Speaker 1: Still the Place with Laura Layton, Courtney Thorn Smith.
Speaker 2: And Daphne's Aniga an iHeartRadio podcast.
Speaker 1: Hi ladies, welcome back to Still the Place.
Speaker 3: Super excited, always good to see you, so good to
Speaker 3: see you both. We're on episode twenty eight, which is
Speaker 3: called Pushing Boundaries, which is a very good title for
Speaker 3: it at first here in April seventh, nineteen ninety three.
Speaker 3: So this is back to really sort of classic fun Melrose.
Speaker 1: We have Allison falling more in.
Speaker 3: Love with Billy, which is so sweet to see her
Speaker 3: being vulnerable, but Amanda is torturing her at work and
Speaker 3: also trying to call Billy on the phone. Alison is
Speaker 3: erasing the messages. Matt has a date, which is super exciting.
Speaker 4: Matt has a date.
Speaker 1: Matt has a date.
Speaker 3: Michael is being a dick to sweet beautiful Jane and
Speaker 3: flirting with Kimberly and where the Matt and uncomfortable ways
Speaker 3: super uncomfortab and Daphne is rubbing Grant's chest all of us,
Speaker 3: both of us, I said, d as Joe's Daphne's rubbing
Speaker 3: Grant's chest for us, Joe is rubbing Jake's chest.
Speaker 1: But you know, the lines blur as.
Speaker 4: We know, very confusing.
Speaker 3: So we start off exterior D and D, which you've
Speaker 3: talked about before, but it was the spelling offices, and
Speaker 3: Amanda is already being brought to Alison. So I just
Speaker 3: want to start by saying, Amanda is in this beautiful
Speaker 3: little fitted sweater and skirt, and.
Speaker 4: We were going to start with clothes.
Speaker 3: I'm a linebacker. Why do I look like I'm ready
Speaker 3: to go on the football field? What can you explain
Speaker 3: the shoulder pads to me?
Speaker 4: They were extra large shoulder pads this time.
Speaker 5: Yes, but I have the note that finally he's in
Speaker 5: a very tightly belted skirt suit and with a velvet black.
Speaker 2: Scrunchy and finally, you're not frumpy. So there's that. Well
Speaker 2: from you, Courtney.
Speaker 5: May have put in your little double choulder pads that
Speaker 5: you got online that you told me on the Home
Speaker 5: Shopping Network the Home Shopping Network, maybe in your trailer
Speaker 5: you added, but at least you had a shape.
Speaker 2: It wasn't frumpy and layered.
Speaker 1: I thought you that's true. It's just still too big
Speaker 1: what I saw on this.
Speaker 3: I'm like, wow, Heather knows that address for her body
Speaker 3: and I have not yet figured it out I have
Speaker 3: these huge, voluminous tops. Anyway, So Amanda's being mean to
Speaker 3: Alison about her work and also sort of implying that
Speaker 3: she wants to talk to Billy. So Allison says that
Speaker 3: Billy doesn't want to talk to her, and she says,
Speaker 3: as you know, when you live with a guy, it's
Speaker 3: easy to read between the lines.
Speaker 4: I love how like Alison was sort of irritated and
Speaker 4: put out at the beginning of the conversation, but the
Speaker 4: minute she saw an opening to start, like, you know,
Speaker 4: twisting the knife to Amanda, she's smiling. She's like, oh
Speaker 4: and as you know, like she's like, I have a
Speaker 4: tactic here, and she's she's.
Speaker 2: Got a plan.
Speaker 5: Yeah, she's annoyed because because Amanda already is saying things
Speaker 5: like I need to see your work now and so
Speaker 5: slip shot and god, can't you do better, she just
Speaker 5: you know, opens it and goes through it and uses
Speaker 5: these scripty words. They were words, but she insult So
Speaker 5: Alison's like, well, let me just remind you I live
Speaker 5: with Billy, I know.
Speaker 3: So we've established that Amanda is mean to Alison, and
Speaker 3: Alison has a crush on Billy, which is adorable and
Speaker 3: then we go to Escapade magazine, where Billy's co worker
Speaker 3: has reported him for lying on his resume.
Speaker 4: About going to Columbia, about going to Columbia.
Speaker 3: He's totally you know, and instead of firing him, his
Speaker 3: boss gives him a chance to cover a story.
Speaker 1: And can you guys explain this to me? His boss
Speaker 1: is playing with.
Speaker 4: This like yeah, like.
Speaker 1: Pink ball.
Speaker 3: It was.
Speaker 4: It was a strange I mean, she's like the sophisticated
Speaker 4: head of the magazine, right, and she's squishing this pink
Speaker 4: fuzzy thing in her hand for the entire scene.
Speaker 1: We all notice, but we didn't have those then.
Speaker 4: No, it's never explained or like Billy doesn't even go,
Speaker 4: what are you doing?
Speaker 1: You have a big bu.
Speaker 2: Oh, well yeah that makes sense the rest of the show. Yeah,
Speaker 2: well maybe she slater, that makes sense, but she's thinking exactly.
Speaker 5: Instead of getting mad of her brand new employee lying,
Speaker 5: she gives him a promotion.
Speaker 3: Yeah, which is a happy surprise for Billy and a
Speaker 3: big surprise for us. So after Billy's promotion, we go
Speaker 3: to the hospital where Michael and Kimberly are flirting so
Speaker 3: overtly not subtle, not subtle about her hidden tattoo, and
Speaker 3: he's guessing where it is, and we basically have it
Speaker 3: somewhere in her nether regions, Like all we know is
Speaker 3: that it's somewhere in.
Speaker 2: The shoulders and the ankles, and really no.
Speaker 3: It's somewhere her underpants hide, right, because that's what she's
Speaker 3: made clear.
Speaker 4: Well, but she also does a little like drippy, you know,
Speaker 4: like takes her scrubs off of one shoulder, like is
Speaker 4: it here? Peekaboo, Like she's totally is.
Speaker 2: It in my ankle?
Speaker 5: And she lives her scrubs pants and you see her
Speaker 5: scrunchy socks and rebox remember those white rebox with the white.
Speaker 1: Socks, And then she dances over to sit next to him.
Speaker 4: Yeah, super game all and totally yeah, totally.
