Speaker 1: M hm.
Speaker 2: Hm, welcome back all the smoke. We're here man, back
Speaker 2: in La. It's been a minute. West Side the best side.
Speaker 1: You already know.
Speaker 2: Today we got an iconic voice of radio legend, legend
Speaker 2: in the space. When he talks, you listen. The journey
Speaker 2: is kind of out of a story, but from being
Speaker 2: homeless to a bodyguard to a radio superstar, big when
Speaker 2: you sit back and look at your journey, obviously, I
Speaker 2: feel like when we're in the midst of our journey,
Speaker 2: we never really take time and appreciate, you know, all
Speaker 2: we've accomplished. But do you ever kind of sit back
Speaker 2: like damn.
Speaker 3: All the time? All the time? Bro, Like you know,
Speaker 3: everybody come from it. People say it like it's just
Speaker 3: a cliche phrase, but everybody come from humble beginnings, at
Speaker 3: least the people that we messed with, you know what
Speaker 3: I'm saying. So there's times literally when I'm on the
Speaker 3: air and I'll stop and I even tell the people
Speaker 3: that's listening, like, man, I'm tripping, I'm tripping that I'm
Speaker 3: in here. You know what I'm saying. I tripping that
Speaker 3: people are listening. I'm tripping at people got their phones.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm tripping. I'm tripping off this motorcycle
Speaker 3: that I hear outside. But but yeah, man, like I
Speaker 3: pray to God, I never get used to it, you
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. And there's times when I'll just
Speaker 3: you know, my mom growing up seven kids, we have
Speaker 3: bouts of homelessness. There's times I'm in my house and
Speaker 3: I'm like, dude, this is your house, you know, and
Speaker 3: then you get up and you move on. But I
Speaker 3: trip off of it all the time.
Speaker 2: Bro, I'm gonna put you right on the spot, off
Speaker 2: the rip. Give me your top three favorite interviews you've
Speaker 2: ever ever hosted.
Speaker 3: I don't have them, really, no, man. You know, I
Speaker 3: get it all the time. I get what's your favorite?
Speaker 3: Or top three? Probably be easier if it's not top three,
Speaker 3: it's people, you know what I'm saying. Like Snoop is
Speaker 3: one of those. And y'all know, Dog don't have to
Speaker 3: be talking about nothing as far as it's not an album,
Speaker 3: it's not a movie, it's not He could just come
Speaker 3: in and you enjoy Snoop, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: So Dog is one of those man talking with Barack Obama.
Speaker 3: Who would have thought, you know what I'm saying that
Speaker 3: we have a black president. Then you have a guy
Speaker 3: that does a hip hop morning show speaking with the
Speaker 3: president of the United States. I get those where I
Speaker 3: trip off of I'm on somebody's itinerary. So whoever it is,
Speaker 3: you know, I know that the night before they're like,
Speaker 3: oh man, I gotta get up and I gotta go
Speaker 3: do big Boy in the morning. So that trips me out.
Speaker 3: So every interview that I have, all of them are
Speaker 3: kind of special to me. I know that's a broad stroke,
Speaker 3: but I interview by choice, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 3: and so the people that I choose to interview, I
Speaker 3: enjoy having them in the neighborhood.
Speaker 2: Let's dog GTA recently announced you'll have a radio station
Speaker 2: on the game. How has GT I mean to me,
Speaker 2: it's kind of crossed you into a new a younger demo. Yeah,
Speaker 2: speak to you know what kind of that How that
Speaker 2: partnership works out and you know how it continues to
Speaker 2: expand your viewership.
Speaker 3: I did. I did GTA five and so we had
Speaker 3: my radio station. I think it was Los Santos in there.
Speaker 3: I never played the game. They sent it to me
Speaker 3: and I didn't even start the ship up you know
Speaker 3: what I'm saying. I would play video games, but I
Speaker 3: know how to cast checks, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: So they hit me up and I know what it is.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. I know it's great for
Speaker 3: my brand so on and so forth. So just getting
Speaker 3: with GTA and I think it's Rockstar. That was like
Speaker 3: it was an no brainer for me, you know. And
Speaker 3: then the way that they centered a whole station around
Speaker 3: you and all the dialogue, and there's people that probably
Speaker 3: didn't even you know, some people that knew I had
Speaker 3: a radio show anyway, it's like, oh, I listened to
Speaker 3: your station on GTA. But also there's people that probably
Speaker 3: didn't even know that I existed in this world until
Speaker 3: they heard that, you know, and probably some of them
Speaker 3: still don't know Big Boy's neighborhood. They just know that
Speaker 3: that station. Yeah exactly.
Speaker 2: You had the honor of hosting Tupac's Star unveiling earlier
Speaker 2: this year, and your eyes wives Pac still so impactful.
Speaker 2: Maybe you know, nearly thirty years after, you know, he's
Speaker 2: left this earth.
Speaker 3: You know what I think, you know, for one, the
Speaker 3: whole gone too soon, you know, Pac, he left us
Speaker 3: with a lot of material left us with a catalog.
Speaker 3: But the one thing with Pac as well is that
Speaker 3: people loved him, you know what I'm saying, Like you
Speaker 3: can love a song, you can love a certain time period,
Speaker 3: but people loved him, even people that didn't know Pac.
Speaker 3: I knew Pak before I got into radio, so it
Speaker 3: was crazy for me to know Pak, then for Pak
Speaker 3: to come in and do an interview and to see
Speaker 3: how much Pac was loved beforehand. I remember one time
Speaker 3: we were doing the show and I was with the
Speaker 3: Far Side and we used to do a lot of
Speaker 3: shows with POC, and I remember people tearing down a
Speaker 3: fence to get to get to park And this is
Speaker 3: before the POC that like really blew up. You know
Speaker 3: what I'm saying, This is the I get around Pock.
Speaker 3: He still he's banging, but it's not the Parc that
Speaker 3: we know and revere today. But I just did I
Speaker 3: know that we're gonna lose Poc that young? Not at all?
Speaker 3: But did I know that we would love him for
Speaker 3: more years past his death as far as like he's
Speaker 3: been loved more years than he was on earthy and
Speaker 3: that that love is not going away, you know? Yeah,
Speaker 3: Like my daughter's fifteen and she's a POC fan, you
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying, which is crazy.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: And doing the star also, Bro, that was like when
Speaker 3: they hit me up to host his star unveiling. That
Speaker 3: was man, you know. And it's easy to say, oh man,
Speaker 3: it's big boy, La I should but come on, man,
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. That's like anybody that's an
Speaker 3: honor beyond honor bro.
Speaker 1: So.
Speaker 3: I literally I told my wife, I said, what every
Speaker 3: day this falls on, I would be there. And I
Speaker 3: made sure that I was there, man, And it was
Speaker 3: a beautiful day. People and La showed up to they
Speaker 3: showed up.
Speaker 1: You were born in Peoria or Chicago? Chicago.
Speaker 4: I played against somebody named Mike Robinson. I went to
Speaker 4: Purdue basketball from Peoria. A long time ago. You moved
Speaker 4: to Los Angeles with with your mom.
Speaker 1: U was two. Yeah, I was that transition ship.
Speaker 3: I didn't know you know too, I wasn't in the
Speaker 3: car like, oh, mom stopped here. I mean, I don't
Speaker 3: know too much about Peoria. I mean it's one of
Speaker 3: those things. Now, you know, with navigation, I can get
Speaker 3: you around, but if you turn the navigation, we all lost.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. So my whole thing was
Speaker 3: I was out here in LA before I was too,
Speaker 3: So this is kind of like all I know. I
Speaker 3: went back to Peoria one time when I was bodyguarding
Speaker 3: the forest side, I think. But other than that, this
Speaker 3: is this is it?
Speaker 1: Then?
Speaker 3: You know, once I kind of got on, my mom lived,
Speaker 3: you know, in Chicago. Two of my brothers were born
Speaker 3: in Chicago, you know, but my mom lived there, so
Speaker 3: a lot of her family's from Chicago as well. And
Speaker 3: once I kind of got on, then that's when I
Speaker 3: realized my connection to Illinois. Because everybody start calling it right,
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, But I didn't.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, in a major way, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 3: calling for things that I couldn't give them. I'm like,
Speaker 3: who is Yeah? Not at all.
Speaker 4: People think that everybody answers this question the same, But
Speaker 4: when I hear people answer it, I get different things
Speaker 4: from them.
Speaker 1: What does your mom mean to you?
Speaker 3: Everything?
Speaker 1: Bro?
Speaker 3: Like my one and only tattoo, it says idle son.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. And I had that before
Speaker 3: my mom passed. My mom passed in nineteen ninety nine.
Speaker 3: I always was a mama's boy. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: I knew that, my man, my love for my mom
Speaker 3: is not was it's ridiculous, you know. So my mom
Speaker 3: worked extremely hard and I could see that as a kid,
Speaker 3: the sacrifices seven kids. Now that I'm grown and I'll
Speaker 3: have my own kids, like, damn, when did mom sleep?
Speaker 3: How did mom you know, survive off of one paycheck
Speaker 3: with seven kids? You know, we had a slippery slope
Speaker 3: with some homelessness, but it wasn't too her failure. It
Speaker 3: was more still trying to provide for the kids. And
Speaker 3: when you get in a situation slippery slope, you know,
Speaker 3: no drinking, no drugs, None of that shit was with
Speaker 3: my moms, even with us right now, you know what
Speaker 3: I'm saying. So my mom was extremely special. And I
Speaker 3: remember growing up. At one point we were living in
Speaker 3: a motel and I told my mom, I said, Mom,
Speaker 3: I said, one day I want to buy you a
Speaker 3: house so we'll never be evicted again. And she told me,
Speaker 3: she said, I know you were a baby now nine
Speaker 3: ten years old, this real shit going on. My mom
Speaker 3: could have been like baby, come all shit, you know,
Speaker 3: I got to get the money, Like okay, you know.
Speaker 3: But when she said that to me, it meant something
Speaker 3: at that time because it gave me something to keep
Speaker 3: pushing forward to. And when I told her, you know,
Speaker 3: I threw everything up against the wall. When Cane entertainment,
Speaker 3: you know, I wanted to be an actor. She went
Speaker 3: out and got me acting books. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: I'm sitting here in a motel reading acting books. But
Speaker 3: when I told her I was going to buy her
Speaker 3: a house, and she said, I know you will. That
Speaker 3: was my mission, you.
Speaker 1: Know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: So to actually buy my mom my house and tell
Speaker 3: her this is yours and no one ever take it
Speaker 3: away from you. Man, I could have I could have
Speaker 3: stopped radio back then, you know what I'm saying. Glad
Speaker 3: I didn't. I shouldn't have my house, you know, with moms.
Speaker 3: But but no, my mom meant everything to me, Bro.
Speaker 3: And it's nothing like losing something that is the most
Speaker 3: you know, shit, that's the most precious to you. You
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. So when my mom passed, it
Speaker 3: fucked me up. It messed me up, bat but I
Speaker 3: knew it seemed like what was crazy stack is like
Speaker 3: I started getting these opportunit unit of these that felt
Speaker 3: like they were just coming to that. And I tell people,
Speaker 3: I say, man, my mom was like my agent and
Speaker 3: manager sitting next to God and it was that thing
Speaker 3: where she was like, get that girl out of his life.
Speaker 3: Do this for my son here, you know, make this,
Speaker 3: you know easier for him. And it's felt like things
Speaker 3: just start falling, falling into place, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: And it had to be my mom, you know. So
Speaker 3: to this day, bro, my production is Ida Sign Production.
Speaker 3: I take care of my family still because in honor.
Speaker 1: Of my mother, you know what I mean, that's dope.
Speaker 1: I said.
Speaker 4: The biggest things I've ever done in my life was
Speaker 4: build my mom and grandmother's house.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. It's nothing like it, Bro,
Speaker 3: when you could just say, I got you. And of
Speaker 3: course selfishly, we all wish we had more time, right,
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. You wish he had more time,
Speaker 3: but you but I didn't, you know what I'm saying. So,
Speaker 3: but what she was able to see and see the
Speaker 3: billboards and see you know, the morning show, and see
Speaker 3: her house. And I remember I took her to Vegas
Speaker 3: one time and she used to love to go to Vegas,
Speaker 3: but it'd be like them five ten dollars turnaround trips
Speaker 3: on the bus with the gang of people. I took
Speaker 3: her to Vegas and I gave her a thousand dollars
Speaker 3: a gamble, right, My mom never had a thousand dollars
Speaker 3: to play with ever ever, you know. So I left
Speaker 3: her for like a couple of hours. When I came back,
Speaker 3: she had nine hundred and eighty dollars. They should playing
Speaker 3: a penny machine. But that's moms, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: Like I took it back from her. That's what you
Speaker 3: work for, man, seeing you know, seeing people smile as well.
Speaker 4: Walk with us through through this tough time of being home.
Speaker 4: It's sleeping on park benches and just trying to figure
Speaker 4: out the period that period in your life how you
Speaker 4: was feeling and how he was trying to stay positive,
Speaker 4: you know what, man.
Speaker 3: Like, you know, things are bad. You know, we weren't
Speaker 3: rich as far as when it came to the dollar,
Speaker 3: but we was at fluent when it came to love.
Speaker 3: Like my mom, we said it, I love y'all, love y'all,
Speaker 3: love you. So when we were going through our bouts
Speaker 3: of homelessness. It was more of you know, the motel.
Speaker 3: Eight of us in one motel room, you know what
Speaker 3: I'm saying. Then we stayed at this place called the
Speaker 3: Sunlight Mission, and the Sunlight Mission is just you know,
Speaker 3: you had to go to church.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 3: The boys, me and my brothers, we were in one room.
Speaker 3: My mom and the girls were in another room. But
Speaker 3: I think that not having builds a lot of characters
Speaker 3: if you know how to accept it. You know, I
Speaker 3: could sit up and it's crazy because when we were homeless,
Speaker 3: had a motel. It's as a kid, you were like, oh,
Speaker 3: we got a swimming pool. You know what I'm saying, right,
Speaker 3: you know, a swimming pool, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: But you found these things that you enjoyed. But you
Speaker 3: do find yourself where you're walking with your friends home
Speaker 3: and then you're like, okay, I live this way and
Speaker 3: they walk one way, and I walked through an alley
Speaker 3: and then when I know they're gone, I cut back
Speaker 3: and go to the motel. Never a hotel, to the motel.
