WEBVTT - Camila Cabello

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<v Speaker 1>Pushkin. Your shyness is something that can be worked through

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<v Speaker 1>for people that are listening that are singers that have

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<v Speaker 1>stage fright and are shy. It's not something that necessarily

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<v Speaker 1>has to stop you from doing what you're passionate about.

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<v Speaker 1>It's an opportunity for you to grow from that. That's

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<v Speaker 1>Camila Cabayo, the artist behind hit songs like Havana, Never

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<v Speaker 1>Be the Same and Don't Go Yet. And if you've

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<v Speaker 1>heard her sing, she certainly doesn't sound shy. Just listen

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<v Speaker 1>to her in the most stream song of twenty nineteen.

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<v Speaker 1>Her duet was Shawn Mendez Senoritas. A lot of singers

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<v Speaker 1>I work with grew up really loving being in the

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<v Speaker 1>spotlight and performing in public, but not Kamila. I've heard

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<v Speaker 1>stories of so many great artists being like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>when I was little, I would put on shows from

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<v Speaker 1>my family, and I would go around my house and

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<v Speaker 1>whoever was willing to listen to me singing, I would

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<v Speaker 1>sing for them. I remember hearing that, especially when I

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<v Speaker 1>was younger and kind of feeling a little bit of

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<v Speaker 1>imposter syndrome or like I was like, oh my god,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't have that. Does that mean that I won't

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<v Speaker 1>be able to achieve or do as much as they did.

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<v Speaker 1>Michael Jackson or Beyont. They're like singing since they were little,

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<v Speaker 1>and they don't look shy, and they love it and

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<v Speaker 1>they want to do it in front of people. And

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<v Speaker 1>I was not like that. I would get so embarrassed.

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<v Speaker 1>Sometimes I would start crying. I was so shy. This

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<v Speaker 1>is backstage passed with Eric Vitrow, and I'm Eric Vitro.

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<v Speaker 1>I have to say I love my job because I

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<v Speaker 1>get to coach some of the most talented and famous

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<v Speaker 1>singers working today. On this show, I talked to them

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<v Speaker 1>about their lives, their craft, and how they overcome the

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<v Speaker 1>anxieties and insecurities to so many of us experience. I

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<v Speaker 1>actually auditioned for the chorus in school when I was

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<v Speaker 1>in fourth grade. I got so nervous. I forgot the

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<v Speaker 1>words too. I think it was my country. Tiss of

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<v Speaker 1>Thee was the audition song, and I just kind of

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<v Speaker 1>like froze, and my teacher was like, it's okay. He

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<v Speaker 1>did a great job. And I looked next week at

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<v Speaker 1>the list outside of my homeroom class to see if

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<v Speaker 1>I'd made it. I didn't make it. The first person

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<v Speaker 1>that really made me feel like I could sing well.

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<v Speaker 1>Was my drama teacher when I was in seventh grade,

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<v Speaker 1>because we had this thing where you had to audition

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<v Speaker 1>for the school musical, like it was like part of

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<v Speaker 1>your assignment. You couldn't not do it, and you had

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<v Speaker 1>to do a monologue and sing a song of your choice.

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<v Speaker 1>And however, this was in private, so it was just

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<v Speaker 1>you and a teacher, So my shyness slash stage fright

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't a thing because it was just me and the teacher.

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<v Speaker 1>And so I sang Listen by Beyonce. I was like

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<v Speaker 1>in seventh grade. I was like thirteen, and he was like, wow,

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<v Speaker 1>like you can really sing, and he knew that I

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<v Speaker 1>was shy and like I wouldn't voluntarily do something like that.

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<v Speaker 1>It was part of my grade. And he was like,

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<v Speaker 1>if I give you like a large part in the musical,

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<v Speaker 1>will you do it? This is how bad fear can be, guys.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like no, and he gave me a smaller

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<v Speaker 1>part in the musical. And I just like had that

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<v Speaker 1>shyness early on in school. And it was really through

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<v Speaker 1>like growing up and kind of adopting the mentality of like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what it can take five seconds of bravery

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<v Speaker 1>to change your whole life. Her five seconds of bravery

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<v Speaker 1>came when she auditioned for the singing competition The X Factor.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember when I auditioned for X Factor. My family

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<v Speaker 1>was like, this came out of nowhere, because I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>even sing for my family, So they were like, how

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<v Speaker 1>are you going to sing for the first time ever

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<v Speaker 1>by yourself in front of an audience of a few

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<v Speaker 1>thousand people. Then I just pushed myself to do it.