Speaker 3: Overt, Yes, super overt. There's nothing subtle about it. So
Speaker 3: at this point, I'm still kind of hoping that Michael
Speaker 3: is going to hold off because of our beautiful Jane
Speaker 3: slash dear friend Josie. And I'm already annoyed, but so
Speaker 3: fingers crossed he's gonna be able to keep it in
Speaker 3: his pants.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So then we end up at Shooters right, which is
Speaker 3: the only restaurant in town. I think of his self.
Speaker 1: It's the main restaurant, for sure, it's the main restaurant.
Speaker 1: Everyone knows Matt or having drinks and this.
Speaker 3: Very cute guy approaches him. Ronda thinks it's for her, but.
Speaker 4: It's Brian McNamara and he's a very you know, handsome,
Speaker 4: charming guy and yeah, and Rnonda assumes, but no, he's
Speaker 4: got his eyes from Matt.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and he was a lawyer on Matt's case.
Speaker 4: Wrongful termination suit. He was at the firm, but not
Speaker 4: actually on that case because he's in we'll learn later
Speaker 4: that he's in a different department.
Speaker 3: Yeah, which is a nice way too. I thought it
Speaker 3: was a subtle way to say. So he knows Matt's gay,
Speaker 3: so we know he's like they make it really clear
Speaker 3: he's hitting and him. He gives him his card and
Speaker 3: Matt says, I don't need a lawyer, and he goes,
Speaker 3: how about for dinner?
Speaker 1: Right? That's pretty smiid didn't he think? Yeah?
Speaker 3: It was?
Speaker 4: It was the uh And it was also really cute,
Speaker 4: just like to call Ronda out that she was making
Speaker 4: the assumption like, Oh, the guy's looking over here, he
Speaker 4: must be looking at me. Nope, I'm looking at Matt.
Speaker 4: I know, it was a cute way to have that scene.
Speaker 1: I was so happy he got a date. So we're
Speaker 1: all super excited.
Speaker 3: And then we're back at Billy and Allison's apartment where
Speaker 3: Alison is erasing a message from Amanda and Billy walks
Speaker 3: in just as she's doing it and tells her that
Speaker 3: he's writing about a dog wedding.
Speaker 4: Which but he's happy because he's writing.
Speaker 1: That sounds like a great article.
Speaker 4: I actually thought of you. When I saw that, I
Speaker 4: was like, oh my gosh, Corney missed me. So thrilled
Speaker 4: she missed me.
Speaker 1: Yang they're making fun of it because perfect sense.
Speaker 5: We get excited that before the scene before when the
Speaker 5: boss says, well, I have something for you to write
Speaker 5: about a wedding, you know, and uh, you're the audience goes,
Speaker 5: oh yay, you know, and then he's like a dog wedding.
Speaker 4: He's like, what it's It's cute because he's like, I
Speaker 4: know it's a puff piece and she's just like given
Speaker 4: me this like promotion sort of whatever, but at least
Speaker 4: it's writing and I'm gonna make the best durned puff
Speaker 4: piece I can. And you know, he's just like, I'll
Speaker 4: show her.
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna did you notice the angle?
Speaker 3: So we're kind of behind Alison with her gargantuan scrunchheet,
Speaker 3: which Daphney pointed out, and Billy is walking down and
Speaker 3: Andrew's gone on the cutest faded jeans. It must be
Speaker 3: when he started bringing his own clothes and he could
Speaker 3: not look cute, and Allison looks completely flustered. I put
Speaker 3: Allison looks very amused and horny in her scrunch She's like,
Speaker 3: oh dog Weddy, Oh my goodness.
Speaker 4: Like, I don't know, I didn't get horny. I really
Speaker 4: I didn't get that. I think you might be projected.
Speaker 4: We might have some recollection of I don't know.
Speaker 2: Just like there probably was some. There probably was some
Speaker 2: because behind the scenes we know, y'all what was going
Speaker 2: on before.
Speaker 1: There are my favorite genes of his that I'm having
Speaker 1: a sense memory.
Speaker 4: But wait, you're back. Did you see that he started
Speaker 4: bringing his own clothes.
Speaker 3: Well, when he's wearing their clothes, he's got on huge
Speaker 3: pleated khakis and huge shirts. He had on these really
Speaker 3: cute faded jeans which must have must have been his.
Speaker 4: You're assuming they're hit.
Speaker 2: Oh interesting, what about you? Corney?
Speaker 5: Because you were some like they look like just regular
Speaker 5: Levi's that were well worn.
Speaker 1: Those were mine. Yeah, those, Yeah, that's what I thought.
Speaker 2: You can tell, you know, when people wear their own jeans.
Speaker 1: Maybe John I was sharing the same pair of jeans.
Speaker 1: Maybe maybe that.
Speaker 5: Happens often though with wardrobe people. They'll, you know, they'll
Speaker 5: say if you have a comfortable pair of jeans, it
Speaker 5: helps them too, because it makes it look real.
Speaker 4: And jeans are nearly impossible.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's just so many. It happens pretty often.
Speaker 1: They'll say, yeah, I still have those genes.
Speaker 2: Oh really, Yeah, it must be well worn.
Speaker 1: This is thirty five years ago. Yeah, I got the
Speaker 1: five oh ones.
Speaker 2: They're back.
Speaker 1: They're back in. They're back in.
Speaker 5: I know.
Speaker 3: So now we go back to Escapade magazine and Billy's
Speaker 3: boss likes his article and shows it by walking around
Speaker 3: his chair and touching his shoulders. She gives him a promotion.
Speaker 3: He says, they don't know how to thank you, and
Speaker 3: she says, we'll think of something.
Speaker 2: Yes, Billy goes great.
Speaker 5: Thanks makes that reminds me of like this episode is
Speaker 5: two women making the moves and being very strong with
Speaker 5: the men. So you have Kimberly doing it too, Michael,
Speaker 5: And I'm very much this boss doing this to Billy,
Speaker 5: and also Amanda's coming up to Billy too, and Amanda,
Speaker 5: but not in this way. This like this boss you
Speaker 5: know often is switched around, but you know the gender.
Speaker 5: That's usually the male boss doing it to the young
Speaker 5: you know, underling female.