Speaker 3: So you knew those kinds of things, man, And like
Speaker 3: I said, it just built this character. And we still
Speaker 3: had love, and you know, I would perform for the
Speaker 3: family and try to, you know, be the comic relief
Speaker 3: and all those kinds of things. But I could see it,
Speaker 3: especially when I got older, Bro, I could see it
Speaker 3: in my mom's eyes. As a parent, it's crazy when
Speaker 3: you feel and I don't know if my mom felt this,
Speaker 3: but I saw it in her eyes, like damn that
Speaker 3: I failed my kids and she didn't. But if you
Speaker 3: couldn't do something for your babies, it was a certain
Speaker 3: feeling that you would get, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: And so I was able to, you know, make sure
Speaker 3: that once we got older, that we were able to
Speaker 3: take care of some of the things. Once the boys
Speaker 3: were able to work, my sisters started to work, you know.
Speaker 3: But at that time, when you're looking at it, bro,
Speaker 3: it's like how long does this last?
Speaker 1: Right? You know?
Speaker 3: Is this forever? You know? And then now, as a kid, bro,
Speaker 3: all you would want was, man, I just want to
Speaker 3: an address, right, you know what I'm saying, I want
Speaker 3: a roof, you know. And when you start thinking of
Speaker 3: the basics that you don't have that you want, when
Speaker 3: you start to have and get things, you're like, well, shit,
Speaker 3: I know how to survive with nothing. So I can
Speaker 3: enjoy this something, you know, And I'm glad that she
Speaker 3: had a chance to kind of enjoy that. But you know,
Speaker 3: I think in the rear view mirror, it messes you.
Speaker 1: Up a little bit more scarred.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, and it does, you know. And there's a
Speaker 3: lot of tuition into the school of experience of you know,
Speaker 3: how you live your life and the things you want
Speaker 3: to do, and you know, live in the right way
Speaker 3: as far as like, you know, like I'm still no
Speaker 3: matter how many years I've been thirty years in radio
Speaker 3: in twenty twenty four, right, no matter how much radio
Speaker 3: I have behind you, I'm still motivated by fear. I'm
Speaker 3: still motivated by damn, this could disappear, you know. Or
Speaker 3: it's crazy because even when things are going right, you'll say, Okay,
Speaker 3: something happen, said, oh my god, what's gonna go wrong?
Speaker 3: You know, And that's a pattern from when you know
Speaker 3: we're growing up, you know, yeah, expecting the word sometimes.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 4: I think that's a good thing too, because regardless how
Speaker 4: much success you've had, how much success we had, we
Speaker 4: always feel like even though it's up like not necessarily
Speaker 4: something bad gonna happen, it's still more to prove you.
Speaker 3: Still you appreciate where you're at.
Speaker 4: You know what I mean, And you still want to
Speaker 4: show people that you appreciate that you got more to give,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. And I think having that
Speaker 4: having an attitude is not a bad thing, you know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: Times too, I just stop, and not that you pat
Speaker 3: yourself on the bag, but I'll stop sometime and I'm like, oh, ship,
Speaker 3: like I got a star on Hollywood Walker Fame, you know,
Speaker 3: like things like that where you're like, and sometimes I forget.
Speaker 3: Somebody just ask me, like, man, when's least I ain't
Speaker 3: been to your start? Like I gotta start. And not
Speaker 3: that it don't mean I don't piss on plaques and
Speaker 3: all that, but no, man, it's like you're constantly moving forward,
Speaker 3: but sometimes you gotta and just you know, look around
Speaker 3: and say okay, yeah, yeah, and then get back up here.
Speaker 1: As a man, we'd be stuck in real time.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and everybody else enjoyed around you.
Speaker 4: You was around in the peak of the game, Cutch
Speaker 4: and the bus cs and you even got them streets
Speaker 4: a little bit that had to hustle a little bit.
Speaker 1: What was that like?
Speaker 3: I don't know, man, you know what I'm saying, Like like,
Speaker 3: I don't know, because when I got into radio, aside
Speaker 3: from Bodyguarden, radio was the first job I ever had
Speaker 3: in my life. You know what I'm saying. I never
Speaker 3: had to pay taxes, I never had a W two.
Speaker 3: I never really felled out an application and got a job.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 3: I just I made way, you know, I made way,
Speaker 3: and it was you know, it was a lot of
Speaker 3: great stuff that I was into, you know. And when
Speaker 3: we were standing in the mission. I remember I was
Speaker 3: like ten years old and I went up for prayer,
Speaker 3: and when I was coming back, I'm walking up the
Speaker 3: aisle and it seemed like this lady just grew in
Speaker 3: front of me. I didn't see her walking up to
Speaker 3: me or anything. She just popped up and she looked
Speaker 3: at me and she said, don't let the devil get
Speaker 3: a hold of you. And as quick as she popped
Speaker 3: in front of me, she was gone. So any time
Speaker 3: in my life when I would mess up, I'd be like,
Speaker 3: come on, man, Kurt, don't let the devil get a
Speaker 3: hold of you.
Speaker 1: Don't.
Speaker 3: But you know, I had one foot in and one
Speaker 3: foot out. I knew I always wanted these entertainment things,
Speaker 3: so on and so forth. But realistically I was doing
Speaker 3: other things as well.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 3: I come from you know, a time when certain things
Speaker 3: was introduced to the streets of Los Angeles, and it
Speaker 3: was this dude named Mixed Master Spade not his fault,
Speaker 3: but he had this song where he said, you spend
Speaker 3: three hundred dollars, make seven hundred back.
Speaker 1: And I was like, you.
Speaker 3: Spend three hundred dollars make seven hundred back.
Speaker 1: Straight to that, straight to it, bro.
Speaker 3: Straight to it, you know. And it's crazy because if
Speaker 3: you look at my bio and you pull up anything,
Speaker 3: my bio says former bodyguard for the far Side, you know,
Speaker 3: like I never try to get into when when any
Speaker 3: hustles that people had, you gotta waf you you got
Speaker 3: away from your hustle. You you know, you separated yourself
Speaker 3: from your hustle. Oh I DJ I did say that,
Speaker 3: you know. You know, nowadays it's a little bit more
Speaker 3: goofy where everybody's talking about what.
Speaker 1: They do, you know what.
Speaker 3: But yeah, when we were going up, you didn't talk
Speaker 3: about that ship. You know what I'm saying. You did
Speaker 3: that ship, how you did it, and you moved on.
Speaker 3: But I would play. You know, I had to DJ
Speaker 3: in business, you know those kind of things like literally
Speaker 3: pack my records up and stuff, you know, just so
Speaker 3: I could justify having some kind of money. But no,
Speaker 3: it was like, you know, shit, it was it was great.
Speaker 4: You was doing it. You was doing it for the
Speaker 4: right reasons. These days, they're doing it to be seen.
Speaker 4: That's the difference.
Speaker 3: Yeah. And then with me, Bro, I was like, you know,
Speaker 3: three four or five hundred pounds. My ID was too positive,
Speaker 3: So you know what I'm saying, I couldn't you know,
Speaker 3: I wasn't never no strong arm. I didn't hold people up,
Speaker 3: none of that kind of shit.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 3: I did credit cards, I did phones, I did other things.
Speaker 3: But but yeah, like my I d BRO like shit,
Speaker 3: I did something to you, you'd be like, who was you?
Speaker 3: Like he's like six ft, like five hundred pounds. I
Speaker 3: was just him. So I had to hustle in different ways,
Speaker 3: you know. But uh, but ship once.
Speaker 1: I once.
Speaker 3: And it's crazy because when I say you try to
Speaker 3: you know, you try to hold on to certain things.
Speaker 3: It was like I just felt man like everybody around
Speaker 3: me started getting caught up. You know, people started you know,
Speaker 3: either dying or catching you know, als like at one
Speaker 3: on point, I have my partners that was coming home,
Speaker 3: that was doing they're twenty five. Everybody was like what
Speaker 3: I'm saying, like, you know, everybody coming home and you
Speaker 3: always had them decisions. Man, it just felt like I
Speaker 3: was navigating, always around the bullshit. I just missed it,
Speaker 3: just missed it. You know. It was like I was
Speaker 3: on some matrix shit and just missing it. After that game,
Speaker 3: yeah yeah, man, so not at all, bro.
Speaker 1: He was protecting and covering.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 1: Can you say.
Speaker 3: I ain't saying nothing ahead.
Speaker 4: You say Iced Tea and then W eighty made you
Speaker 4: fall in love with about Who was the artist to
Speaker 4: make you fall Ice Tea?
Speaker 3: Definitely? Definitely because Ice Tea early on, man, he had
Speaker 3: it was this documentary called Breaking an Entering, and that
Speaker 3: was the first time I saw, like I knew of
Speaker 3: Ice Tea. You know, Ice Team was years before you
Speaker 3: wa as well. But I was on like you know,
Speaker 3: super Rhymes, and I went out and I just found
Speaker 3: hip hop. Bro, you know what I'm saying, Like I
Speaker 3: was always on this quest to go get hip hop.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 3: Of course my first introduction was rappers Delight. That was
Speaker 3: like the biggest introduction because before I didn't know what
Speaker 3: it was. When my partner would have something from New York,
Speaker 3: I had to partner about the name of Frankie. And
Speaker 3: once I got Rappers Delight, that put me on like
Speaker 3: this quest where me and my homeway Trevor would walk
Speaker 3: to boys Club and we would just rap Rappers Delight.
Speaker 3: You know, I'm you know, she heard stories and she
Speaker 3: her fables that are vicious on the mic and the turntables.
Speaker 3: I would that I didn't know where turntables were. We
Speaker 3: had big ass stereos with the arm that dropped the
Speaker 3: record down and all that. But I just fell in
Speaker 3: love with it. And then once I got to about
Speaker 3: thirteen years old, man, it was just my first set
Speaker 3: of turntables, which was pieces of garbage, you know what
Speaker 3: I'm saying. But I would go out and I would
Speaker 3: just you know now you would go, well, not now,
Speaker 3: but you would go to record stores years ago to
Speaker 3: be these big, you know sections hip hop of course,
Speaker 3: you know, it was just in a you know, it's
Speaker 3: in a band. If you had that, I would go
Speaker 3: and just try to get everything hip hop, you know.
Speaker 3: I would try to find you know, cassettes and you know,
Speaker 3: twelve inches, and my boy would send me stuff from
Speaker 3: from the East Coast. But I was always on this
Speaker 3: quest because I grew up with music in our household,
Speaker 3: and that music was shit with Commodoores, Diana Ross, whatever
Speaker 3: the Jackson's, whatever was in the household. And I love music.
Speaker 3: My brother Keiths always kept me in with music. But
Speaker 3: once I got hip hop, that wasn't my mom's, that
Speaker 3: wasn't my older brothers. Like hip hop was like mine,
Speaker 3: you know, and it was fresh and it was brand new,
Speaker 3: and you know, you looked a certain way, you know,
Speaker 3: like hip hop now with to no fault, it's like,
Speaker 3: I don't know who hip hop is as ll as
Speaker 3: like what it looked like. Right, you will see somebody
Speaker 3: if they was wearing like you know, years fast forward,
Speaker 3: a cango, some gazelles, whatever it is, Adidas with no shoes,
Speaker 3: you knew that, Okay, they in it the same with
Speaker 3: the same way we're banging. Back in the days, you know,
Speaker 3: you could tell who was banging by the way they looked,
Speaker 3: you know, not by just what they said. I mean,
Speaker 3: you could spot somebody from a mile away and be like,
Speaker 3: oh yeah, you know such as such. You know, you
Speaker 3: go to concerts. I mean going to concerts, you never
Speaker 3: saw the headliner because they was in there tearing everything up,
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. So there was certain looks
Speaker 3: and I think that was the look that hip hop
Speaker 3: gave too. And it was good to just see your peers.
Speaker 3: You see somebody like oh and you start talking about
Speaker 3: this record and do you have this? And it was
Speaker 3: just one of those things man, I immediately fell in
Speaker 3: love with.
Speaker 1: Yeah, what was the what was the West Coast movement?
Speaker 3: Like back then the West Coast movement? It depends on
Speaker 3: when we're talking. The West Coast movement was the East
Speaker 3: Coast movement, you know what I'm saying. Like whatever was
Speaker 3: kind of run dim see was heavy for us. You know,
Speaker 3: I love Melly Mail, Mello Males, like one of my
Speaker 3: favorite m c's, you know, Grabbing as a Flash, Furious five,
Speaker 3: Melly Mail with Sol Sonic Forest with Bam Bottom, when
Speaker 3: they did you know, plant our things like that, Like
Speaker 3: that was just kind of what was with us. And
Speaker 3: then when we start with you know, King T, Toddy
Speaker 3: T mixed Master Spade, the original fifteen eighty KD. When
Speaker 3: you start hearing like those kind of things like homegrown
Speaker 3: with King T and homegrown with with what I you know,
Speaker 3: iced tea, ice T was ours, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: When you started to hear that, you know, and fast
Speaker 3: forward to when we get to the n WA's and
Speaker 3: the ice cubes. But when you had you know, Rudy
Speaker 3: d a snake puppy. You know, you know what Rudy Party,
Speaker 3: Snake Puppy, la dream Team. Those are like anthems to us,
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. So we were able to
Speaker 3: kind of like grab our own. And when we grab
Speaker 3: our own and you go to skate land, whirl on
Speaker 3: wheels and spots, you'll see people that that came from
Speaker 3: the turf.
Speaker 4: You know, you don't know at.
Speaker 3: Six in the morning, I was at one bro sixth morning.
Speaker 1: Was like, that's one of the ones.