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<v Speaker 1>My knees were shaken and I'm sure my voice was cracking.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember seeing black dots. I felt like I was

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<v Speaker 1>going to pass out from nerves. But I felt proud

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<v Speaker 1>of myself because I pushed myself to do the thing

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<v Speaker 1>that I was afraid of, and those five seconds of

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<v Speaker 1>bravery really paid off. Her performance on The X Factor

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<v Speaker 1>led to her joining the popular all girls singing group

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<v Speaker 1>Fifth Harmony. I remember like work from home when I

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<v Speaker 1>was fifth in Fifth Harmony, and I had this one

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<v Speaker 1>high note like in the last chorus that was this

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<v Speaker 1>ad lib? What was it? You ain't gotta go to work?

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<v Speaker 1>And I did that ad lib in the studio. But

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<v Speaker 1>then when I would get up on stage and do

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<v Speaker 1>it in front of people. I remember we had to

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<v Speaker 1>perform in front of the Billboard Awards. I would get

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<v Speaker 1>really nervous and crack on the note and miss the note.

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<v Speaker 1>And it wasn't until I started working with you that

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<v Speaker 1>we were like, okay, you have you know, the front

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<v Speaker 1>and back support. You open your mouth, you don't tense

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<v Speaker 1>your throat, and then I was consistently hitting that note.

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<v Speaker 1>I actually remember saying, I want you to enjoy doing it.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want you to fear it totally. I remember

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<v Speaker 1>being on stage and when that note would come up,

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<v Speaker 1>I would be like, oh my god, it's coming, It's coming,

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<v Speaker 1>and you were like, instead of doing that, just be

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<v Speaker 1>like all right, here we go, like I'm ready. And

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<v Speaker 1>it's crazy because it's like all of your thoughts have

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<v Speaker 1>a physiological response. So when you're saying, oh, the note

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<v Speaker 1>is coming, the note is coming, my throat would tighten

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<v Speaker 1>and my mouth would tighten, and that's why I would

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<v Speaker 1>crack because I would tighten too much. What's that thing

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<v Speaker 1>you said to me recently? You were like loose but focused. Ye.

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<v Speaker 1>That whole mentality definitely change things for me a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>And I actually I bet that that happens to a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of people that are singing too, is that they

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<v Speaker 1>sing in their room and they are so comfortable and

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<v Speaker 1>having the best time, and then they get in front

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<v Speaker 1>of a lot of people and that kind of stage

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<v Speaker 1>fright comes with a physiological response and then they're like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh my god, I don't sound as good as I

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<v Speaker 1>do when I'm in my room. And that's like a

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<v Speaker 1>whole other craft's performing in front of other people and

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<v Speaker 1>being able to like to do it well. Yeah, our

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<v Speaker 1>motions take over and that's one of the things we

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<v Speaker 1>have to learn to deal with. But that's what techniques

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<v Speaker 1>all about. And you know, I feel like people need

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<v Speaker 1>to hear. Yeah, you might get nervous now and get scared,

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<v Speaker 1>but you can overcome that. There are techniques you can

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<v Speaker 1>learn to use, and there's mental techniques as well as

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<v Speaker 1>vocal techniques. As you're saying it, I'm thinking back and

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<v Speaker 1>I hadn't really processed this in my mind before. But

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<v Speaker 1>I used to see you get nervous and you would

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<v Speaker 1>always say to me, I'm really nervous, and so we

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<v Speaker 1>would do things like the breathing exercises in your dressing room.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's so strange now I'm realizing that I never

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<v Speaker 1>really was that nervous about you and your anxiety about performing,

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<v Speaker 1>because I always knew somewhere inside of me she's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>get on stage and she's gonna kill it. I've always

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<v Speaker 1>had like a really really vivid imagination, and I think

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<v Speaker 1>that that's really good but also incredible fuel for anxiety

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<v Speaker 1>and nerves, because your mind is just like, here are

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<v Speaker 1>all the scenarios that can go wrong, and suddenly your

