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Speaker 1: Be Around the NFL podcast, What appreciated upgrade to business

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Speaker 1: Class from the Crypto dot Com podcast? Did it just

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Speaker 1: from that Chris Whistling podcast studio, It's around the NFL

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Speaker 1: Dan Hansis, Gregg Rols with thal Mark Cesler. Did you

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Speaker 1: see the dude from the l A Times, Bill Platsky. Well,

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Speaker 1: we don't just talk football, we're topic all. We talk

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Speaker 1: about the zeitgeist. One of my favorite UH media moments

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Speaker 1: of the year on Twitter, uh was Bill Platsky from

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Speaker 1: the l A. Time's just like having like a moment,

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Speaker 1: like a a Twitter moment, getting emotional that the arena

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Speaker 1: in downtown l A is no longer Staples Center. It's

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Speaker 1: now Crypto dot Com Arena. It's not like the chickhern

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Speaker 1: Arena or the Magic Johnson Forum or the Forum. It

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Speaker 1: sounded good though, you know you're on the one ten

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Speaker 1: or whatever and you see the top of it. Just

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Speaker 1: it makes sense. But being emotionally attached to it was

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Speaker 1: very surprising because it was ernest. It was like heartfelt.

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Speaker 1: He was he was heartbroken. I love I love this city.

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Speaker 1: I love the old stuff in this city. Because l

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Speaker 1: when you find old stuff, it's cool. Like the old

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Speaker 1: I think it's either it's in its last days or

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Speaker 1: I think they might have taken the wrecking ball to it.

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Speaker 1: But the old l a memorial Colisseum which is also downtown. Uh,

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Speaker 1: that was dedicated. He went there because I saw Springsteen

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Speaker 1: concert there about fifteen years ago. To John F. Kennedy,

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Speaker 1: Now if you rename that, it was dedicated. Int you know,

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Speaker 1: tragedy happened. Yes, Um, that's different. I don't know on

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Speaker 1: that subject. USC still plays there and stuff. I like

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Speaker 1: him owning this stadium. It was an arena Los Angeles Sports.

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Speaker 1: It's smart for him to own the space. He got

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Speaker 1: out there ahead of everyone. He's getting emotional. We're talking

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Speaker 1: about it now on this show. Not a lot of

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Speaker 1: people in like Deep Scotland knew about Bill Platsky, so

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Speaker 1: now they do. So, you know, it is a weird

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Speaker 1: thing though, like getting attached to brands, it's a very

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Speaker 1: like one. We've lost that battle that people kind of

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Speaker 1: like they get attached to brands, like says a man

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Speaker 1: wearing like eighteen different brands, which I just said, we lost.

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Speaker 1: We lost the battle. You lost it as a child

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Speaker 1: due to due to the nature of advertising. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: guarantee you were well. And I'm not sure what was

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Speaker 1: happening in your childhood. That is a mystery. Alright, on

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Speaker 1: that subject, here we go and did a quiz last

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Speaker 1: week for Veterans Day, and Mark, you were excellent, nailed it?

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Speaker 1: Do you prove yourself? Now it's Greg's turn in the

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Speaker 1: hot seat on the subject of stadium names. We got

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Speaker 1: fifteen games this week. I'm gonna rapid fire. Greg, I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna name the stadium. You tell me the team that

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Speaker 1: plays there. Ricky, get ready for the Dings and Mark,

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Speaker 1: what we said? Does he have to have twelve? And

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Speaker 1: is that fair? Is that too? I think that that

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Speaker 1: would put him high in my esteem? All Right, here

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Speaker 1: we go go. Mercedes ben Stadium, the Falcons, high Mark Stadium,

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Speaker 1: UM the Bills, Correct Bank of America Stadium, the Panthers,

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Speaker 1: Soldier Field First Energy Stadium, the Browns, t A T

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Speaker 1: the Vikings MetLife Stadium, the Jets or Giants, Lincoln Financial Field,

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Speaker 1: Arrowhead the Seahawks, Sofi Stadium, Rams and Chargers, Raymond James Stadium,

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Speaker 1: Bucks did Greg. That was solid Bills one was the hardest.

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Speaker 1: That was what I never in Power Rankings copy or

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Speaker 1: any other NFL dot com. I never call it by

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Speaker 1: New Era Stadium or this other hokum. It's always I say.

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Speaker 1: I can't say Rich Stadium, but Orchard Park. I just yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's perfect. I'd very rarely say Met Life Stadium either.

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Speaker 1: I like to stick with the medal. You've got to

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Speaker 1: stick with the rich territory of Orchard Park. I don't

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Speaker 1: what they're doing today. All right, you guys are fired

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Speaker 1: with the quiz game, little mid season treat that I've

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Speaker 1: Sometimes you got to add stuff to keep you invested.

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Speaker 1: He I, we're hearing you loud and clear, and doesn't

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Speaker 1: love the Thursday show as much as the other shows.

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Speaker 1: I'm here to defend the Thursday Show. It's beautiful show.

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Speaker 1: all the shows that we do equally. They're like my

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Speaker 1: little babies. All right now, it is week eleven, and um,

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Speaker 1: I don't you guys are weird out there, but we

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Speaker 1: like you. All right, let's get into it. Week eleven.

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Speaker 1: The wheel goes round and round. Let's start with the

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Speaker 1: primetime games. And by the way, tonight Patriots at Falcon's

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Speaker 1: Thursday night football, Mark will have a YouTube star, I

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Speaker 1: understand a different YouTube star. You know. So Dan Dan

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Speaker 1: we're learning more about why that happened. And um, we

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Speaker 1: Greg and I have received roughly breakdown texts about how

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Speaker 1: successful that episode was and there's immense pressure to now

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Speaker 1: individual I can't feeling any pressure. I'll tell you who

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Speaker 1: my next time I'm it's gonna be Henry Hudson. I

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Speaker 1: just want to do a pod with Henry. You know,

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Speaker 1: I don't know if he's gonna bring the numbers. I

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Speaker 1: think he'll bring some numbers in. But this, this show

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Speaker 1: tonight will be special for a variety of reasons. I'm

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Speaker 1: games now, Sunday night football, we're gonna be there. How

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Speaker 1: My my mom's old saying, no good deed goes unpunished.

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Speaker 1: That's what's happening to you right now. Greg. Alright, Ricky,

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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna say it was humiliating because you didn't

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Speaker 1: It's hard to get guys motivated. They kind of were

427
00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:16,920
Speaker 1: able to get past that early season malaise and be

428
00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:19,480
Speaker 1: in good shape, and now they've hit some tarbutes just

429
00:22:19,800 --> 00:22:22,359
Speaker 1: very quickly. Our good friend Mike Burtwitz, who's who has

430
00:22:22,359 --> 00:22:25,320
Speaker 1: helped us out over there. It cracks me up, and

431
00:22:25,359 --> 00:22:27,960
Speaker 1: I wonder if there's other Patriots fans out there like this,

432
00:22:28,560 --> 00:22:31,840
Speaker 1: Patriots fans who jumped to the Bucks and then had

433
00:22:31,920 --> 00:22:35,600
Speaker 1: some very mixed feelings last week as the Patriots are

434
00:22:35,800 --> 00:22:39,280
Speaker 1: ride and high destroying the Browns and the Bucks are

435
00:22:39,320 --> 00:22:42,440
Speaker 1: losing the Washington and it was somehow is tearing Burke

436
00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:45,920
Speaker 1: up inside that they're that they're letting Brady down. And

437
00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:48,960
Speaker 1: it's just a very shame on any Patriots fan that

438
00:22:49,119 --> 00:22:50,960
Speaker 1: that did that. And then we're speaking, I mean not,

439
00:22:51,160 --> 00:22:54,399
Speaker 1: you know, not Burke. We love Burke, but did he

440
00:22:54,480 --> 00:22:57,000
Speaker 1: do that? Did he do that he became a Bucks fan? Yeah,

441
00:22:57,040 --> 00:22:59,639
Speaker 1: because he's just a Brady fan. And like that now

442
00:22:59,840 --> 00:23:03,240
Speaker 1: the Bucks they're driving them crazy. I mean, Ricky, no,

443
00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:10,159
Speaker 1: I think that's absolute as you don't. He doesn't have

444
00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:13,119
Speaker 1: time to defend himself. He he does like the Patriots too,

445
00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:15,639
Speaker 1: but he was trying to convince himself that when the

446
00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:18,359
Speaker 1: Patriots when, I'm always gonna love Brady. So if I'm

447
00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:20,080
Speaker 1: looking at games and it's like, oh I could watch

448
00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:22,080
Speaker 1: the Bangles or I'm gonna watch the Bucks, we all

449
00:23:22,119 --> 00:23:24,639
Speaker 1: would rather watch Tom Brady. So yes, am I rooting

450
00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:26,440
Speaker 1: for him? Do I want him to do well? Yes,

451
00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:29,159
Speaker 1: if it comes down to either a Pat's games on

452
00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:31,720
Speaker 1: or the Bucks game, I'm never gonna watch Tom Brady

453
00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:34,119
Speaker 1: over the Patriots. Okay, there you go. Well that's how

454
00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:36,359
Speaker 1: That's how I think it should be. But you do

455
00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:39,520
Speaker 1: have the choice as a fan, and I think I

456
00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:43,640
Speaker 1: remember in conversations with because we didn't think this isn't

457
00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:48,639
Speaker 1: an anti I do remember you and I were on

458
00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:50,440
Speaker 1: opposite sides of the fence on this one, Greg, but

459
00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:53,840
Speaker 1: there was you know, some people were unhappy about how

460
00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:56,119
Speaker 1: that relationship ended. I think Burke and a lot of

461
00:23:56,160 --> 00:23:59,200
Speaker 1: Patriots fans were mad at New England for not keeping

462
00:23:59,280 --> 00:24:02,320
Speaker 1: Tom Brady they are, which led to somebody and hindsight,

463
00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:05,240
Speaker 1: as as happy as I am with mac Jones, ultimately

464
00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:07,440
Speaker 1: those people were proven right, you probably should have just

465
00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:11,199
Speaker 1: kept God forbid, you have to come through a season

466
00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:13,640
Speaker 1: in like five games for the Patriots to get awesome again.

467
00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:17,719
Speaker 1: All Right, we're gonna get to the Patriots, everybody. Uh,

468
00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:20,640
Speaker 1: we'll get to the Patriots tonight. Let's take a break

469
00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:25,119
Speaker 1: and then get to the draft. All right, boys, here

470
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Speaker 1: we go. Let's pick up the pace. All right. I

471
00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:30,600
Speaker 1: mean that's what we do every show. It starts slow.

472
00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:34,960
Speaker 1: It's fine, We're just excited. We love talking ball. These

473
00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:37,960
Speaker 1: got hey, you know why that show works. They enjoy

474
00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:43,040
Speaker 1: what they do. They're like guys in the ball. They

475
00:24:43,080 --> 00:24:44,760
Speaker 1: really take the piss out of each other. Can you

476
00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:47,640
Speaker 1: actually imagine the last twenty minutes unfolding at a bar?

477
00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:51,679
Speaker 1: Like there's no that that is not how bar football conversations? Alright,

478
00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:53,600
Speaker 1: I get what they're saying. We've got right. Mark would

479
00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:56,359
Speaker 1: have been into minute two of his Bucks preview and

480
00:24:56,520 --> 00:24:58,040
Speaker 1: we just would have walked and gotten to the air.

481
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Speaker 1: All right, let's start the draft. I will I think

482
00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:05,400
Speaker 1: the best game on the schedules, Cowboys achieves, but there's

483
00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:07,480
Speaker 1: some strategy involved here. I'm watching that game either way.

484
00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:09,600
Speaker 1: In fact, all the late games are really good. This

485
00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:12,440
Speaker 1: week or at least interesting. But I want to put

486
00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:14,440
Speaker 1: my focus on an early game that has juice. So

487
00:25:14,560 --> 00:25:19,560
Speaker 1: I will go Packers at Vikings. Uh from US Bank Stadium,

488
00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:21,840
Speaker 1: which Gregg could easily tell you is the home of

489
00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:24,160
Speaker 1: the Vikings. But it doesn't matter where the game is played,

490
00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:28,399
Speaker 1: because it's relevance anymore. It is more likely in the NFL.

491
00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:30,919
Speaker 1: Here we are a week before Thanksgiving, it is more

492
00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:33,920
Speaker 1: likely that the road team wins than the home team. Okay,

493
00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:38,359
Speaker 1: adjusting with that knowledge in mind, all the rich people

494
00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:42,560
Speaker 1: have ruined it again, just a theory. Let's dig in.

495
00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:47,560
Speaker 1: So the Packers, Uh, they got it done last week

496
00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:51,080
Speaker 1: seventeen zip over the Seahawks. Aaron Jones gets hurt, but

497
00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:53,160
Speaker 1: A J. Dillon looks like a stud. He'll be the starter,

498
00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:55,880
Speaker 1: He'll be there. Bell cow um And I was looking

499
00:25:55,960 --> 00:25:58,480
Speaker 1: at the numbers as this. I think this Vikings game

500
00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:00,760
Speaker 1: is awesome because I think it's it's gonna be a

501
00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:05,239
Speaker 1: rugged NFC North battle Minnesota. You cannot tell they are

502
00:26:05,359 --> 00:26:07,520
Speaker 1: the NFL. You don't know what you're gonna get week

503
00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:10,199
Speaker 1: to week from them. Um, they could beat anybody, they

504
00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:13,359
Speaker 1: could lose to anybody. But I really think and this

505
00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:16,359
Speaker 1: could be the kiss of death. I really think they

506
00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:19,200
Speaker 1: are going to win this game. I don't know, I

507
00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:23,879
Speaker 1: don't know, and I know this game. I'm a bit

508
00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:26,920
Speaker 1: of a Vikings homer um even though I've I've never

509
00:26:27,040 --> 00:26:29,879
Speaker 1: held a home in Minneapolis, but I just get a

510
00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:32,160
Speaker 1: feeling they're really gonna come out and play a good game.

511
00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:35,600
Speaker 1: And the Packers I'm gonna need some see some more

512
00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:38,879
Speaker 1: greg from um Aaron Rodgers and this attack, because I

513
00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:41,520
Speaker 1: think the Vikings are gonna move the ball against them,

514
00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:44,560
Speaker 1: and I know greenbody has been playing great defensively. I'm

515
00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:46,280
Speaker 1: just saying it's a week to week league and this

516
00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:48,359
Speaker 1: just feels like a game that's gonna there's gonna be

517
00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:52,760
Speaker 1: some points. Well. Rogers has struggled against the Vikings relatively

518
00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:56,359
Speaker 1: over the course of his career. Regular around the NFL,

519
00:26:56,440 --> 00:26:59,360
Speaker 1: guest arief Hacan has a good piece in The Athletic

520
00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:04,320
Speaker 1: Today how Mike Zimmer has been so effective against Aaron Rodgers.

521
00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:06,680
Speaker 1: I think there's six, seven and one, but that's pretty

522
00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:09,640
Speaker 1: good against the Packers. But his numbers go from being

523
00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:13,440
Speaker 1: the top three quarterback to being a pretty average quarterback.

524
00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:17,760
Speaker 1: And the answer is he changes every year, like Zimmer

525
00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:20,880
Speaker 1: is one of the best defensive play callers. He comes

526
00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:23,360
Speaker 1: up with different strategies each year based on who he's

527
00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:26,920
Speaker 1: got and considering the injuries that they have. I'm really

528
00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:31,520
Speaker 1: impressed how they've held up defensively, cam buying him. This

529
00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:36,000
Speaker 1: safety who two weeks ago was the best player on

530
00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:39,080
Speaker 1: the field against the Ravens, I was like, well, that's random.

531
00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:41,879
Speaker 1: Is he worth talking about? Yet last week he was

532
00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:44,119
Speaker 1: the best player on the field again, comes out of

533
00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:47,400
Speaker 1: absolutely nowhere. If Mike Zimmer has a secret sauce, it's

534
00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:50,480
Speaker 1: that he turns safeties into some of the best safeties

535
00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:52,040
Speaker 1: in the league. Har Arrison Smith is gonna be a

536
00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:54,119
Speaker 1: Hall of Famer, but everyone who played next to Harrison

537
00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:56,480
Speaker 1: Smith is always great too. And this guy can buying

538
00:27:56,520 --> 00:27:59,400
Speaker 1: him has been a factor. Uh, And I think, yeah,

539
00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:01,639
Speaker 1: I'm with you. Make it tough on Rogers on Sunday.

540
00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:04,000
Speaker 1: I I don't. I mean, I know Daniel are not

541
00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:06,800
Speaker 1: discounting the Packers defense at all, the opposite, but I

542
00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:10,359
Speaker 1: I love this Packers team for the first time in

543
00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:12,800
Speaker 1: the run of our show because I've always been a

544
00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:15,840
Speaker 1: little bit um a typical of not being as fascinated

545
00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:18,399
Speaker 1: by the Aaron Rodgers experiences some other people, but I

546
00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:22,280
Speaker 1: like this style. Like thirty four points allowed to Russell Wilson,

547
00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:24,880
Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes and Kyler Murray over the last three weeks.

548
00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:27,160
Speaker 1: Like that. You know, sometimes these teams going these trends

549
00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:28,960
Speaker 1: and you look at the quarterbacks, you look they played,

550
00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:30,680
Speaker 1: and it doesn't make a whole lot of sense. Like

551
00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:34,240
Speaker 1: Joe Barry, who was getting picked apart by critics early

552
00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:37,000
Speaker 1: in the year, has got this crew flying right now.

553
00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:40,200
Speaker 1: It does sound like from Minnesota, Patrick Peterson will play

554
00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:42,760
Speaker 1: potentially he's trending in that direction. That's good for them.

555
00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:46,960
Speaker 1: Harrison Smith, I don't like what's happening with David back

556
00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:49,560
Speaker 1: tr Uh. They asked Matt Laflora about what's going on

557
00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:51,680
Speaker 1: there and he said, I sure, he hope he's able

558
00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:53,640
Speaker 1: to get back at some point, but it's not anytime soon.

559
00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:55,760
Speaker 1: Sounds like he had a setback because it, yeah, it

560
00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:58,040
Speaker 1: looked like he might return last week and now he's

561
00:28:58,040 --> 00:29:01,600
Speaker 1: just straight missing. Prat Now you're convinced me. I I

562
00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:04,240
Speaker 1: picked the Packers because to me, they've got something you

563
00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:09,400
Speaker 1: can't quantify that and the numbers believe regression is coming.

564
00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:13,959
Speaker 1: Vegas is very anti not anti Packers, but has been

565
00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:16,880
Speaker 1: getting drilled by the Packers this year. Their nine they've

566
00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:19,080
Speaker 1: won nine in a row against the spread, and even

567
00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:22,120
Speaker 1: in this game, the Vikings are barely underdogs. You know,

568
00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:23,960
Speaker 1: it's a two and a half point spread, but that's

569
00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:26,200
Speaker 1: because some of the underlying analytics say this is not

570
00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:28,720
Speaker 1: necessarily that good of a Packers team. But I think

571
00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:30,640
Speaker 1: you know what when you see it when a team

572
00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:33,000
Speaker 1: has something special and different parts of the team step

573
00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:35,080
Speaker 1: up depending on the week, and to me, these Packers

574
00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:38,120
Speaker 1: are like winners, and they took to Mark was saying,

575
00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:40,480
Speaker 1: like there's something they've got. I think the regression will

576
00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:42,680
Speaker 1: go the other way that that they'll the numbers will

577
00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:45,240
Speaker 1: get better and they'll keep winning. His not I mean his.

