1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,600 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Tutor Dixon Podcast. This is our group podcast. 2 00:00:03,640 --> 00:00:07,200 Speaker 1: We have Kyle Olsen and Sarah Broadwater with me today, 3 00:00:07,760 --> 00:00:10,799 Speaker 1: and I just wanted to kind of get this like 4 00:00:11,240 --> 00:00:12,640 Speaker 1: peel back the layers of. 5 00:00:12,680 --> 00:00:14,360 Speaker 2: The Kamala onion. 6 00:00:14,440 --> 00:00:16,120 Speaker 1: And I think a few of these stories that we're 7 00:00:16,120 --> 00:00:19,320 Speaker 1: going to talk about today do because I keep hearing 8 00:00:19,360 --> 00:00:22,560 Speaker 1: people like, oh my goodness, she's getting all this press attention, 9 00:00:22,760 --> 00:00:25,400 Speaker 1: she's rising in the polls, and we're never going to 10 00:00:25,440 --> 00:00:27,280 Speaker 1: get the truth out about her. And I just want 11 00:00:27,320 --> 00:00:31,080 Speaker 1: everybody to stop panicking because the truth is really bad 12 00:00:31,280 --> 00:00:35,360 Speaker 1: about Kamala and Tim Walls, but it's it's unraveling right. 13 00:00:35,240 --> 00:00:35,960 Speaker 2: Before our eyes. 14 00:00:36,040 --> 00:00:38,880 Speaker 1: So and I also wanted to bring this up because 15 00:00:38,920 --> 00:00:42,480 Speaker 1: Sarah sent me something a couple of days ago, because 16 00:00:42,479 --> 00:00:44,080 Speaker 1: I don't know if you guys remember, but I was 17 00:00:44,080 --> 00:00:46,600 Speaker 1: on Handity one night. I was talking about the low 18 00:00:47,520 --> 00:00:50,720 Speaker 1: the low water, all that water saving stuff and the 19 00:00:50,720 --> 00:00:53,920 Speaker 1: water saving toilets, which I stand by are terrible because 20 00:00:54,360 --> 00:00:56,760 Speaker 1: I said, yoids at the flush our toilets twice and 21 00:00:56,840 --> 00:01:00,480 Speaker 1: people made fun of me, which it's just it just sinks. 22 00:01:00,480 --> 00:01:02,880 Speaker 1: And Trump always talks about the low flow showers, you know, 23 00:01:03,080 --> 00:01:06,080 Speaker 1: like Seinfeld days of low flow showers and I what 24 00:01:06,240 --> 00:01:09,080 Speaker 1: did I post that? Somebody was like, oh, I had 25 00:01:09,120 --> 00:01:12,000 Speaker 1: to scrape conditioner out of my child's hair, so sad 26 00:01:12,000 --> 00:01:13,800 Speaker 1: that you aren't governor, which was obviously sener. 27 00:01:14,040 --> 00:01:16,360 Speaker 2: You were posting about the northern lights and the some 28 00:01:16,560 --> 00:01:19,400 Speaker 2: dad commented her mom, I don't even remember, and was like, 29 00:01:19,560 --> 00:01:21,200 Speaker 2: I would have loved to see this, but I was 30 00:01:21,240 --> 00:01:24,760 Speaker 2: too busy spread conditioner out of my child's hair due 31 00:01:24,800 --> 00:01:26,280 Speaker 2: to the low flow fawcet. 32 00:01:26,760 --> 00:01:28,880 Speaker 1: Well for all of you that make fun of that, 33 00:01:29,680 --> 00:01:33,280 Speaker 1: just so you know your stoves are toast. So, Kyle, 34 00:01:33,400 --> 00:01:36,440 Speaker 1: I'm gonna let you talk about this because our old 35 00:01:36,560 --> 00:01:40,640 Speaker 1: governor is responsible for It's like Michigan produces. 36 00:01:40,240 --> 00:01:41,319 Speaker 2: The worst people. 37 00:01:42,600 --> 00:01:44,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, so, uh so the. 38 00:01:44,680 --> 00:01:47,240 Speaker 1: Or elected office Democrats, That's what I'm so. 39 00:01:47,360 --> 00:01:50,880 Speaker 3: The environmentalists in the Buying administration are just finding any 40 00:01:50,920 --> 00:01:55,480 Speaker 3: possible way to make life miserable for everyone else, not 41 00:01:55,560 --> 00:01:59,120 Speaker 3: for themselves, of course, because they all love to have 42 00:01:59,400 --> 00:02:02,800 Speaker 3: their guest stoves and they take pictures with their gas stoves, 43 00:02:02,840 --> 00:02:05,160 Speaker 3: but they don't want the rest of us to have 44 00:02:05,200 --> 00:02:08,040 Speaker 3: a gas stove. And so if you remember back, I 45 00:02:08,040 --> 00:02:11,840 Speaker 3: think it was last year, they basically, they want to 46 00:02:11,919 --> 00:02:15,160 Speaker 3: create efficiency rules for gas stoves, which will make it 47 00:02:16,240 --> 00:02:21,040 Speaker 3: probably very difficult to own or manufacture, etc. Well, that 48 00:02:21,280 --> 00:02:25,480 Speaker 3: was widely ridiculed and they sort of got rid of it. 49 00:02:25,600 --> 00:02:28,919 Speaker 3: But then it turns out, according to the Daily Caller 50 00:02:29,040 --> 00:02:33,560 Speaker 3: this week, they actually implemented the rules. Now they say 51 00:02:33,600 --> 00:02:38,040 Speaker 3: it's a little less stringent, whatever that might mean. But 52 00:02:38,120 --> 00:02:41,680 Speaker 3: the fact of the matter is the Biden administration, the 53 00:02:41,760 --> 00:02:46,359 Speaker 3: Department of Energy, which is run by Jennifer Grahnholm, who 54 00:02:46,600 --> 00:02:51,360 Speaker 3: is a former Michigan governor, enacted this rule. And so 55 00:02:51,560 --> 00:02:56,239 Speaker 3: here they are. I mean, we talked last week about 56 00:02:56,280 --> 00:02:59,799 Speaker 3: how Kamala Harris says she doesn't believe the government should be, 57 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:02,600 Speaker 3: you know, in everyone's lives all the time. Of course 58 00:03:02,639 --> 00:03:08,000 Speaker 3: she's talking about abortion, but the reality is the Democrats, 59 00:03:08,080 --> 00:03:11,840 Speaker 3: the Biden administration has government in our lives all the time. 60 00:03:11,919 --> 00:03:13,639 Speaker 3: And this is another example. 61 00:03:13,760 --> 00:03:16,120 Speaker 1: But so I'm sorry, I'm gonna interrupt you because this 62 00:03:16,200 --> 00:03:19,760 Speaker 1: is something that I keep saying. These departments, the bureaucracy 63 00:03:20,080 --> 00:03:23,880 Speaker 1: creating laws. They call them rules, but if you break 64 00:03:23,919 --> 00:03:27,000 Speaker 1: them then you are in legal troubles. So you have 65 00:03:27,639 --> 00:03:31,800 Speaker 1: the health departments that are creating rules, you have the 66 00:03:32,360 --> 00:03:35,360 Speaker 1: that are then become laws. It's the same thing with 67 00:03:35,560 --> 00:03:38,800 Speaker 1: the Department of Natural Resources. You have them creating rules. 