WEBVTT - Mick Shots: Copping An Attitude

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<v Speaker 1>The following. He's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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<v Speaker 1>and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This is Mick Shot

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<v Speaker 1>screening live on Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the official

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<v Speaker 1>Dallas Cowboys at now here are Bill Jones, Everson Wolves,

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<v Speaker 1>and Nicky Spagnola and things are about to get back

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<v Speaker 1>on track for your Dallas Cowboys because Mick Shots is

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<v Speaker 1>back on track on this Tuesday. As I see that

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<v Speaker 1>Mickey Spagnola Everson is back inside the SWBC Mortgage studios

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<v Speaker 1>at Ford Center at the Star in Frisco. He's been

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<v Speaker 1>out of there for a couple of weeks. And Everson,

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<v Speaker 1>what are the Cowboys done the last couple of weeks?

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<v Speaker 1>They have been blown out in everysingly that's tried. I

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<v Speaker 1>think we figured out what the problem is. So we

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<v Speaker 1>decided a denominator, right tried, Mickey, get out of your

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<v Speaker 1>home office. It's time to go back to work. And

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<v Speaker 1>Mickey is back to work, and aren't you Mickey, And

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<v Speaker 1>it's good to be here. By the way, it took

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<v Speaker 1>me a little while to kind of reorient myself. Like

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<v Speaker 1>when I walked into building, it was like, oh, I

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<v Speaker 1>need my badge. I haven't worn a badge for two weeks,

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<v Speaker 1>right and mask, and then I had to figure out

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<v Speaker 1>where it was. So but all's good and we're ready

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<v Speaker 1>to roll here in our SWBC Mortgage studio. I tried.

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<v Speaker 1>It's taken a while for the Cowboys to reorient themselves

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<v Speaker 1>as well here the last couple of weeks. But maybe

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<v Speaker 1>they can get it back on track against the first

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<v Speaker 1>place Philadelphia Eagles as first place is on the line

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<v Speaker 1>for the Cowboys by Sunday night, Mickey, that's where we

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<v Speaker 1>left yesterday after after forty five minutes of ranting and raving,

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<v Speaker 1>and with the way we ended the show on Monday was, Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>they're planning for first place, so here we are always

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<v Speaker 1>only a half game out. Hey, I like, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know if you guys realized, but Chris is armed to

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<v Speaker 1>the chief with his mask on. Are you afraid? Because

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<v Speaker 1>Spags is there? That's the only differences as a carrier

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<v Speaker 1>case he had to walk in here. You know, we

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<v Speaker 1>should let our viewers and listeners know who cannot see

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<v Speaker 1>Chris Beam that Everson has a close close circuit feed

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<v Speaker 1>video feed of the control room where he can see

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<v Speaker 1>our producer Chris Beam with a mask on, and I

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<v Speaker 1>suspect he's probably a good idea. Once Mickey got back

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<v Speaker 1>on the premises, Yeah, that's what it is. That's right,

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<v Speaker 1>laming on me, all right, Mickey, Yes, Mickey, Jerry's making

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<v Speaker 1>some noise this morning. There's some headlines from coast to coast.

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<v Speaker 1>Jerry was on you guys better and here to what

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<v Speaker 1>he said when I'm talking, because I don't want to

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<v Speaker 1>have to tell you to shut up and let me answer. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>somebody's fired up at over at the Star, somebody's fired up.

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<v Speaker 1>I fell off my chair listening to that this morning.

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<v Speaker 1>And then the way and then the way he finished it, Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>was absolutely hilarious because you know Jerry, it's like he goes,

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<v Speaker 1>he goes, if I was a little bit up rupt there,

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<v Speaker 1>meaning how he kind of when they kind of cut

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<v Speaker 1>him off, and he was like, no, I hadn't finished

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<v Speaker 1>answered my question, right, and uh he said that. At

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<v Speaker 1>the end, he goes, so I hate to start the

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<v Speaker 1>day like that. He goes, so we're gonna have We're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna have a good day. They'll be better days. And

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<v Speaker 1>at goes old adage, he goes, don't piss off an

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<v Speaker 1>old man with a little bit of money, best when

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<v Speaker 1>oh my god, Hey, I'm glad Jerry's fired up. I

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<v Speaker 1>really am. I mean, don't apologize. You know, sometimes we

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<v Speaker 1>can't all have this decorum in the midst of this

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<v Speaker 1>this you know, depression that we're under right now. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>sorry if he the man wants to go off and

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<v Speaker 1>somebody cuts him off, and you know this is this

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<v Speaker 1>is I'm Jerry Jones. Damn it. Don't just shut up

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<v Speaker 1>till I finish. I don't care if I feel a buster.

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<v Speaker 1>Shut the hell up till I'm finished. Sometimes you just

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<v Speaker 1>gotta feel like that man. Maybe, you know, change of

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<v Speaker 1>attitude around there at the start. You know, I think

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<v Speaker 1>Jerry's probably just heared Micky's reports on that radio station,

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<v Speaker 1>and he's heard Mickey say the same thing, don't piss

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<v Speaker 1>off an old man, but Mickey leaves out the money party,

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<v Speaker 1>don't piss off very little money. So other than that,

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<v Speaker 1>what you make of what Jerry had to say on

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<v Speaker 1>the radio this morning, Well, um, you know, he certainly

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<v Speaker 1>backed up Mike McCarthy let's go there first, um, and

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<v Speaker 1>then he he kind of went through different things. You

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<v Speaker 1>know that It's like people in our business, they have

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<v Speaker 1>this book of questions, and and one of the chapters

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<v Speaker 1>is excuses for losing, right, because it's never you're just

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<v Speaker 1>not good enough. It's either there's not enough effort, there's

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<v Speaker 1>no leadership. You know, those are those are the two

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<v Speaker 1>prime excuses for losing. Uh, it seems like and those

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<v Speaker 1>were the ones he had to kind of filter through.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh this morning, are you frustrated? Well, how yes, he's frustrated.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, there ain't nobody in this building here on

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<v Speaker 1>the other side that's not frustrated with a two and

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<v Speaker 1>five record. When you thought that, you know, after going

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<v Speaker 1>eight and eight, it's like, Okay, we're going to get

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<v Speaker 1>over the hump because we're bringing in a new staff. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>they forgot to tell him the new staff was coming

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<v Speaker 1>in with the new pandemic, right, and things that weren't

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<v Speaker 1>going to be normal this year, and so far for

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<v Speaker 1>the Cowboys, they haven't been normal. But I like the

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<v Speaker 1>fact that he pointed out number one. You know, when

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<v Speaker 1>they ask about the offense, he pointed out once again

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<v Speaker 1>that forty percent of their salary cap is on injured

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<v Speaker 1>reserve right now, and that includes almost the entire offensive

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<v Speaker 1>line save Connor Williams. So it's really hard when you

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<v Speaker 1>are sitting here and you were starting the backup to

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<v Speaker 1>the backup to the Pro Bowl offensive tackle and nothing

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<v Speaker 1>against Brandon Knight. I thought his effort has always been good,

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<v Speaker 1>but he wasn't in the mix to maybe even make

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<v Speaker 1>the team, let alone have to start as many games

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<v Speaker 1>as he did. So Jerry pointed that out, and then

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<v Speaker 1>he went to the route of the evil that we've

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<v Speaker 1>been talking about it and I've been harping on, but

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<v Speaker 1>the defense has to play better. The run defense has

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<v Speaker 1>to play better, you know you guys. I needed to

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<v Speaker 1>remind myself. I remember the three oh seven they gave up,