Speaker 3: He told Ice. He told the story. My man started
Speaker 3: with running out the house for being chased by the police,
Speaker 3: you know, to he got out of prison. You know
Speaker 3: what I'm saying. My man said, my hair grew long
Speaker 3: on my seven year stay. When I got it done
Speaker 3: on my shoulders, it le my man. In three and
Speaker 3: a half minutes. He took you from jumping out the
Speaker 3: window to coming home from prison. You know what I'm
Speaker 3: saying that Ice Tea is the storyteller, bro, one of
Speaker 3: the best, Yeah, the best to ever do it.
Speaker 1: Bro. How do you go.
Speaker 2: From bodyguard to a far Side to one of the
Speaker 2: biggest DJ.
Speaker 1: In the world.
Speaker 3: You know, man far Side was uh one of my
Speaker 3: partners by the name of Paul Stewart DJP. I'm not
Speaker 3: sure if you know, but dj P. He he signed
Speaker 3: the for Side, but he was you know, he wrapped
Speaker 3: far Side, Coolio, House of Pain, Cypress Hill. You know,
Speaker 3: he had power Move promotions where he would also service
Speaker 3: the records. So a situation happened with the far Side
Speaker 3: and in uh New York and New Jersey where they
Speaker 3: had a little problem, you know. And I was always
Speaker 3: level headed. But Paul knew me from before. You know,
Speaker 3: I still you know, I'm not offensive, but my defenses
Speaker 3: fucking backing it, you know what I'm saying. And so
Speaker 3: he knew me. I took you know, I took martial arts.
Speaker 3: I was good with my hands, so on and so forth.
Speaker 3: And I had level head, and I was I was
Speaker 3: I had all the enoughs. I was business enough, I
Speaker 3: was street enough, I was good enough. I was corporate enough,
Speaker 3: you know. So you're like, man, I would love for
Speaker 3: you to come out and just look after the guys,
Speaker 3: all right. Cool. So I go out, me and my
Speaker 3: homeboys seal and we had a great, you know, great
Speaker 3: one run with passing me by your mind a lot
Speaker 3: Lab Cabin, you know, California where I left while Lab
Speaker 3: Cabin was going on. But that bazall right to the
Speaker 3: forest side. It took me all over the world. I
Speaker 3: never had a passport, I didn't, you know. To me,
Speaker 3: going out of town was like I would literally tell
Speaker 3: the homies like, man, I'm going out of town. Man,
Speaker 3: you know, we're going down to San Diego.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 3: That was going out of town to us. I had
Speaker 3: never been anywhere. Traveling with them bro and seeing the
Speaker 3: world that was like it just opened me up because
Speaker 3: anything that I was going to do was going to
Speaker 3: be connected with entertainment. Somehow. I was going to be
Speaker 3: there somehow, you know, Bodyguarden, Yeah, I will do that.
Speaker 3: I enjoyed being on the road. I enjoyed being on
Speaker 3: the bus. And I used to do a hip hop
Speaker 3: line called what Up. It was w U D D
Speaker 3: hyphen up, what Up? And well what up? Your call?
Speaker 3: Of regular two on three number, and it would just
Speaker 3: tell you what was going on. It was Tuesday, Tuesday night,
Speaker 3: go to Guadallanda's Eacas clubs on and so forth. But
Speaker 3: the way I would do it was I just had
Speaker 3: a turntable and a speaker up and I would do
Speaker 3: it on my phone. So if I messed up, I
Speaker 3: wasn't gonna do the whole thing. Oh I just yes, yes,
Speaker 3: and then I come right back, you know. So personality
Speaker 3: on there, you know. And the Baker Boys were doing
Speaker 3: the morning show and doing Friday night flavors and everything
Speaker 3: at Para one six, and the Bakers had, you know,
Speaker 3: they had the key to everything, and so their boss
Speaker 3: would listen to me on that what up. I'm not
Speaker 3: knowing who's listening. So one day, literally, bro, I get
Speaker 3: a call at my house and they were like, I
Speaker 3: have a you know, it's comings from Para one o six.
Speaker 3: I'm like, okay, hey, what's up? Ricks on and so forth.
Speaker 3: But I had went to his house for a barbecue,
Speaker 3: not knowing that he's checking my vibe. We just had it,
Speaker 3: you know, I'm big boy. The Baker Boys is known
Speaker 3: as the Two Fat Mexicans. We were stopping at everybody's
Speaker 3: barbecue because we were fat asses. So they were like, dude,
Speaker 3: we got to stop at our bosses house. And I'm like, oh, man,
Speaker 3: I don't want to stop at your boss's house. Like, oh,
Speaker 3: it's real quick, I said. Man, I'm just joking, said man,
Speaker 3: it's going to be some white man with his white wife,
Speaker 3: two white kids, white picket fence, and a white house.
Speaker 3: We get there, the white boss is out there, white wife,
Speaker 3: two white kids, and literally they had a white garden,
Speaker 3: picket fence with a white house. I'd have to step over.
Speaker 3: It's everything. I said. It was eat a burger, We bounce.
Speaker 3: He calls me up at the house, offered me. You know,
Speaker 3: said wuld, I like to try radio for one night.
Speaker 3: I was on a Lollapalooza tour with the Forest Side
Speaker 3: at the time, so I was like, yeah, you know.
Speaker 3: He said, I give you thirty five dollars an hour.
Speaker 3: I'm in my head, I'm like, okay, shit, I'll go
Speaker 3: make this money. Call me the next day, asked me
Speaker 3: for one to try it again. I'm thinking, okay, I
Speaker 3: do it for times too, get right back out on
Speaker 3: the road. After the second show, my man called me
Speaker 3: and said, you know, I want to try something crazy.
Speaker 3: He said, you ever thought about doing radio? And I
Speaker 3: was like, I would do everything. I was like, nah.
Speaker 3: He said, uh, I would like for you to try radio.
Speaker 3: And that's how it happened. Literally, that's how it happened.
Speaker 2: Something by the White Piggy Fence for a birth, Yeah, man.
Speaker 3: And I went in there and broke and you know,
Speaker 3: I DJ'ed and I did everything. I loved music, but
Speaker 3: I never did radio all my life. And I remember
Speaker 3: he told me, he said, go in there, say your name.
Speaker 3: Just remember the station. It's called Power, one of those six.
Speaker 3: And he gave me just he gave me a big
Speaker 3: yard to play in. Bro and I played in that
Speaker 3: yard like a mother.
Speaker 1: I was.
Speaker 3: You know, they let the right one and the wrong
Speaker 3: one in at the same time, and it worked, you
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Still yeah, still.
Speaker 2: Radio personalities back in the nineties, you know, huge influence,
Speaker 2: almost gatekeepers to.
Speaker 1: The music space.
Speaker 2: What was it like, I mean, any story do you
Speaker 2: feel like you could tell with labels or artists, bribes, threats.
Speaker 1: Like what was that vibe like when the radio was it?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, radio was everything, man, and people felt like
Speaker 3: like if you played it, their lives changed and it
Speaker 3: didn't know what I'm saying. So I was always good
Speaker 3: on telling somebody no, you know what I'm saying, like
Speaker 3: you gotta, you gotta, you gotta exercise that early because
Speaker 3: people are passionate, man, and you messed with somebody's passion.
Speaker 3: That's no longer business, bro, that's personal, right, you know.
Speaker 3: And to this day, somebody be like, big I need
Speaker 3: to get an interview. We make it happen. But I'm
Speaker 3: not gonna lie to you and say, oh man, I
Speaker 3: want to bring you in. I can play your record.
Speaker 3: And the one thing with me, man is I never
Speaker 3: got caught up in the olas, you know, to Payola,
Speaker 3: the plug all up, and I just didn't owe nobody nothing,
Speaker 3: you know. I had one I had one person that
Speaker 3: tried to give me a Mercedes Bins and I was like, nah, man.
Speaker 3: He was like, I said nah, because I complimented on him,
Speaker 3: complimenting him on the bins and he was like, man,
Speaker 3: he was like, oh man, just going and ticket, just
Speaker 3: go on and ticket. I was like, oh man, I
Speaker 3: was like nah, I said, and I know what he's doing.
Speaker 3: You know, shit, I come from that world, you know,
Speaker 3: you cut somebody off a big ass piece, and then
Speaker 3: that's start getting smaller and smaller. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 3: Like I got a HOOKI nah, I'm straight. And then
Speaker 3: he said, well, give me a dollar for it, and
Speaker 3: I'm like, nah, because I never be able to pay
Speaker 3: that dollar off, you know what I'm saying. So other
Speaker 3: than that, you know I was. I was always good
Speaker 3: with just no. You know, another time Easy E had
Speaker 3: somebody bring something to the door for me. I never
Speaker 3: told that story. And you know, I don't know what
Speaker 3: money is. They're like, oh, you know, easy got a record,
Speaker 3: so on and so forth. So I go out there
Speaker 3: and I look then give me a bag and it's
Speaker 3: like it's like one of the movies when somebody hand
Speaker 3: you a bag with a cash. It in a CD.
Speaker 3: And I used to do this thing called rapp attack.
Speaker 3: And when I looked in the bag, I didn't know
Speaker 3: bread back then, but now that I know what looked
Speaker 3: like if I like thirty racks in there, you know
Speaker 3: what I'm saying, it came to the radio station, if
Speaker 3: it came to the front porch, that would have really
Speaker 3: been yeah, yeah, yeah, you wouldn't have got off my porch.
Speaker 3: But but yeah, I was just like, man, I took
Speaker 3: the CD, gave the money back, and then the record
Speaker 3: ended up popping by yourself anyway.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: It ended up popping anyway, So I didn't need to
Speaker 3: mess up character. And you know that's a jackie you
Speaker 3: can never take off. Bro, know what I'm saying, Like
Speaker 3: I could have did something twenty five years ago, like yeah, man,
Speaker 3: we paid big for that, so not at all, you
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. It's enough lives out there, don't
Speaker 3: give them the truth?
Speaker 2: Right growing up in La any great showtime Lakers stories.
Speaker 2: You ever attend any the Forum club festivities?
Speaker 3: Hey no, man, I restart going to games. I met you. No, Man.
Speaker 3: You know when when the Lakers were winning, it was
Speaker 3: good for the city though, you know, we was going
Speaker 3: back to back and you know, the three peat. It
Speaker 3: was easy radio. But yeah, I never you know, I
Speaker 3: just I wasn't that guy that was in on a
Speaker 3: lot of the stuff, you know what I'm saying. But
Speaker 3: I love what the city felt like when energy down.
Speaker 3: Hell yeah, and it made it easy. You just had
Speaker 3: to come on and just be like, oh yeah, you know,
Speaker 3: Lakers game four. Oh, you know, and then the city
Speaker 3: felt different, you know, the parades felt different. Shaq would
Speaker 3: call in and he had the inside line. He just
Speaker 3: called in when he won, talking about he had a
Speaker 3: bird in the car and started barking, you know, like
Speaker 3: talking like a bird, all kind of you know, Kobe'll
Speaker 3: walk in. It was just it was different, bro, It
Speaker 3: was different times, man, you know, and it got to
Speaker 3: a point where, you know, shit, it felt like you
Speaker 3: had to not even take the engine off the bus.
Speaker 3: That bus was not going nowhere for a while, like
Speaker 3: no parades is going down, but now it's cool. But
Speaker 3: back then it was like, oh yeah, the city felt good,
Speaker 3: but no crazy, no crazy stories, man. You know, probably kept.
Speaker 1: Me safe, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: Talk about establishing that you touched on it earlier. You
Speaker 2: hadn't got a chance to meet Tupac before he became
Speaker 2: the Tupac that the knew in love.
Speaker 1: What was that like? And how'd you guys develop that friendship?
Speaker 1: You know what?
Speaker 3: Man? Pac was just just you know, people say, oh man,
Speaker 3: he was a real dude. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: He was real. He was My best conversations with Pac
Speaker 3: were away from everything. You know what I'm saying, either
Speaker 3: just sitting in a lobby, sitting in a hotel room,
Speaker 3: my partner, Smoky, him and his mom and PAC's mom
Speaker 3: of Fanny was in the Panthers together, So just catching
Speaker 3: him at the apartment and just just talking, you know,
Speaker 3: and I can see what was going down with Pac
Speaker 3: when he when he really got on. You know what
Speaker 3: I'm saying. That's why you wish we all had certain
Speaker 3: times where if our moment in time stopped right then
Speaker 3: no telling what we could have saw Poc become. You
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying, Like there's a difference between someone
Speaker 3: when they're twenty five when they're thirty five, forty five,
Speaker 3: and fifty, you know, to pass without possibly not even
Speaker 3: having a gray hair, you know what I'm saying, that's
Speaker 3: just crazy. But I had. I just had moments where
Speaker 3: we had cool moments. And there was another time, man,
Speaker 3: where he gave my guys so horrible advice, and I
Speaker 3: remember when he left through all that, Man, don't listen
Speaker 3: to you know what I'm saying, Because they passing me by,
Speaker 3: they felt like when you park was like, man, that
Speaker 3: record ain't platin, That shit ain't platinum. Man, y'all need
Speaker 3: to go into that delicious vinyl. Just start whooping everybody
Speaker 3: ass and I'll let park to everything. Then when he
Speaker 3: left all that, man, don't do that, you know what
Speaker 3: I'm saying, I don't do that. But uh, just a
Speaker 3: special being, man. And what's crazy is you know how
Speaker 3: when you know somebody special at the moment, not when
Speaker 3: they passed. When they passed, you feel it even more so.
Speaker 3: But I knew that Poc was special at the moment,
Speaker 3: and then when I would see what was going on
Speaker 3: when right before he passed, just a lot of the
Speaker 3: things that was kind of going on, you did want
Speaker 3: him to kind of slow down, you know, slow down
Speaker 3: and enjoy life, you know, because he took everything. He
Speaker 3: took everything, yeah, man, and I think that was also
Speaker 3: a lot of people had a chance to learn. And
Speaker 3: that's what he did with Pack. You always got a lesson,
Speaker 3: you know. And that's life. He was out, he was contradicting.
Speaker 3: He did burn and had a baby. That's us in life.
Speaker 3: Some days you want to just chill. Other moments you
Speaker 3: want to you know, at him. And and that's that
Speaker 3: that that was Pop.
Speaker 1: I feel like you had a song for every emotion.