68 00:03:38,960 --> 00:03:41,520 Speaker 1: Now the Department of Energy. I mean, you guys, this 69 00:03:41,720 --> 00:03:48,080 Speaker 1: is not this our unelected officials, who are not lawmakers 70 00:03:48,280 --> 00:03:48,920 Speaker 1: making law. 71 00:03:49,280 --> 00:03:51,640 Speaker 2: Well, yet the role of most of these departments is 72 00:03:51,680 --> 00:03:55,920 Speaker 2: to carry out what the legislature has put into law. 73 00:03:56,240 --> 00:03:58,520 Speaker 2: Now suddenly they're becoming the ones that are trying to 74 00:03:58,680 --> 00:04:01,360 Speaker 2: make their version of lay. But the other thing about 75 00:04:01,400 --> 00:04:03,320 Speaker 2: this is when I mean you went out, I mean, 76 00:04:03,360 --> 00:04:05,800 Speaker 2: there were so many conservatives out on TV talking about 77 00:04:05,840 --> 00:04:08,280 Speaker 2: this that this was going to happen, the light bulbs, 78 00:04:08,320 --> 00:04:12,160 Speaker 2: all of those issues, and you were mocked totally by 79 00:04:12,200 --> 00:04:15,080 Speaker 2: the Democrat. No, you guys are crazy. This is never 80 00:04:15,160 --> 00:04:15,760 Speaker 2: going to happen. 81 00:04:16,160 --> 00:04:19,240 Speaker 1: But exactly what you said is going to happen is 82 00:04:19,279 --> 00:04:23,719 Speaker 1: happening now. It's so frustrating because this is where the 83 00:04:23,880 --> 00:04:27,000 Speaker 1: media is really responsible for coming out and saying, actually, 84 00:04:27,040 --> 00:04:29,719 Speaker 1: this would be a terrible thing if the Department of 85 00:04:29,839 --> 00:04:33,680 Speaker 1: Energy could suddenly make a law and change how we 86 00:04:34,560 --> 00:04:36,839 Speaker 1: I mean, this will change how you build houses and everything. 87 00:04:36,880 --> 00:04:40,279 Speaker 1: It will change everything, and yet the media doesn't or 88 00:04:40,320 --> 00:04:43,520 Speaker 1: the media was also filing on like these conservatives are 89 00:04:43,520 --> 00:04:46,919 Speaker 1: crazy lunatics, but it's true. And this is what happens 90 00:04:46,960 --> 00:04:49,960 Speaker 1: when you have state run propaganda media. It's just a joke. 91 00:04:50,080 --> 00:04:53,280 Speaker 2: It also changes how businesses operate. I mean, we think 92 00:04:53,320 --> 00:04:55,760 Speaker 2: about the EVE aspect right this, but I mean think 93 00:04:55,760 --> 00:04:58,719 Speaker 2: about a whirlpool or a GLG or you know, all 94 00:04:58,800 --> 00:05:01,640 Speaker 2: of these manufacturers who you have a certain percentage of 95 00:05:01,680 --> 00:05:04,680 Speaker 2: your business that's electric, you have a certain percent that's gas. 96 00:05:05,040 --> 00:05:07,320 Speaker 2: I mean, that's going to totally turn them on their 97 00:05:07,320 --> 00:05:08,840 Speaker 2: heads too, to figure out how are they going to 98 00:05:08,920 --> 00:05:11,479 Speaker 2: change production of these things depending on what the time 99 00:05:11,520 --> 00:05:13,040 Speaker 2: limits are too. 100 00:05:13,800 --> 00:05:17,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm just finishing a special for Newsmacs on EV 101 00:05:17,800 --> 00:05:21,040 Speaker 3: mandates and I've learned a lot and I think a 102 00:05:21,080 --> 00:05:24,800 Speaker 3: lot of people don't realize exactly what is happening and 103 00:05:24,839 --> 00:05:29,800 Speaker 3: how it's happening because the Biden administration again, they're they're 104 00:05:30,040 --> 00:05:40,159 Speaker 3: requiring EV manufacturers and dealerships to make and sell fifty 105 00:05:40,240 --> 00:05:42,520 Speaker 3: four percent of what they make and sell has to 106 00:05:42,560 --> 00:05:47,280 Speaker 3: be EV's by twenty thirty. Twenty thirty is basically right 107 00:05:47,279 --> 00:05:52,800 Speaker 3: around the corner. And what the data and what the 108 00:05:52,839 --> 00:05:56,279 Speaker 3: sales are showing is that people don't want evs and 109 00:05:56,320 --> 00:06:00,000 Speaker 3: There's a lot of different reasons about that. The cause, 110 00:06:00,640 --> 00:06:04,680 Speaker 3: the maintenance, the fact that if you get a little, 111 00:06:04,920 --> 00:06:07,159 Speaker 3: you know, a little fender bender, the whole thing is totaled. 112 00:06:08,200 --> 00:06:10,159 Speaker 1: The fact that you can't charge them. They don't go 113 00:06:10,440 --> 00:06:13,560 Speaker 1: restaurant more than a few miles. Yes, what do they 114 00:06:13,600 --> 00:06:14,480 Speaker 1: call it? Rangings? 115 00:06:14,800 --> 00:06:18,960 Speaker 3: Yes, ranging anxiety because you don't know, you know. And 116 00:06:19,000 --> 00:06:21,760 Speaker 3: so Trump has been has been riffing on this, especially 117 00:06:21,760 --> 00:06:25,400 Speaker 3: at his Michigan rallies, about all of this. But I 118 00:06:25,440 --> 00:06:27,760 Speaker 3: think he does that in part because people are on 119 00:06:27,880 --> 00:06:31,600 Speaker 3: his side. And there was a story The Midwesterner wrote 120 00:06:31,640 --> 00:06:35,559 Speaker 3: about a poll that was done that of Michiganders people 121 00:06:35,560 --> 00:06:39,880 Speaker 3: in Michigan, seventy one percent will not buy an suv. Period, 122 00:06:40,440 --> 00:06:41,440 Speaker 3: seventy one percent. 123 00:06:41,680 --> 00:06:44,640 Speaker 1: This is where I mean to Sarah's point of manufacturers 124 00:06:44,680 --> 00:06:47,800 Speaker 1: putting manufacturers in a bad place. Where is the free 125 00:06:47,800 --> 00:06:50,760 Speaker 1: market anymore if this is the way, if the government 126 00:06:50,920 --> 00:06:54,600 Speaker 1: it doesn't exist, I mean, the binding administration and the 127 00:06:54,720 --> 00:06:57,960 Speaker 1: environmentalists in the administration are trying to force. 128 00:06:57,720 --> 00:07:00,839 Speaker 3: This to happen. And then so seventy one percent will 129 00:07:00,880 --> 00:07:04,520 Speaker 3: not buy an suv. So just that number alone, an 130 00:07:04,520 --> 00:07:09,680 Speaker 3: electric will not buy is not suv in EV. Why 131 00:07:09,720 --> 00:07:14,440 Speaker 3: as I saying SUV. People love SUV, but they will 132 00:07:14,440 --> 00:07:16,080 Speaker 3: not buy an EV. 133 00:07:16,280 --> 00:07:18,200 Speaker 2: We're Americans, we're dibathing. 134 00:07:19,200 --> 00:07:24,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, we all do anyway, So seventy one percent will 135 00:07:24,160 --> 00:07:28,640 Speaker 3: not buy an EV, well, then that just they're not 136 00:07:28,680 --> 00:07:31,560 Speaker 3: going to hit their targets. And then only twenty four 137 00:07:31,600 --> 00:07:35,239 Speaker 3: percent would consider buying an EV. Not that they will, 138 00:07:35,440 --> 00:07:38,200 Speaker 3: they would consider it, they would look at it. And 139 00:07:38,240 --> 00:07:40,920 Speaker 3: then the other The same poll showed fifty six percent 140 00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:45,320 Speaker 3: of Michigander's opposed using tax money being spent to force 141 00:07:45,360 --> 00:07:48,120 Speaker 3: a transition. Now, of course, there's lots of ways that 142 00:07:48,160 --> 00:07:51,480 Speaker 3: the government is spending our tax dollars on this transition. 143 00:07:51,520 --> 00:07:53,880 Speaker 3: They're giving it to Chinese companies, which we've talked about 144 00:07:53,880 --> 00:07:58,680 Speaker 3: a lot. They're spending it on chargers, They're giving it 145 00:07:58,720 --> 00:08:03,320 Speaker 3: to the the car manufacturers, uh, they're they're spending it 146 00:08:03,320 --> 00:08:07,280 Speaker 3: on rebates to to you know, artificially lower the prices. 