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<v Speaker 1>and then I went and looked and I wrote down

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<v Speaker 1>in from my memory two eighty one and then two

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<v Speaker 1>oh eight, and I go, is that right? Do I

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<v Speaker 1>need to double check that's how many rushing yards they've

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<v Speaker 1>given up in three of the last four games. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>it's absolutely right. And Jerry pointed out that they have

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<v Speaker 1>to fix the run defense, and I liked the way

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<v Speaker 1>he said it. He said, we got to correct this

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<v Speaker 1>and we'll change some personnel for sure, and that's one

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<v Speaker 1>of the things that has to have up front. We've

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<v Speaker 1>been harping on that no one will criticize don Terry Poe,

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<v Speaker 1>but that that can't continue. Three straight games and zeroed

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<v Speaker 1>out on the stat sheet just can't continue when you're

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<v Speaker 1>playing nearly half the snaps. So what do they do?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what they do there, but at least

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<v Speaker 1>we saw a little bit of a heartbeat from Everson

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<v Speaker 1>Griffin this last game. So maybe he's your right defensive end.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe you move Alden Smith into the three technique now

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<v Speaker 1>that you don't have Tristan Hill, and then you've got

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<v Speaker 1>Randy Gregory coming on to help out at the other

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<v Speaker 1>defense at the right defensive end spot. So maybe that's

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<v Speaker 1>a change they make. I don't know, but they can't

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<v Speaker 1>keep going the way they're going with that defensive tackle

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<v Speaker 1>position and think things are going to change. Yeah, the

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<v Speaker 1>problem there is, Mickey, as you know, is that they've

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<v Speaker 1>got to rotate guys in there. And they started off

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<v Speaker 1>this game with a rotation they had uh to start

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<v Speaker 1>off against Washington. They had done Terry Poe at the

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<v Speaker 1>one technique and Neville Gallimore at the three technique right,

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<v Speaker 1>and then they and the next rotation they would bring

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<v Speaker 1>in a combination of Justin Hamilton was coming in when

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<v Speaker 1>they went into that five man front and then they

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<v Speaker 1>had Antoine Woods. So I think who I have always

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<v Speaker 1>thought is active, and you know, you're you're never gonna

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<v Speaker 1>lose anything with Antoine Woods in there as far as

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<v Speaker 1>how hard he plays, and so I always like it

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<v Speaker 1>when I see Antoine Woods in there for that reason. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>But but one of the issues is I can see

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<v Speaker 1>it like Alden Smith moving inside when there when it's

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<v Speaker 1>a pass rush situation, that's great, you know, but Aldon

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<v Speaker 1>still reminds he still seems more like a three to

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<v Speaker 1>four outside linebacker than a four to three in and

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<v Speaker 1>that goes right to the fact that he like to

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<v Speaker 1>get down in a three point stance to begin with.

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<v Speaker 1>Playing defensive end, he's in a two point stance, while

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<v Speaker 1>Everson Griffin is more of a four three defensive end.

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<v Speaker 1>So I like where you're going there, maybe with Everson

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<v Speaker 1>Griffin and de Marcus Lawrence as your four three defensive ends,

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<v Speaker 1>with with Neville Gallimore and Antoine Woods inside, and then

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<v Speaker 1>you rotate from there, um, you know, and in passing

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<v Speaker 1>downs you move all in. Everson Griffin can rush from

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<v Speaker 1>inside too. I mean, there's combinations that they can come

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<v Speaker 1>up with, but there and I agree with you wholehearted

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<v Speaker 1>to lay on Poe. But there's also some issues that

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<v Speaker 1>they have at the defensive end position as far as

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<v Speaker 1>being able to end linebacker, as far as far as

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<v Speaker 1>stopping the right and safety. I mean, it's a team effort. No, No,

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<v Speaker 1>it has person But again, uh, we're seven games in.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to hear anymore about gap control. How

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<v Speaker 1>hard is that to sink in that's my gap? Ryan?

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<v Speaker 1>Now do you have the ability to gap control? You know?

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<v Speaker 1>That's the other thing. You know. Last year, the criticism

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<v Speaker 1>on this defense was they were so aggressive shooting up

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<v Speaker 1>the field. They were shooting up the field and the

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<v Speaker 1>running backs were going the other way right past them.

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<v Speaker 1>Well now they're not shooting up the field, and you

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<v Speaker 1>know what, the running backs are still going right past them.

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<v Speaker 1>I tell you what, I saw a good defense last night.

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<v Speaker 1>I saw two good defenses last night, and I kept

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<v Speaker 1>trying to compare the same plays going against the same

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<v Speaker 1>defense that we were running. You could see that the

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<v Speaker 1>Rams are trying to stretch the Bears defense as much

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<v Speaker 1>as they could. That basically, that's what the Rams due

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<v Speaker 1>to everyone. That's what they did to us. And yes

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<v Speaker 1>they did get They did chipping off the Bears a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit, little by little, and eventually the Bears got

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<v Speaker 1>frustrated and they couldn't stop anybody. Well, the problem that

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<v Speaker 1>you have with the Cowboys is you look at the Bears,

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<v Speaker 1>you look at the Cowboys. To me, the difference is

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<v Speaker 1>just attitude. They were optimistic about every player. When you

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<v Speaker 1>came up against the running back. If you're a linebacker,

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<v Speaker 1>you're a dB. Once you made contact. If you're a

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<v Speaker 1>Bears defended, once you made contact with that player, he

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't going another step further. They made some very good tackles.

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<v Speaker 1>They were all sure tacklers, and they didn't try to

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<v Speaker 1>do it by themselves. I'm pretty sure Mike Nolan's telling

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<v Speaker 1>them every day, guys, we all have to go to

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<v Speaker 1>the ball. We all have to go to the ball. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>everyone's not going to the ball as much as you

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<v Speaker 1>say it. Get off your freaking block, get to the ball.

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<v Speaker 1>That's your job as a defense has to have a

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<v Speaker 1>gang mentality. The difference to me looks like between what's

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<v Speaker 1>going on with this defense and what's going on with

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<v Speaker 1>the defense back in the day. Let's just say Jimmy

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<v Speaker 1>Johnson's nineteen nineties team. I know what's going way back before.

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<v Speaker 1>Attitude is still attitude, and that's what Jimmy brought to

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<v Speaker 1>this team. Do you recall the running back that Jimmy

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<v Speaker 1>Johnson cut right before Christmas? You remember that? Remember that

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<v Speaker 1>Urvin Richards years. I mean, I feel I felt sorry

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<v Speaker 1>for the kid at the time, but because he was

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<v Speaker 1>just really a pawn in Jimmy Johnson's game, and that

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<v Speaker 1>is to put fear and urgency into every player on

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<v Speaker 1>that team. I remember talking to Nate Newton I believe

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<v Speaker 1>it was Michael Levin as well at that time, and

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<v Speaker 1>all they could talk about they were They were kind

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<v Speaker 1>of giggling about it, but it was a testament to

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<v Speaker 1>you don't want to mess with Jimmy Johnson. Okay, you

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to be content. Right now, playoffs are coming

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<v Speaker 1>up the Cowboys. If I'm not mistaken, we're still in

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<v Speaker 1>first place in the division, and Jimmy still felt that

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<v Speaker 1>he had to make a statement. Now, I'm never much

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<v Speaker 1>for statements because I think players should be accountable without

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<v Speaker 1>being subjected to fear. But I have seen it work,

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<v Speaker 1>and if I'm not if I was with you, I

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<v Speaker 1>was there just a bit with Jim it wasn't there

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<v Speaker 1>long enough, but yeah, he got my butt on out

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<v Speaker 1>of them. McCarthy needs to have an attitude in that

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<v Speaker 1>manner because he's such a at least we see him outwardly,

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<v Speaker 1>seems like a meek even tend to even temperate person.