578
00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:48,239
Speaker 1: There was gonna be a regression with Roger statistically this year.

579
00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:50,960
Speaker 1: Like last season, he had a nine point one touchdown

580
00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:54,280
Speaker 1: percentage of his passes, which is like unheard of and

581
00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:56,440
Speaker 1: led the league. Now it's down to five point eight.

582
00:29:56,480 --> 00:29:58,440
Speaker 1: I think he's on paced to throw twenty seven touchdowns

583
00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:01,080
Speaker 1: this year. So it's not like this like they could

584
00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:03,880
Speaker 1: do anything they want offense this year. And one thing

585
00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:06,440
Speaker 1: with the Minnesota offense, which really I think stood out

586
00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:09,640
Speaker 1: in that win. Uh. Like we said earlier, they closed

587
00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:13,560
Speaker 1: out that game against l A. But justin Jefferson and

588
00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:17,479
Speaker 1: getting him back in the mix and being a downfield threat. Uh.

589
00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:22,200
Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins completed five passes longer than ten yards down

590
00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:24,240
Speaker 1: the field to Jefferson. I think he had one to

591
00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:26,720
Speaker 1: any other player on the team, And that was a

592
00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:28,640
Speaker 1: part of their offense that had kind of they've got

593
00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:31,120
Speaker 1: they got away from a little bit. And Jefferson is

594
00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:33,120
Speaker 1: so good. He's such a game changer. He won that

595
00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:35,720
Speaker 1: game with a big catch down the right sideline against

596
00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:38,840
Speaker 1: l A. Keep him involved, keep attacking downfield against the

597
00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:42,640
Speaker 1: banged up secondary. Let's go Vikings. Make me look good.

598
00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:45,440
Speaker 1: They used to have the the Randy ratio they should have,

599
00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:54,959
Speaker 1: like the Jefferson junk Jefferson the first try. All right,

600
00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:59,600
Speaker 1: I'm worried. I'm worried for your Dan getting. I mean,

601
00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:03,800
Speaker 1: I'm open minded knowing how they are. See. This is

602
00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:06,360
Speaker 1: why it's fun to like other teams, though, Mark, because

603
00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:09,479
Speaker 1: when you do and they lose, like it doesn't really hurt. Well.

604
00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:13,200
Speaker 1: I do like that. I do like other teams. That's

605
00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:15,960
Speaker 1: why you know, Dan, You remember that man in Pennsylvania

606
00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:18,480
Speaker 1: way back when who would say things like I'm not

607
00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:21,200
Speaker 1: gonna do what everyone thinks I'm gonna do. I'm not

608
00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:24,080
Speaker 1: just saying that was a clip in our history. Um,

609
00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:26,040
Speaker 1: I'm not going to pick the game everyone thinks I'm

610
00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:30,080
Speaker 1: gonna pick Okay with the second overall pick, because Greg

611
00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:32,640
Speaker 1: is exactly right, I'm not gonna pick. Yeah, you have

612
00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:35,840
Speaker 1: to you have to go where your heart is. And

613
00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:39,480
Speaker 1: my heart was one over on Monday night in my

614
00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:42,960
Speaker 1: living room watching Kyle Shanahan and the San Francisco forty

615
00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:46,320
Speaker 1: Niners do what they did to the Rams. And I'm

616
00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:50,360
Speaker 1: going San Francisco at Jacksonville because I think against Shanahan

617
00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:53,120
Speaker 1: last week, by the way, and I'm lucky is the

618
00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:56,600
Speaker 1: Niners this time because it's in. It is in play, baby,

619
00:31:57,160 --> 00:31:59,920
Speaker 1: it's in play. According to where this was active tree

620
00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:04,560
Speaker 1: it you're you're locking up Niners, Okay, I gotta get

621
00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:08,480
Speaker 1: out of a bad corner. It is in according to

622
00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:10,400
Speaker 1: our standards. It is. And I don't want to hear

623
00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:16,320
Speaker 1: any morality. But there is a mirror as well that's here,

624
00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:17,960
Speaker 1: and I don't like what I see half the time.

625
00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:19,920
Speaker 1: I don't need to suddenly start liking it now, So

626
00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:22,680
Speaker 1: the standards of the mirror are two different things. You've

627
00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:24,320
Speaker 1: got a lot going on here because you, yeah, you

628
00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:26,920
Speaker 1: locked against the forty niners last week. You've also said

629
00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:29,520
Speaker 1: you're intrigued by the Jaguards as a berserker team. I

630
00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:32,280
Speaker 1: think they're both said that. You know, they beat the

631
00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:35,080
Speaker 1: Bills and they almost beat the Colts, right, because I do.

632
00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:38,080
Speaker 1: I I am interested in Jacksonville because there's always the

633
00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:41,400
Speaker 1: urban Meyer thing. But I wonder if this defense actually

634
00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:43,719
Speaker 1: has taken a turn, because if they have, they can

635
00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:46,640
Speaker 1: stay in games like they did against a solid Cults team.

636
00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:48,840
Speaker 1: For me, though, I just want to see if if

637
00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:52,400
Speaker 1: San Francisco, if that was a one week fantasy that

638
00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:55,280
Speaker 1: does exactly what it's doing getting me excited again, or

639
00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:57,200
Speaker 1: if that's who they can be on a week to

640
00:32:57,200 --> 00:33:01,080
Speaker 1: week basis. I mean, Trent Williams, PFF's second overall best

641
00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:04,200
Speaker 1: player from last week, Maullen people left and right, George

642
00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:06,680
Speaker 1: Kittle back on the field, taking von Miller and throwing

643
00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:09,160
Speaker 1: them around like a raggedy ann and Andy doll one

644
00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:10,800
Speaker 1: of them, or maybe you tied them together and you

645
00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:14,760
Speaker 1: throw it and it's an old school doll. Does anyone

646
00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:18,680
Speaker 1: know a long time around the NFL listeners. Noah, because

647
00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:23,880
Speaker 1: Mark brings old Raggedy Ann out. But I know of it,

648
00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:25,600
Speaker 1: like I'm not sitting around playing with it at my

649
00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:28,200
Speaker 1: house right now. But I understand your Salt reference from

650
00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:31,080
Speaker 1: last week. Now, what the girl with the umbrella in

651
00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:34,000
Speaker 1: the purple dress. Oh yeah, I got you on that one.

652
00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:37,640
Speaker 1: When it ran speaking of you actually brought up one

653
00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:40,600
Speaker 1: little nugget. Um. This is a little off the game topic,

654
00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:42,959
Speaker 1: but one of my favorite things from that Monday night.

655
00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:45,800
Speaker 1: We'll get back to Raggedy Ann and Salt. Well, this

656
00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:48,920
Speaker 1: isn't that far off Ricky Um. Deebo Samuel's had a

657
00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:52,320
Speaker 1: lot of these celebrations. It's like, alright, cool, But Deebo

658
00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:55,120
Speaker 1: Samuel has one where he lies down and puts his

659
00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:58,080
Speaker 1: hands under his chin and kicks his legs back like

660
00:33:58,160 --> 00:33:59,960
Speaker 1: a little girl on her on her bed. I think

661
00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:03,080
Speaker 1: it's it's more adorable than the Salt girl with the umbrella. Yes,

662
00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:05,040
Speaker 1: it's a step up from that. So I believe in

663
00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:07,600
Speaker 1: Deebo Samuel. I believe in Jimmy Ward, I believe in

664
00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:11,000
Speaker 1: Trent Williams. I believe in Kyle Shanahan. You'll lock it

665
00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:13,960
Speaker 1: up San Francisco Jacksonville with the second overall pick. That

666
00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:16,400
Speaker 1: is one of the big surprise. That's Denver beating up

667
00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:18,480
Speaker 1: on the Cowboy because they it would have been there

668
00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:22,560
Speaker 1: coming around. There's no channel. Then he'll go. One thing

669
00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:25,040
Speaker 1: is like I don't I mean, I'm that will t

670
00:34:25,160 --> 00:34:27,480
Speaker 1: be down that I don't want to grab Dallas Kansas

671
00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:30,680
Speaker 1: City because everyone's gonna be squawking and shouting about it anyways.

672
00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:32,480
Speaker 1: So it's like I like to be in my own

673
00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:34,719
Speaker 1: world where I can form, but you also can just

674
00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:37,600
Speaker 1: like not you know, look at engage with Twitter. Just

675
00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:40,120
Speaker 1: send them out, but don't read it on Sundays. That's

676
00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:43,680
Speaker 1: a fine way to yeah, oh wait, we didn't even

677
00:34:43,680 --> 00:34:47,319
Speaker 1: talk to quickly that that Jack's defense though, like they

678
00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:50,560
Speaker 1: have really forced the alan and went and back to

679
00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:53,080
Speaker 1: back weeks to go underneath, underneath overall and that this

680
00:34:53,160 --> 00:34:54,560
Speaker 1: is a tough team to do that against because you

681
00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:57,239
Speaker 1: gotta tackle that forty Niners team. So if you if

682
00:34:57,280 --> 00:35:00,480
Speaker 1: you just force underneath passes all day, don't know, good

683
00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:08,080
Speaker 1: luck against all. Right, now, the draft fell so differently

684
00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:10,520
Speaker 1: that I'm gonna put off the decision I haven't made

685
00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:13,520
Speaker 1: yet and just take that Cowboys keeps Chiefs. I'm not

686
00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:18,040
Speaker 1: gonna think you think too hard about it. What a

687
00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:22,840
Speaker 1: good test of like does the course of the season

688
00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:25,960
Speaker 1: matter more, or does just like last week matter more

689
00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:29,200
Speaker 1: in terms of like picking games, or or what you

690
00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:32,880
Speaker 1: think is predictive, because over the course of this season,

691
00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:35,960
Speaker 1: nothing predictive about the Chiefs would say they're better than

692
00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:38,920
Speaker 1: the Cowboys. Even if you believe they turned the corner

693
00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:42,440
Speaker 1: last week that met Pat Mahomes somehow turned back into

694
00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:47,399
Speaker 1: Pat Mahomes on that rollout to finish their victory over

695
00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:50,560
Speaker 1: the Packers, the final play to Tyreek Hill the week before,

696
00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:53,200
Speaker 1: and he carried it through to Vegas and now he's

697
00:35:53,239 --> 00:35:56,080
Speaker 1: got his mojo back. Even if you believe that, I

698
00:35:56,280 --> 00:35:58,640
Speaker 1: don't see the argument where you say their offense could

699
00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:01,520
Speaker 1: be better than the Cowboys. It's just not like the

700
00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:03,760
Speaker 1: offensive line is better for the Cowboys. There's more weapons

701
00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:05,720
Speaker 1: for the Cowboys, the running game is better for the Cowboys.

702
00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:08,080
Speaker 1: You got Gallop back, you get Tyrann Smith back. I

703
00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:10,480
Speaker 1: trust that Cowboys offense more. You want to go back

704
00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:13,719
Speaker 1: to previous year's fine, Like then it's a conversation the

705
00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:16,040
Speaker 1: Chiefs versus this year's Cowboys and then when you look

706
00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:19,560
Speaker 1: at the two defenses, I'm so impressed with dan Quinn

707
00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:23,440
Speaker 1: getting production out of guys like Dorian's Armstrong and Jordan

708
00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:26,800
Speaker 1: Lewis that there's no question their defense is better. So

709
00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:29,680
Speaker 1: to me, I like the Cowboys a lot in this game,

710
00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:32,040
Speaker 1: but I am I'm fascinated to see because it chiefs

711
00:36:32,080 --> 00:36:34,640
Speaker 1: to me are so fascinating to watch each week, like

712
00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:37,200
Speaker 1: which team's gonna show well? I I let last week

713
00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:40,120
Speaker 1: was trying to push this, you know, not a total

714
00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:42,680
Speaker 1: argument I would have died for, but that maybe the

715
00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:45,240
Speaker 1: Broncos game told us something about the Cowboys we didn't

716
00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:48,440
Speaker 1: want to like, but they came back. Um, that Falcons

717
00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:52,520
Speaker 1: beat down was so demonstrative and so powerful, and it's

718
00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:55,640
Speaker 1: like Seedee Lamb coming out of the slot is totally

719
00:36:55,760 --> 00:36:59,080
Speaker 1: unstoppable on every level. Mike McCarthy seemed about as happy

720
00:36:59,120 --> 00:37:02,719
Speaker 1: as I've seen him in years, and I love both coordinators.

721
00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:05,360
Speaker 1: There's not anything to not like about Dallas, and I

722
00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:06,920
Speaker 1: do think of Greg. It's not so much that does

723
00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:09,080
Speaker 1: Kansas City of the better offense. It's like, can we

724
00:37:09,239 --> 00:37:11,279
Speaker 1: argue for them to be as chilled out and cool

725
00:37:11,320 --> 00:37:13,480
Speaker 1: as they were against the Raiders? And just deliver a

726
00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:16,239
Speaker 1: shootout in this game. Yeah, I think Uh, like I

727
00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:19,040
Speaker 1: said last week, I thought the Cowboys maybe not the

728
00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:22,000
Speaker 1: worst thing to get spank there, and it's an out

729
00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:24,960
Speaker 1: of conference game, and maybe they're getting there falling in

730
00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:26,719
Speaker 1: love with the smell of their own farts, as they say,

731
00:37:27,080 --> 00:37:30,040
Speaker 1: you know, maybe to some people, and then maybe they

732
00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:35,000
Speaker 1: needed a little wake up call people. Well, I don't know,

733
00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:37,680
Speaker 1: some people do some people fall in love and then

734
00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:39,799
Speaker 1: you get you learned that that's probably not a good

735
00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:42,080
Speaker 1: way to go through life. Uh So what they did

736
00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:44,480
Speaker 1: to Atlanta, Atlanta, the Falcons were in the wrong place

737
00:37:44,520 --> 00:37:46,200
Speaker 1: at the wrong time in that game. The Cowboys can

738
00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:49,400
Speaker 1: kill anybody, now, the Chiefs, I've I think I was

739
00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:52,440
Speaker 1: on record on on a Sunday show like I'm all

740
00:37:52,520 --> 00:37:56,719
Speaker 1: in on this now. Yes, it's let's go Patrick, let's

741
00:37:56,760 --> 00:38:00,600
Speaker 1: go Tyreeke, let's go Travis, Let's go fly and tear

742
00:38:00,640 --> 00:38:02,520
Speaker 1: the league apart, because it's more fun when you are

743
00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:05,080
Speaker 1: that way. Um. But I can't base it on anything

744
00:38:05,120 --> 00:38:06,920
Speaker 1: because they have teased us a couple of times this year.

745
00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:10,280
Speaker 1: But I don't think that the Cowboys are a defense

746
00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:13,120
Speaker 1: that's necessarily going to put up a huge fight. And

747
00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:15,360
Speaker 1: I will say this the key to this game. Treyvon

748
00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:18,200
Speaker 1: Diggs put up a lot of fights. Treybon Digs keep

749
00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:19,920
Speaker 1: an eye and Treyvon Digs he could win or lose

750
00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:22,600
Speaker 1: this game because he could have a huge interception or

751
00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:24,719
Speaker 1: a huge play and he's been doing that all year.

752
00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:26,560
Speaker 1: But he's also been giving up a lot of chunk plays.

753
00:38:27,080 --> 00:38:29,040
Speaker 1: Uh so Homes is either going to feast on him

754
00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:30,920
Speaker 1: or get killed by It reminds me of that Patriots

755
00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:33,400
Speaker 1: game where the variants on Trayvon Diggs was all over

756
00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:36,640
Speaker 1: the place, like he's making huge game changing maneuvers and

757
00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:39,200
Speaker 1: then getting totally burned to play later. I mean's happened

758
00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:40,719
Speaker 1: every week, which is why I don't like him for

759
00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:43,400
Speaker 1: Defensive Player of the Year. But that's that's a different conversation.

760
00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:45,440
Speaker 1: I also trust the Cowboys more because I trust them

761
00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:49,520
Speaker 1: more to stay on the field on fourth down than

762
00:38:49,640 --> 00:38:52,760
Speaker 1: the Chiefs. And I like what Kellen Moore said during

763
00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:55,080
Speaker 1: last week. I think it was when he talked about

764
00:38:55,200 --> 00:38:57,160
Speaker 1: fourth down and he said, it's not really a shock,

765
00:38:57,680 --> 00:38:59,720
Speaker 1: you know, when it happens, it's not this big dramatic

766
00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:02,560
Speaker 1: mom It's part of our philosophy. We understand, we can

767
00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:05,279
Speaker 1: play third down like it's second down, so you can

768
00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:07,760
Speaker 1: play it out for four downs. So they're calling plays

769
00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:11,040
Speaker 1: when it's third and seven. Take what you can get,

770
00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:14,120
Speaker 1: Dak and because we're gonna go for it on fourth down.

771
00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:15,719
Speaker 1: And to me, that was like the difference in that

772
00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:19,360
Speaker 1: Atlanta game somewhat is a couple of those situations early

773
00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:22,920
Speaker 1: that they got. I get it. But if but if

774
00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:28,560
Speaker 1: they did, if they were playing like the Mike McCarthy Packers,

775
00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:32,440
Speaker 1: they would have very possibly been losing that game midway

776
00:39:32,520 --> 00:39:35,000
Speaker 1: through the second quarter because going for it on fourth

777
00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:37,680
Speaker 1: and playing it that way really made a huge difference.

778
00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:40,239
Speaker 1: All Right, let's pick it with a score mark. I'm

779
00:39:40,239 --> 00:39:45,200
Speaker 1: gonna go Cowboys thirty one, Chiefs twenties. Yeah I have

780
00:39:45,320 --> 00:39:49,000
Speaker 1: I have the Cowboys thirty seven. That tells you something's

781
00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:50,759
Speaker 1: gonna go way wrong here. Yeah, I'll have to go

782
00:39:50,840 --> 00:39:55,520
Speaker 1: the other way. I'll go Chiefs thirty six, Cowboys thirty four.

783
00:39:55,600 --> 00:39:57,600
Speaker 1: Game of the Year. Like justin we call everyone thinks

784
00:39:57,640 --> 00:39:59,239
Speaker 1: it's gonna be this close shootout, it's gonna be like

785
00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:04,800
Speaker 1: four or like seventeen three exactly. All Right, I know

786
00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:09,120
Speaker 1: one person who might not think it's hello, heroes. This

787
00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:13,800
Speaker 1: is Matthew Westling. I wanted to thank you for giving

788
00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:16,520
Speaker 1: me the chance to call in since my dad isn't

789
00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:18,560
Speaker 1: very good at this. He asked me to make the hall.

790
00:40:19,640 --> 00:40:21,960
Speaker 1: I'm going to go with my uncle Tim and pick

791
00:40:22,040 --> 00:40:25,440
Speaker 1: the Cowboys over the Chiefs. I know the Cowboys have

792
00:40:25,560 --> 00:40:28,320
Speaker 1: Trey Von Diggs, who has the most picks in the NFL.

793
00:40:28,880 --> 00:40:31,600
Speaker 1: They also have DeMarcus Lawrence, who I think is one

794
00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:34,080
Speaker 1: of the best defensive ends in the league, and of

795
00:40:34,200 --> 00:40:37,959
Speaker 1: course Dak Prescott and os u Zeke Elliott. I also

796
00:40:38,080 --> 00:40:41,560
Speaker 1: wanted to say thanks Greg for all the help and fantasy.

