880 Speaker 1: into the dirt. On this bonus episode, we are talking 11 00:00:44,920 --> 00:00:48,360 Speaker 1: about this week's subject of the Disgraceland full episode, the 12 00:00:48,479 --> 00:00:52,479 Speaker 1: nineteen eighty six New York Mets. Also talking about the 13 00:00:52,520 --> 00:00:57,279 Speaker 1: greatest sports towns and sports movies, Sean Diddy Coombs's birthday 14 00:00:57,320 --> 00:01:01,280 Speaker 1: behind bars, and of course we are diving into your voicemails, 15 00:01:01,320 --> 00:01:05,160 Speaker 1: texts and more, and as always, a whole lot of rows. 16 00:01:05,520 --> 00:01:18,600 Speaker 1: All right, discoes, let's get into it. So when I 17 00:01:18,640 --> 00:01:20,920 Speaker 1: finished writing the eighty six Mets episode that you all 18 00:01:20,959 --> 00:01:23,480 Speaker 1: heard in your feed this week, I was convinced the 19 00:01:23,520 --> 00:01:27,440 Speaker 1: stars had aligned. The release of this episode would coincide 20 00:01:27,480 --> 00:01:31,120 Speaker 1: with a twenty twenty four World Series championship for the 21 00:01:31,160 --> 00:01:34,560 Speaker 1: New York Mets. I was certain that it would be 22 00:01:34,640 --> 00:01:38,280 Speaker 1: what the Grateful Dead called synchronicity, and why wouldn't it be. 23 00:01:38,720 --> 00:01:42,200 Speaker 1: The Dead were San Francisco Giants fans, and the Mets 24 00:01:42,480 --> 00:01:45,400 Speaker 1: had the San Francisco Giants formerly the New York Giants 25 00:01:45,480 --> 00:01:48,640 Speaker 1: in their DNA. The orange and the Mets uniforms is 26 00:01:48,680 --> 00:01:51,760 Speaker 1: a nod to the former residents of New York's Polo Grounds, 27 00:01:51,800 --> 00:01:53,640 Speaker 1: but you knew that because you just listened to the 28 00:01:53,720 --> 00:01:57,160 Speaker 1: latest episode of Disgrace Sam. But more important, this year, 29 00:01:57,280 --> 00:02:01,320 Speaker 1: the Mets were playing like a team of destiny. They 30 00:02:01,360 --> 00:02:04,080 Speaker 1: came back from like eleven games out of first place 31 00:02:04,120 --> 00:02:06,320 Speaker 1: to make the playoffs in the final days of the season, 32 00:02:06,640 --> 00:02:10,200 Speaker 1: and then they promptly disposed of the Philadelphia Phillies, who 33 00:02:10,240 --> 00:02:14,320 Speaker 1: were by any account a much better team. Then, of course, 34 00:02:14,480 --> 00:02:17,320 Speaker 1: they ran into the buzzsaw that was the La Dodgers, 35 00:02:17,800 --> 00:02:21,040 Speaker 1: the team that once played at Brooklyn's at Its Field, 36 00:02:21,760 --> 00:02:24,160 Speaker 1: and the team that the Mets took the blue from 37 00:02:24,440 --> 00:02:27,160 Speaker 1: for their uniforms. Again, you'd know that if you listen 38 00:02:27,240 --> 00:02:31,120 Speaker 1: to this week's episode on the Mets. So my point, 39 00:02:31,480 --> 00:02:34,040 Speaker 1: my plan did not work, but it almost did. It 40 00:02:34,080 --> 00:02:35,840 Speaker 1: almost did. If the Mets cut by the Dodgers and 41 00:02:35,880 --> 00:02:39,040 Speaker 1: into the World Series. If the series went to six 42 00:02:39,160 --> 00:02:42,200 Speaker 1: or seven games, again a big assumption on my part, 43 00:02:42,480 --> 00:02:45,080 Speaker 1: then this week's Disgraceland episode on the Mets would have 44 00:02:45,120 --> 00:02:48,040 Speaker 1: been released while the Mets were playing or had just 45 00:02:48,160 --> 00:02:53,680 Speaker 1: finished their title run against the New York Yankees, who 46 00:02:54,040 --> 00:02:56,320 Speaker 1: in a lot of ways are the villains of this 47 00:02:56,360 --> 00:03:01,480 Speaker 1: week's episode. So it was almost perfect perfect. It was 48 00:03:01,520 --> 00:03:04,720 Speaker 1: too perfect, though, and of course it didn't work out 49 00:03:04,760 --> 00:03:07,120 Speaker 1: that way. Just like in sports, we don't get what 50 00:03:07,160 --> 00:03:09,359 Speaker 1: we want a lot of the time. As a Red 51 00:03:09,400 --> 00:03:12,240 Speaker 1: Sox and Patriots fan these days, of course, I know 52 00:03:12,520 --> 00:03:15,520 Speaker 1: that all too well. And given the week that we're 53 00:03:15,560 --> 00:03:17,200 Speaker 1: living through right now, a lot of Americans are waking 54 00:03:17,280 --> 00:03:19,120 Speaker 1: up this morning and they're not getting what they wanted 55 00:03:19,200 --> 00:03:20,920 Speaker 1: for other reasons that I'm not going to talk about. 56 00:03:20,960 --> 00:03:24,679 Speaker 1: But as I record this, I'm not sure which Americans 57 00:03:24,880 --> 00:03:27,080 Speaker 1: those are, But either way, my heart goes out to 58 00:03:27,120 --> 00:03:28,680 Speaker 1: them just the same, just as it would to the 59 00:03:28,680 --> 00:03:32,839 Speaker 1: fans of losing team that my team disposed of. That's, 60 00:03:33,200 --> 00:03:36,760 Speaker 1: of course, good sportsmanship, that's grace. That's what we need 61 00:03:36,800 --> 00:03:38,840 Speaker 1: more of, not only in sports but in life and 62 00:03:38,920 --> 00:03:41,520 Speaker 1: especially in this country right now. But back to the 63 00:03:41,560 --> 00:03:46,000 Speaker 1: perfection that was to be the timing of this Mets 64 00:03:46,040 --> 00:03:50,000 Speaker 1: episode release. I love this episode. I love it the 65 00:03:50,040 --> 00:03:52,600 Speaker 1: true crime story that is adjacent to the story detailing 66 00:03:52,600 --> 00:03:54,400 Speaker 1: of the debauchery of the New York Mets, and the 67 00:03:54,400 --> 00:03:58,119 Speaker 1: theme of corruption the whole thing. When I was researching it, 68 00:03:58,240 --> 00:03:59,880 Speaker 1: I was like, damn it, this would make a great 69 00:04:00,160 --> 00:04:03,520 Speaker 1: sports movie. And as I was listening to the episode 70 00:04:03,560 --> 00:04:06,120 Speaker 1: this morning in preparation of talking to you guys right now, 71 00:04:06,760 --> 00:04:08,800 Speaker 1: thinking about it all, I started thinking about the great 72 00:04:08,840 --> 00:04:11,640 Speaker 1: sports movies, the greatest ones of all time, and this 73 00:04:11,680 --> 00:04:13,280 Speaker 1: should have been the question of the week. The question 74 00:04:13,320 --> 00:04:14,839 Speaker 1: of the week that we're going to get to later 75 00:04:14,880 --> 00:04:17,080 Speaker 1: in the episode was what are the great sports towns? 76 00:04:17,120 --> 00:04:20,040 Speaker 1: Because the Mets episode is very much, very very very 77 00:04:20,120 --> 00:04:23,200 Speaker 1: much about Queens, New York, so that was an obvious one. 78 00:04:23,200 --> 00:04:25,840 Speaker 1: But I kind of like this one better. I liked 79 00:04:25,839 --> 00:04:27,760 Speaker 1: the question of what are the greatest sports movies of 80 00:04:27,800 --> 00:04:29,480 Speaker 1: all time? And it got me thinking about that answer. 81 00:04:29,520 --> 00:04:32,440 Speaker 1: So I looked it up and Rolling Stone, surprisingly they 82 00:04:32,520 --> 00:04:34,919 Speaker 1: list the top thirty. It's a pretty great list, I 83 00:04:34,960 --> 00:04:38,599 Speaker 1: gotta say for Rolling Stone, I'm actually very surprised most 84 00:04:38,640 --> 00:04:40,960 Speaker 1: I've seen most of these films, I've seen a few 85 00:04:40,960 --> 00:04:43,680 Speaker 1: that I haven't that I absolutely should. But more important, 86 00:04:43,720 --> 00:04:46,000 Speaker 1: I'm super interested to know what you guys think of 87 00:04:46,040 --> 00:04:49,320 Speaker 1: this list, but also which sports movies are your favorites. 88 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:51,960 Speaker 1: Number ten on the list, Friday Night Lights. I've actually 89 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:54,000 Speaker 1: never seen the movie. I've seen parts of the television series, 90 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:58,040 Speaker 1: which I liked, not enough to finish it. Now I'm compelled. 91 00:04:58,080 --> 00:05:00,560 Speaker 1: I'm reminded I should say to see the to see 92 00:05:00,560 --> 00:05:04,320 Speaker 1: Friday Night Lights. I'm sure some of you guys have Senna. No, 93 00:05:04,360 --> 00:05:06,680 Speaker 1: I've never even heard of this. This is number nine, Senna. 