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<v Speaker 1>Someone on that team needs to be the hinchman. If

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<v Speaker 1>it's not going to be the head coach, you've got

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<v Speaker 1>to have a coach on that team that's willing to

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<v Speaker 1>put the hammer down embarrass some guys, and you've got

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<v Speaker 1>to be willing to embarrass the guys that made all

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<v Speaker 1>the money on the team. Do you want to who

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<v Speaker 1>do you want to cut? Who do you want to cut?

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<v Speaker 1>Knock cut, knock cut, not cut, but definitely put on

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<v Speaker 1>notice from of everyone so that we can all stop

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<v Speaker 1>walking around the locker room like, oh it ain't me,

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<v Speaker 1>must be him they say anything to me, Well, we're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna eliminate all that. I'm calling all of y'all out.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what the coaches need to do. Well, that's alike

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<v Speaker 1>the fact that Jerry said we'll have some personnel changes,

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<v Speaker 1>So let's see what kind of personnel changes could be

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<v Speaker 1>coming up. And I don't think he means rotating guys.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think he means bringing guys up off the

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<v Speaker 1>practice squad. I think he means that somebody's but it's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna sit. And if you noticed in this last game,

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't think Darryl Worley played a snap and I

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<v Speaker 1>finally went back and looked he played one defensive snap

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<v Speaker 1>water line. It was go line defenses, yes, which when

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<v Speaker 1>Washington was down on the goal line, he came in.

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<v Speaker 1>That was it. So I don't know if that was

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<v Speaker 1>a response to him blowing the coverage. Now I'm guessing

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<v Speaker 1>they're not going to do it to Treyvon Diggs, the rookie.

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<v Speaker 1>But again, if Chitubey Owoozier's ready to play, somebody in

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<v Speaker 1>that secondary's gonna sit because he needs to be on

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<v Speaker 1>the field. And the same thing happens when Sean Lee's

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<v Speaker 1>ready to go. You know, enough of these defensive ends

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<v Speaker 1>standing up as a strong side linebacker. Get Sean Lee

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<v Speaker 1>out there and get him to be vocal with this

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<v Speaker 1>team the way he's normally been and a leader on

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<v Speaker 1>that field. By the way, so when the Cowboys, Mickey

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<v Speaker 1>are in this five man front, that is their four

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<v Speaker 1>three with a defensive end playing the SAM linebacker Dorance

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<v Speaker 1>Armstrong or whoever standing up in that defense. That's what

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<v Speaker 1>they're running because it, I mean, it looks like it

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<v Speaker 1>might as well be a three to four in if

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<v Speaker 1>the if the opposite side defensive end just stands up

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<v Speaker 1>instead of gets down in a three point stance, it

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<v Speaker 1>looks like a three four just as easily as a

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<v Speaker 1>four to three because they're using a defensive end by

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<v Speaker 1>trade as their SAM linebacker in that defense and those

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<v Speaker 1>in a Dorance arms wrong, I'm sorry. And in fact,

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<v Speaker 1>on the okay, remember the third and long where Kyle

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<v Speaker 1>Allen got out ran for the first down. Yeah, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>we talked about it yesterday. DeMarcus Lawrence is retreating into

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<v Speaker 1>coverage on that play, Okay, So they don't contain that

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<v Speaker 1>one side because Lawrence his responsibility on that play was

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<v Speaker 1>it was like a zone blitz and he was retreating

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<v Speaker 1>back cover in the middle of the field and so

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<v Speaker 1>it was wide open for the quarterback to take off

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<v Speaker 1>and go thirteen yards for a first down on that point.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe that's why had it covered, right, so he had

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<v Speaker 1>no thirteen If it's third and thirteen, man, let's just

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<v Speaker 1>let d let's let d Long get a set. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>send him out. Let's just let him. When they came

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<v Speaker 1>in with this three four and they had DeMarcus Lawrence

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<v Speaker 1>dropping in the car, I mean DeMarcus Ware dropping into coverage.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like I don't want DeMarcus Ware back pedaling. I

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<v Speaker 1>want him going forward every play, same way with launch, Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>samea say, don't get fancy. Yeah. See we got this

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<v Speaker 1>continue here on Mick Shots, Hey, we could have a

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<v Speaker 1>world champion crowd in Arlington tonight. Micky. It's Game six

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<v Speaker 1>in the World Series. Absolutely, and Kirkshaw's going right. Kirshaw

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<v Speaker 1>went Saturday Sunday night. Oh that's right, he pitched the

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<v Speaker 1>last one tonight, So is it right? So the Dodgers

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<v Speaker 1>three two and uh there, Dodgers are up three two,

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<v Speaker 1>and if they win to night um or they went

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<v Speaker 1>if Tampa Bay wins, they play Game seven tomorrow and

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<v Speaker 1>I'll look for your pitching matchups. I should know that,

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<v Speaker 1>but you have caught me off guard, Mickey. I prepared

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<v Speaker 1>for football and not baseball, and I blame myself for

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<v Speaker 1>bringing up baseball to begin with. You know what that was?

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<v Speaker 1>That game was that Game three? That was a hell

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<v Speaker 1>of exciting. Oh on Saturday night, the game four on

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<v Speaker 1>Saturday at the play seen You will never ever see

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<v Speaker 1>a game in like that one did again, I mean

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<v Speaker 1>that was unbelievable. And in fact, the fact that the

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<v Speaker 1>guy that got the hit for Tampa Bay, Brett Phillips,

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<v Speaker 1>he seldom used. He's like a defensive replacement. He was

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<v Speaker 1>a day and he gets the hit and then thrown

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<v Speaker 1>the uh ball gets booted in center field and then

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<v Speaker 1>the throat of the plate and the hero of the

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<v Speaker 1>of the of the whole playoffs for Tampa Bay, Randy Rosarina,

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<v Speaker 1>who everything he touches goes right even when he falls down.

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<v Speaker 1>When did this guy come from another one? He came

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<v Speaker 1>out of nowhere. So yeah, Brett Phillips, who came out

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<v Speaker 1>of nowhere with the hit and a Rosarina. He comes

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<v Speaker 1>running around third base for home and he falls flat

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<v Speaker 1>on his face and the throne comes in. He's out

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<v Speaker 1>by he's out by twenty feet. And what was the

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<v Speaker 1>chechen doing? Man took his eye off the ball and

0:22:45.800 --> 0:22:48.199
<v Speaker 1>he thought he had to make off the sweeping tag

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<v Speaker 1>and he did, and he didn't exactly, he didn't know,

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<v Speaker 1>he didn't you know. Okay, what was the problem on

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<v Speaker 1>that play? We talk about? Okay, we can relate this

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<v Speaker 1>to foot ball and all right, a lot of the

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<v Speaker 1>problems that the Cowboys are having on defense stopping the run.

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<v Speaker 1>I think there's a lot of missed assignments in there. Okay,

0:23:09.320 --> 0:23:11.960
<v Speaker 1>reading and reacting, and there's some of that comes into

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<v Speaker 1>baseball too. What, Mickey, what needed to happen on that

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<v Speaker 1>play to keep that run from scoring. It has to

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<v Speaker 1>do with the picture. Oh, I was gonna say that

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<v Speaker 1>before you is not backing up. He was somewhere between

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<v Speaker 1>the pictures mount and the third base line. What was

0:23:29.119 --> 0:23:32.440
<v Speaker 1>he was? He was like between home plate and third base.