147 00:08:07,720 --> 00:08:10,040 Speaker 3: So there's all kinds of ways. But what the polling 148 00:08:10,080 --> 00:08:13,000 Speaker 3: is showing is that people don't What it all boils 149 00:08:13,040 --> 00:08:17,040 Speaker 3: down to is people don't like the Biden Harris position 150 00:08:17,200 --> 00:08:20,360 Speaker 3: on evs, and Trump is smart to go after this, 151 00:08:20,760 --> 00:08:23,600 Speaker 3: and that's what he should continue to do. And so, 152 00:08:23,760 --> 00:08:27,360 Speaker 3: of course then the Michigan media says, well, maybe you know, 153 00:08:27,440 --> 00:08:30,400 Speaker 3: Harris and the Democrats should pump the brakes, which of 154 00:08:30,440 --> 00:08:35,040 Speaker 3: course is clever on you know, this transition. But they're not. 155 00:08:35,360 --> 00:08:37,880 Speaker 3: And that's the point is they are not backing down. 156 00:08:38,120 --> 00:08:41,679 Speaker 1: And that's when I see people boohooing, Well a Kama 157 00:08:41,800 --> 00:08:44,280 Speaker 1: is getting all this attention. I'm like, stop boooing and 158 00:08:44,320 --> 00:08:46,560 Speaker 1: tell people who she really is. And it's got to 159 00:08:46,600 --> 00:08:49,160 Speaker 1: be you know, obviously it helps for all of us 160 00:08:49,200 --> 00:08:53,240 Speaker 1: to talk every place we can, but it is unreasonable 161 00:08:53,280 --> 00:08:55,480 Speaker 1: that the MSNBC's and the cn ends up the world 162 00:08:55,520 --> 00:08:58,800 Speaker 1: will not have conservative conservatives on. And that's why it 163 00:08:58,840 --> 00:09:01,240 Speaker 1: has to be in. It has to be going out there. 164 00:09:01,320 --> 00:09:04,160 Speaker 1: They people have to know what they're going to do. 165 00:09:04,240 --> 00:09:06,679 Speaker 1: And I think that you have to fully understand that 166 00:09:06,960 --> 00:09:09,560 Speaker 1: what you are used to in the lifestyle that you 167 00:09:09,559 --> 00:09:11,160 Speaker 1: have where you can just go out and choose, you 168 00:09:11,200 --> 00:09:13,280 Speaker 1: can choose what coffee you want, you can choose what 169 00:09:13,559 --> 00:09:15,600 Speaker 1: phone you want, you can choose what car you want, 170 00:09:15,880 --> 00:09:18,440 Speaker 1: that is going to go away under people like this. 171 00:09:18,600 --> 00:09:20,880 Speaker 1: And it is not an exaggeration. Now that you see 172 00:09:20,880 --> 00:09:24,040 Speaker 1: that this is happening with your stove, and oftentimes it 173 00:09:24,160 --> 00:09:27,079 Speaker 1: is the choice that you would have chosen over anything 174 00:09:27,080 --> 00:09:29,400 Speaker 1: else that they're getting rid of. Do you think that 175 00:09:29,679 --> 00:09:33,040 Speaker 1: these companies that are selling stoves sell more electric or 176 00:09:33,040 --> 00:09:37,760 Speaker 1: more gas? Everyone that cooks or enjoys cooking prefers cooking 177 00:09:37,760 --> 00:09:41,920 Speaker 1: on a gas stove. Everyone who drives prefers driving a 178 00:09:41,960 --> 00:09:44,000 Speaker 1: car that is going to go a distance, you know 179 00:09:44,040 --> 00:09:46,320 Speaker 1: if you, I mean, the last thing I want to 180 00:09:46,360 --> 00:09:48,959 Speaker 1: have happen is figure out that I've got to pick 181 00:09:49,040 --> 00:09:51,240 Speaker 1: kids up in travel and move them from sport to 182 00:09:51,280 --> 00:09:53,480 Speaker 1: sport and realize that my car that was sitting in 183 00:09:53,480 --> 00:09:55,600 Speaker 1: the snow all day now doesn't have enough charge for 184 00:09:55,640 --> 00:09:57,960 Speaker 1: me to get from one end of town to the other. 185 00:09:58,600 --> 00:10:00,800 Speaker 1: It's terrifying, and people I just don't want to deal 186 00:10:00,840 --> 00:10:01,040 Speaker 1: with that. 187 00:10:01,200 --> 00:10:03,719 Speaker 2: Who wants to prolong a road trip. Let's say you're 188 00:10:03,760 --> 00:10:06,480 Speaker 2: doing a road trip and driving Great Michigan to Florida, 189 00:10:06,600 --> 00:10:08,800 Speaker 2: whatever it is. Who wants to say I'm going to 190 00:10:08,880 --> 00:10:11,520 Speaker 2: go to this rest drop and sit for another hour. 191 00:10:11,880 --> 00:10:14,480 Speaker 2: Every time my kids say are we there yet? I 192 00:10:14,480 --> 00:10:16,920 Speaker 2: think I have the same question. Okay, no we're not. 193 00:10:17,120 --> 00:10:18,880 Speaker 1: And the last thing I want is to be like, no, 194 00:10:18,880 --> 00:10:20,400 Speaker 1: now we have to stop for twenty more minutes. 195 00:10:20,840 --> 00:10:24,240 Speaker 3: Well, just think about the typical your typical day, and 196 00:10:24,280 --> 00:10:26,319 Speaker 3: maybe yesterday for me it was not a typical day. 197 00:10:26,360 --> 00:10:29,719 Speaker 3: But I drove about three hundred and fifty miles, went 198 00:10:29,760 --> 00:10:33,800 Speaker 3: to a baseball game in Detroit, and you drive it 199 00:10:33,880 --> 00:10:36,720 Speaker 3: was like about two hundred miles there, a little bit less. 200 00:10:37,440 --> 00:10:39,760 Speaker 3: And then if you realize, Okay, I'm not gonna be 201 00:10:39,800 --> 00:10:42,000 Speaker 3: able to get home on the charge that I've got 202 00:10:42,120 --> 00:10:44,719 Speaker 3: I have to charge when we're there. What if it's 203 00:10:44,760 --> 00:10:47,520 Speaker 3: not enough? What if I can't actually find a place. 204 00:10:48,200 --> 00:10:52,000 Speaker 3: We ended up leaving there about nine pm. It's about 205 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:54,959 Speaker 3: a three hour drive home, so we get home grown midnight. 206 00:10:55,520 --> 00:10:59,640 Speaker 3: But people this idea that you're all of a sudden 207 00:10:59,720 --> 00:11:03,360 Speaker 3: just going to make this transition to EVS and it's 208 00:11:03,440 --> 00:11:06,600 Speaker 3: just going to be fine. Or what if that was 209 00:11:06,640 --> 00:11:08,560 Speaker 3: in the middle of the winter when it's you know, 210 00:11:08,679 --> 00:11:13,199 Speaker 3: ten degrees outside. They what the people in the administration, 211 00:11:13,320 --> 00:11:17,920 Speaker 3: what the environmentalists are trying to do, is completely impractical 212 00:11:18,520 --> 00:11:22,440 Speaker 3: and does not deal with real life, and it's just 213 00:11:22,600 --> 00:11:23,400 Speaker 3: not going to work. 214 00:11:23,600 --> 00:11:25,840 Speaker 2: That's the thing that is most interesting to me is 215 00:11:25,920 --> 00:11:29,240 Speaker 2: why is their strategy to mock because these are actually 216 00:11:29,679 --> 00:11:31,880 Speaker 2: things that people deal with and think about every day. 217 00:11:31,920 --> 00:11:33,359 Speaker 2: Same thing about the economic. 