94 00:05:07,160 --> 00:05:10,400 Speaker 1: It's a Grand Prix racing movie. Number eight though, when 95 00:05:10,400 --> 00:05:13,839 Speaker 1: we were Kings. Great documentary, but Muhammad Ali and George 96 00:05:13,839 --> 00:05:18,720 Speaker 1: Foreman fighting in Africa. This takes place in nineteen seventy four. 97 00:05:18,760 --> 00:05:22,000 Speaker 1: I've seen this before in parts. I've never sat down 98 00:05:22,040 --> 00:05:24,160 Speaker 1: and watched the whole thing, but I've loved it. I'm 99 00:05:24,160 --> 00:05:26,000 Speaker 1: pretty sure this is the one that has a fantastic 100 00:05:26,080 --> 00:05:30,599 Speaker 1: James Brown performance. Number seven. This is way too low 101 00:05:30,640 --> 00:05:33,719 Speaker 1: on the list. This might be top two for me. 102 00:05:34,640 --> 00:05:40,800 Speaker 1: Top three Slapshot Okay, just incredible movie. Probably my favorite 103 00:05:40,839 --> 00:05:44,680 Speaker 1: Paul Newman performance of all time. I love this fucking movie. 104 00:05:44,920 --> 00:05:47,400 Speaker 1: If this is on, I will stop whatever I'm doing 105 00:05:47,440 --> 00:05:49,080 Speaker 1: and I will watch it. I watched this movie a 106 00:05:49,080 --> 00:05:51,760 Speaker 1: couple times a year without fail, every single year. It 107 00:05:51,839 --> 00:05:55,159 Speaker 1: is that good. One of the great drama ties of 108 00:05:55,160 --> 00:05:58,600 Speaker 1: all time, probably more of a comedy, just incredible. I'm 109 00:05:58,600 --> 00:06:01,760 Speaker 1: pretty sure that the Handsome Brothers' grandkids go to my church. 110 00:06:02,120 --> 00:06:05,360 Speaker 1: Not officially, but there are two dudes that just God 111 00:06:05,360 --> 00:06:07,719 Speaker 1: bless them. They look they look just like these dudes, 112 00:06:08,120 --> 00:06:12,440 Speaker 1: all right. Number six Bull Durham, incredible baseball movie. Might 113 00:06:12,480 --> 00:06:15,880 Speaker 1: be the best baseball movie. That's number six. That feels 114 00:06:15,960 --> 00:06:19,840 Speaker 1: low too, But this this list is stacked. I love 115 00:06:19,880 --> 00:06:24,039 Speaker 1: Bull Durham because it's written, obviously with so much awareness 116 00:06:24,120 --> 00:06:28,680 Speaker 1: of inside baseball, baseball history, what it's like to be 117 00:06:28,760 --> 00:06:31,960 Speaker 1: a journeyman baseball player. You get a real different look 118 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:34,080 Speaker 1: at baseball through Bull Durham, through the eyes of a 119 00:06:34,560 --> 00:06:36,920 Speaker 1: sort of of the working class ball players who make 120 00:06:37,000 --> 00:06:43,200 Speaker 1: up the lower leagues. And awesome performances by Tim Roberts, 121 00:06:43,760 --> 00:06:48,480 Speaker 1: Susan Sarandon, and of course Kevin Costner just tremendous. Also 122 00:06:49,279 --> 00:06:54,840 Speaker 1: number five. This feels, this feels right, this ranking, and 123 00:06:55,080 --> 00:06:57,839 Speaker 1: it's so silly that you might think it doesn't belong 124 00:06:57,880 --> 00:07:00,160 Speaker 1: on the list, but it absolutely belongs on the list. 125 00:07:00,240 --> 00:07:04,320 Speaker 1: And it's Caddy shack Okay, just tremendous. So much of 126 00:07:04,320 --> 00:07:07,200 Speaker 1: this movie has infiltrated our culture, the way we talk. 127 00:07:07,360 --> 00:07:10,560 Speaker 1: We don't even realize it. There's so many jokes that 128 00:07:10,600 --> 00:07:13,240 Speaker 1: we tell that are rooted in this movie. I'm not 129 00:07:13,280 --> 00:07:16,119 Speaker 1: even a golfer and I've never golfed in my life, 130 00:07:16,160 --> 00:07:18,160 Speaker 1: and I love this movie. Number four, Now, this one 131 00:07:18,240 --> 00:07:21,239 Speaker 1: might be the best, might be the best sports movie 132 00:07:21,240 --> 00:07:24,000 Speaker 1: of all time. In the running for one of the 133 00:07:24,040 --> 00:07:28,120 Speaker 1: greatest movies of all time, I would argue Raging Bull incredible, 134 00:07:28,240 --> 00:07:32,240 Speaker 1: of course, Robert de Niro, Martin Scorsese. I mean, I 135 00:07:32,280 --> 00:07:33,640 Speaker 1: don't even know what I can say. You know what 136 00:07:33,640 --> 00:07:36,920 Speaker 1: I'm gonna say. We have a Martin Scorsese episode coming 137 00:07:36,960 --> 00:07:39,560 Speaker 1: up in a couple of weeks for Thanksgiving, and it 138 00:07:39,640 --> 00:07:41,920 Speaker 1: delves into Raging Bull just a little bit. It's more 139 00:07:41,920 --> 00:07:45,080 Speaker 1: about the band and the Last Waltz, thus the Thanksgiving angle. 140 00:07:45,680 --> 00:07:47,800 Speaker 1: But I will have more to say about Martin Scorsese 141 00:07:47,880 --> 00:07:50,760 Speaker 1: and Raging Bull in the weeks to come. Number three. Now, 142 00:07:50,760 --> 00:07:55,640 Speaker 1: this one, this one has a special special place close 143 00:07:55,680 --> 00:07:58,760 Speaker 1: to my heart right now as an adult, as an 144 00:07:58,800 --> 00:08:02,280 Speaker 1: adult man with two boys who were playing baseball, and 145 00:08:02,960 --> 00:08:06,160 Speaker 1: it had that same, a similar place next to my 146 00:08:06,240 --> 00:08:10,000 Speaker 1: heart as a young boy who played baseball. Bad News 147 00:08:10,080 --> 00:08:13,480 Speaker 1: Bears just incredible. I was actually at the ballpark last night. 148 00:08:14,120 --> 00:08:16,200 Speaker 1: I was at two ballparks last night. I was at 149 00:08:16,920 --> 00:08:20,640 Speaker 1: my son, my six year old's first playoff game. They lost. 150 00:08:21,640 --> 00:08:24,720 Speaker 1: He struck out three times. It cut me up on 151 00:08:24,760 --> 00:08:27,480 Speaker 1: the inside. Three strikeouts. Tough. He doesn't usually do that, 152 00:08:27,920 --> 00:08:30,600 Speaker 1: and I got a bone to pick with the coaches, 153 00:08:30,640 --> 00:08:32,840 Speaker 1: but that's another story. And then my ten year old, 154 00:08:33,240 --> 00:08:35,800 Speaker 1: he had a scrimmage, actually supposed to have a scrimmage, 155 00:08:35,840 --> 00:08:37,120 Speaker 1: but it ended up being practiced, so I had to 156 00:08:37,120 --> 00:08:39,160 Speaker 1: bring him over there. I had to cut out of 157 00:08:39,160 --> 00:08:41,160 Speaker 1: my six year olds game early, head over to my 158 00:08:41,160 --> 00:08:43,160 Speaker 1: ten year olds field bring him there, and I was 159 00:08:43,200 --> 00:08:46,320 Speaker 1: watching the team play. Their coach is just fucking awesome, 160 00:08:46,320 --> 00:08:49,760 Speaker 1: and he reminds me of Walter Mathow, like a modern 161 00:08:49,800 --> 00:08:52,680 Speaker 1: day version of math Walter Mathow from Bad News Bears. 162 00:08:52,679 --> 00:08:54,720 Speaker 1: He's always ripping butts in the parking lot. He's got 163 00:08:54,720 --> 00:08:56,960 Speaker 1: a really easy going way about him. But he's just 164 00:08:57,000 --> 00:09:00,360 Speaker 1: a great, great coach. Two of his kids playing on team. 165 00:09:00,679 --> 00:09:02,640 Speaker 1: And the kids on the team they're they're ten to 166 00:09:02,640 --> 00:09:05,200 Speaker 1: twelve year olds, and they have this there's this weird 167 00:09:05,240 --> 00:09:09,640 Speaker 1: age where they're they're they're pretty profane. They don't think 168 00:09:09,679 --> 00:09:13,240 Speaker 1: we're hearing what they're saying. Uh, they're just lots of 169 00:09:13,280 --> 00:09:16,160 Speaker 1: like dirty sort of locker room humor going on for 170 00:09:16,200 --> 00:09:18,000 Speaker 1: ten and twelve year olds, but they don't quite know 171 00:09:18,080 --> 00:09:19,920 Speaker 1: what they're saying. You can tell they're hearing it from 172 00:09:19,960 --> 00:09:22,880 Speaker 1: older kids. It's pretty hysterical. And they have all the 173 00:09:23,000 --> 00:09:26,360 Speaker 1: archetypes on the team that you would that you would 174 00:09:26,400 --> 00:09:28,600 Speaker 1: cast in a movie. It's hysterical. They get like the 175 00:09:28,640 --> 00:09:31,839 Speaker 1: one big kid, his name is George and he you know, 176 00:09:31,880 --> 00:09:35,200 Speaker 1: they're the Yankees, that's the team, which sucks, but that's 177 00:09:35,200 --> 00:09:38,520 Speaker 1: what they are. And he's clearly fashioning himself. He's a lefty. 178 00:09:38,559 --> 00:09:41,079 Speaker 1: He's clearly fashioning himself after Babe Ruth. He even wears 179 00:09:41,120 --> 00:09:46,719 Speaker 1: an old school button down pinstripe Yankees jersey. And they 180 00:09:46,720 --> 00:09:51,520 Speaker 1: got like the the fast talking, smart ass pitcher, the 181 00:09:51,640 --> 00:09:56,000 Speaker 1: juvenile delink wins, the two ballers. Uh, it's just they're 182 00:09:56,040 --> 00:10:01,080 Speaker 1: talking shit all the time. It's just it's amazing it's hysteric. Anyways, 183 00:10:01,120 --> 00:10:04,359 Speaker 1: Bad News Bears, great movie. Huge digression there. I apologize. 