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<v Speaker 1>body is living it and you're nervous and your knees

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<v Speaker 1>are shaking. I do remember when I was younger seeing

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<v Speaker 1>Beyonce say something that I was really affected by, where

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<v Speaker 1>she was like, actually, if I'm not nervous, I'm worried

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<v Speaker 1>because it means I don't care as much. So if

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<v Speaker 1>I'm nervous, it means I care about this. My heart

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<v Speaker 1>cares about this, and that nervousness, which is just energy,

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<v Speaker 1>actually just becomes fuel and it makes me hit the

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<v Speaker 1>dance moves with more hunger. It makes me hit that

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<v Speaker 1>note with more hunger. And I hundred percent applied that

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<v Speaker 1>to me, especially an X factor and like in Fort

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<v Speaker 1>Harmonia and still now I kind of say this thing

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<v Speaker 1>in my brain like where I'll feel nervous and I'll

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<v Speaker 1>be like, you know what, great, I want to be

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<v Speaker 1>more nervous, Give me more nerves. I mean, it's honestly

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<v Speaker 1>so crazy how much performing is a mental game. After

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<v Speaker 1>the Great, Kamila talks about the big performance where she

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<v Speaker 1>was able to reframe her anxiety into something positive. Welcome

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<v Speaker 1>back to backstage pass. So when Kamila and I sat

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<v Speaker 1>down to talk, I was curious to hear when things

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<v Speaker 1>changed for her, Like what was the first performance where

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<v Speaker 1>she really felt like she came into her power as

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<v Speaker 1>a singer. The two times that I most remember feeling

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<v Speaker 1>like that were both at the Grammys, especially Havannah. I

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<v Speaker 1>remember for days before that, just like mentally preparing, because

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<v Speaker 1>I would kind of have these little bursts of thoughts.

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<v Speaker 1>That was like before I was meditating, and my what

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<v Speaker 1>if thoughts kind of still had me by the balls,

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<v Speaker 1>and so I would have like these little thoughts of like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh my god, what if I forget my dance break movements?

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<v Speaker 1>And I would just be like I would just kind

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<v Speaker 1>of return it back to gratitude, like I'm so thankful

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<v Speaker 1>that I get to do what I love today, my

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<v Speaker 1>mission and my personal intention for that performance was this

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<v Speaker 1>is for my team, because it was kind of like

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<v Speaker 1>the end of that first album cycle and felt like

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<v Speaker 1>my team and I had just like worked really hard.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember saying to myself, this is a celebration. It's

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<v Speaker 1>a celebration, and just like giving it a new context

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<v Speaker 1>as opposed to, oh my god, I'm opening the Grammys

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<v Speaker 1>and this is so nerve wracking, just changing it to

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<v Speaker 1>my personal mission. And I remember at that time too,

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<v Speaker 1>using that philosophy of like, you know what, great, I

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<v Speaker 1>want to be nervous. I want to be nervous. Give

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<v Speaker 1>me more nervous energy. The more nervous energy, the better.

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<v Speaker 1>And I remember really being present when I was on

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<v Speaker 1>that stage. I find that when I'm really nervous, like

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<v Speaker 1>what helps me too is just taking it one second

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<v Speaker 1>at a time, one note at a time, and before

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<v Speaker 1>you know it, you're at the end of the performance.

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<v Speaker 1>But you can't be thinking about that. You have to

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<v Speaker 1>be like, Okay, it's the first few seconds of the song.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to open my mouth, use my breath support,

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<v Speaker 1>focus on this note. Now, I'm going to focus on

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<v Speaker 1>this note. Now, I'm gonna put my emotion into this sentence.

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<v Speaker 1>So if you just take it like one second at

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<v Speaker 1>a time, you just have to trust that that carries

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<v Speaker 1>you over. When you don't have the right mindset, it's

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<v Speaker 1>like you can practice more than anybody and your mind

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<v Speaker 1>won't let you even enjoy the fruits of your labor.