218 00:11:33,040 --> 00:11:36,760 Speaker 1: Issue, because it's the strategy to make government bigger and 219 00:11:36,840 --> 00:11:39,960 Speaker 1: without people realizing they're doing it. Let's take a quick 220 00:11:39,960 --> 00:11:43,319 Speaker 1: commercial break. We'll continue next on a Tutor Dixon podcast. 221 00:11:46,679 --> 00:11:48,439 Speaker 1: I mean, look at this as in the Daily Caller, 222 00:11:48,480 --> 00:11:51,440 Speaker 1: who's talking about this today? Outside of it being in 223 00:11:51,440 --> 00:11:53,839 Speaker 1: the Daily Caller, you have to be looking to find 224 00:11:53,880 --> 00:11:57,080 Speaker 1: out that Jennifer Granholm did this with stoves, that the 225 00:11:57,160 --> 00:11:59,840 Speaker 1: rule actually passed and it is going into effect because 226 00:11:59,840 --> 00:12:02,240 Speaker 1: it's it's not on any of the big networks. This 227 00:12:02,320 --> 00:12:06,400 Speaker 1: is when we say that these networks are apart an 228 00:12:06,440 --> 00:12:09,240 Speaker 1: extension of the White House. It's not a lie, and 229 00:12:09,280 --> 00:12:11,680 Speaker 1: they are hiding what is happening in this country. But 230 00:12:11,760 --> 00:12:15,120 Speaker 1: that's how you that's how if you go back generations 231 00:12:15,160 --> 00:12:17,719 Speaker 1: and you look at other countries, how did the communists 232 00:12:17,720 --> 00:12:20,240 Speaker 1: take over? How did people get duped? It started with 233 00:12:20,280 --> 00:12:23,839 Speaker 1: the media. The media turned. The media is no longer free, 234 00:12:24,280 --> 00:12:26,840 Speaker 1: and you know they're no longer free because we've seen 235 00:12:26,880 --> 00:12:27,760 Speaker 1: the memos from the. 236 00:12:27,679 --> 00:12:28,240 Speaker 2: White House say. 237 00:12:29,440 --> 00:12:31,640 Speaker 1: I mean, this is why the guy at the press 238 00:12:31,640 --> 00:12:33,000 Speaker 1: conference the other day is like, are you going to 239 00:12:33,040 --> 00:12:35,920 Speaker 1: do anything to stop this. Elon Musk Trump interview. Who 240 00:12:35,920 --> 00:12:38,600 Speaker 1: whatever think ten years ago if somebody said that, people 241 00:12:38,600 --> 00:12:40,200 Speaker 1: would go, what is this guy? Nuts? 242 00:12:40,240 --> 00:12:43,079 Speaker 2: He's got to be fired. It seemed like a normal question, 243 00:12:43,240 --> 00:12:45,680 Speaker 2: isn't him? That was just a brief ringer oom question. Yeah, 244 00:12:45,760 --> 00:12:47,920 Speaker 2: no big deal. The other thing, so I think it 245 00:12:47,960 --> 00:12:50,600 Speaker 2: was MSNBC. I don't know if you saw yesterday had 246 00:12:50,640 --> 00:12:53,360 Speaker 2: a group of predominantly black women, but there was a 247 00:12:53,360 --> 00:12:56,280 Speaker 2: black woman on there weeping. Oh I know a date 248 00:12:56,360 --> 00:12:59,320 Speaker 2: of her finances. And here you have Kamala Harris. It's 249 00:12:59,320 --> 00:13:01,520 Speaker 2: supposed to come out this week with her economic plan. 250 00:13:02,400 --> 00:13:06,120 Speaker 2: They have duped people into believing that the situation they're 251 00:13:06,160 --> 00:13:09,400 Speaker 2: in right now is not a result of her, even 252 00:13:09,440 --> 00:13:13,000 Speaker 2: though Kamala is in office right now. But that's how 253 00:13:13,080 --> 00:13:17,240 Speaker 2: good these mainstream media folks are at manipulating you and 254 00:13:17,280 --> 00:13:19,120 Speaker 2: manipulating your mind. You can sit there and say, I'm 255 00:13:19,160 --> 00:13:21,760 Speaker 2: in a horrible situation right now, Kamala will take me 256 00:13:21,800 --> 00:13:22,280 Speaker 2: out of this. 257 00:13:22,559 --> 00:13:24,360 Speaker 1: I love the on day one I'll do this. I'm like, 258 00:13:24,360 --> 00:13:25,720 Speaker 1: what day is this for you? Right now? 259 00:13:25,840 --> 00:13:28,839 Speaker 2: I mean, what are what are you talking about? 260 00:13:29,000 --> 00:13:32,000 Speaker 1: Because no one believes that Joe Biden's stopping you from 261 00:13:32,040 --> 00:13:35,600 Speaker 1: doing anything. I mean, you could literally like untie his shoes, 262 00:13:35,600 --> 00:13:39,160 Speaker 1: and he will get confused and follow over like what 263 00:13:39,200 --> 00:13:42,040 Speaker 1: are you? Why are you worried about this? I mean, 264 00:13:42,400 --> 00:13:46,280 Speaker 1: anybody who believes or I guess there's two schools up 265 00:13:46,320 --> 00:13:49,360 Speaker 1: to out here. If anybody who believes that she can't 266 00:13:49,640 --> 00:13:52,120 Speaker 1: talk to Joe Biden about what's going on, then they're 267 00:13:52,120 --> 00:13:54,480 Speaker 1: clearly not watching what's happening with Joe Biden. But if 268 00:13:54,520 --> 00:13:58,120 Speaker 1: she can't, if there's that big of a barrier, who 269 00:13:58,280 --> 00:14:01,400 Speaker 1: is she? Who is her staff? Who is his staff? Like? 270 00:14:01,600 --> 00:14:04,520 Speaker 1: Who is controlling the country that the vice president has 271 00:14:04,640 --> 00:14:08,880 Speaker 1: no say? But she was interviewed by Dana Bash about 272 00:14:09,080 --> 00:14:12,920 Speaker 1: Afghanistan and she said, you were told, we were told 273 00:14:12,920 --> 00:14:15,200 Speaker 1: you'd always be the last person in the room. What 274 00:14:15,320 --> 00:14:18,000 Speaker 1: about the decision of Afghanistan? She said, I was the 275 00:14:18,080 --> 00:14:20,640 Speaker 1: last person in the room, and I think it went well. 276 00:14:20,840 --> 00:14:25,040 Speaker 1: I mean, she clearly has she's owning these things. She 277 00:14:25,120 --> 00:14:28,400 Speaker 1: needs to be forced to own them across the entire country. 278 00:14:28,680 --> 00:14:31,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, but will she? I mean, look at what the 279 00:14:31,520 --> 00:14:36,120 Speaker 3: media is doing right now. She Time magazine put her 280 00:14:36,120 --> 00:14:39,880 Speaker 3: on the cover made Your Story, and she refused to 281 00:14:39,920 --> 00:14:44,360 Speaker 3: talk for the story. Then maybe you don't run the story. 282 00:14:44,640 --> 00:14:46,560 Speaker 1: Maybe you don't put her on the cover, don't give 283 00:14:46,560 --> 00:14:47,880 Speaker 1: her that morey punishment. 284 00:14:47,960 --> 00:14:50,560 Speaker 2: If you don't talk, then you don't get the story. 285 00:14:50,920 --> 00:14:54,080 Speaker 2: Any other media outlet, I would not have given you 286 00:14:54,120 --> 00:14:58,640 Speaker 2: that cover in Machine. Oh, but a lot of reasons 287 00:14:58,640 --> 00:14:58,840 Speaker 2: for that. 288 00:14:59,360 --> 00:15:04,680 Speaker 3: But and her communications director was on CNN I think 289 00:15:04,680 --> 00:15:08,080 Speaker 3: on Wednesday, and there might have been Tuesday, and was 290 00:15:08,120 --> 00:15:10,600 Speaker 3: actually challenged about when is she going to do a 291 00:15:10,640 --> 00:15:13,160 Speaker 3: press conference? And he talked about, Oh, we're so busy 292 00:15:13,240 --> 00:15:15,800 Speaker 3: doing you know, all these huge rallies, and you know, 293 00:15:15,920 --> 00:15:21,320 Speaker 3: we're just too busy. And he actually said she's going 294 00:15:21,360 --> 00:15:23,840 Speaker 3: to do a sit down interview before the end of 295 00:15:23,840 --> 00:15:28,840 Speaker 3: the month. And I looked at my calendar and I went, oh, 296 00:15:28,880 --> 00:15:32,080 Speaker 3: it's the fourteenth, So in the next two weeks, she's 297 00:15:32,120 --> 00:15:34,200 Speaker 3: going to do a sit down interview. 