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<v Speaker 1>He wanted to get him closer. Look, look, it was exciting.

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<v Speaker 1>He's like, Wow, I gotta get closer and see what

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<v Speaker 1>was right. If he's backing up home play. They're still playing.

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<v Speaker 1>You still got a chance. That's a try, you know

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<v Speaker 1>what they do. But it once again, it just lets

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<v Speaker 1>you know, guys, and I grew up and Bill you

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<v Speaker 1>sundle of saying to me, I'm sis fags. You've seen

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<v Speaker 1>it all. We have seen some very unusual happens in

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<v Speaker 1>sports that had nothing to do with talent. Okay, nothing

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<v Speaker 1>at all to do with talent. It was all about

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<v Speaker 1>opportunity and being ready for that opportunity to come. We've

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<v Speaker 1>seen it so many times. You just talked about the

0:24:12.560 --> 0:24:15.359
<v Speaker 1>young man hadn't played in nine days, he comes up

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<v Speaker 1>and he gets the biggest end of his life, probably

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<v Speaker 1>the biggest hit, one of the biggest hits in World

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<v Speaker 1>Series history. Let's just be real about it. So don't

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<v Speaker 1>come to me talking about, well, we drafted this guy,

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<v Speaker 1>he's got all this talent, We got this guy. Man,

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<v Speaker 1>Just show me somebody's got some heart, show me somebody

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<v Speaker 1>with the attitude, somebody that believes. We talked about it

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<v Speaker 1>last year, we talked about the Cowboys, talies, talent, talent, talent,

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<v Speaker 1>and then Buffalo comes in here, Minnesota comes in here.

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<v Speaker 1>They both kick out butts and I said, you can

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<v Speaker 1>take a team of just average guys who know what

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<v Speaker 1>they're doing, who's on the same page, and you can

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<v Speaker 1>beat a bunch of superstars. We saw it all last

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<v Speaker 1>year and to our team, so to me, when we

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<v Speaker 1>started talking about all these these moves that we make

0:25:01.400 --> 0:25:04.200
<v Speaker 1>and what does he running the forty and how high

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<v Speaker 1>can he jump after he's handsome coffee, you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't care about any of that kind of stuff. Show

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<v Speaker 1>me a guy that believes he can make the play.

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<v Speaker 1>We can work with all the other stuff. We get

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<v Speaker 1>so caught up in all the stats and all of that.

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<v Speaker 1>Show me a guy that wants to play. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>along those lines, you mentioned the Rams Bears game last night,

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<v Speaker 1>and and I thought you were going to go to

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<v Speaker 1>the secondaries for both teams because they got some guys

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<v Speaker 1>like Everson Walls, who I was thinking his last night.

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<v Speaker 1>I just didn't bring him now in both those secondaries.

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<v Speaker 1>And of course, Jalen Ramsey had an interception at the

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<v Speaker 1>end that was yeah, yeah, yeah, but yeah, but yeah exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>But there's one guy in that Bears secondary, Eddie Jackson

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<v Speaker 1>out of Alabama, who I think he was like a

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<v Speaker 1>third round pick whatever, and he has had more returns

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<v Speaker 1>for touchdowns, and not only in his NFL career, but

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<v Speaker 1>going back to his college career, and he probably ran

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<v Speaker 1>a four or five five or something like that. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know what he ran. But he is just a

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<v Speaker 1>playmaker in that secondary for the Bears. And so in

0:26:16.560 --> 0:26:18.720
<v Speaker 1>last night's game, he's right place, right time. There was

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<v Speaker 1>a sack, he picks up fumbled scoops and scores another

0:26:21.760 --> 0:26:24.280
<v Speaker 1>touchdown I think he had And they said they had

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<v Speaker 1>two others that were called back this season. I mean

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<v Speaker 1>every year he's got returns for touchdowns and he did

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<v Speaker 1>it time and again. I think he did it twice

0:26:31.960 --> 0:26:37.159
<v Speaker 1>against That's not by happenstanding, that's exactly. That's not exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>This guy has the ability to make that play because

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<v Speaker 1>he has it up here. So I don't like you

0:26:42.440 --> 0:26:45.479
<v Speaker 1>said four or five. Maybe I don't care what he runs.

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<v Speaker 1>Just show me some playmakers. And the attitude in both

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<v Speaker 1>secondaries was one of hounddogs. I mean, they will hunt

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<v Speaker 1>exactly these guys are. They can't wait to get off

0:26:58.600 --> 0:27:01.439
<v Speaker 1>in that wide receiver's face, get off in his grill.

0:27:02.200 --> 0:27:05.720
<v Speaker 1>That's to me, that's the attitude I'm talking about. What

0:27:05.920 --> 0:27:08.080
<v Speaker 1>does that come from Does it come from one player?

0:27:08.400 --> 0:27:10.239
<v Speaker 1>Does it come from who you drafted? Does it come

0:27:10.280 --> 0:27:14.440
<v Speaker 1>from your your your your dB coach? Who does where

0:27:14.440 --> 0:27:16.640
<v Speaker 1>does that come from? I don't see what's the head

0:27:16.640 --> 0:27:19.560
<v Speaker 1>coach name, Bill Nagie. Is that his name for the Bears,

0:27:19.560 --> 0:27:22.240
<v Speaker 1>Bill Naggie, I think it is. I don't. I don't

0:27:22.240 --> 0:27:24.800
<v Speaker 1>see him being Matt Nagi. Yeah, I don't see him,

0:27:25.400 --> 0:27:28.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah Naggie, I don't. I didn't see no great attitude

0:27:28.040 --> 0:27:31.960
<v Speaker 1>of him, you know, talking trash or being very extroverted.

0:27:32.840 --> 0:27:37.720
<v Speaker 1>So that attitude comes from somewhere within that organization. On

0:27:37.880 --> 0:27:42.160
<v Speaker 1>both sides of the ball. Those dbs in the entire secondary,

0:27:42.200 --> 0:27:44.920
<v Speaker 1>including the linebackers, couldn't wait to make a play they

0:27:44.920 --> 0:27:49.320
<v Speaker 1>want afraid. They couldn't wait to make a play last

0:27:49.640 --> 0:27:52.919
<v Speaker 1>last Monday night and then on Sunday night. The Arizona secondary.

0:27:53.080 --> 0:27:56.360
<v Speaker 1>What what does Arizona have in their second under estimated

0:27:56.359 --> 0:28:00.879
<v Speaker 1>that Buddha Baker and this Byron Murphy, whether it's in

0:28:01.000 --> 0:28:04.680
<v Speaker 1>past defense or run defense, he's an instinctive player. Those

0:28:04.720 --> 0:28:07.239
<v Speaker 1>are the type guys that you have to have on

0:28:07.280 --> 0:28:10.119
<v Speaker 1>your defense to make plays. I think McCarthy said it.

0:28:11.080 --> 0:28:13.200
<v Speaker 1>I believe it was him. I don't think it was.

0:28:13.040 --> 0:28:16.320
<v Speaker 1>It was Mike Nolan. He said, we got guys on

0:28:16.480 --> 0:28:20.000
<v Speaker 1>defense that are playing not to make mistakes instead of

0:28:20.000 --> 0:28:23.760
<v Speaker 1>cutting it loose and just go play. And I think

0:28:23.800 --> 0:28:26.720
<v Speaker 1>that there may be too much thinking going on back

0:28:26.760 --> 0:28:29.719
<v Speaker 1>there and just go out there and play football. You know.