184 00:10:04,920 --> 00:10:07,360 Speaker 1: If you haven't seen Bad News Bears and you're thinking, 185 00:10:07,400 --> 00:10:09,199 Speaker 1: you haven't seen it in a while, and you've got 186 00:10:09,200 --> 00:10:12,000 Speaker 1: a young kid and you want to show it to him, don't. Okay, 187 00:10:13,080 --> 00:10:15,320 Speaker 1: we grew up in a different era. You can't show 188 00:10:15,360 --> 00:10:18,679 Speaker 1: this movie to your kid. You cannot explain the profanity, 189 00:10:18,800 --> 00:10:24,200 Speaker 1: the profanity in the inappropriate problematic language that happens in 190 00:10:24,240 --> 00:10:28,079 Speaker 1: this movie. That said, it's still a great fucking movie. 191 00:10:28,120 --> 00:10:32,439 Speaker 1: So at some point, yeah, but if your kid's you know, ten, eleven, twelve, thirteen, 192 00:10:32,520 --> 00:10:34,520 Speaker 1: I would pass, and definitely not if they're younger. Number 193 00:10:34,559 --> 00:10:41,800 Speaker 1: two on the list Rocky. Okay, Rocky, Rocky transcends sports movies. Okay. 194 00:10:41,920 --> 00:10:44,319 Speaker 1: I like to say, and I've said this for years, 195 00:10:44,360 --> 00:10:47,200 Speaker 1: even before I was in front of a microphone, that 196 00:10:47,360 --> 00:10:51,640 Speaker 1: Rocky is not only the greatest boxing movie and maybe 197 00:10:51,679 --> 00:10:54,000 Speaker 1: the greatest sports movie, but I believe it is the 198 00:10:54,000 --> 00:10:57,040 Speaker 1: greatest love story that has taken place in a movie. 199 00:10:57,360 --> 00:10:59,440 Speaker 1: And I've talked about this in the past before, it's 200 00:10:59,440 --> 00:11:01,640 Speaker 1: worth repeating. I think at the end of the movie, 201 00:11:02,080 --> 00:11:06,520 Speaker 1: when the athlete gets what he wants sort of all 202 00:11:06,600 --> 00:11:09,240 Speaker 1: he wants to do. You know, he goes through the 203 00:11:09,280 --> 00:11:11,200 Speaker 1: thing that he's you know, the goal, it's achieved, but 204 00:11:11,320 --> 00:11:13,760 Speaker 1: all he wants to do in the end, all he 205 00:11:13,880 --> 00:11:20,359 Speaker 1: wants is his Adrian. That's it. That's it, and it's beautiful. 206 00:11:20,800 --> 00:11:22,320 Speaker 1: And you know, as a kid, we grew up with 207 00:11:22,400 --> 00:11:23,920 Speaker 1: Rocky and we loved it. We were out in the yard, 208 00:11:23,960 --> 00:11:26,880 Speaker 1: We're pretending to be Apollo Creed and Thunderlips and all that. 209 00:11:27,559 --> 00:11:29,600 Speaker 1: But as an adult, when I went back to watch 210 00:11:29,679 --> 00:11:32,040 Speaker 1: the first Rocky, it just hit me like, Hey, this 211 00:11:32,080 --> 00:11:33,959 Speaker 1: isn't a sports movie. This is a love story. I 212 00:11:34,000 --> 00:11:35,360 Speaker 1: wonder if you guys agree with me on that. 213 00:11:35,600 --> 00:11:35,720 Speaker 3: Now. 214 00:11:35,840 --> 00:11:39,000 Speaker 1: Number one, it's a documentary and I wouldn't have put 215 00:11:39,040 --> 00:11:41,560 Speaker 1: it here. Okay, I would not have put this at 216 00:11:41,559 --> 00:11:44,320 Speaker 1: the number one spot, but I get why Rolling Stone 217 00:11:44,400 --> 00:11:48,120 Speaker 1: did it. Hoop Dreams. Have you seen Hoop Dreams. It's 218 00:11:48,160 --> 00:11:52,520 Speaker 1: an incredible basketball documentary, like really, really, really incredible. I 219 00:11:52,559 --> 00:11:53,960 Speaker 1: had it on a couple of weeks ago. It's on 220 00:11:53,960 --> 00:11:55,719 Speaker 1: the Criterion Channel. I'm not sure it still is, but 221 00:11:55,760 --> 00:11:57,320 Speaker 1: I just had it on playing in the background. I've 222 00:11:57,320 --> 00:12:00,160 Speaker 1: seen it a couple times before, and both my sons 223 00:12:00,200 --> 00:12:02,640 Speaker 1: got sucked into it. It's from the early nineties. It's 224 00:12:02,640 --> 00:12:04,600 Speaker 1: got a super gritty feel to it, so it's not 225 00:12:04,640 --> 00:12:06,240 Speaker 1: the type of thing that would suck in a ten 226 00:12:06,280 --> 00:12:08,400 Speaker 1: and a six year old, but it did because it 227 00:12:08,440 --> 00:12:12,080 Speaker 1: is that compelling and it's a great, great story. I 228 00:12:12,160 --> 00:12:14,360 Speaker 1: was thinking about how I would describe it to you guys, 229 00:12:14,800 --> 00:12:17,599 Speaker 1: and I realized that Rolling Stone just really nails it. 230 00:12:17,640 --> 00:12:19,640 Speaker 1: I'm going to read it verbatim from the Rolling Stone 231 00:12:19,679 --> 00:12:22,160 Speaker 1: issue here because if any of you haven't seen it, 232 00:12:22,200 --> 00:12:24,560 Speaker 1: I want to do it justice in the description so 233 00:12:24,600 --> 00:12:26,680 Speaker 1: that you do. Go and watch Hoop Dreams. Okay, this 234 00:12:26,760 --> 00:12:28,000 Speaker 1: is what they say. They got it in the number 235 00:12:28,040 --> 00:12:31,240 Speaker 1: one slot of the top thirty movies of all time, 236 00:12:31,240 --> 00:12:35,800 Speaker 1: they say. Initially inspired by its makers shared obsession with basketball, 237 00:12:35,840 --> 00:12:38,720 Speaker 1: this story of Inner City Dreams started as an idea 238 00:12:38,760 --> 00:12:42,480 Speaker 1: for a thirty minute nonfiction short about playground hoopsters. It 239 00:12:42,520 --> 00:12:45,199 Speaker 1: then evolved into a three hour odyssey about high school 240 00:12:45,280 --> 00:12:48,000 Speaker 1: kids William Gates and Arthur ag as they try to 241 00:12:48,040 --> 00:12:51,760 Speaker 1: make their way to the NBA. A landmark American documentary, 242 00:12:51,840 --> 00:12:55,240 Speaker 1: This compassionate labor of love from filmmaker Steve James, Peter 243 00:12:55,320 --> 00:12:58,720 Speaker 1: Gilbert and Frederick Marx has plenty of on court action 244 00:12:58,920 --> 00:13:02,840 Speaker 1: in suspense, It's possible no single free throw has ever 245 00:13:02,880 --> 00:13:05,000 Speaker 1: been so nerve wracking in the history of cinema. But 246 00:13:05,120 --> 00:13:08,400 Speaker 1: Hoop Dreams is even more powerful as a look at poverty, 247 00:13:08,760 --> 00:13:12,320 Speaker 1: racial inequality, and adolescents, the agonies of everyday life that 248 00:13:12,400 --> 00:13:17,840 Speaker 1: sports only occasionally help us forget. Great writing, great description, 249 00:13:18,240 --> 00:13:21,720 Speaker 1: great movie, great documentary. Go see Hoop Dreams if you haven't, 250 00:13:21,800 --> 00:13:24,319 Speaker 1: and let me know six one seven nine oh six 251 00:13:24,440 --> 00:13:28,480 Speaker 1: six six three eight at Disgrace Slam Pod, what you 252 00:13:28,600 --> 00:13:31,880 Speaker 1: think the greatest sports movie of all time is? And why? 253 00:13:32,160 --> 00:13:34,040 Speaker 1: And I know we get another Question of the Week happening. 254 00:13:34,040 --> 00:13:36,120 Speaker 1: Now we're about to get into the Ilia episode, but 255 00:13:36,160 --> 00:13:37,760 Speaker 1: I want to keep talking about this a little bit. 256 00:13:37,800 --> 00:13:39,840 Speaker 1: It will be a little, you know, a little backburner 257 00:13:40,120 --> 00:13:43,880 Speaker 1: question topic that we're dealing with. Best sports movie. Hit 258 00:13:43,880 --> 00:13:46,160 Speaker 1: me up and let me know, all right, As promised 259 00:13:46,200 --> 00:13:47,800 Speaker 1: every week, going to give you guys a little bit 260 00:13:47,840 --> 00:13:51,240 Speaker 1: of a Diddy update here. This past Monday, with Sean Combs' 261 00:13:51,520 --> 00:13:54,160 Speaker 1: fifty fifth birthday, he spent it in jail. Of course, 262 00:13:54,679 --> 00:13:57,320 Speaker 1: his kids shared a video singing Happy Birthday to him 263 00:13:57,360 --> 00:13:59,160 Speaker 1: over the phone. You can hear him on the other 264 00:13:59,240 --> 00:14:01,440 Speaker 1: end saying that he them, that he's proud of them, 265 00:14:01,520 --> 00:14:05,120 Speaker 1: that he's thanking them for their support. And a part 266 00:14:05,120 --> 00:14:08,400 Speaker 1: of me right now feels a little bit bad because 267 00:14:08,440 --> 00:14:10,600 Speaker 1: I can hear the cynicism in my voice when I'm 268 00:14:10,640 --> 00:14:13,360 Speaker 1: depicting what Diddy was saying. And that is because I 269 00:14:13,400 --> 00:14:15,880 Speaker 1: think that there are a few characters in the history 270 00:14:15,880 --> 00:14:18,760 Speaker 1: of the music industry, the entertainment industry who are more 271 00:14:18,920 --> 00:14:22,200 Speaker 1: full of shit than Sean Combs. Okay, I've been researching 272 00:14:22,240 --> 00:14:24,360 Speaker 1: this guy pretty heavily now for the last two weeks 273 00:14:24,360 --> 00:14:25,720 Speaker 1: for this episode that I'm going to bring you in 274 00:14:25,800 --> 00:14:30,280 Speaker 1: early January, and the guy is disgusting to me. Everything 275 00:14:30,360 --> 00:14:33,800 Speaker 1: about him is a fucking lie, I believe, and I 276 00:14:33,880 --> 00:14:35,960 Speaker 1: believe that he is not going to get away with 277 00:14:37,600 --> 00:14:40,160 Speaker 1: even a portion of what he's been accused of. It's 278 00:14:40,240 --> 00:14:44,840 Speaker 1: hard for me to take Sean Dittycomb's at his word, 279 00:14:45,000 --> 00:14:49,680 Speaker 1: even when he's expressing kindness and warmth towards his children, 280 00:14:50,680 --> 00:14:53,080 Speaker 1: based on what he's been accused of, and based on 281 00:14:53,120 --> 00:14:55,920 Speaker 1: the research that I've been doing over the last few weeks. Okay, 282 00:14:57,200 --> 00:14:59,560 Speaker 1: there's a witness for this is news. There's a witness 283 00:14:59,600 --> 00:15:01,960 Speaker 1: who's come out recently in his stating that he has 284 00:15:02,240 --> 00:15:05,360 Speaker 1: tapes that will shock all of us. Now, this is different. Now, 285 00:15:05,360 --> 00:15:09,800 Speaker 1: we've heard from we've heard from federal prosecutors, we've heard 286 00:15:09,800 --> 00:15:14,280 Speaker 1: from Tony Busby, we've heard from attorneys about these tapes. 