797
00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:44,480
Speaker 1: I won't forget that my uncle Hurst was the one

798
00:40:44,520 --> 00:40:46,719
Speaker 1: that helped me come up with my fantasy. Read name

799
00:40:47,120 --> 00:40:50,520
Speaker 1: which is returned to Mac says Uncle christ would say,

800
00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:56,960
Speaker 1: lock it up. Yeah, I was wonderful. I like anaky Wesselyn.

801
00:40:57,200 --> 00:41:00,960
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Mackie for all the terrible lineup advice I've

802
00:41:01,040 --> 00:41:04,520
Speaker 1: given you this year. Every time. You know, every time

803
00:41:04,600 --> 00:41:06,239
Speaker 1: it's the wrong chase. But I did say pick up

804
00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:09,319
Speaker 1: mark Ingram last week. That worked out nicely, very smart move.

805
00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:12,320
Speaker 1: Return of the Mac by Mark Morrison was one of

806
00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:16,279
Speaker 1: West's favorite gems. Uh and I didn't really. I wasn't

807
00:41:16,280 --> 00:41:19,000
Speaker 1: familiar with that song really, somehow it missed me, and

808
00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:22,879
Speaker 1: but we used to play it every game, like every

809
00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:25,479
Speaker 1: softball game. It would play in the studio lot before

810
00:41:25,560 --> 00:41:29,080
Speaker 1: podcast Return of the Max, So Return of Mackie. I

811
00:41:29,200 --> 00:41:36,000
Speaker 1: like it all. Okay, great to hear all the West links. Greg,

812
00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:43,359
Speaker 1: why is this so? Why? I all week I had

813
00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:45,160
Speaker 1: a play in what my number one pick is and

814
00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:47,279
Speaker 1: I'm changing it on game day, I want to watch

815
00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:50,080
Speaker 1: Cam Newton live. I realized, now that's where my heart is.

816
00:41:50,640 --> 00:41:53,880
Speaker 1: I'm going to watch the Washington football team and the

817
00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:57,880
Speaker 1: Carolina Panthers. You can't make this up that Cam Newton's

818
00:41:57,920 --> 00:41:59,840
Speaker 1: first if you had said before the start of this

819
00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:02,440
Speaker 1: even Cam Newton's gonna return to the Panthers and in

820
00:42:02,560 --> 00:42:05,520
Speaker 1: his first starred he goes against Ron Rivera. I'm in

821
00:42:05,680 --> 00:42:12,000
Speaker 1: on narrative street. Yeah, like, because he's not the guy.

822
00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:14,120
Speaker 1: You know a lot of people's like, oh, you know

823
00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:20,240
Speaker 1: Matt Rule and David Tepper. You know they did Cam wrong.

824
00:42:20,520 --> 00:42:22,640
Speaker 1: He he was in a weird spot when that came.

825
00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:25,680
Speaker 1: If there's a person that should have a revenge game

826
00:42:25,719 --> 00:42:29,160
Speaker 1: scenario here, it's Ron Rivera. Because David Tepper came in

827
00:42:29,239 --> 00:42:31,840
Speaker 1: there and he fired, you know, the best coach in

828
00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:35,480
Speaker 1: their franchise history in like week four or five of

829
00:42:35,600 --> 00:42:38,799
Speaker 1: that twenty nineteen season. He was done wrong. He wants

830
00:42:38,840 --> 00:42:42,200
Speaker 1: to go get it, go get Cam Newton. And when

831
00:42:42,280 --> 00:42:46,759
Speaker 1: they asked Ron Rivera going in, you know after last week,

832
00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:49,440
Speaker 1: do you have some you know, some idea on how

833
00:42:49,480 --> 00:42:53,160
Speaker 1: to stop Cam Newton any defensive places? Like yeah, I've

834
00:42:53,200 --> 00:42:56,160
Speaker 1: got him. And I love that there is something going

835
00:42:56,239 --> 00:43:00,440
Speaker 1: on here like last week, this incredibly tired narrative that

836
00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:03,480
Speaker 1: like Matt Ryan knew Dan Quinn's defense, like excuse me,

837
00:43:03,880 --> 00:43:06,919
Speaker 1: it goes the other way around. And Ron Rivera has

838
00:43:07,360 --> 00:43:09,640
Speaker 1: about as much knowledge on Cam Newton as anyone out there.

839
00:43:09,680 --> 00:43:13,000
Speaker 1: I'm not convinced the Cam Newton hype will be met

840
00:43:13,080 --> 00:43:15,640
Speaker 1: with Cam Newton's performance. I I like, am I the

841
00:43:15,719 --> 00:43:17,759
Speaker 1: only one that found him quite boring to watch in

842
00:43:17,800 --> 00:43:20,520
Speaker 1: New England. I I get I get what everyone's saying.

843
00:43:20,520 --> 00:43:22,680
Speaker 1: I think he's got something more intriguing parts from and

844
00:43:22,719 --> 00:43:25,480
Speaker 1: than he did last year with the Patriots. But wait

845
00:43:25,560 --> 00:43:28,080
Speaker 1: and see on that. I am honestly more intrigued by

846
00:43:28,120 --> 00:43:30,040
Speaker 1: Taylor Heineke right now. I I don't know what it

847
00:43:30,160 --> 00:43:33,279
Speaker 1: is I did watching him? Did He's got a revenge game?

848
00:43:33,520 --> 00:43:36,680
Speaker 1: I mean, these two teams have so much carry over

849
00:43:36,760 --> 00:43:40,080
Speaker 1: Curtis Samuel, who's not healthy, Joey slides on this Washington.

850
00:43:40,680 --> 00:43:44,000
Speaker 1: There's a lot of at this point on this team.

851
00:43:44,880 --> 00:43:47,960
Speaker 1: It's uh, it's great. I don't know, and I might

852
00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:50,120
Speaker 1: be wrong because as a Cam fan, I'm a little

853
00:43:50,200 --> 00:43:53,959
Speaker 1: worried that, yes, we'd see Cam, especially when he hasn't

854
00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:56,400
Speaker 1: been practicing. But I think it's worth noting the Patriots

855
00:43:56,480 --> 00:44:00,080
Speaker 1: reporters all thought he looked better throughout this offseason, and

856
00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:02,759
Speaker 1: that was backed up in the preseason, and that was

857
00:44:02,800 --> 00:44:05,040
Speaker 1: backed up by Bill Belichick's words. I know they cut him,

858
00:44:05,160 --> 00:44:07,360
Speaker 1: but I think he looked better this offseason. Maybe a

859
00:44:07,360 --> 00:44:09,640
Speaker 1: little right, just not Bill Belichick's actions, but his words.

860
00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:15,880
Speaker 1: I think, Yeah, I think, listen, you have Cam. Cam

861
00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:18,440
Speaker 1: is not two thousand fifteen camps. So all the Panthers

862
00:44:18,480 --> 00:44:20,440
Speaker 1: fans that took the number one jerseys out of their

863
00:44:20,520 --> 00:44:23,520
Speaker 1: closets triumphantly and pulled them out, as long as they

864
00:44:23,560 --> 00:44:26,279
Speaker 1: understand that that guy is probably not walking through the door,

865
00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:28,560
Speaker 1: you're gonna be okay, because I think what he's gonna

866
00:44:28,600 --> 00:44:32,000
Speaker 1: be is a being upgrade over Donald who was just

867
00:44:32,120 --> 00:44:34,920
Speaker 1: killing the offense let's face it, for about five, five

868
00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:38,000
Speaker 1: or six weeks. B I think he's a leadership guy.

869
00:44:38,040 --> 00:44:40,759
Speaker 1: I think the team. I think he could like goose

870
00:44:40,840 --> 00:44:42,680
Speaker 1: a locker room, and I think that locker room needed it.

871
00:44:42,760 --> 00:44:44,920
Speaker 1: It was getting pretty grim in there. And then I

872
00:44:44,960 --> 00:44:47,920
Speaker 1: think the biggest thing with the Panthers and why the

873
00:44:48,160 --> 00:44:50,760
Speaker 1: leader of the lock battle right now the old zeuser

874
00:44:51,280 --> 00:44:55,960
Speaker 1: is locking up Carolina is Christian McCaffrey. He's living in

875
00:44:56,040 --> 00:44:58,880
Speaker 1: the second level of defenses again. Looks awesome. And when

876
00:44:58,920 --> 00:45:01,160
Speaker 1: you have you put those things together, I think they're

877
00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:04,239
Speaker 1: gonna I think they're gonna roll in this game. And

878
00:45:04,360 --> 00:45:07,560
Speaker 1: I think they are a player in this uh NFC

879
00:45:07,719 --> 00:45:10,000
Speaker 1: playoff race. And I think that one other thing with

880
00:45:10,160 --> 00:45:12,120
Speaker 1: Cam where's my lock? By the way Ricky hit me

881
00:45:12,239 --> 00:45:14,200
Speaker 1: with it, I wasn't sure if you actually locked them.

882
00:45:14,239 --> 00:45:17,759
Speaker 1: You're just like they're a lock to your locks. Panthers

883
00:45:18,640 --> 00:45:24,319
Speaker 1: and the my last point defense maybe and now it's gone,

884
00:45:24,600 --> 00:45:26,440
Speaker 1: someone else jump in. I think they have like a

885
00:45:27,440 --> 00:45:31,160
Speaker 1: defense that keeps evolving and growing and becoming more dangerous.

886
00:45:31,480 --> 00:45:33,719
Speaker 1: Shack Thompson is playing like in an all pro level

887
00:45:33,920 --> 00:45:36,600
Speaker 1: like every time I watched the Panthers, Dante Jackson does something.

888
00:45:36,920 --> 00:45:40,719
Speaker 1: Hassan Reddick, I mean they are eat a bad QBS. Well,

889
00:45:40,760 --> 00:45:42,520
Speaker 1: I mean, we'll see what happens this week. I mean,

890
00:45:42,680 --> 00:45:44,960
Speaker 1: I think the Cam's a whole different deal and there's

891
00:45:44,960 --> 00:45:47,399
Speaker 1: a lot of unknown there, but they're heart of their team.

892
00:45:47,880 --> 00:45:50,640
Speaker 1: Their offense up until now, until last week, is like

893
00:45:50,920 --> 00:45:53,799
Speaker 1: been a huge question mark. Their defense has been really

894
00:45:53,880 --> 00:45:56,160
Speaker 1: spicy in a field level. But some of that, some

895
00:45:56,320 --> 00:45:59,960
Speaker 1: of that the offense was McCaffrey out and Donald sper

896
00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:02,879
Speaker 1: sent Hunter. But now you have McCaffrey healthy and Cam

897
00:46:02,960 --> 00:46:04,759
Speaker 1: who's just a more dynamic player. And the point I

898
00:46:04,840 --> 00:46:07,040
Speaker 1: was making was you have Joe Brady and Matt Rule

899
00:46:07,080 --> 00:46:08,880
Speaker 1: and the whole cell on these guys is that they

900
00:46:08,920 --> 00:46:12,080
Speaker 1: were offensive minded dudes that knew how to um make

901
00:46:12,200 --> 00:46:15,680
Speaker 1: offenses work. So I think Cam that could that could

902
00:46:15,719 --> 00:46:17,520
Speaker 1: help him as well. Now I know McDaniels is a

903
00:46:17,560 --> 00:46:19,799
Speaker 1: great offensive coach in New England too, but he's gonna

904
00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:21,719
Speaker 1: help the running game too. They want to run the ball.

905
00:46:21,760 --> 00:46:24,320
Speaker 1: They've talked about it forty five times a game, like

906
00:46:24,440 --> 00:46:27,000
Speaker 1: that's what they want to do. And Cam Newton is

907
00:46:27,040 --> 00:46:28,799
Speaker 1: such an advantage in the running game. I think will

908
00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:30,439
Speaker 1: be a big part of the running game. I thought

909
00:46:30,560 --> 00:46:33,359
Speaker 1: when the Patriots played them it was very telling. Even

910
00:46:33,400 --> 00:46:35,719
Speaker 1: with Mac Jones, who's been playing pretty well, they didn't

911
00:46:35,719 --> 00:46:39,120
Speaker 1: even try drop back passing. Everything was short stuff because

912
00:46:39,160 --> 00:46:41,040
Speaker 1: they were afraid. Not afraid, but they were trying to

913
00:46:41,120 --> 00:46:45,120
Speaker 1: work around that great pass rush that Carolina has. I'm

914
00:46:45,200 --> 00:46:48,160
Speaker 1: with you, Dan, I think Washington is in trouble. I

915
00:46:48,320 --> 00:46:51,759
Speaker 1: do know, I'm not um. I do want to point out, though,

916
00:46:52,680 --> 00:46:54,759
Speaker 1: just a moment that I enjoyed in last week's game

917
00:46:54,800 --> 00:46:58,080
Speaker 1: from Washington quickly, which was the Terry McLaurin third down

918
00:46:58,200 --> 00:47:00,640
Speaker 1: catches he got rocked to sent at least sought that

919
00:47:00,760 --> 00:47:03,040
Speaker 1: game away was one of like the third down over

920
00:47:03,080 --> 00:47:05,759
Speaker 1: the middle catches of the year, and it also inspired

921
00:47:05,920 --> 00:47:08,440
Speaker 1: one of my favorite broadcasting moments of the year from

922
00:47:08,480 --> 00:47:12,319
Speaker 1: Mark Slayre. I'm changing his name to love it because

923
00:47:12,360 --> 00:47:18,320
Speaker 1: I'm loving it. Who said that you haven't heard of

924
00:47:18,400 --> 00:47:20,560
Speaker 1: mclovin reath in a while. Let's hear it when we're saying,

925
00:47:20,600 --> 00:47:24,200
Speaker 1: I don't know, just the build up because I'm loving it.

926
00:47:24,840 --> 00:47:29,000
Speaker 1: Oh no, what does that even mean? Changes like McDonald's

927
00:47:29,000 --> 00:47:33,600
Speaker 1: reference in there too, alright, always having fun and that's good.

928
00:47:33,719 --> 00:47:37,640
Speaker 1: He's enjoyed himself. UM, all right, do we have developing

929
00:47:37,680 --> 00:47:41,640
Speaker 1: news Rickie? All right, we'll come back. No, we got it.

930
00:47:42,520 --> 00:47:47,880
Speaker 1: This song, I love it, alright, one of the great anthems.

931
00:47:48,200 --> 00:47:52,880
Speaker 1: We got an email about credentials. I'll ask credential deadline

932
00:47:52,960 --> 00:47:59,719
Speaker 1: pass so they no what we'll see. Don't worry about

933
00:47:59,760 --> 00:48:03,000
Speaker 1: the in between. Let's just see how this results. And

934
00:48:05,360 --> 00:48:09,760
Speaker 1: it's problematic, that's not not ideal, not a rapport builder.

935
00:48:10,000 --> 00:48:12,000
Speaker 1: But do we want to call for it right now?

936
00:48:12,719 --> 00:48:17,120
Speaker 1: Get him on the Horn movie if you want copedite that.

937
00:48:17,320 --> 00:48:19,840
Speaker 1: What is a terms of just chain of command? I

938
00:48:19,880 --> 00:48:22,040
Speaker 1: think would make sense that you stayed out front on this, Greig,

939
00:48:22,760 --> 00:48:25,560
Speaker 1: I don't. I'm not taking this at all, Dan, because

940
00:48:25,800 --> 00:48:28,560
Speaker 1: you brought up this idea of multiple times. I never

941
00:48:28,719 --> 00:48:32,719
Speaker 1: once did I hear h You mentioned Erica last week

942
00:48:33,239 --> 00:48:38,080
Speaker 1: Sunday you asked. I always said we that and Eric

943
00:48:38,239 --> 00:48:40,000
Speaker 1: is part of the show. She wasn't even on those

944
00:48:40,080 --> 00:48:43,200
Speaker 1: texts that you were sending about I was. I knew

945
00:48:43,239 --> 00:48:44,640
Speaker 1: where Erica would be on it, but I wanted to

946
00:48:44,640 --> 00:48:48,160
Speaker 1: see how you guys know I we all are sharing.

947
00:48:49,040 --> 00:48:54,120
Speaker 1: Um this agreed just over I said that, Mark. Yeah,

948
00:48:54,160 --> 00:48:57,200
Speaker 1: I've been saying this. I share the blame. But if

949
00:48:57,239 --> 00:48:59,120
Speaker 1: you have, if someone has to take the fall, someone

950
00:48:59,200 --> 00:49:02,920
Speaker 1: has to be like Tom and succession, somebody has Do

951
00:49:03,000 --> 00:49:06,719
Speaker 1: you just spoil I just started season one? Well you've

952
00:49:06,760 --> 00:49:08,120
Speaker 1: got a way, You've got a way to go. I mean,

953
00:49:08,200 --> 00:49:10,520
Speaker 1: I think the best thing that I've done literally, you

954
00:49:11,520 --> 00:49:16,640
Speaker 1: can't be oh wow, yeah, that's crazy. How like people

955
00:49:16,719 --> 00:49:19,520
Speaker 1: sometimes don't watch the show exactly as it comes out.

956
00:49:19,600 --> 00:49:21,800
Speaker 1: That's a new I don't know. We might have to

957
00:49:21,800 --> 00:49:24,400
Speaker 1: believe that out and I'm sorry but it's not. But

958
00:49:24,680 --> 00:49:31,120
Speaker 1: that's not even something right. That's even worse because no,

959
00:49:31,239 --> 00:49:33,799
Speaker 1: it's not happening until day to wipe it from your mind,

960
00:49:34,200 --> 00:49:36,640
Speaker 1: you know, I don't. I don't think you can claime

961
00:49:36,719 --> 00:49:38,960
Speaker 1: Greg here entirely. But I know that the best thing

962
00:49:39,000 --> 00:49:40,880
Speaker 1: I've ever done is just simply I did like a

963
00:49:41,000 --> 00:49:43,040
Speaker 1: thumbs up icon on one of the posts about hey

964
00:49:43,080 --> 00:49:44,759
Speaker 1: do you want to go to the game. Ever never

965
00:49:44,840 --> 00:49:47,239
Speaker 1: weighed in a yeah. Not a man of action. I

966
00:49:47,760 --> 00:49:49,520
Speaker 1: know it's gotta be one or the other. What if

967
00:49:49,560 --> 00:49:51,560
Speaker 1: I said like, hey, guys, I want to do this,

968
00:49:51,880 --> 00:49:54,799
Speaker 1: there would be zero response, So I don't even even said, Hey,

969
00:49:54,880 --> 00:49:57,719
Speaker 1: I don't forget to bring up Erica. Then like, oh yeah,

970
00:49:58,400 --> 00:50:01,319
Speaker 1: I assumed based off the we comment that we would

971
00:50:01,320 --> 00:50:08,040
Speaker 1: always include Erica in the comment. There's there's certainly a dynamic. It's,

972
00:50:08,120 --> 00:50:09,759
Speaker 1: you know, I'll come up with an idea, or Greg

973
00:50:09,800 --> 00:50:11,879
Speaker 1: will come up with an idea, and then Mark will

974
00:50:11,880 --> 00:50:13,640
Speaker 1: be on the chain as well. And Mark will almost

975
00:50:13,640 --> 00:50:16,520
Speaker 1: always answer first and say sounds good or thumbs up.

976
00:50:17,160 --> 00:50:19,600
Speaker 1: That's typically how it goes. But I have because like

977
00:50:21,160 --> 00:50:26,600
Speaker 1: I am practiced in the introducing ideas that are so

978
00:50:26,719 --> 00:50:28,719
Speaker 1: what's the point. And then I see Dave Shot, I

979
00:50:28,800 --> 00:50:30,279
Speaker 1: see Ford, and I was like, oh, these are the

980
00:50:30,360 --> 00:50:34,160
Speaker 1: people to ask what is the point of introducing an

981
00:50:34,200 --> 00:50:37,360
Speaker 1: idea to Greg and Dan? Wait a second? Introduced an idea?