0:28:30.280 --> 0:28:32.840
<v Speaker 1>You know, there's there's a guy running at me. Okay,

0:28:32.920 --> 0:28:35.159
<v Speaker 1>I better cover him. I don't need to be looking

0:28:35.240 --> 0:28:37.480
<v Speaker 1>underneath there to say, oh, they might throw it to

0:28:37.560 --> 0:28:39.800
<v Speaker 1>that guy. I'm gonna go cheat and try to cover

0:28:39.920 --> 0:28:42.720
<v Speaker 1>that as this guy goes fifty two yards by me.

0:28:43.120 --> 0:28:48.120
<v Speaker 1>They just got to loosen up and play play football. Uh,

0:28:48.680 --> 0:28:51.800
<v Speaker 1>you know, it was funny one shining moment, right, you

0:28:51.840 --> 0:28:55.280
<v Speaker 1>know it was funny moment against the Giants, right yea.

0:28:56.120 --> 0:29:00.280
<v Speaker 1>Dalan Smith personified it against the Giants. But but you

0:29:00.360 --> 0:29:03.000
<v Speaker 1>gotta know, you gotta anticipate, and he went back to

0:29:03.120 --> 0:29:06.400
<v Speaker 1>not anticipating in this game. You know, the funny play

0:29:06.440 --> 0:29:08.320
<v Speaker 1>in that game was the one on the goal line

0:29:08.360 --> 0:29:10.680
<v Speaker 1>when the Rams were trying to run the ball in

0:29:11.240 --> 0:29:15.280
<v Speaker 1>and that it was a rugby scrum like they were pushing.

0:29:15.320 --> 0:29:18.360
<v Speaker 1>Everybody was pushing the running back and the Bears were

0:29:18.400 --> 0:29:20.960
<v Speaker 1>trying to hold on and they kept pushing and pushing,

0:29:21.320 --> 0:29:24.320
<v Speaker 1>and then a Keem Hicks jumps on the pile at

0:29:24.320 --> 0:29:26.520
<v Speaker 1>the end and they called a penalty on him for

0:29:26.640 --> 0:29:29.880
<v Speaker 1>jumping on the pile. I'm going every offensive lineman jumped

0:29:29.880 --> 0:29:32.719
<v Speaker 1>on the pile and you that was okay, It's like,

0:29:33.160 --> 0:29:37.920
<v Speaker 1>what are you calling? What are you doing? Just amazing you.

0:29:38.080 --> 0:29:41.360
<v Speaker 1>But but you you just loved that defensive attitude. If

0:29:41.360 --> 0:29:44.640
<v Speaker 1>there's a turnover, and you know, I've been a part

0:29:44.640 --> 0:29:47.520
<v Speaker 1>of teams like that, if there's a turnover, you've always

0:29:47.520 --> 0:29:49.920
<v Speaker 1>got that. If you've if you're lucky you're on that defense,

0:29:50.480 --> 0:29:53.520
<v Speaker 1>they can't wait to put their helmets back on to

0:29:53.640 --> 0:30:02.200
<v Speaker 1>get back out on the field. Yeah uh, you know.

0:30:02.240 --> 0:30:04.000
<v Speaker 1>And that's and that's the thing when you when you

0:30:04.320 --> 0:30:07.520
<v Speaker 1>look at the Cowboys defense, is Mickey you're talking about?

0:30:08.080 --> 0:30:10.880
<v Speaker 1>I think a lot. So I think the question may

0:30:10.920 --> 0:30:13.840
<v Speaker 1>have been asked to McCarthy about confidence and sort of

0:30:13.840 --> 0:30:16.800
<v Speaker 1>which comes first. I don't know this way it was

0:30:18.040 --> 0:30:23.560
<v Speaker 1>confidence or performance yeah yeah, yeah, or yeah uh. And

0:30:23.560 --> 0:30:27.920
<v Speaker 1>And I think I think what builds confidence as much

0:30:28.000 --> 0:30:32.520
<v Speaker 1>as anything is preparation. And when you know what that

0:30:32.640 --> 0:30:38.040
<v Speaker 1>if you've studied that opponent and you know all their tendencies. Okay,

0:30:38.440 --> 0:30:40.560
<v Speaker 1>you can play. You can cut it loose and you

0:30:40.560 --> 0:30:43.480
<v Speaker 1>can play. And I think that's what maybe missing some

0:30:43.640 --> 0:30:47.880
<v Speaker 1>in this defense, whether it's simplifying their own scheme or

0:30:48.000 --> 0:30:51.400
<v Speaker 1>just understanding what the offense is trying to do. I mean,

0:30:51.440 --> 0:30:54.520
<v Speaker 1>that is what has made Sean Lee so great in

0:30:54.600 --> 0:30:58.480
<v Speaker 1>his career is his the way he studies the opponent,

0:30:58.960 --> 0:31:01.960
<v Speaker 1>understands their tend and sees and that's why he can

0:31:02.000 --> 0:31:05.000
<v Speaker 1>so quickly read and react. And it's a lot easier

0:31:05.040 --> 0:31:07.400
<v Speaker 1>to get off a block when you know where that

0:31:07.440 --> 0:31:10.320
<v Speaker 1>ball is going in the backfield and you and you

0:31:10.360 --> 0:31:12.040
<v Speaker 1>know which way to go to get up to get

0:31:12.080 --> 0:31:14.920
<v Speaker 1>off that block. For buy that big offensive lineman, and

0:31:14.960 --> 0:31:17.800
<v Speaker 1>that's why he's able to to do what he does. See.

0:31:17.840 --> 0:31:20.520
<v Speaker 1>I wonder and Bill, you know this occurred to me.

0:31:20.840 --> 0:31:25.480
<v Speaker 1>This occurred to me when about the preparation part. You

0:31:25.560 --> 0:31:31.280
<v Speaker 1>know how, I don't know. In a normal year, when

0:31:31.280 --> 0:31:35.240
<v Speaker 1>everybody's in the meetings together, you know, maybe you stay

0:31:35.520 --> 0:31:37.920
<v Speaker 1>in and you I don't know if you're allowed to

0:31:37.960 --> 0:31:40.880
<v Speaker 1>go in the room and watch tape in a group

0:31:41.040 --> 0:31:43.360
<v Speaker 1>on your home you are, well, I don't know, but

0:31:43.480 --> 0:31:46.080
<v Speaker 1>I don't know what the rules are now with the

0:31:46.160 --> 0:31:48.280
<v Speaker 1>COVID thing and see, and I don't know if that's

0:31:48.400 --> 0:31:51.760
<v Speaker 1>changed things like guys stay late and watch tape or

0:31:51.800 --> 0:31:54.320
<v Speaker 1>you go home and you and you and you watch

0:31:54.360 --> 0:31:57.240
<v Speaker 1>tape on your own, or is everybody going home? I'm

0:31:57.240 --> 0:32:00.200
<v Speaker 1>talking to you. I'm I want to know if that's

0:32:00.240 --> 0:32:03.400
<v Speaker 1>going on, because I think there's some there there. There

0:32:03.440 --> 0:32:08.000
<v Speaker 1>may be some sort of distraction here about uh staying safe,

0:32:08.440 --> 0:32:12.360
<v Speaker 1>uh going home, make sure everybody safe, instead of doing

0:32:12.400 --> 0:32:20.000
<v Speaker 1>your job and being prepared as you a good dude.