287 00:15:14,400 --> 00:15:17,160 Speaker 1: This is now a witness who has come out recently 288 00:15:17,200 --> 00:15:19,440 Speaker 1: again and is stating that he has tapes that will 289 00:15:19,480 --> 00:15:21,440 Speaker 1: shock all of us. The tapes in question that this 290 00:15:21,560 --> 00:15:26,000 Speaker 1: witness alleges show, did he having sex with two miners 291 00:15:26,160 --> 00:15:33,400 Speaker 1: who are celebrities? Okay, two underage boys. Now we can 292 00:15:33,400 --> 00:15:37,160 Speaker 1: all speculate on who that might be. But to me, 293 00:15:37,320 --> 00:15:39,560 Speaker 1: the actual news here is that this came out during 294 00:15:39,560 --> 00:15:43,640 Speaker 1: the witness's recent grand jury testimony recent okay, not the 295 00:15:43,640 --> 00:15:46,560 Speaker 1: grand jury testimony that led to the federal indictment recent 296 00:15:47,120 --> 00:15:49,760 Speaker 1: And when that news came out Seawan Colmbs is the 297 00:15:49,800 --> 00:15:54,120 Speaker 1: legal team, they moved quick, very quickly on Sunday, actually 298 00:15:54,120 --> 00:15:56,760 Speaker 1: over the weekend, no less, and file the gag order 299 00:15:56,880 --> 00:16:02,400 Speaker 1: against this witness and against all potential witnesses. They move again, 300 00:16:02,440 --> 00:16:05,040 Speaker 1: they move very quickly, and they filed that gag order 301 00:16:05,120 --> 00:16:09,680 Speaker 1: on a Sunday, so they're very motivated. They could be 302 00:16:09,720 --> 00:16:13,440 Speaker 1: afraid of something. What are they afraid of is the question. Well, 303 00:16:13,520 --> 00:16:16,560 Speaker 1: could be that they're afraid of what this witness obviously 304 00:16:16,640 --> 00:16:19,400 Speaker 1: has to say, but it could also be that they're 305 00:16:19,400 --> 00:16:23,640 Speaker 1: afraid that the witness, you know, if he's lying, if 306 00:16:23,640 --> 00:16:27,520 Speaker 1: he's making this up, that he could, if what he's 307 00:16:27,560 --> 00:16:32,280 Speaker 1: going to say becomes public, potentially poison the potential jury 308 00:16:32,320 --> 00:16:35,760 Speaker 1: pool for the trial that's coming up supposedly in May. 309 00:16:36,160 --> 00:16:41,320 Speaker 1: So the prosecutors, of course, have objected to this gag order. 310 00:16:41,680 --> 00:16:43,600 Speaker 1: No word on what the judge is going to say. 311 00:16:43,600 --> 00:16:45,080 Speaker 1: I think we're going to hear this week from the 312 00:16:45,160 --> 00:16:47,000 Speaker 1: judge on this, and I'll let you know as soon 313 00:16:47,040 --> 00:16:48,400 Speaker 1: as I know, or at least i'll let you know 314 00:16:48,440 --> 00:16:51,600 Speaker 1: in the next episode of the After Party here. But 315 00:16:51,720 --> 00:16:54,040 Speaker 1: what we do know, and again this is news. The 316 00:16:54,080 --> 00:16:57,920 Speaker 1: federal grand jury is hearing new evidence in this case 317 00:16:58,240 --> 00:17:02,920 Speaker 1: this week, which means that the current federal indictment could 318 00:17:02,960 --> 00:17:06,640 Speaker 1: result in a superseding indictment, which could mean more charges 319 00:17:06,720 --> 00:17:09,399 Speaker 1: against Sean Combs, and that will likely mean that the 320 00:17:09,400 --> 00:17:13,120 Speaker 1: May fifth trial date will be delayed. Now also related 321 00:17:13,160 --> 00:17:15,480 Speaker 1: to Diddy, as promised, I'm not going to eat up 322 00:17:15,600 --> 00:17:18,040 Speaker 1: this whole episode with Diddy News. But I do have 323 00:17:18,480 --> 00:17:21,960 Speaker 1: some first hand anecdotal news on Kevin Hart relative to 324 00:17:22,040 --> 00:17:23,680 Speaker 1: Sean Coles, which I'm going to talk about in the 325 00:17:23,720 --> 00:17:26,560 Speaker 1: all access portion of this episode. I'll be right back. 326 00:17:26,440 --> 00:17:43,879 Speaker 2: After this with your voicemails and your texts. 327 00:17:47,400 --> 00:17:49,359 Speaker 1: All right, we are back six one seven nine oh 328 00:17:49,440 --> 00:17:51,560 Speaker 1: six six six three eight. The question of the week 329 00:17:51,680 --> 00:17:54,760 Speaker 1: this week was what is the greatest sports town in 330 00:17:54,800 --> 00:17:57,280 Speaker 1: America or anywhere for that matter. Let me know what 331 00:17:57,320 --> 00:17:59,000 Speaker 1: we'll want to hear now from the four to four 332 00:17:59,040 --> 00:17:59,640 Speaker 1: to zero. 333 00:17:59,440 --> 00:17:59,920 Speaker 3: On this. 334 00:18:01,400 --> 00:18:04,720 Speaker 4: Hi Jake, my name is Jefferson. I'm a pretty new listener. 335 00:18:05,680 --> 00:18:08,400 Speaker 4: I live in the two one six currently, I'm originally 336 00:18:08,440 --> 00:18:11,399 Speaker 4: from the five to one three, and I just listened 337 00:18:11,440 --> 00:18:14,720 Speaker 4: to the episode about the eighty six Mets, which, as 338 00:18:14,760 --> 00:18:18,680 Speaker 4: a man of a certain age, I was a huge 339 00:18:18,720 --> 00:18:22,200 Speaker 4: fan of the eighty six Mets and eighty six World 340 00:18:22,240 --> 00:18:24,520 Speaker 4: Series is, with without a doubt, one of my favorite 341 00:18:24,520 --> 00:18:28,040 Speaker 4: world series that I've ever had the opportunity to watch. 342 00:18:29,160 --> 00:18:31,879 Speaker 4: I am a died in the wool Reds fan, and 343 00:18:31,920 --> 00:18:35,600 Speaker 4: I cannot argue that Cincinnati is the best sports town, 344 00:18:36,280 --> 00:18:38,959 Speaker 4: but I do want to make a case that Opening 345 00:18:39,080 --> 00:18:43,600 Speaker 4: Day in Cincinnati is very different than Opening Day in 346 00:18:43,640 --> 00:18:45,880 Speaker 4: a lot of other cities. It's just a very very 347 00:18:46,480 --> 00:18:50,119 Speaker 4: special day. And I know we've had our share of 348 00:18:50,160 --> 00:18:53,680 Speaker 4: success in Cincinnati. We are a small market team. We've 349 00:18:53,680 --> 00:18:57,320 Speaker 4: also had our share of disgraces there as well. There 350 00:18:57,400 --> 00:19:00,040 Speaker 4: might be some fodder there for some future episodes, but 351 00:19:00,160 --> 00:19:02,959 Speaker 4: I would love to hear you you take on. But 352 00:19:03,960 --> 00:19:06,840 Speaker 4: either way, you know, again, I don't want to make 353 00:19:06,880 --> 00:19:09,720 Speaker 4: a case that we're the best sports city. But Opening 354 00:19:09,840 --> 00:19:14,280 Speaker 4: Day in Cincinnati is just head and shoulders above opening 355 00:19:14,359 --> 00:19:17,240 Speaker 4: Day anywhere else in Major League Baseball. If you ever 356 00:19:17,280 --> 00:19:19,840 Speaker 4: have the chance to check it out, you should. It's 357 00:19:19,920 --> 00:19:24,399 Speaker 4: just a great all day celebration, citywide celebration. Keep up 358 00:19:24,400 --> 00:19:27,240 Speaker 4: the good work. Love listening to the show Rock and 359 00:19:27,320 --> 00:19:30,160 Speaker 4: Roller four four to rozero out in Cincinnati. 360 00:19:31,400 --> 00:19:34,199 Speaker 1: This is really interesting to me because we think of 361 00:19:34,200 --> 00:19:37,560 Speaker 1: Boston as a small sports as a small town, Okay, 362 00:19:37,600 --> 00:19:41,280 Speaker 1: but it's obviously it's not. It's one of the world class. 363 00:19:41,359 --> 00:19:44,120 Speaker 1: It's a world class city. It really is, even though 364 00:19:44,160 --> 00:19:47,320 Speaker 1: it's small geographically and you know, there's not that many 365 00:19:47,359 --> 00:19:49,080 Speaker 1: people there relatives to New York City. But when you 366 00:19:49,080 --> 00:19:52,000 Speaker 1: talk about a place like Cincinnati, I get it and 367 00:19:52,920 --> 00:19:54,600 Speaker 1: in a way, I hear what you're saying, and I'm 368 00:19:54,720 --> 00:19:58,440 Speaker 1: envious of you because the Red Sox have become so mammoth. 