298 00:15:34,320 --> 00:15:36,240 Speaker 2: The thing I find it curious because I want to 299 00:15:36,240 --> 00:15:38,120 Speaker 2: know how long is the media going to hold out 300 00:15:38,160 --> 00:15:40,480 Speaker 2: for because usually the media will hold out for a 301 00:15:40,520 --> 00:15:42,440 Speaker 2: long time for Democrats. But at a certain point, you 302 00:15:42,520 --> 00:15:45,240 Speaker 2: do have to feed the beast. They need content, they 303 00:15:45,280 --> 00:15:47,000 Speaker 2: need something to run, so they're going to have to 304 00:15:47,040 --> 00:15:49,600 Speaker 2: start leaking on something like there is going to have 305 00:15:49,680 --> 00:15:52,800 Speaker 2: to be something that they that she gives them. Now, 306 00:15:52,840 --> 00:15:55,880 Speaker 2: I've heard from people in DC that she's doing a 307 00:15:55,880 --> 00:15:58,720 Speaker 2: lot of off the record conversations with media. She goes 308 00:15:58,760 --> 00:15:59,720 Speaker 2: back on the plane. 309 00:16:00,200 --> 00:16:03,080 Speaker 1: That's that doesn't mean anything. 310 00:16:03,160 --> 00:16:06,760 Speaker 2: But they feel like they're getting at No, that's against thing. 311 00:16:07,240 --> 00:16:10,080 Speaker 1: That is disgusting and it shouldn't be that way. I 312 00:16:10,480 --> 00:16:13,520 Speaker 1: saw I think it was CNN interviewing some comms person 313 00:16:13,560 --> 00:16:15,960 Speaker 1: on her team. It was a woman, and they said, well, 314 00:16:15,960 --> 00:16:18,520 Speaker 1: what's she doing today? And she said, oh, she's doing 315 00:16:18,560 --> 00:16:21,200 Speaker 1: these rallies. This was yesterday. I think she's doing these rallies. 316 00:16:21,240 --> 00:16:24,040 Speaker 1: She's doing all this stuff. And he was like, I 317 00:16:24,080 --> 00:16:26,440 Speaker 1: looked at the Vice president's schedule. She's not doing any 318 00:16:26,480 --> 00:16:28,840 Speaker 1: political events today, so why can't she come on here 319 00:16:28,840 --> 00:16:31,240 Speaker 1: and talk to us? And it was very awkward. So 320 00:16:31,280 --> 00:16:33,200 Speaker 1: maybe you're right, And I hope you are right. I 321 00:16:33,240 --> 00:16:35,920 Speaker 1: hope that eventually they say enough is enough, you have 322 00:16:35,960 --> 00:16:38,240 Speaker 1: to talk. And I do think that people were mad 323 00:16:38,280 --> 00:16:42,040 Speaker 1: about the Elon interview, even on the Republican side, they're like, Eh, 324 00:16:42,160 --> 00:16:44,280 Speaker 1: when is this Dale? Well, it does a lot because 325 00:16:44,320 --> 00:16:47,720 Speaker 1: it shows that he can talk with one of the 326 00:16:47,760 --> 00:16:50,920 Speaker 1: smartest men in the world and you can say what 327 00:16:50,960 --> 00:16:54,280 Speaker 1: you want. This man is incredibly and Elon Musk is 328 00:16:54,280 --> 00:16:58,880 Speaker 1: incredibly intelligent. And Donald Trump stayed right with him the 329 00:16:59,080 --> 00:17:03,480 Speaker 1: entire time and talk on every subject. She can't, and 330 00:17:03,920 --> 00:17:07,000 Speaker 1: it's if it's outside of her realm. Kyle, you and 331 00:17:07,000 --> 00:17:10,000 Speaker 1: I were watching an interview from her of her in 332 00:17:10,080 --> 00:17:13,200 Speaker 1: like the nineties, I think, when she was an attorney, 333 00:17:14,119 --> 00:17:17,480 Speaker 1: and she was very smart on her own case. And 334 00:17:17,680 --> 00:17:22,440 Speaker 1: I thought that was so telling because she could talk normally, 335 00:17:22,480 --> 00:17:25,320 Speaker 1: not laughing, not cackling, not like she didn't sound like 336 00:17:25,400 --> 00:17:29,080 Speaker 1: she was out of her element at all, because she 337 00:17:29,160 --> 00:17:32,760 Speaker 1: fully understood the case, which tells me if she can't 338 00:17:32,800 --> 00:17:36,119 Speaker 1: talk about world issues, she doesn't fully understand them because 339 00:17:36,119 --> 00:17:39,000 Speaker 1: she is not an idiot. She just doesn't know. This 340 00:17:39,160 --> 00:17:41,640 Speaker 1: is not her area of expertise. And as an attorney, 341 00:17:41,680 --> 00:17:44,560 Speaker 1: she may be maybe a good attorney, or she may 342 00:17:44,600 --> 00:17:48,800 Speaker 1: be good at at debating her case, but as a leader, 343 00:17:48,800 --> 00:17:51,240 Speaker 1: she is terrible. And she wasn't chosen the first time 344 00:17:51,320 --> 00:17:53,800 Speaker 1: because of that, because it's very obvious. It also shows 345 00:17:53,800 --> 00:17:56,399 Speaker 1: me that what the last three years now, I guess 346 00:17:57,080 --> 00:17:57,520 Speaker 1: she's not. 347 00:17:57,600 --> 00:17:59,200 Speaker 2: Taken the time to study. 348 00:18:00,359 --> 00:18:03,159 Speaker 1: Right, you're the vice president, But that's the thing. She 349 00:18:03,200 --> 00:18:05,879 Speaker 1: should not be out of her element. She's this understudy 350 00:18:05,920 --> 00:18:08,560 Speaker 1: to the president. Like something happens, and let's face it, 351 00:18:09,040 --> 00:18:12,199 Speaker 1: at any moment, this man could die. And I mean 352 00:18:12,240 --> 00:18:13,679 Speaker 1: I saw him on the beach the other day and 353 00:18:13,720 --> 00:18:15,560 Speaker 1: I was like, somebody should poke him. I'm not sure 354 00:18:15,560 --> 00:18:16,159 Speaker 1: he is alive. 355 00:18:16,240 --> 00:18:18,639 Speaker 2: You know, he looks rough. I mean Ceespan had like 356 00:18:18,760 --> 00:18:20,600 Speaker 2: live cameras on him, almost. 357 00:18:20,280 --> 00:18:23,119 Speaker 1: Like it was like watching the end. It's like the 358 00:18:23,200 --> 00:18:27,160 Speaker 1: Death Watch. It's terrible. But they lied to us about 359 00:18:27,160 --> 00:18:31,639 Speaker 1: his condition. It's been exposed. Now the question is is 360 00:18:31,680 --> 00:18:34,359 Speaker 1: his condition as bad as now they're leading us to believe. 361 00:18:34,440 --> 00:18:37,880 Speaker 1: We don't actually know. But because we believe it's pretty severe, 362 00:18:38,440 --> 00:18:40,679 Speaker 1: why doesn't she know what's happening in the world. 