Speaker 2: Nineties again the power of radio when a lot of
Speaker 2: the killings were going down, Like how do you.
Speaker 1: Manage through that? How do you talk?
Speaker 2: You were always again you were a voice of relaxation,
Speaker 2: a voice of realness, a voice of hope. When you're
Speaker 2: going through a time like that, you know, how do
Speaker 2: you fine tune that?
Speaker 3: And you're talking about industry wise, the street wise, a
Speaker 3: little bit of both man for one new you gotta
Speaker 3: be that voice of of calm too, you know what
Speaker 3: I'm saying, and not calm to where you say, all
Speaker 3: y'all could just f over us. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: You gotta, like I said, you got to have the enough.
Speaker 3: So I had to be West Coast enough too, especially
Speaker 3: when you know, we felt like there was some attacking
Speaker 3: going on when it came to what the West Coast
Speaker 3: was doing, you know, and when when Q and Mac
Speaker 3: and Doug came about down. You know, those were times
Speaker 3: where we felt like we had to protect the coast,
Speaker 3: you know, we had to protect the coast. And then
Speaker 3: when it got to you know, we started seeing this
Speaker 3: East coast West Coast beef because that wasn't beef when
Speaker 3: it did when when bout out one down, but when
Speaker 3: it got to the East Coast West Coast Beef, I
Speaker 3: literally had artists that would call and be like, man,
Speaker 3: is it cool to come out there?
Speaker 1: You know?
Speaker 3: And now you know, we record something, we record our interviews,
Speaker 3: but back in the days, you know, our interviews was
Speaker 3: live live, and I remember having to record some of
Speaker 3: the interviews because people didn't want people to know that
Speaker 3: they were down. And you know, I'm leaving. Can you
Speaker 3: play it when I leave?
Speaker 1: You know?
Speaker 3: But it was just it was just that crazy then.
Speaker 3: You know, the streets was acting a certain way, and
Speaker 3: you just had to be that voice because you could
Speaker 3: either you know, throw gasoline and a match on the city,
Speaker 3: or you could tell the city like you know, and
Speaker 3: I never been that guy. Or I just wanted to
Speaker 3: rile you up and just get you crazy. You know,
Speaker 3: we're not gonna be on no goofy stuff either, but
Speaker 3: just to get you mad, like come on stop.
Speaker 4: What role did you think you played in the hip
Speaker 4: hop in the nineties, Like how.
Speaker 1: Big of a role? And the biggest.
Speaker 4: I mean I was expecting that. And do you did
Speaker 4: a lot of artists play you there music to get approval?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, man, you know, and you gotta think, bro,
Speaker 3: like everything was so new.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 3: I was there with Death Row, you know, I was
Speaker 3: there with Bad Boy. I'm there with Rough Riders, you know,
Speaker 3: in any and every the cash money, you know, no limit,
Speaker 3: like I'm there through all this and everything that's in between,
Speaker 3: you know. So you did have people that, man, let me,
Speaker 3: can you listen to this? What's the next direction?
Speaker 1: You know?
Speaker 3: And people really like radio is is still a thing now.
Speaker 3: It's the most listened to still, the one of the
Speaker 3: most the most listened to media period. It's free radio.
Speaker 3: But you had everybody, you know what I'm saying. Jay
Speaker 3: Z had a new album. You had jay Z. You know, now,
Speaker 3: somebody could drop a new album and you probably may
Speaker 3: not see them, you know, except if I have a relationship.
Speaker 3: They're not doing a radio tour. I just got to
Speaker 3: call to me like, hey, you know, Cold, can I
Speaker 3: you know, a doc call call Cold or something. But
Speaker 3: everybody stopped in, you know, and everybody was like, you know,
Speaker 3: you had you had Big, you know, you had Park,
Speaker 3: you had Cube, you had Snoop, you had Eve, you
Speaker 3: had whoever it was that was up in something. You
Speaker 3: had them the biggest radio shows, you know, and now
Speaker 3: with streaming and satellite and you can consume music in
Speaker 3: different ways. That's why you got to have the personality too.
Speaker 3: You know, you can hear you know, Kendrick anywhere, but
Speaker 3: what's between Kendrick now is what people listen for as well.
Speaker 3: But yeah, that nineties era bro like And then think
Speaker 3: the thing about it too is I was always a
Speaker 3: fan of the music. So if I could go to
Speaker 3: a show, I really wanted to be at that show.
Speaker 3: You know, if I sat down with you, it's because
Speaker 3: I really wanted to talk to you, you know what
Speaker 3: I'm saying. And when you fast forward and you look
Speaker 3: at people now, you see the growth and it's crazy how
Speaker 3: you see I get younger people into the studio to
Speaker 3: the neighborhood, and I'm so excited for them because I
Speaker 3: seen it before. I seen it before, you know, like
Speaker 3: Cory Larray, I seen it before, Tired, I seen it before.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. Even when Kendrick would come
Speaker 3: for the first few times and him talking about when
Speaker 3: he sold off the Roxy. You know, now Kendrick, you know,
Speaker 3: you put him in front of hundreds of thousands of
Speaker 3: people and that's his home. So watching people early on
Speaker 3: and get a chance to be with them and watch
Speaker 3: their journey. That that's been amazing as well.
Speaker 4: Being such a big pillar in the music, uh in
Speaker 4: the music saying how did you stay out of any
Speaker 4: the death ro drama, all the death ro stuff?
Speaker 3: It wasn't my business. Yeah, you know what I'm saying, Like.
Speaker 1: They didn't come up there. We need this record play.
Speaker 1: We know it's bullshit, but we need to play.
Speaker 3: What's crazy is that? Should never did that?
Speaker 1: Well?
Speaker 3: People say, oh shug, yeah, you know it was never like, man,
Speaker 3: you need to play my mother records. You know they
Speaker 3: had bangers anyway, right, you know what I'm saying, They
Speaker 3: had bangers anyway. So nah, I never had no no
Speaker 3: crazy situation where somebody was talking about you need to
Speaker 3: play this respect upfront with you too, and then I'm
Speaker 3: not you know, I going anyway, especially then, you know.
Speaker 3: And the one thing with me as well, Man, I
Speaker 3: got kids, I got a wife. You know, I've always
Speaker 3: had a reason to make it home, even if it's
Speaker 3: just for me, you know. And it's easier to be
Speaker 3: square business with somebody, you know, because I was in
Speaker 3: a position bro where I never want you to think
Speaker 3: I owe you anything, you know what I'm saying. So
Speaker 3: it's better for me to not take nothing from you.
Speaker 3: So I never had you know, somebody. You know, of
Speaker 3: course people want you to play the records off. Man,
Speaker 3: you're not doing what enough West Coast interviews or you're
Speaker 3: not you know, through my career, but it's never been
Speaker 3: nothing where somebody said I want to meet you downstairs.
Speaker 3: That's that's never happened, you know what I'm saying. And
Speaker 3: then plus, man, like the city really look out for me,
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. Like I get people if
Speaker 3: I jump out the car on whatever for min whatever,
Speaker 3: big what you're doing over here? But I know I'm
Speaker 3: not naive, but I know the city got me too,
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. But it's a different time too.
Speaker 3: Now they're come and ask you for a pitch and
Speaker 3: rob your ass. Now I love you, take your ship off.
Speaker 3: Yeah man, it's different rooms now, bro, you know what
Speaker 3: I'm saying. These begs were me more than OG's man. Yeah, man,
Speaker 3: it's a different it's a different world now.
Speaker 4: Talk to us about how it was, how La was
Speaker 4: when Dre was departed Death Row and starting aftermath.
Speaker 3: Man, you know what, the same way when you saw
Speaker 3: Q leave n w A, he was like, oh boy,
Speaker 3: she was about to be bad, Like what's going on here?
Speaker 3: You know, because you connected them with so much, you know,
Speaker 3: And I remember when when Dre was done with death Row.
Speaker 3: I remember specifically like, man, what does that mean? You know?
Speaker 3: What does that mean? You know, when when he's not
Speaker 3: with death Row and the music that we get that
Speaker 3: we got from them collectively, what does that mean for Dre?
Speaker 3: You know what does that mean for for death Row?
Speaker 3: With the you know, the chronic albums? And it was like, man,
Speaker 3: like how do you leave that? But you kind of
Speaker 3: trust the process and let somebody else go through what
Speaker 3: they're going through. I'm on the outside, you know, looking in,
Speaker 3: and I'm hearing certain things when it comes to the music,
Speaker 3: But you wonder real talk like, man, what is that
Speaker 3: going to sound?
Speaker 1: Like?
Speaker 3: Does does he have snoop somewhere else? Yeah? Does he
Speaker 3: have does he have dads corrupt? Does he have rage?
Speaker 1: You know?
Speaker 3: Danny boy, whoever whoever is there, Nate? Does he have that?
Speaker 3: And that dude he's the formula?
Speaker 1: Yeah, you don't have none of that without the doctor.
Speaker 4: So I mean I feel like you felt Drake could
Speaker 4: have went anywhere and landed and built the same thing.
Speaker 3: And we've seen that many times, many times over, you
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. We saw, you know, the introduction
Speaker 3: of this dude, Snoop Dogg. You know, we saw that.
Speaker 3: We saw the chemistry of putting all these dudes and
Speaker 3: females in the house and coming with you know, the
Speaker 3: chronic album and coming back with you know, Snoops What's
Speaker 3: my Name? And doggy style album. It was like, you know,
Speaker 3: from when we first heard deep Cover, I knew something
Speaker 3: was special, you know what I'm saying. I knew something
Speaker 3: was special. And when you see what Doctor dre what
Speaker 3: he did with Michelle A, like, damn, that's a sound.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, what he did with his projects,
Speaker 3: that's a sound. And then you get the most anticipated,
Speaker 3: you know, debut album coming from Snoop. That's a sound.
Speaker 3: That's a sound, bro. And then while you're looking over here,
Speaker 3: here comes this Marshall Mathers and you're like, where that
Speaker 3: comes fro? You know what I'm saying. And so you
Speaker 3: see that with eminem, you see that with fifty, You
Speaker 3: see it with Kendrick, you see it with Mary, like
Speaker 3: that dude just getting there, man, and he's an evil.
Speaker 3: He's a genius, not even he's just a scientist.
Speaker 1: Bro.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 1: What artists?
Speaker 4: Would you say up from the West Coast that has
Speaker 4: given the biggest contribution to hip hop.
Speaker 3: The biggest. That's hard because yeah, man, like there's King
Speaker 3: T from Compton, you know what I'm saying, There's Toddy
Speaker 3: T mixed, Master Spade, all the people that kind of
Speaker 3: carried us on their backs, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 3: that was doing the skate lands and the world on
Speaker 3: wheels and you know, small spots and just just just
Speaker 3: making it, not thinking that this was going to be
Speaker 3: a billion dollar industry. You know, Deaf, Jeff Ice, t Q,
Speaker 3: all of n w A, you know, everybody was special,
Speaker 3: all of that death Row catalog, you know, and then
Speaker 3: there was just cats that you know, DJ Quick you
Speaker 3: know Quick Quick was it dude man that.
Speaker 1: You know?
Speaker 3: Yeah, Quick was just he was just special with rhodium
Speaker 3: swap meat tapes, you know what I'm saying. So it's
Speaker 3: hard to say who did the most because everybody put everybody,
Speaker 3: you know, and we look at the Kendricks of the world,
Speaker 3: you know, like Boom, that's bomb game, you know, like
Speaker 3: Game is a hell a hello lyricist to me, you know,
Speaker 3: so I think that there's so problem. I can go
Speaker 3: on and on, bro, there's so many people that put
Speaker 3: on for us, you know, Cypress Hill saying be real
Speaker 3: Mugs seven eighty three, like come on man, kid Frost,
Speaker 3: like we got represented so well by so many people. Yeah, man,
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. And he was saying that
Speaker 3: when nobody was saying it, like it it's not for
Speaker 3: you anyway, this is for Valosa, you know. And then
Speaker 3: when you hear it now you're like, damn, that was Yeah.
Speaker 3: I was just watching that Hip Hop fifty and watching
Speaker 3: JJ FAD and it's just so many beautiful things. You
Speaker 3: fast forward down to the Mustards, the YG the Tigers
Speaker 3: like hmm we we we we put a lot in
Speaker 3: always been.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm gonna give you a few names, either first
Speaker 2: thing to come to mind, or something a memorable moment
Speaker 2: you had with them.
Speaker 3: DMX, DMX man. I got a few with DMX, but
Speaker 3: DMX man he one of my last sit downs with DMX,
Speaker 3: he stood up and he performed in the studio for me,
Speaker 3: and when he did slipping, it was eerie. And then
Speaker 3: when I look back at it now, I just get
Speaker 3: a different vibe from it. But DMX I remember one time, Bro,
Speaker 3: we were at a show and you know, he always
Speaker 3: in the prayer, so we praying backstage and in a
Speaker 3: circle of prayer, and then when we got on stage,
Speaker 3: you know, he's praying on stage, praying on stage, and
Speaker 3: then I remember he looked, he literally looked at his
Speaker 3: girl like you were there. Can I curse on him?
Speaker 3: You right there? I want to fuck you? And we're like,
Speaker 3: man like about the prayer right there? He said, he said, no, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 3: no no, I want to pray for you. I want
Speaker 3: to fuck you, you know. But that's d m X
Speaker 3: man due DMX man here, But yeah, man, I want
Speaker 3: to pray. I want to pray for you. I want
Speaker 3: to fuck you.
Speaker 1: Yeah man.
Speaker 3: The legendary dog Snoop Snoop Man, Snoop Uh. I got
Speaker 3: quite a few with dog Man. But I remember one
Speaker 3: night I was having a birthday party and every year
Speaker 3: I would have somebody come and Snoop around that time.
Speaker 3: Snoop is heavy into his Snoop you football, so I
Speaker 3: would years. You know, my birthday fell during the season
Speaker 3: and Dog would lock himself in, so he would, you know,
Speaker 3: respectfully like big you know. So when I finally got
Speaker 3: him one year, that's why I said, dog, I really
Speaker 3: want you to do it this year. Man, I got you.
Speaker 3: I got you. He told me he'd do it for free.