369 00:19:59,080 --> 00:20:02,879 Speaker 1: The brand, the whole experience has become so huge in 370 00:20:02,920 --> 00:20:05,640 Speaker 1: the last two and a half decades, since the new 371 00:20:05,640 --> 00:20:07,920 Speaker 1: ownership took over, and since we won the World Series 372 00:20:07,960 --> 00:20:11,320 Speaker 1: in four that it's taken on, it's kind of lost 373 00:20:11,400 --> 00:20:17,600 Speaker 1: a lot of its small town appeal, small town, small ballparks, 374 00:20:17,640 --> 00:20:19,560 Speaker 1: small You know, we're not the New York Yankees. We 375 00:20:19,640 --> 00:20:21,680 Speaker 1: used to think of ourselves like that, like an underdog, 376 00:20:22,040 --> 00:20:24,120 Speaker 1: and we don't anymore. And Opening Day to me, used 377 00:20:24,160 --> 00:20:26,240 Speaker 1: to mean something different than it does now. To your point, 378 00:20:26,280 --> 00:20:28,840 Speaker 1: So I can't. I don't know exactly what you're talking about, 379 00:20:28,880 --> 00:20:30,840 Speaker 1: but I can. I can sense it in your in 380 00:20:30,880 --> 00:20:33,520 Speaker 1: your voicemail. I can, I can. I can understand that 381 00:20:33,880 --> 00:20:36,160 Speaker 1: there's a specialness to it that we don't quite get 382 00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:38,000 Speaker 1: in the bigger market. So, like I said, in a way, 383 00:20:38,040 --> 00:20:40,240 Speaker 1: I'm kind of envious of that. Good, good voicemail. Thank 384 00:20:40,240 --> 00:20:42,480 Speaker 1: you for calling in. All right, let's hear this voicemail 385 00:20:42,520 --> 00:20:43,639 Speaker 1: from the six to one to nine. 386 00:20:44,280 --> 00:20:46,920 Speaker 5: Hey, Dake, this is done in the six' one nine 387 00:20:47,080 --> 00:20:51,399 Speaker 5: formerly of the seven seventy three. I think Chicago is 388 00:20:51,440 --> 00:20:53,920 Speaker 5: the greatest sports city in the world. If you look 389 00:20:53,960 --> 00:20:57,199 Speaker 5: at all the history of all their teams, it's just 390 00:20:57,280 --> 00:21:00,200 Speaker 5: hard to argue with that. I lived in Chicago during 391 00:21:00,359 --> 00:21:03,840 Speaker 5: when the Cubs won the World Series after their long curse, 392 00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:07,320 Speaker 5: and it was one of the most incredible nights ever. 393 00:21:07,640 --> 00:21:10,399 Speaker 5: I mean, the whole city roared when they won. But 394 00:21:10,560 --> 00:21:13,040 Speaker 5: they have so many great teams and such a long 395 00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:15,960 Speaker 5: history of all their teams that I think that they're 396 00:21:15,960 --> 00:21:18,680 Speaker 5: the best. Thanks Car all you do. It's a great show. 397 00:21:18,720 --> 00:21:19,760 Speaker 5: I enjoy listening. 398 00:21:20,160 --> 00:21:25,919 Speaker 1: Thanks bye, Okay. Chicago, great Sportstown, great music town, just 399 00:21:26,080 --> 00:21:28,520 Speaker 1: great city. One of my favorite cities on the planet. 400 00:21:28,640 --> 00:21:32,359 Speaker 1: I love it. Chicago's unlike anywhere else in the world really, 401 00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:36,520 Speaker 1: you know. And it's yeah, I know Boston is as well, 402 00:21:36,560 --> 00:21:39,879 Speaker 1: but there's just something that's there's a bigness, there's a bravado, 403 00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:42,359 Speaker 1: there's a there's a thing about Chicago that I just 404 00:21:42,520 --> 00:21:45,240 Speaker 1: absolutely love. And as a kid who grew up in 405 00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:49,199 Speaker 1: the eighties, Michael Jordan, my god, I'll just you know, 406 00:21:49,280 --> 00:21:53,080 Speaker 1: for that alone, for Jordan alone, you've got to call 407 00:21:53,160 --> 00:21:56,439 Speaker 1: Chicago a great sports town. Greatest basketball player of all time, 408 00:21:57,720 --> 00:22:02,159 Speaker 1: you know, just tremendous, tremendous team, the Chicago Bulls, and 409 00:22:02,240 --> 00:22:04,439 Speaker 1: I was happy to see the Cubs when they want it. 410 00:22:04,920 --> 00:22:07,280 Speaker 1: You know, I begrudgingly not beggretgially. You know I can 411 00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:10,119 Speaker 1: get with the Bears somewhat, you know, growing up in 412 00:22:10,119 --> 00:22:13,080 Speaker 1: the eighties, right eighty six Bears. Thanks for the call. 413 00:22:13,640 --> 00:22:14,880 Speaker 1: All right, let's hear from the four four. 414 00:22:14,920 --> 00:22:19,560 Speaker 3: Oh hey Jakes, my name is Samantha. I've been a 415 00:22:19,720 --> 00:22:24,680 Speaker 3: very long time listener, like Jerry Lee Lewis episode. Yeah, 416 00:22:24,840 --> 00:22:28,560 Speaker 3: I was responding to the sports team one whenever saun disease. 417 00:22:29,520 --> 00:22:34,800 Speaker 3: But I am in Cleveland, and I got to give 418 00:22:35,080 --> 00:22:41,080 Speaker 3: my CD credit. We are committed to our sports teams, 419 00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:45,159 Speaker 3: regardless of how many times they lose, how bad they are, 420 00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:48,960 Speaker 3: how many quarterbacks we get rid of, how many great 421 00:22:49,040 --> 00:22:51,840 Speaker 3: a baseball teams we trade away after we don't win 422 00:22:51,880 --> 00:22:55,840 Speaker 3: the World Series. We are mistakes on the lake. But 423 00:22:57,200 --> 00:23:01,800 Speaker 3: I think that is a good example of a team 424 00:23:01,840 --> 00:23:07,800 Speaker 3: who will stand behind there the sports team anyway, the 425 00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:10,560 Speaker 3: one is probably not it, but I agree that I'd 426 00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:12,760 Speaker 3: contribute because I am proud of us. 427 00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:16,560 Speaker 1: Hey, Samantha out there in Cleveland, I got a lot 428 00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:19,439 Speaker 1: of respect for Cleveland fans. I really do similar to 429 00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:23,479 Speaker 1: Buffalo and Detroit in a lot of ways. You know 430 00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:27,320 Speaker 1: it's gonna happen, and honestly, you don't know what you 431 00:23:27,359 --> 00:23:31,679 Speaker 1: have right now. It's it's there's something galvanizing about being 432 00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:34,600 Speaker 1: the underdog, and uh, I think Cleveland's gonna pull it 433 00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:36,760 Speaker 1: together one way or another at some point, and you're 434 00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:39,600 Speaker 1: gonna be incredibly gratified when it happens. Thanks for the 435 00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:42,200 Speaker 1: call six one seven nine oh six six six three 436 00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:45,199 Speaker 1: eight to leave me a voicemail. Got another one from 437 00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:48,480 Speaker 1: Chicago here the four row two. Damn Chicago showing up. 438 00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:52,399 Speaker 1: Best sports city is Chicago. Folk show the Cubs, the Socks, 439 00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:55,080 Speaker 1: the Bulls, the Blackhawks, the Bears may not have the 440 00:23:55,080 --> 00:23:57,920 Speaker 1: best records, but their fan base, except for the Socks, 441 00:23:58,240 --> 00:24:01,680 Speaker 1: they make the games in the city electric. And as 442 00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:04,360 Speaker 1: a life long Cubs fan, I will wait until next 443 00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:07,000 Speaker 1: year and we will have another World Series winning my lifetime. 444 00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:08,680 Speaker 1: I like to think that the Chicago Cubs can have 445 00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:11,080 Speaker 1: two baseball teams, of Boston can have two baseball teams. 