Speaker 4: But anyway, I thought we're neither one of them belong.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, exactly, we'll follow it through and see you right.
Speaker 3: And it's a show of aggressive women speaking of We're
Speaker 3: back at D and D and Amanda is is torturing Allison.
Speaker 3: She tells us the Handsbacker report, and she says the
Speaker 3: descriptions are trite, the goals of the campaign are ill defined,
Speaker 3: and the conclusions read like wishful thinking. Honestly, Allison, I
Speaker 3: don't mean to be harsh, but your work is still
Speaker 3: on aut to the level it was before you were
Speaker 3: chasing your boyfriend all over the country.
Speaker 1: Again, she didn't mean to be harsh, No, she meant
Speaker 1: to be kind. She just meant to exaggerate. She's trying
Speaker 1: to help, trying to help you.
Speaker 4: She was just trying to be specific.
Speaker 3: So then Billy calls to tell Alison about his promotion
Speaker 3: and you see Amanda listening to the conversation about where
Speaker 3: they're going to meet for dinner, right yeap where they're
Speaker 3: all going to meet, And.
Speaker 5: We all knew it was going to happen because so
Speaker 5: the whole building now is going to go out and
Speaker 5: celebrate for Billy Billy's.
Speaker 1: Success, which which is super cute all together a scene.
Speaker 2: So that's the next scene.
Speaker 5: And I was going to ask, you, guys, do you
Speaker 5: remember where we shot that scene where the whole building
Speaker 5: is out to dinner on an outside patio? I don't
Speaker 5: do you No, I was trying to remember where we
Speaker 5: would you know, usually its scenes where there's just a date,
Speaker 5: you know, a couple or maybe a double date somewhere,
Speaker 5: but that was I don't know.
Speaker 2: Was it a place out there?
Speaker 4: Did Marie calendar we have an outdoor patio?
Speaker 1: It actually did?
Speaker 4: They actually did?
Speaker 1: It could have been, could have been.
Speaker 4: I don't remember Hamlet too. Didn't we shoot at Hamburger Hamlets?
Speaker 3: Although yeah, that we would, but they we walk on
Speaker 3: the street after dinner, so we actually went into the town.
Speaker 2: Maybe very I was just wondering if you guys remember, Gosh,
Speaker 2: I wish I remembered.
Speaker 1: I don't but I love all being together.
Speaker 3: So at the dinner, Billy is sharing his really heartfelt
Speaker 3: thanks and Michael is just being a complete dick about it.
Speaker 3: And when Amanda shows up and says, I've been leaving
Speaker 3: you messages?
Speaker 1: Did you get them?
Speaker 3: And Billy covers for Alison, God bless him and says
Speaker 3: the machines on the fritz, and then Michael says, Michael says,
Speaker 3: if I were you, I'd get my machine fixed because
Speaker 3: you don't want to miss her car.
Speaker 1: We're very annoyed.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, because well he's just implying you don't want
Speaker 5: to miss the calls from Amanda.
Speaker 2: I know, babe, but.
Speaker 4: He's just very like smug and smarmy a little bit.
Speaker 1: And yeah, he's being.
Speaker 3: Gross in this scene, which he continues as he's walking
Speaker 3: with the guys and saying shitty things about marriage about
Speaker 3: the saying to the guys, follow.
Speaker 1: Your libido while you can, and yeah, comes when you're married.
Speaker 1: He goes, nothing, come on.
Speaker 4: So he's on the stage and.
Speaker 5: Then we have a little walk away with a little
Speaker 5: walk walk and talk as they call them in the
Speaker 5: biz with Alison and Joe and she confess as well,
Speaker 5: I erased all the messages from Amanda that she's been
Speaker 5: leaving for Billy, and then I think.
Speaker 2: I like approve that, don't I.
Speaker 1: Well, everyone's kind of saying at this point, why don't
Speaker 1: you guys just go out already?
Speaker 3: Like, yeah, it's clear, even the cast is yeah, like
Speaker 3: the audiences, Yeah, I.
Speaker 4: Know, the guys and the girls are like, why aren't
Speaker 4: you just like making Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know.
Speaker 3: Everybody's so tired of the will they won't they? Back
Speaker 3: and forth, So we go afterwards, we're back in Joe.
Speaker 3: I hope it's Joe's apartment. We don't know, but you're
Speaker 3: on pink satin sheets, so I'm hoping those aren't Jakes.
Speaker 4: It's definitely Joe's apartment because it's pink satin sheets, pink satin.
Speaker 2: How we're deciding that now, remember what, it's not Jake's.
Speaker 4: We've seen them before. Yeah, he has some sort of
Speaker 4: you know, navy plaid, but you definitely have pink satin.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so these are pink satin.
Speaker 3: And Joe is rubbing Jake's chest for America, and he's
Speaker 3: talking about Michael flirting outside of his marriage, and you
Speaker 3: said something that I thought was really interesting, you as
Speaker 3: Joe dath and you said, it seems to me that
Speaker 3: you and I were lovers way before we actually did it.
Speaker 1: And it was funny because I saw you trying to make.
Speaker 3: We did it work because I'm like, obviously you're like
Speaker 3: we like you have to do exact words like what
Speaker 3: I really, as a grown woman say, did.
Speaker 4: It like you said it kind of like cute? Like
Speaker 4: you made it kind of cute, you made it work.
Speaker 1: But I could see like how you had to make
Speaker 1: it work.
Speaker 5: And also I thought it was a little confusing because
Speaker 5: doesn't the word we were lovers mean we were making love,
Speaker 5: meaning we were having sex.
Speaker 4: She felished by we were lovers before we.
Speaker 1: Did it, so it should have been before we physically
Speaker 1: made love.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's saying that you guys were in love when
Speaker 3: you were in love with each other before you had sex.
Speaker 3: So if Michael's flirting with somebody, that's an emotional affair.
Speaker 1: That's what I think from it.
Speaker 4: It's just an example of like a line that isn't
Speaker 4: really like right, and you were just on going. I
Speaker 4: guess I just got to make this where because I
Speaker 4: can't change it right. And it's like it sounded it
Speaker 4: was like fine on paper or whatever it seemed to
Speaker 4: find on paper until somebody's trying to say it and wing, wait,
Speaker 4: yeah out loud is a whole different thing than yeah yeah.