Speaker 3: That's a dog. Just send them transportation. So you know
Speaker 3: many coaches where it's like fixed up on the inside
Speaker 3: and everything I send. I had a mini coach I
Speaker 3: didn't send the mind. I sent him another one from
Speaker 3: one of my partner's companies. And they, you know, all
Speaker 3: Snoop is in the car, they're forty five minutes out.
Speaker 3: He's on his way. He's on his way, all right, cool.
Speaker 3: Next thing I know, dog is there somebody come from
Speaker 3: get me there? Like hey man? They said, the bus
Speaker 3: smells like yah seline. And I'm like what, I go
Speaker 3: in the bus man, and it's smelled like a gas
Speaker 3: leak so much that dog was afraid to smoke. You know,
Speaker 3: it must be bad if the dog's not gonna smoke.
Speaker 3: So that night, bro, I almost killed Snoop by putting
Speaker 3: this dude in the in that bus. So literally I
Speaker 3: sent him home in my bus and I got home
Speaker 3: with my people and the bus when they were taking
Speaker 3: his bus back to the yard. It caught on fire.
Speaker 3: So on my YouTube channel, I got the whole story
Speaker 3: of the night almost killed Snoop Dogg. And you know
Speaker 3: how Snoop do is his interviews, Man, I don't know
Speaker 3: who did his uh research. Everything was wrong, you know,
Speaker 3: dog man, because you wrote a book. Tell me about
Speaker 3: this book, man, what made you write a book? I'm like, dog,
Speaker 3: I wrote that book ten years ago. Okay, every day
Speaker 3: everything was wrong, manh.
Speaker 1: Kanye little run right now. Miami dropped a snipper.
Speaker 3: Hell yeah, man, last night, Kanye. Man, I've had some
Speaker 3: of the most resting nights with Kanye, especially during the
Speaker 3: life of Pablo. Kanye would call me one in the morning,
Speaker 3: I need you to come here something.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 3: Kanye was like my dog. I don't mess with him
Speaker 3: as much right now, but Kanye was, you know, creative genius.
Speaker 3: He was my dog. And I remember one night, man,
Speaker 3: I was literally at Coachella watching and I'm watching the
Speaker 3: Weekend and I'm far back watching the Weekend, sitting down
Speaker 3: on this like this riser, and my phone kept going
Speaker 3: off and I'm looking like, damn, it's Kanye. And you know,
Speaker 3: when Kanye when he needs something, I need something when
Speaker 3: he want to holler it's something Big. So I picked
Speaker 3: up the phone. Big. I'm like, what's up? Where are
Speaker 3: you at. I'm like, man, I'm at Coachella. Man, I
Speaker 3: need you to I got a plane. I need you
Speaker 3: to come to Africa. I'm like, man, bro, I'm at Coachella. No, No,
Speaker 3: I got a plane right there. Man, just go to
Speaker 3: such and such. I need you to come to Africa
Speaker 3: right now. I'm like, Man, I can't. I gotta go
Speaker 3: to work. I don't have nothing. We're gonna shop when
Speaker 3: you get here. Get on the plane and go to Africa.
Speaker 1: Africa.
Speaker 3: Family, Yeah, man, you know what I'm saying. How do
Speaker 3: I call my wife?
Speaker 4: Like?
Speaker 3: Yeah, baby, take the kids tomorrow. I gotta go to Africa.
Speaker 1: Be right back.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Like and Africa is not like somebody saying, hey, man,
Speaker 3: can you come out to Riverside. You know what I'm saying, Like,
Speaker 3: that's somebody tell you go to Riverside from Coachella. You're
Speaker 3: already like okay, man, I can probably make it there
Speaker 3: for thirty forty five minutes from Coachello. Africa, Yeah, my
Speaker 3: man said, Africa.
Speaker 2: Got a jet waiting on you got a jet waiting
Speaker 2: that's part Kendrick.
Speaker 3: Kendrick Man, Kendrick, uh. I remember I asked Kendrick. I said, Kendrick,
Speaker 3: I said, man, what's your wacked song? And he said
Speaker 3: it was a song called Bitch I'm in the Club.
Speaker 3: And we found it and when we played it back
Speaker 3: and it's and it's it's online. When we played it
Speaker 3: back for dude, he was literally like melting in his
Speaker 3: seat and it was like, bitch I'm in the club.
Speaker 3: By Kendrick standards, it wasn't what Kendrick what he is today.
Speaker 3: But man, his worst was man, his worst could have
Speaker 3: been somebody else's best. And I was like, man, when
Speaker 3: you were doing that then he was like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 3: you're trying to act like you like it was like
Speaker 3: when you did that song, did you think it was whack?
Speaker 3: Back then, like you don't press play like, man, you
Speaker 3: want to hear something horrible. Listen to this, look at
Speaker 3: your head is not shacking. That's what I was. That's
Speaker 3: what I was aiming for. But yeah, that's why Kendreck things.
Speaker 3: Just watching him melting his seat, bro, that's fun. Fifty
Speaker 3: fifty oh, man, oh, fifty years ago. I lost the
Speaker 3: bat to fifty cent and I literally had to He
Speaker 3: had some kind of mirrored looking chrome Lamborghini that I
Speaker 3: had to wash at the station in front of listeners.
Speaker 3: And it was one of those cars where when you wipe,
Speaker 3: it didn't look like it was dry, so I had
Speaker 3: to keep on wiping it. But losing that bet to him.
Speaker 3: Then when I came back, I remember I got I
Speaker 3: got another bed on him and I got them for
Speaker 3: ten racks and that was like my payback. That was
Speaker 3: that was definitely my payback, man. And another time was
Speaker 3: going to his house in Connecticut, the one that he
Speaker 3: bought from Mike Tyson. You ever been to that house, bro,
Speaker 3: If the house was ridiculous, he had to be a
Speaker 3: young rapper to buy that, or a young boxer with
Speaker 3: lions and tigers and bears on mine, right, because it
Speaker 3: was ridiculous, man, Like you could literally be in that
Speaker 3: house and he wouldn't know that you were on the
Speaker 3: other side of that house that it was. It was ridiculous, man.
Speaker 3: He said he was spending like seven hundred thou a year.
Speaker 1: Just an okay, that's crazy. Michael Jackson.
Speaker 3: Oh Man, Michael Jackson, there's there's a few with Michael too. Man, Like,
Speaker 3: Michael was laughing at things that I thought he shouldn't
Speaker 3: have been laughing at, you know what I'm saying, Like,
Speaker 3: I was really like this, mam, did you have you
Speaker 3: met Michael? Okay? I was like, yeah, Like should Michael
Speaker 3: really be laughing at this?
Speaker 1: You know?
Speaker 3: And he caught me in rare form and we you know,
Speaker 3: it's just us. So I'm you know, I'm big boy,
Speaker 3: and I'm just having fun. But I remember he asked me,
Speaker 3: he said, can you go to a store and can
Speaker 3: you go shopping? And I'm like yeah, he said, so
Speaker 3: you can. You can go into a store and you
Speaker 3: can just like shop and put things in the cart
Speaker 3: and no one bothered you. I say, they'll bother me,
Speaker 3: but you know, I can go shopping. And he thought
Speaker 3: that that was like so big. He was like, so
Speaker 3: do you go shopping? And I was like yeah. He
Speaker 3: was like, and you put things in the cart in public?
Speaker 3: And I'm like yeah, I said, man, And I told him,
Speaker 3: I said, who the fuck you think I am? Michael Jackson? Yeah,
Speaker 3: you know, but yeah, Mike would and I remember he
Speaker 3: told us it was the Cees show going on and
Speaker 3: he wanted to hang that whole day and he was
Speaker 3: like he told him, he said, yeah, And where I
Speaker 3: am was like, oh, you know the c S Show
Speaker 3: electronic show out here in Vegas, and he was like,
Speaker 3: we should go together, let's all go, let's go. We'll
Speaker 3: go after hours. And I was like, this dude know
Speaker 3: that he can make a call and they'll keep the
Speaker 3: CEES doors open for him because he's Michael Jackson. That
Speaker 3: that was the craziest bro. And I remember at one
Speaker 3: point when I went to grab his arm and I
Speaker 3: was expecting something like like frail man, I went and
Speaker 3: touch his arm, like oh shit, like Mike's been, you know,
Speaker 3: saying yeah, but oh man, oh man, I can't do that.
Speaker 1: So you can. He's smiled.
Speaker 2: He's smiling right now, go ahead, right now.
Speaker 3: So we up there?
Speaker 1: Oh man, kay, I'm gonna get you some more water.
Speaker 3: Yeah man, they got to say, so we're up. And
Speaker 3: so were listening to some music because he brought ourselves
Speaker 3: to listen to some music.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 3: So literally, it's me and Fuzzy and where I am.
Speaker 3: Fuzzy and I are sitting on his couch and if
Speaker 3: you guys know, you know my boy Fuzzy. Fuzzy's a
Speaker 3: piece of shit, right, And so we're sitting and this
Speaker 3: is Michael. That's definitely your boy. Yeah. We're sitting on
Speaker 3: the sofa, on the sofa and there's the mixing board
Speaker 3: right here, the soundboard, and so Mike is sitting at
Speaker 3: the board, but he's sitting sideways, so our profile is
Speaker 3: him sideways. But we're looking at him, and I know
Speaker 3: Fuzzy's thinking the same thing, like, dude, this is Michael Jackson. Bro,
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, Like, this is Michael. And
Speaker 3: so I'm not even looking at fuzz I'm looking at Mike.
Speaker 3: And I know that Fuzzy is looking at Mike, right,
Speaker 3: And so I just happened to do like this because
Speaker 3: when I listen to music, I have my eyes closed,
Speaker 3: and so at one point I look up and and
Speaker 3: Mike sitting at the sideways at the board, and he's
Speaker 3: like doing a Michael thing, right, and I'm looking at him.
Speaker 3: Then I see my man go like this. I looked
Speaker 3: at so I looked this way. I don't know. He
Speaker 3: adjusted his hair, and I remember do I just looked
Speaker 3: at Fuzzy like but it was the quickest did you
Speaker 3: see that now, and I don't know what it was,
Speaker 3: but whatever whatever result, it was beautiful. They need an adjustment,
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. And we just happened to
Speaker 3: look up like and I remember dude just looking at
Speaker 3: Fuzzy like and fuzzed tacky fuzzy. Well yeah, man, Now
Speaker 3: watch all the Michael Jackson fans get mad at me,
Speaker 3: fight me.
Speaker 2: Uh, there's obviously a handful of unfortunate moments while you
Speaker 2: are on the air. Speak to us, you know how
Speaker 2: it hits you and what kind of day it was
Speaker 2: on the radio first and foremost part when he passed.
Speaker 3: Pac Man Poc, we didn't have social media, you know
Speaker 3: what I'm saying. We didn't have social media. It was
Speaker 3: one of those things where there was no TMZ, you know.
Speaker 3: So when Poc got shot, of course we all knew
Speaker 3: Poc got shot, you know, And so I started hearing
Speaker 3: rumblings that Poc passed. So I get to the station
Speaker 3: and at this time, I'm working like the three to
Speaker 3: eight shift. I'm not in the mornings yet, and I'm
Speaker 3: hearing Poc past. So you know, you start making calls. Man,
Speaker 3: you hear anything about pocket, you adn't think about pock.
Speaker 3: So we get to somebody that's really that really know
Speaker 3: and they're like, yeah, man, you know Poc past. I'm like, damn.
Speaker 3: So we're in an office and we're all trying to
Speaker 3: find this lead on Pocket, not to be the first
Speaker 3: one and be the bearer of bad news. But I
Speaker 3: remember I had to tell La that we lost Poc
Speaker 3: and so it literally felt like you know when you
Speaker 3: a kid, or when you're graduating, you do that graduation
Speaker 3: walk where it's one foot here and it's one foot there.
Speaker 3: It literally felt like I was doing the graduation walk
Speaker 3: through quick saying. I didn't want to walk down the hallway.
Speaker 3: I didn't want to turn on my MIC. I didn't
Speaker 3: want to tell La because I didn't want to say it.
Speaker 3: I didn't want to hear it. I didn't want to
Speaker 3: believe it. I love Pac. So walking down and turning
Speaker 3: on my mic, and soon as you start to show,
Speaker 3: you know, do your call letters power one six. You know,
Speaker 3: we got some unfortunate news. You know, we just heard that,
Speaker 3: you know, Tupac's your core passed. And I remember, dude,
Speaker 3: the phone lines just lit up. And to this day,
Speaker 3: I'll still get people that say, man, I heard pop
Speaker 3: pass from you. You know, I heard POC and not
Speaker 3: knowing that this dude that I sat on the same
Speaker 3: bed with leg to leg and had these conversations or whatever,
Speaker 3: that I would be the one that would break the news.
Speaker 3: And then fast forward when I so when I do
Speaker 3: a rewind from his star, that's all the things that
Speaker 3: I was rewinding when I have had the opportunity. It
Speaker 3: was honored to do his star ceremony. But yeah, that
Speaker 3: was one of those things that was that was hard.
Speaker 3: Speaking to La Biggie. Oh Man, Biggie was another one.
Speaker 3: Biggie Biggie passed on March ninth, my birthday, man, and
Speaker 3: it was if I think that year it was a Sunday,
Speaker 3: if I'm not mistaken, and because I wasn't on air
Speaker 3: that day, and I remember the same way, you know,
Speaker 3: it wasn't burnt up on social media by the time
Speaker 3: we got to work. And that was another one where
Speaker 3: you felt like like damn, like big pass, like this
Speaker 3: is what's happening, this is what this is what's going on.
Speaker 3: And then the way that it happened in La, it
Speaker 3: was just it was it was just a feeling where
Speaker 3: you're like, oh man, you know and I remember the
Speaker 3: last time I saw Big. I was at the Palace,
Speaker 3: but I think it's like the Avalon or something now.
Speaker 3: And literally somebody was like, oh, you know, you want
Speaker 3: to take a picture with Big and I was like, oh, man,
Speaker 3: I'm cool. I said, he's gonna come to the station.