446 00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:15,040 Speaker 1: I really want the Expos franchise to be come back 447 00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:18,359 Speaker 1: to life in Boston as a national League team, you know, 448 00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:21,160 Speaker 1: just as Chicago has the White Sox and the Cubs 449 00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:23,520 Speaker 1: and of course the Yankees and of course the Mets. 450 00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:29,800 Speaker 1: I think the Boston market could sustain to Boston sports franchises. 451 00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:33,639 Speaker 1: Of course, the Henry ownership would never allow it, but 452 00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:36,919 Speaker 1: you know, I'm kind of jealous of Chicago. Six to one, 453 00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:38,800 Speaker 1: oh Rights, and hey, I love this Graceland and I 454 00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:41,399 Speaker 1: want to suggest an episode that you can do on Ditty. 455 00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:43,480 Speaker 1: Do another episode because a lot of stuff has happened 456 00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:46,720 Speaker 1: with Diddy since the last Ditty episode. Yes, that's true, 457 00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:48,199 Speaker 1: and you will be happy to know six to one 458 00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:51,160 Speaker 1: to oh that I am researching the next Didty episode 459 00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:52,840 Speaker 1: right now. I've been on it for the last week 460 00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:55,080 Speaker 1: and a half. I'll finish research this week. I will 461 00:24:55,080 --> 00:24:59,719 Speaker 1: write it next week and it will be sound designed, mixed, 462 00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:05,000 Speaker 1: and released the first week of January. And it's gonna 463 00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:09,240 Speaker 1: cover It's gonna be pretty much about the Cassie everything 464 00:25:09,320 --> 00:25:12,880 Speaker 1: from the Cassie accusation, uh to the indictment, and I'm 465 00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:15,040 Speaker 1: gonna cover everything in between there. I'm gonna try to 466 00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:17,399 Speaker 1: in thirty minutes. We shall see, and then there'll be 467 00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:19,880 Speaker 1: a couple more Diddy episodes throughout next year. Hey, Jake, 468 00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:22,679 Speaker 1: it's Christa Kay from the seven two four aka the 469 00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:25,800 Speaker 1: Suburbs of the Best Sports Town, Pittsburgh. In total, we 470 00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:28,679 Speaker 1: have six Super Bowl wins, five Stanley Cup wins, in 471 00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:32,040 Speaker 1: five World Series wins. Holy shit, the Pirates have five 472 00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:34,280 Speaker 1: World Series wins, not to mention some of the most 473 00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:38,280 Speaker 1: iconic names in sports history, Roberto Clemente, Mario Lemieux, Franco 474 00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:41,000 Speaker 1: Harris just to name a few. Oh, you can't forget 475 00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:45,480 Speaker 1: to mention the terrible towel that is literally everywhere Pittsburgh wins. Jake, 476 00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:49,280 Speaker 1: it's what we do. You know what, Christy Kay can't. 477 00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:52,639 Speaker 1: I can't argue with you there. Pittsburgh's hard to fuck with. 478 00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:56,439 Speaker 1: They really, truly are. Steelers are always good. Even when 479 00:25:56,440 --> 00:25:59,280 Speaker 1: they're bad, they're still scary. They always kind of pull together, 480 00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:02,239 Speaker 1: so they always have some sort of team. And you 481 00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:04,639 Speaker 1: can't fuck with six Super Bowl wins. I'm shocked to 482 00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:07,359 Speaker 1: see that the Pirates have five World Series wins. I 483 00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:10,359 Speaker 1: did not know that. That is just crazy to me. 484 00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:12,920 Speaker 1: Of course, the Stanley Cup wins, I knew about that. 485 00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:16,640 Speaker 1: And what's remarkable here which you have not mentioned, Chris 486 00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:18,679 Speaker 1: to Ka is at Pittsburgh is not big. It is 487 00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:21,520 Speaker 1: a small city and have that kind of winning legacy. 488 00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:23,720 Speaker 1: You got something going for yourselves over there, So props 489 00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:27,159 Speaker 1: to Pittsburgh from a Bostonian. Six one seven nine oh 490 00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:32,200 Speaker 1: six six six three eight at Disgracelam pod for some dms, guys, 491 00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:34,680 Speaker 1: we got a book club coming up. We haven't picked 492 00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:36,360 Speaker 1: a date. It's going to be in December. We need 493 00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:41,280 Speaker 1: some sort of true crimey entertainmenty Christmas book. I don't 494 00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:43,040 Speaker 1: know you got any recommendations. I want to hear about 495 00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:44,919 Speaker 1: that too, at the Graceland Pod six one seven nine 496 00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:47,360 Speaker 1: o six six six three eight. A lot of love 497 00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:50,720 Speaker 1: for the Mets episode on the Socials at the Gracelamp 498 00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:53,640 Speaker 1: pod on Instagram. Jay Smidty seven five seven writing may 499 00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:57,879 Speaker 1: have passed George Harrison as my favorite episode. How the 500 00:26:57,960 --> 00:27:00,800 Speaker 1: Mets pass a Beatle? I don't know beatles played at 501 00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:03,240 Speaker 1: shay Okay, So there's that, Jay Smith. He goes on 502 00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:06,520 Speaker 1: to write, need the Pittsburgh Drug Trial sequel episode now, 503 00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:12,080 Speaker 1: oh Man. As always, thanks to the engagement, guys, I'm 504 00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:13,959 Speaker 1: gonna take a quick break, be back in a flash 505 00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:32,600 Speaker 1: with your emails and some reviews. All right, guys. Disgrace 506 00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:35,320 Speaker 1: slam pod at gmail dot com is where you email 507 00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:37,640 Speaker 1: me and right on cue. We get this one from 508 00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:43,320 Speaker 1: Liliana Lira, who writes in book rex for December. Hi, 509 00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:45,680 Speaker 1: I was just listening to the bonus episode where you 510 00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:48,440 Speaker 1: were looking for book recommendations for December. You should read 511 00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:52,480 Speaker 1: what the hell nos for a two? But it's not 512 00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:55,000 Speaker 1: spelled like nos fara tuo oh nos n Os four 513 00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:57,879 Speaker 1: A two by Joe Hill. Joe Hill, I believe this 514 00:27:57,920 --> 00:28:01,280 Speaker 1: is me talking now? Is Stephen kings one? Leana goes 515 00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:04,160 Speaker 1: on to say it's a Christmas y and has criminal 516 