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<v Speaker 1>If you look at it emotionally, you're like, oh my god,

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<v Speaker 1>and there's a bunch of people, But objectively you're like,

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<v Speaker 1>I literally have done this a million times. I've done

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<v Speaker 1>this song with Eric like a million times. In the beginning,

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't hit all of these notes. Now I know

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<v Speaker 1>exactly how to so now it's just like, just do

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<v Speaker 1>it and enjoy it. I've bombed performances and cracked on

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<v Speaker 1>national TV. I did the best with what I could

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<v Speaker 1>at the time, and then I FaceTime do the next day,

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<v Speaker 1>and then we worked at it, and then next time

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't mess up anymore. Everybody messes up. Everybody has

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<v Speaker 1>had stage fright, everybody's nervous before. Everybody let their nerves

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<v Speaker 1>get to them at some point. That's not failure, that's

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<v Speaker 1>just a part of living. A huge part of becoming

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<v Speaker 1>a singer is dealing with nerves, but another big part

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<v Speaker 1>is finding your own voice. I'd never had voice lessons before.

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<v Speaker 1>When I first met you, that's the first time I

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<v Speaker 1>really was introduced to the technique of singing, and that

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<v Speaker 1>completely changed my life because before I feel like I

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<v Speaker 1>had like stylistic stuff that I liked and that I

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<v Speaker 1>integrated into how I sang, like from other people like

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<v Speaker 1>Demi or Justin Bieber. But I definitely feel like I

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<v Speaker 1>incorporated a lot of the stuff they did stylistically from them,

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<v Speaker 1>Like I know, like Demi used to do when I

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<v Speaker 1>was younger, like decays a real decais me, like kind

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<v Speaker 1>of do this breath thing at the end of words

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<v Speaker 1>like me, and I do that still like I've always

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<v Speaker 1>done that. So there's kind of like different inflections that

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like I've taken from those people, Like now

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<v Speaker 1>I'll be like you babe, and I'll like do that

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<v Speaker 1>like breath thing, because I learned it from her. That's

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<v Speaker 1>just like how I grew up singing. I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>I couldn't say that that's all me because I feel

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<v Speaker 1>like probably so many people influence to me and like

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<v Speaker 1>keep influencing me. You taught me, like really the technique

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<v Speaker 1>on how to you know, make my voice sound less

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<v Speaker 1>nasally and more clear, or be able to have like

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<v Speaker 1>a longer range of notes and be able to hit

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<v Speaker 1>high notes consistently and not hit them because I was nervous.

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<v Speaker 1>I look back at, you know, some of the songs

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<v Speaker 1>that I sang, especially when I was younger, and it

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<v Speaker 1>was like more nasal than I wanted it to be.

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<v Speaker 1>And I told you that. I was like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I would be like and I would be like, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to sound that nasal. And we worked on

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<v Speaker 1>that to the point where now in that part of

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<v Speaker 1>my tone, I took that out and I don't feel

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<v Speaker 1>like I sound nasal anymore. Like the technique of singing

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<v Speaker 1>really changed how my voice sounded, and I remember liking

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<v Speaker 1>how my voice sounded so much better. And it's crazy

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<v Speaker 1>how you can have, you know, like a seed of

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<v Speaker 1>like a talent or whatever, but the technique is truly

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<v Speaker 1>like what makes you grow a craft? Do you have

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<v Speaker 1>a favorite vocal exercise? My favorite vocal exercises are just

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<v Speaker 1>the very simple, stretchy ones like he or just like

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<v Speaker 1>the simple ones that you start me out with, like

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<v Speaker 1>what's like that, Mama that we start out with, Mamma, Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>that's my favorite one. That's my favorite one really, Mamma, mamma.

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<v Speaker 1>Love it. Just stretchy, simple, nice, feels like a little

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<v Speaker 1>massage on my vocal chords. I like that. I like

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<v Speaker 1>that a lot. So if I played this, that's the

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<v Speaker 1>one you would like. Love that. Sing it. Let me

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<v Speaker 1>hear you sing it. We love that. And that's so

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<v Speaker 1>funny to me because I always think of you as

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<v Speaker 1>someone who loves being challenged, and you always say to me,

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<v Speaker 1>challenge me, challenge me. So it's so funny to hear

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<v Speaker 1>you say you really enjoy that one. It's such a

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<v Speaker 1>simple one. And yet I guess I shouldn't be surprised

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<v Speaker 1>because so many people have said the same thing. I

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<v Speaker 1>love being challenged. The whole philosophy of stoicism I love

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<v Speaker 1>and like one of the things about stoicism is the