Speaker 3: But you made it work, you made it playful, which
Speaker 3: is sweet. And then you guys, and then she went
Speaker 3: back to rubbing slide off the sheets. I don't know
Speaker 3: how because they were very pink and very shine.
Speaker 5: You just clung to his chest, on to his six
Speaker 5: packs so she wouldn't slide off those sheets like a ladder.
Speaker 1: You just hang on.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So then we're back in Billie's room and Alison enters,
Speaker 3: dare we stay without pants?
Speaker 4: Well? I lowered the shot started because it's on her
Speaker 4: bare feet on the floor at a closed door and
Speaker 4: you can tell it's a bedroom, and she's like, so
Speaker 4: it's a little bit like teasing what is this moment
Speaker 4: going to be? And then panding up, we find she's
Speaker 4: in this giant T shirt.
Speaker 2: But you're right, giant men's men's sports.
Speaker 5: You know what made me think of made me think
Speaker 5: of that was that looked like a Dartmouth the Dartmouth
Speaker 5: green soccer.
Speaker 1: That's what I thought.
Speaker 2: No, was she borrowing that from home?
Speaker 5: Too?
Speaker 2: Did she bring that from Andrew's closet blurring Blurring TV.
Speaker 1: That's a really good point.
Speaker 3: But it did look really kind of post coital, which
Speaker 3: I know it wasn't, but I know that was intentional.
Speaker 2: It was c yeah, and sexy.
Speaker 4: You're super cudy.
Speaker 1: It was really sexy.
Speaker 3: And Alison admits that she's been erasing messages, and I
Speaker 3: thought it was really sweet to see her so vulnerable,
Speaker 3: like the table has turned, and she whether she knows
Speaker 3: it or not, it's obvious to us that she's having
Speaker 3: really strong.
Speaker 1: Feelings for Billy.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and he's the one sort of playing it cooy
Speaker 3: because his boss is after him, a man is after him.
Speaker 3: Alison is just one more I must have all seen
Speaker 3: those genes that must have it.
Speaker 4: I think that was it.
Speaker 2: It's so cute how he plays it.
Speaker 5: He's just like sitting back and watching her squirm and
Speaker 5: kind of justify.
Speaker 1: It's just like, uh huh, yeah, you lied, well.
Speaker 2: Like, okay, what are you really saying?
Speaker 5: He's just staring at her and I'm just going like,
Speaker 5: are those the actors or are those the characters?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 3: It was such a shift though, right because normally he's
Speaker 3: sort of goofy and Alison's rude for some reason, and
Speaker 3: now he's so cool and she's so vulnerable.
Speaker 1: I thought it was really sweet. I like this turn.
Speaker 3: So then back in the Escapade offices, I think, I
Speaker 3: don't know, maybe this is the one you're thinking of, Laura.
Speaker 3: So Alison arrives for lunch. So she asked them to
Speaker 3: lunch in the previous scene. And she arrives for lunch
Speaker 3: in a really weird orange suit.
Speaker 4: It was like apricot color. And I will say that
Speaker 4: I think they are on me the same shoulder pads
Speaker 4: I noticed were it was very shouldery.
Speaker 3: And also off the shoulder, so how I yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: that was off the shoulder, off.
Speaker 1: The shoulder, so really weird. But whatever.
Speaker 3: So she shows up and she and the Billy and
Speaker 3: his boss are in the conference room and she is
Speaker 3: really being super flirty with him, and.
Speaker 5: The blinds are open, so when you come to like
Speaker 5: you could just see her with her short skirts sitting
Speaker 5: on a desk flirting with Billy talking about business.
Speaker 4: Yeah, she's draped herself on the conference table for all
Speaker 4: the office to see because she's left the blinds open,
Speaker 4: and they're watching. Alison and Cameron are watching through the window,
Speaker 4: and he's like, hey, are you the girlfriend?
Speaker 3: Yeah, we're super inappropriate, And Alison makes her feelings known
Speaker 3: as they're walking in the park, and then Billy says,
Speaker 3: very clearly, what's going on with you anyway? Every time
Speaker 3: I'm around a female lately, you're freaking out.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I could possibly be going on.
Speaker 3: What could possibly As Alison handles it really well and
Speaker 3: walks away, she just, you know, super directing call.
Speaker 5: And then he throws out the rest of his apple
Speaker 5: or something in a trash bin that's right there in
Speaker 5: the middle of the path, like in the middle.
Speaker 2: Like when you're in a park, trash bins are not
Speaker 2: in the middle of the walkway. The trash bins at
Speaker 2: the side in a corner near a fountain. And then
Speaker 2: I don't know, but it's never in the middle of
Speaker 2: where people are walking. It was so weird.
Speaker 3: Maybe they weren't allowed to put it on the grass
Speaker 3: or something, but it was so awkwardly. I thought this, like,
Speaker 3: you can't take a step and throw it away.
Speaker 1: It was literally right in front of him.
Speaker 5: I mean, you can catch these in film and TV.
Speaker 5: You know, when you have to go fast, you see
Speaker 5: these little weird things.
Speaker 2: That just would never happen, just so that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, this one was really obvious, prop can it?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was super funny. So now we're back at
Speaker 3: the hospital and Kimberly's complaining about her boyfriend, and then
Speaker 3: she makes an abrupt shift and admits that she was
Speaker 3: crying the night before because she's quote falling for a
Speaker 3: wonderful friend of hers that she can never have.
Speaker 1: And then Michael says does he know? And she had
Speaker 1: and says he does.
Speaker 4: Now, Well, this is another scene of like Marsha just
Speaker 4: killing it. I mean, like she is so good at
Speaker 4: these moments and like milking every like nuance out of it.
Speaker 4: I mean, I think if I think about the words
Speaker 4: on paper, it wouldn't have been that dynamic. But I
Speaker 4: think Marcia is so good, Like she really makes these
Speaker 4: scenes electric. I mean, even though we as the audience
Speaker 4: are rooting for Thomas or Michael to you know, be
Speaker 4: true to his wife whatever, the chemistry between them is
Speaker 4: absolutely undeniable too. And I think the scenes are just
Speaker 4: electric between them because I think Marcia is just so
Speaker 4: on fire and they really back worked it out.