363 00:18:41,080 --> 00:18:45,040 Speaker 3: I think what's unfolding right now is the greatest switcheroo 364 00:18:45,240 --> 00:18:50,840 Speaker 3: in the history of American politics. And because they all knew, 365 00:18:51,000 --> 00:18:54,600 Speaker 3: you said they it was Harris, he was starting with 366 00:18:54,640 --> 00:18:57,800 Speaker 3: her on down. They all knew what he was like. 367 00:18:58,240 --> 00:19:01,359 Speaker 3: We could see him in public, just imagine what he 368 00:19:01,600 --> 00:19:05,600 Speaker 3: was like privately, And they knew and they could see 369 00:19:05,640 --> 00:19:09,920 Speaker 3: it every single day for themselves, and so they they 370 00:19:10,240 --> 00:19:14,800 Speaker 3: I believe they had this whole scheme cooked up, and 371 00:19:14,880 --> 00:19:18,240 Speaker 3: so as soon as the Republicans were done with their convention, 372 00:19:18,800 --> 00:19:22,760 Speaker 3: this was going to go like lightning speed, and it did. 373 00:19:23,200 --> 00:19:26,879 Speaker 3: And so they've got this situation now where she basically is, 374 00:19:27,680 --> 00:19:31,520 Speaker 3: you know, they're sort of posturing her as this rock 375 00:19:31,560 --> 00:19:34,480 Speaker 3: star and suddenly, you know, all of the goofy things 376 00:19:34,480 --> 00:19:36,760 Speaker 3: that she said and done in the past is just 377 00:19:36,840 --> 00:19:41,879 Speaker 3: sort of doesn't exist anymore. And they're now holding her 378 00:19:41,960 --> 00:19:44,639 Speaker 3: up as she's like the second Obama and these all 379 00:19:44,720 --> 00:19:49,200 Speaker 3: these crazy things. And the we're talking about the media, 380 00:19:49,359 --> 00:19:51,560 Speaker 3: and the media is letting her get away with it 381 00:19:51,600 --> 00:19:54,159 Speaker 3: because she's refusing to talk to them, She's refusing to 382 00:19:54,160 --> 00:19:57,040 Speaker 3: go off the script. You know, people are criticizing her 383 00:19:57,080 --> 00:19:59,640 Speaker 3: because she's saying the same speech as you know, everywhere 384 00:19:59,640 --> 00:20:03,639 Speaker 3: she goes, which is not totally unusual. But the point 385 00:20:03,760 --> 00:20:09,520 Speaker 3: is she's highly scripted, and I think it's because they are. 386 00:20:09,240 --> 00:20:12,200 Speaker 3: They're in the middle of this switch rough and they're 387 00:20:12,280 --> 00:20:15,119 Speaker 3: trying to just keep it as tightly controlled as they 388 00:20:15,160 --> 00:20:18,359 Speaker 3: possibly can to run out the clock. And the media 389 00:20:18,400 --> 00:20:20,560 Speaker 3: has a real role that they can play in trying 390 00:20:20,600 --> 00:20:23,320 Speaker 3: to disrupt that or at least be honest, maybe not 391 00:20:23,359 --> 00:20:27,600 Speaker 3: disrupted at least be honest with voters, and it remains 392 00:20:27,640 --> 00:20:29,240 Speaker 3: to be seen if they're actually going to do that. 393 00:20:29,280 --> 00:20:30,800 Speaker 3: I don't think they will, but we'll see. 394 00:20:30,920 --> 00:20:33,639 Speaker 1: Let's take a quick commercial break. We'll continue next on 395 00:20:33,640 --> 00:20:39,480 Speaker 1: a Tutor Dixon podcast. I think the real question is 396 00:20:39,520 --> 00:20:42,000 Speaker 1: how much power does White House staff have Because they 397 00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:44,680 Speaker 1: didn't want a primary, they didn't want the option for 398 00:20:44,760 --> 00:20:47,800 Speaker 1: a primary, and so I believe that they also knew 399 00:20:47,800 --> 00:20:49,760 Speaker 1: she was very unlikable, but they could stay on her. 400 00:20:49,760 --> 00:20:52,600 Speaker 1: Staff believe they can stay with her, so they were 401 00:20:52,640 --> 00:20:55,840 Speaker 1: going to champion her. They know her turnover rate and 402 00:20:55,960 --> 00:20:59,400 Speaker 1: staff is ninety two percent. She is not liked by 403 00:20:59,440 --> 00:21:01,760 Speaker 1: the country. She is not liked by the people closest 404 00:21:01,760 --> 00:21:04,240 Speaker 1: to her. The people who work with her leave. 405 00:21:04,640 --> 00:21:05,600 Speaker 2: That is meaningful. 406 00:21:05,640 --> 00:21:07,640 Speaker 1: If the people who work for you wouldn't go back 407 00:21:07,680 --> 00:21:11,160 Speaker 1: to work for you again, it really means something. It's 408 00:21:11,240 --> 00:21:13,800 Speaker 1: much higher than anybody else I think that's ever been 409 00:21:14,359 --> 00:21:17,199 Speaker 1: in the Vice president or the President's office. And so 410 00:21:17,320 --> 00:21:20,359 Speaker 1: they have to create this whole facade of who she is, 411 00:21:20,640 --> 00:21:23,400 Speaker 1: because the truth is, she's not liked by even her 412 00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:24,440 Speaker 1: own staff. 413 00:21:25,040 --> 00:21:27,160 Speaker 2: At the end of the day, Nancy Pelosi's out there 414 00:21:27,240 --> 00:21:31,199 Speaker 2: bragging about how she carried this out essentially, so you 415 00:21:31,320 --> 00:21:34,280 Speaker 2: know there was a big plan here. Pelosi had an idea, 416 00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:36,879 Speaker 2: if there's one woman that you do not want to 417 00:21:36,920 --> 00:21:38,920 Speaker 2: go up against. People can say what they want about her, 418 00:21:39,160 --> 00:21:41,640 Speaker 2: but Nancy Pelosi is the one person that I would 419 00:21:41,680 --> 00:21:43,520 Speaker 2: never want to compete against because at the end of 420 00:21:43,560 --> 00:21:45,160 Speaker 2: the day, she's going to win. 421 00:21:45,480 --> 00:21:47,840 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, she has the dirt on everybody. I mean, 422 00:21:47,880 --> 00:21:51,160 Speaker 1: the story that you hear is that Nancy Pelosi calls 423 00:21:51,240 --> 00:21:53,560 Speaker 1: you to her office and pulls out your file, and 424 00:21:54,119 --> 00:21:56,680 Speaker 1: I mean, I assume that there's some truth to that, 425 00:21:56,840 --> 00:21:58,560 Speaker 1: is that people sit down and she's like, this is 426 00:21:58,600 --> 00:22:00,840 Speaker 1: what I've got on you. I don't think that that 427 00:22:01,080 --> 00:22:02,800 Speaker 1: was the case with Biden. I think it was just 428 00:22:02,840 --> 00:22:06,040 Speaker 1: we're gonna twenty fifth Amendment you like, you're we're going 429 00:22:06,119 --> 00:22:08,280 Speaker 1: to take you out one way or another, You're leaving. 430 00:22:09,400 --> 00:22:12,440 Speaker 1: I mean, it was not good he clearly. I mean 431 00:22:12,720 --> 00:22:15,639 Speaker 1: it's and that's pretty obviously noted that she went to 432 00:22:15,720 --> 00:22:17,840 Speaker 1: him and was like, yeah, you're done well. 433 00:22:17,840 --> 00:22:20,920 Speaker 2: And they say, now that the relationship has fully soured, 434 00:22:21,040 --> 00:22:21,760 Speaker 2: so there's. 435 00:22:21,560 --> 00:22:25,240 Speaker 1: Been no right she's and she's sad about it, like, yes, 436 00:22:25,480 --> 00:22:28,320 Speaker 1: that's the funny thing. There's these interviews where she has 437 00:22:28,400 --> 00:22:32,040 Speaker 1: like this sad demeanor and people say, well, have you 438 00:22:32,160 --> 00:22:34,040 Speaker 1: she hadn't spoken to him since she admitted that last 439 00:22:34,040 --> 00:22:35,400 Speaker 1: week or maybe was earlier. 