982
00:50:37,480 --> 00:50:40,440
Speaker 1: We're in when I feel like when I feel like

983
00:50:40,640 --> 00:50:42,839
Speaker 1: we're like an hour and forty eight minutes into the show,

984
00:50:43,080 --> 00:50:46,399
Speaker 1: All right, let's move Mark, you are up, I am

985
00:50:46,560 --> 00:50:49,600
Speaker 1: holy smokes, all right, Oh I know what I want.

986
00:50:50,400 --> 00:50:53,120
Speaker 1: I got to get that late time slot. I'm going

987
00:50:53,360 --> 00:50:58,239
Speaker 1: Cardinals at Seattle. I am hoping that that includes as

988
00:50:58,320 --> 00:51:00,600
Speaker 1: much as I you know, adore a concept to call

989
00:51:00,719 --> 00:51:03,919
Speaker 1: McCoy that experience burnt out, kind of crashed and burned

990
00:51:04,000 --> 00:51:05,320
Speaker 1: last week in a way where we don't need to

991
00:51:05,400 --> 00:51:09,200
Speaker 1: visually experience that again. Kyler Murray has practiced three straight days,

992
00:51:09,719 --> 00:51:13,239
Speaker 1: um to what. Fashion not totally sure DeAndre Hopkins has not,

993
00:51:13,480 --> 00:51:16,000
Speaker 1: but I think we're getting Kyler Murray back. And I

994
00:51:16,080 --> 00:51:18,160
Speaker 1: want to remind people here right now that if you

995
00:51:18,239 --> 00:51:21,440
Speaker 1: are our lover of good writing, UM connor or our

996
00:51:21,480 --> 00:51:23,920
Speaker 1: friend wrote the s I cover story on how the

997
00:51:24,040 --> 00:51:27,040
Speaker 1: NFL learned to create love creative qbs with Kyler Murray

998
00:51:27,120 --> 00:51:28,800
Speaker 1: on the cover. Kind of cool that he did that.

999
00:51:28,880 --> 00:51:33,040
Speaker 1: We all grew up reading that magazine. We still read it. Um,

1000
00:51:34,280 --> 00:51:37,279
Speaker 1: I basically just throw out everything that happened to the

1001
00:51:37,320 --> 00:51:40,399
Speaker 1: Cardinals last week. If we're gonna hand out Mulligan's left

1002
00:51:40,440 --> 00:51:42,200
Speaker 1: and right, this is a legitimate reason. You've got a

1003
00:51:42,239 --> 00:51:44,840
Speaker 1: backup quarterback in there. You're missing a bunch of guys

1004
00:51:45,160 --> 00:51:48,080
Speaker 1: they got they were down twenty and twenty nothing due

1005
00:51:48,080 --> 00:51:50,799
Speaker 1: to bad QB play and killer mistakes out of the gate.

1006
00:51:51,080 --> 00:51:53,520
Speaker 1: Just wipe it away this game. If you get back

1007
00:51:53,600 --> 00:51:57,120
Speaker 1: on track, two things happen. One you Basically, if you

1008
00:51:57,200 --> 00:51:59,480
Speaker 1: continue on this path and you're the Cardinals, you convince

1009
00:51:59,560 --> 00:52:01,640
Speaker 1: us your base siically the best team in the NFC,

1010
00:52:01,800 --> 00:52:04,799
Speaker 1: potentially in my opinion. I know that they're it's people

1011
00:52:04,840 --> 00:52:07,720
Speaker 1: are waiting for them to fade, But secondly, you bury Seattle.

1012
00:52:07,920 --> 00:52:10,200
Speaker 1: Seattle takes one more loss at this point, and they

1013
00:52:10,280 --> 00:52:12,040
Speaker 1: look bad doing it the way they did last week.

1014
00:52:12,320 --> 00:52:14,319
Speaker 1: My belief in them, I don't need to believe in them.

1015
00:52:14,320 --> 00:52:15,920
Speaker 1: I don't need to spend a lot of words or

1016
00:52:16,000 --> 00:52:21,200
Speaker 1: time looking like they would even with a seventeen game season.

1017
00:52:21,280 --> 00:52:23,239
Speaker 1: Now that three and seven is gonna be very hard.

1018
00:52:23,920 --> 00:52:25,719
Speaker 1: There's no margin for error for a team that's been

1019
00:52:25,760 --> 00:52:29,840
Speaker 1: making errors all season. However, I do feel like this

1020
00:52:30,000 --> 00:52:34,239
Speaker 1: is a very tricky spot. Definitely not gonna switch because

1021
00:52:34,239 --> 00:52:37,320
Speaker 1: I don't feel confident, but I do think there is

1022
00:52:37,400 --> 00:52:40,239
Speaker 1: something too. And I I said this already, but like

1023
00:52:40,360 --> 00:52:43,280
Speaker 1: Arizona smart to the way they play this with Kyler,

1024
00:52:43,320 --> 00:52:45,560
Speaker 1: they didn't rush them back, or let's hope they didn't

1025
00:52:45,600 --> 00:52:48,359
Speaker 1: rush them back Hopkins, it seems like it's stranding towards

1026
00:52:48,360 --> 00:52:51,360
Speaker 1: They're gonna give his hamstring another week. That's all cool, too, Okay,

1027
00:52:51,400 --> 00:52:53,960
Speaker 1: you gotta you're playing the long game here. Now you

1028
00:52:54,080 --> 00:52:56,319
Speaker 1: also you start seven or oh, now you lose two

1029
00:52:56,440 --> 00:52:58,640
Speaker 1: or three, so you the way the ebbs and flows

1030
00:52:58,640 --> 00:53:00,400
Speaker 1: of a season are, you might not be playing with

1031
00:53:00,480 --> 00:53:03,040
Speaker 1: the same level of confidence you are even when Kyler

1032
00:53:03,160 --> 00:53:06,000
Speaker 1: comes back and you go to Seattle to face a

1033
00:53:06,080 --> 00:53:08,400
Speaker 1: team that, yes, I know home field advantage doesn't matter anymore,

1034
00:53:08,560 --> 00:53:11,080
Speaker 1: but that's always been a place where the Seahawks play

1035
00:53:11,239 --> 00:53:14,120
Speaker 1: very well. Russell Wilson, how's another full week to kind

1036
00:53:14,160 --> 00:53:16,799
Speaker 1: of get back into the groove. Hopefully, if you're Seahawks fan,

1037
00:53:17,120 --> 00:53:20,520
Speaker 1: knockoff some rust. Hopefully the fingers maybe even stronger, and

1038
00:53:20,880 --> 00:53:24,360
Speaker 1: they need the win. I never like to be a

1039
00:53:24,520 --> 00:53:28,040
Speaker 1: team that's going to play somewhere against a proven team

1040
00:53:28,120 --> 00:53:30,880
Speaker 1: that's struggling, that needs a win, and that's where Seattle

1041
00:53:30,960 --> 00:53:34,080
Speaker 1: is right now. I like the Seahawks this week. They're

1042
00:53:34,120 --> 00:53:36,640
Speaker 1: more interesting to talk about, though, than they are to watch.

1043
00:53:37,160 --> 00:53:40,279
Speaker 1: That's fair. I mean Russell Wilson's coming off. I think

1044
00:53:40,280 --> 00:53:42,200
Speaker 1: it's the worst game of his career. You could do

1045
00:53:42,280 --> 00:53:45,240
Speaker 1: it by any statistical measurements. They didn't score any points.

1046
00:53:45,400 --> 00:53:48,360
Speaker 1: That the first time that ever happened. Right that that,

1047
00:53:48,440 --> 00:53:53,880
Speaker 1: I'll tell you, And then the DK Metcalf quotes. I

1048
00:53:53,960 --> 00:53:56,200
Speaker 1: think it's the thing. I think there's something going on here.

1049
00:53:56,239 --> 00:53:58,040
Speaker 1: When he gave Gino, I'm not trying to make it

1050
00:53:58,040 --> 00:54:04,279
Speaker 1: about this extra praise of that he he had never

1051
00:54:04,360 --> 00:54:06,320
Speaker 1: had a ball put in his place in this certain

1052
00:54:06,320 --> 00:54:08,520
Speaker 1: place where you're just trusting the playmakers. And then after

1053
00:54:08,719 --> 00:54:11,800
Speaker 1: last week's game, after he really loses his mind on

1054
00:54:11,880 --> 00:54:15,160
Speaker 1: the field, and he said afterwards, we have to get

1055
00:54:15,239 --> 00:54:18,000
Speaker 1: the ball to our playmakers and let them make plays.

1056
00:54:18,320 --> 00:54:21,919
Speaker 1: And I pair that comment with a quarterback who when

1057
00:54:21,960 --> 00:54:23,960
Speaker 1: he's at his worst, and it's not that often, he's

1058
00:54:24,000 --> 00:54:26,760
Speaker 1: a Hall of Famer, but like last week, his biggest

1059
00:54:26,800 --> 00:54:29,640
Speaker 1: problem is holding the ball and not making a decision

1060
00:54:29,960 --> 00:54:33,520
Speaker 1: and not getting giving his playmakers a chance. There's something

1061
00:54:33,600 --> 00:54:36,600
Speaker 1: going on here in this Cardinals team who's outscored opponents

1062
00:54:36,920 --> 00:54:41,279
Speaker 1: by night points, great opponents too on the road this year.

1063
00:54:41,360 --> 00:54:44,439
Speaker 1: It's like, I just believe in them. I'm with Mark,

1064
00:54:44,480 --> 00:54:46,799
Speaker 1: I believe in them all the way. Well, yeah, Dan,

1065
00:54:46,880 --> 00:54:50,279
Speaker 1: do you like with the Cardinals? They've been high in

1066
00:54:50,320 --> 00:54:53,279
Speaker 1: your power rankings, but there there seems to be a

1067
00:54:53,320 --> 00:54:55,719
Speaker 1: bit of hesitancy to a little bit. I will. I

1068
00:54:55,840 --> 00:54:57,560
Speaker 1: think you're right. I I have them high in the

1069
00:54:57,560 --> 00:55:00,560
Speaker 1: power ganks because they deserve it. They started the season defeated.

1070
00:55:00,680 --> 00:55:03,279
Speaker 1: Now that you can't dang them too hard. Smack the

1071
00:55:03,360 --> 00:55:07,359
Speaker 1: Brown smack the Rams, the Titans smack, and you can't

1072
00:55:07,400 --> 00:55:09,560
Speaker 1: tag them too hard because their struggles in the last

1073
00:55:09,600 --> 00:55:12,440
Speaker 1: three weeks are completely connected to the quarterback being hurt

1074
00:55:12,520 --> 00:55:14,480
Speaker 1: and the second best player on the team or wide

1075
00:55:14,520 --> 00:55:17,960
Speaker 1: receiver being out. But like I said, it's not so

1076
00:55:18,120 --> 00:55:21,680
Speaker 1: much an anti Cardinals take, it's more a Seahawks last

1077
00:55:21,719 --> 00:55:25,239
Speaker 1: stand type take take. And it's as tough as a

1078
00:55:25,280 --> 00:55:27,920
Speaker 1: Seattle has been to watch, is as mediocre as they've been,

1079
00:55:27,960 --> 00:55:30,399
Speaker 1: as bad as they were on Sunday, this is still

1080
00:55:30,440 --> 00:55:33,320
Speaker 1: an organization with a coach and a quarterback that have

1081
00:55:33,400 --> 00:55:35,400
Speaker 1: been to the playoffs nine in the past ten years.

1082
00:55:36,040 --> 00:55:37,960
Speaker 1: And if they have any fight in them at all,

1083
00:55:38,040 --> 00:55:39,799
Speaker 1: and maybe they don't, maybe things are really messed up

1084
00:55:39,800 --> 00:55:42,120
Speaker 1: behind the scenes, and they stink on Sunday and they're cooked,

1085
00:55:42,480 --> 00:55:44,279
Speaker 1: And like you called three weeks ago, Mark, you could

1086
00:55:44,280 --> 00:55:46,480
Speaker 1: stick a fork in them. I'm just not ready to

1087
00:55:46,560 --> 00:55:48,600
Speaker 1: go there. I think they're gonna play well in this game.

1088
00:55:49,120 --> 00:55:53,120
Speaker 1: That's it. It's not anti Cardinals. It's more like bigger

1089
00:55:53,160 --> 00:55:55,279
Speaker 1: viewpoint of the Seattle organization over the past time and

1090
00:55:55,280 --> 00:55:57,040
Speaker 1: we know we're not sure what's happening with Chris Carson.

1091
00:55:57,080 --> 00:55:59,520
Speaker 1: I would like Seattle a lot better. If we sound good,

1092
00:56:00,760 --> 00:56:03,640
Speaker 1: all right, I'll go next and I will take another

1093
00:56:03,640 --> 00:56:07,239
Speaker 1: there some good afternoon games. Uh, there's only one less

1094
00:56:07,480 --> 00:56:09,720
Speaker 1: left in the late afternoon, so I'll take Bangles at Raiders,

1095
00:56:09,760 --> 00:56:14,160
Speaker 1: and I love that game. Love it. Cincinnati coming off

1096
00:56:14,200 --> 00:56:19,439
Speaker 1: of By, Uh, I don't know, coming off coming off By,

1097
00:56:19,960 --> 00:56:23,239
Speaker 1: it's like it's halfway to Berman. It's like at the

1098
00:56:23,400 --> 00:56:26,040
Speaker 1: Big Balloba. I was gonna say, it's kind of like

1099
00:56:26,120 --> 00:56:35,279
Speaker 1: a Molly Shannon SNL character. Um. Cincinnati hit Thereby in

1100
00:56:35,400 --> 00:56:39,880
Speaker 1: a bad way, uh, terrible loss to the Browns, collapsed

1101
00:56:39,880 --> 00:56:42,359
Speaker 1: against the Jets. By came at a really good time.

1102
00:56:42,400 --> 00:56:45,640
Speaker 1: And it's a good test um for that coaching staff,

1103
00:56:45,680 --> 00:56:48,759
Speaker 1: who we've given them props for the rise up in

1104
00:56:48,840 --> 00:56:51,400
Speaker 1: the first half of the season. But now here's here's

1105
00:56:51,520 --> 00:56:54,520
Speaker 1: a real challenge. Here is your first, um, you know,

1106
00:56:54,680 --> 00:56:57,600
Speaker 1: real struggles that you've hit. How do you adapt to that?

1107
00:56:57,640 --> 00:56:59,680
Speaker 1: Are you gonna go down the tubes like so many

1108
00:56:59,800 --> 00:57:02,480
Speaker 1: years before in Cincinnati, or are you gonna kind of

1109
00:57:02,800 --> 00:57:05,440
Speaker 1: come out and beat the Raiders. A Raiders team that

1110
00:57:05,560 --> 00:57:07,800
Speaker 1: also is five and four, and it's also on a

1111
00:57:07,880 --> 00:57:10,279
Speaker 1: two game losing streak and has looked like a team

1112
00:57:10,320 --> 00:57:12,000
Speaker 1: that looks I can go either way right now. I

1113
00:57:12,080 --> 00:57:14,680
Speaker 1: feel like this is like the Bone Thugs and Harmony

1114
00:57:14,760 --> 00:57:21,320
Speaker 1: Crossroads game of the Week. It's teams. It's like it's

1115
00:57:21,400 --> 00:57:23,840
Speaker 1: the Stop the Bleeding Bowl, right It's like the you

1116
00:57:23,920 --> 00:57:26,520
Speaker 1: could you could call it the Overrated Bowl if you wanted,

1117
00:57:27,240 --> 00:57:28,880
Speaker 1: if you look at like kind of the analytics that

1118
00:57:28,960 --> 00:57:31,000
Speaker 1: these are two teams that are maybe below average but

1119
00:57:31,080 --> 00:57:33,000
Speaker 1: do have a winning record. I call it the Uncle

1120
00:57:33,080 --> 00:57:38,040
Speaker 1: Charles Bowled Uncle Charles Bengals Raiders the team that loses

1121
00:57:38,080 --> 00:57:40,880
Speaker 1: this game. I think they're in a lot of trouble.

1122
00:57:41,320 --> 00:57:43,240
Speaker 1: And uh, I think it's a coin flip game, because

1123
00:57:43,440 --> 00:57:45,480
Speaker 1: how do we how can we possibly know? You guys,

1124
00:57:45,560 --> 00:57:48,320
Speaker 1: tell me you follow ball? You tell me? How can

1125
00:57:48,400 --> 00:57:50,840
Speaker 1: we tell which version of Cincinnati or Vegas shows up

1126
00:57:50,840 --> 00:57:52,680
Speaker 1: on se So it's it was a pick up to start.

1127
00:57:53,160 --> 00:57:55,440
Speaker 1: The Bettors must like the Bengals because they are now

1128
00:57:55,520 --> 00:58:00,600
Speaker 1: favored by a point. I lean Vegas just because the

1129
00:58:00,720 --> 00:58:04,480
Speaker 1: Bengals defense has me so spooked in their last two games.

1130
00:58:04,640 --> 00:58:08,640
Speaker 1: Like Mike White, sanity or whatever. We're calling. It was

1131
00:58:08,800 --> 00:58:12,920
Speaker 1: totally because of the Bengals. Hey, Baker's like did it?

1132
00:58:13,320 --> 00:58:15,760
Speaker 1: You know he slayed the Dragons without oh b j.

1133
00:58:15,960 --> 00:58:17,760
Speaker 1: Even though he had like one throw to a wide receiver.

1134
00:58:18,080 --> 00:58:22,520
Speaker 1: That was because of the Bengals. So so part of

1135
00:58:22,600 --> 00:58:26,320
Speaker 1: me thinks Derek Carr is playing so well that he'll

1136
00:58:26,400 --> 00:58:30,040
Speaker 1: do something similar. Yeah. It's like if anything, you went

1137
00:58:30,120 --> 00:58:33,560
Speaker 1: into the season not trusting their defense. Uh, A lot

1138
00:58:33,600 --> 00:58:36,120
Speaker 1: of trust was gained and then it's been lost. I mean,

1139
00:58:36,680 --> 00:58:40,400
Speaker 1: what happened to them the Cincinnati was totally destructive. And

1140
00:58:40,800 --> 00:58:42,760
Speaker 1: I also look at a Raiders team that was down

1141
00:58:43,360 --> 00:58:45,760
Speaker 1: to fourteen last week. I know it's the Chiefs, but

1142
00:58:45,880 --> 00:58:48,160
Speaker 1: they're all on offense, had ten first downs like late

1143
00:58:48,240 --> 00:58:50,479
Speaker 1: late in the game, like you got to the final

1144
00:58:50,600 --> 00:58:53,520
Speaker 1: score so you get stayed down yea. They just like

1145
00:58:53,720 --> 00:58:56,480
Speaker 1: that scared me for the Raiders as much as some

1146
00:58:56,560 --> 00:58:58,000
Speaker 1: of the stuff going on with since you. So, I

1147
00:58:58,080 --> 00:58:59,960
Speaker 1: think that you know, we've nailed at the three of

1148
00:59:00,120 --> 00:59:03,080
Speaker 1: us as we always typically seem to do. Um. The

1149
00:59:03,200 --> 00:59:07,400
Speaker 1: loser of this is in a serious hot water. UM alright,

1150
00:59:07,760 --> 00:59:09,960
Speaker 1: but good job by UM. I think it was Phil

1151
00:59:10,000 --> 00:59:14,960
Speaker 1: Wesley pointing out that Joe Burrow's lower half. It's like

1152
00:59:15,480 --> 00:59:18,000
Speaker 1: you put it out there, the picture. I'm not proud

1153
00:59:18,080 --> 00:59:20,880
Speaker 1: of it. Yes, there was a photo of Joe Burrow

1154
00:59:20,960 --> 00:59:23,760
Speaker 1: at a press conference and his lower half. It was

1155
00:59:24,000 --> 00:59:25,640
Speaker 1: a little bit alarming, and I sent it over to

1156
00:59:25,680 --> 00:59:29,360
Speaker 1: the Cincinnati Boys and you fellas, and I just want

1157
00:59:29,360 --> 00:59:34,200
Speaker 1: to be out there listen. Wasn't maybe it wasn't to share.

