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Speaker 2: looking like kind of like, well, Shack ain't really like

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Speaker 2: So and for for a Celtic, for a Celtics superstar,

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Speaker 3: And I think people get messed up by words. Softness

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Speaker 3: So I had to learn how to before I go crazy,

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Speaker 3: Ocean's Thirteenth. I'm gonna break in the Hall of Fame

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Speaker 1: I mean, we can start the big we can start

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Speaker 3: Isaiah Thomas said it the best one day. He said,

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Speaker 2: He's a basketball basketball Hall of Fame.

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Speaker 3: It's because I think, like for example, when.

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Speaker 1: an NCAA Championship game twenty one. It's the Basketball Hall

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Speaker 3: And then you mean got in the same day? I

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Speaker 1: What do you mean?

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Speaker 3: Give mean what I mean? I said it?

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Speaker 1: No, No, I thought you were asking date wise? Or

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Speaker 3: Brother? I'm just saying A is a bad I'm a bat,

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Speaker 3: Like what is a I and the bad? Yeah? Every day?

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Speaker 3: They are, they are very important, but.

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Speaker 1: But they're not the end all be all, No, Like.

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