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<v Speaker 1>obstacle is the way, Like whatever's challenging you, whatever you're resisting,

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<v Speaker 1>whatever's making you afraid, that's the way, Like that's what

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<v Speaker 1>you have to do. So I do love being challenged

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<v Speaker 1>because I know that, you know, with the ear training

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<v Speaker 1>and like with the you know, the complicated patterns, or

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<v Speaker 1>with the notes that are minor and a little bit weird,

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<v Speaker 1>I know that's going to change my ear in good

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<v Speaker 1>ways and probably going to change my songwriting and the

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<v Speaker 1>melodies that I come up with. So I'm like, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>that's the way forward. However, the most relaxing, nice thing

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<v Speaker 1>for me are definitely the simpler ones, but I know

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<v Speaker 1>the challenging ones are the ones that I have to

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<v Speaker 1>do more right, So we keep a balance of both. Yeah, totally.

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<v Speaker 1>I was trying to think about it the other day.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you know how long we've known each other? I

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<v Speaker 1>found a photograph of you and I that dates all

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<v Speaker 1>the way back to twenty thirteen. That's insane. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>you are one of those once in a lifetime teachers,

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<v Speaker 1>like in all ways, not just vocally, but just like

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<v Speaker 1>as a person and your soul that you come around

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<v Speaker 1>and you like really change lives and you improve the

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<v Speaker 1>lives of all of your students. I mean, you've literally

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<v Speaker 1>seen me go from nervous wreck to less a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit less of a nervous wreck, way less of a

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<v Speaker 1>nervous wreck. Your shyness is something that can be worked

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<v Speaker 1>through for people that are listening that are singers that

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<v Speaker 1>have stage fright and are shy. It's not something that

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<v Speaker 1>necessarily has to stop you from doing what you're passionate about.

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<v Speaker 1>It's an opportunity for you to grow from that. If

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<v Speaker 1>you don't do what you're afraid of, that thing suddenly

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<v Speaker 1>has power over you. That thing suddenly has a hold

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<v Speaker 1>on you. And that's something that I carry that helps

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<v Speaker 1>me a lot in my career nowadays too, because I

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<v Speaker 1>think that a lot of people don't realize, like in life,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not like you do the thing you're afraid of

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<v Speaker 1>and then you're never afraid again. Your whole life, you're

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<v Speaker 1>going to be afraid of things. And I think what

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<v Speaker 1>makes the difference and how I define successes pushing myself

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<v Speaker 1>to do those things that I'm afraid of and proving

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<v Speaker 1>to myself, not for anybody else, but proving to myself,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not going to let this thing have a hold

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<v Speaker 1>of me, and you know what, I'm going to go

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<v Speaker 1>out there and feel the fear and do it anyway.

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<v Speaker 1>Stay tuned and we'll be right back with our vocal

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<v Speaker 1>tip of the week. I think probably the most familiar sound,

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<v Speaker 1>the most familiar musical exercise that everyone has heard at

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<v Speaker 1>one point or another in their life. When someone is

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<v Speaker 1>practicing the piano or practicing their singing is scales. Everyone

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<v Speaker 1>has heard a major scale like that at least once

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<v Speaker 1>in their life, but there are many variations that are

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<v Speaker 1>valuable when you want to stretch yourself and reach your

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<v Speaker 1>full potential. I'm going to show you one of those

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<v Speaker 1>variations today. It sounds like this. I would recommend practicing

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<v Speaker 1>it and holding the top note, sometimes with vibrato and

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes without, so that you get used to being able

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<v Speaker 1>to do either easily. Bases, baritones and tenors. Why don't

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<v Speaker 1>you start on a sea below middle C? Sopranos and

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<v Speaker 1>alto's A good spot for you to start would be

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<v Speaker 1>on a B flat right below middle C. That's it,

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<v Speaker 1>nice and simple. If you want to share how you

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<v Speaker 1>sing your scales, I'd love to hear you. Use the

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<v Speaker 1>hashtag Backstage passpod on Twitter, Instagram, TikTok, or wherever you

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<v Speaker 1>like to post. I can't wait to see your videos.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll see you next week maybe maybe maybe maybe maybe

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<v Speaker 1>maybe maybe maybe maybe maybe. Backstage Pass with Eric Vitro

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