Speaker 3: I get it when he comes, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: Never never came. But that was one of those things
Speaker 3: where that that one personally hurt too, you know, because
Speaker 3: because Big dude, that was he was a very good dude, man,
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, And that one, that one
Speaker 3: hurt too. Like it was just one of those things
Speaker 3: the way that happened, you know, where it happened, at
Speaker 3: how it happened, and you think, man, like when you
Speaker 3: know it was fucked up at the time, but when
Speaker 3: you think about these dudes being you know, twenty five
Speaker 3: eighties bro, you know with you know, he had a son,
Speaker 3: the Moms and you know what I'm saying, it was
Speaker 3: just it was just a shitty situation.
Speaker 1: Bro. Nip man, mm hmm.
Speaker 3: Nip was a nip was Nip was like that was
Speaker 3: that was another one, bro, Like, Nip was real hard.
Speaker 1: You had a close relationship with him too. That was ad.
Speaker 3: Like just you know how good brother was, you know,
Speaker 3: and uh, just the way he was in the room
Speaker 3: with everybody. He looked at everybody and you knew he
Speaker 3: was special.
Speaker 1: So h.
Speaker 3: That was all you know, that was because it's crazy
Speaker 3: because you know, I have a chair in my studio
Speaker 3: and that chair it is like it's my interview in chairs.
Speaker 3: So if I'm here, the guests is right there and
Speaker 3: in that chair. We were talking Jose and I think
Speaker 3: Jose we're talking one day man and I was talking
Speaker 3: about the chair and I was like, dude, I said
Speaker 3: that chair, Andre Herrel, Juice World, Nipsey DMX, anybody else,
Speaker 3: Mac Miller like Juice, I said, Juice WRLD. Those are
Speaker 3: people that sat in that chair that were in studio
Speaker 3: that's not with us anymore. But when Nip man, Nip
Speaker 3: was like, you know, I missed it. What's up? Bro?
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. The phone calls or him
Speaker 3: always trying to lay like a book on you, and
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, You're thinking hip hop, this
Speaker 3: dude telling you to go read Socrates or some shit
Speaker 3: like that. But he just really he was always good
Speaker 3: in the room. He looked at everybody, he talked to everybody.
Speaker 3: He was wise beyond his years, man, so wise behind
Speaker 3: it beyond these years man. And and that was just
Speaker 3: a hard one, Bro. And not only was it hard,
Speaker 3: he died in a social media climate. You know, I
Speaker 3: didn't see nothing too crazy about park I didn't see
Speaker 3: nothing too crazy about Big, But I watched a video
Speaker 3: that I wish I'd never watched with Nim, you know
Speaker 3: what I'm saying, And watching that and knowing you know,
Speaker 3: his family and knowing you know, Sam, it just hit hard.
Speaker 4: Bro.
Speaker 3: That that one was a hard one.
Speaker 4: That one, That one hurt everybody going on the globe
Speaker 4: because you've got a lot of people in the hip
Speaker 4: hop game, but ninety percent of them aren't leaders.
Speaker 1: That was a leader.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: He was a leader in the leader.
Speaker 3: What was next? What was coming? You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 3: What was coming?
Speaker 1: Bro?
Speaker 3: And you know, and just like with Parking Big and
Speaker 3: Soldiers that we lost before, like hopefully we we just
Speaker 3: learned something from that. You know, we learned something either
Speaker 3: with Nip, learned about you know, being an entrepreneur, learning
Speaker 3: your you know, like I remember when Nip did that
Speaker 3: was was it proud to pay Dave? Yeah? And man,
Speaker 3: I was never so proud to pay one hundred dollars
Speaker 3: for a CD in my life, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: But he was just.
Speaker 3: Outside the box.
Speaker 1: Bro.
Speaker 3: You know he was outside the box, man.
Speaker 1: So shut up. Brother David Gross too? Yeah? Man?
Speaker 3: What if David Gross?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Man, big business partner, Nip Kobe?
Speaker 3: Oh man, Kobe too? Bro? Kobe shooting y'all? Man, you
Speaker 3: come on, man, y'all got real ones, you know what
Speaker 3: I mean?
Speaker 1: Kobe?
Speaker 3: Like, for one, I had Kobe his whole basketball career. Yeah, man,
Speaker 3: So you know we seeing the winds, the Al's, the championships,
Speaker 3: you know, the wife, the kids, it's just the everything. Kobe.
Speaker 3: And I remember the way that I heard about Kobe
Speaker 3: passing is what really kind of like like really like
Speaker 3: fucked me up? Man.
Speaker 1: I was.
Speaker 3: It was a Sunday, and I remember my wife was
Speaker 3: driving and no I was driving. My wife was in
Speaker 3: the passenger seat and my daughters with her friends behind us.
Speaker 3: And my daughter called and I'm driving and I hear
Speaker 3: my wife say Kobe died in the immediatem. I'm like,
Speaker 3: and she was like, what Kobe Kobe Bryant, and I'm
Speaker 3: sitting here like what's going on? And at that time,
Speaker 3: early on, you know, it was other people in the
Speaker 3: helicopter this you know that Fox and so I remember
Speaker 3: when we got to where we were going. You know,
Speaker 3: we started, you know, making phone calls and and fill
Speaker 3: things out.
Speaker 1: But that hit.
Speaker 3: It hit man, it hit the city, hit you personally,
Speaker 3: and then you know, as a dad and you know
Speaker 3: he and Gigi, the other lives, you know. I remember
Speaker 3: my daughter came to me and she asked me. She said,
Speaker 3: she said, Dad, she said, do you think he had
Speaker 3: a chance to hug her? You know? And I was like,
Speaker 3: I hope. So, you know, and your mind go a
Speaker 3: thousand miles in a second, and you know what's happening.
Speaker 3: And that's where I go, like, man, what was brother thinking?
Speaker 3: What was he feeling? You know? And when you just
Speaker 3: started seeing them memorials and things stopping down, and you know,
Speaker 3: the phone calls and I remember, dude, my radio show,
Speaker 3: the same with Nip when we turned on our mics,
Speaker 3: so we had to go live. When we turned on
Speaker 3: our mics, it was probably two to three minutes of
Speaker 3: crying before anybody said a word.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 3: I couldn't. I couldn't muster it up. I couldn't like, oh, man,
Speaker 3: you know you've been here before. Each one of them. Man,
Speaker 3: I think I'm a sensitive person anyway, each one of
Speaker 3: them just meant something something totally different. You know.
Speaker 1: Thank you for sharing. That was tough for you and Matt.
Speaker 3: I remember, you know you've been to the living room, bro.
Speaker 3: Like I remember going to my house after we left
Speaker 3: that little get together. I remember going to my house
Speaker 3: and I could smell I could smell the it was
Speaker 3: on the other side of the yep, I could smell
Speaker 3: it in my house, man, like the propane or whatever,
Speaker 3: the gasoline. I was like, dam I could you could
Speaker 3: smell it? Like y right there?
Speaker 1: All right? Something a little lighter?
Speaker 3: You sure?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Explain death of my mom about the last time you
Speaker 3: saw your mom. Huh what what about it?
Speaker 1: Oh?
Speaker 3: Yeah, definitely. Yeah. I'm just saying, be like, yeah, big
Speaker 3: talk about so your brother had a stroke. Talk to
Speaker 3: me about that.
Speaker 2: Phone taps something legendary, uh, that that we grew up on.
Speaker 2: Did you have to clear the sample of phone taps
Speaker 2: from Yeah?
Speaker 3: Yeah, Dre, Dre, Dre, let me get it. He definitely
Speaker 3: let me get it, man. Yeah, it was just one
Speaker 3: of those things where we all played jokes on the phone.
Speaker 3: It was just one night. Man. I would learn, Like
Speaker 3: I had to learn how to use the board when
Speaker 3: I first got into radio, and man, I wasn't even
Speaker 3: trying to touch that board for like my first six months.
Speaker 3: So we were just get on there. And when they
Speaker 3: told me, hey, you got to learn how to work
Speaker 3: the board, I started doing overnights till how to work
Speaker 3: the board. So that was like midnight till like five
Speaker 3: thirty six o'clock in the morning when the Baker Boys
Speaker 3: came on. So I still have my board out there
Speaker 3: trying to teach me things. So literally I would call
Speaker 3: businesses that was open and we had a reel to
Speaker 3: reel and I just record them. We're playing back, laugh
Speaker 3: and all that kind of shit, just for us, and
Speaker 3: I put them in my locker. Years later, I played
Speaker 3: one for my producer Jason Ryan, and he was like, Oh,
Speaker 3: we should play this on the air. Played it, people laugh.
Speaker 3: You got another one, played it, people laugh. He said,
Speaker 3: how many do you have? Only had like probably five
Speaker 3: of them. He said, I think we should start doing
Speaker 3: this on the air every day. You know, and so
Speaker 3: I didn't have a name for the bit. It was
Speaker 3: just you know, prank calls. And so one day the
Speaker 3: lady asked me my name and I was like, oh,
Speaker 3: you know my name, Oh, Steve Larkas and she was like, okay,
Speaker 3: Steve Larkas. And so Steve Larkas was a name for
Speaker 3: like a couple of phone taps. And then one time
Speaker 3: another person asked me my name and I said Steve
Speaker 3: Lufay and boom, okay, y'all Steve Lufa And for some
Speaker 3: reason this lady asked me, oh, your name, I said,
Speaker 3: Luther Loofe. There it is, and she said lou Fae.
Speaker 3: She said how do you spell that? And so I
Speaker 3: said l u f f e. I g h. The
Speaker 3: first F is silent. And I told Jason, I said,
Speaker 3: every time I do one of these calls, I won't
Speaker 3: say lutheror loufe, you know. And and it happened on accident.
Speaker 1: You have the you have one that was most member one. No,
Speaker 1: you've done a time.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I got a few. I got I got a few. Man.
Speaker 3: It's this thing called one of them is called follow
Speaker 3: Lola Lights and it's the it's the holiday season and
Speaker 3: I tell this dude that he won this like extravagant
Speaker 3: light show on his house, and we're gonna come out
Speaker 3: and put these lights on. And the way that you
Speaker 3: get them is if I just called you and I
Speaker 3: was like, hey, we got a light show, and you'll
Speaker 3: be like, man, fuck you and you hang up. But
Speaker 3: when I call and I say, ah, right, man, I
Speaker 3: speak to Matt Barnes, all this this is Matt. This
Speaker 3: is Matt as such, and I give you your address.
Speaker 3: You're invested. I got your phone number, I got your address,
Speaker 3: and then I just play you slow like, oh, yeah, okay,
Speaker 3: so I'm about thirty five minutes. I wait, thirty five
Speaker 3: minutes out of what? Oh I'm on my way. We
Speaker 3: just got sidetracked at another job. What do you mean
Speaker 3: sidetracked at another job? Oh, we're coming to do your lights.
Speaker 3: You wanted the Christmas lights from follow a Lata Lights?
Speaker 3: What is follow a Lalla Lights? So now I'm investing.
Speaker 3: You're investing because I told you your address, your name,
Speaker 3: all this shit right, My man went off. My man
Speaker 3: told me the last thing he said before you hung
Speaker 3: up on me. My man said, you could suck this
Speaker 3: shit out of my ass I'm a motherfucker man. Fuck
Speaker 3: that mother. Like I never heard nobody say you could
Speaker 3: suck this shit out my eyes.
Speaker 1: That's crazy.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so that one. And it's another one that's crazy
Speaker 3: for this lady where I told her I was bringing
Speaker 3: a haunted house to her. I think I remember this way.
Speaker 1: I remember this one, and.
Speaker 3: She was going berserk.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 3: She was talking about how she live in a rise
Speaker 3: and I'm telling how we're gonna come and bust the
Speaker 3: windows out of placing Briny's ghouls and goblins and ship man.
Speaker 3: And I remember the last thing she said to me.
Speaker 3: And I said, there's gonna be kids for the candy.
Speaker 3: She was like, there aren't. There's gonna be candy for
Speaker 3: the kids. She said, there are no kids in this building.
Speaker 3: It's a fucking high rids hang up, but no, I
Speaker 3: got I got a volume. You know, I got many
Speaker 3: that I sit up and I'm just like, bro, what
Speaker 3: is wrong with you? Yeah? Yeah, and you know you
Speaker 3: know yeah, but yeah when they hang up, they gone,
Speaker 3: And I'm.
Speaker 2: Going, right, yeah, I want to when we cut the
Speaker 2: edit up, I want to get those two.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, definitely, definitely We're getting there.
Speaker 1: The finish line weight loss journey. What was your peak weight?
Speaker 3: My peak weight that I saw on the scale was
Speaker 3: five hundred eleven pounds. Now they see where you walking,
Speaker 3: man like, like, were you on your way to six
Speaker 3: hundred pound life with doctor? Now? No? But there was
Speaker 3: five hundred eleven pounds and that was on my surgery date.
Speaker 3: I got surgery about twenty years ago gas your bypass surgery.
Speaker 3: But I must have been bigger than that because the
Speaker 3: doctor told me, lose as much weight as you can
Speaker 3: from now to your surgery date. And I had about
Speaker 3: two weeks. And I know in two weeks off of
Speaker 3: that frame, I know, I probably could have lost forty pounds,
Speaker 3: you know, so probably, But that weight that I saw
Speaker 3: was five hundred eleven pounds.
Speaker 4: Who was the biggest impact that motivated you to keep
Speaker 4: going in your weight lost journey?
Speaker 1: Will Smith?
Speaker 3: Will Smith started it, you know what I'm saying. Will
Speaker 3: Smith started it, man, because I had been big like
Speaker 3: my whole life, and you know, like even when my
Speaker 3: mom passed, right, everything wasn't like a light switch, was
Speaker 3: like oh shit, I need to I need to get
Speaker 3: my shit together. Everything for me was more of a dimmer,
Speaker 3: you know. And then as the Dimmer's going. Then the
Speaker 3: light the room gets bright. Oh damn, I understand. But
Speaker 3: Will Smith, even though Will Smith's challenged man the weight
Speaker 3: loss challenge. I had Will Smith on and you know,
Speaker 3: off air, Wheel was talking about you know, did what
Speaker 3: about your health? And you know your age and so
Speaker 3: on and so forth, and I remember he told me,
Speaker 3: he said, man, well, let's do a weight loss challenge
Speaker 3: and I'll give you a one thousand dollars for every
Speaker 3: pound that you lose, and we're donated to charity. I'm thinking, cool,
Speaker 3: I love this, you know. I check in every week
Speaker 3: and then I'll come in and we'll just weigh you
Speaker 3: and so on and so forth. I'm not even thinking
Speaker 3: about health at this time. I'm thinking about man. I'm
Speaker 3: thinking the radio man I got Will Smith for six
Speaker 3: months dedicated to me. Yeah, I'll do this weight loss challenge.