440 00:22:35,440 --> 00:22:37,960 Speaker 2: That's the only one that has Well. 441 00:22:38,840 --> 00:22:40,520 Speaker 1: Would you ever talk to these people? I mean, this 442 00:22:40,560 --> 00:22:44,640 Speaker 1: is the crazy part about politics. People are such backstabbers. Honestly, 443 00:22:44,680 --> 00:22:46,600 Speaker 1: when I came into this, because you know, this is 444 00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:49,000 Speaker 1: new to me, I was in the business world and 445 00:22:49,040 --> 00:22:53,280 Speaker 1: then came to the media slash political world, and I 446 00:22:53,280 --> 00:22:55,159 Speaker 1: remember when I first started in this, I was like, 447 00:22:56,200 --> 00:23:00,880 Speaker 1: I've never experienced the kind of hatred, the kind backstabbing. 448 00:23:01,640 --> 00:23:04,399 Speaker 1: Who wants to be involved in this world? And I 449 00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:06,440 Speaker 1: think the reason that people stay is because they believe 450 00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:08,800 Speaker 1: they can make it better, because it cannot continue on 451 00:23:08,840 --> 00:23:11,760 Speaker 1: this trajectory where you have a few people that have 452 00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:15,960 Speaker 1: power and they are using it for to make the 453 00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:18,639 Speaker 1: country worse rather than for personal not to make the 454 00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:20,840 Speaker 1: country worse. I think it's the personal power that has 455 00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:24,480 Speaker 1: taken over. I saw this thing, this meme today about 456 00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:29,320 Speaker 1: how Satan actually felt, and that was through pride, and 457 00:23:29,359 --> 00:23:31,760 Speaker 1: that was like the first sin was that he wanted 458 00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:34,240 Speaker 1: to be the angel above all angels, and it was 459 00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:37,920 Speaker 1: pride that caused him to actually for God to say, 460 00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:41,639 Speaker 1: like you've you're not seeing the bigger picture here. And 461 00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:45,760 Speaker 1: then ultimately people now struggle with pride. And I mean, 462 00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:49,320 Speaker 1: it's so funny because when you look at Washington, you're like, 463 00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:51,800 Speaker 1: I mean, I guess not funny, but it is interesting 464 00:23:51,840 --> 00:23:54,040 Speaker 1: when you look at Washington you think, man, pride is 465 00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:58,360 Speaker 1: strong among anybody elected. Well, I always called Washington Peter 466 00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:00,880 Speaker 1: Panland because I do think. I mean, you go there 467 00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:04,880 Speaker 1: and it's it's just a totally different world than anywhere else. 468 00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:07,400 Speaker 1: And that's also why I believe that politicians and most 469 00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:09,840 Speaker 1: of this bureaucracy shouldn't be housed in DC, because you're 470 00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:13,240 Speaker 1: living in a fantasy land that most people in America. 471 00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:15,280 Speaker 2: Do not live in. But people go there. I think, 472 00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:17,399 Speaker 2: I like to believe that most people go there with 473 00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:20,880 Speaker 2: the bust intentions. But it is you get intoxicated by 474 00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:23,960 Speaker 2: power by being around some of these institutions and by 475 00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:27,000 Speaker 2: these leaders, and I think you can be very easily 476 00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:30,280 Speaker 2: swayed into believing that you are the answer and you 477 00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:32,320 Speaker 2: are the one that continues on this path, and you 478 00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:34,280 Speaker 2: forget what you were there to do. 479 00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:38,560 Speaker 1: And if you are someone who has always won your races, 480 00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:41,320 Speaker 1: people like Covet that you know, they're like amazing. But 481 00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:43,919 Speaker 1: it was interesting when I was running. I remember sitting 482 00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:46,080 Speaker 1: down with someone and I had a very long meeting 483 00:24:46,119 --> 00:24:48,399 Speaker 1: with this guy and he's been in politics his entire 484 00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:51,359 Speaker 1: life and where it was very influential. And he said 485 00:24:51,359 --> 00:24:54,080 Speaker 1: to me he was talking about when you when you 486 00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:58,280 Speaker 1: run the next time, and I remember thinking, like, dude, 487 00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:01,240 Speaker 1: when you lose this time and you run the next time, 488 00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:03,520 Speaker 1: I'm like, that's not a very positive message. And he 489 00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:07,360 Speaker 1: was like, the best leaders lose their first race, and 490 00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:09,320 Speaker 1: it was you know, at the time, you're like, well, 491 00:25:09,320 --> 00:25:10,840 Speaker 1: I don't want to hear that, like I don't want 492 00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:14,800 Speaker 1: to lose this race. But looking back on that, his 493 00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:18,199 Speaker 1: point was you will be a better person if you 494 00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:20,080 Speaker 1: don't go in there thinking you got it all right, 495 00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:23,760 Speaker 1: because you're not getting it all right, and most nobody's 496 00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:25,760 Speaker 