Speaker 2: They really worked it out they too.
Speaker 5: That you can tell also because I've heard stories now
Speaker 5: of how much fun they had together as actors, you know,
Speaker 5: so like even their physicality is very you can tell
Speaker 5: they're playing.
Speaker 1: They're fun. Yeah, she really goes for it.
Speaker 3: And even though we're mad at her that moment when
Speaker 3: she's talking, you can't you feel for her in that
Speaker 3: moment when she says, I was crying over a dear friend.
Speaker 1: Do I'm in love with you?
Speaker 5: Go?
Speaker 1: Really?
Speaker 5: Who?
Speaker 1: And they're oh, man.
Speaker 4: Kane's husband, come on, yeah, and he's so he manages
Speaker 4: to sort of deflect and like get himself out of it,
Speaker 4: like uh, and and he leave right the end of
Speaker 4: the day.
Speaker 1: She leaves and he's looking after her.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's very intense, and he looks actually kind of befuddled,
Speaker 3: which is something we don't see Michael.
Speaker 1: Look very right. He's conflicted, but confused and overwhelmed.
Speaker 2: It's because this has built up.
Speaker 5: It's been weeks now, and you know, we've seen him
Speaker 5: in scenes and it's kind of building up, and he
Speaker 5: knows it's coming to it's getting too hard to turn back.
Speaker 5: I mean what she's confessing, there's a tattoo on me
Speaker 5: somewhere and I'm you know, wanting you. And they're sitting
Speaker 5: together on this bunk bed eating sandwiches, and right his
Speaker 5: intimacy is really growing.
Speaker 2: So he's like, oh God, is this really happening.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's leaning in just enough that, you know, it
Speaker 4: allows her to continue to do it. He hasn't said no,
Speaker 4: he hasn't he hasn't given her the hand.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I'm still holding out hope because he also
Speaker 3: hasn't said yes.
Speaker 2: That's so cool, that's cute.
Speaker 5: Thank you.
Speaker 3: So now we're back. We're at the in the courtyard
Speaker 3: of the apartment. Matt is excited about his date. Billy
Speaker 3: crosses to his apartment where Alison is making dinner. She's
Speaker 3: nervous and excited and she's trying to make him this dinner.
Speaker 3: She's talking a mile a minute because she's all excited,
Speaker 3: and she wants to apologize for saying the thing about
Speaker 3: his boss, and they're really having She really wants to
Speaker 3: cook dinner for him, and he just.
Speaker 1: Gets up and leaves.
Speaker 4: He's got to go to work. Yeah, it isn't that sad, summer.
Speaker 2: I know, lose, you lose, Alison. You waited too long
Speaker 2: and now you're only doing it. Didn't like her shirt,
Speaker 2: and now you're only doing it. Because these women are
Speaker 2: clearly coming after him. Your little your your roommate who
Speaker 2: you like, are so not into for some reason, suddenly
Speaker 2: you are and it might be too late, you're putting.
Speaker 1: I can't even tell if Allison is aware of it.
Speaker 1: We're aware of it. I don't know if she's aware.
Speaker 5: Of it, but she oh, I think she's Oh yeah,
Speaker 5: that's a good question. Maybe it's just her subconscious like
Speaker 5: because you can see her, you know, yeah, acting like
Speaker 5: she's aware of it.
Speaker 2: But maybe she's not.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 2: I think she's aware of it. She's e racing. I
Speaker 2: think she's aware of it. She's aware of it.
Speaker 4: I just have to ask a real life question here,
Speaker 4: though you guys are still dating in real life at
Speaker 4: this point in the show. Yeah, okay, yeah's clarifying thought.
Speaker 4: So I just wanted to make sure, Yeah, what's going
Speaker 4: on behind the scenes, Okay, I just want.
Speaker 2: To get clear of here.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's why we're sharing apparently.
Speaker 3: So now we're back at the hospital, it's nighttime, Kimberly's
Speaker 3: going to a car and Michael catches up to her,
Speaker 3: and I think he's catching up to her to break
Speaker 3: it off.
Speaker 1: What did you ladies think was happening.
Speaker 4: I don't know I was. I was just filled with
Speaker 4: inevitable ability and sort of dread, like, oh yeah, there's
Speaker 4: I mean, all we also know where it goes, so like, oh,
Speaker 4: of course, couldn't really fool myself here on what was
Speaker 4: going to happen.
Speaker 3: Yeah, she feels embarrassed and she's like, just you know,
Speaker 3: don't mess with me all this stuff, and then he
Speaker 3: grabs her and kisses her.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Now is this is the hospital parking lot? Yeah? Well
Speaker 1: do they think people can't see out.
Speaker 3: Of the thousand windows or walking by there right outside
Speaker 3: the door of the hospital.
Speaker 4: Pretty bold, not only for two doctors working at the
Speaker 4: same hospital, but a married one at that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yes, I thought that was That was pretty intense.
Speaker 3: It's like, please hide somewhere. They were right out in
Speaker 3: the open. So anyway, he gets funny because.
Speaker 5: You're gonna see in a couple more scenes kind of
Speaker 5: the same dynamic with Billy's boss the one. It's the
Speaker 5: two women who have put the move on made it
Speaker 5: very clear that they want these men, regardless of if
Speaker 5: they're taken or if it's inappropriate, and what do they say.
Speaker 2: I was so embarrassed that's what kimberly saying. You know,
Speaker 2: I'm humiliated. Well that's not his problem. Why are you
Speaker 2: like manipulating him?
Speaker 3: She's humiliated because she told him that she loves him,
Speaker 3: I know, and she's letting him know.
Speaker 2: So I'm humiliated.
Speaker 1: I feel badly.
Speaker 2: You need to fix it, basically saying, oh, you did
Speaker 2: nothing wrong. Here, come here, kiss me. And I'm just
Speaker 2: pointing that out now because we're going to see that
Speaker 2: in a few scenes. Do the same thing. She says verbally,
Speaker 2: almost the same thing verbatim to Billy.
Speaker 4: But nice.
Speaker 3: So after the hospital, after they're making out, we're in
Speaker 3: a very nice restaurant with Matt and his handsome date
Speaker 3: who immediately asked if he can smoke and reveals himself
Speaker 3: to be a greedy, shallow lawyer.