0:32:20.640 --> 0:32:24.080
<v Speaker 1>You're a good Dude's fags. I love that. Hey, hey,

0:32:24.440 --> 0:32:28.440
<v Speaker 1>you remember you remember that was it who was it

0:32:28.560 --> 0:32:31.160
<v Speaker 1>that that did that documentary on the Cowboys a couple

0:32:31.160 --> 0:32:34.120
<v Speaker 1>of years ago whatever? And remember that the closing shot

0:32:34.200 --> 0:32:35.840
<v Speaker 1>that they had at the end of the season on

0:32:35.840 --> 0:32:42.080
<v Speaker 1>that documentary and Sean Lee it was after their last

0:32:42.120 --> 0:32:45.400
<v Speaker 1>team meeting. And where does Sean Lee go. He doesn't

0:32:45.480 --> 0:32:48.840
<v Speaker 1>leave the building for the offseason. He goes into the

0:32:48.880 --> 0:32:52.200
<v Speaker 1>film room basically, and he is studying what happened in

0:32:52.240 --> 0:32:55.160
<v Speaker 1>that last game whatever. I mean, it's something that you

0:32:55.400 --> 0:33:01.120
<v Speaker 1>do continuously, okay, I mean, you basically have to devote

0:33:01.120 --> 0:33:06.160
<v Speaker 1>yourself during this season to eliminating all the other distractions.

0:33:06.240 --> 0:33:08.600
<v Speaker 1>And if you want to be great, you have to

0:33:08.600 --> 0:33:12.960
<v Speaker 1>devote yourself to doing all you can to study your opponent.

0:33:15.520 --> 0:33:19.640
<v Speaker 1>Is what all players that are any good always do.

0:33:20.440 --> 0:33:22.640
<v Speaker 1>And if you want to be good, and you see

0:33:22.680 --> 0:33:27.040
<v Speaker 1>Sean Lee going into that that video room, come on, man,

0:33:27.080 --> 0:33:30.040
<v Speaker 1>as a linebacker, you've got to feel some kind of

0:33:30.080 --> 0:33:33.520
<v Speaker 1>way about that. You keep on going home and this

0:33:33.560 --> 0:33:36.040
<v Speaker 1>guy's sitting here in the film room. Now, you don't

0:33:36.040 --> 0:33:38.920
<v Speaker 1>have to follow him everywhere it goes. But when you're

0:33:38.920 --> 0:33:43.440
<v Speaker 1>talking about this season right now, Spags, you are not

0:33:43.560 --> 0:33:46.120
<v Speaker 1>sitting next to me right now. But you and I,

0:33:46.120 --> 0:33:48.320
<v Speaker 1>if we figure it out, we can figure out how

0:33:48.320 --> 0:33:50.960
<v Speaker 1>to watch videos and talk to each other while you're

0:33:50.960 --> 0:33:54.440
<v Speaker 1>at home and I'm at home. Everybody else in the

0:33:54.480 --> 0:33:57.600
<v Speaker 1>world is doing it, so there is no excuse for

0:33:57.680 --> 0:34:01.040
<v Speaker 1>them not to be on the same page. Every linebacker

0:34:01.080 --> 0:34:02.920
<v Speaker 1>should be in that room with Sean Lee. And if

0:34:02.960 --> 0:34:07.280
<v Speaker 1>I'm Sean Lee, I'm gonna get tired of people saying, man,

0:34:07.360 --> 0:34:09.960
<v Speaker 1>you really identicate you going there by yourself? And I

0:34:09.960 --> 0:34:12.480
<v Speaker 1>would say, if I'm Sean Lee, why in the hell

0:34:12.520 --> 0:34:15.560
<v Speaker 1>am I in there by myself? See, we got to

0:34:17.080 --> 0:34:20.279
<v Speaker 1>this point and let me make this quick point. We

0:34:20.400 --> 0:34:23.279
<v Speaker 1>didn't see this in training camp when they were in

0:34:23.320 --> 0:34:27.480
<v Speaker 1>a bubble, right, and they started the season off pretty well,

0:34:27.880 --> 0:34:30.439
<v Speaker 1>and now all of a sudden things fell apart. When

0:34:30.440 --> 0:34:32.800
<v Speaker 1>you're in the bubble, what else did you have to do?

0:34:33.000 --> 0:34:37.480
<v Speaker 1>Nothing but football? Right? And everybody's together, and now after

0:34:37.520 --> 0:34:40.879
<v Speaker 1>the second week of the season, it's almost like, where

0:34:40.960 --> 0:34:43.760
<v Speaker 1>did that team go? We didn't see that in training

0:34:43.800 --> 0:34:49.560
<v Speaker 1>camp practices. That defense was was rabid in training camp practices.

0:34:50.040 --> 0:34:52.120
<v Speaker 1>Now all of a sudden, it's like they don't know

0:34:52.160 --> 0:34:58.279
<v Speaker 1>what's going on, so something I put them back in

0:34:58.360 --> 0:35:04.040
<v Speaker 1>the hotel. That's right. In my last point on that,

0:35:04.120 --> 0:35:07.399
<v Speaker 1>am I gonna call out this. I'm not gonna call

0:35:07.440 --> 0:35:10.839
<v Speaker 1>out this former cowboy by name, but I will go

0:35:10.920 --> 0:35:13.880
<v Speaker 1>back to when Sean Lee first came into the league

0:35:14.120 --> 0:35:16.840
<v Speaker 1>and he had a teammate as well that played the

0:35:16.840 --> 0:35:20.600
<v Speaker 1>same position. And I know that Lee, we all know

0:35:20.640 --> 0:35:22.719
<v Speaker 1>what can kind of work at the he's got and

0:35:22.800 --> 0:35:26.600
<v Speaker 1>his teammate also a linebacker. And this was right after

0:35:26.640 --> 0:35:29.280
<v Speaker 1>Twitter had started up on Twitter came around in twenty

0:35:29.320 --> 0:35:32.359
<v Speaker 1>ten or whatever, and so it was probably seven eight

0:35:32.440 --> 0:35:35.640
<v Speaker 1>years ago, and he would tweet about the video games

0:35:35.680 --> 0:35:39.279
<v Speaker 1>that he's playing and this is during the season, and

0:35:39.400 --> 0:35:42.040
<v Speaker 1>this player would be tweeting about, oh I didn't do

0:35:42.200 --> 0:35:45.799
<v Speaker 1>this whatever video game, and I'm saying, put up your

0:35:45.880 --> 0:35:50.799
<v Speaker 1>video game, go study the Philadelphia Eagles. Anyway, all right,

0:35:51.000 --> 0:35:54.040
<v Speaker 1>I've had that. I'm off my soapbox on that. All right,

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<v Speaker 1>a trivia question for you. Uh, when was the last

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<v Speaker 1>time the Cowboys had an interception? Jeffy? That would have

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<v Speaker 1>been my guest. Now, didn't they get one? Didn't they

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<v Speaker 1>get one early in the season? One this year? Yeah?

0:38:35.120 --> 0:38:38.840
<v Speaker 1>One this year? They did get one early in the season. Um,

0:38:38.960 --> 0:38:41.000
<v Speaker 1>it was in the Rams game. It was Cheeto in

0:38:41.040 --> 0:38:44.239
<v Speaker 1>the Rams game. That's kept thinking that was That's right.

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<v Speaker 1>They didn't have a preseason. I'm sorry, it wasn't preseason.

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<v Speaker 1>I kept thinking this preseason. So they've gotten six games

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<v Speaker 1>now without an interception? How many games? I mean, just

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<v Speaker 1>to even say they've gone that's to say they've got

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<v Speaker 1>one interception in six games, period, is pretty bad. Has

0:39:02.400 --> 0:39:07.040
<v Speaker 1>he missed five Yeah, he's missed five. What's that cheetos?