Speaker 3: Get on. First week, I lose twenty six pounds, right,
Speaker 3: twenty six racks off the top boone. I lose one
Speaker 3: hundred and one pounds in six months. I could have
Speaker 3: lost more. I lost twenty six the first week. But
Speaker 3: my main thing was Will Smith. Will Smith calling in
Speaker 3: from the set, how you doing all right? Let's wear
Speaker 3: me in. You know, I get on. But this is radio.
Speaker 3: This ain't health you know what I'm saying, Man, this
Speaker 3: is radio. Oh it's Will Smith. Will Smith checking in
Speaker 3: Thursday seventeen, that kind of shit. So then when it
Speaker 3: comes to the actual end of the weight loss challenge,
Speaker 3: we got the local media there, the news is there,
Speaker 3: Will Smith, you know how to come with the oversized
Speaker 3: check and he signs it and all this stuff. It's
Speaker 3: great radio, great television. I'm literally on the scale and
Speaker 3: my boxes and a T shirt weighing in and I'm like, man,
Speaker 3: when I finished with this, I want to lafogatas and
Speaker 3: give me some chicken notches that was on my dome. Boom,
Speaker 3: All right, y'all, boom. I'm right back in the game.
Speaker 3: The challenge is over. And I had never felt slow
Speaker 3: like I still worked out. I did every you know,
Speaker 3: I'd had to park there in the front and waddle in.
Speaker 1: You know, no.
Speaker 3: Disrespect, I could say. I don't have to say no disrespect.
Speaker 3: She I was five hundred pounds. You know, I'm gonna
Speaker 3: get mad at me. But I remember I was walking
Speaker 3: through the Burbank Airport one time, man, and I had
Speaker 3: to stop and catch my breath and I felt the
Speaker 3: pain in my back. I never felt that before. But
Speaker 3: I had lost the weight and I was putting the
Speaker 3: weight back on so rapidly that I just felt like, man,
Speaker 3: I have to do something. I have to do something,
Speaker 3: you know, just before my kids and all that stuff.
Speaker 3: So I did that. I did that for me and
Speaker 3: I had a lot of complications, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 3: But that literally for me, that saved my life.
Speaker 1: The big pun have like did it wake you up?
Speaker 3: Or did it all that buffy from the but you
Speaker 3: like I said, it was a dimmer. My mom didn't
Speaker 3: wake me up, you know what I'm saying. So, yeah,
Speaker 3: you see the big puns of the world. I remember,
Speaker 3: in fact, Joe and I we were talking with pun
Speaker 3: past and I remember he was like, yeah, you know,
Speaker 3: big we got to take care of ourselves, and you know,
Speaker 3: we made a commitment. But you know now, you see Joe,
Speaker 3: he's good. You see me, I'm good. But it took
Speaker 3: me ten years to just learn nutrition because you don't
Speaker 3: get a gas your bypass surgery and then wake up
Speaker 3: and it's just you know, yeah, and even up until
Speaker 3: a couple of years ago, Man, I went to this
Speaker 3: place called the Hoffmann Institute where you do this thing
Speaker 3: called the process. And that's why I even learned even
Speaker 3: more about my addiction and my love affair with food.
Speaker 3: You know, you eat when you're happy, eat when you sad,
Speaker 3: eat when you celebrate, eat when you depress, whatever it is.
Speaker 3: I was constantly eating, you know, and you had to
Speaker 3: learn where those triggers came from as well. And I
Speaker 3: think now, even right now, I'm on a program where
Speaker 3: you know, I'm on a not a as Richard Simmons
Speaker 3: would say, I think it was Richard Simmons, It's not
Speaker 3: a diet, it's a living. So I just live and
Speaker 3: I you know, I don't eat after eight I don't
Speaker 3: eat you know, pastas and breads and potatoes and things
Speaker 3: of that nature. I just, you know, I work out,
Speaker 3: you know. But shit, I paid a lot into you know,
Speaker 3: I paid a lot of tuition to the School of Experience, bro.
Speaker 3: But I was able to get out and possibly I
Speaker 3: think I saved my life.
Speaker 4: Congratulations, Yeah, yes, sir. What's your advice to anyone who's
Speaker 4: on the weight loss journey?
Speaker 3: One day at a time, one moment at a time,
Speaker 3: one minute at a time, one second at a time,
Speaker 3: you know, and people don't see. You know, it'll take
Speaker 3: you sometimes, it'll take you. It's quicker to lose it
Speaker 3: than it is to gain it. Because I gained the
Speaker 3: wait my whole life. It didn't take me a lifetime
Speaker 3: to lose it, you know. And I don't mean like
Speaker 3: ten pounds on and so forth. But that's that's the
Speaker 3: biggest thing.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 3: We we'll take care of so many other people we
Speaker 3: don't take I didn't take care of myself and not
Speaker 3: we and they and you. I didn't take care of myself.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 3: I would put the highest octane into my car, but
Speaker 3: I wouldn't put the best octained into my body. You
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. I worry more about other people
Speaker 3: than I worried about me. And the first thing they
Speaker 3: tell you when you get on the plane, they say,
Speaker 3: you know, secure.
Speaker 1: Your mass anybody else?
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like, so if I'm not taking care of me,
Speaker 3: how do I take care of my kids?
Speaker 1: You know?
Speaker 3: And it's just been for me. I see so many
Speaker 3: different sides too, you know, I see the prejudice, you
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. I see you know, when I
Speaker 3: was walking down the aisle getting on Southwest Plains. I
Speaker 3: know people didn't want to sit next to me. You
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. I see that now that I'm smaller,
Speaker 3: and I see I see certain things and they don't know.
Speaker 3: You know, I'm in the club. Yeah, you know, I'm
Speaker 3: in the club. But I just tell people that whatever
Speaker 3: your journey is, man, you know, it's a it's a
Speaker 3: lifetime journey. It's a journey where any other addiction, right, yeah,
Speaker 3: and every day is not going to be the best day.
Speaker 3: And you know, I just try to do a little
Speaker 3: bit better than I did yesterday.
Speaker 1: You know. Question.
Speaker 2: Now, this could be urban legend and we don't even
Speaker 2: have to talk about it, but any truth to you
Speaker 2: got to rest one time and hit a gun in
Speaker 2: your fold and it went undetected. We don't have to talk
Speaker 2: about if you don't want to know, get looped it.
Speaker 3: But its motherfucker Can I can I tell you the story?
Speaker 3: Please let me tell you this story.
Speaker 1: Bro.
Speaker 3: So I was bodyguarding the forest side, right And when
Speaker 3: I was bodyguarding the forest side, we had to go
Speaker 3: to the Bay Area to do some shows like Souls
Speaker 3: and Mischief, you know, and so uh OJ is on
Speaker 3: the fucking four or five that day.
Speaker 1: Really, so we're literally the hell of a way to
Speaker 1: start the day.
Speaker 3: Watching OJ and his boy on in the Bronco. Yeah, man,
Speaker 3: in a major way. So we're watching this and we're
Speaker 3: missing planes. The guys don't want to leave their their
Speaker 3: glued to the TV. So I'm booking other flights. Okay,
Speaker 3: we can get you know, it's the Bay. There's a
Speaker 3: flight every hour. Okay, well make sure, make sure, make sure.
Speaker 3: So now we get to a point where we can't fly,
Speaker 3: were like, forget it, let's just rent a van. So
Speaker 3: one of my guys go get a Reno van. Now
Speaker 3: already had a gun on me, right, so I figured,
Speaker 3: I'm like, man, if we're going to drive up, I'll
Speaker 3: just take my gun with me. So we drive up.
Speaker 3: They get what they do the shows, but now they
Speaker 3: want to stay with Souls and Mischief to do some recording.
Speaker 3: So I'm like, all right, man, when I want to
Speaker 3: get back to the crib, because I was still doing
Speaker 3: other things at the house, so I gonna get back
Speaker 3: to the house. I said, man, when y'all get home,
Speaker 3: drive my gun back home. I flew back home. I
Speaker 3: left them the van. So when they get back to La.
Speaker 3: They called me up and they're like big, you know,
Speaker 3: we're backs on and so forth. So now I have
Speaker 3: my other gun on me. Well, I'm going to go
Speaker 3: pick up the gun that I had with the forest sign.
Speaker 3: So I go, got my gun, go pick up the
Speaker 3: other gun. I'm driving back. As soon as I get
Speaker 3: to Covid City, boom and they lit me up. I
Speaker 3: had two warrants from my arrest already on some just
Speaker 3: some other small shit, small like traffic shit, right, And
Speaker 3: so I always told my brother, I said, hey, man,
Speaker 3: if they catch me on these warrants, I'm just gonna
Speaker 3: do the days. Don't bail me out. Just let me
Speaker 3: hold onto the cash. All right, Cool, that's understanding. So
Speaker 3: then I get pulled over. They come up. I'm in
Speaker 3: a white Astro van that I just bought, not knowing
Speaker 3: that when I bought this van, I bought it from
Speaker 3: this dude from thirties, right. I don't know the van
Speaker 3: van enough. So they sit me down, they go through
Speaker 3: my van. My man comes back to me, I said,
Speaker 3: where's the gun at I'm like, I don't have a gun.
Speaker 3: Where's the gun? I said, I don't have a gun,
Speaker 3: you know. And that's when we started, you know, officers, boss,
Speaker 3: So I don't have a gun, officer. So my man
Speaker 3: told me that in my seat that there was a
Speaker 3: slick because it had these cap in chairs with this material.
Speaker 3: When you pull the material up, dude cut a slit
Speaker 3: in there. But it was empty. So now where's the
Speaker 3: gun because you had a stash spot. I don't have
Speaker 3: a gun on me. Literally, I'm wearing a T shirt,
Speaker 3: some sweatshorts and the corduroy house shoes. Right, So my
Speaker 3: man get me, searches me up, doesn't find a gun,
Speaker 3: Sit down all right, starts going through my van, comes
Speaker 3: back to me, where's the gun, officer, I don't have
Speaker 3: a gun. Stands you back up. I'm wearing a T shirt, sweatpants,
Speaker 3: and house shoes. Searches me again. Sit down. So now
Speaker 3: I'm sitting there and I heard a dramatic Kurt Alexander
Speaker 3: warn Kurt Alexander worn out or something. I'm like, fuck.
Speaker 3: So my man come back and say you got some
Speaker 3: for your arrest, he said, And don't want to put
Speaker 3: a detective hold on your van because you want to
Speaker 3: tell me where the gun is at. I'm looking at
Speaker 3: this dude when he tells me stand back up. Now
Speaker 3: he searches me again. Now I'm looking at him, go
Speaker 3: to my van, and I see this dude tugging at
Speaker 3: my interior because now he got to he got a
Speaker 3: hold on it, tugging at my liners all this ship.
Speaker 3: I'm looking at him throwing ship out my van and
Speaker 3: I'm sitting on the curve. Now he comes back frustrated,
Speaker 3: stand up, stand up. Now he's behind me and he's
Speaker 3: literally going like this to me, like like taping, like
Speaker 3: my man to trure, come to take my van. He
Speaker 3: links me up, takes me to to uh it's Culver City.
Speaker 3: I get in there and make a phone call. I
Speaker 3: call my brother Mouse. I like Mouse, I say, hey, man,
Speaker 3: I said, you need to come and get me and
Speaker 3: got me on these warrants. What's going on? You teld me,
Speaker 3: don't bail you out. I'm like mouse, come get me now, Kurt,
Speaker 3: what's going on? What's going on? I'm like, Mouse, come bail
Speaker 3: me out. I got you, Come bail me out. He's
Speaker 3: still trying to get me to talk on the phone.
Speaker 3: So now this is probably like two three in the morning.
Speaker 3: The county bus comes about five six in the morning
Speaker 3: to pick you up and take you to La County.
Speaker 3: So if man, he must have got there in record time,
Speaker 3: because it's like a movie here and say, like, Alexander,
Speaker 3: you know, it's almost like a movie. You made bail.
Speaker 3: And as I'm walking out, there's a door with a window,
Speaker 3: and I'm looking at my brother and he's trying to
Speaker 3: make eye contact with me, like and I'm like walking
Speaker 3: I get out. I'm walking down the steps and he's
Speaker 3: still trying to talk to him and say, hold on
Speaker 3: for a second. We get down the street, I go
Speaker 3: under my stomach and I pull both guns out.
Speaker 1: Yeah too, not more.
Speaker 3: And when they lit me up, I slid both the
Speaker 3: guns under my stomach. And when dude was patting me down,
Speaker 3: he never lift my stomach. If I would have went
Speaker 3: to the county jail, they strip search you. So I
Speaker 3: had to make bail before that county bus can. Now
Speaker 3: this is what I was going to tell you early on.
Speaker 3: I get home. I'm exhausted from dealing with the Foreside.
Speaker 3: While I are in the Bay Area, flying back, you know,
Speaker 3: doing what I have to do at home, they come
Speaker 3: and bringing my gun. It's days of me being tired.
Speaker 3: I drive up pick up the guns come back. Now,
Speaker 3: I'm exhausted. I go to sleep, probably three four in
Speaker 3: the morning, go to sleep. Next morning, out here to
Speaker 3: knock on my bedroom door and I'm like wow, She's like,
Speaker 3: somebody's on the phone for you. I'm like, who is it?
Speaker 3: She says, he said, his name is Rick Cummins from
Speaker 3: Power one six.
Speaker 1: The next day, that.