1158
00:59:34,320 --> 00:59:35,880
Speaker 1: Then I shouldn't have done that. Just yeah, he was

1159
00:59:35,920 --> 00:59:39,880
Speaker 1: a little smart, big upper half, smaller flags. His arm

1160
00:59:40,000 --> 00:59:42,360
Speaker 1: is much stronger though here this year, so maybe he

1161
00:59:42,480 --> 00:59:45,400
Speaker 1: just worked a lot on his arm because he is

1162
00:59:45,440 --> 00:59:47,680
Speaker 1: a different quarterback to me. It's the league and interceptions.

1163
00:59:47,720 --> 00:59:50,000
Speaker 1: But I also would say that that um that visually

1164
00:59:50,320 --> 00:59:54,080
Speaker 1: I noticed this little They're not They're not all on

1165
00:59:54,200 --> 00:59:57,400
Speaker 1: him that first of all with Cincinnati, like you need

1166
00:59:57,520 --> 01:00:00,360
Speaker 1: to be um creating a podium situation that does reveal

1167
01:00:00,480 --> 01:00:02,280
Speaker 1: the player's lower half, like it looks that was an

1168
01:00:02,360 --> 01:00:04,560
Speaker 1: issue for them earlier in the season. They needed a

1169
01:00:04,600 --> 01:00:07,479
Speaker 1: new it's not Westport High School, let's get our back together.

1170
01:00:07,600 --> 01:00:10,160
Speaker 1: Unless you have a super prominent lower half, then you

1171
01:00:10,200 --> 01:00:12,400
Speaker 1: say put him in front of that one that Fugais

1172
01:00:12,520 --> 01:00:14,240
Speaker 1: set up. And then if if you've got you know,

1173
01:00:14,320 --> 01:00:17,080
Speaker 1: some chicken legs and burrows taking bullets. Now, because of

1174
01:00:17,200 --> 01:00:19,800
Speaker 1: the equipment set up, you're like, yeah, like you don't

1175
01:00:19,800 --> 01:00:22,520
Speaker 1: even know Maurice Jones drew in his second year. Don't

1176
01:00:22,560 --> 01:00:25,200
Speaker 1: even need a podium. Those those like tree trunks, very

1177
01:00:25,440 --> 01:00:27,800
Speaker 1: take one bargley, you know, put quadzillo, have them standing

1178
01:00:27,880 --> 01:00:30,040
Speaker 1: up and let the media just stare at those things.

1179
01:00:30,040 --> 01:00:32,200
Speaker 1: Should be a player by player case. All right, let's

1180
01:00:32,200 --> 01:00:34,040
Speaker 1: pause right here and take a break. We'll be right back.

1181
01:00:36,720 --> 01:00:40,760
Speaker 1: All right, I snakes to me, and I will just

1182
01:00:40,920 --> 01:00:43,920
Speaker 1: because obviously I shouldn't take this, but I will. Dolphins

1183
01:00:43,960 --> 01:00:47,080
Speaker 1: and Jets. Uh So I I'll fall on the sword

1184
01:00:47,120 --> 01:00:50,440
Speaker 1: and this one um and not a lot needs to

1185
01:00:50,480 --> 01:00:54,320
Speaker 1: be said other than two is playing. Uh. The Dolphins

1186
01:00:54,400 --> 01:00:57,040
Speaker 1: had half of bye after their upset went over the Ravens.

1187
01:00:57,600 --> 01:01:01,040
Speaker 1: So the idea, now, uh, as we've been talking about,

1188
01:01:01,160 --> 01:01:04,240
Speaker 1: is too has an opportunity here to string together some

1189
01:01:04,440 --> 01:01:08,600
Speaker 1: quality games. Uh either as let's let's just be totally

1190
01:01:08,640 --> 01:01:12,040
Speaker 1: honest about this audition tape for another team in two

1191
01:01:12,520 --> 01:01:15,360
Speaker 1: or with the Dolphins. So that's that's kind of where

1192
01:01:15,360 --> 01:01:16,960
Speaker 1: I see it now. You could also, I guess, make

1193
01:01:17,040 --> 01:01:20,720
Speaker 1: the case and Greg, you had said you would share

1194
01:01:20,760 --> 01:01:23,160
Speaker 1: the nugget that there's only five teams that aren't aren't

1195
01:01:23,200 --> 01:01:27,000
Speaker 1: within a one game of a playoff spot entering week eleven,

1196
01:01:27,080 --> 01:01:30,320
Speaker 1: or the Dolphins outside that window. Yeah, they're outside the window.

1197
01:01:30,360 --> 01:01:32,360
Speaker 1: But listen, it's the parody in the league is so

1198
01:01:32,440 --> 01:01:34,600
Speaker 1: out of control that even at three and seven, you

1199
01:01:34,640 --> 01:01:36,840
Speaker 1: beat the Jets. Here four and seven, Okay, let's see,

1200
01:01:36,880 --> 01:01:38,800
Speaker 1: maybe you got hot. Yeah. I mean it's they have

1201
01:01:38,920 --> 01:01:41,720
Speaker 1: the Jets, they have the Panthers, the Giants, and then

1202
01:01:41,760 --> 01:01:44,200
Speaker 1: the Jets. Again. I get the Panthers. Everyone believes that

1203
01:01:44,320 --> 01:01:47,600
Speaker 1: they're morphing into something that I called them before the season,

1204
01:01:47,600 --> 01:01:49,760
Speaker 1: which is a playoff team. But I do look at

1205
01:01:49,800 --> 01:01:55,200
Speaker 1: the what it's like. I'm gonna get on people Dan

1206
01:01:55,640 --> 01:01:58,520
Speaker 1: for getting into a team, and then I'm also going

1207
01:01:58,600 --> 01:02:01,600
Speaker 1: to throw out that I was in on the team earlier. Well,

1208
01:02:01,920 --> 01:02:04,720
Speaker 1: if you have, you have to get it in there

1209
01:02:04,760 --> 01:02:07,800
Speaker 1: anyway you can. But I I think Dan, your attitude

1210
01:02:07,840 --> 01:02:10,520
Speaker 1: towards um. I saw some of your tweets about the Jets,

1211
01:02:11,160 --> 01:02:12,760
Speaker 1: and you are dead right. We don't need to. I

1212
01:02:12,840 --> 01:02:14,919
Speaker 1: think people get where you're at. I want to see

1213
01:02:14,960 --> 01:02:18,680
Speaker 1: with Miami though, like the Baltimore game. Wow, it's like, okay,

1214
01:02:18,760 --> 01:02:21,720
Speaker 1: maybe just another one of these total adoration scenarios. But

1215
01:02:22,520 --> 01:02:25,240
Speaker 1: they last year I thought one over a lot of

1216
01:02:25,320 --> 01:02:28,480
Speaker 1: believers by how they made life so difficult for opposing

1217
01:02:28,520 --> 01:02:30,840
Speaker 1: quarterbacks and it wasn't the same thing every week. They

1218
01:02:30,880 --> 01:02:33,240
Speaker 1: were able to be versatile and adjust. They did it

1219
01:02:33,320 --> 01:02:35,440
Speaker 1: to Lamar Jackson. I mean, I'm not saying doing that

1220
01:02:35,520 --> 01:02:38,000
Speaker 1: to Joe Flacco's stone age pony guy is going to

1221
01:02:38,080 --> 01:02:40,520
Speaker 1: continue our belief on that front. But if the if,

1222
01:02:40,560 --> 01:02:43,160
Speaker 1: the if the defense like shows up and starts to

1223
01:02:43,240 --> 01:02:45,560
Speaker 1: form into some shape like I can believe in them.

1224
01:02:45,600 --> 01:02:48,160
Speaker 1: Sneaking back into the game didn't come out of nowhere,

1225
01:02:48,240 --> 01:02:54,360
Speaker 1: though the defense has played well for three weeks season.

1226
01:02:54,440 --> 01:02:59,440
Speaker 1: Over the guy, there's something to if you're a Dolphins

1227
01:02:59,480 --> 01:03:01,360
Speaker 1: fan to hang on too. I think the offensive line

1228
01:03:01,440 --> 01:03:03,520
Speaker 1: is going to be so bad that's going to prevent

1229
01:03:03,880 --> 01:03:07,960
Speaker 1: a playoff push the game before the defend against the Texans,

1230
01:03:08,040 --> 01:03:10,560
Speaker 1: so I s, but they gave Taylor the worst game

1231
01:03:10,600 --> 01:03:12,960
Speaker 1: of his career, they gave Josh Allen a lot of problems,

1232
01:03:13,240 --> 01:03:15,360
Speaker 1: and they gave an m V pekin at Lamar Jackson.

1233
01:03:15,480 --> 01:03:18,400
Speaker 1: So that you feel good about you're gonna be against Flacco,

1234
01:03:18,520 --> 01:03:20,800
Speaker 1: who they say they want because he's a veteran who's

1235
01:03:20,840 --> 01:03:23,520
Speaker 1: like seeing these types of defenses. Faca also got shut

1236
01:03:23,600 --> 01:03:26,760
Speaker 1: out against his defense last year as a member of

1237
01:03:26,800 --> 01:03:29,680
Speaker 1: the Jets. Don't get it. I really liked what Robert

1238
01:03:29,720 --> 01:03:33,560
Speaker 1: Salas said about how Jets fans flipped so quick or

1239
01:03:33,680 --> 01:03:36,959
Speaker 1: Jets media from like maybe this guy is the next Romo,

1240
01:03:37,080 --> 01:03:39,480
Speaker 1: that too, we never want to see him again. It's

1241
01:03:39,520 --> 01:03:42,720
Speaker 1: somewhere in between. I would have liked to see he

1242
01:03:42,920 --> 01:03:48,360
Speaker 1: said that on Monday exactly. That was on Monday. He

1243
01:03:48,720 --> 01:03:50,960
Speaker 1: wasn't calling out the fit, but he said, you know

1244
01:03:51,520 --> 01:03:54,240
Speaker 1: that he deserved better, And I thought so too Mike

1245
01:03:54,320 --> 01:03:58,120
Speaker 1: White because like you know, how many quarterbacks even this year,

1246
01:03:58,240 --> 01:04:00,920
Speaker 1: Sean McDermott has made look tara and Mike White looked

1247
01:04:01,000 --> 01:04:02,400
Speaker 1: terrible in that game. But I would have liked to

1248
01:04:02,440 --> 01:04:05,680
Speaker 1: see another game from him instead of Joe Flacco. At

1249
01:04:05,760 --> 01:04:07,880
Speaker 1: least find out if, like Mike White's a long term

1250
01:04:07,920 --> 01:04:10,920
Speaker 1: backup or a long term guy, you could use that part.

1251
01:04:11,000 --> 01:04:13,680
Speaker 1: I think the dark truth of it is, and this

1252
01:04:13,880 --> 01:04:15,360
Speaker 1: is you can put it all on the Jets or

1253
01:04:15,480 --> 01:04:17,800
Speaker 1: this is sometimes the way the business works is they

1254
01:04:17,840 --> 01:04:21,120
Speaker 1: traded for Joe Flacco. They gave up some assets to

1255
01:04:21,200 --> 01:04:23,640
Speaker 1: get Joe Flacco, so we're gonna use them. They probably

1256
01:04:23,680 --> 01:04:26,240
Speaker 1: told him he's gonna play. He said that, so that

1257
01:04:26,520 --> 01:04:28,520
Speaker 1: I think that maybe play a role, and you know,

1258
01:04:28,680 --> 01:04:31,760
Speaker 1: and people and people have their fun in the mentions

1259
01:04:32,080 --> 01:04:34,040
Speaker 1: with the old zeuser when the Jets are, you know,

1260
01:04:34,280 --> 01:04:36,480
Speaker 1: going up in flames, and they certainly are right now.

1261
01:04:36,920 --> 01:04:38,800
Speaker 1: But it's like, if you're coming at me, like trying

1262
01:04:38,880 --> 01:04:41,000
Speaker 1: to dunk on me on Twitter yesterday, I can't believe

1263
01:04:41,120 --> 01:04:44,680
Speaker 1: you're starting Joe Flacco. It doesn't matter, It doesn't matter.

1264
01:04:44,760 --> 01:04:47,080
Speaker 1: Why should it matter to me or any other Jet

1265
01:04:47,160 --> 01:04:49,800
Speaker 1: fan which one of these guys starts. The only thing

1266
01:04:49,840 --> 01:04:51,840
Speaker 1: that would concern me because I couldn't agree more. I mean,

1267
01:04:51,920 --> 01:04:54,800
Speaker 1: Jets fans like watching New Jersey Devil's hockey at this point.

1268
01:04:54,880 --> 01:04:59,840
Speaker 1: But um, if the Devils, I don't know, it's depressing organization,

1269
01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:04,280
Speaker 1: I think, But um, like if if the championship organization Now,

1270
01:05:04,320 --> 01:05:08,240
Speaker 1: although they go coaches, the coaches were basically told by

1271
01:05:08,280 --> 01:05:11,120
Speaker 1: the front office, like you have to start Flacco. I

1272
01:05:11,160 --> 01:05:16,040
Speaker 1: don't know. I doubt it. Seem that was just like

1273
01:05:17,920 --> 01:05:20,560
Speaker 1: developing some of these young players. That's the been the

1274
01:05:20,640 --> 01:05:22,680
Speaker 1: biggest disappointment of the Jet season. It's so many of

1275
01:05:22,720 --> 01:05:26,360
Speaker 1: their core pieces either got hurt or are underperforming, like

1276
01:05:26,440 --> 01:05:29,680
Speaker 1: Quentin Williams. At least Elijah More, who you asked to

1277
01:05:29,880 --> 01:05:33,000
Speaker 1: start showing up past, started showing up and that he's

1278
01:05:33,000 --> 01:05:35,280
Speaker 1: gonna he's gonna be good. Elijah More, he really is.

1279
01:05:35,360 --> 01:05:37,960
Speaker 1: And I think they're young running back. Uh. They have

1280
01:05:38,120 --> 01:05:41,440
Speaker 1: multiple guys with the same name. Um blanking on the

1281
01:05:41,520 --> 01:05:44,880
Speaker 1: name right now, Michael Michael Carter. He is Uh. I

1282
01:05:44,960 --> 01:05:47,800
Speaker 1: think he is a player, But get back to me

1283
01:05:47,840 --> 01:05:49,880
Speaker 1: when Zack Wilson is the quarterback. Let's see if the

1284
01:05:49,920 --> 01:05:51,920
Speaker 1: Dolphins can stack wins. There's a good chance that Dolphins

1285
01:05:52,000 --> 01:05:54,360
Speaker 1: could get two weeks sixteen at six and eight, which

1286
01:05:54,400 --> 01:05:56,840
Speaker 1: still puts them, you know, in a bad spot, but

1287
01:05:56,960 --> 01:05:59,880
Speaker 1: they should win three or four unless they really truly stink,

1288
01:06:00,000 --> 01:06:03,040
Speaker 1: and maybe they do. All right, Up next is Mark

1289
01:06:03,400 --> 01:06:06,960
Speaker 1: all Right, I'm gonna go Baltimore at Chicago one p m. Eastern. Start.

1290
01:06:07,960 --> 01:06:10,480
Speaker 1: I just want to see what both these teams do

1291
01:06:10,640 --> 01:06:12,680
Speaker 1: after the last time we saw them. We just mentioned

1292
01:06:12,720 --> 01:06:15,000
Speaker 1: what happened to Baltimore. That has to be one of

1293
01:06:15,040 --> 01:06:18,720
Speaker 1: the most surprising results of the year and the Bears. Yes,

1294
01:06:18,800 --> 01:06:20,400
Speaker 1: they haven't won a game and over a month. And

1295
01:06:20,720 --> 01:06:22,680
Speaker 1: let's not even talk about the whole matten Age thing,

1296
01:06:22,800 --> 01:06:25,800
Speaker 1: which we've hit a thousand times. It's all about Justin Fields.

1297
01:06:26,400 --> 01:06:29,000
Speaker 1: He was so watchable against the Steelers and it's almost

1298
01:06:29,040 --> 01:06:32,480
Speaker 1: maybe even like despite the coaching or despite some of

1299
01:06:32,520 --> 01:06:35,360
Speaker 1: the things around him, but I really want to just

1300
01:06:35,480 --> 01:06:37,440
Speaker 1: watch his trajectory over the rest of the season. And

1301
01:06:37,480 --> 01:06:40,520
Speaker 1: this Baltimore defense, like, I think maybe this is me,

1302
01:06:40,680 --> 01:06:42,560
Speaker 1: but just because they've been good since I was like

1303
01:06:43,160 --> 01:06:45,720
Speaker 1: a youth, I always just assume their defense is good.

1304
01:06:45,720 --> 01:06:48,200
Speaker 1: There twenty five and d v o A their bottom

1305
01:06:48,280 --> 01:06:51,640
Speaker 1: seven in sacks. They have been plagued by miss tackles

1306
01:06:51,680 --> 01:06:54,919
Speaker 1: throughout the year. They are one of the bigger play

1307
01:06:55,000 --> 01:06:58,600
Speaker 1: allowing defenses around and I think there's an opportunity for

1308
01:06:58,680 --> 01:07:01,160
Speaker 1: Justin Fields to continue to have success here. They've got

1309
01:07:01,200 --> 01:07:03,480
Speaker 1: a good ground game as well. We'll see. I think

1310
01:07:03,520 --> 01:07:05,880
Speaker 1: the Ravens have a lot to answer for after being

1311
01:07:05,920 --> 01:07:09,000
Speaker 1: totally embarrassed. Talk about a coaching staff that has to

1312
01:07:09,120 --> 01:07:12,680
Speaker 1: have to go away and figure out what went wrong. Yeah, offensively,

1313
01:07:12,840 --> 01:07:15,800
Speaker 1: that was crazy that they couldn't come up with something

1314
01:07:15,920 --> 01:07:19,160
Speaker 1: during that game. I'm not that worried about them long term,

1315
01:07:19,240 --> 01:07:23,360
Speaker 1: but the defensive points you make are really smart because

1316
01:07:24,520 --> 01:07:27,680
Speaker 1: they usually improve as the season goes along. This Ravens

1317
01:07:27,720 --> 01:07:30,680
Speaker 1: defense like they'll figure out where their flaws are. But

1318
01:07:30,800 --> 01:07:33,200
Speaker 1: they've kind of gotten worse over the course of this season,

1319
01:07:33,240 --> 01:07:35,680
Speaker 1: at least so far. So you wonder if Winks gonna

1320
01:07:35,760 --> 01:07:37,760
Speaker 1: Wink Martindale is gonna come up with stuff. He's facing

1321
01:07:37,800 --> 01:07:39,520
Speaker 1: a lot of heat in Baltimore where people like want

1322
01:07:39,520 --> 01:07:42,040
Speaker 1: to get rid of him. I'm really surprised about that.