0:39:07.080 --> 0:39:10.320
<v Speaker 1>He missed five games? Four games. I'm trying to remember,

0:39:10.400 --> 0:39:12.959
<v Speaker 1>I don't have I don't have my list here, We've

0:39:12.960 --> 0:39:18.919
<v Speaker 1>got it here. Yes, he's missed five, and it's he's

0:39:19.000 --> 0:39:22.319
<v Speaker 1>getting close. Is there a chance this week Mickey? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>he's supposed to uh move into more practice week and

0:39:26.280 --> 0:39:29.680
<v Speaker 1>the practice this week, and they're gonna see how he

0:39:29.840 --> 0:39:34.720
<v Speaker 1>reacts to it. But I think they're somewhat optimistic. Sean

0:39:34.880 --> 0:39:37.279
<v Speaker 1>Lee's supposed to move into practice, and we'll see what

0:39:37.320 --> 0:39:44.440
<v Speaker 1>happens with Joe Looney. Uh, and uh, you know, Andy

0:39:44.520 --> 0:39:47.919
<v Speaker 1>Dalton's will be in the concussion protocol. I think Jerry

0:39:47.960 --> 0:39:50.200
<v Speaker 1>I can't remember if Jerry or Steven pointed it out

0:39:50.239 --> 0:39:53.160
<v Speaker 1>that this was the first concussion he's ever had. Uh,

0:39:53.320 --> 0:39:56.720
<v Speaker 1>So you know, I'm sure he's not sure of how

0:39:56.760 --> 0:40:00.880
<v Speaker 1>this whole thing is gonna pan out. In the meantime,

0:40:01.239 --> 0:40:03.920
<v Speaker 1>you got to get Dnucci ready to start and Garrett

0:40:03.920 --> 0:40:07.640
<v Speaker 1>Gilbert ready to be the backup U and you know

0:40:07.840 --> 0:40:10.280
<v Speaker 1>you don't and neither one of these guys is really,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, had had that much experience in practice, let

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<v Speaker 1>alone in games for the Cowboys. So yeah, it's not

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<v Speaker 1>a it's but again it's what I said previously. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>I understand the problems on offense, but this is when

0:40:25.680 --> 0:40:28.520
<v Speaker 1>you need your defense to step up and help out,

0:40:28.920 --> 0:40:34.280
<v Speaker 1>not create more problems. We talked about the Pittsburgh Steelers,

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<v Speaker 1>or at least I did yesterday, and to me, it's

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<v Speaker 1>just a perfect example. Boy, they struggled all year, but

0:40:41.760 --> 0:40:46.360
<v Speaker 1>to watch their defense do their best to keep Pittsburgh

0:40:46.480 --> 0:40:49.320
<v Speaker 1>in every game even though they were down to the

0:40:49.520 --> 0:40:53.359
<v Speaker 1>third string quarterback as well, it was really something to see.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course, they didn't make it, but the effort they

0:40:56.560 --> 0:41:02.319
<v Speaker 1>were exhausted after every game trying to salvage a win

0:41:02.560 --> 0:41:06.399
<v Speaker 1>with a third string quarterback. And they wound up eight

0:41:06.520 --> 0:41:09.799
<v Speaker 1>Nate last year, and so and eight Nate would would

0:41:09.840 --> 0:41:14.120
<v Speaker 1>win this division going away this year. Mike Thomas, I'm

0:41:14.160 --> 0:41:16.200
<v Speaker 1>telling me he could have been close to a Coach

0:41:16.200 --> 0:41:19.120
<v Speaker 1>of the Year last year without making the playoffs. Just

0:41:19.160 --> 0:41:21.759
<v Speaker 1>the fact that they went eight Nate and they were

0:41:21.800 --> 0:41:25.880
<v Speaker 1>just without the starting quarterback. And so that's the kind

0:41:25.920 --> 0:41:27.799
<v Speaker 1>of effort that you want to look for you, that's

0:41:27.840 --> 0:41:31.319
<v Speaker 1>the effort that you want to have defensively, say, you

0:41:31.360 --> 0:41:33.919
<v Speaker 1>know what offense, we got you don't worry about it.

0:41:33.960 --> 0:41:38.120
<v Speaker 1>And also facts I wanted to talk. Everyone's still very

0:41:38.239 --> 0:41:43.399
<v Speaker 1>upset about Bostic and the fact that he did not

0:41:43.920 --> 0:41:47.799
<v Speaker 1>get suspended. Is there anything that can be done in

0:41:47.840 --> 0:41:51.120
<v Speaker 1>regards to a different decision or coming to another decision

0:41:51.120 --> 0:41:53.879
<v Speaker 1>on that, because they said as it was, It's been said,

0:41:54.400 --> 0:41:59.279
<v Speaker 1>they said if this was Brady or some superstar quarterback,

0:41:59.440 --> 0:42:02.319
<v Speaker 1>we'd be entirely different attitude. So what do you think

0:42:02.320 --> 0:42:05.239
<v Speaker 1>about it? Yeah, that he should be suspended. I still

0:42:05.280 --> 0:42:09.480
<v Speaker 1>think he should be suspended. Uh do you think if

0:42:09.480 --> 0:42:11.480
<v Speaker 1>he was, if he had more status, do you think

0:42:12.040 --> 0:42:15.120
<v Speaker 1>I think so? Yeah, I think so. And and the

0:42:15.160 --> 0:42:17.360
<v Speaker 1>fact that and I can't remember if I said it here,

0:42:17.520 --> 0:42:20.440
<v Speaker 1>I said it on my fan segment. You know, in hockey,

0:42:20.640 --> 0:42:22.520
<v Speaker 1>when when you do that to a player and the

0:42:22.560 --> 0:42:25.120
<v Speaker 1>player is gonna miss time or miss the game, they

0:42:25.160 --> 0:42:27.880
<v Speaker 1>suspend you for about the same amount of time too,

0:42:28.239 --> 0:42:35.000
<v Speaker 1>So uh, you know hockey justice right, So again, Uh, yeah,

0:42:35.120 --> 0:42:38.839
<v Speaker 1>I don't see why you know he shouldn't be suspended.

0:42:39.080 --> 0:42:41.360
<v Speaker 1>You know, I heard I heard Troy Aikman talking about

0:42:41.400 --> 0:42:43.439
<v Speaker 1>it today. And you know, one of the good things

0:42:43.480 --> 0:42:46.440
<v Speaker 1>about Troy is he'll say what he believes. He doesn't

0:42:46.480 --> 0:42:50.000
<v Speaker 1>just pile on with the group. Uh. And he made

0:42:50.040 --> 0:42:52.440
<v Speaker 1>a really good point, and I had said this previously,

0:42:52.480 --> 0:42:54.360
<v Speaker 1>so that's why I think it was a good point.

0:42:54.760 --> 0:42:59.440
<v Speaker 1>He said, look at the experience, and Jerry said it today.

0:42:59.480 --> 0:43:03.360
<v Speaker 1>Look at the experience on the offensive line. Those guys

0:43:04.280 --> 0:43:07.719
<v Speaker 1>number one, they probably didn't see the hit. At number two.

0:43:07.800 --> 0:43:10.879
<v Speaker 1>When you see your quarterback just kind of laying there motionless,

0:43:10.920 --> 0:43:13.799
<v Speaker 1>you go over there to check on him first, right,

0:43:14.040 --> 0:43:16.680
<v Speaker 1>you're not ready to fight, you're not ready to go,

0:43:16.719 --> 0:43:19.720
<v Speaker 1>and you know, get in fifts the cuffs with somebody.