Speaker 3: Morning is when I got that fucking phone call from
Speaker 3: Power changed my life. That's crazy, Yeah, ain't that crazy? Yeah,
Speaker 3: So maybe they would have called back, but that day
Speaker 3: I would have definitely missed that call because I was
Speaker 3: going to do that time.
Speaker 1: Boy got bailed out for he caught that James.
Speaker 3: Yeah, man, man, I would have coach just stack. I
Speaker 3: caught it.
Speaker 1: Well.
Speaker 3: I had a situation where I get I got caught
Speaker 3: with it with a firearm, you know, and showed up
Speaker 3: when that motherfucker tipped me. My man, he said, with
Speaker 3: your stomach up like you know, But they found my ship.
Speaker 3: Was they caught me slipping. I had it in my
Speaker 3: car at that time. Yeah, but yeah, I would have
Speaker 3: missed that call. I wouldn't sit here.
Speaker 1: That's one of the best stories we heard.
Speaker 2: Yeah, acting you've had some cameos long as Yard Charlie's
Speaker 2: Angels two, Project x N three Strikes to name a few.
Speaker 2: Any memorable experiences or you got a chance to work
Speaker 2: with a lot of great actors in those projects, Well,
Speaker 2: anyone that jumps out.
Speaker 3: I think when I did like Duce Bigelow with with
Speaker 3: Adam Sandler, that was one of those things, man, where
Speaker 3: Adam taught me a lot, because I love the way
Speaker 3: he treated his crew. You know, like I think when
Speaker 3: people say you set a tone, he set such a
Speaker 3: tone where he was cool, so everybody.
Speaker 1: Else was going to choice started at the top.
Speaker 3: Yeah, man, And he got me to you know, well,
Speaker 3: what do you get paid per movie? I wasn't making nothing,
Speaker 3: you know, I was doing you know, playing myself and
Speaker 3: that kind of shit. So he gave me a flat standard.
Speaker 3: And that standard is what got me into SAG for
Speaker 3: a certain amount. Every time somebody came, it was like, oh,
Speaker 3: well this is what what big gets. So that was
Speaker 3: a special one to me. That was a special one,
Speaker 3: and he really took care of me bro with because
Speaker 3: it was an Adam Sandler production with Rob Schnyder's Duce Bigelow,
Speaker 3: So that whole camp, with that whole thing was just amazing.
Speaker 1: Man who's big outside of work.
Speaker 3: Man, I'm a dad. I'm a dad and a husband.
Speaker 3: Outside of work. You see us, Matt Man, you see
Speaker 3: me and the family.
Speaker 1: Bro.
Speaker 3: You know my brothers and sisters I take care of.
Speaker 3: I'm kind of like you know, I think I'm quiet
Speaker 3: at the crib.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 3: People ask my wife like, oh, you must be laughing
Speaker 3: all the time, you know, if I can get a moment,
Speaker 3: of course we're gonna laugh at the crib. But I
Speaker 3: like the quiet.
Speaker 1: Sometimes, even when you're in public, you're not really.
Speaker 3: Telling you. I love the love. I don't run from
Speaker 3: that love. You know what I'm saying, Like people feed
Speaker 3: you for freedom of people. Isn't giving you ship when
Speaker 3: you needed it?
Speaker 1: You know?
Speaker 3: So yeah, like George Open said, man, motherfucker be like,
Speaker 3: I'll hook you up and be at Burger with nine
Speaker 3: meets who need that. But I'll take it. But no,
Speaker 3: I'm just away from away from you know, the public.
Speaker 3: I just if I can get home, man, and just sit.
Speaker 3: You know, we don't get a lot of those moments.
Speaker 3: So I cherish you. And I'm watching I'm watching my.
Speaker 1: Kids go fatherhood.
Speaker 2: Beautiful young daughter son who's excelling in high school basketball.
Speaker 2: What don like the boy the twins just got the
Speaker 2: high school finally their freshman Yeah. Man, I was just
Speaker 2: thinking about the other day. Remember when we saw each
Speaker 2: other in the Bahamas and the kids were like five maybe.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: No, It's magical, man, because you know, you'll have friends
Speaker 3: and family members and you'll see each other and you'll
Speaker 3: see you know, you'll see like, okay, we got some grade,
Speaker 3: we got this, we got that, you know. But with
Speaker 3: your kids. I remember my kids sleeping on my chest. Now,
Speaker 3: Jaden's taller than me, you know what I'm saying. It
Speaker 3: was times when he would go upstairs and he'd come
Speaker 3: downstairs and he just got taller. Like I see your boys.
Speaker 1: Man, I'm like, what exact sashes and girlfriends?
Speaker 3: Yeah, man, yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, I'm having these
Speaker 3: conversations with Jaden. You know, he's sixteen. Now. I don't
Speaker 3: put too much out there because all his homies, you know,
Speaker 3: but like, man, slow, you know, enjoy.
Speaker 2: But it's just good to be able to have that
Speaker 2: line of communication too.
Speaker 3: Yeah. So you don't know our kids. You know, they're handsome,
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, And they're popular, you know,
Speaker 3: I wasn't handsome growing up, so it was it was different,
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, Like, no, you don't oh
Speaker 3: you know, okay, you don't think so okay, okay.
Speaker 1: Cool, all right now quick hit this first thing to
Speaker 1: come to mind. Let us know most awkward interview.
Speaker 3: Bone Thugs in Harmony. Yeah, how long you guys been
Speaker 3: in the business forever? How old are you guys? Old enough?
Speaker 3: This interview is over, you know what I'm saying, and
Speaker 3: we man bone now to this day, those are my guys.
Speaker 3: That was their first like interview. I was new, they
Speaker 3: were new, and we just you know, we turned to
Speaker 3: MIC's off and we talked about it. You know what
Speaker 3: I'm saying. But yeah, it was. It was a very
Speaker 3: young big boy and a very young bone Thugs and harmony.
Speaker 1: Everybody was raw.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, I remember, dude, I didn't know how to
Speaker 3: let it go. And I remember at one point Busy
Speaker 3: had this bottle he had like a forty hous and
Speaker 3: he was looking he was looking like this, and he
Speaker 3: had just looked like, man, you don't shut the fuck up,
Speaker 3: Like man, I'm gonna take this bottle and bust you
Speaker 3: in your face with it because it wasn't like we
Speaker 3: were standing up about to scrap or anything. It was
Speaker 3: just one of the things where it was like the
Speaker 3: interview's over.
Speaker 1: Funniest interview.
Speaker 3: Funniest interview. Man, I've had so many, Bro, George Lopez
Speaker 3: makes me cry. Corey Holcom makes me cry, and he
Speaker 3: makes me nervous.
Speaker 1: Corey get out of the pocket.
Speaker 3: Yeah, oh my god, man, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 3: like and he don't care.
Speaker 1: And it makes me nervous.
Speaker 3: Hell, yeah, you know, funniest interview said at the end
Speaker 3: of Tainer, like I've had Dave Chappelle. Dave Chappelle. All
Speaker 3: he got to do is say hello, and I'm like you.
Speaker 3: But yeah, the man, you know, we have a good
Speaker 3: time in the neighborhood and we laugh a lot, so
Speaker 3: you know, we have a We've had a lot of
Speaker 3: guests that came through and made those moments even funnier.
Speaker 1: Who was your radio goat?
Speaker 3: Radio goat was? There's a couple of them. Man. I
Speaker 3: respect Tom Joyner, not knowing what Tom Joyning was doing
Speaker 3: a lot until I got in Frankie Crocker, But my
Speaker 3: goat was do you know Russ Parry, Russ Parr Bro
Speaker 3: Russ Parr when he used to do Bobby Jimmy on
Speaker 3: the original fifteen eighty KD f Am. That dude, man
Speaker 3: was he was like, it was like me, I didn't
Speaker 3: know that I was going to be a radio guy.
Speaker 3: And if like ludicrous attell me to this day he said, Man,
Speaker 3: you remind me of Russ Parr. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 3: because you just didn't know what was gonna come out
Speaker 3: this dude's mouth. It was never rude or nothing, but
Speaker 3: it was just like you knew you were going to
Speaker 3: laugh with that dude.
Speaker 1: That's always a good thing. Childhood crush like Star or
Speaker 1: just Star.
Speaker 3: Damn oh. I had a few of them, bro, Like
Speaker 3: when I got to thirteen and started touching myself. Sorry
Speaker 3: she was over there. What's the mama's name over there?
Speaker 3: Christ Christina did like, yeah, she's like, did I touch
Speaker 3: his hand when he came? No? I would say, man, uh,
Speaker 3: growing up, you know Janet Jackson early on man, and
Speaker 3: it's crazy because do you remember a group called Sister Sledge?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 1: What the fuck?
Speaker 3: Like, man, you look at them, but yeah, Sister Sledge
Speaker 3: and uh and I'm dating myself now. Jane Kennedy, you
Speaker 3: know I was a kid kid, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: So this is like my my childhood bro where I
Speaker 3: would look at women back Now you stopped that, You're crazy.
Speaker 1: One album you can listen to and repeat, no skips.
Speaker 3: I got a few of them, I would say, Bizarre
Speaker 3: Ride to the Far Side. And the reason why is
Speaker 3: because not only was that great music, it just takes
Speaker 3: me to a place that I got so many connections
Speaker 3: and so many memories to that. I know the show live,
Speaker 3: I know, I know the guys, I know them going
Speaker 3: to interviews, you know, I know from us being in
Speaker 3: a van to being on a plane, like there's a
Speaker 3: lot of investment into that, you know. And then if
Speaker 3: I just want to listen to anything like Darius Rutger
Speaker 3: from Who Theying to blow Fish from Darius Rutger. You
Speaker 3: know country artists now, but Darius is just one of
Speaker 3: those I could just put on it. But anybody that
Speaker 3: roll with me, I got different moods. I listened to
Speaker 3: all kind of shit. I've literally pulled up the valet
Speaker 3: and people like you listen to this, you know, I
Speaker 3: think I swim in the hip hop pool so much
Speaker 3: that sometimes just when you get just ring out you
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: How Snoop snoop? Listen?
Speaker 3: Yeah you go, yeah, you go? The dog? You know dog?
Speaker 3: Is this Tady Pendergrass? All kind of ship?
Speaker 1: Five against alive?
Speaker 3: My mom sitting with moms definitely, Uh, Martin Luther King.
Speaker 3: I think I take the five hundred thousand, so it
Speaker 3: won't be jay Z. You know they said five or
Speaker 3: jay Z so my mom, Martin Luther King, Uh, ship Oprah.
Speaker 3: I haven't met Oprah yet, so I sit. I'll sit
Speaker 3: with Oprah My brother Keith, so I could just, you know,
Speaker 3: tell him how instrumental he passed on. I could tell
Speaker 3: my instrumental he he wasn't you know, steering his baby
Speaker 3: brother into this music thing and ship last last seat
Speaker 3: Hm hmm. That's a hard one because I got a
Speaker 3: few that I get that last seat to man probably
Speaker 3: Tyson nice. Yeah, I like that.
Speaker 1: Jack.
Speaker 2: I'm excited about this last question. I think it's a
Speaker 2: good dude and it's roller Dex is fucking insane.
Speaker 4: Yes, and I'm gonna slow this question down. I'm actually
Speaker 4: DJ screw it. If you could see one guess on
Speaker 4: this show, who would it be? But but you have
Speaker 4: to help us get your answer on the show.
Speaker 1: On the show, make sure we clear, So.
Speaker 3: I would have to help you get them slowed down.
Speaker 3: Say it again, who would you like.
Speaker 4: To see on our show? You got to help, but
Speaker 4: we have to help us get your answer on the show.
Speaker 3: Man, I would say, but I would have to help you.
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, yes, yes, that's a key.
Speaker 3: Word I said, because between us there is no six degree.
Speaker 3: I think it's a one degree that separation because we
Speaker 3: know everybody. Are you familiar with a dude by the
Speaker 3: name of His real name is jose A Lonzo, but
Speaker 3: they called him the brown horny. Oh my god, dude,
Speaker 3: like this motherfucker is Yeah, that's him right there, that's Jose. Yeah.
Speaker 3: I can get I can get Jose and this seat.
Speaker 3: I can get him in this seat on thirty seconds. Jose,
Speaker 3: what you do all the smoke?
Speaker 2: Yeah, he said, think about it when you said it,
Speaker 2: when you said it, When he said Jose, I'm like, hold.
Speaker 3: Up the Jose's over there at that No, man, you
Speaker 3: know what has anybody said doctor dre Have you all
Speaker 3: had doctor dre on? Yeah? Man, yeah, hey man, it
Speaker 3: was thinking like I said, the brown hornet, it's not
Speaker 3: a green one black. Yeah, yeah, doctor Dre, Doctor Dray,
Speaker 3: doctor Dre. But you know what though, man, I think
Speaker 3: that Dre would trust being here because anybody that see,
Speaker 3: how y'all get.
Speaker 1: Down, man, Like we're giving flowers.
Speaker 3: Come on, man, like I could definitely see Dracy.
Speaker 1: We'll be honest, man. Yeah, yeah, it's in that text.
Speaker 3: Big Yeah, we're gonna be like, hold on because we
Speaker 3: got to get our Dre in first.
Speaker 2: But before we get out of here, man, we really
Speaker 2: just want to give your flowers. Man, what you mean
Speaker 2: to the radio space but also the West Coast and
Speaker 2: La alone. Man, you've been a trusted voice for a
Speaker 2: long time, man, and you know, a personal friend of
Speaker 2: mine and our kids grew up together.
Speaker 1: So I just want to say how much we love
Speaker 1: and appreciate you. Man. Keep fighting a good fight, bro,
Speaker 1: Appreciate you, no doubt.
Speaker 3: Hey man, real ship. I was expecting a gift. I
Speaker 3: was looking hey man, I was like, you need chaining day.
Speaker 3: I was like, man, I got some treat Yeah, give back,
Speaker 3: we got plenty of treat.
Speaker 1: Load them up on all this.
Speaker 3: We'll send it to my Gatesburg address. Yeah that's a wrap,
Speaker 3: big boy. I love y'all.
Speaker 1: We'll see y'all next week.
Speaker 3: Thank you for productions,