1323
01:07:42,240 --> 01:07:44,720
Speaker 1: This normally would be a spot where you think, Wink

1324
01:07:44,800 --> 01:07:49,120
Speaker 1: Martindale against a rookie quarterback, he's gonna send a lot

1325
01:07:49,200 --> 01:07:51,640
Speaker 1: of blitz is he's gonna be aggressive in Justin Fields

1326
01:07:51,960 --> 01:07:54,000
Speaker 1: could be in for a long day. But when you

1327
01:07:54,080 --> 01:07:56,480
Speaker 1: look at how good Fields is throwing the ball down

1328
01:07:56,520 --> 01:08:00,440
Speaker 1: the field, that's it's a risky strategy against Justin annoying

1329
01:08:00,760 --> 01:08:03,080
Speaker 1: that even like I got stuck. I'm sure we're writing

1330
01:08:03,120 --> 01:08:06,480
Speaker 1: a sentence about Justin Fields this week where you have

1331
01:08:06,600 --> 01:08:09,840
Speaker 1: to come up with new words for field, like the

1332
01:08:09,920 --> 01:08:12,400
Speaker 1: actual field he's playing on the pitch you could throw

1333
01:08:12,440 --> 01:08:15,360
Speaker 1: out there now that is I mean it's gonna the yard.

1334
01:08:16,080 --> 01:08:20,640
Speaker 1: That's evenly, it's even sort of more si iron I

1335
01:08:20,680 --> 01:08:22,519
Speaker 1: just to raise the sentence and so that one before

1336
01:08:22,560 --> 01:08:25,120
Speaker 1: and after made no sense when clicked together. That's like

1337
01:08:25,200 --> 01:08:27,680
Speaker 1: it's like when you call the quarterback the signal, callum, Well,

1338
01:08:28,000 --> 01:08:30,599
Speaker 1: you know that's even how they're not they're not really

1339
01:08:30,720 --> 01:08:34,919
Speaker 1: calling uh the signals. I guess with this game, Chicago

1340
01:08:35,040 --> 01:08:39,479
Speaker 1: does not ignite my imagination. Uh. Alan Robinson came out

1341
01:08:39,560 --> 01:08:41,280
Speaker 1: of the bye week and got hurt, which is always

1342
01:08:41,320 --> 01:08:43,880
Speaker 1: a great thing. So he's he's a questionable for this game.

1343
01:08:43,880 --> 01:08:46,320
Speaker 1: I think it's a hamstring. Cleo Mack and Eddie Jackson

1344
01:08:46,360 --> 01:08:48,760
Speaker 1: are both back there, so that's good. I get. If

1345
01:08:48,800 --> 01:08:51,559
Speaker 1: I'm looking at like what matters in this game, it's

1346
01:08:51,640 --> 01:08:55,920
Speaker 1: does Chicago try to follow that Miami blueprint blitz in

1347
01:08:55,960 --> 01:09:00,120
Speaker 1: the house and daring um the Baltimore offensive line to

1348
01:09:00,479 --> 01:09:03,160
Speaker 1: pick it up and for Lamar Jackson to make the throws.

1349
01:09:03,240 --> 01:09:06,880
Speaker 1: Philip Rivers got a little zinger in at uh I

1350
01:09:07,040 --> 01:09:10,679
Speaker 1: thought Lamar and maybe some other people from his past

1351
01:09:11,520 --> 01:09:14,599
Speaker 1: on the Manning cast when he pointed out what Eli

1352
01:09:14,680 --> 01:09:16,800
Speaker 1: did to win a Super Bowl. You just gotta run

1353
01:09:16,840 --> 01:09:19,640
Speaker 1: the slugo you could beat this, You could beat that

1354
01:09:19,720 --> 01:09:21,920
Speaker 1: type of defense. You just have a quarter I have

1355
01:09:21,960 --> 01:09:24,040
Speaker 1: to have a quarterback that can do it. Uh So,

1356
01:09:24,240 --> 01:09:26,040
Speaker 1: if Lamar is a stud, and I think he is,

1357
01:09:26,160 --> 01:09:28,800
Speaker 1: they should be able to adjust. I think Baltimore rolls here.

1358
01:09:29,320 --> 01:09:32,519
Speaker 1: I do think it's important to note lamartin practice Wednesday

1359
01:09:32,640 --> 01:09:35,880
Speaker 1: or Thursday with an illness, a non COVID illness. It's

1360
01:09:35,920 --> 01:09:38,439
Speaker 1: the third time this year he's missed significant practice time

1361
01:09:38,520 --> 01:09:43,600
Speaker 1: with illnesses, and his two top receivers, Marquis Brown and

1362
01:09:43,720 --> 01:09:46,599
Speaker 1: Rasad Bateman, are also out of practice one it's unclear

1363
01:09:46,680 --> 01:09:50,360
Speaker 1: why Bateman with an injury. So that you know just

1364
01:09:50,720 --> 01:09:53,160
Speaker 1: I think I would expect Lamar to play. I would

1365
01:09:53,160 --> 01:09:56,240
Speaker 1: expect Lamar to play, but if he doesn't have those receivers,

1366
01:09:56,600 --> 01:09:58,719
Speaker 1: slat out released Levy on Bell, I mean that guy's

1367
01:09:58,800 --> 01:10:01,880
Speaker 1: career see you later. Oh no, we have all right.

1368
01:10:01,880 --> 01:10:06,519
Speaker 1: I have some breaking news here. It's not sad that

1369
01:10:07,439 --> 01:10:10,120
Speaker 1: just like one of the most entertaining running backs in

1370
01:10:10,320 --> 01:10:17,720
Speaker 1: NFL hist Oh, what a unique runner um. This from

1371
01:10:17,760 --> 01:10:21,080
Speaker 1: the Tampa Bay Times, Bucks receiver an Tonio Brown obtained

1372
01:10:21,120 --> 01:10:26,120
Speaker 1: a fake COVID nineteen vaccination card to avoid NFL protocols.

1373
01:10:26,479 --> 01:10:30,640
Speaker 1: According to his former livin chef, I mean it's you

1374
01:10:30,680 --> 01:10:33,560
Speaker 1: guys used to get on me for this developing newsworthy.

1375
01:10:33,840 --> 01:10:36,240
Speaker 1: First of all, the living chef is the pretty good

1376
01:10:36,320 --> 01:10:39,439
Speaker 1: and we don't even know if doing anything about Tampa

1377
01:10:39,479 --> 01:10:42,280
Speaker 1: Bay Times is a reputable Wait a second, this is newsworthy.

1378
01:10:42,360 --> 01:10:45,439
Speaker 1: This is an important player on the defending champion Bucks.

1379
01:10:45,920 --> 01:10:49,439
Speaker 1: And we saw the hulla bloo with Aaron Rodgers. Well

1380
01:10:49,640 --> 01:10:51,960
Speaker 1: here's a fake COVID nineteen. I think this happened in

1381
01:10:52,000 --> 01:10:55,040
Speaker 1: the uh NHL storry to bring up the NHL again,

1382
01:10:55,080 --> 01:10:58,040
Speaker 1: mark your new Jersey Devils. That cut pretty deep, like

1383
01:10:58,160 --> 01:11:00,640
Speaker 1: hated that trap defense they had back in the night.

1384
01:11:01,400 --> 01:11:04,160
Speaker 1: Two times two times is the absolute maximum limit. Do

1385
01:11:04,240 --> 01:11:07,599
Speaker 1: not again the fake COVID card. So that that's just interesting.

1386
01:11:07,680 --> 01:11:10,759
Speaker 1: That just came across the old could lead to something. Howood?

1387
01:11:10,760 --> 01:11:13,160
Speaker 1: Watch now he could get suspended. He's been hurt, but

1388
01:11:13,320 --> 01:11:15,400
Speaker 1: that that could that could be a problem for him.

1389
01:11:16,280 --> 01:11:19,800
Speaker 1: All right, let's see that was that? That was that game?

1390
01:11:19,920 --> 01:11:22,560
Speaker 1: Now Greg closed out the draft police, sir, Wow my,

1391
01:11:22,840 --> 01:11:25,680
Speaker 1: what was gonna be my first overall draft pick all

1392
01:11:25,760 --> 01:11:29,080
Speaker 1: weeks still available? I guess I gotta take it. It's

1393
01:11:29,120 --> 01:11:34,439
Speaker 1: Saint Eagles. It's good game. Just expected more the action

1394
01:11:34,560 --> 01:11:39,680
Speaker 1: from you guys. I mean maybe, but I gotta you know,

1395
01:11:39,840 --> 01:11:43,920
Speaker 1: I have teams that I enjoy watching. Let's put it

1396
01:11:44,000 --> 01:11:46,000
Speaker 1: this way. They're the only teams I listened to team

1397
01:11:46,080 --> 01:11:49,760
Speaker 1: specific podcast for other than the Patriots, because I am

1398
01:11:49,880 --> 01:11:52,960
Speaker 1: fascinated by these two teams in general. I always kind

1399
01:11:52,960 --> 01:11:54,840
Speaker 1: of lean for these teams, and these versions of these

1400
01:11:54,880 --> 01:11:58,000
Speaker 1: teams are very interesting to me. That Jalen Hurts has

1401
01:11:58,120 --> 01:12:02,320
Speaker 1: really turned into one of the best running quarterbacks that

1402
01:12:02,479 --> 01:12:05,040
Speaker 1: we've seen. Certainly him and Lamar are the best too

1403
01:12:05,160 --> 01:12:08,559
Speaker 1: right now. Uh, And they've built the offense finally around him.

1404
01:12:08,600 --> 01:12:11,320
Speaker 1: It's kind of taken a minute, but it it's worked

1405
01:12:11,360 --> 01:12:15,160
Speaker 1: against defenses like the Chargers, the Broncos, and the Lions,

1406
01:12:15,160 --> 01:12:17,519
Speaker 1: who are three of the very worst that's stopping the run.

1407
01:12:17,800 --> 01:12:20,160
Speaker 1: And now you've got to play the Saints. And I

1408
01:12:20,320 --> 01:12:22,840
Speaker 1: just was amazed that the Eagles are favored in this

1409
01:12:23,040 --> 01:12:26,240
Speaker 1: game with all the Saints have accomplished and shown this year,

1410
01:12:26,560 --> 01:12:29,639
Speaker 1: the toughness that they've shown, Like show me the really

1411
01:12:29,760 --> 01:12:32,639
Speaker 1: bad Saints performance even when you're losing to the Falcons,

1412
01:12:32,680 --> 01:12:35,400
Speaker 1: Like you watch that game and I guess I believe

1413
01:12:35,439 --> 01:12:37,000
Speaker 1: in this Saints team, and I definitely believe in the

1414
01:12:37,160 --> 01:12:41,120
Speaker 1: run defense. Marcus Davenport, who I've always enjoyed watching, who

1415
01:12:41,240 --> 01:12:43,960
Speaker 1: just throws guys around, is having his best season. And

1416
01:12:44,160 --> 01:12:48,280
Speaker 1: Cameron Jordans are probably the two best edge setters, run

1417
01:12:48,479 --> 01:12:51,680
Speaker 1: stopping defensive ends. You're healthy up front. I think it's

1418
01:12:51,720 --> 01:12:54,200
Speaker 1: gonna be hard to run against this team, and I

1419
01:12:54,320 --> 01:12:56,280
Speaker 1: think that's gonna make it tough for the Eagles to

1420
01:12:56,320 --> 01:12:59,320
Speaker 1: win this game. They have five guys ranked in the

1421
01:12:59,400 --> 01:13:01,639
Speaker 1: top ten at the position on defense, and it's it's

1422
01:13:01,680 --> 01:13:05,559
Speaker 1: who you mentioned, It's Damario Davis, p J. Williams, It's

1423
01:13:05,760 --> 01:13:09,200
Speaker 1: I Love, I Love is there or Marcus Williams. I'm

1424
01:13:09,240 --> 01:13:12,080
Speaker 1: wondering who's there. It's You've got Damario Davis, Marcus Williams,

1425
01:13:12,120 --> 01:13:15,640
Speaker 1: p J Williams, Marcus Davenport, and I believe it's a

1426
01:13:15,640 --> 01:13:19,000
Speaker 1: Lottimore and they'll they're watching that game last week though.

1427
01:13:19,080 --> 01:13:21,040
Speaker 1: The one thing, and this is why I think Sean

1428
01:13:21,080 --> 01:13:23,320
Speaker 1: Payton and He's not gonna win it because the record

1429
01:13:23,360 --> 01:13:24,840
Speaker 1: won't be good enough. It's not how it works, like

1430
01:13:25,320 --> 01:13:26,720
Speaker 1: is my coach of the year in a lot of

1431
01:13:26,760 --> 01:13:30,120
Speaker 1: different ways because he is coaching a team that, like

1432
01:13:30,200 --> 01:13:32,280
Speaker 1: You've got Trevor Simmon at quarterback, who I think does

1433
01:13:32,479 --> 01:13:34,800
Speaker 1: has done some good things like mark Ingram stepped in

1434
01:13:34,840 --> 01:13:37,479
Speaker 1: at the right time, but they have such a small

1435
01:13:37,600 --> 01:13:40,000
Speaker 1: margin for air, like last week that fumbled kick off,

1436
01:13:40,520 --> 01:13:43,360
Speaker 1: like Adam Troutman having the false start on the two

1437
01:13:43,479 --> 01:13:46,000
Speaker 1: point conversion being wide open on a shot. I know

1438
01:13:46,120 --> 01:13:48,519
Speaker 1: that Saints fans are super annoyed with him missing two

1439
01:13:48,600 --> 01:13:50,479
Speaker 1: p e T s. You would have won that game.

1440
01:13:50,920 --> 01:13:55,120
Speaker 1: You forget about the bogus passing call as well, but

1441
01:13:55,160 --> 01:13:57,599
Speaker 1: I'm even talking about what the players are actually doing.

1442
01:13:57,680 --> 01:14:00,920
Speaker 1: It's like these little mistakes. The margin for error is

1443
01:14:00,960 --> 01:14:03,479
Speaker 1: so small and there he's coaching the hell out of

1444
01:14:03,520 --> 01:14:09,040
Speaker 1: They hit though. Man, they are physical physic they really

1445
01:14:09,080 --> 01:14:10,920
Speaker 1: I think, you know, I think seven times out of

1446
01:14:10,960 --> 01:14:13,839
Speaker 1: ten they probably win that game last week against the Titans.

1447
01:14:13,880 --> 01:14:15,800
Speaker 1: I think the Saints are gonna be okay. But if

1448
01:14:15,800 --> 01:14:19,880
Speaker 1: Sean Payton Princeton's is gonna get serious coach of the consideration,

1449
01:14:20,280 --> 01:14:21,879
Speaker 1: they're gonna have to find a way to the playoff.

1450
01:14:21,880 --> 01:14:25,040
Speaker 1: He's not. I just think that he's another coach. I'm

1451
01:14:25,080 --> 01:14:27,240
Speaker 1: with the other coaching staff. They'd have two wins. I'm

1452
01:14:27,280 --> 01:14:30,880
Speaker 1: with you the fact that Trevor Simeon has not been

1453
01:14:30,920 --> 01:14:35,280
Speaker 1: a downgrade. And I can hear less like making fun

1454
01:14:35,360 --> 01:14:37,439
Speaker 1: of me now because he always was annoyed how I

1455
01:14:37,520 --> 01:14:40,000
Speaker 1: believed in Trevor Simeon and it the wheels fell off

1456
01:14:40,040 --> 01:14:41,800
Speaker 1: after a nice start with the Broncos when he was

1457
01:14:41,840 --> 01:14:45,680
Speaker 1: a starter. But in these two starts, Trevor Simeon has

1458
01:14:45,760 --> 01:14:47,880
Speaker 1: not been a downgrade from Jamis Winston. I think the

1459
01:14:47,960 --> 01:14:50,800
Speaker 1: offense has looked pretty good. If anything, I think he's

1460
01:14:51,400 --> 01:14:54,280
Speaker 1: looked a little more on time than Jamis, a little

1461
01:14:54,320 --> 01:14:56,680
Speaker 1: better than like Teddy a couple of years ago, and

1462
01:14:56,920 --> 01:14:59,639
Speaker 1: Taysom they might have something or it's a two game

1463
01:14:59,680 --> 01:15:01,479
Speaker 1: thing of the league figures him out this week and

1464
01:15:01,520 --> 01:15:04,720
Speaker 1: I look stupid, man, They don't. Antonio Brown, like I

1465
01:15:04,760 --> 01:15:07,479
Speaker 1: has a knucklehead. Who would have thought he is not

1466
01:15:07,760 --> 01:15:12,200
Speaker 1: he has got it all together, He's a fool. Well,

1467
01:15:12,240 --> 01:15:14,439
Speaker 1: I think there's more. There's a lot to be there's

1468
01:15:14,479 --> 01:15:16,400
Speaker 1: other things going on that we don't know about with him.

1469
01:15:16,400 --> 01:15:18,040
Speaker 1: So I don't I don't know. I don't do you

1470
01:15:18,640 --> 01:15:21,880
Speaker 1: care for a defense of Antonio Brown at this time.

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01:15:22,479 --> 01:15:24,400
Speaker 1: I'm just saying I think that there have been like

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01:15:24,640 --> 01:15:26,800
Speaker 1: there he seems to face some demons, so I'm not

1473
01:15:26,880 --> 01:15:30,800
Speaker 1: sure what what that is like for him. Um, I

1474
01:15:30,840 --> 01:15:32,960
Speaker 1: mean not. I mean, it's not the most entertaining part

1475
01:15:33,000 --> 01:15:34,880
Speaker 1: of the conversation we've had during the show, but we

1476
01:15:35,880 --> 01:15:38,599
Speaker 1: I just wanted to Greg. Greg's just a thousand miles

1477
01:15:38,640 --> 01:15:41,639
Speaker 1: away when we get to that topic. I just candle out.

1478
01:15:41,640 --> 01:15:43,720
Speaker 1: I was hoping Dan was on the same page as me,

1479
01:15:43,880 --> 01:15:47,320
Speaker 1: which is just stay totally silent and let Mark keep

1480
01:15:49,200 --> 01:15:51,280
Speaker 1: I know. But I like, I just I'm saying I'm

1481
01:15:51,280 --> 01:15:53,760
Speaker 1: not trying to sound flip or anything. That's all. I

1482
01:15:53,800 --> 01:15:55,960
Speaker 1: don't know. He's starting to go down a hashtag free

1483
01:15:55,960 --> 01:15:58,840
Speaker 1: Antonio Brown. I was like, I'm just gonna get out

1484
01:15:58,840 --> 01:16:00,160
Speaker 1: of the way. I'm gonna open up the run way.

1485
01:16:00,240 --> 01:16:01,880
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not doing any of those things. Like,

1486
01:16:03,320 --> 01:16:06,240
Speaker 1: first of all, how hard you know to get caught,

1487
01:16:06,400 --> 01:16:08,559
Speaker 1: you know, getting a fakes VAX card. It just doesn't

1488
01:16:08,600 --> 01:16:10,639
Speaker 1: look like that hard of a card to to fake.