0:43:21.080 --> 0:43:24.000
<v Speaker 1>But think about the offensive line. The guys that were playing,

0:43:24.520 --> 0:43:27.120
<v Speaker 1>those guys highly ever played any football in the National

0:43:27.160 --> 0:43:32.160
<v Speaker 1>Football League, So again you have to take that into account.

0:43:32.840 --> 0:43:35.359
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if Zeke was on the field at

0:43:35.360 --> 0:43:39.480
<v Speaker 1>that point, but no, I just I don't. I don't

0:43:39.520 --> 0:43:41.319
<v Speaker 1>see it. I bet those guys have never been in

0:43:41.360 --> 0:43:44.799
<v Speaker 1>that situation before. It's not like Tyran Smith was out

0:43:44.840 --> 0:43:49.120
<v Speaker 1>there or Lale Collins or Zach Martin. And you've got

0:43:49.160 --> 0:43:52.960
<v Speaker 1>you've got sweat equity with that guy laying on the ground, right, Well,

0:43:53.080 --> 0:43:55.200
<v Speaker 1>this guy just got here. None of those guys had

0:43:55.239 --> 0:43:59.760
<v Speaker 1>played with them, and they probably didn't see what happened. Now,

0:44:00.120 --> 0:44:01.920
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if you look at the replay and

0:44:01.960 --> 0:44:03.880
<v Speaker 1>see what happened, then you go running over to the

0:44:03.920 --> 0:44:06.359
<v Speaker 1>bench and go, Okay, where's that guy. I'm gonna beat

0:44:06.440 --> 0:44:11.759
<v Speaker 1>him up. So this whole thing, everything gets magnified nationally

0:44:11.920 --> 0:44:14.399
<v Speaker 1>when one person says something. Now, I don't know if

0:44:14.440 --> 0:44:17.280
<v Speaker 1>Mike McCarthy probably wishes he hadn't said what he said,

0:44:17.560 --> 0:44:20.839
<v Speaker 1>because then everybody piled on that. This team doesn't care,

0:44:20.960 --> 0:44:23.960
<v Speaker 1>it doesn't have any heart. Those young guys out there

0:44:23.960 --> 0:44:26.320
<v Speaker 1>are just trying to make a way in this profession.

0:44:26.800 --> 0:44:30.399
<v Speaker 1>There's probably so worried about themselves they didn't even think

0:44:30.400 --> 0:44:33.359
<v Speaker 1>about that. Plus, they would have lost their home games,

0:44:33.680 --> 0:44:38.080
<v Speaker 1>they would have lost their whole game. Check would I

0:44:38.120 --> 0:44:43.879
<v Speaker 1>would give you a bit, just a bit of an

0:44:43.920 --> 0:44:47.759
<v Speaker 1>excuse on that with SPACs. But but but no, these guys,

0:44:47.840 --> 0:44:50.200
<v Speaker 1>whether you play in the pros, whether you play in college,

0:44:50.239 --> 0:44:52.600
<v Speaker 1>or whether you play in high school, it's just an

0:44:52.600 --> 0:44:55.520
<v Speaker 1>attitude that offensive lineman have, and I get it the

0:44:55.760 --> 0:45:01.200
<v Speaker 1>young it's an attitude that all offensive line on every

0:45:01.320 --> 0:45:05.799
<v Speaker 1>level has, and that is to protect your quarterback. They

0:45:05.800 --> 0:45:07.759
<v Speaker 1>didn't have to go over to the bench to find him.

0:45:07.920 --> 0:45:10.840
<v Speaker 1>He was still on the field. Everyone saw the replay.

0:45:11.400 --> 0:45:15.120
<v Speaker 1>Somebody on that field offensively saw what happened. Everyone on

0:45:15.160 --> 0:45:18.400
<v Speaker 1>the Cowboys team didn't miss it. Okay on the field,

0:45:18.680 --> 0:45:21.120
<v Speaker 1>So yes, you're right, they can be a little bit

0:45:21.160 --> 0:45:25.320
<v Speaker 1>cautious about it. But every offensive linement, on every level,

0:45:25.400 --> 0:45:27.480
<v Speaker 1>I've seen them come to the defense. I don't care

0:45:27.520 --> 0:45:30.360
<v Speaker 1>what Mike McCarthy said. It didn't matter to me. That's

0:45:30.360 --> 0:45:32.440
<v Speaker 1>what I saw, and I believe that the moment that

0:45:32.480 --> 0:45:34.239
<v Speaker 1>I saw it. And yes, you can give him a

0:45:34.280 --> 0:45:39.160
<v Speaker 1>pass in a way, but I'm not good. Right, we

0:45:39.200 --> 0:45:47.680
<v Speaker 1>don't have at least partying Mick shot, Mick, Yeah, at

0:45:47.719 --> 0:45:53.920
<v Speaker 1>least you metally finished my answer. Right, I didn't have

0:45:53.960 --> 0:45:56.840
<v Speaker 1>to tell you to shut party. Mick shot a party,

0:45:57.160 --> 0:46:05.400
<v Speaker 1>Mick shot. Don't ever shut up? Shut up. That's a

0:46:05.440 --> 0:46:08.240
<v Speaker 1>good way to finish it. Give us Cherry's line again,

0:46:08.960 --> 0:46:11.439
<v Speaker 1>as if you're saying it, Mickey, shut up and let

0:46:11.480 --> 0:46:17.400
<v Speaker 1>me answer. And the answer is no. What was the

0:46:17.440 --> 0:46:20.200
<v Speaker 1>line about money though? The money? Are you like that one?

0:46:20.600 --> 0:46:24.160
<v Speaker 1>Don't piss off an old man a little money it'll

0:46:24.239 --> 0:46:27.000
<v Speaker 1>get you. Wait wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, let us

0:46:27.160 --> 0:46:29.759
<v Speaker 1>let us shut up. We're gonna shut up and then

0:46:29.840 --> 0:46:31.879
<v Speaker 1>you say that, and then that way Chris Beam will

0:46:31.920 --> 0:46:35.680
<v Speaker 1>have a drop that he can use going forward. All right,

0:46:35.719 --> 0:46:40.880
<v Speaker 1>I'll say go three, two one go. There's an old adage,

0:46:41.000 --> 0:46:43.960
<v Speaker 1>don't piss off an old man with a little money.

0:46:44.200 --> 0:46:49.319
<v Speaker 1>It'll get you. So now tell us to shut up.

0:46:49.640 --> 0:46:57.080
<v Speaker 1>Now shut up and let me answer. All right, I'll

0:46:57.120 --> 0:47:02.680
<v Speaker 1>not I'll got it up. We got it. We wrap

0:47:02.800 --> 0:47:07.040
<v Speaker 1>up mixed shots and we start looking at these Philadelphia Eagles.

0:47:07.160 --> 0:47:10.120
<v Speaker 1>At one thirty tomorrow, Mickey, I'm going to join you

0:47:10.200 --> 0:47:14.359
<v Speaker 1>in the s WBC Mortgage studio. If you were there,

0:47:14.440 --> 0:47:17.600
<v Speaker 1>I will be there tomorrow, and we'll be socially distanced

0:47:17.600 --> 0:47:22.759
<v Speaker 1>and safe. That's exactly right, all right, ever since, we'll

0:47:22.760 --> 0:47:24.880
<v Speaker 1>see you tomorrow, and we'll see all right guys tomorrow

0:47:24.920 --> 0:47:29.240
<v Speaker 1>and go Cowboys. This has been a production of Dallas

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