Speaker 4: Yeah, like all the things that Matt is not major
Speaker 4: red flags.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they red flags. Yeah.
Speaker 4: I think this was the smokehouse. Did you guys RECOGNI
Speaker 4: It was like red leather boot and stuff, and I
Speaker 4: saw the bar and I was like, I thought this
Speaker 4: was a smokehouse. I made Doug watch this scene, and
Speaker 4: first of all, I said, hey, do you remember that
Speaker 4: scene that you had with Brian McNamara and he's like, no,
Speaker 4: I never had a see Brian mat He's like, no,
Speaker 4: I never had Wait a minute, yes you did. He goes, no, no, no,
Speaker 4: Brian mcnammer is somebody that, like I go up for roles,
Speaker 4: Like we see each other at auditions for the next
Speaker 4: twenty five years. We'll compete against each other for the
Speaker 4: same roles or whatever. But I never had a scene
Speaker 4: with them. I'm like, okay, sit right down, I'm going
Speaker 4: to show you that. Like here's the scene. And he's like,
Speaker 4: what restaurant is this? And then he says it's not
Speaker 4: the Smokehouse, which is like an old industry. Like everybody,
Speaker 4: you know, especially after Warner Brothers or whatever, people go
Speaker 4: to the smokehouse.
Speaker 1: It's like a place she's toast around forever.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but he said it wasn't. Maybe it was like
Speaker 4: Musso and Franks. I was trying to identify the red
Speaker 4: leather boom.
Speaker 3: Well, my guess is that's the inside of the restaurant
Speaker 3: we had did the outdoor scene.
Speaker 4: It it would make sense that it was the same restaurant.
Speaker 4: So I was trying to identify that.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Yeah, but at any rate, the guy is you know, saying, oh,
Speaker 5: I'm doing this this lights a cigarette and he goes, oh,
Speaker 5: I'm doing this environmental thing with these polluters and these companies, right,
Speaker 5: and then Matt's like, oh, I know these companies get
Speaker 5: away with murder.
Speaker 2: They just put it all over the place. He's like,
Speaker 2: that's why I'm representing.
Speaker 4: That's what I'm defending, actually represent those big guys.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Bye, And he also says to Matt, we thought you
Speaker 3: should have sued him, and That's like, well, that wasn't
Speaker 3: the point.
Speaker 1: I really wanted to work with the kids. He's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: you could have made a fortune. Yeah. They're not on
Speaker 1: the same page.
Speaker 4: Not on the same page, so disappointing, but the date's
Speaker 4: not gonna.
Speaker 3: So speaking of not on the same page, we go
Speaker 3: back to Michael and Jane's apartment and gorgeous Jane is
Speaker 3: cooking dinner and trying to seduce Michael, which again you're
Speaker 3: just like, do you not have eyes or ears? And
Speaker 3: Michael looks at her beautiful chicken she's cooking and says,
Speaker 3: that's going to take forever.
Speaker 1: I'm going to bed.
Speaker 2: She has candles lit, she has a beautiful like we
Speaker 2: need to be closer, and oh, that's.
Speaker 4: Like ikey, and yeah, not good, I don't know, not good.
Speaker 5: Really putting yourself out there and forward and making that effort,
Speaker 5: you know, and trying to care for your partner.
Speaker 1: And he's just like, I gotta go, you know.
Speaker 3: And she's so sweet and gorgeous, and we're so annoyed
Speaker 3: with him. We're back to being annoyed with him. M
Speaker 3: So now we're back to escapade. Speaking of women trying
Speaker 3: to have sex with men, Billy's boss is coming on
Speaker 3: very strong and asked him to rub her shoulders.
Speaker 4: And when the scene opened, it was like are they
Speaker 4: in a hotel room or restaurant? Where is this? Because
Speaker 4: it was like, you know, like it was couch, like
Speaker 4: dim lighting and whatever. And she leads them over to
Speaker 4: the couch and then I see as the as the
Speaker 4: shot opened up it was her office, but she's got
Speaker 4: the couch in her office and she's couch.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I don't know where is where?
Speaker 1: I don't not going, but there is a joke there,
Speaker 1: just f yi.
Speaker 4: Yuh yeah.
Speaker 1: So he says no to having sex.
Speaker 3: With her, and she says, while we're at it, why
Speaker 3: don't we just forget your promote as well, which.
Speaker 1: Is pretty dark.
Speaker 5: Wait a second, hold on, did you guys say that
Speaker 5: she actually does the deed?
Speaker 4: Well, she does. She she turns sho massage.
Speaker 2: Like okay, then he massages her and then she like
Speaker 2: whips around and lunges at him. Yeah you know, and
Speaker 2: uh anyway, yeah.
Speaker 3: So then he's like uh no, yeah, and then his
Speaker 3: fears are realized when she renigs on the promotion, which
Speaker 3: is so bad. So then we're back at the apartment
Speaker 3: outside and Ronda asks him out about his date and
Speaker 3: she pressures him to give the guy a chance, and
Speaker 3: Matt of course gets defensive, which is valid, don't you think.
Speaker 4: Yeah. I like that scene. I really I liked the
Speaker 4: way he was saying, what you think I should just
Speaker 4: sleep with a guy because it's because he's the first
Speaker 4: guy that comes along, and you think that's you think
Speaker 4: that's how I You think that's what I do, And
Speaker 4: you think that's what I do because I'm gay, Like
Speaker 4: what you know? No, that bugs me. I liked that
Speaker 4: dynam in the scene of firsting. I just I just
Speaker 4: wanted you to have a good time, and you know,
Speaker 4: like I thought she was super sweet and and he
Speaker 4: was super justified and seeing what he felt like I
Speaker 4: just thought it was a nice scene. There was not
Speaker 4: a bad guy in the scene.
Speaker 2: I don't think there was a bad guy either.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, you know, like bring that into real life,
Speaker 5: you know, and you want to you would want to
Speaker 5: tell a friend.
Speaker 2: Stay open, stay open, give it another chance.
Speaker 5: Maybe you know, maybe this isn't like the whatever that
Speaker 5: you usually go for, but it's just an innocent, try
Speaker 5: to stay open friend.