1489
01:16:10,760 --> 01:16:13,000
Speaker 1: I guess what you have to be is a jerk

1490
01:16:13,320 --> 01:16:15,920
Speaker 1: who annoys someone in your life to the point that

1491
01:16:16,120 --> 01:16:18,920
Speaker 1: they reveal you for being who you are. And that's

1492
01:16:18,960 --> 01:16:22,519
Speaker 1: happened a lot with Antonio. This from Adam Beasley. Beasley,

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01:16:22,560 --> 01:16:24,720
Speaker 1: I know he is at the Miami Herald. No, now

1494
01:16:24,800 --> 01:16:28,360
Speaker 1: he's at the Pro Football Network. Um. The word in

1495
01:16:28,479 --> 01:16:32,000
Speaker 1: Florida football circles is Antonio Brown offered his vax card

1496
01:16:32,040 --> 01:16:34,200
Speaker 1: hook up to others in the NFL community. That's how

1497
01:16:34,280 --> 01:16:37,000
Speaker 1: I first heard about this. Well, that whole part of

1498
01:16:37,040 --> 01:16:40,559
Speaker 1: it is utterly absurd. I don't. I mean, what's who's

1499
01:16:40,600 --> 01:16:43,280
Speaker 1: his vax card hook up? Like a sixteen year old

1500
01:16:44,479 --> 01:16:46,800
Speaker 1: out a fake idea? Did you guys get a fake idea?

1501
01:16:46,840 --> 01:16:48,639
Speaker 1: You could just get one of those pieces of paper

1502
01:16:48,720 --> 01:16:51,200
Speaker 1: from CBS if you wanted, and you create fake ones.

1503
01:16:51,320 --> 01:16:54,400
Speaker 1: Or you can just get the vaccine. Just that's another option.

1504
01:16:54,680 --> 01:16:59,519
Speaker 1: It absolutely is that I got my booster and I

1505
01:16:59,600 --> 01:17:02,360
Speaker 1: got that. Fights are flowing through my blood today. I

1506
01:17:02,439 --> 01:17:05,320
Speaker 1: feel strong. Do you feel good? Oh yeah, I'm I'm

1507
01:17:05,320 --> 01:17:08,800
Speaker 1: gonna destroy people. How about you? Mark? Did you get

1508
01:17:08,840 --> 01:17:11,200
Speaker 1: your booster yet? It's in It's in the mail. I

1509
01:17:11,280 --> 01:17:13,760
Speaker 1: got my flu shot yesterday and I'm feeling a little

1510
01:17:13,800 --> 01:17:16,920
Speaker 1: bit now, meaning like the action is in the mail.

1511
01:17:16,920 --> 01:17:18,600
Speaker 1: I have a schedule. I was going to do it

1512
01:17:18,720 --> 01:17:20,680
Speaker 1: the other day. I was going to do it the

1513
01:17:20,760 --> 01:17:24,640
Speaker 1: other day. And this very show interrupted my schedule, So

1514
01:17:24,960 --> 01:17:26,880
Speaker 1: don't come at me. I'm sorry. I mean we tape

1515
01:17:26,920 --> 01:17:29,759
Speaker 1: at the same time as every week. We didn't last time. Alright,

1516
01:17:29,800 --> 01:17:31,920
Speaker 1: one more break and then we'll finish up the show.

1517
01:17:34,479 --> 01:17:37,479
Speaker 1: All right, let's get Uh. That's another coin flip game.

1518
01:17:37,520 --> 01:17:39,000
Speaker 1: This is a great week. This is a great week

1519
01:17:39,040 --> 01:17:41,120
Speaker 1: of games. I feel very confident we're gonna be talking

1520
01:17:41,160 --> 01:17:44,479
Speaker 1: about some bangers come Sunday night. There's the Kiss of Death. Alright,

1521
01:17:44,520 --> 01:17:46,439
Speaker 1: the rest of the games. Can't believe this wasn't drafted.

1522
01:17:46,479 --> 01:17:49,240
Speaker 1: It's kind of my fault because I took that Dolphins

1523
01:17:49,320 --> 01:17:52,320
Speaker 1: Jets game. Otherwise, Colts Bills, Yeah, this is how is

1524
01:17:52,360 --> 01:17:55,920
Speaker 1: This should have been drafted. Um, because it's an important game,

1525
01:17:56,080 --> 01:17:59,280
Speaker 1: has big ratifications in the a f C. The Colts

1526
01:17:59,360 --> 01:18:01,479
Speaker 1: now five and five. Anybody check out the Hard Knocks

1527
01:18:01,600 --> 01:18:06,559
Speaker 1: in season No, I mean I've seen our friend Zach

1528
01:18:06,640 --> 01:18:09,400
Speaker 1: Kieffer was tweeting about it. Um, so it's been watched

1529
01:18:09,400 --> 01:18:11,639
Speaker 1: by at least one person. I watched first fifteen minutes.

1530
01:18:11,720 --> 01:18:16,000
Speaker 1: It's uh. I was enjoying it. Uh, then got sidetracked. Anyway,

1531
01:18:16,120 --> 01:18:21,880
Speaker 1: Colts at Bills from high Mark Stadium, Oh not at

1532
01:18:21,920 --> 01:18:25,920
Speaker 1: all or I remember back in the day we we

1533
01:18:26,000 --> 01:18:28,479
Speaker 1: came up with names suggestions, and I suggested the MARV,

1534
01:18:28,600 --> 01:18:31,360
Speaker 1: after Marv Leavy. But there's no money attached to that.

1535
01:18:31,600 --> 01:18:33,840
Speaker 1: From the mar well, don't tell Bill play we can

1536
01:18:33,920 --> 01:18:37,799
Speaker 1: get him emotional again. Um, from the Marv. The Bills

1537
01:18:37,920 --> 01:18:39,840
Speaker 1: six and three, And this is a good one. I

1538
01:18:39,960 --> 01:18:43,439
Speaker 1: like this one because here's the thing. Uh, when the

1539
01:18:43,600 --> 01:18:48,240
Speaker 1: Bills light up the Jets defense that has been historically

1540
01:18:48,400 --> 01:18:51,080
Speaker 1: terrible for about a month and a half. Now, Um,

1541
01:18:51,360 --> 01:18:54,240
Speaker 1: I say, good, that's a nice, get right game for Buffalo.

1542
01:18:54,520 --> 01:18:58,440
Speaker 1: But it does it totally alleviate any concerns about Buffalo's

1543
01:18:58,479 --> 01:19:00,680
Speaker 1: offense going forward. No, I still to see them put

1544
01:19:00,760 --> 01:19:03,880
Speaker 1: together a couple of games where they look like the

1545
01:19:03,960 --> 01:19:07,320
Speaker 1: Bills of last year. So here's an opportunity. It doesn't

1546
01:19:07,360 --> 01:19:09,639
Speaker 1: matter that's at home, I guess, but it is at home.

1547
01:19:10,000 --> 01:19:13,800
Speaker 1: It's against the Colts, who this is a big turning

1548
01:19:13,840 --> 01:19:16,920
Speaker 1: point for their season from some places matter. What about

1549
01:19:16,920 --> 01:19:19,320
Speaker 1: when you're a dome team visiting like Western New York

1550
01:19:19,400 --> 01:19:22,439
Speaker 1: and a week before Thanksgiving? There you go. This is

1551
01:19:22,479 --> 01:19:24,840
Speaker 1: an important game for the Colts, who finally reset their

1552
01:19:24,840 --> 01:19:27,080
Speaker 1: season at five and five, And if they ever found

1553
01:19:27,080 --> 01:19:29,400
Speaker 1: a way to be Buffalo, the supposed best team in

1554
01:19:29,400 --> 01:19:32,479
Speaker 1: the ANFC. We're talking a totally different situation here with

1555
01:19:32,560 --> 01:19:36,240
Speaker 1: this conference. Such a big game for Wentz, who has

1556
01:19:36,320 --> 01:19:39,519
Speaker 1: avoided turnovers this year for the most part, despite making

1557
01:19:39,640 --> 01:19:42,479
Speaker 1: some of the worst decisions ever, including last week a

1558
01:19:42,600 --> 01:19:46,360
Speaker 1: left handed pass, a flip pass where he's like running

1559
01:19:46,400 --> 01:19:49,040
Speaker 1: to his left. These two teams lead the NFL and

1560
01:19:49,120 --> 01:19:53,240
Speaker 1: turnover differential. The Bills are number one, the Colts are two.

1561
01:19:53,840 --> 01:19:56,280
Speaker 1: So to me, it's a big test for both quarterbacks

1562
01:19:56,360 --> 01:19:59,360
Speaker 1: to kind of avoid the big mistake. Uh. This is

1563
01:19:59,400 --> 01:20:03,040
Speaker 1: a game that Josh Allen played very well in in

1564
01:20:03,120 --> 01:20:06,360
Speaker 1: the playoff win by the Bills last year. It took

1565
01:20:06,720 --> 01:20:08,960
Speaker 1: more or less the best of Josh Allen. I thought

1566
01:20:09,000 --> 01:20:12,200
Speaker 1: in that game to beat a game Philip Rivers. You

1567
01:20:12,320 --> 01:20:14,519
Speaker 1: didn't think I was gonna bring up the Rivers Wentz

1568
01:20:14,560 --> 01:20:17,639
Speaker 1: comparison again this year, Dan, But this is the ultimate test.

1569
01:20:17,720 --> 01:20:20,320
Speaker 1: This was the playoff matchup, This is the is win.

1570
01:20:20,760 --> 01:20:22,519
Speaker 1: Do you want to know what the cult would be

1571
01:20:22,600 --> 01:20:27,280
Speaker 1: if Philip Rivers was playing No. Six and four Philip Rivers,

1572
01:20:28,479 --> 01:20:30,880
Speaker 1: he wouldn't have blown that lead. You wouldn't have blown

1573
01:20:30,920 --> 01:20:34,240
Speaker 1: one of those leads. Hey, I thought Wentz was terrible

1574
01:20:34,240 --> 01:20:38,000
Speaker 1: against the Jaguars. Do not if you are a Cults fan.

1575
01:20:38,400 --> 01:20:39,680
Speaker 1: You look at it and he's like, oh, he's got

1576
01:20:39,760 --> 01:20:42,280
Speaker 1: eighteen touchdowns, three picks. And this is coming from a

1577
01:20:42,320 --> 01:20:45,320
Speaker 1: guy that's Wentz apologist on this show. But I look

1578
01:20:45,400 --> 01:20:47,760
Speaker 1: at him and I watched his games, and I know

1579
01:20:47,960 --> 01:20:51,760
Speaker 1: he's been better, and on balance, I think it's been successful. Uh,

1580
01:20:51,840 --> 01:20:55,160
Speaker 1: this move to Wentz this season, but I don't trust them,

1581
01:20:55,400 --> 01:20:58,040
Speaker 1: and this is going to be very difficult. And Mike

1582
01:20:58,120 --> 01:21:02,599
Speaker 1: White is not the NFL version of Jeremy Lynn there.

1583
01:21:03,280 --> 01:21:05,600
Speaker 1: This is not a guy that's a good quarterback necessarily.

1584
01:21:05,680 --> 01:21:09,840
Speaker 1: But they made Mike White so looks so bad in

1585
01:21:09,920 --> 01:21:12,920
Speaker 1: that game, and I think Wentz a who similarly can

1586
01:21:13,000 --> 01:21:16,479
Speaker 1: be flummixed and uh start doing stupid things when under

1587
01:21:16,560 --> 01:21:19,200
Speaker 1: a lot of darrests, And um, yeah, I like the Bill.

1588
01:21:19,520 --> 01:21:22,280
Speaker 1: They need a signature win. And they have beaten the Dolphins,

1589
01:21:22,400 --> 01:21:25,800
Speaker 1: the Texans, the Niners in that hideous monsoon, the Jets

1590
01:21:25,880 --> 01:21:28,040
Speaker 1: that you just mentioned. In the Jaguars, it's like they're

1591
01:21:28,080 --> 01:21:31,280
Speaker 1: also scoring thirty points a game since week Week four. Like,

1592
01:21:31,439 --> 01:21:34,639
Speaker 1: we totally love Jonathan Taylor. This is the week you changed,

1593
01:21:35,439 --> 01:21:37,400
Speaker 1: kind of like they are so something that none of

1594
01:21:37,479 --> 01:21:41,160
Speaker 1: us picked its seven and a half point underdogs. Kind

1595
01:21:41,200 --> 01:21:43,880
Speaker 1: of like the Colts there to keep this close, they

1596
01:21:43,920 --> 01:21:47,439
Speaker 1: don't get blown out. All right, let's move on. This

1597
01:21:47,680 --> 01:21:49,679
Speaker 1: is I don't know if this has ever happened, Lions

1598
01:21:50,479 --> 01:21:54,800
Speaker 1: at Brown's, Brown's undrafted? Uh, Mark, what is this? What's

1599
01:21:54,840 --> 01:21:58,080
Speaker 1: this all about? Well, I'm like I I I need

1600
01:21:58,120 --> 01:22:00,960
Speaker 1: a rest, I need a break. That's just what it

1601
01:22:01,000 --> 01:22:03,840
Speaker 1: boils down to it. This is the This has been

1602
01:22:03,920 --> 01:22:07,800
Speaker 1: one of the worst weeks under a very steady UM

1603
01:22:07,960 --> 01:22:14,160
Speaker 1: regime with Kevin Stefanskin Andrew Berry. I don't well, it

1604
01:22:14,280 --> 01:22:16,040
Speaker 1: might be time for a long one. I mean, I

1605
01:22:16,160 --> 01:22:17,720
Speaker 1: just don't know if I need to deal with this

1606
01:22:17,840 --> 01:22:20,640
Speaker 1: on Sunday. It's is maybe part of it or I

1607
01:22:20,720 --> 01:22:23,519
Speaker 1: ain't that that because shook often as the Browns games

1608
01:22:23,640 --> 01:22:26,920
Speaker 1: are you now? Yeah, but that's never that's never been.

1609
01:22:28,200 --> 01:22:30,760
Speaker 1: I know I know that, I know that UM in

1610
01:22:30,800 --> 01:22:32,800
Speaker 1: the past. I know that shook covering and will be

1611
01:22:33,120 --> 01:22:36,000
Speaker 1: will give us great Browns reporting and great lines reporting.

1612
01:22:36,120 --> 01:22:38,840
Speaker 1: So it's being left in excellent hands. I just if

1613
01:22:39,000 --> 01:22:42,560
Speaker 1: I've hitting a point where I am fed up and

1614
01:22:42,720 --> 01:22:45,080
Speaker 1: the opponent is not bringing me back into the mix

1615
01:22:45,439 --> 01:22:49,360
Speaker 1: like you got good scenario, it's not. It's kind of

1616
01:22:49,400 --> 01:22:51,800
Speaker 1: a no win scenario. It's not there. You win by thirty,

1617
01:22:51,880 --> 01:22:56,000
Speaker 1: that feels good. But if the Detroit running game gets

1618
01:22:56,040 --> 01:22:59,800
Speaker 1: those interior runs going like they did against Pittsburgh that

1619
01:23:00,160 --> 01:23:04,240
Speaker 1: was where New England attacked. They that their whole game

1620
01:23:04,320 --> 01:23:09,080
Speaker 1: plan was like Malik Jackson, Malike McDowell, everyone says that

1621
01:23:09,200 --> 01:23:11,759
Speaker 1: you've got a good defensive line, how about we destroy

1622
01:23:11,880 --> 01:23:14,439
Speaker 1: you and run straight at you? And those guys were

1623
01:23:14,520 --> 01:23:17,000
Speaker 1: washed out in the running game. That the ends weren't

1624
01:23:17,040 --> 01:23:19,760
Speaker 1: great either, but especially in the middle. If Detroit could

1625
01:23:19,800 --> 01:23:26,599
Speaker 1: do anything well with Tim Boyle, season started interesting, it's

1626
01:23:26,640 --> 01:23:29,280
Speaker 1: a no win scenario. This was a lovable game. It's

1627
01:23:29,360 --> 01:23:31,640
Speaker 1: eleven and a half point. I would run to this

1628
01:23:31,760 --> 01:23:34,640
Speaker 1: game because this is all set up for Cleveland to

1629
01:23:34,720 --> 01:23:37,200
Speaker 1: get back on track. You couldn't ask for a better

1630
01:23:37,280 --> 01:23:40,000
Speaker 1: situation for the Browns after a humbling loss last week.

1631
01:23:40,360 --> 01:23:42,400
Speaker 1: And I know Baker's all sorts of banged up. He

1632
01:23:42,479 --> 01:23:44,960
Speaker 1: said it this week that it's his most banged up

1633
01:23:45,000 --> 01:23:47,439
Speaker 1: he's ever been. But you're gonna get Nick Chubb back

1634
01:23:47,880 --> 01:23:50,440
Speaker 1: and in general, like I know the brown has been disappointing,

1635
01:23:50,920 --> 01:23:54,280
Speaker 1: but they're gonna destroy the lines this week. No person

1636
01:23:54,400 --> 01:23:58,240
Speaker 1: on the planet that I know understands needing a respite

1637
01:23:58,640 --> 01:24:03,000
Speaker 1: from your team once in a while when they're bingo.

1638
01:24:03,160 --> 01:24:07,240
Speaker 1: We still are. We're just starting the break. They're five

1639
01:24:07,320 --> 01:24:10,200
Speaker 1: and five, though, I this is not an ongoing break

1640
01:24:10,439 --> 01:24:12,639
Speaker 1: in the past, I would have like full on divorce

1641
01:24:12,720 --> 01:24:14,800
Speaker 1: from the team. I'm not saying that they go into

1642
01:24:14,800 --> 01:24:16,800
Speaker 1: their bye after this then they have the Ravens, or

1643
01:24:16,840 --> 01:24:18,519
Speaker 1: they have the Ravens after this, then a by than

1644
01:24:18,520 --> 01:24:21,200
Speaker 1: the Ravens again, like there are things could get real dark.

1645
01:24:21,320 --> 01:24:22,640
Speaker 1: Let me ask you a question, because we've been doing

1646
01:24:22,680 --> 01:24:26,840
Speaker 1: this podcast since two thousand thirteen, and um, we've both

1647
01:24:26,920 --> 01:24:30,679
Speaker 1: been through very dark times with teams. Now the Browns

1648
01:24:30,960 --> 01:24:33,560
Speaker 1: have gotten to a place of respectability. Is it a

1649
01:24:33,640 --> 01:24:37,720
Speaker 1: more frustrating season in one then say some of those

1650
01:24:37,800 --> 01:24:41,120
Speaker 1: lost seasons in the mid uh two thousand tens. So

1651
01:24:41,400 --> 01:24:43,840
Speaker 1: the five and five is actually a worse fan experience

1652
01:24:44,160 --> 01:24:46,560
Speaker 1: than a one and nine. No, I could never say that.

1653
01:24:46,800 --> 01:24:49,280
Speaker 1: I mean, like, because when you put fans through that,

1654
01:24:49,680 --> 01:24:52,080
Speaker 1: for all these bad teams that we talk about, it's

1655
01:24:52,120 --> 01:24:53,840
Speaker 1: meant to be fun on some level, and they are

1656
01:24:53,960 --> 01:24:57,560
Speaker 1: fun half the time. I just I there's hope, and

1657
01:24:57,640 --> 01:25:00,320
Speaker 1: I honestly think that like this might just be a

1658
01:25:00,439 --> 01:25:02,479
Speaker 1: rough year where a lot of stuff's gone wrong. And

1659
01:25:02,560 --> 01:25:05,759
Speaker 1: on another note, like it's like every week this COVID

1660
01:25:05,840 --> 01:25:08,080
Speaker 1: season is as bad as last year, and every week

1661
01:25:08,360 --> 01:25:11,519
Speaker 1: alterations to games are happening because certain players aren't in there.