1: getting it all right the first time. I mean, there 497 00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:29,640 Speaker 1: is luck in politics, there's timing, there's all of that. 498 00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:34,120 Speaker 1: But it was very interesting because after I lost, and 499 00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:36,360 Speaker 1: then probably a month later, I was asked to go 500 00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:40,119 Speaker 1: speak at an event and I remember talking to another 501 00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:42,879 Speaker 1: person and he said, well, you should go headline this, 502 00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:45,320 Speaker 1: and I said, I just feel like I'm going in 503 00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:47,280 Speaker 1: there and I let all these people down, and I 504 00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:49,040 Speaker 1: feel really bad about it. And he said, if you 505 00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:51,159 Speaker 1: had won this race, you would walk in there thinking 506 00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:53,880 Speaker 1: you did everything right and never learn a thing. He said, 507 00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:55,440 Speaker 1: but now you can go in there and tell them 508 00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:57,520 Speaker 1: everything that you learn, and you can make things better. 509 00:25:57,960 --> 00:26:04,160 Speaker 1: I mean, and it's powerful. It is. It's certainly personally challenging, 510 00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:06,720 Speaker 1: and you feel terrible. You feel like a failure, but 511 00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:09,760 Speaker 1: you also feel like you failed all these people. Like 512 00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:12,199 Speaker 1: personally you're like, oh wow, I suck, you know, and 513 00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:15,200 Speaker 1: then you feel like you hurt so many people. In Still, 514 00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:16,879 Speaker 1: when I go to these events and people are like, 515 00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:21,560 Speaker 1: we need Michigan fixed, you feel tremendous guilt forever, you know. 516 00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:26,000 Speaker 1: But it really is so true if you lose. I mean, 517 00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:28,520 Speaker 1: I don't know, I've never run again. But I think 518 00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:32,440 Speaker 1: you look at politics from a different perspective, and maybe 519 00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:36,600 Speaker 1: maybe we should analyze the difference between those who've lost 520 00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:39,840 Speaker 1: and those who have always won. I think people are 521 00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:43,400 Speaker 1: drawn to humble leaders, and that's what we need more 522 00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:45,359 Speaker 1: of in DC. I think everyone wants to believe that 523 00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:47,960 Speaker 1: they have all the answers to your point. They've won, 524 00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:51,920 Speaker 1: they've been successful, they haven't needed the help of anyone else, 525 00:26:52,119 --> 00:26:55,080 Speaker 1: and that's what it'll be interesting. You brought up Kamala's 526 00:26:55,080 --> 00:26:58,199 Speaker 1: staff turnover rate. She has clearly made her way to 527 00:26:58,320 --> 00:27:01,720 Speaker 1: DC by being the and all bee all. She doesn't 528 00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:04,880 Speaker 1: have staff that sticks around with her. Well, that really 529 00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:07,399 Speaker 1: worked for her in the end. I fundamentally believe you 530 00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:10,520 Speaker 1: need a group of people around you that you are 531 00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:13,000 Speaker 1: loyal and trustworthy in all of those things. Yeah, it 532 00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:16,160 Speaker 1: doesn't have any of it. No, I think that that 533 00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:19,840 Speaker 1: is I think that is really going to be a 534 00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:22,840 Speaker 1: telling part of this. And I wish that we could 535 00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:25,320 Speaker 1: have some of those old staff members come out and 536 00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:27,479 Speaker 1: tell us what is like on the inside. It seems 537 00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:30,040 Speaker 1: like the Republicans always have people talking of school, like 538 00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:33,440 Speaker 1: you know, but where is The other side is very 539 00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:36,199 Speaker 1: good at keeping that. But obviously something's happened because her 540 00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:39,879 Speaker 1: percentage is poor, So we'll see. I just think I 541 00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:41,920 Speaker 1: think there's a lot of time left to go in 542 00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:45,680 Speaker 1: this race. Where it's August, anything can happen, very interesting 543 00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:48,239 Speaker 1: things can happen. It's so tight right now, and I 544 00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:50,840 Speaker 1: just think it's a really exciting time to be alive. 545 00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:54,120 Speaker 1: For all the people right now that are panicked and nervous. 546 00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:56,639 Speaker 1: I think it's a fascinating time to be alive and 547 00:27:56,680 --> 00:28:00,800 Speaker 1: a fascinating time to watch this. And you have I mean, hey, 548 00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:03,320 Speaker 1: I hear if people say, oh, this person has an 549 00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:06,760 Speaker 1: ego and that person has an ego, this is politics. 550 00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:11,320 Speaker 1: You've got to go out there confidently, not pridefully, but confidently. 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