Speaker 4: Yeah, which I will say that Doug couldn't remember having
Speaker 4: a scene with Brian McNamara, but he did remember that
Speaker 4: shirt he was wearing when he comes out and he's
Speaker 4: carrying the turquoise lunder basket, but he's got like this
Speaker 4: another like printed shirt on and his jean jacket tied
Speaker 4: around his waist because he might need his jean jacket
Speaker 4: on the way to the laundry room, so you better
Speaker 4: tie it around your waist.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So that's funny, that's very cute.
Speaker 4: Why do we remember, like, oh I remember that weird
Speaker 4: Sure there were, but I can't remember my seeing partner.
Speaker 3: So we're back in Billy and Allison's apartment and Allison
Speaker 3: is maniacally telling Billy about her new work plan.
Speaker 1: She's super like this.
Speaker 3: And this and this, and then I'm gonna and then
Speaker 3: I'm gonna that, and finally notices that Billy is upset,
Speaker 3: and he admits that he got demoted after ejecting his boss.
Speaker 3: And just for the record, Allison is now wearing a
Speaker 3: gargantuan white scrunchy like it must have wrapped around her
Speaker 3: seven times.
Speaker 4: It was I don't know what they deal with the
Speaker 4: big scrunchy. They were Gilman.
Speaker 1: That was very, very nineties. So it's very sad that
Speaker 1: he admits that.
Speaker 3: And Allison says we can do something, we can get
Speaker 3: a lawyer, which I was like, oh, she's in like
Speaker 3: marriage mode.
Speaker 1: He is not.
Speaker 3: Sadly there they're lines of crossed. So now we're back
Speaker 3: in Jane and Michael's apartment and Jane, of course, being
Speaker 3: loving and adorable, comes up behind him while he's shaving
Speaker 3: and invites him to lunch at her studio because it's
Speaker 3: his day off, and he says he has to go
Speaker 3: check on.
Speaker 1: Some Patience.
Speaker 2: Always excuses with him.
Speaker 4: There's like blows her off from latent lie. And I
Speaker 4: thought that that shot in the mirror was really lovely,
Speaker 4: like he's he's got a close up. He's shaving his
Speaker 4: own face, which I thought, he's if he has to
Speaker 4: do it over and over again, he's just going to
Speaker 4: shave that same spot for matching, right, because like just
Speaker 4: get the shaving cream right back there and just do
Speaker 4: that again, just the one spot.
Speaker 2: But yeah, but he's shaving.
Speaker 4: She comes up and yeah, I just thought it was
Speaker 4: a cool of her joining him, like off the back mirror,
Speaker 4: and then she turns and joins him in the front.
Speaker 2: But what I thought was he's shaving if it's his
Speaker 2: day off. That's not when men shave. That's when they
Speaker 2: don't shave because they don't have to go in. But
Speaker 2: he is not going to stick around and hang around.
Speaker 2: He's going. Isn't this where he said?
Speaker 4: Yeah, he said he still has to go into work.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And when Gane leaves for work, he immediately calls kimberly.
Speaker 2: Yes, that's what happens. He immediately says, I need to
Speaker 2: see you.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. And I'm still thinking he's definitely going to
Speaker 1: break it off now. I mean, so, I remember when.
Speaker 5: Josie was on with us and she was like, I
Speaker 5: think she was commenting on how it was frustrating at
Speaker 5: times to keep playing this pushover, you know, that, and
Speaker 5: this is it. This is an episode an example of
Speaker 5: that where you know, he's shaving and I have a
Speaker 5: day off, but I'm gonna look good and leave you.
Speaker 5: And no, I can't have dinner, even though I see
Speaker 5: the candles that you've in the dinner that you've made.
Speaker 2: No, no, no, And she doesn't get mad. E her frustrating.
Speaker 3: She's such a catch, and so I quite eternally patient
Speaker 3: and horny Jane because she's just and she always wants
Speaker 3: and maybe because she can't quite have him.
Speaker 5: Well.
Speaker 4: I also think they're trying to make him a bad
Speaker 4: guy at this point, right, they had decided, oh, he
Speaker 4: needs to turn into Yeah, so he's doing he's doing
Speaker 4: bad guy stuff for sure. Yeah he is.
Speaker 3: So we're back at Escapade magazine and Billy confronts Nancy
Speaker 3: and quits and says, you know, I really thought I could.
Speaker 3: I really loved write I liked it here. I wanted
Speaker 3: to learn from you. And Nancy, who's his boss, does
Speaker 3: a very female thing and admits to her part and apologizes.
Speaker 3: I wrote like a woman, like, I just think that
Speaker 3: that's I can't see a man doing that exactly.
Speaker 4: I wrote down the same note like this scenario with
Speaker 4: the genders reversed would never never happen. You know, You're right,
Speaker 4: I really shouldn't have done that, and I'm embarrassed. Let
Speaker 4: me give you your job back like that may except
Speaker 4: no one ever said, no man ever except for yeah,
Speaker 4: except for Nancy does. And it's great because he totally
Speaker 4: called her out too. He's like, you know, you're this
Speaker 4: was a power play. This was not about me. This
Speaker 4: was just you trying to wield your power. And I
Speaker 4: think that's pathetic. And she goes, you know, you're right
Speaker 4: that stuff like this happened to me, and I guess
Speaker 4: I was just trying to you know, turn the tables,
Speaker 4: and you're right, that sucks.
Speaker 2: It was very you got to see because she was
Speaker 2: a woman.
Speaker 5: You really got to see like, uh, you know what
Speaker 5: it would be like and the truth and just a
Speaker 5: great human conversation between them and having accountability for your actions.
Speaker 5: And she said, you know, I've put up with this
Speaker 5: my whole climb of the ladder, and I just wanted
Speaker 5: to give it a go and see if I could
Speaker 5: do it, you know, take advantage of him. And but
Speaker 5: I'm sorry, and you know, it was just very cool
Speaker 5: to that that it was that the writers.
Speaker 1: Made it a woman so we could see, Yeah, she
Speaker 1: really took responsibility.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So now we are back at Kimberly's apartment. She's clearly nervous.
Speaker 3: Michael comes over.
Speaker 1: She offers him a very sexy lunch of tuna fish which.