1662
01:25:11,560 --> 01:25:14,120
Speaker 1: And I'm a little over that, Like, you know, I'm

1663
01:25:14,160 --> 01:25:16,880
Speaker 1: gonna I'll live through it. I'm not gonna, you know,

1664
01:25:16,920 --> 01:25:18,640
Speaker 1: it's not gonna be the end of my fandom. But

1665
01:25:18,720 --> 01:25:20,880
Speaker 1: it's a bit tiresome two years. It's not as it's

1666
01:25:20,960 --> 01:25:23,280
Speaker 1: not as scary in the sense that most of the

1667
01:25:23,320 --> 01:25:25,400
Speaker 1: players are vaccinated, so when they do go on the

1668
01:25:25,520 --> 01:25:29,280
Speaker 1: COVID list, it's not concerns of a long term illness,

1669
01:25:29,560 --> 01:25:31,519
Speaker 1: just not on the field. But it does for from

1670
01:25:31,560 --> 01:25:34,040
Speaker 1: a football standpoint, it is taking them off the field.

1671
01:25:34,040 --> 01:25:35,840
Speaker 1: Having Nick Chubb last week, by the way, would not

1672
01:25:35,880 --> 01:25:38,360
Speaker 1: have made any difference. I don't think after maybe the

1673
01:25:38,400 --> 01:25:41,720
Speaker 1: first quarter. One one quick thing one that was when

1674
01:25:41,760 --> 01:25:44,479
Speaker 1: I went back to watch the game. One interesting the

1675
01:25:44,520 --> 01:25:47,760
Speaker 1: Paths defense did after that first drive which didn't work,

1676
01:25:47,840 --> 01:25:50,599
Speaker 1: was they just kept their heavy personnel on the whole

1677
01:25:50,640 --> 01:25:55,080
Speaker 1: game like they did, like when it was passing situations,

1678
01:25:55,560 --> 01:25:59,920
Speaker 1: the Patriots still kept those big, lumbering linebackers out there

1679
01:26:00,000 --> 01:26:02,719
Speaker 1: and they're big guys up front, and and they didn't

1680
01:26:02,760 --> 01:26:05,599
Speaker 1: go like you know, dime defense and didn't go because

1681
01:26:05,600 --> 01:26:08,280
Speaker 1: they were just like, we're still more afraid of Dearness

1682
01:26:08,360 --> 01:26:11,840
Speaker 1: Johnson than Baker. That you're gonna have to beat us

1683
01:26:11,920 --> 01:26:14,800
Speaker 1: throwing to the outside, which is very unconventional, and it

1684
01:26:14,880 --> 01:26:17,160
Speaker 1: worked well. I don't think the Lions are the team

1685
01:26:17,200 --> 01:26:19,800
Speaker 1: to execute that some game plan, but I would think

1686
01:26:19,880 --> 01:26:23,920
Speaker 1: other teams will adopt similar attitudes. And the last little thing,

1687
01:26:24,000 --> 01:26:26,800
Speaker 1: like every team that the Patriots have faced of late,

1688
01:26:27,400 --> 01:26:30,120
Speaker 1: it leaves that opponent in chaos. And that's what I

1689
01:26:30,200 --> 01:26:32,760
Speaker 1: was meant to say up top, was that all the

1690
01:26:32,880 --> 01:26:35,280
Speaker 1: narrative now is that you have Myles Garrett saying we

1691
01:26:35,360 --> 01:26:37,439
Speaker 1: didn't adjust on defense, we didn't do this, so that

1692
01:26:37,560 --> 01:26:40,439
Speaker 1: it's like these were things that were never said last year,

1693
01:26:40,439 --> 01:26:42,600
Speaker 1: and it's just just you know, the journey of a

1694
01:26:42,680 --> 01:26:45,040
Speaker 1: coaching staff is rough when these things get when things

1695
01:26:45,120 --> 01:26:49,959
Speaker 1: get ugly. Um, all right, And finally on the schedule,

1696
01:26:50,439 --> 01:26:55,400
Speaker 1: Hey the Titans, Hey guys, you're in this a much

1697
01:26:55,520 --> 01:26:59,760
Speaker 1: needed lay up after game after game this season of

1698
01:27:00,000 --> 01:27:03,760
Speaker 1: the Titans and successfully going up against playoff teams. They

1699
01:27:03,880 --> 01:27:07,000
Speaker 1: tied an NFL record last week with their fifth consecutive

1700
01:27:07,040 --> 01:27:09,960
Speaker 1: win over a playoff team from the year before. Um,

1701
01:27:10,760 --> 01:27:14,960
Speaker 1: I think they have seven games overall against teams that

1702
01:27:15,040 --> 01:27:17,160
Speaker 1: are playoff teams a year ago, and now you get

1703
01:27:17,200 --> 01:27:22,000
Speaker 1: the Texans at Nissan Stadium. We always like the ultimate.

1704
01:27:22,040 --> 01:27:25,840
Speaker 1: I thought that was a steady mid tier. I owned

1705
01:27:25,840 --> 01:27:29,360
Speaker 1: a CenTra, drove it down to New Orleans throughout college,

1706
01:27:30,000 --> 01:27:33,120
Speaker 1: drove it to Los Angeles a stolen vehicle. But that's

1707
01:27:33,160 --> 01:27:36,880
Speaker 1: It's still a nice story overall. Graver's got a Nissan.

1708
01:27:36,960 --> 01:27:42,600
Speaker 1: He's such a Titans guy that owns. He put the

1709
01:27:42,720 --> 01:27:46,000
Speaker 1: headset on Graver because I don't want to, because this is,

1710
01:27:46,080 --> 01:27:48,599
Speaker 1: like I said, a well earned lay up this week

1711
01:27:48,640 --> 01:27:50,400
Speaker 1: for the Titans, who were gonna move to nine and

1712
01:27:50,520 --> 01:27:54,120
Speaker 1: two when they beat the Titan Texans by three touchdowns.

1713
01:27:54,200 --> 01:27:59,479
Speaker 1: But um, let me say this, Jeffrey Simmons unbelievable player

1714
01:27:59,520 --> 01:28:01,360
Speaker 1: on that deep. It's this season. He had two sacks

1715
01:28:01,439 --> 01:28:03,400
Speaker 1: last week. He's up to five in the last two weeks.

1716
01:28:04,240 --> 01:28:08,960
Speaker 1: Your podcast on the Titans Titans film room. What's up grammer?

1717
01:28:09,000 --> 01:28:12,240
Speaker 1: By the way, Hi, how's it going? Hey? Your I

1718
01:28:12,360 --> 01:28:16,479
Speaker 1: drive a CenTra proudly. But because the stadium is named

1719
01:28:16,560 --> 01:28:19,240
Speaker 1: after Okay, I'm just confessed that that was not a

1720
01:28:19,280 --> 01:28:22,519
Speaker 1: trigger point for you to go by the Wold if

1721
01:28:22,560 --> 01:28:27,080
Speaker 1: that was the case. But uh so your podcast on

1722
01:28:27,200 --> 01:28:31,880
Speaker 1: the Titans has some pull within the Tennessee Titans fan

1723
01:28:32,000 --> 01:28:35,960
Speaker 1: community and uh as a result, A reporter asked asked

1724
01:28:36,040 --> 01:28:40,160
Speaker 1: Jeffrey Simmons about the nickname that your podcast. I believe

1725
01:28:40,240 --> 01:28:41,840
Speaker 1: and correct me if I'm wrong on any of this.

1726
01:28:42,640 --> 01:28:46,000
Speaker 1: You're trying to to make the defensive line's nickname you

1727
01:28:46,080 --> 01:28:49,639
Speaker 1: the Tennessee tickle Monsters. Is that correct? Alright? So somebody

1728
01:28:49,680 --> 01:28:51,120
Speaker 1: and this is really is a good pop for you,

1729
01:28:51,320 --> 01:28:52,600
Speaker 1: and it has been a lot of good pop for

1730
01:28:52,680 --> 01:28:57,160
Speaker 1: Grave Diggers behind the scenes. Really a searching, um, they asked.

1731
01:28:57,560 --> 01:29:00,320
Speaker 1: They asked Jeffrey Simmons what he thought about a tickle

1732
01:29:00,360 --> 01:29:02,800
Speaker 1: monster's nickname. Here's what he said. Yeah, I saw that.

1733
01:29:02,840 --> 01:29:05,280
Speaker 1: I kind of ignored. That's that's not who we are.

1734
01:29:07,000 --> 01:29:09,280
Speaker 1: They need to come up with some more aggressive take

1735
01:29:09,320 --> 01:29:11,640
Speaker 1: a month and south two of that, you know, I

1736
01:29:11,720 --> 01:29:15,559
Speaker 1: guess nice, No, we we only feel would I could

1737
01:29:15,560 --> 01:29:19,040
Speaker 1: be mean to be aggressive, So I don't like that one.

1738
01:29:21,400 --> 01:29:23,160
Speaker 1: I don't know. They got to come out better than that.

1739
01:29:24,439 --> 01:29:26,760
Speaker 1: I think he's halfway there. I think he's halfway. You've

1740
01:29:26,880 --> 01:29:29,800
Speaker 1: you've hardly convinced that we let's not yeah, let's not

1741
01:29:29,880 --> 01:29:33,000
Speaker 1: sugarcoat this. You got just basically thrown out of the

1742
01:29:33,080 --> 01:29:36,400
Speaker 1: building metaphorically on that. I think this is a miscommunication

1743
01:29:36,720 --> 01:29:39,240
Speaker 1: because he's saying all the same things that we're saying.

1744
01:29:39,320 --> 01:29:43,280
Speaker 1: They're aggressive, they're mean, Like when you're weird uncle is

1745
01:29:43,320 --> 01:29:47,200
Speaker 1: tickling you as a child, Like that's aggressive and mean, right,

1746
01:29:47,400 --> 01:29:54,880
Speaker 1: that's a something when when you're getting tickled like we

1747
01:29:55,360 --> 01:29:57,960
Speaker 1: called aunt. I don't know, just yeah, sure, any any

1748
01:29:58,120 --> 01:30:00,479
Speaker 1: weird family member of yours that likes to just tickle

1749
01:30:00,520 --> 01:30:02,120
Speaker 1: you when you're a child. I mean, he all but

1750
01:30:02,320 --> 01:30:05,360
Speaker 1: requested that you guys never get credentials. That was it

1751
01:30:05,520 --> 01:30:08,600
Speaker 1: was a tough situation there, but you have to You

1752
01:30:08,680 --> 01:30:10,519
Speaker 1: could try to spin it, and I understand that that's

1753
01:30:10,520 --> 01:30:12,240
Speaker 1: what you're gonna try to do. They're a great digger,

1754
01:30:12,320 --> 01:30:15,160
Speaker 1: I will say, but he really was not happy with it,

1755
01:30:15,479 --> 01:30:18,320
Speaker 1: I will say. Bud Dupree liked the video of the

1756
01:30:18,400 --> 01:30:21,600
Speaker 1: Tickle Monsters on Instagram. So Bud Dupree is behind it,

1757
01:30:21,840 --> 01:30:26,000
Speaker 1: and Olah Daney, who's like a third outside linebacker guy.

1758
01:30:26,560 --> 01:30:29,759
Speaker 1: He said, it's amusing to him. Great, so you've split

1759
01:30:29,880 --> 01:30:34,559
Speaker 1: the locker room. But you gotta Simmons as a big

1760
01:30:34,640 --> 01:30:36,439
Speaker 1: dog there, and you have I think you have to

1761
01:30:36,479 --> 01:30:38,320
Speaker 1: have something that they're all on the same page. What

1762
01:30:38,400 --> 01:30:41,280
Speaker 1: about like Big Jeff and the Tickle Monsters or something.

1763
01:30:41,840 --> 01:30:45,120
Speaker 1: He might be warm up to the individual attention there

1764
01:30:45,200 --> 01:30:51,000
Speaker 1: that's smart. Yeah, like a Bruce in the Eastreet band type. Alright,

1765
01:30:51,000 --> 01:30:53,160
Speaker 1: I'm not sure they wouldn't buy three touchdowns. By the way,

1766
01:30:53,160 --> 01:30:55,559
Speaker 1: I don't know. I know their offense has worked very good,

1767
01:30:55,600 --> 01:31:02,200
Speaker 1: but come on, the defensive score division aime special Tyrod

1768
01:31:02,320 --> 01:31:04,559
Speaker 1: isn't quite as bad as he looked at game against

1769
01:31:04,560 --> 01:31:08,720
Speaker 1: the Dolphins. Now, the two they're so resilient. I think

1770
01:31:08,760 --> 01:31:10,920
Speaker 1: they're going to handle their business. I think, yeah, they'll

1771
01:31:10,960 --> 01:31:14,160
Speaker 1: be fine. But I wouldn't surprise that Titans don't feel

1772
01:31:14,160 --> 01:31:16,600
Speaker 1: like they're ready to blow teams out right now. But

1773
01:31:16,720 --> 01:31:20,000
Speaker 1: that is ultimately for um grave digger. Bad news good

1774
01:31:20,040 --> 01:31:23,439
Speaker 1: news thing more good than bad because bad news. Simmons

1775
01:31:23,560 --> 01:31:25,880
Speaker 1: did a three sixty one mill dunk on you and

1776
01:31:25,960 --> 01:31:30,759
Speaker 1: your nickname good news like Grave Digger and the Titans

1777
01:31:30,800 --> 01:31:33,040
Speaker 1: phone room. They're part of the conversation. You're in, you're in,

1778
01:31:33,240 --> 01:31:34,960
Speaker 1: You're a horse in the race. I don't know what

1779
01:31:35,080 --> 01:31:39,559
Speaker 1: we're part of the Titan zeitgeist right is furious right now?

1780
01:31:40,160 --> 01:31:43,519
Speaker 1: Oh man, Yeah, don't let Arsky here about this. When

1781
01:31:43,720 --> 01:31:45,360
Speaker 1: when he we had him on the show, he was

1782
01:31:45,479 --> 01:31:48,479
Speaker 1: so angry about the Titoons thing. I think he wrote

1783
01:31:48,479 --> 01:31:50,720
Speaker 1: about it, he tweeted about it, and then we had

1784
01:31:50,760 --> 01:31:52,600
Speaker 1: him out at his guests and I revealed that I

1785
01:31:52,720 --> 01:31:54,760
Speaker 1: was the one that had the nicknames like, oh, that

1786
01:31:54,960 --> 01:31:58,360
Speaker 1: was you. He is not gonna like the Tickle monsters

1787
01:31:58,439 --> 01:32:02,400
Speaker 1: if he didn't like Titoons, be careful there. He's a

1788
01:32:02,439 --> 01:32:04,920
Speaker 1: salty guy that I liked him. I thought he was

1789
01:32:05,000 --> 01:32:07,080
Speaker 1: a you know, he's kind of an uncle type guy.

1790
01:32:07,160 --> 01:32:10,160
Speaker 1: Gruff uncle, not the uncle, not that uncle that we

1791
01:32:10,280 --> 01:32:14,439
Speaker 1: were chronicling before. Gruff uncles. It's good to have a

1792
01:32:14,479 --> 01:32:16,280
Speaker 1: couple of gruff uncles in the mix. They teach you

1793
01:32:16,400 --> 01:32:19,600
Speaker 1: some things, all right, we hope, but we taught you

1794
01:32:19,720 --> 01:32:23,200
Speaker 1: some things, you know. The Uncle Charles Bowl is this weekend.

1795
01:32:24,360 --> 01:32:27,720
Speaker 1: Graver as part of the zeitgeist with the Titans. Mark

1796
01:32:27,840 --> 01:32:32,320
Speaker 1: is on a break and you're gonna know blow hards.

1797
01:32:33,760 --> 01:32:37,120
Speaker 1: They couldn't even go down that road yet you should

1798
01:32:37,120 --> 01:32:39,519
Speaker 1: have closed that circle. Tim Boyle coming off, I are

1799
01:32:39,640 --> 01:32:42,400
Speaker 1: looks like he'll start for those and probably started if

1800
01:32:42,439 --> 01:32:45,519
Speaker 1: he looks okay, probably starting on Thanksgiving. So get ready

1801
01:32:45,560 --> 01:32:47,360
Speaker 1: for some Tim Boyle. He had some moments in the

1802
01:32:47,439 --> 01:32:50,720
Speaker 1: preseason with the Packers. I'm just saying, all right, go

1803
01:32:50,920 --> 01:32:56,200
Speaker 1: holiday poorly named Thanks to the Lions again. Thursday Night

1804
01:32:56,280 --> 01:33:00,920
Speaker 1: Football Patriots Falcon's recap with Marx Shstler and a special

1805
01:33:01,000 --> 01:33:07,680
Speaker 1: guest guests multiple Did someone say viral? Can we go

1806
01:33:07,800 --> 01:33:10,599
Speaker 1: to and rupt? I'm not. I don't make these types

1807
01:33:10,640 --> 01:33:12,640
Speaker 1: of promises that get dropped out of the sky. You know,

1808
01:33:12,800 --> 01:33:16,040
Speaker 1: we'll see how it does, um and then Sunday Night

1809
01:33:16,120 --> 01:33:18,639
Speaker 1: will recap every game we just previewed. And like we said,

1810
01:33:18,680 --> 01:33:23,360
Speaker 1: we'll be at uh the Sunday night football game Steelers Chargers,

1811
01:33:23,439 --> 01:33:25,320
Speaker 1: So that's gonna be fun. We'll talk a little bit

1812
01:33:25,320 --> 01:33:35,439
Speaker 1: about that experience. Let's see developing news Erica. Yep, we're

1813
01:33:35,479 --> 01:33:45,519
Speaker 1: back here. Okay, alright, no no other updates. Sorry, Still

1814
01:33:45,760 --> 01:33:51,040
Speaker 1: the one you had, Fird wrote, I'll ask period credential

1815
01:33:51,120 --> 01:33:53,880
Speaker 1: deadline past, so they may say no, Okay, Yeah, I

1816
01:33:53,880 --> 01:33:55,640
Speaker 1: feel like we've been pretty good to the chargers on

1817
01:33:55,720 --> 01:33:59,240
Speaker 1: this show. And if there's any charges people listening, we

1818
01:33:59,400 --> 01:34:02,760
Speaker 1: have some charge just friends in the building. I mean,

1819
01:34:02,920 --> 01:34:05,760
Speaker 1: they're they're announcers for Starters, right, you do a show

1820
01:34:06,040 --> 01:34:10,120
Speaker 1: with their employee, Matt money Smith. I mean you could

1821
01:34:10,200 --> 01:34:13,040
Speaker 1: argue this podcast built so Fi Stadium if you want

1822
01:34:13,040 --> 01:34:16,080
Speaker 1: to look at it from a certain point of view. It's, uh,

1823
01:34:16,360 --> 01:34:20,280
Speaker 1: that feels a little strong. Alright, So hopefully Ricky will

1824
01:34:20,280 --> 01:34:21,960
Speaker 1: be with us as well. If not, you'll just you know,

1825
01:34:22,080 --> 01:34:27,880
Speaker 1: be sitting around, you know, the boo Tube. Alright, go

1826
01:34:28,080 --> 01:34:30,200
Speaker 1: hang out in the film room. All right, let's go.

1827
01:34:30,880 --> 01:34:33,840
Speaker 1: Dan Hanson signing off for Quiet Storm, the Old Boss

1828
01:34:34,600 --> 01:34:40,439
Speaker 1: Grave Digger, Quiet Storm guy's got juice, Digger, He's got juice.

1829
01:34:40,880 --> 01:34:46,519
Speaker 1: Week after a week, I can't doubt it until Sunday.

1830
01:34:46,560 --> 01:34:47,080
Speaker 1: Heed the call.