00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:06,679 Speaker 1: subject matter. Also, yep, here we go Joe Hill as 517 00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:09,400 Speaker 1: Tabitha and Stephen Kingk's son. That's gonna be worth reading, right, 518 00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:12,320 Speaker 1: If not Stephen Kingk's Doctors Sleep is also a good 519 00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:15,200 Speaker 1: great podcast. All right, Liliana, I'll take your recommendation. I'll 520 00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:17,840 Speaker 1: bring it back to the discos in the chat on 521 00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:21,720 Speaker 1: Patreon see what they think of Nos Faratu Nos four 522 00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:25,680 Speaker 1: A two. Disgrace sampod at gmail dot com. Guys, hit 523 00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:29,560 Speaker 1: me up, all right. Get this one from Michael lane Heath, 524 00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:32,920 Speaker 1: who writes in about the Cramps episode. Hey, Hey, Jake 525 00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:35,199 Speaker 1: loving the Cramps episode of Disgraceland as one of the 526 00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:38,480 Speaker 1: actually more than ten fans in Washington. D c DC 527 00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:41,200 Speaker 1: was actually for a time the Cramp's second home outside 528 00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:43,479 Speaker 1: of New York City in the late seventies. We'll never 529 00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:45,480 Speaker 1: forget them playing at a place called Psycadelli in the 530 00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:48,720 Speaker 1: suburb of Bethesda, Maryland, literally a deli at the front 531 00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:50,320 Speaker 1: of the club and in the back they were playing. 532 00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:52,880 Speaker 1: They were connected with the local band the Sickie Boys 533 00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:56,520 Speaker 1: excuse me, the Slicky Boys, who's guitarist Kim Kaine was 534 00:28:56,560 --> 00:28:59,480 Speaker 1: once approached to be second guitarists for them after Kid 535 00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:02,520 Speaker 1: Congo left and we all ended up at the Classic 536 00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:05,280 Speaker 1: Diner nearby, complete with those mini juke boxes in the boots. 537 00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:08,000 Speaker 1: We all sat up drinking coffee, eating pie, talking about 538 00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:10,800 Speaker 1: old rock and roll records into the dawn. And they, 539 00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:14,240 Speaker 1: of course also were the equivalent to the Pistols in Manchester. 540 00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:16,400 Speaker 1: On February seventy nine when they played a benefit for 541 00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:21,080 Speaker 1: the Georgetown University FM freeform station WGTB, all of the 542 00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:23,280 Speaker 1: folks that were part of the Discord scene were there 543 00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:27,320 Speaker 1: and had their asses set afire. Only sorry you forgot 544 00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:30,040 Speaker 1: to mention the presence of Miriam Lena in her part 545 00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:33,120 Speaker 1: as drummer by the way, Pam and Nick Knox, ruler 546 00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:37,040 Speaker 1: of the Norton Records Empire. Everything else, however, chef's kiss, sir, 547 00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:40,560 Speaker 1: thank you, mL Heath, San Francisco, ps. Is that theme 548 00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:43,600 Speaker 1: music yours? I dig yes, mL Heath, the theme music 549 00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:46,960 Speaker 1: is ours. I wrote that we recorded it with some friends, 550 00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:49,880 Speaker 1: broke into a studio at night, you know, made it 551 00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:54,640 Speaker 1: happen punk rock style. Thanks for the email. I was 552 00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:57,440 Speaker 1: aware of the DC connection to the Cramps, and if 553 00:29:58,040 --> 00:30:01,200 Speaker 1: you noticed, there was a little mentioned it. I do 554 00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:04,840 Speaker 1: believe I say DC Summers. I said something. I think 555 00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:06,520 Speaker 1: I said basement or something like that. And that's because 556 00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:09,080 Speaker 1: I was reading a recount recounting of a show by 557 00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:11,360 Speaker 1: Henry Rollins that he had seen when he was a kid, 558 00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:13,360 Speaker 1: and it might be the show that you're referencing here 559 00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:17,840 Speaker 1: from February nineteen seventy nine. I do mention Nick Knox, 560 00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:21,360 Speaker 1: and I do mention I believe I mentioned Pam. I 561 00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:26,000 Speaker 1: did not mention Miriam. Couldn't get to everybody just didn't 562 00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:29,320 Speaker 1: fit into the storytelling. But you know what, I You're right. 563 00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:30,720 Speaker 1: I should have mentioned them. I should have found a 564 00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:32,920 Speaker 1: way to do it. But this is so much info. Man, 565 00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:36,360 Speaker 1: Sometimes you just gotta keep following the protagonist, if you 566 00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:39,680 Speaker 1: know what I mean. All right, Disgrace lampod at gmail 567 00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:41,640 Speaker 1: dot com. Guys, hit me up, leave us a review 568 00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:44,400 Speaker 1: if you feel and so inclined. As you know, we 569 00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:47,240 Speaker 1: read the reviews here on the show. Reviews help with 570 00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:50,120 Speaker 1: the discovery of the show, so you know, I'm not 571 00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:52,680 Speaker 1: a shame to ask for a little review age, and 572 00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:54,560 Speaker 1: in exchange for that, if we read one of your 573 00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:56,360 Speaker 1: reviews here, as you know, you get some free merch. 574 00:30:56,480 --> 00:30:59,840 Speaker 1: This one comes from Cosmic fond seventy seven, who writes 575 00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:03,520 Speaker 1: for the Weirdos, Misfits and Freaks. Disgraceland fell into my 576 00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:05,240 Speaker 1: lap on a random search and the first one I 577 00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:08,120 Speaker 1: listened to is the Black Sabbath episode. Hearing the infamous 578 00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:11,120 Speaker 1: batstory another ancient musical lore that I've already heard my 579 00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:13,720 Speaker 1: whole life told in a way that only Jay can 580 00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:16,080 Speaker 1: makes it feel like I am getting an exclusive listen 581 00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:18,760 Speaker 1: to these stories for the first time ever. Thank you, 582 00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:21,600 Speaker 1: Jake for making my days, driving my small army of 583 00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:25,720 Speaker 1: humans around feel cool. Still you got it, Cosmic Fawn 584 00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:28,800 Speaker 1: love that hit me up Disgrace Lampod at gmail dot com, 585 00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:31,240 Speaker 1: or you can hit me up at Disgrace Lampod on 586 00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:33,200 Speaker 1: the socials and we'll get some free merch out to you. 587 00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:36,440 Speaker 1: Laurie Mets on Spotify rites in how do I not 588 00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:39,600 Speaker 1: see these comments? I don't know, Laurie, I'm seeing them, 589 00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:43,960 Speaker 1: h Laurie. I don't know if that's worthy of any merch, 590 00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:45,280 Speaker 1: but it was the first one I read when I 591 00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:48,800 Speaker 1: pulled up in the Spotify app here. Ben Reynolds writes 592 00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:51,720 Speaker 1: in on Spotify dipping his little vic firth as a drummer. 