Speaker 4: Salads was come on and a bottom of line just
Speaker 4: as effort. Yeah, and then well he walks in the
Speaker 4: door and they just immediately start kissing. He can't even
Speaker 4: wait till he's all the way.
Speaker 3: In the door. It was seeing the tuna that made
Speaker 3: him horny. I'm like, what, that's the least sexy lunch
Speaker 3: I've ever seen.
Speaker 5: I don't know, well, what it was romantic I wrote
Speaker 5: down was that she looks all pretty in her hairs
Speaker 5: up kind offul stuft and all that, and she's wearing
Speaker 5: a loose velvet top, which is very sexy back then
Speaker 5: and then he like throws her down right on.
Speaker 4: Top of that tuna, solid on table.
Speaker 2: Like, he doesn't move to the side, he doesn't throw
Speaker 2: her on the bed or the sofa or any other surface.
Speaker 4: We're assuming that they're lying down on top of the
Speaker 4: knee lunch right now. We just set out slowered her
Speaker 4: gently you see the green beats.
Speaker 2: Under her shoulder. Okay, it's so unsexy. It's disgusting, that's
Speaker 2: what it is.
Speaker 4: And I was like, was this one of.
Speaker 5: Those situations where they were somehow inhibited by the set
Speaker 5: or the time and they couldn't like relight over onto
Speaker 5: some other area.
Speaker 3: I think it was supposed to show that they just
Speaker 3: couldn't wait, like you're so hot for each other, yep,
Speaker 3: we're doing it right here, to do it.
Speaker 2: On a salad the frame brought in that salad and
Speaker 2: you're just like, this is so un sexy. You just
Speaker 2: ruined it.
Speaker 4: But it is the episode out. I mean, that is
Speaker 4: the story, right is like this is happening, and it
Speaker 4: has happening right now, and right.
Speaker 3: Still, I'd like to say, I still believe that he
Speaker 3: might just stop and really tell her he's in love
Speaker 3: with Jane.
Speaker 4: I felt that, you want to believe that. It's like
Speaker 4: you weren't ever on the show.
Speaker 1: But you were about her. I feel good about it, Laura.
Speaker 4: I think.
Speaker 5: I think because he grabbed her and threw her up
Speaker 5: onto the table with the salad.
Speaker 2: NISI underneath and on the plates that are about to
Speaker 2: go crunch and crash and gross. I think that maybe
Speaker 2: Jesie has a chance.
Speaker 1: That's all I'm saying.
Speaker 3: Really good about It's really good about it. So that
Speaker 3: was a super good episode, wasn't it. Things are moving now,
Speaker 3: We're really really moving fast into the Melrolle Rosie.
Speaker 1: We know and love.
Speaker 4: Well, we've officially turned that corner with Thomas with Michael,
Speaker 4: making that Michael and Kimberly are have done it.
Speaker 2: There's no going back now, right, So.
Speaker 5: He's now going to have to make choices and maybe,
Speaker 5: you know, grovel to his wife.
Speaker 2: We don't know what's going to happen, but that has happened.
Speaker 5: Yes, Unlike the situation with Billy and the Boss, which
Speaker 5: is so grown up and mature.
Speaker 2: She's like, I take accountability. I'm sorry. That wasn't fair,
Speaker 2: and he's like, you throw it an apology and you
Speaker 2: got a deal.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I was like, Billy, don't push it.
Speaker 3: When he said that, I was like, just take your win,
Speaker 3: just take your win and get your Yeah, humiliate.
Speaker 1: Her more, I know. Yeah.
Speaker 4: I mean it's like she was apologizing already and he
Speaker 4: just yeah, yeah.
Speaker 5: But it's really it made me at the same time,
Speaker 5: while I'm watching, does you guys, just feel for all all.
Speaker 6: The situations where it was reversed, you know, where it
Speaker 6: was the guy in the power position, and he just
Speaker 6: hasn't done this, just at least.
Speaker 2: In the stories that we see and hear and live through.
Speaker 1: That's not how it goes.
Speaker 5: Nobody says, nobody takes accountability and go, you know what,
Speaker 5: I shouldn't have done that.
Speaker 1: I had the power.
Speaker 2: I'm older than you I have I'm your boss, you know,
Speaker 2: and here's and here's your sorry.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So anyway, so great episode, Yeah, super fun and
Speaker 3: back for twenty nine.
Speaker 4: Are you guys resisting the urge to like hit play
Speaker 4: on one more episodes? Like when you watch an episode,
Speaker 4: you're you're turning it off? Right, You're not?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: A couple of times.
Speaker 1: I really want to find a way to watch the
Speaker 1: last one together. I always do that. Yeah, let's do that.
Speaker 2: We should.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but are we gonna watch it together and take
Speaker 1: our own notes?
Speaker 4: Of course we all have thoughts, right, well.
Speaker 1: Watch you together and not talk to each other?
Speaker 5: Right?
Speaker 4: No, zip it, as Courtney likes to say, don't.
Speaker 1: Save it for the camera. Save it for the camera.
Speaker 2: I don't think we can get it if we're all
Speaker 2: in the same room.
Speaker 5: I think we wouldn't get through any of it. I
Speaker 5: think we would not have an episode for the podcast. Yeah,
Speaker 5: got together to do it, right it.
Speaker 1: I think it's worth trying. The last one will be
Speaker 1: the last one.
Speaker 2: So this is twenty eight, right, so.
Speaker 4: We have twenty nine. We got to get to thirty
Speaker 4: two for the end of the season.
Speaker 1: Yeah, four more, four more recaps and a couple more
Speaker 1: guests and a few more guests. Super exciting.
Speaker 4: I look forward to the next because we know some
Speaker 4: big stuff's going to happen.
Speaker 3: And yeah, because it's going to be the scene when
Speaker 3: Michael tells Kimberly he just can't do it and he
Speaker 3: loves it and he apologizes.
Speaker 1: Pretty sure that's coming on.
Speaker 4: I'm pretty sure. Yeah, sure, that's probably He's probably right
Speaker 4: for it. All right, Well, we'll have to tune in
Speaker 4: on the next recap, Jess, we will, all right, Thanks
Speaker 4: everybody for listening.
Speaker 1: All right, guys, so good to see you as always.
Speaker 1: Always gets go by Hi.
Speaker 5: Yes,