593 00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:55,320 Speaker 1: This one made me giggle. Reminds me of one of 594 00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:59,040 Speaker 1: the more lassivy less I can't say this word, lasciviously 595 00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:04,040 Speaker 1: named drum rudimentar. Dude, fucking Ben. I don't know what 596 00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:08,840 Speaker 1: you're talking about here, paradiddle diddle, but Ben, I appreciate 597 00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:11,400 Speaker 1: the effort. Get in touch at disgrace Landpod will hook 598 00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:13,360 Speaker 1: you up with some merch guys. Leave a review on 599 00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:16,640 Speaker 1: Spotify or Apple podcast. Like I said, it really helps 600 00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:19,640 Speaker 1: out with the show. We appreciate it. This episode is 601 00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:23,680 Speaker 1: nearing its end, but the after party, as you know it, 602 00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:26,480 Speaker 1: keeps going for the all Access members. Okay, just go 603 00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:30,120 Speaker 1: to disgrace landpod dot com slash membership and you can 604 00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:31,920 Speaker 1: become a member. You can support the show that way 605 00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:33,680 Speaker 1: as well. You're gonna get a little bit extra here 606 00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:36,600 Speaker 1: in the after party, get a little more all access content. 607 00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:38,560 Speaker 1: You're gonna get ad free listening, and get a free 608 00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:41,880 Speaker 1: episode per month. All right, disgracelandpod dot com slash membership. 609 00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:58,720 Speaker 1: I'll be back in a flash. All right, I am back. 610 00:32:58,760 --> 00:33:01,280 Speaker 1: Thank you for joining me on this after party bonus 611 00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:04,360 Speaker 1: episode of Disgraceland. We spend a lot of time in 612 00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:06,720 Speaker 1: Queens this week with the eighty six Mets. We get 613 00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:09,200 Speaker 1: some Queens episodes in our archive that I want to 614 00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:12,680 Speaker 1: point you toward. Of course, the Ramones that's episode number 615 00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:16,800 Speaker 1: seventy two, released on February sixteenth, twenty twenty one. Go 616 00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:21,080 Speaker 1: check that one out. The run DMC episode also set 617 00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:24,000 Speaker 1: in Queens, that is episode number fifty five, released on 618 00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:30,560 Speaker 1: April fourteenth, twenty twenty and of course fifty cent episode 619 00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:35,120 Speaker 1: one hundred and seventeen, released on February fourteenth, two thousand 620 00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:38,040 Speaker 1: twenty three. Those are three Queens episodes. I'm sure we 621 00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:40,080 Speaker 1: have a couple others that I can't remember at this point. 622 00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:41,880 Speaker 1: Always check those out if you want, if you haven't 623 00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:44,240 Speaker 1: heard them, they're in there. Fifty cent one one of 624 00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:46,000 Speaker 1: my I never think of this one, but it's just 625 00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:49,280 Speaker 1: awesome episode. Love it all right. I got to get 626 00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:51,760 Speaker 1: out of here. So let's recap number one right now 627 00:33:51,800 --> 00:33:55,080 Speaker 1: in your feed. Our episode on the nineteen eighty six 628 00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:58,040 Speaker 1: Mets number two coming tomorrow, a special rewind episode from 629 00:33:58,040 --> 00:34:00,320 Speaker 1: our archive, and we are talking about a Lee and 630 00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:02,520 Speaker 1: next week's episode. So I want to know what are 631 00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:05,320 Speaker 1: your favorite female R and B singers, And of course 632 00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:08,160 Speaker 1: we'll talk more about sports movies. I can't help myself. 633 00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:10,160 Speaker 1: Number three merch winners, get in touch. You know who 634 00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:12,239 Speaker 1: you are. A number four remember, no one cares about 635 00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:15,200 Speaker 1: great storytelling more than you do, and well that's a disgrace. 636 00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:18,520 Speaker 1: And also this week in particular, love your neighbor. Okay, 637 00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:20,520 Speaker 1: your neighbor is not the enemy. They just might not 638 00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:23,680 Speaker 1: agree with you. And that's all right, grace, patient's peace, 639 00:34:23,680 --> 00:34:26,000 Speaker 1: love and understanding, all right. In honor of this week's 640 00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:29,799 Speaker 1: episode subject on the eighty six Mets Me Ready to You. 641 00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:35,360 Speaker 1: The Billboard charts from October twenty sixth, nineteen eighty six 642 00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:41,200 Speaker 1: number one. Dancing on the Ceiling Lionel Richie last week one, 643 00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:47,239 Speaker 1: peak position one weeks on chart six, number two Top 644 00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:53,359 Speaker 1: Gun Soundtrack last week two, peak position one weeks on 645 00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:59,879 Speaker 1: Chart Eighteens Number three, Raising Hell Run DMCs Queens, New York, 646 00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:04,279 Speaker 1: last week position three four, peak position three weeks on 647 00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:08,799 Speaker 1: six seventeen, position number four, week four last by here 648 00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:12,000 Speaker 1: you listened the news last week for six weeks. The 649 00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:22,000 Speaker 1: peak position last weeks on number five s TR six 650 00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:32,880 Speaker 1: S Quit talking and start mixing.